CWC # 84 ANNOUNCEMENT OF RESULTS

 PART ONE - OVERALL SUMMARY 

Greetings from Sunny Malaysia.  Thank you for participating in this
competition which saw entries from many who, hitherto had been lurking
around this newsgroup. Another encouraging development is the
decreasing number of participants who used to automatically shy away
from moderating. The continued vibrancy of any group is a function of
our collective ability to attract new entrants with their refreshing
new ideas.

The quality of clues submitted again reflected the calibre of people
who are in the group. As a single professional group, teachers form
the largest contingent, judging from a very rough straw poll (Gallup
has no reason to get worried) with mathematicians and computer
scientists  predominating. The second largest professional group are
the medical doctors (Im told that physicians find cryptic crossword
the most convenient form of mental exercise in between patients).  
 
Alas, FCAs & CPAs  are only represented by one, viz this moderator. 
I protest - you find exciting TV series on doctors, lawyers, policemen
and even lifeguards; but none on accountants. Surely ratings can be
improved by  shows billed as "Fearless Fosdick  in astounding expose
on double-entry fraud in canteen petty cash !" or "Merzbacher
mercilessly mauls income-tax evaders !!"
Hey, thats a pretty good idea for a future ACC theme for cluers to
describe their profession and thus allow James Lundon to compile a
demographic analysis of the make-up of this distinguished newsgroup.

Coming back to CWC#84, the word SUNNY proved too easy but whilst the
clues were good, they suffered from a surfeit of repetition. Of the 26
clues submitted by 24 entrants, 11 were plays on homonyms and
homophones, 9 had the word "bright" as definition, 9 used the word
"son" or "lad" and New York was mentioned 7 times (please note the
sub-sets are not mutually exclusive).  Whilst they were all good and
technically correct, too much of a good thing can.......

The winners for the SUNNY clue are:

FIRST & JOINT OVERALL CHAMPION & MODERATOR OF CWC#85
From: "Murray W. Smith" <msmith@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
This side is up after crack of dawn (5)

SECOND
From: yokelim@ylchew.pc.my (Chew Yoke Lim)
Star beginning new year in cheerful mood. (5)

THIRD
From: dukky@cybercomm.net (Johnston)
Scholars uttering nonsense now, yet initially quite bright (5)

The participants, clues, explanation and moderators comments, if any,
on the individual clues can be found in Part Two of this announcement

The choice of MALAYSIA as the second word appeared to be the right one
as it proved to be quite a stinker to clue. At the onset, let me state
that I am not employed nor paid by the Malaysian Tourist Development
Board (URL = http://www.jaring.my/tdc/ ). The word just happened to be
part of my Internet signature.  MALAYSIA got many to dust off their
old atlases and reference books. It must also have resulted in a teeny
weeny more attention paid to our recalcitrant* Prime Minister, 
Dr Mahathir Mohamad, who happened to be in London and New York on  a
road-show to popularise stocks and shares on the Kuala Lumpur Stock
Exchange.
 (*Aussie Premier Keating caused a diplomatic hoohah when he
impetuously called Mahathir a recalcitrant for not wanting to attend
an APEC meeting in apparent protest at the US opposition to Mahathir's
call for the setting up of EAEC (East Asian Economic Caucus) which
seeks to exclude the US from a forum of Asian nations)

As is understandable, my choice was heavily influenced by the imagery
created by the clues. Thus words like incontinent and maladjusted
which induce negative pictures did not score too well.

The winners for the MALAYSIA clue are :
FIRST & JOINT OVERALL CHAMPION
From: kamarif@pop.jaring.my (Kamal Shah)
...so set sail, May, to a tropical paradise (8)

SECOND
From: Kevin Wald <wald@math.uchicago.edu>
Out loud, ponder continent where Kuala Lumpur is (8)

THIRD
From: bcs@sc.harris.com (Brian Spollen)
Small, exclusive place?  Yes, in Asia! (8)

The participants, clues, explanation and moderators comments, if any,
on the individual clues can be found in Part Three of this
announcement


FOOTNOTE

I have enjoyed myself tremendously moderating CWC#84 and
simultaneously  ACC#72.  However, my greatest satisfaction came from
inducing a few lurkers to stop watching and start participating. I
hope future moderators will continue to encourage newcomers. For
example, I think the CWC announcement should not just say ROT13 next
to the words. We should explain what ROT13 is. 

Come to think of it, is there any need to encode  the words to be
clued ?  Who are the subscribers to  this newsgroup that do not want a
spoiler ?  Are we actually catering for and institutionalising a group
of permanent lurkers  who do not participate in the competitions ? 

I pose these questions to stimulate discussion. Flame me.

PART TWO  -  SUNNY

The winners for the SUNNY clue are:

First & Joint Overall Champion & Moderator of CWC#85
From: "Murray W. Smith" <msmith@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
This side is up after crack of dawn (5)

Second
From: yokelim@ylchew.pc.my (Chew Yoke Lim)
Star beginning new year in cheerful mood (5)

Third
From: dukky@cybercomm.net (Johnston)
Scholars uttering nonsense now, yet initially quite bright (5)

The full list of the clues  in the order they were received :

1)   Bright boy, we hear (5)
2)   Bright little boy, I hear (5)
3)   Fine-sounding lad (5)
4)   Fine, the little boy said (5)
5)   Bright lot of students returning to New York (5)
6)   Things are optimistic for United Nations in Southern New York (5)
7)   Star beginning new year in cheerful mood (5)
8)   Bright boy we hear, goes to New York (5)
9)   Nice seeing local star proceeds to New York... (5)
10)   Cheerful, zany nuns' club (5)
11)   "Nuns On the Run" ending very pleasant. (5)
12)   Heard that Congressman Bono's optimistic (5)
13)   Brilliant head of staff decapitates rabbit (5)
14)   Boy sounds happy (5)
15)   It shines on New York on a nice day (5)
16)   Bright youngster--born speaking (5)
17)   Clue: This side is up after crack of dawn (5)
18)   Scholars uttering nonsense now, yet initially quite bright (5)
19)   "Bright boy" - joint statement (5)
20)   After Serbian leader appears before the United Nations, 
                              New York  is  optimistic(5) 
21)   It's bright and breezy ... (5)
22)   Bright in USA after short Sabbath (5) 
23)   I hear Mr. Bono is quite bright (5)
24)   Cheerful lad at joint hearing (5)
BONUS CLUES
Heated opening session at United Nations, no?  Yes! (5)
Brilliant computer company located near the Big Apple (5)

The participants, clues, explanation and 
        <moderators comments>, if any,  follow:

1) From: dtk <kurtzdt@musc.edu>(david kurtz)
Bright boy, we hear (5)
BRIGHT = def
BOY, WE HEAR = sonny

2) From: matthew@ella.mills.edu (Matthew A. Merzbacher)
Bright little boy, I hear (5)
	Bright			=	defn.
	little boy		=	sonny
	I hear			=	homophone indicator

3) From: pvr@wg.icl.co.uk (Phil Rose)
Fine-sounding lad (5)
Fine        => SUNNY
sounding    => homophone indicator
lad         => SONNY

4) From: Dirk Laurie <dirk@calvyn.puk.ac.za>
Fine, the little boy said (5)
fine: definition
little boy = sonny
SONNY said = sunny

5) From: bobg@cullen.demon.co.uk (Bob Gregory)
Bright lot of students returning to New York (5)
                        Bright = defn
                        lot of students = NUS --> returning SUN
        NUS readily recognisable in UK, at least - 
                                        as National Union of Students 
                        New York --> NY

<The use of NUS is not illegal with me, having once been a member 
(see the advantage of having a British-educated moderator?). Besides,
a little bit, just a little bit, of parochialism sometimes has its
beneficial side-effect of enriching the knowledge of other group
members.>

6) From: Richard Irving     rri1@pge.com
Things are optimistic for United Nations in Southern New York (5)
Things are optimistic = Definition
Southern = S
New York = NY
United Nations = UN
S(UN)NY 

7) From: yokelim@ylchew.pc.my (Chew Yoke Lim)
Star beginning new year in cheerful mood. (5)
star = sun
beginning new year = ny
(to be) in cheerful mood = (to be) sunny

< And we hope your initiation into the group on a winning note will
similarly put you in a cheerful mood>

8) From: nigelz@halcyon.com (Nigel Bardsley)
Bright boy we hear, goes to New York (5)
Bright = definition
boy we hear = son - homophone for SUN
goes to = i.e. is attached to
New York = NY

9) From: ab388@freenet.carleton.ca (Jules E. Lafrance)
Nice seeing local star proceeds to New York..." (5)
Explanation: Definition: "Nice"
             "local star" = "SUN"
             "proceeds to" cue to link with what follows.
             "New York" = "NY", American shorthand for New York.

<The extraneous word seeing is too obtrusive. You could have
excluded it. Hold on, you did say this clue is linked to the MALAYSIA
clue. More in Part Three>

10) From: Kevin Wald <wald@math.uchicago.edu>
 Cheerful, zany nuns' club (5)
	Cheerful = SUNNY (as in a "sunny disposition")
	zany = anagram indicator
	nuns' (anagrammed) = SUNN
	club = Y 
	  (I don't know how universal that one is -- it's extremely common
	   in US cryptics. The YMCA, or any similar organization (the
	   YWCA, YMHA, YWHA . . .), is commonly known as the "Y".)

<I have no problem with your Sister Act at the Y>

11) From: "Ed Coulson 814-863-0625" <FYJ@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
"Nuns On the Run" ending very pleasant. (5)
      Nuns = anagram fodder
      On the Run = anagram indicator=> SUNN
      "Nuns on the Run" was a funny-in-places but mostly lame comedy
starring
                       Eric Idle and Robbie Coltrane from 1992 or so.
       ending very = Y
       pleasant = definition

<Isnt "on the run" akin to being incontinent ? I just wonder how the
ending could be pleasant >

12) From: bcs@sc.harris.com (Brian Spollen)
Heard that Congressman Bono's optimistic (5)
       "heard" = homophone indicator
       "that Congressman, Bono" = "Sonny" (singer/actor/U.S.
Congressman (!))
       "optimistic" = def.

<I have to draw the line somewhere. To the rest of the world, Sonny
and Cher  are singers, so unless he makes President (VPs dont count
unless they like Idaho potatoe) or Secretary of State, he will remain
a singer>

BONUS for SUNNY:
Heated opening session at United Nations, no?  Yes! (5)
       "heated" = def.
       "opening session" = "s" (first letter --- "opening" --- of
"session")
       "United Nations" = "UN" (abbreviation)
       "no, yes" = "ny" (abbreviations)

<Somehow, this essentially acrostic clue has been contaminated by the
connector, at>
 
Brilliant computer company located near the Big Apple (5)
       "brilliant" = def.
       "computer company" = "Sun"
       "located near" = adjacency indicator
       "the Big Apple" = nickname of New York = "NY"

<Can anyone tell me how New York got the label, Big Apple ?>

13) From: Dave Eggleston <de5360@csc.albany.edu>
Brilliant head of staff decapitates rabbit.
Brilliant 	: DEF.
head of staff	: "S"
decapitates	: all-too-obvious indicator for beheading
rabbit		: BUNNY
result		: S + (B)UNNY

<If you ask me, there are other better things to do with a Bunny; so
he cannot really be called brilliant, can he ?>

14) From: "Samuel E. Buttrey" <buttrey@stat.Berkeley.EDU>
       Boy sounds happy (5)
       Boy: Sonny
       sounds: homophone indicator for "sonny"
       happy: definition of SUNNY 

<Please tell me, noble statistician, what are the probabilities that
so many cluers from so many countries so far apart will submit so many
clues that are so alike ?>

15) From: DW Bullock <BULLOCK@whio.lincoln.ac.nz>
       It shines on New York on a nice day (5)
       It shines = SUN
       on = added to
       New York = NY
       a nice day = definition

<And you, too, have a nice day>

16) From: SAILORJOHN@delphi.com
Bright youngster--born speaking (5)
    "Bright" = defn. of SUNNY
    "speaking" = homophone indicator
   "youngster" = "son"
            "born" = "nee"
   Homophone of "son" "nee"  is  SUNNY

17) From: "Murray W. Smith" <msmith@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
This side is up after crack of dawn (5)
Explanation: Double definition
	A traditional North American early morning breakfast 
             includes eggs "sunny side up".
	of dawn = definition

<Hey, you dont have a monopoly of this dish in North America. I had
one this morning. After the homophones, this one is refreshingly
appetising. Simply delicious especially the use of the enigmatic
crack of dawn. You can almost hear the sizzling eggs and smell the
aroma wafting through. Worthy winner from Murray Smith>

18) From: dukky@cybercomm.net (Johnston)
Scholars uttering nonsense now, yet initially quite bright.
initially = take initials of "Scholars uttering nonsense now, yet", 
   yielding "Sunny"
quite bright = direct definition

<Very good acrostic clue. Third placing, Ducky>

19) From: merlyn@dgii.com (Brian Westley)
"Bright boy" - joint statement (5)
	Bright = definition for SUNNY
	boy joint = son knee
	statement = homophone indicator

20) From: galejs@ll.mit.edu (Robert Galejs)
After Serbian leader appears before the United Nations, 
New York is optimistic (5)
	optimistic = sunny (definition)
	Serbian leader = S
	S appears before the United Nations = SUN
	after SUN, New York = SUNNY

<Very topical, Robert. The whole world waits for peace to return to
that troubled spot>

21) From: kamarif@pop.jaring.my (Kamal Shah)
It's bright and breezy ... (5)
     A double definition.
     Bright = SUNNY
     Breezy = SUNNY ( as in breezy disposition/countenance )

<Dr Kamal has actually linked his delightful alliterative double
definition to his clue for MALAYSIA. See comment in Part Three>
 
22) From: Una Kirby SMS <unak@aldiscon.ie>
Bright in USA after short Sabbath (5) 
      Bright = definition
       short Sabbath = SUN (day) 
      USA  = New York = NY

<You have committed two fouls; equating USA with New York (did you
hear the howls of protest from Hawaii to Alabama?) and Sabbath with
Sunday. The Sabbath is a rest day from the religious point of view. To
the Jews, it is Saturday. In Malaysia where half the people are
Muslims, it is Friday>

23) From: dmonson@Direct.CA (Don Monson)
I hear Mr. Bono is quite bright (5)
	I hear		- homophone indicator
   	Mr. Bono	- Senator Sonny Bono, of course
   	is quite bright - definition

<Pray tell me what hit songs has this new group Senators come up with
so far?See comment in 12 above>

24) From: jbergman@oxygen.bbn.com (Jacob Bergmann)
Cheerful lad at joint hearing (5)
        cheerful            definition
        lad                 SON
        at                  connective
        joint               KNEE
            SON + KNEE  homophone

<Am I glad to see the last of the homophone clues. They are all good
but you know what they say about too much of a good thing... >

PART THREE - MALAYSIA

The winners for the MALAYSIA clues are:

First & Joint Overall Champion 
From: kamarif@pop.jaring.my (Kamal Shah)
...so set sail, May, to a tropical paradise (8)

Second
From: Kevin Wald <wald@math.uchicago.edu>
Out loud, ponder continent where Kuala Lumpur is (8)

Third & Joint Overall Champion & Moderator of CWC#85
From: "Murray W. Smith" <msmith@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
May sail a craft past straits settlements (8)

The full list of submitted clues in the order they were received:

1)   A thousand put down in Asia! (8)
2)   Salad is "Yam a la Sarawak", and more (8)
3)   Wind from Madagascar hits Thailand? Not quite, further south (8)
4)   Oriental land where a lama is transfigured about the second 
                                            unknown (8)
5)   A poem is read upside down in the mother country (8)
6)   Maia lays, drunk, in Asian country (8)
7)   Ay, salami ingredients mixed in South East Asian country. (8)
8)   Asian country gets first-rate return, ending depression,
                                                we hear 8)
9)   ... nicer yet in part of Asia where many lay incontinent? (8)
10)   An island of half yams amongst sliced salami (8)
11)   Confused Siam with a place inside a neighbouring country? (8)
12)   Lays in sloth as mother runs around the country (8)
13)   Country song is modulating between A minor (inversion) 
                                                     and A (8).
14)   Small, exclusive place?  Yes, in Asia! (8)
15)   First, you're trapped in the Orient: after, flee West 
                                    to this country (8)
16)  Heartless mob has plans for Eastern nation (8).
17)   Alas I may become disoriented in this country (8)
18)   Mother makes some eggs at Iowa country fair (8)
19)   May sail a craft past straits settlements (8)
20)   Kettle produces one ampere for SE Asian country (8)
21)   Ms. Farrow circles angrily at first, then lays down under
              neighbour (8)
22)   I start to apologise after mother ravishes Thai neighbour (8)
23)   ...so set sail, May, to a tropical paradise (8)
24)   Where French sickness, say, gets confused with central pain (8)
25)   Mother provides eggs in absentia for SE Asian nation (8)
26)   Mark a place near Siam, mostly! (8) 

BONUS clues

Mama mia!  My initial outlays in your homeland (8)
Confused Siam with a place inside a neighbouring country? (8)
North of Singapore, a sail may collapse (8)
  
The participants, clues, explanation and 
        <moderators comments>, if any,  follow:

1) From: dtk <kurtzdt@musc.edu>(david kurtz)
A thousand put down in Asia! (8)
A THOUSAND = M
PUT DOWN = lay
IN ASIA = def and  M  A-LAY-SIA

<I get the feeling that this clue is unsolvable>

2) From: matthew@ella.mills.edu (Matthew A. Merzbacher)
Salad is "Yam a la Sarawak", and more (8)
	Salad			=	anagram indicator
	is yam a la		=	anagram fodder
	Sarawak, and more	=	defn. (Sarawak being one of 13 states
that  
                                                         make up the
Federation of Malaysia)

<Nice touch, Prof but is it edible ? Yam is more an African/Polynesian
dish and it is too hard to eat raw. >

Special Personalised Bonus Clue!
Mama mia!  My initial outlays in your homeland (8)
	Mama mia		=	charade fodder
	My initial		=	MAM (middle name = Allen)
	out-			=	remove
	-lays			=	addition fodder
	in			=	add
	MAMAMIA without MAM plus LAYS = MA (MAM) LAYS IA
	your homeland	=	defn.

<Thank you, my mentor. Your outlays should be spent on the
air-tickets, beach clothes, suntan lotion and you can be my guest in
Malaysia>

3) From: pvr@wg.icl.co.uk (Phil Rose)
Wind from Madagascar hits Thailand? Not quite, further south (8)
Wind                => GAS (ie bodily vapours)
from                 => Removal indicator
Madagascar    => MALA(GAS)Y
hits                 .=> juxtaposition indicator
Thailand Not quite   => SIA(M)
further south   => Alluding to Malaysia being further south from
Thailand

<The cryptic bits are a tad too difficult which should contribute to a
large Oomph factor when you solve this, if you can. Geographically
correct>

4) From: Dirk Laurie <dirk@calvyn.puk.ac.za>
Oriental land where a lama is transfigured about the second unknown
(8)
   A LAMA IS transfigured = MALASIA
   the second unknown = Y (X usually being the first: I'm a
mathematician)
   Surface reading: I've no idea how prevalent Buddhism is in
Malaysia,
   but doesn't 'the second unknown' have a mystical ring to it?  

<Trust a mathematician to sound like Agent Mulder. However, the word,
Lama is very Tibetan and therefore does not produce the required
imagery>

5) From: bobg@cullen.demon.co.uk (Bob Gregory)
A poem is read upside down in the mother country (8)
                A LAY = A narrative poem / ballad (Chambers / Collins)
                IS read upside down = SI
                in the MOTHER = in M...A
                country = defn.

<Very professional construction and thats about it>

6) From: Richard Irving     rri1@pge.com
Maia lays, drunk, in Asian country (8)
Maia lays = anagram fodder
drunk = anagram indicator
Asian country = definition

<Maia was the mother of Hermes by Zeus. Sorry, Richard, wrong century,
wrong country and too obvious an anagram>

7) From: yokelim@ylchew.pc.my (Chew Yoke Lim)
Ay, salami ingredients mixed in South East Asian country. (8)
ay + salami (ingredients) = anagram fodder
mixed = anagram indicator
South East Asian country = Malaysia

<Nope, ingredient is too obtrusive and the anagram is far too
obvious. Besides, we dont really take to salami in Malaysia>

8) From: nigelz@halcyon.com (Nigel Bardsley)
Asian country gets first-rate return, ending depression we hear (8)
Asian country = definition
first-rate = A1 (A one)  return => IA
ending = following
depression = malaise
we hear = homophone. Malaise = Malays

<For a physician, you certainly know your economics. Since the end of
our depression in 1987, Malaysia has been registering at least 8%
annual growth every year. Honourable mention for Dr Bardsley.>

9)  From: ab388@freenet.carleton.ca (Jules E. Lafrance)
Nice seeing local star proceed to New York....(linked clue from Sunny)
... nicer yet in part of Asia where many lay incontinent? (8)
Explanation: Definition: "part of Asia";
             "many" = "M" for one thousand;
             "lay" = part of solution;
             "incontinent" broken down gives "in continent" or to put 
              it differently, in Asia (already mentioned).  "lay" in 
              " Asia"  is "alaysia", ergo "M" + "alaysia".
Since both words were meant to be with each other I linked the two 
definitions in a way suggesting solver has a choice of "two nice
places." Sorry if my second clue literally implies your local
residents actually "lay incontinent".  I am sure your people are just
as healthy as ours given that they live in a sunny atmosphere, and I
assume you can take a bit of ribbing :-) ...  But then I did say,
"nicer" [in Malaysia] in the second clue, didn't I?

<Jules is the winner of ACC#72. In CWC, however, he has not been able
to capture  the right imagery. Well, you can't win them all, can you?>

10) From: Yawolos@aol.com (Barrie Soloway)
An island of half yams amongst sliced salami
      half yams = ya
sliced salami = anagram salami
             mal  ay sia

<See Clue 7 above. You are also geographically wrong. Part of Malaysia
is a peninsula and the eastern states, Sabah and Sarawak are part of
the island of Kalimantan (colonial name is Borneo) which is shared
with Brunei & Indonesia>
  
11) From: Kevin Wald <wald@math.uchicago.edu>
Out loud, ponder continent where Kuala Lumpur is (8)
        where Kuala Lumpur is = MALAYSIA
        ponder = MULL
        continent = ASIA
        Out loud = homonym indicator
        MULL ASIA is a homonym of MALAYSIA (at least, according to the

	   Merriam-Webster 9th Collegiate it is).

<Kevin whom I have always admired as a master craftsman of devious
clues has done it again.  The word continent also serves to mislead
solvers from thinking of a country in this delightful game of wits
called cryptic crosswords. Who said I dont like homophones ? This one
turns me on. Second prize to the mathematician>

Bonus : Confused Siam with a place inside a neighbouring country? (8)
        a neighbouring country? = MALAYSIA, a neighbouring country to 
				   Thailand (= Siam)
        Confused = anagram indicator
	Siam (anagrammed) = MSIA
	place = LAY (taking "place" as a verb)
	MSIA with A+LAY inside = MALAYSIA

<I think this clue is either unsolvable or has plenty of the Oomph
factor. Like Clue 3, you will probably arrive at the answer first from
the definition and then work backwards to understand the cryptic bits>

12) From: msb@sq.com (Mark )
Lays in sloth as mother runs around the country (8)
	Lays            = LAYS
	in                 = container indicator
	sloth            = AI
	mother        = MA
	as ... runs around = container indicator
	   -> M(A(LAYS)I)A = the country
The surface reading uses the informal intransitive use of "to lay".

<I dont get it. Why sloth equates to AI ?>

13) From: "Ed Coulson 814-863-0625" <FYJ@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Country song is modulating between A minor (inversion) and A (8)
Country = definition
song = LAY
is modulating = SI
    (n.b. for surface: modulation is a change of key, right?)
A minor = Am => A minor (inversion) = MA
   (n.b. for surface: an inversion of a chord is a reordering of the
    notes in the chord to provide a different bass note.)
A=A.  So the whole is rendered MA(LAY)(SI)A.

<Sorry, Prof, this doesnt strike a chord with me. But then, Im
tone-deaf>

14) From: bcs@sc.harris.com (Brian Spollen)
Small, exclusive place?  Yes, in Asia! (8)
   "exclusive" = not counting the first and last of (usually applied 
    to a range of numbers; applied here to letters instead)
    "small, exclusive" = "mal" (all but the first and last of "small")

    "place yes in" = insert "Y" into "Asia" = "Asia"; 
    thus, "mal" + "a(y)sia"
    def. = &lit (although not the smallest country in Asia, it's
certainly a lot smaller than Russia, China, and India in area)

<Yes,  indeed a halal (Malaysian Muslim equivalent of kosher) &lit
clue. But we are not snobbish. You are welcome to visit us. 
Honourable mention for Senor Brian>

BONUS clue: North of Singapore, a sail may collapse (8)
       "north of Singapore" = def.
       "a sail may" anagrammed = "Malaysia"
       "collapse" = anagram indicator

<Would have read better with a more positive anagram prompter ?>

15) From: "Samuel E. Buttrey" <buttrey@stat.Berkeley.EDU>
First, you're trapped in the Orient:
                                after,   flee West to this country (8)
First, you = Y
Orient = ASIA; you're trapped in the Orient = A(Y)SIA
flee = LAM; West, that's MAL
MAL + AYSIA = "this country"

<I doubt this clue is  solvable >

16) From: Dave Eggleston <de5360@csc.albany.edu>
Heartless mob has plans for Eastern nation.
      Heartless = remove "heart" of ...
      mob = MAFIA
      has = container indicator
      plans = lays (the verb)
      for = produces
      Eastern nation = def.  MA(LAYS)IA

<see 15 above>

17) From: DW Bullock <BULLOCK@whio.lincoln.ac.nz>
Alas I may become disoriented in this country (8)
========== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    ------------
anagram        indicator          definition    

<I like the way you presented your clue. Although technically almost
perfect,  the whole clue is nothing else>
 
18) From: SAILORJOHN@delphi.com
Mother makes some eggs at Iowa country fair (8)
Explanation:  A charade:
    "Mother" = "Ma"
    "makes some eggs" = "lays"  (as does a hen)
    "Iowa" = "IA" (standard postal abbreviation)
    charade of "Ma", "lays" and "IA" is MALAYSIA
    "country fair" = definition of Malaysia
Although I AM sure that Malaysia is indeed a "country fair",
I'm not sure whether Malaysia HAS country fairs as is common in
the USA, particularly in the midwestern states, such as Iowa. At such
fairs, people from the town/county/state sponsoring the fair bring
livestock, produce, food creations, etc. in competitions for prizes,
e.g. "largest pumpkin", "best apple pie", etc.  Sometimes there are
even eating contests, such as the egg-eating contest shown in the
Paul Newman movie "Cool Hand Luke".

<The weather in Malaysia, practically straddling the equator, is too
hot and humid for country fairs to be popular. But I do know there are
occasional horticultural and agricultural shows for farmers; such
shows being held very early in the morning or in the evening. Your
clue has oomph. Sailor John, if you can find a voluptuous maiden by
the name of May, see Clue 23>

19) From: "Murray W. Smith" <msmith@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
May sail a craft past straits settlements (8)
	May sail a = anagram fodder =MALAYSIA
	craft = anagram indicator
	past - indicates historically
	straits settlements = the part of Malaysia that was formerly a 
		British possession (when capitalised)

<Historically, the Straits Settlement (after Straits of Malacca)
comprising Penang, Malacca and Singapore were joined with the
Federated Malay States of Perak, Selangor, Pahang, Negri Sembilan and
Trengganu and with the Unfederated Malay State of Perlis, Kedah,
Kelantan and Johore to form Malaya. In 1957, Malaya became independent
while Singapore remained a British colony. In 1963, Singapore, Sabah
and Sarawak joined Malaya to form Malaysia but Singapore left the
Federation in 1965. So we are now 13 states plus two Federal
Territories (Kuala Lumpur, the capital where I live and the island of
Labuan.)
For this beautiful imagery of a sail boat travelling peacefully down
the Straits of Malacca, you are awarded the Third Prize and become
Joint Overall Champion for CWC#84. In a draw, you have won the
privilege and honour of being moderator of CWC#85 >

20) From: dukky@cybercomm.net (Johnston)
Kettle produces one ampere for SE Asian country.
Kettle = MA
produces = LAYS (as in an egg)
one = I
ampere = A
SE Asian country = direct definition

<Your clue has plenty of oomph. By now you should cotton on that this
is my euphemism for a low solvability factor>

21) From: merlyn@dgii.com (Brian Westley)
Ms. Farrow circles angrily at first, then lays down 
                                                   under neighbour (8)
       (getting back at Woody?)
	Ms. Farrow = MIA
	circles = contains...
	angrily, at first = A
	then = +
	lays = LAYS
	Down Under neighbour = definition of M(A+LAYS)IA

<Brian, you want this newsgroup to be proscribed in Malaysia ? We are
quite a conservative Muslim-dominated country and jaring (the
Government-sponsored Internet server) is directed to block out erotic
material. So we dont get to ogle at Playmates and Penthouse Pets
anymore. And we have uninformed politicians ranting about Cyberspace
Porn. By the way, is the house next door to Ms Farrow for sale?>

22) From: galejs@ll.mit.edu (Robert Galejs)
I start to apologise after mother ravishes Thai neighbour (8)
	Thai neighbour = Malaysia (definition)
	mother = MA
	ravishes = copulates with = LAYS
	I = I
	start to apologise = A
	IA after MALAYS = MALAYSIA

<See 21 above>

23)  From: kamarif@pop.jaring.my (Kamal Shah)
Its bright and breezy...... (linked clue from Sunny)
...so set sail, May, to a tropical paradise (8)
"so set" is the anagram indicator for words SAIL and MAY = MALAYSI
and this to A = MALAYSIA which of course is the TROPICAL PARADISE

<YES, this is it, the clue I have been  waiting for. Dr Kamal Shah has
the advantage of home ground and produced such an idyllic set of clues
that captured the essence of Malaysia. Winner of the MALAYSIA clues
and Joint Overall Champion.
 By the way, Dr Kamals family owns a beach resort in historical
Malacca that Sailor John can practically sail to. I am sure he can
arrange for some very special discounts for members of this newsgroup
who visit Malaysia. Maybe when he gets to moderate the next
competition in this newsgroup, he may offer a one-week free stay (with
May or even possibly with Amy or if you are so unlucky that they have
other prior engagements, a piece of yam, courtesy of Prof Matthew
Merzbacher)  at the Shah Beach Resort for the winner.>

24) From: Una Kirby SMS <unak@aldiscon.ie>
Where French sickness, say, gets confused with central pain (7)
       French sickness = mal 
       central pain = ai
       confused (mal + say + ai) = malaysia 

<Ouch !>

25) From: dmonson@Direct.CA (Don Monson)
Mother provides eggs in absentia for SE Asian nation (9)
	Mother		MA
	provides eggs	LAYS
	in absentia		i.a. (certified dictionary abbreviation)
	for			connector
	SE Asian nation	definition

<Cant say you have excited me with this fowl clue. You may be
interested to know that in Malay, ibu is mother and ayam is chicken;
together ibu ayam is a mother hen. It is also a term for a woman who
manages a string of hostesses. The Japanese equivalent is mama-san. >

 26) From: jbergman@oxygen.bbn.com (Jacob Bergmann)
Mark a place near Siam, mostly! (8)
        mark                    M (currency)
        a                          A
        place                   (verb) LAY
        near                     connective
        Siam mostly         SIA
          Definition &lit.  "mostly" indicates that
          part of Malaysia is across the South China
          Sea on Borneo, hence not "near Siam"

<A good geographically correct clue.  Honourable Mention>

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