Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:08:27 -0500 From: Doris Markland Subject: Gleason Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an Emmy. - D. M. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:14:57 -0500 From: Tom Lee Subject: Re: Signs On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Doris Markland wrote: > I love crop circles and thought I would see a lot of them and maybe hear > some of the theories that have been considered. I'm sure that would have happened had this movie been a documentary on crop circles. But it wasn't. It was a story about a family brought together by a crisis. The rest is almost incidental. > one of the Culkin boys looking pale and suffering from asthma, As a childhood sufferer of asthma, I found the asthma attack scenes terrifyingly realistic. I could feel what the boy was feeling. > By contrast, I saw part of a documentary on crop circles the other night > and it was fascinating. Much better than the movie. I am glad that you found something worthwhile to spend your time on. It's too bad you didn't like "Signs," but de gustibus. As for me, I'm glad I went to see it. I don't see many movies in the theater. -- Take care, Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net) whose asthma is much less severe now, almost to the point of nonexistence -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:08:02 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Gleason Doris Markland said: > Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as > Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an > Emmy. I taped it, watched the last few mimnutes. What I saw was very good. Karen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:31:10 -0500 From: Doris Markland Subject: Re: Signs > on. It's too bad you didn't like "Signs," but de gustibus. As for me, > I'm glad I went to see it. I don't see many movies in the theater. > > -- > Take care, > Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net) Well, there you have it. Different strokes for different folks. - D. M. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:53:04 +0200 From: steph Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 03:16:11PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: = steph said: = > = > = > = > That's illegal! = > = = > = It's also illegal for their dogs to bark at me every time our paths = > = cross. = > = = > = > Is it really? = = Yes. = So is that like there's an automagic restraining order on all dogs? They can't talk to you if they want? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:12:05 +0200 From: steph Subject: Re: Elevator? On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 07:25:15PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: = = I can't imagine choosing how much to pay for a house based on its = space. Maybe I am into houses and nesting more than I realized. Stark = space means nothing to me. The of a house and its = neighborhood do. = The whole market in Amsterdam works on square meters. Some parts of town are more expensive than others, and you can get small variations based on the state of the house. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:26:28 -0500 From: Amy Burns Short Subject: Re: Gleason Doris Markland said: > Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as > Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an > Emmy. >I taped it, watched the last few mimnutes. What I saw was very good. >Karen I watched a documentary on Frank Lloyd Wright. AS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:35:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Elevator? "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >I'm not sure that I am. It's just a thought. But why did B&C move to > >BH? > > We've been over that many times. Pay attention. My question was rhetorical. It was a question that makes the statement that moving in retirement is something that's . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:41:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? alyce cresap wrote: > > No. My point is that I don't see much relationship between cost and the > > number of rooms or the size of the house > > Number of rooms and size of house are major elements in determining the > cost of a house. How can you not see this? I understand that they are one element and that some people narrow their house searches to those that are large enough to accommodate their x number of children or regular guests, etc. But what I can't see at all is saying something like "I wouldn't pay that much for a 1000-sq-ft 1br/1bath house because I could get a 2000-sq-ft 3br/2bath house for that amount." Cute smaller houses in desirable locations cost more than larger uncute houses in undesirable locations. Or at least that is my experience. Maybe it doesn't work that way in the Northeast. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 05:46:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Elevator? steph wrote: > The whole market in Amsterdam works on square meters. Some parts That's true to a large extent in Tokyo, at least for rent costs. I guess it's more likely to be like that in a city with scarce space. It's for sure not like that in Starkville re rent. The neighborhood for renters (where my other house is) is full of teeny, teeny, tiny, tiny apartments -- but all -- at far higher rent than large apartments in other parts of town. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:19:40 -0500 From: Amy Burns Short Subject: Going Postal to Japan I need to mail some software programs (with original packaging) to a guy = in Japan who is taking over for me as media review editor for TESL-EJ. = What I have will fit in a small-to-medium box. What's the best way to go about this? (Outside of the obvious details) AS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:23:49 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: 12 bullets - 0 hit me I'm glad you're ok. The "0 hit me" is extra cause to be thankful today. BrP > 12 bullets - 0 hit me > > At 23:47, September 28th (Saturday), > I bought some groceries and a package of snack food, > from Jane, an Oriental cashier at Shopper's Drug Mart, open until midnight, > in the Tam O'Shanter Plaza, southwest corner, > at Sheppard Avenue East and Birchmount Road, > (in the former City of Scarborough), in what is now legally in The City of > Toronto. > > She is studying telecommunications at a college or university. > > I walked over to the wooden bench behind the bus shelter, > sat down, and started to munch on the snack food. > > Pretty soon, I heard some sounds that I decided were gunfire, > so I got horizontal on the wooden bench, reducing the high profile of my head > being over the wooden bench. > > I heard six shots, then a pause, then another six shots. > > I saw a guy race past me, from the south, rush into the intersection, > and cross diagonally from the southwest corner to the northeast corner. > > As he was racing past me, I didn't notice much about him - I was > preoccupied with hoping that no bullets would penetrate the wooden bench. > > After he got to the northeast corner, about a dozen feet further, > he slowed down a lot. I noticed that he was wearing dark pants. > From the point of view of lying on a wooden bench, > I did not notice much else. > > A few minutes later, a TTC bus stopped at the bus stop. > > I decided to report the shooting to the driver. > > I was surprised to recognize the bus driver as an e-mail correspondent. > > I asked him to contact the police. > > Then I started to walk home. > > I had only crossed the intersection (both streets), and gone a few yards, > when I saw a police car rush westward, towards me, then past me, > and turn south, then make a right-hand turn into the Tam O'Shanter Plaza > parking lot. > > (Eventually there were 5 cars.) > > I crossed the streets again, and walked into the parking lot. > > A policeman ordered me to stay out of the parking lot, and keep to the > sidewalk. > > I mentioned to him that I had been almost in the middle of the shooting, > so he assigned me to be interviewed by a junior officer. > > The junior officer was ordered to seal off the parking lot, so he drove his > car to the west entrance, and sealed it off with yellow tape. > > Probably some other officer(s) sealed off the east entrance. > > One of the officers told me that they were looking for shells, > and that they could be in the parking lot, or in the grass outside the > parking lot, so do not stand on the grass, stand only on the sidewalk. > > By that time, other people had arrived. > > Two women were saying that it was the third shooting in two months. > > The two women mentioned that a window (or windows) of a car in the parking lot > had been shot out. The glass was lying in the lot. > > By that time, 5 cars had arrived: 1 on the street, 3 near the Shopper's > Drug Mart drugstore near the east end of the parking lot, and 1 (driven by > the junior officer) near the west entrance. > > After the junior officer finished sealing off the west entrance with yellow > tape, > he walked back to me and asked me to walk to his car. > > I walked to the car, near the west entrance, and he asked me to sit in the > passenger seat, so that he could take down my story. > > I saw on his computerized reporting system that a resident of the apartment > building on Birchmount Road (west side), almost a block north of Sheppard > Avenue East, had reported hearing the sound of gunshots. > > He then put away the computerized display, probably to avoid contaminating > my evidence, and to maintain privacy for whoever reported the sounds of > gunshots, and scribbled my story on a narrow pad of paper. > > My Shopper's Drug Mart bill states that I bought the groceries at 24:01, > but their computer's clock is 14 minutes fast, so the actual time was 23:47. > > He changed the time that I gave for buying groceries from 23:47 to 23:45. > > He asked me about the other male youth, but I only saw one. > > He asked me whether the male youth that I saw was wounded, but I saw no > reason to think that he was wounded. > > I think that I heard on the police radio that two black male youths had > been involved, and that there were bloodstains leading to the entrance of > 20 Carabob Court, the building closest to the northeast corner, but that > the building's super reported that the man had been unable to enter the > building. > > The building's side door, closest to the street, requires a key. Only > residents would be likely to have a key. > > At 03:47 AM 9/29/02 -0400, the bus driver wrote: > > >So did anybody get shot lastnight at Sheppard and Birchmount? > >The cops closed off the whole parking lot. > > and I sent him an earlier form of this message. > > I talked to a security guard a couple days later. > > He said that 100% of the violence was from male black youths, > that it was not racist to say that, > and that anyone who thought that every ethnic group was equal in behaviour > was out of touch with reality. > > On Sunday night, October 6th, I talked again to Jane, > and she said that the shooting had occurred right in front of the store, > just 5 minutes after I left. > > She said that an acquaintance had 2 bullet holes in his car, > and one shell was inside the car. > > This may well have been the same car that the two women pointed out to me > as having the broken window(s). > > Of course, with 12 bullets flying around, it could have been a different car. > > I mentioned the event to a travelling saleswoman in Wal-Mart. > > She said that shootings are never mentioned in the media, whether > newspaper, radio, or TV, > unless someone is murdered. > > There are just too many of them. > > > Jim McIntosh Paul R. Barfoot Special Collections Syracuse University Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:35:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? bonniev wrote: > here. I've learned that it all depends on where you are from. One couple > thought it was ridiculously cheap that The Hearthside, a nine bedroom, nine > bath, in town, excellently maintained Victorian home would be worth about > $900,000. Don't you agree that that's cheap for such a place? Even here in plain, stark Starkville there's at least one house currently for sale for over a million. I think the ad I saw said $1,100,000. (The average cost of a house here is $180,000, though. Or so I read somewhere not long ago.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:37:25 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Elevator? natalie wrote: >>I'm not sure that I am. It's just a thought. But why did B&C move to >>BH? > >We've been over that many times. Pay attention. >cwv I think Natalie's question was rhetorical, trying to say that her move to Bay St. Louis would be similar to our move to Bar Harbor. But that's hardly the case. We didn't move because we were restless. We didn't move to an area that we had merely passed through years ago. We didn't have a community of friends to leave behind in Oak Ridge. We didn't relocate within the same state. Nothing is similar between our move and Natalie's possible move. The one connection is that retirement made it possible to move. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:00:01 -0400 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >What? To decide what you're good at so you can do it in your dotage? I will be chosing among work options - and want all the information I can get. Bethany -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:26:59 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: How About This One? >My realtor told me the other day that this place probably wouldn't >last too long on the market, because "cheaper homes" are going fast. >Comparables in this neighborhood are running about $475,000. Half a >million dollars is a "cheaper home" here. >Janet Yesterday was my last day at the Inn this season. There was a fun, young group gathered at cookie time. They asked me about real estate prices here. I've learned that it all depends on where you are from. One couple thought it was ridiculously cheap that The Hearthside, a nine bedroom, nine bath, in town, excellently maintained Victorian home would be worth about $900,000. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:39:54 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Elevator? >remember the name of the motel at which she stayed, it started with an E I >think, but it was 4 buildings and her building had a common balcony across >the back. --Adam http://www.acadia.net/edenbrook/ That's almost right next door to The Cleftstone Inn where we used to stay. Pretty good location, just a block or two out of the village. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:39:45 +0200 From: Espen Ore Subject: Trashing and WHTUIP I have to admit that I just deleted about 1000 words-l messages even if there was a lot of interesting stuff on homewreckers and whores. While all this has been going on Ingjerd and I have been in a place where the supermarked chain (Intermarche) has at least four different kinds of oysters in all the shops (two) we have sampled. There was also an offer we couldn't refuse: two kilograms of oysters for 6.50 Euro. Two kilograms were 23 oysters. I have only been in Paris before so this was quite a change. The (other) drivers were generally considerate: when we had to spend some time to park outside "our" house in the village (Speracedes) the drivers who had to wait since the street was to narrow to let them by until we were finally parked just did so as a matter of fact. I also found that there was alot of tolerance for my far from fluent spoken French so as opposed to my Paris experiences I actually managed to do most of my interface with the locals and the car renting firm and so on in French. We found walking (and in some cases close to hiking) trails up at between 600 and 850 meters, just where the hilly plateau up above the Riviera started. (Speracedes itself is a little further down the slopes towards the sea.) Blackberries were (over)ripe and the wild figs were beginning to ripen. Birds and butterflies and a weather which made pastis on the balcony in the afternoon a good thing. This was when the weather in Oslo was around the freezing point which made it all the better to be away from there. Espen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:48:35 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >Well, there you have it. >Different strokes for different folks. > - D. M. Speaking of movies, I've discovered that my attention span is shot. I started watching Chocolat on Starz the other night because I wanted to knit. After an hour of a fairly good movie I couldn't sit still anymore and came back to Scrabble and email. I read the book so I know how the movie ends. It didn't seem worth sitting through. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:51:12 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Elevator? bonniev wrote: > I think Natalie's question was rhetorical, trying to say that her move to > Bay St. Louis would be similar to our move to Bar Harbor. But that's > hardly the case. Correct that my question was rhetorical. And I don't see it as all that different, although I obviously didn't mean that everything about the moves would be identical. For one thing, mine would be a much closer move. I'm not sure what the exact distance is between here and Bay St. Louis, but it would probably be about the same as between here and Atlanta -- about a five-hour drive. > We didn't move because we were restless. I'm not necessarily restless. I do think moving is fun, though. It's an adventure. > We didn't move > to an area that we had merely passed through years ago. I wouldn't move to Bay St. Louis without first spending some time there. In fact, I'm eager to find time to do that -- time to go down there for a few days and get the . Obviously, I'm not planning on moving anywhere as long as my mother is living. That's another reason this is not a firm plan of any kind. > We didn't have a > community of friends to leave behind in Oak Ridge. Why did you not have friends in OR? > We didn't relocate > within the same state. This would make my move easier, of course. No having to fool with partial-year income taxes for two different states, etc. etc. And it would be important re medical insurance. My insurance pays very little out of state. (This is why my friends who moved to BH last year come back to Starkville for medical stuff -- or at least serious [i.e., costly] medical stuff.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:53:10 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Signs bonniev wrote: > It didn't seem worth sitting through. I often find that the case when I start watching a movie on tv. But not always. I watched all of "A Few Good Men" a few nights ago and felt no desire to leave it at any point. Ditto that one a week or two ago about the man traveling on his lawnmower. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:00:39 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: How About This One? >bonniev wrote: > > here. I've learned that it all depends on where you are from. One couple > > thought it was ridiculously cheap that The Hearthside, a nine bedroom, nine > > bath, in town, excellently maintained Victorian home would be worth about > > $900,000. > >Don't you agree that that's cheap for such a place? Even here in plain, >stark Starkville there's at least one house currently for sale for over >a million. I think the ad I saw said $1,100,000. (The average cost of >a house here is $180,000, though. Or so I read somewhere not long ago.) > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No, I don't think that is cheap. It strikes me as just right. But that's because I'm accustomed to the cost of homes and Inns here. The Cleftstone, the inn where we used to stay, just went on the market. They are asking $1,750,000. It's a sixteen bedroom, sixteen bath, turn-of-the-century, historic register mansion. That also seems about right. Here's a list of some of the B&Bs that are for sale right now in Maine: http://www.swanagency.com/cgi-bin/database/db_search.cgi?setup_file=swan_bb.setup&submit_search=yes If that doesn't work just go to the Swan Agency and take it from there. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:06:06 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Gleason Doris Markland wrote: > > Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as > Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an > Emmy. Many times while watching Raymond I've thought he looked like Gleason. I am a Jackie Gleason 2. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:05:48 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Elevator? >Why did you not have friends in OR? I guess we are just not very friendly people. Or maybe it was because all the southerners hated us because we are Yankees. >This would make my move easier, of course. No having to fool with >partial-year income taxes for two different states, etc. etc. That was pretty easy for us because Tennessee does not have income tax and Maine makes it very easy to pay them income tax. > And it would be important re medical insurance. My insurance pays very > little >out of state. -- Natalie Yes, that was a problem for us also which is one of the reasons why we now have expensive, sucky medical insurance. Nevertheless, it was worth it to come live in Maine. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:06:57 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Elevator? > (This is why my friends who moved to BH last year come >back to Starkville for medical stuff -- or at least serious [i.e., >costly] medical stuff.) -- Natalie I had a physician I really, really liked in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. But nothing would make me travel back there for medical stuff. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:10:08 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Gleason oh, that's who he is! I saw a little bit of Gleason last night and was trying to figure out why the actor looked familiar. I was never much of a Gleason fan, but what I saw of the show last night looked like it was very well done. BrP > > Many times while watching Raymond I've thought he looked like Gleason. I > am a Jackie Gleason 2. > > alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:19:45 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Going Postal to Japan Amy Burns Short wrote: > > What's the best way to go about this? (Outside of the obvious details) Wrap securely. Send via Air Letter Post. Put a green customs slip on the package (available at the p.o.). No big deal. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:42:28 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Food question 10/11/2002, 3:40 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> But he doesn't mind at all talking about how many NM> millions of dollars their house in Hville is worth or how many millions NM> they paid for the house in Vail, etc. etc. Do you mind when he does this talking? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:44:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Food question 10/11/2002, 4:00 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> KK> I don't think liver is in that category. What I'm talking about is >> KK> genetic--having actual different receptors. Tony can talk about this >> KK> better. >> >> This is the same type of thing as "asparagus urine", isn't it? NM> What do you mean? That not every asparagus eater has asparagus urine? No. Since we were talking about having receptors, it would be in the nose/taste buds of the beholder. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:45:15 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Word question 10/11/2002, 4:13 PM, Tushar Samant wrote: TS> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:18:00PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: >> I regularly use them all as one word: email, website, printout (though >> use that much less frequently these days), online, homepage, et.al. >> Since you seem to concur by your comments regarding "online" that it >> has been long enough for it to be a word, and since the others will, >> like it or not become singleword terms eventually, why try to stop >> the flow with your finger in the dike. TS> Why vote in a clearly unequal race? Why indeed? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:53:50 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Word question 10/11/2002, 5:15 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> >> You lose with me. Email is actually a word, in french I believe, and NM> In French?? Why would "email" be a word in French? "Mail" isn't. NOTE BELOW. First the term derived from French, if not still French. I'll leave that to others. Also note "email" being used in 1982 for the type of thing we're doing right now. Used attrib. in email ink, ink used on glass, porcelain, etc.; email ombrant Pottery, a process in which the impressions of the design appear as shadows (see quots. a1877 and 1957). a1877 KNIGHT Dict. Mech. I. 796/1 Email-ombrant, a process which consists in flooding colored but transparent glasses over designs stamped in the body of earthenware or porcelain. 1880 C. A. JANVIER Pract. Keramics viii. 95 In these the pattern is..exactly the opposite of the émaux ombrants. a1884 KNIGHT Dict. Mech. Suppl., Email ink... Colored inksblack, white, red, blueused with a quill on glass, porcelain, ivory, marble, bone, mother of pearl, or metal. 1957 MANKOWITZ & HAGGAR Encycl. Eng. Pott. & Porc. 83/2 Email ombrant, an illusionist style of decoration like lithophane but the intaglio decoration was filled with coloured glaze (usually green) which produced a monochrome picture in a variety of tones. Developed at the Rubenes [sic = Rubelles] factory by Baron A. du Tremblay in the 1840's. Colloq. shortening of electronic mail s.v. ELECTRONIC a. 3. 1982 Computerworld 5 July 68 ADR/Email is reportedly easy to use and features simple, English verbs and prompt screens. 1983 Infosystems Sept. 113/2 Email promotes movement of information through space. 1984 Listener 28 June 38/1 E-mail achieves the same as a telex, or teleprinter, but at much lower cost. 1986 Times 14 Jan. 27/5 Electronic mailnow known universally as e-mail. The partnership of word processor and e-mail almost eliminate [sic] the need for paper. 1986 Sunday Times 25 May 69/6 Simple enough for ‘email’, as it is sometimes called, to be one of the fastest-growing businesses in the world. In Britain, Telecom Gold is doubling its email customer base every year. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:59:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Yesteryear 10/12/2002, 6:04 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> "Intersanctum" Trust this has been corrected by now? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:02:26 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in >From: Karen Kay > > Yeah, buy dog biscuits and toss them to the dogs. Couldn't hurt. > >My impression is that dog owners don't like outsiders feeding their >dogs. If that's the case they shouldn't let their dogs wander around without leashes. We keep a package of T-Bones in the pantry for the two dogs -- Simon the Beagle, and Domino the Dalmation -- that come to visit us. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:02:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Finally! 10/12/2002, 6:52 AM, steph wrote: s> In windows2000 it's what you type in the 'run' box to get a 'dos' s> window. In NT you type 'command'. It's probably something else s> again under xp. Same as in Win2K in XP. cmd -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:02:56 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Finally! 10/12/2002, 7:00 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> In windows2000 it's what you type in the 'run' box to get a 'dos' >> window. In NT you type 'command'. It's probably something else >> again under xp. NM> I dunno. I almost never have occasion to use the 'run' box. The first NM> thing I do with a new computer is create a DOS shortcut that sits right NM> in the middle of my . Which of course is just what the shortcut does. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:03:45 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: movie review >From: Anne Toal >Just saw the Mothman Prophecies, >starring Richard Gere. This is the >stupidest movie I have ever seen. Why did you even go to see it in the first place? It's not as if it received a single positive review. Have you already seen all the good movies? Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:04:17 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Transitions 10/12/2002, 7:14 AM, Amy Burns Short wrote: ABS> I'm out of ESL, but did not go quietly. A most unexpected set of ABS> unpleasantries were exchanged, and I am afraid I do not regret my role ABS> therein. Do you care to elaborate, if you haven't already? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:05:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Transitions 10/12/2002, 7:45 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Betty wrote: >> Are you going to remove the AS keys from the computer? NM> This reminds me of something I meant to ask y'all a couple of days ago. NM> Darnit. I can't remember now what the word is. It's the only word in NM> English that uses only the top keys keys (letter keys, that is) of a NM> keyboard. It started with roto. rotorooter would certainly be one. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:06:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Transitions 10/12/2002, 7:45 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Betty wrote: >> Are you going to remove the AS keys from the computer? NM> This reminds me of something I meant to ask y'all a couple of days ago. NM> Darnit. I can't remember now what the word is. It's the only word in NM> English that uses only the top keys keys (letter keys, that is) of a NM> keyboard. It started with roto. There are lots of them. tree power poop twee and a zillion others. do you mean only word over X characters long that only uses top row? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:07:56 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in >From: Natalie Maynor > > You must have lived a very insular life. I doubt that you have ever >been > > to Europe. > >I've never seen duck breasts at farmers' markets in Europe either They have fresh poultry at the farmers' market in Peekskill here. It comes from Hemlock Hill Farm which is about a mile from my home. It probably won't be there anymore in a couple of years. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:00:11 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: How About This One? Natalie Maynor said: > Don't you agree that that's cheap for such a place? Even here in plain, > stark Starkville there's at least one house currently for sale for over > a million. I think the ad I saw said $1,100,000. (The average cost of > a house here is $180,000, though. Or so I read somewhere not long ago.) That's *awfully* high. Are there that many million-dollar homes in Starkville?! Karen "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:02:15 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Elevator? bonniev said: > I think Natalie's question was rhetorical, trying to say that her move to > Bay St. Louis would be similar to our move to Bar Harbor. But that's > hardly the case. We didn't move because we were restless. We didn't move > to an area that we had merely passed through years ago. We didn't have a > community of friends to leave behind in Oak Ridge. We didn't relocate > within the same state. Nothing is similar between our move and Natalie's > possible move. The one connection is that retirement made it possible to move. I was going to say that most of the people I know who've moved are couples. But I've known single people who moved to some place they'd visited a lot and always wanted to move to. Where they were already established. I think this is common among academics, who aren't very mobile. Karen "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:12:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Elevator? (and rendezvous with S) bonniev wrote: > >This would make my move easier, of course. No having to fool with > >partial-year income taxes for two different states, etc. etc. > > That was pretty easy for us because Tennessee does not have income tax and > Maine makes it very easy to pay them income tax. Something I would check out for sure if I ever did leave Mississippi (which is not likely) would be whether the state I was moving to had reciprocity re no state income tax on state retirement income. That's one reason retirement pay ends up being higher than regular pay. I don't have to pay state income tax on it. But I do, of course, have to pay state income tax on any other income -- like the money I'm getting paid to teach right now and investment income. On a different subject, Sylvester and I are rendezvousing at my house at 11:30. I really hate the timing since I hate having to leave campus in the middle of a day. I'll have to rush home when I get out of my 10:00 class, rendezvous with Sylvester, eat a pnut butter sandwich, and then rush back to campus for my 1:00 class. That was the best time for him to pick up the piano. Surely he isn't coming alone, though. It took three men to deliver it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:03:25 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs bonniev said: > Speaking of movies, I've discovered that my attention span is shot. I > started watching Chocolat on Starz the other night because I wanted to > knit. After an hour of a fairly good movie I couldn't sit still anymore > and came back to Scrabble and email. I read the book so I know how the > movie ends. It didn't seem worth sitting through. Your loss. Karen "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:14:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Gleason alyce cresap wrote: > Many times while watching Raymond I've thought he looked like Gleason. I I saw a snippet not long ago of what was apparently an ad for this Gleason thing. I remember it because I was startled when I looked at my tv screen and saw what appeared to be Jackie Gleason in what appeared to be post-Gleason tv style. I thought he had risen from the dead. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:05:57 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Gleason Paul R. Barfoot said: > oh, that's who he is! I saw a little bit of Gleason last night and was > trying to figure out why the actor looked familiar. I was never much > of a Gleason fan, but what I saw of the show last night looked like it > was very well done. Did he gain weight for this, or is it all artificial? I hadn't realized his voice was so spot on. Karen "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:16:50 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Elevator? bonniev wrote: > I had a physician I really, really liked in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. But > nothing would make me travel back there for medical stuff. The difference is that The Blaneys had friends. They combine the visit with visiting friends. That's the one thing they say they really missed after their move -- their friends here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:18:04 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Food question Dan Lester wrote: > > 10/11/2002, 3:40 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> But he doesn't mind at all talking about how many > NM> millions of dollars their house in Hville is worth or how many millions > NM> they paid for the house in Vail, etc. etc. > > Do you mind when he does this talking? Mind? No, not particularly. It's no more boring to me than most of the things they talk about. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:12:51 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Signs >On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Doris Markland wrote: > > I am glad that you found something worthwhile to spend your time >on. It's too bad you didn't like "Signs," but de gustibus. As for me, >I'm glad I went to see it. I don't see many movies in the theater. I liked it pretty well up until the last 20 minutes, which I found breathtakingly stupid in more than one or two ways. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:19:40 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Food question Dan Lester wrote: > NM> What do you mean? That not every asparagus eater has asparagus urine? > > No. Since we were talking about having receptors, it would be > in the nose/taste buds of the beholder. So your "no" means no to my second question? Iow, all asparagus eaters produce asparagus urine, but some don't have the nose buds to smell it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:10:34 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > > > Yeah, buy dog biscuits and toss them to the dogs. Couldn't hurt. > > > >My impression is that dog owners don't like outsiders feeding their > >dogs. > > If that's the case they shouldn't let their dogs wander around without > leashes. In their back yard?! My neighbors on the right have dogs that get out from time to time. One of their dogs disappeared recently; I hope that coyotes didn't get it. All of their dogs are pleasant, but ditzy, and they stop barking when you tell them to shut up. I'm annoyed that their pets pee and poop on my lawn, but I find them a lot less annoying than the dogs in the back. Karen "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:20:44 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Winter clothes >From: Tushar Samant >Where can I buy some kick-ass cold-weather clothes in >New York, perhaps even including a jacket but certainly >something sweater-ish? > >Don't say "mail order", let mne just support the damn >economy. Thanks ... Hm...I'm not sure I know what kick-ass cold-weather clothes are exactly. First things that come to mind are Eastern Mountain Sports downtown at Broadway (and Mercer?) or Paragon Sports at 18th and Broadway. If you aren't looking for sporty stuff like that, uh, I don't know, go across the street to BLOOMINGDALE'S?! Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:20:27 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in 10/12/2002, 4:58 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> There should be leash laws for cats. In many places there are. However, trying to get them enforced seems impossible. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:15:40 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: How About This One? >>My realtor told me the other day that this place probably wouldn't >>last too long on the market, because "cheaper homes" are going fast. >>Comparables in this neighborhood are running about $475,000. Half a >>million dollars is a "cheaper home" here. > >Yesterday was my last day at the Inn this season. There was a fun, young >group gathered at cookie time. They asked me about real estate prices >here. I've learned that it all depends on where you are from. One couple >thought it was ridiculously cheap that The Hearthside, a nine bedroom, nine >bath, in town, excellently maintained Victorian home would be worth about >$900,000. That would be insanely cheap here too, but real estate money is play money in the BA. (You haven't seen my place, so let me explain that the $475,000 number cited above is for a 1250-sq-ft., 3 br., 2 ba. condo, architecturally undistinguished, in a safe but unfashionable neighborhood, in slightly rundown condition.) Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:21:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Word question Dan Lester wrote: > NM> In French?? Why would "email" be a word in French? "Mail" isn't. > > NOTE BELOW. First the term derived from French, if not still French. So it really is related to enamel? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:17:12 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Signs >>Well, there you have it. >>Different strokes for different folks. >> - D. M. > >Speaking of movies, I've discovered that my attention span is shot. I >started watching Chocolat on Starz the other night because I wanted to >knit. After an hour of a fairly good movie I couldn't sit still anymore >and came back to Scrabble and email. I read the book so I know how the >movie ends. It didn't seem worth sitting through. I have a hard time watching movies at home unless I'm doing something else -- knitting, cleaning, shining my shoes, or some other small brainless task to keep my hands busy. However, I have no trouble sitting still through a double-feature at a movie theater. Maybe it's the Raisinets. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:13:17 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Marie Ascher said: > >From: Natalie Maynor > > > You must have lived a very insular life. I doubt that you have ever > >been > > > to Europe. > > > >I've never seen duck breasts at farmers' markets in Europe either > > They have fresh poultry at the farmers' market in Peekskill here. It comes > from Hemlock Hill Farm which is about a mile from my home. It probably won't > be there anymore in a couple of years. There's an organic farm in Austin that's practically downtown. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:18:03 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Signs >bonniev wrote: > >> It didn't seem worth sitting through. > >I often find that the case when I start watching a movie on tv. But not >always. I watched all of "A Few Good Men" a few nights ago and felt no >desire to leave it at any point. Ditto that one a week or two ago about >the man traveling on his lawnmower. I was channel-surfing a week or two ago and got hooked by "The Color of Money." I don't remember how it was received when it first came out, but I thought it was terrific. The chemistry between Newman and Cruise really worked. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:14:20 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Elevator? (and rendezvous with S) Natalie Maynor said: > rush back to campus for my 1:00 class. That was the best time for him > to pick up the piano. Surely he isn't coming alone, though. It took > three men to deliver it. Why is Sylvester taking the piano away? Karen "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:24:16 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Marie Ascher wrote: > >My impression is that dog owners don't like outsiders feeding their > >dogs. > > If that's the case they shouldn't let their dogs wander around without > leashes. They aren't wandering around loose, are they? I assumed that they were in a fence -- but leaning against the fence in hopes of getting a sniff of Karen and her sweaty guests. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:28:13 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? Karen Kay wrote: > > a million. I think the ad I saw said $1,100,000. (The average cost of > > a house here is $180,000, though. Or so I read somewhere not long ago.) > > That's *awfully* high. Are there that many million-dollar homes in > Starkville?! My guess is that there's only this one million-plus house for sale right now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:28:37 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Food question >From: Natalie Maynor > > NM> What do you mean? That not every asparagus eater has asparagus >urine? > > > > No. Since we were talking about having receptors, it would be > > in the nose/taste buds of the beholder. > >So your "no" means no to my second question? Iow, all asparagus eaters >produce asparagus urine, but some don't have the nose buds to smell it? No -- I don't think that's the case. I have smelled *uc*'s asparagus urine, but I don't think I produce it. Or not like THAT anyway. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:29:36 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Transitions Dan Lester wrote: > rotorooter would certainly be one. I think it was a medical term of some kind. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:31:29 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Rooms >From: alyce cresap > > What's a "Sepa" master bedroom? > >Separate. Not a part of another room. Maybe off of a little hallway? Friends of mine used to live in a house in California where their bedroom was across a breezeway from the main house -- probably a converted structure, I was never there and didn't even know them at the time, just have heard of their house. They said it was a funky place, but it was a little disconcerting to be in what was actually a separate structure from their then very young children. I'm imagining that this house is probably like that. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:33:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Elevator? (and rendezvous with S) Karen Kay wrote: > Why is Sylvester taking the piano away? To refinish it. I wish I had left my house unlocked so that I could tell him just to go take it -- i.e., so I wouldn't have to go home to unlock the house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:37:06 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in 10/13/2002, 9:32 AM, steph wrote: = >> You should move out immediately!! s> = s> = No, I should stay in my house and shoot the dogs. s> = s> That's illegal! All depends on where you live, where the dogs are, and what they're doing. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:40:47 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Marie Ascher wrote: > > We keep a package of T-Bones in the pantry for the two dogs -- Simon the > Beagle, and Domino the Dalmation -- that come to visit us. Fine breeds, both! alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:35:34 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Yesteryear At 07:59 AM 10/14/2002 -0600, dan wrote: >10/12/2002, 6:04 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> "Intersanctum" > > Trust this has been corrected by now? No. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:38:26 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in At 10:07 AM 10/14/2002 -0400, marie wrote: >>From: Natalie Maynor >> > You must have lived a very insular life. I doubt that you have ever >>been >> > to Europe. >> >>I've never seen duck breasts at farmers' markets in Europe either > >They have fresh poultry at the farmers' market in Peekskill here. It comes >from Hemlock Hill Farm which is about a mile from my home. It probably won't >be there anymore in a couple of years. ...must be another of them cultural thangs... cwv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:44:33 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in >From: alyce cresap >Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > We keep a package of T-Bones in the pantry for the two dogs -- Simon the > > Beagle, and Domino the Dalmation -- that come to visit us. > >Fine breeds, both! Both very nice dogs. I don't think I've ever heard Domino bark. Simon does the classic beagle howl. Domino lives across the street, a little up the hill. The previous owners of our house also had a beagle -- who was also named Domino. On our visits looking at the house before buying we had met that Domino. On the day we moved in, we were cleaning in the kitchen, and I looked out the window and down the driveway pranced a dalmation. I thought, "Domino? You're supposed to be in North Carolina..." called his name, and he came running toward me. I thought they had forgotten their dog. Turns out, at one point the families accidentally swapped dogs for a couple hours. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:48:01 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in >From: Karen Kay > > If that's the case they shouldn't let their dogs wander around without > > leashes. > >In their back yard?! Sorry, wasn't following the thread in order. I thought the problem was that you thought they might attack, not just that they were barking, but on the other side of a fence. I live in a no-fence kind of neighborhood. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:48:40 -0400 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Subject: Re: 12 bullets - 0 hit me James McIntosh wrote: > 12 bullets - 0 hit me > Wow! Keep your head down! alec -- ------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:53:44 -0500 From: Doris Markland Subject: Re: Trashing and WHTUIP > I have to admit that I just deleted about 1000 words-l messages even if there was a lot of interesting stuff on homewreckers and whores. > > While all this has been going on Ingjerd and I have been in a place where the supermarked chain (Intermarche) has at least four different kinds of oysters in all the shops (two) we have sampled. There was also an offer we couldn't refuse: two kilograms of oysters for 6.50 Euro. Two kilograms were 23 oysters. > > I have only been in Paris before so this was quite a change. The (other) drivers were generally considerate: when we had to spend some time to park outside "our" house in the village (Speracedes) the drivers who had to wait since the street was to narrow to let them by until we were finally parked just did so as a matter of fact. I also found that there was alot of tolerance for my far from fluent spoken French so as opposed to my Paris experiences I actually managed to do most of my interface with the locals and the car renting firm and so on in French. > > We found walking (and in some cases close to hiking) trails up at between 600 and 850 meters, just where the hilly plateau up above the Riviera started. (Speracedes itself is a little further down the slopes towards the sea.) Blackberries were (over)ripe and the wild figs were beginning to ripen. Birds and butterflies and a weather which made pastis on the balcony in the afternoon a good thing. This was when the weather in Oslo was around the freezing point which made it all the better to be away from there. > > Espen I think you two are living the good life. And I think that's wonderful. - D. M. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:53:30 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Square Footage >From: Natalie Maynor >>Rita Chapman wrote: > > > They're all ugly. > >Including the cottage? I don't find it ugly. Me neither. I think it was adorable in the picture anyway. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:00:09 -0500 From: Doris Markland Subject: Re: Gleason > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as > > Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an > > Emmy. > > Many times while watching Raymond I've thought he looked like Gleason. I > am a Jackie Gleason 2. > > alyce He is much bigger than Gleason was, and I read that to keep him in perspective they made the door frames on the set larger than usual, and made oversized cigarettes so his hands wouldn't look so big, etc. - D. M. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:52:51 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Janet Hardy said: > >bonniev wrote: > > > >> It didn't seem worth sitting through. > > > >I often find that the case when I start watching a movie on tv. But not > >always. I watched all of "A Few Good Men" a few nights ago and felt no > >desire to leave it at any point. Ditto that one a week or two ago about > >the man traveling on his lawnmower. > > I was channel-surfing a week or two ago and got hooked by "The Color > of Money." I don't remember how it was received when it first came > out, but I thought it was terrific. The chemistry between Newman and > Cruise really worked. They are still buds. According to Tom on some talk show... Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:53:29 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Natalie Maynor said: > They aren't wandering around loose, are they? I assumed that they were > in a fence -- but leaning against the fence in hopes of getting a sniff > of Karen and her sweaty guests. Not leaning, standing behind or throwing themselves against. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:54:44 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: How About This One? Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > a million. I think the ad I saw said $1,100,000. (The average cost of > > > a house here is $180,000, though. Or so I read somewhere not long ago.) > > > > That's *awfully* high. Are there that many million-dollar homes in > > Starkville?! > > My guess is that there's only this one million-plus house for sale right > now. The avg house price in Austin is much lower than that, and we have a number of $300,000+ houses for sale, which is why I asked. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:55:13 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Food question Marie Ascher said: > >From: Natalie Maynor > > > NM> What do you mean? That not every asparagus eater has asparagus > >urine? > > > > > > No. Since we were talking about having receptors, it would be > > > in the nose/taste buds of the beholder. > > > >So your "no" means no to my second question? Iow, all asparagus eaters > >produce asparagus urine, but some don't have the nose buds to smell it? > > No -- I don't think that's the case. I have smelled *uc*'s asparagus urine, > but I don't think I produce it. Or not like THAT anyway. WAYYYYYYY TMI! Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:56:55 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > > > If that's the case they shouldn't let their dogs wander around without > > > leashes. > > > >In their back yard?! > > Sorry, wasn't following the thread in order. I thought the problem was that > you thought they might attack, not just that they were barking, but on the > other side of a fence. I live in a no-fence kind of neighborhood. The fence is not that sturdy. But no, they can't really get me. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:14:57 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Gleason Doris Markland said: > > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > > Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as > > > Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an > > > Emmy. > > > > Many times while watching Raymond I've thought he looked like Gleason. > I > > am a Jackie Gleason 2. > > > > alyce > > He is much bigger than Gleason was, and I read that > to keep him in perspective they made the door frames > on the set larger than usual, and made oversized > cigarettes so his hands wouldn't look so big, etc. I remember Gleason being heavier. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:26:08 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs > > started watching Chocolat on Starz the other night because I wanted to > > knit. After an hour of a fairly good movie I couldn't sit still anymore > > and came back to Scrabble and email. > >Your loss. --Karen Not yet a permanent loss. I might find when it is on again and watch the second half. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:27:04 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Gleason > > of a Gleason fan, but what I saw of the show last night looked like it > > was very well done. > >Did he gain weight for this, or is it all artificial? >Karen I read that it was artificial. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:29:42 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Gleason Doris, then Karen, > > He is much bigger than Gleason was, and I read that > > to keep him in perspective they made the door frames > > on the set larger than usual, and made oversized > > cigarettes so his hands wouldn't look so big, etc. > >I remember Gleason being heavier. From AP: Although a big man who claims he's only "a burrito away" from being chubby, Garrett wore a bodysuit to depict Gleason's expansive girth. Another challenge was Garrett's 6-foot-8-inch height. Gleason was a squat 5-foot-10. "We knew we had to take care of what I call 'the giant factor,' " Garrett says, laughing. If Kramden were to tower over wife Alice as he waves his fist in one of those classic "One of these days" routines, Garrett felt he'd seem "like a bully" to today's audiences. "It was borderline funny when he did it. ... It would never fly today." To level the playing field, fellow cast members wore 7-inch boots, doorways were 8 feet high, furniture was built up, some actors stood on boxes, and specially rolled giant cigarettes were used to make Garrett's huge hands seem smaller. Pete -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:36:27 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs bonniev said: > > > started watching Chocolat on Starz the other night because I wanted to > > > knit. After an hour of a fairly good movie I couldn't sit still anymore > > > and came back to Scrabble and email. > > > >Your loss. --Karen > > Not yet a permanent loss. I might find when it is on again and watch the > second half. I've seen it three times--I thought it was a great movie, and I loved Johnny Depp. And the ending. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:37:06 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Gleason bonniev said: > > > of a Gleason fan, but what I saw of the show last night looked like it > > > was very well done. > > > >Did he gain weight for this, or is it all artificial? > >Karen > > I read that it was artificial. They did an excellent job. Hm, I guess I don't need to run right out and water my plants. It's raining, yay! Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:47:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Signs 10/13/2002, 2:09 PM, Alan Wild wrote: AW> ----- Original Message ----- AW> From: "Doris Markland" >> Nor do I care to ever see a Mel Gibson >> movie again, because if he okayed this >> script he has lost it. >> >> - D. M. AW> I heard Band of Brothers was excellent. What does that have to do with Mel? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:55:04 -0400 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Subject: Watched Prince of Tides We enjoyed watching the movie Prince of Tides. Nick Nolte acted pretty well. I don't love Striesand (sp maybe). alec ------- Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:54:48 -0400 From: Alan Wild Subject: Re: Signs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" > 10/13/2002, 2:09 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> ----- Original Message ----- > AW> From: "Doris Markland" > >> Nor do I care to ever see a Mel Gibson > >> movie again, because if he okayed this > >> script he has lost it. > >> > >> - D. M. > > AW> I heard Band of Brothers was excellent. > > What does that have to do with Mel? > -- gee... I thought he was in it, but I guess I'm wrong again. Isn't there a recent WWII movie that he's in? 'Alan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:58:22 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Gleason Karen Kay wrote: > I remember Gleason being heavier. He kept three complete (and expensive) wardrobes in fat, thin, and in-between sizes. He would get too fat, then diet, get thin, get fat again. Not a healthy thing. And he died. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:53:42 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Dan Lester said: > 10/13/2002, 2:09 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > AW> ----- Original Message ----- > AW> From: "Doris Markland" > >> Nor do I care to ever see a Mel Gibson > >> movie again, because if he okayed this > >> script he has lost it. > >> > >> - D. M. > > AW> I heard Band of Brothers was excellent. > > What does that have to do with Mel? And why hasn't Alan seen it! It's one of the best things I've ever seen. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:14:08 -0400 From: Alan Wild Subject: Re: Signs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" > Dan Lester said: > > 10/13/2002, 2:09 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > > > AW> ----- Original Message ----- > > AW> From: "Doris Markland" > > >> Nor do I care to ever see a Mel Gibson > > >> movie again, because if he okayed this > > >> script he has lost it. > > >> > > >> - D. M. > > > > AW> I heard Band of Brothers was excellent. > > > > What does that have to do with Mel? > > And why hasn't Alan seen it! It's one of the best things I've ever seen. > > Karen > doing my part to keep Austin weird I heard it'll be released 8 November - 'can't wait. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:06:31 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Alan Wild said: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Lester" > > 10/13/2002, 2:09 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > > > AW> ----- Original Message ----- > > AW> From: "Doris Markland" > > >> Nor do I care to ever see a Mel Gibson > > >> movie again, because if he okayed this > > >> script he has lost it. > > >> > > >> - D. M. > > > > AW> I heard Band of Brothers was excellent. > > > > What does that have to do with Mel? > > -- > > gee... I thought he was in it, but I guess I'm wrong again. Isn't there a > recent WWII movie that he's in? Yes. But I can't remember the name. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:07:36 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Gleason alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I remember Gleason being heavier. > > He kept three complete (and expensive) wardrobes in fat, thin, and > in-between sizes. He would get too fat, then diet, get thin, get fat > again. Not a healthy thing. And he died. Now that you mention it, I remember hearing about the three wardrobes thing. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:24:34 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Square Footage On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 08:45:32PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > > http://www.looknofurther.net/311bismark.html > > > > > > I like it a lot. > > > > Really? I don't dislike it as much as that last one, but I like the > > cute little cottage better. This one looks like a gazillion other > > newish houses. > > And look at that side with not a single window on it. I hate houses > without enough windows. It sucks 100%, cancel all plans for it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:24:55 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Square Footage On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 08:49:28PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>>>http://www.looknofurther.net/311bismark.html > >>>> > >>>I like it a lot. > >>> > >>Really? I don't dislike it as much as that last one, but I like the > >>cute little cottage better. This one looks like a gazillion other > >>newish houses. > >> > > > >And look at that side with not a single window on it. I hate houses > >without enough windows. > > > They're all ugly. ARE YOU CUTE?!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:30:33 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor 10/13/2002, 9:07 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >> Has anyone take the Johnson O'Connor aptitude tests? I am planning to do >> that, probably in Jan. There's an office in Atlanta, and I'll be there for >> conferences. (This is in connection with post-retirement plans.) ac> What? To decide what you're good at so you can do it in your dotage? My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd be good at being a sex worker? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:22:11 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Alan Wild said: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Kay" > > Dan Lester said: > > > 10/13/2002, 2:09 PM, Alan Wild wrote: > > > > > > AW> ----- Original Message ----- > > > AW> From: "Doris Markland" > > > >> Nor do I care to ever see a Mel Gibson > > > >> movie again, because if he okayed this > > > >> script he has lost it. > > > >> > > > >> - D. M. > > > > > > AW> I heard Band of Brothers was excellent. > > > > > > What does that have to do with Mel? > > > > And why hasn't Alan seen it! It's one of the best things I've ever seen. > > > > Karen > > doing my part to keep Austin weird > > I heard it'll be released 8 November - 'can't wait. Huh? It came out last year. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:32:03 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Harry Potter & Christians Hey, why the hell not? "The Gospel According to (whatever)" has been a pretty popular theme over the years. Parallels between any two pieces of literature are pretty easy to find if you point out enough small details and ignore enough contradictory evidence. If she can make a buck by grabbing Harry Potter's coattails, I say "go for it." BrP > Oh, please... > > > Ex-youth minister connects dots between ‘Potter’ books, Bible > Saturday, October 12, 2002 > By DAVID LEWELLEN Repository staff writer > http://www.cantonrep.com/cantonrep01/menus.php?ID=66634&r=0&Category=4 > > Connie Neal’s new book is only partly meant to convince Christians to > accept > Harry Potter. She also wants Harry Potter fans to accept Christ. > -- > alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:35:54 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... leave them alone and they'll come home... This happened to me a few times. They always reappeared after a few days or a few weeks. BrP > Disappearing mailboxes in Netscape? I just rebooted, and now Netscape > seems to have misplaced all my accounts. > > Is there a way to solve this? > > Karen > "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to > court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach Paul R. Barfoot Special Collections Syracuse University Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:40:16 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Food question 10/14/2002, 8:19 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> NM> What do you mean? That not every asparagus eater has asparagus urine? >> >> No. Since we were talking about having receptors, it would be >> in the nose/taste buds of the beholder. NM> So your "no" means no to my second question? Iow, all asparagus eaters NM> produce asparagus urine, but some don't have the nose buds to smell it? Yes, only some can smell asparagus urine. I've heard that some don't produce it, but have also heard that all produce it. So don't know the definitive answer on that. I'm sure some wordsler must, though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:41:51 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Suppose some ch*k (could be as young as 30) says a house is "pretty". What can you deduce about the house? Answer: It's a rectangular white wooden box with sloping roof and a porch. Please. Do not argue. There are absolutely no exceptions to this rule. Furthermore: the porch roof is very probably propped with too-thin columns, and the "other" color is HIGHLY likely a kind of blue which could be described as "doctor blue". Note, not cerulean, not cobalt, not azure, not KLM Royal Dutch, just a lot lamer. The color of a standard Windows desktop (and one admires the intelligence of the Microsoft staff member who thought of it). Such a house will be vociferously declared as extremely good-looking. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:32:05 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor Dan Lester said: > 10/13/2002, 9:07 PM, alyce cresap wrote: > > ac> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> > >> Has anyone take the Johnson O'Connor aptitude tests? I am planning to do > >> that, probably in Jan. There's an office in Atlanta, and I'll be there for > >> conferences. (This is in connection with post-retirement plans.) > > ac> What? To decide what you're good at so you can do it in your dotage? > > My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or > for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd > be good at being a sex worker? Do they ever show that? Or are you just going by the name of the test? Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:43:05 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Word question 10/14/2002, 8:21 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> NM> In French?? Why would "email" be a word in French? "Mail" isn't. >> >> NOTE BELOW. First the term derived from French, if not still French. NM> So it really is related to enamel? From my limited understanding of the techniques in the quoted passages from OED, yes. Whether it is the word a French person would use today to describe putting that type of paint on his bathroom wall, I don't know. dan -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:43:48 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Transitions 10/14/2002, 8:29 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> rotorooter would certainly be one. NM> I think it was a medical term of some kind. Sounds like a medical term to me. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:44:44 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Yesteryear 10/14/2002, 8:35 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> At 07:59 AM 10/14/2002 -0600, dan wrote: >>10/12/2002, 6:04 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>NM> "Intersanctum" >> >> Trust this has been corrected by now? cwv> No. So I see. That was a very surprising "wordo" from Dr. Maynor. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:37:05 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Harry Potter & Christians Paul R. Barfoot said: > Hey, why the hell not? "The Gospel According to (whatever)" has been a pretty > popular theme over the years. Parallels between any two pieces of literature are > pretty easy to find if you point out enough small details and ignore enough > contradictory evidence. If she can make a buck by grabbing Harry Potter's coattails, > I say "go for it." You sound like you're jealous that you didn't think of it first!:) Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:48:30 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:20:44AM -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > >From: Tushar Samant > >Where can I buy some kick-ass cold-weather clothes in > >New York, perhaps even including a jacket but certainly > >something sweater-ish? > > > >Don't say "mail order", let mne just support the damn > >economy. Thanks ... > > Hm...I'm not sure I know what kick-ass cold-weather clothes are exactly. > First things that come to mind are Eastern Mountain Sports downtown at > Broadway (and Mercer?) or Paragon Sports at 18th and Broadway. If you aren't > looking for sporty stuff like that, uh, I don't know, go across the street > to BLOOMINGDALE'S?! Oops, I forgot, I apologize. Bloomingdales has men's clothes? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:50:27 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Word question On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:45:15AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 10/11/2002, 4:13 PM, Tushar Samant wrote: > > TS> On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 12:18:00PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > >> I regularly use them all as one word: email, website, printout (though > >> use that much less frequently these days), online, homepage, et.al. > >> Since you seem to concur by your comments regarding "online" that it > >> has been long enough for it to be a word, and since the others will, > >> like it or not become singleword terms eventually, why try to stop > >> the flow with your finger in the dike. > > TS> Why vote in a clearly unequal race? > > Why indeed? Just wanted a dose of common sense from a man who has seen life, that's all... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:50:40 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor 10/14/2002, 10:32 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or >> for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd >> be good at being a sex worker? KK> Do they ever show that? Or are you just going by the name of the test? Don't know if they would or not. NO, wasn't going by name of the test. Assume named after two PhD psychologists. Know that when I took tests of that sort I wasn't recommended to be a sex worker. Of course if they said you had excellent oral skills, were good with your hands, enjoyed physical activity, enjoyed being with many different people, and so forth.... -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:43:15 -0400 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: > My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or > for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd > be good at being a sex worker? LOL! Bethany -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:43:33 -0400 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >Do they ever show that? Or are you just going by the name of the test? More LOL! Bethany -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:54:55 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... How do you go on using an application which induces fear and superstition in you? Pathetic ... (In contrast, Mutant seems like eligible for freakin' canonizing ... Mutant uses a mail application which is completely predictable and has no problems.) > leave them alone and they'll come home... > > This happened to me a few times. They always reappeared after a few days > or a few weeks. > > > Disappearing mailboxes in Netscape? I just rebooted, and now Netscape > > seems to have misplaced all my accounts. > > > > Is there a way to solve this? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:54:47 -0400 From: Alan Wild Subject: Re: Signs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" > > I heard it'll be released 8 November - 'can't wait. > > Huh? It came out last year. > > Karen ... 'on VHS ;-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:00:21 +0000 From: Rashmi Murthy Subject: Re: Signs >doing my part to keep Austin weird K@R*N - don't flatter yourself. Re: Band of Brothers was on HBO, right? I don't think it was ever released on the big screen. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:07:30 -0700 From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... And if they don't, set them free! Live on the edge. Betty At 12:35 PM 10/14/2002 -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >leave them alone and they'll come home... > >This happened to me a few times. They always reappeared after a few days or a >few weeks. > >BrP > > > > > Disappearing mailboxes in Netscape? I just rebooted, and now Netscape > > seems to have misplaced all my accounts. > > > > Is there a way to solve this? > > > > Karen > > "In order for us to realize genuine happiness, we must be willing to > > court contentment every step of the way." Sarah Ban Breathnach > >Paul R. Barfoot >Special Collections >Syracuse University Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:56:18 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Alan Wild said: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Kay" > > > I heard it'll be released 8 November - 'can't wait. > > > > Huh? It came out last year. > > > > Karen > > ... 'on VHS ;-) Oh. I borrowed it. I'm surprised you don't have friends who saved it. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:09:18 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:00:21PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > K@R*N - don't flatter yourself. Wow ... why can't we get along ... it really saddens me to see K@r3n's ebullient self come under such harsh criticism. Which reminds me, I caused a stop in conversation a while ago by merely using the word "ebullient". I thought my life so far had been well spent escaping successfully from just this sort of self-censoring condition, and bam, there I am again, and it's not like it's some improve-your-word-power word either. Sad, sad, sad ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:02:03 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Rashmi Murthy said: > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > K@R*N - don't flatter yourself. Rashmi - don't insult me. > Re: Band of Brothers was on HBO, right? I don't think it was ever > released on the big screen. No, I know that. But I know several people who taped it. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:15:32 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Winter clothes Tushar Samant wrote: > > Oops, I forgot, I apologize. Bloomingdales has men's clothes? Yes, but go to Barney's. They have more, many more. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:16:56 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... Tushar Samant wrote: > > How do you go on using an application which induces fear and > superstition in you? Pathetic ... > Yes, I am pathetic. I don't know how to use anything else. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:17:50 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Signs Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > > Re: Band of Brothers was on HBO, right? I don't think it was ever > released on the big screen. That's right, but it is on DVD now. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:20:44 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone >Suppose some ch*k (could be as young as 30) says a house >is "pretty". What can you deduce about the house? > >Answer: It's a rectangular white wooden box with sloping >roof and a porch. You sound like you are getting ready to find a woman you don't like and buy her a house, thus avoiding all the other details of marriage and going straight to the crux of things. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:29:46 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:15:32PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Oops, I forgot, I apologize. Bloomingdales has men's clothes? > > Yes, but go to Barney's. They have more, many more. And flout "Marie"'s advice? I will have to ask you how current your information is! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:30:13 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:16:56PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > How do you go on using an application which induces fear and > > superstition in you? Pathetic ... > > Yes, I am pathetic. I don't know how to use anything else. Can't take any tough love can you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:31:28 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:20:44PM -0400, bonniev wrote: > >Suppose some ch*k (could be as young as 30) says a house > >is "pretty". What can you deduce about the house? > > > >Answer: It's a rectangular white wooden box with sloping > >roof and a porch. > > You sound like you are getting ready to find a woman you don't like > and buy her a house, thus avoiding all the other details of marriage > and going straight to the crux of things. You can never take the cruces out of a ex-nun ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:33:14 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Translation please. Waschmaschinenfest 40 (degree sign) heiss waschbar weich und saugfahig strapazierfahig nicht filzend nicht einlaufend ausserst ergiebig hautsympahtisch 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:33:24 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Winter clothes >From: Tushar Samant >On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:15:32PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > Oops, I forgot, I apologize. Bloomingdales has men's clothes? > > > > Yes, but go to Barney's. They have more, many more. > >And flout "Marie"'s advice? I will have to ask you how current >your information is! Barney's remains current. And expensive! I still don't have a mental picture of the kind of sweater or jacket you are looking for. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:25:09 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone bonniev said: > >Suppose some ch*k (could be as young as 30) says a house > >is "pretty". What can you deduce about the house? > > > >Answer: It's a rectangular white wooden box with sloping > >roof and a porch. > > You sound like you are getting ready to find a woman you don't like and buy > her a house, thus avoiding all the other details of marriage and going > straight to the crux of things. All the details of marriage, or divorce? Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:37:33 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone I apologize for having taken a harsh tone in response to "Bonnie"'s very helpful suggestion. Actually I too think some houses are good- looking etc. They speak to me. However, they always have some flaw; sometimes they have a stone element, sometimes they are irrectangular, and in rare cases they even have a browner theme. Thus, I (peacefully) ask Bonnie why she thinks I intend to marry some woman I don't like. Peace ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:37:05 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone > > You sound like you are getting ready to find a woman you don't like and buy > > her a house, thus avoiding all the other details of marriage and going > > straight to the crux of things. > >All the details of marriage, or divorce? >Karen Yes. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:43:13 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Winter clothes Tushar Samant wrote:> > And flout "Marie"'s advice? I will have to ask you how current > your information is! It is not this week's information, but I can tell you it is the better place for you to shop. Bloomingdale's is overpriced, imho, snobby, and the stench of perfume that you have to suffer in order to get up to the men's department will knock you out. Barney's is fragrance free. Of course, you might go to both stores, although they are at opposite ends of your area, so to speak. take a look: http://www.barneys.com alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:40:48 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Harry Potter & Christians Was it that obvious? BrP > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > Hey, why the hell not? "The Gospel According to (whatever)" has been a pretty > > popular theme over the years. Parallels between any two pieces of literature are > > pretty easy to find if you point out enough small details and ignore enough > > contradictory evidence. If she can make a buck by grabbing Harry Potter's coattails, > > I say "go for it." > > You sound like you're jealous that you didn't think of it first!:) > > Karen > doing my part to keep Austin weird Paul R. Barfoot Special Collections Syracuse University Library -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:47:14 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... Tushar Samant wrote: > > Can't take any tough love can you? I can take it, but it doesn't help me to know what to do next. Right now I am trying to figure out how to unzip a some files that are in the mail folder that just became a subfolder. I have Winzip, but never have used it and I don't understand what I am to do. I read help, but it does not explain these windows that come up about naming, renaming, don't rename, and I am afraid I'll lose them entirely. I've had this stuff since last November--I was supposed to edit it and get it printed and every once in awhile I look at the winzip matter again and give up again. Well, as I said, I am pathetic. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:45:52 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone >Thus, I (peacefully) ask Bonnie why she thinks I intend to marry some >woman I don't like. >Peace ... It's just an old joke in which some guy bemoans his latest divorce and says: "Next time I think I'll just find a woman I don't like and buy her a house." I thought maybe you were getting serious about marriage because you appear to be talking to young women about house preferences. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:48:53 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Translation please. bonniev wrote: > > Waschmaschinenfest 40 (degree sign) heiss waschbar weich und saugfahig > strapazierfahig > nicht filzend > nicht einlaufend > ausserst ergiebig > hautsympahtisch > 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid > > --bonniev 75% wool, 25% polyester Not bleached, sheep not fed anything except organic grass, yarn not made up of random strands, no knots. Something like that. slyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:48:07 -0400 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Subject: Re: Winter clothes >take a look: >http://www.barneys.com > >alyce > > > Barney's looks exspensive. Try Macy's or a similar store. I am sure Chicago has thousands of good stores. alec -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:48:38 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: my afternoon They had only thought about the sound and not the spelling until the first person to write it wrote it with an e and then they decided it looked better the other way. BrP > Why did they decide to go with the o instead of the e? To keep him from > having to go through his whole life having to spell his name for > people? I think that's probably a wise decision. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:49:31 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Winter clothes The men's department is on the lower level at Bloomingdale's. I can't really say that I recommend it -- I only brought it up because it is right across the street from your hotel. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:40:01 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Tushar Samant said: > and in rare cases they even have a browner theme. Thus, I (peacefully) I hate the brown theme of my house. (I railed about its ugliness to Ligniere, and then was reminded that Ligniere's house is deliberately brown. Oops.) Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:52:32 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Winter clothes "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > > Barney's looks exspensive. Try Macy's or a similar store. I am sure > Chicago has thousands of good stores. Barney's and Bloomingdales both are expensive. Macy's was my first suggestion the other day. If you enter on the west side right into the men's department, you can avoid the perfume at Macy's. alyce > > alec -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:55:56 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: stroganoff >From: Anne Toal >Tony Cachere's seasoning What's that? Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:58:29 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Karen Kay wrote: > I hate the brown theme of my house. (I railed about its ugliness to > Ligniere, and then was reminded that Ligniere's house is deliberately > brown. Oops.) Is that why he was mad at you? Is he still mad? alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:58:07 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Signs >From: Doris Markland >I figured I could go to the 12:45 matinee >and call popcorn my lunch and escape Have any of you ever had Moose Munch from Harry & David? I went to an H&D outlet yesterday and bought a bag. I think it's the best thing I've ever eaten in the sweet category. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:05:23 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:45:52PM -0400, bonniev wrote: > >Thus, I (peacefully) ask Bonnie why she thinks I intend to marry some > >woman I don't like. > >Peace ... > > It's just an old joke in which some guy bemoans his latest divorce and > says: "Next time I think I'll just find a woman I don't like and buy her a > house." This is what I get for not LOVING Roz Chast cartoons--I miss out on the modern trends in humor. > I thought maybe you were getting serious about marriage because you appear > to be talking to young women about house preferences. I am not talking to anybody about house preferences. I just posted an old theory of mine because a certain thread reminded me. Anyway, let's analyze the joke even further ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:05:18 +0000 From: Rashmi Murthy Subject: Re: Signs > > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > > K@R*N - don't flatter yourself. >Wow ... why can't we get along ... it really saddens me to >see K@r3n's ebullient self come under such harsh criticism. mea culpa. I can't resist mocking those who call themselves weird (*). Especially when it's proclaimed ten times in the space of a minute. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:07:14 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Signs Rshmi, you're weird. BrP > > mea culpa. I can't resist mocking those who call themselves > weird (*). Especially when it's proclaimed ten times in the > space of a minute. > > -rashmi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:08:31 +0000 From: Rashmi Murthy Subject: Re: Signs >Rashmi - don't insult me. ok. >Karen >doing my part to keep Austin weird Name three. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:11:26 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone 10/14/2002, 11:45 AM, bonniev wrote: >>Thus, I (peacefully) ask Bonnie why she thinks I intend to marry some >>woman I don't like. >>Peace ... b> It's just an old joke in which some guy bemoans his latest divorce and b> says: "Next time I think I'll just find a woman I don't like and buy her a b> house." Patrick McManus. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:11:31 -0400 From: Alan Wild Subject: Re: Translation please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonniev" Subject: Translation please. > Waschmaschinenfest 40 (degree sign) heiss waschbar weich und saugfahig > strapazierfahig > nicht filzend > nicht einlaufend > ausserst ergiebig > hautsympahtisch > 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid > > --bonniev http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn Says: "Washing machine celebration 40 (degree sign) hot washable softly and saugfahig strapazierfahig not felting not incoming outer only productively hautsympahtisch 75%Schurwolle 25% PP " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:13:20 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Signs 10/14/2002, 11:58 AM, Marie Ascher wrote: MA> Have any of you ever had Moose Munch from Harry & David? I went to an H&D MA> outlet yesterday and bought a bag. I think it's the best thing I've ever MA> eaten in the sweet category. Yes. Unfortunately, we have a H&D in our outlet mall, about a mile from home. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:02:19 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: stroganoff Marie Ascher said: > >From: Anne Toal > >Tony Cachere's seasoning > > What's that? You can buy it in the store. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:03:42 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I hate the brown theme of my house. (I railed about its ugliness to > > Ligniere, and then was reminded that Ligniere's house is deliberately > > brown. Oops.) > > Is that why he was mad at you? No, that was even stupider. > Is he still mad? Nope. I'm making him a pie, so he wants to be on my good side... Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:16:20 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:05:18PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > > >> K@R*N - don't flatter yourself. > > >Wow ... why can't we get along ... it really saddens me to > >see K@r3n's ebullient self come under such harsh criticism. > > mea culpa. I can't resist mocking those who call themselves > weird (*). Especially when it's proclaimed ten times in the > space of a minute. No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately for indulging in just this sort of mocking and was in the mood for getting along. I forgot that you can't get kicked off here ... mock on Rashmeeber ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:28:42 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Far be it from me to analyze at a distance, but what the hell's with this "Ligniere"? Strikes me as an aging spoiled child and very probably a punk ass. A smartass pretty boy can't indefinitely keep appealing to the mothering instinct, it just doesn't work... Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another man? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:29:49 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:33:24PM -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > >From: Tushar Samant > >On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:15:32PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > >> Tushar Samant wrote: > >> > >> > Oops, I forgot, I apologize. Bloomingdales has men's clothes? > >> > >> Yes, but go to Barney's. They have more, many more. > > > >And flout "Marie"'s advice? I will have to ask you how current > >your information is! > > Barney's remains current. And expensive! I still don't have a mental picture > of the kind of sweater or jacket you are looking for. We'll talk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:32:59 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:48:07PM -0400, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Barney's looks exspensive. Try Macy's or a similar store. I am sure > Chicago has thousands of good stores. Alec, I want to *support the economy* ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:34:27 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Winter clothes > > I want to *support the economy* ... Your sense of patriotism puts me to shame. BrP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:28:13 -0700 From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Signs Tushar Samant writes, >No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately >for indulging in just this sort of mocking and was in the mood >for getting along. I forgot that you can't get kicked off here Whew! I thought you were losing your mocktivity. > Dude! You need a "+" in there: Pete -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:28:54 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Yesteryear At 10:44 AM 10/14/2002 -0600, dan wrote: >10/14/2002, 8:35 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >cwv> At 07:59 AM 10/14/2002 -0600, dan wrote: > >>10/12/2002, 6:04 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> > >>NM> "Intersanctum" > >> > >> Trust this has been corrected by now? > >cwv> No. > > So I see. That was a very surprising "wordo" from Dr. Maynor. Perhaps she was just trying to be twee. cwv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:40:38 +0200 From: steph Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:08:31PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: = >Rashmi - don't insult me. = = ok. = = >Karen = >doing my part to keep Austin weird = = Name three. = before breakfast -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:43:00 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:34:27PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > I want to *support the economy* ... > > Your sense of patriotism puts me to shame. It's not that hard to be better than a damn Canadian ... "PAUL" ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:44:35 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Winter clothes > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:34:27PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > > I want to *support the economy* ... > > > > Your sense of patriotism puts me to shame. > > It's not that hard to be better than a damn Canadian ... "PAUL" ... Oh good. I should be outstanding once I finally get there then. BrP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:48:19 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:28:13AM -0700, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Tushar Samant writes, > > >No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately > >for indulging in just this sort of mocking and was in the mood > >for getting along. I forgot that you can't get kicked off here > > Whew! I thought you were losing your mocktivity. A very excellent coinage, I'd say almost blog-level ... > > > > Dude! You need a "+" in there: > > Thanks for this optimization ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:49:46 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:44:35PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:34:27PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > > > I want to *support the economy* ... > > > > > > Your sense of patriotism puts me to shame. > > > > It's not that hard to be better than a damn Canadian ... "PAUL" ... > > Oh good. I should be outstanding once I finally get there then. You aren't Canadian? Alas, I have wasted bandwidth. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:53:10 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Signs Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Have any of you ever had Moose Munch from Harry & David? I went to an H&D > outlet yesterday and bought a bag. Yes, I have an unopened bag that was part of a stack of stuff a friend sent me for my birthday. There was a pyramid of five fancy boxes and one had Moose Munch in it. I am not an experimenter with candy, didn't know what it was, and left it alone. Guess I should try it? There are three other candy things I didn't eat either. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:53:17 -0400 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Subject: Re: stroganoff >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:56 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: stroganoff > > >>From: Anne Toal >>Tony Cachere's seasoning > >What's that? > >Marie > lounge_ascher@hotmail.com > A quick 3 second web search leads us to http://www.cajunspice.com alec -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:55:27 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Winter clothes > > You aren't Canadian? Alas, I have wasted bandwidth. Don't feel bad, I've even fooled a few Canadians. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:02:10 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone 10/14/2002, 12:28 PM, Tushar Samant wrote: TS> Far be it from me to analyze at a distance, but what the hell's TS> with this "Ligniere"? Strikes me as an aging spoiled child and TS> very probably a punk ass. A smartass pretty boy can't indefinitely TS> keep appealing to the mothering instinct, it just doesn't work... TS> Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another TS> man? Or another woman? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:02:35 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Yesteryear 10/14/2002, 12:28 PM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> So I see. That was a very surprising "wordo" from Dr. Maynor. cwv> Perhaps she was just trying to be twee. Perhaps, but not likely. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:04:24 -0600 From: Dan Lester Subject: Re: Winter clothes 10/14/2002, 12:55 PM, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >> You aren't Canadian? Alas, I have wasted bandwidth. PRB> Don't feel bad, I've even fooled a few Canadians. And it isn't the first time he's wasted bandwidth. With that crap he clogged my T3. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:05:19 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:47:14PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Can't take any tough love can you? > > I can take it, but it doesn't help me to know what to do next. This is "yabbut"-ing which puts all previous "yabbut"s to shame. > Right now I am trying to figure out how to unzip a some files that are in > the mail folder that just became a subfolder. I have Winzip, but never > have used it and I don't understand what I am to do. I read help, but it > does not explain these windows that come up about naming, renaming, don't > rename, and I am afraid I'll lose them entirely. I've had this stuff since > last November--I was supposed to edit it and get it printed and every once > in awhile I look at the winzip matter again and give up again. Well, as I > said, I am pathetic. I guess it doesn't help to say that I have used winzip and just done "the obvious thing" and it worked. However, let me at least mention two things: 1 I always make a working copy of any file I want to work on. This I achieve perhaps not cleverly but reliably by: Right-clicking on the zip file, and scrolling down the popped-up menu to click on "copy". Moving to a "work" folder, let's say c:/temp, which I do by clicking "My Computer" etc and navigating. Creating a subfolder in there, and moving to it. (Seems like we are forgetting where we came from, but that's irrelevant. It's stored in the mouse.) Now, right-clicking anywhere in the folder area and chooing "paste" this time. This operation makes a copy of the file. You can treat this one as the work file. 2 Now WinZip: double-clicking on the zip file (working copy) will bring up an elaborate listing of everything in the archive. Who cares. Click on "extract", the top middle button. Now like most Windows applications this is one dumb-assed app, so it will probably ask you where you want to extract the stuff. Of course, you created a work folder, so it should know, but gnash your teeth and move to c:/temp/. This way, you get a copy of the zip file and the unpacked archive. No clashes with any previous work. Pick the ones you want, place them wherever and delete the work folder entirely. Nothing is gained by being cleverer than this. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:06:26 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:55:27PM -0400, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > You aren't Canadian? Alas, I have wasted bandwidth. > > Don't feel bad, I've even fooled a few Canadians. What's so hard about that? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:08:17 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:04:24PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 10/14/2002, 12:55 PM, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > >> You aren't Canadian? Alas, I have wasted bandwidth. > > > PRB> Don't feel bad, I've even fooled a few Canadians. > > And it isn't the first time he's wasted bandwidth. With that > crap he clogged my T3. I didn't know you were so sensitive about "IDAHO" jokes. It was maybe 4 more blank lines than necessary. Man. Talk about potato chip on shoulder. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:09:38 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:02:10PM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > 10/14/2002, 12:28 PM, Tushar Samant wrote: > > TS> Far be it from me to analyze at a distance, but what the hell's > TS> with this "Ligniere"? Strikes me as an aging spoiled child and > TS> very probably a punk ass. A smartass pretty boy can't indefinitely > TS> keep appealing to the mothering instinct, it just doesn't work... > > TS> Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another > TS> man? > > Or another woman? This inane followup caused my account to exceed its T3 quota. Please, with moderation! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:14:42 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Signs >No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately >for indulging in just this sort of mocking... An honest question: Does it distress you when this sort of thing happens to you, or do you accept it as part of being the kind of person you are? Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:20:09 -0400 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor I was first introduced to J&O as I was about to graduate from law school, and I considered aptitude testing then. But shortly I decided to remain an academic for a while and do consulting, so I saw no need. Very recently, a friend of mine who had been a very successful medical dr. for many years found himself completely burned out as a physician. He took the aptitude tests and is now taking B.A. coursework at UT. It seems he will be best/happiest as a writer. Interestingly, his English prof. thought his very first paper for her should be published. We don't know yet whether he will pursue fiction or non-fiction writing - but he seems to be well on his way to being a much happier person. I would like to pursue an activity in retirement from academic life that would suit me as exactly as possible - hence the interest in J&O. I know that I have very different skills and interests from those I had when I started academic life - or when I graduated from law school. Bethany -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:19:55 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... Tushar Samant wrote: > let me at least mention two things: Thank you for mentioning these things. I will print them out and try to follow along. But nt today, because my printer died on Saturday and I had to buy a new one, which prolly won't get here until Wednesday. I did not want to make a expenditure of this size at this time. It came as a blow. The one that died saw a lot of work. I guess I got it in 1995 or 1996 and I use it pretty heavily. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:21:49 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:43:13PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote:> > > And flout "Marie"'s advice? I will have to ask you how current > > your information is! > > It is not this week's information, but I can tell you it is the better > place for you to shop. Bloomingdale's is overpriced, imho, snobby, and > the stench of perfume that you have to suffer in order to get up to the > men's department will knock you out. Barney's is fragrance free. > Of course, you might go to both stores, although they are at opposite > ends of your area, so to speak. > > take a look: > http://www.barneys.com Yeah, Marie! Alyce understands that I am a Serious Young Man. Although this site pretty much crashed my machine, I can see what it's about. Apart from being expensive, that is. But then, what a lot of people, including Alec, do not realize is that visiting another town is perhaps the only psychologically credible excuse for buying expensive crap--at least for certain mentalities. Hence, buying old-fart sartorial stuff is suddenly made plausible. By the way I would like to state here that I'm not gay [TM]. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:29:29 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Winter clothes Tushar Samant wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:43:13PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > > Tushar Samant wrote:> > > > And flout "Marie"'s advice? I will have to ask you how current > > > your information is! > > > > It is not this week's information, but I can tell you it is the better > > place for you to shop. Bloomingdale's is overpriced, imho, snobby, and > > the stench of perfume that you have to suffer in order to get up to the > > men's department will knock you out. Barney's is fragrance free. > > Of course, you might go to both stores, although they are at opposite > > ends of your area, so to speak. > > > > take a look: > > http://www.barneys.com > > Yeah, Marie! > > Alyce understands that I am a Serious Young Man. Absolutely. > Although this > site pretty much crashed my machine, It is an unusual site. I've never seen one before that works like that. In fact, at first I thought it was not working, but then I grasped the subtlety. It was a proud moment for me when it loaded, because ususlly I need a plug in of some sort, but I just happen to have downloaded Flash last week. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:57:02 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: stroganoff >From: Karen Kay >Marie Ascher said: > > >From: Anne Toal > > >Tony Cachere's seasoning > > > > What's that? > >You can buy it in the store. Thanks (NOT) for your helpful answer. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:59:15 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Signs >From: alyce cresap >had Moose Munch in it. I am not an experimenter with candy, didn't know >what it was, and left it alone. Guess I should try it? There are three >other candy things I didn't eat either. Try it or send it to Bonnie right away! Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:03:42 +0200 From: steph Subject: Re: Translation please. On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:33:14PM -0400, bonniev wrote: = Waschmaschinenfest 40 (degree sign) heiss waschbar weich und saugfahig = strapazierfahig = nicht filzend = nicht einlaufend = ausserst ergiebig = hautsympahtisch = 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid = = --bonniev wash at 40 degrees (most everything I wash is at 40 degrees) strain something non felting gobbeldygook ironable! 75% wool 25%polyamid -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:58:06 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: stroganoff Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > >Marie Ascher said: > > > >From: Anne Toal > > > >Tony Cachere's seasoning > > > > > > What's that? > > > >You can buy it in the store. > > Thanks (NOT) for your helpful answer. Sorry, I have to run and cook for Nameless. I don't know what's in it. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:11:47 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >>From: alyce cresap >>had Moose Munch in it. I am not an experimenter with candy, didn't know >>what it was, and left it alone. Guess I should try it? There are three >>other candy things I didn't eat either. > >Try it or send it to Bonnie right away! >Marie Why I am I being nominated for such good luck? Am I a known "experimenter with candy"? Speaking of which, I just watched the second hour of Chocolat. It was very good. This movie is and ode to excess: salvation by chocolate. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:15:08 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Signs >From: bonniev >Why I am I being nominated for such good luck? Am I a known "experimenter >with candy"? Because I bought two bags and almost ate (with help) a whole one last night. I thought, "I should send the second bag to Bonnie -- she knitted me these beautiful socks." Yet, I can't imagine parting with this bag. I had thought I'll send you some after my next visit to Woodbury Commons (the outlet mall) -- but if Alyce has some sitting around... Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:15:23 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Translation please. >= Waschmaschinenfest 40 (degree sign) heiss waschbar weich und saugfahig >= strapazierfahig >= nicht filzend >= nicht einlaufend >= ausserst ergiebig >= hautsympahtisch >= 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid >wash at 40 degrees (most everything I wash is at 40 degrees) >strain something >non felting >gobbeldygook >ironable! >75% wool 25%polyamid Thank you! Is Schurwolle a certain kind of wool? Sheep's wool? Would washing in 40 degrees mean washing in warm water? --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:17:25 EDT From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Subject: Re: Translation please. a little warmer than body temp > > Thank you! Is Schurwolle a certain kind of wool? Sheep's wool? Would > washing in 40 degrees mean washing in warm water? > > > --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:22:23 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >Because I bought two bags and almost ate (with help) a whole one last night. >I thought, "I should send the second bag to Bonnie -- she knitted me these >beautiful socks." Yet, I can't imagine parting with this bag. --Marie You selfish oinker!!! You promised me caramels a long time ago. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:34:18 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 03:29:29PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > > > Alyce understands that I am a Serious Young Man. > > Absolutely. Haa ha ha ha ... you know it was Jinny Jones who coined the phrase, when we met up at the TIP TOP TAP. She introduces me to all the puzzle-solving lamers as her friend, Tushar, who is a "serious young man". The way she said it cracked me up. Or maybe it's just one of those inherently humorous terms. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:49:40 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 18:05:52 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: >I use it as little as possible. Please endeavor to be a little less third-world in your living conditions. The image of a sweating, menustrating you has given me the fan-tods. -aht -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:50:02 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Signs >From: bonniev >You selfish oinker!!! You promised me caramels a long time ago. I never found those Starbucks caramels. Then there were the pralines from Dallas, that they don't ship during the summer. So now I'm into the Moose Munch. Okay, you want them? Do you prefer milk chocolate or dark chocolate? The ones I'm eating are dark, the ones left are milk. I have to go back to Woodbury Commons anyway. I bought two (decidedly whorish) shirts from XOXO. And the cashier forgot to remove the plastic sensors. Apparently they are full of ink and will destroy the clothes if I attempt to remove them. Unless someone knows a better way... Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:51:29 -0400 From: Anne Toal Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:23:32 -0400, alyce cresap wrote: >We need Rita's knowledge on this. She knows more about dogs than I. Rita posts more about dogs than you do. But as for dog facts, I would not go to Rita for "knowledge." -aht -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:05:13 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >I never found those Starbucks caramels. Then there were the pralines from >Dallas, that they don't ship during the summer. So now I'm into the Moose >Munch. Okay, you want them? Do you prefer milk chocolate or dark chocolate? >The ones I'm eating are dark, the ones left are milk. --Marie I prefer dark chocolate. Cough them up!! --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:03:15 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Anne Toal said: > On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 18:05:52 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > >I use it as little as possible. > > Please endeavor to be a little less third-world in your living conditions. > The image of a sweating, menustrating you has given me the fan-tods. It's 59 degrees--I ain't sweating now. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:04:46 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs bonniev said: > Speaking of which, I just watched the second hour of Chocolat. It was very > good. This movie is and ode to excess: salvation by chocolate. Hm. I don't quite remember it that way... Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:05:30 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Translation please. Paul R. Barfoot said: > a little warmer than body temp I remember it being 40 degrees when I lived in Kyoto and I thought I was going to expire. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:17:54 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs > >This movie is and ode to excess: salvation by chocolate. > >Hm. I don't quite remember it that way... >Karen How could you not?! Remember the scene at Judi Dench's birthday party where everyone is converted to be accepting of one another once they get a taste of the chocolate? Long, lingering shots of people tasting and loving chocolate. Then instant brotherhood. Remember the mayor lolling in the window of the store? One lick of his lower lip and he plunges in. Then he loves everyone and does a complete turnaround. What do you see as the theme of the movie? --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:09:44 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Rashmi Murthy said: > >Rashmi - don't insult me. > > ok. > > >Karen > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > Name three. 1) I go to Blues on the Green. 2) I go to Free Francophone Films. 3) I exist in Austin. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:13:35 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Tushar Samant said: > Far be it from me to analyze at a distance, but what the hell's > with this "Ligniere"? Strikes me as an aging spoiled child and > very probably a punk ass. Why do you think he's spoiled? And a punk ass? I think that some people might think he's a punk ass, but I can't imagine anyone thinking he's spoiled. > A smartass pretty boy can't indefinitely keep appealing to the > mothering instinct, it just doesn't work... It's not my mothering instinct he appeals to. > Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another > man? Absolutely. Most of his friends are men, I think. He with men. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:14:57 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Dan Lester said: > TS> Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another > TS> man? > > Or another woman? Yes; he is extremely charming and intelligent. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:20:10 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs bonniev said: > > >This movie is and ode to excess: salvation by chocolate. > > > >Hm. I don't quite remember it that way... > >Karen > > How could you not?! Remember the scene at Judi Dench's birthday party > where everyone is converted to be accepting of one another once they get a > taste of the chocolate? Long, lingering shots of people tasting and loving > chocolate. Then instant brotherhood. Remember the mayor lolling in the > window of the store? One lick of his lower lip and he plunges in. Then he > loves everyone and does a complete turnaround. That's true. > What do you see as the theme of the movie? It was long ago, I don't remember much. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:24:18 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Tushar Samant said: > Wow ... why can't we get along ... it really saddens me to > see K@r3n's ebullient self come under such harsh criticism. I am framing this. > Which reminds me, I caused a stop in conversation a while > ago by merely using the word "ebullient". I thought my life > so far had been well spent escaping successfully from just > this sort of self-censoring condition, and bam, there I am > again, and it's not like it's some improve-your-word-power > word either. Sad, sad, sad ... I agree. Karen spending the evening with a man who can say 'crepuscular' with a straight face -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:24:57 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Translation please. bonniev said: > Waschmaschinenfest 40 (degree sign) heiss waschbar weich und saugfahig > strapazierfahig > nicht filzend > nicht einlaufend > ausserst ergiebig > hautsympahtisch > 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid Are you making my socks with German wool. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:25:24 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Karen Kay said: > Rashmi Murthy said: > > >Rashmi - don't insult me. > > > > ok. > > > > >Karen > > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > > > Name three. > > 1) I go to Blues on the Green. > 2) I go to Free Francophone Films. > 3) I exist in Austin. 4) I wear tie-dyed socks. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:35:32 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Signs >From: bonniev >>Munch. Okay, you want them? Do you prefer milk chocolate or dark >>chocolate? >>The ones I'm eating are dark, the ones left are milk. --Marie > >I prefer dark chocolate. Cough them up!! Do you mean that literally? Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:32:48 -0700 From: S Hess Subject: Re: Gleason > > Any of you see Brad Garrett tonight as > Jackie Gleason. Wow! I smell an > Emmy. > > - D. M. Damn. I missed it. I indulged in GODFATHER II on Bravo. I'd never seen it before. I especially had wanted to catch the Gleason show as I've just watched THE HUSTLER and was caught offguard by Gleason's dynamic performance. The few glimpses I had of Brad Garrett didn't remind me *physically* of Gleason, though. Sandra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:34:49 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs steph said: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:08:31PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > = >Rashmi - don't insult me. > = > = ok. > = > = >Karen > = >doing my part to keep Austin weird > = > = Name three. > = > > before breakfast Oh, dear. That's harder. 1) I sleep on the floor 2) I do Pilates in the morning 3) I have a night light Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:36:48 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs Marie Ascher said: > >From: bonniev > >>Munch. Okay, you want them? Do you prefer milk chocolate or dark > >>chocolate? > >>The ones I'm eating are dark, the ones left are milk. --Marie > > > >I prefer dark chocolate. Cough them up!! > > Do you mean that literally? This is NOT a nice visual! Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:47:59 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs > > What do you see as the theme of the movie? > >It was long ago, I don't remember much. >Karen You said you saw it three times??!! --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:48:37 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Translation please. > > 75%Schurwolle 25% Polyamid > >Are you making my socks with German wool. >Karen Yes. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:49:46 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >>I prefer dark chocolate. Cough them up!! > >Do you mean that literally? >Marie Well, no. I can wait for the next trip to the store. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:52:08 -0400 From: Marie Ascher Subject: Re: Signs >From: bonniev >>>I prefer dark chocolate. Cough them up!! >> >>Do you mean that literally? >>Marie > >Well, no. I can wait for the next trip to the store. I *promise* this time! Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:42:44 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Patricia Barber? Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:02:49 -0500 From: Doris Markland Subject: Re: Gleason > > Damn. I missed it. I indulged in GODFATHER II on Bravo. I'd never seen it > before. I especially had wanted to catch the Gleason show as I've just > watched THE HUSTLER and was caught offguard by Gleason's dynamic > performance. The few glimpses I had of Brad Garrett didn't remind me > *physically* of Gleason, though. > > Sandra He was unbelievable. He actually Gleason. - D. M. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:51:59 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs bonniev said: > > > What do you see as the theme of the movie? > > > >It was long ago, I don't remember much. > >Karen > > You said you saw it three times??!! Maybe I just don't want to talk about it?! Here's the blurb for the movie I'm seeing tonight: "10/14 LES RIVIERES POURPRES (The Crimson Rivers) Dir: Mathieu Kassovitz (R: grisly images, language) A grizzled criminologist and a hipster detective must work together on a case involving serial killings and dark university secrets. Disturbing thriller with stunning shots of the French Alps from Mathieu Kassovitz, La Haine director and Amilie co-star." Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:03:15 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 04:49:40PM -0400, Anne Toal wrote: > Please endeavor to be a little less third-world in your living conditions. > The image of a sweating, menustrating you has given me the fan-tods. These Texans--always trying to prove they are not "third world". Give up -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:05:30 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:14:57PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > Dan Lester said: > > TS> Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another > > TS> man? > > > > Or another woman? > > Yes; he is extremely charming and intelligent. It's sounding iffier and iffier to me, but not my business ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:07:15 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:17:54PM -0400, bonniev wrote: > How could you not?! Remember the scene at Judi Dench's birthday party > where everyone is converted to be accepting of one another once they get a > taste of the chocolate? Long, lingering shots of people tasting and loving > chocolate. Then instant brotherhood. Remember the mayor lolling in the > window of the store? One lick of his lower lip and he plunges in. Then > he loves everyone and does a complete turnaround. > > What do you see as the theme of the movie? Judi Dench is in a movie as silly as this? The turtles that hold up my world are slipping ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:08:03 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:09:44PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > 1) I go to Blues on the Green. > 2) I go to Free Francophone Films. > 3) I exist in Austin. How weird! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:09:43 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:24:18PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > Wow ... why can't we get along ... it really saddens me to > > see K@r3n's ebullient self come under such harsh criticism. > > I am framing this. This sentence is straight out of the heart of weird Austin. > spending the evening with a man who can say 'crepuscular' with > a straight face A nameless horror grips my heart. Send us reports on the hour that you are OK. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:18:29 -0500 From: Anne Toal Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in > These Texans--always trying to prove they are not "third world". > Give up I bow to your authority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:10:38 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:14:57PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > Dan Lester said: > > > TS> Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another > > > TS> man? > > > > > > Or another woman? > > > > Yes; he is extremely charming and intelligent. > > It's sounding iffier and iffier to me, but not my business ... Iffier? Anyway, you're right about that. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:24:47 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Square Footage Marie Ascher wrote: >> From: Natalie Maynor >> >>> Rita Chapman wrote: >> >> >> > They're all ugly. >> >> Including the cottage? I don't find it ugly. > > > Me neither. I think it was adorable in the picture anyway. Looked kinda charmless to me (I think my house is plain/ugly, btw). I like houses with funky details. Webster Groves has lots of funky houses -- too bad we can't afford to live there. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:26:15 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Square Footage Tushar Samant wrote: > On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 08:49:28PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> >>>>>>http://www.looknofurther.net/311bismark.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>I like it a lot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Really? I don't dislike it as much as that last one, but I like the >>>>cute little cottage better. This one looks like a gazillion other >>>>newish houses. >>>> >>>> >>>And look at that side with not a single window on it. I hate houses >>>without enough windows. >>> >> >>They're all ugly. >> > > ARE YOU CUTE?!! Haven't you been paying attention? I've was called *way cute* just last week. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:32:38 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: How About This One? Natalie Maynor wrote: > alyce cresap wrote: > > >>>No. My point is that I don't see much relationship between cost and the >>>number of rooms or the size of the house >>> >>Number of rooms and size of house are major elements in determining the >>cost of a house. How can you not see this? >> > > I understand that they are one element and that some people narrow their > house searches to those that are large enough to accommodate their x > number of children or regular guests, etc. But what I can't see at all > is saying something like "I wouldn't pay that much for a 1000-sq-ft > 1br/1bath house because I could get a 2000-sq-ft 3br/2bath house for > that amount." Huh? No, I'd just look for a less expensive 1000-sq-foot house. Duh. Cute smaller houses in desirable locations cost more than > larger uncute houses in undesirable locations. Or at least that is my > experience. Maybe it doesn't work that way in the Northeast. > I can't picture any property in Mississippi being particularly desirable, but whatever. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:33:24 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Food question Marie Ascher wrote: > No -- I don't think that's the case. I have smelled *uc*'s asparagus urine, > but I don't think I produce it. Or not like THAT anyway. Perhaps there are different degrees of it. I had eaten asparagus all of my life without ever noticing its effect until I heard somebody talking about it (asparagus urine in general, not mine in particular) when I was in my late twenties. That alerted me to pay attention, and then I did indeed start noticing it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:23:58 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Karen Kay said: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:14:57PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Dan Lester said: > > > > TS> Can Ligniere hold a sustained reasonable conversation with another > > > > TS> man? > > > > > > > > Or another woman? > > > > > > Yes; he is extremely charming and intelligent. > > > > It's sounding iffier and iffier to me, but not my business ... > > Iffier? Anyway, you're right about that. "That" being that it's not your business. What's the Chicago connection to the Wizard of Oz?! Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:35:08 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:42:44PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. Here is one reason why Patricia Barber is pissed off. Hm, maybe I posted this before, but anyway: I picked up a $1 demo CD at the record store one time, and it contained tracks by 12 artists. So I come home and before I play the stuff I bought I put on the demo. Every track except 2 sucks goats, and a few of them are basically smooth jazz. I am sorry. Horrible, absolutely horrible. Out of the 2, one is good but sounds sort of too *trained* or something--not a criticism per se. And then finally there is the P Barber track, which is the only good one on that sorry-ass disc. There is a URL on the liner notes, saying vote for best track, and since there is no question I go there and click. Then it displays the "vote so far" and the winner BY SEVERAL MILES is ... Scott Wilkie. Who on earth is Scott Wilkie? I look at the disc and indeed there is a Scott Wilkie on some track. Dang. I play it, and out fly reams of dumb ass Walgreens music. They didn't just not vote for the best, *they voted for the worst*. Well, one hopes Scott Wilkie has a dazzling career. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:35:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Rooms Marie Ascher wrote: > little disconcerting to be in what was actually a separate structure from > their then very young children. I'm imagining that this house is probably > like that. I dunno. It seems unlikely from the picture and the house size. This makes me wish I could go look at that house. I could inquire by e-mail, of course, but I don't really want to start e-mail correspondence with real estate people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:35:54 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Yesteryear "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >NM> "Intersanctum" > > > > Trust this has been corrected by now? > > No. Didn't we go through this in '91? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:36:17 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Square Footage On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:26:15PM -0500, Rita Chapman wrote: > > Haven't you been paying attention? I've was called *way > cute* just last week. Wordslers say anything. I can't pay attention to them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:37:06 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >They have fresh poultry at the farmers' market in Peekskill here. It comes > >from Hemlock Hill Farm which is about a mile from my home. It probably won't > >be there anymore in a couple of years. > > ...must be another of them cultural thangs... I would guess climate as perhaps a factor. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:39:01 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:13:35PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > Why do you think he's spoiled? Here I go plunging in ... What's that about "not speaking to you" etc? Who does that? Actually, cancel that. I don't want to go plunging in ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:41:47 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Marie Ascher wrote: > Domino lives across the street, a little up the hill. The previous owners of > our house also had a beagle -- who was also named Domino. On our visits > looking at the house before buying we had met that Domino. On the day we > moved in, we were cleaning in the kitchen, and I looked out the window and > down the driveway pranced a dalmation. I thought, "Domino? You're supposed > to be in North Carolina..." called his name, and he came running toward me. > I thought they had forgotten their dog. Turns out, at one point the families > accidentally swapped dogs for a couple hours. I'm really bad at multi-tasking. I've got the tiny tv set on and am listening to CBS news while reading e-mail. I think I can't handle both. Why did you think that a dalmation prancing up the driveway was a beagle? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:44:27 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Square Footage Marie Ascher wrote: > > > They're all ugly. > > > >Including the cottage? I don't find it ugly. > > Me neither. I think it was adorable in the picture anyway. The screwy web site wasn't working right last night in that the tiny pictures of other views weren't enlarging the way they were supposed to. I haven't checked it today to see whether it's fixed now. I really would love to see that cottage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:51:46 -0700 From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? At 02:42 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. I don't feel like talking about her. BB -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:48:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? Karen Kay wrote: > > My guess is that there's only this one million-plus house for sale right > > now. > > The avg house price in Austin is much lower than that, and we have a > number of $300,000+ houses for sale, which is why I asked. But if there are also lots of cheap houses for sale, the average would come down. We also have a good many $300,000+ houses for sale, though I'd say that there are far more in the $200,000s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:13:48 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >Judi Dench is in a movie as silly as this? It's not a silly movie. It is a tale of good and evil. >The turtles that hold up my world are slipping ... Get a grip. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:18:42 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Yesteryear At 05:35 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, you wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >NM> "Intersanctum" > > > > > > Trust this has been corrected by now? > > > > No. > >Didn't we go through this in '91? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) ...only in your mind... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:22:06 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: How About This One? >I can't picture any property in Mississippi being >particularly desirable, but whatever. >Rita Rouvalis Chapman ROFL. You cute ! --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:22:56 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:14:42PM -0700, Janet Hardy wrote: > >No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately > >for indulging in just this sort of mocking... > > An honest question: Does it distress you when this sort of thing > happens to you, or do you accept it as part of being the kind of > person you are? Very good question, Janet--I hadn't thought about it that way, and hence I thank you. The overall answer is the latter, but that's mostly because this sort of thing doesn't distress me even slightly. However, it's not like I *accept* something this general per se ... An example of what happened--and I hope I can keep it clear of too-specific facts--is that without really knowing it I had gotten sort of disillusioned with this group. It always happens to me, when with people with a carefully-nurtured and very fragile self-image of "cool". Or "weird". Note, I am talking about something far more soap-operatic than, say, this god-forsaken list. Basically, I don't like the behavior I am alluding to; it's the equivalent of saying, play by my frightfully fake rules, keep calling me "cool" (why is that important? ask them not me), and better remember that calling me cool consists of strenuously asserting that every last dull thing I do is "weird", and if you don't, I will tune you out and at a minimum seethe. I will not say that I behave in an exemplary fashion, and frankly I enjoy making fun of such ridiculous characters. The charge of being insensitive to very special people may be leveled--however, I can say I tried for a very long time to play well with all the monstrous fakeness. One, I asked: would I have been that fragile-ego'd at that age? The answer was no. Two, I asked: plunged in a strange world and unsure of my world-view, would I have felt hostile to somebody saying the kind of things I am saying now? The answer was again no. As it happens I typically did just the opposite--try to learn, try to jettison the fakeness, expose you fragility, etc. This provided the starting point for the erosion of respect. Note that I all THIS its starting point; i.e. it was empha- tically not based on a feeling of superiority, intellectually or emotionally. However, that became a significant factor once the basis had been established. And once you lose respect for someone, you are absolutely blind to what they say about you, or discuss about you among themselves in front of you, etc etc. That's just "human nature", and I don't think it's an aspect of human nature that needs to be overcome. In other words, fuck'em. I do not think this is a good thing for this group--or the two or three who were the ringleaders--but I feel more or less certain that they will stay in that groove for a long time, and grow duller and duller--with a progressively wilting zest for life, and a tepid kind of stasis negotiated between each other, and no real challenges and no real self-mocking. Within the context they will all be cool and weird, and that's about all. Now if I were careening towards the same kind of predicament but with people whose intelligence--in both senses, stock of knowledge and reflective ability--I respected, then whether I loved or hated them, and whether they fortified or threatened my sense of self, I would (I HOPE) behave quite differently. I would ask dumb questions and make a fool of myself, etc etc. But that happens rarely, to be frank. Prima donnas occupy most of the space. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:23:36 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:13:48PM -0400, bonniev wrote: > >Judi Dench is in a movie as silly as this? > > It's not a silly movie. It is a tale of good and evil. My bad! Shakespeare and stuff, heh? > >The turtles that hold up my world are slipping ... > > Get a grip. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:24:50 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 03:51:46PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > At 02:42 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > I don't feel like talking about her. Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know what crepuscular means, without looking it up? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:25:49 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? >>Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > >I don't feel like talking about her. >BB Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:26:50 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:41:47PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm really bad at multi-tasking. I've got the tiny tv set on and am > listening to CBS news while reading e-mail. I think I can't handle > both. Why did you think that a dalmation prancing up the driveway > was a beagle? It's dalmatiAn, OK? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:29:24 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in At 05:37 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, natalierote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >They have fresh poultry at the farmers' market in Peekskill here. It comes > > >from Hemlock Hill Farm which is about a mile from my home. It probably > won't > > >be there anymore in a couple of years. > > > > ...must be another of them cultural thangs... > >I would guess climate as perhaps a factor. Leaving aside the possible relationships between climate and the marketing of poultry.... Atlanta has two very large farmers' markets where one can purchase fresh produce, fruit, herbs, breads of many types, meats, and fresh fish. So, as I remember, does Asheville, NC. Most of the farmers' markets here offer, in addition to produce, fruit, and fresh flowers---meat (fresh and cured---mostly all "organic"), poultry (also usually "organic"), cheeses (especially various varieties of chevre), and baked goodies. Many such markets provide climate-control facilities (sometimes known as refrigerated coolers) to maintain the meat, etc., in decent condition. Perhaps one day this technology will reach Mississippi. cwv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:31:05 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs > > >Judi Dench is in a movie as silly as this? > > > > It's not a silly movie. It is a tale of good and evil. > >My bad! Shakespeare and stuff, heh? Not Shakespeare. Think Morality Play. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:33:19 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in The farmer's market across the street from my apartment in Cambridge always had a guy who sold the most fabulous turkey pot pies. Wow, I miss those. clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 05:37 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, natalierote: > >> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> >> > >They have fresh poultry at the farmers' market in Peekskill here. >> It comes >> > >from Hemlock Hill Farm which is about a mile from my home. It probably >> won't >> > >be there anymore in a couple of years. >> > >> > ...must be another of them cultural thangs... >> >> I would guess climate as perhaps a factor. > > > Leaving aside the possible relationships between climate and the marketing > of poultry.... Atlanta has two very large farmers' markets where one can > purchase fresh produce, fruit, herbs, breads of many types, meats, and > fresh fish. So, as I remember, does Asheville, NC. Most of the farmers' > markets here offer, in addition to produce, fruit, and fresh flowers---meat > (fresh and cured---mostly all "organic"), poultry (also usually "organic"), > cheeses (especially various varieties of chevre), and baked goodies. Many > such markets provide climate-control facilities (sometimes known as > refrigerated coolers) to maintain the meat, etc., in decent > condition. Perhaps one day this technology will reach Mississippi. > > cwv > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:32:39 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? >Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know >what crepuscular means, without looking it up? When you get out of the car after a long trip and your muscles kinda ache in a creeping way ?? --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:35:17 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in >The farmer's market across the street from my apartment in >Cambridge always had a guy who sold the most fabulous turkey >pot pies. Wow, I miss those. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman Come home, Rita! Leave right now and you will make it in time for the season's first Nor'easter which is to hit us Wednesday night. My guess is that the organizing committee will be delayed in laying out the Head of the Chuck course. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:39:46 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:32:39PM -0400, bonniev wrote: > >Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know > >what crepuscular means, without looking it up? > > When you get out of the car after a long trip and your muscles kinda ache > in a creeping way ?? Accompanied by cracking joints, but otherwise you are right. It's to do with blood cells. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:41:19 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor Dan Lester wrote: > ac> What? To decide what you're good at so you can do it in your dotage? > > My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or > for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd > be good at being a sex worker? I like Bethany's attitude. I don't share it, but I admire it. How old was Grandma Moses when she discovered she was good at art? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:43:00 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > leave them alone and they'll come home... > > This happened to me a few times. They always reappeared after a few days or a > few weeks. I find this whole scene way, way weird. And worrisome. My whole pop-life, other than my Japanese popping, which was with Eudora on the Macshit, has been with Netscape Mail. And it has not failed me yet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:43:42 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Tushar Samant wrote: > Such a house will be vociferously declared as extremely > good-looking. And? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:50:16 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Signs Marie Ascher wrote: > I'll send you some after my next visit to Woodbury Commons (the outlet mall) > -- but if Alyce has some sitting around... I will send mine, but having said that, I had better check because I haven't looked at the candy pile since Doug was here. WIll look when I get up from here. alyce > -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:43:42PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Such a house will be vociferously declared as extremely > > good-looking. > > And? What do you mean, "and"? True and anything is that thing, if you are looking for a general rule. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:51:44 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Translation please. bonniev wrote: > Thank you! Is Schurwolle a certain kind of wool? I think it means pure sheep's wool. No llama or cashmere. > Would washing in 40 degrees mean washing in warm water? Wonder if it is C or F? If Fahrenheit, 40 would be cold. alyce > > --bonniev -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:52:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Word question Dan Lester wrote: > NM> So it really is related to enamel? > > From my limited understanding of the techniques in the quoted > passages from OED, yes. You are correct. I just looked in my Larousse and found this (leaving out the diactrical marks): 1. email n.m. Vernis rendu tres dur et inalterable par l'action de la chaluer, et dont on recouvre certaines matieres. [examples not included here because I'm lazy]. emaux n.m. pl. Bibelots, objets d'art recourverts d'email. 2. email n.m. (seulement sing.) Substance dure et blanche qui recouvre la couronne des dents. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:55:25 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Translation please. > > Would washing in 40 degrees mean washing in warm water? > >Wonder if it is C or F? If Fahrenheit, 40 would be cold. >alyce It would be C. It's German. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:56:05 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Yesteryear Dan Lester wrote: > So I see. That was a very surprising "wordo" from Dr. Maynor. Why? I do think we went through this same discussion in '91 in another of our trips down radio memory lane. My friends and I called it "The Creaking Door." I remember being told that its real name was "Intersanctum." I never saw it written. The spelling that hopped into my head when that was said was the spelling I just used. It is frozen in my brain forever. I guess you could call it fossilization if you're into SLA (second-language acquisition) talk. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:56:40 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >Marie Ascher wrote: > > I'll send you some after my next visit to Woodbury Commons (the outlet > mall) > > -- but if Alyce has some sitting around... > >I will send mine, but having said that, I had better check because I >haven't looked at the candy pile since Doug was here. WIll look when I >get up from here. --alyce I will accept candy from any address. But, you sending me your candy, Alyce, does not repay Marie's debt. Not. Never. No Way. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:57:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... Tushar Samant wrote: > > How do you go on using an application which induces fear and > superstition in you? Pathetic ... > > (In contrast, Mutant seems like eligible for freakin' canonizing ... > Mutant uses a mail application which is completely predictable and > has no problems.) I use unix mailx for almost everything except Words-L. I use Netscape Mail for Words-L. This discussion has of course rendered me gripped with fear. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:58:36 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? At 06:39 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote: >Accompanied by cracking joints, but otherwise you are right. >It's to do with blood cells. Nonsense. Q- (i.e., well below F-) cwv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:02:52 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor At 06:41 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, natalie wrote: >Dan Lester wrote: > > > ac> What? To decide what you're good at so you can do it in your dotage? > > > > My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or > > for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd > > be good at being a sex worker? > >I like Bethany's attitude. I don't share it, but I admire it. How old >was Grandma Moses when she discovered she was good at art? Irrespective of how old she might have been, nothing she did in art was the result of some aptitude test She liked to do it, so she did it, and subsequently was "discovered." cwv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:02:57 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Winter clothes alyce cresap wrote: > Bloomingdale's is overpriced, imho, snobby, and My goodness, gracious. I have not shopped often at Bloomingdale's, but I have observed on those few times I have shopped there that there are super bargains there. Great sales. The same stuff I could buy in department stores in this general vicinity (we have no dept stores right here in Sville) was about half the price in Bloomingdale's. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:16:51 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Have we discussed.... On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:57:45PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I use Netscape Mail for Words-L. Night, float us -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:18:12 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:58:36PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:39 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, tushar wrote: > >Accompanied by cracking joints, but otherwise you are right. > >It's to do with blood cells. > > Nonsense. Q- (i.e., well below F-) How low you have sunk. Flouting the truth for some microscopic affirmation from K*R*N ... shame, shame ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:20:50 -0700 From: Betty Subject: Re: Signs At 06:22 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:14:42PM -0700, Janet Hardy wrote: > > >No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately > > >for indulging in just this sort of mocking... > > > > An honest question: Does it distress you when this sort of thing > > happens to you, or do you accept it as part of being the kind of > > person you are? > >Very good question, Janet--I hadn't thought about it that way, >and hence I thank you. The overall answer is the latter, but >that's mostly because this sort of thing doesn't distress me >even slightly. However, it's not like I *accept* something >this general per se ... > >An example of what happened--and I hope I can keep it clear >of too-specific facts--is that without really knowing it I >had gotten sort of disillusioned with this group. It always >happens to me, when with people with a carefully-nurtured >and very fragile self-image of "cool". Or "weird". Note, I >am talking about something far more soap-operatic than, say, >this god-forsaken list. Basically, I don't like the behavior >I am alluding to; it's the equivalent of saying, play by my >frightfully fake rules, keep calling me "cool" (why is that >important? ask them not me), and better remember that calling >me cool consists of strenuously asserting that every last >dull thing I do is "weird", and if you don't, I will tune >you out and at a minimum seethe. > >I will not say that I behave in an exemplary fashion, and >frankly I enjoy making fun of such ridiculous characters. >The charge of being insensitive to very special people may >be leveled--however, I can say I tried for a very long time >to play well with all the monstrous fakeness. One, I asked: >would I have been that fragile-ego'd at that age? The answer >was no. Two, I asked: plunged in a strange world and unsure >of my world-view, would I have felt hostile to somebody saying >the kind of things I am saying now? The answer was again no. >As it happens I typically did just the opposite--try to learn, >try to jettison the fakeness, expose you fragility, etc. > >This provided the starting point for the erosion of respect. >Note that I all THIS its starting point; i.e. it was empha- >tically not based on a feeling of superiority, intellectually >or emotionally. However, that became a significant factor once >the basis had been established. And once you lose respect for >someone, you are absolutely blind to what they say about you, >or discuss about you among themselves in front of you, etc >etc. That's just "human nature", and I don't think it's an >aspect of human nature that needs to be overcome. In other >words, fuck'em. > >I do not think this is a good thing for this group--or the >two or three who were the ringleaders--but I feel more or >less certain that they will stay in that groove for a long >time, and grow duller and duller--with a progressively wilting >zest for life, and a tepid kind of stasis negotiated between >each other, and no real challenges and no real self-mocking. >Within the context they will all be cool and weird, and that's >about all. > >Now if I were careening towards the same kind of predicament >but with people whose intelligence--in both senses, stock of >knowledge and reflective ability--I respected, then whether I >loved or hated them, and whether they fortified or threatened >my sense of self, I would (I HOPE) behave quite differently. >I would ask dumb questions and make a fool of myself, etc etc. >But that happens rarely, to be frank. Prima donnas occupy most >of the space. This is exactly what has happened to me on another list! I wish they would kick me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:19:23 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:02:57PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > My goodness, gracious. I have not shopped often at Bloomingdale's, but > I have observed on those few times I have shopped there that there are > super bargains there. Great sales. I am SO not going ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:20:06 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:02:52PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:41 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, natalie wrote: > >Dan Lester wrote: > > > >> ac> What? To decide what you're good at so you can do it in your dotage? > >> > >> My thought exactly. If you don't know what you're good at or > >> for by now, t'would seem a bit too late. What if it shows you'd > >> be good at being a sex worker? > > > >I like Bethany's attitude. I don't share it, but I admire it. How old > >was Grandma Moses when she discovered she was good at art? > > Irrespective of how old she might have been, nothing she did in art was > the result of some aptitude test She liked to do it, so she did it, and > subsequently was "discovered." "Discovered"? That's what aptitude tests are. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:23:41 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Square Footage Rita Chapman wrote: > > Me neither. I think it was adorable in the picture anyway. > > Looked kinda charmless to me (I think my house is > plain/ugly, btw). I like houses with funky details. > Webster Groves has lots of funky houses -- too bad we can't > afford to live there. What exactly do you consider funky details? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:25:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Square Footage Rita Chapman wrote: > I like houses with funky details. Were you around when I posted the pictures of the little houses with the three statues on top? Are those funky details? Those are in my old neighborhood. Dan Camp is considered a master of certain kinds of details, though I'm not sure whether they're exactly funky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:27:40 -0700 From: Betty Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? At 06:24 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: >On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 03:51:46PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > > At 02:42 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > >Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > > > I don't feel like talking about her. > >Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know >what crepuscular means, without looking it up? Oleander is squeezing Karen's pimples? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:31:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? Rita Chapman wrote: > > But what I can't see at all > > is saying something like "I wouldn't pay that much for a 1000-sq-ft > > 1br/1bath house because I could get a 2000-sq-ft 3br/2bath house for > > that amount." > > Huh? No, I'd just look for a less expensive 1000-sq-foot > house. Duh. Well sure. Smaller uglies are also available. > I can't picture any property in Mississippi being > particularly desirable, but whatever. I didn't realize you'd spent time in Mississippi. Where all have you been in the state? As for your not finding the properties desirable, it appears from what you've been saying so far that your main interest is the most square footage for the money. There are plenty of cheap uglies available in Mississippi that should suit your taste. There's also plenty of property that is the opposite of that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:33:31 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:20:50PM -0700, Betty wrote: > At 06:22 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:14:42PM -0700, Janet Hardy wrote: > >> >No, no, MEA culpa. I have been kicked off several lists lately > >> >for indulging in just this sort of mocking... > >> > >> An honest question: Does it distress you when this sort of thing > >> happens to you, or do you accept it as part of being the kind of > >> person you are? > > > >Very good question, Janet--I hadn't thought about it that way, > >and hence I thank you. The overall answer is the latter, but > >that's mostly because this sort of thing doesn't distress me > >even slightly. However, it's not like I *accept* something > >this general per se ... > > > >An example of what happened--and I hope I can keep it clear > >of too-specific facts--is that without really knowing it I > >had gotten sort of disillusioned with this group. It always > >happens to me, when with people with a carefully-nurtured > >and very fragile self-image of "cool". Or "weird". Note, I > >am talking about something far more soap-operatic than, say, > >this god-forsaken list. Basically, I don't like the behavior > >I am alluding to; it's the equivalent of saying, play by my > >frightfully fake rules, keep calling me "cool" (why is that > >important? ask them not me), and better remember that calling > >me cool consists of strenuously asserting that every last > >dull thing I do is "weird", and if you don't, I will tune > >you out and at a minimum seethe. > > > >I will not say that I behave in an exemplary fashion, and > >frankly I enjoy making fun of such ridiculous characters. > >The charge of being insensitive to very special people may > >be leveled--however, I can say I tried for a very long time > >to play well with all the monstrous fakeness. One, I asked: > >would I have been that fragile-ego'd at that age? The answer > >was no. Two, I asked: plunged in a strange world and unsure > >of my world-view, would I have felt hostile to somebody saying > >the kind of things I am saying now? The answer was again no. > >As it happens I typically did just the opposite--try to learn, > >try to jettison the fakeness, expose you fragility, etc. > > > >This provided the starting point for the erosion of respect. > >Note that I all THIS its starting point; i.e. it was empha- > >tically not based on a feeling of superiority, intellectually > >or emotionally. However, that became a significant factor once > >the basis had been established. And once you lose respect for > >someone, you are absolutely blind to what they say about you, > >or discuss about you among themselves in front of you, etc > >etc. That's just "human nature", and I don't think it's an > >aspect of human nature that needs to be overcome. In other > >words, fuck'em. > > > >I do not think this is a good thing for this group--or the > >two or three who were the ringleaders--but I feel more or > >less certain that they will stay in that groove for a long > >time, and grow duller and duller--with a progressively wilting > >zest for life, and a tepid kind of stasis negotiated between > >each other, and no real challenges and no real self-mocking. > >Within the context they will all be cool and weird, and that's > >about all. > > > >Now if I were careening towards the same kind of predicament > >but with people whose intelligence--in both senses, stock of > >knowledge and reflective ability--I respected, then whether I > >loved or hated them, and whether they fortified or threatened > >my sense of self, I would (I HOPE) behave quite differently. > >I would ask dumb questions and make a fool of myself, etc etc. > >But that happens rarely, to be frank. Prima donnas occupy most > >of the space. > > > This is exactly what has happened to me on another list! Poor thing ... No wonder you don't feel like talking about Pat Barber ... > I wish they would kick me. They didn't kick me. They just kept discussing like passive aggressive bitches how one single poster has ruined it for all of them, and how the giants that once strode the list (they were nothing special) have well-nigh disappeared, and really, how DO we protect ourselves from these evil attacks and return to the garden of Eden where everyone is really smart, and weird, and mutually helpful, and assigns high coolness points to every concert or rave attended, dose "dropped", tediously "deviant" sex act indulged in, etc. When it topped its potential to derive fun from, I left. There are probably archives somewhere--in which case you could see for yourself. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:34:17 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:27:40PM -0700, Betty wrote: > At 06:24 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, Tushar Samant wrote: > >On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 03:51:46PM -0700, Betty Clark wrote: > >> At 02:42 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >> >Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > >> > >> I don't feel like talking about her. > > > >Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know > >what crepuscular means, without looking it up? > > Oleander is squeezing Karen's pimples? Z- You are fired. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:34:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? bonniev wrote: > > >I can't picture any property in Mississippi being > >particularly desirable, but whatever. > >Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > ROFL. You cute ! I don't understand. Seriously. How much of Mississippi has Rita seen? Why does she not find the property desirable? It's fine if she doesn't find it so. To each his or her own. I'm just curious about the why. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:35:14 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: How About This One? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:31:18PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I can't picture any property in Mississippi being > > particularly desirable, but whatever. > > I didn't realize you'd spent time in Mississippi. Where all have you > been in the state? As for your not finding the properties desirable, it > appears from what you've been saying so far that your main interest is > the most square footage for the money. There are plenty of cheap > uglies available in Mississippi that should suit your taste. There's > also plenty of property that is the opposite of that. GO MUTANT! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:38:16 -0400 From: Adam Hartfield Subject: Re: Returning to > Can you take night classes to get started? Probably. I have no idea if any of my old credits are any good, or what any transfer requirements would be. I'd want to transfer whatever credits I earned up here back to Drew..I'd like to not have wasted $30K. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:36:52 -0700 From: John Williams Subject: Re: 12 bullets - 0 hit me > > > I mentioned the event to a travelling saleswoman in Wal-Mart. > > > > She said that shootings are never mentioned in the media, whether > > newspaper, radio, or TV, > > unless someone is murdered. > > > > There are just too many of them. Oh, surely that can't be true. Not in Canada with all their "sensible" gun laws. (Besides, I thought bombs were more popular in Ontario.) JMW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:37:52 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Signs Tushar Samant wrote: > Very good question, Janet-- And very good answer, Tushykins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:38:28 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:37:52PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Very good question, Janet-- > > And very good answer, Tushykins. Thank you, Dr Maynor. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:38:30 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Tushar Samant wrote: > > Why did you think that a dalmation prancing up the driveway > > was a beagle? > > It's dalmatiAn, OK? Thank you, Karen. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:39:31 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs >and return to the garden of Eden where everyone is really >smart, and weird, and mutually helpful, and assigns high >coolness points to every concert or rave attended, dose >"dropped", tediously "deviant" sex act indulged in, etc. >When it topped its potential to derive fun from, I left. >There are probably archives somewhere--in which case you >could see for yourself. Was Borkin there with you? --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:41:39 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Returning to >Probably. I have no idea if any of my old credits are any good, or what any >transfer requirements would be. I'd want to transfer whatever credits I >earned up here back to Drew..I'd like to not have wasted $30K. >--Adam It wasn't a waste, Adam. It helped to make you the man you are today: The List Honey. That's so much better than A Serious Young Man. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:42:18 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Many > such markets provide climate-control facilities (sometimes known as > refrigerated coolers) to maintain the meat, etc., in decent > condition. Perhaps one day this technology will reach Mississippi. I haven't been to a farmers' market in Mississippi since my early childhood. I guess that one in Jackson still exists. What I call a "farmers' market" is a place where farmers bring in their produce in trucks and sell it either out of the backs of the trucks or in bins inside a building. When "climate-control facitilies" are involved, I think of it as simply a "store," not a "farmers' market." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:44:02 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: How About This One? Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>> But what I can't see at all >>>is saying something like "I wouldn't pay that much for a 1000-sq-ft >>>1br/1bath house because I could get a 2000-sq-ft 3br/2bath house for >>>that amount." >>> >>Huh? No, I'd just look for a less expensive 1000-sq-foot >>house. Duh. >> > > Well sure. Smaller uglies are also available. > > >>I can't picture any property in Mississippi being >>particularly desirable, but whatever. >> > > I didn't realize you'd spent time in Mississippi. Where all have you > been in the state? I've driven through. Couldn't say where exactly as it made very little impression on me. I think of major cultural or economic centers as being highly desirable. Mississippi doesn't strike me as having either -- certainly nothing you've said has given me that impression. What's desirable about the worst literacy rate and some of the highest poverty rates in the country? As for your not finding the properties desirable, it > appears from what you've been saying so far that your main interest is > the most square footage for the money. No, that's the direct oppposite of what I said above. I'd be looking for a house that is the right size for me at a reasonable price. And that I liked. There are plenty of cheap > uglies available in Mississippi that should suit your taste. There's > also plenty of property that is the opposite of that. > I don't like cheap uglies. You even replied to my message in which I said I didn't like ugly houses. How odd. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:35:56 -0700 From: S Hess Subject: Re: Signs > Here's the blurb for the movie I'm seeing tonight: > > "10/14 LES RIVIERES POURPRES (The Crimson Rivers) Dir: Mathieu > Kassovitz (R: grisly images, language) A grizzled criminologist and a > hipster detective must work together on a case involving serial > killings and dark university secrets. Disturbing thriller with > stunning shots of the French Alps from Mathieu Kassovitz, La Haine > director and Amilie co-star." > > Karen Is this a new or oldish film? Sandra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:46:42 -0400 From: Adam Hartfield Subject: Re: Elevator? > http://www.acadia.net/edenbrook/ > > That's almost right next door to The Cleftstone Inn where we used to > stay. Pretty good location, just a block or two out of the village. > > > --bonniev Yup, that's it. She liked it. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:48:05 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Square Footage Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>Me neither. I think it was adorable in the picture anyway. >>> >>Looked kinda charmless to me (I think my house is >>plain/ugly, btw). I like houses with funky details. >>Webster Groves has lots of funky houses -- too bad we can't >>afford to live there. >> > > What exactly do you consider funky details? Asymmetrical features, porches, round rooms, dormers sticking out at odd angles, rooms added on as needed -- houses that have personality. A house with statues on top may be funky, but that's kind of superficial -- would it still be funky if a good strong wind blew the statues off? Or would it then just become Yet Another Ranch Style Home. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:48:38 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in bonniev wrote: >> The farmer's market across the street from my apartment in >> Cambridge always had a guy who sold the most fabulous turkey >> pot pies. Wow, I miss those. --Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > Come home, Rita! Leave right now and you will make it in time for the > season's first Nor'easter which is to hit us Wednesday night. My guess is > that the organizing committee will be delayed in laying out the Head of the > Chuck course. Dammit, and I could really use a snow day right now, too. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:55:13 -0700 From: Betty Subject: Re: Returning to At 08:38 PM 10/14/2002 -0400, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Can you take night classes to get started? > >Probably. I have no idea if any of my old credits are any good, or what any >transfer requirements would be. I'd want to transfer whatever credits I >earned up here back to Drew..I'd like to not have wasted $30K. Check it out, Adam. I bet you can transfer. Start with one class. Betty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:46:27 -0700 From: S Hess Subject: Re: Yesteryear > Dan Lester wrote: > > > So I see. That was a very surprising "wordo" from Dr. Maynor. > > Why? I do think we went through this same discussion in '91 in another > of our trips down radio memory lane. My friends and I called it "The > Creaking Door." I remember being told that its real name was > "Intersanctum." I never saw it written. The spelling that hopped into > my head when that was said was the spelling I just used. It is frozen > in my brain forever. I guess you could call it fossilization if you're > into SLA (second-language acquisition) talk. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have an album of one of their episodes. It's INNER SANCTUM. I remember the Creaking Door and I can duplicate the sound if I mouth breathe in very, very slowly. BTW, tonight on Radio Spirits, they're playing an episode of ESCAPE and JACK BENNY. Or, you can listen to it on their site: www.radiospirits.com Sandra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:02:45 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Such a house will be vociferously declared as extremely > > > good-looking. > > > > And? > > What do you mean, "and"? True and anything is that thing, > if you are looking for a general rule. I mean "and what does this have to do with the price of sundered artichokes in Lichtenstein?" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:04:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >I like Bethany's attitude. I don't share it, but I admire it. How old > >was Grandma Moses when she discovered she was good at art? > > Irrespective of how old she might have been, nothing she did in art was the > result of some aptitude test She liked to do it, so she did it, and > subsequently was "discovered." I must admit that I don't know Grandma M's biography. But would it have been or for her to have decided to take an aptitude test? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:05:03 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? Betty wrote: > >Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know > >what crepuscular means, without looking it up? > > Oleander is squeezing Karen's pimples? Ugh. Think of what the dogs would do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:06:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Returning to Adam Hartfield wrote: > Probably. I have no idea if any of my old credits are any good, or what any > transfer requirements would be. I'd want to transfer whatever credits I > earned up here back to Drew..I'd like to not have wasted $30K. That would be very easy to find out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:00:44 -0700 From: S Hess Subject: The coddling of children My brother, father of two young girls (first & third graders) enrolled in a private, coed school, tells me there are new rules for inviting classmates to birthday parties. It goes like this: you can invite two classmates...but to invite more than two, you must either invite ALL your classmates or invite all the girls or all the boys in your class. He found the rule unusual, so he checked the web site of the private school he attended. It also has the same rule, so we're under the impression, it's fairly common in the private school world. It bothers me. I know the intention is to prevent kids from getting their feelings hurt. But it's not preparing children for the real world. It's the same with bowling. When we were kids, we bowled without benefit of bumpers that ensured our knocking down a pin or two. It didn't kill us; we remained emotionally intact. I wonder if they have a new system for choosing sides of teams. Sandra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:18:35 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: The coddling of children S Hess wrote: > My brother, father of two young girls (first & third graders) enrolled in a > private, coed school, tells me there are new rules for inviting classmates > to birthday parties. It goes like this: you can invite two classmates...but > to invite more than two, you must either invite ALL your classmates or > invite all the girls or all the boys in your class. He found the rule > unusual, so he checked the web site of the private school he attended. It > also has the same rule, so we're under the impression, it's fairly common in > the private school world. This type of rule is common in most classrooms. I don't know what it is for Ana's class because I don't usually have birthday parties for her, but at the very least invitations can't go out in the school unless all children are invited. The idea is not to prevent them from knowing what it is like in "the real world" -- but to help them change "the real world" of elementary school to something more accepting and conducive to learning for all students rather than the hell it can be for children who are ostracized -- and hopefully change the "real world" outside elementary school, too. > It bothers me. I know the intention is to prevent kids from getting their > feelings hurt. But it's not preparing children for the real world. It's the > same with bowling. When we were kids, we bowled without benefit of bumpers > that ensured our knocking down a pin or two. It didn't kill us; we remained > emotionally intact. Fuck your real world. They're children. And many do not remain emotionally intact. I have a fifteen-year-old right now who has been abused by her father to such a point that she's been taken away from her mother and placed in a group home; she's also pregnant and was beat up by her boyfriend the other day. Is that real enough for you? Is she now a better person and "emotionally intact" enough for you? > I wonder if they have a new system for choosing sides of teams. Why do you want children to be humiliated and cut down by their peers on a daily basis? What purpose does that serve in your real world? Is that the world you want to live in? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:24:26 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: How About This One? Rita Chapman wrote: > > I didn't realize you'd spent time in Mississippi. Where all have you > > been in the state? > > I've driven through. Couldn't say where exactly as it made > very little impression on me. I think of major cultural or > economic centers as being highly desirable. Mississippi > doesn't strike me as having either -- certainly nothing > you've said has given me that impression. What's desirable > about the worst literacy rate and some of the highest > poverty rates in the country? Re driving through a state, I must say that your impression of Mississippi is quite similar to my impression of Missouri. Basically nothing to be impressed with one way or the other. Yes, I like cultural centers. Actually, Mississippi has some pretty impressive cultural stuff and always has. I don't mean it's always had the same stuff. But it's always had quite a bit. Being the only US state to host every howevermany years the International Ballet Competition is something that has come along in the past twenty or so years. But there has always been what you might consider in Mississippi. The number of acclaimed writers from Mississippi is not really an accident. (And I'm not talking now about people like John Grisham.) Sure it's the poorest state in the country. And that means the worst literacy rate and highest poverty rate. Those things go together. It is a fact that blacks have not yet caught up with whites in literacy rates and economic level. You can find that information in all kinds of sources. And that fact is reflected in such statistics for a state with a racial ratio of about 50-50. That's changing, of course. The black middle class is growing every year. And, of course, Mississippi has its share of wealthy black residents -- people like Morgan Freeman. But still the statistics are race-related. Having the highest poverty rate in the country might be evidence that it's not the kind of you find desirable, but it says little or nothing about being a . In addition to things I mentioned above like the ballet, I daresay that the Delta Blues Festival is one of the most significant annual events in the country. > As for your not finding the properties desirable, it > > appears from what you've been saying so far that your main interest is > > the most square footage for the money. > > No, that's the direct oppposite of what I said above. I'd > be looking for a house that is the right size for me at a > reasonable price. And that I liked. Hmm. I thought you said in response to my not understanding why somebody would say, "Why should I pay that for a 1000-sq-ft house when I could buy a 2000-sq-ft house for that amount" something like "I'd find a 1000-sq-ft house at a lower price." That led me to believe that you were not interested in paying for anything other than space. > There are plenty of cheap > > uglies available in Mississippi that should suit your taste. There's > > also plenty of property that is the opposite of that. > > I don't like cheap uglies. You even replied to my message > in which I said I didn't like ugly houses. How odd. But you don't understand why anybody would pay as much for a small cute house as a larger house would cost. Or so you said earlier. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:29:17 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Square Footage Rita Chapman wrote: > > What exactly do you consider funky details? > > Asymmetrical features, porches, round rooms, dormers sticking > out at odd angles, rooms added on as needed -- houses that > have personality. I've never thought of those as regional. You can certainly find them in Mississippi. > A house with statues on top may be funky, > but that's kind of superficial -- would it still be funky if > a good strong wind blew the statues off? Or would it then > just become Yet Another Ranch Style Home. Not a Ranch Style Home by a long shot! I'm ROFL at the thought of a ranch-style home in the kind of neighborhood I'm talking about. (And so far the statues haven't blown off, even during the storm a couple of years ago that blew off about half the roofs in town.) Mind you -- I'm not saying that I *like* the statues. I think they're ridiculous. But they're . That's why I thought of them re your mention of funky. I wasn't sure what you meant by funky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:27:16 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Signs >Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Very good question, Janet-- > >And very good answer, Tushykins. Indeed. I have been trying to learn about/from people who do not share my neurotic need to be liked, and Tushar seems to fit that description rather nicely. Thanks, Tushar. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:36:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: The coddling of children S Hess wrote: > to invite more than two, you must either invite ALL your classmates or > invite all the girls or all the boys in your class. He found the rule > unusual, so he checked the web site of the private school he attended. It > also has the same rule, so we're under the impression, it's fairly common in > the private school world. I don't know, but I think it's a good rule. > It bothers me. I know the intention is to prevent kids from getting their > feelings hurt. But it's not preparing children for the real world. I agree that children can't be and shouldn't be sheltered from all hurts. But I see no value in subjecting young children to the kind of hurt that can come from being left out in elementary school. I was thinking about that not long ago re an old classmate who drives many of us crazy in e-mail. Long story that I won't go into, but what I was thinking about was how she was not back then. She was no doubt left out of parties at times. And I think it did bad things to her. > I wonder if they have a new system for choosing sides of teams. I hope so. And I am saying all of this in what I would call an objective vein since I was never left out of parties or chosen last on teams. But I know people who were. It can be permanently scarring. Sure, adults have to cope with such things also, but adults have less fragile egos. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:40:35 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Karen Kay wrote: > What's the Chicago connection to the Wizard of Oz?! I don't know, but they have a real yellow brick road in Sophia, Bulgaria. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:46:55 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Translation please. bonniev wrote: > > > It would be C. It's German. Ooh, 104 Fahrenheit. I was way off. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:48:37 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Yesteryear Natalie Maynor wrote: > I remember being told that its real name was > "Intersanctum." And you never thought of its meaning? You thought it was between sanctums/sancti/sancta/whatever? It didn't occur to you that it was the inner room? alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:50:33 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Winter clothes Natalie Maynor wrote: > > My goodness, gracious. I have not shopped often at Bloomingdale's, but > I have observed on those few times I have shopped there that there are > super bargains there. Well, of course you would know more about shopping in New York City than I. Tushar, listen to Natalie, not to me. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:51:20 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Yesteryear alyce cresap wrote: > > I remember being told that its real name was > > "Intersanctum." > > And you never thought of its meaning? You thought it was between > sanctums/sancti/sancta/whatever? It didn't occur to you that it was the > inner room? No. I was thought to be pretty at six or seven but not quite that smart. My parents did have a habit of quoting Latin at times -- why I don't know -- they would sometimes do conjugations and declensions -- laughingly. Looking back, I wonder why. But they stuck to the same few usually. Or sometimes they'd launch into "Omnia gallia [etc]." But somehow sanctum got left out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:54:35 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Winter clothes alyce cresap wrote: > > My goodness, gracious. I have not shopped often at Bloomingdale's, but > > I have observed on those few times I have shopped there that there are > > super bargains there. > > Well, of course you would know more about shopping in New York City than > I. Tushar, listen to Natalie, not to me. Huh? This was not advice to Tushar. I did not respond to his question because I know little about shopping in NYC. It was a response to whoever said that Bloomingdale's was expensive. Compared to dept stores in Mississippi and Alabama and Tennessee, it is definitely not expensive (for the same stuff). It would not have occurred to me to recommend Bloomingdale's to Tushar, however, since he could buy the same stuff in Chicago. It's a normal department store. Why not just go to Marshall Field? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:57:24 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Signs Karen wrote: > > Here's the blurb for the movie I'm seeing tonight: I saw Midnight Fly the other night from Netflix. It is quite good (and different). Two women travelling alone meet in France and then end up in Morocco in trouble (not pregnant) -- I mean dangerous trouble. It is partly in French and partly in English, and very weirdly so, because there are subtitles at first, but then they seem to be speaking English, again French. Odd. Neat scenery in Morocco, and a scary sequence. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:56:37 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Winter clothes Natalie Maynor wrote: > because I know little about shopping in NYC. It was a response to I can, however, recommend a good place to buy cow esophaguses. I'm trying to remember now the exact street. It's in the 80s. West of Broadway. It's a pet shop. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:00:07 -0400 From: alyce cresap Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Natalie Maynor wrote: > When "climate-control facitilies" are involved, I > think of it as simply a "store," not a "farmers' market." Around here, farmers' markets have climate-controlled facilities to keep certain of the produce fresher--berries, for example. Also cheeses. Lots of farmers bring in goat cheese. As Clyde said, you'll probably get them in years to come. alyce -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:00:27 -0400 From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor At 08:04 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, natalie wrote: >I must admit that I don't know Grandma M's biography. Then why did you bring her up? > But would it have >been or for her to have decided to take an aptitude test? yes. cwv -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:06:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in alyce cresap wrote: > As Clyde said, you'll probably get them > in years to come. We have them in stores. If I want to shop in a store, I will go to a store. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:08:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >I must admit that I don't know Grandma M's biography. > > Then why did you bring her up? Because the little I know about her suggests that she took a new direction late in life. Like Bethany is thinking of doing. Not everybody chooses to slump into the slough of old age without any desire to cultivate new interests or skills. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:13:32 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: The Statues Rita -- I suddenly remembered that I had taken some pictures of the first of the little houses with statues back a number of years ago and put them online. Here's the house that I don't think can be thought of as a ranch house even if the statues blew away: http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Hood/temple.jpg I don't like that nearly as much as a dark blue building that came later that also is donned with statues. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:05:02 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:13:35PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > Why do you think he's spoiled? > > Here I go plunging in ... What's that about "not speaking > to you" etc? Who does that? I don't remember if he was actually not speaking to me, but there were two days where I certainly wasn't going to ask him for a recommendation. > Actually, cancel that. I don't want to go plunging in ... Too late! Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:15:18 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Square Footage Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>What exactly do you consider funky details? >>> >> Asymmetrical features, porches, round rooms, dormers sticking >>out at odd angles, rooms added on as needed -- houses that >>have personality. >> > > I've never thought of those as regional. You can certainly find them in > Mississippi. I'm certain one can. They're only regional insomuch as they tend to show up in older neighborhoods. I just didn't see any examples of funkiness in the ugly houses you posted URL's for. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:17:08 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: The Statues I would classify that as funky and non-ranchy -- and itty bitty. I need to visit one of those shotgun houses some day to see how they're laid out -- they look no bigger than my livingroom. Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita -- I suddenly remembered that I had taken some pictures of the > first of the little houses with statues back a number of years ago and > put them online. Here's the house that I don't think can be thought of > as a ranch house even if the statues blew away: > > http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Hood/temple.jpg > > I don't like that nearly as much as a dark blue building that came later > that also is donned with statues. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:06:34 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? bonniev said: > >>Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > > >I don't feel like talking about her. > >BB > > Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! Your bad. I *DO*! Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:17:02 -0500 From: Natalie Maynor Subject: Re: Square Footage Rita Chapman wrote: > I just didn't see > any examples of funkiness in the ugly houses you posted > URL's for. The point of those houses wasn't about funkiness or desirability. I found the first one (the cottage) delightful. The others I didn't care for in any way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:11:42 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Returning to Adam Hartfield said: > Probably. I have no idea if any of my old credits are any good, or what any > transfer requirements would be. I'd want to transfer whatever credits I > earned up here back to Drew..I'd like to not have wasted $30K. It's talk-to-a-counselor time. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:21:50 -0700 From: Betty Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? At 07:06 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: >bonniev said: > > >>Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > > > > >I don't feel like talking about her. > > >BB > > > > Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! > >Your bad. I *DO*! > >Karen >doing my part to keep Austin weird And it's all about you, right? You've been posting like a spoiled child and I want to slap you. Betty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:12:35 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Eating out/eating in Natalie Maynor said: > "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Many > > such markets provide climate-control facilities (sometimes known as > > refrigerated coolers) to maintain the meat, etc., in decent > > condition. Perhaps one day this technology will reach Mississippi. > > I haven't been to a farmers' market in Mississippi since my early > childhood. I guess that one in Jackson still exists. What I call a > "farmers' market" is a place where farmers bring in their produce in > trucks and sell it either out of the backs of the trucks or in bins > inside a building. When "climate-control facitilies" are involved, I > think of it as simply a "store," not a "farmers' market." This is why we call you Mutant City. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:14:32 -0700 From: S Hess Subject: Re: The coddling of children > > It bothers me. I know the intention is to prevent kids from > getting their > > feelings hurt. But it's not preparing children for the real > world. It's the > > same with bowling. When we were kids, we bowled without benefit > of bumpers > > that ensured our knocking down a pin or two. It didn't kill us; > we remained > > emotionally intact. > > Fuck your real world. They're children. And many do not > remain emotionally intact. I have a fifteen-year-old right > now who has been abused by her father to such a point that > she's been taken away from her mother and placed in a group > home; she's also pregnant and was beat up by her boyfriend > the other day. Is that real enough for you? Is she now a > better person and "emotionally intact" enough for you? Not getting invited to a party is not child abuse. You cannot compare the two. > > I wonder if they have a new system for choosing sides of teams. > > > Why do you want children to be humiliated and cut down by > their peers on a daily basis? What purpose does that serve > in your real world? Is that the world you want to live in? > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman In the world in which you and I live, people are chosen based on their abilities or other qualities over others. In our jobs, and in other areas of our lives. I was nearly always chosen last when it came to sports in school. But it didn't mean I didn't have friends and it didn't mean I learned to hate sports or playing with others. Not being chosen is more often the case than being chosen. It's just like promoting the idea that everyeone is a winner. That's fake, too. Losing is not the worst thing that can happen to someone. Sandra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:23:40 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: How About This One? Natalie Maynor wrote: > Re driving through a state, I must say that your impression of > Mississippi is quite similar to my impression of Missouri. Basically > nothing to be impressed with one way or the other. I would agree with that assessment of Missouri. It has some charm, and it has grown on me, but I don't find it that impressive a place to live. Yes, I like cultural > centers. Actually, Mississippi has some pretty impressive cultural > stuff and always has. I don't mean it's always had the same stuff. But > it's always had quite a bit. Being the only US state to host every > howevermany years the International Ballet Competition is something that > has come along in the past twenty or so years. But there has always > been what you might consider in Mississippi. The number > of acclaimed writers from Mississippi is not really an accident. (And > I'm not talking now about people like John Grisham.) Sure it's the > poorest state in the country. And that means the worst literacy rate > and highest poverty rate. Those things go together. It is a fact that > blacks have not yet caught up with whites in literacy rates and economic > level. You can find that information in all kinds of sources. And that > fact is reflected in such statistics for a state with a racial ratio of > about 50-50. That's changing, of course. The black middle class is > growing every year. And, of course, Mississippi has its share of > wealthy black residents -- people like Morgan Freeman. But still the > statistics are race-related. Having the highest poverty rate in the > country might be evidence that it's not the kind of > you find desirable, but it says little or nothing about being a > . In addition to things I mentioned above like the > ballet, I daresay that the Delta Blues Festival is one of the most > significant annual events in the country. I know you love your home state, but a few cultural events does not a cultural center make -- most cities have some claim to fame in that department -- even that armpit of Ohio Youngstown. It may be a nice place to live for many reasons, though -- and certainly small town living and being out of the way can be a desirable thing. It just doesn't make for high property values in most cases. > Hmm. I thought you said in response to my not understanding why > somebody would say, "Why should I pay that for a 1000-sq-ft house when I > could buy a 2000-sq-ft house for that amount" something like "I'd find a > 1000-sq-ft house at a lower price." That led me to believe that you > were not interested in paying for anything other than space. Nope. I'm not interesting in over-paying for anything. > But you don't understand why anybody would pay as much for a small cute > house as a larger house would cost. Or so you said earlier. > No, I just don't see myself paying too much for something -- it may be cuter and more desirable -- I just would prefer something cute and desirable and appropriately priced. I buy sweaters the same way. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:24:35 -0400 From: bonniev Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? > > Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! > >Your bad. I *DO*! >Karen Yeah, well, I wanted to talk about the deeper meanings of "Chocolat" and what did that mean to you? Nada. --bonniev -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:16:47 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Signs S Hess said: [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > Here's the blurb for the movie I'm seeing tonight: > > > > "10/14 LES RIVIERES POURPRES (The Crimson Rivers) Dir: Mathieu > > Kassovitz (R: grisly images, language) A grizzled criminologist and a > > hipster detective must work together on a case involving serial > > killings and dark university secrets. Disturbing thriller with > > stunning shots of the French Alps from Mathieu Kassovitz, La Haine > > director and Amilie co-star." > > > > Karen > > Is this a new or oldish film? Newish. I loved it, and got to tell the directors of the film festival so (bathroom talk--gotta love it). Jean Reno is the guy from La Femme Nikita--I keep forgetting his name. He was fabulous. (Victor, The Cleaner) This should be rated G for Gory, but otherwise... The Alps scenery and the architecture is amazing. The snow should get a credit. Btw, I wouldn't exactly call the detective a 'hipster'. But I wouldn't call anyone a hipster. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:27:57 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: The coddling of children S Hess wrote: > Not getting invited to a party is not child abuse. You cannot compare the > two. > No, it isn't. But being ostracized and being humiliated and made to feel unloved, unwanted and worthless can have a similar effect. > >>>I wonder if they have a new system for choosing sides of teams. > In the world in which you and I live, people are chosen based on their > abilities or other qualities over others. In our jobs, and in other areas of > our lives. We are adults. We are not seven years old. I was nearly always chosen last when it came to sports in school. > But it didn't mean I didn't have friends and it didn't mean I learned to > hate sports or playing with others. Not being chosen is more often the case > than being chosen. It's just like promoting the idea that everyeone is a > winner. That's fake, too. Losing is not the worst thing that can happen to > someone. I choose not to share your world view. I choose to try to make sure children grow up emotionally healthy instead of damaged. Were I you, I wouldn't hold myself up as the pinnacle of being well adjusted, either. You've spilled too many beans here for that. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:18:47 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? Natalie Maynor said: > Betty wrote: > > > >Obviously you are not very widely read. Do you know > > >what crepuscular means, without looking it up? > > > > Oleander is squeezing Karen's pimples? > > Ugh. Think of what the dogs would do. Speaking of dogs... One of the dumb dogs next door ran in my house, under the closing garage door and into my kitchen. I opened the front door and it ran out again. It's very sweet, but I've known smarter birds. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:21:24 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > What's the Chicago connection to the Wizard of Oz?! > > I don't know, but they have a real yellow brick road in Sophia, > Bulgaria. You, of all people, I thought would know. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:24:06 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? Betty said: > At 07:06 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > >bonniev said: > > > >>Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > > > > > > >I don't feel like talking about her. > > > >BB > > > > > > Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! > > > >Your bad. I *DO*! > > > >Karen > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > And it's all about you, right? You've been posting like a spoiled child > and I want to slap you. Tushar loves me, so's all right in MY world. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:43:35 -0700 From: Betty Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? At 07:24 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: >Betty said: > > At 07:06 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > >bonniev said: > > > > >>Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > > > > > > > > >I don't feel like talking about her. > > > > >BB > > > > > > > > Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! > > > > > >Your bad. I *DO*! > > > > > >Karen > > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > > > And it's all about you, right? You've been posting like a spoiled child > > and I want to slap you. > >Tushar loves me, so's all right in MY world. > >Karen >doing my part to keep Austin weird Yeah, we know how much he is loved, but I'll stop picking on you now. I don't want you to grow up with problems that you can't over come. It's a cruel enough world out there. Betty -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:34:14 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:42:44PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > > Here is one reason why Patricia Barber is pissed off. > > Hm, maybe I posted this before, but anyway: > > I picked up a $1 demo CD at the record store one time, > and it contained tracks by 12 artists. So I come home > and before I play the stuff I bought I put on the demo. > > Every track except 2 sucks goats, and a few of them are > basically smooth jazz. I am sorry. Horrible, absolutely > horrible. Out of the 2, one is good but sounds sort of > too *trained* or something--not a criticism per se. And > then finally there is the P Barber track, which is the > only good one on that sorry-ass disc. > > There is a URL on the liner notes, saying vote for best > track, and since there is no question I go there and > click. Then it displays the "vote so far" and the winner > BY SEVERAL MILES is ... Scott Wilkie. Who on earth is > Scott Wilkie? I look at the disc and indeed there is > a Scott Wilkie on some track. Dang. I play it, and out > fly reams of dumb ass Walgreens music. They didn't just > not vote for the best, *they voted for the worst*. > > Well, one hopes Scott Wilkie has a dazzling career. I don't remember your posting this before, but I don't remember anyone talking about her here before. Ligniere and I heard her on the radio one night and got hooked. She has a great voice. And this is a great story, thank you. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:37:07 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Joke time! Nameless told me that today was a hard day at work today, and that there was a typo on the company calendar, so they were celebrating Colobus Day instead of Columbus Day... Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:39:57 -0700 From: S Hess Subject: Re: The coddling of children > S Hess wrote: > > > Not getting invited to a party is not child abuse. You cannot > compare the > > two. > No, it isn't. But being ostracized and being humiliated and > made to feel unloved, unwanted and worthless can have a > similar effect. Well, if you want to rule out children feeling that way about not being invited to a party, then shouldn't the rule be that one must invite all your classmates to one's party? > > >>>I wonder if they have a new system for choosing sides of teams. > > > In the world in which you and I live, people are chosen based on their > > abilities or other qualities over others. In our jobs, and in > other areas of > > our lives. > > We are adults. We are not seven years old. So, they still choose sides the same way we did as kids? Or do they handle it differently? How do they choose parts in school plays? How are children's feelings taken into account in these areas? > > I was nearly always chosen last when it came to sports in school. > > But it didn't mean I didn't have friends and it didn't mean I learned to > > hate sports or playing with others. Not being chosen is more > often the case > > than being chosen. It's just like promoting the idea that everyeone is a > > winner. That's fake, too. Losing is not the worst thing that > can happen to > > someone. > > > I choose not to share your world view. I choose to try to > make sure children grow up emotionally healthy instead of > damaged. > > Were I you, I wouldn't hold myself up as the pinnacle of > being well adjusted, either. You've spilled too many beans > here for that.> > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman I didn't "spill" them, I shared them. And, yes, I consider myself to be very well adjusted. I don't have any unwanted or untended children, I don't do drugs, I don't overindulge in alcohol, I haven't a line of ex-husbands, I'm self-supporting, I have a large circle of good friends in my life. And, generally speaking, I know when to use a comma vs. a semi-colon. I'm on good terms with all my family. I'm not doing too shabby, Rita. I'm not holding myself up as any Poster Child but I'm not ashamed to be me, either. Sandra -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:10:14 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Notes from my brother My brother who is currently stationed in DC wrote the following about the spree killings: "The average citizen is terrified. I was on duty and a woman sheltered behind a concrete pillar and then when the her bus came, ran, and I mean ran as fast as she could, to the bus stop and hopped aboard the bus. As for myself, I really haven't changed my habits all that much, but I was already paranoid." He also said he should be home in February, March at the latest. I hope so, too. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:28:59 -0700 From: Betty Subject: Baseball West Coast rules! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:18:43 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Useful Architectural Criticism by T-Bone alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > What's the Chicago connection to the Wizard of Oz?! > > I don't know, but they have a real yellow brick road in Sophia, > Bulgaria. Baum wrote "The Wizard of Oz" while living in Chicago. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:30:15 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:27:16PM -0700, Janet Hardy wrote: > >Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > Very good question, Janet-- > > > >And very good answer, Tushykins. > > Indeed. I have been trying to learn about/from people who do not > share my neurotic need to be liked, and Tushar seems to fit that > description rather nicely. Thanks, Tushar. I want to be liked! Just not by every single bozo, which is maybe what you mean. In which case, let me ask this--suppose some people you didn't know instituted an award for some random thing vaguely to do with you, nominated you with 9 others and judged you number 10. Would it feel like a bitter defeat? This all happens "out there", understand. You might not even have known. Would you feel a damn thing? Well, a lot of people's "not liking you" is in the same category IMO. Another point is about unclearly expressed dislike, which presumably hits harder ... You must pity the inarticulate fool instead of hurting. Because 99% of the time, said fool has completely stupid reasons--random association, residue of another hostility, faliure of nerve, etc etc, which has nothing to do with you. Such people are like flies on the windshield. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:22:18 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Oz This is the book that I read that provided me with the information about Baum: http://www.barbaradamato.com/hardroad.html. It was a so-so mystery, but a very good book. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:32:29 EDT From: Evelyn Duncan Subject: Re: Notes from my brother There's been another sniper shooting; this one in Falls Church, VA. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:36:44 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Signs On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:39:31PM -0400, bonniev wrote: > >and return to the garden of Eden where everyone is really > >smart, and weird, and mutually helpful, and assigns high > >coolness points to every concert or rave attended, dose > >"dropped", tediously "deviant" sex act indulged in, etc. > >When it topped its potential to derive fun from, I left. > >There are probably archives somewhere--in which case you > >could see for yourself. > > Was Borkin there with you? Borkin is not even HERE with me. But do rub all the salt you have got ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:38:03 -0400 From: Karen Subject: Re: Notes from my brother On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:32:29 EDT, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >There's been another sniper shooting; this one in Falls Church, VA. I know; I read Google news. (Which I really like, btw.) Karen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:44:21 -0600 From: "Elaine M. Brennan" Subject: Today's Travel Note I ran through Toronto this past weekend (and had no time to even think of calling Tony, never mind escaping from the hotel/convention center area, alas), but wanted to report my experience as a datapoint .... my passport got stamped both on entering Canada and again on leaving. Tony, dinner in mid-January? --Elaine -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:59:59 -0700 From: Janet Hardy Subject: fascinating book "Why God Won't Go Away" -- a study of the neurobiology of spiritual/transcendent experiences. Some of the most interesting ideas I've encountered in a long time. Janet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:36:00 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:43:35PM -0700, Betty wrote: > At 07:24 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > >Betty said: > >> At 07:06 PM 10/14/2002 -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > >> >bonniev said: > >> > > >>Have we talked about her? She's incredibly good. > >> > > > > >> > > >I don't feel like talking about her. > >> > > >BB > >> > > > >> > > Yeah, maybe we just don't want to talk about her, K@R3N ! > >> > > >> >Your bad. I *DO*! > >> > > >> >Karen > >> >doing my part to keep Austin weird > >> > >> And it's all about you, right? You've been posting like a spoiled child > >> and I want to slap you. > > > >Tushar loves me, so's all right in MY world. > > > >Karen > >doing my part to keep Austin weird > > Yeah, we know how much he is loved, but I'll stop picking on you now. I > don't want you to grow up with problems that you can't over come. It's a > cruel enough world out there. I am sure she is not joking, young lady. Now I want you to sit down and think about the whole thing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:45:06 +0200 From: steph Subject: Re: Square Footage Rita: = = Asymmetrical features, porches, round rooms, dormers sticking = out at odd angles, rooms added on as needed -- houses that = have personality. A house with statues on top may be funky, You would like my house. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:48:23 +0200 From: steph Subject: Re: The coddling of children On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 06:00:44PM -0700, S Hess wrote: = My brother, father of two young girls (first & third graders) enrolled in a = private, coed school, tells me there are new rules for inviting classmates = to birthday parties. It goes like this: you can invite two classmates...but = to invite more than two, you must either invite ALL your classmates or = invite all the girls or all the boys in your class. He found the rule So what happens to the parents who are willing to break the rule? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:46:34 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 07:34:14PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > I don't remember your posting this before, but I don't remember anyone > talking about her here before. Ligniere and I heard her on the radio > one night and got hooked. She has a great voice. That's undoubtedly true--the only way I have heard it is by getting so *&%*& drunk at the slam that it was useless to drive me out when her majesty (and admiring courtiers) arrived. Damn, $5 show, $5 J****ie W***er (bought out of shame) ... and no matter how "pop" of a band they place her in in the spectrum, it was spellbinding every time, no doubt about it. > And this is a great story, thank you. She's probably not really pissed off as such--but at least at some abstract level she must be. Or maybe we just LIKE to think she must be Angry Ind*****ent L***ian ... actually I don't know if any of this is true. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:52:52 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 09:50:33PM -0400, alyce cresap wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > My goodness, gracious. I have not shopped often at Bloomingdale's, but > > I have observed on those few times I have shopped there that there are > > super bargains there. > > Well, of course you would know more about shopping in New York City than > I. Tushar, listen to Natalie, not to me. Thanks, that's a great way to listen to both ... And now let's end this dumb charade shall we? We all know our blistered feet but follow the clew flung by the index finger of "Marie" ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:55:44 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Winter clothes On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:54:35PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Why not just go to Marshall Field? Because I always enter through the incorrect 90% of the doors and can't fight off the feeling of drowning among the perfumes, silks and chandeliers! Is that too hard to understand? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:58:06 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Yesteryear On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 08:51:20PM -0500, Natalie Maynor wrote: > My parents did have a habit of quoting Latin at times -- Ah, so did mine--not Latin, but you know. Which means I will achieve full mutancy in 7 years. And me without ever being to Europe! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:58:53 -0500 From: Tushar Samant Subject: Re: Johnson O'Connor On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:00:27PM -0400, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 08:04 PM 10/14/2002 -0500, natalie wrote: > > >I must admit that I don't know Grandma M's biography. > > Then why did you bring her up? > > >But would it have > >been or for her to have decided to take an aptitude test? > > yes. True talent comes unbidden from within. -- Atlantic Mothly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:49:21 -0700 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: Patricia Barber? Tushar Samant said: > That's undoubtedly true--the only way I have heard it is > by getting so *&%*& drunk at the slam that it was useless > to drive me out when her majesty (and admiring courtiers) > arrived. Damn, $5 show, $5 J****ie W***er (bought out of > shame) ... and no matter how "pop" of a band they place > her in in the spectrum, it was spellbinding every time, > no doubt about it. Are you telling me you've heard her in person? > > And this is a great story, thank you. > > She's probably not really pissed off as such--but at least > at some abstract level she must be. Or maybe we just LIKE > to think she must be Angry Ind*****ent L***ian ... actually > I don't know if any of this is true. I understand. Karen doing my part to keep Austin weird --------------------------------------------------------------------------------