From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 22:58:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ4wrTx030759 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:58:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F953E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:59:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 709925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:58:51 -0500 Received: from sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02.asp.att.net [204.127.203.184]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ4wpY07620 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:58:51 -0500 Received: from willows.meadowsedge.net (12-223-225-168.client.insightbb.com[12.223.225.168]) by sccmmhc02.asp.att.net (sccmmhc02) with ESMTP id <20031126043247mm2006qqhle>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:32:47 +0000 Received: from kiva.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by willows.meadowsedge.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 54859C3923 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:37:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:37:16 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty Message-Id: <20031125233716.6206bc2f.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC3DE80.148523D0@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> <20031125114359.07c3ce38.flint@kiva.net> <3FC3DE80.148523D0@maynor.net> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm trying. I found what might be a good email address for her after I tried sending a greeting to the Yahoo one; the Yahoo one bounced back after a few hours. But the one that I hope is good hasn't bounced yet. Is Lamplighter-with-internal-capitalization the memory handle that I'm filed under? -- Take care, Tom Lee My tea is not ready, but the sun has left the sky On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:58:08 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Keep up the good work, LampLighter! > > Tom Lee wrote: > > > > And the mydeardiary.com entry mentions that she was living near > > Pagosa Springs, > > Colorado at the time, so ... googling for '"dusty deal" pagosa' got me this: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/illuminati/message/2479?source=1 > > > > This has got to be her. She had a web page at the time, which seems to have > > gone away since. > > > > But I have my suspicions, after googling for "barbarianwench" run > > together ... > > > > http://www.leathercomau.com/leather_supply/Leather_Craft_tools_Buckles_rivets_zippers_industry/000088.html > > > > http://www.digitalcity.com/denver/bestcoffeehouses/main.adp?&ngb_notify=1&ngb_start=30 > > > > Both of these date to early 2003, so I believe she may be in the Denver > > area. I'm not giving up yet. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 23:28:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ5SFTx031194 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:28:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F95FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 0:28:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 711387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:27:35 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ5RYY11144 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:27:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:27:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:27:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:20 PM > figure out where to get small, cheap poinsettias to use as table > decorations for the ARF banquet, go visit the person in Tupelo, etc. Take a trip to Mexico. Poinsettias are native to the warmer clients - until the priests brought them to the masses (paronomasia unintended). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 23:29:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ5TBTx031210 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:29:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B8E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 0:29:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 712476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:28:03 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQ5R4Y11105 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:27:04 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:39:32 PST Message-ID: <20031126043932.84225.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:39:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: SSA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas > wrote: > > And I have never heard people say SS. > > Most people say Sossecurity. I've never heard anyone > say SS or SSA. > > Karen In police lingo (around here, anyway) it's soosh, or soosh number. It makes my skin crawl when I hear that. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 23:29:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ5TlTx031216 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:29:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B917@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 0:29:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 712726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ5TsY11501 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:29:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:35 PM > Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > > > Thanks. What's a hypo? > > > > A hypo is a hypoglycemic incident. It's when your blood > sugar drops too low. > > Eek. That sounds so or something. I don't like the thought of > my blood doing weird things. Next time I will not eat hot tamales > before going and will make sure I get to see the dropping of my blood > into the little glass. If you come across someone who seems passed out & you can't tell if it's hyper|hypo-glycemia, just remember: when in doubt, give sugar. Something under the tongue which will dissolve without causing them to choke. Even a sugar packet will frequently suffice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 25 23:33:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQ5XwTx031279 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:33:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B91E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 0:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 712852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:34:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ5Y5Y12009 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:34:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:33:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:06 PM > Adam Hartfield wrote: > > > Just eat them an hour before going, not 10 minutes. > > I don't really eat hot tamales very often. I was wandering by the > counter in Wmart where they were sitting and decided on a whim to buy > them and eat them for lunch. Egads. You ate food from a WalMart? Food at WalMart, KMart, Target, et al ranks up with toxic waste. The only thing worse is food from a Kwik-E-Market (e.g., hot dogs, cooked sandwiches) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuO001379 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F9BE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:41:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:05 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDf5Y04278 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126134100.OJZM1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4AD6D.F501EADA@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:41:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Browser? References: <109402858.20031126062858@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand > it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? Not unless the context is weird. But if you're writing something for the , keep in mind that Wordslers aren't necessarily representative. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuO001381 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F9AE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:46:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:46:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCkbY28895 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:46:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9AE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:46:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261246.hAQCkbY28895@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:46:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:35 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>-40 d F >>(winter nights in the North Country of the Adirondacks). >>clo > >And in Northern Wisconsin. That was the temp one February night when I was >up there hoping for a Aurora sighting. At 9 a.m., breakfast time, it was >still -16. We were surprised that the rental car started right up. But >then we had to rock it out of a snow bank. Winter is so much more mild >here in Unreal Maine. > > >bonnie So do have any little mnemonic for remembering -0F temps in Celsius? :-) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuO001378 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F9B16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:55:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:55:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCjNY28550 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:45:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQCiNwb002987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:44:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:45:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <20031126043932.84225.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031126043932.84225.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >In police lingo (around here, anyway) it's soosh, or >soosh number. It makes my skin crawl when I hear >that. I have not hard soosh, but I have heard sosh - mostly from admin flunkies. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuO001380 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001F9BE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:41:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDfZY04338 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQDf6sb011880 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:41:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:42:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1514342866.20031126074252@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Browser? In-Reply-To: <200311261320.hAQDKkY01863@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311261320.hAQDKkY01863@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:28:58 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand >>it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? >> >>Karen > I understand "point your browser to . > But in I prefer "web browser" as the name of the thing, not sure why. > Possibly to distinguish it from window-shoppers? I know--that's what I end up resorting to. But then I remind myself that other programs allow you to browse. For example, Windows Explorer lets you browse photos and documents. I really need the 'web' of 'web' browser, but I don't know why! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuP001380 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9DFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:55:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:55:08 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEt8Y14754 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:55:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY005COS3VQ5@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:51:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:51:03 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1d40321d7b43.1d7b431d4032@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've got you beat. :-) I am O-, the truly universal donor, and > on top > > of that I am cvt-negative, CMV. Cytomegalovirus. We've been through this before. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuP001378 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FA07C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:20:27 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f46.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGKQZ29841 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:20:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:20:21 -0800 Received: from 204.214.109.178 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:20:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.214.109.178] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:20:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2003 16:20:21.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[3062E930:01C3B439] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: >Speaking of New Haven, I've never had New Haven pizza. Is it as >good as it's supposed to be? I've had New Haven "apeez"* a few times when Emily lived in her old place. it was very good - thin crispy crust just the way I like it. * I can't remember the exact spelling but there's an "a' before the p in New Haven pizza. Did we talk about this in 1991? _________________________________________________________________ Say “goodbye” to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuQ001379 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FA0BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:28:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:28:48 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQGSmZ31112 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:28:48 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:28:48 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:28:40 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: A story about a parrot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQMdVuQ001379 I think I'll deliver this story at the table tomorrow. :-) BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/26/03 11:27AM >>> This was, of course, sent to me by a friend. Karen The Parrot John got a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot but the parrot got angrier and even ruder. In desperation, John threw up his hands; he grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remo rseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior." John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. He was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, when the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuQ001377 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FA3F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:13:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:13:24 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIDOZ17005 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:13:24 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQICbJ5024716 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hAQICbTg011554 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:12:37 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:12:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: A story about a parrot Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the Capital Food > Bank. So now the Capital Food Bank has a myriad Bangalore CSRs who can't solve problems unless they're scripted? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuQ001381 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FA6A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:53:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 752217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:53:41 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJreZ30388 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:53:40 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQJrcGn057234 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:53:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:53:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bonnie, if you starting drawing checks issued by the Social Security >Administration while you are still working, ... ... >Bethany Thanks. I didn't know that. You might be unique on this service in being a person who both earns wages and collects Social Security. Or does Natalie also collect Social Security? I don't think she's old enough. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuO001377 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9AFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:51:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:51:41 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQCpeY29611 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:51:40 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:51:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:51:13 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Browser? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQMdVuO001377 not if it is in context BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/26/03 07:28AM >>> Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuP001377 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9DEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:53:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:53:09 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEr8Y14480 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:53:09 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY00GINS0HJS@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:49:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:49:04 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1cb73e1c7b7c.1c7b7c1cb73e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>I fainted the last time I gave blood. It was a strange feeling. > >> > > > > Had you ever had any hint of anything like that before? That's > what's> so surprising to me -- the fact that I have never felt > anything at all > > during or after giving blood before.. I usually can hop right up after giving blood, but last time I did, I was overly confident and went to Taekwondo in the evening -- I think not the first time. I almost fainted there. Had to sit out after a while. Probaby not too smart. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuQ001378 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FA4D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:53:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 748680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:53:12 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIrCZ22297 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:53:12 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOZ00BFW357VP@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:49:07 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1b1dd31aad92.1aad921b1dd3@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looks awesome. I must make a road trip. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Kay Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:39 am Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > * I can't remember the exact spelling but there's an "a' before > > the p in New Haven pizza. Did we talk about this in 1991? > > apizza > > See > http://forums.egullet.com/index.php?s=221c03303aa1ae7d0ed4eb043bfdf79c&showtopic=14028 > for an explanation. > > Karen > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuP001381 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F9C4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:02:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:02:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQE2PY07768 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:02:25 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:02:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:02:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:39 AM > >Anything they do would be worthwhile if they would do what > they'd claimed > >they'd do in the current series: "no help". Yet they're > given money to go > >to town and are given an inflatable raft as well. If > they're going to > >survive, provide no water, no tools [at all], > > This is a total misunderstanding of what Survivor is all about. No, it's not. I'm stating how I'd like them to start off. I fully understand the politics involved. I'm of the belief that any time two or more persons are together, politics are involved, no matter what else is happening. The politics continue right up to the end because you have to choose your final opponent then let the other seven people choose between the two of you. Very serious politics. Sometimes people have made a very unwise choice of their final opponent because of incorrect presumptions which came out later (and they might have realized at the time if they'd paid attention). I am, however, curious to see if the "cliffhangers" they've been advertising for tonight live up to their billing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuP001379 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F9BD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:48:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:37 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDmaY05275 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:36 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Browser? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:21 AM > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:28:58 -0600, Karen Kay > wrote: > > >Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand > >it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? > > > >Karen > > I understand "point your browser to . > But in I prefer "web browser" as the name of the thing, not sure why. > Possibly to distinguish it from window-shoppers? I remember when we used to talk a lot about this type of thing - but some of it was before there was a web. I usually ask, "what browser do you use?" And I also say, "I received email messages." whereas the local news tends to use "I received emails". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 16:39:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQMdVuQ001380 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:39:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FA12A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:42:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGgtZ01163 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:42:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:42:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7784E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: It's Time Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:42:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 10:56 PM > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > How long was she > > > going to this Bear reserve in the RV? Surely it's > > > not for long. We > > > need her back soon. > > > > Ha! Bear Reserve. You see, she only went because she > > saw M. Rosen's post, and she wanted to find out for > > herself - badly. > > Actually, I don't think she was going to a bear reserve. I think she > was representing bears at another reserve. Her parting words, though, > were "Go Bears," which might mean she was trying to drive them away. Are you certain it wasn't a Bare Reserve and the words were "Go Bares" ? http://tinyurl.com/wnsx (I don't know where that ranks any more but it used to be in Guinness as the world's largest for a long, long time) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuO001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B929@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 0:42:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 713046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:35 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ5gZY12479 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:50 PM > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I'm glad I thought to call up God before my birth > > and ask to have Very > > Special Blood. Wish I'd added that naturally curly > > hair would be nice > > also. > > Life is so bizarre. You are more than welcome to my > loathed curly hair. The long ones or the short ones? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuO001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BAEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 2:06:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 717259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:06:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:VjB6IKdyps6QALhhIvEm6viC7seFzfyA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ764Y21000 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:06:04 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E497630610 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289D82334A for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:06:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <17abc2181633.18163317abc2@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:05:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:08 AM -0800 11/25/03, Marie Ascher wrote: >> combined with the Santa Fe lo these many years ago. On it, >> Bookrat inked in his monumental route from Bay Area to Okoboji to >> New England to Lexington. (What year was that?) > >1997 if I'm not mistaken. He made a stop in Brooklyn on our way to the >Philadelphia Folk Festival. Yes indeedy. One of the most glorious summers of my life. >> one dares not discard. And what did he name that homebrew -- >> Phatic Drivel Ale? > >Wasn't it a pilsner? Phatic Drivel Pilsner was one of the two beers I took to Wordstock. I think the other beer that I took there in my suitcase was named Headless Chicken Porter. The porter was pretty good, if I do say so myself, but the Phatic Drivel was, to this day, the best beer I have ever brewed. (Just beginner's luck; it was my first time brewing a real pilsner.) For the 1997 tour, I took the same two beers that I took to Missionfest. Neither of them was named, that I recall. There was a pale ale that was the crowd favorite, and then there was a Belgian-style witbier (brewed with wheat and coriander) that was seemed to find more favor with the cognoscenti than with hoi polloi. Ken Miller Poetaster Emeritus Anacreontic Academy of Zymomusicology From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuP001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BD3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:37:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:37:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQBboY05157 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:37:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQBbliM004439 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:37:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:39:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1868296791.20031126053904@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77833@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77833@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I'm not talking about the food in the grocery areas. I'm talking about the > food they are cooking and selling (on the spot) as though they are a > cafeteria|restaurant. Oh. Well, of course that sucks. > Now, we've got CiCi's pizza and Golden Corral. CiCi's is three or > four doors down from the large supermarket down the street and > promotes itself as an "all you can eat buffet". I went in there once > to see what it was like. They gave me a sample and I had to excuse > myself to find a trashcan outside. Smart move. Though I hear that the quality varies, I have not felt motivated to investigate. > As soon as someone comes in and tests my code, I'm on > holiday. YaY! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuP001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BCE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:08:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 721672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:08:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQB8FY03181 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:08:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQB8CUh002064 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:08:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:09:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15869356.20031126050930@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, that'll make a > great All-Star series. Eight people. Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuQ001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BD3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:39:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:39:13 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQBdDY05218 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:39:13 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:39:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77834@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:39:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:10 AM > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, > that'll make a > > great All-Star series. Eight people. > > Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. I said eighteen - others may have as well. Reread what I was responding to. There was an assertion that "notable people" should likely include only people who have won. In response, I stated what you've included. If only winners are noteworthy, then the All-Star game will consist of at most seven or eight people. Depending upon the final cast, some of the castaways indicate they are going for the unusual chemistry to see what happens. The fact they are monitoring people around the clock and can condense twenty-four hours to just over forty minutes means they can editorialize with whatever they've got. I don't think there's any disagreement their production efforts require the many weeks in advance to airing to create the story they want to tell. They're supposed to be in late production now and it won't air until the Super Bowl; usually the third Sunday (or so) in January so they've got plenty of time to play show-and-tell. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuQ001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BD39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:52:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:52:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQBqWY06027 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:52:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:52:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77835@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:52:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:39 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > I'm not talking about the food in the grocery areas. I'm > talking about the > > food they are cooking and selling (on the spot) as though they are a > > cafeteria|restaurant. > > Oh. Well, of course that sucks. What's really bad is when they offer samples when you enter the door. Smelling the food is bad enough. My first mission upon entering is to get beyond that area of the store. > > Now, we've got CiCi's pizza and Golden Corral. CiCi's is three or > > four doors down from the large supermarket down the street and > > promotes itself as an "all you can eat buffet". I went in there once > > to see what it was like. They gave me a sample and I had to excuse > > myself to find a trashcan outside. > > Smart move. Though I hear that the quality varies, I have not felt > motivated to investigate. I live in a town of 50k people who have a median income of $50k (likely more by now) and there's so much traffic in|out of CiCi's it clogs that section of the parking lot. There must be a lot of tightwads or a lot of people who have lost their sense(s) of taste+smell[1] > > As soon as someone comes in and tests my code, I'm on > > holiday. > > YaY! No kidding. The prez is the only one in at 6am. Most people are on vacation. I can't leave because there isn't anyone else who can fix the web code if it doesn't do what the testers think it should. [1] My first job involved two or three of us who had a rather good time (we tried to avoid doing so at any innocent party's expense unlike in college - I've been told I could write a book). My neighbor would get a cup of coffee, leave it on his desk, then go get printouts to analyze. I started doctoring his coffee with all sorts of concoctions and every time he didn't react so I had to keep upping the ante. One day, I was coming down the hall about the time someone opened the men's room door which was just across the hall from the morgue. Larry was about ready to step into the line of fire and I alerted him to the effect something wasn't doing very well smell-wise (I saw my first autopsy when I was fifteen, the second when I was nineteen. On my list of life's adventures|goals, I've made a negative entry: no more autopsies) He responded by reminding me of the brain surgery he'd had about a year before he started to work at the hospital. He'd had a tumor which needed to be removed. As a result, taste+smell were sacrificed. I didn't tell him what I'd done for a long time after, but I was ticked off because I'd wasted a lot of creative juices tampering with his coffee. I was almost ready to try something like ipecac. It's probably lucky for both of us I didn't try that. It's nasty stuff. My medical mentor would be poisoned by ipecac because it wouldn't cause him to produce any dinosaur calls so he had an alert tag warning people of that. Personally, I was a big fan of burned toast (activated charcoal). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuQ001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BD8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:17:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:17:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCHHY25963 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:17:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQCHEiM018072 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:17:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:18:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1773184163.20031126061831@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77835@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77835@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I live in a town of 50k people who have a median income of $50k (likely more > by now) and there's so much traffic in|out of CiCi's it clogs that section > of the parking lot. There must be a lot of tightwads or a lot of people who > have lost their sense(s) of taste+smell[1] Or people with kids. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuR001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BE04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:53:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:53:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCrsY29965 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:53:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F9ADC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:53:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261253.hAQCrsY29965@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:53:54 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:46:23 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm wondering about something. The same person who didn't bother to ask >me all the usual travel questions was the person who took the blood from >the finger for the sink-or-swim test. I was surprised that she put the >little glass that the blood drops into over on the other side of the >computer, out of my vision. Normally they do that right in front of >your eyes so that you can see what it does. I had warned her that mine >sometimes floated and to do the drop test before wasting time on the >questions. > >What I've been told about the sink-or-swim test is that it has nothing >to do with the value of your blood but only has to do with how you'll >feel -- that if it floats, you would feel bad after giving blood. I am >not at all one to be skeptical of such procedures, and perhaps this >thought I've been having is crazy. But could it be that my blood really >didn't sink in that vial -- that she just pretended it had?? If it >floated, would the symptoms I described have been what is meant by "it >would make you feel bad"? Interesting! I don't give blood - can't - so have never witnessed any of this. But if the density of blood is an indicator of likely symptoms (as in, perhaps, leading to quicker exit from the body for thinner blood, a sudden change in pressure in the system, hence dizzyness, I speculate???) then eating something that thins the blood might perhaps do this? One of the few quick acting things I could think of would be capsicum, which makes the heart speed up and might perhaps dilate the arteries? It is a fairly strong stimulant - so maybe hot peppers before giving blood might alter the system. >(If this were the Red Cross, I would of >course be skeptical. I know enough about their shenanigans to be quite >skeptical. But it was not the RC. It was United Blood Services. The >RC doesn't come here.) > Next you'll be saying that they don't do M & E prayers, or read the Collect! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuR001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BE25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:57:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:57:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCvbY30530 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:57:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77837@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:57:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:19 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > I live in a town of 50k people who have a median income of > $50k (likely more > > by now) and there's so much traffic in|out of CiCi's it > clogs that section > > of the parking lot. There must be a lot of tightwads or a > lot of people who > > have lost their sense(s) of taste+smell[1] > > Or people with kids. The only people I've seen going in|out with kids are one adult::multiple kids. There's a perfectly good Pizza Hut on the other side of the strip mall and...sorry, I needed to take a break from food talk for a moment to find a trash can. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuR001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BE29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:00:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:00:08 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQD07Y31082 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:00:07 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:00:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:59:56 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATuR001848 My understanding is that the drop of blood is put into a solution of copper sulfate which because of relative density gives an indication of the amount of iron in the blood. If the droplet floats you might be borderline anemic. I used to give blood - gave six gallons before they disqualified me because I have a boyfriend. BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 11/26/03 07:53AM >>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:46:23 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm wondering about something. The same person who didn't bother to ask >me all the usual travel questions was the person who took the blood from >the finger for the sink-or-swim test. I was surprised that she put the >little glass that the blood drops into over on the other side of the >computer, out of my vision. Normally they do that right in front of >your eyes so that you can see what it does. I had warned her that mine >sometimes floated and to do the drop test before wasting time on the >questions. > >What I've been told about the sink-or-swim test is that it has nothing >to do with the value of your blood but only has to do with how you'll >feel -- that if it floats, you would feel bad after giving blood. I am >not at all one to be skeptical of such procedures, and perhaps this >thought I've been having is crazy. But could it be that my blood really >didn't sink in that vial -- that she just pretended it had?? If it >floated, would the symptoms I described have been what is meant by "it >would make you feel bad"? Interesting! I don't give blood - can't - so have never witnessed any of this. But if the density of blood is an indicator of likely symptoms (as in, perhaps, leading to quicker exit from the body for thinner blood, a sudden change in pressure in the system, hence dizzyness, I speculate???) then eating something that thins the blood might perhaps do this? One of the few quick acting things I could think of would be capsicum, which makes the heart speed up and might perhaps dilate the arteries? It is a fairly strong stimulant - so maybe hot peppers before giving blood might alter the system. >(If this were the Red Cross, I would of >course be skeptical. I know enough about their shenanigans to be quite >skeptical. But it was not the RC. It was United Blood Services. The >RC doesn't come here.) > Next you'll be saying that they don't do M & E prayers, or read the Collect! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuS001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BE48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:07:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:07:22 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQD7MY32098 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:07:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126130716.NUMU1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:07:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4A585.2BB5F937@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:07:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <20031126024830.77803.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > For some unknown reason, the Animal Shelter and the > mysterious cat man want fraudulently obtained DNA > samples from you. Do not drop your guard. I think you may be onto something here. I saw the catman's cousin in his garage yesterday afternoon shortly after I returned from the strange blood experience. He was probably watching for me to see whether the plan was working. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuS001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:08:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:08:42 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQD8gY32218 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:08:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126130837.NUZY1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:08:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4A5D6.B2635C3B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:08:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <20031126025009.11835.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Life is so bizarre. You are more than welcome to my > loathed curly hair. I'm always amazed when I hear curly-haired people say they hate their hair. I'd take it in an instant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuS001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BE5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:13:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:13:03 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDD0Y00574 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:13:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126131254.NWSS1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4A6D7.60272F71@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:12:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <3FC3DB95.E7CDA6A@maynor.net> <3FC3F7DF.C17FDA38@maynor.net> <3FC3FA87.9070303@swbell.net> <3FC4082B.C68E8502@maynor.net> <3FC4088F.10109@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031125213124.00b486c8@pop.gwi.net> <35141048.20031125221240@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I misunderstood from the beginning--I thought Natalie was talking > about the candy, Hot Tamales. > > I've never heard anyone who eats them call them hot tamales, just tamales. I don't think I mentioned the candy in my first description. I've always called them hot tamales. But then I don't say fridge for refrigerator or oj for orange juice either. Or tuna for tunafish. I loved the hot tamales we ofen had in my childhood. I wonder what ever happened to Jack's Hot Tamales in Jackson. It was a tiny place -- a pick-up place, iirc -- as in nobody actually sat there to eat. We sometimes stopped by there on the way home from junior choir practice at church late on Thursday afternoons and got hot tamales to eat that night. Daddy adored them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuS001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BE63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:14:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDE6Y00783 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:14:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9B6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:14:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261314.hAQDE6Y00783@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:14:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:20:11 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I still don't feel totally normal. I hope I do by tomorrow since there >are many things I need to do tomorrow with ... > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Are you drinking enough liquids these days? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuT001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:17:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:17:30 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDHUY01358 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:17:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126131725.NYPP1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:17:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:17:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > And I have never heard people say SS. > > Most people say Sossecurity. I've never heard anyone say SS or SSA. I have never heard anybody say the initials SS or SSA. Nor have I ever heard sossecurity. People in my experience all say "social security" except in offfices or whatever when they're asking for your number, in which case many of them just say "What's your social?" The bloodsuckers have taken to asking for it right before they poke the needle in. I remember thinking yesterday that some suspicious people would not think it to be calling our your ss# with lots of other people listening. I could've memorized the ss numbers of those other blood donors yesterday and stolen their identities. Anyway, I'm pretty sure the bloodsucker didn't say "social" -- he said "state your full name and social security number." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuT001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:18:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:18:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDI9Y01438 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:18:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001F9B49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:18:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261318.hAQDI9Y01438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:18:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:05:58 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >At 8:08 AM -0800 11/25/03, Marie Ascher wrote: >>> combined with the Santa Fe lo these many years ago. On it, >>> Bookrat inked in his monumental route from Bay Area to Okoboji to >>> New England to Lexington. (What year was that?) >> >>1997 if I'm not mistaken. He made a stop in Brooklyn on our way to the >>Philadelphia Folk Festival. > >Yes indeedy. One of the most glorious summers of my life. > >>> one dares not discard. And what did he name that homebrew -- >>> Phatic Drivel Ale? >> >>Wasn't it a pilsner? > >Phatic Drivel Pilsner was one of the two beers I took to Wordstock. I >think the other beer that I took there in my suitcase was named Headless >Chicken Porter. The porter was pretty good, if I do say so myself, but the >Phatic Drivel was, to this day, the best beer I have ever brewed. (Just >beginner's luck; it was my first time brewing a real pilsner.) > >For the 1997 tour, I took the same two beers that I took to Missionfest. >Neither of them was named, that I recall. There was a pale ale that was >the crowd favorite, and then there was a Belgian-style witbier (brewed with >wheat and coriander) that was seemed to find more favor with the >cognoscenti than with hoi polloi. > >Ken Miller >Poetaster Emeritus >Anacreontic Academy of Zymomusicology I feel extremely unlucky not to have been on words-l in time to taste these delicacies. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuT001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:26:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:26:59 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDQxY02533 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:26:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126132654.OCXL1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:26:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4AA1F.6C8F7F70@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:26:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Egads. You ate food from a WalMart? Food at WalMart, KMart, Target, et al > ranks up with toxic waste. ? I don't know anything about KMart and Target since they don't exist here, but I find Wmart's food just fine. Except for the lunches I eat on campus during the normal workweeks, about 99.9% of the food I ingest comes from Wmart. Did I mention that our Wmart has started selling wasabi peas? I was delighted to find them a month or so ago. And yesterday I discovered that they now sell Kikko's instant miso soup. I bought two three-packs of it yesterday and am looking forward to consuming it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuT001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BE7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:19:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:19:52 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDJqY01733 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:19:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126131947.NZRT1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4A874.15065F39@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:19:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dusty References: <4.2.2.20031124181917.00a305e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC2CD3B.EAED1291@maynor.net> <20031124231828.4ae71fd9.flint@kiva.net> <3FC34575.83C3EA6D@maynor.net> <3FC34BCD.1070601@bc.edu> <20031125114359.07c3ce38.flint@kiva.net> <3FC3DE80.148523D0@maynor.net> <20031125233716.6206bc2f.flint@kiva.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tom Lee wrote: > > I'm trying. I found what might be a good email address for her after I tried > sending a greeting to the Yahoo one; the Yahoo one bounced back after a few > hours. But the one that I hope is good hasn't bounced yet. Good sign! It would be way cool if Dusty would return to Words-L. > Is Lamplighter-with-internal-capitalization the memory handle that I'm filed > under? Hmm. I think that was just a braino. I think my memory really has it filed as Lamplighter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuT001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:20:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:20:46 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDKkY01863 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:20:46 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001F9B82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:20:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261320.hAQDKkY01863@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:20:45 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Browser? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:28:58 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand >it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? > >Karen I understand "point your browser to . But in I prefer "web browser" as the name of the thing, not sure why. Possibly to distinguish it from window-shoppers? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuU001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BE95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:27:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:27:59 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQDRxY02672 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:27:59 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:54:24 PST Message-ID: <20031126125424.38745.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > > Life is so bizarre. You are more than welcome > to my > > loathed curly hair. > > The long ones or the short ones? Each, every and all, from each square inch of skin, including the scalp.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuU001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:29:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDToY02912 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQDTliM021173 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:29:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:31:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1224494030.20031126073105@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77837@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77837@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > The only people I've seen going in|out with kids are one adult::multiple > kids. Mais oui. > There's a perfectly good Pizza Hut on the other side of the strip > mall and...sorry, I needed to take a break from food talk for a moment to > find a trash can. I'm sorry. But surely you realize that Pizza Hut is more expensive? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuU001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BEAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:34:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDY7Y03388 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQDXcsb005383 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:33:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:35:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <375698045.20031126073524@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Nor have I ever heard sossecurity. Yes, you have. If you've ever heard a Washington politician talk about SS, that's how they say it. Alyce is the one who brought this to my attention. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuU001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BE9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:29:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDTjY02905 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126132940.OEGN1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4AAC5.2CC2C10E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:29:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <15869356.20031126050930@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, that'll make a > > great All-Star series. Eight people. > > Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. I thought Phil's point was that it couldn't very well be limited to just the past winners since that would be only eight people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuV001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BEBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:34:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:48 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDYmY03442 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126133443.OGSR1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4ABF4.A2200850@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:34:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77833@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I get out plenty and do purchase food from several types of grocery stores. > I think you misunderstood. There are actually a fair number of towns & > cities who are not permitting Walmart, SuperTarget, Meijer, et al. to set up > tents. My mother lives in a city of ~15k people and it's been understood > everyone is unified against any of the big boys to conduct business because > of the effect(s) those types of business would have on preexisting That kind of battle is well known, but exactly what does it have to do with toxic food? Iow, why does it mean there's anything wrong with the quality of Wmart's groceries? > I'm not talking about the food in the grocery areas. I'm talking about the > food they are cooking and selling (on the spot) as though they are a I have no knowledge of any cooking going on at our Wmart, though I do think there's a small area with tables, where I guess people can order food and eat. I've never smelled anything cooking there or seen exactly how food/drink might be procured in that room. I will pay more attention next time I'm at Wmart. I had thought of it as maybe something like a coffee shop. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuV001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BED1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:36:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:36:48 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDamY03824 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:36:48 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDakGn007729 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:36:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083535.00b8aa38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:36:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782B@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > figure out where to get small, cheap poinsettias to use as table > > decorations for the ARF banquet, go visit the person in Tupelo, etc. > >Take a trip to Mexico. Poinsettias are native to the warmer clients - until >the priests brought them to the masses (paronomasia unintended). Ah, that brought back a happy memory. The convent I was in, in Milwaukee, had its own greenhouse. At Christmas time the greenhouse was filled with poinsettia of every color. Very lovely sight. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuV001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BEBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:38:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:38:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDcdY04040 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:38:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDccAr091572 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:38:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083755.00ba4e90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:38:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Anything they do would be worthwhile if they would do what they'd claimed >they'd do in the current series: "no help". Yet they're given money to go >to town and are given an inflatable raft as well. If they're going to >survive, provide no water, no tools [at all], This is a total misunderstanding of what Survivor is all about. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuW001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BEBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:39:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:39:25 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDdPY04078 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:39:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126133919.OJBD1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4AD08.B877A3F0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:39:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Census Data References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77836@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad you returned to this dead bird since it reminded me that there were questions I was going to ask re census info, etc -- things MFTAOTL. But I'll save them for now. I need to move quickly through the rest of the mail before getting on with various projects. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuW001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BEC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:42:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:42:48 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDgmY04470 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:42:48 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDgkAr092296 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:42:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084223.00b9a4c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:42:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77834@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >They're supposed to be in late production now and it won't air until the >Super Bowl; usually the third Sunday (or so) in January so they've got >plenty of time to play show-and-tell. February this year. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuX001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BED6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:44:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:44:04 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDi4Y04680 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:44:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126134359.OLPK1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4AE20.26026AC9@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:44:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> >And why do you say I will get at least one? > >> > >> Because I think COLA will continue for a while. > > > >Why single me out? Many of us are around the same age. > > Please forgive me for singling you out. I apologize. I did it because it > has seemed very important to you that you get COLA raises re your pension > now that you are retired. I will try to remember not to single you out > again. ? Why are you apologizing? My question was one of simple curiosity. You act as if I was complaining about being singled out. I wasn't. I also haven't noticed that I'm any more interested in COLA raises than average. It's quite a reasonable thing to notice if you're about to retire on what would otherwise be a fixed income since the future might not be so fixed. So, yes, I have a reasonable interest in such matters -- but nothing like your intense interest in money. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuW001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BED7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:41:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:19 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDfIY04299 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDfHGn008346 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084059.00b91fd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:41:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <15869356.20031126050930@WordWrite.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, that'll make a > > great All-Star series. Eight people. > >Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. >Karen Yes, I did say that. And it is. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuX001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BEDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:45:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDjVY04901 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQDjSiM001434 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:45:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:46:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <394397187.20031126074646@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC4AAC5.2CC2C10E@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <15869356.20031126050930@WordWrite.com> <3FC4AAC5.2CC2C10E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, that'll make a >> > great All-Star series. Eight people. >> >> Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. > I thought Phil's point was that it couldn't very well be limited to just > the past winners since that would be only eight people. But it's based on the false premise that there have been 8 shows. And it hasn't been that many. It's illogical to think that it was only winners. "Survivor FAQ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Question: How many seasons have there been? Answer: The show first debuted in the spring of 2000, but they've packed in four seasons since then and as of this writing are a few episodes into Season Five." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuY001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BEF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:45:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:54 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDjsY04932 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: lotto scam Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:12 AM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: lotto scam > > > This morning I received this : > ----------------------------------------------- > Have any of you gotten this one? > BrP Here's a three sides around the barn answer: 1. Take a peek here: http://tinyurl.com/wmpr I used "Joseph Finn" as my search text and had a couple of hits. Generally, anything in nanae (news.admin.net-abuse.email) or nanas (news.admin.net-abuse.sightings) indicates you're dealing with scumballs. 2.a. Take the provided domain name (linkfinanceandtrustltd.net) and ping it: 216.136.232.176 2.b. Go to http://www.spews.org and enter 216.136.232.176. You should receive "This IP address was found in SPEWS." as a response along with "Click here to see the data/evidence file.". SPEWS is the nastiest block|black list against spammers. Admins who use SPEWS for blocking junk block *lots* of junk (and the occasional false negative). In all seriousness, take a peek at the "Click here" to see the evidence collected in that file (this is a small sample): [66.218.65.94] http://log-paypal.com (stealing from PayPal/eBay customers) (dead) [66.218.65.95] http://cgi3-ebay.us (stealing from PayPal/eBay customers) [66.218.65.97] http://cgi5-verify.us (stealing from PayPal/eBay customers) [216.188.92.148] http://www.ebay-register.info (stealing from eBay customers) (dead) over time, SPEWS will push the IP address one level higher so everyone receiving from that level will bounce and those users will complain. The goal is that enough "good" users will complain loudly enough that the sysadmins will isolate and disconnect the spammers. The ISP's sysadmins have tried to negotiate to only isolate the troublemakers but that doesn't stop the trash, hence the severity of the actions. Lots of people will appear in nanae and either 1) ask to be removed because the spammers have been removed (usually a lie as people check); or 2) beg forgiveness because it's killing their business. That's when the response is, "When you terminate the spammers and it's validated, we'll remove you. Not a moment before." You'd be surprised how many people who don't understand how "the game is played" will come in hot & heavy, making all sorts of demands, threats, etc. Before long, they're ignored, they leave, then return, hat in hand until they find out what they'll have to do to be removed - and it's not unusual for them to beg off the punishment because they don't want to disconnect a "prized" customer. Some will even tell their customer to lay low for twenty-four hours until they're out of SPEWS and they start back up. They will generally get that one spam batch started before they're back in SPEWS. After that, the ISP will have to permanently disconnect the garbage truck ("fool me once...") and they *really* hate to disconnect the gravy train. (I can only imagine what those meetings are like: "Dude, we're going to have to cut you off. They're claiming you're spamming and they're blocking all of our email. We have to cut you off or lose everyone's business." "But you didn't tell us anything in advance...") At this point in time, the Federal law about to go into effect Jan 1, 2004, will be as effective as using a spoon to hold back the ocean during a hurricane. I can reassure you, however, that the antis will not alter any of their practices to halt the activities of those attacking their domains. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuY001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:52:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:52:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDqEY05921 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:52:14 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDqBAt094118; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:52:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126085105.00b68b18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:52:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Browser? In-Reply-To: <109402858.20031126062858@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:28 AM 11/26/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand >it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? Yes. Otherwise I'd wonder why someone would want me to point an artiodactyl at . cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuX001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:51:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:51:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDp7Y05743 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:51:08 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:51:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:51:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:31 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > The only people I've seen going in|out with kids are one > adult::multiple > > kids. > > Mais oui. > > > There's a perfectly good Pizza Hut on the other side of the strip > > mall and...sorry, I needed to take a break from food talk > for a moment to > > find a trash can. > > I'm sorry. But surely you realize that Pizza Hut is more expensive? Price is a secondary issue when flavor|taste has|have been compromised. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuY001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BF32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:55:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:55:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDtUY06438 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:55:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQDtRUh013402 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:55:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:56:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1703720423.20031126075645@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Spam or not? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't decide. I often get e-mail for other people @wordwrite.com. These people in Hong Kong have been sending e-mail for Tom off and on for about six months. Karen Return-Path: X-Original-To: tom@wordwrite.com Delivered-To: karen@mauve.rahul.net Received: from mauve-pf2.rahul.net (popmx1.rahul.net [192.160.13.28]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B452B57D for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:11:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from imsm032.netvigator.com (unknown [218.102.21.33]) by mauve-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 593662B8F1 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 714 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 13:11:31 -0000 Received: from pcd443245.netvigator.com (HELO jimmy) (203.218.233.245) by imsm032.netvigator.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 13:11:31 -0000 From: "james" To: "'Don Chow'" , , "'Tom Braithwaite'" Subject: [spam] RE: Thursday Tennis Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:18:10 +0800 Message-ID: <000001c3b41f$bd88c970$727ba8c0@jimmy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3B462.CBAC0970" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031126114323.21374.qmail@mail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Status: O X-Text-Classification: spam X-POPFile-Link: I supose I can jimmy yes i'm going!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Osborne" Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:51:12 +0800 To: "James Chow" ,"Tom Braithwaite" , Subject: Thursday Tennis Hi Guys, Would you like to play tennis at the country club on tomorrow nite? Jon -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuY001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BF56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:58:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:58:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDwkY06897 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:58:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQDwhUh015623 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:58:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:00:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1233322582.20031126080002@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:31 AM >> On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> > The only people I've seen going in|out with kids are one >> adult::multiple >> > kids. >> >> Mais oui. >> >> > There's a perfectly good Pizza Hut on the other side of the strip >> > mall and...sorry, I needed to take a break from food talk >> for a moment to >> > find a trash can. >> >> I'm sorry. But surely you realize that Pizza Hut is more expensive? > Price is a secondary issue when flavor|taste has|have been compromised. Says someone who is clearly not poor... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuZ001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:57:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:57:38 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDvcY06778 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:57:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:57:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:57:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:35 AM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > I get out plenty and do purchase food from several types of > grocery stores. > > I think you misunderstood. There are actually a fair > number of towns & > > cities who are not permitting Walmart, SuperTarget, Meijer, > et al. to set up > > tents. My mother lives in a city of ~15k people and it's > been understood > > everyone is unified against any of the big boys to conduct > business because > > of the effect(s) those types of business would have on preexisting > > That kind of battle is well known, but exactly what does it have to do > with toxic food? Iow, why does it mean there's anything > wrong with the > quality of Wmart's groceries? I have not asserted anything about anyone's groceries. I purchase from a number of different grocery stores and not just the ones we have here with carpeted floors. I've made mention of the prepared food you sit & eat at KMart, Target, and the ilk. I would put those on par with gas station hot dogs & sandwiches, Golden Corral, and CiCi's. Holly has never eaten at White Castle (and doesn't want to start) so she can't counter my assertion regarding where the various prepared foods ran by comparison. And there are times when White Castle is easy to find: 2:30am-3:00am, just look for lines of 20+ cars. They're stopping for food on the way home after the bars close. > > I'm not talking about the food in the grocery areas. I'm > talking about the > > food they are cooking and selling (on the spot) as though they are a > I have no knowledge of any cooking going on at our Wmart, though I do > think there's a small area with tables, where I guess people can order > food and eat. I've never smelled anything cooking there or > seen exactly > how food/drink might be procured in that room. I will pay more > attention next time I'm at Wmart. I had thought of it as maybe > something like a coffee shop. This is killing me. Thinking about the quality of these foods and dealing with the hangover. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuZ001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BF64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:00:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDowY05712 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:50:58 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQDnvwb018912 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:49:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:50:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC4AE20.26026AC9@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> <3FC4AE20.26026AC9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >? Why are you apologizing? Because you sounded quite annoyed, demanding to know "why." >also haven't noticed that I'm any more interested in COLA raises than >average. I don't recall its being mentioned by others on this . >not be so fixed. So, yes, I have a reasonable interest in such matters >-- but nothing like your intense interest in money. Ah, so your interest in money is reasonable, but mine is not. How do you know my level of interest? What is your level of interest? (Reasonable does not exactly specify level of interest.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuZ001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:04:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:04:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQE4OY08118 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:04:24 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:04:19 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: It's Time Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:04:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:41 AM > >I have a friendly wager with a friend of mine regarding > osteoporosis & > >whatnot. > > > >The US consumes far more calcium in food or dietary > supplements but their > >bodies contain far less than those in other countries who do > not consume > >very much. I'm guessing there are other factors at hand which either > >prevent the calcium from being processed & absorbed or is > causing it to be > >leeched. > > So what is the wager and how will it be won? It's a "friendly wager" (read above) - I'm not staking anything on it - it's a gentleman's wager. It'll be won when they finally research it correctly. Holly will not bet with me for two reasons: 1) I have inside information; 2) I have the ability to affect the outcome. In this case, it's neither. But she still refuses to bet with me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATua001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BFAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:11:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:11:54 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEBsY08991 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:11:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:11:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77842@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:11:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:00 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:31 AM > > >> On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> > The only people I've seen going in|out with kids are one > >> adult::multiple > >> > kids. > >> > >> Mais oui. > >> > >> > There's a perfectly good Pizza Hut on the other side of the strip > >> > mall and...sorry, I needed to take a break from food talk > >> for a moment to > >> > find a trash can. > >> > >> I'm sorry. But surely you realize that Pizza Hut is more expensive? > > > Price is a secondary issue when flavor|taste has|have been > compromised. > > Says someone who is clearly not poor... Present tense, but that doesn't include past tense. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATua001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BFBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:13:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 728028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQED9Y09187 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQECesb007132 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:12:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:14:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <898366002.20031126081425@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77841@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77841@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > It's not a false premise. I skewed it high for a buffer. The assertion was > that the only people who would be worthy of an All-Star series would be > previous winners. This is a silly assertion. Some of the most popular people didn't win--and this is definitely a popularity contest. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuZ001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BF76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:04:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:04:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQE4rY08177 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:04:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQE4oUh020293 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:04:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:06:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1184892101.20031126080608@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Browser? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126085105.00b68b18@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126085105.00b68b18@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:28 AM 11/26/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand >>it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? > Yes. Otherwise I'd wonder why someone would want me to point an > artiodactyl at . I know that you've been longing to use this word in conversation, but I must confess I don't get the joke. MWD dates to 1879 (but provides no cite) and defines it as " any of an order (Artiodactyla) of ungulates (as the camel or pig) with an even number of functional toes on each foot". I think there's a poem in there somewhere. An ungulate is "a hoofed typically herbivorous quadruped mammal (as a ruminant, swine, camel, hippopotamus, horse, tapir, rhinoceros, elephant, or hyrax) of a polyphyletic group formerly considered a major mammalian taxon (Ungulata)" I like that word, polyphyletic. Is it the herbivorous part that makes this funny? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATub001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C082@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:41:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 729759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:41:09 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEf9Y12506 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:41:09 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:41:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77843@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:40:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:14 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > It's not a false premise. I skewed it high for a buffer. > The assertion was > > that the only people who would be worthy of an All-Star > series would be > > previous winners. > > This is a silly assertion. Some of the most popular people didn't > win--and this is definitely a popularity contest. But **I** didn't make the assertion. I can dig the message up if you'd like. I said there were eighteen and they would likely be making choices based upon prior performance or likelihood of contribution of chemistry to this mix. It was then said someone like Rupert wasn't a true survivor and as a result shouldn't be included in an All-Star series. That's when I said, "How many series have there been? Seven? Eight? If you only pick the people who have won, you're looking at a small All-Star series. The fact [that] fewer than seven series have taken place simply begs asking my question again. How many? Five? Six? If those numbers are correct, it's an even smaller All-Star series. That's why I've asserted all along chemistry is the important factor. Colby added chemistry although he placed second and Tina slipped in under the radar to finish first but I don't think she added chemistry along the way; if she did, it was subtle. And I don't know if they're going to place much emphasis on several subtle participants vs. some who will really put a stick in the beehive and keep it lively. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the characters are being brought back because they've been down the path, shaking the bushes together (it's been rumored to have been occurring more than the producers would like to let on). I think if they handle the All-Star casting correctly, it truly could make for an interesting showdown. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATub001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C00C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:28:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 728927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:28:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQESrY10951 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:28:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQESOsb021086 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:28:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:30:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <910242535.20031126083010@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Browser? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126085105.00b68b18@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126085105.00b68b18@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:28 AM 11/26/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand >>it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? > Yes. Otherwise I'd wonder why someone would want me to point an > artiodactyl at . FWIW, I would never willingly write 'point your browser' to or at anything. I keep wanting to pick up the hapless shopper and direct them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATub001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C09D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:45:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 729961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:45:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEjOY13001 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:45:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQEjLiM017257 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:46:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1604019921.20031126084639@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77843@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77843@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > But **I** didn't make the assertion. I can dig the message up if you'd like. > I said there were eighteen and they would likely be making choices based > upon prior performance or likelihood of contribution of chemistry to this > mix. It was then said someone like Rupert wasn't a true survivor and as a > result shouldn't be included in an All-Star series. No, Osten--who quit. That's why Natalie said that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuc001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C086@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:46:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 729984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:46:03 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEk2Y13108 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY005BCROQQS@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:41:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:41:58 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Worrying about TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1941f618fb33.18fb331941f6@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Bookrat > >1997 if I'm not mistaken. He made a stop in Brooklyn on our way > to the > >Philadelphia Folk Festival. > > Yes indeedy. One of the most glorious summers of my life. It was good for me too. FRFF, PFF and capped off with the meeting of Bruce at Great Big Sea. > For the 1997 tour, I took the same two beers that I took to > Missionfest.Neither of them was named, that I recall. There was a > pale ale that was > the crowd favorite, and then there was a Belgian-style witbier > (brewed with > wheat and coriander) that was seemed to find more favor with the > cognoscenti than with hoi polloi. Proud to be counted among the cognoscenti. I could go for a Boo Beer right about now -- okay it's a little early but... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuc001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:58:44 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQEwiY15123 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:58:44 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:58:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:58:32 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATuc001846 The only time I ever felt faint after giving blood was the first. I was a college student and it was back in the days when the glass bottle was hanging just where you could watch it fill. My friend Norman and I went to donate at the same time. We had a pretty competitive friendship and when we got stuck at the same moment it was clear that we had to have a race to see who could fill up the bottle faster. I won, but I also passed out. - a lesson BrP >>> 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET 11/26/03 09:49AM >>> > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>I fainted the last time I gave blood. It was a strange feeling. > >> > > > > Had you ever had any hint of anything like that before? That's > what's> so surprising to me -- the fact that I have never felt > anything at all > > during or after giving blood before.. I usually can hop right up after giving blood, but last time I did, I was overly confident and went to Taekwondo in the evening -- I think not the first time. I almost fainted there. Had to sit out after a while. Probaby not too smart. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuc001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C17A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:21:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 732237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:21:36 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQFLa318285 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:21:36 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY00FCFTBZKB@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:17:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:17:31 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1c91cc1cc09a.1cc09a1c91cc@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > Espen Ore wrote: > > I don't think I have ever had NYC pizza - but I have had very > good New Haven pizza. > > Do NYC and NH have only one kind of pizza (each)? If I've eaten pizza > in NYC (which I have), does that mean I've eaten NYC pizza? Yes, probably, but there are some which are truly . In NYC, there's Lombardi's, Totonno's, Patsy's and John's (plus others, and a bunch of good slice places). But there's some not-so-good pizza too. In New Haven there are several places, names of which aren't permanently stored in my head (Pepe's? maybe...). Actually, this reminds me of a funny coincidence. When Bruce and I lived on 76th Street, we got our pizza from a place called New York Pizza Co. When we moved up to Westchester, we found a place we like sort of randomly (and there are very many -- we live in a hugely Italian area) named Annuzelli's. So, we've been eating this Annuzelli's pizza for several years now, and last time we were in, we noticed the pizza man was wearing a NYPC shirt, so we commented. He had worked there until just about the time we moved and started working at Annuzelli's just about the time we started eating from there. No wonder we like it so much! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuc001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C1A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:22:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 732412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:22:55 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe27.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQFMt318779 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:22:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:22:50 -0800 Received: from 199.174.0.19 by law9-oe27.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:22:49 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.0.19] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Horn o' Plenty Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:23:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2003 15:22:50.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[27486940:01C3B431] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU La Familia de Meeberos Primeros has been merrily rolling along this week, preparing an array of delectables and being verily thankful for the plentitude that has become our lives. We will have the Thanksgiving Day meal at home but will visit parents today and Friday to round out the festivities. May you all similarly enjoy this week in whatever way suits you best. JMW, AS and CS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATud001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C26E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQFpm323003 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:51:48 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77847@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: It's Time Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:51:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Rashmi Murthy [mailto:rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:08 PM > >One of my 57-year-old friends (now 58 or 59 I think) > >sat down on March 1st > >at a wedding reception onto the spot on the floor > >where her chair had > >recently been. She broke her hip. Wow. You don't > >want to do that. Two > >months of therapy at her home while she couldn't go > >to work. A walker, > >then crutches, then a cane. She still has a bit of > >a limp. > > Geeze, bonnie, thanks for scaring the heck out of me. > My mom is this age and leads a busy and active life but > people there don't seem as worried/concerned about > broken hips, bones etc. Here (on Words-L) I sense a > deep interest bordering on obsession with the subject. > > Are folk in other parts of the world (hi Espen, Kristin) as > informed about fosomax, osteoporosis and aging bones? Has anyone else read the speculation older African-American ladies are less prone to broken hips because they tend to wear more padding on that portion of their bodies? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATud001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C298@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:56:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:56:53 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQFur323580 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:56:53 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:56:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:56:51 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: It's Time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATud001848 Nope but it sounds plausible that the padding-challenged might be more vulnerable to breakage BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 11/26/03 10:51AM >>> Has anyone else read the speculation older African-American ladies are less prone to broken hips because they tend to wear more padding on that portion of their bodies? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATud001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C1F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:31:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 733183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:31:07 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQFV7320297 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:31:07 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:33:16 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2NVWW; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:33:12 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031126163016.07be0470@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:30:59 +0100 Subject: Re: lotto scam In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:12 26.11.2003 -0500 skrev Paul Barfoot: >This morning I received this : >---------------------------------------------- >FROM: THE PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT >----------------------------------------------- >Have any of you gotten this one? >BrP Not that one exactly but quite a few others - with prizes in Euro. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATue001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C3F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQGQcZ30708 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:27 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATue001845 It's not a matter of not mentioning. It's a matter of lying on a form that I put my signature to. I'm not willing to do that. They do ask the question and you have to check "yes" or "no" BrP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 11/26/03 11:19AM >>> >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Barfoot >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:00 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood > > >My understanding is that the drop of blood is put into a >solution of copper sulfate which because of relative density >gives an indication of the amount of iron in the blood. If >the droplet floats you might be borderline anemic. I used to >give blood - gave six gallons before they disqualified me >because I have a boyfriend. > >BrP > > Don't mention the boyfriend. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATue001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C3E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGQ7Z30641 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQGQ5Uh001292 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:26:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1259960998.20031126102723@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: A story about a parrot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was, of course, sent to me by a friend. Karen The Parrot John got a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot but the parrot got angrier and even ruder. In desperation, John threw up his hands; he grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remo rseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior." John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. He was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, when the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATue001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C3F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:27:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:27:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGRQZ30847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:27:26 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:27:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77848@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: It's Time Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:27:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:56 AM > --- Betty wrote: > > Listen up, 'Al. William doesn't have to be the best > > speller. > > Yeah, BB, but 0? He'll have to sign his name some day. You mean this: doesn't work any more? XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXXXXXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX XXX From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuf001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C435@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 738726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:33:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGXvZ32000 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:33:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQGXt2f031738 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:33:55 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQGXsJC031704; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:33:55 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126082859.00b8ca40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight In-Reply-To: <200311252310.hAPNA5Y08378@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:10 PM 11/25/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:54 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > >> It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with the German > >> houseguest to talk abt the weather! > > > >So how are things going with the German houseguest? > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Well. He's intelligent, interesting, good-mannered, and adaptable. And he >clearly adores my daughter. > >clo What more is there? Does he have a sense of humor? That is important. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuO001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BC5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 5:05:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 720564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:05:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQA5EY31476 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:05:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:05:09 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77832@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: It's Time Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:05:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:22 AM > bonniev wrote: > > > confuse HRT and Fosomax. I distinctly remember you > pooh-poohing the whole > > osteoporosis thing. In any case, congratulations for accepting the > > I have never pooh-poohed the whole osteoporosis thing. You > are perhaps > remembering something I said one time about refusing HRT -- > about how I > realized that I might keel over with a heart attack and smash all my > bones on the sidewalk. Iow, I realized the risks of not taking HRT > (though the heart attack thing turned out to be erroneous). > > > sensible. Do you take it once a week? Any problems? I have a friendly wager with a friend of mine regarding osteoporosis & whatnot. The US consumes far more calcium in food or dietary supplements but their bodies contain far less than those in other countries who do not consume very much. I'm guessing there are other factors at hand which either prevent the calcium from being processed & absorbed or is causing it to be leeched. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuf001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:54:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 740177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:54:06 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGs5Z03193 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:54:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:54:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77851@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A story about a parrot Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:54:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone else think of WKRP when they read that? > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:47 AM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: A story about a parrot > > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I think I'll deliver this story at the table tomorrow. > > > :-) > > Ah, a new home! Fitting, because the person who sent this will be at > dinner tomorrow, so I can't tell it. > > Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the Capital Food > Bank. That is a shitload of turkeys. > > Karen > > > > > >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/26/03 11:27AM >>> > > This was, of course, sent to me by a friend. > > > Karen > > > The Parrot > > > John got a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude > and an even > > worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, > > obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to > change the > > bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, > playing soft > > music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's > > vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the > parrot. The > > parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot but the parrot got angrier > > and even ruder. In desperation, John threw up his hands; he grabbed > > the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot > > squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was > total quiet. > > Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the > > parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The > parrot calmly > > stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may > > have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely > > remo rseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully > intend to > > do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior." > > John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. He > was about to > > ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, > > when the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?" > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuP001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BCF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:06:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 721618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:06:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQB69Y02969 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:06:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQB67Uh001626 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:06:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:07:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <802530486.20031126050724@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Egads. You ate food from a WalMart? Food at WalMart, KMart, Target, et al > ranks up with toxic waste. I think you need to get out more. Walmart and Target are in the grocery biz bigtime. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuP001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BCDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:04:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 721596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:04:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQB4AY02792 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:04:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQB47Uh000929 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:04:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 05:05:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1093713977.20031126050524@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: SSA In-Reply-To: <20031126043932.84225.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031126043932.84225.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > In police lingo (around here, anyway) it's soosh, or > soosh number. It makes my skin crawl when I hear > that. Why soo instead of so? That's very odd. I guess SSI would be soooooeey. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuP001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BD32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:33:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:33:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQBXBY04960 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:33:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77833@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:33:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:07 AM > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > Egads. You ate food from a WalMart? Food at WalMart, > KMart, Target, et al > > ranks up with toxic waste. > > I think you need to get out more. Walmart and Target are in the > grocery biz bigtime. I get out plenty and do purchase food from several types of grocery stores. I think you misunderstood. There are actually a fair number of towns & cities who are not permitting Walmart, SuperTarget, Meijer, et al. to set up tents. My mother lives in a city of ~15k people and it's been understood everyone is unified against any of the big boys to conduct business because of the effect(s) those types of business would have on preexisting businesses which are doing well on the part of local folks. One of the tactics I heard about there and have read about since is they will bring in a scaled-back operation so they aren't "overwhelming" the status quo. So far, that's been, "no, thanks." The issue of price competition is one thing, the other is once they've got their foot in the door, it's easier for them to ramp up to a larger size (on one or more cycles) than it is to come in all at once. Those businesses are climbing all over each other to put stores in where the county has 30k-50k people at most except during the summer when the "lakers" come in and the population doubles. When the big stores have requested town meetings, people have asked why all of these stores are so gung-ho to compete against each other for no more of a consumer base than those numbers. The most common response is, "We just want to provide consumers with the best offers possible." It's been said people attending those meetings smell something and it's not a pie warming in the oven to be served after those meetings. I'm not talking about the food in the grocery areas. I'm talking about the food they are cooking and selling (on the spot) as though they are a cafeteria|restaurant. That's why I made mention of things such as sandwiches and hotdogs at Kwik-e-Marts. Those hot dogs could be sitting there for days, if not weeks. I don't think I'd even purchase them and offer them to my dogs, even as much as they like hot dogs. I had a black schnauzer named Keokee who had an iron-clad stomach and would even eat habeneros but I wouldn't inflict that type of food on her. Now, we've got CiCi's pizza and Golden Corral. CiCi's is three or four doors down from the large supermarket down the street and promotes itself as an "all you can eat buffet". I went in there once to see what it was like. They gave me a sample and I had to excuse myself to find a trashcan outside. Golden Corral seems to need the slogan, "Home of the gristleburger". Low price / high volume has its place and sometimes it doesn't. Then again, I'm sitting & thinking about this stuff with a methadone hangover|rebound so all food smelled|tasted|thought of is pretty gross at the moment - the headphones have to come off when the tv has a food ad on. As soon as someone comes in and tests my code, I'm on holiday. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATug001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C54F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:40 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQH5eZ05524 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 23611 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 17:05:35 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-9.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 17:05:35 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD29FD8 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:35 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1069866335!741525 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A story about a parrot Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:35 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c3b43f$8227c690$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77851@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What was really scary, one of the Philly radio stations was advertising a turkey drop. I am not sure of the details. alec >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Paxton >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:54 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: A story about a parrot > > >Anyone else think of WKRP when they read that? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:47 AM >> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Subject: Re: A story about a parrot >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > I think I'll deliver this story at the table tomorrow. >> >> > :-) >> >> Ah, a new home! Fitting, because the person who sent this will be at >> dinner tomorrow, so I can't tell it. >> >> Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the Capital Food >> Bank. That is a shitload of turkeys. >> >> Karen >> > ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATug001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C556@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:06:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:06:38 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQH6cZ05798 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:06:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77852@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Dear God . . Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:06:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:15 PM > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >You snipped off the context. It was one of your rule-conscious > >postings. I think it was the one about needing instruction on how to > > prayer -- that many people didn't know anything about > whatever and > >whatever prayers. Iow, they needed . They > couldn't just > >commune with their god in any old way -- they couldn't just > be spiritual > >-- they needed The Rules. > > I have never said anything about other people needing > instruction. I said > that I did not think the book title Christian Prayer for Dummies was > funny. I also said that another list I am on had just had an > informative > discussion of how to (I knew that would set N. off) Morning and > Evening Prayer. We had the discussion, of course, because > someone asked > about it. And other people asked other questions, etc. So you wouldn't find "Ritual Sacrifice for Dummies" to be funny? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuQ001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BD3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 6:57:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 722450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:57:36 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQBvaY06188 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:57:36 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:57:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77836@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Census Data Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:57:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:19 PM > I find it interesting that the average travel time to work in > Starkville > is 14.4 minutes. I googled and found this site because I was > wondering > about the population figure. I wasn't sure that my guess of about > 25,000 was correct. According to this site, it was 21,869 in 2000. > > http://www.city-data.com/city/Starkville-Mississippi.html In catching up by spot-checking, I noticed there were comments about discrepancies for distancies. There was a story on Slashdot sometime during November which stated how a lot of MapQuest's (et alia) data comes from: brute force - people driving around. I was going to stop at that, but I made a quick check at Slashdot - here's the link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/06/1822251&mode=thread&tid=187 "TechTV has an interesting story about the company that builds the mapping technology behind popular map services like Mapquest. The company, Navigation Technologies, is decidedly low-tech in its approach to making its maps: two people in a car drive around endlessly, inputting street information and landmarks into databases. Navtech's map databases are used in everything from Garmin GPS units to Alpine in-dash auto navigation systems. So next time you turn the wrong way down a one-way street, know that there are real people behind the controls." There are hyperlinks in the text which I didn't include but are available at the link I posted above. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuf001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C63C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:47 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQHTlZ10327 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:47 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:47 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:40 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: A story about a parrot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATuf001847 I SWEAR I didn't know that they can't fly! (actually, they can, though not easily or well - I have seen it with my own eyes) BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 11/26/03 11:54AM >>> Anyone else think of WKRP when they read that? > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:47 AM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: A story about a parrot > > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I think I'll deliver this story at the table tomorrow. > > > :-) > > Ah, a new home! Fitting, because the person who sent this will be at > dinner tomorrow, so I can't tell it. > > Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the Capital Food > Bank. That is a shitload of turkeys. > > Karen > > > > > >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/26/03 11:27AM >>> > > This was, of course, sent to me by a friend. > > > Karen > > > The Parrot > > > John got a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude > and an even > > worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, > > obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to > change the > > bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, > playing soft > > music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's > > vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the > parrot. The > > parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot but the parrot got angrier > > and even ruder. In desperation, John threw up his hands; he grabbed > > the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot > > squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was > total quiet. > > Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the > > parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The > parrot calmly > > stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may > > have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely > > remo rseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully > intend to > > do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior." > > John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. He > was about to > > ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, > > when the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?" > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuh001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C648@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:31:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:31:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHVFZ10782 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:31:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:31:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77855@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: wicked cold tonight Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:31:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:27 PM > my daughter already. He's tall, blond, and bald, and looks > like a young > mountain. He is a dance instructor for SCA, in Munich, as well as an > archer, and plays the recorder. Now you know just about > everything I know. So if he doesn't waste his hormones growing hair, what does he use them for? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuR001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:03:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:03:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQD3pY31824 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:03:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77838@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: wicked cold tonight Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:03:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:47 AM > On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:37:35 -0500, bonniev wrote: > > >>-40 d F > >>(winter nights in the North Country of the Adirondacks). > >>clo > > > >And in Northern Wisconsin. That was the temp one February > night when I was > >up there hoping for a Aurora sighting. At 9 a.m., breakfast > time, it was > >still -16. We were surprised that the rental car started > right up. But > >then we had to rock it out of a snow bank. Winter is so > much more mild > >here in Unreal Maine. > So do have any little mnemonic for remembering -0F > temps in Celsius? > :-) No, but the fact 0C is ice and 0F is -18C, I don't think one would need a mnemonic to know it's plenty cold. And if "20's nice" and you're talking about -18C, that should give some type of indication. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuh001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C667@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:32:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:32:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHWqZ11215 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:32:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FA2F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:32:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261732.hAQHWqZ11215@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:32:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Natalie's invocation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Carolyn Ostrander Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My boss just handed me the following: "from the pen of Aaron McGruder: "In this time of war against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban regime may we be thankful that leader isnt' the spoiled son of a powerful politician from a wealthy oil family who is supported by religious fundamentalists, operates through clandestine organizations, has no respect for the democractic electoral process, bombs innocents, and uses war to deny people their civil rights." Oh, man! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuh001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C6A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:37:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 744359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:37:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHbEZ12256 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:37:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQHb8iM024743 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:37:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:38:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1402166725.20031126113827@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I SWEAR I didn't know that they can't fly! > (actually, they can, though not easily or well - I have seen it with my own eyes) Did you drop it from a plane? When I think of turkeys, I remember hiking in Nagano with a student, and coming out of the woods into a clearing, and suddenly, there was a turkey pen in front of us. This was the largest, most perfect turkey I have ever seen, and its presence was unaccountable, since at that time, Japanese people did not eat turkey and you could not buy it in the stores. When I had Thanksgiving turkey in Japan, they were flown in at outrageous prices by airline personnel. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATug001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C6A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:40:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 744511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:40:34 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQHeYZ12829 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:40:34 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:40:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:40:23 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: A story about a parrot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATug001847 nope I scared it when I was hiking and it flew to very the top of a very tall maple tree. BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/26/03 12:38PM >>> On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I SWEAR I didn't know that they can't fly! > (actually, they can, though not easily or well - I have seen it with my own eyes) Did you drop it from a plane? When I think of turkeys, I remember hiking in Nagano with a student, and coming out of the woods into a clearing, and suddenly, there was a turkey pen in front of us. This was the largest, most perfect turkey I have ever seen, and its presence was unaccountable, since at that time, Japanese people did not eat turkey and you could not buy it in the stores. When I had Thanksgiving turkey in Japan, they were flown in at outrageous prices by airline personnel. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATui001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C73C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQI6DZ16336 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQI6B2f016403 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:06:11 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQI6AJC016332 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:06:11 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126100032.00ba12e8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:01:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77854@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:27 PM 11/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:30 PM > > > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > No one on this list is evil, IMO. > > > >> > > > > > > 'Cept maybe me! > > > > Nah. I don't believe there is an evil bone in your > > body - which reminds me, did your elbow get back to > > normal? > > >Which elbow? This elbow? (http://tinyurl.com/w6yp) Oh, My! Dislocations gross me out more than fractures. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuj001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C7BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:25:16 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe31.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIPGZ18546 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:25:16 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:25:10 -0800 Received: from 199.174.3.213 by law9-oe31.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:25:10 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.3.213] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Off? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:25:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2003 18:25:10.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[A06B9310:01C3B44A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who is -off- today (meaning: "not at a place of employment")? My "institution" gives three days off for Thanksgiving, but John's gives two (he took vacation for the week, of course). I took the two-day week off myself. I gave my Tuesday night class the evening off for good behavior ... My next (and last) semester here I will be teaching a full load over in English and Philosophy and will leave my campus professional-staff gig. Good riddance! Just chillin' here ... AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATui001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C7B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:29:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:29:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIT9Z18976 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:29:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQIT4Uh019095 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:30:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1271355168.20031126123023@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Browser? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094204.03d65d78@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094204.03d65d78@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Since it's viewed in a web browser, "web" seemed redundant. You're right. I think that's key for me, that the context is that narrow. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuU001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BE7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:28:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:28:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDIfY01566 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:18:41 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQDHfwb010486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:17:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:18:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: lotto scam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >This morning I received this : >---------------------------------------------- >FROM: THE PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT >WORLDWIDE PREMIER LOTTO, UK >NOTIFICATION I get about one of this a week - have for months. I think the cure is simple - people need to be reminded that if it sounds too good to be true, it almost certainlty is not true. Hit the "d" key! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuV001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BEAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:35:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:35:11 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQDZBY03552 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:35:11 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:59:29 PST Message-ID: <20031126125929.2791.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:59:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: SSA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1093713977.20031126050524@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > In police lingo (around here, anyway) it's soosh, > or > > soosh number. It makes my skin crawl when I hear > > that. > > Why soo instead of so? That's very odd. I guess SSI > would be > soooooeey. > > Karen. I guess SSI would be > soooooeey. Quite true. Hence the crawling skin. > > Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuj001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C805@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:42:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 748027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:42:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe40.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIgYZ20732 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:42:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:42:29 -0800 Received: from 199.174.3.213 by law9-oe40.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:42:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.3.213] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Horn o' Plenty Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:43:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2003 18:42:29.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B363810:01C3B44D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >La Familia de Meeberos Primeros has been merrily rolling along this week, >preparing an array of delectables and being verily thankful for the >plentitude that has become our lives. > >We will have the Thanksgiving Day meal at home but will visit parents today >and Friday to round out the festivities. > >May you all similarly enjoy this week in whatever way suits you best. > >JMW, AS and CS >Thanks! Peace be with you. >Betty ... and also with You. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuk001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C7E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:29 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQIbTZ20034 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 15494 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 18:37:18 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-20.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 18:37:18 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5069BD82 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:18 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1069871838!717617 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: A story about a parrot Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c3b44c$520a5970$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <63508251.20031126123124@WordWrite.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:31 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: A story about a parrot > > >On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >>> Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the >Capital Food >>> Bank. > >> So now the Capital Food Bank has a myriad Bangalore CSRs who >can't solve >> problems unless they're scripted? > >Yes, that's why Dell is moving business technical support back to the >US. > >Karen > Big yay! The guy I got in Panama was good. The Indians have not very for complicated issues. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATul001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 748201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:46:11 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIkBZ21287 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:46:11 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 830122B8F3; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78ACD2B8F2 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:46:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:46:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Off? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: > My next (and last) semester here I will be teaching a full load over in > English and Philosophy and will leave my campus professional-staff gig. Good > riddance! A general beginning philosophy course, or what? What will you have them read? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATul001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C825@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:47:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 748335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:47:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIlwZ21561 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:47:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQIltUh004460 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:47:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:49:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1624384460.20031126124915@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Spam or not? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094811.03d78d30@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094811.03d78d30@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > You should write back and say they've got his address wrong. I sent e-mail to both of them this time, informing them that Tom couldn't make it. We'll see what happens. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuX001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BED9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:44:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:44:32 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDiWY04742 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:44:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDiUGn008715 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:44:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084350.00ba40b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:44:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight In-Reply-To: <200311261246.hAQCkbY28895@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So do have any little mnemonic for remembering -0F temps in Celsius? >:-) --clo No I do not. Nor do I care to. As a math major I was told never to memorize anything I could look up. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATul001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C936@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 750536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:20:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJK5Z26878 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:20:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQJK42f024054 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:20:04 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQJK3JC024025; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:20:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126111433.00bb89b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:15:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Off? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:25 PM 11/26/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >Who is -off- today (meaning: "not at a place of employment")? > >My "institution" gives three days off for Thanksgiving, but John's gives two >(he took vacation for the week, of course). I took the two-day week off >myself. I gave my Tuesday night class the evening off for good behavior ... > >My next (and last) semester here I will be teaching a full load over in >English and Philosophy and will leave my campus professional-staff gig. Good >riddance! > >Just chillin' here ... > >AS We're open but there are people who have taken the day off. We do get both Thursday and Friday off as holidays. Larry used to have to go back to work on Friday when he was with the bank. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATum001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C99D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJeVZ29153 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQJeTeO020555 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:40:29 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQJeSa2020515; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:40:29 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126113255.00bae218@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:36:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <1f02a91f54bc.1f54bc1f02a9@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:30 PM 11/26/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >Which elbow? This elbow? (http://tinyurl.com/w6yp) > > > > Oh, My! Dislocations gross me out more than fractures. > >Me too. Saw several shoulder dislocations in my old swimming days. Freaked >me out. > >Marie I've been in the room when physicians struggled to put them back in. Such a relief when it pops back! I put an elbow back in place once just positioning it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATul001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C98F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:15 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJgFZ29290 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:15 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOZ007UI5EDCL@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:38:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:38:10 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor stuff To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1f3b521ef00f.1ef00f1f3b52@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >of Survivor. Sandra sure looked shocked to see the result of the > >vote. > > I'm personally inclined to think that her shocked look was as well- > acted as > her look of dismay when she "accidentally" took Rupert out during > the IC. BTW, did anyone notice how , fake and scripted the part looked when Sandra was spying on Jon and Burton. Reminded me of the filming on a 1970s daytime soap opera (I don't know if filming on soap operas have improved since). There's no way they wouldn't have noticed her there. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATum001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C9FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 752633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:00:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQK0uZ31256 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:00:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQK0rUh002387; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:00:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:02:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <805540496.20031126140212@WordWrite.com> To: Betty Clark CC: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: It's Time In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126113255.00bae218@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126113255.00bae218@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > I put an elbow back in place once just positioning it. I thought that most of the time they popped in like that. My little finger had to be done by the dr., though. I don't think he'd ever done one, and it was made more complicated by the fact that it was broken. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuZ001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:57:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDlNY05141 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:47:23 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQDkNwb018017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:46:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >I've never heard of anyone, paying into Social Security, who got a check >from them and called it a cost of living increase. In my experience, it's >a one way thing. You pay into the SSA. If for some reason you overpay, >then you have to apply to get a refund when you fill out our your annual >IRS stuff. Even when you are of age to receive Social Security payments, >you don't get extra checks. So I don't know what the hell Bethany is >talking about and I'm amazed that Natalie does. Must be some kind of >arcane academic thing. Bonnie, if you starting drawing checks issued by the Social Security Administration while you are still working, your current wages and immediately past wages increase the monthly amount to which you are/were entitled. SSA periodically ups the monthly ante and also pays a catch-up amount. In December, I will get a check containing both my increased monthly amount and also the additional amount I was due Jan - Oct of this year based on my 2002 wages, which were not previously figured in the formula. (But I will not be paid interest on the Jan-Oct amount.) And in January, I will also get a COLA raise - about 2% this year. Next November, I will get another and catch-up amount based on my 2003 wages - and it will be paid in December of 2004. SSA is always behind on these. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATum001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CA31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:04:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 752877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:04:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQK4hZ31732 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:04:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:04:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77860@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: wicked cold tonight Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:04:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:57 PM > > > No I do not. Nor do I care to. As a math major I was > told never to > > > memorize anything I could look up. --bonniev > > > >Do you use lined or plain paper? > > plain > > >Do you like real or pure math? > > pure Interesting. I'm a big fan of Galois. I also got to meet and interact with Paul Erdos several times starting with high school. I took enough pure maths to come within about two classes shy of a degree but just did it as a hobby to eat up some free time. The chairman of the dept used to watch people to see which type of paper they used in various courses. When his pets used lined paper it really seemed to hurt his feelings. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATum001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5CB73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 755979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQL0vZ05954 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQL0rAt072064; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:00:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126155501.00b55610@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:00:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Natalie's invocation In-Reply-To: <200311261732.hAQHWqZ11215@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:32 PM 11/26/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >My boss just handed me the following: > >"from the pen of Aaron McGruder: McGruder is one of my favorite cartoonists. I haven't visited his web page lately---it's fun to read some of the email he receives from Bubbadom. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATun001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CA67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:15:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 752908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:15:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQK5GZ31792 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:05:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQK4EdI021619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:04:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:05:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Thanks. I didn't know that. You might be unique on this service in being >a person who both earns wages and collects Social Security. Or does >Natalie also collect Social Security? I don't think she's old enough. You're quite welcome. It's still rare to do both. It became possible only in January 2001, I think - or was it 2002? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATun001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CD74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:01:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 760343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:01:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQM1qZ14948 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:01:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQM1oAr080375 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:01:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126165851.00bb97d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:01:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77860@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I took enough pure maths to come within about two classes shy of a degree >but just did it as a hobby to eat up some free time. The chairman of the >dept used to watch people to see which type of paper they used in various >courses. When his pets used lined paper it really seemed to hurt his >feelings. --Phil I was only a math major for two years as an undergrad. I started as a chemistry major but got disgusted that experiments seemed to hinge on how clean the test tubes were. I switched to history and found it tedious. I became a math major and utterly loved it. But then I left the convent, had to earn my own living, lost lots of credits by transferring from a Catholic college to a state university, and decided to take the shortest route to a Bachelor Degree by switching my major from math to philosophy. Other things happened. I now have a PhD in philosophy, concentrating in Medical Ethics, with which I've done very little but think lofty thoughts. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATun001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5CE54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:40:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 762477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:40:29 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQMeTZ19962 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:40:29 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11c.28af5792 (4222) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:40:19 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.28af5792.2cf685d3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:40:19 EST Subject: Re: lotto scam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/26/2003 7:13:31 AM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >BCC and you could see that the same email had been sent to several hundred >people all with email addresses beginning with the letter "s"! > Have any of you gotten this one? > >BrP --------------------- Not one like yours, but a similar thingy. I've simply tossed it, and never heard from them again. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuo001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CB00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:41:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:41:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQKf6Z02911 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:41:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FA818@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:41:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200311262041.hAQKf6Z02911@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:41:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Natalie's invocation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:23 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:33 PM > >> My boss just handed me the following: >> >> "from the pen of Aaron McGruder: >> >> "In this time of war against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban >> regime may we >> be thankful that leader isnt' the spoiled son of a >> powerful politician >> from a wealthy oil family who is supported by religious >> fundamentalists, >> operates through clandestine organizations, has no respect for the >> democractic electoral process, bombs innocents, and uses war to deny >> people their civil rights." Oh, man! > >http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/entertainmentcolumn/2002/col2002 0 >123.asp LOL - thanks! The author of that piece of ignorance also praises CBS for filling the whole in the much needed "theodrama" genre which "Touched By An Angel" left and "Joan of Arcadia" filled. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuo001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CE76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 763064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQMuYZ21627 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:56:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQMu5sb004572 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:56:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:57:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <854810409.20031126165751@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Killer or Coder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATua001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BF8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:07:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQE7iY08537 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:07:44 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:07:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77841@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:07:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:47 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? > Well, that'll make a > >> > great All-Star series. Eight people. > >> > >> Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. > > > I thought Phil's point was that it couldn't very well be > limited to just > > the past winners since that would be only eight people. > > But it's based on the false premise that there have been 8 shows. And > it hasn't been that many. It's illogical to think that it was only > winners. > Season Five." It's not a false premise. I skewed it high for a buffer. The assertion was that the only people who would be worthy of an All-Star series would be previous winners. That's why I said, "Seven? Eight?" That would definitely be too few. If it's five, that's even smaller. It's not illogical. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATua001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:21:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 728609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:21:42 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQELfY10100 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:21:41 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY005PAQK569@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:17:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:17:37 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor stuff To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1cf4eb1d0650.1d06501cf4eb@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's not a false premise. I skewed it high for a buffer. The > assertion was > that the only people who would be worthy of an All-Star series > would be > previous winners. That's why I said, "Seven? Eight?" That would > definitelybe too few. If it's five, that's even smaller. It's > not illogical. We already heard that Rupert and Jerry (two non-winners) are going to be on it. I bet Colleen also shows up, and probably that advertising person from Oregon (or somewhere up in the Northwest). I'll bet they picked the most contentious people. I hope Rob comes back! He was such an entertaining jerk. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATub001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:42:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 729842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:50 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEgoY12728 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY00GOVRJDF7@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:38:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:38:45 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <18f30119031d.19031d18f301@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I'm glad I thought to call up God before my birth > > and ask to have Very > > Special Blood. Since my blood is very similar to yours, I agree. Except that it could be a pain in the ass if we become pregnant with our Rh+ husband. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATub001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C091@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 729850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:56 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQEgtY12739 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77844@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Browser? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:42:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:30 AM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > At 06:28 AM 11/26/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand > >>it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? > > > Yes. Otherwise I'd wonder why someone would want me to point an > > artiodactyl at . > > FWIW, I would never willingly write 'point your browser' to or at > anything. I keep wanting to pick up the hapless shopper and direct > them. I remember when the editors loved to see authors write "depress the mouse". Someone drew a picture of a mouse crying with a cord running out of it and underneath it said, "depress the mouse". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuc001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:08:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:08:31 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQF8U316775 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:08:30 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOY00G8PSQ6W4@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:04:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:04:25 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1d0d651d2ed7.1d2ed71d0d65@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor > Marie Ascher wrote: > > Next time you are in NYC -- John's Pizza, one large, sausage and > garlic. > Is there just one John's, or is it a chain? Do I (and I realize the > above was addressed to Espen, not to me) have to get sausage? I hate > sausage on pizzas. There are currently -- I think -- four of them. The original is a gritty little place on Bleecker Street. Then there's another on 63rd (?) off of First Ave on the Upper East Side, a one built in an old church on 44th Street in the Theater District (where a Wordsler event once occurred), and another (and this one may have closed according to my sources) near Lincoln Center. You don't need to get the sausage, but you'd be wise to. It's the best sausage -- from Faicco's Pork Shop, also on Bleecker Street. But I've seen other pizzas eaten. My Newfie friends were quite happy with their sundried tomato and basil pizza. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATud001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C1B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:24:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 732560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:24:24 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQFOO319031 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:24:24 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:26:33 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2NVV0; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:26:30 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031126162327.027c36f8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:24:17 +0100 Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77832@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77832@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 05:05 26.11.2003 -0500 skrev Phil Paxton: >The US consumes far more calcium in food or dietary supplements but their >bodies contain far less than those in other countries who do not consume >very much. I'm guessing there are other factors at hand which either >prevent the calcium from being processed & absorbed or is causing it to be >leeched. Yes, this is similar to the finds in Norway - maybe we have something in common. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATue001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C3B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 737605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQGJnZ29726 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 11858 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 16:19:48 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-18.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 16:19:48 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60435117C for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:48 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-18.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1069863588!714226 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hot Tamales and Blood Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:19:48 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c3b439$1cc27f30$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Barfoot >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:00 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood > > >My understanding is that the drop of blood is put into a >solution of copper sulfate which because of relative density >gives an indication of the amount of iron in the blood. If >the droplet floats you might be borderline anemic. I used to >give blood - gave six gallons before they disqualified me >because I have a boyfriend. > >BrP > > Don't mention the boyfriend. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATud001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C35E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:11:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 736685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:11:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGBRZ27628 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:11:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQGBOiM005796 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:11:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:12:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <264345950.20031126101242@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <1c91cc1cc09a.1cc09a1c91cc@optonline.net> References: <1c91cc1cc09a.1cc09a1c91cc@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > In New Haven there are several places, names > of which aren't permanently stored in my head (Pepe's? maybe...). Sally's and Pepe's are the two places; anything else is inauthentic. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuO001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5B930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 0:42:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 713036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ5gFY12464 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor stuff Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:42:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:44 PM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > > Would he really be welcome on the All-Star Show? > > > Didn't he kind of vote himself "off"? In view of > > > that, he hardly qualifies as a survivor(?). > > > > Who says he has to wear a white hat or be a "joiner" > > to be in the All-Star > > show? > > I don't recall saying he had to be either. But if > you're going to make an All-Star appearance on a show > called "Survivor", logic dictates that you should BE a > survivor - at least in my mind. Doesn't matter if he > quit, got voted off, got kicked off, resigned, or died > - he did not survive the premise of the show. Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, that'll make a great All-Star series. Eight people. Anything they do would be worthwhile if they would do what they'd claimed they'd do in the current series: "no help". Yet they're given money to go to town and are given an inflatable raft as well. If they're going to survive, provide no water, no tools [at all], take away the razor the women are obviously using to shave their legs, and let's see how they do. I really think everyone understands the "All-Stars" are a group they believe will have the best or most interesting chemistry. That's the only reason Jerri "The Blue Bikini" can be invited back (she had no other merits). What will be interesting is Wednesday evening - "The most deceptive act ever" "Someone wins immunity and has it taken back." Let's hope it's not something taken out of context to pump up the ratings because we're entering the end of sweeps. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuf001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:46:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:46:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGkCZ01686 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:46:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQGk9Uh021373 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:46:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:47:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <199337494.20031126104728@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I think I'll deliver this story at the table tomorrow. > :-) Ah, a new home! Fitting, because the person who sent this will be at dinner tomorrow, so I can't tell it. Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the Capital Food Bank. That is a shitload of turkeys. Karen >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 11/26/03 11:27AM >>> > This was, of course, sent to me by a friend. > Karen > The Parrot > John got a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even > worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude, > obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the > bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft > music and anything else he could think of to "clean up" the bird's > vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The > parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot but the parrot got angrier > and even ruder. In desperation, John threw up his hands; he grabbed > the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot > squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. > Not a peep was heard for over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the > parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly > stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may > have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely > remo rseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to > do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior." > John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. He was about to > ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, > when the bird continued, "May I ask what the turkey did?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuf001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C45A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:38:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:38:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQGciZ00655 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:38:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQGceUh013771 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:38:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:39:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <995455408.20031126103959@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > * I can't remember the exact spelling but there's an "a' before > the p in New Haven pizza. Did we talk about this in 1991? apizza See http://forums.egullet.com/index.php?s=221c03303aa1ae7d0ed4eb043bfdf79c&showtopic=14028 for an explanation. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATue001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C534@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 741248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:25 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQH4sZ05311 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:04:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 2446 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2003 17:04:48 -0000 Received: from 1cust132.tnt3.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.132.132) by smtpout01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2003 17:04:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c3b43f$837c3300$84848744@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Cc: "Kay Hood" Subject: Definition of crone Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:05:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish I had had this for Natalie and Kay's croning ceremony back in '93: ....the crone--that sapient, intractable, quintessentially post-hormonal female who until some centuries ago was universally looked upon as a principal repository of memory and wisdom, and still enjoys that role in much of the "less" developed world. My crones boisterously interrupted, opined, and vociferated to promote their desires and commands... This is from a 2/26/96 Women's Issue of The New Yorker, an article on the history of Hormone Replacement Theory by Francine du Plessix Gray. It's being read as part of my General Detritus Cleanup Project. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATug001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C61B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:45 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHRjZ09843 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:45 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77854@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: It's Time Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:30 PM > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > No one on this list is evil, IMO. > > >> > > > > 'Cept maybe me! > > Nah. I don't believe there is an evil bone in your > body - which reminds me, did your elbow get back to > normal? Which elbow? This elbow? (http://tinyurl.com/w6yp) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuQ001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BD86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:27:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:27:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCRgY27026 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:27:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQCRCsb024996 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:27:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 06:28:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <109402858.20031126062858@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Browser? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuR001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BDD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 7:50:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 723391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:50:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQCe4Y27687 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:40:04 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQCd2wb002055 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:39:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:40:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >And why do you say I will get at least one? >> >> Because I think COLA will continue for a while. > >Why single me out? Many of us are around the same age. Please forgive me for singling you out. I apologize. I did it because it has seemed very important to you that you get COLA raises re your pension now that you are retired. I will try to remember not to single you out again. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATug001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C61B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHRLZ09725 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FA2B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200311261727.hAQHRLZ09725@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:27:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:35 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 06:10 PM 11/25/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:54 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > >> >> It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with the German >> >> houseguest to talk abt the weather! >> > >> >So how are things going with the German houseguest? >> > >> >-- >> > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >>Well. He's intelligent, interesting, good-mannered, and adaptable. And he >>clearly adores my daughter. >> >>clo > >What more is there? Does he have a sense of humor? That is important. > >Betty Well, I have had only limited time with him, but I'd say he has a quiet, but definite, sense of humor. He certainly finds our antics amusing, at least! What more do you want to know? He's an electrical engineer by training, but a network administrator for something - perhaps an ISP? by profession. He grew up in a small town, has married siblings, and parents who have met my daughter already. He's tall, blond, and bald, and looks like a young mountain. He is a dance instructor for SCA, in Munich, as well as an archer, and plays the recorder. Now you know just about everything I know. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuh001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C65B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:34:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:34:05 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHY5Z11372 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:34:05 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQHY2Ob1196192 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:34:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:34:02 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > (actually, they can, though not easily or well It's my understanding that they can't mate , either. Speaking of which, attentive readers of this space may recall a post about Jazz the IVF African Wildcat and his clone Ditteaux. Those kids at the Audubon Institute have been at it again, and Ditteaux now has two brothers, Miles and Otis. I Miles, but who's Otis? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuS001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BE62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:13:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:12:58 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQDCvY00570 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:12:57 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:12:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:12:24 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: lotto scam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAQNATuS001845 This morning I received this : ---------------------------------------------- FROM: THE PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT WORLDWIDE PREMIER LOTTO, UK NOTIFICATION Congratulations Category A prize winner! You have been selected as one of two winners of the Worldwide Premier Lotto UK computer ballot draws and thus will be a privileged recipient of the grand draw prize of £ 7,500,000 (Seven million five hundred thousand Great Britain Pounds only). Winning File Reference number for your prize is WWPL/UK/ 61-812087; ticket number 003-214-39/A. We in the Worldwide Premier Lotto UK is by this program, launching our model computer balloting lottery draws, developed and designed to satisfy the cravings of the ever growing number of participants in our various lottery programs. With funds accrued exclusively from previous draws, payouts to all winners are guaranteed and will be transferred in record time. After randomly selecting 15,000 participants from an initial database of 300,000 emails and zoning all participants by their respective continents from across the globe, we produced an extensive list from which you have emerged as one of the winners of the Grand Draw prize. To ensure a smooth collection of your winnings, the transfer of your prize is to be handled by our Prize Transfer agents. You are to contact our agents by email and/or fax within a week of receiving this notice. Please find full contact details below: Mr. Simon Perchard Finance Director Link Finance and Trust Ltd. 20 - 24 St. Leonard's Road Windsor SL4 3BB, United Kingdom Great Britain Tel: (+44) 709 204 1843 Fax: (+44) 709 203 9288 Email:sperchard8@linkfinanceandtrustltd.net Also find all other relevant winning lottery information below: Draw Serial No: 35/751346 Batch No: 06-A852 Zonal Draw No: A2-003 Grand Draw No: 12099 You are seriously advised to keep all winning lottery information and numbers from the public in line with our company security protocol to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by unscrupulous individuals. Please direct all further correspondences and queries to your respective category Prize Transfer handlers. Congratulations once again from the Worldwide Premier Lotto family. Sincerely, Joseph Finn International Promotions Manager WORLDWIDE PREMIER LOTTO, UK ------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's what I read about it: Lottery Scam Warnings There seems to be lots of scam emails doing the rounds which tell you that you have won a jackpot prize in a fake lottery. You'll find links to examples of these emails (below) published without the writers' permission, in the hope that awareness will, somewhere along the line, save somebody from being parted with their savings. Users who responded to their emails have been asked to send €5,625 as a "service fee" to receive their 'winnings'. If you pay that money you then receive another letter, claiming to be from the Gaming Board of Great Britain, and with a forged signature of a board member, asking for €20,000. So far, at least 180 people who have lost their €5,000 - please don't let the next one be you!! On a serious side, many people are asking us what can be done about this. The sad fact is that there are so many scams that the authorities can not chase them all. The Metropolitan Police have established a resource to assist in combating specific types of high value fraud, which include a contact email address. If you receive any of the emails or direct mailings mentioned below, we recommend that you delete them and make your friends and colleagues aware of their existence. Do NOT reply to them and DO NOT complete their online claim forms. NOTE: the actual text of emails varies, as do the so-called 'winning numbers', the prize values and name of companies involved. Some variations ask you to complete an emailed or online claim form at a url like "linkfinanceandtrustltd.com" which forwards to anonymous pages on MSN. Others ask you to fill the form in and fax it to them. DO NOT complete the form as you will be giving away personal information to the scamsters. As a somewhat humorous aside, we received one of these emails addressed to "Dear Sales" (email address: sales@lottery) informing us that we were one of six lucky winners of £2.5 million. The scammer had, however, used CC in their email instead of BCC and you could see that the same email had been sent to several hundred people all with email addresses beginning with the letter "s"! ----------------------------------------------- Have any of you gotten this one? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATui001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C704@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQHsSZ14795 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQHrxsb011635 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:53:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:55:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1988701623.20031126115546@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > nope I scared it when I was hiking and it flew to very the top of a very tall maple tree. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ You should be in fine form for talking to Brandon, the WonderBaby!:) I like watching wild turkeys fly. There was just a piece on the news about people bowling with turkeys. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATui001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C738@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:04:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:04:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQI4TZ16172 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:04:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQI4SW1014979 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:04:28 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQI4QWq014938; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:04:27 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126095926.00b59c98@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:00:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight In-Reply-To: <200311261727.hAQHRLZ09725@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:27 PM 11/26/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:35 -0800, Betty Clark > wrote: > > >At 06:10 PM 11/25/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:05:54 -0600, Natalie Maynor >wrote: > >> > >> >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > > >> >> It's been fun trying to convert from F to C in our heads with the >German > >> >> houseguest to talk abt the weather! > >> > > >> >So how are things going with the German houseguest? > >> > > >> >-- > >> > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >> > >>Well. He's intelligent, interesting, good-mannered, and adaptable. And he > >>clearly adores my daughter. > >> > >>clo > > > >What more is there? Does he have a sense of humor? That is important. > > > >Betty > >Well, I have had only limited time with him, but I'd say he has a quiet, > but definite, sense of humor. He certainly finds our antics amusing, at >least! > >What more do you want to know? He's an electrical engineer by training, >but a network administrator for something - perhaps an ISP? by profession. >He grew up in a small town, has married siblings, and parents who have met >my daughter already. He's tall, blond, and bald, and looks like a young >mountain. He is a dance instructor for SCA, in Munich, as well as an >archer, and plays the recorder. Now you know just about everything I know. > >clo I meant that there is nothing else necessary. Sounds like a keeper. It's great when you like who your children choose to be with. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuh001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C753@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:12:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:12:13 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQICDZ16916 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:12:13 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112618120701100nq7s4e>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:12:07 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094204.03d65d78@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:15:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Browser? In-Reply-To: <109402858.20031126062858@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Does "browser" have to have Web in front of it for you to understand >it as the thing you use to surf the Internet? I just wrote this in a login failure page: "Please check the possible reasons below to see if you can correct the problem. To try again, click your browser's 'refresh' button." Since it's viewed in a web browser, "web" seemed redundant. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuj001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C7C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIRmZ18801 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:48 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77858@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Natalie's invocation Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:27:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:33 PM > My boss just handed me the following: > > "from the pen of Aaron McGruder: > > "In this time of war against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban > regime may we > be thankful that leader isnt' the spoiled son of a > powerful politician > from a wealthy oil family who is supported by religious > fundamentalists, > operates through clandestine organizations, has no respect for the > democractic electoral process, bombs innocents, and uses war to deny > people their civil rights." Oh, man! http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/entertainmentcolumn/2002/col20020 123.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuj001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5C7D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:01 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIU1Z19136 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:01 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQITx2f004009 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:29:59 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAQITwJC003988; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:29:59 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031126102516.00b9e0c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:25:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Horn o' Plenty In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:23 AM 11/26/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >La Familia de Meeberos Primeros has been merrily rolling along this week, >preparing an array of delectables and being verily thankful for the >plentitude that has become our lives. > >We will have the Thanksgiving Day meal at home but will visit parents today >and Friday to round out the festivities. > >May you all similarly enjoy this week in whatever way suits you best. > >JMW, AS and CS Thanks! Peace be with you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuV001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5BEA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:34:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:38 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDYcY03420 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDYaGn007470 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:34:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And I have never heard people say SS. > >Most people say Sossecurity. I've never heard anyone say SS or SSA. >Karen I've never heard of anyone, paying into Social Security, who got a check from them and called it a cost of living increase. In my experience, it's a one way thing. You pay into the SSA. If for some reason you overpay, then you have to apply to get a refund when you fill out our your annual IRS stuff. Even when you are of age to receive Social Security payments, you don't get extra checks. So I don't know what the hell Bethany is talking about and I'm amazed that Natalie does. Must be some kind of arcane academic thing. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuk001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C7BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIU6Z19141 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:30:06 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQITbsb012082 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:29:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:31:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <63508251.20031126123124@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> Jeeze! The Dell Foundation donated 10,000 turkeys to the Capital Food >> Bank. > So now the Capital Food Bank has a myriad Bangalore CSRs who can't solve > problems unless they're scripted? Yes, that's why Dell is moving business technical support back to the US. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuk001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:32:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 747417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:32:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIW5Z19345 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:32:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAQIW1Uh021570 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:32:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:33:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1647705828.20031126123320@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Spam or not? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094811.03d78d30@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094811.03d78d30@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, >>I can't decide. > Not spam. Spam usually doesn't have conversations in it. Sometimes it does, but this one is way too elaborate. > Also, you can find Tom in Yahoo Groups, where his profile is "tom_sai_yuk" > and his real email address starts with "wordwrite@a..." > You should write back and say they've got his address wrong. I've BEEN saying it for months, and they ignore me. That's what started me wondering if it were an elaborate plot. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuk001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:45:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 748175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:45:55 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIjsZ21231 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:45:54 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112618454801200okes8e>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:45:48 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126093704.028ab200@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:48:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77832@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >I'm guessing there are other factors at hand which either prevent the >calcium from being processed & absorbed or is causing it to be leeched. The vegetarian / anti-cow's-milk folks blame too much protein. See http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/calcium.htm scroll down to "The Influence of Excessive Protein" http://www.rawvegan.com/bone_disease.html goes further explaining the presumed biochemistry, and includes one of the commonly-quoted examples: "Inuit Eskimos consume 3500 milligrams of calcium each day, and by age 40 are crippled." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuW001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BED3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:40:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:40:12 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDUCY02995 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:30:12 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAQDTBwb013084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:29:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:30:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <20031126125424.38745.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031126125424.38745.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Life is so bizarre. You are more than welcome > to my > > loathed curly hair. I would hate to have curly hair. Can you get barbershop haircuts? My mother has curly hair - she usually cuts her own. It usually looks quite good - for curly hair. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuW001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5BED5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 725940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:40:42 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDegY04217 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:40:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDeeGn008228 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:40:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084016.00b9fd78@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:40:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: It's Time In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77832@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have a friendly wager with a friend of mine regarding osteoporosis & >whatnot. > >The US consumes far more calcium in food or dietary supplements but their >bodies contain far less than those in other countries who do not consume >very much. I'm guessing there are other factors at hand which either >prevent the calcium from being processed & absorbed or is causing it to be >leeched. So what is the wager and how will it be won? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuk001847 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C92A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 750702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJNCZ27216 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:12 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7785C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Spam or not? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:33 PM > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Karen Kay writes, > > >>I can't decide. > > > Not spam. Spam usually doesn't have conversations in it. > > Sometimes it does, but this one is way too elaborate. > > > Also, you can find Tom in Yahoo Groups, where his profile > is "tom_sai_yuk" > > and his real email address starts with "wordwrite@a..." > > > You should write back and say they've got his address wrong. > > I've BEEN saying it for months, and they ignore me. That's what > started me wondering if it were an elaborate plot. Practically anything can happen where spam is involved. To try to avoid Bayesian filters (neural network), they'll add conversations, short essays (in the HTML comments), etc. to make it appear there are more words or a higher percentage of words spelled correctly. For a long time they'd salt the with lots of spaces followed by a lot of gibberish, then they'd add a lot of gibberish because filters really didn't know what to do. Now, filters have grown smart enough to spot things such as "vi,g-r^a" so they've reverted back to emulating regular email. Another technique which isn't used much is to send a single graphic as almost the entire message - just enough HTML to handle if they click on the graphic. Then there's no text to analyze - it's all displayed on the embedded graphic. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuX001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BEF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:45:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:37 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDjbY04906 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.55]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126134532.OMPP1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:45:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC4AE7D.EAE7F692@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:45:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <200311261253.hAQCrsY29965@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Next you'll be saying that they don't do M & E prayers, or read the Collect! I think you've hit upon their big sin! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATul001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:51:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 748583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:51:15 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe57.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.192]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIpFZ22015 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:51:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:51:09 -0800 Received: from 199.174.3.213 by law9-oe57.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:51:09 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.3.213] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Off? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:51:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Nov 2003 18:51:09.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[419728A0:01C3B44E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My next (and last) semester here I will be teaching a full load over in > English and Philosophy and will leave my campus professional-staff gig. Good > riddance! >A general beginning philosophy course, or what? What will you have them >read? >Ann "English and Philosophy" is the department name. I'll be teaching Composition and Research (and perhaps a section of gen ed Humanities). AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuY001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 8:48:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 726313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:08 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQDm8Y05229 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:08 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQDm6Ar093286 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084704.00b8a7a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 08:48:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The bloodsuckers >have taken to asking for it right before they poke the needle in. I >remember thinking yesterday that some suspicious people would not think >it to be calling our your ss# with lots of other people >listening. -- Natalie Our bloodsuckers have taken to showing you the number and asking if that is right rather than having you repeat it or calling it out themselves. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATun001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C9DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:56:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 752396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:56:51 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJupZ30781 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:56:51 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAQJunAr059077 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:56:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145629.00bab100@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:56:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77840@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > No I do not. Nor do I care to. As a math major I was told never to > > memorize anything I could look up. --bonniev > >Do you use lined or plain paper? plain >Do you like real or pure math? pure bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATua001845 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5BF93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 9:05:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 727616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:05:34 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQE5XY08245 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:05:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:05:28 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77840@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: wicked cold tonight Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:05:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:45 AM > >So do have any little mnemonic for remembering -0F > temps in Celsius? > >:-) --clo > > No I do not. Nor do I care to. As a math major I was told never to > memorize anything I could look up. Do you use lined or plain paper? Do you like real or pure math? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuO001846 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5B9F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 1:24:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 714819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:24:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQ6O8Y16342 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:24:12 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:24:03 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77830@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: [sylvar@VAXER.NET: WLM] Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:23:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Ben Ostrowsky [mailto:sylvar@VAXER.NET] > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:19 PM > > Jodi may be beautiful, but that is one butt ugly header. > > Yeah, the Habeas header lines tell spam detectors that I'm making a > specific claim that I'm not sending spam, a claim that will > be enforced by > copyright law if I'm lying. Habeas is having its problems these days. They licensed some known spammers and weren't too quick to cut them off. Like many e-businesses, the dangling carrot of revenue|profitability provided too much for them to turn away, even if it had a negative impact upon their reputation. They also terminated their CEO [recently] and are now kind of drifting in the water, rudderless. Most of the people in the "anti" (as in "antispam") world trust Habeas about as far as they can throw Bill Gates' money if it were pennies stuffed in one big sack. Habeas is in the same boat as TrustE, the DMA, and Tropica. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATuj001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C7AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:24:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:24:27 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQIORZ18395 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:24:27 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112618242101300e2oene>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:24:21 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126094811.03d78d30@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:27:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Spam or not? In-Reply-To: <1703720423.20031126075645@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >I can't decide. Not spam. Spam usually doesn't have conversations in it. Also, you can find Tom in Yahoo Groups, where his profile is "tom_sai_yuk" and his real email address starts with "wordwrite@a..." You should write back and say they've got his address wrong. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATum001844 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5C965@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:34:08 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQJY8Z28478 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:34:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HOZ00AJ051GYG@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:30:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:30:03 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1f02a91f54bc.1f54bc1f02a9@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Which elbow? This elbow? (http://tinyurl.com/w6yp) > > Oh, My! Dislocations gross me out more than fractures. Me too. Saw several shoulder dislocations in my old swimming days. Freaked me out. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNATui001848 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5C74F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:08:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:08:08 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQI88Z16504 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 13:08:08 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112618080201600rob0ne>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:08:02 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:11:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin writes, >I Miles, but who's Otis? Redding? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:13:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNDpuO002159 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:13:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CEEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 763843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:13:51 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQNDpZ23020 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:13:51 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:18:27 PST Message-ID: <20031126221827.70500.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: lotto scam To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > ----------------------------------------------- > Have any of you gotten this one? > BrP Nope, not yet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 17:17:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAQNHHuO002234 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:17:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CEEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:17:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 763885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:17:17 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAQNHHZ23196 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:17:17 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:50 PST Message-ID: <20031126222350.13469.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:23:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > It usually looks > quite good - for curly hair. You see, there it is - the qualification. My son inherited it from me, and it's one the the things he holds against me. Between my genes and the Marine Corps, he has never had a longish hair style. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:56:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0uXuO002989 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FAC78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:28 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0GNZ28569 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:23 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:28:17 PST Message-ID: <20031126232817.57193.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:28:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Off? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Amy Burns Short wrote: > Who is -off- today (meaning: "not at a place of > employment")? One non-sworn employee Of Sylacauga Police Department is "off". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:56:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0uXuO002988 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FAC73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:19 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0GJZ28566 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:19 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0GGOb3735782 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:16:16 -0600 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:16:16 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pete: >> I Miles, but who's Otis? > Redding? You're probably right; neither the newspaper article nor the zoo's web site has anything to say. My angle was an "Otis" that yells JAZZ in the same way that "Miles" does, and I think of Otis Redding as a soul singer more than a jazz singer. But hey -- who wants to genre-ize Otis Redding? The new white rhino, by the way, is named Satchmo ("He can't wait to get his horn"). -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:56:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0uXuO002990 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FAC46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:10 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0HAZ28651 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127001704.LEOQ1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC54281.F553D231@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:17:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I've never heard of anyone, paying into Social Security, who got a check > from them and called it a cost of living increase. In my experience, it's > a one way thing. You pay into the SSA. If for some reason you overpay, > then you have to apply to get a refund when you fill out our your annual > IRS stuff. Even when you are of age to receive Social Security payments, > you don't get extra checks. So I don't know what the hell Bethany is > talking about and I'm amazed that Natalie does. Must be some kind of > arcane academic thing. I don't know anything about extra ss checks, but then my only experience was in being the official caretaker (can't remember the right term now) of my mother's ss checks. Iow, I got the mail related to them and had to fill out forms, etc. The checks themselves were automatically deposited. I do know that she was about to get a ss "raise" -- to be in effect the month after she died. But there were no extra checks. When Bethany mentioned COLA, I thought she meant things like the raises that occur. I wasn't paying close attention and didn't notice the thing about "extra checks." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:56:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0uXuO002992 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FAC6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0WaZ29969 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:36 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAR0WYAr097533 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126193223.00bc9528@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Killer or Coder In-Reply-To: <854810409.20031126165751@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I got eight out of ten. >http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ > > >Karen bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:56:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0uXuO002991 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:56:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FACA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:25 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0WPZ29961 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:25 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:23:33 PST Message-ID: <20031126232333.59349.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A story about a parrot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > Those kids at the Audubon Institute > have been at it again, and Ditteaux > now has two brothers, Miles and Otis. > > I Miles, but who's Otis? The town drunk in Mayberry. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuO003058 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CF9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:06:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:06:56 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR06uZ27715 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:06:56 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:12:16 PST Message-ID: <20031126231216.50252.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:12:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: It's Time To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7784E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Are you certain it wasn't a Bare Reserve and the > words were "Go Bares" ? Well, this brings up a good question. BB was silent on this matter except to say that "we" won. The humans? And what did she wear, if anything? With BB, it is within the realm of possibility that she (and Larry) went bare to contemplate the bears. BB, 'fess up. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuO003060 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CF99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0HOZ28668 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:19:00 PST Message-ID: <20031126231900.28253.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:19:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dear God . . To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77852@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > So you wouldn't find "Ritual Sacrifice for Dummies" > to be funny? Yes, but instructive as well. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuO003061 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5CFAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:18:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:18:24 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0IOZ28731 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:18:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127001819.LEXL1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:18:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC542CB.CDCF317F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:18:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> <375698045.20031126073524@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Nor have I ever heard sossecurity. > > Yes, you have. If you've ever heard a Washington politician talk about > SS, that's how they say it. Alyce is the one who brought this to my > attention. I rarely have occasion to hear Washington politicians talking. Perhaps I've heard sossecurity, but I for sure have no memory of it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuP003057 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CFB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:40 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0JeZ28794 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127001935.LFHS1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC54317.2035B89C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:19:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084223.00b9a4c8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >They're supposed to be in late production now and it won't air until the > >Super Bowl; usually the third Sunday (or so) in January so they've got > >plenty of time to play show-and-tell. > > February this year. I am counting on Wordslers to tell me when the time comes! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuP003059 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5CFB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:53 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0JrZ28815 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:53 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:33:28 PST Message-ID: <20031126233328.21124.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:33:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spam or not? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1647705828.20031126123320@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I've BEEN saying it for months, and they ignore me. > That's what > started me wondering if it were an elaborate plot. PLOT ALERT******** Contact Natalie immediately re: mysterious cat man and cat man's cousin in garage. The information you receive may be very important to your personal safety. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuP003061 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CFC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:18 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0MIZ29104 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:18 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:17:54 PST Message-ID: <20031126231754.71153.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:17:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Definition of crone To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000501c3b43f$837c3300$84848744@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Brad Grissom wrote: > I wish I had had this for Natalie and Kay's croning > ceremony back > in '93: > > ....the crone--that sapient, intractable, > quintessentially > post-hormonal female > who until some centuries ago was universally > looked upon as a > principal > repository of memory and wisdom, and still > enjoys that role > in much of the > "less" developed world. My crones boisterously > interrupted, > opined, and > vociferated to promote their desires and > commands... When I read the word crone, I have an instant image of a witch, but not necessarily with black magic powers. Crone is not synonymous with witch, but that mental image WILL pop up. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuP003060 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CFA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:10 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0M9Z29080 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127002204.LFYF1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC543AC.1EAAFD57@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:22:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7782E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <15869356.20031126050930@WordWrite.com> <3FC4AAC5.2CC2C10E@maynor.net> <394397187.20031126074646@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > >> > >> On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> > Okay, so we're on series number what? Seven? Eight? Well, that'll make a > >> > great All-Star series. Eight people. > >> > >> Bonnie (?) said it was 18 people. > > > I thought Phil's point was that it couldn't very well be limited to just > > the past winners since that would be only eight people. > > But it's based on the false premise that there have been 8 shows. And > it hasn't been that many. It's illogical to think that it was only > winners. I thought Phil's point was that it was illogical to think it was only the winners. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuQ003057 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CFA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:24:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:24:00 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0O0Z29290 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:24:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127002354.LGKS1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:23:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5441B.EBD617B1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:23:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126084704.00b8a7a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Our bloodsuckers have taken to showing you the number and asking if that is > right rather than having you repeat it or calling it out themselves. I think ours have done that at times. It sounds familiar. Yesterday was a new bunch of employees perhaps. Bloodsuckers seem to be short-lived. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuQ003060 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CFDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:35:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:35:18 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0ZIZ30179 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:35:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127003512.CSWO1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC546C1.A8564D6F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:35:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> <3FC4AE20.26026AC9@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >? Why are you apologizing? > > Because you sounded quite annoyed, demanding to know "why." Where did you read annoyance into that? I was in no way annoyed. > >also haven't noticed that I'm any more interested in COLA raises than > >average. > > I don't recall its being mentioned by others on this . Fwiw, it was on this that I first heard the expression COLA. That suggests to me that somebody else must have mentioned it. I thought it was some kind of drink until learning here what it meant. > >not be so fixed. So, yes, I have a reasonable interest in such matters > >-- but nothing like your intense interest in money. > > Ah, so your interest in money is reasonable, but mine is not. How do you > know my level of interest? What is your level of interest? (Reasonable > does not exactly specify level of interest.) I'm amazed by your -- what's the right term? -- your paranoia? your defensiveness? "Reasonable" in this kind of context usually is interpreted as something like "it is typical/understandable/notunusual/etc that most people would think x amount about y." I can see how a literalist might think it means that somebody who thinks x+5 amount about y has passed the "reasonable" category and is thus "unreasonable." I suggest that you observe sometime the normal use of language. Re why I think you have an intense interest in money: About every posting of yours that isn't about praying is about money and about how you are going to to get whoever to reduce whatever cost by whatever amount so that you can invest whatever and reap great benefits because of whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuQ003059 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CFB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:34:17 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0YGZ30094 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:34:16 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0YG8b023792 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:34:16 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0YGfC003672 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:34:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:34:09 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot Message-ID: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Pete: >>> I Miles, but who's Otis? >> Redding? I can't find it online, but there was a kid's movie named Miles and Otis. I'm pretty sure the characters were animals. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuR003058 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CFDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:44:19 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0iJZ31283 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:44:19 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:37:54 PST Message-ID: <20031126233754.41915.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:37:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Spam or not? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1624384460.20031126124915@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I sent e-mail to both of them this time, informing > them that Tom > couldn't make it. We'll see what happens. Tell him you have being trying to reach him, to make arrangements for him to pay back the $15,000 he owes you, in installments. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuR003059 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CFD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:41:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:41:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0VgZ29866 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:31:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0UfdI030893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:30:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:31:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Horn o' Plenty In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: >La Familia de Meeberos Primeros has been merrily rolling along this week, >preparing an array of delectables and being verily thankful for the >plentitude that has become our lives. Cool. I will, as usual, be politically incorrect in the morning and be present at the opening meet of the Tennessee Valley Hunt. We are having a catered breakfast and, after the (probably abbreviated) hunt, a catered luncheon. And rain. Happy Thanksgiving, all. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuS003057 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D013@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:58:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:58:30 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0wTZ32310 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:58:30 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAR0wQAt000886; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:58:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126195454.00b2eb98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:58:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: <20031126232333.59349.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:23 PM 11/26/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- mene tekel parsin >wrote: > > Those kids at the Audubon Institute > > have been at it again, and Ditteaux > > now has two brothers, Miles and Otis. > > > > I Miles, but who's Otis? > >The town drunk in Mayberry. Otis also was the penguin in the Burk (sp?) Breathed cartoon strip, Bloom County. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuR003061 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D00D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:53:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:53:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0heZ31181 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:43:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0gcdI000726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:42:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:43:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Off? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: >Who is -off- today (meaning: "not at a place of employment")? I was not. But I did leave my office at 5 p.m., highly unusual for me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuO003059 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CFA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:11:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:11:13 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0BCZ28235 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:11:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127001107.LCZW1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:11:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5411B.3DA09A97@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:11:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <200311261314.hAQDE6Y00783@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Are you drinking enough liquids these days? Yes, I drink lots of water plus lots of other watery things. Y'all have been mightily loquacious today. I'm late getting online because it's been a long, busy day, including finding out while in Tupelo that the person in the hospital there is not likely to regain consciousness for several months. And her husband seems determined to sit there in the ICU waiting room for all those months. I'm very glad I went since he seems very much appreciative of visitors. But the situation is extremely depressing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuP003058 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CF9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:50 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR0JoZ28810 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:19:50 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:13:57 PST Message-ID: <20031126231357.69574.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:13:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A story about a parrot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77851@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Anyone else think of WKRP when they read that? Oh, yes! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuQ003061 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5CFDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:12 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0eCZ30707 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127004007.CUAD1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:40:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > That kind of battle is well known, but exactly what does it have to do > > with toxic food? Iow, why does it mean there's anything > > wrong with the > > quality of Wmart's groceries? > > I have not asserted anything about anyone's groceries. I purchase from a > number of different grocery stores and not just the ones we have here with > carpeted floors. ??? No time to pursue this question right now since I have to go to the kitchen and find something to eat before Survivor starts -- the something to eat being from Wmart, I might add -- whatever it is (don't know yet what it will be). But you indeed did assert something about my groceries yesterday -- something like amazement at how I could've bought food from Wmart. When I asked why you thought Wmart's food was toxic, you replied with the above re the battles against Wmart's opening in certain towns. I am aware of those battles but don't remember that they ever involved "save us from toxicity!" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuQ003058 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CFD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:32:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0MeZ29140 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0LddI029185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:21:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC54281.F553D231@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> <3FC54281.F553D231@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >effect the month after she died. But there were no extra checks. When >Bethany mentioned COLA, I thought she meant things like the raises that >occur. I wasn't paying close attention and didn't notice the thing >about "extra checks." They are not actually extra checks - the additional amount of money owed is added to an upcoming check - so in Dec. I will get the new amount plus the additional I would have received if I had received the new amount Jan-Oct. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuR003057 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5CFDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0eRZ30753 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0eR8b023907 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0eRfC004167 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:20 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot Message-ID: <791900875.1069875620@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I can't find it online, but there was a kid's movie named Miles and Otis. > I'm pretty sure the characters were animals. > > Terry Opps, the movie was Milo and Otis. Never mind... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuR003060 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5CFF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:50:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:50:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0eLZ30741 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0dKdI032560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:39:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:40:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dear God . . In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77852@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77852@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >So you wouldn't find "Ritual Sacrifice for Dummies" to be funny? I think I need Living in "3100 Square Feet for Dummies." Last night and this morning, I thought my heating system was kaput. When I left home yesterday morning (and it was pretty cold), I turned the heat off (both systems). By the time I got home 12 hours later the temp in the condo was down close to 60. I turned the heat on and turned the thermostats to just below 70. It never got above 65 last night or this morning. I decided to try one more thing - leave the heat on while I was gone today. That worked. By the time I got home, the condo was cozy. It just takes a few hours to move the temp up in this much space. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 18:59:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR0xMuO003057 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5CF75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:54:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:54:56 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAQNstZ26818 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:54:55 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11c.28af683a (25098) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:54:40 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.28af683a.2cf69740@aol.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:54:40 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] A story about a parrot To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/26/2003 11:06:08 AM Central Standard Time, plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU writes: << What was really scary, one of the Philly radio stations was advertising a turkey drop. I am not sure of the details. >> Let me know if it's like what happened in WKRP. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 19:05:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR157uO003229 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:05:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D00C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:05:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:05:06 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR0t6Z32100 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:55:06 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR0s5dI003447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:54:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:55:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC546C1.A8564D6F@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC41CDB.1A059D05@maynor.net> <3FC4AE20.26026AC9@maynor.net> <3FC546C1.A8564D6F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >? Why are you apologizing? >> >> Because you sounded quite annoyed, demanding to know "why." > >Where did you read annoyance into that? I was in no way annoyed. etc. Okay. Whatever. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 19:39:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR1dTuO003508 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:39:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D034@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:12:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:12:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR1CjZ00911 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:12:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAR1CGsb020983 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:12:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:14:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1809117135.20031126191402@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Definition of crone In-Reply-To: <20031126231754.71153.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031126231754.71153.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Crone is not synonymous with witch, but that mental > image WILL pop up. How unfortunate for you! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 19:39:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR1dTuO003507 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:39:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D00F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:09:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:09:25 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR19PZ00626 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:09:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR19Om6001365 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:09:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC54E70.109@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:08:00 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Off? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Amy Burns Short wrote: > > >>Who is -off- today (meaning: "not at a place of employment")? >> > > I was not. But I did leave my office at 5 p.m., highly unusual for me. Very much "on" as the game tomorrow is our homecoming, and we had much chaos today (and Saturday we play a team from out Sylvia's way for the State Championship). Did luck out and get supervision of the alum during the pep rally. They weren't too rowdy. I'm sipping a rum and coke at the moment getting in the right frame of mind to begin baking. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 19:39:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR1dTuO003509 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:39:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D02C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:13:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:13:37 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR1DZZ00962 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:13:35 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:01:02 PST Message-ID: <20031127000103.73020.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: SSA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Thanks. I didn't know that. You might be unique on > this service in being > a person who both earns wages and collects Social > Security. Or does > Natalie also collect Social Security? I don't think > she's old enough. I wondered about this too. The information I was given leads me to believe that females can draw SS at age 62, but in 2001, that age increased by two months per year. Thus, in 2003, Natalie would be 60 (almost), and have two years and four months to go before being eligible to receive SS benefits. I therefore assumed that she was receiving her MSU pension, and was anticipating the added SS income in 2+ years. Am I misinterpreting the SSA guidelines? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 19:41:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR1fsuO003539 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:41:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FAD08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:36:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:36:10 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR1aAZ02997 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:36:10 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:06:57 PST Message-ID: <20031127000657.18784.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:06:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Killer or Coder To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <854810409.20031126165751@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ > > > Karen Got 8 out of 10, but I have a thing for crime. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 19:41:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR1fsuO003538 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:41:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FAD09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR1BoZ00826 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAR1BgUh028235 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:11:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:13:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19065704.20031126191301@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC542CB.CDCF317F@maynor.net> References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> <375698045.20031126073524@WordWrite.com> <3FC542CB.CDCF317F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I rarely have occasion to hear Washington politicians talking. I thought you watched TV news sometimes. (Though I remember it was C-Span that made Alyce crazy.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:11:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2BwuO004069 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:11:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:11:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 768447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:11:56 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2BuZ05676 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:11:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-48.gwi.net [216.195.151.48]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAR2BsAr008312 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:11:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126210749.02a79e58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:11:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <20031127000103.73020.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >... that females can draw SS at >age 62, but in 2001, that age increased by two months >per year. ... > >Am I misinterpreting the SSA guidelines? Female or male makes no difference in this guideline. It is true that someone born in 1945 or 1944 has to wait until age 65 and two months to get full SS benefits. However, they can still take early (a reduced amount for life) payments at age 62. Not 62 and two months. Or at least that is my understanding. A widow (and I assume a widower) can draw SS on the deceased spouse at age 60. One thing I've never seen addressed is whether a person drawing on the SS of a spouse, who started drawing the reduced amount at age 62, could wait until age 65 and get a larger amount. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:31:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2VfuO004396 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:31:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D0D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:31:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 768920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:31:39 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2VdZ07966 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:31:39 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112702313301100p240qe> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:31:34 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: A story about a parrot Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I can't find it online, but there was a kid's movie named Miles and Otis. > I'm pretty sure the characters were animals. "Homeward Bound" maybe? And for some reason Miles and Otis is making think of The Phantom Tollbooth. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:36:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2aduO004461 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:36:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D0DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:36:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:36:37 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2abZ08517 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:36:37 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112702363001300du6s6e>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:36:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126183917.04542aa0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:39:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield writes, >"Homeward Bound" maybe? "The Adventures of Milo & Otis" http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097050/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000JL8E Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2rJuO004783 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:53:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D0F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:17 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2prZ09715 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127025148.CFTZ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC566C4.2939EBD7@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:51:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <1cf4eb1d0650.1d06501cf4eb@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > We already heard that Rupert and Jerry (two non-winners) are going to be on it. I bet Colleen also shows up, and probably that advertising person from Oregon (or somewhere up in the Northwest). I'll bet they picked the most contentious people. I hope Rob comes back! He was such an entertaining jerk. I remember obnoxious Rob -- and of course Rupert. But I have no memory of Jerry or Colleen or that advertising person from the Northwest. They will no doubt come back into my memory if I see them on the next show. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:53:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2rWuO004787 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:53:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D110@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:31 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2rTZ09861 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127025323.CGIA1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56724.3E742C59@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:53:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <18f30119031d.19031d18f301@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Since my blood is very similar to yours, I agree. Except that it could be a pain in the ass if we become pregnant with our Rh+ husband. No problem with baby #1. But a possible pain in the ass (or is it the arm) if you plan to have more. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:57:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2vMuO004861 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:57:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:57:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:57:21 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2vKZ10143 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:57:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127025715.CHNF1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5680B.F482B643@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:57:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77843@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > > This is a silly assertion. Some of the most popular people didn't > > win--and this is definitely a popularity contest. > > But **I** didn't make the assertion. I can dig the message up if you'd like. I'm with you, Phil. I've been fascinated by the misreading of what you said. > It was then said someone like Rupert wasn't a true survivor and as a > result shouldn't be included in an All-Star series. But I thought that was said about Osten, when somebody suggested that he would be on the all-star show. He really shouldn't be, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 20:59:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR2xUuO004900 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:59:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FADBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:59:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:59:29 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR2xTZ10309 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:59:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127025923.CIEH1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:59:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5688C.39AAF272@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:59:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77843@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1604019921.20031126084639@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > But **I** didn't make the assertion. I can dig the message up if you'd like. > > I said there were eighteen and they would likely be making choices based > > upon prior performance or likelihood of contribution of chemistry to this > > mix. It was then said someone like Rupert wasn't a true survivor and as a > > result shouldn't be included in an All-Star series. > > No, Osten--who quit. That's why Natalie said that. Natalie said what? I don't remember saying anything like that until about two minutes ago, more than twelve hours after you wrote the above. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:02:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR32FuO004963 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:02:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D10F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:02:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:02:14 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR32EZ10541 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:02:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127030208.CIXY1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56931.B600192E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:02:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <1d40321d7b43.1d7b431d4032@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > I've got you beat. :-) I am O-, the truly universal donor, and > > on top > > > of that I am cvt-negative, > > CMV. Cytomegalovirus. We've been through this before. Thank you. But I can't promise to remember it. I thought I was doing well to say cvt, which isn't the name of that Honda jeepish thing -- the thing I normally get it mixed up with. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:03:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR33IuO004971 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:03:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D131@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:03:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:03:17 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR33HZ10611 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:03:17 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:46:30 PST Message-ID: <20031127024630.619.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:46:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: SSA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126210749.02a79e58@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >... that females can draw SS at > >age 62, but in 2001, that age increased by two > months > >per year. ... > > > >Am I misinterpreting the SSA guidelines? > However, they can still take > early (a reduced amount for > life) payments at age 62. Not 62 and two months. > Or at least that is my > understanding. Yes, but I know there is something about increments of 2 months per year, because I recall trying to figure where that would leave me, and discussing it with the City Clerk when we were notified arbor the changes. > > A widow (and I assume a widower) can draw SS on the > deceased spouse at age > 60. > > One thing I've never seen addressed is whether a > person drawing on the SS > of a spouse, who started drawing the reduced amount > at age 62, could wait > until age 65 and get a larger amount. This is a really good question. Have we no CPA meebers? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:05:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR35FuO004984 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:05:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D11B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:05:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:05:13 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR35DZ10777 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:05:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127030508.CJVJ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:05:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC569E4.FF622A39@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:05:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <1d0d651d2ed7.1d2ed71d0d65@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > There are currently -- I think -- four of them. The original is a gritty little place on Bleecker Street. Then there's another on 63rd (?) off of First Ave on the Upper East Side, a one built in an old church on 44th Street in the Theater District (where a Wordsler event once occurred), and another (and this one may have closed according to my sources) near Lincoln Center. > > You don't need to get the sausage, but you'd be wise to. It's the best sausage -- from Faicco's Pork Shop, also on Bleecker Street. But I've seen other pizzas eaten. My Newfie friends were quite happy with their sundried tomato and basil pizza. Thanks. I'm filiing your message in my "travel" file. But I bet these are places that lone travelers don't feel comfortable in. That is an important consideration to me. I like to eat in places where I feel welcome and not anamolous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:07:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR37muO005022 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:07:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D134@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:07:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:07:46 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR37kZ10928 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:07:46 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a8.25986eb7 (4012) for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:07:37 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:07:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] A story about a parrot To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/26/2003 6:58:44 PM Central Standard Time, cwv@GWI.NET writes: << Otis also was the penguin in the Burk (sp?) Breathed cartoon strip, Bloom County. >> Opus is the penguin that started in Bloom County, went to Outland, and now has his own strip. And Milo Bloom was one of the main characters in Bloom County; I remember his Thanksgiving prayer in regards to the turkey giving its life so that they may eat. It ended with both his family throwing both him and the turkey outside. Bloom County helped me a lot when I broke my ankle and had to spend two months in a wheelchair. Cutter John had a wheelchair that the characters in the strip would pretend was the Enterprise, with Opus as Spock. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR39juO005047 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D137@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:43 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR39AZ11080 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127030905.CLAE1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56AD1.1CB00616@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <002401c3b439$1cc27f30$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > >give blood - gave six gallons before they disqualified me > >because I have a boyfriend. > > > >BrP > > Don't mention the boyfriend. Some of the questions do seem odd to me -- like "Do you have AIDS?" Do they really think that somebody is going to say, "Yes, sure I do." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR39juP005047 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:09:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D140@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 769922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR394Z11072 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:09:04 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:33:41 PST Message-ID: <20031127023341.31696.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:33:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A story about a parrot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > Pete: > >> I Miles, but who's Otis? > > Redding? > > You're probably right; neither the > newspaper article nor the zoo's web > site has anything to say. "Miles and Otis" (or vice versa) was the name of a kids' documentary-style movie featuring the haps and mishaps of a cat and dog together in the wild. Then there is the elevator inventor, and Cornelia Skinner's mother, I presume. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3DOuO005082 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:13:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D131@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:13:23 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR3DMZ11510 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:13:22 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:28:41 PST Message-ID: <20031127022841.13370.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:28:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC5411B.3DA09A97@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: it's been a long, busy day, including > finding out while in > Tupelo that the person in the hospital there is not > likely to regain > consciousness for several months. And her husband > seems determined to > sit there in the ICU waiting room for all those > months. I'm very glad I > went since he seems very much appreciative of > visitors. But the > situation is extremely depressing. You asked for info regarding impoundments of your friend's vehicle. You probably already know the answers by now. Be forewarned that policies may vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. If Starkville PD impounded the car in order to investigate the cause and/or details of the accident, the car may only be impounded for a relatively short time. I suspect that Starkville PD has its own impoundment facility. If so, they may charge the car's owner for daily storage, based on a schedule of nominal rates. There will also probably be a "wrecker" service charge. If not, the car would have been towed to the yard of the "rotation" wrecker service, in which case a wrecker fee and storage fee will be charged by the wrecker service. If the vehicle has been impounded pending investigation of any criminal activity that may have contributed to the accident (driving while impaired, etc., you know, the usual suspect offenses), the owner may not have to pay storage fees. That expense is considered part of a prosecutable investigation. City of Birmingham used to have a racket going with one wrecker service and garage only. The wrecker service yard was not secured, and no competitive bids were requested for the service before award of the contract. The garage was called Kemp's. That ended years ago, be should have ended years before. I am also curious as to the reason for such a long unconscious state of your colleague. Perhaps it is a medically induced coma? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)ng. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:15:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3FnuO005134 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:15:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D135@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:15:48 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3FlZ11814 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:15:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127031542.CNBE1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:15:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:15:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > old place. it was very good - thin crispy crust just the way I like it. Yay! I'm glad to find another meeber who prefers thin and crispy. That is definitely my pizza preference. I dislike the thick, goupy ones. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:16:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3GAuO005138 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:16:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:16:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:16:09 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3G8Z11863 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:16:08 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR3G6CB022476 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:16:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC56C07.8020208@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:14:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/26/2003 6:58:44 PM Central Standard Time, cwv@GWI.NET > writes: > << > Otis also was the penguin in the Burk (sp?) Breathed cartoon strip, Bloom > County. > > > Opus is the penguin that started in Bloom County, went to Outland, > and now has his own strip. > > And Milo Bloom was one of the main characters in Bloom County; > I remember his Thanksgiving prayer in regards to the turkey giving > its life so that they may eat. It ended with both his family throwing > both him and the turkey outside. > > Bloom County helped me a lot when I broke my ankle and had to > spend two months in a wheelchair. Cutter John had a wheelchair > that the characters in the strip would pretend was the Enterprise, > with Opus as Spock. We have a great Opus story book that spoofs the children's classics (Goodnight Moon, etc.) by "departing the text" while Granny snoozes (in verse). Lots of fun. Time to read it again. We just several babies born among staff members. I wonder if I can find some copies to give as gifts. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:18:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3IDuO005180 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:18:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D14E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:18:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:18:12 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3ICZ12129 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:18:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127031806.CNST1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56CEF.E1F0FA22@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:18:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > > It's not a matter of not mentioning. It's a matter of lying on a form that I put my signature to. I'm not willing to do that. I applaud you for that. Not because of blood in particular. Just the general principle. I mightily dislike lying. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:21:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3LnuO005251 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:21:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D15A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:21:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:21:47 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3LlZ12364 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:21:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127032142.COSQ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:21:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56DC6.B42825C0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:21:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Definition of crone References: <000501c3b43f$837c3300$84848744@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Very good, Bradley Dale. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:22:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3MtuO005270 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:22:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D162@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:54 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3MrZ12496 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-5.gwi.net [216.195.152.5]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAR3MpGn096913 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126221819.00bb97d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:18:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <20031127024630.619.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126210749.02a79e58@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Yes, but I know there is something about increments of >2 months per year, because I recall trying to figure >where that would leave me, and discussing it with the >City Clerk when we were notified arbor the changes. Here's the page: http://www.nctr.org/content/indexpg/washup/ss_ageincrease_table.htm Those born between 1943 and 1954 have to be 66 years old for full benefits. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:23:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3N0uO005273 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:23:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:58 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3MvZ12503 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:22:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR3MuCB026131 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:21:03 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > >>old place. it was very good - thin crispy crust just the way I like it. >> > > Yay! I'm glad to find another meeber who prefers thin and crispy. That > is definitely my pizza preference. I dislike the thick, goupy ones. You'll love St. Louis style pizza. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:25:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3PLuO005314 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D166@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:25:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:25:20 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3PJZ12650 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:25:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127032514.CPUU1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:25:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC56E9A.A83D314@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight References: <200311261727.hAQHRLZ09725@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > has married siblings How many of them has he married, and what happened? > mountain. He is a dance instructor for SCA, in Munich, as well as an > archer, and plays the recorder. Now you know just about everything I know. Ask him whether he knows any Kurvins in the Munich area -- my friend Chuck or his offspring. Chuck is also an EE by training (and still by profession). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:35:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3ZWuO005441 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:35:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D193@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:35:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:35:30 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3ZUZ13437 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:35:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127033525.CSYR1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:35:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC570FD.3CB98FF4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:35:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <1f3b521ef00f.1ef00f1f3b52@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > BTW, did anyone notice how , fake and scripted the part looked when Sandra was spying on Jon and Burton. Reminded me of the filming on a 1970s daytime soap opera (I don't know if filming on soap operas have improved since). There's no way they wouldn't have noticed her there. I thought it was a bit odd -- like tonight's following/spying. But I'm not sure that it was impossible. They're tired, the spying thing hasn't been shown in previous Survivors (that I remember), etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:36:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3aSuO005445 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:36:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FAF74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3aQZ13534 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127033621.CTFR1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC57135.594B98FF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:36:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126083126.00b2d280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Or does > Natalie also collect Social Security? I don't think she's old enough. Natalie doesn't. She isn't old enough. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:41:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3fLuO005544 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:41:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D1B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:41:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:41:19 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3fJZ14142 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:41:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127034114.CUTC1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5725A.2EE6B82B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:41:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Definition of crone References: <20031126231754.71153.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Crone is not synonymous with witch, but that mental > image WILL pop up. Not if you had attended The Croning of '93, with Brad as MC. There were some pictures of it online until the old list picture gallery got lost. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:47:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3lGuO005626 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:47:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FAFD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:47:15 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR3lEZ15008 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:47:14 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:49:33 PST Message-ID: <20031127024933.5588.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:49:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A story about a parrot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > I can't find it online, but there was a kid's > movie named Miles and Otis. > > I'm pretty sure the characters were animals. > > "Homeward Bound" maybe? > > And for some reason Miles and Otis is making think > of The Phantom Tollbooth. > > --Adam She's right in her correction. It was "Milo and Otis" and narrated by someone whose voice I know, but cannot now remember. My impression is that it was made overseas, though. "Homeward Bound" and "The Incredible Journey" are similar in content, but not the same. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:51:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3pCuO005671 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D1D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:11 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3pAZ15348 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127035105.CXUH1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC574AA.C00B081B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <20031127000103.73020.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I wondered about this too. The information I was > given leads me to believe that females can draw SS at > age 62, but in 2001, that age increased by two months > per year. I don't think females are any different from males in the SS eyes, are they? And I don't think that the age 62 option has changed, though I'm not positive of that. I do know that the full ss benefits have moved up in age. It used to be 65. For me it's 66. > Thus, in 2003, Natalie would be 60 > (almost), and have two years and four months to go > before being eligible to receive SS benefits. I > therefore assumed that she was receiving her MSU > pension, and was anticipating the added SS income in > 2+ years. Correct. Or correct in general. I am indeed 60 in 2003. I haven't counted the months until ss, though I guess I could do so -- I will turn 62 in March 2005. This is too much trouble to think about right now. It's been a long day. Don't really care much at the moment when I will start getting ss checks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 21:51:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR3pWuO005676 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D1F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:30 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3pUZ15398 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:51:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-184-130.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.184.130]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAR3pTm6027085 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:51:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC5744B.2090306@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:49:31 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot References: <20031127024933.5588.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > >>>I can't find it online, but there was a kid's >>> >>movie named Miles and Otis. >> >>>I'm pretty sure the characters were animals. >>> >>"Homeward Bound" maybe? >> >>And for some reason Miles and Otis is making think >>of The Phantom Tollbooth. >> >>--Adam >> > > She's right in her correction. It was "Milo and Otis" > and narrated by someone whose voice I know, but cannot > now remember. > My impression is that it was made overseas, though. Michael J. Fox? > "Homeward Bound" and "The Incredible Journey" are > similar in content, but not the same. The Incredible Journey can put me to sleep in about 5 minutes. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR46HuO005922 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:06:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D22C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:41 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR3ueZ15902 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:40 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:15:00 PST Message-ID: <20031127031500.29424.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:15:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC5688C.39AAF272@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, Phil Paxton > wrote: > > > But **I** didn't make the assertion. I can dig > the message up if you'd like. > > > I said there were eighteen and they would likely > be making choices based > > > upon prior performance or likelihood of > contribution of chemistry to this > > > mix. It was then said someone like Rupert > wasn't a true survivor and as a > > > result shouldn't be included in an All-Star > series. > > > > No, Osten--who quit. That's why Natalie said that. > > Natalie said what? I don't remember saying anything > like that until > about two minutes ago, more than twelve hours after > you wrote the > above. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)rs after you wrote > the > above. It was speaking of Osten, I was. He's the one who, in my view, disqualified himself. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR46HuO005924 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:06:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5D2F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:01:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 773570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:01:36 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR41ZZ17353 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:01:35 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:30:40 PST Message-ID: <20031127033040.71301.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:30:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: SSA To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126221819.00bb97d8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Here's the > page: > http://www.nctr.org/content/indexpg/washup/ss_ageincrease_table.htm > > Those born between 1943 and 1954 have to be 66 years > old for full benefits. Thank you. I thought I was losing my mind. I gather that several of us are in this 1943 - 1954 time wedge? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR46HuO005925 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:06:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:03:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 774345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:03:53 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR43rZ17810 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:03:53 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:56 PST Message-ID: <20031127031756.15260.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:17:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC56AD1.1CB00616@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Some of the questions do seem odd to me -- like "Do > you have AIDS?" Do > they really think that somebody is going to say, > "Yes, sure I do." "And because I do, I really want to give blood." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR46HuO005921 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:06:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D221@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:14 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3uEZ15840 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127035609.CZJH1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:56:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC575D9.AC30FA05@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:56:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <3FC40681.FB083D3E@maynor.net> <695444993.20031125221427@WordWrite.com> <3FC4A7E5.6B3D2D00@maynor.net> <375698045.20031126073524@WordWrite.com> <3FC542CB.CDCF317F@maynor.net> <19065704.20031126191301@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I rarely have occasion to hear Washington politicians talking. > > I thought you watched TV news sometimes. (Though I remember it was > C-Span that made Alyce crazy.) I do watch tv news sometimes but can't remember hearing anybody saying whatever it was you said that said -- sosh, soshsecurity, something like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:06:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR46HuO005923 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:06:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D275@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:59:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:59:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR3xQZ16554 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:59:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.245.195]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127035921.DAIV1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC57699.1B79D734@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:59:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126145227.00b45a40@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126210749.02a79e58@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > someone born in 1945 or 1944 has to wait until age 65 and two months to get > full SS benefits. ? I guess I should look again, though it really doesn't matter since I've concluded that going on and doing it at 62 makes sense. But I do think that what you wrote above is erroneous. I was born in 1943 and have to be age 66 to get full ss benefits. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:14:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR4E1uO006029 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:14:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FB247@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 776777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR4DxZ19527 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:13:59 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:47:53 PST Message-ID: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor stuff To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC570FD.3CB98FF4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marie Ascher wrote: > I thought it was a bit odd -- like tonight's > following/spying. But I'm > not sure that it was impossible. They're tired, the > spying thing hasn't > been shown in previous Survivors (that I remember), > etc. But if you are intent on spying, or being spied upon, why not just look where the cameras are pointed? And how do you ever forget that the cameras are looking at you? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 22:55:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR4tluO006738 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:55:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D521@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:55:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 778040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:55:45 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAR4tiZ23404 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:55:45 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:09:18 PST Message-ID: <20031127040918.24073.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:09:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A story about a parrot To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC5744B.2090306@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > > Michael J. Fox? Yes, I believe that's him. Thanks. > > > "Homeward Bound" and "The Incredible Journey" are > > similar in content, but not the same. > > > The Incredible Journey can put me to sleep > in about 5 minutes. I normally will not watch any animal movies, but Milo and Otis has some good comic moments. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 23:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR5mOuO007533 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:48:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D6BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 0:48:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 781211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:48:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR5mLZ30411 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:48:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FB42C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 0:48:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200311270548.hAR5mLZ30411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:48:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:11:07 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Are you drinking enough liquids these days? > >Yes, I drink lots of water plus lots of other watery things. > >Y'all have been mightily loquacious today. I'm late getting online >because it's been a long, busy day, including finding out while in >Tupelo that the person in the hospital there is not likely to regain >consciousness for several months. And her husband seems determined to >sit there in the ICU waiting room for all those months. I'm very glad I >went since he seems very much appreciative of visitors. But the >situation is extremely depressing. > This is very tough. I'm glad you went too. He may not sit there the whole time, but until he's able to focus on other things, I'm sure that having friends like you will help tremendously. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 26 23:57:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR5vOuO007697 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:57:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FB439@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 0:57:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 781441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:57:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR5vKZ32080 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:57:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FB40A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 0:57:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200311270557.hAR5vKZ32080@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:57:20 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> has married siblings > >How many of them has he married, and what happened? This would be a better joke abt my dad, who married twin brothers to twin sisters. some of their twin daughters were in my brother's class. >> mountain. He is a dance instructor for SCA, in Munich, as well as an >> archer, and plays the recorder. Now you know just about everything I know. > >Ask him whether he knows any Kurvins in the Munich area -- my friend >Chuck or his offspring. Chuck is also an EE by training (and still by >profession). > Will do. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 00:00:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR60JuO007767 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:00:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D6CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 0:50:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 781252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:50:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR5oGZ30643 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:50:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FB42C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 0:50:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200311270550.hAR5oGZ30643@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:50:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Definition of crone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:17:54 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Brad Grissom wrote: >> I wish I had had this for Natalie and Kay's croning >> ceremony back >> in '93: >> >> ....the crone--that sapient, intractable, >> quintessentially >> post-hormonal female >> who until some centuries ago was universally >> looked upon as a >> principal >> repository of memory and wisdom, and still >> enjoys that role >> in much of the >> "less" developed world. My crones boisterously >> interrupted, >> opined, and >> vociferated to promote their desires and >> commands... > > >When I read the word crone, I have an instant image of >a witch, but not necessarily with black magic powers. >Crone is not synonymous with witch, but that mental >image WILL pop up. > I think of Theodore Kroeber. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 01:21:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR7KxuO009123 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:21:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D8E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 2:20:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 785049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:20:56 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR7KtZ10354 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:20:55 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAR7KskF013153 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:20:54 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAR7KrQ6013151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:20:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:20:53 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Killer or Coder Message-ID: <20031127072053.GA13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <854810409.20031126165751@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <854810409.20031126165751@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ My boss and I did this together a while ago. We got 80% right. I'm thinking we are good at recognizing geeks, and it must have been that some of the killers were geeks too. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 01:41:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR7fkuO009416 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:41:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5D8E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 2:41:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 785262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:41:43 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR7fgZ11545 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:41:42 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAR7ffkF013179 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:41 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAR7feFi013177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:40 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Message-ID: <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = Phil Paxton wrote: = = > > That kind of battle is well known, but exactly what does it have to do = > > with toxic food? Iow, why does it mean there's anything = > > wrong with the = > > quality of Wmart's groceries? = > = > I have not asserted anything about anyone's groceries. I purchase from a = > number of different grocery stores and not just the ones we have here with = > carpeted floors. = = ??? No time to pursue this question right now since I have to go to the = kitchen and find something to eat before Survivor starts -- the = something to eat being from Wmart, I might add -- whatever it is (don't = know yet what it will be). But you indeed did assert something about my = groceries yesterday -- something like amazement at how I could've bought = food from Wmart. When I asked why you thought Wmart's food was toxic, = you replied with the above re the battles against Wmart's opening in = certain towns. I am aware of those battles but don't remember that they = ever involved "save us from toxicity!" A short summary for the lost: Natalie bought hot tamales at Walmart, gave blood and got woozy. In spin off threads, other people got woozy or passed out, and drinking lots of fluids was mentioned. Phil was amazed that Natalie bought food at Walmart, but was referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, and not the groceries. Since Natalie brought the hot tamales home and nuked them they were possibly groceries and not ready to eat treats. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 02:20:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAR8K0uO010088 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:20:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5D92F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 3:19:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 785880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:19:57 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR8JuZ14557 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 03:19:57 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031127081951016000ck0oe>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:19:51 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:20:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: <20031127024933.5588.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >She's right in her correction. It was "Milo and Otis" and narrated by >someone whose voice I know, but cannot now remember. Dudley Moore. Michael J. Fox did "Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey" and "Homeward Bound II: Lost in San Francisco," and of course the Stuarts Little. Odd coincidence: Fox was the voice of "Milo" in Disney's Atlantis. >My impression is that it was made overseas, though. Japan. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 05:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARBr0uO013228 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:53:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DB41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 6:52:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 790068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:52:54 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARBqsZ29903 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:52:54 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.25] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37056470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:52:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5E590.1080700@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:52:48 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Thanksgiving to all of you who are celebrating it and Happy Day to everybody else! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 06:41:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARCf5uO014019 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:41:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DB9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 7:40:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 790726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:40:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARCUxZ19864 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:30:59 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hARCTudI024076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:29:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:30:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA In-Reply-To: <3FC574AA.C00B081B@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031127000103.73020.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC574AA.C00B081B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It's been a long day. Don't really care much at the moment when I will >start getting ss checks. Posting rich! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:36:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDaguO014883 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:36:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5DC62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:36:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:36:36 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDaaZ26008 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:36:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127133631.PVEJ1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:36:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5FDDF.23365C83@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:36:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <20031127022841.13370.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > You asked for info regarding impoundments of your > friend's vehicle. You probably already know the > answers by now. Be forewarned that policies may vary > from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. I haven't heard any more about the car, papers, and gradebook. I forgot to ask our secretaries yesterday morning whether they knew, and now everybody is on vacation until Monday. > impoundment facility. If so, they may charge the > car's owner for daily storage, based on a schedule of It seems really wrong somehow to think of the car's owner being charged when any investigation would be involving the guilt of the other person. The truck ran a stoplight, and supposedly the investigation has to do with the degree of his guilt -- how fast he was going, his trying to stop, etc. etc. (That's hear-say -- not a police statement.) > I am also curious as to the reason for such a long > unconscious state of your colleague. Perhaps it is a > medically induced coma? No, it is not medically induced. It was at first, but they have stopped all sedation. According to her husband, there are some tears on the "mid-brain" in such a place that the doctors say it is usual for the patient to stay unconscious while the brain is "mending itself." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:38:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDcIuO014900 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:38:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DC5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:38:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:38:12 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDcCZ26140 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:38:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127133807.PVLD1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:38:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5FE40.73901137@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:38:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <20031127024630.619.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is a really good question. Have we no CPA meebers? I still consider Phyllis a meeber, though she has been punishing us by her absence for a long time now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDfguO014947 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:41:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DC60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:41:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:36 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDfZZ26417 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127134129.PVZF1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:41:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:41:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Yay! I'm glad to find another meeber who prefers thin and crispy. That > > is definitely my pizza preference. I dislike the thick, goupy ones. > > You'll love St. Louis style pizza. I'm intrigued by these associations of pizza styles with places. Surely most places offer a choice in styles -- most geographical locales, I mean, not necessarily a specific pizza-seller. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:43:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDh1uO014960 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:43:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DC63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:42:55 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDgtZ26522 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:42:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127134250.PWET1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:42:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5FF5A.1D0D670E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:42:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <20031127033040.71301.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Those born between 1943 and 1954 have to be 66 years > > old for full benefits. > > Thank you. I thought I was losing my mind. I gather > that several of us are in this 1943 - 1954 time wedge? I'm probably the leader of this pack. Or are there meebers who were born between January 1 and March 16 of 1943? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDiDuO014968 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:44:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5DC6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:44:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:44:08 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDi7Z26621 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:44:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127134402.PWJK1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:44:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC5FFA3.608972D9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:44:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SSA References: <20031127033040.71301.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester, I think -- in answer to the question I just asked. I think maybe he was born in February 1943. Ken Wolman perhaps also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:47:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDlKuO015021 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:47:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5DC74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:47:14 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDlEZ26863 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:47:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127134709.PWWN1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:47:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6005D.6E6B462B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:47:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But if you are intent on spying, or being spied upon, > why not just look where the cameras are pointed? And > how do you ever forget that the cameras are looking at you? I wonder how many cameras there are -- like are all the people always under surveillance, with then a gigantic pile of film to be edited, or does a single camera person roam around at random, or what? I would think that if there were very many cameras going at the same time, it would be difficult to film without accidentally getting other cameras in the picture. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:52:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDqOuO015079 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:52:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FB8B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:52:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:52:12 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDqCZ27228 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:52:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127135206.PXSP1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC60187.6F3E911C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:52:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <200311270548.hAR5mLZ30411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > This is very tough. I'm glad you went too. He may not sit there the whole > time, but until he's able to focus on other things, I'm sure that having > friends like you will help tremendously. I barely know him -- hadn't seen him in years until yesterday, but he made me feel like a very close friend. That is part of why I think he does appreciate visitors. Speaking of my colleagues, there's a cute picture and great story about the daughter of one of my colleagues on the Harvard main webpage today. I don't know how long it will stay there, but for now if you go to http://www.harvard.edu/ and click on the picture on the right of a boy and girl, you get to the story. It's about their work at a homeless shelter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:54:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDs4uO015085 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:54:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5DC7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:53:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:53:55 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDrnZ27313 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:53:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127135344.PXZL1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:53:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC601E9.A7C6F867@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:53:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Definition of crone References: <200311270550.hAR5oGZ30643@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >When I read the word crone, I have an instant image of > >a witch, but not necessarily with black magic powers. > >Crone is not synonymous with witch, but that mental > >image WILL pop up. > > > > I think of Theodore Kroeber. I do need to poke around and see whether I still have any of the croning pictures online anywhere. It will show what Proper Crones look like. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:55:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDtCuO015095 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:55:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DC7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:55:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:55:06 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDt5Z27419 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:55:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127135500.PYEW1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:55:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC60235.B47F44CF@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:55:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wicked cold tonight References: <200311270557.hAR5vKZ32080@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> has married siblings > > > >How many of them has he married, and what happened? > > This would be a better joke abt my dad, who married twin brothers to twin > sisters. some of their twin daughters were in my brother's class. Yes. I wasn't even thinking about the three-way pun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:56:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDuSuO015129 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:56:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DC7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:56:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:56:23 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDuMZ27525 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:56:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127135617.PYKX1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:56:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:56:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > A short summary for the lost: > > Natalie bought hot tamales at Walmart, gave blood and got woozy. > In spin off threads, other people got woozy or passed out, and > drinking lots of fluids was mentioned. > Phil was amazed that Natalie bought food at Walmart, but was > referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, and not the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > groceries. [But this was not revealed until a later posting.] > Since Natalie brought the hot tamales home and nuked them they > were possibly groceries and not ready to eat treats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 07:58:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARDwQuO015155 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:58:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DC85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 8:58:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:58:20 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARDwKZ27662 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:58:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127135815.PYSG1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:58:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC602F7.85CA79D4@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:58:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> <3FC5E590.1080700@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Happy Thanksgiving to all of you who are celebrating it and Happy Day to > everybody else! It's a rainy day here -- hard rain overnight, just drizzly and yucky now. I was planning on looking at the webcam today to see whether TWD is hanging out with the football fans on the drillfield, but I bet not many fans are hanging out there in this yucky weather -- and the webcam is probably covered with raindrops. It's not cold. Just wet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 08:11:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAREBbuO015398 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:11:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DCAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 9:11:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAREBUZ28780 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:11:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-118.gwi.net [216.195.150.118]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAREBSGn016830 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:11:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091040.00b2c270@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:11:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FC570FD.3CB98FF4@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But if you are intent on spying, or being spied upon, >why not just look where the cameras are pointed? And >how do you ever forget that the cameras are looking at you? And if someone is stealthily following you, wouldn't you hear the cameraman stealthily following the followers? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 08:19:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAREJMuO015537 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:19:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DCC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 9:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:19:16 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAREInZ29457 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:18:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-118.gwi.net [216.195.150.118]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAREIhGn017551 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:18:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:18:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC6005D.6E6B462B@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >think that if there were very many cameras going at the same time, it >would be difficult to film without accidentally getting other cameras in >the picture. -- Natalie I'm sure there is more than one camera. These people are professionals. They wouldn't get another camera in the shot. I wonder when Jeff gets to see the footage. Each night? I wonder when he found out about Jon's BIG lie. What incredible hustzpa that guy has. I wonder if the other contestants will find out about his lie before the show is over. Maybe they all learned about it just last night. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 08:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARESDuO015619 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:28:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5DCC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 9:28:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:28:07 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARES7Z30013 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:28:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127142801.MCGX1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:28:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:28:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > when Jeff gets to see the footage. Each night? I wonder when he found out > about Jon's BIG lie. What incredible hustzpa that guy has. I wonder if > the other contestants will find out about his lie before the show is > over. Maybe they all learned about it just last night. I had a moment of thinking that it was going to come out at tribal council last night -- something about the way Jeff looked when he brought up the subject of Jon's grandmother. I was looking forward to the reactions if he (Jeff) had announced the lie, but then I guess that's not how it works -- Jeff wouldn't have. But he no doubt knew about it by then, thus the look on his face and the tone of voice -- or maybe I was just imagining it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 08:55:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAREteuO015900 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:55:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5DD26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 9:55:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:55:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAREtYZ00474 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:55:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAREt2sb025178 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:55:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:56:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I had a moment of thinking that it was going to come out at tribal > council last night -- something about the way Jeff looked when he > brought up the subject of Jon's grandmother. I was looking forward to > the reactions if he (Jeff) had announced the lie, but then I guess > that's not how it works -- Jeff wouldn't have. But he no doubt knew > about it by then, thus the look on his face and the tone of voice -- or > maybe I was just imagining it. I'm watching the tape of Survivor now, and I have to say that NOT knowing that it was fake, I could tell something was up. His buddy is not a good actor. (If I'd been on the show, I don't think I could necessarily have told, but being an observer, it was more obvious.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 09:24:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARFOAuO016311 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:24:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5DD58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 795188 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARFO4Z03364 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:15:26 PST Message-ID: <20031127141526.49647.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 06:15:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: www.HT To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU world wide wordslers.HappyThanksgiving/all.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 09:29:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARFTpuO016401 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:29:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DD7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:29:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 795399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:29:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARFTiZ04188 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:29:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hARFTheO020325 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:29:43 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hARFTga2020312; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:29:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031127073142.00a33160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:32:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC5E590.1080700@bc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:52 AM 11/27/2003 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote: >Happy Thanksgiving to all of you who are celebrating it and Happy Day to >everybody else! Thanks, Rita! Is your bird in the oven? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARIkRuO003011 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FBB93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:28:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:28:43 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARHShZ15727 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:28:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127172837.IRKA1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:28:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC63446.3254326F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:28:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127105618.00b598c0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > have. Jon named his friend and then set this up with his friend. When he > said he was either his friend or his grandma who would come, that was > probably just another lie. Anyway, they've never send someone's grandma to > an island to walk the plank and jump into the ocean. Was it Jon who said that it was to be either the friend or his grandmother, or did Jeff say that? That's what I was wondering about -- about what happened if they called the grandmother. As you say, it's unlikely that she would come to an island and walk the plank, etc. But what I'm interested in is the process -- like how she was eliminated exactly if he had in fact turned in both names. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARIkRuO003010 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FBA12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 796143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:55:09 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARFscZ06440 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:54:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127155433.QWDA1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:54:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:54:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I'm watching the tape of Survivor now, and I have to say that NOT > knowing that it was fake, I could tell something was up. His buddy is > not a good actor. (If I'd been on the show, I don't think I could > necessarily have told, but being an observer, it was more obvious.) Something just occurred to me. How do the organizers know who to call to bring for a surprise visit like this? Do the participants provide the names in advance -- like before the show starts -- as a just-in-case-we-do-something-like-this thing? If so, how would Jon's ruse have worked? It was said that if his grandmother could come, that's who it would be -- that the friend was second in line. So if they called the grandmother, did she say she was dead? Or maybe she said she was too sick to come. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARIkRuO003013 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FBC29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:51:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 801201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:51:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARHpJZ18295 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:51:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARHomsb002837 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:50:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:52:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <148818635.20031127115241@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC63496.2FFE48FE@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> <229868443.20031127100628@WordWrite.com> <3FC63496.2FFE48FE@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> I suspect that his grandmother (whom he clearly doesn't like) doesn't >> leave the house much, let alone to the Phillippines. And who would >> have wanted to make his grandmother walk the plank or eat worms?! Not >> good viewing. > Right. As I said, it's the procedure I was wondering about. He said he named his grandmother, is all I know. > Why do you think he doesn't like his grandmother? The way he spoke about her--his tone. Dismissive and derogatory. > He said she would fully appreciate the ruse, which made me think she > was like him. Or maybe he in fact said that she was like him. QED. He's a turd. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:46:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARIkRuO003012 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FBB7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:30:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 799735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:30:04 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARHU3Z15983 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:30:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127172958.IRSH1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC63496.2FFE48FE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:29:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> <229868443.20031127100628@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I suspect that his grandmother (whom he clearly doesn't like) doesn't > leave the house much, let alone to the Phillippines. And who would > have wanted to make his grandmother walk the plank or eat worms?! Not > good viewing. Right. As I said, it's the procedure I was wondering about. Why do you think he doesn't like his grandmother? He said she would fully appreciate the ruse, which made me think she was like him. Or maybe he in fact said that she was like him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquO003098 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DDFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 796480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:06:59 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARG6wZ07352 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:06:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.128.32]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127160653.YMKX1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6211E.C101CFD0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:06:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Census Data References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77836@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton quoted Natalie: > > I find it interesting that the average travel time to work in > > Starkville > > is 14.4 minutes. I googled and found this site because I was Back to these matters. I haven't explored this website's main page. Perhaps it provides explanations about where the info comes from. Does the long form of the census ask questions like how long it takes you to get to work? What percent of the population does the long form? I've always wanted to but have never been privileged with that opportunity. > > http://www.city-data.com/city/Starkville-Mississippi.html And I notice also the ancestries given: ********************************************* Races in Starkville: White Non-Hispanic (64.0%) Black (30.0%) Chinese (1.9%) Hispanic (1.3%) Two or more races (0.8%) Other race (0.6%) Asian Indian (0.6%) Other Asian (0.5%) (Total can be greater than 100% because Hispanics could be counted in other races) Ancestries: United States (9.2%), Irish (9.1%), English (8.6%), German (8.0%), Scotch-Irish (4.1%), Scottish (2.7%). *********************************************** Why are only Eurpean ancestries given? I checked some other towns and found African ancestries included. Does "United States" mean American Indian, or is it a category for people who don't know their ancestry back farther than the US? Does the long form of the census ask about ancestry? How many USAers do you think know their ancestry -- or at least know it in detail? (By "in detail" I mean something more specific than "European." E.g., I think it was a pretty safe assumption on my part to say I was of European ancestry even before I got into genealogy.) And do these percentages mean that the people claiming such ancestry are claiming to be 100% whatever it is? I can see how that is likely with recent immigrants or possibly with earlier immigrants who have stuck together in an area of a city, not mingling much with outsiders. But I would guess that most of us are hodge-podges -- and that most people whose families have been in this country for hundreds of years don't know all the details of our hodge-podginess. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquO003099 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5DE8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 798029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARGsnZ11954 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hARGsmm6007969 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:54:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:53:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>>Yay! I'm glad to find another meeber who prefers thin and crispy. That >>>is definitely my pizza preference. I dislike the thick, goupy ones. >>> >> You'll love St. Louis style pizza. >> > > I'm intrigued by these associations of pizza styles with places. Surely > most places offer a choice in styles -- most geographical locales, I > mean, not necessarily a specific pizza-seller. I don't know. Most privately owned places around here make the St. Louis style (ultra thin crust, provel cheese -- whatever that is, etc.). A few places advertise "New York Style," which I like, and of course the chains all do their own styles. Near my parents' house is a place called Spencer's that makes the ultimate pizza, imo. Small, thinnish crispy crust (but not paper thin like around here), good, non-goopy cheese, and they lace it for you -- burn it around the edges. The shrimp and garlic pizza is unbelievable. The pizzas themselves are also smaller in diameter, so the slices are the right size for your hand and you don't lose the toppings to droop-drop. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquP003096 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DFEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:33:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 800661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:33:42 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARHXgZ16430 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:33:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127173336.ISPI1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:33:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Near my parents' house is a place called Spencer's that makes Nice name. > the ultimate pizza, imo. Small, thinnish crispy crust (but > not paper thin like around here), good, non-goopy cheese, That thinness sounds better to me than paper-thin. > and they lace it for you -- burn it around the edges. The > shrimp and garlic pizza is unbelievable. The pizzas That sounds like my kind of pizza. Shrimp is the only dead animal I like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal -- I remember that that was once discussed here, but I don't remember the conclusion). One of these days (nights) I'm going to try the supposedly exquisite pizza that City Bagel does on Wednesday nights. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquP003098 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E06E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 801953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:43 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARIKgZ20737 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127182037.JAGR1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC64075.C6E39856@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:20:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor stuff References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> <229868443.20031127100628@WordWrite.com> <3FC63496.2FFE48FE@maynor.net> <148818635.20031127115241@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Why do you think he doesn't like his grandmother? > > The way he spoke about her--his tone. Dismissive and derogatory. Does he have any other tone? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquP003097 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E075@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 801940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:05 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARIK5Z20674 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:20:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127181959.JAEJ1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC64050.6D11F97B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:20:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Crones! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/crone.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquP003100 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E0AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 802480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:46:46 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARIkkZ22699 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:46:46 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hARIkikF014063 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:44 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hARIki4U014061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:44 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:43 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Message-ID: <20031127184643.GA14055@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > A short summary for the lost: = > = > Natalie bought hot tamales at Walmart, gave blood and got woozy. = > In spin off threads, other people got woozy or passed out, and = > drinking lots of fluids was mentioned. = > Phil was amazed that Natalie bought food at Walmart, but was = > referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, and not the = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = > groceries. = = [But this was not revealed until a later posting.] = Yes, but you were still posting confused. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquO003097 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5DDF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 796429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARG5AZ07221 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:05:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARG56iM011276 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:05:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:06:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <229868443.20031127100628@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Something just occurred to me. How do the organizers know who to call > to bring for a surprise visit like this? Do the participants provide > the names in advance -- like before the show starts -- as a > just-in-case-we-do-something-like-this thing? Yes--Jon said that he'd given them two names, his buddy and his grandmother. > If so, how would Jon's ruse have worked? It was said that if his > grandmother could come, that's who it would be -- that the friend > was second in line. So if they called the grandmother, did she say > she was dead? Or maybe she said she was too sick to come. I suspect that his grandmother (whom he clearly doesn't like) doesn't leave the house much, let alone to the Phillippines. And who would have wanted to make his grandmother walk the plank or eat worms?! Not good viewing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquO003096 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5DDE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 796208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARFwJZ06649 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:20 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hARFwIAr062431 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127105618.00b598c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Something just occurred to me. How do the organizers know who to call >to bring for a surprise visit like this? Do the participants provide >the names in advance -- like before the show starts -- as a >just-in-case-we-do-something-like-this thing? If so, how would Jon's >ruse have worked? It was said that if his grandmother could come, >that's who it would be -- that the friend was second in line. So if >they called the grandmother, did she say she was dead? Or maybe she >said she was too sick to come. -- Natalie My guess would be that the contestant does indeed name a person to be brought on to the show if they do that segment, which they always have. Jon named his friend and then set this up with his friend. When he said he was either his friend or his grandma who would come, that was probably just another lie. Anyway, they've never send someone's grandma to an island to walk the plank and jump into the ocean. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquO003100 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5DE92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 798061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:56:38 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARGucZ12157 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:56:38 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:08:37 PST Message-ID: <20031127150837.52199.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:08:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > A short summary for the lost: > > Natalie bought hot tamales at Walmart, gave blood > and got woozy. > In spin off threads, other people got woozy or > passed out, and > drinking lots of fluids was mentioned. > Phil was amazed that Natalie bought food at Walmart, > but was > referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, > and not the > groceries. > Since Natalie brought the hot tamales home and nuked > them they > were possibly groceries and not ready to eat > treats.y groceries and not ready to eat treats. T This type of synopsis should be required reading in a thread of this length, questionable degree of importance, and considerable confusion. It is well-stated, inclusive, and admirably worded. Thank you from the often thread-impaired meeber. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 12:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARImquP003099 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:24:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 802045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:24:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARIOwZ21114 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:24:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hARIOuGn033361 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:24:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127132438.00bcabd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:25:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC63496.2FFE48FE@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> <229868443.20031127100628@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Right. As I said, it's the procedure I was wondering about. Why do you >think he doesn't like his grandmother? He said she would fully >appreciate the ruse, which made me think she was like him. Or maybe he >in fact said that she was like him. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That was my impression too. I don't know where Karen got her idea. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 13:06:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARJ6vuO003619 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:06:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E0EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:06:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 803003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:06:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARJ6mZ24152 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:06:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hARJ6k2f014683 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:06:46 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hARJ6hJC014619; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:06:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031127110852.00a81c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:09:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Crones! In-Reply-To: <3FC64050.6D11F97B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love it! Betty At 12:20 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/crone.jpg > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 13:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARJ7cuO003640 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:07:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E0D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:07:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 803016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:07:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARJ7TZ24226 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:07:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hARJ7SW1026355 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:07:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hARJ7QWq026337; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:07:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031127110922.00a7cc20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:09:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood In-Reply-To: <20031127184643.GA14055@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:46 PM 11/27/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Natalie Maynor: >= steph wrote: >= >= > A short summary for the lost: >= > >= > Natalie bought hot tamales at Walmart, gave blood and got woozy. >= > In spin off threads, other people got woozy or passed out, and >= > drinking lots of fluids was mentioned. >= > Phil was amazed that Natalie bought food at Walmart, but was >= > referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, and not the >= ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >= > groceries. >= >= [But this was not revealed until a later posting.] >= > >Yes, but you were still posting confused. And that is different how? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 13:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARJexuO004391 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:40:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E147@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:40:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 803832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:40:51 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARJeoZ26148 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:40:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127194045.OOFS1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6533D.47AFA9E8@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:40:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> <20031127184643.GA14055@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = > referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, and not the > = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > = > groceries. > = > = [But this was not revealed until a later posting.] > = > > Yes, but you were still posting confused. No, I wasn't confused once he clarified. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 14:01:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARK1XuO004735 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:01:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:01:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 804271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:01:24 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARK1OZ27183 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:01:24 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:25 PST Message-ID: <20031127185825.14524.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:58:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Crones! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC64050.6D11F97B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/crone.jpg Good job! Certainly don't appear to me to be witches. I have filed it in case it strays again. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 14:06:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARK6YuO004816 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:06:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E188@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:06:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 804466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:06:25 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARK6PZ27515 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:06:25 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 66CF42B8EA; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACDB2B8E6 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:06:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crones! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031127110852.00a81c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: > I love it! > > Betty > > >http://www.msstate.edu/archives/words-l/crone.jpg Fear not till Burnham woods do come to Dunsinane Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 14:35:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARKZRuO005341 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:35:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E1CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:35:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:35:18 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARKZIZ29323 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:35:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127203512.KGQX1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC66001.9FFF3C24@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:35:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Looking for TWD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had hoped to see TWD show up on the webcam, but I bet I know where he is instead. I bet he's over near all the RVs and tailgaters, no doubt getting all kinds of good things to eat. I bet he's enjoying the day in spite of the ugly weather. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 14:51:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARKpFuO005718 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:51:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E1EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:51:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:51:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARKp6Z30306 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:51:06 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.143.1d0e8c57 (4402) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:50:56 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <143.1d0e8c57.2cf7bdb0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:50:56 EST Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 5:53:04 AM, leonard@BC.EDU writes: >Happy Thanksgiving to all of you who are celebrating it and Happy Day to >everybody else! > Thanks, and the same to you. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 14:56:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARKunuO005794 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:56:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E1EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:56:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:56:40 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARKudZ30897 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:56:39 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hARKuckF014204 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:38 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hARKucF6014202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:38 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:37 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Message-ID: <20031127205637.GA14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC60282.FBFAF589@maynor.net> <20031127184643.GA14055@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6533D.47AFA9E8@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC6533D.47AFA9E8@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = > = > referring specifically to the ready to eat treats, and not the = > = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = > = > groceries. = > = = > = [But this was not revealed until a later posting.] = > = = > = > Yes, but you were still posting confused. = = No, I wasn't confused once he clarified. = Yes, but you were still posting confused. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 15:01:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARL16uO005860 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:01:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E21E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARL0uZ31393 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:00:56 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hARL0skF014221 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:00:54 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hARL0svD014219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:00:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:00:54 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Message-ID: <20031127210054.GB14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031127074140.GB13138@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031127150837.52199.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031127150837.52199.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = well-stated, inclusive, and admirably worded. Thank = you from the often thread-impaired meeber. = You're welcome. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 15:01:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARL1ruO005883 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:01:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E215@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:01:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 806008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:01:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARL1iZ31525 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:01:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hARL1hkF014233 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hARL1gjs014231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:42 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal It sure ain't vegetarian. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 15:03:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARL3duO005917 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:03:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E235@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:03:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 806075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:03:30 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARL3TZ31687 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:03:30 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hARL3SkF014250 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:03:28 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hARL3Seu014248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:03:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:03:28 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood Message-ID: <20031127210328.GD14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = Phil Paxton wrote: = = > > That kind of battle is well known, but exactly what does it have to do = > > with toxic food? Iow, why does it mean there's anything = > > wrong with the = > > quality of Wmart's groceries? = > = > I have not asserted anything about anyone's groceries. I purchase from a = > number of different grocery stores and not just the ones we have here with = > carpeted floors. = = ??? No time to pursue this question right now since I have to go to the = kitchen and find something to eat before Survivor starts -- the = something to eat being from Wmart, I might add -- whatever it is (don't = know yet what it will be). But you indeed did assert something about my = groceries yesterday -- something like amazement at how I could've bought = food from Wmart. When I asked why you thought Wmart's food was toxic, = you replied with the above re the battles against Wmart's opening in = certain towns. I am aware of those battles but don't remember that they = ever involved "save us from toxicity!" = As this was the post I originally summarized, you were obviously still posting confused at this point. Note the ???'s. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 15:29:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARLSxuO006333 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:29:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E263@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:28:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 806690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:28:50 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARLSoZ00706 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:28:50 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.128.36307d5b (3874) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:28:37 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <128.36307d5b.2cf7c684@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:28:36 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Looking for TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 2:35:43 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I bet he's enjoying the day in spite of the ugly weather. >> I hope so. Speaking of dogs, I think I've found Daisy. There was a picture in the Tulsa World showing a white-and-tan Lab named Daisy with a couple of girls at a library. This Daisy is a service dog who tours libraries in a children's program. I would have gone to that library, but the buses don't go that far south. :) I'm going to check on my next day off if that Daisy is my Daisy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 15:33:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARLX3uO006426 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:33:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FBECF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:32:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 806744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:32:54 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARLWsZ00918 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:32:54 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:31:24 PST Message-ID: <20031127213124.18873.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:31:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Looking for TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC66001.9FFF3C24@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I had hoped to see TWD show up on the webcam, but I > bet I know where he > is instead. I bet he's over near all the RVs and > tailgaters, no doubt > getting all kinds of good things to eat. I bet he's > enjoying the day in > spite of the ugly weather. And maybe find fair shelter under the trucks, etc. Perhaps TWD's legend has been heard in Oxford, and the tail-gaiters will be generous with goodies. In fact, he may pick up some tidbits about the Animal Shelters across the state. TWD and cohorts may become the first venture capitalists to significantly benefit Animal Shelters in Miss. And you knew him WHEN! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:06:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARM6vuO007040 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:06:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E364@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:06:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:06:48 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARM6mZ03454 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:06:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127220642.KTYQ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:06:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC67573.16F93986@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:06:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Eek Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How common is the name Limbaugh? Rush may be my cousin. I just discovered that the half sister of my great-grandmother married a Limbaugh. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:08:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARM8QuO007076 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:08:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E364@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:17 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARM8GZ03567 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127220811.KUDY1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:08:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal > > It sure ain't vegetarian. Why were we discussing it back in '91 or so? What was the conclusion reached? I remember saying that it was the only meat I liked on pizza, and somebody said it wasn't really meat exactly. I don't remember what was said about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:10:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMA8uO007119 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:10:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E363@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:09:59 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARM9wZ03677 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:09:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127220953.KULN1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:09:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC67631.D91A83C4@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:09:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Tamales and Blood References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7783D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <3FC547E7.BA79A8F5@maynor.net> <20031127210328.GD14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > > Natalie Maynor: > = Phil Paxton wrote: > = > = > > That kind of battle is well known, but exactly what does it have to do > = > > with toxic food? Iow, why does it mean there's anything > = > > wrong with the > = > > quality of Wmart's groceries? > = > > = > I have not asserted anything about anyone's groceries. I purchase from a > = > number of different grocery stores and not just the ones we have here with > = > carpeted floors. > = > = ??? No time to pursue this question right now since I have to go to the > = kitchen and find something to eat before Survivor starts -- the > = something to eat being from Wmart, I might add -- whatever it is (don't > = know yet what it will be). But you indeed did assert something about my > = groceries yesterday -- something like amazement at how I could've bought > = food from Wmart. When I asked why you thought Wmart's food was toxic, > = you replied with the above re the battles against Wmart's opening in > = certain towns. I am aware of those battles but don't remember that they > = ever involved "save us from toxicity!" > = > > As this was the post I originally summarized, you were obviously > still posting confused at this point. Note the ???'s. Question marks don't to me indicate confusion. I was asking how Phil could say that when he had said I had bought toxic food at Wmart and when asked about it came back with the thing about the battles against Wmart in some places. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:11:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMBIuO007130 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:11:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E37E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:11:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:11:09 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMB9Z03781 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:11:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127221103.KUPV1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:11:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC67678.35F8C68A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:11:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Looking for TWD References: <128.36307d5b.2cf7c684@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Speaking of dogs, I think I've found Daisy. There was a picture > in the Tulsa World showing a white-and-tan Lab named Daisy > with a couple of girls at a library. This Daisy is a service dog > who tours libraries in a children's program. I would have gone > to that library, but the buses don't go that far south. :) I'm > going to check on my next day off if that Daisy is my Daisy. How long ago was it that Daisy moved away? Would she have had time to become a library service dog by now? It would be fun to discover her there! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:15:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMF9uO007202 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:15:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E37C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:15:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:15:00 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMF0Z04029 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:15:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127221454.KVIB1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6775F.1B60BF14@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:14:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Looking for TWD References: <20031127213124.18873.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Perhaps TWD's legend has been heard in Oxford, and the > tail-gaiters will be generous with goodies. I don't think he's likely to wander way over to that part of campus. The one-game reservers (the fans of opponents) have their RV/tailgate/tent space way over by the vet school. I don't think it's intended as an insult to them or to keep the fans separated so they won't have fights. It's just that people pay by the year for the spaces closer to the stadium (and one-time visitors aren't like to buy a RV parking slot for the entire season). That's just as well since I would worry about TWD if I thought he was very close to Ole Miss fans. They might do something to him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:22:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMM4uO007299 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:22:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E38C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:21:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 808952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:21:55 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARMLsZ04419 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:21:54 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:39:14 PST Message-ID: <20031127213914.19157.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that > pepperoni is dead animal > > It sure ain't vegetarian. But does it nurse its young? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMPMuO007351 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E377@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:25:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:25:13 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARMPDZ04628 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:25:13 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:35:48 PST Message-ID: <20031127213548.15270.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:35:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Looking for TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <128.36307d5b.2cf7c684@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Speaking of dogs, I think I've found Daisy. There > was a picture > in the Tulsa World showing a white-and-tan Lab named > Daisy > with a couple of girls at a library. This Daisy is > a service dog > who tours libraries in a children's program. I > would have gone > to that library, but the buses don't go that far > south. :) I'm > going to check on my next day off if that Daisy is > my Daisy. I doubt that enough time has elapsed for your Daisy to have received all the training necessary, but what a great idea! Even if she's not your Daisy, she could put out the word that Your Daisy is missed and loved. I'll bet Your Daisy is destined for a great job like that when she's an adult. You gave her the magic touch. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > A scavenger hunt? How horrible! > I don't believe in hunting scavengers. > -- Bubbles __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:41:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMfJuO007564 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:41:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FBFBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:41:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:41:03 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMf3Z05490 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:41:03 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hARMf0Gp043207; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:41:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127173607.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:38:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:08 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >steph wrote: > > > > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal > > > > It sure ain't vegetarian. > >Why were we discussing it back in '91 or so? What was the conclusion >reached? I remember saying that it was the only meat I liked on pizza, >and somebody said it wasn't really meat exactly. I don't remember what >was said about it. Pepperoni is basically ground pork shoulder (with the fat) and spices/seasonings, put in a casing and (probably) air dried or dried at low temperature. Meat, it definitely is. cwv Who awoke this morning with this thought: If vegans really want to demonstrate commitment, they will have their canines removed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:42:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMgauO007572 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:42:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E3AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:42:26 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMgQZ05578 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:42:26 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hARMgNAt087963; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:42:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127174138.00b3dfa8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:42:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031127213914.19157.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:39 PM 11/27/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- steph wrote: > > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that > > pepperoni is dead animal > > > > It sure ain't vegetarian. > >But does it nurse its young? ../not any more... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:47:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMlSuO007640 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:47:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E3C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:47:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:47:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMlIZ05865 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:47:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARMlEiM005606 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:47:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:48:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <25413074.20031127164838@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor stuff In-Reply-To: <3FC64075.C6E39856@maynor.net> References: <20031127034753.76546.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127091639.00b5ec28@pop.gwi.net> <3FC609F2.719E983C@maynor.net> <31508871.20031127085653@WordWrite.com> <3FC61E39.9F33550D@maynor.net> <229868443.20031127100628@WordWrite.com> <3FC63496.2FFE48FE@maynor.net> <148818635.20031127115241@WordWrite.com> <3FC64075.C6E39856@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > Why do you think he doesn't like his grandmother? >> >> The way he spoke about her--his tone. Dismissive and derogatory. > Does he have any other tone? Yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:49:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMnMuO007658 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:49:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E3C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMnCZ05995 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:49:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARMmfsb005082 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:48:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:50:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, steph wrote: > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal > It sure ain't vegetarian. She's posting confused again. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:50:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMojuO007681 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:50:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E3C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:50:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:50:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMoZZ06074 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:50:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARMoWiM007088 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:50:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:51:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Why were we discussing it back in '91 or so? What was the conclusion > reached? I remember saying that it was the only meat I liked on pizza, > and somebody said it wasn't really meat exactly. I don't remember what > was said about it. It's sausage. I still can't believe you like it on pizza. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:55:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMtiuO007774 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:55:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E3C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:55:34 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMtYZ06300 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:55:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127225529.ZHSC1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC680E1.ACBE82A7@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:55:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127173607.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Pepperoni is basically ground pork shoulder (with the fat) and > spices/seasonings, put in a casing and (probably) air dried or dried at low > temperature. Meat, it definitely is. I'm wondering still why that question arose and what we talked about back whenever. It certainly seems dead-animal-like to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:57:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMv5uO007800 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:57:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E3C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:55 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMusZ06372 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127225649.ZIAS1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:56:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal > > > It sure ain't vegetarian. > > She's posting confused again. I'm not at all confused about the fact that we had this conversation a number of years ago. I just don't remember what all was said. I'm surprised that you, being into food, don't remember. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 16:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARMxvuO007825 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:59:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E3CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:59:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:59:47 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARMxlZ06526 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:59:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127225941.ZITU1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:59:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:59:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > It's sausage. I still can't believe you like it on pizza. I hate what's called "sausage" when listed as a pizza ingredient. But in my experience what's listed as "sausage" isn't pepperoni. Pepperoni is listed as "pepperoni." It tastes nothing at all to me like the ingredient named sausage (which I would never order but have on occasion eaten when with other people who made the decision). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:07:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARN79uO008020 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:07:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E401@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:06:59 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARN6xZ07057 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:06:59 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:26:31 PST Message-ID: <20031127222631.28900.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Eek To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC67573.16F93986@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > How common is the name Limbaugh? Rush may be my > cousin. I just > discovered that the half sister of my > great-grandmother married a > Limbaugh. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)ugh. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) They come by the carloads around here, but the name is often pronounced "Limbarr", even by the name-owners. Suggests a New English influence, but that's hard to figure. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:08:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARN8GuO008040 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E3F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARN86Z07155 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:06 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARN82Uh002391 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:09:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal >> >> > It sure ain't vegetarian. >> >> She's posting confused again. > I'm not at all confused about the fact that we had this conversation a > number of years ago. I just don't remember what all was said. I'm > surprised that you, being into food, don't remember. I would never remember anyone having doubts about whether pepperoni is meat--that's just mutant. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:19:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNJ9uO008200 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:19:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E40E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARN8uZ07192 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hARN8Psb018887 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:08:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:10:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <837322003.20031127171018@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> It's sausage. I still can't believe you like it on pizza. > I hate what's called "sausage" when listed as a pizza ingredient. But > in my experience what's listed as "sausage" isn't pepperoni. There is more than one kind of sausage in the world. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:31:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNVluO008392 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:31:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E43D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:31:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:31:37 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hARNVbZ08636 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:31:37 -0500 Received: from [65.81.225.101] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:31:15 PST Message-ID: <20031127223115.21845.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:31:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Looking for TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC6775F.1B60BF14@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > That's just as well since I would worry about TWD if > I thought he was > very close to Ole Miss fans. They might do > something to him. Please! I never though of that. It has just occurred to me, though, that he may have an "invisibility" tactic that he may call forth at will. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNguuO008511 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:42:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E443@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:42:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:42:46 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARNgjZ09242 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:42:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hARNggAt092367; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:42:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127183723.00b4ece8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:42:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:59 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > > > It's sausage. I still can't believe you like it on pizza. > >I hate what's called "sausage" when listed as a pizza ingredient. But >in my experience what's listed as "sausage" isn't pepperoni. Pepperoni >is listed as "pepperoni." Pepperoni is just that---a prepared and cured sausage that is sliced for placement on pizzas, much like salami or any of the other cured sausages are. The "sausage" you usually get on a pizza is pork sausage cooked with spices and seasonings. The difference is in the curing time before the product is marketed. I used to make sausage balls for my pizza by mixing fresh herbs and garlic with fresh ground pork, then sauteeing them and freezing them until it was pizza time. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:47:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNl6uO008561 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:47:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E435@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:46:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:46:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARNkuZ09466 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:46:56 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.2b.4bdecd1e (25098) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:46:41 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <2b.4bdecd1e.2cf7e6e1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:46:41 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 4:50:40 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Why were we discussing it back in '91 or so? What was the conclusion > reached? I remember saying that it was the only meat I liked on pizza, > and somebody said it wasn't really meat exactly. I don't remember what > was said about it. It's sausage. I still can't believe you like it on pizza. >> Sausage is one of my favorite kinds of pizza. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:51:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNpvuO008674 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:51:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FC05E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:51:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:51:47 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARNplZ09728 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:51:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127235142.MRA1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:51:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC68E0E.203842D6@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:51:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Eek References: <20031127222631.28900.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > How common is the name Limbaugh? Rush may be my > They come by the carloads around here, but the name is Whew! That lessens the chance that Rush is my cousin. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:53:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNrHuO008699 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:53:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E44D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARNr6Z09816 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127235301.NAK1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:53:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC68E5D.20B49499@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:53:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Looking for TWD References: <20031127223115.21845.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > That's just as well since I would worry about TWD if > > I thought he was > > very close to Ole Miss fans. They might do > > something to him. > > Please! I never though of that. It has just occurred > to me, though, that he may have an "invisibility" > tactic that he may call forth at will. It's true that he is pretty savvy. But one should never feel secure around Ole Miss fans, of which there are no doubt many in town right now. Who else would be going to this game on a drizzly night when there's also a home basketball game? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNsmuO008708 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:54:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FC095@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARNscZ09870 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127235433.NLA1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:54:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC68EB9.537277D2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:54:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I would never remember anyone having doubts about whether pepperoni is > meat--that's just mutant. Well, somebody did have those doubts. I don't remember who. All I remember was mentioning that pepperoni was the only meat topping I liked on pizza, and somebody got into the topic of what pepperoni was exactly and whether it would be called meat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 17:56:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hARNuVuO008716 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E45A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:56:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 810829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:56:21 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hARNuKZ09985 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:56:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031127235615.NWT1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:56:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC68F20.850416F2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> <837322003.20031127171018@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> It's sausage. I still can't believe you like it on pizza. > > I hate what's called "sausage" when listed as a pizza ingredient. But > > in my experience what's listed as "sausage" isn't pepperoni. > > There is more than one kind of sausage in the world. Well, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that in my own experience, pepperoni has always been called pepperoni on pizzas -- that "sausage" means something other than pepperoni (in my pizza world). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:06:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS06kuO008855 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:06:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E47B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:06:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:06:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS06aZ10568 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:06:36 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.113.2c1ee2bc (2519) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:06:26 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <113.2c1ee2bc.2cf7eb82@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:06:26 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Looking for TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, it would be great to find out that Daisy is having a good life. I still miss her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:08:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS08uuO008875 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:08:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E478@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:08:46 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS08kZ10689 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:08:46 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.77.1d667368 (2519) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:08:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <77.1d667368.2cf7ec03@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:08:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Looking for TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 4:11:17 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << How long ago was it that Daisy moved away? Would she have had time to become a library service dog by now? It would be fun to discover her there! >> Yes, it would be fun. The Daisy in the picture is a white-and-tan Lab, just the same as my Daisy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS0AcuO008899 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:10:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:10:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS0ASZ10775 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:10:28 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.178.22f82baa (2519) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:10:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <178.22f82baa.2cf7ec67@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:10:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Looking for TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 4:25:37 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I doubt that enough time has elapsed for your Daisy to have received all the training necessary, but what a great idea! >> I know. It would be great to see her being happy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS0CRuO008923 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:12:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E483@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:12:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS0CGZ10898 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:12:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d6.1547b543 (2519) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:12:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d6.1547b543.2cf7ecd7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:12:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is there veggie pepperoni? I know you can get turkey pepperoni. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:34:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS0YhuO009190 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:34:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FC0E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:34:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:34:23 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS0YNZ12184 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:34:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAS0YLCB001763 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:34:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC69790.5040708@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:32:16 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Looking for TWD References: <20031127213548.15270.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What's a white-and-tan Lab? Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > >>Speaking of dogs, I think I've found Daisy. There >>was a picture >>in the Tulsa World showing a white-and-tan Lab named >>Daisy >>with a couple of girls at a library. This Daisy is >>a service dog >>who tours libraries in a children's program. I >>would have gone >>to that library, but the buses don't go that far >>south. :) I'm >>going to check on my next day off if that Daisy is >>my Daisy. >> > > I doubt that enough time has elapsed for your Daisy to > have received all the training necessary, but what a > great idea! Even if she's not your Daisy, she could > put out the word that Your Daisy is missed and loved. > I'll bet Your Daisy is destined for a great job like > that when she's an adult. You gave her the magic > touch. > >>Evelyn Duncan >>brandykitt@aol.com >>A scavenger hunt? How horrible! >>I don't believe in hunting scavengers. >>-- Bubbles >> > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:40:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS0eauO009328 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:40:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E4B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:25 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS0ePZ12481 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:25 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e3.1465cae2 (3874) for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e3.1465cae2.2cf7f372@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:40:18 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Looking for TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 6:34:54 PM Central Standard Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << What's a white-and-tan Lab? >> She's mainly white with tan ears, paws, and spots. Daisy is mostly Labrador Retriever with something else in the mix. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:46:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS0kYuO009498 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:46:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E4B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:24 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS0kNZ12836 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:23 -0500 Received: from [151.199.54.165] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37079785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC69ADA.4030103@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:18 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127000639.047d7f80@mail.istori.com> <4.2.2.20031127073142.00a33160@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031127073142.00a33160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Thanks, Rita! Is your bird in the oven? > > Betty Actually, no. At the time you wrote this, we were on the road headed for my BIL's house where two turkeys were "drowned" in oil. Fried turkey...YUMMMMM.. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 18:56:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS0uSuO009652 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:56:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E509@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:56:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:56:18 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS0uIZ13685 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:56:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E4EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:56:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311280056.hAS0uIZ13685@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:56:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:46:18 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote: >Betty wrote: > >> Thanks, Rita! Is your bird in the oven? >> >> Betty > >Actually, no. At the time you wrote this, we were on the road headed >for my BIL's house where two turkeys were "drowned" in oil. Fried >turkey...YUMMMMM.. > >Rita L. Well, whatever and wherever, I hope it's been fun! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:02:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS12nuO009819 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:02:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FC127@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:02:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:02:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS12cZ14093 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:02:38 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAS12XAt098559; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:02:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:02:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311280056.hAS0uIZ13685@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:56 PM 11/27/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Well, whatever and wherever, I hope it's been fun! Indeed. The chicken under a brick turned out well, the sweet potatoes were good, the sourdough rolls were very good, as was the cranberry jello salad, and the asparagus gratin was decent. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:14:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1EXuO009991 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:14:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E512@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:14:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:14:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1EMZ14623 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:14:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS1EJUh008874 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:14:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:15:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <35231070.20031127191543@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC68F20.850416F2@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> <837322003.20031127171018@WordWrite.com> <3FC68F20.850416F2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> There is more than one kind of sausage in the world. > Well, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that in my own experience, > pepperoni has always been called pepperoni on pizzas I think that's generally true. But if you buy it in the store, the pkg usually says 'pepperoni sausage'. > -- that "sausage" > means something other than pepperoni (in my pizza world). I always check as to what, exactly, they are talking about when they say 'sausage'. Some places are explicit about labeling it either Italian sausage (which is the only kind I like) or... I don't know what they call it. Sometimes breakfast sausage, sometimes pork sausage. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1FZuO010025 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:15:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FC173@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:15:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:15:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1FFZ14701 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:15:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS1FBiM020698 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:15:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:16:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1889922106.20031127191635@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC68EB9.537277D2@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <3FC68EB9.537277D2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > on pizza, and somebody got into the topic of what pepperoni was exactly > and whether it would be called meat. I think it was a joke. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:17:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1H6uO010049 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:17:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E51A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:16:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:16:55 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1GtZ14796 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:16:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128011650.FARV2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6A202.CCC5A03@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:16:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Indeed. The chicken under a brick turned out well, the sweet potatoes were Why was the chicken under a brick? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1L2uO010190 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:21:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E520@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:52 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1KpZ15034 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128012046.FBTY2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:20:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6A2EF.CE47B076@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:20:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> <837322003.20031127171018@WordWrite.com> <3FC68F20.850416F2@maynor.net> <35231070.20031127191543@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Well, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that in my own experience, > > pepperoni has always been called pepperoni on pizzas > > I think that's generally true. But if you buy it in the store, the pkg > usually says 'pepperoni sausage'. I don't (buy it in a store). > > -- that "sausage" > > means something other than pepperoni (in my pizza world). > > I always check as to what, exactly, they are talking about when they > say 'sausage'. Some places are explicit about labeling it either Italian I just say no to it, which means I don't need to check. My favorite pizzas are vegetarian, though I do like pepperoni at times -- and shrimp at times. But most often I would choose something like mushroom, green pepper, and onion. This conversation is making me hungry for pizza. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1MLuO010219 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:22:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E533@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:22:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 812853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:22:10 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1MAZ15127 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:22:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128012205.FCDD2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:22:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6A33D.885A8ABC@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:22:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <3FC68EB9.537277D2@maynor.net> <1889922106.20031127191635@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > on pizza, and somebody got into the topic of what pepperoni was exactly > > and whether it would be called meat. > > I think it was a joke. My memory is that it wasn't a joke -- that it was some kind of discussion of the nature of pepperoni. I didn't pay much attention to the details, just remember that it came up. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:29:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1TpuO010334 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:29:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E532@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:29:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:29:41 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1TeZ15597 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:29:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128012935.FEEG2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:29:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:29:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of the KKK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A KKKer shot himself in the head by accident: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1093160,00.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:32:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1W9uO010370 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:32:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E541@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:31:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:31:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1VwZ15831 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:31:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS1VRsb025919 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:31:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:33:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <298143585.20031127193320@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A KKKer shot himself in the head by accident: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1093160,00.html "scored a spectacular own goal"?! Jeezel. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:32:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1WduO010375 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:32:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E55F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:32:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:32:28 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1WSZ15891 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:32:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128013222.FEUQ2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:32:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:32:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A KKKer shot himself in the head by accident: I said that wrong -- he shot a fellow KKKer in the head. Meanwhile, I hate that the thunder is growing nearer. It may have to be turn-off-the-computer-time soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:36:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1aUuO010433 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:36:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E56A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:36:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:36:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1aJZ16125 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:36:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS1aGiM001602 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:36:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:37:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Meanwhile, I hate that the thunder is growing nearer. It may have to be > turn-off-the-computer-time soon. When is it going to be buy-a-UPS time? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:38:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1cZuO010464 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:38:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E56E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:38:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:38:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1cOZ16259 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:38:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS1cMiM002565 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:38:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:39:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <607269182.20031127193946@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: T-day amusements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love watching Burl wrestle with a turkey leg bone. It's sort of like watching her wrestle with a dinosaur... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:38:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1cuuO010469 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:38:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E554@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:38:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:38:45 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f45.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1cjZ16290 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:38:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:38:37 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.163 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:38:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.163] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:38:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2003 01:38:37.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[57FBD980:01C3B550] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. I worked at the kitchen this morning where I was on stuffing duty. Each batch of stuffing started with *18* (eighteen) pounds of butter!!! I had never seen that much butter in one pan before. I made 5 or 6 batches, I lost track after a while. It was hectic but everything went off well and we served an amazing quantity of food. Everything looked and smelt great.The chefs there are talented and superbly organized. I met friends for dinner later and a good time was had by all. My shoulders and back are going to be so sore tomorrow... _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:41:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1fwuO010490 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:41:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:41:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:41:48 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1flZ16473 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:41:47 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAS1fiAt001676; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:41:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:37:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6A202.CCC5A03@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:16 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Indeed. The chicken under a brick turned out well, the sweet potatoes were > >Why was the chicken under a brick? Well, everybody's gotta be some place... It's a Tuscan recipe. You take a whole chicken, rip the backbone out, and then flatten the breastbone. You mix up very finely chopped rosemary, sage, garlic, kosher salt, and a little olive oil and slather the bird with this (having first rinsed and dried the bird). Then you put the bird, open side down, over hot coals. You flatten the bird with a brick (not having access to the large, square, Tuscan tile bricks, I use a cast-iron frying pan with a goodly-sized hunk of granite in it). When the first side is nicely browned (on the verge of black), you turn the bird over, breast-side down, replace the brick/pan and broil until done. It helps if you have a charcoal grill that has a fairly tight-fitting lid, but it isn't necessary---at the cooking school, he had a small grill set up in the large fireplace and used live coals from the outdoor brick oven. The whole process takes a half hour, maybe 45 minutes. What the brick/pan does is keep the natural moisture in the bird, which accelerates cooking and results in a chicken with crisp skin and very moist meat---the whole thing nicely seasoned with sage, rosemary, and garlic. cwv still using his canines. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:49:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1nuuO010579 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:49:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E57D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1njZ16989 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128014939.MQTE1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6A9B4.4CFDE54A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:49:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > It's a Tuscan recipe. You take a whole chicken, rip the backbone out, and > then flatten the breastbone. Eek. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:52:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1qNuO010595 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:52:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E586@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:52:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:52:12 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1qCZ17256 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:52:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128015207.MRIA1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:52:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Meanwhile, I hate that the thunder is growing nearer. It may have to be > > turn-off-the-computer-time soon. > > When is it going to be buy-a-UPS time? I can't remember now what the point of it is -- that your modem can't be zapped by lightning? Maybe I'll think about that someday. Meanwhile, though, the thunder seems to have subsided. The rain is pouring but without . I wonder if there's anybody left at the fb game. I should go look at the electric teevee again and see. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 19:53:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS1rduO010617 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:53:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FC19A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:53:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:53:28 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS1rSZ17337 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:53:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128015323.MRQF1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6AA93.C0F19C8F@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:53:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I worked at the kitchen this morning where I was on stuffing duty. What's the kitchen? Who are its clients? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuO014336 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E59B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:02:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:02:52 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS22qZ17882 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:02:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128020247.MTPZ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6ACC7.103AAFE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:02:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Not Bad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's only 17-0 near the end of the second quarter. We're doing better than usual. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuO014339 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E5C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:24:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:23:41 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS2NeZ19052 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:23:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128022335.NGVJ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6B1A8.594C7FE2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:23:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >Eek. > > Hey! Who said cooking couldn't be fun? Kitchen activities are for the most part appalling. I liked liver (was my favorite childhood dead-animal dish) until I first saw it pre-cooked. Gag at the thought of it now. I've deskinned chicken parts before, when making chicken dishes for dinner guests. Although I've managed to do it, I have indeed found it horrendously disgusting. (Fortunately, grocery stores now sell skinless chicken parts.) I really don't like having dead animals in my kitchen at all. And I'm talking aesthetics here, not morals. (I am content when somebody else, out of my view, has bricked the chicken or gutted the fish or whatever.) But back to the fun part. Maybe one could put a Dubya mask on the bricked chicken before smashing it. Sort of like that website I thought Verdant might like. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuO014340 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E6C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:37:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:37:21 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS2bKZ24471 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:37:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128023715.NKRC1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:37:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = > I'm not at all confused about the fact that we had this conversation a > = > number of years ago. I just don't remember what all was said. I'm > = > surprised that you, being into food, don't remember. > = > = I would never remember anyone having doubts about whether pepperoni is > = meat--that's just mutant. > = > = Karen > > I was going to disagree with the confusion a minute ago, but > couldn't remember what to call that typical-for-Natalie state. > Thank you. Things for me must be worse than I thought. I'm mega > stressed at the moment. I don't get your point at all. (Iow, I am now confused. I never said that I was never confused. I am indeed sometimes confused. It's just that I wasn't confused about things people have suggested that I was confused about. And it was not I who said that pepperoni wasn't meat. It tastes/smells/seems quite meaty to me.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuO014338 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E5B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:16:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:16:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS2G6Z18601 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:16:06 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAS2G3Gp057132; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:16:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:56:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6A9B4.4CFDE54A@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:49 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > It's a Tuscan recipe. You take a whole chicken, rip the backbone out, and > > then flatten the breastbone. > >Eek. Hey! Who said cooking couldn't be fun? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuP014336 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E6F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:50:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:50:05 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS2o4Z25952 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:50:05 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAS2o3kF014797 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:03 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAS2o2FS014795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:02 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031128025002.GB14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = > = > I'm not at all confused about the fact that we had this conversation a = > = > number of years ago. I just don't remember what all was said. I'm = > = > surprised that you, being into food, don't remember. = > = = > = I would never remember anyone having doubts about whether pepperoni is = > = meat--that's just mutant. = > = = > = Karen = > = > I was going to disagree with the confusion a minute ago, but = > couldn't remember what to call that typical-for-Natalie state. = > Thank you. Things for me must be worse than I thought. I'm mega = > stressed at the moment. = = I don't get your point at all. (Iow, I am now confused. I never said = that I was never confused. I am indeed sometimes confused. It's just = that I wasn't confused about things people have suggested that I was = confused about. And it was not I who said that pepperoni wasn't meat. = It tastes/smells/seems quite meaty to me.) Karen said you were posting confused when you said, "unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal". That quote is not confusion. That quote is typical-for-Natalie. My point was that I couldn't remember what we usually call that. That is not typical for steph. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuP014338 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E706@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:33 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS31XZ27419 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128030128.CUUQ1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6BA88.4D5DAB04@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:01:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> <20031128025002.GB14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = I don't get your point at all. (Iow, I am now confused. I never said > = that I was never confused. I am indeed sometimes confused. It's just > = that I wasn't confused about things people have suggested that I was > = confused about. And it was not I who said that pepperoni wasn't meat. > = It tastes/smells/seems quite meaty to me.) > > Karen said you were posting confused when you said, "unless we have > determined that pepperoni is dead animal". That quote is not > confusion. That quote is typical-for-Natalie. My point was > that I couldn't remember what we usually call that. That is not > typical for steph. Never mind. This is getting too complicated and too boring. Since we're into summaries: Somebody said some number of years ago when I mentioned pepperoni as the only meat I liked on pizza that it was not necessary meat. A discussion ensued, which I don't remember the details of. I can't remember what the discussion (which I was not part of other than having been the catylist since I had no idea what pepperoni was made of, though it struck me as unlikely that dead animals weren't involved) determined. My vague memory is that it was determined that it was something like semi-meat. Ok, so Natalie is typically stupid. I don't have any problem with that. That's not why I said that I'm finding this discussion boring. I'm finding it boring because frankly I don't much the fuck care what Wordslers determined pepperoni to be back whenever this discussion occurred. I am not a vegetarian and therefore can happily eat pepperoni. But I will readily admit that I am stupid/mutant/whatever for not having remembered the precise resolution of that earlier discussion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuP014340 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E736@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:18:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:18:58 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3IwZ29160 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:18:58 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAS3ItAt009086; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:18:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127221209.00b641d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:18:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:56 PM 11/27/2003 -0500, Alan Wild wrote: >Hi Clyde... I heard Paul Prudhomme talk about de-boning a chicken, duck, >and turkey... to construct a would-be turduckin... How to de-bone??? Does >it involve machinery??? Not machinery. There is a definite methodology, which I've never bothered to learn, so that things remain as much as possible in one piece. Sort of a combination of anatomy and topology. It also takes very good cutlery. I remember seeing, some years ago now, a demonstration by a Chinese chef of deboning a chicken. From what I remember, it took a fair amount of manipulation and relatively few knife strokes. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuQ014338 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:31:28 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAS3VSZ30173 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:31:28 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:44:49 PST Message-ID: <20031128024449.92043.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <35231070.20031127191543@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I always check as to what, exactly, they are talking > about when they > say 'sausage'. Some places are explicit about > labeling it either Italian > sausage (which is the only kind I like) or... I > don't know what they > call it. Sometimes breakfast sausage, sometimes pork > sausage. I find that peperoni is easily recognizable, by its shape and its packaging. Is is certainly "sausage", as it had no former life as a walking-around critter. The pepperonis of this world will not reproduce spontaneously. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuQ014337 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E759@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:32:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:32:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3W5Z30236 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:32:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS3VYsb019406 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:31:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:33:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Alan Wild wrote: > Hi Clyde... I heard Paul Prudhomme talk about de-boning a chicken, duck, > and turkey... to construct a would-be turduckin... Turducken... I had no idea you were an NPR listener, Alan! I heard the same thing--I liked that piece a lot. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuR014339 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E744@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:34:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:34:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3YXZ30394 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:34:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS3YUiM007662 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:34:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:35:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <302756436.20031127213555@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC6BA88.4D5DAB04@maynor.net> References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> <20031128025002.GB14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6BA88.4D5DAB04@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Ok, so Natalie is typically stupid. I don't have any problem with > that. Mutant doesn't mean stupid. > But I will readily admit that I am stupid/mutant/whatever > for not having remembered the precise resolution of that earlier > discussion. It's not the lack of remembering the conversation that I find mutant--it's the original premise. Some people don't think sausage is meat because it has so much crap in it--that's why I said that saying it wasn't meat was a joke. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuR014336 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E763@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:36:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:36:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3axZ30513 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:36:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS3aRsb022907 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:36:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:38:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I thoroughly enjoyed the bagel and cream cheese that I ate today. Surely this isn't all you ate today??? > And I can of course sleep more easily tonight knowing that > no animals died today as a result of my feasting -- but then the cows > that gave the milk for my cream cheese might have been abused. Surely > Bethany can give me insight into the proper prayers on this occasion. Phoebe on "Friends" cheerily wishes her friends "Happy Needless Turkey Murder Day!" Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuR014340 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E823@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:05:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:05:32 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS45WZ00962 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:05:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128040526.GPNQ2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:05:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:05:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Turducken... I had no idea you were an NPR listener, Alan! I heard the Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I think of listening to NPR as -- as in one of those things most people I know do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuS014338 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E81B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:10:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:10:11 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS4AAZ01269 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:10:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128041005.GQJG2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6CA9E.F67AEBBA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:10:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> <20031128025002.GB14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6BA88.4D5DAB04@maynor.net> <302756436.20031127213555@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Mutant doesn't mean stupid. I've tried for years to figure out what it meant. First it seemed to mean not watching much tv or knowing names of movie stars. Then somebody said no, that that was not at all what it meant. So all I've been able to figure out since then is that it means stupid. > > But I will readily admit that I am stupid/mutant/whatever > > for not having remembered the precise resolution of that earlier > > discussion. > > It's not the lack of remembering the conversation that I find > mutant--it's the original premise. ? I don't know what you mean by "the original premise." > Some people don't think sausage is meat because it has so much crap in > it--that's why I said that saying it wasn't meat was a joke. I don't remember who said it first or how the discussion went. As I said, I wasn't involved in it since I really had nothing to say on the subject. I do remember that there was a discussion and that it didn't seem like a joke. It was something like the bean-pea discussions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuS014339 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E841@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:13:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:13:53 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS4DqZ01522 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:13:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128041347.GRBE2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:13:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I thoroughly enjoyed the bagel and cream cheese that I ate today. > > Surely this isn't all you ate today??? No, it wasn't. I realize now that my statement was misleading. I ate Cheerios for breakfast, with banana slices on top, then ate the bagel with cream cheese for lunch, and tonight I ate some cheese and lettuce. > Phoebe on "Friends" cheerily wishes her friends "Happy Needless Turkey Murder > Day!" My food decisions today had nothing to do with attitudes toward turkeys. I ate whatever was convenient. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuS014337 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E842@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAS4EZZ01572 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:22:29 PST Message-ID: <20031128032229.93539.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127221209.00b641d0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Not machinery. There is a definite methodology, > which I've never bothered > to learn, so that things remain as much as possible > in one piece. Sort of > a combination of anatomy and topology. It also > takes very good > cutlery. I remember seeing, some years ago now, a > demonstration by a > Chinese chef of deboning a chicken. From what I > remember, it took a fair > amount of manipulation and relatively few knife > strokes. It helps to have heavy duty kitchen shears, and even a knife that hunters might use on deer. Be sure every blade is sharp, sharp, sharp; and be careful, it's a jungle out there in the chicken yard. > > cwv __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuO014337 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E59D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:09:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:09:51 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS29pZ18231 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:09:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128020945.MVGP1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6AE6A.A49A0D69@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:09:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: 24-0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I left the electric teevee running and went back in there to find that it's now 24-0. Still not so bad for the end of the first half. But then we're usually worse in the second half. I doubt very much that it will end with just double the first-half score. I'm guessing in the 60s-0. Poor Jackie. Poor players, especially seniors. But how appropriate that they're out there slogging around in pouring rain for their goodbye. I think everybody around here is very happy that fb season is now over. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuP014339 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E6EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS2uvZ26857 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAS2uv8b013594 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:57 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAS2utfC013242 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:56:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Clyde... I heard Paul Prudhomme talk about de-boning a chicken, duck, and turkey... to construct a would-be turduckin... How to de-bone??? Does it involve machinery??? 'Happy feasting... 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Thursday, 27 November, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! > At 07:49 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > > > It's a Tuscan recipe. You take a whole chicken, rip the backbone out, and > > > then flatten the breastbone. > > > >Eek. > > Hey! Who said cooking couldn't be fun? > > cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuP014337 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:07:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:07:06 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS375Z28109 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:07:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128030700.CWQO1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:07:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > 'Happy feasting... 'Alan I thoroughly enjoyed the bagel and cream cheese that I ate today. No dead animals necessary for a happy Thanksgiving. If I had had some pepperoni on hand, I could've sprinkled it on the cream cheese, of course. But I've never thought of pepperoni as something you could buy in a store. And I can of course sleep more easily tonight knowing that no animals died today as a result of my feasting -- but then the cows that gave the milk for my cream cheese might have been abused. Surely Bethany can give me insight into the proper prayers on this occasion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuQ014336 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5E727@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:19:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:19:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3JSZ29225 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:19:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128031922.BRIW1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:19:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6BEBB.5548CE02@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:19:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 24-0 References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127220822.00b545a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I have absolutely no sympathy for Jackie. For the players, yes. What do you think Jackie has done wrong? I'm not talking about castrating bulls, etc. I mean what do you think he has done the past couple of years to cause MSU to plummet. The decline started when Wayne Madkin was our quarterback, and the word was that the other players didn't like him. There was great hope for Kevin Fant, since supposedly the players liked him (and since supposedly he was good -- he was heavily recruited). What exactly did Jackie do to turn it all into shit? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:48:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuQ014339 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E74D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:30:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:30:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3ULZ30064 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:30:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS3UGiM005411 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:30:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:31:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <139993242.20031127213141@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, steph wrote: > I was going to disagree with the confusion a minute ago, but > couldn't remember what to call that typical-for-Natalie state. > Thank you. Things for me must be worse than I thought. I'm mega > stressed at the moment. Like Tony Blair? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuR014338 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5E81C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:00:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:00:55 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS40tZ00468 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:00:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128040050.GOOO2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:00:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I can't remember now what the point of it is -- that your modem can't be > > zapped by lightning? > > It protects anything that's plugged into it from an electrical surge. Maybe when I'm feeling especially rich I will explore getting one. For now, unplugging seems to work quite well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuR014337 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E820@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:04:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:04:14 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS44DZ00860 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:04:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.229.133]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128040408.GPHC2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:04:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC6C939.2F8B765D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:04:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6B1A8.594C7FE2@maynor.net> <789565557.20031127213110@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I originally became a vegetarian because I had to cube a huge amount > of beef for a family (only 8 of us, but that's still a lot of red, > bloody beef) dinner. I stopped being a vegetarian because of raw fish. You found raw fish less repulsive? I feel that way, though I found it hard to eat fish for a while after wandering around the fish market in Tokyo. As I think I mentioned before, guidebooks say that that's a great time to stop somewhere nearby for sushi -- after walking through all the fish slime. I found that not at all my reaction. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5mwuQ014340 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5E756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:33:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:33:51 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAS3XpZ30352 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:33:51 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:50:22 PST Message-ID: <20031128025022.93573.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:50:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC6A202.CCC5A03@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Indeed. The chicken under a brick turned out > well, the sweet potatoes were > > Why was the chicken under a brick? It was hiding, being pursued by one of Bonniev's cats, or being pursued by an entity that will some day join ranks with others to become pepperoni. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5qEuO014457 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FC215@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:31:31 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS2VUZ19519 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:31:31 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAS2VTkF014768 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:31:29 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAS2VSEu014766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:31:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:31:28 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: = > Karen Kay wrote: = >> > = like on pizzas (unless we have determined that pepperoni is dead animal = >> = >> > It sure ain't vegetarian. = >> = >> She's posting confused again. = = > I'm not at all confused about the fact that we had this conversation a = > number of years ago. I just don't remember what all was said. I'm = > surprised that you, being into food, don't remember. = = I would never remember anyone having doubts about whether pepperoni is = meat--that's just mutant. = = Karen I was going to disagree with the confusion a minute ago, but couldn't remember what to call that typical-for-Natalie state. Thank you. Things for me must be worse than I thought. I'm mega stressed at the moment. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5qEuO014461 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FC370@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:02:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:02:04 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAS424Z00665 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:02:04 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:57:52 PST Message-ID: <20031128025752.75052.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:57:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > A KKKer shot himself in the head by accident: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1093160,00.html Possibly he could pass his jail term (if convicted, of course) profitably by reading Mr. Gleick's book. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5qEuO014459 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FC2A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:27:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:27:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3RDZ29801 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:27:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS3Qfsb015900 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:26:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:28:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Meanwhile, I hate that the thunder is growing nearer. It may have to be >> > turn-off-the-computer-time soon. >> >> When is it going to be buy-a-UPS time? > I can't remember now what the point of it is -- that your modem can't be > zapped by lightning? It protects anything that's plugged into it from an electrical surge. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5qEuP014457 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:52:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FC62C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 0:09:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 826032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:09:32 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAS59WZ06628 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:09:32 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:56:31 PST Message-ID: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Turducken... I had no idea you were an NPR > listener, Alan! I heard the > > Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I > think of listening to > NPR as -- as in one of those things most > people I know do. How could it be standard? Here, to most people, it is an unknown acronym. MOST people do not listen to classical music, nor are they interested in the other features offered by NPR. MOST people you know share many of your interests and philosophies, so they probably do listen. There are also 100's of commercial radio stations out there that MOST people listen to, and a lot of NPR listeners probably do not listen to NPR exclusively. And I will add insult to injury (not for the first time) by saying that NPR has a definite liberal bias, which please its listeners and "turns off" some of its potential listeners. If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5qEuO014458 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FC2BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:11:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:11:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3BIZ28432 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:11:18 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-171.gwi.net [216.195.150.171]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAS3BEAt008640; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:11:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127220822.00b545a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:09:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 24-0 In-Reply-To: <3FC6AE6A.A49A0D69@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:09 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I left the electric teevee running and went back in there to find that >it's now 24-0. Still not so bad for the end of the first half. But >then we're usually worse in the second half. I doubt very much that it >will end with just double the first-half score. I'm guessing in the >60s-0. Poor Jackie. Poor players, especially seniors. I have absolutely no sympathy for Jackie. For the players, yes. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 27 23:52:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS5qEuO014460 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FC2A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:29:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:29:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS3TsZ29986 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:29:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAS3TFsb017799 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:29:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:31:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <789565557.20031127213110@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6B1A8.594C7FE2@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6B1A8.594C7FE2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I really > don't like having dead animals in my kitchen at all. And I'm talking > aesthetics here, not morals. (I am content when somebody else, out of > my view, has bricked the chicken or gutted the fish or whatever.) I originally became a vegetarian because I had to cube a huge amount of beef for a family (only 8 of us, but that's still a lot of red, bloody beef) dinner. I stopped being a vegetarian because of raw fish. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 01:25:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAS7PNuO016267 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:25:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5ECDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 2:25:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 829964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:25:10 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAS7PAZ16167 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:25:10 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.195.23290bf7 (4012) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:24:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <195.23290bf7.2cf85246@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 02:24:54 EST Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/27/2003 7:49:56 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >> It's a Tuscan recipe. You take a whole chicken, rip the backbone out, >and >> then flatten the breastbone. > Sounds great. My dau came over with her friend, and a ham dinner for all of us. Mashed potatoes, yams, green beans, and gravy. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:03:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASC2xuO019987 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:02:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:02:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:02:44 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASC2hZ16852 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:02:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128120238.HOEC1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:02:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7395F.7F8B307C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:02:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I > > think of listening to > > NPR as -- as in one of those things most > > people I know do. ^^^^^^ > > How could it be standard? Here, to most people, it is > an unknown acronym. MOST people do not listen to > classical music, nor are they interested in the other Note that I said "most people I know." I know Alan. I have no idea what most people I don't know do or don't listen to. > And I will add insult to injury (not for the first > time) by saying that NPR has a definite liberal bias, That I wasn't aware of. (I listen to it whenever I'm in my car, which isn't usually for long enough periods of time to be an expert on it.) > If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the > affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, > intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. I don't get this part. It's not pay-per-listen. The number of ears pointed toward it doesn't affect its budget if they don't contribute. But then I guess people do tend to contribute to causes they appreciate. (And I'd say that quite a few people around here do contribute since those little Beethoven-head stickers are on lots and lots and lots of cars I see everyday -- and those are only the people who decide to put the stickers on their cars -- I never have.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:07:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASC7tuO020067 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:07:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:07:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:07:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASC7dZ17288 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:07:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASC75sb005650 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:07:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:09:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Maybe when I'm feeling especially rich I will explore getting one. For > now, unplugging seems to work quite well. UPS's are hardly a luxury item, but it's good that you don't mind having your computer life dictated by the whims of the weather, then. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:08:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASC8luO020089 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:08:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:08:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:08:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASC8VZ17354 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:08:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASC8RUh007099 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:08:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:09:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <171090044.20031128060954@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6C939.2F8B765D@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6B1A8.594C7FE2@maynor.net> <789565557.20031127213110@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C939.2F8B765D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > You found raw fish less repulsive? Yes--I found it totally yummy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCA8uO020154 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:10:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:09:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:09:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASC9rZ17470 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:09:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASC9Jsb006311 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:09:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:11:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1035332371.20031128061118@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> Turducken... I had no idea you were an NPR listener, Alan! I heard the > Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I think of listening to > NPR as -- as in one of those things most people I know do. Has 'Alan been to Europe? I know lots of NPR listeners--but I also know lots of non-NPR listeners. Do you think your RRB listens to NPR? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:10:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCAruO020174 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:10:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EE49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:10:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:10:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCAbZ17566 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:10:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASCAXiM011933 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:10:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:12:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1151729163.20031128061200@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FC6CA9E.F67AEBBA@maynor.net> References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> <20031128025002.GB14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6BA88.4D5DAB04@maynor.net> <302756436.20031127213555@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CA9E.F67AEBBA@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> Mutant doesn't mean stupid. > I've tried for years to figure out what it meant. First it seemed to > mean not watching much tv or knowing names of movie stars. Then > somebody said no, that that was not at all what it meant. So all I've > been able to figure out since then is that it means stupid. >> > But I will readily admit that I am stupid/mutant/whatever >> > for not having remembered the precise resolution of that earlier >> > discussion. >> >> It's not the lack of remembering the conversation that I find >> mutant--it's the original premise. > ? I don't know what you mean by "the original premise." That pepperoni is not meat. >> Some people don't think sausage is meat because it has so much crap in >> it--that's why I said that saying it wasn't meat was a joke. > I don't remember who said it first or how the discussion went. As I > said, I wasn't involved in it since I really had nothing to say on the > subject. I do remember that there was a discussion and that it didn't > seem like a joke. It was something like the bean-pea discussions. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:12:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCC7uO020194 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:11:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:11:52 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCBqZ17617 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:11:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128121146.HQEK1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:11:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:11:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Maybe when I'm feeling especially rich I will explore getting one. For > > now, unplugging seems to work quite well. > > UPS's are hardly a luxury item, but it's good that you don't mind > having your computer life dictated by the whims of the weather, then. They might not be a luxury item for a business -- as in some place where turning off the computer in a thunderstorm might be impossible or highly impractical. But for an ordinary person like me I would say they're non-essential. Do they work 100%? I'm not sure I would feel confident of its ability. When everything is unplugged, I feel . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:14:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCEBuO020216 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:14:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:13:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCDtZ17771 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASCDpUh008661 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:13:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:15:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <755062412.20031128061518@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > MOST people do not listen to > classical music, nor are they interested in the other > features offered by NPR. Lots of NPR stations offer no classical music. The station I listened to in the BA didn't, and the one here doesn't. > If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the > affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, > intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. This is silly. "Listening to" and "paying for" are not the same thing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:16:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCGkuO020306 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:16:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:16:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:16:31 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCGVZ17997 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:16:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128121625.HRHM1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:16:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC73C9A.F5CB179E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:16:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> <1035332371.20031128061118@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I think of listening to > > NPR as -- as in one of those things most people I know do. > > Has 'Alan been to Europe? I don't know. Have most NPR listeners been to Europe? > I know lots of NPR listeners--but I also know lots of non-NPR > listeners. Do you think your RRB listens to NPR? I have no idea what my RRB listens to. It would seem reasonable to conclude that he turns on the car radio, and it seems reasonable to conclude that NPR would be a logical setting for its dial, but I don't really know. They seem to spend lots of their driving time talking on telephones -- they've done that for years -- were the first people I ever heard of with car phones. But when I talk about "people I know," I tend to be referring to people I'm around regularly -- friends and acquaintances, not people like my RRB&SIL, whom I have had a with but otherwise wouldn't know and whom I haven't seen or heard from in many months now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:16:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCGpuO020309 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:16:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EE4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:16:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:16:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCGZZ18003 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:16:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASCGGiM013596 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:16:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:17:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <44576734.20031128061739@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > They might not be a luxury item for a business -- as in some place where > turning off the computer in a thunderstorm might be impossible or highly > impractical. But for an ordinary person like me I would say they're > non-essential. Are those the only two categories of objects, essential and luxury? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:19:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCJMuO020399 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:19:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:19:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:19:07 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCJ7Z18212 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:19:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128121902.HRWD1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:19:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC73D37.ED1586C1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:19:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6B4DC.8ADAF680@maynor.net> <20031128025002.GB14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC6BA88.4D5DAB04@maynor.net> <302756436.20031127213555@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CA9E.F67AEBBA@maynor.net> <1151729163.20031128061200@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> It's not the lack of remembering the conversation that I find > >> mutant--it's the original premise. > > > ? I don't know what you mean by "the original premise." > > That pepperoni is not meat. Ah. I guess I was being paranoid. That was somebody else's premise (brought up by me in the recent thread as an allusion -- as we often allude to old Words-L matters). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:21:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCLwuO020424 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:21:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:21:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:21:34 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCLXZ18935 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:21:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128122128.HSJB1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC73DC9.B6BCBBFB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:21:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> <44576734.20031128061739@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Are those the only two categories of objects, essential and luxury? I would say so. If it's non-essential, it's extra -- something you choose to indulge yourself with -- a luxury. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:22:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCMXuO020432 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:22:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EE5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:22:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:22:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCMHZ19103 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:22:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASCMEiM015255 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:22:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:23:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <332749819.20031128062341@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC73C9A.F5CB179E@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> <1035332371.20031128061118@WordWrite.com> <3FC73C9A.F5CB179E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I think of listening to >> > NPR as -- as in one of those things most people I know do. >> >> Has 'Alan been to Europe? > I don't know. Have most NPR listeners been to Europe? I don't think necessarily MOST, but a good percentage--at least 40$. >> I know lots of NPR listeners--but I also know lots of non-NPR >> listeners. Do you think your RRB listens to NPR? > I have no idea what my RRB listens to. It would seem reasonable to > conclude that he turns on the car radio, and it seems reasonable to > conclude that NPR would be a logical setting for its dial, but I don't > really know. They seem to spend lots of their driving time talking on > telephones -- they've done that for years -- were the first people I > ever heard of with car phones. But when I talk about "people I know," I > tend to be referring to people I'm around regularly -- friends and > acquaintances, not people like my RRB&SIL, whom I have had a > with but otherwise wouldn't know and whom I haven't seen or > heard from in many months now. Well, I'd be very surprised if NPR is one of the settings on his radio. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCOTuO020458 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:24:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:24:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:24:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCOEZ19187 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:24:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASCOAUh011498 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:24:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:25:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <379781502.20031128062537@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC73DC9.B6BCBBFB@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> <44576734.20031128061739@WordWrite.com> <3FC73DC9.B6BCBBFB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> Are those the only two categories of objects, essential and luxury? > I would say so. If it's non-essential, it's extra -- something you > choose to indulge yourself with -- a luxury. Thanks for a glimpse into your world. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:45:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCj3uO020753 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:45:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:44:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:47 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCilZ20211 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-91.gwi.net [216.195.152.91]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASCijAr028905 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128074310.00b92188@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6B1A8.594C7FE2@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I really don't like having dead animals in my kitchen at all. And I'm talking >aesthetics here, not morals. (I am content when somebody else, out of >my view, has bricked the chicken or gutted the fish or whatever.) > -- Natalie Interestingly, I'm just like you. Clyde rips the back out of the chicken out of my sight. And he brings my portion of the chicken to the table in non-recognizable parts, as in sliced breast meat. I avert my eyes as he chows down the legs and the wings, veins in this teeth. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:46:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCkduO020764 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:46:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EE6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:46:24 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCkOZ20320 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:46:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128124618.XMQV1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:46:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:46:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Att: Bethany Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There's an article that extensively quotes Guy in today's NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/28/national/28TWAN.html?pagewanted=1&hp -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:51:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCpiuO020806 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:51:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FC98F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:51:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:51:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCpSZ20653 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:51:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-91.gwi.net [216.195.152.91]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASCpQAr029470 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:51:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128074914.00b4b528@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:51:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It protects anything that's plugged into it from an electrical surge. >Karen We have our computers and our TV plugged into surge protectors. But if I ever lived in the Southeast again (which I most assuredly will not), I would still turn off a computer during one of those thunderstorms that go on for an hour and involve many, many lightning hits. I would also stay off the phone. I have seen what happens when lightning enters the house through the phone line. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 06:55:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASCt7uO020843 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:55:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 7:54:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:54:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASCiqZ20226 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:52 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASChndI019820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:43:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: Surely >Bethany can give me insight into the proper prayers on this occasion. Of course I can, sweetie! And just as soon as you appear ready for them, I shall provide. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:01:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASD1nuO020976 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:01:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:01:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASD1XZ21208 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-91.gwi.net [216.195.152.91]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASD1VAr030535 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128080020.00ba4eb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <3FC73DC9.B6BCBBFB@maynor.net> References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> <44576734.20031128061739@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I would say so. If it's non-essential, it's extra -- something you >choose to indulge yourself with -- a luxury. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Which reminds me to ask, have you ever used your DVD player again after that initial use? Home Depot, of all places, has an incredible deal today on a Magnavox 19 inch TV/DVD/VCR combo for a mere $179. I'm tempted for the upstairs bedroom. But I don't think I will. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:06:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASD6ouO021026 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:06:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:06:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:06:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASD6YZ21425 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:06:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-91.gwi.net [216.195.152.91]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASD6WAr030920 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:06:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128080314.00ba7b90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:06:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <755062412.20031128061518@WordWrite.com> References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Lots of NPR stations offer no classical music. The station I listened >to in the BA didn't, and the one here doesn't. >Karen For awhile, a number of years ago, the Maine NPR stations (they are all one station actually) decided to stop playing classical music. That's when we, and many others, stopped listening to them and started listing to WBACH. I have conclusive evidence that non-liberals don't listen to NPR: at my stitch'n'bitch this week we talked about Prairie Home Companion and Car Talk. The ultra-conservative woman in the group knew nothing about either one. The ultra-liberal in the group could quote chapter and verse of both shows. I fell some place in between. For example, I didn't know about the Detective Noir part of Prairie Home Companion. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:18:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDIXuO021186 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:18:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FC9B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:18:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:18:18 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDIHZ22278 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:18:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128131812.OYAJ1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:18:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC74B15.FE7F4B2F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:18:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of the KKK References: <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <1771517939.20031127212835@WordWrite.com> <3FC6C872.6636D8E0@maynor.net> <921358691.20031128060904@WordWrite.com> <3FC73B83.3736CD2A@maynor.net> <44576734.20031128061739@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128080020.00ba4eb0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Which reminds me to ask, have you ever used your DVD player again after > that initial use? No, I haven't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:22:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDMZuO021244 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:22:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EE77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:22:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:22:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDMKZ22642 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:22:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FC9B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:22:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:22:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:06:41 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Lots of NPR stations offer no classical music. The station I listened >>to in the BA didn't, and the one here doesn't. >>Karen > >For awhile, a number of years ago, the Maine NPR stations (they are all one >station actually) decided to stop playing classical music. That's when we, >and many others, stopped listening to them and started listing to WBACH. > >I have conclusive evidence that non-liberals don't listen to NPR: at my >stitch'n'bitch this week we talked about Prairie Home Companion and Car >Talk. The ultra-conservative woman in the group knew nothing about either >one. The ultra-liberal in the group could quote chapter and verse of both >shows. I fell some place in between. For example, I didn't know about the >Detective Noir part of Prairie Home Companion. > > >bonnie Among your S&B companions, you have conclusive proof. I, for instance, don't listen to NPR radio. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDNEuO021249 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EE8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:22:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:22:58 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDMwZ22698 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:22:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128132253.OYVO1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:22:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC74C2E.892FF147@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:22:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128080314.00ba7b90@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > shows. I fell some place in between. For example, I didn't know about the > Detective Noir part of Prairie Home Companion. I know almost nothing about Prairie Home Companion. It must come on at a time I'm not likely to be in my car. I started to say that I've never heard it at all, but I think that's not true. I have a very vague memory of hearing a man talking in a sort of soupy voice about Lake Woebegone. It's definitely not among my regular catches on NPR, though. My regulars are snippets of Morning Edition, All Things Considered, Car Talk, that thing right after Car Talk that I never can remember the name of (Michael Feldman? What Do You Know?), From the Top, and music. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:24:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDO0uO021257 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:24:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FC9B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:23:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:23:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDDjZ21899 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:13:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASDChdI025442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:12:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:13:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany In-Reply-To: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >There's an article that extensively quotes Guy in today's NYT: > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/28/national/28TWAN.html?pagewanted=1&hp Thanks, Natalie! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:37:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDbnuO021463 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:37:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EEB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:37:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:37:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDRXZ23009 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:27:33 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASDQVdI028110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:26:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:27:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Among your S&B companions, you have conclusive proof. I, for instance, don't >listen to NPR radio. I would not live anywhere that did not have NPR. But I also think that I listen to it simply because it beats the heck out of all the alternatives. Only NPR has news + commentary (including the reading of letters from listeners who object to NPR's occasional liberal bias) + entertainment + jazz + classical music + opera + announcements of local arts events. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDlluO021674 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:47:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EEBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:47:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:47:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDlVZ24209 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:47:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASDlSUh011558 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:47:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:48:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <22501213.20031128074855@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany In-Reply-To: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> References: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > There's an article that extensively quotes Guy in today's NYT: > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/28/national/28TWAN.html?pagewanted=1&hp What is a flat 'I'? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDoZuO021693 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:50:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EEC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:50:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:50:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDoJZ24401 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:50:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASDoGUh012788 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:50:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:51:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1974348058.20031128075144@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of the KKK In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128074914.00b4b528@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <3FC6A500.F5AF890D@maynor.net> <3FC6A5A7.209B6C75@maynor.net> <1161026826.20031127193740@WordWrite.com> <3FC6AA47.215070BA@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128074914.00b4b528@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > We have our computers and our TV plugged into surge protectors. But if I > ever lived in the Southeast again (which I most assuredly will not), I > would still turn off a computer during one of those thunderstorms that go > on for an hour and involve many, many lightning hits. I would also stay > off the phone. I have seen what happens when lightning enters the house > through the phone line. You can plug a phone into many UPS's. And the point of a UPS is not that it protects from surges as much as it allows graceful shutdown of a computer. But I think the surge protection you get from a UPS is greater than from a common or garden variety surge protector--that's just an opinion, based on no evidence. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:52:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDqiuO021720 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:52:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EEC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:52:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:52:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDqRZ24535 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:52:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASDpssb027857 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:51:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:53:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <687929617.20031128075354@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128080314.00ba7b90@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128080314.00ba7b90@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > shows. I fell some place in between. For example, I didn't know about the > Detective Noir part of Prairie Home Companion. Guy Noir. So do you think 'Alan is a closet liberal? He works for a university, after all... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 07:58:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASDvxuO021804 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:58:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EED6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 8:57:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:57:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASDvhZ24785 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:57:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASDvAsb001360 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:57:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:59:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Only NPR has news + commentary (including the reading of letters from > listeners who object to NPR's occasional liberal bias) + entertainment > + jazz + classical music + opera + announcements of local arts events. Not all NPR stations have music; the one in the BA doesn't have any music at all. The one here, as one might expect, has a large variety of excellent music shows. Many of the people who have the shows are musicians themselves. No opera, no classical music except incidentally, very little jazz. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASE24uO021876 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:02:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EEDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:01:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:01:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASE1mZ25051 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:01:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASE1jiM019943 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:03:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1294566123.20031128080312@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Happy Black Friday! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For those who celebrate. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:05:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASE56uO021911 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:05:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EEDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:04:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:04:50 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASE4oZ25338 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:04:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASE4kGp078993; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:04:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128084710.00b19ae8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:54:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 24-0 In-Reply-To: <3FC6BEBB.5548CE02@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127220822.00b545a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:19 PM 11/27/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > I have absolutely no sympathy for Jackie. For the players, yes. > >What do you think Jackie has done wrong? I He inherited the team that the Pittsburg alumni bought for Johnny Majors (he got the job when Johnny went home to Tennessee, which is closer to the Jack Daniels distillery). After that stream of talent ran out, he went to Texas A&M, which ended up on NCAA probation. He had to leave there but MSU was sufficiently desperate to hire him. The bull trick was simply another manifestation. Everywhere he goes, he leaves a slime trail. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEQquO022153 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EF19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:36 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEQZZ26946 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:26:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASEQYCB022910 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:26:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC75ACB.30005@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:25:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >>Only NPR has news + commentary (including the reading of letters from >>listeners who object to NPR's occasional liberal bias) + entertainment >>+ jazz + classical music + opera + announcements of local arts events. >> > > Not all NPR stations have music; the one in the BA doesn't have any > music at all. The one here, as one might expect, has a large variety > of excellent music shows. Many of the people who have the shows are > musicians themselves. No opera, no classical music except > incidentally, very little jazz. No music here. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEYeuO022248 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:34:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FCA4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:34:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:34:18 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEYIZ27992 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:34:18 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASEYDGR007979 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:34:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC75C96.3070601@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:32:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC7395F.7F8B307C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the >>affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, >>intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. >> > > I don't get this part. It's not pay-per-listen. The number of ears > pointed toward it doesn't affect its budget if they don't contribute. > But then I guess people do tend to contribute to causes they > appreciate. (And I'd say that quite a few people around here do > contribute since those little Beethoven-head stickers are on lots and > lots and lots of cars I see everyday -- and those are only the people > who decide to put the stickers on their cars -- I never have.) I don't think "most" people listen to NPR. There's a demographic. I'm sure somebody has pinpointed that demographic, but it includes avid readers I'm pretty sure. I listen to NPR in my kitchen. Sometimes I send them money. I haven't in a couple of years, though. I'm a freeloader. I figure I fork over plenty thousands of dollars to UMSL every year at this point in my life, and I don't wish to send them any more. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEYpuO022253 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:34:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EF42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:34:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:34:34 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEYYZ28019 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:34:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128143429.VIWZ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:34:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC75CF6.BB038892@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:34:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany References: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> <22501213.20031128074855@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > What is a flat 'I'? I don't do this stuff anymore. But I think it's a slightly lower/looser [I] -- moving to schwa kind of. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:35:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEZfuO022258 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:35:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:35:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:35:25 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hASEZPZ28154 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:35:25 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:13:47 PST Message-ID: <20031128141347.47461.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <755062412.20031128061518@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote:On Thursday, November 27, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: This is silly. "Listening to" and "paying for" are not the same thing. I find it hard to believe that the bulk of private donations that go to subsidize NPR come from non-listeners. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:37:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEbSuO022280 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:37:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:37:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:37:11 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEbBZ28276 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:37:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASEbAGR008810 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:37:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:35:51 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > >>>I thoroughly enjoyed the bagel and cream cheese that I ate today. >>> >>Surely this isn't all you ate today??? >> > > No, it wasn't. I realize now that my statement was misleading. I ate > Cheerios for breakfast, with banana slices on top, then ate the bagel > with cream cheese for lunch, and tonight I ate some cheese and lettuce. You should have brought Spencer here. He could have split the giblets with Vinnie. I made about 7x more food than we could eat. I plan to use the Southern Living recipe for creamed chicken later today to make creamed turkey over biscuits for dinner. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:38:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEcGuO022288 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:38:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EF41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:38:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:38:00 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEc0Z28337 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:38:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128143755.VJTN1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:37:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC75DC4.AF2882D2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:37:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 24-0 References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127220822.00b545a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128084710.00b19ae8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > I have absolutely no sympathy for Jackie. For the players, yes. > > > >What do you think Jackie has done wrong? I > > He inherited the team that the Pittsburg alumni bought for Johnny Majors > (he got the job when Johnny went home to Tennessee, which is closer to the > Jack Daniels distillery). After that stream of talent ran out, he went to > Texas A&M, which ended up on NCAA probation. He had to leave there but MSU > was sufficiently desperate to hire him. The bull trick was simply another > manifestation. Everywhere he goes, he leaves a slime trail. Ah yes. He is not a . I think I've mentioned before that when he was about to be hired here, there was a Faculty Senate vote on a resolution against hiring crooked coaches. I voted against the resolution, not because I was pro-Jackie but because I thought such a resolution was silly -- that we would need then to pass resolutions against hiring crooked provosts or crooked anybodys. I was reading your "no sympathy" as something having to do with his responsibility in the disaster our fb team has become. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:41:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEfuuO022350 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:41:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EF51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:41:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:41:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEfeZ28566 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:41:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASEfaiM008847 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:41:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:43:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1164895519.20031128084304@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031128141347.47461.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031128141347.47461.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Karen Kay wrote:On Thursday, > November 27, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > This is silly. "Listening to" and "paying for" are not > the same thing. > I find it hard to believe that the bulk of private > donations that go to subsidize NPR come from non-listeners. I don't know about your station, but most of the support for my local station comes from business contributions. (Over 80% IIRC.) I suspect that many of those business owners see NPR as a good cause, and maybe good for business, but don't listen to it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:42:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEgXuO022361 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:42:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EF52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:42:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:42:17 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEgGZ28632 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:42:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128144211.VKYO1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:42:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC75EC4.F0D63C17@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:42:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Not all NPR stations have music; the one in the BA doesn't have any > music at all. The one here, as one might expect, has a large variety > of excellent music shows. Many of the people who have the shows are > musicians themselves. No opera, no classical music except > incidentally, very little jazz. I forgot to name things like Sound and Spirit when naming things I sometimes hear on PRM. I also like hearing snippets of interviews with music-related people at times. Mainly, however, I am unhappy right now that cold wind is blowing wildly. I am not feeling enthusiastic about standing in front of Wmart ringing a bell in cold wind. I am also not happy that my second shift has been moved up an hour, meaning instead of the two-hour break from 11-1, I'll now have just 12-1. Wmart is about as far from my house as two different points in Starkville can be from each other, so I'd rather have more time to come home and then go back. (I don't mean it will take an hour in the coming and going. I just mean I'd rather have a bit more leftover time.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:43:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEh1uO022366 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:43:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:42:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:42:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEgjZ28672 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:42:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASEgBsb029190 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:42:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:44:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1378927086.20031128084410@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Att: Bethany In-Reply-To: <3FC75CF6.BB038892@maynor.net> References: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> <22501213.20031128074855@WordWrite.com> <3FC75CF6.BB038892@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> What is a flat 'I'? > I don't do this stuff anymore. But I think it's a slightly lower/looser > [I] -- moving to schwa kind of. I'm trying to figure out how this is different from the canonical Southern 'ah'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:46:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEkYuO022419 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:46:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:46:18 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEkIZ28998 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:46:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128144612.VLZE1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:46:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC75FB5.DA83F3BC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:46:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC7395F.7F8B307C@maynor.net> <3FC75C96.3070601@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Lynne Weber wrote: > >>If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the > >>affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, > >>intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. > I don't think "most" people listen to NPR. There's a > demographic. I'm sure somebody has pinpointed that > demographic, but it includes avid readers I'm pretty sure. And since my name is involved in this, let me once again point out that I have not said that "most" people listen to NPR. I said that most people *I know* do. We are . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:47:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASElwuO022433 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:47:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:47:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:47:42 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASElgZ29327 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:47:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128144737.VMJM1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:47:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:47:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > You should have brought Spencer here. He could have split > the giblets with Vinnie. I made about 7x more food than we Spencer would've flipped out. He's not used to anything other than his dogfood and dog treats. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEmIuO022438 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:48:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEm1Z29366 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:48:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASElvUh009796 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:47:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC75EC4.F0D63C17@maynor.net> References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> <3FC75EC4.F0D63C17@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I forgot to name things like Sound and Spirit when naming things I > sometimes hear on PRM. What is that? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEpZuO022493 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:51:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:51:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:51:19 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEpIZ29581 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:51:18 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASEohpe021639 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:50:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> You should have brought Spencer here. He could have split >>the giblets with Vinnie. I made about 7x more food than we >> > > Spencer would've flipped out. He's not used to anything other than his > dogfood and dog treats. Do you think he'd like real food? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:52:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEqZuO022500 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:52:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5EF7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:52:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEqJZ29673 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:52:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASEpksb006063 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:51:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:53:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <503385336.20031128085341@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Spencer would've flipped out. He's not used to anything other than his > dogfood and dog treats. I know lots of people who only serve their animals the appropriate food. And I know other people who cook for their animals, which I find quite odd. Me, I'm just glad to have a competent plate-cleaner. Someone pointed out to me that Burl's fondness for spices may be why she doesn't have fleas. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEs3uO022511 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:54:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5EF65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:53:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:53:46 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASErkZ29785 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:53:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.36]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128145341.VOBJ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:53:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC76176.6143C44D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:53:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Att: Bethany References: <3FC7439B.5A861EE2@maynor.net> <22501213.20031128074855@WordWrite.com> <3FC75CF6.BB038892@maynor.net> <1378927086.20031128084410@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >> What is a flat 'I'? > > > I don't do this stuff anymore. But I think it's a slightly lower/looser > > [I] -- moving to schwa kind of. > > I'm trying to figure out how this is different from the canonical > Southern 'ah'. I don't know what you mean by the Southern 'ah' -- do you mean [a] for [aI]? (And note that I am using the real IPA symbol [a] -- not the sound that's represented by the small hand-written letter a. Iow, I'm talking about monophthongal [aI], which for most people is not the "ah" sound of "father.") But that doesn't have anything to do with 'flat i,' iiuc. I don't think 'flat i' is about the [aI] or [a] sounds. I think it's about [I] -- the vowel sound in "it." But it's not about vowel-raising before nasals -- not about tin/ten. It's a lowering/loosening in other words. I think. But I am not in this business anymore and thus am not to be regarded as knowing what I'm talking about. And now I have to log off and get ready to go out in the cold wind. Winter sux. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 08:57:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASEvEuO022538 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:57:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5EF89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:56:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:56:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASEuvZ30039 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:56:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hASEuueO013247 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:56:56 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hASEusa2013217; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:56:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031128065702.00ab71a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 06:59:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC75EC4.F0D63C17@maynor.net> References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:42 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Mainly, however, I am unhappy right now that cold wind is blowing >wildly. I am not feeling enthusiastic about standing in front of Wmart >ringing a bell in cold wind. I am also not happy that my second shift >has been moved up an hour, meaning instead of the two-hour break from >11-1, I'll now have just 12-1. Wmart is about as far from my house as >two different points in Starkville can be from each other, so I'd rather >have more time to come home and then go back. (I don't mean it will >take an hour in the coming and going. I just mean I'd rather have a bit >more leftover time.) Good grief! Why don't you just donate a bunch of money instead. I often wondered if the money in the pot went where it was supposed to anyway. I don't like these bell ringers out there trying to make me feel guilty, although I do have my favorite one that I give to. He really enjoys his time ringing the bell. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 09:31:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASFVcuO023118 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:31:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FCAF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:31:22 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hASFVMZ00840 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:31:22 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:15:11 PST Message-ID: <20031128151511.18600.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I forgot to name things like Sound and Spirit when > naming things I > > sometimes hear on PRM. > > What is that? > > Karen Yes, what is that? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 09:35:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASFZuuO023142 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:35:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FCAFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:35:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:35:39 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASFZdZ01079 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:35:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASFZbGn085948 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:35:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:35:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Sound and Spirit In-Reply-To: <20031128151511.18600.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't you guys google? "Sound & Spirit blends classical, traditional and world musics with myth and history, stories and poetry, and commentary from composers, theologians and writers, to provide insight into various aspects of the human experience. Each week the program explores connections between world cultures and examines different approaches to universal questions." >From http://www.wyso.org/wysopgs/sands.html bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 09:39:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASFdmuO023159 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:39:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F025@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:39:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:39:31 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASFd3Z01331 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:39:03 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASFd1Gn086179 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:39:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:39:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Black Friday! In-Reply-To: <1294566123.20031128080312@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does one celebrate by going out to buy, buy, buy? Is it called Black Friday because that is the day that the merchants go into the black? >For those who celebrate. > >Karen bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 09:42:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASFgSuO023185 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:42:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F019@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:42:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:42:11 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hASFg8Z01634 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:42:08 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:24 PST Message-ID: <20031128151324.31961.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:13:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1164895519.20031128084304@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I don't know about your station, but most of the > support for my local > station comes from business contributions. (Over 80% > IIRC.) I suspect > that many of those business owners see NPR as a good > cause, and maybe > good for business, but don't listen to it. Excellent point. I don't believe the per centage is that high here, but it is certainly substantial. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 09:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASFnsuO023270 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:49:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F042@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hASFnbZ02215 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:14:34 PST Message-ID: <20031128151434.11480.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC75FB5.DA83F3BC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And since my name is involved in this, let me once > again point out that > I have not said that "most" people listen to NPR. I > said that most > people *I know* do. We are . Objection noted. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 09:56:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASFuFuO023376 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:56:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FCB32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:55:24 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hASFtOZ03353 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:55:24 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:20:07 PST Message-ID: <20031128152007.13783.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031128065702.00ab71a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Good grief! Why don't you just donate a bunch of > money instead. I often > wondered if the money in the pot went where it was > supposed to anyway. I > don't like these bell ringers out there trying to > make me feel guilty, > although I do have my favorite one that I give to. > He really enjoys his > time ringing the bell. I can't give you chapter and verse on SA collections and the application thereof, but my husband works for the Salvation Army Corps in Anniston, AL. The portion that goes for aid and relief is substantial in comparison with other charities, indeed, in without comparison. It is probably the best regulated such organization. And I'm not saying that because th works for them. He works for them, because of that. > > Bettyenjoys his > time ringing the bell. > > Betty __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 10:01:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASG1iuO023467 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:01:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F072@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:01:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASG1RZ03847 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:01:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hASG1Q2f030458 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:26 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hASG1OJC030407; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:01:24 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031128080221.00a2d200@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:03:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031128152007.13783.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031128065702.00ab71a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:20 AM 11/28/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >I can't give you chapter and verse on SA collections >and the application thereof, but my husband works for >the Salvation Army Corps in Anniston, AL. The portion >that goes for aid and relief is substantial in >comparison with other charities, indeed, in without >comparison. It is probably the best regulated such >organization. And I'm not saying that because th >works for them. He works for them, because of that. That is good to hear. Maybe I'll be more generous. I heard once that the bell collectors themselves kept half of their pot collection. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 10:41:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASGfouO024026 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:41:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FCBD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:41:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:41:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASGVXZ06222 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:31:33 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASGUTdI028536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:30:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:31:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031128152007.13783.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031128152007.13783.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I can't give you chapter and verse on SA collections >and the application thereof, but my husband works for >the Salvation Army Corps in Anniston, AL. The portion >that goes for aid and relief is substantial in >comparison with other charities, indeed, in without I have heard that it is 80%. When I heard that, I wondered why it took 20% to run the thing. But I have never run such an organization, so I would not know. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 10:51:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASGpxuO024171 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:51:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:51:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:51:42 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASGpfT08299 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:51:41 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASGpcOb8159452 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:51:38 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:51:38 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > I can't find it online, but there was a kid's movie named Miles and Otis. Ah. Perhaps the newspaper had it wrong, and it's really Milo & Otis. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 11:06:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASH6BuO024325 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:06:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F125@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:05:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:05:54 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASH5sT09514 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:05:54 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112817054701500poed3e>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:05:47 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128090610.04627478@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:08:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Richard writes, >Ah. Perhaps the newspaper had it wrong, and it's really Milo & Otis. But "Miles" is the one that makes sense! And anyway, the institute announces it as "Miles": http://www.auduboninstitute.org/rcenter/res_cloning_112503.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 11:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASHhxuO024827 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:43:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F1AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:43:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:43:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASHhfT12364 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:43:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASHhbUh021751 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:43:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:44:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <718530141.20031128114454@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound and Spirit In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> References: <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Don't you guys google? No, I don't know how! Please teach me, Bonnie, I am desperate to learn!!!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 11:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASHseuO025060 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:54:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F194@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:44:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:44:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASHiLT12443 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:44:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASHiIUh022089 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:44:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:45:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1818617208.20031128114541@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Black Friday! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Does one celebrate by going out to buy, buy, buy? Is it called Black > Friday because that is the day that the merchants go into the black? Yes, and yes--but today is also national Buy Nothing Day. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 11:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASHseuO025062 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:54:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F19B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:47:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:47:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASHlRT12740 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:47:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASHlIUh023866 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:47:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:48:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <435650425.20031128114841@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sound and Spirit In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 11:44 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Don't you guys google? >> >>No, I don't know how! Please teach me, Bonnie, I am desperate to >>learn!!!! > If you will re-read her question, you will note that it had nothing to do > with your knowing ... True. But you can't do without knowing how. Can you? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 11:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASHseuO025061 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:54:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F195@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:45:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:45:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASHjFT12548 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:45:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASHjCAt059215; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:45:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:45:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Sound and Spirit In-Reply-To: <718530141.20031128114454@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:44 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > Don't you guys google? > >No, I don't know how! Please teach me, Bonnie, I am desperate to >learn!!!! If you will re-read her question, you will note that it had nothing to do with your knowing ... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 11:59:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASHxwuO025145 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:59:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F1C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:59:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:59:40 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASHxeT13737 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:59:40 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASHxbGp000717; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:59:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128125852.00b51b28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:59:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Sound and Spirit In-Reply-To: <435650425.20031128114841@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:48 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >True. But you can't do without knowing how. Can you? You can know how and simply be too lazy or apathetic... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 12:13:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASIDWuO025313 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:13:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F1F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASIDET14616 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:13:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASIDAiM011711 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:13:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:14:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <78881673.20031128121432@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sound and Spirit In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128125852.00b51b28@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128124417.00b4e660@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128125852.00b51b28@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 11:48 AM 11/28/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>True. But you can't do without knowing how. Can you? > You can know how and simply be too lazy or apathetic... Or simply be having a conversation... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:08:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASL83uO028448 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:08:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FCED4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:07:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASL7hT28138 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:07:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASL7dAr019500 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:07:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128160636.00bbad88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:07:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Black Friday! In-Reply-To: <1818617208.20031128114541@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Does one celebrate by going out to buy, buy, buy? Is it called Black > > Friday because that is the day that the merchants go into the black? > >Yes, and yes--but today is also national Buy Nothing Day. >Karen Oops. I went and bought and bought and bought. Maybe I'll get points for the fact that I didn't charge anything. And I dropped all my change in the Salvation Army bucket in front of WalMart in honor of Natalie. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:12:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLCkuO028533 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:12:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F402@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:12:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:12:27 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLCRT28537 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:12:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128211221.WRYZ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:12:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7BA36.37F3CEEC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:12:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> <3FC75EC4.F0D63C17@maynor.net> <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I forgot to name things like Sound and Spirit when naming things I > > sometimes hear on PRM. > > What is that? I don't know exactly. I never turn on the radio to listen to something in particular -- I listen to whatever happens to be on when I'm in my car. And I've noticed at times that something interesting I've been listening to identifies itself as "Sound and Spirit" -- chants, rituals, folk tales from places, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLHruO028618 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:17:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:17:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:17:34 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLHXT29207 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:17:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128211728.WTCN1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:17:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7BB69.89E2DCD1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:17:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Spencer would've flipped out. He's not used to anything other than his > > dogfood and dog treats. > > Do you think he'd like real food? He likes everything. He's had people food at times, especially when we visited my mother in Huntsville. I don't have any rule against giving him scraps -- it's just that I almost never have any. And he was getting a bit hefty for a while, which made me start being careful of amounts of dogfood and limited dog biscuits to one tiny one in the morning and one medium-sized one at night. What he really wants right now is to go for a walk. He's giving me that look. But I can't stand the thought of going back into that cold wind after being almost comatose upon returning from my second stint of bell-ringing. The wind kept blowing the kettle and holder over. My hands and feet were numb, and I could barely talk to the person who came for the next shift since my speech was slurred. As I think I've said before, winter sux. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:23:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLNOuO028694 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:23:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F42E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:23:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:23:05 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLN4T29867 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:23:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128212259.WUJC1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:22:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7BCB4.7815006@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:23:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1623961644.20031128075910@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128065702.00ab71a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Good grief! Why don't you just donate a bunch of money instead. I often Because it would be bad for no bell-ringer to be there. They had a horn-player in Tokyo. > wondered if the money in the pot went where it was supposed to anyway. I Not being an SA , I don't know how the accounting works, but it is my belief that it does go where it is supposed to. I think the SA is a good organization. > don't like these bell ringers out there trying to make me feel guilty, > although I do have my favorite one that I give to. He really enjoys his > time ringing the bell. I didn't make anybody feel guilty. I didn't speak until spoken to and didn't stare at people in anticipation of their giving. After all, the kettle sits there every day for about a month, meaning that people probably pass that one kettle alone over and over and over again. I don't give every time I pass it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:38:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLcJuO028884 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:38:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F456@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:38:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:38:00 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLc0T31425 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:38:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128213755.BVPG1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:37:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7C034.5834B970@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:37:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031128151324.31961.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Excellent point. I don't believe the per centage is > that high here, but it is certainly substantial. Brr. My brrr-ing has nothing to do with what you wrote. It's just that I let Spencer hoodwink me into taking him for a walk in the wind -- a VERY, VERY short one, though. Anyway, I'm thawing again. Re PBS, I don't know about public radio in Alabama since my driving routine in Hville was to listen to an oldies station. But public television in Alabama seems to be a nightmare of fund-raising -- people are standing there begging for money every time you turn it on. I public television of Alabama immensely. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:39:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLdbuO028899 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:39:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F45C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:39:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLdHT31539 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FCF35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200311282139.hASLdHT31539@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:39:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:35:51 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > You should have brought Spencer here. Speaking of Spencer, MP Spencer of Canada has been creating quite a stir, I gather! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:41:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLfSuO028909 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:41:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F466@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:41:08 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLf8T31903 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:41:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128214103.BWIG1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:41:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7C0F0.116503EE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:41:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sound and Spirit References: <1532970917.20031128084925@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103439.00bac938@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > "Sound & Spirit blends classical, traditional and world musics with myth > and history, stories and poetry, and commentary from composers, theologians > and writers, to provide insight into various aspects of the human > experience. Each week the program explores connections between world > cultures and examines different approaches to universal questions." > > >From http://www.wyso.org/wysopgs/sands.html Very good, Bonniemae. I didn't really know what it was exactly -- just that its name is associated in my mind with I've heard on PRM. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:44:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLipuO028962 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:44:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F44E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:44:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:44:32 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLiWT32145 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:44:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128214426.BXBX1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:44:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7C1BB.A94A98B3@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:44:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Black Friday! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > Does one celebrate by going out to buy, buy, buy? Is it called Black > Friday because that is the day that the merchants go into the black? Wmart must have had a major sale going today on Apex 27" tv sets. During my first shift, I saw at least ten of them coming out. And I was at the grocery entrance. The other entrance probably had even more tv-traffic. On my later shift I don't think I saw any. They must've sold out. Or maybe it was a moring-only sale. On the second shift I saw lots of 20" flat-screened somethings -- brand name something like Symphony. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:47:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLlBuO029038 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:47:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:52 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLkqT32375 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FCF79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200311282146.hASLkqT32375@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 07:20:07 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty wrote: >> Good grief! Why don't you just donate a bunch of >> money instead. I often >> wondered if the money in the pot went where it was >> supposed to anyway. I >> don't like these bell ringers out there trying to >> make me feel guilty, >> although I do have my favorite one that I give to. >> He really enjoys his >> time ringing the bell. > >I can't give you chapter and verse on SA collections >and the application thereof, but my husband works for >the Salvation Army Corps in Anniston, AL. The portion >that goes for aid and relief is substantial in >comparison with other charities, indeed, in without >comparison. It is probably the best regulated such >organization. And I'm not saying that because th >works for them. He works for them, because of that. One way to compare charities' administrative cut is to check out their financials via the ICA - if they're involved in Federal Campaigns. You can search by categories or by keywords, then check out the financial statements. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:49:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLnAuO029066 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:49:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F474@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:48:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:48:50 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLmoT32647 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:48:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128214845.BXZI1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7C2BE.B48C726F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:48:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031128152007.13783.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >I can't give you chapter and verse on SA collections > >and the application thereof, but my husband works for > >the Salvation Army Corps in Anniston, AL. The portion > >that goes for aid and relief is substantial in > >comparison with other charities, indeed, in without > > I have heard that it is 80%. When I heard that, I wondered why it took 20% > to run the thing. But I have never run such an organization, so I would > not know. What's that publication that evaluates charities? We've discussed it here before -- it's what made me quit giving to the Humane Society of the US. Actually, I had already figured out that the HSUS was spending way, way too much on gifts to donors or potential donors. I haven't given anything to them in ages now but am still getting mugs and t-shirts and stuff from them in the mail regularly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 15:52:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASLqLuO029088 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:52:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:52:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:52:01 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASLq1T00474 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:52:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128215156.BYRL1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:51:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7C37D.F2FB9628@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:51:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Black Friday! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128160636.00bbad88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > the fact that I didn't charge anything. And I dropped all my change in the > Salvation Army bucket in front of WalMart in honor of Natalie. Very good! I bet you were at the Wmart where I bought a phone card last summer. I think I bought something else that day but can't remember what now. This was after exiting BH to find the road to Canada. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:13:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMDtuO029338 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:13:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F53A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:13:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:13:36 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMDaT02508 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:13:36 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASMDZm6016122 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:13:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC7C83F.8060808@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:12:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <3FC7BB69.89E2DCD1@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > What he really wants right now is to go for a walk. He's giving me that > look. But I can't stand the thought of going back into that cold wind > after being almost comatose upon returning from my second stint of > bell-ringing. The wind kept blowing the kettle and holder over. My > hands and feet were numb, and I could barely talk to the person who came > for the next shift since my speech was slurred. As I think I've said > before, winter sux. It's wicked cold here, too. We've had snowflakes blowing around all day. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:19:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMJhuO029422 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:19:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F535@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:19:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:19:24 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMJNT03074 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:19:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASMJLAr038107 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:19:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:19:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7BB69.89E2DCD1@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The wind kept blowing the kettle and holder over. My >hands and feet were numb, and I could barely talk to the person who came >for the next shift since my speech was slurred. As I think I've said >before, winter sux. -- Natalie Did you wear warm clothing and an extra pair of socks? bonniev, there is no such thing as bad weather, only poor clothing From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:23:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMN7uO029458 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:23:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD01B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:46 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMMkT03368 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:46 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASMMiGn055832 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128172219.00bc7298@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Black Friday! In-Reply-To: <3FC7C37D.F2FB9628@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128103829.00bb3698@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128160636.00bbad88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I bet you were at the Wmart where I bought a phone card last >summer. I think I bought something else that day but can't remember >what now. This was after exiting BH to find the road to Canada. > -- Natalie Probably. There is only one in a 50 mile radius of Bar Harbor. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:34:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMYOuO029612 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:34:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F57D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:34:05 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMY5T04158 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:34:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128223359.KKRO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:33:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7CD59.B2BBB658@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:34:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <3FC7BB69.89E2DCD1@maynor.net> <3FC7C83F.8060808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > It's wicked cold here, too. We've had snowflakes blowing > around all day. The wind is the problem here. Without it, things wouldn't be so bad. It's still raging. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:35:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMZmuO029669 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:35:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F563@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:35:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMPTT03506 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:25:29 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASMOKdI024375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:24:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:25:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: espresso pods Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have been reading about espresso pods for a few mnoths - they are little wrapped espresso packets, ready to go. I found some this week and bought them today. As soon as I got home, I brewed up a cap - or tried to. The damned pods make light brown water. Has anyone else used them? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:36:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMaNuO029679 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:36:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:36:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:36:04 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMa3T04300 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:36:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128223558.KLCX1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:35:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7CDCF.708E9CDE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:35:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Did you wear warm clothing and an extra pair of socks? Jeans, a long-sleeved t-shirt with a turtleneck shirt under it, socks, and Birkenstock Arizonas. I should've worn my bonniesox. The ones I wore (and am still wearing) weren't very warm. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:37:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMbLuO029687 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:37:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F57B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:37:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:37:01 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMb1T04387 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:37:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128223656.KLHD1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7CE09.5E8C84F3@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:36:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: And a light-weight jacket -- sort of a short raincoatish jacket. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:42:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMgBuO029712 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:42:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F589@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMVpT03968 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:31:51 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASMUmdI025470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:30:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:31:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: (M), (F)? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I received a note today that concluded thus (all numbers changed to protect the guilty): (M) (888) 123-4567 (F) (888) 789-4567 I had no idea what (M) and (F) stood for. I asked and was told Mobile and FAX. Has anyone else run into that? It seems crazy to me. FAX is always FAX (or fax or Fax) - and I never call a telephone a mobile phone. I call it a cell phone. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 16:46:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASMkcuO029765 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F596@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASMkIT05206 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:46:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hASMkFiM023777 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:46:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:47:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <863506401.20031128164738@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Has anyone else run into that? It seems crazy to me. FAX is always FAX > (or fax or Fax) - and I never call a telephone a mobile phone. I call it a > cell phone. 'mobile' sounds very European to me--but it's what *my* cell phone calls other people's cell phone numbers, mobile numbers. So I am not fazed. I think I could figure out F instead of fax. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNNIuO030275 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:23:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F612@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:22:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:22:49 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNMnT08171 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:22:49 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASNMkOb4726996 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:22:46 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128090610.04627478@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128090610.04627478@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > But "Miles" is the one that makes sense! Agreed. > And anyway, the institute announces it as "Miles": Yeah, last time I checked, they hadn't updated the page. But we're still not sure who Otis is... Speaking of names, I spent me die orf at the racetrack today, and the third race offered me a quinella of Ethan's Legend and Ante Up Pete. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:24:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNOuuO030304 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:24:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD103@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:24:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:24:36 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNOZT08278 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:24:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128232430.LXLG1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7D92F.300FC407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:24:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I had no idea what (M) and (F) stood for. I asked and was told Mobile and > FAX. > > Has anyone else run into that? It seems crazy to me. FAX is always FAX > (or fax or Fax) - and I never call a telephone a mobile phone. I call it a > cell phone. I've heard cell phones called mobile phones, but I don't know that I would have figured out what M and F meant. In fact, until I read on and got to where you told us, I was thinking of things like Monday or Friday calling only, with different phone numbers for those different days, or males call one number and females another. Mobile and Fax had not entered my mind. Meanwhile, though, since you are still , did what I hurriedly wrote in reply to Karen before rushing out into the raging winds this morning make sense -- about "flat i"? It's not a term I ever with -- i.e., it's not something I was intimate with even when I was . (And I was never majorly into phonology.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:33:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNXDuO030402 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:33:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD10C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:32:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:32:53 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNWrT08666 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:32:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASNWpGn068221 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:32:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183242.00bcfe38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:33:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: espresso pods In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you use an espresso machine? >I have been reading about espresso pods for a few mnoths - they are little >wrapped espresso packets, ready to go. I found some this week and bought >them today. As soon as I got home, I brewed up a cap - or tried to. The >damned pods make light brown water. > >Has anyone else used them? > >Bethany bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:35:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNZuuO030415 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:35:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F60B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:35:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:35:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNZaT08824 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:35:36 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASNZYAr054054 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:35:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:35:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7CDCF.708E9CDE@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Jeans, a long-sleeved t-shirt with a turtleneck shirt under it, socks, >and Birkenstock Arizonas. I should've worn my bonniesox. The ones I >wore (and am still wearing) weren't very warm. > -- Natalie Well, no wonder you were cold. You didn't wear any kind of wind breaker. You should have worn your leather jacket, wool socks, and real shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear pantyhose under them. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:47:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNlUuO030580 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:47:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F620@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:47:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:47:10 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNl9T09727 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:47:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128234704.BOKR1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:47:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:47:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Jeans, a long-sleeved t-shirt with a turtleneck shirt under it, socks, > >and Birkenstock Arizonas. I should've worn my bonniesox. The ones I > >wore (and am still wearing) weren't very warm. > > -- Natalie > > Well, no wonder you were cold. You didn't wear any kind of wind > breaker. You haven't seen my PS yet -- adding that I did dig out a jacket to wear. > You should have worn your leather jacket, wool socks, and real > shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear > pantyhose under them. Egads! I would have felt like a stuffed animal. What would be warmer than jeans? And super egads at the idea of pantyhouse. How horribly unpleasant. One reason I wear skirts less often in winter than in summer is the hose thing. Re shoes, I was just prompted to order some more clogs -- did it about an hour ago. I need some brown ones since my only brown ones (actually taupe) are the ones that live out in my storage building and are covered with sevin dust and whatever -- are generally quite nasty. So I just ordered some dark brown ones from birkenstockcentral.com since I had a 10% discount coupon. I didn't order from that nice German place this time because I wanted them to get here pretty soon. I will, however, order from the nice German place again. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:49:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNnvuO030612 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:49:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD135@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:49:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:49:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNdbT09083 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:39:37 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASNcYdI005792 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:38:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:39:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: espresso pods In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183242.00bcfe38@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183242.00bcfe38@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Did you use an espresso machine? Of course! LOL! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNohuO030618 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:50:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F62B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:50:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:50:22 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNoMT10017 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:50:22 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hASNoKAr057392 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:50:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128184843.03367b58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:50:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What would be warmer than jeans? Well, I have fleece-lined jeans. But I don't suppose you would buy those for the few days a winter when the cold winds whip around your legs. > And super egads at the idea of pantyhouse. How horribly >unpleasant. One reason I wear skirts less often in winter than in >summer is the hose thing. -- Natalie I don't wear panty hose either. But I do have some black wool tights that would have come in handy under your jeans today. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:51:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNpXuO030622 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:51:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F649@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:51:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:51:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNfDT09219 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:41:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASNeAdI006129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:40:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear >pantyhose under them. Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:52:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNqUuO030634 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:52:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F64E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:52:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:52:10 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNgAT09319 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:42:10 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASNf7dI006437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:41:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: <3FC7D92F.300FC407@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC7D92F.300FC407@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Meanwhile, though, since you are still , did what I >hurriedly wrote in reply to Karen before rushing out into the raging >winds this morning make sense -- about "flat i"? It's not a term I ever > with -- i.e., it's not something I was intimate with even >when I was . (And I was never majorly into phonology.) Sorry - I skipped past that discussion ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:54:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNsHuO030668 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:54:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F63B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:53:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:53:57 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNrvT10365 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:53:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031128235352.BQBO1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:53:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:53:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Darnit. I just went to birkenstockcentral to show y'all my newly ordered shoes, and I discovered that I could have gotten "burnished leather" for the same price -- and I like the way it looks. But I didn't notice that with my frozen brain. So these ordinary leather ones are the ones I ordered: http://tinyurl.com/wxrl I think I've mentioned before, btw, that Internet Explorer won't let you go straight to the picture. You can save the picture on your computer, but you can't open it as a web image by itself. Thank goodness for Netscape 4.7. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 17:59:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hASNxsuO030694 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:59:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F661@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:59:34 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hASNxXT10934 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hASNxVCB028448 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:59:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC7E113.4050102@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:58:11 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: > >>>Jeans, a long-sleeved t-shirt with a turtleneck shirt under it, socks, >>>and Birkenstock Arizonas. I should've worn my bonniesox. The ones I >>>wore (and am still wearing) weren't very warm. >>> -- Natalie >>> >>Well, no wonder you were cold. You didn't wear any kind of wind >>breaker. >> > > You haven't seen my PS yet -- adding that I did dig out a jacket to > wear. > > >> You should have worn your leather jacket, wool socks, and real >>shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear >>pantyhose under them. >> > > Egads! I would have felt like a stuffed animal. What would be warmer > than jeans? And super egads at the idea of pantyhouse. How horribly > unpleasant. One reason I wear skirts less often in winter than in > summer is the hose thing. Re shoes, I was just prompted to order some > more clogs -- did it about an hour ago. I need some brown ones since my > only brown ones (actually taupe) are the ones that live out in my > storage building and are covered with sevin dust and whatever -- are > generally quite nasty. So I just ordered some dark brown ones from > birkenstockcentral.com since I had a 10% discount coupon. I didn't > order from that nice German place this time because I wanted them to get > here pretty soon. I will, however, order from the nice German place > again. They have some tempting shoes. I like my mocha Bostons the best of all my Birks. We have our very own Birk store now -- I get a discount for buying so many pair there ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT00WuO030737 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:00:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F66A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT00CT11002 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129000007.BRNR1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7E188.A5CC70F3@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:00:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128184843.03367b58@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I don't wear panty hose either. But I do have some black wool tights that > would have come in handy under your jeans today. I have some flannel pajama bottoms that I have used as long-johns before during cold-weather bicycling (many years ago). But I really didn't realize how cold that wind was going to be. When I first got there this morning, it didn't seem all that bad, but then the sun moved, as is its wont, the shade was upon me, and the wind kicked up. It got worse on my second shift. But it wasn't really my legs that felt cold. The parts of my body that were going numb were hands, feet, and face. (I noticed that the person who came to replace me at the end of my second shift had gloves.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT00XuO030738 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:00:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F650@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT00CT11003 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT00AAr059800 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear > >pantyhose under them. > >Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, >which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? >Bethany God, bunch of warm weather, no nothing idiots. I'm leaving the room. But first I'll say this: I didn't mention warmth above. I was talking about wind. Wind cuts right through denim. Either you layer or you wear something that's wind proof. Jeez. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT058uO030789 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:05:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:04:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:04:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT04lT11334 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:04:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT04keO020768 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:04:46 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT04ia2020733 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:04:45 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031128160545.00a44d80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:07:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:53 PM 11/28/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Darnit. I just went to birkenstockcentral to show y'all my newly >ordered shoes, and I discovered that I could have gotten "burnished >leather" for the same price -- and I like the way it looks. But I >didn't notice that with my frozen brain. So these ordinary leather ones >are the ones I ordered: > >http://tinyurl.com/wxrl > >I think I've mentioned before, btw, that Internet Explorer won't let you >go straight to the picture. You can save the picture on your computer, >but you can't open it as a web image by itself. Thank goodness for >Netscape 4.7. Have you ever looked at Ecco Shoes? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:11:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0BhuO030857 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:11:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F67E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:11:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:11:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0BNT11705 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:11:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT0BLW1011954 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:11:21 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT0BGWq011865; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:11:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:13:34 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Lesbian shoes In-Reply-To: <3FC7E113.4050102@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:58 PM 11/28/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>bonniev wrote: >> >>>>Jeans, a long-sleeved t-shirt with a turtleneck shirt under it, socks, >>>>and Birkenstock Arizonas. I should've worn my bonniesox. The ones I >>>>wore (and am still wearing) weren't very warm. >>>>-- Natalie >>>Well, no wonder you were cold. You didn't wear any kind of wind >>>breaker. >> >>You haven't seen my PS yet -- adding that I did dig out a jacket to >>wear. >> >> >>>You should have worn your leather jacket, wool socks, and real >>>shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear >>>pantyhose under them. >> >>Egads! I would have felt like a stuffed animal. What would be warmer >>than jeans? And super egads at the idea of pantyhouse. How horribly >>unpleasant. One reason I wear skirts less often in winter than in >>summer is the hose thing. Re shoes, I was just prompted to order some >>more clogs -- did it about an hour ago. I need some brown ones since my >>only brown ones (actually taupe) are the ones that live out in my >>storage building and are covered with sevin dust and whatever -- are >>generally quite nasty. So I just ordered some dark brown ones from >>birkenstockcentral.com since I had a 10% discount coupon. I didn't >>order from that nice German place this time because I wanted them to get >>here pretty soon. I will, however, order from the nice German place >>again. > > > They have some tempting shoes. I like my mocha Bostons the >best of all my Birks. We have our very own Birk store now >-- I get a discount for buying so many pair there ;). Lesbian shoes. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:16:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0GYuO030920 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:16:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F66D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:16:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:16:14 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0GET11963 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:16:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129001608.DDPS1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:16:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7E54A.21D20727@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:16:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > God, bunch of warm weather, no nothing idiots. I'm leaving the room. Please come back into the room soon. We need your insights. For example: > Wind cuts right through denim. Nobody had ever told me this before. (But my legs really weren't all that unhappy today.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:18:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0IGuO030941 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:18:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F671@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:56 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0HuT12118 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129001750.DDZO1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7E5B0.F6619DF8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:17:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128160545.00a44d80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Have you ever looked at Ecco Shoes? Yes. In Japan. There was a store across the street from where I lived that had lots of Eccos. But the ones I tried on didn't feel comfortable. Feet are odd. Some brands that are super comfortable to some people aren't to others. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:20:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0KcuO030952 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:20:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F677@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:20:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:20:18 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0AIT11650 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:10:18 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT09EdI011356 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:09:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:10:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >first I'll say this: I didn't mention warmth above. I was talking about >wind. Wind cuts right through denim. Either you layer or you wear >something that's wind proof. Jeez. So exaxtly WHAT does one wear instead of jeans??? This is a request for information. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:21:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0LnuO030957 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:21:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD175@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:21:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:21:22 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0LMT12389 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:21:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT0LKGR014515 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:21:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC7E62F.1020505@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:19:59 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 05:58 PM 11/28/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>> bonniev wrote: >>> >>>>> Jeans, a long-sleeved t-shirt with a turtleneck shirt under it, socks, >>>>> and Birkenstock Arizonas. I should've worn my bonniesox. The ones I >>>>> wore (and am still wearing) weren't very warm. >>>>> -- Natalie >>>> >>>> Well, no wonder you were cold. You didn't wear any kind of wind >>>> breaker. >>> >>> >>> You haven't seen my PS yet -- adding that I did dig out a jacket to >>> wear. >>> >>> >>>> You should have worn your leather jacket, wool socks, and real >>>> shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear >>>> pantyhose under them. >>> >>> >>> Egads! I would have felt like a stuffed animal. What would be warmer >>> than jeans? And super egads at the idea of pantyhouse. How horribly >>> unpleasant. One reason I wear skirts less often in winter than in >>> summer is the hose thing. Re shoes, I was just prompted to order some >>> more clogs -- did it about an hour ago. I need some brown ones since my >>> only brown ones (actually taupe) are the ones that live out in my >>> storage building and are covered with sevin dust and whatever -- are >>> generally quite nasty. So I just ordered some dark brown ones from >>> birkenstockcentral.com since I had a 10% discount coupon. I didn't >>> order from that nice German place this time because I wanted them to get >>> here pretty soon. I will, however, order from the nice German place >>> again. >> >> >> >> They have some tempting shoes. I like my mocha Bostons the >> best of all my Birks. We have our very own Birk store now >> -- I get a discount for buying so many pair there ;). > > > Lesbian shoes. Yes. My students often comment on my choice in footwear. I'm astonished at what they will notice. I wore a pair of non-Birks once this year, and somebody in every one of my classes commented. My feet were killing me by the end of the day. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:23:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0NMuO030965 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:23:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD173@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:23:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:23:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0D2T11812 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:13:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT0C0dI011791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:12:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > >first I'll say this: I didn't mention warmth above. I was talking about >wind. Wind cuts right through denim. Either you layer or you wear >something that's wind proof. Jeez. I may answer my own question. I would probably wear jeans and a full-length outback coat. But bonnie's rsponses sounded to me like she thinks there is something one wears INSTEAD of jeans. (To me warmth definitely has something to do with wind.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0OMuO030977 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F67D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:02 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0O2T12532 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129002357.DFDP1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:23:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7E71E.E3F2DC67@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:23:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Lesbian shoes. Didn't we talk about "comfortable shoes" here in '91 or so? I'm almost sure somebody mentioned it here because that's when I first caught on that something somebody had said (in my ftf life) back in the late '80s about a new dean was probably intended as . I was in France and had met a friend from here on a train somewhere in Switzerland (that was a funny story). Anyway, while we were together, she had a phone conversation with her husband, who was in Italy at the time, and he said that all he had heard about this new dean was that "she wears comfortable shoes." When she got off the phone, she said to me, "What a very weird observation." I agreed. Then several years later, somebody here on Words-L said that that was a . But we're back to syllogisms. I love wearing comfortable shoes. Iow, everybody who loves comfortable shoes isn't a lesbian. (But do all lesbians love wearing comfortable shoes?) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0OmuO030982 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F690@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:27 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0ORT12563 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT0OQGR015764 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:24:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC7E6EA.3070104@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:23:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > > >>shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear >>pantyhose under them. >> > > Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, > which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? I ride in jeans during the winter. When I was a kid, we'd wear either flannel lined jeans or we'd wear two pairs at the same time. They have some interesting fabrics now that probably would layer well with jeans to cut the wind factor -- but since I'll be riding mostly in an indoor arena, I'm not that worried about it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:25:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0P8uO030990 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:25:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0ElT11879 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:14:47 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT0DjdI012031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:13:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:14:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: >> They have some tempting shoes. I like my mocha Bostons the >>best of all my Birks. We have our very own Birk store now >>-- I get a discount for buying so many pair there ;). > >Lesbian shoes. How many do you own? Bethany (Now it is time for some of the leftovers I brough home from two dinners out yesterday.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:53:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0r7uO031356 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:53:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:52:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:52:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0qkT14516 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:52:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT0qhiM001293 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:52:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:54:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <224566794.20031128185406@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, > which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? lined wool pants Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0uAuO031397 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:56:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0tnT14773 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT0tlAr072971 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:55:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:55:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7E6EA.3070104@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I ride in jeans during the winter. When I was a kid, we'd >wear either flannel lined jeans or we'd wear two pairs at >the same time. They have some interesting fabrics now that >probably would layer well with jeans to cut the wind factor >Rita Rouvalis Chapman No leather chaps for you and yours? Seems like they would be good for riding. Did you not have snow pants when you were a child in New England? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:57:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0vJuO031408 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:57:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:56:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:56:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0uwT14944 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:56:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT0uvGn088748 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:56:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195642.033748f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes In-Reply-To: <3FC7E71E.E3F2DC67@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > (But do all lesbians love wearing comfortable shoes?) > -- Natalie Possibly not lipstick lesbians. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0vSuO031411 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:57:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:07 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT0v7T14997 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:07 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:11:52 PST Message-ID: <20031129001152.2656.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:11:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC7C034.5834B970@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Excellent point. I don't believe the per centage > is > > that high here, but it is certainly substantial. > Re PBS, I don't know about public radio in Alabama > since my driving > routine in Hville was to listen to an oldies > station. But public > television in Alabama seems to be a nightmare of > fund-raising -- people > are standing there begging for money every time you > turn it on. I > public television of Alabama immensely. Another excellent point. You have to be willing to sit through all the local affiliate stuff in order to get to the basically good national programming. I haven't a clue as to how they choose the personnel they do for fund raising at WBHM, but they are truly awful. I have often wondered if other regions are so bad. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:57:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0vbuO031414 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:57:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0vGT15011 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:57:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT0vDiM003884 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:57:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:58:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think I've mentioned before, btw, that Internet Explorer won't let you > go straight to the picture. You can save the picture on your computer, > but you can't open it as a web image by itself. Thank goodness for > Netscape 4.7. It's a poor workman who blames his tools... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 18:59:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT0xcuO031441 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:59:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0xHT15144 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT0xGAr073957 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:27 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Good for Dubya Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for him to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT11HuO031494 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:01:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:00:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:00:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT10uT15267 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:00:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT10sUh012128 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:02:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > So exaxtly WHAT does one wear instead of jeans??? This is a request for > information. you wear chaps over your jeans Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:03:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT13cuO031519 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:03:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:03:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:03:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT13IT15437 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:03:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT12jsb017969 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:02:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:04:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9610335008.20031128190440@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for him > to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. self-interest--low morale, griping back home Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:04:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT14OuO031527 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:04:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD1CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:04:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:04:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT0s3T14588 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:54:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT0qwdI018396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:53:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:54:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <224566794.20031128185406@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <224566794.20031128185406@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, >> which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? > >lined wool pants Which I would not wear to the barn. (Fortunately, there is thermal underwear.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:05:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT15vuO031535 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:05:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:05:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:05:36 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT15aT15597 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:05:36 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT14lGp091443; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:05:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195710.00b664b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <224566794.20031128185406@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:54 PM 11/28/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, > > which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? > >lined wool pants Or fleece-lined jeans. I have a couple of pair of these, which are great for the early-evening snow-shoveling exercises, as well as the walks in very low wind-chill conditions. Not, however, the sort of thing you want to wear in front of a roaring fire. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:09:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT19ruO031605 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:09:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:09:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:09:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT19WT15802 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:09:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT18xsb021896 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:09:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:10:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1746307090.20031128191055@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <224566794.20031128185406@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, >>> which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? >> >>lined wool pants > Which I would not wear to the barn. > (Fortunately, there is thermal underwear.) which also breaks wind Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:11:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1B4uO031619 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:11:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:10:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:10:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT10iT15256 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:00:44 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT0xfdI019507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:59:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:00:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for him >to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. So do I. Well done. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1C5uO031633 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:12:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:11:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:11:45 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1BiT15979 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:11:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129011139.LRHU1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:11:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F24D.C21ADAAE@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:11:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? References: <3FC7D92F.300FC407@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Meanwhile, though, since you are still , did what I > >hurriedly wrote in reply to Karen before rushing out into the raging > >winds this morning make sense -- about "flat i"? It's not a term I ever > > with -- i.e., it's not something I was intimate with even > >when I was . (And I was never majorly into phonology.) > > Sorry - I skipped past that discussion ... That seems odd in a short thread with the subject header being "att: Bethany." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1DTuO031643 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:13:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:09 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1D8T16087 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:08 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112901130001100ns0u6e>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:13:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171300.045ac438@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:15:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: A story about a parrot In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128090610.04627478@mail.istori.com> <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031126100842.044f9310@mail.istori.com> <791530062.1069875249@TWild.uri.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128090610.04627478@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Richard writes, >and the third race offered me a quinella of Ethan's Legend and Ante Up Pete. :) Part of our Thanksgiving hike was on Crazy Pete's Road. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1DbuO031647 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:13:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:17 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1DGT16104 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129011311.LRPC1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F2A9.9B5B9B46@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:13:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031129001152.2656.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > haven't a clue as to how they choose the personnel > they do for fund raising at WBHM, but they are truly > awful. I have often wondered if other regions are so > bad. Huntsville is -- or was the last time I looked at public television there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1EJuO031653 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:14:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F6F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:59 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1DwT16158 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:13:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT1DNpe028917 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:13:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC7F283.4070004@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:12:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I ride in jeans during the winter. When I was a kid, we'd >> wear either flannel lined jeans or we'd wear two pairs at >> the same time. They have some interesting fabrics now that >> probably would layer well with jeans to cut the wind factor >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > No leather chaps for you and yours? Seems like they would be good for > riding. Did you not have snow pants when you were a child in New England? Chaps are great for riding. On the wish-list. This shit is expensive, and I'm buying for two this time around. Ana is getting a nice children's grooming kit for Christmas. She still can't reach most of the pony to brush him, but at least she'll have equipment that fits her little hands. Snow pants aren't good for riding -- you can't feel the horse under you. Contrary to appearance, most steering is done through the seat and legs, not the reins. But I most certainly did have snow pants as a kid, you betcha. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:14:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1ELuO031656 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:14:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:14:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:14:01 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT141T15487 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:04:01 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT12xdI020079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:02:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> So exaxtly WHAT does one wear instead of jeans??? This is a request for >> information. > >you wear chaps over your jeans I don't wear chaps. If I did, I would not wear them over blue jeans or for riding. I wear britches for riding - with tall boots or half-chaps. And I do not ride in an inside arena. I occasionally ride in a ring - but it is open to the elements. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:16:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1G8uO031689 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:16:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD1E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:15:42 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1FfT16316 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:15:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129011536.LSBR1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:15:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F339.73212349@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:15:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC7E62F.1020505@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Yes. My students often comment on my choice in footwear. I remember getting *very* strange looks from students in Meridian when I wore my first Birks in 1980. I don't remember strange looks on our main campus, even though I do think that Birks were quite rare here then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:17:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1HYuO031705 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:14 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1HDT16418 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT1Gcpe029906 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:16:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:15:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > >>>So exaxtly WHAT does one wear instead of jeans??? This is a request for >>>information. >>> >>you wear chaps over your jeans >> > > I don't wear chaps. If I did, I would not wear them over blue jeans or > for riding. I wear britches for riding - with tall boots or half-chaps. What are britches? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:17:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1HnuO031709 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD1B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:29 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1HST16438 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129011723.LSNQ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F3A4.D8F66837@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Did you not have snow pants when you were a child in New England? What are snow pants (as in what are they made out of)? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:18:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1IiuO031729 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F6FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:23 -0500 Received: from vmmr5.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1INT16522 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:23 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr5.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id QIX09682; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVQ15694; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:09:35 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Good for Dubya Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FC7652F.28962.1287BF5@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Nov 2003 at 19:59, bonniev wrote: > I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for > him to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. I'll give him his due too--but it has nothing to do with niceness. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:19:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1J8uO031739 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:19:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F6FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:47 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1IlT16545 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129011842.LSUM1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F3F3.1E57E31A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:18:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195642.033748f0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > (But do all lesbians love wearing comfortable shoes?) > > -- Natalie > > Possibly not lipstick lesbians. What are lipstick lesbians -- those that want to look ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:19:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1JnuO031757 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:19:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:29 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1JST16594 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT1JQGn096035 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128201846.0336a708@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Good for Dubya In-Reply-To: <9610335008.20031128190440@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for him > > to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. > >self-interest--low morale, griping back home >Karen Yeah, I know. I still don't like the guy. But it did take a little something to pull off that visit. Some risk involved. I think it was a good thing to do. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1LEuO031778 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:21:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F6F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:20:54 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1KrT16696 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:20:53 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT1KIpe001013 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:20:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC7F422.3030809@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:19:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7F3A4.D8F66837@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: > > >> Did you not have snow pants when you were a child in New England? >> > > What are snow pants (as in what are they made out of)? Nylon shell with some sort of thermal stuffing. Every New England child has a pair, which were likely inherited from an older sibling or cousin and will be passed on to the next in line. They typically come in ugly shades of pink, green, and blue. Sometimes they are quilted. One doesn't so much walk when wearing them as do a very noisy swish-swish half-waddle/toddle. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:22:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1MmuO031798 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:22:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:22:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:22:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1MST16812 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:22:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129012222.LTPJ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:22:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:22:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I think I've mentioned before, btw, that Internet Explorer won't let you > > go straight to the picture. You can save the picture on your computer, > > but you can't open it as a web image by itself. Thank goodness for > > Netscape 4.7. > > It's a poor workman who blames his tools... ? I don't get this. What does blaming have to do with anything? My point was that it's quite easy in Netscape 4.7 to click on the menu item that opens an image by itself. And that makes it easy to copy the url and send the image url to somebody you want to see that picture. That can't be done in IE (whatever version I have). You would either have to view the source to find the direct url, or you would have to save the image and screw around with putting it back on the web to send the url for it. So exactly what do you mean about workmen and tools here? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:23:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1NtuO031804 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:23:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F708@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:34 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1NYT16882 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:34 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT1NRGp097280; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202215.00b62650@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Good for Dubya In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:59 PM 11/28/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for him >to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. I just wish that he had checked out a firearm and stayed there. "Bring 'em on" Yeah. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1O6uO031808 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:24:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F6EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:46 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1NjT16906 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129012340.LTVT1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:23:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F51E.4CEFF14C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:23:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for him > to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. Yes. And excellent PR. Karl Rove is tallying the votes already. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:26:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1QZuO031829 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:26:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD1C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1QET17059 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:26:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT1QCAr081070 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:26:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:26:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7F3A4.D8F66837@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What are snow pants (as in what are they made out of)? > -- Natalie I'm not really sure. This was back in the 1950s, before some of the synthetic things we have now. I guess they were a nylon shell with much padding. The shell shed snow. You could get them wet in the snow without the wet coming through to your tender young skin. I think we wore some kind of pants underneath them because I remember my mother holding down the inner pants while the snow pants were pulled over them. Then galoshes. Happy memories. I bought a wreath today and a kissing ball and a dining room table centerpiece. I love the little place where I went. It is a big dirt lot with Christmas trees and simple wreaths made up. Then there is the shack with the wood stove. The shack reminded me of the warming shack where I ice skated as a child. The warming shack had wood floors that couldn't be hurt much by our ice skate blades. The stove was in the middle. Wooden benches around the sides. Some nice but strange old man tended the fire. I wish I could remember his name. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:28:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1SpuO031858 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:28:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F708@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:28:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:28:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1IUT16533 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:30 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT1HQdI022303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:17:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <1746307090.20031128191055@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <224566794.20031128185406@WordWrite.com> <1746307090.20031128191055@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> (Fortunately, there is thermal underwear.) > >which also breaks wind How rude! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1SsuO031861 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:28:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD1FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:28:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:28:34 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1SXT17269 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129012828.LUVN1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:28:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F63D.B3FF59D4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:28:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya References: <3FC7652F.28962.1287BF5@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for > > him to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. > > I'll give him his due too--but it has nothing to do with niceness. His publicity-stunt mavens really are good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:30:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1UAuO031891 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:30:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F716@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:29:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1JnT16632 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:49 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT1IjdI022530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:19:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > What are britches? The alternative spelling for breeches. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1VTuO031899 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:31:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F71F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:31:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:31:08 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1V8T17592 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:31:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129013102.LVMV1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:31:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F6D8.88626773@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:31:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7F3A4.D8F66837@maynor.net> <3FC7F422.3030809@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Nylon shell with some sort of thermal stuffing. Every New > England child has a pair, which were likely inherited from > an older sibling or cousin and will be passed on to the next > in line. They typically come in ugly shades of pink, green, > and blue. Sometimes they are quilted. One doesn't so much > walk when wearing them as do a very noisy swish-swish > half-waddle/toddle. I'm trying to remember a movie scene I've seen that involves that kind of clothing -- something funny with little people waddling around going swish-swish. Thanks for the description. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:35:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1ZTuO031961 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:35:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F738@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:35:08 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1Z8T18034 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:35:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129013503.LWLK1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:35:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F7C8.E5A8CD83@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:35:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128201846.0336a708@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Yeah, I know. I still don't like the guy. But it did take a little > something to pull off that visit. Some risk involved. I think it was a > good thing to do. I think it was good since I'm sure the troops appreciated it. But I do not for a minute think it was his idea or that it was done to be "nice." Nor do I think there was all that much danger involved in his bubbled sneak-in/sneak-out. (And I don't mean to suggest that it was bad for it to be a bubbled sneak-in/sneak-out. It would have been disastrous in many ways if he had been hurt or killed.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1asuO031980 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:36:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:36:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:36:33 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1aXT18166 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:36:33 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112901362501500pqf51e>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:26 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:39:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >Has anyone else run into that? Very common for me, and when I put my phone number in outgoing correspondence, I label it "mobile" instead of "cell." I would judge "mobile" to be associated more with multi-nationality, although some people also use it in preference to "cellular" because cellular denotes a particular technology. E.g., "PCS (Personal Communication Services): Used to describe a newer class of wireless communications services recently authorized by the FCC. PCS systems use a different radio frequency (the 1.9 GHz band) than cellular phones and generally use all digital technology for transmission and reception." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:42:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1gBuO032034 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:42:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD222@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:41:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:41:50 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1fnT18761 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:41:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129014144.LYCV1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC7F95A.847FD407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:41:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > You could get them wet in the snow without > the wet coming through to your tender young skin. I am reminded again of the time my brother and some of the other neighborhood boys told me I should ice-skate (in my galoshes) on the frozen creek, which of course had only a thin film of ice. I naturally got soaked, and my mother made me stay inside while my wet clothes dried over the floor furnace. It was not as if those were the only clothes I possessed -- I think it was a . (The reason they had to dry over the floor furnace was that we had no electricity for ten days during that ice storm. It was a glorious time -- for children, at least.) > I bought a wreath today and a kissing ball and a dining room table > centerpiece. I love the little place where I went. It is a big dirt lot I was thinking when looking at my neighbor's xmas tree earlier tonight that maybe I should get out my xmas decorations this year (in addition to the wreath, which I will put on the door tomorrow). But then I started thinking why bother. I've decided that I'm not having a xmas party this year, so there's really not much point. > with Christmas trees and simple wreaths made up. Then there is the shack > with the wood stove. The shack reminded me of the warming shack where I > ice skated as a child. The warming shack had wood floors that couldn't be > hurt much by our ice skate blades. The stove was in the middle. Wooden > benches around the sides. Some nice but strange old man tended the > fire. I wish I could remember his name. Nice description. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1sDuO032177 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:54:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD237@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:53:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:53:52 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1rqT19708 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:53:52 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112901534401300ds6p0e>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:53:44 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128175008.02894cc0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:56:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Good for Dubya In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128201846.0336a708@pop.gwi.net> References: <9610335008.20031128190440@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195846.0336a368@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes, >But it did take a little something to pull off that visit. Some risk >involved. I think it was a good thing to do. I understand that people might feel that way, but I just don't get it. If I were a grunt employed to ride around in a Humvee on Iraqi roads looking for improvised explosive devices, or a dad spending Thanksgiving day mourning the loss of a kid blown up by an IED, I'd be hard-pressed to appreciate the "risk" involved for the president in pulling the stunt off. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 19:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT1u9uO032207 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:56:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F75A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:55:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:55:48 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f59.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT1tmT19853 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:55:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:55:42 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.11 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:55:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.11] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Good for Dubya Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:55:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2003 01:55:42.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5A8C100:01C3B61B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > I just want to give the guy his due. I think it was a nice gesture for >him > > to fly to Iraq for Thanksgiving. > >Yes. And excellent PR. Karl Rove is tallying the votes already. Aw, c'mon, it was great for troop morale, made for wonderful pictures, had the teevee hairdos acting like he parachuted into Baghdad, has liberals fuming - it's win, win , win any way you look at it. Plus he beat Hillary to Baghdad - way to go, POTUS! _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:14:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2EbuO032575 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:14:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F76F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:14:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:14:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2EGT21661 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:14:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2ECiM017863 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:14:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:15:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1402310743.20031128201530@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: USB ports? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Both of my USB ports seem to be bad. Is there an inexpensive way to install new ports? Like, can I just go to Fry's and buy a USB port or two? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:20:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2K6uO032663 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:20:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F776@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:19:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2J0T21995 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:19:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2IvUh027211 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:20:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> It's a poor workman who blames his tools... > ? I don't get this. What does blaming have to do with anything? You're blaming IE because it doesn't work like Netscape. That's silly. > My > point was that it's quite easy in Netscape 4.7 to click on the menu item > that opens an image by itself. And that makes it easy to copy the url > and send the image url to somebody you want to see that picture. That > can't be done in IE (whatever version I have). You would either have to > view the source to find the direct url, or you would have to save the > image and screw around with putting it back on the web to send the url > for it. > So exactly what do you mean about workmen and tools here? Well, I don't know what version of IE you have, obviously. In IE 6.0, I just right-click, click on properties, and copy the image URL into my e-mail. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:24:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2OtuO032741 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:24:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD267@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:24:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:24:34 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2OXT22568 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:24:34 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112902242801100nn39ue>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:24:28 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:27:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <1402310743.20031128201530@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Both of my USB ports seem to be bad. Is there an inexpensive way to >install new ports? Like, can I just go to Fry's and buy a USB port or >two? You can add an expansion card with USB ports on it, for example: http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3754546 (Didn't shop, just picked a reasonable one as an example.) One doesn't generally replace just the port parts of USB ports -- the back end of them is probably wired to the motherboard. I don't have experience with installing new USB ports, but depending what's wrong with the old ones, you might get IRQ or USB controller conflicts or other nastiness with the new card, too. USB controllers are a hardware device in Settings/Control Panel/System/Device Manager or Add/Remove Hardware. You may end up fiddling with things there. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:38:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2csuO000474 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:38:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F78A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:29:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2TwT23293 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:29:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2TtiM027485 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:29:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:31:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1166993749.20031128203119@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > You can add an expansion card with USB ports on it, for example: > http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3754546 > (Didn't shop, just picked a reasonable one as an example.) Thanks, that's what I was thinking of. I remember I added a serial port to another case a long time ago. > One doesn't generally replace just the port parts of USB ports -- the back > end of them is probably wired to the motherboard. Yes. > I don't have experience with installing new USB ports, but depending what's > wrong with the old ones, you might get IRQ or USB controller conflicts or > other nastiness with the new card, too. USB controllers are a hardware > device in Settings/Control Panel/System/Device Manager or Add/Remove > Hardware. You may end up fiddling with things there. Thanks. I just got e-mail from a friend who says she thinks she has an unused USB card. YaY! I hate computers. I hate knitting. I hate TV. But I love Burl and my ET. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:38:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2csuO000472 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:38:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:28:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:28:32 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2SVT23086 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:28:32 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT2SUCB015100 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:28:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:26:59 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> What are britches? >> > > The alternative spelling for breeches. No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at all in that word. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:38:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2csuO000476 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:38:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F7A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:33:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:33:45 -0500 Received: from vmmr5.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2XjT23862 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:33:45 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr5.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id QIX12512; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVQ20228; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:22:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:19:40 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: USB ports? Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FC7759C.19813.168A60A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1402310743.20031128201530@WordWrite.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Nov 2003 at 20:15, Karen Kay wrote: > Both of my USB ports seem to be bad. Is there an inexpensive way to > install new ports? Like, can I just go to Fry's and buy a USB port or two? Sure. Or three or four. As a PCI card. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:38:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2csuO000475 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:38:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F7AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:30:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:30:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2UxT23466 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:30:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2UuiM028056 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:30:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:32:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1265663748.20031128203220@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at all in that word. Are you imitating your students? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:41:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2fVuO000498 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:41:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F7AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:10 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2f9T24752 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:09 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT2f7Ar001201 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC7F95A.847FD407@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I was thinking when looking at my neighbor's xmas tree earlier tonight >that maybe I should get out my xmas decorations this year (in addition >to the wreath, which I will put on the door tomorrow). But then I >started thinking why bother. I've decided that I'm not having a xmas >party this year, so there's really not much point. > -- Natalie Most years it is only Clyde and me who see our Christmas tree and interior decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. I like to look at them. I like all the memories as I hang up the ornaments that I've collected over the years. I like the quiet house and the pretty lights. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:44:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2i8uO000544 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:44:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F7B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2hlT25040 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT2hjGn015959 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:43:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128214308.03382a98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:43:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <1166993749.20031128203119@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I hate computers. I hate knitting. I hate TV. >Karen Why do you hate knitting? Want me to send you pictures of the two little sweaters I've finished for Christmas presents? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:45:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2j0uO000554 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:45:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F7A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:44:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:44:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2icT25115 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:44:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2iZiM005934 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:44:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:45:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <173832099.20031128204559@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <3FC7759C.19813.168A60A@localhost> References: <3FC7759C.19813.168A60A@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 28 Nov 2003 at 20:15, Karen Kay wrote: >> Both of my USB ports seem to be bad. Is there an inexpensive way to >> install new ports? Like, can I just go to Fry's and buy a USB port or two? > Sure. Or three or four. As a PCI card. As long as I'm in asking about USB mode... Why do some devices say to plug directly into the box and not through a hub? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:45:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2jiuO000586 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:45:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F7BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:45:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:45:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2jNT25228 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:45:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2jKUh012897 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:45:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:46:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Most years it is only Clyde and me who see our Christmas tree and interior > decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. I like to look at > them. I like all the memories as I hang up the ornaments that I've > collected over the years. I like the quiet house and the pretty lights. But you don't eat over the sink, either. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2n6uO000617 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:49:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD2B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:48:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:48:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2miT25575 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:48:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT2mgUh015030 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:48:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:50:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1932542662.20031128205005@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128214308.03382a98@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128214308.03382a98@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I hate computers. I hate knitting. I hate TV. >>Karen > Why do you hate knitting? I managed BREAK THE YARN this afternoon--this really thick stuff. So then I switched stitches to something else, which is really a pain to knit, but not to the point of breaking the yarn. But my fingers were sore. > Want me to send you pictures of the two little > sweaters I've finished for Christmas presents? No, thank you. Want me to send you pictures of the socks I made Ligniere for his birthday? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:51:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2ppuO000636 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:51:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD2BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:51:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:51:30 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT2pTT25890 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:51:29 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-244.gwi.net [216.195.157.244]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT2pSAr003990 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:51:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128215122.0337fbb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:51:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <1932542662.20031128205005@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128214308.03382a98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128182027.045ab110@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128214308.03382a98@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Want me to send you pictures of the socks I made Ligniere for his birthday? >Karen Yes. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 20:55:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT2twuO000695 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:55:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F7E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:55:36 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT2tZT26179 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:55:35 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:36:25 PST Message-ID: <20031129023625.28542.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC7F6D8.88626773@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm trying to remember a movie scene I've seen that > involves that kind > of clothing -- something funny with little people > waddling around going > swish-swish. Thanks for the description. The movie version of Gene Shepherd's childhood Christmas, about BB guns, etc. Peter Billingsley is in it and Darren McGavin. It shows up on your electric teevee each year about this time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT31muO000807 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F7EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT31QT26650 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129030121.ZXGW1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:01:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > >> It's a poor workman who blames his tools... > > > ? I don't get this. What does blaming have to do with anything? > > You're blaming IE because it doesn't work like Netscape. That's silly. Sorry, but I still don't get your workman/blame point. I find Netscape more convenient because I can click on "view image" and see the image -- see what it looks like -- and can then easily copy the url if I want to send it to somebody. My IE doesn't offer that option. I call it a matter of preferring Netscape's feature. Sort of like you prefer a refrigerator with an ice-maker. I hadn't thought of you as exactly other refrigerators, but that's ok if that's how you look at it. But what do workmen have to do with it? > Well, I don't know what version of IE you have, obviously. In IE 6.0, > I just right-click, click on properties, and copy the image URL into > my e-mail. I just checked on my IE version: 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.030422-1633IC. Right-clicking and going to properties does not enable me to see the image by itself, nor does it allow me to copy that url. I must have a mutant version of IE. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:02:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT32juO000811 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:02:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F7ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:24 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (omrnat3.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT32OT26710 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:24 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ATN68870; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVQ22740; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 16:59:39 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: USB ports? Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <173832099.20031128204559@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC7759C.19813.168A60A@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Nov 2003 at 20:45, Karen Kay wrote: > As long as I'm in asking about USB mode... Why do some devices say to plug > directly into the box and not through a hub? Beats me, unless it has something to do with devices that draw their power through the USB port. Pete will know. I bet Pete also can tell me what OST is. Seems to be some sort of video format. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT33XuO000816 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:03:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD2DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:12 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT33BT26755 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:11 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:27:21 PST Message-ID: <20031129022721.3723.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:27:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > No leather chaps for you and yours? Seems like they > would be good for > riding. Did you not have snow pants when you were a > child in New England? As little children, we had snow suits in PA; and our mittens or gloves were clipped to our snow coat sleeves, which made them impossible to lose, but also well nigh impossible to get off or on. As we got older, we graduated to "leggings". We had to wait for the school bus at the top of a slight hill, and if one of us toppled over, he/she rolled in a bundle down the hill until someone or something stopped us. Name labels were sewn inside every piece of cold weather clothing. It took about twenty minutes each to get us undressed or dressed in the "cloak room". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:03:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT33XuO000819 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:03:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F7FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:12 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT33BT26754 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT32Zpe002269 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:02:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC80C12.4010206@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:01:38 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> <1265663748.20031128203220@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, November 28, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at all in that word. >> > > Are you imitating your students? No. Missourians would never say "No sah." I thought britches were old-fashioned kid pants "don't get too big for your britches." The only google references I've found are for diaper covers/toddler panty thingies. I've never seen or heard it as a synonym for breeches or jods. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:03:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT33vuO000824 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:03:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD2DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:35 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT33ZT26778 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:35 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:42:30 PST Message-ID: <20031129024230.30391.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:42:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Most years it is only Clyde and me who see our > Christmas tree and interior > decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. > I like to look at > them. I like all the memories as I hang up the > ornaments that I've > collected over the years. I like the quiet house > and the pretty lights. Precisely. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:06:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT36fuO000840 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:06:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F7E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:06:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:06:20 -0500 Received: from vmmr5.verisignmail.com (vmmrnat.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT36KT26951 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:06:20 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr5.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id QIX14321; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVQ22970; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:06:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:03:37 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FC77FE9.5914.190E26F@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Nov 2003 at 21:01, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I must have a mutant version of IE. = workman blaming tools From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:07:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT37duO000846 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:07:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F7E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:07:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:07:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT37HT27033 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:07:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT37GW1025460 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:07:16 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT37CWq025429; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:07:13 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031128190858.00ad1c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:09:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:14 PM 11/28/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: > > >> They have some tempting shoes. I like my mocha Bostons the > >>best of all my Birks. We have our very own Birk store now > >>-- I get a discount for buying so many pair there ;). > > > >Lesbian shoes. > >How many do you own? Two pair. Have worn out a couple. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:08:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT38ruO000862 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:08:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F801@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:08:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:08:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT38VT27184 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:08:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT38SiM019272 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:08:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:09:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Right-clicking and going to properties does not enable me to see the > image by itself, nor does it allow me to copy that url. I must have a > mutant version of IE. You must. I can copy the URL into the address space at the top of the screen, or into e-mail like this: http://www.cigarusb.com/images/back.jpg. I may have copied the URL from R to L instead of L to R, but that shouldn't make a difference. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:10:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3ALuO000876 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:10:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F7F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:22 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT39MT27283 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT38lpe004586 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:08:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC80D84.7030606@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:07:48 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> <1265663748.20031128203220@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C12.4010206@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > >> On Friday, November 28, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>> No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at all in that word. >>> >> >> Are you imitating your students? > > > > No. Missourians would never say "No sah." I thought > britches were old-fashioned kid pants "don't get too big for > your britches." The only google references I've found are > for diaper covers/toddler panty thingies. I've never seen or > heard it as a synonym for breeches or jods. Further googling has turned up a pretty little flower called Dutchman's Britches and a Lesbian Theatre group called the Split Britches, which dovetails nicely with the shoe thread, giving us a fuller picture of what Lesbians wear. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:10:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3ALuO000877 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:10:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD2E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT39fT27293 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:41 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:40:55 PST Message-ID: <20031129024055.25643.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:40:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >> What are britches? > >> > > > > The alternative spelling for breeches. > > > No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at > all in that word. Or maybe no "r"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3ALuP000876 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:10:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F803@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT39ZT27288 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT392sb022572 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:09:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:10:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <127416020.20031128211057@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC80C12.4010206@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> <1265663748.20031128203220@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C12.4010206@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, November 28, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>> No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at all in that word. >>> >> >> Are you imitating your students? > No. Missourians would never say "No sah." I thought > britches were old-fashioned kid pants "don't get too big for > your britches." The only google references I've found are > for diaper covers/toddler panty thingies. I've never seen or > heard it as a synonym for breeches or jods. Missouri farmers wear britches. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3AMuO000885 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:10:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD2E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT39gT27296 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129030937.ZZLF1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:09:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC80DF2.7671316D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:09:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Most years it is only Clyde and me who see our Christmas tree and interior > decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. I like to look at > them. I like all the memories as I hang up the ornaments that I've > collected over the years. I like the quiet house and the pretty lights. I do remember really, really loving some xmas trees in my early adulthood. I remember buying a small one my first year in Florida and adoring it, even though I was gone for most of the holidays. I also remember the one I got the first year I was single again after being married. I loved decorating that tree. My husband had been adamantly opposed to any recognition of xmas and so of course we never had a xmas tree. I did end up having a xmas party that year -- the forerunner of my later big parties. I had it on Dec. 23. Loved it. Have some great pictures of it. (My ex-husband attended, in spite of his disapproval of xmas.) Maybe I should consider getting a xmas tree this year. But where to put one is sort of a problem. Year before last I put it where the tv set is and moved the tv set into a closet. But that's when I had the tv set on a rolling table. Its current table doesn't roll, and I might also want to watch tv at some point. Will ponder these matters. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:10:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3AMuP000885 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:10:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD2BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3A0T27308 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:10:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT39vUh026842 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:09:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:11:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <368097805.20031128211121@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC77FE9.5914.190E26F@localhost> References: <3FC77FE9.5914.190E26F@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 28 Nov 2003 at 21:01, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I must have a mutant version of IE. = workman blaming tools TYVM! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:12:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3CbuO000943 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:12:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F806@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:12:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3CGT27487 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:12:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT3CCiM021346 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:12:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:13:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1544774792.20031128211335@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC80D84.7030606@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> <1265663748.20031128203220@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C12.4010206@swbell.net> <3FC80D84.7030606@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Further googling has turned up a pretty little flower called > Dutchman's Britches and a Lesbian Theatre group called the > Split Britches, which dovetails nicely with the shoe thread, > giving us a fuller picture of what Lesbians wear. LOL Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3DcuO000969 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:13:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F811@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3DGT27552 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:13:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT3DDiM021874 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:13:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:14:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1864696697.20031128211437@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> References: <3FC7759C.19813.168A60A@localhost> <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > I bet Pete also can tell me what OST is. Seems to be some sort of > video format. See http://www.planeta.com/web/ost.html. Does that help? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:15:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3FxuO001016 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:15:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD2C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:15:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:15:37 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT3FbT27687 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:15:37 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:52:51 PST Message-ID: <20031129025251.12096.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:52:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: SA Info To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For inquiring minds. www.salvationarmyusa.org/ My outgoing mail has developed some kind of hitch - won't go when I tell it to. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:17:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3H7uO001045 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:17:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD2F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:16:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:16:45 -0500 Received: from vmmr9.verisignmail.com (omrnat4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3GjT27735 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:16:45 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr9.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PNM69879; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVQ23560; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:16:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:13:54 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: USB ports? Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FC78252.6073.19A4CA8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1864696697.20031128211437@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Nov 2003 at 21:14, Karen Kay wrote: > See http://www.planeta.com/web/ost.html. Does that help? Thanks, but I don't think so. If I'm offered a movie on DVD or OST, what will I be getting if I choose OST? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:23:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3NguO001162 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:23:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F81D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:23:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:23:21 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3NKT28164 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:23:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129032315.COO1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:23:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8111F.749E95A1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:23:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031129022721.3723.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > clothing. It took about twenty minutes each to get us > undressed or dressed in the "cloak room". Our sixth-grade classrooms had "cloak rooms." That's where we changed clothes on Class Day (aka Graduation -- from elementary school), taking off our fancy white attire and putting on our clothes for the picnic. Or at least that's where the girls changed clothes. We showed off our new bras, since that was the ritualistic date for getting one's first bra. I'm trying to remember now where the boys changed clothes. Or maybe we did it in shifts. We also hung our coats on hooks in the cloak room in winter. (But what did we do in the earlier grades?? Where did we put our coats when we didn't have cloak rooms? Only those sixth grade rooms had them. I need to consult with old classmates on this matter.) Here we are in our sixth-grade Class Day attire: http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Childhood/duling.gif -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:27:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3RmuO001232 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:27:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F832@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3RQT28467 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:27:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT3RNUh006817 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:27:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:28:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <708246239.20031128212846@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <3FC78252.6073.19A4CA8@localhost> References: <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> <3FC78252.6073.19A4CA8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 28 Nov 2003 at 21:14, Karen Kay wrote: >> See http://www.planeta.com/web/ost.html. Does that help? > Thanks, but I don't think so. If I'm offered a movie on DVD or OST, > what will I be getting if I choose OST? Ah. Hm. This is fascinating. I have no idea. Better sound? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:29:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3T5uO001250 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:29:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD317@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:28:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:28:43 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3ShT28553 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:28:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129032838.DWO1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:28:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC81264.50BD980F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:28:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031129023625.28542.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > > I'm trying to remember a movie scene I've seen that > > involves that kind > > of clothing -- something funny with little people > > waddling around going > > swish-swish. Thanks for the description. > > The movie version of Gene Shepherd's childhood > Christmas, about BB guns, etc. Peter Billingsley is > in it and Darren McGavin. It shows up on your > electric teevee each year about this time. Yes! I think that's it. I watched that movie one year because it seemed to be considered a xmas classic, though I had no memory of it at all. I remember finding it boring overall, though obviously I do remember some scenes from it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:31:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3VAuO001295 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:31:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F83D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:30:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:30:49 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT3UmT28709 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:30:48 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:30:43 PST Message-ID: <20031129033043.27853.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:30:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC8111F.749E95A1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Here we are in our sixth-grade Class Day attire: > > http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Childhood/duling.gif Perfect image of innocence, guilelessness, and healthful expectancy! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:32:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3WfuO001331 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:32:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD324@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3WJT28796 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129033214.ESH1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:32:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:32:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > Most years it is only Clyde and me who see our Christmas tree and interior > > decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. I like to look at > > them. I like all the memories as I hang up the ornaments that I've > > collected over the years. I like the quiet house and the pretty lights. > > But you don't eat over the sink, either. ? What does eating over the sink have to do with xmas decorations? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:36:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3aHuO001376 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:36:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F826@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:35:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:35:55 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3ZtT28948 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:35:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129033550.FPY1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:35:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC81417.3F1E12B4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:35:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC77FE9.5914.190E26F@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > I must have a mutant version of IE. = workman blaming tools Hmm. I meant mutant in relation to what Karen said her version did. My version doesn't do what her version does. But I don't see that as workman blaming tools. I am quite content with my tools and find that my workmanship works just fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:50:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3oSuO001521 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F858@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3imT30494 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:44:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT3ifUh017377 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:44:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:46:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <95421595.20031128214604@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC81578.B2479DDA@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> <3FC81578.B2479DDA@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Yes. My IE is mutant in that the properties box does not allow me to > copy anything. Yup. You have a special version for Just You. Who needs a Christmas tree when you have that?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:50:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3oSuO001522 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F86F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:33 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3nWT30858 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129034927.ISO1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC81749.738D5A03@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:49:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031129033043.27853.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Perfect image of innocence, guilelessness, and > healthful expectancy! Indeed! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:50:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3oSuO001520 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F85C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3nKT30816 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FD358@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200311290349.hAT3nKT30816@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:49:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:00:21 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> >shoes. Even jeans aren't a very good choice in wind, unless you wear >> >pantyhose under them. >> >>Jeans are the warmest pants I have - other than my dressy all-wool slacks, >>which I would not wear to, say, the barn. What would be warmer? >>Bethany > >God, bunch of warm weather, no nothing idiots. I'm leaving the room. But >first I'll say this: I didn't mention warmth above. I was talking about >wind. Wind cuts right through denim. Either you layer or you wear >something that's wind proof. Jeez. > Well, actually until nylon windbreakers came along, jeans were partly useful because they were tightly woven enough to cut the wind a little. Since they're cotton, they won't hold warmth when wet as well as wool, but they are not so bad with wind. If you don't choose to spend money on fancy weather-specific clothes, jeans w/ something under (I'd certainly take long johns over pantyhose, though! seem good to my old-fashioned country mind. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:50:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3oSuO001519 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F834@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:41:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:41:48 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3fmT29775 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:41:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129034143.GXA1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:41:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC81578.B2479DDA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Right-clicking and going to properties does not enable me to see the > > image by itself, nor does it allow me to copy that url. I must have a > > mutant version of IE. > > You must. I can copy the URL into the address space at the top of the > screen, or into e-mail like this: Yes. My IE is mutant in that the properties box does not allow me to copy anything. And there is no way for me to give a quick click to see the image by itself. It is obviously my IE version. But it doesn't matter since I use Netscape 4.7 most of the time anyway, and it works fine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:50:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3oSuO001518 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F831@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:40:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3e5T29509 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:40:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT3dUsb015164 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:39:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:41:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Most years it is only Clyde and me who see our Christmas tree and interior >> > decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. I like to look at >> > them. I like all the memories as I hang up the ornaments that I've >> > collected over the years. I like the quiet house and the pretty lights. >> >> But you don't eat over the sink, either. > ? What does eating over the sink have to do with xmas decorations? You said "But then I started thinking why bother. I've decided that I'm not having a xmas party this year, so there's really not much point." Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , but not yourself... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:53:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3rIuO001560 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:53:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD36D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:52:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:52:56 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3quT31632 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:52:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129035251.JJE1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:52:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:52:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > ? What does eating over the sink have to do with xmas decorations? > > You said "But then I started thinking why bother. I've decided that > I'm not having a xmas party this year, so there's really not much > point." > > Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , > but not yourself... Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things like that alone. Somehow the word hops into my mind. Maybe is better. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3uZuO001594 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:56:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F89F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:07 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3u7T32109 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-127.gwi.net [216.195.157.127]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT3u5Ar015489 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128225456.0337f170@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031129022721.3723.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >As little children, we had snow suits in PA; and our >mittens or gloves were clipped to our snow coat Ah yes. And I remember my mother asking how I could have possibly got so wet and snowy walking home from school. I don't remember if I admitted that Rose Ann and I cut through the woods and the field, jumping into every snow-filled ditch on the way. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:56:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3upuO001600 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:56:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5F8A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:29 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3uTT32184 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.141.209]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129035624.KEW1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC818E9.42D723AB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:56:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> <3FC81578.B2479DDA@maynor.net> <95421595.20031128214604@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Yes. My IE is mutant in that the properties box does not allow me to > > copy anything. > > Yup. You have a special version for Just You. Who needs a Christmas > tree when you have that?! Well, it is a fact that a gray box hops up in my IE when I hit properties and that copying is not possible. Whether it's special just for me, I don't know. But it's the way it is. What it has to do with xmas trees, I don't know. I find your snideness exeedingly tiring, however, so don't bother to try to explain the connection. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:57:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3v9uO001607 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:57:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5F8AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3ulT32241 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD388@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200311290356.hAT3ulT32241@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:56:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >> Did you not have snow pants when you were a child in New England? > >What are snow pants (as in what are they made out of)? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) When we were kids, they were made of tight-woven cotton (later nylon) outer layers to resist water, with quilted and filled linings which made our legs swish together when we walked and made us flounder trying to stand if we happened to sit or fall down. Most had suspenders or buttons that attached them to coats or held them up under coats to minimize "snow belly". Since girls had to wear skirts to school, there were all sorts of tucking-in complications to dressing; but with heavy winds, high snowfall, and sometimes -10+ temps they were a necessity. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3w7uO001617 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:58:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F89F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3vjT32547 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD394@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200311290357.hAT3vjT32547@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:57:45 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:19:30 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> bonniev wrote: >> >> >>> Did you not have snow pants when you were a child in New England? >>> >> >> What are snow pants (as in what are they made out of)? > > > Nylon shell with some sort of thermal stuffing. Every New >England child has a pair, which were likely inherited from >an older sibling or cousin and will be passed on to the next >in line. They typically come in ugly shades of pink, green, >and blue. Sometimes they are quilted. One doesn't so much >walk when wearing them as do a very noisy swish-swish >half-waddle/toddle. > LOL! Glad to see our memories tally so closely! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 21:58:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT3wnuO001631 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:58:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD376@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:58:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:58:27 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3wRT00301 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:58:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT3wKiM019405 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:58:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:59:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1658490224.20031128215944@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > ? What does eating over the sink have to do with xmas decorations? >> >> You said "But then I started thinking why bother. I've decided that >> I'm not having a xmas party this year, so there's really not much >> point." >> >> Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , >> but not yourself... > Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things like that alone. > Somehow the word hops into my mind. Maybe is better. I think it's grotesque to let your life be so controlled by the presence or absence of other people. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 22:00:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT40JuO001694 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:00:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F8D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:59:56 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT3xuT00639 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:59:56 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112903595001300du1vae>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:59:50 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195306.02a91e98@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:02:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> References: <173832099.20031128204559@WordWrite.com> <3FC7759C.19813.168A60A@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan writes, >Beats me, unless it has something to do with devices that draw >their power through the USB port. That's it, AFAIK. Hubs don't necessarily provide power, so USB devices that are bus-powered wouldn't work on them. >I bet Pete also can tell me what OST is. Seems to be some sort of >video format. You're over-thinking it. :) "Original SoundTrack." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 22:01:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT414uO001700 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FD3F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:00:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:00:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT40UT00918 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:00:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT40QiM020516 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:00:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:01:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1989240339.20031128220149@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC818E9.42D723AB@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> <3FC81578.B2479DDA@maynor.net> <95421595.20031128214604@WordWrite.com> <3FC818E9.42D723AB@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Well, it is a fact that a gray box hops up in my IE when I hit > properties and that copying is not possible. I have a gray box, too, but yet, I can copy the URL. (I didn't try to copy anything else.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 22:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT42fuO001729 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:02:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:19 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT42JT01553 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FD408@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200311290402.hAT42JT01553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:50:05 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>I hate computers. I hate knitting. I hate TV. >>>Karen > >> Why do you hate knitting? > >I managed BREAK THE YARN this afternoon--this really thick stuff. So >then I switched stitches to something else, which is really a pain to >knit, but not to the point of breaking the yarn. But my fingers were >sore. > >> Want me to send you pictures of the two little >> sweaters I've finished for Christmas presents? > >No, thank you. Want me to send you pictures of the socks I made >Ligniere for his birthday? > >Karen Are they fun socks? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 28 22:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAT43EuO001734 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:03:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5F969@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:52 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT42qT01681 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:02:52 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031129040246014007bovbe>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:02:46 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195608.02a96cb0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:05:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC81578.B2479DDA@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >But it doesn't matter since I use Netscape 4.7 most of the time anyway, >and it works fine. It's killing me not to recommend Mozilla or Firebird to replace IE or old Netscape, so I'll get it off my chest. Everybody should switch to Mozilla (if you need email) or Firebird (just web browser): http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/ Works like IE, except it's better, like Netscape. Windows users should use the installer version from: http://seb.mozdev.org/firebird From that page, download and run either of: MozillaFirebird-0.7-setup.exe MozillaFirebird-webinstall.exe There. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuO003124 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5FAEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:16:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:16:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT4GLT03693 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:16:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT4GJ2f025588 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:16:19 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAT4GIJC025574; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:16:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:18:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:07 PM 11/28/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> > Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , >> > but not yourself... >> >>Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things like that alone. >>Somehow the word hops into my mind. Maybe is better. >> -- Natalie > >I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a >Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and >drink. I know that I would still put up a tree if I was alone. And I >would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down >with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. FTR, I wouldn't. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuO003125 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FAEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:24:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:24:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT4OtT04261 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:24:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT4OqiM004893 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:24:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:26:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 11:07 PM 11/28/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>> > Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , >>> > but not yourself... >>> >>>Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things like that alone. >>>Somehow the word hops into my mind. Maybe is better. >>> -- Natalie >> >>I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a >>Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and >>drink. I know that I would still put up a tree if I was alone. And I >>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down >>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. > FTR, I wouldn't. Why? I would some years, and wouldn't others. Depends on my mood. I do put up Christmas decorations (like my stocking and my Hello Kitty Christmas lights). Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuO003126 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5FB1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:34:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:34:47 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAT4YlT04864 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:34:47 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:58:14 PST Message-ID: <20031129035814.75847.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things > like that alone. > Somehow the word hops into my mind. > Maybe is better. Miss Havisham? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuP003124 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5FD4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 1:14:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:14:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT6EfT12447 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:14:41 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12c.367a3546 (2519) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:14:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12c.367a3546.2cf9934a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:14:34 EST Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/28/2003 7:16:05 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I remember getting *very* strange looks from students in Meridian ------- Which Meridian, where? I live in the one in Idaho at the present. Just curious. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuP003126 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5FD54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 1:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:20:06 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT6K5T12719 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:20:05 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.73.384eef86 (2519) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <73.384eef86.2cf99485@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:19:49 EST Subject: Re: Good for Dubya To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/28/2003 7:35:27 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >It would have been >disastrous in many ways if he had been hurt or killed.) > I'd like an explanation for THAT one for sure! Baffled, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuP003123 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FB5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:58:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:58:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT4wqT06834 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:58:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT4wJsb009051 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:58:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:00:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1035500239.20031128230015@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031129035814.75847.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031129035814.75847.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things >> like that alone. >> Somehow the word hops into my mind. >> Maybe is better. > Miss Havisham? Oh, yeah, she really celebrated life. I strive to emulate her in every way. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuP003125 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5FD44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 1:15:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:15:46 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT6FkT12527 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:15:46 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c1.125ae7f4 (2519) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c1.125ae7f4.2cf99387@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:15:35 EST Subject: Re: Good for Dubya To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/28/2003 7:18:34 PM, mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET writes: >I'll give him his due too--but it has nothing to do with niceness. > You too, huh? :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuQ003123 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5FD61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 1:34:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:34:31 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT6YVT13447 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:34:31 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e7.147affcd (2519) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e7.147affcd.2cf997ed@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:34:21 EST Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/28/2003 10:02:26 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>>I hate computers. I hate knitting. I hate TV. >>>>Karen > I like knitting, but it's really hard to do with only one arm, alas :-( Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuQ003124 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FDEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 2:02:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:02:53 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT72rT16309 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:02:53 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAT6w3IT056956 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:58:05 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@lava.net) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:58:43 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: USB ports? Reply-to: mem@lava.net Message-ID: <3FC7B703.25725.1CC2DA@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195306.02a91e98@mail.istori.com> References: <3FC77EFB.16331.18D4045@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Nov 2003 at 20:02, Peter Kaminski wrote: > You're over-thinking it. :) "Original SoundTrack." I guess that's it. Now that I look back at the place I saw it, I see that make sense. Life is just too simple sometimes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuQ003122 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FD50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 1:36:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:54 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT6asT13526 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAT6akkx017075 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:36:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c3b643$3d1bc500$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Happy Thanksgiving Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:37:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hATB8UuQ003122 Belated wishes for a happy weekend. I'm home from Florida after 5 days of good food and quality time with family. On two hour ride from Omaha airport I watched the low-riding bright golden moon that looked like a wide smile . . or maybe a slice of cheese. It sank behind the horizon very early. Can't believe it's almost December. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuQ003125 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FEA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 3:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:14:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT8EgT20073 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:14:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAT8EekF018206 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:14:40 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAT8Eewm018204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:14:40 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:14:39 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? Message-ID: <20031129081439.GA18189@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = I received a note today that concluded thus (all numbers changed to = protect the guilty): = = (M) (888) 123-4567 = (F) (888) 789-4567 = = I had no idea what (M) and (F) stood for. I asked and was told Mobile and = FAX. = = Has anyone else run into that? It seems crazy to me. FAX is always FAX = (or fax or Fax) - and I never call a telephone a mobile phone. I call it a = cell phone. = = Bethany Here in .nl they're mobile phones. I've gotten plenty of business cards that look like: T +31 20 888 8888 M +31 6 222 22222 F +31 20 888 8889 e blah@blahbhla.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuO003122 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5FA3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:07:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:07:10 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT47AT02687 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:07:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-127.gwi.net [216.195.157.127]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAT477Gn031443 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:07:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:07:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , > > but not yourself... > >Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things like that alone. >Somehow the word hops into my mind. Maybe is better. > -- Natalie I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and drink. I know that I would still put up a tree if I was alone. And I would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuO003123 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A5FAE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:12:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:12:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT4C3T03472 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:12:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT4BvUh003960 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:12:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 22:13:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <102619623.20031128221321@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <200311290402.hAT42JT01553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311290402.hAT42JT01553@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, November 28, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Are they fun socks? No. They are a kind of pale green, with a slightly funky rib and round toes. I wanted something relatively fast, and these are knit on 3's. I started making other socks for him, but they are now going to Paul. They are turning out to be really fabulous socks--the yarn has enormous color depth for a 20% wool yarn. But they are knit on 0's, so they are taking approximately forever. Probably ready for Paul's birthday.:) I've been on the heel flap of the first sock for the past 6 weeks. (I keep messing up and having to undo 4-6 rows.) Those are plain, too, but the yarn is really spectacular. I had to funk up Ligniere's rib because the yarn is pretty flat. It all evens out... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuP003122 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FC2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 0:10:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:09:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT54lT08143 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:04:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAT54gUh004379 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:04:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:06:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Knitting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATB8UuQ003126 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5FEF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 3:58:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:58:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAT8wbT21785 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:58:37 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAT8wakF018259 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:58:36 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAT8wZOu018257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:58:35 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:58:35 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031129085835.GB18189@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <3FC7E011.768FEDEB@maynor.net> <841163924.20031128185836@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F4D0.47F64C99@maynor.net> <1132554402.20031128202021@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C01.B04EB0D7@maynor.net> <1039410392.20031128210951@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195608.02a96cb0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195608.02a96cb0@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski: = Natalie Maynor writes, = = >But it doesn't matter since I use Netscape 4.7 most of the time anyway, = >and it works fine. = = It's killing me not to recommend Mozilla or Firebird to replace IE or old = Netscape, so I'll get it off my chest. = I use Firebird on my work laptop. Makes me happy. I was just thinking that I should get it for this linux box and Oh My God, http://www.mozilla.org has lost it's geeky look! Also, I find the pinball theme a must. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATBpAuO003934 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:51:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A5FFF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 6:50:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:50:45 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATBoeT29109 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:50:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129115035.PODZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8880C.D12BF0C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:50:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a > Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and Who said anything about "can't"?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:53:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATBrXuO003963 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:53:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60001@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 6:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:53:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATBr7T29208 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:53:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129115302.POKG1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:53:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:53:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down > >>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. > > > FTR, I wouldn't. > > Why? I can't answer for Betty, but the idea of fixing a fancy meal sounds like way too much trouble. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATBsXuO003973 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:54:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60002@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 6:54:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:54:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATBs7T29252 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:54:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129115402.PONA1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:54:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC888DB.D89F82CC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:54:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes References: <12c.367a3546.2cf9934a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >I remember getting *very* strange looks from students in Meridian > ------- > Which Meridian, where? I live in the one in Idaho at the present. Meridian, Mississippi. We have a small branch campus there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:55:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATBtquO003983 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:55:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDA3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 6:55:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:55:24 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATBtNT29308 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:55:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129115518.POPS1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC88927.87F2D70C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:55:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya References: <73.384eef86.2cf99485@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >It would have been > >disastrous in many ways if he had been hurt or killed.) > > > I'd like an explanation for THAT one for sure! Baffled, Theo WWIII would be on us in full force, not just in partial force. To name just one effect. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 05:58:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATBwBuO004004 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:58:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A5FFF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 6:57:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:57:45 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATBvjT29410 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:57:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129115740.POVF1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC889B5.298AD531@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:57:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving References: <002301c3b643$3d1bc500$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Belated wishes for a happy weekend. I'm home > from Florida after 5 days of good food and > quality time with family. Welcome home! Was this the first time you'd met the youngest grandchild? I started thinking about that after you'd left and couldn't remember. > On two hour ride from Omaha airport I watched the Thank you for answering this question I asked right after you'd left. I take it the trip to the airport in the questionable weather was successful. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:24:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCOiuO004314 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:24:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6002E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:24:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:24:19 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATCEIT30172 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:14:18 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu ([65.81.244.170]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129121413.QTN1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ra.msstate.edu> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:14:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC88D96.1080603@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:14:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Thanks, Pete! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is my first-ever message from Mozilla. I haven't done much setting up yet -- among other things, don't know where it got my Ra address to suck in as the address to use. Anyway, I wanted my Thanks, Pete to be my first Mozilla mail. It certainly looks familiar. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:44:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCi5uO004665 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:44:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6003C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:43:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:43:40 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATChdT31531 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:43:39 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATChckF018571 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:38 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATChc7A018569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:38 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:37 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! Message-ID: <20031129124337.GA18563@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC88D96.1080603@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC88D96.1080603@ra.msstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = This is my first-ever message from Mozilla. I haven't done much setting = up yet -- among other things, don't know where it got my Ra address to = suck in as the address to use. Anyway, I wanted my Thanks, Pete to be = my first Mozilla mail. It certainly looks familiar. It sucks in anything it can find. If you had Netscape set up for Ra, that's where it got it from. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCl0uO004718 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:47:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:46:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:46:35 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATCkYT31648 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:46:34 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATCkXkF018581 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:46:33 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATCkXlK018579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:46:33 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:46:33 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031129124633.GB18563@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12610221427.20031127165034@WordWrite.com> <3FC68132.5B5F606A@maynor.net> <1662881699.20031127170926@WordWrite.com> <20031128023128.GA14748@yoccoz.multinix.com> <139993242.20031127213141@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <139993242.20031127213141@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Thursday, November 27, 2003, steph wrote: = > I was going to disagree with the confusion a minute ago, but = > couldn't remember what to call that typical-for-Natalie state. = > Thank you. Things for me must be worse than I thought. I'm mega = > stressed at the moment. = = Like Tony Blair? Probably exactly like and nothing at all like Tony Blair. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:53:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCrTuO004810 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:53:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDA81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:53:03 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATCr3T31889 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:53:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129125257.UDIR2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC896AA.1939C28E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:52:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! References: <3FC88D96.1080603@ra.msstate.edu> <20031129124337.GA18563@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > It sucks in anything it can find. If you had Netscape set up for > Ra, that's where it got it from. That's why I was surprised. I do not have Netscape set up for Ra. (I'm back in Netscape temporarily since I still haven't fooled with migration details. Am looking forward to doing so sometime very soon -- like within the next hour or so. Am doing various other things first.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCtbuO004832 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:55:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60041@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:55:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:55:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATCtBT31971 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:55:11 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATCt8W1003221 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:55:08 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATCt6Wq003201; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:55:07 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129045045.00acc850@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:57:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:26 PM 11/28/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, November 28, 2003, Betty wrote: > > At 11:07 PM 11/28/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: > >>> > Eating at a table, decorations, those are things you do for , > >>> > but not yourself... > >>> > >>>Right. It strikes me as kind of weird to do things like that alone. > >>>Somehow the word hops into my mind. Maybe is better. > >>> -- Natalie > >> > >>I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a > >>Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and > >>drink. I know that I would still put up a tree if I was alone. And I > >>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down > >>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. > > > FTR, I wouldn't. > >Why? > >I would some years, and wouldn't others. Depends on my mood. I do put >up Christmas decorations (like my stocking and my Hello Kitty >Christmas lights). Good morning! That is probably what I'd do, too, depending upon my mood. It was nice skipping it all (Christmas decorating) the year we went to Texas. I've worked at the Souper Center before but never on Thanksgiving. I'd do that one year. Several people at work do and good for you, Rashmi. We missed Tony's birthday! Hope it was a good one, Tony. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:56:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCu4uO004836 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:56:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60042@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:55:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:55:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATCtbT31984 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:55:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATCtakF018604 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:36 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATCtako018602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:36 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:36 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes Message-ID: <20031129125536.GC18563@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7DE79.ABE840E8@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031128161247.00abbcd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195642.033748f0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC7F3F3.1E57E31A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC7F3F3.1E57E31A@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = bonniev wrote: = > = > > (But do all lesbians love wearing comfortable shoes?) = > > -- Natalie = > = > Possibly not lipstick lesbians. = = What are lipstick lesbians -- those that want to look ? = The first time I read this I wanted to rant. Now I will sit back and appreciate the wakas. A quiz: http://www.straightacting.com/bfquiz.shtml From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 06:58:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATCw6uO004873 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 06:58:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6003B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 7:57:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:57:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATCveT32172 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:57:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATCvd2f024149 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:57:39 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATCvbJC024115; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:57:38 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129045826.00a4bcf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:00:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8880C.D12BF0C@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:50 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > > > I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a > > Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and > >Who said anything about "can't"?? Exactly. It's freedom of choice and the freedom to not choose what others think you should do on a certain day. Too many Hallmark Holidays controlling our lives, imo. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:00:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATD0quO004931 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:00:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60042@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:00:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:00:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATD0QT32602 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:00:26 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATD0P2f026072 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:00:25 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATD0OJC026053; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:00:24 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:02:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:53 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > > > >>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down > > >>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. > > > > > FTR, I wouldn't. > > > > Why? > >I can't answer for Betty, but the idea of fixing a fancy meal sounds >like way too much trouble. Andronico's will do it for you here and you can have left overs. We didn't have many leftovers this year with 18 people. We didn't use Andronico's, an over priced grocery store, either, but people can if they wish. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:14:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDEIuO005073 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:14:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6005A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:13:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:13:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATD3qT00668 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:03:52 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATD2jdI020242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:02:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:03:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Very common for me, and when I put my phone number in outgoing >correspondence, I label it "mobile" instead of "cell." But do you label it (M)? It was the abbreviations that threw me. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:17:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDHsuO005126 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:17:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:17:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:17:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATD7RT00815 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:07:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATD6OdI020624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:06:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >>> What are britches? >>> >> >> The alternative spelling for breeches. > > > No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at all in that word. No, not in breeches. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:21:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDLYuO005192 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:21:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6005D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:21:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:21:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDB8T00948 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:11:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDA5dI021029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:10:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:11:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie said: >>I was thinking when looking at my neighbor's xmas tree earlier tonight >>that maybe I should get out my xmas decorations this year (in addition >>to the wreath, which I will put on the door tomorrow). But then I >>started thinking why bother. I've decided that I'm not having a xmas >>party this year, so there's really not much point. and bonnie said: >decorations. But it is well worth the bother to me. I like to look at >them. I like all the memories as I hang up the ornaments that I've >collected over the years. I like the quiet house and the pretty lights. I have not made a decision. I will almost certainly not have a tree (but I will next year - it's a matter of time this year, since I am still unpacking boxes), but I may put up lights and arrangements of my . On the other hand, I have all this ROOM. Maybe I will have a tree. I used to have an artificial one - I wonder where it is. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:24:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDOQuO005217 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:24:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60065@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:24:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:24:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDDxT01056 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:13:59 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDCudI021398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:12:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:13:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031129024055.25643.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031129024055.25643.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> What are britches? >> >> >> > >> > The alternative spelling for breeches. >> >> >> No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at >> all in that word. > >Or maybe no "r"? 4 variants so far. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:26:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDQIuO005249 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:26:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6006E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:25:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:25:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDFqT01179 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:15:52 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDEndI021606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:14:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:15:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC80D84.7030606@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128185909.03373c10@pop.gwi.net> <1076335719.20031128190217@WordWrite.com> <3FC7F346.8000308@swbell.net> <3FC803F3.6040006@swbell.net> <1265663748.20031128203220@WordWrite.com> <3FC80C12.4010206@swbell.net> <3FC80D84.7030606@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> No. Missourians would never say "No sah." I thought >> britches were old-fashioned kid pants "don't get too big for >> your britches." The only google references I've found are >> for diaper covers/toddler panty thingies. I've never seen or >> heard it as a synonym for breeches or jods. > > > Further googling has turned up a pretty little flower called >Dutchman's Britches and a Lesbian Theatre group called the >Split Britches, which dovetails nicely with the shoe thread, >giving us a fuller picture of what Lesbians wear. Thank you for this report on your research. We may have one or more thesis or dissertation topics here. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:29:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDTduO005271 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:29:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDA9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:29:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:29:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDJDT01388 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:19:13 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDIAdI022226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:18:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:19:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311290349.hAT3nKT30816@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311290349.hAT3nKT30816@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >If you don't choose to spend money on fancy weather-specific clothes, jeans I still want to know what the alternative is. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:32:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDWluO005319 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:32:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:32:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:21 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDWKT02113 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:21 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-110.gwi.net [216.195.152.110]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATDWIGn014985 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting. >Karen And I've never checked out any of them. I've decided to make myself a Dale of Norway sweater. They are elaborate and knit on small needles. I'll probably use a size 4 needle to get 6 stitches to the inch. If I actually get the Dale of Norway, Helio yarn that my pattern calls for, just the yarn will cost $100. It's a four ply sport weight yarn. I could probably save myself half that money by substituting a made-in-Maine sport weight yarn. The sweater will have these three colors: black, cherry red, natural. After Christmas I shall devote many months to that sweater, switching on and off to a very elaborate cable knit sweater of tunic length for a not-too-tall and somewhat rounded friend. I think they will both be long projects. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:34:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDYOuO005339 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:34:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDAA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:33:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:33:50 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDXnT02138 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:33:50 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-110.gwi.net [216.195.152.110]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATDXmGn015493 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:33:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083300.00b89d80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:34:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Good for Dubya In-Reply-To: <73.384eef86.2cf99485@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >It would have been > >disastrous in many ways if he had been hurt or killed.) > > >I'd like an explanation for THAT one for sure! Baffled, Theo Much of the American public would have been horrified and would have shouted out to demand that we nuke the hell of Iraq and, for good measure, all of the Arab world. That would be disastrous. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:37:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDbQuO005397 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:37:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDAA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:37:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:00 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDb0T02275 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:00 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-110.gwi.net [216.195.152.110]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATDawGn016564 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:36:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8880C.D12BF0C@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a > > Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and > >Who said anything about "can't"?? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Don't and wouldn't are only alternate spellings of can't. There was a motto of some literacy campaign or something similar that said: "If you don't read, it's no different from not being able to read." I agree. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:38:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDcduO005404 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:38:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6006C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:38:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:38:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDSCT01947 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:28:12 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDR9dI023141 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:27:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:28:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: <20031129081439.GA18189@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031129081439.GA18189@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, steph wrote: >Here in .nl they're mobile phones. I've gotten plenty of >business cards that look like: > >T +31 20 888 8888 >M +31 6 222 22222 >F +31 20 888 8889 >e blah@blahbhla.com Ah, thank you. And is (T) an ordinary (for now, anyway) land phone? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDeHuO005427 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:40:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6006F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:39:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:39:52 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDdqT02410 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:39:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDA76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:39:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200311291339.hATDdqT02410@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:39:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:34:21 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/28/2003 10:02:26 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>On Friday, November 28, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>>>I hate computers. I hate knitting. I hate TV. >>>>>Karen >> >I like knitting, but it's really hard to do with only one arm, alas :-( Theo I have a cousin who lost her arm at 14 to cancer - we are the same age, and she was staying with us when she found the lump. She learned to do the Heimlich maneuver 1-handed and saved a small boy from choking in a restautant; and she also learned to knit by fixing one needle between her toes and crossing her leg onto her knee. When my mother's hand (rheumatoid arthritis) was operated on, she was able to wedge the needle in something set on her lap, and knit that way. Both women knit in the continental style, with the thread held taut on the "full" needle, and essentially only one needle that moves a lot. (PS since I am a lefty, Mom taught me first to knit right-handed and then, when that didn't take, set me in front of a mirror to learn left-handed; the result it that I knit in two directions and never have to purl a row!) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:43:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDhQuO005493 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:43:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6005F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:42:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:43:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDh0T02768 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:43:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDAA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:42:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200311291343.hATDh0T02768@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:43:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:19:13 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>If you don't choose to spend money on fancy weather-specific clothes, jeans > >I still want to know what the alternative is. > >Bethany Gore-Tex clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDkGuO005559 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:46:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60060@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:45:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:45:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDZoT02221 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:35:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDYldI024298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:34:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:35:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: test message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is a date test. I just got a note from the UK that said, among other things: >Incidentally there's something amiss with your date identity thingy - your email was recorded here as dating from 31/12/69< Yet in my message, which he included, the date was okay. ??? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:48:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDm9uO005570 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:48:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60062@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:47:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:47:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDbhT02314 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDaddI024587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:36:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: re test message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Apparently it was a burp. I just got this: >ask a techy! it's ok now anyway. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:49:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDnTuO005585 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:49:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60063@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:49:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:49:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDd3T02372 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:39:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDbxdI024755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:39:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: >Don't and wouldn't are only alternate spellings of can't. There was a >motto of some literacy campaign or something similar that said: "If you >don't read, it's no different from not being able to read." I agree. It's official now. Bonnie has spoken. 11/29 is Alternate Spelling Day. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 07:57:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATDvquO005701 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:57:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDAB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 8:57:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:57:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDvQT03428 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:57:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hATDvMkx005063 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:57:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001f01c3b680$c8a17740$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002301c3b643$3d1bc500$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FC889B5.298AD531@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:57:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Belated wishes for a happy weekend. I'm home > > from Florida after 5 days of good food and > > quality time with family. > > Welcome home! Was this the first time you'd met the youngest > grandchild? I started thinking about that after you'd left and couldn't > remember. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No. I had seen Carson on two previous occasions. She's two now, a curly-haired bundle of energy that never stops moving. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:02:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATE2juO005779 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:02:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60071@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:02:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:02:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATDqJT03215 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:52:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATDpFdI026579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:51:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:52:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311291343.hATDh0T02768@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311291343.hATDh0T02768@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Gore-Tex Thank you! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATECbuO005941 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:12:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDAD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:12:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:12:11 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATECBT04211 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:12:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129141206.GMIX1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8A937.DBFECC88@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:12:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129045045.00acc850@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > We missed Tony's birthday! Hope it was a good one, Tony. Oh dear. A belated HB, Tony! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:15:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEFSuO005978 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:15:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60099@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:15:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:15:01 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEF1T04323 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:15:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129141456.GMZG1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:14:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8A9E1.CB34F044@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:14:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031129045826.00a4bcf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > > I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a > > > Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and > > > >Who said anything about "can't"?? > > Exactly. It's freedom of choice and the freedom to not choose what others > think you should do on a certain day. Too many Hallmark Holidays > controlling our lives, imo. Well said, BB. I must admit, though, that I have found it more amusing than annoying to have people squawking about how I should do things in what they consider the way, without seeming to realize that I happen to prefer my way -- and I can't see that it's selfish to indulge myself in this in that I can't see how it harms anybody. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:18:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEIEuO006036 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:18:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60096@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:17:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:17:48 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEHmT04517 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:17:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129141743.GNOG1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8AA88.40B247E8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:17:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Andronico's will do it for you here and you can have left overs. We didn't > have many leftovers this year with 18 people. We didn't use Andronico's, > an over priced grocery store, either, but people can if they wish. I think there are various restaurants here that one can buy Thanksgiving food from -- as in to take home. And I still haven't checked out the place that opened a year or so ago that sells frozen casseroles, etc. -- as in things these two women who own the place have cooked and frozen, not as in Stouffers or whoever. I've heard it's pretty good, though I remember being somewhat put off by the picture accompanying a newspaper story when it opened -- two fat women standing there holding a casserole. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:20:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEKWuO006120 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:20:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A600A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:20:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:20:06 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEK6T04640 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:20:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129142000.GOBA1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:20:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >bonniev wrote: > > > I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't have a > > > Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and > > > >Who said anything about "can't"?? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Don't and wouldn't are only alternate spellings of can't. There was a > motto of some literacy campaign or something similar that said: "If you > don't read, it's no different from not being able to read." I agree. So you think you can't eat over the sink or not have a xmas tree? I really don't see it that way at all. I think you can -- that your choice not to do things my way is something you are choosing, not a can't do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:32:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEWouO006282 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDAB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:32:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:32:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEMOT04756 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:22:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATELJdI031265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:21:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:22:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] In-Reply-To: <3FC8A937.DBFECC88@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129045045.00acc850@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC8A937.DBFECC88@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> We missed Tony's birthday! Hope it was a good one, Tony. > >Oh dear. A belated HB, Tony! Indeed! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:37:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEbTuO006343 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:37:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60091@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:37:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:37:03 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEb2T05276 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:37:02 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATEb1kF018776 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:37:01 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATEb0Cq018774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:37:00 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:37:00 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? Message-ID: <20031129143700.GA18748@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031129081439.GA18189@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, steph wrote: = = >Here in .nl they're mobile phones. I've gotten plenty of = >business cards that look like: = > = >T +31 20 888 8888 = >M +31 6 222 22222 = >F +31 20 888 8889 = >e blah@blahbhla.com = = Ah, thank you. And is (T) an ordinary (for now, anyway) land phone? = = Bethany T is for telephone (or telefoon). There's a certain etiquette to using people's mobile numbers too, so even though you might have someone's mobile number, you wouldn't necesarily use it. So there's always a bit of discussion surrounding all this information exchange. But generally, you can always call someone at their desk (where that T phone would be, unless it's the switchboard, which it also sometimes is). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEhnuO006455 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:43:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDAC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:43:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEhNT05544 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATEhJGn034800 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:43:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129093905.00b4a400@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:43:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8A9E1.CB34F044@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031129045826.00a4bcf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I must admit, though, that I have found it more amusing >than annoying to have people squawking about how I should do things in >what they consider the way, without seeming to realize that I >happen to prefer my way -- and I can't see that it's selfish to indulge >myself in this in that I can't see how it harms anybody. > -- Natalie I think you've missed the point. Of course, you are free to spend your holidays and live your life in any way that you choose. Karen and I have only been saying what we have been saying because you, yourself, seem to enjoy decorating for Christmas when there are others to see it. You, yourself, seem to enjoy a good meal when there are others to feed it to. Thus, we concluded that the decorations and the meals are, in fact, important and enjoyable to you. We don't want you to miss out on enjoyable things just because there is no one to share the joy with. But I will drop the point because it appears that all the joy is in the company for you. I hadn't fully appreciated that. For me the joy is in the decorating and the meal itself. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:48:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEmTuO006519 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:48:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A600BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:48:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:48:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEc1T05319 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:38:01 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATEavdI001090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:36:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:38:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: y'all missed it Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Unless you were listening, you missed NPR's tel call (T) to Guy Bailey. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEnSuO006525 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:49:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDAF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:49:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:49:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEd2T05356 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:39:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATEbxdI001257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:37:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:39:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: <20031129143700.GA18748@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031129081439.GA18189@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031129143700.GA18748@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, steph wrote: >T is for telephone (or telefoon). There's a certain etiquette to >using people's mobile numbers too, so even though you might have >someone's mobile number, you wouldn't necesarily use it. So >there's always a bit of discussion surrounding all this >information exchange. But generally, you can always call someone >at their desk (where that T phone would be, unless it's the >switchboard, which it also sometimes is). So it would always be a land phone - or a switchboard? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEoWuO006530 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:50:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:50:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:50:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEe4T05406 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:40:04 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATEd1dI001382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:39:01 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:40:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Barron's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does anyone subscribe to Barron's? If so, when do you get the next issue? Today? Or Monday? When is it on the newsstand? Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 08:51:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATEpAuO006535 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:51:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:50:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:50:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATEohT05931 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:50:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129145038.GVGQ1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:50:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8B23F.3060702@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:50:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Funny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just got my Words-L mail via Mozilla for the first time -- and it marked every single message as "Junk." I'm training it that one woman's junk is another woman's treasure. Just remembered that I haven't told it a signature yet. Will do that later. Need to go to the p.o. now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:20:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFKWuO006959 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:20:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDB51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:20:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFK5T07564 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:20:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATFK1Uh004633 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:20:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:21:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> >>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down >> >>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. >> >> > FTR, I wouldn't. >> >> Why? > I can't answer for Betty, but the idea of fixing a fancy meal sounds > like way too much trouble. "Special" doesn't mean "fancy". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:27:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFRuuO007056 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:27:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDB2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:27:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:27:23 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFRNT07894 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:27:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATFRLCB007122 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:27:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC8BA8A.4070606@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:26:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031129024055.25643.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>>>> What are britches? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>The alternative spelling for breeches. >>>> >>> >>> No sah! You're kidding. There's no "t" at >>>all in that word. >>> >>Or maybe no "r"? >> > > 4 variants so far. I see an "r" in both "breeches" and "britches." Maybe I'm hallucinating. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFfYuO007209 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:41:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:41:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:41:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFf7T08497 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:41:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATFf2iM008563 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:41:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:42:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1641930311.20031129094229@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting. >>Karen > And I've never checked out any of them. It's a moderately good way to learn. It gives me things to ask about on Monday/Friday knitting, and makes for some interesting conversations. > I've decided to make myself a Dale of Norway sweater. Cool! > They are elaborate and knit on small needles. I'll > probably use a size 4 needle to get 6 stitches to the inch. I don't think a 4 is particularly small. In any case, I recommend circulars, out of the most aesthetic material you can find. (Ebony, rosewood, birch...) I'm a loose knitter--I'd need a 3 to get 6 to the inch. (But I also never knit swatches--which is okay because I don't make big projects.) > If I actually get the Dale of Norway, Helio yarn that my pattern > calls for, just the yarn will cost $100. It's a four ply sport > weight yarn. I could probably save myself half that money by > substituting a made-in-Maine sport weight yarn. The sweater will > have these three colors: black, cherry red, natural. Is it a Dale of Norway pattern? I don't see any need to use the yarn they recommend. Yarns compel me because of color depth and texture. DoN is supposed to be a superior yarn, though. > After Christmas I shall devote many months to that sweater, switching on > and off to a very elaborate cable knit sweater of tunic length for a > not-too-tall and somewhat rounded friend. I think they will both be long > projects. My long project is a cotton crazy quilt blanket. I am knitting 'squares' wherever and whenever I feel like it, out of leftovers. Actually, the needle sizes are varying, too, so it's making the whole process Very Interesting. I don't hesitate to tink on anything else, but I don't on this project unless I really screw up and it won't lie flat. I suspect that I will never make another sweater. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:46:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFkcuO007287 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:46:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:46:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:46:11 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFkBT08819 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:46:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129154606.RVRK1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:46:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8BF3F.8050100@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:46:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Barron's References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Does anyone subscribe to Barron's? If so, when do you get the next issue? >Today? Or Monday? When is it on the newsstand? > > It was one of the things I subscribed to when using up Delta ff miles a while back. I think it has finally expired. Haven't noticed it cluttering my mailbox lately. I have no memory of its arrival schedule, only that it came too often, took up too much mailbox room, and was boring. I glanced at it a couple of times, then routinely tossed it into the recycle bag on my way back from the p.o. And speaking of the p.o., I just saw TWD lying in the sun on the sidewalk beside the p.o. on this cold and quiet day -- quiet in that the campus is deserted. I wonder if maybe I should go buy a hamburger for him somewhere and take it up there. He is apparently pretty good at fending for himself, though. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:50:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFoJuO007312 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:50:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60109@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:49:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:49:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFnqT09124 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:49:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATFnJsb020157 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:49:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:51:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1198338272.20031129095118@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <200311291339.hATDdqT02410@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311291339.hATDdqT02410@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > (PS since I am a lefty, Mom taught me first to knit right-handed and then, > when that didn't take, set me in front of a mirror to learn left-handed; the > result it that I knit in two directions and never have to purl a row!) I know you've said this before, but I can't quite get a handle on this. You mean you can knit from the end of the row back? I would love to not purl, ever. When I broke the yarn yesterday, it was in an effort to purl in back. Btw, it's been cold in the morning, in the 30's and 40's, and I was thinking the other day that I wanted to put something on my hands when I was driving, but I didn't want it to be my leather gloves. Et voila! I remember the Carolyn mittens, so I pulled them out. They are really nice mittens--thank you again. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:50:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFoRuO007315 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:50:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:50:01 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFo0T09131 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:50:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129154955.RWPS1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:49:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C024.2080808@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:49:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031129045826.00a4bcf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129093905.00b4a400@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129093905.00b4a400@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think you've missed the point. Of course, you are free to spend your > holidays and live your life in any way that you choose. Karen and I have But not doing it your way = can't. Or so you said earlier. > But I will drop the point because it appears that all the joy is in the > company for you. I hadn't fully appreciated that. For me the joy is in > the decorating and the meal itself. Bingo! I am happy to know that you don't think one is do those things. I never got that feeling as much from your postings as I did from Karen's, but I did sense that both of you thought I do these things. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:52:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFqEuO007332 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDB50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:51:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:51:47 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFplT09244 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:51:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129155142.RXBU1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:51:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:51:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>>>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down >>>>>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>FTR, I wouldn't. >>>> >>>> >>>Why? >>> >>> >>I can't answer for Betty, but the idea of fixing a fancy meal sounds >>like way too much trouble. >> >> > >"Special" doesn't mean "fancy". > > So what exactly does it mean? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFqmuO007347 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:52:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:52:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:52:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFqLT09292 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:52:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATFpmsb021553 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:51:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:53:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > So you think you can't eat over the sink or not have a xmas tree? I > really don't see it that way at all. I think you can -- that your > choice not to do things my way is something you are choosing, not a > can't do. But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:55:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFtwuO007421 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:55:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:31 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFtVT09426 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129155526.RYBW1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:55:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, >if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? > > I certainly see it as a choice. I'm a believer in free will. I never steal or murder either. That is my choice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 09:59:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATFx1uO007500 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:59:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDB59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:58:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:58:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFwYT09565 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:58:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATFwUUh024253 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:58:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:59:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> >>>Karen Kay wrote: >>> >>>>>>would make myself a special Thanksgiving or Christmas meal and sit down >>>>>>with a cloth napkin and fine china to enjoy it all by myself. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>FTR, I wouldn't. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Why? >>>> >>>> >>>I can't answer for Betty, but the idea of fixing a fancy meal sounds >>>like way too much trouble. >>> >>> >> >>"Special" doesn't mean "fancy". >> >> > So what exactly does it mean? It means special in some way. A departure from the norm on the positive side. For example, making poke is special for me, but slicing up raw fish and throwing unmeasured amounts of soy sauce, sesame oil, and scallions on it is not fancy. Fancy is making some Chinese dish with 30 ingredients and 25 steps, one of which involves letting it sit overnight--twice. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:01:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATG14uO007536 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:01:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A600F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:00:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:00:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATG0bT09660 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:00:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATG0XiM018482 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:00:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:02:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, >>if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? >> >> > I certainly see it as a choice. I'm a believer in free will. I never > steal or murder either. That is my choice. I am happy for you that you believe this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:05:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATG5tuO007624 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:05:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDB94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:05:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:05:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATFtST09421 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:28 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATFsPdI012087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:54:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8BA8A.4070606@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <20031129024055.25643.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC8BA8A.4070606@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >>>Or maybe no "r"? >>> >> >> 4 variants so far. > > > I see an "r" in both "breeches" and "britches." Maybe I'm >hallucinating. No. Blind spot. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:11:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGBUuO007677 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:11:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:11:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:11:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATG13T09714 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:01:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATFxxdI013203 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:59:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:01:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Barron's In-Reply-To: <3FC8BF3F.8050100@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC8BF3F.8050100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >only that it came too often, took up too much mailbox room, and was >boring. I glanced at it a couple of times, then routinely tossed it >into the recycle bag on my way back from the p.o. You did not enjoy Alan Abelson's column? I love it. But of course my favorite electric teevee show is Louis Rukeyser's show, so what would I know? I am going to Border's to look for Barron's - there is a particular story I want to see before Monday. (Yes, it's online, but only for subscribers.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:13:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGDeuO007698 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:13:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDBA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGDDT10544 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:13:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60127@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:13:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200311291613.hATGDDT10544@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:13:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:52:18 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Gore-Tex > >Thank you! > >Bethany You're welcome. In related news, it's snowing like crazy here; my brother from Maine has postponed his trip back for a day due to weather and my parents are with us till the roads clear; it's slick and slippery everywhere and there are at least 2-3 inches already with more on the way. So naturally this is the day that Michael (German) and Mercy (dau.) borrowed my car for her to show him the local sights. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:14:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGEYuO007719 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:14:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60117@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:14:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:14:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGE7T10628 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:14:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDB77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:14:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200311291614.hATGE7T10628@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:14:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:12:07 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >> We missed Tony's birthday! Hope it was a good one, Tony. > >Oh dear. A belated HB, Tony! > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) belated HB, Tony! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:17:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGHkuO007802 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:17:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6011F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:17:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:17:19 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGHIT10983 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:17:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129161713.DMOJ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:17:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:17:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >>>But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, >>>if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? >>> >>> >>I certainly see it as a choice. I'm a believer in free will. I never >>steal or murder either. That is my choice. >> >> >I am happy for you that you believe this. > > Me too! I frankly cannot imagine living in what appears to be your robot world of predestination. I truly don't understand it. I had never been to Iowa until a couple of years ago. How was it that I was suddenly able to go there? According to your philosophy, my not having gone there before was a can't -- that it had nothing to do with choice. Sort of like I can't go to Hawaii or to Mexico City or to Norway. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:20:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGKbuO007844 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:20:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60135@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGKAT11150 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDB81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:20:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200311291620.hATGKAT11150@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:20:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:51:18 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> (PS since I am a lefty, Mom taught me first to knit right-handed and then, >> when that didn't take, set me in front of a mirror to learn left-handed; the >> result it that I knit in two directions and never have to purl a row!) > >I know you've said this before, but I can't quite get a handle on >this. You mean you can knit from the end of the row back? I would love >to not purl, ever. When I broke the yarn yesterday, it was in an >effort to purl in back. > I knit to the end of the row. then I take the now empty needle, insert it in the most recent stitch, and begin to knit again with the other hand, moving (eg) leftward if the last row was knitted rightward. If the thread and full needle was being held in my right hand and being added to (Continental style) the empty needle in my left hand will now be the one to which stitches are added. I should make a video of it, as it's much easier to demonstrate than it is to describe. The hardest part of learning to do it is teaching your hands how to exchange roles. >Btw, it's been cold in the morning, in the 30's and 40's, and I was >thinking the other day that I wanted to put something on my hands when >I was driving, but I didn't want it to be my leather gloves. Et voila! >I remember the Carolyn mittens, so I pulled them out. They are really >nice mittens--thank you again. > You're welcome again - I am so glad they fit you! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:21:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGLguO007855 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:21:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60124@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:21:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:21:15 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGLFT11280 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:21:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129162109.DNRC1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:21:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:21:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>>"Special" doesn't mean "fancy". >>> >>> >>So what exactly does it mean? >> >> > >It means special in some way. A departure from the norm on the >positive side. For example, making poke is special for me, but slicing >up raw fish and throwing unmeasured amounts of soy sauce, sesame oil, >and scallions on it is not fancy. Fancy is making some Chinese dish >with 30 ingredients and 25 steps, one of which involves letting it sit >overnight--twice. > > I still don't think you quite get the fact that not everybody is into eating as much as you are. I can't imagine anything less on the for me than slicing up raw fish. It's fine with me that you like doing stuff like that, but this discussion got started with a very strong implication that you think everybody else should like to do stuff like that also -- that one should cook something special and sit at a table to eat it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:24:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGOFuO007880 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:24:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDBB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:23:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:23:42 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGNgT11517 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:23:42 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hATGNckx008099 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:23:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c3b695$367c3d40$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Pictures Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:23:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hATGOFuO007880 Pictures from Florida: 1. Gene and me with son and his 2 kids. DIL is taking the picture, of course. 2. Grandaughter as she was discovered in the bathroom after her mother realized it had been too quiet in there for a long time. http://tinyurl.com/wzrg - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:25:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGPDuO007887 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:25:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60140@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:24:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:24:46 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGOkT11548 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:24:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129162441.DOPD1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:24:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C84A.4010107@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:24:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Barron's References: <3FC8BF3F.8050100@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >You did not enjoy Alan Abelson's column? I love it. But of course my > > I have no memory of reading any such column. I glanced at a couple of issues, looking mainly at headlines, did not see anything I wanted to bother reading, threw the things away, regretted having chosen Barron's as one of my subscriptions. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:27:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGRCuO007905 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:27:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60131@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:26:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:26:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGQjT11650 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:26:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129162640.DPCA1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8C8C1.7070800@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:26:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pictures References: <001401c3b695$367c3d40$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <001401c3b695$367c3d40$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great pictures! > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:32:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGWiuO007997 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:32:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6013D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:32:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:32:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGWGT11996 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:32:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATGWFeO027619 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:15 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATGWEa2027603; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:32:14 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129082137.00ad02d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:34:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <200311291339.hATDdqT02410@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:39 AM 11/29/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I have a cousin who lost her arm at 14 to cancer - we are the same age, >and she > was staying with us when she found the lump. She learned to do the Heimlich >maneuver 1-handed and saved a small boy from choking in a restautant; and she >also learned to knit by fixing one needle between her toes and crossing >her leg >onto her knee. > >When my mother's hand (rheumatoid arthritis) was operated on, she was able to >wedge the needle in something set on her lap, and knit that way. Both women >knit in the continental style, with the thread held taut on the "full" >needle, and essentially only one needle that moves a lot. That is fantastic. It's amazing what people can do who get these challenges. I see a few who come through the clinics. Puts things in perspective at times. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGXkuO008013 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:33:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60142@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGXJT12065 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATGXI2f014051 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:33:18 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATGXHJC014044; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:33:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129083520.00ad2390@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:35:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:39 AM 11/29/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, bonniev wrote: > > >Don't and wouldn't are only alternate spellings of can't. There was a > >motto of some literacy campaign or something similar that said: "If you > >don't read, it's no different from not being able to read." I agree. > >It's official now. Bonnie has spoken. 11/29 is Alternate Spelling Day. > >Bethany Here! Here! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGbhuO008091 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:37:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60161@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:37:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:37:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGbGT12295 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:37:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATGahsb020046 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:36:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:38:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > According to your philosophy, my not having > gone there before was a can't -- that it had nothing to do with choice. *My* philosophy??? It was Bonnie who talked about can't, not me. And, she's the philosopher, not me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:41:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGfwuO008141 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:41:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:41:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:41:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGfVT12496 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:41:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATGfRUh018054 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:41:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:42:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1969284919.20031129104254@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <200311291620.hATGKAT11150@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311291620.hATGKAT11150@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I should make a video of it, as it's much easier to demonstrate than it is > to describe. The hardest part of learning to do it is teaching your hands > how to exchange roles. This is what I felt about learning to knit continental. And in fact, I gave up when I discovered that a) I am an efficient English knitter and b) people seek to emulate my efficient English knitting! It would be nice to be so efficient I never have to purl. Your description gives me enough to go on with, though. > You're welcome again - I am so glad they fit you! So am I. One of the Friday knitting participants made mittens and they didn't fit me (but they fit her, as they should). I hadn't thought about mittens fitting before, but these definitely do. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGiLuO008169 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:44:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6016E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:43:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:43:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGhsT12613 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:43:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATGhjiM011900 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:43:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:45:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I can't imagine anything less on the > for me than slicing up raw fish. You are entirely missing the point--I'm not suggesting you ever slice raw fish. > It's fine with me that you like doing stuff like that, but this > discussion got started with a very strong implication that you think > everybody else should like to do stuff like that also -- that one > should cook something special and sit at a table to eat it. I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special person now and again. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGuCuO008364 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:56:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60176@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:48:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:48:36 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGmZT12926 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:48:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129164830.RXGB1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8CDDF.6F503F08@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:48:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Public Radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This letter to the editor in the Clarion-Ledger makes me wonder how I've missed these changes the person is complaining about. I guess it has to do with the times of day I'm most likely to be in my car. Anyway, reading it was a WLM: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/29/l05.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGuCuO008365 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:56:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6017D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:50:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:50:30 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGoUT13034 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:50:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129165025.RXSN1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:50:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:50:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > According to your philosophy, my not having > > gone there before was a can't -- that it had nothing to do with choice. > > *My* philosophy??? It was Bonnie who talked about can't, not me. And, > she's the philosopher, not me. She first mentioned it, but you echoed it only a few postings ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGuCuO008363 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:56:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60155@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:45:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:45:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGjiT12711 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:45:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATGjBsb026486 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:45:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:47:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special > person now and again. And yes, this is a very strongly held belief. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 10:57:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATGv6uO008375 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:57:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDBF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:56:39 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGucT13579 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:56:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129165633.RZGP1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:56:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:56:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I can't imagine anything less on the > > for me than slicing up raw fish. > > You are entirely missing the point--I'm not suggesting you ever slice raw fish. > > > It's fine with me that you like doing stuff like that, but this > > discussion got started with a very strong implication that you think > > everybody else should like to do stuff like that also -- that one > > should cook something special and sit at a table to eat it. > > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special > person now and again. You are entirely missing the point. I have never disagreed with the point of treating oneself as a special person now and again. It's just that you seem to think you're in charge of the rules of the game. You have repeatedly made snide remarks about my CHOICE to eat in front of the sink. And then you got onto this thing about my CHOOSING not to put up xmas decorations being like eating in front of the sink. You are obviously incapable of understanding that things that might make *you* feel like are not necessarily things that would make somebody else feel that way. Your blinders are quite securely attached. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:00:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATH0JuO008438 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:00:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6018C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:59:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:59:52 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATGxqT13834 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:59:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129165946.SAAC1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:59:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:59:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special > > person now and again. > > And yes, this is a very strongly held belief. And in your world it involves feeding your face. In mine it doesn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:18:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHIZuO008698 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:18:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDC1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:18:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:18:07 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHI7T15014 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:18:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATHI5Ar083748 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:18:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:18:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <1641930311.20031129094229@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >In any case, I recommend circulars, out of the most aesthetic material you >can find. (Ebony, >rosewood, birch...) I have a whole set of wooden needles, except for the size 8 which one of the cats cut her teeth on when she was a kitten. But they aren't circular. The Dale of Norway stuff is made with circular needles. Even when you make a cardigan, you knit it on circular needles and then cut it. Ouch! I'm going to make a pullover. I have lots of non-wooden circulars. I actually prefer metal needles. The yarn slips along better. >I'm a loose knitter--I'd need a 3 to get 6 to the inch. I'm a tight knitter. I do make swatches. I usually knit adult sweaters with a size 8 needle. A size 4 needle might just take twice as long, not to mention that I might go blind following the charts. But I've been thinking about this for about three years. I think I'm ready. My stitch'n'bitch friends and the lady who owns the yarn shop are encouraging me to go for it. >Is it a Dale of Norway pattern? Yes, it is. It's the Fossekallen pattern in my Dalegarn pattern book. It is beeyootiful. Very complex. >I don't see any need to use the yarn they recommend. Yarns compel me >because of color depth and texture. DoN is supposed to be a superior >yarn, though. I did talk to a woman at not-my-usual yarn shop yesterday. I love Icelandic yarn. They make a Lopi Light. But she said that I shouldn't use that for a Dale of Norway sweater. It would make it too bulky and too stiff. I'm sure she is right. I'm going to go down to Bath, Maine on Tuesday and stop at the Halcyon Yarn Shop. http://www.halcyonyarn.com/ I'll see what they say about Dale of Norway Helio vs. Bartlett sport weight. >I suspect that I will never make another sweater. >Karen Why? Cost of yarn? Don't need it in the Texas sun? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHXYuO008976 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A601EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:23:36 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHNaT15426 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:23:36 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATHNYGn081162 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:23:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122124.00b89d80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:23:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It means special in some way. A departure from the norm on the >positive side. For example, making poke is special for me, but slicing >up raw fish and throwing unmeasured amounts of soy sauce, sesame oil, >and scallions on it is not fancy. Fancy is making some Chinese dish >with 30 ingredients and 25 steps, one of which involves letting it sit >overnight--twice. --Karen It sounds like you are describing levels of complexity. To me fancy, in this context, is table linens, a candle, good dishes. Whereas special could just be a better meal than usual eaten at the table with a book instead of at the sink. Alone at the holidays, I'd go for both special and fancy. Otherwise it wouldn't seem like much of a holiday and I would feel unnecessarily deprived of a cultural treat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHXYuO008975 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60190@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:12:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:12:41 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHCfT14651 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:12:41 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112917123401200brhece>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:12:34 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:15:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! In-Reply-To: <3FC88D96.1080603@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Anyway, I wanted my Thanks, Pete to be my first Mozilla mail. :) You're welcome! Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHXYuO008978 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A601EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:30:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:30:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHU8T15908 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:30:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATHU6eO030725 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:30:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATHU5a2030711; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:30:05 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129093054.00a495c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:32:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8A9E1.CB34F044@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031129045826.00a4bcf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:14 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > > I think it's sad to think that just because you are alone you can't > have a > > > > Christmas tree or set a table and have a special feast of food and > > > > > >Who said anything about "can't"?? > > > > Exactly. It's freedom of choice and the freedom to not choose what others > > think you should do on a certain day. Too many Hallmark Holidays > > controlling our lives, imo. > >Well said, BB. I must admit, though, that I have found it more amusing >than annoying to have people squawking about how I should do things in >what they consider the way, without seeming to realize that I >happen to prefer my way -- and I can't see that it's selfish to indulge >myself in this in that I can't see how it harms anybody. I find that people generally get upset when you don't things the way they think you should. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHXYuP008974 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A601EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:31:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:31:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHVdT15954 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:31:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATHVb2f022041 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:31:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATHVaJC022021; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:31:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:33:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8AA88.40B247E8@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:17 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > Andronico's will do it for you here and you can have left overs. We didn't > > have many leftovers this year with 18 people. We didn't use Andronico's, > > an over priced grocery store, either, but people can if they wish. > >I think there are various restaurants here that one can buy Thanksgiving >food from -- as in to take home. And I still haven't checked out the >place that opened a year or so ago that sells frozen casseroles, etc. -- >as in things these two women who own the place have cooked and frozen, >not as in Stouffers or whoever. I've heard it's pretty good, though I >remember being somewhat put off by the picture accompanying a newspaper >story when it opened -- two fat women standing there holding a >casserole. Are you prejudiced against fat people? I have a friend who admits she is but feels badly about it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:33:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHXYuO008974 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6019F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHBlT14539 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112917113701100nn8o6e>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:11:39 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129085042.02a9edd0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:14:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany writes, >But do you label it (M)? It was the abbreviations that threw me. I don't, but like Steph I've seen single-letter abbreviations enough on business cards and sigs that it doesn't seem odd. Here are some of the single letter sets used in recently-acquired business cards: O, F (office, fax) T, F, E, W (tel, fax, email, web) T, F (tel, fax) e, v, f, c (email, voice, fax, cell) T, F, E (tel, fax, email) T, F (tel, fax) w, p (web, phone) M (mobile) v, f (voice, fax) Some of these are from pretty staid organizations, too: a law firm, two VCs, and an architectural firm. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:33:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHXYuO008977 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:33:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A601E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:29:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:29:23 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHTNT15825 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:29:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATHTLAr085572 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:29:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122717.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:29:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> References: <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > According to your philosophy, my not having > > gone there before was a can't -- that it had nothing to do with choice. > >*My* philosophy??? It was Bonnie who talked about can't, not me. And, >she's the philosopher, not me. --Karen I meant "can't" as in "can't bring myself to that", not as "incapable of making that choice." I, for example, could not bring myself to eat over the sink. Too trailer-parkish. I'd think less of myself. But I imagine, in highly unusual circumstances, I could be forced or enticed to eat over the sink. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 11:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATHoQuO009388 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:50:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDC77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:49:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:49:51 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATHnoT16989 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:49:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129174945.TELE1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8DC3A.6E960F90@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:49:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >Anyway, I wanted my Thanks, Pete to be my first Mozilla mail. > > :) > > You're welcome! I've still got lots of tweaking to do with it. Either it doesn't offer as many options as Netscape 4.7 mail, or I haven't found all the places to change settings. Quite likely the latter since I haven't really fooled with it much yet. I'm back in regular Netscape at the moment, where things can move faster since it's familiar. Among other things I want to change in Mozilla is the way it quotes. It draws ugly lines down the left side and leaves fat spaces that are something of a bother to delete. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:00:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATI0SuO009603 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:00:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6022F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:00:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:00:01 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATI01T17607 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:00:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129175954.FMCA1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:59:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8DE9C.5540ACA2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:59:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122124.00b89d80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > could just be a better meal than usual eaten at the table with a book I've never liked trying to read and eat at the same time. I'm not good at multi-tasking. > instead of at the sink. Alone at the holidays, I'd go for both special and > fancy. Otherwise it wouldn't seem like much of a holiday and I would feel > unnecessarily deprived of a cultural treat. What is the cultural treat? The fancy trappings? I can't remember much about the holiday meals in my childhood. We sometimes went to football games in Vicksburg on Thanksgiving and would eat a picnic in the park. When we were at home, my mother did the things one is expected to do, like cooking turkey or whatever, but we weren't into waiting until the middle of the afternoon to eat the way many people do. And I don't think we ate huge amounts of anything. We weren't like these Thanksgiving movies full of endless food. Since we regularly expressed thanks for our blessings, we didn't really need a special day set aside for it. Thanksgiving was always pretty ho-hum. And having to stop and eat was a major annoyance on Christmas in my childhood. I really don't remember much about the trappings. Maybe we ate on the Haviland china. I don't remember. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATI2suO009639 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:02:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDCA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:02:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:02:26 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATI2QT17932 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:02:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129180219.FMQQ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:02:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8DF2E.96A41F3E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:02:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122717.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I meant "can't" as in "can't bring myself to that", not as "incapable of > making that choice." I, for example, could not bring myself to eat over > the sink. Too trailer-parkish. I'd think less of myself. But I imagine, > in highly unusual circumstances, I could be forced or enticed to eat over > the sink. Ah so. That's not my usual interpretation of "can't." I could certainly bring myself to eat at the diningroom table with silver and decent china if I saw any particular reason for doing so. I don't put the urgings of you and Karen into the category of a good reason for doing so, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:05:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATI5YuO009696 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:05:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60249@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:05:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:05:06 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATI56T18066 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:05:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129180459.FNFI1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:04:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8DFCE.289B6F55@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:05:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031129045826.00a4bcf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093054.00a495c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >Well said, BB. I must admit, though, that I have found it more amusing > >than annoying to have people squawking about how I should do things in > >what they consider the way, without seeming to realize that I > >happen to prefer my way -- and I can't see that it's selfish to indulge > >myself in this in that I can't see how it harms anybody. > > I find that people generally get upset when you don't things the way they > think you should. I think all people have to stop and remove their cultural blinders at times -- stop and remind themselves that not everybody sees things we find important as being important, etc. I'm not sure that I can remember having encountered anybody else with blinders as unremovable as Karen's. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:08:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATI87uO009727 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:08:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60230@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATI7dT18197 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129180734.FNRU1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:07:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8E067.6AE61EC2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:07:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >remember being somewhat put off by the picture accompanying a newspaper > >story when it opened -- two fat women standing there holding a > >casserole. > > Are you prejudiced against fat people? I have a friend who admits she is > but feels badly about it. No. But I don't think it's good pr for a newly opened home-made food place to show a picture of the two fat people who own and run it. My reaction to the picture was to think, "I wonder what ingredients are in those casseroles." (The casseroles they make and sell were said to be their personal favorites.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:09:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATI9JuO009732 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:09:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60233@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:08:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:08:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATI8oT18239 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:08:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATI8nkF019189 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:08:49 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATI8n15019187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:08:49 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:08:48 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: y'all missed it Message-ID: <20031129180848.GA19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = Unless you were listening, you missed NPR's tel call (T) to Guy Bailey. = = Bethany tel? yuck. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:11:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIBruO009766 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:11:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60249@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIBPT18352 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112918111901100no8sbe>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:11:19 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129101046.04553038@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:13:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Name That War Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU New York Times op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof recounts some of the entries in his "Name That War" contest: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/29/opinion/29KRIS.html The five winners are "Dubya Dubya III"; "Rolling Blunder"; "Desert Slog," "Mess in Potamia"; and "Blood, Baath and Beyond." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIJKuO009864 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:19:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDCBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:18:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:18:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIIqT18912 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:18:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATIIoW1019216 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:18:50 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATIInWq019190; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:18:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129102038.00a49e70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:21:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> References: <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:47 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special > > person now and again. > >And yes, this is a very strongly held belief. > >Karen Yes! A day at the spa. A massage. A good meal. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:22:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIMsuO009904 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:22:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60251@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:22:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:22:26 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIMQT19307 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:22:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15c.2819b110 (3988) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <15c.2819b110.2cfa3dd1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:22:09 EST Subject: Re: Lesbian shoes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 5:54:30 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Meridian, Mississippi. We have a small branch campus there. -------------- OIC Way out of my way then! Too bad actually. Coulda used the company sometimes.... Thanks anyway Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:27:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIRvuO009975 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60256@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:27:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:27:29 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIRTT19543 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:27:29 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031129182721014007am6ee>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:27:21 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129102719.04552708@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:30:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! In-Reply-To: <3FC8DC3A.6E960F90@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I've still got lots of tweaking to do with it. Either it doesn't offer >as many options as Netscape 4.7 mail, or I haven't found all the places >to change settings. The geeky programmer back-door with no documentation is to enter "about:config" in the Location Bar. There are two plugins that offer a nicer interface: MozTweak: http://mozillapl.mozdev.org/ Preferential: http://preferential.mozdev.org/ Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:29:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATITiuO010010 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:29:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDCC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATITGT19614 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6d.1db2bb1c (3988) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.1db2bb1c.2cfa3f6f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:03 EST Subject: Re: Good for Dubya To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 5:55:37 AM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >WWIII would be on us in full force, not just in partial force. To name >just one effect. > You really think Bush or any of his cronies being alive could spare us from a serious war? Keep on dreaming! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:41:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIfBuO010226 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:41:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDCB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:40:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:40:43 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIehT20434 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:40:43 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b8.4c5f568a (3988) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:40:23 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:40:23 EST Subject: Re: Good for Dubya To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 7:34:10 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >Much of the American public would have been horrified and would have >shouted out to demand that we nuke the hell of Iraq and, for good measure, >all of the Arab world. That would be disastrous. > Huh??? Perhaps I'm not one of them, but I surely would not have demanded nuking Iraq or any country, for sure. What's WITH you people? More baffled than ever now. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:41:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIfpuO010242 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:41:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDCE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:41:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:41:23 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIfNT20473 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:41:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129184117.SWEE1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8E84E.96676F9B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:41:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129102719.04552708@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > The geeky programmer back-door with no documentation is to enter > "about:config" in the Location Bar. > > There are two plugins that offer a nicer interface: > > MozTweak: http://mozillapl.mozdev.org/ > Preferential: http://preferential.mozdev.org/ All of that looks way above my head. Is Mozilla for ordinary people, or do you need to be a geek to use it happily? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:43:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIhhuO010270 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:43:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIhET20573 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATIhDkF019256 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:43:13 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATIhDR6019254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:43:13 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:43:13 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = Karen Kay wrote: = > = > On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: = > > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special = > > person now and again. = > = > And yes, this is a very strongly held belief. = = And in your world it involves feeding your face. In mine it doesn't. = So Natalie, how do you treat yourself like a special person? Do you buy new cars? Do you take in strays? Do you buy an extra pair of Birkenstocks? Do you throw parties? Do you buy new computer things? Do you eat chocolate? Do you read trashy novels? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:43:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIhmuO010274 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:43:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6029E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:20 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIhKT20579 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129184315.SWOE1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8E8C4.8834F79F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:43:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya References: <6d.1db2bb1c.2cfa3f6f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > >WWIII would be on us in full force, not just in partial force. To name > >just one effect. > > > You really think Bush or any of his cronies being alive could spare us from a > serious war? Keep on dreaming! Theo We are in a serious war. But so far the world hasn't been totally destroyed. That may happen yet, but it would happen quite a bit faster if he had been assassinated while visiting Iraq. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:45:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIjGuO010302 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:45:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6029F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:44:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:44:48 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIimT20633 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:44:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129184440.SWUZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8E919.C2AD0785@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:44:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good for Dubya References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > In a message dated 11/29/2003 7:34:10 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: > > >Much of the American public would have been horrified and would have > >shouted out to demand that we nuke the hell of Iraq and, for good measure, > >all of the Arab world. That would be disastrous. > > > Huh??? Perhaps I'm not one of them, but I surely would not have demanded > nuking Iraq or any country, for sure. What's WITH you people? More baffled than > ever now. Theo I don't think it wold be left up to you to decide personally. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:46:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIkfuO010315 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:46:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDCEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:46:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:46:13 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIkCT20715 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:46:12 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATIkBkF019272 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:46:11 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATIkA1b019270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:46:10 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:46:10 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031129184610.GC19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >story when it opened -- two fat women standing there holding a = >casserole. = = Are you prejudiced against fat people? I have a friend who admits she is = but feels badly about it. = = Betty She is but she won't admit it. Remember the whole fat-woman-in-shorts thread? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:49:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATInuuO010364 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:49:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A602A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:28 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATInST20872 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c6.12832486 (3988) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1c6.12832486.2cfa442d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:17 EST Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 7:40:04 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >also learned to knit by fixing one needle between her toes and crossing >her leg >onto her knee. > It may be possible to relearn it that way when you're young, but I also lost the use of ALL of one side of my body due to brain damage, and was already middle aged. Only my "thinking" half seemed to have escaped damage; much to some peoples dismay :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:50:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIo4uO010367 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:50:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6028A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:36 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATInaT20882 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129184931.SXSW1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:49:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > So Natalie, how do you treat yourself like a special person? Do > you buy new cars? Do you take in strays? Do you buy an extra > pair of Birkenstocks? Do you throw parties? Do you buy new > computer things? Do you eat chocolate? Do you read trashy > novels? Lots of ways, including most of the ones you named above. I'm not sure about "trashy novels." It just occurred to me that I've always assumed that meant trashy with steamy sex scenes, etc. I rarely read that kind of novel. But I certainly enjoy reading what I call "junk books" -- books without any literary merit. What just occurred to me is that maybe that's what "trashy novels" means -- like appropriate for throwing away. Other things I do are go on trips, have a membership in the hospital gym so that I can go swimming, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIrouO010421 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:53:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60294@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:53:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:53:22 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIrMT21153 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:53:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129185316.SYOZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8EB1D.465FA24@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:53:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031129184610.GC19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = Are you prejudiced against fat people? I have a friend who admits she is > = but feels badly about it. > = > = Betty > > She is but she won't admit it. Remember the whole > fat-woman-in-shorts thread? What fat-woman-in-shorts thread? Who was the fat woman in shorts? Fwiw, I do prefer for people to dress in ways that don't violate what are the generally accepted aesthetic tastes of a country -- and note the "generally accepted" -- I realize that not everybody has exactly the same taste. In general, I believe that fat women look ridiculous in shorts. But I don't see how that constitutes a prejudice against fat people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:56:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIuDuO010434 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:56:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:45 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATItiT21241 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129185539.SZCB1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8EBAC.C1B8E687@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:55:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129102719.04552708@mail.istori.com> <3FC8E84E.96676F9B@maynor.net> <20031129184758.GD19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Tools | Options (or is it Edit | Preferences?) I've been to those places. There's very little there. The only choice about quoting, for example, is whether you want it above or below your reply (and whether you want it automatic). No place to tell it to use > style instead of that ugly line. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:56:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIuSuO010450 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:56:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A602B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:54 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATItrT21252 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATItqW1006697 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:52 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATItpWq006690; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:55:51 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:58:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031129184610.GC19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:46 PM 11/29/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >= >story when it opened -- two fat women standing there holding a >= >casserole. >= >= Are you prejudiced against fat people? I have a friend who admits she is >= but feels badly about it. >= >= Betty > >She is but she won't admit it. Remember the whole >fat-woman-in-shorts thread? It's coming back to me! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 12:58:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATIwUuO010482 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:58:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDCBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:48:01 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATIm0T20812 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:48:00 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATIlxkF019282 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:47:59 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATIlxBD019280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:47:59 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:47:58 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! Message-ID: <20031129184758.GD19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129102719.04552708@mail.istori.com> <3FC8E84E.96676F9B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC8E84E.96676F9B@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = All of that looks way above my head. Is Mozilla for ordinary people, or = do you need to be a geek to use it happily? = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Tools | Options (or is it Edit | Preferences?) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:01:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJ1euO010537 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:01:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:12 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJ1BT21621 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129190106.TAGS1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8ECF3.1050505@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:01:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > It's coming back to me! WEIRD! Suddenly it's using > style, but I promise that I have not found the place to tell it to do that!! I have it to. Mazilla is my faithful servant, getting into my head and figuring out what I want to do! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:07:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJ74uO010620 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:07:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:06:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:06:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJ6ZT21879 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:06:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATJ6YeO030249 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:06:34 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATJ6Wa2030233; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:06:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129110813.00ada290@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:08:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8ECF3.1050505@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:01 PM 11/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>It's coming back to me! > >WEIRD! Suddenly it's using > style, but I promise that I have not found >the place to tell it to do that!! I have it to. Mazilla is my >faithful servant, getting into my head and figuring out what I want to do! Or what you should do or what it thinks you should do? Stand strong, Natalie. Do it YOUR way. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:11:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJBsuO010694 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A602B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:11:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:11:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJBQT22266 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:11:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129191120.FEAW1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:11:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8EF5A.3090301@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129050007.00ad0cd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129093255.00acc9e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129105733.00a4a160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129110813.00ada290@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129110813.00ada290@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: >> WEIRD! Suddenly it's using > style, but I promise that I have not found >> the place to tell it to do that!! I have it to. Mazilla is my >> faithful servant, getting into my head and figuring out what I want to >> do! > > Or what you should do or what it thinks you should do? Stand strong, > Natalie. Do it YOUR way. I'm working on it. But I can't figure out how it has magically started doing it my way instead of the way it thought I should be doing it. Fwiw, at the same time it started doing it my way (with > style), it started putting the quoted material in blue print. Before that, the ugly line to the left was blue, but the print was black. This is mega weird. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:15:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJFfuO010775 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:15:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A602D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJFDT22741 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATJFAiM005645 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:15:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:16:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> > According to your philosophy, my not having >> > gone there before was a can't -- that it had nothing to do with choice. >> >> *My* philosophy??? It was Bonnie who talked about can't, not me. And, >> she's the philosopher, not me. > She first mentioned it, but you echoed it only a few postings ago. You'll have to show me where. I believe that you are fully capable of doing whatever you choose to do. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:16:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJGeuO010800 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:16:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A602BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:11 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJGBT22780 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:11 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112919160501600cf0e2e>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:16:05 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129105825.02a3d6f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:18:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! In-Reply-To: <3FC8E84E.96676F9B@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129102719.04552708@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >All of that looks way above my head. Is Mozilla for ordinary people, or >do you need to be a geek to use it happily? It's fine for ordinary people, but you may end up preferring 4.7 still. Mozilla proper is fine, but the Firebird browser-only project has had an intense focus on clean usability, and so Firebird is currently a little more finely tuned for ordinary people than Mozilla. I use Firebird and sponsored-mode Eudora. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:16:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJGhuO010804 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:16:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A602D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJGFT22787 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:16:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATJFdsb010000 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:15:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:17:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > You are entirely missing the point. I have never disagreed with the > point of treating oneself as a special person now and again. It's just > that you seem to think you're in charge of the rules of the game. Not at all. But food and decorations are basic ways to do this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:18:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJIguO010822 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:18:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:18:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:18:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJIDT22924 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:18:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATJHcsb011204 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:17:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:19:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <39713279.20031129131940@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special >> > person now and again. >> >> And yes, this is a very strongly held belief. > And in your world it involves feeding your face. In mine it doesn't. It has very little, if anything, to do with food. It has far more to do with presentation and ambience. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:21:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJL8uO010862 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:21:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A602C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:20:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:20:40 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJKeT23058 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:20:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129192034.FGCQ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:20:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:20:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>She first mentioned it, but you echoed it only a few postings ago. > > You'll have to show me where. I believe that you are fully capable of > doing whatever you choose to do. *********************** >Karen Kay wrote: >>>>But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, >>>>if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *********************** Sort of like Dubya's lies that technically aren't lies, you will respond, "But that's a question, not a statement." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:23:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJN2uO010869 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:23:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:22:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:22:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJCXT22353 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:12:33 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATJBKdI014171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:11:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:12:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311291613.hATGDDT10544@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311291613.hATGDDT10544@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >So naturally this is the day that Michael (German) and Mercy (dau.) borrowed >my car for her to show him the local sights. Sounds right. It's a family holiday, after all. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:24:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJOFuO010878 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:24:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:47 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJNkT23372 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129192341.FGVE1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8F23E.2030204@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:23:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>You are entirely missing the point. I have never disagreed with the >>point of treating oneself as a special person now and again. It's just >>that you seem to think you're in charge of the rules of the game. > > Not at all. But food and decorations are basic ways to do this. Basic ways that **YOU** like to do it. They are not things that would make me feel . Your suggestion that I am somehow depriving myself by not choosing to do those things is tunnel-visioned. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:29:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJT6uO010944 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A602DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:28:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:28:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJIcT22942 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:18:38 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATJHZdI014836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:17:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:18:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129085042.02a9edd0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129085042.02a9edd0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >O, F (office, fax) >T, F, E, W (tel, fax, email, web) >T, F (tel, fax) >e, v, f, c (email, voice, fax, cell) >T, F, E (tel, fax, email) >T, F (tel, fax) >w, p (web, phone) >M (mobile) >v, f (voice, fax) Thanks. I have just revised my sigline a second time. (It's my sigline - I do not intentionally post it here.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:30:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJUDuO010975 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:30:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A602F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:29:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:29:45 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJTiT23692 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:29:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129192939.FIEW1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC8F3A4.4080006@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:29:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Thanks, Pete! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129084722.04110298@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129102719.04552708@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129105825.02a3d6f0@mail.istori.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129105825.02a3d6f0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Mozilla proper is fine, but the Firebird browser-only project has had an > intense focus on clean usability, and so Firebird is currently a little > more finely tuned for ordinary people than Mozilla. I use Firebird and > sponsored-mode Eudora. I definitely prefer Mozilla (so far) to Eudora. I uninstalled Eudora a little while ago -- which was where, btw, Mozilla had grabbed the Ra settings. I occasionally used it for Ra mail if I was expecting a file from somebody. I haven't done much browsing yet with Mozilla. The bookmarks it sucked in from IE are unusable, but that's ok. I didn't tell it to suck them in in the first place. I'll probably continue using IE for genealogy stuff, something I got into the habit of a good while back as sort of a keep-that-stuff-separate routine. I used Netscape for everything else but may use Mozilla now. I haven't checked yet to see what happened with Netscape bookmarks. In fact, I didn't notice them sucked in at all. Maybe they're there somewhere. I also haven't tried to move my Netscape address book yet since there's a long list of steps involved in doing it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:51:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJpbuO011302 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:51:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FDDA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:51:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:51:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJp9T25076 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:51:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATJoWsb003925 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:50:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:52:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <737869006.20031129135233@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, bonniev wrote: > The Dale of Norway stuff is made with circular needles. Even > when you make a cardigan, you knit it on circular needles and then cut > it. Ouch! Steke! One woman I know took a class to get over the fear. > I'm going to make a pullover. I have lots of non-wooden > circulars. I actually prefer metal needles. The yarn slips along better. Ebony circulars are very nice. I have some bamboo ones, too. > I usually knit adult sweaters with a size 8 needle. A size 4 needle > might just take twice as long, not to mention that I might go blind > following the charts. Ah, yes, following the charts... I don't think a 4 will take twice as long, though. Depends on the amount of repetition, though. > But I've been thinking about this for about three years. I think I'm > ready. My stitch'n'bitch friends and the lady who owns the yarn shop > are encouraging me to go for it. YaY!!! Go for it!!! >>Is it a Dale of Norway pattern? > Yes, it is. It's the Fossekallen pattern in my Dalegarn pattern book. It > is beeyootiful. Very complex. Neat. What is fossekallen? Fish? Scales? > I did talk to a woman at not-my-usual yarn shop yesterday. I love > Icelandic yarn. They make a Lopi Light. But she said that I shouldn't use > that for a Dale of Norway sweater. It would make it too bulky and too > stiff. I'm sure she is right. I think so, too. Icelandic designs tend not to be as detail-driven as some of the Norwegian designs I've seen, and I think that's because of the yarn. (This is a gross oversimplification, of course.) I knit several icelandic sweaters a long time ago--one was shades of purple with a cream base. > I'm going to go down to Bath, Maine on > Tuesday and stop at the Halcyon Yarn Shop. > http://www.halcyonyarn.com/ I'll see what they say about Dale of Norway > Helio vs. Bartlett sport weight. Ohmigod. This place is not at all expensive--you can buy cones, which will be better for knitting the sweater. Fewer joins. They have beautiful stuff--I want to go with you!!!! And I want to have a lot of money when I go!!!! >>I suspect that I will never make another sweater. > Why? Cost of yarn? Don't need it in the Texas sun? I don't wear sweaters. Ever. They make me too hot. Most of my knitting has been for other people, but I find it difficult to knit things I can't imagine myself wearing. Maybe I'll feel differently when I start spinning more, I dunno. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJsXuO011349 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:54:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDDA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:54:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:54:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJs4T25300 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:54:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATJs1iM026071 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:54:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:55:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12810179794.20031129135529@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8DF2E.96A41F3E@maynor.net> References: <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122717.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8DF2E.96A41F3E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I could certainly bring myself to eat at the diningroom table with > silver and decent china if I saw any particular reason for doing so. > I don't put the urgings of you and Karen into the category of a good > reason for doing so, though. Neither do I. I'm not urging you to do something so against your nature. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 13:56:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATJuhuO011371 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:56:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60343@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:56:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJuET25465 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:56:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATJu9Uh005524 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:56:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:57:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1259929028.20031129135736@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129102038.00a49e70@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129102038.00a49e70@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 10:47 AM 11/29/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> > I think everyone should like to treat themselves alone as a special >> > person now and again. >> >>And yes, this is a very strongly held belief. >> >>Karen > Yes! A day at the spa. A massage. A good meal. I have no fear about you treating yourself as a special person, Betty.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:00:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATK0IuO011474 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:00:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATJxnT25911 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDD8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200311291959.hATJxnT25911@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:59:49 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Pictures To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:23:58 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Pictures from Florida: >1. Gene and me with son and his 2 kids. > DIL is taking the picture, of course. >2. Grandaughter as she was discovered > in the bathroom after her mother realized > it had been too quiet in there for a long time. > >http://tinyurl.com/wzrg > > > - D. M. Gotta love Spa Day! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:01:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATK1AuO011485 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60348@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:00:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:00:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATK0fT26024 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:00:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATK0ZUh008505 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:00:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:02:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>She first mentioned it, but you echoed it only a few postings ago. >> >> You'll have to show me where. I believe that you are fully capable of >> doing whatever you choose to do. > *********************** > >Karen Kay wrote: > >>>>But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, > >>>>if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > *********************** > Sort of like Dubya's lies that technically aren't lies, you will > respond, "But that's a question, not a statement." It *is* a question. One I don't profess to know the answer to. I'm sorry you have difficulty accepting that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATK1EuO011488 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6035B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:00:46 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATK0jT26035 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hATK0ikF019465 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:00:44 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hATK0hDs019462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:00:43 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:00:43 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031129200043.GA19426@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122717.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8DF2E.96A41F3E@maynor.net> <12810179794.20031129135529@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12810179794.20031129135529@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: = > I could certainly bring myself to eat at the diningroom table with = > silver and decent china if I saw any particular reason for doing so. = > I don't put the urgings of you and Karen into the category of a good = > reason for doing so, though. = = Neither do I. I'm not urging you to do something so against your nature. = = Karen So now that I've coughed up ways that Natalie does make herself feel special, are you still worried? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:02:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATK2IuO011513 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:02:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDDC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:01:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:01:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATK1jT26150 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:01:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATK1gUh009235 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:01:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:03:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <288605588.20031129140310@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC8F23E.2030204@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F23E.2030204@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>You are entirely missing the point. I have never disagreed with the >>>point of treating oneself as a special person now and again. It's just >>>that you seem to think you're in charge of the rules of the game. >> >> Not at all. But food and decorations are basic ways to do this. > Basic ways that **YOU** like to do it. Basic ways that we do it in our culture. > Your suggestion that I am somehow depriving > myself by not choosing to do those things is tunnel-visioned. Whatever. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:02:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATK2guO011517 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:02:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60363@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:02:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:02:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATK2DT26234 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:02:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATK2AUh009502 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:02:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:03:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1657858234.20031129140337@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129085042.02a9edd0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >>O, F (office, fax) >>T, F, E, W (tel, fax, email, web) >>T, F (tel, fax) >>e, v, f, c (email, voice, fax, cell) >>T, F, E (tel, fax, email) >>T, F (tel, fax) >>w, p (web, phone) >>M (mobile) >>v, f (voice, fax) > Thanks. I have just revised my sigline a second time. (It's my > sigline - I do not intentionally post it here.) But what does it say, now? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:05:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATK51uO011537 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:05:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6036B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:04:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:04:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATK4WT26780 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:04:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATK3vsb015389 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:03:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:05:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <73224242.20031129140559@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031129200043.GA19426@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129122717.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8DF2E.96A41F3E@maynor.net> <12810179794.20031129135529@WordWrite.com> <20031129200043.GA19426@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, steph wrote: > Karen Kay: > = On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: = >> I could certainly bring myself to eat at the diningroom table with = >> silver and decent china if I saw any particular reason for doing so. = >> I don't put the urgings of you and Karen into the category of a good = >> reason for doing so, though. > = > = Neither do I. I'm not urging you to do something so against your nature. > = > = Karen > So now that I've coughed up ways that Natalie does make herself > feel special, are you still worried? I'm still thinking about this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:17:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATKH7uO011701 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:17:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A603A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:16:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:16:38 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATKGcT28287 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:16:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A603B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:16:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200311292016.hATKGcT28287@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:16:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:49:17 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/29/2003 7:40:04 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>also learned to knit by fixing one needle between her toes and crossing >>her leg >>onto her knee. >> >It may be possible to relearn it that way when you're young, but I also lost >the use of ALL of one side of my body due to brain damage, and was already >middle aged. >Only my "thinking" half seemed to have escaped damage; much to some peoples >dismay :-} >Theo Yes, I was aware of the difference and didn't mean to suggest it would be easy. I know that it would be so slow and would involve so many adjustments and corrections that I would hate to do it myself. I can barely knit under ordinary circumstances - my muscles tense up from concentration. I am sure my cousin only did it because someone told her she couldn't. She was determined to be an independent person, and was able to do so because she was young and resilient, and still had good neurological control. I did think that if you wanted to very much, there might be a way to use a needle stuck in place so it couldn't move. But it would be, as I said, more work than I would want to do. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATKKBuO011735 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:20:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A603BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATKJgT28728 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDDC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200311292019.hATKJgT28728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:12:23 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>So naturally this is the day that Michael (German) and Mercy (dau.) borrowed >>my car for her to show him the local sights. > >Sounds right. It's a family holiday, after all. > >Bethany That was a remark about the weather. E.G., the route they took was closed at the next exit south due to an accident while they were coming home, and they had difficulty getting back - but they are back now. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:22:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATKM5uO011755 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:22:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A603BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:21:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:21:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATKLaT28997 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:21:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATKLXiM011949 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:21:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:23:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11010621058.20031129142301@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311292019.hATKJgT28728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311292019.hATKJgT28728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > they had difficulty getting back - but they are back now. YaY! I'm glad. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:28:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATKSIuO011796 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:28:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A603B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:27:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:27:49 -0500 Received: from relay.npr.org (relay.npr.org [205.153.36.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATKHnT28468 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:17:49 -0500 Received: from mta.npr.org (mta.npr.org [205.153.36.167]) by relay.npr.org (Switch-3.0.5/Switch-3.0.0) with ESMTP id hATLY2S9030124 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:34:02 -0500 Received: from Mercury5.npr.org (mercury5.npr.org [172.31.2.55]) by mta.npr.org (Switch-3.0.5/Switch-3.0.0) with ESMTP id hATKMHp0013833 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:22:17 -0500 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by Mercury5.npr.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hATKHX923081; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:17:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:17:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200311292017.hATKHX923081@Mercury5.npr.org> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Michael E. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 14:48:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATKmWuO012058 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:48:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A603DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:48:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:48:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATKm3T30638 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:48:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATKm1eO031864 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:48:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATKm0a2031857; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:48:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129124958.00ae6b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:50:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Pictures In-Reply-To: <200311291959.hATJxnT25911@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:59 PM 11/29/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:23:58 -0600, Doris Markland >wrote: > > >Pictures from Florida: > >1. Gene and me with son and his 2 kids. > > DIL is taking the picture, of course. > >2. Grandaughter as she was discovered > > in the bathroom after her mother realized > > it had been too quiet in there for a long time. > > > >http://tinyurl.com/wzrg > > > > > > - D. M. > >Gotta love Spa Day! >clo Yes, these are great to see, Doris. Thanks. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLJ3uO012512 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6044E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:18:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:18:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLIXT00343 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:18:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATLILiM015452 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:18:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:19:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1034039024.20031129151949@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Computer stores MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On the rec of a friend, I went to a local computer store (i.e., not Fry's) to buy my USB card. I'm going to buy as much as I can from them in the future. They were cheaper than Overstock.com, and the service was far better and much kinder. Sometimes I feel like these local electronics stores are as much in danger as independent bookstores are. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLU8uO012657 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:30:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6043F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLJcT00446 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATLJZAr049425 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129161130.00bc3b10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <737869006.20031129135233@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Neat. What is fossekallen? Fish? Scales? Hmmm. I don't know. > > Tuesday and stop at the Halcyon Yarn Shop. > > http://www.halcyonyarn.com/ > >Ohmigod. This place is not at all expensive--you can buy cones, which will be >better for knitting the sweater. Fewer joins. Nice, eh? I haven't ever been there. But the woman who owns the Inn where I work in the season was there last month and raved about it. They have samples knitted of some of the sweaters. She fell in love with this tunic length, cable-knit sweater that they were showing. She bought the pattern in the hopes that I would make it for her. I couldn't make heads or tails of the pattern. But I'm sure I could figure it out as I go. She hasn't bought any yarn yet. I hope they are still displaying the sweater when I get there on Tuesday. Bath, Maine is almost three hours south of us. >but I find it difficult to knit things I >can't imagine myself wearing. Maybe I'll feel differently when I start >spinning more, I dunno. --Karen The same woman I mentioned above, bought the wool of a whole sheep when she was at the Common Ground Fair this past fall. http://www.mofga.org/fb01.html Since then she has taken a spinning class and bought a wheel. Last week I saw the wool that she had washed and combed. So incredibly soft! The first yarn she spun was very thick. But now she has the hang of it and made a ball of nicely plied yarn. It's quite different from the smelly wool she brought back with her to the Inn the day of the Common Ground Fair. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:34:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLYkuO012722 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:34:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDEA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:34:17 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLYGT01411 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:34:17 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D0C112B689; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18F52B582 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:34:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:34:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <73224242.20031129140559@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > So now that I've coughed up ways that Natalie does make herself > > feel special, are you still worried? I'm sick of reading about treating yourself as 'special.' I think the whole concept of 'special' is pathetic. I do have the concept of 'treat' but I draw the line there. There's something infantile about 'making yourself feel special.' Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:35:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLZnuO012761 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:35:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FDE7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:35:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:35:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLZKT01487 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:35:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATLYdsb027096 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:34:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:36:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5410533535.20031129153641@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129161130.00bc3b10@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129120316.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129161130.00bc3b10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Nice, eh? I haven't ever been there. But the woman who owns the Inn where > I work in the season was there last month and raved about it. They have > samples knitted of some of the sweaters. That's how they suck you in! > She fell in love with this tunic length, cable-knit sweater that > they were showing. She bought the pattern in the hopes that I would > make it for her. I couldn't make heads or tails of the pattern. But > I'm sure I could figure it out as I go. She hasn't bought any yarn > yet. I hope they are still displaying the sweater when I get there > on Tuesday. Bath, Maine is almost three hours south of us. Take the digital camera and take pictures of the places you think will be troublesome. > The same woman I mentioned above, bought the wool of a whole sheep when she > was at the Common Ground Fair this past > fall. They call them fleeces.:) This is a funny synchronicity--I was looking at the Common Ground page about 5 minutes ago, for another reason. > Since then she has taken a spinning class and bought a wheel. Last > week I saw the wool that she had washed and combed. So incredibly > soft! The first yarn she spun was very thick. But now she has the > hang of it and made a ball of nicely plied yarn. It's quite > different from the smelly wool she brought back with her to the Inn > the day of the Common Ground Fair. Oh, yes. It's not a fast process at all, which is why you can buy fleece/wool at various stages. I'm using a spindle to spin; can't afford a wheel. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:39:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLdVuO012824 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:39:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6048A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLd2T01678 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:39:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATLd02f019919 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:39:00 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hATLcxJC019903; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:38:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129134058.00adca90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:41:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <73224242.20031129140559@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:34 PM 11/29/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > > So now that I've coughed up ways that Natalie does make herself > > > feel special, are you still worried? > >I'm sick of reading about treating yourself as 'special.' I think the >whole concept of 'special' is pathetic. > >I do have the concept of 'treat' but I draw the line there. There's >something infantile about 'making yourself feel special.' > >Ann Reminds me of the Church Lady. Isn't that special? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:44:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLiUuO012887 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:44:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6048E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:44:01 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLi1T01926 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:44:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129214356.HCIC1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:43:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:43:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>*********************** >> >Karen Kay wrote: > > >> >>>>But if it's what you always do, if you never choose to eat at a table, >> >>>>if you never have Christmas for yourself--is it really a choice? >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>*********************** > >>Sort of like Dubya's lies that technically aren't lies, you will >>respond, "But that's a question, not a statement." > > > It *is* a question. One I don't profess to know the answer to. I'm > sorry you have difficulty accepting that. Uh huh. I do profess to know the answer. The answer is yes -- choosing not to do something is a choice. (I'm not sure what "having Christmas" means, btw. How does one have xmas?) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:48:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLmiuO012952 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:48:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60499@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLcFT01637 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:38:15 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATLbAdI006043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:37:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:38:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: (M), (F)? In-Reply-To: <1657858234.20031129140337@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171225.024d67e8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129085042.02a9edd0@mail.istori.com> <1657858234.20031129140337@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Thanks. I have just revised my sigline a second time. (It's my >> sigline - I do not intentionally post it here.) > >But what does it say, now? About what it always did. But with the letters. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLnauO012977 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60488@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:49:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLd7T01684 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:39:07 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATLc3dI006147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:38:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200311292019.hATKJgT28728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200311292019.hATKJgT28728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>So naturally this is the day that Michael (German) and Mercy (dau.) borrowed >>>my car for her to show him the local sights. >> >>Sounds right. It's a family holiday, after all. >> >>Bethany > >That was a remark about the weather. And family. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLoluO012986 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:50:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A604A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:50:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:50:18 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLeIT01767 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:40:18 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATLdFdI006344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:39:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129134058.00adca90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <73224242.20031129140559@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129134058.00adca90@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Betty wrote: >Reminds me of the Church Lady. Isn't that special? Clone! My thought exactly. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:53:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLrAuO013010 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:53:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60491@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:52:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:52:40 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLqeT02529 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:52:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATLqdm6022376 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:52:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FC914D7.5070504@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:51:19 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Poor Natalie. If I lived alone, I wouldn't bother with a big dinner. I might make a little bit of turkey and stuffing and open up a can of Ocean Spray cranberry jellied cranberry sauce just so I could have turkey-n-stuffing sandwiches for the week, but that's because nobody in Missouri has ever heard of a turkey-n-stuffing sandwich, one of the world's sublime delights, but I digress. I wouldn't decorate, either. I'd go to church and call it good. Then play with my dogs and read a good book. Maybe when I'm an old lady I'll have my horses in the back yard at last, and I could just take a ride with the dogs. That would be a perfect Christmas. Not that Christmas isn't delightful with Ana at this age. It really is. But it's a lot of work to pull it off, and it makes me very, very tired. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLtPuO013032 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:55:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60499@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:54:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:54:51 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLsoT02648 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:54:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129215445.HEUS1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:54:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC915A6.3080002@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:54:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F23E.2030204@maynor.net> <288605588.20031129140310@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <288605588.20031129140310@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>>You are entirely missing the point. I have never disagreed with the >>>>point of treating oneself as a special person now and again. It's just >>>>that you seem to think you're in charge of the rules of the game. >>> >>>Not at all. But food and decorations are basic ways to do this. > >>Basic ways that **YOU** like to do it. > > Basic ways that we do it in our culture. We who? Although we always had a xmas tree (until my mother got old and said she really didn't want one), food was never a significant part of my family's . My mother always said that eating was a requirement to keep the body going, and she was always conscious of good nutrition. But we never considered meals . We had no meals (other than the expected turkey on Thanksgiving since my parents were always conformists). I think we had either turkey or ham on xmas also, though my main memory was that it was a bother to have to stop playing and eat lunch. My mother was always happy to have meals over with and the dishes washed. She was never a complainer, but it was obvious that she found cooking one of life's tedious chores. We ate decent meals every day and did not do anything particularly different on holidays. I have no particular food associations with holidays except for knowing that turkey is traditional on Thanksgiving and that eggnog is consumed around xmas. Anyway, it is not within my cultural experience to think of food as a way to make myself feel . A bottle of champagne maybe -- though it doesn't last very well and a whole bottle is too much to consume alone, so it is not something I normally choose for special-feeling. (They used to sell champagne in splits. I don't think I've seen any in years. I remember feeling quite special and loving it one time while sitting on a motel balcony in Key West drinking champagne that I had just bought in a split.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 15:57:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATLvquO013046 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:57:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A604C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:57:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATLlNT02237 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:47:23 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hATLkKdI007620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:46:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Uh huh. I do profess to know the answer. The answer is yes -- choosing >not to do something is a choice. (I'm not sure what "having Christmas" >means, btw. How does one have xmas?) Careful. Do not answer. If there is a right way to , then Natalie will declare Christmas anathema. Remember ? Or maybe she has already declared it anathema. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:00:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATM0euO013117 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:00:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A604E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATM0AT03178 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATLxZsb016266 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:59:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:00:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <933326742.20031129160009@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Uh huh. I do profess to know the answer. The answer is yes -- choosing > not to do something is a choice. Sometimes we--and by 'we' I mean me--making choices because we are compelled to do so by other psychological factors that we don't recognize or understand at the time. > (I'm not sure what "having Christmas" > means, btw. How does one have xmas?) I don't know how one has xmas, but one has Christmas by celebrating it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:01:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATM1GuO013131 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:01:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A604F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATM0jT03304 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129220041.HGBT1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:00:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC91709.7060605@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:00:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <73224242.20031129140559@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129134058.00adca90@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129134058.00adca90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: >> I do have the concept of 'treat' but I draw the line there. There's >> something infantile about 'making yourself feel special.' >> >> Ann > > Reminds me of the Church Lady. Isn't that special? The Church Lady? I agree with Annbork, btw, in not liking the wording of 'making yourself feel special.' When I said I understood it and engaged in it, I was talking about treats. I have not ever thought, "I am going to do this so I can feel special." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:04:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATM4BuO013193 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:04:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60520@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:03:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:03:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATM3fT03734 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:03:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATM3bUh021282 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:03:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:03:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1052613463.20031129160337@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC915A6.3080002@maynor.net> References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F23E.2030204@maynor.net> <288605588.20031129140310@WordWrite.com> <3FC915A6.3080002@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>>Not at all. But food and decorations are basic ways to do this. >> >>>Basic ways that **YOU** like to do it. >> >> Basic ways that we do it in our culture. > We who? Americans. Or Japanese, actually. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:07:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATM6xuO013248 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:07:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60544@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:06:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:06:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATM6UT03886 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:06:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATM6MUh023163 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:06:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:06:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <684900473.20031129160622@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC91709.7060605@maynor.net> References: <73224242.20031129140559@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031129134058.00adca90@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC91709.7060605@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I have not ever thought, "I am going to do this > so I can feel special." Nor have I, actually. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:13:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMDKuO013341 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6055B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:12:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:12:51 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMCpT04340 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:12:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129221245.GVHU1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:12:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC919DF.3050907@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:12:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Copy Con Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I really must have alzheimers. I seem to have forgotten how to end the copy con command. I just went to make a new signature file for Ra for when I want to use Mozilla -- meaning a sig file on my own computer, not the sig file I have on Ra. But ctrl-z wouldn't end the file. SO I decided maybe it was ctrl-c. When I tried that, I got a strange error message. What *is* the command? I feel mightily stupid. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:14:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMEPuO013361 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:14:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6054B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:13:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:13:55 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMDtT04403 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:13:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129221350.GVOF1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:13:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC91A1F.90201@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:13:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Careful. Do not answer. If there is a right way to , then > Natalie will declare Christmas anathema. Remember ? > > Or maybe she has already declared it anathema. Huh? When have I declared prayers anathema? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:16:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMGLuO013406 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:16:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60564@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:15:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:15:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMFpT04537 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:15:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATMFeUh028792 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:15:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:15:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1809420937.20031129161540@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Do I have to worry? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm thinking about giving Burl some leftover turkey to chew on. There are no big bones, but there are thin pointy bones that she could hurt herself on and tendons she could choke on. Do I have to worry about her? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:18:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMI4uO013417 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:18:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:17:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:17:35 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMHZT04631 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:17:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129221729.GWNN1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:17:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC91AFB.3070503@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:17:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <933326742.20031129160009@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <933326742.20031129160009@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I don't know how one has xmas, but one has Christmas by celebrating > it. I love xmas parties, those I give and those I attend. And I love xmas music (loved it more when I could still sing but still love it). That's why I was hoping to go to NYC before xmas -- there's great music during the week before xmas. I very definitely celebrate xmas. I have not particularly cared for xmas day itself since childhood, though. All the fun things are over by the 25th. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:19:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMJpuO013463 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60559@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:19:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:19:21 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMJLT04727 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:19:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129221916.GWZQ1942.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC91B65.2040602@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:19:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC81814.7831B391@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CFC2.C210D8F1@maynor.net> <1777556601.20031129131740@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F23E.2030204@maynor.net> <288605588.20031129140310@WordWrite.com> <3FC915A6.3080002@maynor.net> <1052613463.20031129160337@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1052613463.20031129160337@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>>>>Not at all. But food and decorations are basic ways to do this. >>> >>>>Basic ways that **YOU** like to do it. >>> >>>Basic ways that we do it in our culture. > >>We who? > > Americans. Or Japanese, actually. I have never paid attention to the food part. I'm aware of decorations. The only holiday I have food memories about is Halloween. I loved trick-or-treating, and we'd take our candy to school the next day and exchange with friends. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:41:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMfpuO013720 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:41:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FDFBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:41:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:41:22 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMfLT06283 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:41:22 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hATMfIGp051259; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:41:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129173711.00b1a3c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:41:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Do I have to worry? In-Reply-To: <1809420937.20031129161540@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:15 PM 11/29/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >I'm thinking about giving Burl some leftover turkey to chew on. There >are no big bones, but there are thin pointy bones that she could hurt >herself on and tendons she could choke on. Do I have to worry about >her? Probably not. Cats are reasonably careful about how they eat, so the bones shouldn't be much of a problem. With the tendons/ligaments, if a cat can't chew them up, they won't try to swallow them. A dog, on the other hand, tends to gulp its food in fairly large chunks, which is why small, sharp bones (or for that matter, any sort of fowl bones that they can cursh and splinter) can give them a problem. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMkEuO013778 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:46:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A605A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:45:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:45:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMjiT06591 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:45:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129224539.LOGT1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:45:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC92194.9050906@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:45:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Good Job Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mozilla sucked in my Netscape addresses easily and efficiently. It's going to take me a while to get totally comfortable with Mozilla. I don't like changing mail programs. But I've been worrying about how one of these days Netscape 4.7 might not be available anymore. So this is a good time to go on and change. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 16:53:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATMr1uO013834 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:53:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A605B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:52:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:52:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATMqVT06953 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:52:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATMqLiM015503 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:52:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:52:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5510305685.20031129165221@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Do I have to worry? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129173711.00b1a3c0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129173711.00b1a3c0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Probably not. Cats are reasonably careful about how they eat, so the bones > shouldn't be much of a problem. With the tendons/ligaments, if a cat can't > chew them up, they won't try to swallow them. Thank you. > A dog, on the other hand, tends to gulp its food in fairly large > chunks, which is why small, sharp bones (or for that matter, any > sort of fowl bones that they can cursh and splinter) can give them a > problem. Yup. Burl has some dog-like behaviors, but this isn't one of them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 17:32:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATNWvuO014437 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:32:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FE044@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:26 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATNWQT09112 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1c4.12621249 (14374) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:18 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c4.12621249.2cfa8681@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:32:17 EST Subject: DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're getting one, preferably one under $100; any suggestions? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 17:42:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATNguuO014583 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:42:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FE072@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:42:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:42:25 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATNgPT09649 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:42:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hATNgLYo000231 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:42:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:42:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > So Natalie, how do you treat yourself like a special person? Do > > you buy new cars? Do you take in strays? Do you buy an extra > > pair of Birkenstocks? Do you throw parties? Do you buy new > > computer things? Do you eat chocolate? Do you read trashy > > novels? > > Lots of ways, including most of the ones you named above. I'm not sure > about "trashy novels." It just occurred to me that I've always assumed > that meant trashy with steamy sex scenes, etc. I rarely read that kind > of novel. But I certainly enjoy reading what I call "junk books" -- > books without any literary merit. What just occurred to me is that > maybe that's what "trashy novels" means -- like appropriate for throwing > away. Other things I do are go on trips, have a membership in the > hospital gym so that I can go swimming, etc. etc. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > I didn't read novels for many years, stuck on non-fiction. Now I'm hitting novels again, and they don't need to be the finest . . just need to have a good plot that rivets me and a writing style that doesn't make me puke. I began the habit of reading every night before sleep. I prop up the pillows and if I'm tired I read one paragraph, maybe, but if I'm not tired I may read several chapters. It's amazing how many books one can read just by reading regularly. Right now I'm on one that fascinates me. It's over 800 pages and I chose it to see me through a couple of airports and plane trips and some cold autumn evenings. It is The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber. Don't know him, but he writes well and has such a novel approach. (Well, duh . .) The book talks to you in asides as it unfolds the story, and it is so clever you just want to elbow someone and smile. And the story goes on and on, now and then digressing to follow yet another character down the street and look into his life. I really should have saved this one for the beach, yet it's a grade above that. Too nice to get tanning oil smudges. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 17:54:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATNsHuO014760 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:54:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:47 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATNrkT10300 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129235341.GGP2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:53:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I began the > habit of reading every night before sleep. I prop up the My parents were read-in-bedders. My mother especially absolutely had to have a book in her hands when she went to bed. For some reason I have never been into that habit. I don't use the bed-side lamp at all, though I like knowing it's there. When I get ready to go to bed, I turn off the bedroom light, get in bed, and go to sleep. > Right now I'm on one that fascinates me. It's over 800 I'm enjoying _Indiana Gothic_, which I had thought I would read all of this week, but things kept interfering with my reading time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 17:54:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATNsTuO014763 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:54:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6068D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATNrxT10307 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:53:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hATNrpiM026737 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:53:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:53:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <121196555.20031129175351@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players In-Reply-To: <1c4.12621249.2cfa8681@aol.com> References: <1c4.12621249.2cfa8681@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > We're getting one, preferably one under $100; any suggestions? > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > A scavenger hunt? How horrible! > I don't believe in hunting scavengers. > -- Bubbles Walmart had them on sale for $29 yesterday. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 17:57:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hATNvouO014796 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:57:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6068D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:57:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:57:19 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hATNvJT10477 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:57:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031129235713.HCK2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:57:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9325B.6010204@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:57:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm enjoying _Indiana Gothic_, which I had thought I would read all of I'm fascinated by Mozilla. I wrote that title with _ and _ at its beginning and end, which is how it looks right now in the quoated part of this reply. But in the message itself, the whole title was underlined. It's like Mozilla knew that that was what I wanted to do with it. Mozilla is amazing. I still have no idea at all what made it start handling quotations in a more comely manner. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:07:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU07huO014919 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:07:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FE0CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:07:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:07:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU07DT11168 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:07:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAU06csb015492 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:06:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:07:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <913003651.20031129180708@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC9325B.6010204@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> <3FC9325B.6010204@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I'm enjoying _Indiana Gothic_, which I had thought I would read all of > I'm fascinated by Mozilla. I wrote that title with _ and _ at its > beginning and end, which is how it looks right now in the quoated part > of this reply. But in the message itself, the whole title was > underlined. It's like Mozilla knew that that was what I wanted to do > with it. Mozilla is amazing. I still have no idea at all what made it > start handling quotations in a more comely manner. HTML? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:18:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU0I0uO015038 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:18:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A606C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:17:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:17:30 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU0HUT11672 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:17:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130001724.BGR1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:17:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC93716.8010203@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:17:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> <3FC9325B.6010204@maynor.net> <913003651.20031129180708@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <913003651.20031129180708@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>I'm fascinated by Mozilla. I wrote that title with _ and _ at its >>beginning and end, which is how it looks right now in the quoated part >>of this reply. But in the message itself, the whole title was >>underlined. It's like Mozilla knew that that was what I wanted to do >>with it. Mozilla is amazing. I still have no idea at all what made it >>start handling quotations in a more comely manner. > > HTML? I told it no html. I don't write html into my e-mail. But I don't understand what you're saying that in response to. What would html have to do with the change from using ugly lines down the left when pulling in quotations to using > and >>? Or are you talking about why it would convert _ and _ into full underlining? I don't see how html would affect that either, even if I had told Mozilla that html was . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:25:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU0P1uO015163 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:25:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FE0C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:24:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:24:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU0OOT11970 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:24:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAU0Nnsb026390 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:23:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:24:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <313256288.20031129182423@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC93716.8010203@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> <3FC9325B.6010204@maynor.net> <913003651.20031129180708@WordWrite.com> <3FC93716.8010203@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>I'm fascinated by Mozilla. I wrote that title with _ and _ at its >>>beginning and end, which is how it looks right now in the quoated part >>>of this reply. But in the message itself, the whole title was >>>underlined. It's like Mozilla knew that that was what I wanted to do >>>with it. Mozilla is amazing. I still have no idea at all what made it >>>start handling quotations in a more comely manner. >> >> HTML? > I told it no html. I don't write html into my e-mail. But I don't > understand what you're saying that in response to. What would html have > to do with the change from using ugly lines down the left when pulling > in quotations to using > and >>? Or are you talking about why it would > convert _ and _ into full underlining? I don't see how html would > affect that either, even if I had told Mozilla that html was . There are often two buttons--one for writing HTML and one for reading posts as HTML. If one reads an HTML post, then often the mailer automatically replies in the same. I have no idea about Mozilla, of course, so I will shut up now. But what you're describing sounds to me like HTML is a factor. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU0X0uO015245 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:33:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A606CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:32:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:32:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU0WUT12409 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:32:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAU0WSW1027623 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:32:29 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAU0WSWq027595; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:32:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:34:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Old Fart wine In-Reply-To: <200311292017.hATKHX923081@Mercury5.npr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Terry and 'Al. We enjoyed it a lot. We still have Old Fart's Wife left. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:54:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU0stuO015589 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:54:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A60704@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:54:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:54:25 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU0sOT13511 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:54:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130005419.JSE1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:54:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC93FBC.3040704@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:54:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FC93186.4040808@maynor.net> <3FC9325B.6010204@maynor.net> <913003651.20031129180708@WordWrite.com> <3FC93716.8010203@maynor.net> <313256288.20031129182423@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <313256288.20031129182423@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > There are often two buttons--one for writing HTML and one for reading > posts as HTML. If one reads an HTML post, then often the mailer > automatically replies in the same. I have no idea about Mozilla, of > course, so I will shut up now. But what you're describing > sounds to me like HTML is a factor. Could be, but in all of the Mozilla settings, I've seen only two that mentioned html. I said no to "compose in html" and clicked "convert to plain text" for something else that mentioned html. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:57:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU0v2uO015620 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:57:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60701@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:56:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:56:31 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU0uVT13601 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:56:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130005626.KIN1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:56:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9403B.4070807@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:56:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Old Fart wine References: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Thanks, Terry and 'Al. We enjoyed it a lot. We still have Old Fart's Wife > left. What? Alan doesn't disapprove of French wine?? I've forgotten the name of Old Fart's wife now, though the liquor-store owner and I discussed it not all that long ago when I was buying some Old Fart. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 18:59:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU0xJuO015656 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:59:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A606F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:58:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:58:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU0wmT13730 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:58:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAU0wDsb023934 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:58:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:58:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <128575646.20031129185847@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Grrrrrr... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So I installed PCI card with USB slots... And now my computer doesn't recognize my Rio. Even when I provide it with drivers. Any ideas? (I've rebooted at least 10 times already.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 19:23:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU1NYuO016034 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:23:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60734@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:23:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:23:03 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU1N2T15019 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:23:03 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAU1MPpe024434 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:22:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FC9460B.5070905@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:21:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Right now I'm on one that fascinates me. It's over 800 > pages and I chose it to see me through a couple of airports > and plane trips and some cold autumn evenings. It is > The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber. > Don't know him, but he writes well and has such a novel > approach. (Well, duh . .) The book talks to you in asides as > it unfolds the story, and it is so clever you just want to elbow > someone and smile. And the story goes on and on, now and then > digressing to follow yet another character down the street > and look into his life. I have this on my TBR stack (which is on my bedside table -- I read in bed sometimes). I'm going to leave it until this spring, I think, because I'm a little tired of that time period at the moment. My current book is a collection of essays called "The Verb To Bird." -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 19:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU1UwuO016138 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:30:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6074C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:30:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:30:27 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU1URT15553 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:30:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-114.gwi.net [216.195.150.114]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAU1UOAt034949; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:30:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129203006.00b5aa20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:30:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: DVD Players In-Reply-To: <1c4.12621249.2cfa8681@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:32 PM 11/29/2003 -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >We're getting one, preferably one under $100; any suggestions? progressive scan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:23:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2NSuO016853 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:23:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FE1EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:22:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:22:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2MvT18671 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:22:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.11.1d72fd20 (4446) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:22:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11.1d72fd20.2cfaae76@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:22:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 7:30:37 PM Central Standard Time, cwv@GWI.NET writes: << progressive scan >> sounds good! any models you prefer? \ Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2amuO017144 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:36:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A607F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:17 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2aGT19525 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.138.28863a66 (4446) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:35:55 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <138.28863a66.2cfab18b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:35:55 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 5:54:23 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Walmart had them on sale for $29 yesterday. >> I had to work; I miss all the sales. I heard about a woman who got knocked out at a Walmart while trying to get one of those DVD players. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:37:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2bRuO017150 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:37:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A607F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2QtT18894 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:26:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAU2PodI012646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:25:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC91A1F.90201@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <3FC91A1F.90201@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Huh? When have I declared prayers anathema? I don't keep a datebook on our threads. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2bXuO017155 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:37:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A607FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2b1T19579 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.166.28fb02f6 (4446) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <166.28fb02f6.2cfab1c6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:36:54 EST Subject: Walmart To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Woman Knocked Unconscious While Shopping AP Patty VanLester of Orange City ORANGE CITY, Fla. (Nov. 29) - A mob of shoppers rushing for a sale on DVD players trampled the first woman in line and knocked her unconscious as they scrambled for the shelves at a Wal-Mart Supercenter. Patricia VanLester had her eye on a $29 DVD player, but when the siren blared at 6 a.m. Friday announcing the start to the post-Thanksgiving sale, the 41-year-old was knocked to the ground by the frenzy of shoppers behind her. ''She got pushed down, and they walked over her like a herd of elephants,'' said VanLester's sister, Linda Ellzey. ''I told them, 'Stop stepping on my sister! She's on the ground!''' Ellzey said some shoppers tried to help VanLester, and one employee helped Ellzey reach her sister, but most people just continued their rush for deals. ''All they cared about was a stupid DVD player,'' she said Saturday. Paramedics called to the store found VanLester unconscious on top of a DVD player, surrounded by shoppers seemingly oblivious to her, said Mark O'Keefe, a spokesman for EVAC Ambulance. She was flown to Halifax Medical Center in Daytona Beach, where doctors told the family VanLester had a seizure after she was knocked down and would likely remain hospitalized through the weekend, Ellzey said. Hospital officials said Saturday they did not have any information on her condition. ''She's all black and blue,'' Ellzey said. ''Patty doesn't remember anything. She still can't believe it all happened.'' Ellzey said Wal-Mart officials called later Friday to ask about her sister, and the store apologized and offered to put a DVD player on hold for her. Wal-Mart Stores spokeswoman Karen Burk said she had never heard of a such a melee during a sale. ''We are very disappointed this happened,'' Burk said. ''We want her to come back as a shopper.'' 11/29/03 10:26 EST Copyright 2003 The Associated Press. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:39:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2dVuO017192 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:39:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A607F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:39:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:39:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2T0T19066 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:29:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAU2RudI012908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:27:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:28:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC91AFB.3070503@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <933326742.20031129160009@WordWrite.com> <3FC91AFB.3070503@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >the week before xmas. I very definitely celebrate xmas. I have not >particularly cared for xmas day itself since childhood, though. All the >fun things are over by the 25th. Oh, Natalie, the things you miss. There are 12 days of Christmas - they start at or about midnight on the 24th - as I have said before. I love the Christmas season - though I could do without some of the stuff that precedes Christmas. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:49:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2nruO017352 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:49:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FE230@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:49:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:49:21 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2nLT20177 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:49:21 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031130024913014007c9n1e>; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:49:13 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184236.04745510@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:52:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Grrrrrr... In-Reply-To: <128575646.20031129185847@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >So I installed PCI card with USB slots... And now my computer doesn't >recognize my Rio. Even when I provide it with drivers. Any ideas? >(I've rebooted at least 10 times already.) Proceed at your own risk, of course, but you might try removing old drivers in Add/Remove Hardware, or System/Device Manager, or by running msconfig. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:52:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2q8uO017398 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:52:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FE202@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:51:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:51:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2paT20306 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:51:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAU2p0sb008936 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:51:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:51:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1719263855.20031129205134@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Walmart In-Reply-To: <166.28fb02f6.2cfab1c6@aol.com> References: <166.28fb02f6.2cfab1c6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Paramedics called to the store found VanLester unconscious on top of a DVD > player, surrounded by shoppers seemingly oblivious to her, said Mark O'Keefe, > a > spokesman for EVAC Ambulance. Well, at least she got one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:55:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2tsuO017464 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:55:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FE208@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:55:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:55:22 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2tMT20480 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:55:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAU2tIYo015363 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:55:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000f01c3b6ed$77a34900$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <138.28863a66.2cfab18b@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re: DVD Players Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:55:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a message dated 11/29/2003 5:54:23 PM Central Standard Time, > Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > << > Walmart had them on sale for $29 yesterday. > >> > > I had to work; I miss all the sales. > > I heard about a woman who got knocked out at a > Walmart while trying to get one of those DVD players. > I heard that in our Wal-Mart store yesterday two women got into a fight over a Care Bear and in the process fell into and crashed a large display of boomboxes. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 20:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU2xNuO017485 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6081F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:52 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU2wpT20631 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:51 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003113002584501500qui2ae> (Authid: adamh1); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:58:45 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200311281322.hASDMKZ22642@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Among your S&B companions, you have conclusive proof. I, for > instance, don't > listen to NPR radio. Nor do I. I can't abide it. It sets me on edge. And I don't consider myself a conservative. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:04:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU34FuO017645 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:04:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:03:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU33hT21115 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:03:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAU335sb022159 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:03:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:03:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <869862807.20031129210340@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Grrrrrr... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184236.04745510@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184236.04745510@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 29, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Proceed at your own risk, of course, but you might try removing old drivers > in Add/Remove Hardware, or System/Device Manager, There don't seem to *be* any old drivers. > or by running msconfig. Done. Still don't work. I wish I knew why it didn't recognize the drivers I downloaded. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3EeuO017791 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:14:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6084E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:14:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:14:08 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU3E8T21782 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:14:08 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:03 PST Message-ID: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:14:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: DVD Players To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000f01c3b6ed$77a34900$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I heard that in our Wal-Mart store yesterday > two women got into a fight over a Care Bear > and in the process fell into and crashed a > large display of boomboxes. OT - While you were in FL, I heard that at least one of those punks(Sandoval) who robbed the bank and killed those Innocent folks, had been convicted. May have been more than one of them. I immediately thought you would be glad to hear it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3WpuO018067 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:32:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6085E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3WJT23155 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:32:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130033049.XNXO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:30:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9646A.70807@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:30:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <3FC91A1F.90201@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>Huh? When have I declared prayers anathema? > > I don't keep a datebook on our threads. You should take notes if you're going to make accusations. I can't imagine declaring prayers anathema. (I can, of course, imagine laughing at the idea of needing in how to pray, which is perhaps what you are alluding to.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:34:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3YkuO018095 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:34:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:34:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:34:14 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3YET23257 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:34:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130033409.XONX1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:34:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC96532.3080506@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:34:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <933326742.20031129160009@WordWrite.com> <3FC91AFB.3070503@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>the week before xmas. I very definitely celebrate xmas. I have not >>particularly cared for xmas day itself since childhood, though. All the >>fun things are over by the 25th. > > Oh, Natalie, the things you miss. There are 12 days of Christmas - they So you've told us before. For me xmas is from the fourth Thursday in November until approximately December 24. > start at or about midnight on the 24th - as I have said before. I love the > Christmas season - though I could do without some of the stuff that > precedes Christmas. The things you miss! You're missing the best part. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:37:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3bCuO018158 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:37:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60866@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:36:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:36:41 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU3afT23367 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:36:41 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:36:35 PST Message-ID: <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: New Coach? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, have you heard any definite news about your new coach - possibly Sylvester Croom? Last item I heard was that he had not replied to the invitation to move to MSU. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:39:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3dluO018235 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:39:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FE2A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:39:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:39:10 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3dAT23525 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:39:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130033905.XPLI1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:39:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9665A.10003@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:39:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: <138.28863a66.2cfab18b@aol.com> <000f01c3b6ed$77a34900$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000f01c3b6ed$77a34900$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I heard that in our Wal-Mart store yesterday > two women got into a fight over a Care Bear > and in the process fell into and crashed a > large display of boomboxes. I am happy to report that during my bell-ringing stints yesterday I saw nary a wounded customer walking out. Hmm. Maybe that's because they weren't able to. But I didn't see any paramedics rushing in either. And when I was in Walmart this afternoon, all seemed fine. I'm more and more impressed by Walmart, btw. I think I mentioned before that ours now has wasabi peas and miso soup. I noticed today that they have those Jewish candles that love,judith and I looked for here when she was visiting and needed to find one to honor her father's memory. They even have Pad Thai makings in a package. Wmart is definitely the best grocery store in this town. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:41:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3fvuO018266 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:41:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60887@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:41:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:41:26 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3fPT23647 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:41:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130034120.XPWL1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC966E1.70904@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:41:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Among your S&B companions, you have conclusive proof. I, for >>instance, don't >>listen to NPR radio. > > Nor do I. I can't abide it. It sets me on edge. And I don't consider myself > a conservative. Why does it set you on edge? I've never thought of it (until this discussion) as having a political bent. I think of it as having mostly good music with some good news segments and occasional other good talk stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:45:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3jquO018337 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:45:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FE2B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:45:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:45:20 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3jKT23935 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:45:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130034514.XQOE1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:45:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC967CB.6040903@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:45:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > OT - While you were in FL, I heard that at least one I kept staring at this, trying to remember what I said to remind me to tell Doris when she returned. I am disappointed in Wordslers for failing me! But I finally remembered that what it was was that I did business with Omaha Steaks -- ordered a gift certificate to give my niece for xmas. And speaking of xmas -- another thing I like about it is shopping for gifts. It's fun to try to think of the right gifts. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3nBuO018366 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:49:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A608B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:48:39 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3mdT24120 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:48:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130034834.XRER1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC96893.6070407@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:48:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Coach? References: <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Natalie, have you heard any definite news about your > new coach - possibly Sylvester Croom? Last item I > heard was that he had not replied to the invitation to > move to MSU. No, I haven't heard anything. The name Croom sounds familiar. Is he an assistant coach for a pro team? I remember reading something a few days ago about a very likely candidate who was an assistant coach for some pro team and who was unavailable for comment at the time because his team was playing in Detroit(?) this weekend. Does Croom coach for a team that might have been playing in somewhere like Detroit this weekend? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:49:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3nYuO018371 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:49:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6089B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:49:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:49:03 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU3n3T24148 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:49:03 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:48:57 PST Message-ID: <20031130034857.47227.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: DVD Players To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC967CB.6040903@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > OT - While you were in FL, I heard that at least > one > > I kept staring at this, trying to remember what I > said to remind me to > tell Doris when she returned. I am disappointed in > Wordslers for > failing me! But I finally remembered that what it > was was that I did > business with Omaha Steaks -- ordered a gift > certificate to give my > niece for xmas. > > And speaking of xmas -- another thing I like about > it is shopping for > gifts. It's fun to try to think of the right gifts. Just heard news flash - U of Nebraska has fired their head fb coach. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:52:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3qauO018390 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:52:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FE2E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:52:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:52:04 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU3q4T24428 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:52:04 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:51:58 PST Message-ID: <20031130035158.30578.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:51:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Coach? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC96893.6070407@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > No, I haven't heard anything. The name Croom sounds > familiar. Is he an > assistant coach for a pro team? I remember reading > something a few days > ago about a very likely candidate who was an > assistant coach for some > pro team and who was unavailable for comment at the > time because his > team was playing in Detroit(?) this weekend. Does > Croom coach for a > team that might have been playing in somewhere like > Detroit this weekend? Yes. He was quite a star at AL years back. If hired, he would be the first African American coaching in the SEC (Div. 1). I don't know much about his character, but he was highly regarded in his playing days. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:55:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3t0uO018399 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:55:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A608CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:54:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:54:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3sST24529 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:54:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130035423.XSLO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:54:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC969F0.3060302@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:54:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: <20031130034857.47227.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130034857.47227.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Just heard news flash - U of Nebraska has fired their > head fb coach. Hmm. Maybe he needs a job and will come here. Does he know how to castrate bulls? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3v0uO018416 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:57:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A608E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:27 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU3uRT24687 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:27 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:56:22 PST Message-ID: <20031130035622.48388.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:56:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: DVD Players To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC969F0.3060302@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Hmm. Maybe he needs a job and will come here. Does > he know how to > castrate bulls? How tough could it be to learn, if it leads to a new job? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:57:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3vIuO018422 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:57:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A608D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:46 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3ukT24705 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130035641.XSXY1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:56:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC96A7A.1090407@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:56:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Coach? References: <20031130035158.30578.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130035158.30578.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>team was playing in Detroit(?) this weekend. Does >>Croom coach for a >>team that might have been playing in somewhere like >>Detroit this weekend? > > Yes. He was quite a star at AL years back. If hired, > he would be the first African American coaching in the > SEC (Div. 1). I don't know much about > his character, but he was highly regarded in his > playing days. So he is the one I read about -- as in the pro team he's an assistant coach for is playing somewhere like Detroit this weekend? Is he a good coach? Good players aren't always good coaches. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:59:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3xauO018454 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:59:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6091F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:59:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:59:04 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU3x3T24979 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:59:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130035858.XTIE1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:58:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC96B03.1040106@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:58:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: <20031130035622.48388.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130035622.48388.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>Hmm. Maybe he needs a job and will come here. Does >>he know how to >>castrate bulls? > > How tough could it be to learn, if it leads to a new job? And surely in Nebraska he learned about things like bulls and steers. Also, Jackie Sherrill's bull-castration supposedly didn't involve his own hands. A vet school surgeon is said to have done it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 21:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU3xuuO018458 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:59:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6091B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:59:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:59:24 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU3xOT25011 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:59:24 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:59:19 PST Message-ID: <20031130035919.54748.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:59:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: New Coach? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC96A7A.1090407@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > So he is the one I read about -- as in the pro team > he's an assistant > coach for is playing somewhere like Detroit this > weekend? Is he a good > coach? Good players aren't always good coaches. Yes, that's got to be him. And yes, AL has had its share of players who did not make good coaches. It remains to be seen with Mr. Croom. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 23:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU5hwuO019105 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:43:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60AE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:21:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:21:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU4LKT26943 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:21:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAU4LGYo002695 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:21:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000901c3b6f9$79ea0e40$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031130034857.47227.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: DVD Players Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:21:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Just heard news flash - U of Nebraska has fired their > head fb coach. Well, that prompted me to turn on the news, and it was reported although not yet verified. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 23:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU5hwuO019106 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:43:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60B0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:04 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU4a4T27826 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.244.170]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130040127.XTWZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC96B98.4060909@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:01:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hey, Pete Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm feeling more and more comfortable with Mozilla -- and I am not one to adapt easily to new ways. So this is another thank-you. And now I am going to turn off the computer and look forward to an interesting dream life. I love going to bed at night because dreams are fun and because it will then be morning, my favorite time of day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 23:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU5hwuO019107 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:43:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60B0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:47 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU4alT27864 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:47 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003113004364101500quhtne> (Authid: adamh1); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 04:36:41 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:36:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FC966E1.70904@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>listen to NPR radio. > > > > Nor do I. I can't abide it. It sets me on edge. And I don't > consider myself > > a conservative. > > Why does it set you on edge? I don't know. It's like nails on a blackboard. I'm talking about the news, commentary, and other spoken-word stuff like PHC. The classical music I like just fine. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 23:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU5hwuO019109 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:43:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60B1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:45:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU4jwT28592 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:45:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAU4jNsb022428 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:45:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:45:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1715196397.20031129224558@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: NPR In-Reply-To: <20031130044130.96235.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031130044130.96235.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I really like Nina Totenberg's Supreme Court coverage. She is good at contextualizing complex issues. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 23:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU5hwuO019108 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:43:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60B0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:41:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:41:36 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAU4faT28197 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:41:36 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:41:30 PST Message-ID: <20031130044130.96235.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:41:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > I'm talking about the news, commentary, and other > spoken-word stuff like > PHC. The classical music I like just fine. The one that gets under my skin is Bob Edwards. I think Doris has noted before that he can't keep his bias out of his voice. He gets away with editorializing, as well. But I guess a lot of newscasters do. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 29 23:50:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU5oGuO019235 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:50:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60C89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 0:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:49:43 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU5ngT03434 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:49:42 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAU5ncYo026043 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:49:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b705$d251c6c0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC967CB.6040903@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: DVD Players Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 23:50:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > OT - While you were in FL, I heard that at least one > > I kept staring at this, trying to remember what I said to remind me to > tell Doris when she returned. I am disappointed in Wordslers for > failing me! But I finally remembered that what it was was that I did > business with Omaha Steaks -- ordered a gift certificate to give my > niece for xmas. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I've never had an Omaha steak. I know that a lot of people enjoy them. But they are sure expensive. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 00:38:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU6cjuO020093 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:38:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60D00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 1:38:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:38:12 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU6cCT06385 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:38:12 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAU4JqYo028602 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:20:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b6f9$56b01c80$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: DVD Players Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:20:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > OT - While you were in FL, I heard that at least one > of those punks(Sandoval) who robbed the bank and > killed those Innocent folks, had been convicted. May > have been more than one of them. I immediately > thought you would be glad to hear it. > Thanks. I missed the outcome of that trial, although it was predictable. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 00:54:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU6sxuO020285 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:54:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60D1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 1:54:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:54:26 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU6sQT07256 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:54:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18f.22d948dc (2519) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:54:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <18f.22d948dc.2cfaee16@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:54:14 EST Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 2:17:05 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >I did think that if you wanted to very much, there might be a way to use >a >needle stuck in place so it couldn't move. But it would be, as I said, >more work than I would want to do. >------------------ I've done it because I wanted to find out if it was possible, and it is; but as you said, more work than it's worth. Today I spend a long time threading a needle. But I too am an independent woman, and don't know the meaning of "no"! :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 01:10:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU7AmuO020488 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:10:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60DBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 2:10:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:10:15 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU7AFT09824 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:10:15 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15d.28bb937e (2519) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:10:07 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <15d.28bb937e.2cfaf1cf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:10:07 EST Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 3:34:20 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >There's >something infantile about 'making yourself feel special.' > My goodness. You don't set the table with your best table cloth, and use your very best silver? Surely you only drink from your most expensive crystal? Shame on you!Theo :-} From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 01:22:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU7MuuO020687 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:22:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A60DDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 2:22:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:22:22 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU7MMT10520 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:22:22 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.182.23e97c64 (2519) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:22:13 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <182.23e97c64.2cfaf4a5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:22:13 EST Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/29/2003 4:00:41 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >I don't know how one has xmas, but one has Christmas by celebrating >it. > Is it done the same as when you "celebrate" black Friday? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 01:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAU7veuO021195 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:57:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A60E3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 2:57:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:57:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAU7v6T12523 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:57:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAU7v5kF031458 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:57:05 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAU7v4Ua031456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:57:04 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:57:04 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players Message-ID: <20031130075704.GA31432@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1c4.12621249.2cfa8681@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1c4.12621249.2cfa8681@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan: = We're getting one, preferably one under $100; any suggestions? = Have a look at http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers.php. Even if all you're going to play is rented and store bought region 1 dvds, if the model you are considering buying is a dud, it will tell you so. Our first player worked great for about a month, and then started hiccoughing on the slightest of scratches. It was up there on the site and everyone was having pretty much the same problem. When we were in the market to get a new one, we actually went around, wrote down all the models we were interested in and typed them in (and this time we wanted something with well know hacks so it would play discs from any region). Of course they're always changing model numbers, so you have to find something that's not too new. A bunch of the players we were interested in weren't up on that site at all. From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:21:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDLGuO025225 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:21:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FE9F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:20:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:20:26 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDAQT30909 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:10:26 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUD9LdI002974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:09:22 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:10:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FC9646A.70807@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <3FC91A1F.90201@maynor.net> <3FC9646A.70807@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >You should take notes if you're going to make accusations. I can't >imagine declaring prayers anathema. (I can, of course, imagine laughing >at the idea of needing in how to pray, which is perhaps >what you are alluding to.) Since I did not state that you declared prayers anathema, I feel no need to add details. You are the one who said that. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:24:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDOvuO025254 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:24:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61044@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:24:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDELT31111 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:14:21 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUDDHdI003384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:13:17 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:14:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players In-Reply-To: <000801c3b705$d251c6c0$dbcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC967CB.6040903@maynor.net> <000801c3b705$d251c6c0$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >I've never had an Omaha steak. I know >that a lot of people enjoy them. But they >are sure expensive. Actually they are not - if you get a special package with free shipping/handling etc. Prices compare very favorably with those of the best beef in Knoxville. But I am about to switch to organic beef. I eat little beef, and I am about to limit it to organic - when I am cooking. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:31:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDVMuO025339 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:31:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6103A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:30:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:30:46 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDUjT31843 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:30:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-136.gwi.net [216.195.150.136]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUDUhAr056651 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:30:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130082848.00b37ed0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:30:59 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Acadiafest pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At the end of this email are the URLs for the sites where four people put up Acadiafest pictures. Why is it that only my site still works? Did the rest of you take down your sites? I've had a total of 1266 hits on my site with 21 new ones this week. I wonder who keeps looking at them. Bonnie: http://community.webshots.com/album/79515926MHrbZe Adam: http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=32360 Betty: http://betty9901.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=32392 Natalie: http://maynor.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=33541 bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDbtuO025399 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61041@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:37:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:37:19 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDbJT32204 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:37:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130133714.MIUO1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:37:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9F28B.4030707@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:37:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: <20031130031403.41043.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FC967CB.6040903@maynor.net> <000801c3b705$d251c6c0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000801c3b705$d251c6c0$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I've never had an Omaha steak. I know > that a lot of people enjoy them. But they > are sure expensive. I received some as gifts a couple of times and mainly remember being interested in the dry ice or whatever it was that they were shipped in. I vaguely remember that the steaks were good also, though I don't have a very clear memory -- it was a long time ago -- and am not a good judge of dead cow anyway. The only strong memory I have of eating steak that I truly did think was wonderful was in Japan. (It was ordered by somebody else who had arranged in advance the various courses of some kind of fancy restuarant meal. The steak arrived at some point after the things like sashimi, and I was amazed at how good it was -- didn't taste like any dead animal I'd ever encountered before.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:39:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDdCuO025425 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:39:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61057@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:38:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:38:36 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDcZT32269 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:38:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130133830.MJAD1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:38:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9F2D7.4040608@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:38:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128230509.033797a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129083530.00b8e4a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FC8AB12.FA79FF31@maynor.net> <745917477.20031129095343@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C16F.4070009@maynor.net> <1802347085.20031129100200@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C68A.8010808@maynor.net> <1069269492.20031129103841@WordWrite.com> <3FC8CE52.C6D97F37@maynor.net> <97111315.20031129131637@WordWrite.com> <3FC8F184.5050900@maynor.net> <1048493606.20031129140203@WordWrite.com> <3FC9131D.3000701@maynor.net> <3FC91A1F.90201@maynor.net> <3FC9646A.70807@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>You should take notes if you're going to make accusations. I can't >>imagine declaring prayers anathema. (I can, of course, imagine laughing >>at the idea of needing in how to pray, which is perhaps >>what you are alluding to.) > > Since I did not state that you declared prayers anathema, I feel no need > to add details. You are the one who said that. You are sounding like Dubya and Karen. Hmmmm. Maybe it's a Texas thing. All three of you have Texas connections. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:41:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDfMuO025456 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:41:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61048@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:40:46 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDejT32364 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:40:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130134040.MJKG1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:40:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9F359.5080401@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:40:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Acadiafest pictures References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130082848.00b37ed0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130082848.00b37ed0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > At the end of this email are the URLs for the sites where four people put > up Acadiafest pictures. Why is it that only my site still works? Did the > rest of you take down your sites? I've had a total of 1266 hits on my site > with 21 new ones this week. I wonder who keeps looking at them. ? I just clicked on mine below and found that it worked fine. > > > Bonnie: > http://community.webshots.com/album/79515926MHrbZe > > > > Adam: > http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=32360 > > > > Betty: > http://betty9901.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=32392 > > > > Natalie: > http://maynor.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=33541 > > > > > > bonnie > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:50:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDoVuO025563 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:50:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61069@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:49:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:49:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDdsT32311 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:39:54 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUDcodI006439 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:38:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:39:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Advent 1 2003 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I enjoy all twelve days of Christmas. I also enjoy and observe the preceding four weeks of Advent. Advent is, of course, the period of preparation for Christmas: "The period including the four Sundays before Christmas. Advent Sunday, the first Sunday in the season of Advent, being always the nearest Sunday to the feast of St. Andrew (Nov. 30)." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 07:51:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUDpHuO025573 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:51:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61052@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:50:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:50:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDefT32359 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:40:41 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUDdbdI006535 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:39:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:40:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Chomsky Interview in The Guardian Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There is an interesting story about Noam Chomsky in today's Guardian (no registration req'd): http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/politicsphilosophyandsociety/ story/0,6000,1096132,00.html (all that has to go on one line) I don't know how long current stories stay online. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUE0XuO025676 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:00:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61074@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 8:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:59:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUDxvT00878 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:59:57 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUDxtGn058906 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:59:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130085947.00b39a50@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:00:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Acadiafest pictures In-Reply-To: <3FC9F359.5080401@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130082848.00b37ed0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031130082848.00b37ed0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU wow. sure enough. so does Adam's work today!! >? I just clicked on mine below and found that it worked fine. >> >> >>Bonnie: >>http://community.webshots.com/album/79515926MHrbZe >> >> >> >>Adam: >>http://adamhartfield1937.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=32360 >> >> >> >>Betty: >>http://betty9901.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=32392 >> >> >> >>Natalie: >>http://maynor.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=33541 >> >> >> >> >> >>bonnie > > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:05:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUE5LuO025710 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:05:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61087@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:04:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:04:45 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUE4jT01201 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:04:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUE4fAt063314; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:04:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130085258.00b1a620@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:01:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: New Coach? In-Reply-To: <3FC96893.6070407@maynor.net> References: <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:48 PM 11/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >>Natalie, have you heard any definite news about your >>new coach - possibly Sylvester Croom? Last item I >>heard was that he had not replied to the invitation to >>move to MSU. > >No, I haven't heard anything. The name Croom sounds familiar. Is he an >assistant coach for a pro team? Croom played college ball at Alabama, then played in the pros. He an assistant coach in the NFL. Last year he was considered for the Alabama coaching job, which went to a much lesser experienced person. I'm sure that if he wishes, he could be considered for any number of college head-coach jobs this year (Nebraska also is looking). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:07:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUE7euO025732 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:07:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61095@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:07:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:07:04 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUE74T01370 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:07:04 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUE6xGp059957; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:07:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130090628.00b361d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:06:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: DVD Players In-Reply-To: <000901c3b6f9$79ea0e40$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <20031130034857.47227.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:21 PM 11/29/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > Just heard news flash - U of Nebraska has fired their > > head fb coach. > >Well, that prompted me to turn on the news, >and it was reported although not yet verified. http://tinyurl.com/x2zs cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:32:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEW9uO025985 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:32:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A610B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:31:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:31:33 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEVXT02918 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:31:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130143128.ROJW1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:31:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9FF41.4030706@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:31:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Chomsky Interview in The Guardian References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > There is an interesting story about Noam Chomsky in today's Guardian (no > registration req'd): > > http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/politicsphilosophyandsociety/ > story/0,6000,1096132,00.html Thanks. I just blogged it. > I don't know how long current stories stay online. A long time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:32:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEWGuO025988 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:32:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A610BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:31:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:31:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f41.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEVdT02928 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:31:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:31:34 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.253 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:31:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.253] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: USB ports? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:31:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 14:31:34.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[A78CCAE0:01C3B74E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Both women >knit in the continental style, with the thread held taut on the "full" >needle, and essentially only one needle that moves a lot. That's the way I learned to knit - I haven't seen anyone knit here and don't know the "other" way. Where does one find knitters? I'm curious and want to see the American way of knitting. _________________________________________________________________ >From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you’ll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEYGuO026043 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:34:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FEA71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:33:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:33:39 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEXdT03006 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:33:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130143334.ROTR1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC9FFBF.6070907@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:33:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New Coach? References: <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <20031130033635.27870.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031130085258.00b1a620@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130085258.00b1a620@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > I'm sure > that if he wishes, he could be considered for any number of college > head-coach jobs this year (Nebraska also is looking). That bodes ill for us. It has been said, btw, that an announcement of our new coach was likely to be made this weekend. The weekend is waning. There was no announcement in today's local papers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:37:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEbAuO026090 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:37:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A610C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:36:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:36:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEaYT03192 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:36:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUEaWAr070652 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:36:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130093626.00b96aa8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:36:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That's the way I learned to knit - I haven't seen anyone knit here >and don't know the "other" way. Where does one find knitters? >I'm curious and want to see the American way of knitting. --Rashmi Come on up and visit me!! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:49:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEnYuO026242 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:49:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A610DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:48:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEmwT03846 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:48:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUEmsUh016678 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:48:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:48:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <499039727.20031130084857@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Both women >>knit in the continental style, with the thread held taut on the "full" >>needle, and essentially only one needle that moves a lot. > That's the way I learned to knit - I haven't seen anyone knit here > and don't know the "other" way. English knitting--that's how I knit. > Where does one find knitters? > I'm curious and want to see the American way of knitting. Ask at a yarn shop, or on your local .general newsgroup; that's how I found out about the Friday one, and that sucked me into the Monday one. There are 3 groups I know of in Austin. They meet Monday night, Wednesday night, and Friday afternoon. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:50:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEo9uO026258 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:50:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FEA89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:49:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:49:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEnWT03985 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:49:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUEnTiM003461 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:49:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:49:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <556446442.20031130084933@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130093626.00b96aa8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130093626.00b96aa8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>That's the way I learned to knit - I haven't seen anyone knit here >>and don't know the "other" way. Where does one find knitters? >>I'm curious and want to see the American way of knitting. --Rashmi > Come on up and visit me!! Says the recluse!:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:50:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEomuO026291 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:50:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FEA95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:50:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:50:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f68.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEoBT04251 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:50:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 06:50:06 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.253 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:50:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.253] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: USB ports? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:50:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 14:50:06.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E4AF680:01C3B751] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bonnie: > >That's the way I learned to knit - I haven't seen anyone knit here > >and don't know the "other" way. Where does one find knitters? > >I'm curious and want to see the American way of knitting. --Rashmi >Come on up and visit me!! Don't tempt me, bonniev! I would so love to see Acadia and Maine in the bleak winter sun... Next time I visit we'll have to arrange a knitting demo. (Don't know if I've told this story before. I only learned to knot because I failed every "crafts" class in high school and the good nuns insisted I complete at least one project. After a series of projects that went nowhere I tried knitting and ended up liking it. Haven't made anything since then, though.) -rashmi, still hate crafts projects _________________________________________________________________ Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:52:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEqwuO026304 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:52:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FEA9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:52:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:52:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEqLT04530 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:52:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUEqJiM005028 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:52:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:52:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <41902775.20031130085223@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hey, Bethany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you see this on LINGUIST? Karen Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:00:05 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Adams Subject: Seeking Grammar Consultant I'm a lawyer looking for a linguist/grammarian to review, for a fee to be negotiated, parts of the manuscript of my forthcoming book ''A Manual of Style for Contract Drafting,'' to be published by the American Bar Association in 2004. The areas to be reviewed address linguistics topics such as syntactic ambiguity, the semantic ambiguity of plural nouns and ''and,'' ''or,'' ''every,'' and ''each,'' and verb use in different contexts. I anticipate a total of 10 to 20 hours of work during December and January. Thanks, Ken Adams From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:53:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUErluO026321 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:53:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FEA97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:53:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:53:04 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEr4T04667 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:53:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130145258.COXP1873.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA044C.3050308@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:53:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Football Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why is interviewing football coach candidates so ? I just read an article in today's Starkville Daily News that was reporting on the current rumors. The main rumor is that the job has been offered to Croom and that we're now waiting for him to say yes or no. It went on to say that the Clarion-Ledger in Jackson confirmed that a plane leased by MSU flew to Green Bay Friday afternoon and returned to Starkville that night. Somehow I find this all hilarious -- newspapers checking flight records, etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 08:57:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUEvRuO026373 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:57:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61102@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:56:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:56:50 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUEuoT05038 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:56:50 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FEA71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 9:56:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200311301456.hAUEuoT05038@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:56:50 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:55:52 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> In a message dated 11/29/2003 5:54:23 PM Central Standard Time, >> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >> << >> Walmart had them on sale for $29 yesterday. >> >> >> >> I had to work; I miss all the sales. >> >> I heard about a woman who got knocked out at a >> Walmart while trying to get one of those DVD players. >> > >I heard that in our Wal-Mart store yesterday >two women got into a fight over a Care Bear >and in the process fell into and crashed a >large display of boomboxes. > > - D. M. My daughter was marveling over the return of Care Bears. In other seasonal news, people died on the roads in Syracuse yesterday in weather-related accidents, and a hunter died from shotgun wounds as well. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 09:01:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUF1AuO026426 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:01:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FEA7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:00:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:00:33 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUF0XT05577 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:00:33 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUF0SAr077243 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:00:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130095655.00b99e38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:00:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Come on up and visit me!! > >Don't tempt me, bonniev! I would so love to see Acadia and >Maine in the bleak winter sun... Tempt, tempt, tempt. I'm hiking with April this afternoon. We are doing a four mile loop on Norumbega Mountain. I've never hiked there before. You could hike with us and then on Tuesday you could play Scrabble with us and then on Wednesday you come to stitch'n'bitch although there are only two of us that knit. Two others do needlepoint. The fifth does odd things like repair antique throws. Last week she spent two hours taking the seat off an antique chair in order to send it off and have the hole in the needlepoint repaired. Her great-grandmother possibly did the needlepoint herself. The chair is gorgeous. The insert in the back of the chair is a risque needlepoint. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 09:02:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUF2JuO026438 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:02:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61106@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:01:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:01:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUF1gT05739 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:01:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUF1dUh022501 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:01:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:01:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <744003004.20031130090119@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > -rashmi, still hate crafts projects I'm reading a book about knitting, and the author talks about it as an addiction, but later she says it's a luxury. I'm not sure about either of those. I quite sure that it's not an addiction for me, but it is something I like quite a lot. OTOH, I don't think it's a luxury for me, either. It's not exactly a necessity, but it allows me to express things that I would need some other outlet for if I didn't knit. I don't define myself as a knitter. One of the more interesting things for me is to see how people's attitudes express themselves in their knitting. This is something I wouldn't have been aware of if I hadn't started going to a large (10 people or so--but not the same 10 every time) knitting group. You can see who's adventurous, who's timid, who is too anal-retentive to live, who is too relaxed to ever accomplish much... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 09:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUF4puO026454 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6110E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:04:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:04:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUF4ET05888 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:04:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FEAB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:04:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200311301504.hAUF4ET05888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:04:14 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:49:33 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, November 30, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>That's the way I learned to knit - I haven't seen anyone knit here >>>and don't know the "other" way. Where does one find knitters? >>>I'm curious and want to see the American way of knitting. --Rashmi > >> Come on up and visit me!! > >Says the recluse!:) > >Karen Rashmi, the next time I visit my sister in DE, I'll stop in and demonstrate both ways of knitting - with both hands. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 09:08:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUF8UuO026516 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:08:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FEA88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:07:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:07:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUF7rT06145 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:07:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUF7oiM012837 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:07:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:07:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <204966148.20031130090754@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <200311301504.hAUF4ET05888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200311301504.hAUF4ET05888@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Rashmi, the next time I visit my sister in DE, I'll stop in and demonstrate > both ways of knitting - with both hands. You are going to drive me to drink--or permanently crossed eyes! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 09:11:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUFBWuO026562 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:11:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61107@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:10:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:10:55 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUFAtT06396 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:10:55 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAUFAqAt079317; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:10:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130100439.00b5ca08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:10:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Football In-Reply-To: <3FCA044C.3050308@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:53 AM 11/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Why is interviewing football coach candidates so ? I just >read an article in today's Starkville Daily News that was reporting on >the current rumors. The main rumor is that the job has been offered to >Croom and that we're now waiting for him to say yes or no. It went on >to say that the Clarion-Ledger in Jackson confirmed that a plane leased >by MSU flew to Green Bay Friday afternoon and returned to Starkville >that night. Somehow I find this all hilarious -- newspapers checking >flight records, etc. etc. Any number of reasons, among which are: ---they don't want to get caught. Sometimes, they are contacting another college coach who is under contract while their own coach may still be employed (see, e.g., the Auburn fiasco of a week ago or thereabouts). ---they don't want the public embarrassment of being rejected. ---they don't want the ante to be raised, i.e., they want to avoid a bidding war with another school. ---they want to be able to have dramatic, surprise news conferences. ---they are idiots. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 09:58:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUFwEuO027212 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:58:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6116D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 10:57:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:57:37 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAUFvaT09319 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:57:36 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:57:31 PST Message-ID: <20031130155731.13246.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 07:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC9F2D7.4040608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > You are sounding like Dubya and Karen. Hmmmm. > Maybe it's a Texas > thing. All three of you have Texas connections. This leads me to ask another dumb question. At some point in "threading", I made mention of the "fact" that Bethany had lived in Texas. She reacted with a "Huhh?", or something like that. Bethany, did you not live in San Antonio when you were teaching at Trinity? Just curious. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUG2KuO027291 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:02:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61191@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:01:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:01:43 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAUG1hT09538 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:01:43 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:01:38 PST Message-ID: <20031130160138.77709.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Acadiafest pictures To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FC9F359.5080401@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > ? I just clicked on mine below and found that it > worked fine. Works fine here, too. Thank you to bonniev for providing this info again. I have saved it this time. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:08:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUG80uO027325 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:08:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:07:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:07:23 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAUG7NT09837 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:07:23 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:07:17 PST Message-ID: <20031130160717.917.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:07:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: USB ports? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130093626.00b96aa8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > > Come on up and visit me!! The very first thought that occurred to me. And perhaps you could even partake of one of Dr. V's special meals. A nice little trip, informative and fortifying. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:13:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGDquO027476 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:13:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6119C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAUGDFT10114 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:13:09 PST Message-ID: <20031130161309.19964.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:13:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Football To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130100439.00b5ca08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Any number of reasons, among which are: > > ---they don't want to get caught. Sometimes, they > are contacting another > college coach who is under contract while their own > coach may still be > employed (see, e.g., the Auburn fiasco of a week ago > or thereabouts). > > ---they don't want the public embarrassment of being > rejected. > > ---they don't want the ante to be raised, i.e., they > want to avoid a > bidding war with another school. > > ---they want to be able to have dramatic, surprise > news conferences. > > ---they are idiots. > > cwvs conferences. > > ---they are idiots. > > cwv As expected, Dr. V. has the definitive answers. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:15:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGFSuO027544 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:15:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6118B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:14:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:14:51 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUGEoT10221 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:14:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130161445.NHZH1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:14:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA1776.90401@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:14:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Football References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130100439.00b5ca08@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130100439.00b5ca08@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > employed (see, e.g., the Auburn fiasco of a week ago or thereabouts). There's a column about that in today's Jackson paper -- the "what goes around comes around" aspect for the much-hated (in Mississippi) Turbeville. (I didn't pay any attention to the sins that made him hated here when that happened but am aware that he is considered bad, bad, bad -- that even here at MSU people cheer for our arch-rival, Ole Miss, when they play Auburn and that it has something to do with hating the coach.) http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/30/srick.html > ---they are idiots. Much of life is really funny, imho. I remember seeing Raven McDavid, a well-known linguist at the U of Chicago, rushing about in Columbia, SC, at a meeting years ago (obviously years ago -- he's been dead since the early '80s), carrying a pile of folders and talking about how they had been stolen by whichever university from whichever other university -- folders of linguistic atlas materials. I'm not describing it well at all. My point is that I remember sitting there being amused at how he was acting as if whatever was going on with those files was of major importance to people all over the world -- that it would probably be headlines the next morning. There is so very much to laugh about in life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:16:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGGLuO027557 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:16:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6119E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:15:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:15:44 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUGFiT10276 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:15:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130161539.NIEA1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA17AC.9010606@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:15:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031130155731.13246.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130155731.13246.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This leads me to ask another dumb question. At some > point in "threading", I made mention of the "fact" > that Bethany had lived in Texas. She reacted with a > "Huhh?", or something like that. > > Bethany, did you not live in San Antonio when you were > teaching at Trinity? Just curious. My association of Bethany with Texas has to do with her having been born there and grown up there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:24:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGO9uO027642 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:24:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A611BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:23:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:32 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUGNWT10801 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:32 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUGNWEF024640 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:32 -0500 Received: from [131.128.23.181] ([131.128.223.161]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUGNUK0012207 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:31 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:22:26 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Jim Bradley Subject: Attn: New Yorkers Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Food article in today's New York Times magazine is about Jimmy and The Red Cat. It includes 2 recipes--Salad with Gruyere and Sausage and Mushroom Risotto with Raisins. /Jim From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGOIuO027646 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:24:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A611A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:23:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:41 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hAUGNfT10816 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:23:41 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:23:36 PST Message-ID: <20031130162336.4960.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCA17AC.9010606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > My association of Bethany with Texas has to do with > her having been born > there and grown up there. Thank you. I'm learning. That's why I'm here. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGmmuO027954 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A611D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:48:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:48:11 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUGmAT12083 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:48:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAUGm6Yo005204 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000901c3b761$cfeafb20$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The Food article in today's New York Times magazine is about Jimmy > and The Red Cat. It includes 2 recipes--Salad with Gruyere and > Sausage and Mushroom Risotto with Raisins. > > /Jim Woo woo! Let's all meet for brunch. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 10:55:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUGt2uO028001 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:55:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A611D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 11:54:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:54:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUGsOT12432 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:54:24 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAUGsNkF032401 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:54:23 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAUGsMGB032399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:54:22 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:54:22 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Message-ID: <20031130165422.GA32383@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jim Bradley: = The Food article in today's New York Times magazine is about Jimmy = and The Red Cat. It includes 2 recipes--Salad with Gruyere and = Sausage and Mushroom Risotto with Raisins. = = /Jim http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/30/magazine/30FOOD.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 12:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUIOGuO029010 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 12:53:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:53:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUHhYT15382 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:34 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUHgSdI014604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:42:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Bethany In-Reply-To: <41902775.20031130085223@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <41902775.20031130085223@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Did you see this on LINGUIST? Yes, Karen. Thanks very much for thinking of me and calling it to my attention. I have emailed him. (No response yet.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 12:25:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUIPDuO029044 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:25:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FEC13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 12:54:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:54:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUHiUT15418 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:44:30 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUHhQdI014709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:43:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:44:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031130155731.13246.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031130155731.13246.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Bethany, did you not live in San Antonio when you were >teaching at Trinity? Just curious. Yes - and many other years. I am a native Texan. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 13:12:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUJCwuO029730 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:12:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FEC94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 14:12:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 43723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:12:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUJ2KT20023 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:02:20 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUJ1FdI026596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:01:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:02:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Chomsky Interview in The Guardian In-Reply-To: <3FC9FF41.4030706@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC9FF41.4030706@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/politicsphilosophyandsociety/ >> story/0,6000,1096132,00.html > >Thanks. I just blogged it. What does that mean - to blog it?> >> I don't know how long current stories stay online. > >A long time. Depends - many newspapers remove stories after a few days. I just don't know the Guardian's policy. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 13:58:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUJwHuO030262 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:58:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61309@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 14:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:47:37 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUJlbT22921 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:47:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031130194732.LLRW2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA4955.8050705@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:47:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Chomsky Interview in The Guardian References: <3FC9FF41.4030706@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>Thanks. I just blogged it. > > What does that mean - to blog it? Added the url to my blog: http://nmaynor.blogspot.com/ >>>I don't know how long current stories stay online. >> >>A long time. > > Depends - many newspapers remove stories after a few days. I just don't > know the Guardian's policy. ? That's why I was answering your question about the Guardian. I don't know exactly how long, but I know it's a long time -- far longer than a few days. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 13:59:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUJxquO030275 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:59:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61329@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 14:59:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:59:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUJxDT23769 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:59:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUJwbsb014946 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:58:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:59:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1391758418.20031130135913@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: This page... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU makes me want to knit larger projects like sweaters: http://www.knit.dk/ Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 15:48:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAULmduO031832 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:48:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A613F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 16:47:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:47:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAULbwT31613 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:37:58 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAULasdI019708 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:36:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:37:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Chomsky Interview in The Guardian In-Reply-To: <3FCA4955.8050705@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC9FF41.4030706@maynor.net> <3FCA4955.8050705@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>Thanks. I just blogged it. >> >> What does that mean - to blog it? > >Added the url to my blog: >http://nmaynor.blogspot.com/ Didn't know you had one .... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 15:52:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAULq5uO031860 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:52:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A613FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 16:51:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:51:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAULpPT32573 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:51:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAULpOeO022375 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:51:24 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAULpNa2022346; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:51:23 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130135254.00a64c50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:53:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Michael E. Macmillan has sent you an article from npr.org In-Reply-To: <200311292017.hATKHX923081@Mercury5.npr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:17 PM 11/29/2003 -0500, mem@TRYWAIT.NET wrote: >Michael E. Macmillan thought you would be interested in this story: "NPR : >Texas Twang, Y'all" > > Thanks, mem. I had been fixin to listen to it all week end and just got around to it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 15:58:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAULwiuO031911 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:58:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 16:58:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:58:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAULw4T00503 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:58:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAULw32f025774 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:58:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAULw1JC025760; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:58:02 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130140010.00a474f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:00:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <20031130165422.GA32383@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:54 PM 11/30/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Jim Bradley: >= The Food article in today's New York Times magazine is about Jimmy >= and The Red Cat. It includes 2 recipes--Salad with Gruyere and >= Sausage and Mushroom Risotto with Raisins. >= >= /Jim > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/30/magazine/30FOOD.html I want to go there. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMPnuO032347 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:25:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A614A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:25:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:25:09 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMP9T02970 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:25:09 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAUMOoeg019415 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:24:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001801c3b790$d9d38ec0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: India Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:25:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hAUMPnuO032347 I have had two emails from India and my daughter is having a marvelous but a very mixed experience. She has been in Chennai (formerly Madras) and then travelled by herself but with a guide to Delhi to see the Taj Mahal, etc., now planning a quick trip to Kerrala. I guess in Chennai they have rounded up the elephants to return to the jungle and they are also clearing the streets of cows, which will not be allowed there anymore. As you might guess (knowing my own views) her greatest shock has been exposure to the Indian class system. The thing that has surprised her the most is not the conditions of the street or of the household servants, but the conditions of the privileged. This kind of life is unknown to us. I have been concerned because she is not well travelled. I guess she had to start somewhere, and she is absolutely having a ball. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:30:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMUWuO032405 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:30:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A614CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:29:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:29:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f35.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMTpT03351 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:29:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:29:46 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.126 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:29:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.126] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:29:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 22:29:46.0315 (UTC) FILETIME=[7554F9B0:01C3B791] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: >cranberry sauce just so I could have turkey-n-stuffing >sandwiches for the week, but that's because nobody in >Missouri has ever heard of a turkey-n-stuffing sandwich, one >of the world's sublime delights, but I digress. I wouldn't This is the signature sandwich at the local deli (Capriatti's). It's called 'The Bobby'. Turkey, cranberry 'n' stuffing sandwich available throughout the year. yummo. _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:36:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMatuO032517 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:36:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A614D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:36:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:36:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMaFT04187 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:36:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUMaE2f016610 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:36:14 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUMaDJC016586; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:36:14 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130143739.00a622e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:38:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:29 PM 11/30/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Rita: > >>cranberry sauce just so I could have turkey-n-stuffing >>sandwiches for the week, but that's because nobody in >>Missouri has ever heard of a turkey-n-stuffing sandwich, one >>of the world's sublime delights, but I digress. I wouldn't > >This is the signature sandwich at the local deli (Capriatti's). >It's called 'The Bobby'. Turkey, cranberry 'n' stuffing >sandwich available throughout the year. yummo. I never had it with the stuffing. Cranberry, yes. We never have leftover stuffing. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:40:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMekuO032558 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:40:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A614ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:40:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:40:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMe6T04619 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:40:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUMe5eO014564 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:40:05 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUMe3a2014532 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:40:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130143928.00a31340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:42:25 -0800 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Marie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The sweet potatoes with southern comfort from "The Best American Recipes 2001-2002" was the biggest hit at our dinner. Thanks for turning me on to those cook books. I bought all except the most recent. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:46:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMk3uO032629 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:46:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A614DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:45:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:45:23 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMjNT05034 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:45:23 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAUMiTeg016725 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:44:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b793$98308ce0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031130143928.00a31340@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Marie Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:45:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The sweet potatoes with southern comfort from "The Best American Recipes > 2001-2002" was the biggest hit at our dinner. Thanks for turning me on to > those cook books. I bought all except the most recent. > > Betty Well . . . are you going to share this recipe, or has it already been shared? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:51:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMpguO032729 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:51:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61511@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:51:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:51:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMp1T05529 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:51:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.34.4298d38f (4312) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:50:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:50:50 EST Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/30/2003 9:02:32 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >who is too relaxed to ever accomplish much... > >Karen > What makes you think relaxed people cannot accomplish much? Do you have to be a nervous wreck and a bundle of nerves at all times to get things done or started? If that's what you are teaching our youngsters, no wonder this country is all f*cked up! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 16:54:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUMs7uO032752 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:54:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A614FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 17:53:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:53:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f53.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.53]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUMrRT05681 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:53:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:53:22 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.126 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:53:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.126] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: new refrigerator Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:53:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 22:53:22.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1395A30:01C3B794] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >I use a Brita filter. Mostly because I like it extra cold so I like >a pitcher in the fridge and a filter can't hurt. I keep one (pitcher with Brita filter) in the fridge for a friend who turns up his nose at water from the faucet. Wouldn't want to be inhospitable. _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:02:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUN2YuO000432 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:02:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61532@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:01:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:01:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUN1sT06572 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:01:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAUN1miM001408 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:01:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:01:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 11/30/2003 9:02:32 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >>who is too relaxed to ever accomplish much... >> >>Karen >> > What makes you think relaxed people cannot accomplish much? I don't remember what preceded what I wrote above; I'm pretty sure that what I wrote is a direct response to that. > Do you have to be a nervous wreck and a bundle of nerves at all times to get > things done or started? If that's what you are teaching our youngsters, no > wonder this country is all f*cked up! What youngsters am I teaching? In any case, I decline full credit for fucking up this country. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:04:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUN42uO000454 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:04:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61551@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:03:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:03:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f11.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.11]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUN3MT06727 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:03:22 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:03:17 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.126 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:03:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.126] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: India Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:03:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 23:03:17.0016 (UTC) FILETIME=[23CD9980:01C3B796] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris M: >I have been concerned because she is not well >travelled. I guess she had to start somewhere, >and she is absolutely having a ball. I'm glad she's doing well. I often describe India as an "assault on the senses". Too many people, too many sounds, too much color, there's no mutedness, no off-switch. It's hard to describe or understand or adequately prepare for. *I* can't get used to it anymore, don't know how first-time visitors do it. When my folks visit here the first 2-3 days they keep remarking on the silence and space and fresh air. That's why I like them to visit regularly - to recharge their batteries so they can go back to all the pollution and noise. _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNCquO000592 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:12:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61579@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNCCT07515 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUNCAeO003467; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:12:10 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUNC4a2003430; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:12:05 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130144906.00a62bb0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:14:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Marie In-Reply-To: <000401c3b793$98308ce0$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <4.2.2.20031130143928.00a31340@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:45 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > The sweet potatoes with southern comfort from "The Best American >Recipes > > 2001-2002" was the biggest hit at our dinner. Thanks for turning me >on to > > those cook books. I bought all except the most recent. > > > > Betty > >Well . . . are you going to share this >recipe, or has it already been shared? > > - D. M. Since company has all departed I have nothing else to do. :-) My nephew is being deployed to Iraq next year and I'm so glad they were able to be here. I'll just type in both pages and hope I don't make too many typos. The introduction says: We know Janis Joplin would have loved these sweet potatoes, with their silken texture, their crunchy rum-spiked pecans and the pleasing hit of Southern Comfort--a traditional ingredient in holiday sweet potato dishes in upscale southern kitchens. They're always on the Thanksgiving table at the home of Gene Burns, host of the leading San Francisco food show on radio. Burns discovered the dish in Boston where Barbara Riley has a catering company called riley to the Rescue. The vanilla rum pecans are tasty on their own and make a good holiday gift. Vanilla Rum pecans or Walnuts Sweet Potatoes 2 cups pecans or walnuts 3 pounds sweet potatoes, unpeeled 4 T (1/2 stick) unsalted butter, melted 3/4 (1.5 sticks unsalted butter, melted 2-3 T light brown sugar 1 C heavy cream 2 t pure vanilla extract 1/3 C pure maple syrup, or a little more for extra flavor 2 T dark rum 1/4 C Southern Comfort 1 t ground cinnamon 1 t salt To make the nuts: Preheat the over to 325. Toss the nuts with the melted butter and brown sugar. Roast, stirring often, for 10 minutes, or until the nuts are glazed and slightly brown. Remove from the oven and toss with the remaining ingredients. Return to the over for another 3-4 minutes. Cool. To prepare the sweet potatoes: Meanwhile, place the unpeeled sweet potatoes in a large baking pan, add about 2 in. of water and cover tightly with foil. Bake on the lower shelf of the oven until tender, about 1.5 hr. (If the water evaporates, replace it with a bit more.) Remove the potatoes from the oven and let them cool enough to be handled . Peel them and add them to a food process in batches along with the remaining ingredients (except the nuts), processing until smooth. transfer the pureed sweet potatoes to a mixing bowl and beat with a wooden spoon to combine thoroughly. Serve the puree hot, garnished with the glazed nuts. Cook's not: You can make the potatoes and pecans a day ahead. When you are ready to serve, reheat the potato puree and add the nuts at the last minute. Source: Diningaround.com Cook: Barbara Rochatka Riley From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:17:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNHWuO000708 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:17:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61589@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:16:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:16:52 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNGqT08011 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:16:52 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUNGmOb802968 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:16:48 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:16:48 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grrrrrr... In-Reply-To: <869862807.20031129210340@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129184236.04745510@mail.istori.com> <869862807.20031129210340@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Karen Kay, in another context wrote: > There don't seem to *be* any old drivers. If only, if only... -- Richard, the multiply-reconstructed biker From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNLVuO000791 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:21:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6158D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:20:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:20:51 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNKpT08560 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:20:51 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUNKlOb8159242 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:20:47 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:20:47 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote, in re NPR: > > Why does it set you on edge? > I don't know. It's like nails on a blackboard. Oh, it's nothing like that; everyone can understand something _that_ annoying. It's _something_, though. Something. I blame Garrison Keillor. jeebus. -- Homer "What's everyone laughing at? That's not funny!" Simpson From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:24:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNOBuO000827 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:24:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61598@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNNVT08868 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:23:31 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.e6.42ad5efc (2519) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:23:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:23:14 EST Subject: Re: Acadiafest pictures To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/30/2003 7:31:04 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: >At the end of this email are the URLs for the sites where four people put >up Acadiafest pictures. Why is it that only my site still works? Did >the >rest of you take down your sites? I've had a total of 1266 hits on my >site >with 21 new ones this week. I wonder who keeps looking at them. > I get an error mesg at all of them :-} Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:26:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNQXuO000881 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:26:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FEF7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:25:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:25:43 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNPgT09037 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:25:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUNPf2f012654 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:25:41 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUNPeJC012644; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:25:41 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130152749.00a45470@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:28:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Acadiafest pictures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:23 PM 11/30/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 11/30/2003 7:31:04 AM, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: > > >At the end of this email are the URLs for the sites where four people put > >up Acadiafest pictures. Why is it that only my site still works? Did > >the > >rest of you take down your sites? I've had a total of 1266 hits on my > >site > >with 21 new ones this week. I wonder who keeps looking at them. > > >I get an error mesg at all of them :-} >Theo AOL sucks. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:35:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNZLuO000990 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:35:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A615A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:34:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:34:40 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNYeT09762 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:34:40 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hAUNYXeg009280 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:34:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: India Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:35:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris M: > > >I have been concerned because she is not well > >travelled. I guess she had to start somewhere, > >and she is absolutely having a ball. > > I'm glad she's doing well. > > I often describe India as an "assault on the senses". > Too many people, too many sounds, too much color, > there's no mutedness, no off-switch. It's hard to > describe or understand or adequately prepare for. > *I* can't get used to it anymore, don't know how > first-time visitors do it. When my folks visit here > the first 2-3 days they keep remarking on the > silence and space and fresh air. That's why I like > them to visit regularly - to recharge their batteries > so they can go back to all the pollution and noise.______________________________ Her husband talked to her a while ago by phone and she said that when she finally arrived at the Taj Mahal she was so over- whelmed, perhaps by the beauty, perhaps by the newness of her experience or her success in getting there relatively alone, that she just sat down and bawled. I had told her she may never be the same person after this trip, and she is telling me I am right. Her first email revealed that she was in shock, even though she had been well prepared. But she loves it there and I'm wondering how she will feel when it's time to leave, a week from now. This reminds me of a Japanese guest I had a few years ago. We took a drive to the capital city of Nebraska, a two hour trip, and all the way she was just aghast at the large open spaces, miles of open fields with no people or houses. She was in shock, really, and had been totally unprepared for this. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:35:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNZjuO000996 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:35:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A615AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:35:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:35:05 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f12.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNZ4T09906 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:35:05 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:34:59 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.126 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:34:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.126] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:34:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 23:34:59.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[91CE2A40:01C3B79A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Among your S&B companions, you have conclusive proof. I, for >>instance, don't >>listen to NPR radio. > >Nor do I. I can't abide it. It sets me on edge. And I don't consider myself >a conservative. Me too. I can't stand the relentless boomerism that seems to come thro' every program. Buncha old farts trying to sound hip. _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:42:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNgcuO001110 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:42:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A615D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:41:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:41:58 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f60.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNfwT10322 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:41:58 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:41:52 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.126 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:41:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.126] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:41:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 23:41:52.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[87E372F0:01C3B79B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin : >I blame Garrison Keillor. jeebus. I can't stand him either. That midwestern reverse-snobbery shtick gets old real fast. Give me Howard Stern and "stripper jeopardy" any day... _________________________________________________________________ Is there a gadget-lover on your gift list? MSN Shopping has lined up some good bets! http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:44:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNifuO001127 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:44:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A615D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:44:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f50.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNi1T10456 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:44:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:43:55 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.126 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:43:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.126] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: USB ports? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:43:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2003 23:43:55.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1860120:01C3B79B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: >Rashmi, the next time I visit my sister in DE, I'll stop in and demonstrate >both ways of knitting - with both hands. It's a date. _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:50:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNo9uO001166 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:50:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A615D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:49:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:49:29 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNnTT10945 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:49:29 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUNnSm6029118 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:49:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCA81B8.8000304@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:48:08 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > >> I use a Brita filter. Mostly because I like it extra cold so I like >> a pitcher in the fridge and a filter can't hurt. > > > I keep one (pitcher with Brita filter) in the fridge for a > friend who turns up his nose at water from the faucet. > Wouldn't want to be inhospitable. I keep one without the filter in the fridge. I just like cold water, and I had the pitcher sitting around the house. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 17:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hAUNsXuO001238 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:54:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A615E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 18:53:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:53:52 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAUNrqT11546 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:53:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAUNrpm6000970 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:53:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:52:31 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: USB ports? References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >>Do you have to be a nervous wreck and a bundle of nerves at all times to get >>things done or started? If that's what you are teaching our youngsters, no >>wonder this country is all f*cked up! >> > > What youngsters am I teaching? In any case, I decline full credit for > fucking up this country. Theo is always right, Karen. Just accept full blame and move on. We all know what a corrupter of youth you are -- especially that grandson of hers. Quote this back to her in three days and she'll deny memory of ever posting it because she could never say anything nasty like that, you liar. That will absolve you fully -- even if you are celebrating a Very Special Personal Christmas during Advent. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10AduO001498 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF01A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:09:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:09:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB109xT12934 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:09:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB109riM001081 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:09:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:09:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > But she loves it there and > I'm wondering how she will feel when it's > time to leave, a week from now. Maybe she won't leave. I know people who went to Japan for a week and stayed the rest of their lives. > This reminds me of a Japanese guest I had > a few years ago. We took a drive to the > capital city of Nebraska, a two hour trip, > and all the way she was just aghast at the > large open spaces, miles of open fields > with no people or houses. She was in > shock, really, and had been totally > unprepared for this. When I lived in Japan, there were lots of open fields. During the time I lived there, I watched many of the rice fields turn into housing. In any case, the open fields I knew were not uninterrupted--there are a lot of burial mounds, or shrines for special trees, etc. in fields. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:14:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10E6uO001537 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:14:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF026@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:13:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:13:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10DPT13341 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:13:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB10DKUh020001 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:13:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:13:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <663865000.20031130181323@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > We all know what a corrupter of youth you are -- > especially that grandson of hers. Yep; I did a really good job with him. > Quote this back to her in three days and she'll deny memory > of ever posting it because she could never say anything > nasty like that, you liar. :) > That will absolve you fully -- > even if you are celebrating a Very Special Personal > Christmas during Advent. LOL. I'm not quite in the Christmas mood yet. I still have to mow my lawn. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:16:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10GsuO001606 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:16:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:16:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:16:14 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10GDT13588 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:16:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201001608.HIHW1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:16:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA8849.9060502@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:16:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > This is the signature sandwich at the local deli (Capriatti's). > It's called 'The Bobby'. Turkey, cranberry 'n' stuffing > sandwich available throughout the year. yummo. Maybe I should try it in the cafeteria. Turkey, dressing, and cranberry sauce are regulars there -- at least once a week, probably more than that. I could get that along with a couple of slices of bread from the sandwich-making area and try it out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:19:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10JQuO001636 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:19:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF035@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:18:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:18:46 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10IjT14049 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:18:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB10IiAr085255 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:18:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130191809.00bcfc28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:19:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I don't remember what preceded what I wrote above; I'm pretty sure >that what I wrote is a direct response to that. --Karen You were writing about different kinds of knitters. Evidently the too relaxed knitter doesn't accomplish much. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:19:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10JWuO001639 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:19:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6160F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:18:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:18:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10IqT14075 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:18:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB10IoeO014421 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:18:50 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB10Ima2014388; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:18:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:21:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCA8849.9060502@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:16 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >>This is the signature sandwich at the local deli (Capriatti's). >>It's called 'The Bobby'. Turkey, cranberry 'n' stuffing >>sandwich available throughout the year. yummo. > >Maybe I should try it in the cafeteria. Turkey, dressing, and cranberry >sauce are regulars there -- at least once a week, probably more than >that. I could get that along with a couple of slices of bread from the >sandwich-making area and try it out. White bread? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:20:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10KZuO001691 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:20:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61629@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:19:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:19:55 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10JsT14232 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:19:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB10I6eg013901 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:18:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c3b7a0$abe57d60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: India Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:18:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > This reminds me of a Japanese guest I had > > a few years ago. We took a drive to the > > capital city of Nebraska, a two hour trip, > > and all the way she was just aghast at the > > large open spaces, miles of open fields > > with no people or houses. She was in > > shock, really, and had been totally > > unprepared for this. > > When I lived in Japan, there were lots of open fields. During the time > I lived there, I watched many of the rice fields turn into housing. In > any case, the open fields I knew were not uninterrupted--there are a > lot of burial mounds, or shrines for special trees, etc. in fields. > > Karen Well, this lady had lived in Tokyo all her life, had a position planning international conferences at a large hotel there, probably never saw the country. - D. M. a From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:21:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10LbuO001705 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:21:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6162D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:20:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:20:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10KvT14307 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:20:57 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB10J4eg016525 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:19:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b7a0$cee3ecc0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Christmas Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:19:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB10LbuO001705 Just read, and agree it's so: When you quit believing in Santa, you get underwear for Xmas. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10OGuO001733 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF047@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10NZT14734 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB10NWCB002468 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:23:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:22:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 06:16 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >>> This is the signature sandwich at the local deli (Capriatti's). >>> It's called 'The Bobby'. Turkey, cranberry 'n' stuffing >>> sandwich available throughout the year. yummo. >> >> >> Maybe I should try it in the cafeteria. Turkey, dressing, and cranberry >> sauce are regulars there -- at least once a week, probably more than >> that. I could get that along with a couple of slices of bread from the >> sandwich-making area and try it out. > > > White bread? It has to be a very thickly cut, good bread. Wonder bread will fall apart and otherwise make a lousy sandwich. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10PruO001774 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:25:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61630@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:25:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:25:13 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10PCT14925 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:25:12 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.131.276e5db9 (4468) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:25:02 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <131.276e5db9.2cfbe45e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:25:02 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Christmas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/30/2003 6:21:22 PM Central Standard Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << Just read, and agree it's so: When you quit believing in Santa, you get underwear for Xmas. >> Sometimes that's the reason you stop believing in Santa. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:28:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10SWuO001841 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:28:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:27:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:27:51 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10RpT15174 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:27:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201002746.SAJC1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA8B03.8010206@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:27:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: USB ports? References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > even if you are celebrating a Very Special Personal > Christmas during Advent. I saw an announcement in today's paper about special advent music at First Methodist Church at 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. today. I thought about going since I love xmas music, but I didn't want to get dressed up and go outside in the waning hours of the day. And a local church choir and hand-bellers aren't likely to be all that exciting really. We weren't when I sang in that choir. (I need to dig out the tape I have somewhere of my voice blasting forth right in front of the microphone when singing first tenor in a men's quartet at a Sunday night service at the methodist church. I know I've told that story before -- about how they decided I should be right in front of the microphone since my female voice would be the weakest. Ha! It blasts forth quite decisively.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10THuO001888 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:29:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:28:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:28:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10SaT15258 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:28:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB10SZ2f017667 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:28:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB10SXJC017642; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:28:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:30:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:22 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: It has to be a very thickly cut, good bread. Wonder bread >will fall apart and otherwise make a lousy sandwich. It's the end of Thanksgiving week end , Rita. Are you going to post stuff about Fest 2004? I just saw last night, or the night before, that your city isn't one of the safest in the country. Not that that would stop any wordsler. It was one of those runners that run below the news on stations like CNN. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:34:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10YmuO001976 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:34:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF069@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:34:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:34:01 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10Y0T15733 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:34:00 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB10XxGR028023 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:33:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCA8C27.7040801@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:32:39 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: USB ports? References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> <3FCA8B03.8010206@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> even if you are celebrating a Very Special Personal >> Christmas during Advent. > > > I saw an announcement in today's paper about special advent music at > First Methodist Church at 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. today. I thought about > going since I love xmas music, but I didn't want to get dressed up and > go outside in the waning hours of the day. And a local church choir and > hand-bellers aren't likely to be all that exciting really. We weren't > when I sang in that choir. (I need to dig out the tape I have somewhere > of my voice blasting forth right in front of the microphone when singing > first tenor in a men's quartet at a Sunday night service at the > methodist church. I know I've told that story before -- about how they > decided I should be right in front of the microphone since my female > voice would be the weakest. Ha! It blasts forth quite decisively.) I don't know how the Methodists do it, but Advent songs are different from Christmas songs. Lots of making straight the paths and stuff, not infants in mangers. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:40:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10eWuO002083 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:40:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61665@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:39:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:39:52 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10dpT16092 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:39:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB10doGR000522 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:39:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCA8D86.4010105@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:38:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 06:22 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > It has to be a very thickly cut, good bread. Wonder bread > >> will fall apart and otherwise make a lousy sandwich. > > > It's the end of Thanksgiving week end , Rita. Are you going to post stuff > about Fest 2004? I just saw last night, or the night before, that your city > isn't one of the safest in the country. Not that that would stop any > wordsler. It was one of those runners that run below the news on stations > like CNN. Well, I'm just starting to work on a little webpage at this very moment. I'm starting with the beer links. You see, I spent a couple of days at the barn playing with the horsies, and today it was golden 65 degree day, so after church (Advent I!! Break out the new Purples!! OK, whatever), Ana and I went on a bird watching hike at the conservation area. It's too early for the eagles, but I did see my first junco (and lots and lots of grackles). I was happy to note that the controlled hunt did a nice job of cutting down the dove population -- they were starting to take over. In other words, I was highly dilletantish this weekend, as usual. St. Louis isn't particularly dangerous unless you hang out in the wrong neighborhoods. Luckily, there aren't many tourist destinations in North or East St. Louis (unless you are a big fan of Myles Davis, but I'd take you in that case). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:41:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10fMuO002103 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:41:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:40:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:40:41 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10efT16182 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:40:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201004036.HPLC1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA8E05.4060604@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:40:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > When I lived in Japan, there were lots of open fields. During the time > I lived there, I watched many of the rice fields turn into housing. In > any case, the open fields I knew were not uninterrupted--there are a > lot of burial mounds, or shrines for special trees, etc. in fields. I've seen lots of open fields in Japan, though the ones I've seen don't stretch for miles and miles and miles the way they do in Iowa. (And yes, I realize Doris was talking about Nebraska, but I haven't been there except just barely -- the day I ate dead cow in a Nebraska McDonald's just across a bridge from Iowa and called Bonniemae and forgot to tell her Happy Birthday and felt horribly guilty. And then my cell phone wouldn't work, so I had to wait and call Bradykins from the motel phone somewhere in Kansas and have him convey my apologies to Bonniemae.) Anyway, I regularly passed an open rice-paddy on the train between my apartment and my place of work. And I saw lots of open fields from train windows when traveling to Nagasaki, etc. And then there were tons of wooded places. And one thing that always impressed me was that even in the heart of Tokyo one was not far away from quiet, beautiful gardens that gave the sense of being in a rural setting. The major parks were huge, but there were zillions of other small parks and shrines and whatevers offering beauty and quiet. Given the cost of real estate and the crowded sidewalks and trains, I found the abundance of peaceful places quite impressive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:43:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10hruO002149 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:43:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6167C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:43:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:43:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10XDT15688 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:33:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB10W7dI030713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:32:08 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:33:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: more re the SSA and benefits Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's more re the SSA and increased benefits. If you are making additional contributions to SS while collecting benefits, then your benefits will increase if your annual salary for a year replaces one of your highest 35 years of earnings. So what is happening in my case is that, most recently, my 2002 earnings were higher than a preceding year and thus replaced a preceding year. Benefits are apparently calculated on the basis of one's highest 35 years of earnings. That will continue as long as I am at UT, so my benefits will probably increase each year. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:47:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10lBuO002241 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:47:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61676@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:46:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:46:31 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10kUT16592 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:46:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201004625.HRLR1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:46:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA8F63.8000306@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:46:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: USB ports? References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> <663865000.20031130181323@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <663865000.20031130181323@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > LOL. I'm not quite in the Christmas mood yet. I still have to mow my > lawn. Mine needs it again, but I am not going to do it. Meanwhile, though, I had a WLM in Wmart this afternoon when I was looking for pansies -- waited too late -- they were almost sold out -- I bought the last little six-pack left. The WLM was that I suddenly saw the most gorgeous small artificial xmas tree. I dislike artificial xmas trees mightily. But this one really did look so real -- but did not smell real -- but then live trees that are shipped in from faraway places also don't smell real -- it's gotta be a cedar to smell like xmas for me. Anyway, I was tempted for an instant to buy that tree and put it on a table in my living room. But I didn't. It's too late now to do decorating. Tomorrow brings a very, very, very busy week, and my life will stay busy for at least the next ten days. I will be very glad when the ARF banquet is over. But I'll still have exams to grade. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10mVuO002248 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:48:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6167B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:47:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:47:50 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10loT16714 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:47:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201004745.HRYG1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:47:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA8FB2.6030809@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:47:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <001601c3b7a0$abe57d60$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <001601c3b7a0$abe57d60$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Well, this lady had lived in Tokyo all her life, had > a position planning international conferences at a > large hotel there, probably never saw the country. That would be very surprising. Japanese are *majorly* into travel, both domestic and international. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:48:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10mhuO002253 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:48:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61684@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:48:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:48:03 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10m2T16738 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:48:02 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120100475701100p22bue> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:47:57 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Acadiafest pictures Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:47:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130082848.00b37ed0@pop.gwi.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Adam: > My site works just fine (for me at least). --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10mruO002263 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:48:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6166A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:48:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:48:12 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10mCT16759 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:48:12 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031201004804014007rs5le>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:48:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130164136.02a3fe80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:50:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty writes, >isn't one of the safest in the country. 1st most dangerous metro area with population from 100,000-499,999. 2nd most dangerous metro area overall, after Detroit. http://www.morganquitno.com/cit04pop.htm There are lots of other interesting places on the safest / most dangerous lists. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10tNuO002350 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:55:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61688@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:54:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:54:43 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10sgT17253 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:54:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201005437.HUBD1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA914F.2010208@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:54:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas References: <000801c3b7a0$cee3ecc0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000801c3b7a0$cee3ecc0$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Just read, and agree it's so: > > When you quit believing in > Santa, you get underwear > for Xmas. I had forgotten about that. All of my childhood Daddy gave Mama underwear for xmas! It had become a joke. He also gave her other things, but there was always the underwear package under the tree. I think it continued past my childhood. I have a vague memory of doing his xmas shopping for him after he got old and not capable of doing it and remembering to get the underwear for Mama. We used to laugh also about how in my very young childhood I always bought bobby pins for Mama for xmas. But at least I did my own xmas shopping (not that I was out working to make the money -- the money was provided for me). I think it's odd that my nephew, now in his early twenties, has never, afaik, bought any gift himself. His parents take care of it for him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:56:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10unuO002381 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:56:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61679@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:56:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:56:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10k8T16575 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:46:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB10j3dI001237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:45:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:46:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCA8D86.4010105@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA8D86.4010105@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >(Advent I!! Break out the new Purples!! We had a glorious service today. We are using blue, not purple, and we had new hangings and new vestments for everyone. Our retired Bishop Sanders got to wear the best stuff first - we had confirmation (many new adult confirmands, about 20 I think) and he officiated, preached, confirmed, and celebrated. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:58:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10wAuO002413 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:58:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6168D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:57:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:57:30 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10vTT17456 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:57:29 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB10vQeg029125 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:57:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b7a6$2aa7ccc0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031130143928.00a31340@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130144906.00a62bb0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Marie Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:58:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the recipe, good Betty. Oh, isn't there a recipe called Brown Betty? Just thought of it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 18:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB10wDuO002416 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:58:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61696@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 19:57:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:57:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB10vWT17463 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:57:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB10vV2f005426 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:57:31 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB10vTJC005230; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:57:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:59:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130164136.02a3fe80@mail.istori.com> References: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:50 PM 11/30/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Betty writes, > >>isn't one of the safest in the country. > >1st most dangerous metro area with population from 100,000-499,999. > >2nd most dangerous metro area overall, after Detroit. > >http://www.morganquitno.com/cit04pop.htm > >There are lots of other interesting places on the safest / most dangerous >lists. Should we worry about Rita? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB111xuO002513 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:02:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6168F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:01:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:01:19 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB111IT17840 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:01:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201010110.HWBT1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:01:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA92D7.8030600@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:01:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: >> Maybe I should try it in the cafeteria. Turkey, dressing, and cranberry >> sauce are regulars there -- at least once a week, probably more than >> that. I could get that along with a couple of slices of bread from the >> sandwich-making area and try it out. > > White bread? My normal choice would be wheat, but I think white is also available. Are you saying that that is the choice for such a sandwich? Re types of bread, I'm suddenly remembering something I found so funny and that has stuck in my memory all these years. I remember it was when I was married, so it has to have been early '70s -- the reason I remember that was that I remember I couldn't wait to tell my husband. I was in the Union getting a sandwich for lunch and was behind a student who was outraged because they had just run out of whole-wheat bread. When the sandwich-maker asked if white bread would do, the student said, "NO! White bread is bad for you!" But here's the funny part: I watched that student move on to another section of the Union grill and get something like a hamburger and french-fries. (I also think it was bad that they'd run out of ww bread that day, but I really don't think that the white bread would've wrenched out that student's guts.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:05:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB115euO002587 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:05:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF089@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:04:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:59 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB114xT18099 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:59 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120101045301100p25m3e> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:04:53 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031130165422.GA32383@yoccoz.multinix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > = The Food article in today's New York Times magazine is about Jimmy > = and The Red Cat. It includes 2 recipes--Salad with Gruyere and > = Sausage and Mushroom Risotto with Raisins. > = > = /Jim > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/30/magazine/30FOOD.html Okay, okay, don't twist my arm, I'll eat there! Yum. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:10:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11ASuO002662 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:10:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF0D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:09:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:09:47 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB119lT18518 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:09:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB119jAr009803 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:09:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130200858.00bcfe98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:10:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <3FCA8C27.7040801@swbell.net> References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> <3FCA8B03.8010206@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know how the Methodists do it, but Advent songs are >different from Christmas songs. Lots of making straight the >paths and stuff, not infants in mangers. >Rita Rouvalis Chapman As I recall it's something about lonely exile here until the Son of God appear. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11AiuO002680 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:10:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A616B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:10:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:10:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11A3T18574 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:10:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB11A1W1010316 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:10:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB119wWq010289; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:09:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130171125.00a73820@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:12:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCA92D7.8030600@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:01 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>>Maybe I should try it in the cafeteria. Turkey, dressing, and cranberry >>>sauce are regulars there -- at least once a week, probably more than >>>that. I could get that along with a couple of slices of bread from the >>>sandwich-making area and try it out. >> >>White bread? > >My normal choice would be wheat, but I think white is also available. >Are you saying that that is the choice for such a sandwich? I don't know. I've never had one. Rita answered. I like bread. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11DjuO002750 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:13:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A616DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:13:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:13:03 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11D3T18765 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:13:03 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120101125801600r6b9ue> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:12:58 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: USB ports? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:12:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FCA8B03.8010206@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > methodist church. I know I've told that story before -- about how they > decided I should be right in front of the microphone since my female > voice would be the weakest. Ha! It blasts forth quite decisively.) This reminds me of the tape I have of the Messiah performance I sang in while in college - I can hear one tenor in the chorus quite predominantly. I remember he was an old man with an atrocious red toupee. Man did he just belt it out; you could tell he'd been singing it for years. Speaking of which, our local Messiah sing-alongs are on the 21st and I have to start practicing. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:14:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11E0uO002754 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:14:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A616D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:13:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:13:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11DJT18783 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:13:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201011314.TGRQ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:13:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA95AB.2010100@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:13:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > It has to be a very thickly cut, good bread. Wonder bread > will fall apart and otherwise make a lousy sandwich. This may be a problem. I almost never go to the sandwich-making area in the cafeteria and thus am not sure what the bread choices are, but my guess is that they aren't all that great. But here's another thought: My pattern since so-called retirement is often to leave campus shortly after lunch. That means I could eat whatever for lunch with my friends (whom I have mightily missed during this vacation, I might add) and then go back and get turkey and dressing and cranberry sauce in a to-go box, bring it home, and put it on good bread. I could either bake some bread, which I haven't done in ages but presumably could still figure out how to do, or buy some good bread somewhere. The latter would be simpler. (Have we decided whether it should be white? I don't think I ever tried making any white bread. The only kind I knew how to make was ww.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:19:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11J0uO002877 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:19:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A616E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:18:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:18:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11IJT19226 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:18:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201011814.TIFM1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:18:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA96D7.4060902@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:18:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: USB ports? References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <168261198.20031130170151@WordWrite.com> <3FCA82BF.2060001@swbell.net> <3FCA8B03.8010206@maynor.net> <3FCA8C27.7040801@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCA8C27.7040801@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't know how the Methodists do it, but Advent songs are > different from Christmas songs. Lots of making straight the > paths and stuff, not infants in mangers. I'm trying to remember what all the newspaper thing said -- something about "masterpiece characters" or some such. I got the feeling that some sort of little skit was going to be acted out, in addition to the music. But the dinger for the Smart Ones pizza in the toaster oven is about to ding. I must go get out the silver and fine china and goblet for the special meal I'm about to eat. No pepperoni this time. This one is vegetarian. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11L1uO002900 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:21:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF0F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:20:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:20:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11KDT19364 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:20:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB11K7iM000669 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:20:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:20:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <239123285.20031130192011@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130191809.00bcfc28@pop.gwi.net> References: <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <34.4298d38f.2cfbce4a@aol.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031130191809.00bcfc28@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I don't remember what preceded what I wrote above; I'm pretty sure >>that what I wrote is a direct response to that. --Karen > You were writing about different kinds of knitters. Evidently the too > relaxed knitter doesn't accomplish much. I'm reading on one of the knitting mailing lists how people can make a pair of socks a week--on 1's. Compared to that, I'm not accomplishing much. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11MPuO002920 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:22:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF0FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:21:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:21:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11LiT19455 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:21:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB11LciM002221 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:21:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:21:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1792010620.20031130192142@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <001601c3b7a0$abe57d60$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <001601c3b7a0$abe57d60$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > Well, this lady had lived in Tokyo all her life, had > a position planning international conferences at a > large hotel there, probably never saw the country. Tokyo is actually on a plain, but of course the rice fields started being overbuilt about 150 years ago. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:25:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11PQuO002959 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:25:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A616FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:24:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:24:45 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11OjT19634 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:24:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB11OgAt016347; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:24:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130201501.00b4e6d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:24:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:03 PM 11/30/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Doris M: > >>I have been concerned because she is not well >>travelled. I guess she had to start somewhere, >>and she is absolutely having a ball. > >I'm glad she's doing well. > >I often describe India as an "assault on the senses". >Too many people, too many sounds, too much color, >there's no mutedness, no off-switch. It's hard to >describe or understand or adequately prepare for. What a perfect description. I think that I have said it here before---for the first 24 hours or so in India, if I could have pushed a button and been instantaneously returned to the USA, I would have pushed that button. After the first day or so, I got caught up in experiencing and appreciating a much different way of life. There was one other thing that I believe you recognize but didn't mention: the odors---not necessarily bad, but again, very different. And again, for the first-time visitor, it's that everything is different. I'm somewhat surprised that you experience the same thing. I would have presumed some sort of aesthetic/sensory/etc. memory, but perhaps that doesn't happen---or perhaps you've been away too long. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:32:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11WEuO003057 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:32:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6170A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:31:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:31:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11VXT20322 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:31:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB11VNUh024711 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:31:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:31:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1008444819.20031130193126@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130201501.00b4e6d8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130201501.00b4e6d8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > There was one other thing that > I believe you recognize but didn't mention: the odors---not necessarily > bad, but again, very different. And again, for the first-time visitor, > it's that everything is different. The first six months I lived in Japan, I was nauseated almost every day. My bus stop was in front of a pickle place and the smell of fermentation was too much for me; in the beginning I lost my lunch a couple of times. After about six months, I noticed that I was inhaling when I passed the store, that it had become a good smell. When I was in Hong Kong, there were streets I did not walk down because they smelled too bad. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11dAuO003187 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF0F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:38:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:38:29 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11cST21083 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:38:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB11bqpe025290 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:37:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCA9B42.8040307@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:40:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11e1uO003196 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:40:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6171E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:39:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:20 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11dKT21181 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:20 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AFA9D2B57C; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:39:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A212D2B56F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:39:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:39:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: <1008444819.20031130193126@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > The first six months I lived in Japan, I was nauseated almost every > day. My bus stop was in front of a pickle place and the smell of > fermentation was too much for me; in the beginning I lost my lunch a > couple of times. After about six months, I noticed that I was inhaling > when I passed the store, that it had become a good smell. Oh good! I have something to add, albeit a senile recollection: When I was 20 years old and spending that summer in Rome, living with a middle-aged Italian couple, at first I was offended by the strong garlic etc. smell on the buses. I mean not offended, because I wanted to fit in, but made uncomfortable. Then after maybe a week of eating the same food everybody else did, I didn't notice it. Because (I assumed) I smelled the same. Hmmm. Now, what do I want to smell like . . . Hey what do they smell like in Ibiza? Los Angeles, even? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:46:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11kruO003315 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:46:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61726@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:46:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:46:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11kCT21681 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:46:12 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.84.1d9d0d7a (16930) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:46:04 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <84.1d9d0d7a.2cfbf75c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:46:04 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/30/2003 1:57:43 AM Central Standard Time, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: << http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers.php >> Thanks! It helped me find the one I want, and it's the Philips DVD726, and guess where I found it? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:49:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11nmuO003360 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:49:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6172E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:49:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11n7T22022 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:49:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-131.gwi.net [216.195.150.131]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB11n3Gp063062; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:49:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130204812.00b50340@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:48:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FCA9B42.8040307@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: > >http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html Great start---about all you need now is some links to accommodations. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11rJuO003402 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:53:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF157@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:52:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:52:38 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11qcT22515 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:52:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201015233.WORT1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:52:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA9EE2.3090605@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:52:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Should we worry about Rita? I think not. I have the feeling that Rita is . Wasn't it Rita who was chastising abht, when she was still abh, for being in the "war zone" of Boston when abh was wandering around Boston and talking to us on a cell phone a day or so before Clambake? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:56:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11ueuO003432 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:56:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6172F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:55:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:55:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11twT22847 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:55:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB11tniM002904 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:55:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:55:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <447322327.20031130195553@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCA9EE2.3090605@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA9EE2.3090605@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: >> Should we worry about Rita? > I think not. I have the feeling that Rita is . Wasn't it > Rita who was chastising abht, when she was still abh, for being in the > "war zone" of Boston when abh was wandering around Boston and talking to > us on a cell phone a day or so before Clambake? Not war zone--Combat Zone. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 19:57:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB11vjuO003453 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:57:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61747@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 20:57:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:57:04 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB11v4T23030 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:57:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201015658.WPYK1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCA9FEC.1070208@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:57:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: USB ports? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>methodist church. I know I've told that story before -- about how they >>decided I should be right in front of the microphone since my female >>voice would be the weakest. Ha! It blasts forth quite decisively.) > > This reminds me of the tape I have of the Messiah performance I sang in > while in college - I can hear one tenor in the chorus quite predominantly. I > remember he was an old man with an atrocious red toupee. Man did he just > belt it out; you could tell he'd been singing it for years. Let it be known, though, that my heavy voice in that tape was because of the placement of the microphone -- and because they told me to sing louder since I was a female! In my myriad years of choirdom, I was never one to belt out inappropriately. > Speaking of which, our local Messiah sing-alongs are on the 21st and I have > to start practicing. And I feel so mightily depressed that I can no longer sing. Like your belt-out man, though I didn't belt out, I sang the Messiah for so many years that it is part of my inner fiber. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:03:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1230uO003530 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:03:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6175F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:02:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:02:19 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB122IT23634 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:02:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201020213.WRMA1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:02:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAA127.6070407@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:02:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130201501.00b4e6d8@pop.gwi.net> <1008444819.20031130193126@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1008444819.20031130193126@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > When I was in Hong Kong, there were streets I did not walk down > because they smelled too bad. I didn't encounter smelly streets in HK, but I do remember feeling a bit overwhelmed by the spicy smells in the casbahs I wandered through in Morocco, thinking that I really was in a foreign country. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1245uO003563 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6175A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:03:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:03:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB123OT23687 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:03:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB123FiM009799 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:03:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:03:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1917707993.20031130200319@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: For Natalie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a definition from http://www.boston-online.com/glossary/combat_zone_the.html : "Combat Zone, the The city's "adult entertainment district," located between Downtown Crossing and Chinatown, more or less. The porno places are now almost entirely gone, and the "combat" these days are mostly between developers and Chinatown residents who don't want to be displaced by expensive condos planned for the area's rundown buildings." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1254uO003581 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:05:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6174B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:04:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:04:23 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB124NT23745 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:04:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201020418.WSAT1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:04:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAA1A3.2070500@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <3FCA9B42.8040307@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCA9B42.8040307@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: > > http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html Outstanding! It is bookmarked in Mozilla now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:17:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12HauO003827 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:17:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6177C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:16:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:16:55 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12GtT24761 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:16:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201021650.YMIQ1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAA493.7090009@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:16:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA9EE2.3090605@maynor.net> <447322327.20031130195553@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <447322327.20031130195553@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I think not. I have the feeling that Rita is . Wasn't it >>Rita who was chastising abht, when she was still abh, for being in the >>"war zone" of Boston when abh was wandering around Boston and talking to >>us on a cell phone a day or so before Clambake? > > Not war zone--Combat Zone. Right. Combat Zone. But I don't think that wording changes the point of my posting. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:19:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12J7uO003855 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:19:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61762@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:18:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:18:26 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12IPT24857 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:18:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201021820.YMWV1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAA4ED.7070704@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:18:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie References: <1917707993.20031130200319@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1917707993.20031130200319@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Here's a definition from > http://www.boston-online.com/glossary/combat_zone_the.html : But the subject header is misleading. This info is relevant to abht, not to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:21:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12L9uO003900 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:21:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12KST25012 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:20:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB12Jpsb012661 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:19:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:20:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <761226214.20031130202030@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCAA493.7090009@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA9EE2.3090605@maynor.net> <447322327.20031130195553@WordWrite.com> <3FCAA493.7090009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>I think not. I have the feeling that Rita is . Wasn't it >>>Rita who was chastising abht, when she was still abh, for being in the >>>"war zone" of Boston when abh was wandering around Boston and talking to >>>us on a cell phone a day or so before Clambake? >> >> Not war zone--Combat Zone. > Right. Combat Zone. But I don't think that wording changes the point > of my posting. Whatever. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:25:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12PuuO003986 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:25:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6177B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12PET25731 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB12PDeO014453 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:25:13 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB12PAa2014402; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:25:11 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:27:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FCA9B42.8040307@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: > >http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html Excellent! Thank you. Sorry that I can't make it. (Just kidding.) BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:27:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12RbuO004024 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:27:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:26:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:26:56 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12QuT25988 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:26:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB12Qtm6001336 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:26:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCAA68A.1070501@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:25:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031130162832.00a82100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA89B6.9060005@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130162056.00a7bd60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130165924.00a7b240@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCA9EE2.3090605@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: > >> Should we worry about Rita? > > > I think not. I have the feeling that Rita is . Wasn't it > Rita who was chastising abht, when she was still abh, for being in the > "war zone" of Boston when abh was wandering around Boston and talking to > us on a cell phone a day or so before Clambake? Combat Zone. One shouldn't worry about me. I meet more criminals in Room 219 than on the streets. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:30:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12UvuO004110 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:30:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61787@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:30:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:30:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12UGT26356 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:30:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312010230.hB12UGT26356@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:30:16 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: USB ports? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:20:11 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, November 30, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>I don't remember what preceded what I wrote above; I'm pretty sure >>>that what I wrote is a direct response to that. --Karen > >> You were writing about different kinds of knitters. Evidently the too >> relaxed knitter doesn't accomplish much. > >I'm reading on one of the knitting mailing lists how people can make a >pair of socks a week--on 1's. Compared to that, I'm not accomplishing >much. > >Karen You're probably doing other things in life, though - and avoiding neck and upper back problems. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:32:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12WcuO004121 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:32:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A617A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:31:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:31:57 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB12VvT26461 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:31:57 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:31:51 PST Message-ID: <20031201023151.45332.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:31:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001801c3b790$d9d38ec0$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I have been concerned because she is not well > travelled. I guess she had to start somewhere, > and she is absolutely having a ball. I knew she would! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:34:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12YOuO004142 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:34:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF18C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:33:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:32:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12WtT26613 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:32:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF1BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:32:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312010232.hB12WtT26613@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:32:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:46:04 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 11/30/2003 1:57:43 AM Central Standard Time, >stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: ><< >http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers.php >>> > >Thanks! It helped me find the one I want, and it's the >Philips DVD726, and guess where I found it? > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >A scavenger hunt? How horrible! >I don't believe in hunting scavengers. >-- Bubbles "right in your own back yard"? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:35:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12ZWuO004155 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:35:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A617B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:34:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:34:51 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12YpT27084 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:34:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB12YEpe018672 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:34:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCAA865.9080208@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:33:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031130204812.00b50340@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 07:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: >> >> http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html > > > Great start---about all you need now is some links to accommodations. I'll get there. I've never stayed in any of the local establishments, so I'll have to visit to see which ones are decent. Probably over Christmas break. Look! We have a Bed & Breakfast! http://www.englishinnbandb.com/ I'll definitely go and inspect. I drive up Rue St. Francois all the time, but I don't remember seeing this place. I think they overstate the charms of Old Towne somewhat, but it's a generally pleasant area. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:37:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12bluO004192 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:37:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A617C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:37:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12b5T27559 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:37:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB12b0Uh026004 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:37:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:37:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <171083206.20031130203704@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <200312010230.hB12UGT26356@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312010230.hB12UGT26356@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I'm reading on one of the knitting mailing lists how people can make a >>pair of socks a week--on 1's. Compared to that, I'm not accomplishing >>much. >> >>Karen > You're probably doing other things in life, though - and avoiding neck and > upper back problems. I don't really care. I'd like to be an efficient knitter, and I generally am, but I also get bored easily. I suspect these people are not messing with the pattern or with different kinds of wool. That being said, I'm doing a sock with 0's, and it's taken me about 2 months to do the heel flap because I can only stand to do a couple of rows at a time. If I do more than that, I have to undo it all because I invariably drop or split a stitch. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:40:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12e8uO004228 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A617BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:39:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:39:27 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB12dRT27863 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:39:27 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:39:21 PST Message-ID: <20031201023921.73320.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:39:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCA8849.9060502@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Maybe I should try it in the cafeteria. Turkey, > dressing, and cranberry > sauce are regulars there -- at least once a week, > probably more than > that. I could get that along with a couple of > slices of bread from the > sandwich-making area and try it out. It's terrific. To me, it was always the best food part of Thanksgiving. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12exuO004237 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:40:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A617D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:40:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:40:17 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12eHT27954 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:40:17 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.61.3887533e (4196) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:40:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <61.3887533e.2cfc0407@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:40:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/30/2003 8:34:05 PM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << "right in your own back yard"? >> Yeah. I'd buy it from the website, but I still have a friend in the electronics department (not Annegret!), so I will buy it from her. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12gwuO004292 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:42:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A617C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB12gHT28172 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:42:12 PST Message-ID: <20031201024212.93792.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:42:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <131.276e5db9.2cfbe45e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Sometimes that's the reason you stop believing in > Santa. One Christmas, my father got (among other gifts) a heating pad, some cologne and some underwear. He stomped out of the room muttering that we all thought him a smelly old man. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:47:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12lcuO004365 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:47:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF1A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:46:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:46:57 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12kvT28630 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:46:57 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120102465001200294vke> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 02:46:50 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Christmas Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:46:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031201024212.93792.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > stomped out of the room muttering that we all thought > him a smelly old man. Well, was he and did you? I give my father good cologne because he buys the cheap knockoff shit at Walgreens. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:51:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12pIuO004388 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:51:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A617F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB12oaT28982 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:50:36 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:50:31 PST Message-ID: <20031201025031.99315.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:50:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: USB ports? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > Speaking of which, our local Messiah sing-alongs are > on the 21st and I have > to start practicing. You will participating sans toupee? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:52:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12qMuO004410 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:52:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A617FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:51:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:51:41 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12pXT29061 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:51:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB12pQCB009020 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:51:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:49:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 07:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: >> >> http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html > > > Excellent! Thank you. Sorry that I can't make it. (Just kidding.) Ha ha. I added some accomodations to the web page. There's a huge RV park at 370 and 94, ya know :). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:55:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12tLuO004455 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:55:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF1DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:54:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:54:40 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12seT29388 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:54:40 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120102543401200293sge> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 02:54:34 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: USB ports? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031201025031.99315.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You will participating sans toupee? Yes. I have no toupee. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:56:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12u1uO004462 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:56:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61805@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:55:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:55:20 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB12tKT29454 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:55:20 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:55:14 PST Message-ID: <20031201025514.35476.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCA9B42.8040307@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: First quick shot? It reflects a lot of research and consideration. Good job. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:57:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12v2uO004477 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:57:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61816@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:56:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:56:20 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB12uKT29630 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:56:20 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:56:11 PST Message-ID: <20031201025611.55645.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:56:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > Hmmm. Now, what do I want to smell like . . . Hey > what do they smell like > in Ibiza? Los Angeles, even? Smog. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 20:58:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB12wjuO004489 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:58:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6181A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 21:58:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:58:03 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB12w3T29880 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:58:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201025758.TYKC1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAAE37.7030601@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:57:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031201023921.73320.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031201023921.73320.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It's terrific. To me, it was always the best food > part of Thanksgiving. I've always liked turkey sandwiches. That is my regular travel food when driving -- stopping at Subways and getting turkey sandwiches. But I had never thought before about a turkey-and-dressing sandwich. Re Subways, one of my current students who works at a local Subway found it funny when I told her not long ago, while buying a turkey sandwich there, that I had for many years sought out Subways when traveling and loved their sandwiches but that it had not occurred to me until a month or two ago that I could actually go to a Subway in Starkville. That's true. I hadn't thought about it. It hit me one day, and now I go there often on weekends. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:03:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB133CuO004592 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:03:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF1FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:02:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:02:30 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB132UT30376 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:02:30 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:02:25 PST Message-ID: <20031201030225.78685.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:02:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: USB ports? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <171083206.20031130203704@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: If I do more than that, I have to > undo it all because > I invariably drop or split a stitch. Did you ever devise the zebra design you were considering? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:05:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB135puO004644 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:05:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF1D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:05:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:05:09 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB1359T30521 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:05:09 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:05:03 PST Message-ID: <20031201030503.57760.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:05:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > Well, was he and did you? I give my father good > cologne because he buys the > cheap knockoff shit at Walgreens. Not particularly any of those, at that time. He was the spoiled, first son of a doting Welsh family, and I adored him, even during his frequent temper tantrums. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:20:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13KhuO004927 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:20:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61837@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:09:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:09:38 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB139cT30790 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:09:38 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:09:33 PST Message-ID: <20031201030933.13432.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:09:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCAAE37.7030601@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: That's > true. I hadn't thought about it. It hit me one > day, and now I go there > often on weekends. Most Sundays, I go to the office to get some uninterrupted work done. I always stop at Subway and get a sub, tea, and 2 choc chip cookies, which I enjoy at the office at my leisure. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:20:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13KhuO004929 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:20:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6183B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:13:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:13:04 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13D4T31194 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:13:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201031258.ZGPB1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:12:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAB1BC.2050409@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:13:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031201030933.13432.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031201030933.13432.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Most Sundays, I go to the office to get some > uninterrupted work done. I always stop at Subway and > get a sub, tea, and 2 choc chip cookies, which I enjoy > at the office at my leisure. Oh yes -- I always get a chocolate chip cookie in addition to my turkey sandwich. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:20:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13KhuO004928 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:20:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:10:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:10:56 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13AuT30955 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:10:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.153.168]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201031051.ZFUG1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAB13C.7010607@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:10:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Football Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just looked again at the Clarion-Ledger's website and saw this 6 p.m. update. I wonder whether Croom met TWD today (and am I mutant for finding that "on" in sentence one a bit odd?): ************ Croom toured MSU's campus on today with the school's athletic director, Larry Templeton. Croom, who flew back to Green Bay around 2:30 p.m., wasn't available for comment, but Templeton said that Croom was offered the job Friday. Templeton expects Croom to make a final decision by tonight or Monday morning. When asked if he has a "Plan B" in case Croom decided not to take the job, Templeton said, "I think y'all know me well enough to know how optimistic I get. I think this is it." ****************************** from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0311/30/wcoach.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13O7uO004993 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:24:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF1FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:23:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:23:25 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f63.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13NPT31986 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:23:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:23:16 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.230 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:23:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.230] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 03:23:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2003 03:23:16.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[75A789E0:01C3B7BA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >= The Food article in today's New York Times magazine is about Jimmy >= and The Red Cat. It includes 2 recipes--Salad with Gruyere and >= Sausage and Mushroom Risotto with Raisins. >= >= /Jim > >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/30/magazine/30FOOD.html Emily and I ate there - the year the red cat opened. The food and the place were both terrific. Time for a repeat visit. _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:24:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13OtuO005011 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:24:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6183E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:24:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:24:13 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB13ODT32091 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:24:13 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:24:08 PST Message-ID: <20031201032408.56194.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:24:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Football To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCAB13C.7010607@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I just looked again at the Clarion-Ledger's website > and saw this 6 p.m. > update. I wonder whether Croom met TWD today (and > am I mutant for > finding that "on" in sentence one a bit odd?): I have seen and heard "on" used with today and yesterday, and it always struck me as superfluous. > Croom toured MSU's campus on today with the school's > athletic director, > Larry Templeton. Croom, who flew back to Green Bay > around 2:30 p.m., > wasn't available for comment, but Templeton said > that Croom was offered > the job Friday. > > Templeton expects Croom to make a final decision by > tonight or Monday > morning. When asked if he has a "Plan B" in case > Croom decided not to > take the job, Templeton said, "I think y'all know me > well enough to know > how optimistic I get. I think this is it." > ****************************** I hope they get him, if he will turn the program around. Something is niggling at the back of my mind re: a certain prima donna quality about him, though. Can't put my finger on it. Maybe Dr. V. has more info. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:38:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13c0uO005311 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:38:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF24C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:37:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:37:11 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13bBT00917 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:37:11 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB13arAv013957 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:37:09 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 17:37:35 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Football Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FCA2ADF.14202.1AF342E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FCAB13C.7010607@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 30 Nov 2003 at 21:10, Natalie Maynor wrote: > (and am I mutant for finding that "on" in sentence one a bit odd?): It's an editing error, I would guess. The copy was probably written for Monday's print edition (where it will say "on Sunday") and carelessly repurposed for the Web site today. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:41:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13feuO005353 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:41:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF258@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:40:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:40:59 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB13ewT01136 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:40:58 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:40:53 PST Message-ID: <20031201034053.31174.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Football To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCA2ADF.14202.1AF342E@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > It's an editing error, I would guess. The copy was > probably written for > Monday's print edition (where it will say "on > Sunday") and carelessly > repurposed for the Web site today. Ah, yes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:46:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13k2uO005411 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:46:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF26E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:45:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:45:20 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13jKT01629 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:45:20 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB13jIkF001439 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:45:18 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB13jIhh001437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:45:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:45:18 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator Message-ID: <20031201034518.GA1400@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy: = On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: = = >I use a Brita filter. Mostly because I like it extra cold so I like = >a pitcher in the fridge and a filter can't hurt. = = I keep one (pitcher with Brita filter) in the fridge for a = friend who turns up his nose at water from the faucet. = Wouldn't want to be inhospitable. = They tamper with our water here. It goes through seasons, sometimes tasty, sometimes not so. They also mess with the hardness. They're supposed to soften it but sometimes they do better than others. For the longest time we were drinking Brita water, but we're back to just water from the tap, because it tastes just fine these days. We keep a half gallon pitcher in the fridge in summer, but the water from the tap is cold enough now too. In Barcelona this summer, we got served beers in short wide half liter glasses (as opposed to taller narrow British pint glasses). I liked them so much I brought some home. You can be lazy pouring a bottle of beer into them because you have to try hard to get the head to spill over the rim. They're wonderful to fill from the kitchen faucet and plonk down on the table at dinner time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:54:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13sOuO005517 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:54:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A618B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:53:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RISRC8xd+v/KxjjFwlxHivh8V/cw2Z0j@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13rgT02732 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:53:42 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833592FE3F for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FD12382D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:53:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I hate what's called "sausage" when listed as a pizza ingredient. But >in my experience what's listed as "sausage" isn't pepperoni. Pepperoni >is listed as "pepperoni." It tastes nothing at all to me like the >ingredient named sausage (which I would never order but have on occasion >eaten when with other people who made the decision). > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) How do you feel about linguica? Does it fall into the sausage or non-sausage category for you? Ken Miller Department of Orismology California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 21:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB13u5uO005535 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:56:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF2B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:55:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:55:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TTNRt6AlNtQ8eDlxRDyplayAJXPatMGP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB13tNT03011 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:55:23 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D534D3057A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E772382D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:55:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FC6A202.CCC5A03@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:55:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Why was the chicken under a brick? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Because it was too scared to cross the road. Ken Miller Conundral Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:00:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB140RuO005630 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:00:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61908@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 22:59:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:59:46 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB13xjT03817 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:59:45 -0500 Received: from [68.17.137.93] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:59:40 PST Message-ID: <20031201035940.69926.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:59:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > >Why was the chicken under a brick? > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Because it was too scared to cross the road. Oh, my! Too much turkey? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:05:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1457uO005677 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:05:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A619E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:04:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:04:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XCvYmjaGWsr/fY498ZuXx8njIzI523Ih@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB144NT05154 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:04:24 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9C7305EF for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC6C2382E for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:04:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hi Clyde... I heard Paul Prudhomme talk about de-boning a chicken, duck, >and turkey... to construct a would-be turduckin... How to de-bone??? Does >it involve machinery??? > >'Happy feasting... 'Alan Machinery, no. Patience, and skill, and an intimate knowledge of poultry anatomy, and some very, very sharp knives, yes. Ken Miller Trimalchian Institute of Culinary Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:08:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB148xuO005738 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FF454@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:08:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fj6asL6Md6Iw3zYKXc29XvpnxxZNG8fg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB148FT05823 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:08:15 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF09B3057A for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45A2382D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:08:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> References: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:08:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Turducken... I had no idea you were an NPR listener, Alan! Despite the fact that numerous times over the years he's mentioned items that he heard on NPR? Despite his critique of Linda Wertheimer's voice? >I heard the >same thing--I liked that piece a lot. > >Karen On the other hand, maybe he was watching Monday Night Football. John Madden's been serving Turducken for years -- back when he used to announce Thanksgiving Day games, he would hand the six legs to those he regarded as the top players. Ken Miller Samant Institute for Avian Acephalary Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:10:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB14ATuO005743 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:10:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF489@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:09:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:09:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jldLBQBMXprR7wTgo2B/wwIOdCk5aEmx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB149jT06117 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:09:46 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6475530129 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E0A2382D for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:09:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127183723.00b4ece8@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:09:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I used to make sausage balls for my pizza by mixing fresh herbs and garlic >with fresh ground pork, then sauteeing them and freezing them until it was >pizza time. > >cwv "Used to"? Why no longer? Less free time? Better choice of prepared ingredients, perhaps? Ken Miller Organoleptics Department California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB14FDuO005815 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:15:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61AFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:14:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:14:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4FcY5qhPO71ybOLHlBq7QITsZrLJpSGW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB14EUT06842 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:14:31 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F05305EF for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8E123349 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:14:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:14:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I think of listening to >NPR as -- as in one of those things most people I know do. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Those are the same "most people" who have been to Europe? Ken Miller Darrell Huff School of Statistical Analysis From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:18:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB14IiuO005871 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61AF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:18:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:18:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB14I1T07135 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:18:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB14HoUh003734 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:17:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:17:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <743702713.20031130221754@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <20031201030225.78685.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031201030225.78685.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: > If I do more than that, I have to >> undo it all because >> I invariably drop or split a stitch. > Did you ever devise the zebra design you were considering? No, I found another pattern that will take care of those urgings, I think. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:22:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB14MguO005916 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:22:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A61B0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:22:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:22:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB14M0T07372 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:22:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB14LpiM023563 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:21:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:21:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1256959297.20031130222156@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Bookrat wrote: >>Turducken... I had no idea you were an NPR listener, Alan! > Despite the fact that numerous times over the years he's mentioned items > that he heard on NPR? I always assumed it was an aberration. This sounds like he really got into it. > Despite his critique of Linda Wertheimer's voice? I have no memory of that. > On the other hand, maybe he was watching Monday Night Football. The part I liked was the people he chose for his potluck, and what they brought. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 22:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB14eHuO006149 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:40:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A61B49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 30 Nov 2003 23:39:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:39:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vjUmlx1QMlerbGIWQ6e1pNgqmL+AD1fi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB14dYT08661 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:39:35 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30386305D6 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A5423346 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031128045631.95435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:39:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:56 PM -0800 11/27/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >And I will add insult to injury (not for the first >time) by saying that NPR has a definite liberal bias, ^^^^^^^ Excuse me, but I think you misspelled the word "moderate". >which please its listeners and "turns off" some of its >potential listeners. And I concur in your assessment. >If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the >affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, >intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. And those fund-raisers are so much worse than those embarrassing, intrusive, and boring advertisments that eat up 20 minutes of every single hour of commercial radio. Right. Ken Miller James G. Blain School of Campaign Cleanliness From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 30 23:16:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB15GguO006763 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:16:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A61CBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 0:16:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:14:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:KCfYTGbI+efjyo68r9LwpapD0R1d2/fq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB158RT11565 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:08:27 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E0A3063B for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AE02382E for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:08:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031201035940.69926.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:08:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:59 PM -0800 11/30/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >Oh, my! Too much turkey? Despite the fact that I spent Thanksgiving with relatives, I had what was mostly a relaxing four days. However, I made the mistake of checking my work email while I was staying at my mother's place. Which is how I discovered that my boss has volunteered me for a project that will probably entail 12-hour days for the next week, not that he knew that. One the one hand, it's a good thing in that I will be able to put a considerable number of feathers in my cap if I can pull it off, which I probably can; on the other hand, it entails 12-hour days for the next week. So I guess I'm in a sort of post-tryptophan pre-adrenaline stupor. I might as well enjoy it while I can. Ken Miller Bunthorne School of Egasiophobia From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABp011686 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62265@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 7:39:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:39:46 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1CdkT30329 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:39:46 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FFA35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 7:39:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:39:46 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:47:36 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >23:06 28.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >>There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting. > >Is there a division between those who hold the knitting needles in what I consider the UK/US-way (point of one needle down, moving the yarn around the tip very much with the finger) and what I consider the normal way (both points up, yarn is held semitight from the last stitch on one needle over the index finger on the left hand (for right handed people) and the right hand needle fishing up trhe next llop from the frre yarn)? > >Espen In America, the "UK/US" way is called "English" and is more commonly taught. Which might explain why there are so few knitters! The way I prefer (your "normal way") is called "continental" or "European" knitting. My mother learned it in a Dr's waiting room from a woman from the Netherlands and taught it to me. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABp011683 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A621C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 6:47:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:47:46 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1BljT06488 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:47:45 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:49:59 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ23WMP; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:49:54 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:47:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 23:06 28.11.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting. Is there a division between those who hold the knitting needles in what I consider the UK/US-way (point of one needle down, moving the yarn around the tip very much with the finger) and what I consider the normal way (both points up, yarn is held semitight from the last stitch on one needle over the index finger on the left hand (for right handed people) and the right hand needle fishing up trhe next llop from the frre yarn)? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABp011685 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A621BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 6:53:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:53:48 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1BqrT06840 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:52:54 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:08 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ23WNJ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:06 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201125238.074710b0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:52:49 +0100 Subject: Re: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] In-Reply-To: <3FC8A937.DBFECC88@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC6BBD5.33F2C6D8@maynor.net> <189772308.20031127213822@WordWrite.com> <3FC6CB7C.578D16B0@maynor.net> <3FC75D47.1030408@swbell.net> <3FC76009.98F324BB@maynor.net> <3FC76096.7080901@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128171837.00bb7d78@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128183346.00bc69c8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128195435.0336ad68@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128202113.03386ea8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031128213939.03386ae8@pop.gwi.net> <1311602185.20031128204643@WordWrite.com> <3FC8133F.2FA5FCF3@maynor.net> <1242431235.20031128214124@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031129045045.00acc850@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC8A937.DBFECC88@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:12 29.11.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Betty wrote: > >> We missed Tony's birthday! Hope it was a good one, Tony. > >Oh dear. A belated HB, Tony! And from me! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABq011683 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A622DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:11:03 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DB2T01283 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:11:02 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 36026100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:11:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCB3DE6.7080209@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:11:02 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Right now I'm on one that fascinates me. It's over 800 >pages and I chose it to see me through a couple of airports >and plane trips and some cold autumn evenings. It is >The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber. >Don't know him, but he writes well and has such a novel >approach. (Well, duh . .) The book talks to you in asides as >it unfolds the story, and it is so clever you just want to elbow >someone and smile. And the story goes on and on, now and then >digressing to follow yet another character down the street >and look into his life. > > > I loved this book for all the same reasons. It isn't often that I get sucked in to a novel from page one. Rita L. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABq011682 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 7:54:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:54:09 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Cs9T31884 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:54:09 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1Cs7Ar009323 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:54:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201075327.00b2da30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 07:54:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Football In-Reply-To: <20031201032408.56194.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FCAB13C.7010607@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I hope they get him, if he will turn the program >around. Something is niggling at the back of my mind >re: a certain prima donna quality about him, though. >Can't put my finger on it. Maybe Dr. V. has more info. Why not drop the Dr. bit. It's sooo Tushar. In any case, his doctorate is not in sports speculation and thus irrelevant in this context. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABp011682 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62186@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 6:31:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:31:10 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1BVAT05304 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:31:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201113105.CBDD1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCB267A.5000501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 05:31:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > How do you feel about linguica? Does it fall into the sausage or > non-sausage category for you? It doesn't fall into any category for me. I've never heard of it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:22:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DMABp011684 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:22:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A621C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 6:52:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:52:32 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1BqVT06809 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:52:32 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:46 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ23WND; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:41 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:52:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:32 29.11.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting. >>Karen > >And I've never checked out any of them. I've decided to make myself a Dale >of Norway sweater. They are elaborate and knit on small needles. I'll I have tried once to stop in Dale to get some coffee and/or a small meal (it is along the road between Bergen and Oslo) but it seems that in general Dale has been closed when I have driven through. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DOmBp011739 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FF9B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 6:33:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:33:32 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1BXWT05411 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:33:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201113327.CBKH1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:33:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCB2708.7050406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 05:33:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <1065184422.20031127213326@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >>Why did you not think Alan was an NPR listener? I think of listening to >>NPR as -- as in one of those things most people I know do. >>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Those are the same "most people" who have been to Europe? ? I don't see how there could not be overlap since "most people I know" means "most people I know" -- if it's "most," then obviously at least a good many of the same people would have to be in both. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DOmBp011741 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FFAA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 7:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:56:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Cu4T32213 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:56:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1Cu2Ar009778 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:56:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201075543.00b55480@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 07:56:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: new refrigerator In-Reply-To: <20031201034518.GA1400@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >You can be lazy >pouring a bottle of beer into them because you have to try hard >to get the head to spill over the rim. Hmmmm. I thought there were other reasons for not wanting a head on ones beer. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DOmBp011742 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FFA95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:05:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:05:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1D5rT00695 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:05:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1D5pAr012740 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:05:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:06:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have tried once to stop in Dale to get some coffee and/or a small meal >(it is along the road between Bergen and Oslo) but it seems that in >general Dale has been closed when I have driven through. >Espen Is Dale pronounced to rhyme with gal or with hail? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DOmBp011740 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FF98E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 6:37:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:37:29 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1BbTT05721 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:37:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.60]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201113724.CBXH1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCB27F5.4020608@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 05:37:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <3FC6C987.5CEF6CED@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > At 8:56 PM -0800 11/27/03, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>And I will add insult to injury (not for the first >>time) by saying that NPR has a definite liberal bias, > > ^^^^^^^ > Excuse me, but I think you misspelled the word "moderate". Speaking of blogging, which we were briefly yesterday, I remember that one of my very first blog entries was about the conservative bias of NPR. Iirc, my comment in the blog was that I had not heard the particular incidents mentioned in the editorial -- iow, I wasn't doing the labeling of NPR myself. The editorial was about NPR's coverage of some of the war goings-on and about how it had become just as much a Republican propaganda machine as CNN and Fox. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:46:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DkrBp012055 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:46:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62395@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:46:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:46:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Dk3T04975 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:46:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DjQsb029863 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:45:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:46:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > Is there a division between those who hold the knitting needles in > what I consider the UK/US-way (point of one needle down, moving the > yarn around the tip very much with the finger) and what I consider > the normal way (both points up, yarn is held semitight from the last > stitch on one needle over the index finger on the left hand (for > right handed people) and the right hand needle fishing up trhe next > llop from the frre yarn)? The current discussion calls the former 'throwers' (as in throwing the yarn over the needles) and the latter 'pickers'. I don't know anyone who knits with the needles down, btw--you can 'throw' with needles up. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:49:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Dn2Bp012078 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:49:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62380@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:48:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:48:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DmGT05226 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:48:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DmBUh004259 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:48:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:48:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1456851988.20031201074818@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > I have tried once to stop in Dale to get some coffee and/or a small > meal (it is along the road between Bergen and Oslo) but it seems > that in general Dale has been closed when I have driven through. DUH!!!! My grad school roommate was named Dalen; I guess that there was a reason for it. (She was Canadian.) It never occurred to me that Dale was a place. Bonnie, do Americans pronounce this Dale as one or two syllables? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:51:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DpuBp012131 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:51:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62395@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:51:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DpAT05850 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DooiM014610 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:51:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:50:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <538695599.20031201075055@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > In America, the "UK/US" way is called "English" and is more commonly taught. > Which might explain why there are so few knitters! There are TONS of knitters. 686 Yahoo groups is not a small number. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:52:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DqiBp012137 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:52:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FFC24@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:51:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:58 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DpvT05950 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1DpuGn036404 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:52:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <1456851988.20031201074818@WordWrite.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bonnie, do Americans pronounce this Dale as one or two syllables? >Karen, practicing fierce optimism I don't know. Being a recluse, I've never heard anyone pronounce out. What are you being fiercely optimistic about? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:52:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DqjBp012140 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:52:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FFC29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:51:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DpxT05959 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:51:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DpMsb003959 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:51:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:52:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <862813808.20031201075205@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I have tried once to stop in Dale to get some coffee and/or a small meal >>(it is along the road between Bergen and Oslo) but it seems that in >>general Dale has been closed when I have driven through. >>Espen > Is Dale pronounced to rhyme with gal or with hail? I would expect it to be two syllables, with the 'a' as in 'father'. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DsoBp012162 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:54:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A623C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:54:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:54:04 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Ds4T06463 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:54:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1Ds2Gn037395 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:54:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:54:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <538695599.20031201075055@WordWrite.com> References: <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There are TONS of knitters. 686 Yahoo groups is not a small number. >Karen, There was an article in the Boston Globe about knitting making a comeback among young women. Evidently, stitch'n'bitches are quite common now. They showed a picture of one group that met in a Boston bar. I'm doing my part. I taught the young daughter of an Inn owner how to knit this summer. She loves it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:56:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DuNBp012180 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:56:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A623D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:55:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:37 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DtbT06791 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:37 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1DtZAr033604 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085505.00ba94b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:55:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <862813808.20031201075205@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Is Dale pronounced to rhyme with gal or with hail? > >I would expect it to be two syllables, with the 'a' as in 'father'. >Karen, What's the second syllable? As in Porshe? Or just e as in eeeeek. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:56:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DuQBp012183 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:56:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A623B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:55:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DteT06797 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DtQiM018093 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:55:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:55:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <323653431.20031201075533@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I don't know. Being a recluse, I've never heard anyone pronounce > out. Oh, I thought you talked about this with someone who recommended the fabulous store in Bath. > What are you being fiercely optimistic about? EVERYTHING!!!!!! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:58:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Dw8Bp012199 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:58:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A623DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:57:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:57:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DvMT07256 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:57:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DvBUh010644 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:57:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:57:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1336561511.20031201075718@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: > There was an article in the Boston Globe about knitting making a comeback > among young women. They aren't using acrylic yarn, either. > Evidently, stitch'n'bitches are quite common now. God, I loathe this term. > I taught the young daughter of an Inn owner how to knit this > summer. She loves it. English or Continental? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:58:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DwcBp012212 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:58:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A623E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:57:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:57:52 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DvoT07322 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:57:50 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1DvmGn039034 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:57:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085711.00b47388@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:58:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <323653431.20031201075533@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Oh, I thought you talked about this with someone who recommended the >fabulous store in Bath. I talked with her about the wonderful sweater she saw there that she wants me to knit for her. It is not Dale of Norway. > > What are you being fiercely optimistic about? >EVERYTHING!!!!!! >Karen, Well, good for you. You go girrrl. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 07:59:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1DxLBp012220 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:59:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A623D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 8:58:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:58:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1DwYT07483 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:58:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1DwMiM020507 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:58:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:58:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1933665349.20031201075829@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085505.00ba94b0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085505.00ba94b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Is Dale pronounced to rhyme with gal or with hail? >> >>I would expect it to be two syllables, with the 'a' as in 'father'. >>Karen, > What's the second syllable? As in Porshe? Or just e as in eeeeek. Porsche. I think it's 'e' as in 'pet'. Is English the only lg that has a long eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek? It's the only one I know, I think. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1E1lBp012286 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:01:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A623FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:01:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:01:01 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1E11T07922 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:01:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-58.gwi.net [216.195.152.58]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1E0xAr035654 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:01:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:01:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <1336561511.20031201075718@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I taught the young daughter of an Inn owner how to knit this > > summer. She loves it. > >English or Continental? >Karen, practicing fierce optimism That's a good question. I taught her English but, for completeness sake, I told her about Continental and showed her sort of how to do that. I can't really do it myself. She found a book and taught herself the Continental way. She's making a hat out of round size nine needles that I loaned her and from a book I loaned her with good bulky Norwegian yarn that Alyce sent me. I gave her two of the ten or so skeins. The hat is turning out beautifully. She went and bought a contrast color of the same kind of yarn to make stripes in the hat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:05:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1E5gBp012331 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:05:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A623FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:04:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:04:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1E4tT08309 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:04:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1E4iiM026022 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:04:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:04:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <504036112.20031201080450@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085711.00b47388@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085711.00b47388@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I talked with her about the wonderful sweater she saw there that she wants > me to knit for her. It is not Dale of Norway. Ah. Well, my impression is that most Americans say 'Dale' to rhyme with 'vale', but I can ask tonight, if you like. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:06:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1E6TBp012337 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:06:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FFC62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:05:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:05:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1E5hT08615 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:05:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1E56sb015307 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:05:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:05:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <717172105.20031201080549@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: > That's a good question. I taught her English but, for completeness sake, I > told her about Continental and showed her sort of how to do that. I can't > really do it myself. She found a book and taught herself the Continental > way. She's making a hat out of round size nine needles that I loaned her > and from a book I loaned her with good bulky Norwegian yarn that Alyce sent > me. I gave her two of the ten or so skeins. The hat is turning out > beautifully. She went and bought a contrast color of the same kind of yarn > to make stripes in the hat. Cool. So she likes Continental better? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:14:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EEHBp012483 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:14:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6243D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:13:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:13:31 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EDVT09773 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:13:31 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:15:11 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ23XYN; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:15:08 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201151211.0276bba0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:12:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:06 01.12.2003 -0500 skrev bonniev: >>I have tried once to stop in Dale to get some coffee and/or a small meal >>(it is along the road between Bergen and Oslo) but it seems that in >>general Dale has been closed when I have driven through. >>Espen > >Is Dale pronounced to rhyme with gal or with hail? Neither. Dale is pronounced as it would be in German. (The final -e is not silent) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:14:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EEmBp012492 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:14:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62447@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:14:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:14:02 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EE1T09849 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:14:01 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:16:15 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ23XZB; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:16:11 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031201151330.0276ba58@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:13:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <862813808.20031201075205@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201080528.00b49158@pop.gwi.net> <862813808.20031201075205@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 07:52 01.12.2003 -0600 skrev Karen Kay: >On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>I have tried once to stop in Dale to get some coffee and/or a small meal >>>(it is along the road between Bergen and Oslo) but it seems that in >>>general Dale has been closed when I have driven through. >>>Espen > >> Is Dale pronounced to rhyme with gal or with hail? > >I would expect it to be two syllables, with the 'a' as in 'father'. Bingo. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:39:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EdHBp012851 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:39:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FFD87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EcVT13436 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1EcTAr052307 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093834.00b44c98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:38:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <504036112.20031201080450@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085711.00b47388@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031129082747.00b30448@pop.gwi.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124825.07471340@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085109.00ba3998@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085711.00b47388@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, my impression is that most Americans say 'Dale' to rhyme with >'vale', but I can ask tonight, if you like. >Karen, Yes, please. Thank you. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:39:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EdSBp012857 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:39:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A624D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:38:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:42 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EcfT13465 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:41 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1EcbGr060886; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201090934.00b1ae28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: pepperoni and sausage and pizza, oh my... In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031127183723.00b4ece8@pop.gwi.net> <3FC681DE.71150E8@maynor.net> <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:09 PM 11/30/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >I used to make sausage balls for my pizza by mixing fresh herbs and garlic > >with fresh ground pork, then sauteeing them and freezing them until it was > >pizza time. > > > >cwv > >"Used to"? Why no longer? > >Less free time? Better choice of prepared ingredients, perhaps? Certainly not less free time. My pizzas are tending to the minalist approach---significantly less cheese and meat---partly because our tastes have changed, partly because it behooves me to better control my cholesterol intake. These days, my pizza is a whole-wheat blend crust;olive oil; garlic; herbs; fresh and sun-dried tomatoes; a smattering of peppers (poblano, Fresno, Anaheim, if I have them); a bit of Stilton, crumbled; pepperoni (but much less than formerly);and a dusting of good Parmesan. I keep a supply of prepared sausages in the freezer (Andouille, chorizo, chaurice, loukaniko) that I use to flavor rice and bean dishes, soups, chowders, and pasta sauces. There is an excellent sausage maker in southern Maine---he uses no meat by-products and his sausage (fresh or smoked) contains 20% or less fat. He also uses about the thinnest casings I've ever seen, so it's easy to separate the casing from the sausage. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EerBp012875 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:40:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FFD94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:40:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:40:01 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Ee0T13732 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:40:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1EdnGn061634 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:39:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:40:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <717172105.20031201080549@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Cool. So she likes Continental better? >Karen, I'm not sure she really gave each kind a long try. Perhaps one of her friends told her Continental was better. I'm glad that she learned it from the start. Her knitting is very even. Quite nice. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:46:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EkjBp012953 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:46:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.001FFDD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:45:58 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EjvT14929 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:45:57 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1EjlGt064520; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:45:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201094127.00b589e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:45:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:04 PM 11/30/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >Hi Clyde... I heard Paul Prudhomme talk about de-boning a chicken, duck, > >and turkey... to construct a would-be turduckin... How to de-bone??? Does > >it involve machinery??? > > > >'Happy feasting... 'Alan > >Machinery, no. Patience, and skill, and an intimate knowledge of poultry >anatomy, and some very, very sharp knives, yes. I forgot to mention the other day about an article in one of the papers---Portland or Boston---about a surgeon who does boneless turkey for Thanksgiving. He uses (what else?) a scalpel. He even sews it with surgical silk. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:50:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EoEBp013006 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:50:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A624EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:38:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EchT13475 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1EcbGt060886; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:38:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:38:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCB267A.5000501@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:31 AM 12/1/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Bookrat wrote: > >>How do you feel about linguica? Does it fall into the sausage or >>non-sausage category for you? > >It doesn't fall into any category for me. I've never heard of it. It is a fairly dense, spicy, cured pork sausage---a Portugese recipe. If you like Andouille and chorizo, you'll like linguica. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:50:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EoEBp013007 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:50:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6253F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:45:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:45:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EjsT14921 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:45:54 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1EjlGr064520; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:45:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093927.00b45d58@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:39:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: <3FC6A202.CCC5A03@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:55 PM 11/30/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >Why was the chicken under a brick? > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Because it was too scared to cross the road. ;--] From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:55:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EtIBp013100 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A625EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:54:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:54:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EsVT16825 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:54:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1EsPiM012212 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:54:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:54:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <227970273.20031201085432@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I'm not sure she really gave each kind a long try. Perhaps one of her > friends told her Continental was better. I'm glad that she learned it from > the start. Her knitting is very even. Quite nice. I've discovered that the real test is not knitting, but ribbing; my k1 p1 ribbing sucks. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:56:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EulBp013117 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A625F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:56:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:55:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1EtxT17163 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:55:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1EtMsb004860 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:55:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:56:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1627265806.20031201085604@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: [about linguica] > It is a fairly dense, spicy, cured pork sausage---a Portugese recipe. If > you like Andouille and chorizo, you'll like linguica. It's very good on pizza. One of the BA pizzerias used to offer linguica. There's a Chinese sausage that's quite good, but the name escapes me at the moment. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 08:56:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1EuqBp013122 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:56:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.001FFEB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 9:56:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:56:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Eu4T17205 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:56:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1Eu0Ar061961 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:56:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201095554.00bcb718@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:56:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <227970273.20031201085432@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've discovered that the real test is not knitting, but ribbing; my k1 >p1 ribbing sucks. > >Karen, practicing fierce optimism Interesting. She's just coming to that part of the hat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:01:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1F1dBp013192 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:01:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1F0qT19159 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1F0Fsb010896 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:00:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:00:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1476919557.20031201090056@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201095554.00bcb718@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312011239.hB1CdkT30329@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085250.00b513f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201085834.00b57280@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093859.08350d58@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201095554.00bcb718@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I've discovered that the real test is not knitting, but ribbing; my k1 >>p1 ribbing sucks. >> >>Karen, practicing fierce optimism > Interesting. She's just coming to that part of the hat. I can do k2 p2 ribbing okay, it's just the 1x1. Evidently I don't pull tight enough when I purl. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:09:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1F8xBp013319 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62687@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1F8DT20902 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FFEE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200312011508.hB1F8DT20902@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:40:10 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Cool. So she likes Continental better? >>Karen, > >I'm not sure she really gave each kind a long try. Perhaps one of her >friends told her Continental was better. I'm glad that she learned it from >the start. Her knitting is very even. Quite nice. > > >bonnie Yep, that's one of the reasons I prefer Continental. It's easy to control tension and knit either tight or loose consistently, by choice. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:11:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FBrBp013390 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:11:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62682@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:11:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:11:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FB5T21505 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:11:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1FASsb022297 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:10:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:11:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1548415831.20031201091111@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312011508.hB1F8DT20902@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312011508.hB1F8DT20902@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yep, that's one of the reasons I prefer Continental. It's easy to control > tension and knit either tight or loose consistently, by choice. So you think that English knitters leave it to chance?! I do know that I'm not a good Continental knitter, though, because I cannot control tension at all: it's always way too tight. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FDcBp013401 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:13:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A626A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:12:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:12:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FCpT21783 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:12:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB1FCnkF002412 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:12:49 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB1FCnsw002410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:12:49 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:12:49 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: new refrigerator Message-ID: <20031201151249.GA2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201075543.00b55480@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201075543.00b55480@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: = >You can be lazy = >pouring a bottle of beer into them because you have to try hard = >to get the head to spill over the rim. = = Hmmmm. I thought there were other reasons for not wanting a head on ones = beer. = I don't even know what the current wisdom on heads on beers is. Boo? If all I'm doing is pouring the nth beer into a glass, then I'd prefer in my carelessness that it not spill over the top accidentally. This is more to avoid sticky rings than anything else. Besides, this is not being a connoisseur, this is chugging a few back. I have some nice whiskey glasses with lids and everything, but I don't actually like to drink out of them unless I am trying to pay extra special attention to the taste and the smell of it (which I sometimes am). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:33:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FXQBp013857 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:33:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.001FFFF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:32:39 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FWdT25093 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:32:39 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1FWYOb966756 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:32:35 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:32:34 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Me too. I can't stand the relentless boomerism that seems > to come thro' every program. Buncha old farts trying to > sound hip. Yes. I think you've managed to express what I was trying to. -- Richard, hipster wannabe From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FafBp013897 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:36:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62785@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:35:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:35:54 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FZsT25721 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:35:54 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1FZoOb4407534 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:35:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:35:50 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > Maybe she won't leave. I know people who went to Japan for a week and > stayed the rest of their lives. How does that work? Is is easy to immigrate to Japan? That thread on moving to Canada made it sound like quite a chore, and that was, well, Canada. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:41:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FfQBp013953 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:41:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A627CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:40:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:40:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FedT26624 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:40:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1FeXUh022911 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:40:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:40:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > How does that work? Is is easy to immigrate > to Japan? That thread on moving to Canada > made it sound like quite a chore, and that > was, well, Canada. Japan used to be quite easy about allowing people to work there forever. Becoming a citizen is quite difficult, however. You can ask all the Koreans who have been living there for generations without citizenship. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:55:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FtdBp014149 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:55:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6286C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:54:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:54:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FsmT29781 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:54:52 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:54:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77866@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: USB ports? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:54:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 9:16 PM > Both of my USB ports seem to be bad. Is there an inexpensive way to > install new ports? Like, can I just go to Fry's and buy a USB port or > two? Sorry for joining late - I've already read the subsequent responses & the envitable diversion of the thread. Fried two USB ports? That's rather odd. Do you remember doing anything? Nephew playing with a paperclip? You can do one of several things. You could take it to one of the stores which makes repairs for people - mildly risky as you don't know how stringent the hiring practices are to allow someone to open the customers' cases. You could get a 4-way hub and plug it into one of them and see if the "all go" light comes on - the brand I use has a light indicating power & signal strength and there's a toggle switch indicating whether it should use the power coming in from the system or from an external power source. As far as the PCI route, here's what they look like: http://emicrox.com [1] under quick search, enter: CTRAS100 or CTRDL110 then click GO if you click the appropriate link at either screen, you'll see the PCI card with two USB slots. I know PCI cards are made with more than two - I believe you can get four or five as well. There is another solution as well: forward USB. Most current motherboards (and some older ones, depending upon how forward thinking the company was) have pins on them to support additional USB ports, specifically for the forward location. The reason for this is you can purchase a special tray which can hold a small 3 1/2" floppy drive plus two USB ports - very handy for when you don't want to deal with the plugs anywhere else. Then it's a matter of plugging the cable into the correct location on the mobo and the front ports and you've got two new ports. It's not difficult, but I'd advise caution as you're not dealing with a USB port any more, but the replacement of a mobo if you hose things up. The risk is much smaller if you turn off the PC, then unplug the case and let the mobo & components discharge for a few minutes. [1] MicroExpress. It keeps looking as though they change their names on the building. They are about two miles from here. I have fondly labelled them "The Russians" as anyone walking in to purchase anything will notice a very distinctive thick language floating about. It would appear others have taken to that name as it's now used quite a bit [locally]. Even if you don't build your own machines from scratch (or buy a prebuilt one then replace|upgrade as you choose until it's completely your own), they have pretty good prices. Better than CompUSA, BestBuy, etc. I would suggest, however, that if you want to check for the nadir of prices, you check there, http://www.pricewatch.com, and http://froogle.google.com. PriceWatch entries must pay to be there so they cannot afford to provide poor service. Froogle (think "frugal") is one of Google's latest "in test" systems for shopping the web for prices. It's *very* interesting. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 09:58:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1FwjBp014176 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:58:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:57:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:57:58 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1FvvT30380 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:57:58 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB1FvukF002516 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:57:56 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB1Fvtr0002514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:57:55 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:57:55 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031201155755.GB2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201094127.00b589e8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201094127.00b589e8@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = I forgot to mention the other day about an article in one of the = papers---Portland or Boston---about a surgeon who does boneless turkey for = Thanksgiving. He uses (what else?) a scalpel. He even sews it with = surgical silk. = = cwv Yeah, in my family when we had any dinner with my grandfather the surgeon, he was the only one allowed to wield the big knife. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:09:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1G9kBp014329 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:09:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00200166@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1G8xT32303 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:08:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1G8oUh024590 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:08:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13210671808.20031201100857@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77866@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77866@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Fried two USB ports? That's rather odd. One got bent. The other one, I dunno, but my scanner didn't work plugged into it. > Do you remember doing anything? > Nephew playing with a paperclip? No. > You could get a 4-way hub and plug it into one of them and see if > the "all go" light comes on - the brand I use has a light indicating power & > signal strength and there's a toggle switch indicating whether it should use > the power coming in from the system or from an external power source. I have a hub, but not as fancy as that; it just has a power light. > As far as the PCI route, here's what they look like: I already put one in, thanks. > There is another solution as well: forward USB. My next computer will have this. My current problem, which is apparently quite serious, is that I can't install my mp3 player. I have two different cables for it, so I suspect it's not the cable, the USB ports work. But for some reason, I can't seem to get Windows to find the drivers. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GGCBp014451 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:16:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020018D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:15:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:15:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GFOT01897 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:15:24 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB1GFMkF002546 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:15:22 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB1GFMuO002544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:15:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:15:21 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India Message-ID: <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: = > Maybe she won't leave. I know people who went to Japan for a week and = > stayed the rest of their lives. = = How does that work? Is is easy to immigrate = to Japan? That thread on moving to Canada = made it sound like quite a chore, and that = was, well, Canada. = It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for permission to stay from your usual place of residence. It's pretty much a chore to move to any country, and the rules change frequently. When we moved here, even though we knew we were going to stay, we came in on a tourist visa, and arranged all the details after the fact. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:21:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GLfBp014575 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:21:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:53 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GKqT02995 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:53 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:47 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: USB ports? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:09 AM > My current problem, which is apparently quite serious, is that I can't > install my mp3 player. I have two different cables for it, so I > suspect it's not the cable, the USB ports work. But for some reason, I > can't seem to get Windows to find the drivers. Which version of Windows? Unplug the cables, then go in and undo any information you can find relating to that MP3 player - driver files, control panel hardware|software, etc. I've even gone into the registry on tough cases. Scrub the machine without going overboard then shut down the machine, plug in the MP3 player, and see what comes up during the boot. Microsoft always says to "install the software first". (Microsoft has already stated in the news their next goal is to sell a machine (and software) for every car in the world. That'll bring a whole new meaning to "Windows just crashed." And: "The day Microsoft makes something which doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners") Back to your problem. It's more difficult to diagnose remote, but typically the trick is to get your machine to see it as though your machine is a virgin and has never seen it before. Then it should try to install drivers fitting the new piece of hardware. If you get past that and it doesn't work, you could go (Start | Settings | Control Panel | System | Device Manager) then bring up the piece of hardware in question right-click to tell it you want to update the driver, and it should go through the same paces as during bootup - CD first, etc. etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:26:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GQYBp014660 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:26:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6296E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:25:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:25:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GPcT03710 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:25:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1GP1sb021323 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:25:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:25:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <688644099.20031201102544@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Which version of Windows? 2000 > Unplug the cables, then go in and undo any information you can find relating > to that MP3 player - driver files, control panel hardware|software, etc. > I've even gone into the registry on tough cases. Scrub the machine without > going overboard then shut down the machine, plug in the MP3 player, and see > what comes up during the boot. Microsoft always says to "install the > software first". Done. There is no software, only drivers, which MS can't find, even though I tell it where to look. It doesn't seem to be able to read the .inf file correctly, or something. > It's more difficult to diagnose remote, but typically the trick is to get > your machine to see it as though your machine is a virgin and has never seen > it before. Indeed. > Then it should try to install drivers fitting the new piece of > hardware. If you get past that and it doesn't work, you could go (Start | > Settings | Control Panel | System | Device Manager) then bring up the piece > of hardware in question right-click to tell it you want to update the > driver, and it should go through the same paces as during bootup - CD first, > etc. etc. Exactly. Ad nauseam. Can't find the driver... Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:30:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GUgBp014718 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:30:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A629A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:29:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:29:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GTtT04581 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:29:55 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:29:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: USB ports? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:29:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:26 AM > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > Which version of Windows? > > Exactly. Ad nauseam. Can't find the driver... What files are on the CD|diskette|etc.? What's the name of your device? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GXZBp014751 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:33:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A629A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:32:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:32:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GWlT05166 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:32:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1GWYiM002043 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:32:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:32:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1052336405.20031201103242@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [spam] Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:26 AM >> On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> > Which version of Windows? >> >> Exactly. Ad nauseam. Can't find the driver... > What files are on the CD|diskette|etc.? RioUSB.inf, RioUSB.sys > What's the name of your device? Rio 500--it's not made or supported any more, but these drivers are available on the Internet and seem to work for everyone else. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:43:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GhNBp014926 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:43:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002002A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:42:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:42:36 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GgVT07377 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:42:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: [spam] Re: USB ports? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:42:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:33 AM > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:26 AM > > >> On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> > Which version of Windows? > >> > >> Exactly. Ad nauseam. Can't find the driver... > > > What files are on the CD|diskette|etc.? > > RioUSB.inf, RioUSB.sys > > > What's the name of your device? > > Rio 500--it's not made or supported any more, but these drivers are > available on the Internet and seem to work for everyone else. I'm not familiar with it at all, but it's a sister company. http://www.dm-holdings.com/index.jsp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:48:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GmOBp014981 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:48:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62A63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:47:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GlaT08269 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:47:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB1GlW2d019835 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:47:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3b82a$e2126760$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201094127.00b589e8@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:48:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 08:04 PM 11/30/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > > >Hi Clyde... I heard Paul Prudhomme talk about de-boning a chicken, duck, > > >and turkey... to construct a would-be turduckin... How to de-bone??? Does > > >it involve machinery??? > > > > > >'Happy feasting... 'Alan > > > >Machinery, no. Patience, and skill, and an intimate knowledge of poultry > >anatomy, and some very, very sharp knives, yes. > > I forgot to mention the other day about an article in one of the > papers---Portland or Boston---about a surgeon who does boneless turkey for > Thanksgiving. He uses (what else?) a scalpel. He even sews it with > surgical silk. > > cwv Does he baste it with a drip line? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 10:48:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1GmeBp014985 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:48:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62A53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 20072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1GlqT08300 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:47:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1GlDsb020225 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:47:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:47:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1351473772.20031201104756@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: [spam] Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I'm not familiar with it at all, but it's a sister company. > http://www.dm-holdings.com/index.jsp They don't even provide drivers for the older models. At one point they were bought by S3, but I haven't followed the ins and outs. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:08:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1H87Bp015311 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:08:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62B38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:20 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1H7ET12499 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:07 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: [spam] Re: USB ports? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:07:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:48 AM > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > I'm not familiar with it at all, but it's a sister company. > > > http://www.dm-holdings.com/index.jsp > > They don't even provide drivers for the older models. > > At one point they were bought by S3, but I haven't followed the ins > and outs. S3? I know Rio is a sister company at this moment, just as ReplayTV is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1H9fBp015365 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:09:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00200396@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:08:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:08:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1H8rT12721 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:08:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1H8Fsb018129 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:08:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:08:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1521830971.20031201110859@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: [spam] Re: USB ports? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7786F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:48 AM >> On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> > I'm not familiar with it at all, but it's a sister company. >> >> > http://www.dm-holdings.com/index.jsp >> >> They don't even provide drivers for the older models. >> >> At one point they were bought by S3, but I haven't followed the ins >> and outs. > S3? They make modems, among other things. I used to go past their building in Sunnyvale on my way to the movies. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1H9jBp015368 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:09:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62B48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:08:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:08:58 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1H8vT12737 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:08:57 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB1H6j2d022541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:06:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b82d$9103f2a0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1517682758.20031128222616@WordWrite.com> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCB3DE6.7080209@bc.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:07:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >Right now I'm on one that fascinates me. It's over 800 > >pages and I chose it to see me through a couple of airports > >and plane trips and some cold autumn evenings. It is > >The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber. > >Don't know him, but he writes well and has such a novel > >approach. (Well, duh . .) The book talks to you in asides as > >it unfolds the story, and it is so clever you just want to elbow > >someone and smile. And the story goes on and on, now and then > >digressing to follow yet another character down the street > >and look into his life. > > > > > > > I loved this book for all the same reasons. It isn't often that I get > sucked in to a novel from page one. > > Rita L. Wow. I just looked it up on Amazon. I paid $15 in a bookstore and Amazon has it for $9, and new/slightly used for $5 something. Also read reviews here and see I'm in for a disappointing ending. Oh well, it's going well so far, half through. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:15:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HFgBp015517 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:15:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62B5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:14:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:14:55 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HEsT13699 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:14:55 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 38660726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCB770E.5080109@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:14:54 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC8889F.A0994D4D@maynor.net> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCB3DE6.7080209@bc.edu> <000401c3b82d$9103f2a0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000401c3b82d$9103f2a0$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > >Also read reviews here and >see I'm in for a disappointing ending. Oh well, it's >going well so far, half through. > > - D. M. > > That, of course, depends on the expectations that you build as you read. :-) Rita L. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:18:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HIWBp015571 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002003DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:17:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:17:45 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HHiT14355 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:17:44 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB1HHeAt034296; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:17:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201121335.00b52c90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:14:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <000601c3b82a$e2126760$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <001601c3b55b$490806a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127200033.00b480a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127202813.00b53398@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031127205621.00b34328@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201094127.00b589e8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:48 AM 12/1/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > cwv > >Does he baste it with a drip line? The article was silent on that point. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HMMBp015664 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:22:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62B97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:34 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HLYT14890 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:34 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP8005A287XKG@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:17:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:17:24 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: pepperoni and sausage and pizza, oh my... To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2d86bf2d7bbf.2d7bbf2d86bf@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Certainly not less free time. My pizzas are tending to the minalist > approach---significantly less cheese and meat---partly because our > tasteshave changed, partly because it behooves me to better > control my > cholesterol intake. These days, my pizza is a whole-wheat blend > crust;olive oil; garlic; herbs; fresh and sun-dried tomatoes; a > smatteringof peppers (poblano, Fresno, Anaheim, if I have them); a > bit of Stilton, > crumbled; pepperoni (but much less than formerly);and a dusting of > goodParmesan. My pizzas are usually a Boboli crust topped with a layer of marinara sauce a three cheese packaged pizza blend, pepperoni, thinly sliced red onion and fresh basil. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:22:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HMkBp015669 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:22:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002003FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HLwT14972 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1HLjUh020682 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:21:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:21:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1092564796.20031201112152@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Clue for Bonnie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Patricia, one of the Monday Night Knitters who has been knitting her whole life, says that Americans pronounce it to rhyme with vale. I trust her completely. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:26:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HQABp015746 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:26:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62BCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:25:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:25:21 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HPKT15480 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:25:20 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP800B8Q8E4YY@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:21:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:21:09 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2e19fc2de112.2de1122e19fc@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Emily and I ate there - the year the red cat opened. The food > and the place were both terrific. Time for a repeat visit. I agree. But then again, now there are the other Jimmy Bradley restaurants as well. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HRnBp015773 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:27:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62BE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:27:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:27:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HR0T15794 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:27:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:26:54 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77871@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:26:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:07 PM > > >Right now I'm on one that fascinates me. It's over 800 > > >pages and I chose it to see me through a couple of airports > > >and plane trips and some cold autumn evenings. It is > > >The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber. > > >Don't know him, but he writes well and has such a novel > > >approach. (Well, duh . .) The book talks to you in asides as > > >it unfolds the story, and it is so clever you just want to elbow > > >someone and smile. And the story goes on and on, now and then > > >digressing to follow yet another character down the street > > >and look into his life. > > > > > > > > > > > I loved this book for all the same reasons. It isn't often > that I get > > sucked in to a novel from page one. > > > > Rita L. > Wow. I just looked it up on Amazon. I paid $15 in a > bookstore and Amazon has it for $9, and new/slightly > used for $5 something. Also read reviews here and > see I'm in for a disappointing ending. Oh well, it's > going well so far, half through. http://tinyurl.com/x85c http://tinyurl.com/x85n http://tinyurl.com/x879 The first two are book shopping 'bots, the 3rd is froogle (the general 'bot I've mentioned before). There's no point in manual shopping for comparisons any more. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:28:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HS6Bp015779 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:28:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00200436@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HRIT15879 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP8002QL8HHCD@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:23:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:23:08 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <29cbc729d434.29d43429cbc7@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor > Lynne Weber wrote: > > It's terrific. To me, it was always the best food > > part of Thanksgiving. > > I've always liked turkey sandwiches. That is my regular travel food > when driving -- stopping at Subways and getting turkey sandwiches. > But > I had never thought before about a turkey-and-dressing sandwich. I'm reading upside down, but for me its a turkey and stuffing AND cranberry sauce sandwich. Yum. Although just now I had just mayo. My grilled turkey turned out even better, juicier, than last year's. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:32:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HWOBp015852 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:32:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:31:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:31:37 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB1HVaT16743 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:31:36 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:31:23 PST Message-ID: <20031201173123.87781.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:31:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > At 8:56 PM -0800 11/27/03, Lynne Weber wrote: > >And I will add insult to injury (not for the first > >time) by saying that NPR has a definite liberal > bias, > ^^^^^^^ > Excuse me, but I think you misspelled the word > "moderate". Can moderation or subjectivity be a bias? > > >which please its listeners and "turns off" some of > its > >potential listeners. > > And I concur in your assessment. The assessment, but not the modifier? > > >If MOST people did listen and appreciate NPR, the > >affiliates wouldn't have to run those embarrassing, > >intrusive, and boring fund raisers twice a year. > > And those fund-raisers are so much worse than those > embarrassing, > intrusive, and boring advertisements that eat up 20 > minutes of every single > hour of commercial radio. Right. Try watching or listening to Public Radio and TV fund raisers in Alabama. Paid commercials can be entertaining. Fund-raising in AL is not. > > Ken Miller > James G. Blain School of Campaign Cleanliness __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:37:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HbUBp015905 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:37:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62C48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HafT17977 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:36 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77872@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Rio 500 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:36:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://tinyurl.com/x89c Have you taken a jaunt through DejaGoogle? There are obviously some which don't fit but some looked interesting. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:38:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Hc0Bp015916 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:38:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62C50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:37:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:37:13 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HbCT18173 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:37:12 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 38662484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:37:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCB7C47.2060402@bc.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:37:11 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pepperoni and sausage and pizza, oh my... References: <2d86bf2d7bbf.2d7bbf2d86bf@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <2d86bf2d7bbf.2d7bbf2d86bf@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >My pizzas are usually a Boboli crust topped with a layer of marinara sauce a three cheese packaged pizza blend, pepperoni, thinly sliced red onion and fresh basil. > >Marie > > Boboli crust topped with Bertoli olive oil and garlic sauce, fresh mozzarella and fresh basil...grilled. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:44:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HipBp016006 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:44:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62C8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:44:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:43:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1HhuT19422 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:43:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1HhIsb028210 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:43:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:44:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <646050835.20031201114401@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rio 500 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77872@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77872@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/x89c > Have you taken a jaunt through DejaGoogle? How do you think I got the drivers to start with? But I did actually put 'driver' in the search criteria, so I guess that's why it was more focused. > There are obviously some which don't fit but some looked interesting. Tell me which ones are interesting. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 11:55:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1HtvBp016240 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:55:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62CE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:09 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Ht9T21418 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62CED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200312011755.hB1Ht9T21418@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:55:09 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:11:11 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Yep, that's one of the reasons I prefer Continental. It's easy to control >> tension and knit either tight or loose consistently, by choice. Not at all! I think that it's easier to control tension with the needle pulling the yarn through the loop, rather than wrapping yarn around the needle with the opposite hand. > >So you think that English knitters leave it to chance?! Nope. I think when I knit English style, I have to take tight or loose knitting as my hands deal it out that day. But when I knit in Continental style, I can choose whether to knit relatively loosely or relatively tightly, and the knitting will continue that way and be a nice consistent tension throughout. >I do know that I'm not a good Continental knitter, though, because I >cannot control tension at all: it's always way too tight. I can't remember if you crochet? I use the finger wrap I was taught at 8 when I learned to crochet, to control tension. If I am knitting too tightly, I pull the needle slightly farther as it comes through the loop, enlarging the stitch. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1I3UBp016403 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:03:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62D2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:02:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:02:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1I2fT23144 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:02:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77873@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Rio 500 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:02:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:44 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Rio 500 > > > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/x89c > > > Have you taken a jaunt through DejaGoogle? > > How do you think I got the drivers to start with? But I did actually > put 'driver' in the search criteria, so I guess that's why it was more > focused. > > > There are obviously some which don't fit but some looked > interesting. > > Tell me which ones are interesting. Also, consider posting to usenet. The only way I do it is via a throwaway. Interestingly, spammers (or their ilk) seem to have grown less fond to harvest email addresses from usenet. The throwaways I use are going without months without ever receiving any spam. ======================================== ======================================== Re: Rio 500 using XP Pro microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware - Feb 11, 2002 by Scott Hembrough - View Thread (3 articles ======================================== Re: can't use Rio 500 with XP I got my Rio 500 to work just fine under Windows XP. I just downloaded the latest Rioport software and the drivers for Windows 2000. ... microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware - Nov 27, 2001 by matt - View Thread (14 articles) ======================================== Re: Rio 500 & Windows XP Bill. Any software that worked under Windows 2000 should work under Windows XP. The RioAudio Manager software from www.rioport.com should be fine. ... alt.music.mp3 - Nov 5, 2001 by Carter Jones - View Thread (2 articles) ======================================== Re: Rio PMP300 + Win2000 + RioPort I have a Diamond Rio 500 and I've tried this program on Win 2K and it only seems ... All I want to do is be able to copy an MP3 into my Rio PMP300 in Windows 2000. ... alt.music.mp3 - Sep 19, 2001 by Joe - View Thread (4 articles) specifically: Subject: Rio PMP300 + Win2000 + RioPort Date: 2001-09-04 17:56:50 PST Can anyone help me? All I want to do is be able to copy an MP3 into my Rio PMP300 in Windows 2000. The supplied software refuses to install in Win2000. People have suggested RioPort to me but for some reason I can't get that to work. Here's what happens. I load up the software, go into options and select PMP300 as the mobile device, connect the device up to my computer's parallel port and click on the copy to device tab. The window just constantly refreshes itself, buttons disappear and reappear and the select tracks from database button is disabled (I have added tracks to the database). Every few seconds the button becomes enabled for a split second so I click it and select some MP3s to add. I then get told there isn't enough room on the device (I only selected 1 3 minute MP3 - a few megabytes). The list which is supposed to show what is currently on the device is empty and the format device button doesn't do anything. In the meantime the device is showing the words NOSONG with a flashing arrow and draining battery power very fast. Help someone! ---------------------------------------- Theres a Proggie out there called Rioshell3.0 that'll do the business for you and works under win2k, mail me if you want me to send u it, its a small file 300k or so. Dave ---------------------------------------- Thanks - this works fine! Seems a little slower at transfer than I remember the other software being but I haven't used it for ages so it might be the same. But at least it works! ======================================== From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:22:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1IMkBp016645 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:22:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A62DA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:21:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:21:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1ILrT26872 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:21:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1ILFsb005473 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:21:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1576514276.20031201122159@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Rio 500 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77873@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77873@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Also, consider posting to usenet. I'll try this later today. > Re: Rio 500 using XP Pro I think you don't understand my problem. These articles are either about getting the Rio to work with XP or about uploading to the Rio. I don't see one about getting the OS to recognize the Rio. I do appreciate your help in thinking about my problem, however. I am enormously frustrated, because I've gone from 2000 to XP back to 2000 with no problem, and all of a sudden, the OS doesn't know my player! I have two of them--neither of them can connect. Karen > microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware - Feb 11, 2002 by Scott Hembrough - View > Thread (3 articles > ======================================== > Re: can't use Rio 500 with XP > I got my Rio 500 to work just fine under Windows XP. I just downloaded > the latest Rioport software and the drivers for Windows 2000. ... > microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware - Nov 27, 2001 by matt - View Thread (14 > articles) > ======================================== > Re: Rio 500 & Windows XP > Bill. Any software that worked under Windows 2000 should work under Windows > XP. The RioAudio Manager software from www.rioport.com should be fine. ... > alt.music.mp3 - Nov 5, 2001 by Carter Jones - View Thread (2 articles) > ======================================== > Re: Rio PMP300 + Win2000 + RioPort > I have a Diamond Rio 500 and I've tried this program on Win 2K and it only > seems ... All > I want to do is be able to copy an MP3 into my Rio PMP300 in Windows 2000. > ... > alt.music.mp3 - Sep 19, 2001 by Joe - View Thread (4 articles) > specifically: > Subject: Rio PMP300 + Win2000 + RioPort > Date: 2001-09-04 17:56:50 PST > Can anyone help me? All I want to do is be able to copy an MP3 into my Rio > PMP300 in Windows 2000. The supplied software refuses to install in Win2000. > People have suggested RioPort to me but for some reason I can't get that to > work. > Here's what happens. I load up the software, go into options and select > PMP300 as the mobile device, connect the device up to my computer's parallel > port and click on the copy to device tab. The window just constantly > refreshes itself, buttons disappear and reappear and the select tracks from > database button is disabled (I have added tracks to the database). Every few > seconds the button becomes enabled for a split second so I click it and > select some MP3s to add. I then get told there isn't enough room on the > device (I only selected 1 3 minute MP3 - a few megabytes). The list which is > supposed to show what is currently on the device is empty and the format > device button doesn't do anything. In the meantime the device is showing the > words NOSONG with a flashing arrow and draining battery power very fast. > Help someone! > ---------------------------------------- > Theres a Proggie out there called Rioshell3.0 that'll do the business > for you and works under win2k, mail me if you want me to send u it, its > a small file 300k or so. > Dave > ---------------------------------------- > Thanks - this works fine! Seems a little slower at transfer than I remember > the other software being but I haven't used it for ages so it might be the > same. But at least it works! > ======================================== From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1IffBp016965 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:41:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62E65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:40:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:40:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1IeqT30237 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:40:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1IeliM012377 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:40:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:40:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <59246412.20031201124055@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312011755.hB1Ht9T21418@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312011755.hB1Ht9T21418@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Not at all! I think that it's easier to control tension with the needle > pulling the yarn through the loop, rather than wrapping yarn around the > needle with the opposite hand. I think the reason it's harder for me is that when I knit English, I control the tension with my right hand, and so when I knit Contintental, I want to control the tension with the hand holding the yarn, but really, the picking hand controls it, too. > Nope. I think when I knit English style, I have to take tight or loose > knitting as my hands deal it out that day. We definitely have different English knitting styles, then. > But when I knit in Continental > style, I can choose whether to knit relatively loosely or relatively > tightly, and the knitting will continue that way and be a nice consistent > tension throughout. I feel that I can choose to knit loosely or tightly either way--except that I haven't quite mastered it in Continental. (But I'm close!) I used to be a very tight knitter, but I spent a lot of time on knitting more loosely, and now I am a relatively loose knitter. >>I do know that I'm not a good Continental knitter, though, because I >>cannot control tension at all: it's always way too tight. > I can't remember if you crochet? I use the finger wrap I was taught at 8 > when I learned to crochet, to control tension. I haven't crocheted for years, but I do wrap the yarn around my fingers--little finger and index. That was one of the first things my fingers remembered when I started knitting again, which was spooky. I still couldn't tell you how I wrap it without having yarn in my hand, but I can't knit without wrapping the yarn. > If I am knitting too > tightly, I pull the needle slightly farther as it comes through the loop, > enlarging the stitch. A veritable clue! I'm going to try this. I prinicipally want a better way to knit ribbing. Better meaning more efficient and less sucky looking when I do 1 x 1. Do English knitters not wrap the yarn? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1IiLBp017019 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:44:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002006A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:43:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:43:33 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB1IhW630770 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:43:32 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:43:21 PST Message-ID: <20031201184321.47138.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:43:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > At 7:59 PM -0800 11/30/03, Lynne Weber wrote: > >Oh, my! Too much turkey? > >> So I guess I'm in a sort of post-tryptophan > pre-adrenaline stupor. I might > as well enjoy it while I can. Long may the cap feathers wave, and happy adrenaline. I like to get projects like that. I am a projectile person. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:45:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1IjDBp017071 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:45:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62E7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:44:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:44:25 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB1IiO630841 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:44:24 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:44:15 PST Message-ID: <20031201184415.91340.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:44:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCB267A.5000501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Bookrat wrote: > > > How do you feel about linguica? Does it fall into > the sausage or > > non-sausage category for you? > > It doesn't fall into any category for me. I've > never heard of it. Portugese sausage, very different and very good. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1In9Bp017104 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:49:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002006BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:48:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:48:20 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB1ImJ631406 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:48:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:48:09 PST Message-ID: <20031201184810.4464.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:48:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCB27F5.4020608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: The editorial was about > NPR's coverage of > some of the war goings-on and about how it had > become just as much a > Republican propaganda machine as CNN and Fox. That must be it. I must be getting an NPR signal being jammed by the DNC. They know how to chose their marks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:50:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Io4Bp017123 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:50:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A62E91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:49:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:49:16 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1InF631546 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:49:15 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP800C42C9ZWN@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:45:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:45:04 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2f1dcf2f345d.2f345d2f1dcf@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My normal choice would be wheat, but I think white is also available. > Are you saying that that is the choice for such a sandwich? Wheat would be my preferred bread for this sandwich. Or white. But in this case, nothing too would be appropriate. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 12:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1IxfBp017289 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:59:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62F15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:58:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:58:43 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Iwg101022 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:58:42 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP8004YOCPSU0@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:58:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:54:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:54:31 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Marie To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2f9dd52f4304.2f43042f9dd5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I made the Party Potatoes to avoid having to deal with last-minute mashing, the Bacon Onion Dip, and the Spicy Maple Walnuts (not very spicy, wouldn't do again) from those books. Glad you like them, Betty. I didn't get the latest one yet -- it'll be on my Christmas list. My sister brought the candied yams, but I'll take a look at that recipe. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris Markland Date: Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:45 pm Subject: Re: Marie > > The sweet potatoes with southern comfort from "The Best American > Recipes > > 2001-2002" was the biggest hit at our dinner. Thanks for > turning me > on to > > those cook books. I bought all except the most recent. > > > > Betty > > Well . . . are you going to share this > recipe, or has it already been shared? > > - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 13:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1J1lBp017322 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:01:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A62F36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:00:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:00:59 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1J0w101614 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:00:59 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP8003IBCS1QT@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:55:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:55:52 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2e961c2e6fc5.2e6fc52e961c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I never had it with the stuffing. Cranberry, yes. We never have > leftoverstuffing. You have to make enough. I had my mom and sisters bring their own tupperware to bring home leftovers. They both took stuffing and I still have some left. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 13:23:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1JNoBp017538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:23:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00200862@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:23:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:23:01 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1JMc105027 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:22:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB1JMZ2f005447 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:22:35 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB1JMYJC005416 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:22:35 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031201111737.00b5b190@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:18:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <2e961c2e6fc5.2e6fc52e961c@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:55 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > I never had it with the stuffing. Cranberry, yes. We never have > > leftoverstuffing. > >You have to make enough. I had my mom and sisters bring their own >tupperware to bring home leftovers. They both took stuffing and I still >have some left. What kind of stuffing do you make? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 13:42:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1JgTBp017852 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:42:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6307A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:41:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:41:41 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Jfe108791 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:41:40 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 965EA2B8E9; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A922B8DC for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031201111737.00b5b190@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What kind of stuffing do you make? > Betty This is the leading question of the November mental assessment quiz in my mother's nursing facility. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 13:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1JiCBp017875 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:44:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63095@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:43:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:43:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1JhM109052 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:43:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1JgjDS028845 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:42:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:43:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1851681508.20031201134326@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >> What kind of stuffing do you make? >> Betty > This is the leading question of the November mental assessment quiz in my > mother's nursing facility. LOL. This is why no one wants to go places like that!!! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 14:06:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1K63Bp018132 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:06:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63141@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:05:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 36844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:05:14 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1K5C112680 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:05:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB1K572d015166 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:05:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3b846$7b1808a0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77871@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:05:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://tinyurl.com/x85c > > http://tinyurl.com/x85n > > http://tinyurl.com/x879 > > The first two are book shopping 'bots, the 3rd is froogle (the general 'bot > I've mentioned before). There's no point in manual shopping for comparisons > any more. This is great. Thanks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 14:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Kp9Bp018884 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:51:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00200BEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:50:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:50:20 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1KoJ122524 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:50:19 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP8000V3HU22I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:45:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:45:03 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2b5df02b0b87.2b0b872b5df0@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What kind of stuffing do you make? Sausage. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 15:02:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1L2bBp019040 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:02:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00200C4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:01:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:01:48 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1L1k124641 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:01:46 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001533; 1 Dec 03 16:12:11 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 1 Dec 03 16:12:01 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001532; 1 Dec 03 16:11:53 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:57:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] Message-ID: <3FCB6504.17268.1EFD4DD3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FC8A937.DBFECC88@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 29 Nov 2003 at 8:12, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: > > > We missed Tony's birthday! Hope it was a good one, Tony. > > Oh dear. A belated HB, Tony! Thank you! It wasn't too bad at all; Barbara had a "surprise" party for me on Saturday, and managed to convince many of the people who were at my 30th (that'd be, um, 20 years ago) to come. That many people (plus a gaggle of kids) in the same little house feels a lot more crowded now, thanks to more furniture and a lower tolerance for student-party-like conditions, I think. But it all went well, despite my "sore throat from hell" that isn't strep but just isn't going away. Sigh (croak)... A quick update (I hate to admit I haven't been reading in detail lately): I went to Brazil for a week on business (did I mention that possibility here?) It was Sao Paulo, and I had been led to expect a crowded, boring, dangerous, and very polluted place. But I had a much more interesting and less unpleasant time than I had expected, and saw a number of stereotypes shattered before my eyes. I was scheduled to go back there last week for a couple of days, but that was cancelled at the last moment, and it now looks as though further trips are unlikely. So I'm very glad I went when I had the chance. Brazil - ah, the language. I find Portuguese fairly easy to read (with a basic grounding in Latin and French), but very hard to pronounce and near impossible to listen to. This was a bit of a shock; I was expecting a sort of version of Spanish, and it just ain't so. But still it was interesting that I was sometimes able to catch an entire sentence or even discussion topic in the middle of the mush, and translate it for one or the other colleague. One colleague speaks Italian, and the other English only, and often the Italian speaker and I would catch overlapping parts of a conversation, or be able to get different things across to a cab driver, much to the amazement of the unilingual guy. But then I was amazed at his ability to just sort of blast his way through being the "ugly Canadian" (we of course pretended he was American :-) ) and shouting loudly in English. Cutting it short for now... Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 15:07:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1L78Bp019099 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:07:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A633AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:06:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:06:19 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB1L6I125587 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:06:19 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:06:12 PST Message-ID: <20031201210612.78209.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:06:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > You can ask all the Koreans who have been living > there for generations > without citizenship. If they remain for generations without coming up against major hurdles, why does the citizenship matter? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 15:23:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1LN9Bp019265 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:23:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63474@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:22:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 44885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:22:00 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1LLw130200 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:21:59 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120121214301300e05f4e>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:21:44 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201131629.03d35b28@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:21:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: <20031201210612.78209.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >If they remain for generations without coming up against major hurdles, >why does the citizenship matter? Karen said "living there" -- she didn't say anything about the lack of major hurdles. For a taste of some of the issues, see: http://www.jpri.org/WPapers/wp69.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 15:28:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1LSwBp019304 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:28:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A634A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:28:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:28:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1LS7131464 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:28:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1LS1rm026447 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:28:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:28:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1954357218.20031201152807@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] In-Reply-To: <3FCB6504.17268.1EFD4DD3@localhost> References: <3FCB6504.17268.1EFD4DD3@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > Barbara had a "surprise" party > for me on Saturday, and managed to convince many of the people who > were at my 30th (that'd be, um, 20 years ago) to come. That sounds like fun! I'm glad you had a good birthday. > It was Sao Paulo, and I had been led to > expect a crowded, boring, dangerous, and very polluted place. But I > had a much more interesting and less unpleasant time than I had > expected, and saw a number of stereotypes shattered before my eyes. A friend went a while back and had the same experience. I wonder where the sterotypes come from? > But then I was amazed at his ability to just sort of blast his way > through being the "ugly Canadian" (we of course pretended he was > American :-) ) and shouting loudly in English. You'd have to pretend he was American, of course. How... amazing. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 15:30:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1LU0Bp019319 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:30:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A634A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 45442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1LT9131584 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:29:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1LT0rm027516 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:29:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:29:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <905277825.20031201152906@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <20031201210612.78209.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031201210612.78209.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > If they remain for generations without coming up > against major hurdles, why does the citizenship matter? I dunno. Maybe they want to have a say in the government or something small like that? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 16:48:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1MmFBp020559 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:48:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002010A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:47:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:47:25 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1MlK113104 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:47:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201224715.LPQF1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:47:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBC4EE.5040909@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:47:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Football References: <3FCAB13C.7010607@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201075327.00b2da30@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201075327.00b2da30@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev quoted Lynn: >> I hope they get him, if he will turn the program He's been gotten. I don't know what time today -- I've been swamped with various odds 'n ends. But when I turned on the computer a little while ago, I checked the Clarion-Ledger's website and saw that he has said yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 16:54:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1MsgBp020665 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6383E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:53:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:53:52 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Mrq113938 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:53:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201225347.LSOT1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:53:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > It is a fairly dense, spicy, cured pork sausage---a Portugese recipe. If > you like Andouille and chorizo, you'll like linguica. Isn't andouille pig intestines? I don't know what chorizo is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:04:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1N4gBp020831 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:04:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A638A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:03:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:03:52 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1N3q115405 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:03:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201230347.LWPP1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:03:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBC8D4.5050402@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:03:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > >>Maybe she won't leave. I know people who went to Japan for a week and >>stayed the rest of their lives. > > How does that work? Is is easy to immigrate > to Japan? That thread on moving to Canada > made it sound like quite a chore, and that > was, well, Canada. No, it is not easy to enter Japan on a tourist visa (which is what it sounds like somebody planning to be there for a week was on) and stay there to work. It is very much illegal, and they do not take kindly to people who try it. One of my colleagues who went to Japan for a year in the late '80s decided to go on with just his passport since his work visa hadn't arrived yet. It took major interceding by top university (Meisei) authorities to spring him from the clutches of the immigration people. It is easy to immigrate if one has a job lined up in advance, which is a requirement for getting a work visa, and has the visa in hand. I know plenty of people who have moved to Japan more or less permanently. (They won't become citizens, of course. It's *EXTREMELY* difficult to become a Japanese citizen -- read almost impossible.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:09:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1N9LBp020868 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:09:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A638BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:31 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1N8Q115857 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201230819.LYLE1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:08:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for > permission to stay from your usual place of residence. What does this mean? That a US citizen moving to another country to work would be required by that other country to get the permission of the USA? That seems odd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:17:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NHlBp021013 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:17:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A638CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:16:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:16:57 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NGv116555 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:16:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201231652.MBOY1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBCBE5.6000606@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:16:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031201173123.87781.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031201173123.87781.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Try watching or listening to Public Radio and TV fund > raisers in Alabama. Paid commercials can be > entertaining. Fund-raising in AL is not. She speaks The Truth. As I said the other day, I don't know as much about AL Public Radio, but AL Public Television is unwatchable, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:21:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NLLBp021044 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:21:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A638E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:31 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NKV116785 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:31 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1NKROb7733340 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:20:27 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:20:27 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > Japan used to be quite easy about allowing > people to work there forever. So what would happen if you didn't have a job? They'd throw you out on your ear, or what? >Becoming a citizen is quite difficult, however. heh. Y'mean not everybody's got a sign hanging out with the come-on to the masses yearning to breathe free? > You can ask all the Koreans who have been > living there for generations without citizenship. There's a whole Japanese/Korean cultural animosity from centuries back, isn't there? Or am I confusing this with something else? Chinese/Vietnamese? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NLWBp021047 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:21:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A638CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:42 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NKf116799 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201232036.MDFQ1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:20:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBCCC5.1010607@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:20:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <2f1dcf2f345d.2f345d2f1dcf@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <2f1dcf2f345d.2f345d2f1dcf@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>My normal choice would be wheat, but I think white is also available. >>Are you saying that that is the choice for such a sandwich? > > Wheat would be my preferred bread for this sandwich. Or white. But in this case, nothing too would be appropriate. I'm getting confused now. I thought Rita said that it needed to be -- or was she talking about thickness and you about taste? (There was no turkey and dressing in the cafeteria today, so I did not pursue this matter. Might not have time to this week anyway. It's a complicated week.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:24:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NO3Bp021101 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:24:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A638E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:23:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:23:13 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NN8116957 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:23:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201232303.MEDT1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:23:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBCD58.3050802@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:23:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031201184810.4464.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031201184810.4464.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > The editorial was about > >>NPR's coverage of >>some of the war goings-on and about how it had >>become just as much a >>Republican propaganda machine as CNN and Fox. > > That must be it. I must be getting an NPR signal > being jammed by the DNC. They know how to chose their marks. I could quite likely find that column since I know it was in my earliest days of blogging, meaning it would be in the oldest archives. I don't remember where I read it or who wrote it or the specific incidents being cited. I just remember that it was a diatribe about disappointment in NPR's conservative bias. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:28:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NSOBp021150 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:28:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63908@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:26 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NRQ117691 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201232721.MFUF1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBCE55.9060901@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:27:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <1851681508.20031201134326@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1851681508.20031201134326@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > >>>What kind of stuffing do you make? >>>Betty > >>This is the leading question of the November mental assessment quiz in my >>mother's nursing facility. > > LOL. This is why no one wants to go places like that!!! Because of the biased testing? Biased both against non-cooks and against those who would have to stop and think what "stuffing" meant since we call it "dressing." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:28:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NSpBp021171 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:28:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63909@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:28:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:28:01 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NS0117757 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:28:00 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1NRuOb8429612 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:27:56 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:27:56 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for > permission to stay from your usual place of residence. ...and, I assume, the permission is more likely to be granted if you're a member of society? > It's pretty much a chore to move to any country I'm just going to use Alan Hale's navigation method to find an uncharted desert isle and establish a new dynasty. > When we moved here, even though we knew we were going to stay, we > came in on a tourist visa, and arranged all the details after the > fact. Damn. That sounds easier than when we moved here into the Third World (dba LA, USA). They confiscated our driving licenses and slapped an onerous tax on Br's property. -- Psmith From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:33:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NXBBp021289 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A638FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:32:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:32:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NWL118133 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:32:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1NWDrm007983 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:32:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:32:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9910179848.20031201173219@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > So what would happen if you didn't have > a job? They'd throw you out on your ear, > or what? It isn't that you need to have a job, it's that the job must sponsor your visa. The former is easy, the latter more difficult. Without some sort of sponsor, you can't get a visa to stay in Japan. I do know people who stayed years, but Japan is much more socialist than most democracies, and they certainly believe in minding everyone else's business, so you are unlikely to remain undiscovered. I was never asked for alien registration, but I know someone who was, and he had a terrible time of it. >>Becoming a citizen is quite difficult, however. > heh. Y'mean not everybody's got a sign > hanging out with the come-on to the masses > yearning to breathe free? Um, no. >> You can ask all the Koreans who have been >> living there for generations without citizenship. > There's a whole Japanese/Korean cultural animosity > from centuries back, isn't there? Yes. But there also Americans who have lived in Japan for several generations without citizenship. The ones I know are missionary-related, came over immediately postwar. The Koreans have been in Japan for longer. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:36:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NauBp021398 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:36:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:36:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:36:06 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Na1118703 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:36:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031201233556.MJBQ1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:35:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBD05D.2050907@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:35:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BELATED HB TO TONY [was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!] References: <3FCB6504.17268.1EFD4DD3@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FCB6504.17268.1EFD4DD3@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > Thank you! It wasn't too bad at all; Barbara had a "surprise" party > for me on Saturday, and managed to convince many of the people who > were at my 30th (that'd be, um, 20 years ago) to come. That many Barbara is a master surpriser (thinking again about that SF bday dinner). It sounds like a great event. > A quick update (I hate to admit I haven't been reading in detail > lately): I went to Brazil for a week on business (did I mention > that possibility here?) It was Sao Paulo, and I had been led to Indeed you did mention it here, but I couldn't remember whether you had said when. I was calling out to you at one point to tell how the Canadian medical system works but decided you must be in Brazil. (I can't remember that brief thread now -- it was some of the old stuff about Canadians pouring across the border to get US medical care to keep from having to wait forever in Canada.) > Brazil - ah, the language. I find Portuguese fairly easy to read > (with a basic grounding in Latin and French), but very hard to > pronounce and near impossible to listen to. This was a bit of a > shock; I was expecting a sort of version of Spanish, and it just > ain't so. But still it was interesting that I was sometimes able to I know zero about Portuguese but remember when hearing it thinking that it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. > Cutting it short for now... Please continue soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:37:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NbrBp021422 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:37:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00201194@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:37:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:37:03 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Nb3118802 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:37:03 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1NawOb745516 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:36:59 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:36:58 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Isn't andouille pig intestines? In France, yeah. South Louisiana andouille is a smoked pork sausage. Kinda like boudin. What you had in France is not what you'll get on my table. >I don't know what chorizo is. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana sausage. May-hee-ko. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:41:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NfQBp021523 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:41:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6392A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:40:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:40:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Nea119498 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:40:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1NdxDS023534 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:39:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:40:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>I don't know what chorizo is. > Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana > sausage. May-hee-ko. I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NhHBp021541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:42:27 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NgQ119703 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:42:26 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1NgKOb6201426 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:42:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:42:20 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Me: > Kinda like boudin. Egad! I did not mean to imply that andouille was like boudin!!!! I meant that the word "boudin" means something entirely different here than it does in France, in the same way "andouille" is entirely different here. -- Richard, and now for something completely the same From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Nv7Bp021625 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002011BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:46:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:46:13 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NkC120455 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:46:12 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1Nk8Ob7618626 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:46:08 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:46:08 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen, re: chorizo: > I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. You overestimate Starkpatch, or (more likely) a) have forgotten Natalie's shopping habits b) overestimate chorizo's appeal to the world in general -- Richard, "damn that's good -- chorizo you call it?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Nv7Bp021627 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020120E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:52:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:52:31 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NqV121119 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:52:31 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1NqTm6004802 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:52:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCBD3EB.1080700@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:51:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <2f1dcf2f345d.2f345d2f1dcf@optonline.net> <3FCBCCC5.1010607@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marie Ascher wrote: > >>> My normal choice would be wheat, but I think white is also available. >>> Are you saying that that is the choice for such a sandwich? >> >> >> Wheat would be my preferred bread for this sandwich. Or white. But in >> this case, nothing too would be appropriate. > > > I'm getting confused now. I thought Rita said that it needed to be > -- or was she talking about thickness and you about taste? > (There was no turkey and dressing in the cafeteria today, so I did not > pursue this matter. Might not have time to this week anyway. It's a > complicated week.) Thickness. The turkey, stuffing, and cranberry make for a heavy sandwich -- you need a bread that can hold it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Nv7Bp021626 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00201210@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:52:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:52:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Npu121018 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:51:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB1Nplrm028645 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:51:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:51:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen, re: chorizo: >> I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. > You overestimate Starkpatch, or (more likely) > a) have forgotten Natalie's shopping habits No. I don't expect her to ever buy it--this is the woman who would never buy pepperoni, after all. > b) overestimate chorizo's appeal to the world in general Actually, I'm not sure that *I* have ever had it. But I know that it's Mexican, and that they are everywhere. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1Nv7Bp021628 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002011F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:54:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:54:20 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1NsK121319 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:54:20 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1NsGOb6078558 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:54:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:54:16 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India In-Reply-To: <9910179848.20031201173219@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> <9910179848.20031201173219@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > It isn't that you need to have a job, it's that > the job must sponsor your visa. Ah, O.K. Sorry if I seemed a bit dim; obviously I've never done that kind of thing. Thanks, too, to steph. -- Richard, knows more now than when he woke up From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 17:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB1NwlBp021660 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:58:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A639CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:57:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:57:57 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB1Nvv121572 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:57:57 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1Nvum6010455 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:57:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:33 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >>b) overestimate chorizo's appeal to the world in general >> > > Actually, I'm not sure that *I* have ever had it. But I know that it's > Mexican, and that they are everywhere. I don't like the flavor at all. Ick. I bought some once and ended up giving most of it to my neighbor the Texan. I do miss linguica, tho. Maybe my next trip up. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB203aBp021715 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:03:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A639E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:02:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:02:45 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB202j121999 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:02:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202000240.LTRT2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:02:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBD6A1.1020508@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:02:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen: > >>Japan used to be quite easy about allowing >>people to work there forever. > > So what would happen if you didn't have > a job? They'd throw you out on your ear, > or what? Probably. It's possible that they might not discover you if you didn't try to leave or enter the country. But supposedly the police or whoever can ask you at any time to show your alien card. (I was told that the punishment for being asked for it and not having it on your person was that you have to write an essay telling why you left it at home. I assume that in that case you do produce it later for the officials -- i.e., that you do have to show you possess one. Nobody ever stopped me on the streets and asked to see mine -- though I did use it for things like getting a library card and setting up a video-rental account, but I always had it with me, even if just strolling along the nearby river.) And what if you were suddenly injured and had no alien card (or passport if you were a tourist -- the stamp in the passport would make clear when you entered the country -- all of the Asian countries I've been to are into stamping passports, unlike European countries)? Iow, I think it would be pretty risky to be an illegal alien in Japan. > There's a whole Japanese/Korean cultural animosity > from centuries back, isn't there? Or am I confusing > this with something else? No, you're not confusing it. Supposedly some Japanese families require tracing the bloodline of a child's to make sure there's no Korean blood. (I'm basing that on things I've read plus hearing it from a good friend whose wife is Japanese.) My Japanese friends were not into that prejudice, though. One of my best Japanese friends (the person whose house I was in when cooking on tv -- on that visit a couple of years after living there) -- has very good Korean friends both in Korea and in Japan. She took me one time to a glorious hole-in-the-wall Korean restaurant owned by a friend of hers. Then some of my other friends took me to another Korean restaurant when I mentioned having loved that hole-in-the-wall place (a much fancier restaurant that had food not nearly as good as the hole-in-the-wall). This is getting too long. There was only one time in Japan that I heard anti-Korean sentiment. It was from a student in the English-Speaking Club. We were playing some kind of guess-the-country game -- a sort of "twenty questions" type game. He was "it." When somebody asked, "Is it close to Japan?" he replied, "Yes. TOO close -- and rolled his eyes." The answer turned out to be Korea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:07:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB207KBp021751 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:07:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00201220@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB206U122234 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB206N6X010935 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:06:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:06:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <102573095.20031201180629@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> <9910179848.20031201173219@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen: >> It isn't that you need to have a job, it's that >> the job must sponsor your visa. > Ah, O.K. > Sorry if I seemed a bit dim; obviously I've > never done that kind of thing. That's okay--it's the kind of thing someone close to me is struggling with, too, so I forget that not everyone deals with immigration issues. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:07:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB207YBp021764 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:07:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00201250@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:44 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB206h122253 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB206f2d015171 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:06:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3b868$389982c0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1397671997.20031129092123@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCB3DE6.7080209@bc.edu> <000401c3b82d$9103f2a0$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCB770E.5080109@bc.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:07:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > > >Also read reviews here and > >see I'm in for a disappointing ending. Oh well, it's > >going well so far, half through. > > > > - D. M. > > > > > That, of course, depends on the expectations that you build as you > read. :-) > > Rita L. The complaint in several reviews was that the story ended too abruptly. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB209wBp021809 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:09:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63A08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:09:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:09:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2097122461 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:09:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB208UDS025268 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:08:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:09:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't like the flavor at all. Ick. I bought some once > and ended up giving most of it to my neighbor the Texan. I > do miss linguica, tho. Maybe my next trip up. Linguica is available in surprising places. I can't believe that NO PLACE in St. Louis has it. (Florissant, I believe.) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:12:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20CgBp021870 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:12:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63A18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:11:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:11:41 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20Bf122605 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:11:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202001135.LYJE2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:11:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBD8B8.90709@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:11:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: >>Isn't andouille pig intestines? > > In France, yeah. > > South Louisiana andouille is a smoked pork > sausage. THANK YOU, RICHARD!! This is one of those moments in life when you finally -- and it's a great feeling. For years I've heard andouille mentioned in relation to Louisiana cuisine, mentioned as if it's not something . But the only time I have ordered andouille was in a small cafe somewhere in France -- can't remember where -- somewhere in the south of France, I think. It's the only time in my life that I have actually thought I might barf at just the smell of the stuff. (I once had a pile of fat in Germany that was borderline barf-worthy, but it was tame compared to the andouille day.) I not only couldn't take a bite of the andouille, I found it almost impossible to shuffle it around with the fork to make my not eating it look a bit less tacky. It was grotesque. > What you had in France is not what you'll > get on my table. WHEW! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:19:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20J2Bp021984 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:19:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63A22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:18:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:18:11 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20IB123150 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:18:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202001806.MBRM2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:18:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana >>sausage. May-hee-ko. > > I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. I thought he was talking about where it's from, not where you can get it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:21:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20LRBp022014 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:21:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63A35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:20:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:20:37 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20Kb123354 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:20:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202002031.MCWL2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:20:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBDAD1.9070202@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:20:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen, re: chorizo: > >>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. > > You overestimate Starkpatch, or (more likely) > > a) have forgotten Natalie's shopping habits > b) overestimate chorizo's appeal to the world in general As I said, I assumed you were talking about where it's from. I have no idea whether it exists in Starkpatch since I have never had occasion to peruse the sausage offerings in a grocery store. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:23:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20N9Bp022040 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:23:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:22:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:22:18 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20MI123617 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:22:18 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB20MGm6007963 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:22:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:20:53 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I don't like the flavor at all. Ick. I bought some once >>and ended up giving most of it to my neighbor the Texan. I >>do miss linguica, tho. Maybe my next trip up. >> > > Linguica is available in surprising places. I can't believe that NO > PLACE in St. Louis has it. (Florissant, I believe.) As surprising as you may find it, I haven't visited every single market in the St. Louis area. I think of linguica as the type of thing you can buy in any local supermarket, which is true in southeastern Massachusetts, where you can buy many Portuguese foods just about anywhere. Perhaps one day I will have endless days of free time stretching before me and I can look in remote corners of the county for these little delicacies that I grew up taking for granted; until then, however, I'll just settle for eating them when I go home to a place where they are obtained with little effort. I have never seen linguica in any of the supermarkets, markets, or butcher shops of lovely Florissant, which is a pretty big place, but not very attractive to immigrants from Portugal for some reason. Afghanistan, Mexico, and Vietnam, yes. Portugal, not so much, you know? But, you're right, a little linguica could be lurking at the Mobile Mart just waiting for me to discover it. Until that fateful day, I hold my breath and pine fiercely for just one bite of its firm, succulent and spicey flesh with just a little greasey juice running down my chin. And some scrambled eggs. With a little salt. And maybe some toasted and buttered sweet bread. That would be pretty good. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:23:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20NxBp022046 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:23:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020125C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:23:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:23:08 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20N6123698 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:23:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202002301.MECW2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:23:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBDB64.8040109@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:23:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <2f1dcf2f345d.2f345d2f1dcf@optonline.net> <3FCBCCC5.1010607@maynor.net> <3FCBD3EB.1080700@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCBD3EB.1080700@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: >>> Wheat would be my preferred bread for this sandwich. Or white. But in >>> this case, nothing too would be appropriate. >> >> I'm getting confused now. I thought Rita said that it needed to be >> -- or was she talking about thickness and you about taste? >> (There was no turkey and dressing in the cafeteria today, so I did not >> pursue this matter. Might not have time to this week anyway. It's a >> complicated week.) > > Thickness. The turkey, stuffing, and cranberry make for a > heavy sandwich -- you need a bread that can hold it. That is how I had interpreted what you wrote. So now I need to find out what Marie meant by . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20RHBp022138 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63A45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:26:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:26:27 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20QR124105 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:26:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202002622.MFWD2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:26:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBDC2F.8060603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:26:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>a) have forgotten Natalie's shopping habits > > No. I don't expect her to ever buy it--this is the woman who would > never buy pepperoni, after all. Something about "would never buy" suggests . I've simply never had any reason or desire to look at sausage offerings in a grocery store. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:28:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20SnBp022151 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:28:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63A57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:27:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20Rx124330 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:27:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB20Rs6X005353 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:27:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana >>>sausage. May-hee-ko. >> >> I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. > I thought he was talking about where it's from, not where you can get it. So did I. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:30:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20U1Bp022177 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:30:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63A67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:29:11 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20TA124491 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:29:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202002904.MHGB2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:29:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBDCD1.5000207@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:29:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <648677341.20031201094040@WordWrite.com> <9910179848.20031201173219@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen: > >>It isn't that you need to have a job, it's that >>the job must sponsor your visa. > > Ah, O.K. > > Sorry if I seemed a bit dim; obviously I've > never done that kind of thing. You don't seem dim at all, but hey -- you may not have done it yourself, but you have conversed ftf with somebody who had within less than an hour before had a Japanese work visa put into her hands. You were the first person I saw, not counting strangers on the streets, after I procured my Japanese work visa at the consulate in NO. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:32:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20WnBp022238 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:32:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63A61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:31:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:31:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20Vw124792 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:31:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB20Vt6X009659 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:31:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:31:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> Linguica is available in surprising places. I can't believe that NO >> PLACE in St. Louis has it. (Florissant, I believe.) > As surprising as you may find it, I haven't visited every > single market in the St. Louis area. I meant my comment as encouragement that it's just around the corner rather than castigation. I haven't even been to all the markets in Austin. > I think of linguica as the type of thing you can buy in any local > supermarket, which is true in southeastern Massachusetts, where you > can buy many Portuguese foods just about anywhere. Yes, well, I understand that Missouri and Massachusetts are different states. > Perhaps one day I will have endless days of free time stretching > before me and I can look in remote corners of the county for these > little delicacies that I grew up taking for granted; until then, > however, I'll just settle for eating them when I go home to a place > where they are obtained with little effort. Local newsgroups are useful for stuff like that. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:38:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20ckBp022301 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:38:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63A94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:37:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:37:55 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20bt125424 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:37:55 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB20brCB017501 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:37:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:36:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>Perhaps one day I will have endless days of free time stretching >>before me and I can look in remote corners of the county for these >>little delicacies that I grew up taking for granted; until then, >>however, I'll just settle for eating them when I go home to a place >>where they are obtained with little effort. >> > > Local newsgroups are useful for stuff like that. I haven't used Usenet in so long that I doubt I know how anymore. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 18:47:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB20lgBp022464 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:47:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63AB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:46:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:46:52 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB20kp126233 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:46:51 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB20kmGp027907; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:46:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201194335.00b65c18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:46:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:53 PM 12/1/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > >>It is a fairly dense, spicy, cured pork sausage---a Portugese recipe. If >>you like Andouille and chorizo, you'll like linguica. > >Isn't andouille pig intestines? I don't know what chorizo is. For an explanation of the ingredients (but not necessarily the proportions of each), see: http://www.sausagekitchen.com/products.htm This is the place that I buy sausage. One couple here thinks that his stuff is disappointing---not "fiery" enough. My position is that additional "fire" can easily be applied via chipotles, etc. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 19:02:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB212QBp022698 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:02:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63AE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:01:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:01:36 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB211a127684 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:01:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202010130.HSPW12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBE45D.1010606@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:01:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > As surprising as you may find it, I haven't visited every > single market in the St. Louis area. I think of linguica as > the type of thing you can buy in any local supermarket, > which is true in southeastern Massachusetts, where you can > buy many Portuguese foods just about anywhere. Perhaps one I had never really thought before about of grocery stores, even chains, until one time when love,judith was visiting here. She loves browsing in grocery stores and was fascinated by things like the substantial shelf space devoted to grits. She said that Allan (her late husband) had loved grits and that she had therefore bought them but that they were difficult to find in RI -- not shelves and shelves of them like here. Reminds me of rice in Japan -- mega-large bags of white rice, very small bags of brown rice. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 19:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB214rBp022737 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:04:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63AF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:04:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:04:02 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2142127867 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:04:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202010357.HTWQ12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:03:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Karen Kay wrote: > >>>>Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana >>>>sausage. May-hee-ko. >>> >>>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. > >>I thought he was talking about where it's from, not where you can get it. > > So did I. ?? So what does your "I would be surprised" sentence mean? It talks about where you can get it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBp011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63AF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:05:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:05:39 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB215d127999 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:05:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202010532.HURR12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:05:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:05:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I haven't used Usenet in so long that I doubt I know how anymore. Enter 'nn' -- still works fine (though I rarely go there). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBq011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63BAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:03:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:03:01 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2230100700 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:03:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB222xeO017772 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:02:59 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB222wa2017732; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:02:58 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:05:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:20 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>The current discussion calls the former 'throwers' (as in throwing the >>yarn over the needles) and the latter 'pickers'. I don't know anyone >>who knits with the needles down, btw--you can 'throw' with needles up. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > >Ah... I'm a thrower. That's how it has been passed down in my family. I >have seen someone knit Continental and I'm sure with practice could pick it >up, but I do just fine. Finished a fun fur scarf for my niece and am >starting mittens to match Edward's hat. > >Are there any crocheters out there? I don't do this as much. My >grandmother used to make beautiful doilies. She showed me how, but I don't >have the time or patience right now to do that fine work. She also >tattered, but I never learned that one. . I crocheted an afghan once when I was trying to quit smoking. Needed to keep my hands busy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBq011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63B71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:37:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:37:18 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21bH131040 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:37:17 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120201371101500r2589e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 01:37:11 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It is a fairly dense, spicy, cured pork sausage---a Portugese recipe. If > you like Andouille and chorizo, you'll like linguica. I *love* linguica. I used to put it all the time in my ersatz jambalaya, but I haven't bought any since I don't make that anymore. Is it any good on its own like kielbasa? --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBr011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63BF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:17:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:17:17 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22HG101833 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:17:16 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120202171001300f6tg1e> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 02:17:10 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201194335.00b65c18@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This is the place that I buy sausage. One couple here thinks that his > stuff is disappointing---not "fiery" enough. My position is that > additional "fire" can easily be applied via chipotles, etc. I bought this brand of linguica. Very tasty. http://www.gasparssausage.com/ourproducts.html --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBr011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63BF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22Ob102408 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB22OZW1022300 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:24:36 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB22OYWq022260; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:24:35 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031201182635.00a34340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:27:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Heather In-Reply-To: References: <1627265806.20031201085604@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:38 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > There's a Chinese sausage that's quite good, but the name escapes me > > at the moment. > >The best sausage I've ever had was some Vietnamese sausage we had in >Providence with love, judith. Man, was it good. I think Heather ordered it. Has anyone heard from Heather? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBr011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63BF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22Ji101973 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22JiEF018968 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22JiJx028417 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:19:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:19:43 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I crocheted an afghan once when I was trying to quit smoking. Needed to > keep my hands busy. > > Betty As Bonnie mentioned, I have also seen articles about a more young women taking up hand crafts as a way to relieve stress and connect with other people. Works for me, better than hand wringing! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBr011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63C12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:25:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:25:58 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22Pw102537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:25:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202022553.TNQK1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:25:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBF832.5070501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:25:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Heather References: <1627265806.20031201085604@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201182635.00a34340@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031201182635.00a34340@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Has anyone heard from Heather? And speaking of lost Wordslers, when have we last heard from Sly or Elaine? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBs011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63C02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:30:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:30:05 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22U4102820 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:30:04 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120202295801500r27kme> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 02:29:58 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Heather Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:29:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031201182635.00a34340@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Has anyone heard from Heather? Not since her surprise SnowBash visit 3 or 4 years ago. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBs011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:40:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:40:51 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22eo103850 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:40:50 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22eoEF019537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:40:50 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22eoJx031462 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:40:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:40:49 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <21855718.1070314849@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I find hand crafts > horrendously stress-producing. Trying to do craftish stuff makes me > want to scream. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think this works best as stress relief if there is a certain level of proficiency. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBs011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63C5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:51:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:51:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22p8104789 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:51:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB22p7eO011941 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:51:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB22p5a2011858; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:51:06 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031201185317.00a96840@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:53:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:19 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>I crocheted an afghan once when I was trying to quit smoking. Needed to >>keep my hands busy. >> >>Betty > > >As Bonnie mentioned, I have also seen articles about a more young women >taking up hand crafts as a way to relieve stress and connect with other >people. Works for me, better than hand wringing! I no longer feel stressed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBt011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22ur105258 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB22ui6X016439 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:56:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:56:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <645637580.20031201205644@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <21855718.1070314849@TWild.uri.edu> References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> <21855718.1070314849@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > I think this works best as stress relief if there is a certain level of > proficiency. I agree. I think these are also best when learned in one's youth. It was nice to take up knitting again without missing a beat even though it'd been many, many years. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBt011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63C82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2313105803 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB230xrm021703 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:01:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:00:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <928310292.20031201210058@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202024622.52897.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031202024622.52897.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > You wouldn't find anything called chorizo in this part of Alabama, > but you might find something that tastes very similar. I find that shocking. You have no Latino population?! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBt011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63C68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB231R105864 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200312020301210140097fsle> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 03:01:21 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: UMASS, Amherst Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <22418468.1070315412@TWild.uri.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hope you can help me. I need some basic info on getting to UMASS, > Amherst. We have tickets to a 2pm showing of the Nutcracker by the Moscow > Ballet on Sat. I figure about 2.5 hours to Springfield, and then how much > farther north from you is it? It's about a half hour north of West Springfield, but plan on heavy traffic on Route 9 between 91 and Amherst, so I'd budget between 45 minutes and 60 minutes to get from Exit 4 of the pike to Amherst. You can also get off the Pike at exit 8, Palmer, and take Route 32 north, but I don't know exactly where that puts you. Maybe it intersects with 9? There's a sign for UMASS at that exit, but I've never done it that way. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBu011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63C76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:05:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:05:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2352106544 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:05:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2351eO004284 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:05:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB234xa2004209; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:05:00 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031201190653.00a8e100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:07:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <22900875.1070315895@TWild.uri.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031201185317.00a96840@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031201185317.00a96840@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:58 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >--On Monday, December 01, 2003 6:53 PM -0800 Betty > wrote: > >>I no longer feel stressed. > >Wonderful! > >I knit because I want to make something. > >I paged Heather at the last address I had, user unknown. I found her last time by googling her. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBu011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:07:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:07:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2372106785 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:07:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB236wrm028860 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:07:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:06:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <794358286.20031201210659@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCC0098.5060501@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> <1325424032.20031201204917@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0098.5060501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>>>>>Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana >>>>>>>sausage. May-hee-ko. >>>>>> >>>>>>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. >>>> >>>>>I thought he was talking about where it's from, not where you can get it. >>>> >>>>So did I. >> >>>?? So what does your "I would be surprised" sentence mean? It talks >>>about where you can get it. >> >> Yes, it does. This is how discourse works in English. > ?? So why do you say that you were talking about where it's from > instead of where you get it, when you clearly said "get it"? I never said I was talking about where it's from. I said *he* was talking about where it's from. I changed the subject slightly, to the subject of where one can get it. > I realize that non-sequiturs happen, but I would not say that > that is "how discourse works in English." Please explain. It wasn't a nonsequitur, it was an expansion of the topic. You are the queen of this, so I'm surprised you don't recognize it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBu011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63C9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:09:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:09:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB239Z107042 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:09:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202030930.WIPU1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:09:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC026B.5080307@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:09:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Natalie Maynor: > = steph wrote: > = > = >It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for > = >permission to stay from your usual place of residence. > = > = What does this mean? That a US citizen moving to another country to > = work would be required by that other country to get the permission of > = the USA? That seems odd. > = > Hmmm. We're having a from/in problem. I (me personally) cannot > replace "from" in my sentence above with "in". Yet you have still > managed to get confused by it even though you do know how the > world works and it does seem odd to you. How the world works doesn't seem odd to me. How your sentence worked does. > In order to move permanently to the Netherlands from the USA, you > must request that permission of the Netherlands while you are > still in the USA. That is clear. Your earlier statement wasn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBv011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:30 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB23DU107446 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:30 -0500 Received: from [208.61.190.13] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:13:24 PST Message-ID: <20031202031324.74183.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:13:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > > Are there any crocheters out there? I don't do > this as much. My > > grandmother used to make beautiful doilies. She > showed me how, but I don't > > have the time or patience right now to do that > fine work. She also > > tattered, but I never learned that one. > > Tatted. No r. > > I haven't tatted, but I have knitted and crocheted, > even lace. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism Many years ago I crocheted, but now it's needlepoint. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBv011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:11:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:11:06 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB23B5107181 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:11:05 -0500 Received: from [208.61.190.13] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:10:59 PST Message-ID: <20031202031059.73475.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <928310292.20031201210058@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 01, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > You wouldn't find anything called chorizo in this > part of Alabama, > > but you might find something that tastes very > similar. > > I find that shocking. You have no Latino > population?! Yes, we have. We even have a Mexican grocery store. But I've never seen fresh meats in there. I suppose they are reserved for the local Latino restaurants. But down near the coast, one could probably find it. For some reason, this leaves me unshocked. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBv011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63C91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23Db107457 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202031332.WKHI1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC035D.5030404@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:13:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> <21855718.1070314849@TWild.uri.edu> <645637580.20031201205644@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <645637580.20031201205644@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>I think this works best as stress relief if there is a certain level of >>proficiency. > > I agree. I think these are also best when learned in one's youth. It Fwiw, I did learn to knit in my youth. Hated it. (And I realize that that is not necessarily a contradiction of what you said.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBw011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63CC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:21:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:21:29 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23LT108560 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:21:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202032119.WNNH1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:21:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:21:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I haven't tatted, but I have knitted and crocheted, even lace. Just so I can add to the craftsy thread -- I have successfully crocheted a good many items. All little girls in my were expected to know how to crochet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBv011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63CA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:29 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23IS108064 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202031823.WMID1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:18:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >> Hope you can help me. I need some basic info on getting to UMASS, >>Amherst. We have tickets to a 2pm showing of the Nutcracker by the Moscow >>Ballet on Sat. I figure about 2.5 hours to Springfield, and then how much >>farther north from you is it? > > > It's about a half hour north of West Springfield, but plan on heavy traffic > on Route 9 between 91 and Amherst, so I'd budget between 45 minutes and 60 > minutes to get from Exit 4 of the pike to Amherst. > > You can also get off the Pike at exit 8, Palmer, and take Route 32 north, > but I don't know exactly where that puts you. Maybe it intersects with 9? > There's a sign for UMASS at that exit, but I've never done it that way. > > --Adam Where is Alec? Remember how he used to trash people for this kind of posting, asking why they didn't do it off-list? NB: I *like* this kind of posting. It's how Words-L works. I like that it works this way. But suddenly I started thinking about Alec's complaints and wondered why he seems erratic in them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBw011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63CB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:03 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23N3108745 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:03 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23N3EF020890 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:03 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23N3Jx005232 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:23:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:23:02 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst Message-ID: <24388625.1070317382@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the info, Adam! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBw011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:22:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:22:57 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23Mu108728 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:22:56 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB23MtkF004097 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:22:55 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB23MsdL004095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:22:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:22:54 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India Message-ID: <20031202032254.GB3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = steph: = > It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for = > permission to stay from your usual place of residence. = = ...and, I assume, the permission is more likely = to be granted if you're a member = of society? = Naturally. The whole thing is a scam anyway. You're not going to have a job lined up in some foreign land unless you have some basis there. So either you're going to misuse a tourist visa to get that basis and then have a company supporting your presense with enough clout to override the rules, or you're going to be some kind of low threat to the social system or something of that ilk, or you're going to start out as an illegal alien, or at some point you're just going to have to cough up that round trip air fare so you can physically go home and get thing lined up the way they want you too. I suppose by the time the Columbians (which is where we seem to have our illegal aliens from at the moment) know they can go home and come back legally they're ready for a visit home anyway. I didn't hear the piece, but I got the idea the other day from the BBC that much of south and central america is supported by the money their emigrants send home. = > It's pretty much a chore to move to any country = = I'm just going to use Alan Hale's navigation method = to find an uncharted desert isle and establish a new = dynasty. = You must upgrade: try Kate Mulgrew. = > When we moved here, even though we knew we were going to stay, we = > came in on a tourist visa, and arranged all the details after the = > fact. = = Damn. That sounds easier than when we moved here = into the Third World (dba LA, USA). They confiscated = our driving licenses and slapped an onerous tax on = Br's property. They didn't then, but they do now, treat you like a brand new driver here. It costs about $1000 here to get your drivers license when all is said and done. I love telling people that it cost $10 (or it did then, anyway) in California, and that your parents can teach you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBp011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63B17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:20:44 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21Kh129437 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:20:43 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21KhEF017324 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:20:43 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21KhJx019657 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:20:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:20:43 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The current discussion calls the former 'throwers' (as in throwing the > yarn over the needles) and the latter 'pickers'. I don't know anyone > who knits with the needles down, btw--you can 'throw' with needles up. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism Ah... I'm a thrower. That's how it has been passed down in my family. I have seen someone knit Continental and I'm sure with practice could pick it up, but I do just fine. Finished a fun fur scarf for my niece and am starting mittens to match Edward's hat. Are there any crocheters out there? I don't do this as much. My grandmother used to make beautiful doilies. She showed me how, but I don't have the time or patience right now to do that fine work. She also tattered, but I never learned that one. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBq011540 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63BC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:13:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:13:15 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22DF101308 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:13:15 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22Cbpe010693 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:12:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:11:45 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn! or.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>> Enter 'nn' -- still works fine (though I rarely go there). >> >> >> I don't have shell access. > > > Ugh. I've seen things like "newsreaders" mentioned on various e-mail > programs, including Mozilla (which I continue to use happily -- thank > you again, Pete!). But I don't know how one uses them. If I want to > usenet, I still do it via nn in shell. > > Re not having shell access, how do you create/maintain webpages? I > wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to do that without shell access. I create them in PageMill (a very old authoring program) and then upload them. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBq011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63B75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:38:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:38:43 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21ch131192 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:38:43 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120201383701500r258ce> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 01:38:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1627265806.20031201085604@WordWrite.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > There's a Chinese sausage that's quite good, but the name escapes me > at the moment. The best sausage I've ever had was some Vietnamese sausage we had in Providence with love, judith. Man, was it good. I think Heather ordered it. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBr011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:54 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22Or102463 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202022448.TNDB1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:24:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > taking up hand crafts as a way to relieve stress and connect with other Different strokes are becoming clearer and clearer to me. The idea of relieving stress via hand crafts boggles my mind. I find hand crafts horrendously stress-producing. Trying to do craftish stuff makes me want to scream. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBs011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63C5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:49:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:49:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22nL104652 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:49:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB22mfDS029042 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:48:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:49:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1325424032.20031201204917@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>>>Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana >>>>>sausage. May-hee-ko. >>>> >>>>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. >> >>>I thought he was talking about where it's from, not where you can get it. >> >> So did I. > ?? So what does your "I would be surprised" sentence mean? It talks > about where you can get it. Yes, it does. This is how discourse works in English. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBs011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63C38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:46:29 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB22kT104400 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:46:29 -0500 Received: from [208.61.190.13] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:46:22 PST Message-ID: <20031202024622.52897.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:46:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > You overestimate Starkpatch, or (more likely) > > a) have forgotten Natalie's shopping habits > b) overestimate chorizo's appeal to the world in > general I have a suspicion that sausages from one region to another are not all that unlike each other. Different seasonings, of course; different casings; and often, different names. Haggis is really a large sausage, for instance, as is blood pudding. You wouldn't find anything called chorizo in this part of Alabama, but you might find something that tastes very similar. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBt011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22wL105429 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB22viDS010572 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:57:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:58:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <169204249.20031201205820@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > Natalie Maynor: > = steph wrote: > = = >>It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for = >>permission to stay from your usual place of residence. > = > = What does this mean? That a US citizen moving to another country to > = work would be required by that other country to get the permission of > = the USA? That seems odd. > = > Hmmm. We're having a from/in problem. I (me personally) cannot > replace "from" in my sentence above with "in". Yet you have still > managed to get confused by it even though you do know how the > world works and it does seem odd to you. I didn't understand it either. > In order to move permanently to the Netherlands from the USA, you > must request that permission of the Netherlands while you are > still in the USA. Ah. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBu011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:48 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB231m105954 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202030143.WFFF1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:01:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC0098.5060501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:01:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> <1325424032.20031201204917@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1325424032.20031201204917@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>>>>>Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana >>>>>>sausage. May-hee-ko. >>>>> >>>>>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. >>> >>>>I thought he was talking about where it's from, not where you can get it. >>> >>>So did I. > >>?? So what does your "I would be surprised" sentence mean? It talks >>about where you can get it. > > Yes, it does. This is how discourse works in English. ?? So why do you say that you were talking about where it's from instead of where you get it, when you clearly said "get it"? That makes no sense to me and is not like any discourse I'm familiar with in English. I realize that non-sequiturs happen, but I would not say that that is "how discourse works in English." Please explain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBu011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63C74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:04:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:04:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB234U106424 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:04:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB234M6X025855 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:04:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:04:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > Are there any crocheters out there? I don't do this as much. My > grandmother used to make beautiful doilies. She showed me how, but I don't > have the time or patience right now to do that fine work. She also > tattered, but I never learned that one. Tatted. No r. I haven't tatted, but I have knitted and crocheted, even lace. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBv011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63CB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:31 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23GV107765 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:31 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23GVEF020719 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:31 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23GUJx004342 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:16:30 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <23996234.1070316990@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Tatted. No r. > Exactly. That darn Rhode Island r now shows up in my writing! > I haven't tatted, but I have knitted and crocheted, even lace. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBp011538 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63B08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:10:07 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21A7128414 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:10:07 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21A5CB025521 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:10:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:08:39 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I haven't used Usenet in so long that I doubt I know how anymore. > > > Enter 'nn' -- still works fine (though I rarely go there). I don't have shell access. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBq011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63B60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:35:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:35:46 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21Zj130788 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:35:45 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200312020135390140097d8te> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 01:35:40 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:35:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1933665349.20031201075829@WordWrite.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is English the only lg that has a long eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek? Russian has a long e - it looks like the Latin letter u. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBt011537 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63C66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22ub105229 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202025631.WDAJ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBFF60.80804@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:56:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> <21855718.1070314849@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <21855718.1070314849@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> I find hand crafts >> horrendously stress-producing. Trying to do craftish stuff makes me >> want to scream. >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I think this works best as stress relief if there is a certain level of > proficiency. That makes sense. Things that one is good at tend to , while things one is not good at tend to . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBp011539 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63B0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:12:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:12:24 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21CO128650 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:12:24 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21CNEF017090 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:12:23 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21CNJx018379 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:12:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:12:23 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Old Fart wine Message-ID: <16549078.1070309543@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thanks, Terry and 'Al. We enjoyed it a lot. We still have Old Fart's > Wife left. > > Betty You are very welcome. I love to have a bottle on hand for fun. My friend Julie who moved to VA earlier this year called me at 10am one Sat. morning. She was in a liquor store and couldn't remember the name. When I told her, she yells over at the person "OLD FART" wonder if anyone else heard her and thought she was being insulting. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23QmBp011541 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:21:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:21:09 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21L9129485 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:21:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202012104.GURO1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBE901.9010701@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:21:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: >> Enter 'nn' -- still works fine (though I rarely go there). > > I don't have shell access. Ugh. I've seen things like "newsreaders" mentioned on various e-mail programs, including Mozilla (which I continue to use happily -- thank you again, Pete!). But I don't know how one uses them. If I want to usenet, I still do it via nn in shell. Re not having shell access, how do you create/maintain webpages? I wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to do that without shell access. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:29:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23TVBp011672 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:29:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63CE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:39 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23Sd109441 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:39 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23SdEF021013 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:39 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23ScJx006027 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:28:38 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst Message-ID: <24724312.1070317718@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> References: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Where is Alec? Remember how he used to trash people for this kind of > posting, asking why they didn't do it off-list? NB: I *like* this kind > of posting. It's how Words-L works. I like that it works this way. > But suddenly I started thinking about Alec's complaints and wondered why > he seems erratic in them. > > -- I freely stand up and say I intended to send it off-list, but in responding to a note of Adam's didn't check off the appropriate box and the rest is history. The nature of this request and my response will hopefully not allow this to morph into something resembling the reptilian nature of the highway system. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBp011895 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020132D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:34 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21GY129042 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:34 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21GYEF017208 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:34 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB21GXJx019005 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:16:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:16:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Old Fart wine Message-ID: <16799484.1070309793@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FC9403B.4070807@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC9403B.4070807@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What? Alan doesn't disapprove of French wine?? Why do you thing Alan doesn't approve of French wines? I've forgotten the name > of Old Fart's wife now, though the liquor-store owner and I discussed it > not all that long ago when I was buying some Old Fart. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't think she has a name, just Old Fart's Wife. We can get Old Fart readily, but not his wife, so one of the stores offered to order it for me. They're a small store and are looking to generate business. I think I'll have to help them out for being so helpful. That reminds me, I should send a set to Julie and her husband. I don't think they've tried OFW yet. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBq011897 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002014AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:54:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:54:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22si105056 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:54:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB22shkF003585 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 03:54:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB22sgfM003583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 03:54:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 03:54:42 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India Message-ID: <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = >It's more ususal now for a country to require you to ask for = >permission to stay from your usual place of residence. = = What does this mean? That a US citizen moving to another country to = work would be required by that other country to get the permission of = the USA? That seems odd. = Hmmm. We're having a from/in problem. I (me personally) cannot replace "from" in my sentence above with "in". Yet you have still managed to get confused by it even though you do know how the world works and it does seem odd to you. In order to move permanently to the Netherlands from the USA, you must request that permission of the Netherlands while you are still in the USA. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBp011899 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00201436@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB22Y4103085 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from [208.61.190.13] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:33:57 PST Message-ID: <20031202023357.3429.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:33:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin > I'm just going to use Alan Hale's navigation method > to find an uncharted desert isle and establish a new > dynasty. The down side to a dynasty lies in the fact that it usually involves heirs who are capable of morphing into very selfishly motivated rivals. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBq011895 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020149F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22oD104723 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22oDEF019938 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22oDJx000449 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:50:12 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: UMASS, Amherst Message-ID: <22418468.1070315412@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Adam, Hope you can help me. I need some basic info on getting to UMASS, Amherst. We have tickets to a 2pm showing of the Nutcracker by the Moscow Ballet on Sat. I figure about 2.5 hours to Springfield, and then how much farther north from you is it? I'm assuming from the following mapquest map that taking 91 north and then 9 east would be easiest. All suggestions welcome. TIA, Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBq011896 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002014A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:52:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:51:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22pM104816 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:51:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB22pIrm010098 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:51:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:51:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1433687614.20031201205118@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> Is English the only lg that has a long eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek? > Russian has a long e - it looks like the Latin letter u. Well, I meant that uses an 'e' for long e, not just short 'e' or the pure vowel. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBq011899 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002014BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:16 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22wF105420 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:16 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22wFEF020139 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:15 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB22wFJx001623 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:58:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:58:15 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <22900875.1070315895@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031201185317.00a96840@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031201185317.00a96840@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Monday, December 01, 2003 6:53 PM -0800 Betty wrote: > I no longer feel stressed. Wonderful! I knit because I want to make something. I paged Heather at the last address I had, user unknown. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBr011895 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00201516@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:15:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:15:19 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB23FI107654 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:15:18 -0500 Received: from [208.61.190.13] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:15:11 PST Message-ID: <20031202031511.72517.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:15:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031201190653.00a8e100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > >I paged Heather at the last address I had, user > unknown. > > I found her last time by googling her. Did she giggle or appeal piteously for assistance? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBp011896 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00201383@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:23:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:23:53 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21Nq129737 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:23:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202012347.GVST1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:23:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBE9A4.5020803@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:23:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Old Fart wine References: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC9403B.4070807@maynor.net> <16799484.1070309793@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <16799484.1070309793@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> I've forgotten the name >> of Old Fart's wife now, though the liquor-store owner and I discussed it >> not all that long ago when I was buying some Old Fart. > I don't think she has a name, just Old Fart's Wife. We can get Old Fart > readily, but not his wife, so one of the stores offered to order it for me. The name I'm thinking of wasn't just Old Fart's Wife. It was something like Old Tart(??). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBq011898 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002014B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:55:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:55:50 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22tF105126 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:55:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202025507.WCLB1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:55:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBFF0C.4080904@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:55:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Heather References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Has anyone heard from Heather? > > Not since her surprise SnowBash visit 3 or 4 years ago. I thought we had heard from her since then. It's stuck in my head that she gave us a follow-up report about her Chocolat Man -- that they were no longer together. Does anybody remember that? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBr011896 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020152D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:27:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:27:08 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23QH109108 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:26:17 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB23QDkF004110 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:26:13 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB23QD6p004108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:26:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:26:12 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202032612.GC3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Monday, December 01, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: = > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: = >>I don't know what chorizo is. = = > Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay south Louisiana = > sausage. May-hee-ko. = = I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. = It's beginning to fall off the end, but for the longest time here, it was called chorizo-worst, which always gave me a smile. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBp011898 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00201437@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:20:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:20:43 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB22Kh102082 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:20:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202022026.TLCA1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:20:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:20:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn! or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: >> Re not having shell access, how do you create/maintain webpages? I >> wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to do that without shell access. > > I create them in PageMill (a very old authoring program) and > then upload them. I hope I always have shell access since that sounds above my head. All I know how to do is long on and vi the pages. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:37:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23bhBp011897 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002013AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:53:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:53:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB21rF132399 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:53:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB21rCAt013539; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:53:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201205200.00b6ff30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:52:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:37 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > It is a fairly dense, spicy, cured pork sausage---a Portugese recipe. If > > you like Andouille and chorizo, you'll like linguica. > >I *love* linguica. I used to put it all the time in my ersatz jambalaya, but >I haven't bought any since I don't make that anymore. Is it any good on its >own like kielbasa? I haven't tried it that way, but I don't see why not---with a good spicy mustard, etc. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:39:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23dsBp012008 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:39:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63CDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:44 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23Vi109796 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:44 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23ViEF021093 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:44 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23ViJx006426 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:31:43 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > All little girls in my were expected to > know how to crochet. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) My mother taught me to knit, but told me to ask my grandmother when I wanted to learn to crochet. Although she had been shown, my mother didn't crochet. She taught Lillia to knit when I was pregnant with Edward. Lil made a cute pair of booties for him. They visited my grandmother to have the ties crocheted. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:39:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23dsBp012009 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:39:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63D0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:37:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:37:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23bi110829 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:37:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202033739.WTNI1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC0903.7040104@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:37:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <20031202031059.73475.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031202031059.73475.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>I find that shocking. You have no Latino >>population?! > ... > For some reason, this leaves me unshocked. But just how many knitting clubs do you have? The paucity might be quite shocking to someone as easy shockable as Karen apparently is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:39:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23dsBp012010 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:39:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63D18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:38:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:38:26 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23cQ110929 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:38:26 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-226.gwi.net [216.195.150.226]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB23cNAt058367; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:38:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:38:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <24724312.1070317718@TWild.uri.edu> References: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:28 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >The nature of this request and my response will hopefully not allow this to >morph into something resembling the reptilian nature of the highway system. Why not? To quote Janet, "This is words-f*****g-l!" Have a good trip. We're bound for the Bay Area tomorrow, via Rockland and the Farnsworth, Bath and a knitting store, and who knows where else. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:39:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23dsBp012007 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:39:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63CE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:29:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:29:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23T1109470 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:29:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202032856.WQGN1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC06F9.6070701@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:28:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> <1325424032.20031201204917@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0098.5060501@maynor.net> <794358286.20031201210659@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <794358286.20031201210659@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>?? So why do you say that you were talking about where it's from >>instead of where you get it, when you clearly said "get it"? > > I never said I was talking about where it's from. I said *he* was > talking about where it's from. ??? You said this: >>>>>>>>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. You were pretty obviously, at least in my mutant view, talking about where one GETS it. > It wasn't a nonsequitur, it was an expansion of the topic. You are the > queen of this, so I'm surprised you don't recognize it. I'm a great believer in subject morphs, as I've said many times before. But that is quite a different thing from claiming that "where it's from" and "where one gets it" mean the same thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:41:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23fkBp012065 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:41:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63D1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:40:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:40:55 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23es111233 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:40:54 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB23erkF004152 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:40:53 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB23eq21004150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:40:52 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:40:52 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I hope I always have shell access since that sounds above my head. All = I know how to do is long on and vi the pages. = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) May you always have shell access. But, should the time come when you don't, have no fear. You have learned to navigate PPP connections with Trumpet Winsock and ADSL connections, and are from a time before Mosaic and popping mail. You'll figure it out (you'll bitch mightily, but you'll figure it out). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:42:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23g1Bp012071 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:42:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63D28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:41:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:41:09 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23f9111282 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:41:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202034104.WUQX1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:41:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC09D1.4060406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:41:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <20031202031324.74183.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031202031324.74183.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Many years ago I crocheted, but now it's needlepoint. Hey, hey! That's something else I've done! It was another one of those things that little girls were learn how to do. (My mother was quite good at it, I might add. I still have a beautiful piano-bench pad she needlepointed and gave me when I had an odd-sized piano bench. It's stuffed into the top of a closet, but I just can't bring myself to toss it.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:47:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23lkBp012244 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:47:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63D3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:46:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:46:54 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23ks111932 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:46:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.56]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202034649.WWMG1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:46:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC0B2A.3060907@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:46:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst References: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <24724312.1070317718@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <24724312.1070317718@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Where is Alec? Remember how he used to trash people for this kind of >> posting, asking why they didn't do it off-list? NB: I *like* this kind >> of posting. It's how Words-L works. I like that it works this way. >> But suddenly I started thinking about Alec's complaints and wondered why >> he seems erratic in them. >> >> -- > I freely stand up and say I intended to send it off-list, but in responding > to a note of Adam's didn't check off the appropriate box and the rest is > history. But please understand that I am glad you asked it on-list! I think that kind of thing is part or what Words-L is about. It's just that I suddenly thought about Alec's nasty comments to Bethany in particular every time she practiced the usual Words-L way. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:48:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23mpBp012255 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:48:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63D44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:47:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:47:59 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB23lx112221 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:47:59 -0500 Received: from [208.61.190.13] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:47:53 PST Message-ID: <20031202034753.67128.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCC0903.7040104@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > But just how many knitting clubs do you have? The > paucity might be > quite shocking to someone as easy shockable as Karen > apparently is. I guess I'd have to ask the Chamber of Commerce, there is bound to be at least one. I am not a joiner, I do solo needlepoint, and when I gossip, I "cut through" the chase. It takes a murder - suicide to shock my jaded spirit. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:50:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23ocBp012287 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:50:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63D47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:49:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:49:46 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23nj112550 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:49:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB23nikF004171 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:49:44 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB23nhmw004169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:49:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:49:43 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India Message-ID: <20031202034943.GE3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <169204249.20031201205820@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <169204249.20031201205820@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = > Hmmm. We're having a from/in problem. I (me personally) cannot = > replace "from" in my sentence above with "in". Yet you have still = > managed to get confused by it even though you do know how the = > world works and it does seem odd to you. = = I didn't understand it either. = I took a practice GMAT the other day and in the verbal part you have to find the best way of phrasing the underlined part of the sentence. I understood what they were trying to say but I had a miserable time trying to say it. How the hell am I going to try to go for an MBA if I find the premise of just getting through the standardized test too much to be bothered with? Just as surprising as my crumbling verbal skills were my crumbling math skills. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:52:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23qcBp012313 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:52:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63D61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:51:47 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23pk113063 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:51:46 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23pkEF021575 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:51:46 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23pkJx009106 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:51:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:51:45 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst Message-ID: <26111343.1070319105@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Have a good trip. We're bound for the Bay Area tomorrow, via Rockland and > the Farnsworth, Bath and a knitting store, and who knows where else. > > cwv May you have few flurries and your trip be fruitful. We've been threatened with flurries tomorrow. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 21:59:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB23xsBp012433 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:59:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002016EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:02 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23x2114003 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A63DB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312020359.hB23x2114003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:20:43 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> The current discussion calls the former 'throwers' (as in throwing the >> yarn over the needles) and the latter 'pickers'. I don't know anyone >> who knits with the needles down, btw--you can 'throw' with needles up. >> >> Karen, >> practicing fierce optimism > >Ah... I'm a thrower. That's how it has been passed down in my family. I >have seen someone knit Continental and I'm sure with practice could pick it >up, but I do just fine. Finished a fun fur scarf for my niece and am >starting mittens to match Edward's hat. > >Are there any crocheters out there? I don't do this as much. My >grandmother used to make beautiful doilies. She showed me how, but I don't >have the time or patience right now to do that fine work. She also >tattered, but I never learned that one. > >Terry Not wishing to post , but only to be truthful, yes, I learned to crochet on Ruth Ladd's porch the summer I was eight. I can crochet, knit, tat, net, make bobbin and needle lace including teneriffe, hardanger, hedebo, pulled thread, and cutwork, and also do freehand embroidery. I can't stand crosstitch, but know how. I do everything when the mood strikes and not much since my eyes changed and I have to wear glasses to thread a needle. I like crochet very much, but my daughter is much better at it than I, with a nice regular tenion; I am one of those relaxed needleworkers Karen was talking about earlier. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:00:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB240ZBp012460 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:00:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63DB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:44 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB23xh114177 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:43 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23xhEF021693 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:43 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB23xhJx010074 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:59:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:59:43 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst Message-ID: <26588750.1070319583@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCC0B2A.3060907@maynor.net> References: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <24724312.1070317718@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCC0B2A.3060907@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But please understand that I am glad you asked it on-list! I think that > kind of thing is part or what Words-L is about. It's just that I > suddenly thought about Alec's nasty comments to Bethany in particular > every time she practiced the usual Words-L way. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We are certainly generating bandwidth in his honor. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2444Bp012521 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:04:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00201759@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:03:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 69007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:03:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB243B115421 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:03:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00201757@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:03:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:03:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:56:44 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, December 01, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >> I think this works best as stress relief if there is a certain level of >> proficiency. > >I agree. I think these are also best when learned in one's youth. It >was nice to take up knitting again without missing a beat even though >it'd been many, many years. > Was Joe Namath in his youth when he took up needlecrafts? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:09:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB249NBp012602 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:09:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63F46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:08:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 70806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:08:30 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB248T116641 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:08:29 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB248SkF004209 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:08:28 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB248ROu004207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:08:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:08:27 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202040827.GF3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: = = I haven't used Usenet in so long that I doubt I know how anymore. = For casual reading, I use Google Groups. It's been so long since I've posted anything, I'd probably use it to post as well, giving it a throwaway account as an email address. You've probably got a newsreader installed in your browser, but you'll have to go read your ISP's web pages to figure out what news server to point it to. (browser without web. heh.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:15:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24FDBp012714 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:15:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002018EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:14:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 71958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:14:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24EB117521 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:14:11 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-132.gwi.net [216.195.151.132]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB24E9Ar072041 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:14:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201231335.00b47388@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:14:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <26111343.1070319105@TWild.uri.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Have a good trip. We're bound for the Bay Area tomorrow, via Rockland and >>the Farnsworth, Bath and a knitting store, and who knows where else. >>cwv > >May you have few flurries and your trip be fruitful. We've been threatened >with flurries tomorrow. --Terry This is starting out as one of those winters when all the snow goes to the south and west of Unreal Maine. I hope it doesn't continue that way forever. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:18:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24ISBp012786 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A63FE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:17:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:17:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24HZ118109 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:17:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24GuDS019826 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:16:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:17:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1084300898.20031201221734@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202031059.73475.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031202031059.73475.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Yes, we have. We even have a Mexican grocery store. > But I've never seen fresh meats in there. Chorizo is often packaged. I would have thought that every Mexican grocery would have chorizo and a couple kinds of Mexican cheese. But I know nothing--I don't eat Mexican food except under duress. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:19:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24JpBp012820 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:19:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A63FFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:18:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:18:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24Iw118213 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:18:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24Is6X020421 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:18:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <965890315.20031201221854@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <23996234.1070316990@TWild.uri.edu> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <23996234.1070316990@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >> Tatted. No r. >> > Exactly. That darn Rhode Island r now shows up in my writing! Thank you. That's the joke that was niggling in the back of my mind that I couldn't quite formulate. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:25:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24PWBp012972 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:25:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A64021@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:24:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:24:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24Oe118681 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:24:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24O1DS027503 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:24:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:24:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <755969982.20031201222436@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCC06F9.6070701@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDA3F.4070606@maynor.net> <1264724400.20031201182754@WordWrite.com> <3FCBE4FE.60305@maynor.net> <1325424032.20031201204917@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0098.5060501@maynor.net> <794358286.20031201210659@WordWrite.com> <3FCC06F9.6070701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>?? So why do you say that you were talking about where it's from >>>instead of where you get it, when you clearly said "get it"? >> >> I never said I was talking about where it's from. I said *he* was >> talking about where it's from. > ??? You said this: >>>>>>>>>I would be surprised if there's anywhere in the US you can't get it. Yes, I did. I was expanding the subject of conversation. > You were pretty obviously, at least in my mutant view, talking about > where one GETS it. That's right. >> It wasn't a nonsequitur, it was an expansion of the topic. You are the >> queen of this, so I'm surprised you don't recognize it. > I'm a great believer in subject morphs, as I've said many times before. > But that is quite a different thing from claiming that "where it's > from" and "where one gets it" mean the same thing. But I didn't. You're making that claim. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24QMBp012985 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:26:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6400B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:25:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:25:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24PU118781 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:25:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24OpDS028384 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:24:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:25:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <172094185.20031201222530@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCC0903.7040104@maynor.net> References: <20031202031059.73475.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCC0903.7040104@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: >>>I find that shocking. You have no Latino >>>population?! >> ... >> For some reason, this leaves me unshocked. > But just how many knitting clubs do you have? The paucity might be > quite shocking to someone as easy shockable as Karen apparently is. The idea of a 'knitting club' shocks me. I've never heard of such a thing. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:27:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24RlBp012995 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:27:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6400D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:26:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:26:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24Qs118855 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:26:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24Qo6X028435 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:26:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:26:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1117606234.20031201222651@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Have a good trip. We're bound for the Bay Area tomorrow, via Rockland and > the Farnsworth, Bath and a knitting store, and who knows where else. I hope your plane doesn't leave tomorrow. I don't think you can do Halcyon and fly in the same day. (Halycon being the yarn store and not the drug....) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24SaBp013003 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:28:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64018@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:27:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24Ri119015 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:27:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24RW6X029110 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:27:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:27:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > = > = I hope I always have shell access since that sounds above my head. All > = I know how to do is long on and vi the pages. > = > = -- > = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > May you always have shell access. > But, should the time come when you don't, have no fear. You have > learned to navigate PPP connections with Trumpet Winsock and ADSL > connections, and are from a time before Mosaic and popping mail. > You'll figure it out (you'll bitch mightily, but you'll figure it > out). Dreamweaver makes it simple. I loooooove Dreamweaver. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:31:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24UxBp013055 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020192C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:30:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:30:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24U7119330 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:30:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24U1rm002779 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:30:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:30:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <282270674.20031201223001@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <20031202034943.GE3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <169204249.20031201205820@WordWrite.com> <20031202034943.GE3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > How the hell am I going to try to go for an MBA if I find the > premise of just getting through the standardized test too much to > be bothered with? Are you going to do an American MBA or a Dutch one? > Just as surprising as my crumbling verbal skills were my > crumbling math skills. I'm surprised at your crumbling math skills, not surprised at your crumbling verbal skills. Both will come back quickly. You may actually have to study for the exam, though. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:32:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24WGBp013062 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:32:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64033@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:31:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:31:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24VO119456 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:31:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24UjDS005107 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:30:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1852095943.20031201223124@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312020359.hB23x2114003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312020359.hB23x2114003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I am one of those relaxed needleworkers Karen was > talking about earlier. :) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:33:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24X4Bp013074 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:33:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64022@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:32:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:32:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24WC119533 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:32:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24VXDS005867 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:31:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:32:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1936905727.20031201223211@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:56:44 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Monday, December 01, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >>> I think this works best as stress relief if there is a certain level of >>> proficiency. >> >>I agree. I think these are also best when learned in one's youth. It >>was nice to take up knitting again without missing a beat even though >>it'd been many, many years. >> > Was Joe Namath in his youth when he took up needlecrafts? I have no idea. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:34:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24Y9Bp013083 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:34:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64035@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:33:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 72811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:33:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24XH119576 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:33:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24X7rm005761 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:33:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:33:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655620701.20031201223308@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Was Joe Namath in his youth when he took up needlecrafts? I still don't have any idea, but I was going to say that at least one of the men in my meeting knits. He always is knitting very manly looking things. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24fUBp013217 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:41:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6404B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:40:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:40:37 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24ea120371 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:40:36 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB24eZkF004414 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:40:35 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB24eWut004412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:40:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:40:32 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Dreamweaver makes it simple. I loooooove Dreamweaver. = = Karen, = practicing fierce optimism I have Dreamweaver on my work laptop, but I cannot get into it. It's too cumbersome for the simple stuff. I just can't find quickly enough stuff I want to do now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:57:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24viBp013487 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:57:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64077@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:56:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:56:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24up121550 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:56:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB24unkF004434 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:56:49 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB24unpD004432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:56:49 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:56:49 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India Message-ID: <20031202045649.GB4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <169204249.20031201205820@WordWrite.com> <20031202034943.GE3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <282270674.20031201223001@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <282270674.20031201223001@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: = > How the hell am I going to try to go for an MBA if I find the = > premise of just getting through the standardized test too much to = > be bothered with? = = Are you going to do an American MBA or a Dutch one? Probably a Dutch one. I'm in no hurry to go anywhere, and the Rotterdam School of Management and Nyenrode both have excellent reputations (if I'm just aiming right now, I might as well aim for the top). It's been bubbling around in my head for the past two years, and I still haven't got my goals straight for why I'm going to go for this, which is going to be rather key for admission, I've gathered. I'm still farting aroung with this in a way that I don't even have a good timeline for the thing put together. That said, the University of Chicago has an outpost in Barcelona that's tempting. = = > Just as surprising as my crumbling verbal skills were my = > crumbling math skills. = = I'm surprised at your crumbling math skills, not surprised at your = crumbling verbal skills. Both will come back quickly. You may actually = have to study for the exam, though. = Oh yeah. No doubts there. It's just going to take a bit of persistent effort. What was amazing to me about my completely crumbled verbal skills was not that they'd gone, but how far they'd gone. That, and that while I shift and sort stuff all the time for work, the shifting and sorting that go into writing a coherent essay are somehow different. Also, it's an online test that you need to use scratch paper for, and even that backandforthing is going to take practice. It's a damn distracting way to take a test. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 22:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB24wDBp013490 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:58:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A64084@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:57:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:57:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB24vK121615 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:57:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB24ufDS000334 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:56:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:57:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <1381792312.20031201183154@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > I have Dreamweaver on my work laptop, but I cannot get into it. I took an online class through the HP Learning Center that helped. > It's too cumbersome for the simple stuff. I just can't find > quickly enough stuff I want to do now. I basically use the view that's half code and half the web page, so you can see what you're doing. I also like the fact that you see the whole directory structure you're working in, and you can see the whole directory structure of the site you're uploading to. I've found that very useful. I don't think it's any more cumbersome than using vi or emacs, and it has the advantage of directory trees and painless ftp. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 23:33:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB25XhBp014073 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:33:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00201A12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 0:32:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 75257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:32:16 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB253O122973 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:03:24 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB253MkF004456 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:03:22 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB253MXD004454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:03:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:03:22 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: = > I have Dreamweaver on my work laptop, but I cannot get into it. = = I took an online class through the HP Learning Center that helped. = = > It's too cumbersome for the simple stuff. I just can't find = > quickly enough stuff I want to do now. = = I basically use the view that's half code and half the web page, so = you can see what you're doing. I also like the fact that you see the Does this mean that you're using the bottom half to code by hand in, and not really using lots of features of the application? This does give me a way of looking at how to start using it more effectively though. So thanks. = whole directory structure you're working in, and you can see the whole = directory structure of the site you're uploading to. I've found that = very useful. = = I don't think it's any more cumbersome than using vi or emacs, and it = has the advantage of directory trees and painless ftp. = Yes, that does sound useful, but so far nothing I've been doing is that complicated. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 23:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB25Z5Bp014080 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00201A79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 0:34:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 76122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:32:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB25JQ124397 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:19:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB25IlDS019352 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:18:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:19:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1487343695.20031201231926@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: India In-Reply-To: <20031202045649.GB4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <001201c3b79a$98f75b20$dbcadece@0018079268> <1354172878.20031130180956@WordWrite.com> <20031201161521.GC2324@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FCBC9E4.3060700@maynor.net> <20031202025442.GA3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <169204249.20031201205820@WordWrite.com> <20031202034943.GE3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <282270674.20031201223001@WordWrite.com> <20031202045649.GB4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > It's been bubbling around in my head for the past > two years, and I still haven't got my goals straight for why I'm > going to go for this, which is going to be rather key for > admission, I've gathered. I do think you need to clarify your goals. But I have no doubt that you can do this and be successful at what you want to be. > What was amazing to me about my completely crumbled verbal skills > was not that they'd gone, but how far they'd gone. Oh, yes. I think I've talked before about confusing r's and l's in writing letters. That's when I knew I had to come back. It happens drip drip drip every day, and then whammo, something reminds you that you are becoming a stranger to your native language. I knew someone like that, who wasn't really comfortable in Japanese but couldn't speak English well any more. (She was a Nisei who was visiting Japan and was caught by the war; ended up getting married and staying there.) > That, and that while I shift and sort stuff all the time for work, > the shifting and sorting that go into writing a coherent essay are > somehow different. Yes. And to be fair, you might have trouble writing an essay anyway, even if you were here. > Also, it's an online test that you need to use scratch paper for, > and even that backandforthing is going to take practice. It's a > damn distracting way to take a test. HA! I did that recently for something else. Sucks. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 23:46:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB25kuBp014284 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:46:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6421B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 0:46:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:46:03 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB25k3127440 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:46:03 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB25hr2d019346 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:43:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3b897$5c1bbcc0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20589421.1070313583@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBF7F1.8080404@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:44:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > taking up hand crafts as a way to relieve stress and connect with other > > Different strokes are becoming clearer and clearer to me. The idea of > relieving stress via hand crafts boggles my mind. I find hand crafts > horrendously stress-producing. Trying to do craftish stuff makes me > want to scream. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have done all kinds of sewing, knitting, crocheting, counted cross stitch, needlepoint, embroidery, etc. . . . and I do them specifically because I find it so relaxing. I am never in my intellect when I do these things, and it clears my mind to just quit using it for a while. Handwork is like a meditation, to me. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 1 23:51:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB25p6Bp014365 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:51:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64234@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 0:50:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 77343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:50:13 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB25oD127941 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:50:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB25o92d008104 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:50:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003301c3b898$3c6e30a0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:50:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Was Joe Namath in his youth when he took up needlecrafts? > > clo Or Rosie Grier? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:03:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2D3QBp020563 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:03:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00201EC8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:02:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:02:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:6k7VcrC1a6v4fwcapUPniuACMK+sM7Ua@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2D2K115838 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:02:20 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E888A305ED for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641EA23346 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:02:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FCB267A.5000501@maynor.net> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:02:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> How do you feel about linguica? Does it fall into the sausage or >> non-sausage category for you? > >It doesn't fall into any category for me. I've never heard of it. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I long ago had to give up my cosmopolitan cred, but this is one of those little things that reminds me how little I know about that part of America which is east of the Rockies. For me, linguica is one of the standard pizza items. Not that every pizza place has linguica on its menu, but enough pizza places do that anyone who even occasionally goes out for pizza would have seen it often enough to at least ask what it is. It astonishes me to find that linguica is regarded as a food item in much of these United States. I really need to travel more. For what it's worth, maybe it's just that I've never had the good stuff, but I'm not particularly fond of linguica, nor chorizo either. Ken Miller Organoleptics Department California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:16:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2DGwBp020789 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:16:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00201F03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:16:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:16:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2DG2117214 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:16:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2DFxrm025151 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:16:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:16:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBDE8C.8070603@swbell.net> <3FCBE55D.30206@maynor.net> <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > Does this mean that you're using the bottom half to code by hand > in, and not really using lots of features of the application? Top half; bottom half shows the html output. > This does give me a way of looking at how to start using it more > effectively though. So thanks. I really do believe that Dreamweaver was designed by geeks who coded by hand for a long time. It's NOTHING like Front Page. It's genuinely useful. Part of the reason I feel that way, I think, is because every time I wish Dreamweaver could do something, I discovered it did. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:25:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2DPVBp020850 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:25:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64683@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:24:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:24:35 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2DOZ118380 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:24:35 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:24:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:24:08 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Pictures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB2DPVBp020850 Nice pictures! Thanks for sharing them! BrP >>> dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM 11/29/03 11:23AM >>> Pictures from Florida: 1. Gene and me with son and his 2 kids. DIL is taking the picture, of course. 2. Grandaughter as she was discovered in the bathroom after her mother realized it had been too quiet in there for a long time. http://tinyurl.com/wzrg - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:30:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2DUbBp020910 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:30:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00201F46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:29:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:29:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BaFSl5zLkdyfzLN8JbJVwYV9mHnlYF3Y@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2DTb118897 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:29:37 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5954B305A4 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD38323349 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:29:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031201173123.87781.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is there consecrated ground for expired kitchen appliances? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:29:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 9:31 AM -0800 12/1/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >time) by saying that NPR has a definite liberal >> bias, >> ^^^^^^^ >> Excuse me, but I think you misspelled the word >> "moderate". > >Can moderation or subjectivity be a bias? I don't know why you're dragging in subjectivity, nor moderation either. "Moderate" is an area on the political spectrum, just the same as "conservative" or "liberal". A person or a news outlet may have a preference (a bias, if you will) for viewing the world in moderate terms just as one may have a preference for viewing the world in conservative or liberal terms, in exactly the same way that a person may have a preference for being neither fat nor thin but somewhere in the middle. >> >which please its listeners and "turns off" some of >> its >> >potential listeners. >> >> And I concur in your assessment. > >The assessment, but not the modifier? Exactly. An audience which has a conservative bias is going to be turned off by any news outlet that does not. They may not be as turned off by a moderate outlet as by a liberal one, but turned off they will be. >Try watching or listening to Public Radio and TV fund >raisers in Alabama. Paid commercials can be >entertaining. Fund-raising in AL is not. I don't know anything about public broadcasting in Alabama, nor for that matter about public TV in California. But I do know that my local NPR station has raised fund-raising to an art form. Ken Miller James G. Blain School of Campaign Cleanliness From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:49:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2DnnBp021144 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:49:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64745@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:48:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:48:48 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Dml122891 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:48:47 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-43.gwi.net [216.195.150.43]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB2DmZGp024626; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:48:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031202084331.00b1c1f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:48:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <3FCB267A.5000501@maynor.net> <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:02 AM 12/2/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >It astonishes me to find that linguica is regarded as a food item >in much of these United States. I really need to travel more. I don't recall seeing linguica commonly in stores in east Tennessee, but it's pretty common here on the New England coast---again perhaps because of the Portugese influence. I don't think it is considered foreign any more than Andouille, pepperoni, and chorizo are. Chorizo, incidentally is also fairly common around here in the specialty or high-end shops; linguica (and another Portugese-origin sausage which name escapes me) are in the supermarkets. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:51:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2DpsBp021158 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:51:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64767@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:50:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:50:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Dov123223 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:50:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00201FF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:50:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312021350.hB2Dov123223@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:50:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:03:22 +0100, steph wrote: >Karen Kay: >= On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: >= > I have Dreamweaver on my work laptop, but I cannot get into it. >= >= I took an online class through the HP Learning Center that helped. >= >= > It's too cumbersome for the simple stuff. I just can't find >= > quickly enough stuff I want to do now. >= >= I basically use the view that's half code and half the web page, so >= you can see what you're doing. I also like the fact that you see the > >Does this mean that you're using the bottom half to code by hand >in, and not really using lots of features of the application? >This does give me a way of looking at how to start using it more >effectively though. So thanks. > I highly recommend that attitude (of using the dual view, and working in the piece that's easiest). I dump large amounts of text into the webview, format quickly using the commands in that view (for instance, highlighting a bit of text and rightclicking "properties" lets me quickly add links, choose font and size, etc), and turn to the code view for finetuning. >= whole directory structure you're working in, and you can see the whole >= directory structure of the site you're uploading to. I've found that >= very useful. >= >= I don't think it's any more cumbersome than using vi or emacs, and it >= has the advantage of directory trees and painless ftp. >= > >Yes, that does sound useful, but so far nothing I've been doing >is that complicated. What's nice about having both views open is that you can check the effects of coding quickly, to see if you've made a typo. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:56:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2Du8Bp021211 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:56:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6476D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:55:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:55:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2DtC123783 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:55:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-43.gwi.net [216.195.150.43]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB2Dt7Av016351; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:55:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031202084918.00b35738@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:52:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <26111343.1070319105@TWild.uri.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201223616.00b7d250@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:51 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>Have a good trip. We're bound for the Bay Area tomorrow, via Rockland and >>the Farnsworth, Bath and a knitting store, and who knows where else. >> >>cwv > >May you have few flurries and your trip be fruitful. We've been threatened >with flurries tomorrow. We are maintaining our tradition of going to the Bay Area in times of thermal extremes. Usually, in January, we are there during the coldest week of the winter; this past summer, we were there during the hottest days, now we are headed back during the (so far) coldest days of this late autumn. No flurries here, although they were muttering about them last night. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 07:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2Du9Bp021214 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:56:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64780@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 8:55:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:55:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2DtD123788 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:55:13 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-43.gwi.net [216.195.150.43]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB2Dt7Ax016351; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:55:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031202085223.00b51918@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:55:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <26588750.1070319583@TWild.uri.edu> References: <3FCC0B2A.3060907@maynor.net> <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> <24724312.1070317718@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCC0B2A.3060907@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:59 PM 12/1/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>But please understand that I am glad you asked it on-list! I think that >>kind of thing is part or what Words-L is about. It's just that I >>suddenly thought about Alec's nasty comments to Bethany in particular >>every time she practiced the usual Words-L way. >> >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >We are certainly generating bandwidth in his honor. Not that Alec needs anyone to defend him, but as I recall, his comments came after an exceedingly prolonged and pointless discussion of travel plans and options that grew out of one of her "Dear Diary" periods. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2E2PBp021327 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:02:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:01:29 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2E1T124480 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:01:29 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP9005EHTMGKA@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:57:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:57:18 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2eb3162eb444.2eb4442eb316@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > For me, linguica is one of the standard pizza items. Not that > every pizza > place has linguica on its menu, but enough pizza places do that > anyone who > even occasionally goes out for pizza would have seen it often > enough to at > least ask what it is. I eat of pizza, but the only time I've ever seen linguica on the menu was at Mystic Pizza in Connecticut. No wonder. I think your statement a vast generalization, and not the case in many pizza-eating parts of the country. Like ones where Italians are making the pizza... I was shocked not to find andouille (for my turkey gumbo) at the A&P yesterday. Good thing Bruce still goes into the city. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:09:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2E9DBp021463 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:09:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00202043@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:08:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:08:17 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2E8H126079 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:08:17 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 36119674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:08:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCC9CD0.707@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:08:16 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <4.2.2.20031128201802.00abe100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC8C08F.1060009@maynor.net> <409551040.20031129095957@WordWrite.com> <3FC8C776.1000608@maynor.net> <156151038.20031129104512@WordWrite.com> <1788311818.20031129104710@WordWrite.com> <3FC8D083.20854438@maynor.net> <20031129184313.GB19181@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC8EA3C.35778569@maynor.net> <001201c3b6d2$83d88b60$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCB3DE6.7080209@bc.edu> <000401c3b82d$9103f2a0$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCB770E.5080109@bc.edu> <000601c3b868$389982c0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000601c3b868$389982c0$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>That, of course, depends on the expectations that you build as you >>read. >> >>Rita L. >> >> > >The complaint in several reviews was >that the story ended too abruptly. > > - D. M. > > Expect a sequel :-) I agree that it ends abruptly but it does pave the way for more. Rita L. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2EDFBp021526 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:13:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020205C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:12:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 6375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:12:19 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2EC1126801 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:12:01 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2EBsEF001657 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:11:54 -0500 Received: from [131.128.223.87] ([131.128.223.87]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2EBrK0009432 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:11:54 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2e19fc2de112.2de1122e19fc@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:11:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Emily and I ate there - the year the red cat opened. The food >> and the place were both terrific. Time for a repeat visit. > >I agree. But then again, now there are the other Jimmy Bradley restaurants as well. I haven't yet tried The Mermaid (nor have I even started the model to hang there), but I much prefer The Red cat to The Harrison. /Jim > >Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:26:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2EQjBp021722 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:26:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:25:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:25:42 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2EPg129588 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:25:42 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB2EPd2d004152 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:25:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002a01c3b8e0$3ddec2e0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031201180434.00a31500@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:26:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > . > I crocheted an afghan once when I was trying to quit smoking. Needed to > keep my hands busy. > > Betty > I hardangered myself away from the habit. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:30:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2EUjBp021788 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:30:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00202107@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 7944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:29:49 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2ETm130868 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:29:48 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 36121497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCCA1DC.3010404@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:29:48 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Until that fateful day, I hold my breath and pine > fiercely for just one bite of its firm, succulent and spicey > flesh with just a little greasey juice running down my chin. > And some scrambled eggs. With a little salt. And maybe > some toasted and buttered sweet bread. That would be pretty > good. > > > I'm going to make a mess of the spelling here but what do you think of locanico? I used to be able to find it locally but have not for quite a long time. I might be more successful if I would travel to Lowell to shop. Nah, not doing that. Rita L. -- "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:46:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2EkjBp021935 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:46:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6493A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:45:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 9224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:45:49 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Ejn102346 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:45:49 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP900E06VJI9K@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:38:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:38:46 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Heather To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <336c7f337f72.337f72336c7f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Below is what I believe are some of the last messages from Heather. At the time she was still with the chocolate guy but not at the chocolate job. Marie Natalie: > Adam Hartfield wrote: > >>Has anyone heard from Heather? > > Not since her surprise SnowBash visit 3 or 4 years ago. > > I thought we had heard from her since then. It's stuck in my head > thatshe gave us a follow-up report about her Chocolat Man -- that > they were > no longer together. Does anybody remember that? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:47:18 -0500 From: "Heather \"Wicked Cute\" Hewitt" Subject: Re: Concerning Bookrat >Remember when you had Wordsler Heather in your bed and she was posting to >the list?? I wonder whatever became of Heather. Someone should tell the >newbies the story of her and Tushar. That story isn't very interesting. Heather works for the government now, while trying to figure out what to do about law schools. I think Sylvia found my web page, but it's a bit out of date. Hi guys :) heather Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:58:24 -0500 From: "Heather \"Wicked Cute\" Hewitt" Subject: Re: Concerning Bookrat By the way, if anyone wants to email me, do so at heatherhewitt@aol.com I don't read the igraine account that much. Nice to see you guys again. hugs, h Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:53:43 -0500 From: "Heather \"Wicked Cute\" Hewitt" Subject: Re: Concerning Bookrat Ergin' Queen wrote: > I wonder whatever became of Heather. and then Natalie wrote: >Less than a year ago she was working at a chocolate factory and >apparently in love with the chocolate-maker -- or was he the chocolate >factory's poet? Something like that. No, he wrote chocolate comic >books, didn't he? We ate the chocolate and read his works. At >AdamLH's apartment. Last March. After that I worked at UMASS in the budget office, and now I work for the government. Woo-hoo. Maybe someday I'll be a lawyer. Right now I devote far too much time to a certain improv comedy group... I'm still in love with the guy who designed the chocolate bars. 2 years now. A new Heather record. But how is my favorie Bookrat? h"wc"h Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:13:37 -0500 From: "Heather \"Wicked Cute\" Hewitt" Subject: Re: Concerning Bookrat My Favorite Koala Wrote: >The club is anything but exclusive. >That sounds much racier than it actually is. And you got a massage, to boot. How have you been? Ye Olde ListFlirt From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 08:58:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2EwQBp022046 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:58:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A649AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 9:57:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 10506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:57:30 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2EvU104872 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:57:30 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP900I9CW16OP@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:49:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:49:20 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Thickness. The turkey, stuffing, and cranberry make for a > > heavy sandwich -- you need a bread that can hold it. > > That is how I had interpreted what you wrote. So now I need to > find out > what Marie meant by . Betty said she likes breads, which I interpret as either dense or crusty. But most of my turkey sandwich eating has always been on floppier loaf breads (that's how I was raised), and with good results. And toast is a fine thing too. I'm sure more breads are fine too, but not necessary. Just don't pile it too high. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 09:15:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2FFVBp022263 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:15:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64A68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:14:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:14:34 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2FEY109070 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:14:34 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP9008W0X0XLU@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:10:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:10:24 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2f353b2f8080.2f80802f353b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >May you have few flurries and your trip be fruitful. We've been > threatened>with flurries tomorrow. --Terry > > This is starting out as one of those winters when all the snow > goes to the > south and west of Unreal Maine. I hope it doesn't continue that > way forever. We got enough of a dusting to be a surprise to wake up to and a little slippery on the stairs. Laszlo's first snow -- he seemed to like it. He rain. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 09:20:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2FKgBp022364 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:20:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A64ABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:19:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 12855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:19:38 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2FJb110288 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:19:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 412 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 15:19:36 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-8.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 15:19:36 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6122F11DB for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:19:36 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070378376!878135 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: UMASS, Amherst Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:19:37 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01c3b8e7$b2b35840$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <3FCC0480.2030400@maynor.net> Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB2FJb110289 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:18 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst > > >Adam Hartfield wrote: > >>> Hope you can help me. I need some basic info on getting to UMASS, >>>Amherst. We have tickets to a 2pm showing of the Nutcracker >by the Moscow >>>Ballet on Sat. I figure about 2.5 hours to Springfield, and >then how much >>>farther north from you is it? >> >> >> It's about a half hour north of West Springfield, but plan >on heavy traffic >> on Route 9 between 91 and Amherst, so I'd budget between 45 >minutes and 60 >> minutes to get from Exit 4 of the pike to Amherst. >> >> You can also get off the Pike at exit 8, Palmer, and take >Route 32 north, >> but I don't know exactly where that puts you. Maybe it >intersects with 9? >> There's a sign for UMASS at that exit, but I've never done >it that way. >> >> --Adam > >Where is Alec? Remember how he used to trash people for this kind of >posting, asking why they didn't do it off-list? NB: I *like* >this kind >of posting. It's how Words-L works. I like that it works this way. >But suddenly I started thinking about Alec's complaints and >wondered why >he seems erratic in them. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > This kind of chat did not bother me at all. That is what makes words-l work. When you and Bethany were planning a trip and boring us with the details, that was the part that pissed me off. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 09:57:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2FvfBp023020 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:57:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A64C26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:56:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:56:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Fuig18935 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:56:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2FufW1009193 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:56:41 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2FueWq009174; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:56:41 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:52:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:49 AM 12/2/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Thickness. The turkey, stuffing, and cranberry make for a > > > heavy sandwich -- you need a bread that can hold it. > > > > That is how I had interpreted what you wrote. So now I need to > > find out > > what Marie meant by . > >Betty said she likes breads, which I interpret as either >dense or crusty. But most of my turkey sandwich eating has always been on >floppier loaf breads (that's how I was raised), and with good results. And >toast is a fine thing too. I'm sure more breads are fine >too, but not necessary. Just don't pile it too high. > >Marie I do like denser bread usually but sometimes, like in potato chip sandwiches, white bread rules! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 10:22:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2GM8Bp023357 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:22:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64D0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:21:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:21:11 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2GLBg24545 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:21:11 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA007M102DQJ@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:16:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:16:29 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <34aaa834db8d.34db8d34aaa8@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We got enough of a dusting to be a surprise to wake up to and a > little slippery on the stairs. Laszlo's first snow -- he seemed to > like it. He rain. > > Marie Actually, now it's snowing ! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 10:23:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2GNSBp023391 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:23:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00202523@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:22:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:22:31 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2GMVg24889 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:22:31 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA00KWE04PYY@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:17:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:17:51 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3369a0332af6.332af63369a0@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I haven't yet tried The Mermaid (nor have I even started the model > to hang there), > but I much prefer The Red cat to The Harrison. Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? It's been a while. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 10:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2GvtBp023890 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:57:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00202658@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:56:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:56:58 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Guwg00661 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:56:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A64ED5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:56:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312021656.hB2Guwg00661@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:56:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:17:51 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> I haven't yet tried The Mermaid (nor have I even started the model >> to hang there), >> but I much prefer The Red cat to The Harrison. > >Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? It's been a while. > >Marie I might be cajoled into doing this - I haven't been to "" in 30 years or so. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HC3Bp024107 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:12:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A64F46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:11:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:11:06 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HB5g04075 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:11:05 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA00G5B2C5WF@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:05:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:05:25 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <347e99346727.346727347e99@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I might be cajoled into doing this - I haven't been to " City>" in 30 > years or so. Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays -- like in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that time? I'll need to get a babysitter for the Red Dog. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:18:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HIpBp024196 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:18:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64F80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:17:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:17:54 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HHrg05480 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:17:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2HHqeO011626 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:17:52 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2HHpa2011597; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:17:52 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202091029.00b7bba8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:13:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <200312021656.hB2Guwg00661@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:56 AM 12/2/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:17:51 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> >wrote: > > >> I haven't yet tried The Mermaid (nor have I even started the model > >> to hang there), > >> but I much prefer The Red cat to The Harrison. > > > >Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? It's >been a while. > > > >Marie > >I might be cajoled into doing this - I haven't been to "" in 30 >years or so. I just got notice of great prices from the Bay Area to New York. It's tempting. Ryan and Lorinda may fly to Phoenix for the Bowl Game there on the 2th. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HJfBp024202 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A64F99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:18:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:18:43 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HIhg05637 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:18:43 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2HIf2f028181 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:18:42 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2HIeJC028128; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:18:40 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202091330.00b5ef18@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:14:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <347e99346727.346727347e99@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:05 PM 12/2/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > I might be cajoled into doing this - I haven't been to " > City>" in 30 > > years or so. > >Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays -- like >in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that time? > >I'll need to get a babysitter for the Red Dog. I loved that book. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HMMBp024243 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:22:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A64FB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:21:25 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HLPg06207 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:21:25 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA00LER2U5LZ@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:16:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:16:19 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <354b2035738c.35738c354b20@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I'll need to get a babysitter for the Red Dog. > > I loved that book. > > Betty Clifford The Big Red Dog? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:23:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HN6Bp024251 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:23:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00202725@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:22:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:22:08 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2HM8g06459 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:22:08 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:22:02 PST Message-ID: <20031202172202.33631.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <003301c3b898$3c6e30a0$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Was Joe Namath in his youth when he took up > needlecrafts? > > > > clo > > Or Rosie Grier? Or Sylvia Sidney? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:25:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HPiBp024294 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:25:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:24:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 25363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:24:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HOgg07170 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:24:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2HOcrm016143 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:24:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:24:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <471839576.20031202112441@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <347e99346727.346727347e99@optonline.net> References: <347e99346727.346727347e99@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays -- > like in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that > time? Is it possible for two to leave Syracuse at that time? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:29:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HTsBp024335 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:29:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65060@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:28:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:28:57 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HSvg08354 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:28:57 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA002E8386MH@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:24:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:24:44 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <356d0c357a8d.357a8d356d0c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays > -- > > like in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that > > time? > > Is it possible for two to leave Syracuse at that time? > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism That would be fiercely optimistic! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:30:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HUsBp024363 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:30:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65069@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:29:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:29:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2HTug08582 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:29:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2HTtW1005182 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:29:55 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2HTsWq005116; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:29:54 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202092451.00b80ea8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:25:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <354b2035738c.35738c354b20@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:16 PM 12/2/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >I'll need to get a babysitter for the Red Dog. > > > > I loved that book. > > > > Betty > >Clifford The Big Red Dog? > >Marie Yes! I forgot Clifford's name. Thanks. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:33:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HX5Bp024382 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:33:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6509E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:31:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:31:57 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2HVvg09131 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:31:57 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:31:50 PST Message-ID: <20031202173150.92107.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:31:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > > >> >which please its listeners and "turns off" some > of > >> its > >> >potential listeners. > >> > >> And I concur in your assessment. > > > >The assessment, but not the modifier? > > Exactly. An audience which has a conservative bias > is going to be turned > off by any news outlet that does not. They may not > be as turned off by a > moderate outlet as by a liberal one, but turned off > they will be. > > >Try watching or listening to Public Radio and TV > fund > >raisers in Alabama. Paid commercials can be > >entertaining. Fund-raising in AL is not. > > I don't know anything about public broadcasting in > Alabama, nor for that > matter about public TV in California. But I do know > that my local NPR > station has raised fund-raising to an art form. I may suggest to the "suits" at WBHM/NPR that they monitor and emulate CA NPR. What do they have to lose? A change in format and personalities in AL NPR fund-raising might prove very profitable. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 11:52:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2HqeBp024648 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:52:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6515E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2Hpgg13426 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:51:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:51:27 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB2HqeBp024648 :-) I like the term "fierce optimism" BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/02/03 12:24PM >>> On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays -- > like in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that > time? Is it possible for two to leave Syracuse at that time? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2I1mBp024798 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002028D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2I0og15265 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2I0meO018905 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:00:48 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2I0la2018890; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:00:47 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:56:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I do, too. It's my favorite of all her sig's. Betty At 12:51 PM 12/2/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >:-) > >I like the term "fierce optimism" > >BrP > > > >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/02/03 12:24PM >>> >On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays -- > > like in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that > > time? > >Is it possible for two to leave Syracuse at that time? > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2I54Bp024850 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:05:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020291E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:04:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:04:06 -0500 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail.mursuky.edu [216.249.159.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2I45g15793 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:04:05 -0500 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (7.0.008) id 3FC4CD450005F280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:02:39 -0600 Message-ID: <011401c3b8fe$37f4cd20$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:00:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ryan and Lorinda may fly to Phoenix for the Bowl Game there on the 2th. >Betty Ah! And that is the day we are flying out of Phoenix. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:07:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2I70Bp024875 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:07:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A651BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 29725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2I62g16044 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2I5MDS009591 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:05:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:06:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <76571385.20031202120603@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > I do, too. It's my favorite of all her sig's. Thank you, Sweet Betty. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:21:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2ILSBp025105 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:21:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020296B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:20:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:20:30 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2IKUg18253 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:20:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020299E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312021820.hB2IKUg18253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:20:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:24:44 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >From: Karen Kay >> On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > Wow. Thirty years. When can we do this? Maybe after the holidays >> -- >> > like in January? Is it possible for one to leave Syracuse at that >> > time? >> >> Is it possible for two to leave Syracuse at that time? >> >> Karen, >> practicing fierce optimism > >That would be fiercely optimistic! > >Marie That depends on what you mean by "holidays". The semester opens Jan 10, and it's difficult indeed to leave work during the start of the new semester - and we have had heavy snowfalls in the first 2 weeks of the New Year the last couple of years. If you mean "MLKJr" weekend, it would be tough. If you mean "the end of January or early Feb", I think it would be workable, dependent on snow. There is usually a week of thaw, typically during the local WinterFest. So it's not all blizzards! When is Snowbash, though? I'd hate to interfere with Adam's party! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:24:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IOOBp025162 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:24:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65242@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:23:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 30244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:23:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2IDRg16981 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:13:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2ICJAE005073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:12:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:13:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot play bridge. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:28:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2ISqBp025245 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:28:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65268@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:27:54 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2IRrg19370 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:27:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 24477 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:27:47 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-5.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:27:47 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D8210E0 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:27:47 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070389667!4962 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:27:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000101c3b901$fc9f9ad0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bethany K. Dumas >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:13 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Knitting > > >I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot >play bridge. > >Bethany > Only three? If I admitted only three, people who know would laugh greatly. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:29:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2ITXBp025275 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:29:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6527D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:28:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:28:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2ISPg19414 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:28:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2ISCrm013383 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:28:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:28:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1584534735.20031202122816@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot > play bridge. Why do you consider these 'great deficiencies'? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:41:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IfuBp025418 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:41:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A652F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:40:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:40:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2IUwg19773 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:30:58 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2ITpOn012834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:29:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:30:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <000101c3b901$fc9f9ad0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Message-ID: References: <000101c3b901$fc9f9ad0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot >>play bridge. > >Only three? If I admitted only three, people who know would laugh greatly. >Only three? If I admitted only three, people who know would laugh greatly. I THOUGHT that would bring you out of hiding, Alec! But are all your deficiencies ? No ones? (Posting great?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:42:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IgaBp025427 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:42:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A652DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:41:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:41:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2IVcg19881 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:31:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2IUWOn013047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:30:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <1584534735.20031202122816@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> <1584534735.20031202122816@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot >> play bridge. > >Why do you consider these 'great deficiencies'? Because obviously (quoting) most people knit, crochet, and play bridge. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:47:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IlNBp025478 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:47:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65312@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:46:25 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2IkPg21949 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:46:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 24793 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2003 18:46:19 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-2.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2003 18:46:19 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BDB13F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070390779!882995 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:46:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c3b904$933dbb50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bethany K. Dumas >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:31 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Knitting > > >On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>>I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot >crochet, cannot >>>play bridge. >> >>Only three? If I admitted only three, people who know would >laugh greatly. > >>Only three? If I admitted only three, people who know would laugh >greatly. > >I THOUGHT that would bring you out of hiding, Alec! > >But are all your deficiencies ? No ones? >(Posting great?) > >Bethany > I don't look at them as great or minor. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:49:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2InGBp025508 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:49:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6530E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:48:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:48:18 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2ImFg22260 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:48:16 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB2ImDkF005565 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:13 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB2ImD9l005563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:12 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202184812.GA5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = = It astonishes me to find that linguica is regarded as a food item = in much of these United States. I really need to travel more. = This morning on the way to work I had a WLM because I was behind the truck belonging to the Portuguese store in Amsterdam. I didn't even know we had one! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:53:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IrlBp025603 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:53:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65341@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:52:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:52:49 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Iqng22839 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:52:49 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB2IqlkF005582 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:52:48 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB2Iqlj7005580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:52:47 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:52:47 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202185247.GB5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: = > Does this mean that you're using the bottom half to code by hand = > in, and not really using lots of features of the application? = = Top half; bottom half shows the html output. = Ok. I just started up Dreamweaver. How did you get all this in one window. I get a separate window for the source and I don't get it unless I open it by hand. = > This does give me a way of looking at how to start using it more = > effectively though. So thanks. = = I really do believe that Dreamweaver was designed by geeks who coded = by hand for a long time. It's NOTHING like Front Page. It's genuinely = useful. = = Part of the reason I feel that way, I think, is because every time I = wish Dreamweaver could do something, I discovered it did. = = Karen, = practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:58:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IwWBp025652 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:58:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65371@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:57:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:57:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2IvXg23647 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:57:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2IvVeO027896 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:57:31 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2IvUa2027876; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:57:30 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:52:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <011401c3b8fe$37f4cd20$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:00 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > >Ryan and Lorinda may fly to Phoenix for the Bowl Game there on the 2th. > > >Betty > > >Ah! And that is the day we are flying out of Phoenix. > >AS Good idea to get out of town fast! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:59:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IxABp025658 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:59:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00202AB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2IwAg23725 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2Iw72f021112 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:58:07 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2Iw6JC021096; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:58:07 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105304.00b9e580@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:53:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <76571385.20031202120603@WordWrite.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:06 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > > I do, too. It's my favorite of all her sig's. > >Thank you, Sweet Betty. > >Karen I'm working on my new reputation. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 12:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2IxoBp025666 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:59:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65379@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Iwqg23804 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2IwaeO029790 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:58:36 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2IwWa2029656; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:58:33 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105342.00ba39c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:53:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:13 PM 12/2/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot >play bridge. > >Bethany This says a lot about you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:01:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2J1BBp025712 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:01:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6538F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2J0Dg24174 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2Ixxrm011670 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <339475290.20031202130003@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202185247.GB5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBE617.90506@swbell.net> <3FCBE901.9010701@mayn!or.net> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> <20031202185247.GB5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, steph wrote: > Ok. I just started up Dreamweaver. How did you get all this in > one window. I get a separate window for the source and I don't > get it unless I open it by hand. What version do you have? I have Dreamweaver MX. On the View menu, the first three items are Code, Design, and Code and Design. Click the 3rd one. You may also want to go to Edit>Preferences and change some things. I have mine open to a blank file, for example. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:01:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2J1EBp025715 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:01:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65387@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:16 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2J0Fg24180 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB2J0EkF005609 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:00:14 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB2J0DNj005606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:00:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:00:13 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20031202190013.GC5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot = play bridge. = Me neither, but I don't consider them great deficiencies. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2J1YBp025718 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:01:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6537E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2J0Wg24218 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:00:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2J0N6X018807 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:00:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <712066532.20031202130027@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105304.00b9e580@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202095532.00b91d98@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105304.00b9e580@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > At 12:06 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >> > I do, too. It's my favorite of all her sig's. >> >>Thank you, Sweet Betty. >> >>Karen > I'm working on my new reputation. LOL Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2J3sBp025758 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:03:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65393@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:02:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:02:56 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2J2tg24719 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:02:56 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA00E6Z7D4DT@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:54:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:54:07 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <350ea5356fe9.356fe9350ea5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That depends on what you mean by "holidays". The semester opens > Jan 10, and > it's difficult indeed to leave work during the start of the new > semester - and we have had heavy snowfalls in the first 2 weeks > of the > New Year the last couple of years. I meant after the Christmas-New Years run of holidays. Between Jan 2 and Jan 10, say. Weather permitting... > When is Snowbash, though? I'd hate to interfere with Adam's party! Lately it's been in March. Although Snow Bash I was during the above time frame -- 1996 right after the Blizzard. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:06:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2J6mBp025812 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:06:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A653B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:05:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:05:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2J5ng25083 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:05:49 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB2J5mkF005629 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:48 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB2J5lro005627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:47 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:47 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202190547.GD5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> <20031202185247.GB5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> <339475290.20031202130003@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <339475290.20031202130003@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, steph wrote: = > Ok. I just started up Dreamweaver. How did you get all this in = > one window. I get a separate window for the source and I don't = > get it unless I open it by hand. = = What version do you have? I have Dreamweaver MX. On the View menu, the = first three items are Code, Design, and Code and Design. Click the 3rd = one. Hmmm. Dreamweaver UltraDev 1.0 I can view a lot of things, but not those three. = = You may also want to go to Edit>Preferences and change some things. I = have mine open to a blank file, for example. = Yes, this should yield some results, but what I have seems hell bent on floating palettes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:23:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2JNZBp026042 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:23:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6543D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:22:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:22:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2JMSg27686 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:22:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2JME6X008445 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:22:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:22:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1274015495.20031202132219@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202190547.GD5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> <20031202185247.GB5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> <339475290.20031202130003@WordWrite.com> <20031202190547.GD5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, steph wrote: > Hmmm. Dreamweaver UltraDev 1.0 I can view a lot of things, but > not those three. Well, shoot. > Yes, this should yield some results, but what I have seems hell > bent on floating palettes. You Must Upgrade. Sorry! There seem to be a lot of web resources for this version of Dreamweaver, but I've never used it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:44:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2JimBp026427 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:44:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A654EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:43:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:43:50 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Jhng31433 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:43:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB2Jfn5a007613 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:41:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:42:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 12:00 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > > >Ryan and Lorinda may fly to Phoenix for the Bowl Game there on the 2th. > > > > >Betty > > > > > >Ah! And that is the day we are flying out of Phoenix. > >AS And we are flying into Phoenix this Monday Dec 8. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:50:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2JoeBp026493 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:50:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00202C6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:49:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 37675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:49:42 -0500 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mursuky.edu [216.249.159.14] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2Jneg32561 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:49:40 -0500 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (7.0.008) id 3FC4CD4500062699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:48:19 -0600 Message-ID: <017f01c3b90c$f9ce5160$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:46:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Ryan and Lorinda may fly to Phoenix for the Bowl Game there on the 2th. > > > > >Betty > > > > > >Ah! And that is the day we are flying out of Phoenix. > >AS >And we are flying into Phoenix this >Monday Dec 8. > - D. M. Great! We are flying inton Phoenix Dec. 20. AS, who can't wait ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:59:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2JxiBp026588 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:59:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6557B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:58:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:58:45 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Jwjg02500 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:58:45 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HP900INPX5SMT@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:13:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:13:41 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <32b15032f5f9.32f5f932b150@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Chorizo is often packaged. I would have thought that every Mexican > grocery would have chorizo and a couple kinds of Mexican cheese. Yesterday at the little A&P (as opposed to the big A&P) there was tons of chorizo, tons of sopressata, but no linguica (I don't think, wasn't looking, but went pretty thoroughly through the area) and no andouille. I also want to make a cherry pie, but they don't have pitted sour cherries (canned or jarred). I might have to go to the German butcher shop. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 14:01:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2K18Bp026648 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:01:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00202CBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:09 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2K09g02828 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:09 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:01 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, there's one way to deal with books collecting dust in the library... (here's the original /. article) http://tinyurl.com/xevi "To help nourish lean budgets, public libraries are increasingly eyeing the e-commerce used-book market (http://tinyurl.com/xevz) as an alternative to the long-standing community tradition of the local book sale. Abebooks reports a tenfold surge in public library clients over the last three years. The payoff can be handsome. One library group boasts of getting $250 for a few boxes of 'miserable, horrible stuff' and another $110 from a World War II vet for a book about his Army regiment. A public library in Texas auctioned 300 items on eBay to help plug a budget hole. And a Seattle suburb moved its annual library sale of some 80,000 books to Amazon, citing expediency and extra cash as motivators." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 14:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2K1MBp026656 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:01:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65591@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 38701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2K0Ng02859 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:00:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2K0LW1019837 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:00:21 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2K0KWq019803; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:00:21 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202115433.00bb8e68@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:55:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <017f01c3b90c$f9ce5160$e895f9d8@msunet2k.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:46 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >Great! We are flying inton Phoenix Dec. 20. > >AS, who can't wait ... Happy for you. Wait! If you *can't* wait, does that mean you can wait?? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 14:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2K4IBp026711 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:04:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A655B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:03:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 39119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:03:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2K3Jg03929 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:03:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00202CD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:03:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312022003.hB2K3Jg03929@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:03:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:52:47 +0100, steph wrote: >Karen Kay: >= On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: >= > Does this mean that you're using the bottom half to code by hand >= > in, and not really using lots of features of the application? >= >= Top half; bottom half shows the html output. >= > >Ok. I just started up Dreamweaver. How did you get all this in >one window. I get a separate window for the source and I don't >get it unless I open it by hand. Which version of Dreamweaver are you using? In Version 6.0, I have the option of parking the toolbars at the top of the screen and letting them float, Mac style. I park them. The first three icons on the main toolbar are for "Show Code View", "Show Code & Design Views" and "Show Design View". Or you can reach them from the pulldown menu for Views. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 14:13:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2KDYBp026820 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:13:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65614@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:12:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:12:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2KCZg06861 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:12:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2KCQ6X026867 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:12:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:12:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <626648259.20031202141230@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <32b15032f5f9.32f5f932b150@optonline.net> References: <32b15032f5f9.32f5f932b150@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > I also want to make a cherry pie, but they don't have pitted sour > cherries (canned or jarred). I might have to go to the German > butcher shop. Apple cranberry mo' bettah. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 14:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2KNDBp027012 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00202D85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:22:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:22:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2KMEg10061 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:22:14 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB2KMDkF005767 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:13 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB2KMCn1005765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:12 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031202202212.GA5752@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312022003.hB2K3Jg03929@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312022003.hB2K3Jg03929@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: = = Which version of Dreamweaver are you using? = A pathetically old one. I don't understand how, as our IT department is only three years old. Certainly since it's licensed and we're paying for it, I ought to be able to coax them into an upgrade. I have it, but I can't really justify using it, as the only web page development I do doesn't get used anywhere. So maybe that's the same with everyone else. I think all the real corporate content is outsourced somewhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 14:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2KOUBp027042 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:24:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A656B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 41621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:23:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2KNVg10226 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00202D8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312022023.hB2KNVg10226@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:22:19 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, steph wrote: >> Hmmm. Dreamweaver UltraDev 1.0 I can view a lot of things, but >> not those three. > >Well, shoot. > >> Yes, this should yield some results, but what I have seems hell >> bent on floating palettes. > >You Must Upgrade. Sorry! Aha! I thought it might be overkill to mention earlier, that the current version of Dreamweaver (since abt 4.0 or 5.0) incorporates HomeSite, which was the base web editor for Cold Fusion (Macromedia bought CF). Earlier versions might not be so functional because these are of HS. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 15:22:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2LMsBp027869 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:22:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65945@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:21:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 46923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:21:48 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2LLNg22201 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:21:23 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPA005HTDZFAZ@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:17:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:17:11 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3222ab31dbc8.31dbc83222ab@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Kay > On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > I also want to make a cherry pie, but they don't have pitted sour > > cherries (canned or jarred). I might have to go to the German > > butcher shop. > > Apple cranberry mo' bettah. I love apple pie (don't need no cranberries), but I haven't tasted my granny's cherry pie in so long...someone's gotta do it. My dad's jonesin'. I thought I could make one for Christmas dessert. I see a couple places to buy them on the web if all else fails. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 15:32:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2LWvBp028025 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:32:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65970@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 47698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:31:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2LVvg24498 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:31:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2LVi6X016027 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:31:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:31:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1495083332.20031202153149@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3222ab31dbc8.31dbc83222ab@optonline.net> References: <3222ab31dbc8.31dbc83222ab@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > I love apple pie (don't need no cranberries), but I haven't tasted > my granny's cherry pie in so long...someone's gotta do it. My dad's > jonesin'. I thought I could make one for Christmas dessert. I see a > couple places to buy them on the web if all else fails. Trader Joe's always has them. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 15:38:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2LclBp028104 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A659B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:37:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:37:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Lbeg25594 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:37:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77883@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:37:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:22 PM > clo: > = > = Which version of Dreamweaver are you using? > = > > A pathetically old one. I don't understand how, as our IT > department is only three years old. Certainly since it's > licensed and we're paying for it, I ought to be able to coax them > into an upgrade. I have it, but I can't really justify using it, > as the only web page development I do doesn't get used anywhere. > So maybe that's the same with everyone else. I think all the > real corporate content is outsourced somewhere. UltraEdit. $30. It's about all I've ever used for web work (including before it received several awards). When I used to do lots of online technical support in Charles Carroll's email-based lists, people would ask which software to use. UltraEdit bare none. TextEdit is a close second. UltraEdit is nice now that UltraCompare is out and when you run File|Compare in UltraEdit with UltraCompare installed, it'll switch to UltraCompare automagically [sic]. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 15:46:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2LknBp028279 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:46:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A659EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:45:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:45:50 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Ljng26911 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:45:49 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2LjnEF028819 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:45:49 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2LjnJx007544 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:45:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:45:47 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <90553234.1070383547@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312020359.hB23x2114003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312020359.hB23x2114003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Monday, December 01, 2003 10:59 PM -0500 Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > make bobbin and needle lace Wow, I've seen some of this done. Extremely lovely and extremely intensive. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 15:48:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2Lm7Bp028287 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:48:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A659F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:07 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Ll6g27052 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:06 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2Ll6EF028924 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:06 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2Ll6Jx007903 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:47:04 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting Message-ID: <90630312.1070383624@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <1655620701.20031201223308@WordWrite.com> References: <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1655620701.20031201223308@WordWrite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I still don't have any idea, but I was going to say that at least one > of the men in my meeting knits. He always is knitting very manly > looking things. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism A friend of ours was substitute teaching a class with a couple of over active boys. She decided to teach them to knit with positive results. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 15:48:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2LmbBp028292 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:48:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A659EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:38 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Llcg27108 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:38 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2LlbEF028981 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:37 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2LlbJx008054 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:47:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:47:36 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Heather Message-ID: <90662000.1070383656@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <336c7f337f72.337f72336c7f@optonline.net> References: <336c7f337f72.337f72336c7f@optonline.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was the email I used that bounced. Terry --On Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:38 AM -0500 Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:47:18 -0500 > From: "Heather \"Wicked Cute\" Hewitt" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2M1HBp028491 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:01:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:00:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 49174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:59:57 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2Lxvg28471 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:59:57 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:59:48 PST Message-ID: <20031202215948.11274.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:59:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000101c3b901$fc9f9ad0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > > Only three? If I admitted only three, people who > know would laugh greatly. Enumerate, please. _________________ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:04:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2M47Bp028523 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:04:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00203149@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:03:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 50778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:02:10 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2M2Ag29386 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:02:10 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:02:01 PST Message-ID: <20031202220201.33802.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3b904$933dbb50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > >>Only three? If I admitted only three, people who > know would laugh > >greatly. > > > >I THOUGHT that would bring you out of hiding, Alec! > > > >But are all your deficiencies ? No > ones? > >(Posting great?) > > > >Bethany > > > > I don't look at them as great or minor. Enumerate and classify, please. > > > alec > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the > MessageLabs Email > Security System. For more information on a proactive > email security > service working around the clock, around the globe, > visit > http://www.messagelabs.com > ________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:09:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2M9HBp028617 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:09:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65B41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 51563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:08:18 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2M8Ig30643 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:08:18 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:08:12 PST Message-ID: <20031202220812.21849.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:08:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105304.00b9e580@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > I'm working on my new reputation. Sketch in the details - are you leaning toward sweetness and light, or something more sinister than BB? Will you consider requests? This turn of events has huge potential. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:26:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2MQSBp028852 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:26:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65BA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:25:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:25:28 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2MPSg01129 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:25:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:25:22 PST Message-ID: <20031202222522.20453.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:25:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3222ab31dbc8.31dbc83222ab@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I love apple pie (don't need no cranberries), but I > haven't tasted my granny's cherry pie in so > long...someone's gotta do it. My dad's jonesin'. I > thought I could make one for Christmas dessert. I > see a couple places to buy them on the web if all > else fails. Use canned cherry pie filling and change seasonings and consistency to your taste. With really good crust, no one will know the difference. I've tried it, it works! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:28:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2MSaBp028879 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:28:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00203247@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:27:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 52851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:27:37 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2MRbg01642 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:27:37 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:27:31 PST Message-ID: <20031202222731.14693.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:27:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <90630312.1070383624@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Terry Wild wrote: > A friend of ours was substitute teaching a class > with a couple of over > active boys. She decided to teach them to knit with > positive results. Reminds me of the old Cary Grant movie, Mr. Lucky. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:39:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2MdnBp029062 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:39:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65BFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:38:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:38:49 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Mcng03023 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:38:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB2MccEH003333 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:38:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3b925$20355340$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3222ab31dbc8.31dbc83222ab@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:39:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I love apple pie (don't need no cranberries), but I haven't tasted my granny's cherry pie in so long...someone's gotta do it. My dad's jonesin'. I thought I could make one for Christmas dessert. I see a couple places to buy them on the web if all else fails. > > Marie You can order cherry pie filling from a number of places in Door County, Wis. Absolutely the best. http://tinyurl.com/xfsq - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2MeIBp029065 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:40:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65BEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:39:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 53606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:39:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2MdFg03085 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:39:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB2Md26X026476 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:39:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:39:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <647245939.20031202163907@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Vit D MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Didn't someone say they had a Vit D shortage? Karen December 1, 2003 NUTRITION NEWS FOCUS "Nutrition news is important. We help you understand it!" Today's Topic: Vitamin D Deficiency Vitamin D deficiency is thought to have disappeared from most developed countries. However, rickets, the failure of bones to mineralize, is reappearing to the dismay of physicians and many others. There are three main issues that have led to this condition: promotion of long-term breast feeding without vitamin D supplements, decreased exposure to the sun, and high prevalence of rickets in groups immigrating from less developed countries. 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Copyright 2003 Nutrition News Focus Inc. ******************************************************************** * NUTRITION NEWS FOCUS * We take the confusion out of the nutrition news * For a free subscription to our daily email newsletter: * Send a blank email to subscribe@NutritionNewsFocus.com * Or visit our website at http://www.NutritionNewsFocus.com ******************************************************************** From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2Mn1Bp029195 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:49:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65C26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:01 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Mm1g04102 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:01 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001703; 2 Dec 03 17:58:29 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 2 Dec 03 17:58:16 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001702; 2 Dec 03 17:58:10 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:44:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: A few Brazilian stereotypes Message-ID: <3FCCCF65.10563.2484DDD5@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We were, of course, visiting a central business area, and were in a very privileged position. But still, I was surprised. Macho "Latin" culture. Seemed much more European - polite and restrained. Obviously we untrained Canadians probably missed plenty of subtle signals, but it wasn't unlike say France. Everyone smokes everywhere. Every restaurant we encountered was completely non-smoking, as were all offices. Even a couple of bars were not very smoky. *Nothing* like France! Third world poverty "in your face". Far fewer panhandlers on the downtown streets than in Toronto or New York. A few obviously very poor people collecting junk (old construction material etc.) in little carts, but very unobtrusively. A very few people actually sleeping on the streets. All this is, of course, not to deny the existence of millions of people living in the favelas, but they are relatively isolated or at least invisible from the business and tourist areas. Violence on the streets - "you can't leave your hotel at night". Hard to fully evaluate. Certainly every even slightly upscale restaurant or store has guards outside (unarmed), with more of them after dark. But it's not really clear what they are guarding against. The locals' usual answer is "the public police won't come if you call, so that's why there are all these private police". But when pressed, no one could mention ever seeing an actual incident where these private police had done anything to speak of. Someone mentioned having had a grab & run of a laptop computer in broad daylight outside the bank office, but I know people in New York that happened to, at gunpoint, and certainly it's not unknown in Toronto. Bank branches *do* look threatening - several well armed guards outside each one, and I don't know what the procedure is to get inside and do your business. But there are (unguarded) ATMs on street corners, and people use them without evident fear. We went to a large park the first Sunday, and *it* was full of guards (and some "public" police). But other than that presence, it was just like Central Park or the Toronto Islands - crowded with families, food vendors, bike rentals, assorted cultural stuff, etc. No infrastructure - nothing works, etc. An element of truth - best not to drink the water, horrible traffic, the supposed lack of public police, etc. But there's plenty of hi-tech: many buffet restaurants hand you a card on entry, you then have your plate weighed and swipe the card each time you fill it, and then when you leave the detailed bill is printed up as you hand the card in. Public internet kiosks all over, a modern clean (but noisy) subway that people certainly use well into the evening, and all kinds of shopping easy to find. The food is either weird and exotic or bland and over meaty. There is a huge and uniformly excellent variety in all styles. I ate nothing I regretted in the whole week. How people stay so thin is hard to imagine. There is certainly a long-lunch culture (but no siestas), and the evening meal is rarely before 7:30 or 8:00. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 16:54:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2Ms1Bp029244 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:54:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65C54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:53:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 54305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:53:02 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Mr2g04540 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:53:02 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120222525001200d8sffe>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:52:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031202141829.0325c850@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:55:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <20031202190547.GD5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <339475290.20031202130003@WordWrite.com> <3FCBF4E1.5020101@swbell.net> <3FCBF6EC.3090001@maynor.net> <20031202034052.GD3531@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1353994206.20031201222732@WordWrite.com> <20031202044032.GA4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <627951375.20031201225720@WordWrite.com> <20031202050322.GC4397@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1696440556.20031202071601@WordWrite.com> <20031202185247.GB5554@yoccoz.multinix.com> <339475290.20031202130003@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph writes, >Hmmm. Dreamweaver UltraDev 1.0 I can view a lot of things, but >not those three. MX is nice. I've used it for multi-page sites or to play around with CSS or table stuff. You can download a 30-day trial version from Macromedia to see what you're missing. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NGABp029609 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:16:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65CD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:15:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:15:10 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2N5Ag06248 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:05:10 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hB2N58Tc022441 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:05:08 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hB2N58Lc022440 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:05:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:05:08 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Why Retirement Isn't Fun Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The upcoming ARF banquet is driving me bonkers. Here was a typical communication of today: ********* Natalie - I am counting 122 as the list this year to this date. Ask them how much leeway we have to have extra people. I am thinking if they allow us to have a few extra at the last minute as we have in the past, 115 would probably be a good number. Sometimes they have allowed as many as 10% as an add on but I think they mentioned 5% last year as a potential add on. We may have one or two more to want to come and history tells me we will have six or so who cannot come at the last minute. If the weather is bad, it will be about twice that much. That is why if we can make a firm number guarantee a day or two before, we can guess better. You should talk to them and do whatever you feel right about. ********** That was from the treasurer. And then the pres sent me e-mail saying he's going to be out of pocket the rest of the week and asking me to find a red rug and a fancy chair for Santa Claus to sit on. And it goes on and on, right here at the time I've got students coming in with the usual end-of-semester problems and pleas, etc. etc. I'm sick of this f'ing banquet! Retired life ain't easy. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NZ5Bp029854 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65D18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:34:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2NY5g09620 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:34:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2NY42f002974 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:34:04 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB2NY2JC002945; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:34:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202152850.03113eb8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:29:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <90630312.1070383624@TWild.uri.edu> References: <1655620701.20031201223308@WordWrite.com> <200312020403.hB243B115421@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1655620701.20031201223308@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:47 PM 12/2/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>I still don't have any idea, but I was going to say that at least one >>of the men in my meeting knits. He always is knitting very manly >>looking things. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > > >A friend of ours was substitute teaching a class with a couple of over >active boys. She decided to teach them to knit with positive results. > >Terry Larry's aunt teaches quilting to junior high boys. They do great. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:40:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NdxBp029912 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:39:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65D43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:38:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:38:59 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Ncxg10404 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:38:59 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2NcrGR005200 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:38:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCD223D.9000204@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:37:33 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031201093710.00b44c80@pop.gwi.net> <3FCBC67B.8040904@maynor.net> <128891325.20031201174041@WordWrite.com> <503787496.20031201175153@WordWrite.com> <3FCBD531.3060509@swbell.net> <852331502.20031201180913@WordWrite.com> <3FCBDAE5.70001@swbell.net> <3FCCA1DC.3010404@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> >> Until that fateful day, I hold my breath and pine >> fiercely for just one bite of its firm, succulent and spicey >> flesh with just a little greasey juice running down my chin. >> And some scrambled eggs. With a little salt. And maybe >> some toasted and buttered sweet bread. That would be pretty >> good. >> >> >> > I'm going to make a mess of the spelling here but what do you think of > locanico? I used to be able to find it locally but have not for quite a > long time. I might be more successful if I would travel to Lowell to > shop. Nah, not doing that. I love it. Another thing I have a hard time finding in St. Louis. I found it on the menu of the Grecian Gourmet, a little mall restaurant that is basically a pita sandwich shop. The two teens working there didn't know what it was until the dad told them where to get it and how to cook it up. I was very fussy -- wanted it with feta and lemon -- the boys were mystified, but the dad apologized to me by explaining they were only half Greek :). He ended up making my sandwich properly. You don't have to go all the way to Lowell, btw -- still plenty of Greeks in Roslindale near the Arboretum. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:43:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NhVBp029965 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:43:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65D4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:42:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:42:31 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2NgUg10798 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:42:31 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2NgTGR010027 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:42:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCD2315.8000708@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:41:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312020359.hB23x2114003@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <90553234.1070383547@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > --On Monday, December 01, 2003 10:59 PM -0500 Carolyn Ostrander > wrote: > >> make bobbin and needle lace > > > Wow, I've seen some of this done. Extremely lovely and extremely > intensive. Karolin's grandmother has sent me beautiful pieces of her tatted lace the past few Christmases. I have a gorgeous tatted lace nativity scene she made for me -- in a frame hand-made by Karolin's grandfather. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:47:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NlPBp030049 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:47:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65D61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 56734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:46:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2NaPg09970 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2NZH61005796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:35:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:36:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >The upcoming ARF banquet is driving me bonkers. Here was a typical >communication of today: etc. Geez, Natalie, what did you do to make everybody so mad at you that they require you to do this??? Bethsny From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NpcBp030105 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:51:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65DAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:50:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 57049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:50:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2NeVg10560 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:40:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB2NdP61006814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:39:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:40:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Comcast ruined a great day - last day of classes for the semester. On Nov. 7, I received a DSL bill. I wrote a check, mailed it. Yesterday, I received a DSL bill - not reflecting a Nov. payment. I called, was told that if I would mail a check for the two months, I would be okay. I mailed such a check. (Who knows where the Nov. 7 check is?) When I got home, I found another bill from Comcast saying that if the bills weren't paid by 3 p.m. on Thursday, service would be disconnected blah blah blah. I called again - had to give a credit card payment. I have now paid the Nov. bill three times and the Dec. bill twice. I shall visit a Comcast office later this seek. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:55:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2Nt2Bp030136 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:55:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00203401@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:54:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:54:02 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Ns1g12855 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:54:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202235356.EOSN12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2616.4050103@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:53:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >>It doesn't fall into any category for me. I've never heard of it. >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I long ago had to give up my cosmopolitan cred, but this is one of those > little things that reminds me how little I know about that part of America > which is east of the Rockies. > > For me, linguica is one of the standard pizza items. Not that every pizza > place has linguica on its menu, but enough pizza places do that anyone who > even occasionally goes out for pizza would have seen it often enough to at > least ask what it is. You are leaping to geographic conclusions. It may well exist as a standard ingredient at pizza places here. I am not representative of the citizens. I don't think I've ever been out for pizza here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 17:56:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB2NumBp030159 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:56:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:55:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:55:48 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Ntmg12987 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:55:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202235543.EPYX12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:55:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2680.1040001@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <3FC56C5E.13C0A234@maynor.net> <3FC56D9F.6030700@swbell.net> <3FC5FF0A.AC7BA5F@maynor.net> <3FC62C08.4010300@swbell.net> <3FC63571.49CBFD0C@maynor.net> <20031127210142.GC14196@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FC675CB.36DEA3AD@maynor.net> <1161852059.20031127165156@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Correction: I have been out for pizza in Starkville before. I just realized that I said never. But I don't think I have been out for pizza here in the past thirty years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:00:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB300fBp030213 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:00:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65DC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:59:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:59:41 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2Nxfg13177 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:59:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031202235936.ESHI12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2769.6050301@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:59:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > But I do know that my local NPR > station has raised fund-raising to an art form. I like the way PRM does it. It's limited to twice a year, once in the spring and once in the fall, and it consists of talking about the money need off and on, not constantly, for a period of a few days at each of those times. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:12:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30C7Bp030346 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65DDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:11:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:11:07 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30B6g14041 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:11:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.175.231b44bb (4214) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:10:58 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <175.231b44bb.2cfe8412@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:10:58 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Why paying Bills Isn't Fun To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/2/2003 5:50:54 PM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << I shall visit a Comcast office later this seek. >> Visit your bank first to see if they can find your check. If not, put a stop payment on it immediately. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:22:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30M2Bp030547 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:22:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65DDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:21:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:21:02 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30L1g14978 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:21:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203002056.DPYU1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:20:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>> Thickness. The turkey, stuffing, and cranberry make for a >>>heavy sandwich -- you need a bread that can hold it. >> >>That is how I had interpreted what you wrote. So now I need to >>find out >> what Marie meant by . > > Betty said she likes breads, which I interpret as either dense or crusty. But most of my turkey sandwich eating has always been on floppier loaf breads (that's how I was raised), and with good results. And toast is a fine thing too. I'm sure more breads are fine too, but not necessary. Just don't pile it too high. It was Rita. I don't know that Betty has discussed this matter. I forgot to notice in the cafeteria today whether there was turkey and dressing. I think there wasn't, but I didn't really pause at that area. I went on to another area that had a Chinese chicken-rice dish that was good. I was feeling especially distracted at the moment, having just been in the cafeteria office talking about ARF-banquet stuff with the Dining Services scheduler, and worrying about where to find a proper chair for Santa Claus. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30ONBp030592 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65DE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:23:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:23:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30DMg14265 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:13:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB30CG61015893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:12:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <175.231b44bb.2cfe8412@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <175.231b44bb.2cfe8412@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >Visit your bank first to see if they can find your check. >If not, put a stop payment on it immediately. I considered doing that. But I do not want to pay the fee - and the bank will be 100% responsible if they cash it for the wrong party, so I am going to let it go. (It's a very small check.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:24:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30OVBp030596 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:24:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00203480@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:23:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:23:31 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30NUg15199 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:23:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203002325.DRAV1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2CFF.8040600@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:23:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst References: <001e01c3b8e7$b2b35840$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <001e01c3b8e7$b2b35840$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > This kind of chat did not bother me at all. That is what makes words-l work. > When you and Bethany were planning a trip and boring us with the details, > that was the part that pissed me off. Ah, so some people's trip-planning bores you and pisses you off, while other people's trip-planning doesn't bother you. I understand now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:26:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30Q4Bp030601 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:26:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65DE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:25:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:25:04 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30P3g15346 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:25:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203002458.DRRZ1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:24:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2D5C.8090409@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:25:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I do like denser bread usually but sometimes, like in potato chip > sandwiches, white bread rules! Is this the kind of geographical thing Boo was alluding to? Are potato-chip sandwiches a California thing? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:28:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30SIBp030616 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:28:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65DE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:18 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30RIg15488 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:18 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1f0.14af3078 (3874) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1f0.14af3078.2cfe87db@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Why paying Bills Isn't Fun To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/2/2003 6:23:52 PM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << I considered doing that. But I do not want to pay the fee - and the bank will be 100% responsible if they cash it for the wrong party, so I am going to let it go. (It's a very small check.) >> If all the payments show up, then you'll be several months ahead on your Comcast service; or will you have them refund it? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:29:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30T3Bp030621 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:29:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65DFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:28:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 58982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:28:02 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30Rwg15500 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203002752.DSWA1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2E0A.1000300@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:27:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <3369a0332af6.332af63369a0@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <3369a0332af6.332af63369a0@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? It's been a while. I'm for it. I'm always for going to NYC. I was thinking not long ago how I might go up next summer for the Mississippi in the Park event, which is not a tourist event, of course -- it was started many years ago by Mississippians who live in NYC and is for them. But I've always thought it would be fun to go. I think it's always sometime in mid-to-late June. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30Z5Bp030694 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65DF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:34:05 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30Y5g16023 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:34:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203003359.DVLJ1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:33:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD2F79.2030109@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:34:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031202173150.92107.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031202173150.92107.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I may suggest to the "suits" at WBHM/NPR that they And suddenly I'm reminded of something I noticed when leaving campus early this afternoon and meant to report to you (you, Lynne -- not y'all in general -- will Alec attack me?). There was a large vehicle with a satellite on top parked near the stadium. Actually, there were several, but the one I meant to mention to you said something like "Alabama Super Stars -- ABC -- 30/40." Is that a tv channel you watch? At first I couldn't figure out why there were such vehicles parked around the stadium, but then I remembered that our new fb coach was to have a press conference around that time from the M-Club building, which is beside the stadium -- as in sort of on top of part of it, I guess. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:40:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30eCBp030774 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:40:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65E1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:39:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30dBg16661 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:39:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203003906.DXTK1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:39:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD309E.8010800@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:38:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot > play bridge. How did you manage to make it to adulthood? But then you are using present tense. I have no memory of how to knit or crochet, so I could say that I cannot do them. I do remember a wee bit more about playing bridge, though it is also something I have not done in years -- except that I used to play bridge on my computer at times -- I wonder what happened to that bridge game -- hadn't thought about it in a long time. All three of those, however, were assumed to be universal in my growing-up years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:43:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30hpBp030824 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:43:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65E4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:42:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:42:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30Wpg15926 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:32:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB30Vh61021096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:31:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:32:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <1f0.14af3078.2cfe87db@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1f0.14af3078.2cfe87db@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >If all the payments show up, then you'll be several months ahead >on your Comcast service; or will you have them refund it? I was so irritated on the phone tonight that I demanded interest on the payments - fortunately, I also laughed, knowing how likely THAT was! I will let it go - the monthly payments are small, so it's not that much money. (It would have been earlier in my life, of course.) Now if the crews will just finish the construction work at Western Plaza, I will be fairly happy. I cannot go to Fresh Market or Kroger's on my way home from the office because of the one-lane situation at Western Plaza. It would take forever. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:44:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30ieBp030847 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:44:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65E54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:43:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:43:39 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30hdg17131 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:43:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203004334.DZUY1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:43:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD31B7.5070906@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:43:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <350ea5356fe9.356fe9350ea5@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <350ea5356fe9.356fe9350ea5@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I meant after the Christmas-New Years run of holidays. Between Jan 2 and Jan 10, say. Weather permitting... Hmm. Let us click this planning into high gear. I could do it between Jan. 2 and 10, but I would need to start planning -- to cash in ff miles and to get Spencer a reservation at Furrbabies. I guess it would be kind of weird to fly home from NYC on Dec. 29 (which is what I will be doing) and turn around and fly back there a few days later. But that's life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:50:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30o0Bp030960 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:50:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002034B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:59 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30mxg17666 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:59 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB30mwEF002275 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:58 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB30mwJx007750 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:48:57 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:20 PM -0600 Natalie Maynor wrote: > worrying about where to find a proper > chair for Santa Claus. > Check out the theatre group. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30onBp030967 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:50:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65E67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:49 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30nng17766 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203004943.ECEH1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:49:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > And we are flying into Phoenix this > Monday Dec 8. Why are you flying into Phoenix? Dec. 8 is a good date. I can't remember why now exactly, but it rings bells in my head as being good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 18:56:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB30uNBp031052 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:56:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002034CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:55:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:55:23 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30tMg18598 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:55:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203005516.EEJU1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:55:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD3475.4010704@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:55:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This isn't about libraries, but I suddenly remembered something I was going to mention. I zipped by a close grocery store on my way home today to buy milk and noticed a Patricia Cornwall book named ... lemme go look ... named _Portrait of a Killer_ with Jack the Ripper mentioned in a subtitle. I bought it since that did not sound familiar -- did not sound like something I'd read before. Have I? It's not the one some of y'all have been talking about lately, is it? I think not since it was published in 2002. I'm guessing that y'all have been talking about one still in hardback only. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:00:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB310EBp031115 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:00:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65E9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:59:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 59996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:59:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB30nEg17732 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB30m561025623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCD309E.8010800@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <193631009.20031128230606@WordWrite.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031201124344.02757d28@localhost> <1511553939.20031201074608@WordWrite.com> <17048828.1070310043@TWild.uri.edu> <413479042.20031201210422@WordWrite.com> <3FCC0530.6070208@maynor.net> <24909484.1070317903@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD309E.8010800@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >How did you manage to make it to adulthood? Deficiently. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:04:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB314BBp031142 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:04:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65E9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:03:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:03:10 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB313Ag19591 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:03:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203010255.EHMD1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:02:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD3640.5050306@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:02:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A few Brazilian stereotypes References: <3FCCCF65.10563.2484DDD5@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FCCCF65.10563.2484DDD5@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, Tony! I wonder what became of the Brazilian pen-pal I had in junior high. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:06:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB316aBp031180 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:06:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65E8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:36 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB315ag19950 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203010529.EIOX1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:05:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD36DA.9000703@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:05:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > etc. > > Geez, Natalie, what did you do to make everybody so mad at you that they > require you to do this??? It's part of . I agreed to be elected VP, so I have to endure this stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:22:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31MkBp031353 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:22:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65EDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:21:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 60805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:21:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31Big20435 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:11:45 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB31Ab61031234 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:10:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:11:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCD36DA.9000703@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD36DA.9000703@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It's part of . I agreed to be elected VP, so I have to >endure this stuff. Thanks for warning me. I have already been asked to serve on the board of the Faculty Women's Club - by someone (retired) who assumed that I had retired before moving to HH - when I told her I was not retired, she understood why I said "no." I suppose I need to start practicing not being nice. : ) No. Make that : ( Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:29:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31T5Bp031471 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:29:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00203530@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:28:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:28:00 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31S0g22491 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:28:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203012755.NSOH1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:27:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:27:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I wrote a check, mailed it. > called, was told that if I would mail a check for the two months, I would > be okay. I mailed such a check. (Who knows where the Nov. 7 check is?) Is there a particular reason you choose to write checks for bills? I realize that some people do prefer that method, but it seems so very to me in these days of bank-draft or credit-card-draft. I would hate to have to go back to the days of writing checks every month to pay bills. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:31:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31VjBp031556 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:31:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65EF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31Uig22791 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203013039.NTYM1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:30:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD3CC0.8000205@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:30:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <1f0.14af3078.2cfe87db@aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I was so irritated on the phone tonight that I demanded interest on the > payments - fortunately, I also laughed, knowing how likely THAT was! I I don't know. I am suddenly reminded of an engineer friend of mine who had to wait for hours in a doctor's office and sent the doctor a bill later for that time. The doctor paid. (I think it was probably a sort of joke on both their parts, but it in fact happened.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:34:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31YwBp031581 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:34:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65EE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:33:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:33:57 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31Xvg23050 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:33:57 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031203013351014007mh0me> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:33:51 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:33:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <2eb3162eb444.2eb4442eb316@optonline.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I was shocked not to find andouille (for my turkey gumbo) at the > A&P yesterday. Good thing Bruce still goes into the city. I found good ol' Gaspar's linguica and chourico at Super Stop and Shop tonight. I bought some linguica. Not quite sure what I'm going to do with it. It's a strong contender to go into my ersatz Mediterranean chicken dish of chunked up boneless chicken breast, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sun-dried tomatoes, and capers. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:35:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31ZnBp031606 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:35:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65EE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:34:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:34:48 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31Ymg23127 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:34:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203013443.NVUM1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:34:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:34:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> worrying about where to find a proper >> chair for Santa Claus. > Check out the theatre group. This is funny. The very first thought I had when learning of my need to find a chair for SC was of the chair I gave to the Starkville Community Theatre not all that long ago. I could of course borrow that chair from them, not just because I gave it to them but because groups in our nice little town are good to each other (and overlap greatly). But I would not be able to haul it. When I gave it to them, somebody came to my house and hauled it away in a van. No way would it have fit into my Toyota Echo. So there would be a hauling hassle. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:37:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31bFBp031626 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:37:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65EFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 61766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:36:14 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31aEg23230 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:36:14 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031203013608014007mh0ne> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:36:08 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:36:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200312021820.hB2IKUg18253@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When is Snowbash, though? I'd hate to interfere with Adam's party! SnowBash is usually in March. The first year it was MLKjr weekend but that is too soon after the holidays nowadays for this curmudgeon. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31jdBp031771 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:45:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65F1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:38 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31icg24228 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:38 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB31ibEF003740 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:37 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB31ibJx016536 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:44:35 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Old Fart wine Message-ID: <104881390.1070397875@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCBE9A4.5020803@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC9403B.4070807@maynor.net> <16799484.1070309793@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBE9A4.5020803@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The name I'm thinking of wasn't just Old Fart's Wife. It was something > like Old Tart(??). > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I found it, seems Old Tart is a white wine, same vineyard. May have to see if I can get that one ordered as well. Did you ever drink any? Interestingly, there is an Old Git which was changed to Old Fart when it crossed the pond to our side. I found a neat site www.winelabels.org which shows some great labels. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:45:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31jrBp031776 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:45:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65F00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:52 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31iqg24234 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203014447.OAVZ1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD400D.9040701@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:44:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD36DA.9000703@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Thanks for warning me. I have already been asked to serve on the board of > the Faculty Women's Club - by someone (retired) who assumed that I had > retired before moving to HH - when I told her I was not retired, she > understood why I said "no." The Faculty Women's Club is a group of retired people? That sounds like an odd name for such a group. Or do you mean that only retired people are on its board? That also sounds weird to me. But then I know nothing of faculty women's groups. There is something like that here, but I have never been involved. As I think I've said before, I'm not much into sex-separated groups. The only exception is the Dem Women -- because they really do great things. > I suppose I need to start practicing not being nice. > > : ) > > No. Make that > > : ( I've gotten very good at not being nice re professional stuff outside of MSU -- saying no when asked to be on programs, panels, etc. I still do some evaluating of grant proposals for NEH and NSF, but I'm rapidly moving out of those, writing notes at the end to tell them that I'm retired. I really have gotten rid of lots and lots of professional stuff. But I am taking on more and more non-professional stuff, most of which I am glad to take on. It's just this ARF VP thing that's becoming a major thorn. It will pass, however. Next year I'll be Pres, the following year chair of the Nominating Committee, and then (I think) *FREE*. Since I've paid life-time dues, I won't even have to remember to pay dues. I can simply . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:45:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31jrBq031776 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:45:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f29.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31iqg24235 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:44:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:44:43 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.7 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:44:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.7] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: DVD Players Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:44:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 01:44:43.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[06274160:01C3B93F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >I'm more and more impressed by Walmart, btw. I think I mentioned before >that ours now has wasabi peas and miso soup. I noticed today that they >have those Jewish candles that love,judith and I looked for here when >she was visiting and needed to find one to honor her father's memory. >They even have Pad Thai makings in a package. As the giuy said, bobos are everywhere. _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:48:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31mYBp031866 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:47:33 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f58.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31lXg24571 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:47:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:47:28 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.7 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:47:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.7] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:47:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 01:47:28.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[6851DEE0:01C3B93F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? It's been >a while. I'll be in NYC from Dec 22 or 23 until the end of the month. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31n4Bp031892 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:03 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31m3g24623 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203014754.OCLT1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:47:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD40CC.30105@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:47:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Old Fart wine References: <4.2.2.20031129163238.00a48730@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FC9403B.4070807@maynor.net> <16799484.1070309793@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCBE9A4.5020803@maynor.net> <104881390.1070397875@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <104881390.1070397875@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> The name I'm thinking of wasn't just Old Fart's Wife. It was something >> like Old Tart(??). >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > I found it, seems Old Tart is a white wine, same vineyard. > May have to see if I can get that one ordered as well. Did you ever drink > any? No, I didn't. My only knowledge of it (and I wasn't really sure that was the name) was from a conversation with a local liquor-store owner when I was buying some Old Fart and we were talking about Fat Bastard, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:49:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31nPBp031899 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:49:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65F26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:24 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31mOg24645 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:24 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB31mOEF003848 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:24 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB31mNJx017111 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:48:22 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So there would be a hauling hassle. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'm sure some of those strapping retirees must own a truck and would be willing to help you out in the spirit of the season. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:50:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31opBp031916 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:50:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002035A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:49:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:49:51 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31nog24787 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:49:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203014945.ODKM1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD413B.1080801@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:49:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Natalie: > >> I'm more and more impressed by Walmart, btw. I think I mentioned before >> that ours now has wasabi peas and miso soup. I noticed today that they >> have those Jewish candles that love,judith and I looked for here when >> she was visiting and needed to find one to honor her father's memory. >> They even have Pad Thai makings in a package. > > As the giuy said, bobos are everywhere. What's a bobo? Somebody who buys Jewish candles or wasabi peas or miso soup or pad thai? One of the above? All of the above? Something else? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 19:54:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB31svBp031946 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:54:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002035B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:53:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:53:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f31.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.31]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB31rtg25054 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:53:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:53:50 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.7 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:53:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.7] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: India Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:53:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 01:53:50.0386 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C317120:01C3B940] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cwv: >I'm somewhat surprised that you experience the same thing. I would have >presumed some sort of aesthetic/sensory/etc. memory, but perhaps that >doesn't happen---or perhaps you've been away too long. Traffic has quadrupled near where my parents live and it's very different from what I remember. It always takes me about two weeks to get used to everything, get into the swing of things there, the rhythms of family etc. and just when I'm feeling comfortable it's time to return. _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids’ toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:09:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB329TBp032142 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:09:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:08:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 62944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:08:28 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB328Rg26511 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:08:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203020822.HWDO1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:08:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD4598.60909@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:08:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I'll be in NYC from Dec 22 or 23 until the end of the month. Neat! What are you doing between the night of the 25th and the morning of the 29th? Or to speak more practically, what are you doing between the 26th and 28th? I will arrive there late on the 25th and will depart early on the 29th. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:13:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32DvBp032233 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:13:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002035E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:56 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32Ctg26891 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203021250.HXQA1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:12:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > I'm sure some of those strapping retirees must own a truck and would be > willing to help you out in the spirit of the season. That is no doubt true. My biggest problem is time -- finding time to deal with this shit on top of everything else that happens at the end of a semester. And for ages I've been planning on spending Saturday in Jackson at the wonderful crafts fair that occurs the first week in December every year. Today I was thinking that I should give up that idea -- that I need to be thinking about ARF decorations and stuff. But then another part of me said, "WHY?" It told me that giving up Saturday for a visit to the crafts fair in Jackson really, really wouldn't hurt the ARF banquet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:14:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32E0Bp032236 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:14:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f4.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32Cwg26896 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:12:58 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:12:53 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.7 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:12:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.7] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: DVD Players Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:12:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 02:12:53.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[F570B410:01C3B942] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What's a bobo? Bourgeois Bohemian - something like that. Coined by David Brooks in -Bobos in Paradise-. His thesis is that wasabi peas and supermarket sushi and hazelnut lattes are no longer confined to big cities and the coasts and are avaliable all across the country. Once exotic tastes now have mass appeal - something like that. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:15:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32FfBp032286 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:15:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:14:40 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB32Eeg27066 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:14:40 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:14:35 PST Message-ID: <20031203021435.99860.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > That was from the treasurer. And then the pres sent > me e-mail saying > he's going to be out of pocket the rest of the week > and asking me to > find a red rug and a fancy chair for Santa Claus to > sit on. And it > goes on and on, right here at the time I've got > students coming in with > the usual end-of-semester problems and pleas, etc. > etc. > > I'm sick of this f'ing banquet! Retired life ain't > easy. It's within the realm of possibility that you might have more time if you unretired. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:17:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32HIBp032332 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:17:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:16:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:16:17 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32FWg27177 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:15:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203021527.HYPK1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:15:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD4741.5090102@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:15:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: India References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > and just when I'm feeling > comfortable it's time to return. That sounds so very much like what I feel about holidays -- as in longish ones. About the time I finally get into the rhythm of the time off, the vacation ends. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:17:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32HJBp032335 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:17:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002035F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:16:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:16:17 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32G8g27215 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:16:08 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32FCpe017224 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:15:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCD4702.1050808@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: happy christmas to me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My new dishwasher was installed today. It smells all brandy-new and stuff. I've never had a new dishwasher before. Whee! Got a new garbage disposal, too. Ana put quarters down the old one a couple of years ago and we never got around to fixing it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32JABp032396 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:19:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65F7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:18:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:18:09 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB32I9g27436 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:18:09 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:18:02 PST Message-ID: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:18:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I shall visit a Comcast office later this seek. Woe be to Comcast. They do not realize with whom they deal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32NLBp032480 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:23:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65F6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:20 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32MKg27706 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203022215.IAVH1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD48D8.303@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:22:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> What's a bobo? > > Bourgeois Bohemian - something like that. Coined by David > Brooks in -Bobos in Paradise-. His thesis is that wasabi > peas and supermarket sushi and hazelnut lattes are no > longer confined to big cities and the coasts and are > avaliable all across the country. Once exotic tastes > now have mass appeal - something like that. Thanks. Something about the term "bourgeois Bohemian" strikes me as a bit pompous, though. In various ways. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:25:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32P7Bp032507 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:25:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65F80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:24:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32NFg27763 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32NFEF004692 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32NFJx022386 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:23:13 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <107199187.1070400193@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Today I was thinking that I should give up that > idea -- that I need to be thinking about ARF decorations and stuff. But > then another part of me said, "WHY?" It told me that giving up Saturday > for a visit to the crafts fair in Jackson really, really wouldn't hurt > the ARF banquet. > > -- You make it sound like you are the only person responsible for this little affair. Delegating such important tasks such as procuring Santa's chair and rug to someone in the group sounds like such a stress relieving task. You should definitely attend the crafts fair. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32QuBp032549 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:26:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:25:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:25:55 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32Ptg28003 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:25:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203022549.IBZB1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:25:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD49AF.8050603@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:25:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun References: <20031203021435.99860.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203021435.99860.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It's within the realm of possibility that you might > have more time if you unretired. Yes. For sure that would be true if I just hung on without publishing anything (which one can get away with in the last couple of years of employment since there's always a backlog period re publications). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:31:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32V2Bp032640 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:31:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A65FA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:30:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:30:01 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32Tug28581 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:30:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203022951.IDFS1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD4AA1.3040707@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:29:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: happy christmas to me References: <3FCD4702.1050808@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCD4702.1050808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Got a new garbage disposal, too. Ana put quarters down the > old one a couple of years ago and we never got around to > fixing it. How are you liking the garbage disposal after a couple of years without one? I had one in my previous house (after my kitchen remodeling) and sorely missed it when I moved into this house, but after living here for over two years, I'm totally used to not having one. Not having one feels . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:31:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32VRBp032644 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:31:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65FB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:30:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:30:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32KPg27601 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:20:25 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32JG61018194 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:19:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:20:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Is there a particular reason you choose to write checks for bills? I Most of my creditors have no other way of receiving funds (PF, blacksmith, etc.). I am contemplating switching for entities like Comcast. I am still concerned about security. Since I pay few bills, I don't consider it a large issue. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:32:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32WZBp032663 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:32:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A65FC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:31:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:31:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f61.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32VXg29008 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:31:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:31:28 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.249 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:31:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.249] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:31:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 02:31:28.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E06ACF0:01C3B945] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I eat of pizza, but the only time I've ever seen linguica on the >menu was at Mystic Pizza in > Connecticut. No wonder. I think your >statement a vast generalization, and not the case in many > pizza-eating >parts of the country. Like ones where Italians are making the pizza... I cannot resist adding my idiosyncracies to the pizza thread that will not die. Two things I do not eat are pepperoni and mushrooms, which happen be extremely popular pizza toppings especially in group settings. I've gotten very good at picking them off pizza slices - pepperoni isn't too bad but finding every last bit of mushroom can be a bitch. And now I'm reminded of eating pizza with pat'n'steph near Amsterdam airport after Floriade ... _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:34:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32YXBp032723 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:34:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65FCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:33:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:33:31 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32XVg29517 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:33:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203023326.IENK1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:33:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD4B77.5040905@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:33:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>I shall visit a Comcast office later this seek. > Woe be to Comcast. They do not realize with whom they deal. Hey, Bethany -- Since you're big into stuff like , I will appeal to you to be nice to Comcast. While walking back from the p.o. one day a week or two or three ago, I was glancing at one of those things constantly arriving in the mail that I normally don't look at -- something about mutual funds. And I saw Comcast listed as something I (via a mutal fund). So be nice to Comcast. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32Z6Bp032753 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020365D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:34:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 63396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:34:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32Nag27776 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:36 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32MT61019113 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCD400D.9040701@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD36DA.9000703@maynor.net> <3FCD400D.9040701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >The Faculty Women's Club is a group of retired people? No - faculty women (profs and wives of profs). That sounds like >an odd name for such a group. Or do you mean that only retired people >are on its board? Nobody else would have time - well, wives might, depending on whether thay also have careers. So far as I know, we have no org for retired persons. I've never heard of one. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:36:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32aABp032762 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:36:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00203664@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:35:08 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB32Z8g29943 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:35:08 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:35:01 PST Message-ID: <20031203023501.20741.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:35:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCD2F79.2030109@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > like "Alabama Super > Stars -- ABC -- 30/40." Is that a tv channel you > watch? At first I > couldn't figure out why there were such vehicles > parked around the > stadium, but then I remembered that our new fb coach > was to have a press > conference around that time from the M-Club > building, which is beside > the stadium -- as in sort of on top of part of it, I > guess. Yes, that's ABC 33/40 out of Birmingham. Of course, Croom at MSU would be a big story for any AL station, but 33/40 has bunches of stringers and they keep on top of even trivial local stories, in case they assume some importance. They drive us nuts when anything "strangely" criminal happens, and they are apt to turn up with lights, camera, and action, with no prior notice. We don't mind that, but usually the folks they want to talk to are not there, or are "indisposed". Of the several Birmingham network affiliates, 33/40 is the most likely to make an appearance. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:38:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32cCBp000306 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:38:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A65FE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:37:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:37:09 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f23.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32b6g30159 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:37:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:37:01 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.249 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:37:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.249] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:37:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 02:37:01.0082 (UTC) FILETIME=[545E47A0:01C3B946] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Neat! What are you doing between the night of the 25th and the morning >of the 29th? Or to speak more practically, what are you doing between >the 26th and 28th? I will arrive there late on the 25th and will depart >early on the 29th. We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet but I've pencilled you in. _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year — six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:39:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32dZBp000339 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:39:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66001@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:38:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:38:33 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32cXg30405 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:38:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203023828.IGHA1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:38:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD4CA6.4040506@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:38:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> <107199187.1070400193@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <107199187.1070400193@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > You make it sound like you are the only person responsible for this little > affair. I am. The xmas banquet is the duty of the vp. > Delegating such important tasks such as procuring Santa's chair > and rug to someone in the group sounds like such a stress relieving task. I have no assistants. I don't know to whom I could delegate that task. > You should definitely attend the crafts fair. I am very, very seriously inclined toward it. I would still have Sunday to contend with banquet chores. I won't have time on Monday since I'm giving an exam at 8:00 and then have to grade papers. And at 9:00 on Tuesday Armando (ARF pres) and I will meet in the Union ballroom to set stuff up. Still, though, my very fiber is calling out to go to Jackson Saturday. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:42:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32glBp000393 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:42:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020367F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:41:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:41:45 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB32fjg30707 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:41:45 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:41:39 PST Message-ID: <20031203024139.21005.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:41:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCD3475.4010704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I > think not since it was > published in 2002. I'm guessing that y'all have > been talking about one > still in hardback only. It is her theory that the painter Walter Siekert (sp) was the authentic JTR. In her interviews and in the blurbs, she purports to advance unassailable DNA evidence of the painter's guilt. I'm not buying her theory. I believe in DNA evidence absolutely, but she and her "experts" have been a little sloppy, in this case. For me, it was interesting, but not convincing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:46:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32kgBp000448 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:46:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66009@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:45:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 64574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:45:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32Zdg29984 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:35:39 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32YX61022050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:34:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:35:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCD4B77.5040905@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCD4B77.5040905@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Hey, Bethany -- Since you're big into stuff like , I will >appeal to you to be nice to Comcast. While walking back from the p.o. >one day a week or two or three ago, I was glancing at one of those >things constantly arriving in the mail that I normally don't look at -- >something about mutual funds. And I saw Comcast listed as something I > (via a mutal fund). So be nice to Comcast. Natalie, perhaps I will bill you for the interest on my triple and double payments ... since you own part of the company. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:53:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32rcBp000503 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:53:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00203669@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:52:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:52:36 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32qag31829 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:52:36 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32qZEF006164 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:52:35 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32qZJx027208 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:52:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:52:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Message-ID: <108959484.1070401953@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:37 AM +0000 Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Natalie: > >> Neat! What are you doing between the night of the 25th and the morning >> of the 29th? Or to speak more practically, what are you doing between >> the 26th and 28th? I will arrive there late on the 25th and will depart >> early on the 29th. > > We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet > but I've pencilled you in. > I'm beginning to think a nice 3 hour train ride to the city might be fun. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:54:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32shBp000514 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66037@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:53:42 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB32rgg31919 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:53:42 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:53:36 PST Message-ID: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:53:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Is there a particular reason you choose to write > checks for bills? I > realize that some people do prefer that method, but > it seems so very > to me in these days of bank-draft or > credit-card-draft. I > would hate to have to go back to the days of writing > checks every month > to pay bills. In this regard, I do as Bethany does. The only bank-drafts we've authorized are for insurance policies. Other than that, I want to decide what, when, how much, and to whom I render funds. And these days, free checking is commonplace. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:56:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32uJBp000529 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:56:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66030@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:55:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:55:18 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB32tHg32073 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:55:18 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:55:12 PST Message-ID: <20031203025512.13179.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCD3CC0.8000205@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't know. I am suddenly reminded of an engineer > friend of mine who > had to wait for hours in a doctor's office and sent > the doctor a bill > later for that time. The doctor paid. (I think it > was probably a sort > of joke on both their parts, but it in fact > happened.) And on year, the State of Alabama was broke once more, and didn't mail our tax refund for months. I demanded interest, and got it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 20:57:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB32v3Bp000544 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:57:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6603D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:56:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:56:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32k2g31068 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:46:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB32it61024486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:44:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:46:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCD4CA6.4040506@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> <107199187.1070400193@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD4CA6.4040506@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I am very, very seriously inclined toward it. I would still have Sunday >to contend with banquet chores. I won't have time on Monday since I'm And if everything doesn't get done, it just doesn't get done. You don't want to have to do this job again next year, do you? If not, then - do not do a perfect job. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB331HBp000649 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:01:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:00:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:00:15 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB330Fg32569 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:00:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203030010.QNKS1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:00:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD51BB.2060907@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:00:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: I meant to add to what I just wrote -- what security issues are you worried about? I feel in no way about my autopilot life, which I've been living for a good many years now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:03:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB333vBp000724 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:03:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66046@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:02:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:02:55 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB332tg00345 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:02:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203030250.QOLG1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:02:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD525B.9020706@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:02:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Two things I do not eat are pepperoni and mushrooms, which happen > be extremely popular pizza toppings especially in group settings. > I've gotten very good at picking them off pizza slices - pepperoni isn't > too bad but finding every last bit of mushroom can be a bitch. Different strokes really are quite different. Those are two of my favorite pizza toppings. Mushrooms more than pepperoni. I have to be in a particular mood to want pepperoni, but I am always in the mood to want mushrooms. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:09:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB339qBp000796 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:09:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00203676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:58:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 65351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:58:49 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB32wng32415 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:58:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203025843.QMVI1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:58:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD5165.9000400@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:58:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>Is there a particular reason you choose to write checks for bills? I > > Most of my creditors have no other way of receiving funds (PF, blacksmith, > etc.). I am contemplating switching for entities like Comcast. I am still > concerned about security. Since I pay few bills, I don't consider it a > large issue. I didn't give it much thought (as in considering it a large issue) until I discovered . Now I am totally spoiled. I write checks only for odd things. At times I worry about having forgotten how to write checks. Pretty much every thing in my life is on autopilot now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:13:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33DPBp000830 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:13:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A660C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33CNg01652 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33CLeO026730 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:12:22 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33CKa2026711; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:12:20 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031202191357.00a703c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:14:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCD2D5C.8090409@maynor.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:25 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>I do like denser bread usually but sometimes, like in potato chip >>sandwiches, white bread rules! > >Is this the kind of geographical thing Boo was alluding to? Are >potato-chip sandwiches a California thing? I found the recipe in my White Trash Cookbook. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33DaBp000841 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020379B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:25 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33COg01658 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203031219.QSKZ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:12:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD5495.5040009@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:12:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031203023501.20741.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203023501.20741.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>Stars -- ABC -- 30/40." Is that a tv channel you > > Yes, that's ABC 33/40 out of Birmingham. Of course, I carefully stored in my brain 33/40 when I passed that truck today, but then stupidly wrote 30/40. It was indeed 33/40. > Croom at MSU would be a big story for any AL station, > but 33/40 has bunches of stringers and they keep on Have you watched tv tonight? Did Croom show up? I haven't turned on tv in the past several days. I meant to tonight but never got around to it, and now it's almost bedtime. > top of even trivial local stories, in case they assume > some importance. They drive us nuts when anything > "strangely" criminal happens, and they are apt to turn > up with lights, camera, and action, with no prior > notice. We don't mind that, but usually the folks > they want to talk to are not there, or are > "indisposed". I hadn't thought about that aspect of your job -- the media stuff. At least it keeps life . > Of the several Birmingham network affiliates, 33/40 is > the most likely to make an appearance. I'm thinking that it was the one I had to get a letter of permission from to get ABC via satellite. I'm almost sure it was. It was the closest ABC station, according to the DirecTV people, and thus I had to get a letter from them saying that my signal would be bad. What a hassle all that was -- and for no real reason since I have never, as far as I remember, turned on the dish-fed ABC that I finally got. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:14:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33E7Bp000871 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:14:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002037AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:13:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:13:06 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33D5g01766 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:13:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203031300.QSTQ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:13:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD54BE.8060405@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:13:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCD4B77.5040905@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Natalie, perhaps I will bill you for the interest on my triple and double > payments ... since you own part of the company. Sounds reasonable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33FBBp000900 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:15:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A660ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:14:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 66985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:14:09 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33E9g02132 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:14:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203031404.QTEB1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:14:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD54FD.8090604@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:14:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet > but I've pencilled you in. Sounds good. I am honored to be a pencil mark in your calendar. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:19:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33JUBp000950 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:19:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A660FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:18:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:18:28 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33ISg02633 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:18:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203031823.QUVC1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:18:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD55FB.9080804@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:18:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <20031203024139.21005.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203024139.21005.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It is her theory that the painter Walter Siekert (sp) > was the authentic JTR. In her interviews and in the > blurbs, she purports to advance unassailable DNA > evidence of the painter's guilt. I'm not buying her > theory. I believe in DNA evidence absolutely, but she > and her "experts" have been a little sloppy, in this > case. For me, it was interesting, but not convincing. Are you saying that what I bought in the grocery store today was not a novel -- was a PC non-fiction attempt? That will disappoint me, though I guess the menion of JtR should have alerted me to that. My brain is feeling more and more flaccid every day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33KLBp000956 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:20:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A660EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:19:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:19:20 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33JJg02684 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:19:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203031914.QVDF1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD5634.2030805@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:19:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <108959484.1070401953@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <108959484.1070401953@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet >> but I've pencilled you in. >> > I'm beginning to think a nice 3 hour train ride to the city might be fun. Yes! Sounds like an excellent idea! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:22:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33MYBp000995 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:22:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:21:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:21:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33LWg02920 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:21:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33LVeO003332 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:21:31 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33LTa2003311; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:21:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:23:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <108959484.1070401953@TWild.uri.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:52 PM 12/2/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >--On Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:37 AM +0000 Rashmi Murthy > wrote: > >>Natalie: >> >>>Neat! What are you doing between the night of the 25th and the morning >>>of the 29th? Or to speak more practically, what are you doing between >>>the 26th and 28th? I will arrive there late on the 25th and will depart >>>early on the 29th. >> >>We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet >>but I've pencilled you in. > >I'm beginning to think a nice 3 hour train ride to the city might be fun. > >Terry The rates from here are under $300! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:23:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33NwBp001004 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:23:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6610A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:22:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:22:57 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33Mvg03144 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:22:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203032252.QWKR1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:22:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD570D.7040402@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:22:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > policies. Other than that, I want to decide what, > when, how much, and to whom I render funds. And these > days, free checking is commonplace. I've had free checking for what feels like forever. It's not a matter of cost. To me it's a matter of convenience. My bills all get paid without my having to give any thought or effort to it. And I of course get notifications of the paying of the bills, so it's not as if money is mysteriously leaving my checking account. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:26:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33QKBp001063 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:26:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6612C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:25:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:25:19 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33PIg03491 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:25:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203032513.QXIK1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:25:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD579B.2020504@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:25:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> <107199187.1070400193@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD4CA6.4040506@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>I am very, very seriously inclined toward it. I would still have Sunday >>to contend with banquet chores. I won't have time on Monday since I'm > > And if everything doesn't get done, it just doesn't get done. You don't > want to have to do this job again next year, do you? If not, then - do not > do a perfect job. Being VP is a one-year job. I will be Pres next year. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:28:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33StBp001111 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:28:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66120@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:53 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33Rrg03714 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203032739.QYGT1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD582C.7010909@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:27:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <20031203025512.13179.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203025512.13179.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And on year, the State of Alabama was broke once more, > and didn't mail our tax refund for months. I demanded > interest, and got it. I hated that Riley's tax plan lost in the vote. And I loved that a Republican proposed the change. I'm sure that my RRB&SIL were spitting fire since they had of course given megabucks to Riley. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:31:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33VPBp001156 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:31:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66146@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:30:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:30:24 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33UNg04061 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:30:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203033018.QZEH1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD58C8.2070403@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:30:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202075103.00b61f80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202191357.00a703c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031202191357.00a703c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I found the recipe in my White Trash Cookbook. I should consult mine. I haven't looked in it lately. There's a sequel out, but I don't have it. I have just the original. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:32:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33WfBp001175 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:32:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66132@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33Vdg04220 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33Vb2f018996 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:31:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33VaJC018954; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:31:37 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031202193352.00a68b40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:34:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCD579B.2020504@maynor.net> References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> <101542921.1070394537@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD3DB4.8020605@maynor.net> <105107796.1070398102@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD46A4.1050602@maynor.net> <107199187.1070400193@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD4CA6.4040506@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:25 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >>>I am very, very seriously inclined toward it. I would still have Sunday >>>to contend with banquet chores. I won't have time on Monday since I'm >> >>And if everything doesn't get done, it just doesn't get done. You don't >>want to have to do this job again next year, do you? If not, then - do not >>do a perfect job. > >Being VP is a one-year job. I will be Pres next year. Hail! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:32:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33WgBp001178 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:32:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66145@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:41 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33Veg04224 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.166.43]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203033136.QZNZ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:31:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCD5919.2060606@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:31:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: >> I'm beginning to think a nice 3 hour train ride to the city might be fun. >> >> Terry > > The rates from here are under $300! Do it!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:33:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33XbBp001189 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:33:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66153@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:32:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 67900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:32:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB33WZg04369 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:32:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33WY2f020487 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:32:34 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB33WXJC020451 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:32:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:34:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCD5919.2060606@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>>I'm beginning to think a nice 3 hour train ride to the city might be fun. >>> >>>Terry >> >>The rates from here are under $300! > >Do it!! > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Where are you staying? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 21:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB33nKBp001402 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:49:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00203895@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:48:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 68627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:48:18 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB33mIg05850 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:48:18 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:48:12 PST Message-ID: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCD55FB.9080804@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Are you saying that what I bought in the grocery > store today was not a > novel -- was a PC non-fiction attempt? In short, yes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 22:23:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB34N1Bp001915 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:23:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66400@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:21:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:21:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB34Lwg11168 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:21:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB34LJDS005907 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:21:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:21:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16110603058.20031202222157@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > In this regard, I do as Bethany does. The only > bank-drafts we've authorized are for insurance > policies. Other than that, I want to decide what, > when, how much, and to whom I render funds. What makes you think you can't do this with online bill pay? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 22:24:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB34OZBp001945 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:24:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A663F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:23:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 73934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:23:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB34NXg11338 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:23:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB34MsDS007465 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:22:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:23:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1855058264.20031202222332@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCD5634.2030805@maynor.net> References: <108959484.1070401953@TWild.uri.edu> <3FCD5634.2030805@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Terry Wild wrote: >>> We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet >>> but I've pencilled you in. >>> >> I'm beginning to think a nice 3 hour train ride to the city might be fun. > Yes! Sounds like an excellent idea! Good knitting time! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 2 22:28:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB34SkBp001991 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:28:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66409@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:27:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 74111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:27:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB34Rig11685 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:27:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB34Rerm011266 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:27:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1425122700.20031202222740@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A few Brazilian stereotypes In-Reply-To: <3FCCCF65.10563.2484DDD5@localhost> References: <3FCCCF65.10563.2484DDD5@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > Everyone smokes everywhere. > Every restaurant we encountered was completely non-smoking, as were > all offices. Even a couple of bars were not very smoky. *Nothing* > like France! YaY! I need to go to Brazil. > Third world poverty "in your face". > Far fewer panhandlers on the downtown streets than in Toronto or > New York. A few obviously very poor people collecting junk (old > construction material etc.) in little carts, but very > unobtrusively. A very few people actually sleeping on the streets. > All this is, of course, not to deny the existence of millions of > people living in the favelas, but they are relatively isolated or > at least invisible from the business and tourist areas. My friend was there for quite a while--several months, I think. And said the same thing. But wait--I just realized, he's Canadian, too! That explains the similarity in perceptions. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 01:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3757Bp004409 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:05:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A667FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 2:04:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 82722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:04:04 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3743g28358 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:04:03 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB373vEH028690 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:03:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c3b96b$b7cb5060$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: India Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:04:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB3757Bp004409 Back to the original subject . . . This week in India Sara heard that the Nebraska coach had been fired. Now, I mean that is important world news. And this morning she was blessed in a Hindu temple. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 01:09:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3793Bp004463 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 01:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00203E60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 2:07:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 82900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:07:57 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3779g28931 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:07:11 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB3778kF007178 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:07:08 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB3778bn007176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:07:08 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:07:08 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031203070708.GA7167@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77883@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77883@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = UltraEdit. $30. It's about all I've ever used for web work (including = before it received several awards). = = When I used to do lots of online technical support in Charles Carroll's = email-based lists, people would ask which software to use. UltraEdit bare = none. TextEdit is a close second. UltraEdit is nice now that UltraCompare = is out and when you run File|Compare in UltraEdit with UltraCompare = installed, it'll switch to UltraCompare automagically [sic]. Ah, a man after my own heart. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 05:43:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3BhLBp009007 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 05:43:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A669A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 6:42:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:42:16 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3BgGg13756 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:42:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203114210.MQDA12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:42:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCDCC14.7080500@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:42:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Where are you staying? The Wellington. I've stayed there before and found it quite pleasant. It's also a super location if you happen to be going to anything at Carnegie Hall, which I think I'm not since there doesn't seem to be much happening there at that time. The Wellington is tricky re prices -- sometimes there are great bargains but not always. I can't remember now exactly what my bargain was -- have that info somewhere, I guess -- but it was pretty good. If you just go to their website, though, you sometimes can get the impression that all the rooms are quite expensive (or at least from my pov of what constitutes expensiveness). That's because the site lists only what is available on the dates you're interested in -- like if the cheaper rooms are already booked, you don't know they exist. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 05:44:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3BilBp009035 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 05:44:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A669B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 6:43:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:43:42 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Bhgg13814 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:43:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203114337.MQIS12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:43:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:43:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>Are you saying that what I bought in the grocery >>store today was not a >>novel -- was a PC non-fiction attempt? > > In short, yes. I'm disappointed. It's not that I don't like non-fiction. I love it at times. It's just that I want a PC novel sitting in my waiting-til-holidays stack, not a PC non-fiction. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 05:51:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3BpRBp009227 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 05:51:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A669C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 6:50:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:49:50 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Bnng14228 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:49:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.159.180]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203114944.MRMO12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:49:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCDCDDA.6000007@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:49:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <16110603058.20031202222157@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <16110603058.20031202222157@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>In this regard, I do as Bethany does. The only >>bank-drafts we've authorized are for insurance >>policies. Other than that, I want to decide what, >>when, how much, and to whom I render funds. > > What makes you think you can't do this with online bill pay? I've never liked the idea of online bill pay. I'd just as soon go on and write a check and put a stamp on an envelope. What I like about bank draft or credit-card draft is the automaticity of it -- not having to do anything at all (except subtract the amount in my checkbook in the case of bank draft). I think I like direct bank draft better than credit-card draft because in the latter case you have to tell all the places the new expiration date when your card expires. (I say "direct" bank draft because my credit-card drafts are also ultimately bank drafts since my credit-card bill is paid by bank draft.) Anyway, I noticed the hassle a few months ago when my old Visa expired and was replaced with a new one -- same number of course, just different expiration date. I wonder if there are never-expiring Visas. I should inquire. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 05:56:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3BuRBp009294 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 05:56:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A669BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 6:55:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:55:22 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3BtMg14524 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:55:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3BtHGR017738 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 03:55:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCDCED4.5030609@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 05:53:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: happy christmas to me References: <3FCD4702.1050808@swbell.net> <3FCD4AA1.3040707@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Got a new garbage disposal, too. Ana put quarters down the >> old one a couple of years ago and we never got around to >> fixing it. > > > How are you liking the garbage disposal after a couple of years without > one? I had one in my previous house (after my kitchen remodeling) and > sorely missed it when I moved into this house, but after living here for > over two years, I'm totally used to not having one. Not having one > feels . I haven't used the new one yet. I find I adjust to having or not having a disposal and/or dishwasher pretty easily. They're nice to have, though. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 06:13:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3CDpBp009583 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A669ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 7:12:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:12:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3CCjg01684 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:12:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB3CCikF007602 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:12:44 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB3CCiGj007600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:12:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:12:44 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun Message-ID: <20031203121244.GA7532@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I'm sick of this f'ing banquet! Retired life ain't easy. = --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) Quityerbitchin. You asked for it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 06:30:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3CULBp009897 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:30:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66A04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 7:29:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 87704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:29:16 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3CTGg03174 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:29:16 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 38822953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:29:07 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm disappointed. It's not that I don't like non-fiction. I love it at > times. It's just that I want a PC novel sitting in my > waiting-til-holidays stack, not a PC non-fiction. > > Natalie, If you are looking for the Patricia Cornwell that you are used to, skip the JTR book. It will disappoint, although I did find it interesting to read. The book that several of us have read recently (still in hardback) is Blow Fly. The one prior to that was Final Precinct. If you haven't yet read that one, you should be able to find it in paperback by now. It will prepare you for some of Blow Fly but not for chapter 15. :-) Rita L. -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 07:09:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3D9XBp010575 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:09:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66AA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 8:08:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 88727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:08:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3CwRg06047 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:58:27 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3CvJ61014819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:57:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:58:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCD51BB.2060907@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> <3FCD51BB.2060907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >PS: I meant to add to what I just wrote -- what security issues are you >worried about? Hacking, spamming. It happens to the best. For instance, my personal website disappeared two weeks ago - because of an invasion of a worm into a server. I'm not much on autopilot in any area of my life. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 07:46:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3DkBBp010979 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:46:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66B92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 8:45:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:45:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Dj2g15116 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:45:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002041C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 8:45:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031345.hB3Dj2g15116@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:45:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:41:09 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Terry Wild wrote: > >> --On Monday, December 01, 2003 10:59 PM -0500 Carolyn Ostrander >> wrote: >> >>> make bobbin and needle lace >> >> >> Wow, I've seen some of this done. Extremely lovely and extremely >> intensive. > > > Karolin's grandmother has sent me beautiful pieces of her >tatted lace the past few Christmases. I have a gorgeous >tatted lace nativity scene she made for me -- in a frame >hand-made by Karolin's grandfather. I frankly find tatting almost as bad as crosstitch. Bobbin lace is much easier and more fun. You have a slew of bobbins you have to keep straight, but you basically hold a pair of bobbins in each hand, and either twist (cross the two bobbins in one pair) or cross (the right-most bobbin in the left hand exchanged with the left-most bobbin in the right hand). Every thing else is just pinning periodically to hold the lace in place until finished, and following the pattern, which lies underneath the piece. Now you know how to make fancy lace. I made my first piece with coarse crochet thread and used round wooden clothespins for bobbins. I used a lampshade for a "pillow", and worked standing. It was a lot of fun, and produced something that looked similar to a macrame belt - but was a terrific way to learn the basics; any kid of 6 or older could easily do it. I got to the point of making 1" trim at the rate of abt 1"/hr; but of course doing more would result in doing it faster. I do love it; but it's hard to find a place to keep a work in progress where it won't get moved and the threads tangled. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 07:56:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Du7Bp011081 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:56:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002041D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 8:55:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 92969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:55:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Dt0g17368 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:55:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204206@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 8:55:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:55:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:38:54 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >> I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot >> play bridge. > >How did you manage to make it to adulthood? But then you are using >present tense. I have no memory of how to knit or crochet, so I could >say that I cannot do them. I do remember a wee bit more about playing >bridge, though it is also something I have not done in years -- except >that I used to play bridge on my computer at times -- I wonder what >happened to that bridge game -- hadn't thought about it in a long time. > All three of those, however, were assumed to be universal in my >growing-up years. Saying "I play bridge" would have been posting rich where I grew up - but in fact, this list reminds me of my early lifeplan: I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. (as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory work as well) "knit, crochet, and play bridge" sounds to me like the pastimes I envisioned for '50s suburban wives - along with making little sandwiches for tea. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3E3EBp011160 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:03:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66C38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:02:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 94040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:02:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3E27g20116 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:02:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204245@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:02:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031402.hB3E27g20116@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:02:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:12:48 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>What's a bobo? > >Bourgeois Bohemian - something like that. Coined by David >Brooks in -Bobos in Paradise-. His thesis is that wasabi >peas and supermarket sushi and hazelnut lattes are no >longer confined to big cities and the coasts and are >avaliable all across the country. Once exotic tastes >now have mass appeal - something like that. And omigod what a bad thing it would be if we picked up each other's habits! We should definitely coin a pejorative term for it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:06:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3E64Bp011204 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:06:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66C48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:04:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 94210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:04:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3E4wg20687 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:04:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020425D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:04:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031404.hB3E4wg20687@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:04:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:37:00 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Natalie: > >>Neat! What are you doing between the night of the 25th and the morning >>of the 29th? Or to speak more practically, what are you doing between >>the 26th and 28th? I will arrive there late on the 25th and will depart >>early on the 29th. > >We'll have to do something. I don't know what my plans are yet >but I've pencilled you in. > Sounds to me like the FTF just organized itself! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:10:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EAZBp011256 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66C91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:09:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 94726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:09:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe44.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.16]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3E9Tg22072 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:09:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 06:09:23 -0800 Received: from 199.174.1.77 by law9-oe44.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:09:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.1.77] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] X-Sender: amyb_short@hotmail.com From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:10:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 14:09:23.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D8BAB40:01C3B9A7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Saying "I play bridge" would have been posting rich where I grew up - but in fact, this list reminds me of my early lifeplan: >I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. (as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory work as well) >"knit, crochet, and play bridge" sounds to me like the pastimes I envisioned for '50s suburban wives - along with making little sandwiches for tea. >clo Have a look at this from The Spectator -- not totally unrelated (perhaps a bit inverted, however): http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?table=old§ion=current&issue=2003 -11-29&id=3781 Women who won't Rod Liddle says there may be good reasons for women to stay at home, but a lot of them do it because they are plain idle What is it that afflicts our women at the moment? They seem gripped by a terrible lassitude, a paralysis, as though of hemlock, etc., etc. One by one, bourgeois women the length and breadth of the country are turning to their husbands or lovers, and later to their bosses, and sighing a little and saying, 'Do you know, I think I've had enough of this being at work thing. I'd like to cut down. Go part-time. Or maybe - and tell me what you reckon to this - stop altogether.' And the husbands, lovers, bosses sort of suck their teeth and say, a little ruefully, 'Um, me too, now you come to mention it. Chance would be a fine thing,' and so on. And then they accede, usually. And the women disappear, maybe to the gym or the wine bar or Selfridges, their brains having lapsed into happy desuetude. Check around your office for a few minutes (if you're deluded enough still to be working in one). How many women there have gone part-time, recently? How many women have given up work altogether? How many women went part-time because they were having a baby but now, four years later, just look - they' re still part-time? What's happening to them? Where's that vaulting ambition to break through the infamous and repellent glass ceiling? Where's the bloody work ethic? And how should the men respond? According to a survey by the Equal Opportunities Commission, only 57 per cent of women work full-time. Fewer than half of married women work, whereas 94 per cent of married men work full-time. What's more, don't think it's just the kiddies who are to blame: only 58 per cent of married women with no children bother to work. Despite four decades of what we might call 'progressive' legislation designed to enforce equality within the workplace, the number of babes plying some sort of trade isn't rising very much. There was no proportional (as opposed to actual) rise in women working between 1993 and 2003, for example. And it's still the case that 82 per cent of part-time workers are women. Because, when they do work, women, they don't like to work for very long. I rang the Equal Opportunities Commission and said to them, 'Look, women still aren't going to work full-time. Maybe it isn't discrimination in the workplace, sexist attitudes in the home and an unequal distribution of domestic labour, ignorance of pension rights, childcare problems or a deep-rooted, culturally determined socialisation which makes women stay at home. Maybe it's just that women are inherently bone-idle right down to the tips of their lovely little fingers. Why don't you do a study on that?' They begged to differ, although, crucially, they agreed that they could not rule out the possibility that at least some women, bless them, were inveterately lazy. 'Yes, all right, some might be idle, I suppose,' they concurred, good-humouredly. But largely they blamed other stuff, the sort of things I mentioned above. Yet I'm not sure that those arguments quite add up. Let us accept that there is still sexism in certain sectors of the economy - the City, one imagines, for a start. And maybe plumbing. And let us also concede that successive governments have not helped women into employment through a stoical refusal to embrace decent childcare legislation. And, at present, people who employ nannies are rewarded if they commit tax fraud and themselves encourage tax fraud in the nanny; this is a nonsense and should be stopped. But it doesn't quite explain why this acts as a disincentive solely for women to do a hard day's work. Luckily, I've done my own case studies, a body of work that may one day be accepted by the scientific community as the definitive research on this controversial and vexing issue. I draw from a sample of three bourgeois women, aged between 34 and 41, and whom I shall refer to as Women A, B and C (as they might do in the Lancet), so as to disguise the fact that they are personal friends. Two of them - of whom one earned much more than her husband - have already given up work. The other one has gone part-time and is finding even that a bit bloody much, frankly. And from exhaustive interviews I have identified the following reasons why women at a certain stage of life, once the kiddies have started going to school and when the working world is open before them, suddenly give up the ghost. Nanny-envy: a massive factor for all three women. The financial iniquities of the childcare system and the high cost of nannies, particularly in London, are an exacerbating rather than a definitive factor here. It's a decidedly more personal thing; indeed, nanny-envy can sometimes teeter over into nanny-spite or a visceral nanny-hatred - especially, it would seem, if the nanny is very young and attractive. Why is this bitch looking after my children? And, worse, why do the children ask, a little wistfully, where she is of a weekend? They can't possibly like her, can they? Do they like her more than me? Do they love her? And then there's the nanny lifestyle. Woman C remembers coming home from a typically enervating day at work on a gloriously hot evening and saying to the nanny, 'Hi, how's your day been?' And rather gallingly, the nanny replied, 'Oh, fine. I've just sat by the pool and watched the children all day.' Within the month, Woman C had given up work and the nanny was jobless. And, indeed, pool-less. Serves the bitch right, no? Mummy-guilt: allied to the above is the dark foreboding that they are doing the wrong thing by being away from the kids all day. I dare say the EOC would describe this foreboding as a deeply internalised norm, but the women in my little study insist that it is an ineluctable biological thing. And it gets worse when they witness their children emerge from a prelapsarian state and start calling each other uncouth, lower-class things like 'wanker' and 'dickhead' and 'homo'. That's my fault, the women say to themselves, reproachfully. I should have been there. And Woman A remembers how, when she was a child, she envied the children who had mummies at home, rather than mummies at work. 'And there's a special bond, isn't there, between mother and child?' said Woman A. No, there bloody well isn't. Not if we believe what we've been told by 40 years of feminist argument. And, frankly, I do. So, grab your briefcase and clear off to work. And take the bin out, will you, while you're at it. Yummy Mummy Syndrome: this is an absolutely ghastly phrase and certainly not of my creating. It has been coined to describe affluent stay-at-home mothers who actually don't stay at home but spend all day at the gym or the salon, being honed and rubbed and pampered by dubious Mediterranean-looking men called Paolo. As a result, they have looks to die for, apparently. They are fit, in both the traditional and degraded sense of the word. And the women who work, and consequently look haggard and drawn and embittered, hate them for it. And wish to be them, also. Taedium Vitae: because work, when it comes down to it, isn't that great, is it? Woman B pronounced it 'tiring', work. Really? Well, blow me down. And of course the women in my little sample group have passed the age where work is a new and vibrant thing full of endless opportunity and has become, instead, a means to an end. And for the three of them, the end - i.e., money - is not a burning necessity. Not if daddy goes to work every bloody hour that God sends. Don't forget that Woman B earns nearly twice as much as her husband. But the pragmatic rules do not seem to apply. Why is this? The conclusion we might draw from all of this is that a) there are indeed cultural pressures that contribute to keeping women in the home and b) there are in some cases economic pressures also, but c) a lot of women don't work because they don't like working - for many of the reasons why men don't like working, if we're honest. It's a drudge. It never stops. It is replete with stressful vicissitudes or endless mundanities. And the old arguments that men used to marshal to keep women locked to the kitchen sink (and which, I dare say, a few mutton-headed oafs continue to mouth even now) are increasingly being marshalled by the women to enable them to stay at home. Perhaps one day they will tell us all that 17th-century doctors were absolutely correct to aver that women who thought too long and hard would find their brains exploded all over the floor. More research needs to be done, of course. I have dealt only with middle-class women and therefore work needs to be done among the proletariat. I don't know many working-class women; they don't seem to like me. They think I'm effete, for some reason. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:18:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EI4Bp011378 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:18:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66CBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:16:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:16:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3EGwg23248 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:16:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3EGm6X019890 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:16:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:16:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1172727981.20031203081651@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCDCDDA.6000007@maynor.net> References: <20031203025336.78402.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <16110603058.20031202222157@WordWrite.com> <3FCDCDDA.6000007@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >>>In this regard, I do as Bethany does. The only >>>bank-drafts we've authorized are for insurance >>>policies. Other than that, I want to decide what, >>>when, how much, and to whom I render funds. >> >> What makes you think you can't do this with online bill pay? > I've never liked the idea of online bill pay. I'd just as soon go on > and write a check and put a stamp on an envelope. What I like about > bank draft or credit-card draft is the automaticity of it -- not having > to do anything at all (except subtract the amount in my checkbook in the > case of bank draft). But Lynne doesn't like the automaticity. And it's certainly not required. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:19:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EJ1Bp011385 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:19:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66CDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:17:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:17:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3EHng24011 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:17:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3EH8DS016462 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:17:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:17:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1428164364.20031203081751@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why Retirement Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <20031203121244.GA7532@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <20031203121244.GA7532@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, steph wrote: > = > = I'm sick of this f'ing banquet! Retired life ain't easy. > = --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > Quityerbitchin. You asked for it. It's not like being retired automatically means your life is overfull with responsibilities. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:20:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EKNBp011391 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:20:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66CFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:19:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 95805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:19:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3EJHg24595 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:19:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3EJ56X022189 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:19:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:19:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <916187581.20031203081908@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> <3FCD51BB.2060907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>PS: I meant to add to what I just wrote -- what security issues are you >>worried about? > Hacking, spamming. It happens to the best. For instance, my personal > website disappeared two weeks ago - because of an invasion of a worm into > a server. > I'm not much on autopilot in any area of my life. But you can't worry about everything all of the time. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:25:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EPABp011442 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:25:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204309@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:23:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3ENtg25378 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:23:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3ENnrm001544 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:23:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:23:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1463457027.20031203082351@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: DVD Players In-Reply-To: <200312031402.hB3E27g20116@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031402.hB3E27g20116@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > And omigod what a bad thing it would be if we picked up > each other's habits! We should definitely coin a pejorative > term for it. Somehow I feel less than enthusiastic about reclaiming the term "bobo". Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:31:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EVtBp011547 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:31:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66D4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:30:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:49 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3EUmg26596 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:49 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3EUmEF029636 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:48 -0500 Received: from [131.128.23.208] (CCEDU208.nets.uri.edu [131.128.23.208]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3EUkK0019503 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:48 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3369a0332af6.332af63369a0@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:29:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> I haven't yet tried The Mermaid (nor have I even started the model >> to hang there), >> but I much prefer The Red cat to The Harrison. > >Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? It's been a while. > This gathering is getting big for The Red Cat, but that is probably OK if we start early. They open at 5. /Jim >Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:34:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EYBBp011559 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:34:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66D60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:33:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 96883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:33:05 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3EX5g27076 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:33:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 24920 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 14:32:59 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-6.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 14:32:59 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DAE12F7 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:32:58 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070461979!906299 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:32:59 -0500 Message-ID: <002301c3b9aa$59bad060$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lynne Weber >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:18 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun > > >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" >wrote: >> I shall visit a Comcast office later this seek. > > >Woe be to Comcast. They do not realize with whom they deal. > Comcast rocks!! They gave us bad service, so they gave us a month's credit. They are a wonderful Philly company. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:36:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EaWBp011586 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:36:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66D6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:35:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 97025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:35:26 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3EZQg27542 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:35:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 1460 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 14:35:19 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-7.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 14:35:19 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F15012F7 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:35:19 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070462119!905779 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: UMASS, Amherst Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <002401c3b9aa$ad8ec660$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <3FCD2CFF.8040600@maynor.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:23 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst > > >Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >> This kind of chat did not bother me at all. That is what >makes words-l work. >> When you and Bethany were planning a trip and boring us with >the details, >> that was the part that pissed me off. > >Ah, so some people's trip-planning bores you and pisses you off, while >other people's trip-planning doesn't bother you. I understand now. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Not true, You both discussed every single facet of the trip. Enough detail to choke a pig. It would have much more considerate for you to take to private email. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:54:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3EssBp011810 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:54:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66E63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:53:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:53:48 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Ermg00698 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:53:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66E75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:53:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031453.hB3Ermg00698@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:53:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: DVD Players To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:23:51 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> And omigod what a bad thing it would be if we picked up >> each other's habits! We should definitely coin a pejorative >> term for it. > >Somehow I feel less than enthusiastic about reclaiming the term >"bobo". > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Karen, It's shocked and surprised I am at you, dearie - denying your bourgoisie, come on now, breathe deep and release the inner Bobo! clo, past pres - Betty Bundt Fan Club From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 08:57:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Ev3Bp011828 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:57:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A66E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:55:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 99577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:55:57 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Etvg01172 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:55:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A66E72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:55:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031455.hB3Etvg01172@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:55:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:35:20 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Enough detail to choke a pig. > >alec Fond as I am of this phrase, please consider how this reflects on you! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:09:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3F95Bp011959 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A66F26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:07:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 100041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:07:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Evug02364 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:57:56 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3Eum61025047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:56:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:57:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <916187581.20031203081908@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> <3FCD51BB.2060907@maynor.net> <916187581.20031203081908@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> I'm not much on autopilot in any area of my life. > >But you can't worry about everything all of the time. Fortunately, there are many options. Autopilot and worrying are probably opposite ends of a continuum. My bill-paying is organized, quick, and painless. And as we know, I enjoy fooling with money, working with budgets, and engaging in financial planning. And I am beginning to love the market. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FO7Bp012137 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:24:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020454C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:23:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 102877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:23:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FMxg09147 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:23:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3FMt6X025072 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:22:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:22:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <73762043.20031203092258@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <3FCD3C1C.80404@maynor.net> <3FCD51BB.2060907@maynor.net> <916187581.20031203081908@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > My bill-paying is organized, quick, and painless. And as we know, I enjoy > fooling with money, working with budgets, and engaging in financial > planning. True. I enjoy this, too--when I have an income. But the only check I write is for my mortgage, because they don't have one-time EFTs. I do the rest of the payments over the web, when they are due. It's faster, and I don't have to mess with stamps and envelopes. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FmIBp012499 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A670E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:38 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Fjcg14863 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:38 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB00DMNT2R0F@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:44:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:40:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:40:40 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3afb813adb9a.3adb9a3afb81@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was hoping to have a Laszlo date with you but a trip to the Red Cat sounds good! Both is not possible, and I don't think The Red Dog can go to The Red Cat. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2003 7:43 pm Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > I meant after the Christmas-New Years run of holidays. Between > Jan 2 and Jan 10, say. Weather permitting... > > Hmm. Let us click this planning into high gear. I could do it > betweenJan. 2 and 10, but I would need to start planning -- to > cash in ff miles > and to get Spencer a reservation at Furrbabies. I guess it would be > kind of weird to fly home from NYC on Dec. 29 (which is what I > will be > doing) and turn around and fly back there a few days later. But > that'slife. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FmIBp012501 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204655@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:47:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:47:11 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FlBg15500 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:47:11 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB00EJYT6O08@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:42:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:42:59 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <35b1be355cc4.355cc435b1be@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You can order cherry pie filling from a number of > places in Door County, Wis. Absolutely the best. > > http://tinyurl.com/xfsq But I don't want cherry pie filling. I want pitted sour cherries so I can make a cherry pie like my granny's. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FmIBp012498 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A670A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:43:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:43:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FhBg14223 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:43:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:43:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77889@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:43:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:44 AM > Lynne Weber wrote: > >>Are you saying that what I bought in the grocery > >>store today was not a > >>novel -- was a PC non-fiction attempt? > > > > In short, yes. > > I'm disappointed. It's not that I don't like non-fiction. I > love it at > times. It's just that I want a PC novel sitting in my > waiting-til-holidays stack, not a PC non-fiction. For me, it's short stories. After reading them, it's either "I'm glad that wasn't a full novel" or "I wish that'd been a full novel so I could have gotten even more out of it." It's almost as if they were to take a sitcom running at twenty-three minutes first run and chopping it to ten minutes for syndication. (then again, it's horrible to watch something[1] in syndication e.g., M*A*S*H, Seinfeld; watch it in syndication, and know where they chopped it to fit the time allotted) [1] Having seen the episode(s) too many times: M*A*S*H with over 200 episodes and Seinfeld not far behind. Generally, I don't *watch* them, they're on in the background just as music would be - just to have something masking tinnitus. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FmIBp012500 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A670E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:50 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Fjog14959 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:50 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:45:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:50 AM > Karen Kay wrote: > > > On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > >>In this regard, I do as Bethany does. The only > >>bank-drafts we've authorized are for insurance > >>policies. Other than that, I want to decide what, > >>when, how much, and to whom I render funds. > > > > What makes you think you can't do this with online bill pay? > > I've never liked the idea of online bill pay. I'd just as soon go on > and write a check and put a stamp on an envelope. What I like about > bank draft or credit-card draft is the automaticity of it -- > hassle a few months ago when my old Visa expired and was > replaced with a > new one -- same number of course, just different expiration date. I > wonder if there are never-expiring Visas. I should inquire. I never went back and read the fine print, but CostCo and Sam's Club both renew the cards annually, adding the fee to your next bill. Most of what I use CostCo for is the discounted gas. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FmIBp012497 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6702C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:37:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 104102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:37:10 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FbAg12084 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:37:10 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:37:04 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77888@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:36:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:25 PM > Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > >>I am very, very seriously inclined toward it. I would > still have Sunday > >>to contend with banquet chores. I won't have time on > Monday since I'm > > > > And if everything doesn't get done, it just doesn't get > done. You don't > > want to have to do this job again next year, do you? If > not, then - do not > > do a perfect job. > > Being VP is a one-year job. I will be Pres next year. Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FpABp012541 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:51:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6710E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:50:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 105991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:50:03 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Fo3g16401 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:50:03 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB0042FTB3Q1@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:45:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:45:51 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <39ff5f39f068.39f06839ff5f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > I love apple pie (don't need no cranberries), but I haven't tasted > > my granny's cherry pie in so long...someone's gotta do it. My dad's > > jonesin'. I thought I could make one for Christmas dessert. I > see a > > couple places to buy them on the web if all else fails. > > Trader Joe's always has them. I've never been to TJs although there's one in Danbury and one somewhere in lower Westchester County. I'll check a few more local places first. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FpZBp012561 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:51:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204677@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:50:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:50:28 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FoSg16542 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:50:28 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB002XRT9D4Q@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:44:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:44:30 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3a5bd239fe64.39fe643a5bd2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Use canned cherry pie filling and change seasonings > and consistency to your taste. With really good > crust, no one will know the difference. I've tried > it, it works! It will not fool my father. He has a very specific taste in mind, as do I, and it really doesn't consist of any . It's cherries, sugar, tapioca and almond extract, if I'm not mistaken. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:54:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FsdBp012616 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:54:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020468C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:53:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:53:32 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FrVg17220 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:53:31 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3FrQOb8446118 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:53:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:53:26 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <002301c3b9aa$59bad060$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Message-ID: References: <002301c3b9aa$59bad060$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alec: > Comcast rocks!! They gave us bad service, so they gave us a month's credit. This sounds like the inverse (orthoganal?) of the complaint about the restaurant with bad food. "And small portions, too!" -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:56:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FuJBp012643 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:56:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6713A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:55:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:55:12 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FtCg17651 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:55:12 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 36230179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:55:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE0754.1000800@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:55:00 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation References: <35b1be355cc4.355cc435b1be@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <35b1be355cc4.355cc435b1be@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >But I don't want cherry pie filling. I want pitted sour cherries so I can make a cherry pie like my granny's. > >Marie > > I think that I have seen them at Trader Joe's. I just checked their online "Fearless Flyer" http://www.traderjoes.com/fearless/index.asp and don't see them, though. However, they do have peanut butter and molasses flavored dog biscuits. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 09:58:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3FwTBp012686 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:58:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002046B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:57:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 106704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:57:22 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3FvMg18209 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:57:22 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:57:16 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:57:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:45 AM > I frankly find tatting almost as bad as crosstitch. Bobbin > lace is much > easier and more fun. You have a slew of bobbins you have to Holly is self-taught when it comes to cross-stitch. Another related talent is to look at the suggested color scheme and alter it so not only do the colors look better together, but if her final product is seen with another, it looks more as though it was a unique product - self-created from scratch. When we go downtown for the State Fair, her primary attraction[1] is to go to the Fine Arts building which has all of the handiwork on display. I've tried to convince her to enter her work (based upon the comparison) but she's afraid something will happen to it and doesn't want to lose the time investment. The first time my mother & grandmother saw her work, I'd forgotten to forewarn her about what they'd do: flip it over. They were raised with the philosophy that the back should be as clean & orderly as the front. Although they praised her work, she wasn't sure if they were just being polite. I've tried to do it but I can't keep the tension in my stitches consistently even. Aside from keeping a stash of books I hadn't read, my mom relied on teaching us to knit and crochet, play bridge and canasta, etc. for the times we were in quarantine at home with childhood diseases or snow days. If I were a castaway with yarn & needles I could probably relearn some elements of knitting & crochet but I cannot remember for the life of me how to play bridge or canasta. [1] my primary attraction is to hop on a tractor driven tram and ride around for several hours with a large bottle of water & watch the people. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:04:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3G4jBp012792 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:04:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67185@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:03:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:03:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3G3Sg19587 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:03:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002046B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:03:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031603.hB3G3Sg19587@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:03:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:36:56 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:25 PM > >> Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >> >> >>I am very, very seriously inclined toward it. I would >> still have Sunday >> >>to contend with banquet chores. I won't have time on >> Monday since I'm >> > >> > And if everything doesn't get done, it just doesn't get >> done. You don't >> > want to have to do this job again next year, do you? If >> not, then - do not >> > do a perfect job. >> >> Being VP is a one-year job. I will be Pres next year. > >Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? Probably very like. Are you a Mason? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:05:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3G5GBp012796 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:05:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67174@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 107254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:04:09 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3G49g19709 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:04:09 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB3G46EH018971 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:04:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:04:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland wrote: > > > And we are flying into Phoenix this > > Monday Dec 8. > > Why are you flying into Phoenix? Dec. 8 is a good date. I can't > remember why now exactly, but it rings bells in my head as being good. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We are going to visit Gene's brother . . also several other friends who live there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:17:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GHcBp013026 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:17:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A672C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:16:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:16:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GGUg25606 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:16:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3GFnDS023493 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:15:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:16:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1291261017.20031203101632@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77888@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77888@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? A lot of organizations require a 3-year commitment. I'm VP of my professional organization this year, and it's the same deal: 1st year VP, 2nd year Pres, 3rd year director. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:19:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GJLBp013054 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A672C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:14 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GIEg26033 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:14 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:20:29 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-123-62.nb.no [158.39.123.62]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2P2VL; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:20:22 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031203171713.02836590@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:18:02 +0100 Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <34aaa834db8d.34db8d34aaa8@optonline.net> References: <34aaa834db8d.34db8d34aaa8@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 11:16 02.12.2003 -0500 skrev Marie Ascher: >> We got enough of a dusting to be a surprise to wake up to and a >> little slippery on the stairs. Laszlo's first snow -- he seemed to >> like it. He rain. >> >> Marie > >Actually, now it's snowing ! And I am just south of the Arctic circle - there is a storm warning for tomorrow but I am not going back to Oslo until Friday. Espen - from Mo i Rana From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:19:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GJeBp013060 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A672DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GIWg26150 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3GHqDS025712 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:17:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:18:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9910437424.20031203101835@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > I never went back and read the fine print, but CostCo and Sam's Club both > renew the cards annually, adding the fee to your next bill. Most of what I > use CostCo for is the discounted gas. Regular-priced Walmart gas is the same price as Costco gas here. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GJeBq013060 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A672DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GIXg26151 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GIVeO008810 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:18:31 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GIUa2008786; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:18:31 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081328.03aa9e38@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:13:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <20031202220812.21849.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105304.00b9e580@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:08 PM 12/2/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty Clark wrote: > > I'm working on my new reputation. > > >Sketch in the details - are you leaning toward >sweetness and light, or something more sinister than >BB? Will you consider requests? This turn of events >has huge potential. Well, I don't do sweetness and light. I'd have to slap myself. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:20:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GKWBp013067 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:20:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A672E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:19:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:19:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GJPg26347 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:19:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GJM2f007283 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:19:23 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GJLJC007243; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:19:22 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081413.00ba0dc8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:14:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCD2C64.5080501@maynor.net> References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:20 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>>> Thickness. The turkey, stuffing, and cranberry make for a >>>>heavy sandwich -- you need a bread that can hold it. >>> >>>That is how I had interpreted what you wrote. So now I need to >>>find out >>>what Marie meant by . >> >>Betty said she likes breads, which I interpret as either >>dense or crusty. But most of my turkey sandwich eating has always been on >>floppier loaf breads (that's how I was raised), and with good results. >>And toast is a fine thing too. I'm sure more breads are >>fine too, but not necessary. Just don't pile it too high. > >It was Rita. I don't know that Betty has discussed this matter. I >forgot to notice in the cafeteria today whether there was turkey and >dressing. I think there wasn't, but I didn't really pause at that area. > I went on to another area that had a Chinese chicken-rice dish that >was good. I was feeling especially distracted at the moment, having >just been in the cafeteria office talking about ARF-banquet stuff with >the Dining Services scheduler, and worrying about where to find a proper >chair for Santa Claus. Screw Santa. Let him stand. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GL3Bp013072 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:21:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A672F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 110910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:19:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GJog26392 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3GJ9DS027039 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:19:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1828863643.20031203101952@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <39ff5f39f068.39f06839ff5f@optonline.net> References: <39ff5f39f068.39f06839ff5f@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > I've never been to TJs although there's one in Danbury and one > somewhere in lower Westchester County. I'll check a few more local > places first. Well, I'd call them first, just to make sure. But in general, you are in for a treat. Especially at this time of year. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GLiBp013079 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:21:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A672F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GKbg26635 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3GKTrm029595 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:20:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:20:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <231810271.20031203102032@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation In-Reply-To: <3FCE0754.1000800@bc.edu> References: <35b1be355cc4.355cc435b1be@optonline.net> <3FCE0754.1000800@bc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Rita Leonard wrote: > Marie Ascher wrote: >>But I don't want cherry pie filling. I want pitted sour cherries so I can make a cherry pie like my granny's. >> >>Marie >> >> > I think that I have seen them at Trader Joe's. In the jar. They are Very Good. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GMOBp013095 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:22:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A672FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:21:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 109397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:21:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GAtg23143 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:10:55 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3G9m61022413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:09:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:10:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I >was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. >(as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory >work as well) I also would not learn to type. No one ever suggested that I learn to wait tables or use a cash register. I had to develop a fast hunt and peck system on the tyewriter later. I have never learned how to change a tire. I figure that if I don't know how, I will never have to do it. (But I can change a water pump on certain old vehicles.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:22:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GMgBp013105 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:22:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A672EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:21:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:21:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GLYg26828 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:21:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GLVeO012821 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:21:31 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GLUa2012799; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:21:31 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081607.00b9aea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:16:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: happy christmas to me In-Reply-To: <3FCDCED4.5030609@swbell.net> References: <3FCD4702.1050808@swbell.net> <3FCD4AA1.3040707@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:53 AM 12/3/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>>Got a new garbage disposal, too. Ana put quarters down the >>>old one a couple of years ago and we never got around to >>>fixing it. >> >> >>How are you liking the garbage disposal after a couple of years without >>one? I had one in my previous house (after my kitchen remodeling) and >>sorely missed it when I moved into this house, but after living here for >>over two years, I'm totally used to not having one. Not having one >>feels . > > > I haven't used the new one yet. I find I adjust to having or >not having a disposal and/or dishwasher pretty easily. >They're nice to have, though. We don't have a hot water heater. Life is hard. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:23:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GNaBp013111 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:23:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204813@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:22:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:22:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GMTg27115 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:22:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GMSeO014437 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:22:28 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3GMRa2014421; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:22:27 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081706.00b88fd8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:17:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <20031203121244.GA7532@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:12 PM 12/3/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >= >= I'm sick of this f'ing banquet! Retired life ain't easy. >= --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > >Quityerbitchin. You asked for it. You tell her, Steph! I thought you were learning to just say NO. Next year as President you can delegate. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:24:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GOqBp013117 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:24:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67332@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 111533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:23:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GNjg27610 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:23:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3GNarm002719 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:23:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:23:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1378577174.20031203102339@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: happy christmas to me In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081607.00b9aea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FCD4702.1050808@swbell.net> <3FCD4AA1.3040707@maynor.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081607.00b9aea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > We don't have a hot water heater. Life is hard. And cold. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:42:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GgIBp013303 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:42:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A673C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:41:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 113239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:41:11 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GfAg31341 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:41:10 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB00AUGVLMG7@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:35:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:35:03 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3b445d3b8eb9.3b8eb93b445d@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Well, then. There you have it. Is it time for a Wordsler NYC ftf? > It's been a while. > > > > This gathering is getting big for The Red Cat, but that is > probably OK > if we start early. They open at 5. > > /Jim > > >Marie We!? Are you saying?...are we actually going to get to dine with a VIP? I say we shoot for Saturday Dec 28 at 5 PM...any objections? (Are they open at 5 on Saturdays too?) Who would be in? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:53:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Gr4Bp013487 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:53:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6744E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:51:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:51:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Gpug01530 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:51:56 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a1.41762e14 (4116) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:51:42 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:51:42 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/3/2003 9:43:50 AM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << almost as if they were to take a sitcom running at twenty-three minutes first run and chopping it to ten minutes for syndication. (then again, it's horrible to watch something[1] in syndication e.g., M*A*S*H, Seinfeld; watch it in syndication, and know where they chopped it to fit the time allotted) >> Or, with a show such as WKRP, knowing where they changed things in syndication. Due to legalities, music was changed, episodes were cut to take music out, a whole episode which revolved around "Hold Me Closer, Tiny Dancer" was changed to eliminate every mention of the song (it's as if they took an episode of Star Trek and totally eliminated Dr. McCoy). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3GtbBp013517 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:55:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 114969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:54:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3GsUg02204 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:54:30 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:54:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:55 AM > Saying "I play bridge" would have been posting rich where I grew up - > but in fact, this list reminds me of my early lifeplan: (forewarning: today is "methadone day") Someone asked about Warren Buffet within the previous month or so - hearing bridge reminded me of that. He & William Henry Gates III (aka "Billy the Kid" (in his early days) aka Bill Gates) play online frequently and at least once a month one flies to the other one's location for them to play together. I've not seen anything state who the other two players are. Mr. Gates apparently tried to take up golf some time ago but was considered to be a failure at best. I don't know if he's continued to play (or learn). Considering they have little in common (aside from wealth) they are very good friends. Warren Buffet (a quick gloss over): native of Omaha. I did some contract work there about five years ago and ran into a lot of people who are very happy with his talents. He started young with various forms of gathering funds (e.g., pop bottles, paper route, etc.) and would bootstrap himself up from one form of currency/wealth to another. Eventually, he was an economics professor (the type who wears a bow tie) and decided to put his philosophies into action. Starting with a spare bedroom, he started putting together a stock portfolio under the name Berkshire Hathaway[1] (late 60s or early 70s, I think). Many people in Omaha who knew him would do practically anything to scrape together $5k or $10 to invest. These folks are fabulously wealthy now but you wouldn't know it to talk to them. They aren't Buffet ($36B) or Gates ($46B) rich, but plenty rich enough to take their minds off of problems for the rest of their lives. I don't have his mentor's name handy, but Warren was a big fan of his - taking what he learned, then seemingly developing those lessons to many more degrees beyond - almost exponentially. Most of Buffet's wealth is not liquid (cash) - it's pretty much all stock. His feeling is stock should be acquired & held, not cashed in. He's the single-largest holder of Coke stock, etc. etc. During the Big Bang of the Internet and Internet-related technologies of the mid-to-late 90s, he was seen as a Scrooge because he felt tech stocks were severely overrated and would not sustain themselves long-term. Was he right or did his prediction start the dominoes falling? Obviously the former, but... Unlike Gates[2], he still does not invest much in tech stocks although has started doing some since the bubble burst. Not too long ago, Berkshire purchased a large, controlling share of Level3. Paradoxically, they unloaded it. Although it likely has nothing to do with it, Level3 is a very large Internet backbone. They are also one of the largest spam harbors online. Once a spammer connects as a customer, it's nearly impossible to get them booted. I read in one of the financial newspapers (so it had to be either Investor's Business Daily or Wall Street Journal) [that] he has become a financial consiegliere with many of the larger financial names joining him at his favorite steakhouse along with a cherry coke. He still drives his own car, has the house he's owned for 30+ years, etc. etc. etc. When asked why these people visit him, his response was, "Because I keep my mouth shut regarding what we talk about." He's started making suggestions for change against things which are "just because that's the way it's always been done". Included: when employees are granted company stock, it should appear on the books as an expense, rather ignoring it; also, stop providing financial estimates. They only cause the suits to make up numbers they think they might be able to make, make stockholders nervous once they hear the company will either lose, or make a profit, but fall short of the estimates. Japan requires estimates to be publicized. The companies which he belongs to the BOD have either dropped reported earnings or are preparing to. Others which have no connections to him are strongly considering dropping as well. Doing so could probably extend the [true, health of] lifespan of the suits who sweat out the quarterly earnings or have found ways to misrepresent them by cheating which days products are officially shipping (and thus, are on the books). I can probably dredge up some more if I had to. [1] If you are thinking, "Hey! Berkshire Hathaway sounds like a great stock!" it is. I haven't looked recently, but it's been a long, long time since I've seen the stock less than $35k/share. I've also seen it as high as $65k/stock. Not for the feint of heart. [2] Mr. Gates has an investment manager who has free reign to do as he sees fit with two exceptions: technology and bio/lifesciences. The technology issue is because of potential competition and infringement issues. In that case, the manager must check with the Microsoft legal staff to ensure they don't have an investment in, a potential investment in, or a company they shouldn't have an investment in. He (at last word) sells 88k shares of Microsoft per day and reinvests it. Early on, he'd turned $400M into $12B. That's an incredible feat. The bio/lifesciences is a hands-off issue for his investment manager because Mr. Gates sees that as something he likes to research and play with, so he saves that for himself. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 10:58:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Gw9Bp013550 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:58:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020494D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:57:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 115195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:57:02 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Gv2g02714 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:57:02 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.166.2921cdaf (24895) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:56:53 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <166.2921cdaf.2cff6fd4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:56:52 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/3/2003 10:29:18 AM Central Standard Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << Screw Santa. Let him stand. >> Are you going to make a man that old stand? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3H1JBp013636 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:01:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002049DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 116217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3H02g03567 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3H01W1025871 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:00:01 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3H00Wq025817; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:00:01 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081910.00ba0988@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:55:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:55 AM 12/3/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:38:54 -0600, Natalie Maynor >wrote: > > >Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > >> I have three great deficiencies - I cannot knit, cannot crochet, cannot > >> play bridge. > > > >How did you manage to make it to adulthood? But then you are using > >present tense. I have no memory of how to knit or crochet, so I could > >say that I cannot do them. I do remember a wee bit more about playing > >bridge, though it is also something I have not done in years -- except > >that I used to play bridge on my computer at times -- I wonder what > >happened to that bridge game -- hadn't thought about it in a long time. > > All three of those, however, were assumed to be universal in my > >growing-up years. > >Saying "I play bridge" would have been posting rich where I grew up - >but in fact, this list reminds me of my early lifeplan: > >I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I >was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. >(as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory >work as well) > >"knit, crochet, and play bridge" sounds to me like the pastimes I >envisioned for '50s suburban wives - along with making little >sandwiches for tea. It's what old people do. Retired little old ladies sitting around drinking tea and gossiping. Ladies Aid? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:01:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3H1tBp013643 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:01:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 116306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3H0lg03863 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3H0hrm009139 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:00:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:00:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12210008175.20031203110046@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <166.2921cdaf.2cff6fd4@aol.com> References: <166.2921cdaf.2cff6fd4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 12/3/2003 10:29:18 AM Central Standard Time, > bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: > << > Screw Santa. Let him stand. >>> > Are you going to make a man that old stand? I don't care about that, but I do care about the absence of a lap! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:03:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3H34Bp013662 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:03:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204A28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:01:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 116441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:01:56 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3H1ug04348 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:01:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67557@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:01:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031701.hB3H1ug04348@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:01:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:14:42 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 06:20 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> worrying about where to find a proper >>chair for Santa Claus. > >Screw Santa. Let him stand. > >Betty Bad Betty, I hope there's a missing "or" in that directive! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HA3Bp013748 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:10:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A675A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:08:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:08:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3H8tg06264 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:08:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204A6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:08:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:08:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:10:54 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I >>was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. >>(as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory >>work as well) > >I also would not learn to type. No one ever suggested that I learn to wait >tables or use a cash register. I had to develop a fast hunt and peck >system on the tyewriter later. > >I have never learned how to change a tire. I figure that if I don't know >how, I will never have to do it. (But I can change a water pump on certain >old vehicles.) > >Bethany Are you kidding me? Change a tire? My dad split up the jobs involved in changing tires and taught us to do them all when I was abt 7 or so (making the other participants 5,3,1, -1, and -2. Hmmm. Ok, before I was 10, certainly!) Anyway, little. Why wouldn't you want to know that! It's tiresome waiting for someone else to come along to do something that only requires getting dirty and swearing a lot to get you on your way! (My dad didn't swear; I had to take lessons from a truck driver to learn that part. Nobody's perfect!) But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it will become necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up now. If I decided never to learn Morse Code, Shorthand, or counting to 5 in Urdu, where would I be now? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:12:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HCOBp013783 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:12:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A675C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:11:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:11:16 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HBGg07178 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:11:16 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3HBBOb4431908 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:11:12 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:11:11 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't have his mentor's name handy, but Warren was a big fan of his - Benjamin Graham. _The Intelligent Investor_ is as worth reading today as when he wrote it 50 years ago. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:14:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HEJBp013804 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:14:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A675E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:13:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:13:11 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HDBg07782 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:13:11 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3HD6Ob8446142 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:13:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:13:06 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: > requires getting dirty and swearing a lot to get you on your way! (My dad "Oh fudge." -- not Ralphie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HFDBp013838 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:15:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204AA6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:14:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 117712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:14:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HDwg07929 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:13:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3HDtW1016807 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:13:55 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3HDsWq016788; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:13:54 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203090855.00ba5de0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:09:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200312031701.hB3H1ug04348@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:01 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:14:42 -0800, Betty Clark >wrote: > > >At 06:20 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> worrying about where to find a proper > >>chair for Santa Claus. > > > >Screw Santa. Let him stand. > > > >Betty > >Bad Betty, I hope there's a missing "or" in that directive! >clo Or he could sit on his cotton balls? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:20:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HKjBp013924 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204ACC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:19:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:19:38 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HJag08796 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:19:36 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB006RLXGOJP@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:15:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:15:24 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty > At 06:25 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > >>I do like denser bread usually but sometimes, like in potato chip > >>sandwiches, white bread rules! > > > >Is this the kind of geographical thing Boo was alluding to? Are > >potato-chip sandwiches a California thing? > > I found the recipe in my White Trash Cookbook. What's on a potato chip sandwich besides chips? I like potato chips in combination with dill pickles in general. And sometimes I used to put chips into my hoagies... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:21:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HLwBp013970 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:21:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6761E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:20:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:20:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HKpg09081 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:20:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3HK9DS002375 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <243140842.20031203112052@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it will become > necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up now. IME, it's when I swear that I will absolutely never learn to do a thing that it will become necessary shortly. I swore I would never learn Japanese about 18 months before I was on a plane to Osaka. But I don't know how to change a tire, either. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:27:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HRoBp014034 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:27:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67631@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:26:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:26:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HQgg10145 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:26:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3HQeeO007439 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:26:40 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3HQca2007381; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:26:39 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:21:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Are you kidding me? Change a tire? My dad split up the jobs involved in >changing tires and taught us to do them all when I was abt 7 or so (making >the other participants 5,3,1, -1, and -2. Hmmm. Ok, before I was 10, >certainly!) Anyway, little. Why wouldn't you want to know that! It's >tiresome waiting for someone else to come along to do something that only >requires getting dirty and swearing a lot to get you on your way! (My dad >didn't swear; I had to take lessons from a truck driver to learn that part. >Nobody's perfect!) > >But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it will become >necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up now. If I >decided never to learn Morse Code, Shorthand, or counting to 5 in Urdu, >where would I be now? > >clo Changing tires was part of our driver's ed. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:29:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HTWBp014047 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:29:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:28:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 118897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:28:25 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HSPg10471 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:28:25 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB00AHZXR3RA@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:21:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:21:33 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3bf94e3bd050.3bd0503bf94e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor > Marie Ascher wrote: > > Betty said she likes breads, > > It was Rita. No. It was Betty. Rita also apparently likes substantial breads, but Betty specifically said . Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:31:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HVaBp014089 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:31:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204B26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:30:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:30:29 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HUSg11114 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:30:28 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AF1FA2B8F3; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9D2B8EA for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it will become > necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up now. If I > decided never to learn Morse Code, Shorthand, or counting to 5 in Urdu, Please count to 5 in Urdu. TIA Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HX2Bp014104 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:33:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6768F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:31:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:31:54 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HVsg11403 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:31:54 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 07D942B90D; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0004A2B901 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:31:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Changing tires was part of our driver's ed. I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing since 1942 . . . Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:39:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HdZBp014162 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:39:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204B6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:38:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:38:27 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HcRg12514 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:38:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A676C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:38:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031738.hB3HcRg12514@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:38:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:20:52 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it will become >> necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up now. > >IME, it's when I swear that I will absolutely never learn to do a >thing that it will become necessary shortly. I swore I would never >learn Japanese about 18 months before I was on a plane to Osaka. > >But I don't know how to change a tire, either. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism It's not as though there is much to learn. For real, even if you never change tires, it's good to keep something to kneel on (an old tablecloth, a tarp, a piece of cardboard) and a GOOD tire iron (not the chintzy ones that come with the car) in the trunk for any Good Samaritan who helps. Those two things make tire changing a hell of a lot less onerous. Also, if you think you have a flat and can choose a hard level surface to get out and check, that's much easier to change a tire on than a soft surface the jack will sink into. If you ever have to change one,no way out, reach for the car manual first. It will show pictures of the location of the jack, which is usually the most arcane element of the rite, and how to place and raise the jack. Most cars nowadays have little notches or something in the location you are supposed to put the jack, and then it's just common sense: don't put your head under a jacked up car in case it slips off the jack; use the parking brake; loosen the nuts before you lift the wheel off the ground so you don't push the car off the jack, tighten the nuts thoroughly so the wheel doesn't fall all, and so on. Also, if the lugnuts are too tight, standing on the tire iron and jumping helps. Righty-tighty; lefty-loosey! All the rest is about style (loosen and tighten the nuts in alternating order (1-3-5-2-4) so that one side isn't loose while the other is tight, eg) or historic - eg, back when cars rolled if not parked carefully on the level, it was important to put a brick behind one of the wheels on the ground. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:40:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HeLBp014179 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:40:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A676BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:13 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HdDg12690 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A676CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031739.hB3HdDg12690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it will become >> necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up now. If I >> decided never to learn Morse Code, Shorthand, or counting to 5 in Urdu, > >Please count to 5 in Urdu. > >TIA >Ann Ek Doe Teen Char Panch. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:40:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HeTBp014184 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:40:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00204B46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:21 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HdLg12727 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:39:21 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPB00A36YBABK@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:33:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:33:39 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Two things To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <39cc8c39c2a1.39c2a139cc8c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For some reason a couple of days ago I lost the ability to compose messages or reply from this account. But two things stick in my head as things that I would have replied to: Clyde: The penguin's name was Opus, not Otis. and Natalie has suggested in the past (several times, several years apart) that there has been some discussion and controversy re the meat status of pepperoni on words-l. But there is nothing in the archives that appears to the original dispute or even conversation. Which leads me to believe that this was either a lunch table conversation or created in Natalie's head, but that Natalie is the only one on words-l who isn't sure that pepperoni is meat. In other words, Natalie, let it here be decided that yes, pepperoni is meat. Case closed. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HkFBp014265 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:46:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A676E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Hj7g13755 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3Hj26X029529 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:45:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:45:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5010033858.20031203114506@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031739.hB3HdDg12690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031739.hB3HdDg12690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Ek Doe Teen Char Panch. I am pleased as punch that you remembered! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:47:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Hl6Bp014283 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:47:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A676FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:58 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3Hjwg13865 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 19305 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 17:45:51 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-12.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 17:45:51 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17B0C83 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:51 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070473551!886132 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:45:52 -0500 Message-ID: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <39cc8c39c2a1.39c2a139cc8c@optonline.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:34 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Two things > > >For some reason a couple of days ago I lost the ability to >compose messages or reply from this account. But two things >stick in my head as things that I would have replied to: > >Clyde: The penguin's name was Opus, not Otis. > >and > >Natalie has suggested in the past (several times, several >years apart) that there has been some discussion and >controversy re the meat status of pepperoni on words-l. But >there is nothing in the archives that appears to the original >dispute or even conversation. Which leads me to believe that >this was either a lunch table conversation or created in >Natalie's head, but that Natalie is the only one on words-l >who isn't sure that pepperoni is meat. In other words, >Natalie, let it here be decided that yes, pepperoni is meat. >Case closed. > >Marie > Be nice or she will leave us again. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:48:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Hm0Bp014293 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:48:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67711@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:46:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:46:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Hkqg14119 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:46:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3Hkm6X001121 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:46:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:46:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: English Language Discussion Group >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >>Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:34 PM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Two things >> >> >>For some reason a couple of days ago I lost the ability to >>compose messages or reply from this account. But two things >>stick in my head as things that I would have replied to: >> >>Clyde: The penguin's name was Opus, not Otis. >> >>and >> >>Natalie has suggested in the past (several times, several >>years apart) that there has been some discussion and >>controversy re the meat status of pepperoni on words-l. But >>there is nothing in the archives that appears to the original >>dispute or even conversation. Which leads me to believe that >>this was either a lunch table conversation or created in >>Natalie's head, but that Natalie is the only one on words-l >>who isn't sure that pepperoni is meat. In other words, >>Natalie, let it here be decided that yes, pepperoni is meat. >>Case closed. >> >>Marie >> > Be nice or she will leave us again. Also... The archives don't go back to 1991. I miss Akio. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 11:51:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3HpnBp014333 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:51:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6774A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HoZg15254 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3HnqDS002568 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:49:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:50:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3710129170.20031203115035@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312031738.hB3HcRg12514@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031738.hB3HcRg12514@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It's not as though there is much to learn. Right--and it's not like I couldn't learn. I just never have. In fact, I don't think the jack is in my car, I think it's in the garage. I should put it back in the car. > For real, even if you never change tires, it's good to keep something to > kneel on (an old tablecloth, a tarp, a piece of cardboard) and a GOOD tire > iron (not the chintzy ones that come with the car) in the trunk for any > Good Samaritan who helps. I always keep a tarp in my car. The tire iron that came with my car is good enough that that's what the last person who changed my car used. > If you ever have to change one,no way out, reach for the car manual first. That was my plan. But really, that's why I have AAA. > All the rest is about style (loosen and tighten the nuts in > alternating order (1-3-5-2-4) so that one side isn't loose while the other > is tight, eg) or historic - eg, back when cars rolled if not parked > carefully on the level, it was important to put a brick behind one of the > wheels on the ground. Ah, thanks for the clues. 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News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:00:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3I0ZBp014449 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:00:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6777E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:59:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:59:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3HxRg16557 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:59:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204C1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:59:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031759.hB3HxRg16557@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:59:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:45:06 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Ek Doe Teen Char Panch. > >I am pleased as punch that you remembered! > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism y Yo tambien! clo mera nam Karalin he From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3I3mBp014512 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:03:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6778C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3I2eg17133 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3I2UOb6979586 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:02:32 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:02:30 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: ion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > Also... The archives don't go back to 1991. Ah, but Google goes back to at least 13-Oct-1996. It's not a WORDS-L discussion of the nature of pepperoni, but appears to indicate that her confusion about the animal origins of pepperoni sprouted up after that. I love pizza, but I prefer it without dead pig. Actually I do eat pepperoni pizza from time to time, now that I think about it. Somehow that doesn't offend my tastebuds the way sausage pizza does. The only fleshly stuff I don't mind on pizza is pepperoni or shrimp. Or squid, but the only time I've had squid pizza was in Thailand. My favorite pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, olive (green or black). -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:12:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3ICXBp014568 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:12:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A677F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3IBPg18602 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3IBF6X023006 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:11:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:11:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > I love pizza, but I prefer it without dead pig. Actually I do eat > pepperoni pizza from time to time, now that I think about it. Somehow > that doesn't offend my tastebuds the way sausage pizza does. Italian or breakfast? Plain pork sausage balls suck. > The only fleshly stuff I don't mind on pizza is pepperoni or shrimp. > Or squid, but the only time I've had squid pizza was in Thailand. I had wonderful seafood pizza at the place across the side street from Sally's in New Haven. Mussels, shrimp, and squid. Yum! Does N.O. have a Little Italy. Bet they have squid pizza somewhere there... Squid is good food. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:19:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3IJiBp014651 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:19:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6784D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:18:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:18:36 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3IIag20636 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:18:36 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3IIUOb4341988 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:18:31 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:18:30 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: Yabbut I was quoting Natalie. Guess I screwed that up. > Does N.O. have a Little Italy. Not in the sense of a geographical area, like a Chinatown, at least not anymore. But there _is_ a gigantic Italian influence in New Orleans. St. Joseph's Day is as big a deal as St. Patrick's Day. Bigger, really. Italians and Sicilians everywhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:21:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3ILQBp014678 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:21:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6785E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:20:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:20:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3IKIg20958 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:20:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204CFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:20:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:20:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:02:30 -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: >Karen: >> Also... The archives don't go back to 1991. > >Ah, but Google goes back to at least 13-Oct-1996. > >It's not a WORDS-L discussion of the nature of >pepperoni, but appears to indicate that her >confusion about the animal origins of pepperoni >sprouted up after that. > > >I love pizza, but I prefer it without dead pig. Actually I do eat >pepperoni pizza from time to time, now that I think about it. Somehow >that doesn't offend my tastebuds the way sausage pizza does. The only >fleshly stuff I don't mind on pizza is pepperoni or shrimp. Or squid, >but the only time I've had squid pizza was in Thailand. My favorite >pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, olive (green or black). > >-- >Richard I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:29:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3IT1Bp014784 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:29:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A678A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3IRrg22796 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 36244244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:27:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE2B07.4080305@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:27:19 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. > >clo > > I'll bet that Clyde does. For me, a pizza is a home prepared "fast food". Boboli works just fine for that. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:37:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Ib8Bp014902 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:37:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A678C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:36:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:36:00 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Ia0g24315 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:36:00 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3IZtOb589904 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:35:55 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:35:55 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. Raises hand. I like boboli, too, though it's a little more expensive than I'd prefer. -- Richard, changes tires, too From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:43:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3IhEBp014973 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:43:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00204D68@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:06 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3Ig6g25685 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:06 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:42:03 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:41:32 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Two things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB3IhEBp014973 I have made my own crust from scratch (usually only when I want some variation on traditional crust), but usually I buy the little baggies of pizza dough if I'm doing a whole pizza or just use english mmmuffins if i'm doing a BrP >>> rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU 12/03/03 01:35PM >>> clo: > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. Raises hand. I like boboli, too, though it's a little more expensive than I'd prefer. -- Richard, changes tires, too From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:43:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3IhlBp014977 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:43:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6790E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:39 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Igcg25727 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:39 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3IgYOb4874402 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:42:34 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:42:33 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.80455 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > Does N.O. have a Little Italy. That reminds me; Neal and I had dinner last night at Fiorella's. Neal sez: "Hi everybody!" -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3InKBp015048 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67921@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3ImCg26789 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3Im26X025272 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:48:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:48:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1336271222.20031203124805@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > Yabbut I was quoting Natalie. Guess I screwed that up. Oh! I wondered why I didn't know that you've been to Thailand. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:50:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Io6Bp015054 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6793E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Imwg26871 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3ImGDS027911 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:48:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9810654653.20031203124900@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:51:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3IpRBp015103 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:51:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204DCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:50:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:50:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Io8g27143 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:50:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3Inh6X027073 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1229206185.20031203124947@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen: >> Does N.O. have a Little Italy. > That reminds me; Neal and I had dinner > last night at Fiorella's. > Neal sez: "Hi everybody!" Hi, Neal. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 12:58:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Iw9Bp015258 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:58:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A679D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:57:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:57:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Iv1g28988 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:57:01 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204E5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:57:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031857.hB3Iv1g28988@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:57:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:00 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. > >I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism My bread machine is called a fork. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:05:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3J5SBp015383 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:05:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67A18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:04:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:04:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3J4Jg30514 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:04:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3J456X010733 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:04:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:04:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <613789292.20031203130409@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312031857.hB3Iv1g28988@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031857.hB3Iv1g28988@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:00 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >>> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. >> >>I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > My bread machine is called a fork. What an odd name! You'd think you'd get it confused with, well, a fork! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:30:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JUGBp015760 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:30:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67AF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:29:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:29:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JT7g02990 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:29:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00204FB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:29:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031929.hB3JT7g02990@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:29:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:04:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:00 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>>On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >>>> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. >>> >>>I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. >>> >>>Karen, >>>practicing fierce optimism > >> My bread machine is called a fork. > >What an odd name! You'd think you'd get it confused with, well, a >fork! > LOL!! They look remarkably similar as well! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JY8Bp015826 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:34:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67B0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:33:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:33:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JWxg03832 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:32:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3JWk6X007640 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:32:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:32:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <154602301.20031203133248@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312031929.hB3JT7g02990@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031929.hB3JT7g02990@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:04:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:00 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>>On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>>> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >>>>> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. >>>> >>>>I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. >>>> >>>>Karen, >>>>practicing fierce optimism >> >>> My bread machine is called a fork. >> >>What an odd name! You'd think you'd get it confused with, well, a >>fork! >> > LOL!! > They look remarkably similar as well! How interesting! Tell me, has your fork been to Europe? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:35:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JZMBp015834 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:35:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67B21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:34:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:34:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JODg02318 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:24:13 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3JN661030392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:23:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Automated Interlibrary Loan Notification (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:10:57 -0500 From: UT Interlibrary Services To: dumasb@utk.edu Subject: Automated Interlibrary Loan Notification Dear Bethany Dumas, A request you have placed: TN: 285754 Title: Vessels of Clay Author: Henry J. Donaghy UT Call Number: UT Location: has been cancelled by the Interlibrary Services staff for the following reason: (NOLOCS) No Locations Found. We were not able to locate a record or lending locations for this title. It appears no other libraries as yet have purchased this book and added it to their collections. Sorry. --- Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:38:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JcJBp015867 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:38:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00204FEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:37:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:37:10 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jb9g05111 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:37:09 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB3Jb8kF008532 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:37:08 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB3Jb7jx008530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:37:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:37:07 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = What's on a potato chip sandwich besides chips? = The brits and other colonists eat something they call a chip butty. A french fry sandwich. Maybe some butter, or some ketchup. Try it, it's not bad. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:39:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JdnBp015875 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:39:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:38:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:38:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jceg05390 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:38:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:38:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Betty Clark [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:55 AM > >"knit, crochet, and play bridge" sounds to me like the pastimes I > >envisioned for '50s suburban wives - along with making little > >sandwiches for tea. > > It's what old people do. Retired little old ladies sitting > around drinking > tea and gossiping. Ladies Aid? My mom (63) & teacher friends (current & retired) get together weekly year 'round to play bridge, drink tea, and gossip. She also hears the pros|cons retiring from teaching (she currently has third grade, which out of all of what she's taught - practically everything from K-12 although much of the non third-grade was as a substitute or a semester). Although many finally reach a point where they know it's practical to retire, many do not enjoy retirement, even if they've been out for some time. My mom keeps an eye on how things go throughout the school year, particularly the weeks just before, the Christmas^w Holiday Break, and the end (end of school year + immediate weeks thereafter). So far, she's had a few more "fun" kids every three or four years, but she looks forward to returning late Summer, enjoys learning the chemistry of the class, etc. Her biggest fear is she'll retire and later feel as if she regrets it after-the-fact. She doesn't want a seat reserved at the bridge table for drinking tea and gossiping. I haven, however, pointed out there's substituting (which I did in college during school breaks), tutoring, and with home schooling being a big deal, she could offer to teach segments of certain disciplines for kids whose parents do not feel comfortable teaching those subjects. I taught her a semester of biology night-after-night for a semester at Freshman level (I think I was in 3rd or 4th grade at the time so we had fun together) when her substituting turned into a full schedule: the usual teacher went from ill to deceased. She's since found she can do the same /s outside help. ------------------------ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:42:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Jg9Bp015892 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205012@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jf0g05769 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:40:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:40:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Betty Clark [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:15 AM > Screw Santa. Let him stand. > Betty Is this a new position? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:43:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JhbBp015907 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:43:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67B73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JgSg06128 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3JgCW1026049 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:42:12 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3JgBWq026014; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:42:11 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203113649.00bca738@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:37:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:15 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >From: Betty > > At 06:25 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >>I do like denser bread usually but sometimes, like in potato chip > > >>sandwiches, white bread rules! > > > > > >Is this the kind of geographical thing Boo was alluding to? Are > > >potato-chip sandwiches a California thing? > > > > I found the recipe in my White Trash Cookbook. > >What's on a potato chip sandwich besides chips? Mayo. I don't really eat them. I have put chips on my tuna sandwiches though. Nice crunch. Betty >I like potato chips in combination with dill pickles in general. And >sometimes I used to put chips into my hoagies... > >Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:45:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JjMBp015946 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:45:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67B65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:44:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:44:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JiDg06451 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:44:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3Jgf6X016872 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:44:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:42:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1956299080.20031203134230@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: I love this!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The SI.com article about Croom says: "...no football program in the SEC struggles more than Mississippi State. The name of the town where the school is located pretty much says it all -- Starkville. Sounds like the name of one of the Coen brothers movies." They must know about the linguica situation. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:46:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JkvBp015974 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:46:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67B77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:45:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:45:49 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jjng06774 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:45:49 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3JjmeO005132 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:45:48 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3Jjka2005102; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:45:47 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203113934.00bc1ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:41:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3bf94e3bd050.3bd0503bf94e@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:21 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >From: Natalie Maynor > > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Betty said she likes breads, > > > > It was Rita. > >No. It was Betty. > >Rita also apparently likes substantial breads, but Betty specifically said >. > >Marie Yes, I did. We had monkey bread at Thanksgiving. Yum. Larry made some last night which was just as good and much cheaper than what he bought at Whole Food store. A little sweet. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:48:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Jm9Bp015985 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67B90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jl0g06947 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:47:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3JkiW1002093 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:46:44 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3JkhWq002043; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:46:43 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203114138.00bba9f8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:42:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 AM 12/3/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > Changing tires was part of our driver's ed. > >I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing >since 1942 . . . > >Ann Better jacks. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:48:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JmeBp015998 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:48:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67B80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:47:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:47:32 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JlVg07053 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:47:31 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3JlQOb5439660 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:47:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:47:26 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, steph wrote: > The brits and other colonists eat something they call a chip > butty. A french fry sandwich. Maybe some butter, or some > ketchup. Try it, it's not bad. "Not bad", is as far as you'll go? You are mad, woman. MAD! A potato po' boy (with gravy), WHOA NELLY! One of the highlights of JazzFest os the cochon du lait po' boy -- half french fries, half sucking pig. -- Richard, shit WHY is Wednesday a fast day?!?!?!? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:51:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Jp0Bp016053 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:51:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020501F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:49:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jnpg07566 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:49:51 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:49:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:49:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:43 PM > The SI.com article about Croom says: "...no football program in the > SEC struggles more than Mississippi State. The name of the town where > the school is located pretty much says it all -- Starkville. Sounds > like the name of one of the Coen brothers movies." > > They must know about the linguica situation. There was a lot of publicity in the athletic sectors recently because Mississippi State hired an African American coach. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JpdBp016068 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:51:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67BBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:50:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:50:20 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3JoKg07769 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:50:20 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:50:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:50:01 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Two things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB3JpdBp016068 and did you find it in the road? BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/03/03 02:32PM >>> How interesting! Tell me, has your fork been to Europe? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JsUBp016095 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:54:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67BDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:22 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3JrMg08735 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:22 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: mene tekel parsin [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:11 PM > > I don't have his mentor's name handy, but Warren was a big > fan of his - > > Benjamin Graham. > > _The Intelligent Investor_ is as worth reading > today as when he wrote it 50 years ago. Now you can see why I can only index data these days instead of all of the details. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:54:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3JsvBp016102 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:54:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67BC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jrng08807 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00205072@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031953.hB3Jrng08807@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:42:03 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 09:31 AM 12/3/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >> > Changing tires was part of our driver's ed. >> >>I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing >>since 1942 . . . >> >>Ann > >Better jacks. > >Betty I disagree. Actually, jacks have devolved into lightweight nuisances. The big old heavy ratcheting kind were standard across vehicles, which meant you could change your neighbor's tire as easily as your own. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:56:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Ju1Bp016112 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:56:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67BDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jsqg08959 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:52 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:47 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: [spam] Re: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:32 PM > > Was Joe Namath in his youth when he took up needlecrafts? > > I have no idea. IIRC, he wasn't associated with needlecrafts but was known to have worn panty hose to help keep his legs warm during a football game. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 13:56:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Ju3Bp016115 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:56:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67BE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jstg08971 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020504B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312031954.hB3Jstg08971@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:54:54 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:50:01 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >and did you find it in the road? > >BrP > No, the garden - while smelling the roses! >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/03/03 02:32PM >>> > >How interesting! Tell me, has your fork been to Europe? > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism If so, it didn't bring back any presents for me. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:04:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3K4vBp016239 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:04:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67C1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:03:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:03:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Jrng08812 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3Jqg61008414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:52:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203114138.00bba9f8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031203114138.00bba9f8@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Betty Clark wrote: >>I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing >>since 1942 . . . >> >>Ann > >Better jacks. And tires. I still have never needed to change a tire. I have been driving since the early 1950s. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:07:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3K7oBp016271 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:07:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67C4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:06:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:06:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3K6Wg10844 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:06:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3K5eDS015772 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:05:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:06:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <244392764.20031203140618@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I love this!!! In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:43 PM >> The SI.com article about Croom says: "...no football program in the >> SEC struggles more than Mississippi State. The name of the town where >> the school is located pretty much says it all -- Starkville. Sounds >> like the name of one of the Coen brothers movies." >> >> They must know about the linguica situation. > There was a lot of publicity in the athletic sectors recently because > Mississippi State hired an African American coach. That's who Croom is. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KHvBp016432 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:17:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67CA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:48 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KGmg12774 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:48 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPC006BS5M6HK@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:11:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:11:30 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3d30773cf12f.3cf12f3d3077@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. > > I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. Clyde does. And doesn't Karsten? How is good ole Karsten? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KHsBp016431 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:17:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67C99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:46 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KGjg12755 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:45 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:16:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:57 PM > On Monday, December 01, 2003, steph wrote: > > I have Dreamweaver on my work laptop, but I cannot get into it. > > I took an online class through the HP Learning Center that helped. > > > It's too cumbersome for the simple stuff. I just can't find > > quickly enough stuff I want to do now. > > I basically use the view that's half code and half the web page, so > you can see what you're doing. I also like the fact that you see the > whole directory structure you're working in, and you can see the whole > directory structure of the site you're uploading to. I've found that > very useful. > > I don't think it's any more cumbersome than using vi or emacs, and it > has the advantage of directory trees and painless ftp. Another place to look into is MIT's inventory of online courses. When they first started it was only twenty or thirty classes. Now, it's practically everything (as in 500+ courses in 33 disciplines). Slashdot's (August 29, 2003) story (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/29/134223): "David Diamond has written a very readable article at Wired News titled (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/mit_pr.html) "MIT Everyware" that follows up on MIT's OpenCourseWare initiative (previous story: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/30/1647213&tid=146). It turns out that one of the most popular courses has been '6.170 Laboratory in Software Engineering, Fall 2001.' (http://tinyurl.com/lcin) | (http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-170 Laboratory-in-Software-EngineeringFall2001/CourseHome/index.htm) Diamond notes that '[u]ltimately, MIT officials know, OpenCourseWare's success depends on the emergence of online communities to support individual courses.'" (I've found it interesting just to browse some of the available resources) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KIQBp016446 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:18:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67CB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:17:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:17:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KHHg12913 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:17:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB3KHA6X026242 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:17:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:17:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1964546023.20031203141713@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312032011.hB3KB7g11649@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312032011.hB3KB7g11649@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Most of my flats now come from driving near construction or on recently > graded dirt roads (16 miles unplowed one lane and rocky to get in to our > camp, eg). Or like The Road To Maine!!! I loved that trip. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:22:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KM6Bp016517 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:22:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67CDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:20:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:20:57 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KKvg13877 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:20:57 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPC00HZ05TJI6@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:15:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:15:55 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3c038b3c3ce7.3c3ce73c038b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I like boboli, too, though it's a little > more expensive than I'd prefer. I try to collect coupons for them and stock up when they go on sale. They freeze well. Pizza is one of my standard short notice guest appetizers/snack/lunches. Pepperoni also lasts a long time in the fridge. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:22:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KMHBp016521 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:22:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00205103@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:11:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:11:07 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KB7g11649 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:11:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67C6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:11:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312032011.hB3KB7g11649@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:11:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:53:49 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > >>>I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing >>>since 1942 . . . >>> >>>Ann >> >>Better jacks. > >And tires. I still have never needed to change a tire. I have been >driving since the early 1950s. > >Bethany Yes, I agree there. Especially since 40's and early '50s! But also we have become generally more affluent, so that it's been a long time since I changed a tire that wore out before I could afford to replace it. Most of my flats now come from driving near construction or on recently graded dirt roads (16 miles unplowed one lane and rocky to get in to our camp, eg). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:24:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KOjBp016563 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:24:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67CEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:23:36 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KNag14320 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:23:36 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPC00KTF5YY7G@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:19:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:19:08 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3b26393aaed1.3aaed13b2639@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And tires. I still have never needed to change a tire. I have been > driving since the early 1950s. I had a flat tire this year, but a knight in shining armor (actually in a shining white Ford truck) came along and did it for me. I am very glad that he didn't shove me in my trunk. I should learn how to do it myself. I know there's not much to it. I guess the thing I'm a little unclear on is where to position the jack. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:25:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KPpBp016572 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:25:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67CF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:24:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:24:42 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KOgg14453 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:24:42 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPC002MU612PN@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:20:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:20:01 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <37a48a37bf8a.37bf8a37a48a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And tires. I still have never needed to change a tire. I have been > driving since the early 1950s. Well, you never know. I've only owned a car since 2001 and I had a flat already. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:37:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KbQBp016752 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:37:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67D47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:36:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:36:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KQHg14746 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:26:17 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3KP961021829 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:25:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:26:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <37a48a37bf8a.37bf8a37a48a@optonline.net> Message-ID: References: <37a48a37bf8a.37bf8a37a48a@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >Well, you never know. I've only owned a car since 2001 and I had a flat already. But did YOU need to change the tire? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 14:51:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3KpuBp016932 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:51:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67DA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:50:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:50:47 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Kolg19464 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:50:47 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB3KoJhA006867 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hB3KoIpL027083 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:19 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:50:18 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Automated Interlibrary Loan Notification (fwd) Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Title: Vessels of Clay > Author: Henry J. Donaghy The paperback was only published last month. Most libraries haven't finished ordering, receiving, stickering and shelving it yet. If any have, they haven't told OCLC WorldCat about it, but many libraries only update their holdings with OCLC every year or so. Dunno about academics. But your library should buy a copy if you want one; it's $14.50 and Amazon.com carries it. Ben -- "Information wants to be anthropomorphized." -- Golias, on slashdot From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:03:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3L3rBp017129 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:03:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67DF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:02:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:02:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Kqig19923 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:52:44 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3KpZ61032125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:51:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:52:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Automated Interlibrary Loan Notification (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >The paperback was only published last month. Most libraries haven't >finished ordering, receiving, stickering and shelving it yet. If any >have, they haven't told OCLC WorldCat about it, but many libraries only >update their holdings with OCLC every year or so. Dunno about academics. Thanks! I did not know there would be two editions. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:04:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3L4eBp017146 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:04:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67DF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:03:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:03:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3KrVg19987 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:53:31 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3KqO61032419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:52:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:53:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <3FCD54BE.8060405@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCD4B77.5040905@maynor.net> <3FCD54BE.8060405@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Natalie, perhaps I will bill you for the interest on my triple and double >> payments ... since you own part of the company. > >Sounds reasonable. I'll do the arithmetic later this week. How many drinks do I owe you? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:13:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LD3Bp017295 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:13:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67E8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:11:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:11:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LBrg23293 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:11:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002052E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:11:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312032111.hB3LBrg23293@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:11:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:19:08 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> And tires. I still have never needed to change a tire. I have been >> driving since the early 1950s. > >I had a flat tire this year, but a knight in shining armor (actually in a shining white Ford truck) came along and did it for me. I am very glad that he didn't shove me in my trunk. I should learn how to do it myself. I know there's not much to it. I guess the thing I'm a little unclear on is where to position the jack. > >Marie It's make/model specific these days - consult the manual. In general, it needs to be near the wheel you're changing, and either under the axle, or on the body behind/under the door, or under the bumper-connector in the back. Often there's a little indentation on either side of the exact placement, a sort of cutout. If you lost the manual, you want to put it under something "real" (not a plastic, flexible, loosely attached piece) that you can reach without putting your head under the car. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:18:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LIoBp017400 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:18:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00205316@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:41 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LHeg24035 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 13:17:35 -0800 Received: from 199.174.2.176 by law9-oe37.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:17:34 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.176] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] X-Sender: amyb_short@hotmail.com From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:18:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2003 21:17:35.0057 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEF0B410:01C3B9E2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Does N.O. have a Little Italy. >That reminds me; Neal and I had dinner last night at Fiorella's. Buonissimo. Our family enjoyed Christmas luncheon last year at Tortoricci's. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:18:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LInBp017396 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:18:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67EC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LHdg24031 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778A7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:17:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:09 PM > But in my experience, never wanting to learn a thing means it > will become > necessary shortly, so you may as well go ahead and pick it up > now. If I > decided never to learn Morse Code, Shorthand, or counting to > 5 in Urdu, > where would I be now? As far as the Morse code goes, at least one signal: ...---...---...---... SOSOSOS... (that's the only thing I know) If you ever get pinned under something under somewhere, earthquake, 9/11, etc. and you aren't in a position to yell, that may be the only thing you can send. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:25:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LPnBp017511 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:25:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67EFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LOeg25371 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778A8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:38 PM > All the rest is about style (loosen and tighten the nuts in > alternating order (1-3-5-2-4) so that one side isn't loose > while the other > is tight, eg) or historic - eg, back when cars rolled if not parked > carefully on the level, it was important to put a brick > behind one of the > wheels on the ground. "everyone out of the car!" I've stopped to help people who had their car about halfway up with a pile of kids in the car because of the elements. There's no way I'm getting near a jack where there are moving objects in the car. One wrong move and it's going to shoot out. And once it's done, emphasize over & over they should get a replacement ASAP. I've stopped and the spare is what's blown. "How long have you been using this tire?" "Ever since the other tire went out." "When was that?" "About six weeks ago." "Well, you're going to take a trip to the nearest place which sells car tires. You can't go anywhere." Unfortunately, most of the times this has happened has been 2am-4am with it raining buckets. I don't think people lack motivation when they have a bicycle tire for a spare. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LSdBp017533 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:28:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205391@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LRTg25868 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:29 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:24 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778A9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:27:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:47 PM > Also... The archives don't go back to 1991. That was one of the things I checked when I rejoined. I've enjoyed testing various search engines over time to see how far back they can go and find various types of resources I remember working with. Speaking of which, did anyone else hear about the bid Microsoft made (and has since denied) for Google? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:31:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LVlBp017590 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:31:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67F21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:30:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:30:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LUbg26539 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:30:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB3LUakF008764 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:30:36 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB3LUZLO008762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:30:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:30:35 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031203213035.GA8741@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, steph wrote: = > The brits and other colonists eat something they call a chip = > butty. A french fry sandwich. Maybe some butter, or some = > ketchup. Try it, it's not bad. = = "Not bad", is as far as you'll go? = You are mad, woman. MAD! = = A potato po' boy (with gravy), WHOA NELLY! = See, now you are getting complicated. = One of the highlights of JazzFest os the = cochon du lait po' boy -- half french = fries, half sucking pig. = and even more complicated. I am talking the basics here. And given all the first time reactions I've seen to this sandwich, I don't want to raise expectations. (besides, "not bad" is, well, not bad) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:37:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LbOBp017659 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:37:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67F55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:36:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:36:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LaDg27308 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:36:14 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:36:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:36:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:16 PM > > I like boboli, too, though it's a little > > more expensive than I'd prefer. One of my coworkers has a son in the Boy Scouts and their fund raiser is selling pizza and pizza-related condiments(?) Crusts, sauce, pepperoni, etc. Three pizzas to a box. Crazy bread, etc. from Noble Romans. I make a substantial order (he finished first in his troop this year - I don't know how much my purchase helped) - usually as a donation to the scouts (as a former scout myself) and access to the crusts. The sauce & toppings don't cover the pizza(s) well enough so I usually purchase add'l material at the grocery. I store several in the refrigerator for the first week then they recomment moving them to the freezer after that. The dough quality is about the same as Boboli or slightly better so it's nice to have something nice to start from. > I try to collect coupons for them and stock up when they go > on sale. They freeze well. Pizza is one of my standard short > notice guest appetizers/snack/lunches. Pepperoni also lasts a > long time in the fridge. No, it does not. Pepperoni disappears from the fridge as fast as Reese's cups disappear from the freezer. The only way Pepperoni survives is to purchase it at the store, bring it home, and put it on the pizza while the oven heats up. Otherwise, it's dead meat. Oops. Paronomasia alert. I didn't realize that until I typed it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 15:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3LnQBp017856 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:49:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67F9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:48:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:48:17 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LmCg29125 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:48:17 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:48:07 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:47:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:19 PM > I had a flat tire this year, but a knight in shining armor > (actually in a shining white Ford truck) came along and did > it for me. I am very glad that he didn't shove me in my > trunk. I should learn how to do it myself. I know there's not > much to it. I guess the thing I'm a little unclear on is > where to position the jack. For all of the instructions and horror stories, I'm surprised (actually, EXTREMELY SURPRISED) how trusting women are when I stop to help them. This is especially true in desolate areas at the oddest times. I guess they figure if they're in a pinch they have no choice but to trust me. I usually give them my cell phone and tell them to call whomever they want to and tell them it's their call as to where they want to stand or sit WRT where they are comfortable|safe. This is very true when it comes to making a trip to get a spare, fluids for the car, etc. If nothing else, I've told them to call a friend, relative, store, and describe my vehicle, read the license plate, along with my name off of my driver's license. (I take this very serious) If I were a serious killer, I suppose I'd kill them in spite of all of that, but I think it puts them in the driver's seat (there's another pun) when it comes to some of the safety. If it's an interstate and there's a handy rest stop, I'll take them there and wait inside for them - the buildings are always well lit and out of the weather. What's really bad is when it's a couple who has a dysfunctional vehicle and they don't want to leave the car unattended. Then either he has to go with me and leave her alone, or me take her and leave him with the car (and if I'm a killer, she's alone with me). Fortunately, cell phones with free long distance now makes it easier for everyone to get in touch with someone. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MAcBp018466 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67FA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:53:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:53:56 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Lrug30147 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:53:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67FB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:53:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:13 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> >> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. >> >> clo > >I do, white and wheat flour. It's great to give the kids a chunk and let >them make their own pizzas. > >Terry This plus teaching them how to sew made me extremely popular as a cub scout den mother. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MAcBp018469 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68018@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3M5hg31978 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:44 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:03 AM > >> Being VP is a one-year job. I will be Pres next year. > > > >Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? > > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? Nope. Any group which would have my biological father as a member is a group I would not like to be a member of myself. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MAcBp018468 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A67FB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Ltcg30522 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00205427@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312032155.hB3Ltcg30522@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:53:56 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:13 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: > >>> >>> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >>> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. >>> >>> clo >> >>I do, white and wheat flour. It's great to give the kids a chunk and let >>them make their own pizzas. >> >>Terry > >This plus teaching them how to sew made me extremely popular as a >cub scout den mother. >clo Oh - and the ghost story with each participant providing a specific sound effect (footsteps, creaky door, howling wind, ghostly moan, clanking chains, etc) when they heard the key phrase. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MAcBp018465 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A67FA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:17 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3LnHg29394 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:17 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3LnHEF020186 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:17 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3LnHJx011198 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:49:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:49:13 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things Message-ID: <177159703.1070470153@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. > > clo I do, white and wheat flour. It's great to give the kids a chunk and let them make their own pizzas. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MAcBq018466 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6800F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:08:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:08:14 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3M8Eg32303 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:08:14 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:07:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:50 PM > Doris Markland wrote: > > > And we are flying into Phoenix this > > Monday Dec 8. > > Why are you flying into Phoenix? Dec. 8 is a good date. I can't > remember why now exactly, but it rings bells in my head as being good. [I'm not Catholic but] it's the day of Immaculate Conception. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:10:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MAcBp018467 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A67FD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:55:03 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Lsvg30380 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:54:57 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3LsvEF020406 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:54:57 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3LsvJx012495 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:54:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:54:54 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <177500031.1070470494@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312031708.hB3H8tg06264@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> I have never learned how to change a tire. I figure that if I don't know >> how, I will never have to do it. (But I can change a water pump on >> certain old vehicles.) >> >> Bethany I have changed a few tires, oil, oil filters, and helped with other assorted mechanical contraptions including water pump, radiator, and clutch cable. My father did most of his own car mechanics. He also made sure we knew how to change tires. Got experience every year when he decided to rotate the tires. My mother changed her own tires as well, I remember her getting a flat on the way to swimming lessons one day. We weren't a mile down the road when it happened. We were a bit late and I remember her trying to wash her hands off in the salt water. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MBpBp018513 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:11:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6802E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:42 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3MAfg32505 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:42 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3MAfEF020970 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:41 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3MAfJx015783 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:10:38 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things Message-ID: <178444312.1070471438@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This plus teaching them how to sew made me extremely popular as a > cub scout den mother. > clo I'm all for moving from doing things for them (which I sometimes do too much) to empowering them. I see it as teaching a skill. William and Lil love to cook. Ed is practicing with bowls, onions and potatoes. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:12:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MC4Bp018523 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:12:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68027@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3MAsg32515 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: India Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:05 AM > Back to the original subject . . . > > This week in India Sara heard that the > Nebraska coach had been fired. Now, > I mean that is important world news. > > And this morning she was blessed in a > Hindu temple. I fell asleep reading on the couch last night so this is on my "to read" stack, but the current issue of Business Week deals with the issue of "dealing with India". I'm guessing this is dealing with the increasing use of India in the hi-tech business (frequently, if you call a help desk - not your local school|business - you'll find yourself talking to someone in India). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:21:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MLEBp018688 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:21:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68121@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:20:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3MK4g01995 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:20:05 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AF@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:19:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:57 PM > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:49:00 -0600, Karen Kay > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > >> seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. > > > >I wondered, too. It's dead easy in the bread machine. > > > >Karen, > >practicing fierce optimism > > My bread machine is called a fork. > clo My bread machine is called an ATM. (sorry, I simply could not resist) Paronomasia Rules! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MT4Bp018763 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:29:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68181@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:27:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:27:54 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3MRsg03152 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:27:54 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:27:49 PST Message-ID: <20031203222749.85316.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:27:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1172727981.20031203081651@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor > > But Lynne doesn't like the automaticity. And it's > certainly not > required. Let's just say I'm old-fashioned __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 16:31:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3MVlBp018814 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:31:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002055F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:30:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:30:37 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB3MUXg03476 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:30:33 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:30:27 PST Message-ID: <20031203223027.69554.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:30:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312031455.hB3Etvg01172@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:35:20 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin > > wrote: > > Enough detail to choke a pig. > > > >alec > > Fond as I am of this phrase, please consider how > this reflects on you! > clo Horse has happier connotations. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3N1KBp019292 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:01:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68235@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:00:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:00:10 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3N0Ag07959 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:00:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203230001.HDAI1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:00:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE6AF2.5050606@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:00:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > If you are looking for the Patricia Cornwell that you are used to, skip > the JTR book. It will disappoint, although I did find it interesting to > read. I wish now that I hadn't bought it, though maybe I'll find it interesting now that I know it's not a normal PC book -- as in I won't leap into it with the wrong expectations. > The book that several of us have read recently (still in > hardback) is Blow Fly. The one prior to that was Final Precinct. If > you haven't yet read that one, you should be able to find it in > paperback by now. It will prepare you for some of Blow Fly but not for > chapter 15. :-) I'm bad about remembering titles. What was _Final Precinct_ about? I usually stay on the look-out for new PC paperbacks and thus am not likely to miss one. I don't mean I check bookracks every time I'm in a grocery store -- but often enough that I wouldn't go all that long before discovering a new PC book. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:03:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3N3IBp019312 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:03:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002056E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:02:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:02:08 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3N28g08363 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:02:08 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB3N24EH004761 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:02:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c3b9f1$8f9269e0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312032155.hB3Ltcg30522@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:02:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Oh - and the ghost story with each participant providing a specific > sound effect (footsteps, creaky door, howling wind, ghostly moan, > clanking chains, etc) when they heard the key phrase. > clo Hey, I'd play that. Sounds like fun. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:04:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3N4VBp019327 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:04:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002056E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:03:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:03:21 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3N3Lg08472 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:03:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203230316.HEKB1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:03:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE6BB5.2060804@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:03:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Saying "I play bridge" would have been posting rich where I grew up - I've never associated bridge with money. Cards are cheap, and you don't have to have fancy scorepads. A piece of paper will work. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:05:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3N5uBp019360 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002056F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:46 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3N4kg08613 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB3N4cEH010264 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:04:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c3b9f1$eae8fb60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778AE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: India Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:05:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I fell asleep reading on the couch last night so this is on my "to read" > stack, but the current issue of Business Week deals with the issue of > "dealing with India". I'm guessing this is dealing with the increasing use > of India in the hi-tech business (frequently, if you call a help desk - not > your local school|business - you'll find yourself talking to someone in > India). Yes, I've had that experience. Say, where's Tushar? Maybe he had to go back to India to get a job. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:07:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3N7BBp019372 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:07:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002056F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:06:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:06:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3N60g08866 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:06:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203230555.HFQN1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:05:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE6C54.1030500@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:05:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why Retirement Isn't Fun References: <200312022305.hB2N58Lc022440@ra.msstate.edu> <20031203121244.GA7532@yoccoz.multinix.com> <1428164364.20031203081751@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1428164364.20031203081751@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, steph wrote: > >>= >>= I'm sick of this f'ing banquet! Retired life ain't easy. >>= --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > >>Quityerbitchin. You asked for it. > > It's not like being retired automatically means your life is overfull > with responsibilities. . One must remember not to speak lightly here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:10:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NAABp019412 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:10:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A682AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:09:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:09:00 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3N90g09317 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:09:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203230855.HGVV1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:08:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE6D08.6070803@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:08:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <3afb813adb9a.3adb9a3afb81@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <3afb813adb9a.3adb9a3afb81@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I was hoping to have a Laszlo date with you but a trip to the Red Cat sounds good! Both is not possible, and I don't think The Red Dog can go to The Red Cat. I'm excited about any of these possibilities! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:14:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NEnBp019460 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:14:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A682AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:13:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:13:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NDdg09790 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:13:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3NDcW1004700 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:13:38 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3NDbWq004670; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:13:37 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203150840.03ac19b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:08:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <178444312.1070471438@TWild.uri.edu> References: <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:10 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>This plus teaching them how to sew made me extremely popular as a >>cub scout den mother. >>clo > >I'm all for moving from doing things for them (which I sometimes do too >much) to empowering them. I see it as teaching a skill. William and Lil >love to cook. Ed is practicing with bowls, onions and potatoes. > >Terry Take that sharp knife away from Wil!! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:20:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NKRBp019564 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:20:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A682EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:19:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:19:05 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NJ5g10455 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:19:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203231900.HLBS1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:19:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE6F65.7070700@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:19:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200312031603.hB3G3Sg19587@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312031603.hB3G3Sg19587@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? > > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? Do Masons still exist? I thought they were something of the late nineteenth and very early twentieth century. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:22:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NMBBp019588 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:22:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:21:01 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NL1g10909 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:21:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203232056.HLWE1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE6FD9.5010706@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:20:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>Why are you flying into Phoenix? Dec. 8 is a good date. I can't >>remember why now exactly, but it rings bells in my head as being good. > > We are going to visit Gene's brother . . also several > other friends who live there. Sounds fun. And I still don't remember why Dec. 8 rings a bell with me as being . Hmm. Maybe that was the date of my PhD. I didn't go to the ceremony, but I remember that it was something like Dec. 8 or 10 or so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:26:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NQjBp019645 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:26:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6830E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:25:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:25:35 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NPYg11506 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:25:35 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3NPYEF023617 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:25:34 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB3NPYJx029205 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:25:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:25:31 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things Message-ID: <182937250.1070475931@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203150840.03ac19b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031203150840.03ac19b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Take that sharp knife away from Wil!! > > Betty Yes, Ma'am!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:28:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NRtBp019662 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:27:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002057E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:26:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:26:34 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NQYg11593 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:26:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203232629.HOJH1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7126.7070708@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:26:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312031355.hB3Dt0g17368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I >>was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. >>(as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory >>work as well) > > I also would not learn to type. No one ever suggested that I learn to wait It never occurred to me to associate learning to type with where one might someday work. Among my family and friends it was considered necessary since otherwise you'd have a hassle turning in papers in college. > I have never learned how to change a tire. I figure that if I don't know > how, I will never have to do it. (But I can change a water pump on certain > old vehicles.) Tires don't seem to get flat anymore. I do know how to change a tire and have done it on a couple of occasions. It's not a problem if you're out on . A gallant man will stop and come to your rescue the minute you get out of the car and look at the tire. But it has happened to me at odd times, like walking outside and noticing a flat tire when my car was sitting in the carport (many years ago -- as I said, I don't know that tires go flat anymore). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:32:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NW6Bp019748 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:32:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002057F6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NUug12008 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3NUs2f025421 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:30:54 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3NUrJC025401; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:30:54 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203152548.00b5d840@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:26:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <182937250.1070475931@TWild.uri.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203150840.03ac19b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312032153.hB3Lrug30147@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031203150840.03ac19b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:25 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >>Take that sharp knife away from Wil!! >> >>Betty > > >Yes, Ma'am!!! Give it to Lillia. :-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:32:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NW7Bp019751 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:32:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6831C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:30:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:30:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NUug12013 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:30:56 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB3NUpEH029578 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:30:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004801c3b9f5$95f085c0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:31:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Someone asked about Warren Buffet within the previous month or so - hearing > bridge reminded me of that. He & William Henry Gates III (aka "Billy the > Kid" (in his early days) aka Bill Gates) play online frequently and at least > once a month one flies to the other one's location for them to play > together. I've not seen anything state who the other two players are. I have a good friend who plays bridge for master points. She lives in Arkansas but travels to bridge events and she has played many times at the same table as Warren Buffett. Many people in Omaha who knew him would do practically anything to scrape together $5k or $10 to invest. These folks are fabulously wealthy now but you wouldn't know it to talk to them. So true. I have a bit of Berkshire B stock (it's appreciated but it's small potatoes and you don't get rich on it) so I go to their annual meeting from time to time and I just sit and marvel at this enormous room full of very ordinary people with very extraordinary money. I've written about it on list before. His feeling is stock should be > acquired & held, not cashed in. He also believes that wealth should not be passed down to your children. (Well, that's easy for him to say, because they probably had a pretty good start and are doing well). And he believes we should pay taxes glady (again, that's easy for him to say . .) Neat guy though. I've sat for 5-hour stretches listening to him answer questions from the shareholders at the annual meeting, and it was an awesome experience. He and Charlie Munger, trading ideas as they give answers, are sharp, helpful, and very very funny. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:32:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NWJBp019757 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:32:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6832F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:31:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:31:10 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NV9g12042 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:31:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203233104.HQKL1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:31:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE723A.9040309@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:31:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <346d72341a7f.341a7f346d72@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081413.00ba0dc8@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203081413.00ba0dc8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> It was Rita. I don't know that Betty has discussed this matter. I >> forgot to notice in the cafeteria today whether there was turkey and >> dressing. I think there wasn't, but I didn't really pause at that area. >> I went on to another area that had a Chinese chicken-rice dish that >> was good. I was feeling especially distracted at the moment, having >> just been in the cafeteria office talking about ARF-banquet stuff with >> the Dining Services scheduler, and worrying about where to find a proper >> chair for Santa Claus. > > Screw Santa. Let him stand. I haven't had any time at all today to think more about Santa's chair. My latest worries have to do with piano and microphone and whether the piano will be in tune and whether the performers might be happier bringing their keyboard. Tomorrow I will be going to the Union office to discuss more details about what "unlocking the piano" means, what the microphone is exactly, etc. That will be after I turn in the food order to Dining Services. I also don't know whether there was turkey/dressing in the cafeteria today since I didn't have a chance to go there. I had to be at a meeting at the public library at noon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:33:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NXiBp019808 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:33:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:32:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:32:34 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NWTg12222 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:32:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203233224.HQYV1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:32:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE728A.2070603@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:32:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77888@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1291261017.20031203101632@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1291261017.20031203101632@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > A lot of organizations require a 3-year commitment. I'm VP of my > professional organization this year, and it's the same deal: 1st year > VP, 2nd year Pres, 3rd year director. I've had lots of experience in moving from VP to Pres to Chair of Nominating Committee in professional organizations. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:34:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NYFBp019830 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:34:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68327@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:33:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:33:05 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NX5g12293 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:33:05 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB3NX1EH006899 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:33:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005701c3b9f5$e28b1e40$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:33:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Screw Santa. Let him stand. > > > Betty Phil: > Is this a new position? Interesting. And while he is standing, Betty, you are also standing, or what? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:37:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NbLBp019895 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:37:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6834A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:36:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:36:11 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NaAg12617 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:36:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203233605.HSSP1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:36:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7367.70903@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:36:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <3b445d3b8eb9.3b8eb93b445d@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <3b445d3b8eb9.3b8eb93b445d@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I say we shoot for Saturday Dec 28 at 5 PM...any objections? Sounds like an outstanding plan to me!! > Who would be in? Hand up! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:39:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NduBp019953 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:39:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002057EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:38:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:38:46 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Nckg12878 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:38:46 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.38] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37472988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7405.30004@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:38:45 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Cornwell Books References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> <3FCE6AF2.5050606@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCE6AF2.5050606@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I'm bad about remembering titles. What was _Final Precinct_ about? I > usually stay on the look-out for new PC paperbacks and thus am not > likely to miss one. I don't mean I check bookracks every time I'm in a > grocery store -- but often enough that I wouldn't go all that long > before discovering a new PC book. > Evidently, so am I. It is "The Last Precinct". I am sending you the Amazon review off list. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:41:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NfmBp019992 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:41:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00205825@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:40:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:40:38 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Necg13026 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:40:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203234033.HUMB1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:40:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7472.8010108@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:40:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I like potato chips in combination with dill pickles in general. I like fried pickles, which is kind of like pickles and potato chips I bet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:44:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3Ni7Bp020030 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:44:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68356@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:42:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:42:57 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Ngug13274 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203234251.HVJA1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE74FD.7050505@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:42:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Changing tires was part of our driver's ed. We didn't have driver's ed, but we changed tires in ninth-grade general science. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NjYBp020067 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:45:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6837D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:44:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:44:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NiNg13504 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:44:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3NiM2f012247 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:44:22 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB3NiJJC012201; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:44:20 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203153928.03acd1e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:39:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <005701c3b9f5$e28b1e40$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:33 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > Screw Santa. Let him stand. > > > > > Betty > >Phil: > > Is this a new position? > >Interesting. And while he is standing, >Betty, you are also standing, or what? > > - D. M. I have to let Natalie do it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:46:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NkUBp020086 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:46:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68386@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:45:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:45:20 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NjKg13748 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:45:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203234515.HWGQ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE758C.7030808@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:45:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing > since 1942 . . . I'm not sure that I would know how to do it now since I don't think cars have spare tires anymore, do they? I think they have some kind of fake tires that might or might not attach the same way. I assume that if I have a flat tire, I can find instructions in the car book on how to find and adhere the little fake tire that is presumably stored somewhere under my trunk space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:50:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NoaBp020154 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:50:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68390@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:49:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:49:26 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3NnQg14226 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:49:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203234921.HXWO1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7682.3050707@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:49:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <39cc8c39c2a1.39c2a139cc8c@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <39cc8c39c2a1.39c2a139cc8c@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Natalie has suggested in the past (several times, several years apart) that there has been some discussion and controversy re the meat status of pepperoni on words-l. But there is nothing in the archives that appears to the original dispute or even conversation. Which leads me to believe that this was either a lunch table conversation or created in Natalie's head, but that Natalie is the only one on words-l who isn't sure that pepperoni is meat. In other words, Natalie, let it here be decided that yes, pepperoni is meat. Case closed. No, it was here on Words-L. I'm thinking it was probably early to mid '90s. I mentioned that pepperoni was the only meat I like on pizzas, somebody raised the question of whether it was truly meat, and a discussion ensued, the conclusion of which I don't remember. I vaguely remember that it was determined that pepperoni was . I certainly think of it as meat. And I don't remember that there was any serious -- as nobody was arguing anything. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 17:56:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB3NulBp020320 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A683A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:55:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 151806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:55:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB3Ntbg14879 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:55:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031203235532.IALF1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:55:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE77F5.800@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:55:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > It's not a WORDS-L discussion of the nature of > pepperoni, but appears to indicate that her > confusion about the animal origins of pepperoni > sprouted up after that. > > > I love pizza, but I prefer it without dead pig. Actually I do eat > pepperoni pizza from time to time, now that I think about it. Somehow > that doesn't offend my tastebuds the way sausage pizza does. The only ? Doesn't sound confused to me. Why would I have said "actually" and "now that I think about it" if I had not thought that pepperoni was meat? Thank you for pulling that up! It confirms my memory of that earlier discussion. > fleshly stuff I don't mind on pizza is pepperoni or shrimp. Or squid, > but the only time I've had squid pizza was in Thailand. My favorite > pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, olive (green or black). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:01:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB401cBp020397 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:01:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A683C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:00:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:00:28 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB400Sg15647 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:00:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204000023.ICLI1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:00:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7918.5000605@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:00:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>The only fleshly stuff I don't mind on pizza is pepperoni or shrimp. >>Or squid, but the only time I've had squid pizza was in Thailand. > > I had wonderful seafood pizza at the place across the side street from > Sally's in New Haven. Mussels, shrimp, and squid. Yum! Since the time I wrote that about squid and Thailand, I have indeed had squid on pizza in the US. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB402OBp020414 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:02:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A683C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:01:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:01:14 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB401Eg15783 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:01:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204000109.ICTZ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:01:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7946.5060903@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:01:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Yabbut I was quoting Natalie. Guess I screwed that up. It was clear to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:03:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB403dBp020423 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:03:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A683BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:02:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:02:29 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB402Tg15958 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:02:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204000224.IDHM1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:02:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7991.2010902@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:02:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. My ex-husband always made the crust -- excellent whole-wheat crust. He was a great pizza-maker. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB40AvBp020523 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:10:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A683D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:09:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:09:47 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB409lg16493 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:09:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204000942.IGDC1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7B47.8050705@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:09:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Her biggest fear is she'll retire and later feel as if she regrets it > after-the-fact. She doesn't want a seat reserved at the bridge table for Would unretiring not be possible? It is here. I am not interested. I also today when my dept head asked me if I would consider teaching a couple of English lit survey classes next semester. He's getting kind of desperate, but I don't see it as *really* desperate. Anybody can teach sophomore lit courses, and I feel sure that with enough schedule-shuffling and combing the streets for possible lecturers, that problem can be solved. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:19:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB40JlBp020725 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:19:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68419@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:18:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:18:36 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB40Iag17557 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:18:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204001831.IJTN1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:18:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7D59.80704@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:18:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! References: <1956299080.20031203134230@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1956299080.20031203134230@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > The SI.com article about Croom says: "...no football program in the > SEC struggles more than Mississippi State. The name of the town where > the school is located pretty much says it all -- Starkville. Sounds > like the name of one of the Coen brothers movies." > > They must know about the linguica situation. What exactly is the linguica situation? I don't have time right now (as in the next week) to go looking around at grocery stores. Remind me later, and I will report. I also feel sure that City Bagel has whatever it is since they have pretty much anything anybody has ever heard of. As I said earlier, my lack of knowledge of foods is a personal thing, not a regional thing. As for whatever article you are quoting from (I don't know what SI.com is), they can stick it up their snide and condescending asses. (That isn't a comment about football. MSU has always sucked in fb -- in all sports except baseball, in fact. It's a comment about their comment re Starkville. I realize, of course, that they are simply saying that the football situation is stark, but it comes across somehow as more than that. And, as one who could live anywhere in the world I damn well choose but happen to choose to live in Starkville, I find the comment offensive.) I just looked back at what I wrote and realized I disagree with the football part also. Although MSU sux in fb, how can anybody say it is the suckiest in the SEC? Vanderbilt is still in the SEC. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB40MHBp020785 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:22:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68415@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:21:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:21:07 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB40L6g17928 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:21:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204002101.IKVJ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:21:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7DEF.4010600@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > There was a lot of publicity in the athletic sectors recently because > Mississippi State hired an African American coach. I noticed that in news stories I saw -- not so much local ones but the ones from AP or whoever. It has sounded to me like something out of the '50s or '60s. What's all the hooplah about race? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB40SMBp020907 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:28:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6842B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:27:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:27:07 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB40R7g18612 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:27:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204002701.INDJ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:27:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7F57.3080400@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:27:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <3b26393aaed1.3aaed13b2639@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <3b26393aaed1.3aaed13b2639@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I had a flat tire this year, but a knight in shining armor (actually in a shining white Ford truck) came along and did it for me. I am very glad that he didn't shove me in my trunk. I should learn how to do it myself. I know there's not much to it. I guess the thing I'm a little unclear on is where to position the jack. Why is it that when I reply to some people's postings, I can't see what they've written since it spurts way out to the right into infinity? Marie is one. I've caught on that it will reinsert itself into this reply -- it's just that I can't see it at the moment -- can't see anything past the second "shining." The hardest part of changing a tire is lifting the spare. (Or at least that was true when spares were regular tires.) That's one reason I was always happy to have small cars with small tires. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:29:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB40ToBp020936 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:29:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002058F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:28:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:28:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB40Sdg18688 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:28:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204002834.INUW1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:28:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE7FB4.2060503@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:28:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Automated Interlibrary Loan Notification (fwd) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > But your library should buy a copy if you want one; it's $14.50 and > Amazon.com carries it. It's a couple of dollars cheaper from 1stbooks.com. (And, as I said earlier, it is surprisingly poorly written.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 18:31:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB40VfBp020981 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:31:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68435@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:30:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:30:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB40UUg18964 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:30:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204003025.IOMW1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:30:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE8022.8080400@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:30:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun References: <20031203021802.15449.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCD4B77.5040905@maynor.net> <3FCD54BE.8060405@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I'll do the arithmetic later this week. How many drinks do I owe you? I'm losing count. I need to sit down with pen and paper and try to figure it out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:28:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41SRBp022015 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:28:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A684CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:27:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:27:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f31.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.31]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41RGg23839 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:27:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:27:11 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.17 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:27:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.17] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: DVD Players Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:27:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 01:27:11.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD8245A0:01C3BA05] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Thanks. Something about the term "bourgeois Bohemian" strikes me as a >bit pompous, though. In various ways. Don't know about pompous. This was one of those books/columns celebrating consumption, luxury items, shopping as a national virtue etc. _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids’ toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:31:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41VvBp022076 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:31:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A684ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:30:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:30:46 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41Ukg24268 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:30:46 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031204013038013000a30ke>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:30:38 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031203172504.040e3858@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:33:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: IMFTATL: academic discounts for software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For my friend the teacher, where's the best place to buy software (e.g., Microsoft Office) with an academic discount? academicsuperstore.com has the Office 2003 Student & Teacher Edition for $139.95; Microsoft has it direct for $149.00. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41d0Bp022139 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:39:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A684FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:37:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:37:49 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f41.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41bng24890 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:37:49 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:37:43 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.17 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:37:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.17] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: DVD Players Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:37:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 01:37:43.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[3674FD80:01C3BA07] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: > >Bourgeois Bohemian - something like that. Coined by David > >Brooks in -Bobos in Paradise-. His thesis is that wasabi > >peas and supermarket sushi and hazelnut lattes are no > >longer confined to big cities and the coasts and are > >avaliable all across the country. Once exotic tastes > >now have mass appeal - something like that. >And omigod what a bad thing it would be if we picked up >each other's habits! We should definitely coin a pejorative >term for it. what, what - who are you slamming here - me or David brooks? There's nothing pejorative about bobo as Brooks uses it. Things that start out edgy and bohemian get rapidly and voraciously absorbed into the "bourgeois" mainstream. He sees this as a good, American, Republican phenomenon. _________________________________________________________________ Cell phone ‘switch’ rules are taking effect — find out more here. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41ghBp022213 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:42:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68508@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:41:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:41:31 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f6.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41fVg25180 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:41:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:41:25 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.17 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:41:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.17] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:41:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 01:41:25.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAE78BA0:01C3BA07] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: >We!? Are you saying?...are we actually going to get to dine with a VIP? ohmigawd, I don't believe this! >Saturday Dec 28 at 5 PM...any objections? (Are they open at 5 on Saturdays >too?) Who would be in? memememe _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:45:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41jCBp022263 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:45:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A684F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:44:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:44:01 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41i0g25392 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:44:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204014355.BDGV1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:43:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE915D.4080409@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:43:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7788D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <004801c3b9f5$95f085c0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <004801c3b9f5$95f085c0$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I have a good friend who plays bridge for > master points. She lives in Arkansas but > travels to bridge events and she has > played many times at the same table as > Warren Buffett. Re bridge, I should add that I was never anything but a bridge-player -- as in card games and fellowship are fun. I've had friends (still do) whose attitude toward bridge is far more serious than mine -- people I have not played bridge with, I should add -- we aren't the same kind of bridge-players. They play duplicate, travel around everywhere, etc. etc. I might have mentioned before that one of my good friends here, now dead, went on several occasions to whole weekend bridge-games. You got to sleep or cook if you were dummy. Actually, I think it wasn't quite that bad -- I think that they would have five people on these trips, so that one person wasn't in the game at all and could do the necessary chores for the survival of their bridge marathon. She was also the friend who went with a group of bridge-players to see some kind of exhibit in Jackson (unrelated to bridge -- one of the King Tut type things), and they went in a bus equipped with tables so that they could play bridge all the way down and back. > And he believes we should pay taxes glady (again, that's > easy for him to say . .) That's easy for me to say also. I say it readily (which is one of the reasons my RRB calls me a communist, though his main reason is that I have never "made anything of myself in life.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:46:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41kSBp022288 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:46:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A684F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:14 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41jEg25522 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204014508.BDUW1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE91A6.2000808@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:45:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <005701c3b9f5$e28b1e40$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <005701c3b9f5$e28b1e40$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>>Screw Santa. Let him stand. >> >>>Betty > > Phil: > >>Is this a new position? > > Interesting. And while he is standing, > Betty, you are also standing, or what? I would assume that she would also be standing if she were screwing a standing Santa. Isn't that how it usually works? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:46:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41kdBp022292 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:46:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002059B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:25 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f67.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41jOg25538 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:24 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:45:19 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.17 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:45:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.17] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Knitting Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:45:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 01:45:19.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[46017070:01C3BA08] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Ek Doe Teen Char Panch. shabash! Can't believe I remember this. _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:49:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41nsBp022317 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:49:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68507@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:43 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41mhg25826 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204014831.BFHM1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE9271.3010105@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:48:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cornwell Books References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> <3FCE6AF2.5050606@maynor.net> <3FCE7405.30004@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCE7405.30004@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > Evidently, so am I. It is "The Last Precinct". I am sending you the > Amazon review off list. And I thank you (as I did earlier in reply to the direct mail). I'm pretty sure I haven't read it, although since writing that reply to you, I've been thinking how a shrink was indeed involved in one of her books I read in recent history -- as in the past couple of years. I am thinking more and more that I did read that one. Can you tell me something more specific than the reviews told but not something specific enough to give away anything if I have not in fact read it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41oABp022321 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:50:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68522@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:59 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41mxg25848 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:59 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120401485301400bdplme> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:48:53 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:48:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My favorite > pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, olive (green or black). > > -- > Richard Everything but the green pepper sounds good to me. My favorite topping combination was pepperoni, mushroom, and anchovies. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41pNBp022330 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:51:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6851C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:50:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:50:09 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41o9g25963 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:50:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204015004.BFWW1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:50:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE92CD.3060909@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:50:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031203153928.03acd1e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203153928.03acd1e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> > > Screw Santa. Let him stand. >> > > Betty >> Phil: >> > Is this a new position? >> Interesting. And while he is standing, >> Betty, you are also standing, or what? >> - D. M. > I have to let Natalie do it. Screw him? Well if I let him stand, then I will also be standing, unless I turn myself into a hovercraft or something -- or perhaps have some kind of lifting device devised. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 19:53:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB41rUBp022344 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:53:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68523@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:19 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB41qEg26125 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204015209.BGUD1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE934A.20904@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:52:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: DVD Players References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Natalie: > >> Thanks. Something about the term "bourgeois Bohemian" strikes me as a >> bit pompous, though. In various ways. > > Don't know about pompous. This was one of those books/columns > celebrating consumption, luxury items, shopping as a national virtue etc. I guess it's the choice of the word "bourgeois" that sounds pompous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:04:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB424sBp022477 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:04:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68551@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:03:43 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB423gg27250 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:03:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204020335.IXME2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE95FA.9000306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:03:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>My favorite >>pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, olive (green or black). >>-- >>Richard > > Everything but the green pepper sounds good to me. My favorite topping > combination was pepperoni, mushroom, and anchovies. Maybe you really did screw up, Richard. I thought you were clear, but Adam's failure to delete your signature from my words makes me think he also might have thought they were your words. It was I who said the above, not Richard. Richard was quoting me from the archives. And since so many people seem to think those (all of what he quoted -- not just that one sentence above) words were Richard's, why is nobody accusing him of calling pepperoni a non-meat? As I've said on various occasions before, I have never in my life felt paranoid except on Words-L. I think this is a pretty clear case of why I might feel that way on Words-L. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:06:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB426DBp022498 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:06:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002059FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:05:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:05:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4252g27357 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:05:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205A30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:05:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:05:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:03:17 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Saying "I play bridge" would have been posting rich where I grew up - > >I've never associated bridge with money. Cards are cheap, and you don't >have to have fancy scorepads. A piece of paper will work. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Whew, that's telling. It's not costly, as for instance skiing and golf would be. It's that only people of the leisured or professional classes, who traded in cars instead of driving them till they died a rusty death, would be likely to indulge in. Part of the vocab lf the upper crust. My dad, eg, taught himself to play by reading books and bridge columns, and by using us as the other three players after dinner as soon as 3 of us graduated from "go fish" to pitch. But some of his Masonic buddies and their wives - the undertaker, say, or the insurance salesman - you know, people with and - played in foursomes and tournaments. clo clo clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:08:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB428rBp022533 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:08:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00205A36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:07:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB427gg27597 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:07:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00205A07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:07:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200312040207.hB427gg27597@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:07:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:19:01 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>>Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? >> >> Probably very like. Are you a Mason? > >Do Masons still exist? I thought they were something of the late >nineteenth and very early twentieth century. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Interesting. My father was Grand (State officer) Chaplain for several years. My brothers and one bil joined. I often helped him study his part for installations and funerals, thus lrnng t crck th scrt Msnc cd. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:16:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42FxBp022662 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:16:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:14:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:14:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42Emg28251 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:14:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205A4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:14:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312040214.hB42Emg28251@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:14:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:26:30 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >>>I would not learn to type, wait tables, or use a cash register, since I >>>was determined never to work anyplace that would require those skills. >>>(as it happened, I ended up doing all three, and childcare and factory >>>work as well) >> >> I also would not learn to type. No one ever suggested that I learn to wait > >It never occurred to me to associate learning to type with where one >might someday work. Among my family and friends it was considered >necessary since otherwise you'd have a hassle turning in papers in college. I believed (this dates me) that I'd never have to learn since I could turn in handwritten papers as an undergrad. This is not to say that I had no clue how to type; I certainly had access to all the materials from my father's college touch typing course, and of course could use a typewriter and mimeograph to turn out bulletins and church newsletters when Mom had the flu or some such disaster. I was just pig stubborn on the notion, because my dad kept pointing out that I could be a secretary after college while waiting to become a mother. It would come in . But many many girls/women I knew were learning to type for just this reason: typing jobs paid better than most other jobs (waitressing at a diner, eg) if you didn't want to teach school or nurse. I personally felt it would be better to become an electrician or plumber; but of course I wasn't allowed to enroll in those "boys' courses". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:18:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42IhBp022734 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:18:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6856A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:17:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:17:32 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42HWg28582 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:17:32 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:17:27 PST Message-ID: <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:17:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I like potato chips in combination with dill pickles > in general. And sometimes I used to put chips into > my hoagies... Mustard sandwiches, anyone? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:20:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42KKBp022756 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:20:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:19:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:18:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42IMg28690 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:18:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205A56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312040218.hB42IMg28690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:18:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:45:16 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ann Borkin wrote: > >> I need a refresher. Surely there have been advances in tire changing >> since 1942 . . . > >I'm not sure that I would know how to do it now since I don't think cars >have spare tires anymore, do they? I think they have some kind >of fake tires that might or might not attach the same way. I assume >that if I have a flat tire, I can find instructions in the car book on >how to find and adhere the little fake tire that is presumably stored >somewhere under my trunk space. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) They do "attach" in the same way; but you don't have to get them when you buy a car. You have the option of insisting on (sometimes paying a little extra for, though I'm certain Bethany can bargain to have it "thrown in") a "full" spare. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:22:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42MUBp022823 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:22:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6857E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:21:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:21:19 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42LJg29016 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:21:19 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:21:12 PST Message-ID: <20031204022112.46659.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:21:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > Changing tires was part of our driver's ed. > > Betty We had Driver's Ed in high school, but for some rason, it was a small program. My father insisted I learn how to change a tire before I learned how to drive. The tire he taught me, the driving he did not. My boyfriend (later husband) taught the driving. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:24:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42OkBp022855 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:24:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68588@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:23:35 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42NZg29264 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:23:35 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120402232901300m9suhe> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:23:29 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:23:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FCE95FA.9000306@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Maybe you really did screw up, Richard. I thought you were clear, but > Adam's failure to delete your signature from my words makes me think he > also might have thought they were your words. It was I who said the > above, not Richard. Richard was quoting me from the archives. Oh. Oops. Sorry for the misattribution. My comment stands, however. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42QABp022893 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:26:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68571@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:24:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:24:59 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42Oxg29427 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:24:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68583@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:24:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312040224.hB42Oxg29427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:24:59 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: IMFTATL: academic discounts for software To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:33:22 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >For my friend the teacher, where's the best place to buy software (e.g., >Microsoft Office) with an academic discount? > >academicsuperstore.com has the Office 2003 Student & Teacher Edition for >$139.95; Microsoft has it direct for $149.00. > >Pete and www.creationengine.com has it for $149 also. But they are worth checking as well for other things. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:28:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42SqBp022926 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:28:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6858E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:27:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:27:41 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42Rfg29682 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:27:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204022734.DCYB1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:27:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I've never associated bridge with money. Cards are cheap, and you don't >>have to have fancy scorepads. A piece of paper will work. >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Whew, that's telling. What's telling what? > It's not costly, as for instance skiing and golf would be. It's that only > people of the leisured or professional classes, who traded in cars instead > of driving them till they died a rusty death, would be likely to indulge in. > Part of the vocab lf the upper crust. I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. > My dad, eg, taught himself to play by reading books and bridge columns, > and by using us as the other three players after dinner as soon as 3 of us > graduated from "go fish" to pitch. But some of his Masonic buddies and > their wives - the undertaker, say, or the insurance salesman - you know, > people with and - played in foursomes and tournaments. Masonic buddies? So the Masons did still exist. As I think I mentioned, I was never into bridge-tournament stuff, though I can't see how choosing to take it to a would have anything to do with wealth (in a case like playing cards). And certainly playing in foursomes wouldn't. I guess it's sort of like most people I've known have been to Europe, but I must say that most people I've known have known at least three other people -- iow, playing a game that requires four is not something I've ever thought of as . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:35:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42ZHBp023038 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:35:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68591@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:34:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:34:06 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42Y6g30364 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:34:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204023401.DFTA1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:34:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE9D0C.9060601@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:33:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200312040207.hB427gg27597@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312040207.hB427gg27597@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Do Masons still exist? I thought they were something of the late >>nineteenth and very early twentieth century. >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Interesting. My father was Grand (State officer) Chaplain for several years. > My brothers and one bil joined. I often helped him study his part for > installations and funerals, thus lrnng t crck th scrt Msnc cd. I gathered from your previous posting that it must have existed at least not all that long ago. I guess the reason I associate it with a good many years ago is that I've never heard anybody mention it in my life but do know that my grandfather (who died in the '20s) was a Mason. I know that because I found his obituary. I have it on my genealogy website. Lemme look... Found it: ***************************************** February 1923 Jackson, Mississippi HOLD SERVICES FOR WELL KNOWN CITIZEN The funeral services of R. F. Maynor, local railroad man, who died in Chicago suddenly last Sunday, were conducted yesterday afternoon from the family residence on West Capitol Street. Pearl Lodge F.& A.M. had charge of the fraternal funeral, and marched in a body from the Masonic Hall to the residence shortly after 9 o'clock. Dr. H.F. Tolle, assisted by Dr. H.M. King, conducted the funeral and interment was at Cederlawn. Many friends gathered to pay their last respects to this man who was universally known in his particular line of endeavor and had many friends in every walk of life. The pall bearers were as follows: H.A. Mercer, W.O. Rea, Wayne Smith, O.P. Gober, C.E. Holmes and J.T. McMahon. Honorary: J.W. Marley, O.H. Wingfield, T.B. Doxey, Dr. R.S. Neyland, L. Zeagler, O.A. Graham, Capt. John A. Webb, S.P. McRae, John Stewart, E.E. Denson, Luther Rhymes, and W.L. Barrow. ********************** from: http://www.maynor.net/Genealogy/rfmobit.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:36:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42acBp023067 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:36:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68581@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:27 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42ZRg30479 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:27 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:35:22 PST Message-ID: <20031204023522.50755.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:35:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: My favorite > pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, > olive (green or black). Two cheese (at least) Canadian bacon, onion and mushers. Whee! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42alBp023084 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:36:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205A7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:36 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42Zag30501 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00205A79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200312040235.hB42Zag30501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:27:36 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>I've never associated bridge with money. Cards are cheap, and you don't >>>have to have fancy scorepads. A piece of paper will work. >>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >> Whew, that's telling. > >What's telling what? Your statement tells me that you didn't appreciate the notion of bridge- playing ladies as being out of class from the world you inhabited. It's not about logic; it's about group markers. > >> It's not costly, as for instance skiing and golf would be. It's that only >> people of the leisured or professional classes, who traded in cars instead >> of driving them till they died a rusty death, would be likely to indulge in. >> Part of the vocab lf the upper crust. > >I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. Yes, your statement told me so. > >> My dad, eg, taught himself to play by reading books and bridge columns, >> and by using us as the other three players after dinner as soon as 3 of us >> graduated from "go fish" to pitch. But some of his Masonic buddies and >> their wives - the undertaker, say, or the insurance salesman - you know, >> people with and - played in foursomes and tournaments. > >Masonic buddies? So the Masons did still exist. Yes, true, they do. >As I think I >mentioned, I was never into bridge-tournament stuff, though I can't see >how choosing to take it to a would have anything to do >with wealth (in a case like playing cards). And certainly playing in >foursomes wouldn't. I guess it's sort of like most people I've known >have been to Europe, but I must say that most people I've known have >known at least three other people -- iow, playing a game that requires >four is not something I've ever thought of as . I see I have to be more explicit: Foursome: a group of four people who regularly meet to play a game as a social activity. In my dad's case, I'm sure he could have sat in on friends' games; but he'd have had to learn in public. "Teaching" us let him work out strategies in private. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:39:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42dCBp023132 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:39:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68588@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:38:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:38:00 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42c0g30704 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:38:00 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:37:55 PST Message-ID: <20031204023755.27171.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <322810446.20031203121118@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: And excellent bait, seriously. In this form, it does not wiggle and has a wonderful firmness and texture. Great for crabbing or salt water pole fishing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:41:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42f6Bp023171 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:41:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6859D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:39:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:39:55 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42dtg30803 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:39:55 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:39:49 PST Message-ID: <20031204023949.52244.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:39:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > clo: > > I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their > own crust? I've > > seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a > crust to taste. > > Raises hand. > > I like boboli, too, though it's a little > more expensive than I'd prefer. Haven't tried from scratch crust yet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:42:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42gYBp023213 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:42:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6858C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:41:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:41:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42VNg30181 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:31:23 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB42UF61020890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:30:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:31:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312040218.hB42IMg28690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312040218.hB42IMg28690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >They do "attach" in the same way; but you don't have to get them when you buy >a car. You have the option of insisting on (sometimes paying a little extra >for, though I'm certain Bethany can bargain to have it "thrown in") a "full" >spare. Thanks. I'll make a note to do that when I vehicle shop - in about a year, I think. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:44:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42igBp023265 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:44:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A685A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:31 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42hVg31185 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204024322.DJOG1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCE9F4C.8090604@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:43:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312040214.hB42Emg28251@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312040214.hB42Emg28251@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I believed (this dates me) that I'd never have to learn since I could turn in > handwritten papers as an undergrad. This is not to say that I had no clue how I thought you were younger than I am. I'm almost sure you are. I'm sixty. I graduated from high school in '61 and college in '65. Papers were required to be typed when I was in college. > I was just pig stubborn on the notion, because my dad kept pointing > out that I could be a secretary after college while waiting to become a > mother. It would come in . Ahh. I do understand that mode of thought, though I had never heard it said as being a secretary. It was always about being a teacher. It wasn't that my parents said that to me. I think they just assumed that I would get married right after college graduation, as my mother had and as seemed , and would be a housewife while waiting to become a mother. But my general culture said that females should get teaching certificates and that the usual routine, unlike in my parents' generation, was for a female to teach for a year or so after getting married, then quit teaching when motherhood came along. > But many many girls/women I knew were learning to type for just this reason: > typing jobs paid better than most other jobs (waitressing at a diner, eg) > if you didn't want to teach school or nurse. I personally felt it would be > better to become an electrician or plumber; but of course I wasn't allowed > to enroll in those "boys' courses". Teaching school was for females of my generation/culture. And I was too much of a conformist to have consisted anything else. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42jcBp023296 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6858F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:44:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:44:27 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42iRg31224 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:44:27 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:44:20 PST Message-ID: <20031204024420.9828.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:44:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > From: Betty Clark > [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:15 AM > > > > Screw Santa. Let him stand. > > > Betty > > Is this a new position? As with any other civil service placement, there is a fee for application. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:49:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42nSBp023373 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:49:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A685A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:48:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:48:17 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42mHg31482 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:48:17 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:48:11 PST Message-ID: <20031204024811.64488.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:48:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > IIRC, he wasn't associated with needlecrafts but was > known to have worn > panty hose to help keep his legs warm during a > football game. He actually did some commercials for L'eggs, iirc. He played at AL, but is from Beaver Falls, PA, so I sort of kept up with him. I've never known anything about Broadway Joe and Needlecraft. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:52:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42q3Bp023422 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A685B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:50:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:50:52 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42oqg31589 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:50:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ac.1dbf02b0 (4539) for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:50:39 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ac.1dbf02b0.2cfffafe@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:50:38 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/3/2003 12:03:00 PM Central Standard Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << My favorite pizza toppings are green pepper, onion, mushroom, olive (green or black). >> Mine, too. It's been so long since I had a real pizza. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:52:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42qrBp023452 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:52:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00205A63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:51:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:51:42 -0500 Received: from vmmr9.verisignmail.com (omrnat4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42pgg31643 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:51:42 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (ms4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.177] (may be forged)) by vmmr9.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id PNR01664; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AVZ64917; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:40:31 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Knitting Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> References: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 3 Dec 2003 at 20:27, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Masonic buddies? So the Masons did still exist. I don't why you think Masons have vanished. See, for example: http://www.msgrandlodge.org/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42sVBp023470 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:54:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00205A94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:53:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:53:19 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB42rJg31817 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:53:19 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:53:13 PST Message-ID: <20031204025313.13454.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:53:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3b26393aaed1.3aaed13b2639@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: I know there's not much to it. I guess > the thing I'm a little unclear on is where to > position the jack. I've been waiting for someone to mention the gizmos we carry in our cars. You plug one into the lighter source, and it will inflate a tire long enough to get you to some assistance. (I fully realize that is relative, but it could come in handy). We've never had to use them. Maybe they don't really work, so no one else has them (?) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 20:57:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB42vpBp023571 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:57:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A685B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:56:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:56:10 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB42u9g32044 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:56:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204025558.RRXK1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEA240.4000909@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:56:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Mustard sandwiches, anyone? I was just hopping between some high school talk and here (some e-mail from this bunch of my old hs classmates who were not my good friends but who have turned into a sort of e-mail group because we did a bunch of the searching for lost classmates before our reunion a couple of years ago and have continued e-contact). And that is why I read the above as mustard seed. I don't know mustand sandwiches, but do y'all remember mustard-seed necklaces? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:01:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB431oBp023717 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:01:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A685EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:39 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB430dg32696 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204030034.RUDT1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEA353.2030804@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:00:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312040218.hB42IMg28690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312040218.hB42IMg28690@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > They do "attach" in the same way; but you don't have to get them when you buy > a car. You have the option of insisting on (sometimes paying a little extra > for, though I'm certain Bethany can bargain to have it "thrown in") a "full" > spare. Perhaps I will explore that the next time I buy a car. But I probably won't. Car tires just don't seem to die anymore. And if one dies when I'm on the road, a gallant stranger will come to my rescue. If it dies in my driveway, I'll walk to work and then have a service-station person come deal with it. The times I changed tires in my driveway were when I was younger and poorer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:01:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB431uBp023726 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:01:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A685FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:44 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB430ig32719 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:00:44 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:00:37 PST Message-ID: <20031204030037.45359.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:00:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001401c3b9f1$8f9269e0$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Oh - and the ghost story with each participant > providing a specific > > sound effect (footsteps, creaky door, howling > wind, ghostly moan, > > clanking chains, etc) when they heard the key > phrase. > > clo > > > Hey, I'd play that. Sounds like fun. > > - D. M. Especially when played in the dark, and the management has the suitable props to pass around the circle. For instance, peeled grapes. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:03:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB433BBp023763 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:03:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6860B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:02:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:02:00 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4320g00423 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:02:00 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:01:55 PST Message-ID: <20031204030155.15817.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:01:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: India To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002301c3b9f1$eae8fb60$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: >> Say, where's Tushar? Maybe he had to > go back to India to get a job. I started to remind you to ask Sara to keep an eye out for him. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:06:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4367Bp023819 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:06:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6860F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:04:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:04:56 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB434ug00799 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:04:56 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:04:51 PST Message-ID: <20031204030451.92885.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:04:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCE6F65.7070700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > >>Anything like the Masons working through the > chairs? > > > > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? > > Do Masons still exist? I thought they were > something of the late > nineteenth and very early twentieth century. They certainly do still exist, with they're secret oaths, degrees, eyes, and pyramids. Almost all of the Founding Fathers were Masons. To this say, all members of the Brit Royal family are members. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:07:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB437RBp023835 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:07:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6861A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:06:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:06:15 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB436Fg01012 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:06:15 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:06:09 PST Message-ID: <20031204030609.58527.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <182937250.1070475931@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Terry Wild wrote: > > Take that sharp knife away from Wil!! > > > > Betty > > > Yes, Ma'am!!! Do not let him blandish it at the teacher who gave him "0" in spelling. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:15:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43FMBp024904 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:15:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6862D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:14:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:14:10 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43EAg01608 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:14:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204031405.MLDH1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:14:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEA679.9000802@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:14:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <20031204022112.46659.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031204022112.46659.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > We had Driver's Ed in high school, but for some rason, > it was a small program. When I was writing earlier that we had no Driver's Ed, there was something niggling around in my head saying that it did in fact exist but that nobody took it (which makes me wonder how it could have existed). I still have that niggling thought, though it really doesn't make much sense. In my world, which was the world inhabited by my classmates, your parents or older siblings taught you to drive. I was driving quite well by the age of twelve, though I had to be fifteen to get a driver's license. I first sat in Daddy's lap and steered, at the age of eight or ten, then moved on to driving myself, though always with a parent in the car. When I was about twelve-fourteen, I was constantly driving the car up and down the driveway, chomping at the bits, as everybody of that age was in my world, to be able to head on out to the streets. I remember adoring the summer visits I made to Wiggins, Mississippi, where driving age was not considered important. My friends and I, all under the legal Mississippi driving age of fifteen, drove all over the place. The driver's license thing was quite different in Jackson. You had to have one. By the time we were in about the third grade, we all had found a way to figure out the day of the week our fifteenth birthday would fall on. And I had enormous sympathy since mine fell on a SUNDAY. That was one of the worst strokes of luck in my life. I could not get my driver's license on my fifteenth birthday since the Mississippi Highway Patrol Office was not open on Sunday. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:18:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43IHBp024930 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:18:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6863B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:17:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:17:04 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43H4g02023 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:17:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204031655.MMNE1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:16:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEA729.8020804@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:16:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: >>Maybe you really did screw up, Richard. I thought you were clear, but >>Adam's failure to delete your signature from my words makes me think he >>also might have thought they were your words. It was I who said the >>above, not Richard. Richard was quoting me from the archives. > > Oh. Oops. Sorry for the misattribution. My comment stands, however. I am feeling a bit better about what I've feared was rampant alzheimers. At first I thought, "what was your comment?" But pretty quickly I remembered (I think): you don't like green peppers but you like anchovies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:27:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43RcBp025162 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:27:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:26:27 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB43QQg03083 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:26:27 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:26:20 PST Message-ID: <20031204032620.40815.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:26:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCE95FA.9000306@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And since so many people seem to think those (all of > what he quoted -- > not just that one sentence above) words were > Richard's, why is nobody > accusing him of calling pepperoni a non-meat? As > I've said on various > occasions before, I have never in my life felt > paranoid except on > Words-L. I think this is a pretty clear case of why > I might feel that > way on Words-L. Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:34:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43YCBp025267 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:34:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6869F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:33:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:33:00 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43X0g04013 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:33:00 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7AA6F2B8FE; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA762B8FC for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <20031204032620.40815.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a > comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. Comforting? To who/m? Speak for yourself, B***** and please withdraw that evil robot you've installed in my brain, which used to be PERFECT. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:36:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43aNBp025342 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:36:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6868A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:35:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:35:11 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43ZBg04203 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:35:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204033506.BJJJ1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:35:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEAB6B.9080307@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:35:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312040235.hB42Zag30501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312040235.hB42Zag30501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>>I've never associated bridge with money. Cards are cheap, and you don't >>>>have to have fancy scorepads. A piece of paper will work. >>>>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >>> >>>Whew, that's telling. >> >>What's telling what? > > Your statement tells me that you didn't appreciate the notion of bridge- > playing ladies as being out of class from the world you inhabited. It's not > about logic; it's about group markers. I'd never thought of bridge as a "group marker." But you're right that I have never thought of "bridge-playing ladies" (or men) as being not of my world. My parents always played bridge -- not serious bridge -- just social bridge -- like neighbors would get together and play bridge. I have a feeling that tv has changed some of that old culture -- the old days when neighbors would get together to do whatever. >>known at least three other people -- iow, playing a game that requires >>four is not something I've ever thought of as . > > I see I have to be more explicit: > Foursome: a group of four people who regularly meet to play a game as a > social activity. I don't see why you think you have to be more explicit than you were before. Foursome to me also means four people who get together to do something. Maybe the problem is the "regularly meet." I don't know that a foursome has to regularly meet to be a foursome. But even if they do meet regularly, what does that have to do with what you were saying? I do think we may live on different planets. Four people meeting regularly to play a game does not strike me as . It strikes me as four people meeting regularly to play a game. > In my dad's case, I'm sure he could have sat in on friends' games; but he'd > have had to learn in public. "Teaching" us let him work out strategies in > private. I need to log off and go to bed. I read this last part twice and still find it weird. How did we move from your weird-to-me idea that bridge was somehow an activity for the to your father's need for ? Are you saying that your father had some kind of hang-up re money? He wanted to appear to be wealthy? I'm finding this whole bridge discussion way weird. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43cABp025379 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:38:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A686A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:36:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:36:59 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43awg04359 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:36:58 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB43awEF029588 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:36:58 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB43awJx001616 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:36:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:36:55 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things Message-ID: <198020781.1070491015@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <20031204030609.58527.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031204030609.58527.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -On Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:06 PM -0800 Lynne Weber wrote: > > Do not let him blandish it at the teacher who gave him > "0" in spelling. > Oh, no, those zero tolerance policies extend to everything, including chicken nuggets. Be careful what you point! Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:43:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43h8Bp025485 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:43:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A686B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:41:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:41:57 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB43fug04776 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:41:56 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:41:51 PST Message-ID: <20031204034151.33330.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:41:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCEA679.9000802@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I could not get my driver's > license on my fifteenth > birthday since the Mississippi Highway Patrol Office > was not open on Sunday. On the eve of my sixteenth birthday, I mailed my application for a driver;s license to Harrisburg - mailed it special delivery. Some postal person had told me I could force the license people to mail it back quickly if I enclosed a SASE, also Special Delivery. I got the license in two days. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:44:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43iDBp025508 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:44:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A686BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:43:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:43:02 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB43h1g04963 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:43:01 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:42:56 PST Message-ID: <20031204034256.68557.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:42:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a > > comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. > > Comforting? To who/m? Speak for yourself, B***** > and please withdraw > that evil robot you've installed in my brain, which > used to be PERFECT. > > Ann Sorry, I have a no return policy. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43pABp025684 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:51:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A686D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:49:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:49:58 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43nwg05803 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:49:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204034953.DOMZ1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:49:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEAEE2.9050001@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:49:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >>Masonic buddies? So the Masons did still exist. > > I don't why you think Masons have vanished. See, for example: > > http://www.msgrandlodge.org/ Thanks. No time for url-chasing tonight. Am already up past my bed-time but am feeling kind of crazy from stuff going on and am therefore up later (which makes no sense, I realize). Will check the url later, though, since I've always wondered what Masons were/are. I have them mixed up in my head with Shriners, which I also don't know what are but which I do have memories of -- they drove little carts in parades in my childhood. Re why I think Masons have vanished: it's because my only knowledge of that term is from long-ago things, like the obituary of my grandfather who died in the '20s. I haven't heard of Masons in my own life -- i.e., I haven't heard of Masons as a group that currently existed between March 16, 1943, and December 3, 2003. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:54:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43sXBp025787 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:54:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68705@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:21 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43rLg06143 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204035316.DPUG1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEAFAD.5000702@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:53:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting References: <20031204024811.64488.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031204024811.64488.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > >>IIRC, he wasn't associated with needlecrafts but was >>known to have worn >>panty hose to help keep his legs warm during a >>football game. > > He actually did some commercials for L'eggs, iirc. He > played at AL, but is from Beaver Falls, PA, so I sort > of kept up with him. I've never known anything about > Broadway Joe and Needlecraft. I remember his tv ads for pantyhose. I don't know whether he truly wore them. And I don't know anything about his needlecraft. I remember him because a student wrote a paper about him when I was student-teaching, and I checked to find out who he was. He was a football player at Alabama. It was after that that he was advertising pantyhose on tv. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:55:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43t6Bp025817 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:55:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A686F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 160879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:54 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f59.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43rsg06175 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:53:54 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:53:49 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.238 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 03:53:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.238] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 03:53:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2003 03:53:49.0235 (UTC) FILETIME=[39746030:01C3BA1A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Maybe you really did screw up, Richard. I thought you were clear, but >Adam's failure to delete your signature from my words makes me think he >also might have thought they were your words. It was I who said the >above, not Richard. Richard was quoting me from the archives. 'twas clear to me that Richard was quoting Natalie cuz I remember seeing variations of Natalie's pizza-pepperoni-squid-Thailand post many times on this service. _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 21:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB43v8Bp025898 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00205C73@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:55:55 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB43ttg06345 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:55:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204035550.DQSF1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:55:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEB047.4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031204030451.92885.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031204030451.92885.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>Do Masons still exist? I thought they were >>something of the late >>nineteenth and very early twentieth century. > > They certainly do still exist, with they're secret > oaths, degrees, eyes, and pyramids. Almost all of the > Founding Fathers were Masons. To this say, all > members of the Brit Royal family are members. They sound pretty creepy. Are they? (I did not delete mem's url -- will check it and find out more abotu them -- no time now.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 22:04:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB444FBp026270 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:04:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205D76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:03:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:02:53 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB442qg07722 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:02:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.183]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204040247.DTEH1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCEB1E9.1010302@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:02:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <20031204032620.40815.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031204032620.40815.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >> I have never in my life felt >>paranoid except on >>Words-L. I think this is a pretty clear case of why >>I might feel that >>way on Words-L. > > Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a > comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. I really don't think I'm paranoid. I can't remember any context at any time in my life when I've felt paranoid except for on Words-L. Whether it's comfoting, I don't know. The fact that I'm still on Words-L is suggestive that it must not be so bad. But I really do find it strange. And I was amused at how my words when people mistakenly put them into Richard's mouth suddenly were totally different -- no accusations of mutancy. That to me was exremely telling. Exact same words but (mistakenly) thought to be from another mouth. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 22:05:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4459Bp026305 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:05:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00205DA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:03:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:03:57 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB443ug07915 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:03:56 -0500 Received: from [68.212.201.21] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:03:49 PST Message-ID: <20031204040349.88701.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCEB047.4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > They sound pretty creepy. Are they? (I did not > delete mem's url -- > will check it and find out more abotu them -- no > time now.) "Creepy" is in the eye of the beholder. They have an ancient, interesting and tortuous history, for anyone that likes that sort of thing. These fraternal orders seem to have been an early manifestation of "man" things. The Masons, at any rate, have a distaff co-order - the Eastern Star. I fell into learning about them because of my great interest in the relationships of European royalty, 1400's - 2100's. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 3 23:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB45nsBp018089 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:49:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68C66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 0:48:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 172030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:48:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB45meg21072 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:48:40 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB45mb6V008303 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:48:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:48:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1584782142.20031203234838@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Why paying Bills Isn't Fun In-Reply-To: <20031203222749.85316.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031203222749.85316.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor >> >> But Lynne doesn't like the automaticity. And it's >> certainly not >> required. > Let's just say I'm old-fashioned Why is Natalie in there? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 00:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB461mBp018288 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68C95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 1:00:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 172518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:00:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB460Xg22194 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:00:33 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.117.2c7cee03 (17228) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:00:06 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <117.2c7cee03.2d002766@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:00:06 EST Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/3/2003 9:26:38 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a >comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. > I'm not sure I agree, but it DOES feel paranoid at times! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 00:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB465CBp018354 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:05:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68CA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 1:03:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 172848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:04:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB463xg22688 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:03:59 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB463JDQ018964 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:03:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:04:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <669475131.20031204000401@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> References: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. I do, too. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 00:06:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB466UBp018382 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:06:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68CCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 1:05:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 172927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:05:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB465Hg22851 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:05:17 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB4657rk008574 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:05:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:05:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <622963593.20031204000510@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <20031204023755.27171.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031204023755.27171.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: > And excellent bait, seriously. In this form, it does > not wiggle and has a wonderful firmness and texture. > Great for crabbing or salt water pole fishing. > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree wtf are you talking about? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 00:27:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB46RmBp019033 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:27:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68CE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 1:16:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:16:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB46GYg23746 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:16:34 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB46GK6V022998 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:16:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:16:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <139494833.20031204001622@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <669475131.20031204000401@WordWrite.com> References: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <669475131.20031204000401@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. > I do, too. oops, unclear. I, too, associate bridge with the upper crust. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 00:40:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB46ewBp019295 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:40:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A68D10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 1:39:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:39:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB46dig25274 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:39:44 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB46d4DQ010625 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:39:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:39:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <352224360.20031204003946@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: My distressing day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sometime this afternoon, my Norton Antivirus started returning an error that isn't supposed to happen with the 2003 version. The only thing you can do is delete the temp files, run Live Update, and pray. Evidently I didn't pray long enough, because I still can't get it to load. (Yes, I uninstalled it and reinstalled it--still get the same error.) I installed McAfee, which hasn't found any viruses. Still--I am seeing some very funky behaviors. I hate it when computers go bad!!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 00:51:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB46prBp019490 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 00:51:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68D45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 1:50:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:50:40 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB46odg26038 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:50:39 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120406503301600890hte>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:50:33 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031203224956.038597d0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:53:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: My distressing day In-Reply-To: <352224360.20031204003946@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Still--I am seeing some very funky behaviors. I hate it when computers go >bad!!! That's about the time I'd reformat and re-install Windows. Which makes me my VMware setup all the more... Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 01:54:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB47sYBp020470 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:54:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68E45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 2:53:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:53:21 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB47rLg32310 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:53:21 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16c.2747b1cc (17228) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16c.2747b1cc.2d0041e4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:53:08 EST Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/3/2003 9:43:16 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes: >Comforting? To who/m? Speak for yourself, B***** ------- Couldn't have said it better than that. Evil glimpse in all directions. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 02:00:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB480TBp020549 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:00:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A68E65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 2:59:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:59:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB47xGg32618 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:59:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a7.3978655b (17228) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:59:08 EST Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/3/2003 9:43:19 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > I could not get my driver's >> license on my fifteenth >> birthday since the Mississippi Highway Patrol Office >> was not open on Sunday. > --- What are you complaining about? I didn't even get a bike when I became fifteen. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 02:06:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB486EBp020651 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:06:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68E57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 3:05:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:05:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4851g00652 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:05:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cd.155bbfe9 (17228) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1cd.155bbfe9.2d004498@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:04:40 EST Subject: Re: My distressing day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/4/2003 12:39:52 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >I hate it when computers go bad!!! == Now wait a minute. Machines don't go bad; it's PEOPLE that make them misbehave. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 05:25:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4BPmBp023773 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:25:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68FF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 6:24:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:24:33 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4BOXg12154 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:24:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.75]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204112427.JWLU12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCF196C.10005@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:24:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <20031204034151.33330.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031204034151.33330.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > On the eve of my sixteenth birthday, I mailed my > application for a driver;s license to Harrisburg - > mailed it special delivery. Some postal person had > told me I could force the license people to mail it > back quickly if I enclosed a SASE, also Special > Delivery. I got the license in two days. You got your dl by mail?? Didn't you have to take tests? The MS driving age moved up from fifteen to sixteen several years ago, btw. I felt sorry for those people about to hit fifteen at that time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 05:30:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4BUuBp023880 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:30:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A68FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 6:29:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:29:41 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4BTfg12408 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:29:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.75]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204112936.JXNA12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:29:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCF1AA1.9030106@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:29:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <669475131.20031204000401@WordWrite.com> <139494833.20031204001622@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <139494833.20031204001622@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > >>On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. > >>I do, too. > > oops, unclear. I, too, associate bridge with the upper crust. I didn't think you were unclear. But I do find it mega bizarre that anybody would associate bridge with the upper crust. I have played it many times with many non-crusty people. And this was not just a Mississippi thing. The three years I lived in Florida, bunches of us in my apartment complex played bridge constantly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 05:32:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4BWdBp023904 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:32:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69010@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 6:31:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:31:25 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4BVOg12560 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:31:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.168.75]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204113119.JXWH12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCF1B08.7080405@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:31:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: >>I could not get my driver's >> >>>license on my fifteenth >>>birthday since the Mississippi Highway Patrol Office >>>was not open on Sunday. >> > --- > What are you complaining about? I didn't even get a bike when I became > fifteen. (1) I'm not complaining. (2) I've said nothing about acquiring a vehicle. Could you get a biker's license at fifteen? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 05:57:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4BvKBp024260 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:57:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002064E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 6:56:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:56:04 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Bu4g14189 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:56:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4Bu3GR004425 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 03:56:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCF2081.7090503@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 05:54:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <3FCE95FA.9000306@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > And since so many people seem to think those (all of what he quoted -- > not just that one sentence above) words were Richard's, why is nobody > accusing him of calling pepperoni a non-meat? As I've said on various > occasions before, I have never in my life felt paranoid except on > Words-L. I think this is a pretty clear case of why I might feel that > way on Words-L. Because it's a Methadone Day, so we're cutting him some slack. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 06:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4CjcBp025081 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:45:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020656B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 7:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 07:44:22 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4CiMp04741 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 07:44:22 -0500 Received: from [151.199.62.28] (account leonard@mail.bc.edu HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37507289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCF2C1C.3060607@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:44:12 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cornwell Books References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> <3FCE6AF2.5050606@maynor.net> <3FCE7405.30004@bc.edu> <3FCE9271.3010105@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FCE9271.3010105@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > And I thank you (as I did earlier in reply to the direct mail). I'm > pretty sure I haven't read it, although since writing that reply to you, > I've been thinking how a shrink was indeed involved in one of her books > I read in recent history -- as in the past couple of years. I am > thinking more and more that I did read that one. Can you tell me > something more specific than the reviews told but not something specific > enough to give away anything if I have not in fact read it? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) If you remember the shrink, you probably did read The Last Precinct. I was just flipping through the pages to see if I could find something specific to tell you. There was a conversation between Scarpetta and her shrink. They were debating the definition of "rules". I thought for a minute that I was reading a conversation between you and Bethany! That, of course, is not enough to determine if you have read the book but it did amuse me. It has been a while since I read it but Kay is out of a job; Lucy asks her to go to work for her company in New York; Kay somehow becomes a suspect in a murder. Is that enough? Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 08:20:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4EKaBp026382 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:20:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A693AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:19:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 189289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:19:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4EJJp21755 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:19:19 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:19:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778B3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Cherries Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:19:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I browsed for a bit when picking up my daily papers. Pitless, tart red cherries, Oregon brand. $4.79US for 14.5oz From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 08:33:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4EXUBp026620 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A693F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:32:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 190251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:32:14 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4EWDp24146 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:32:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4EW2EH018140 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:32:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004f01c3ba73$776021a0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031204030155.15817.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: India Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:32:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > >> Say, where's Tushar? Maybe he had to > > go back to India to get a job. > > > I started to remind you to ask Sara to keep an eye out > for him. :-) - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 08:55:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Et8Bp026878 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:55:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69488@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:53:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:53:41 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Erfp27388 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:53:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206875@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:53:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041453.hB4Erfp27388@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:53:41 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:43:24 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I believed (this dates me) that I'd never have to learn since I could turn in >> handwritten papers as an undergrad. This is not to say that I had no clue how > >I thought you were younger than I am. I'm almost sure you are. I'm >sixty. I graduated from high school in '61 and college in '65. Papers >were required to be typed when I was in college. I graduated from high school in '73 @ 16, and college in '83. I believe my extreme youth and very evident poverty may have moved profs to accept my handwritten masterpieces, in my first school. Whatever. I still have some of those papers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 08:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Ew3Bp026909 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:58:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020689B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:56:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:56:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Euhp29249 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:56:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00206896@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:56:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041456.hB4Euhp29249@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:56:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:53:13 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I know there's not much to it. I guess >> the thing I'm a little unclear on is where to >> position the jack. > > >I've been waiting for someone to mention the gizmos we >carry in our cars. You plug one into the lighter >source, and it will inflate a tire long enough to get >you to some assistance. (I fully realize that is >relative, but it could come in handy). We've never >had to use them. Maybe they don't really work, so no >one else has them (?) > Not only have, but use regularly, for basketballs, bike tires, and the like. But only a slow leak can be helped by adding air. If you blow out the sidewall against a sharp rock, or gash it on metal on the road, it's not going to reinflate. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 08:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4ExuBp026924 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:59:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A694DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:58:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:58:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4EwXp29611 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:58:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00206873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 9:58:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041458.hB4EwXp29611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:58:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:00:37 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Doris Markland wrote: >> > >> > Oh - and the ghost story with each participant >> providing a specific >> > sound effect (footsteps, creaky door, howling >> wind, ghostly moan, >> > clanking chains, etc) when they heard the key >> phrase. >> > clo >> >> >> Hey, I'd play that. Sounds like fun. >> >> - D. M. > >Especially when played in the dark, and the management >has the suitable props to pass around the circle. For >instance, peeled grapes. > Yeah, that's a thing to do as well. But my version was not meant to be scary, but rather participatory and welcoming. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:02:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4F2WBp026968 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:02:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002068B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4F1Fp30277 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002068B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:14 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:04:51 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >> >>Anything like the Masons working through the >> chairs? >> > >> > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? >> >> Do Masons still exist? I thought they were >> something of the late >> nineteenth and very early twentieth century. > >They certainly do still exist, with they're secret >oaths, degrees, eyes, and pyramids. Almost all of the >Founding Fathers were Masons. To this say, all >members of the Brit Royal family are members. > I can't believe y'all are accepting Natalie's claim to think they don't exist; she saw them at AcadiaFest! Natalie, why do you think Shriners wear funny hats and drive silly little cars? They're Masons! Also, you can see the Masonic emblem on the backs of cars everywhere: it's a compass and "rule" - a "square" ruler. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:03:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4F3ABp026976 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:03:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002068BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4F1sp30395 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002068B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041501.hB4F1sp30395@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:54 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:06:09 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Terry Wild wrote: >> > Take that sharp knife away from Wil!! >> > >> > Betty >> >> >> Yes, Ma'am!!! > >Do not let him blandish it at the teacher who gave him >"0" in spelling. > Nor brandish, neither! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:09:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4F9hBp027069 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:09:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020694A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 193933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:08:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4F8Np31886 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:08:27 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778B5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: India Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:08:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:05 PM > > I fell asleep reading on the couch last night so this is on my "to > read" > > stack, but the current issue of Business Week deals with > the issue of > > "dealing with India". I'm guessing this is dealing with the > increasing > use > > of India in the hi-tech business (frequently, if you call a help > desk - not > > your local school|business - you'll find yourself talking to someone > in > > India). > > Yes, I've had that experience. > > Say, where's Tushar? Maybe he had to > go back to India to get a job. Other articles have stated there is a heavy demand for Indians who are accent-free and they spend a considerable period of time preparing for the jobs. Some companies have a small band either abroad or local to triage the issue, then either send it to India for level 1 or to the US for level 2 (knowing it's beyond the ability of Level 1 to solve it). If Level 1 is unable to solve it, it's returned to a different triage group (for followup|analysis), then rerouted back to the US. I'm certain the phone systems carrying the phone service are happy with such systems. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:14:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FEaBp027121 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:14:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A695BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:13:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:13:20 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4FDKp00598 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:13:20 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:13:19 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:12:46 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4FEaBp027121 I remember attending a Masonic event when I was in High School. My girlfriend at the time was being intalled as "Beloved Queen" of the somethingorother (Rainbow Girls maybe?) I sort of knew about the Masons - my grandfather and my uncle were Masons - but I was totally unprepared for the minutely scripted ritual and the overblown ceremonial goings on. It was one of those moments when the vast differences in what-is-important-in-life surfaced. We stopped dating shortly after that. btw - I ran into her at the 20th reunion and she was pregnant with her 13th child. BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/04/03 10:01AM >>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:04:51 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >> >>Anything like the Masons working through the >> chairs? >> > >> > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? >> >> Do Masons still exist? I thought they were >> something of the late >> nineteenth and very early twentieth century. > >They certainly do still exist, with they're secret >oaths, degrees, eyes, and pyramids. Almost all of the >Founding Fathers were Masons. To this say, all >members of the Brit Royal family are members. > I can't believe y'all are accepting Natalie's claim to think they don't exist; she saw them at AcadiaFest! Natalie, why do you think Shriners wear funny hats and drive silly little cars? They're Masons! Also, you can see the Masonic emblem on the backs of cars everywhere: it's a compass and "rule" - a "square" ruler. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FGnBp027177 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:16:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A695DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:15:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:15:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FFWp01193 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:15:32 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:15:26 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778B6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:15:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:19 PM > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>Anything like the Masons working through the chairs? > > > > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? > > Do Masons still exist? I thought they were something of the late > nineteenth and very early twentieth century. They have a special license plate in Indiana (+$25) "MM nnnn" "MM" (fixed) then "nnnn" (up to a four-digit number). This is above & beyond the standard vanity plates where people can spell messages; e.g., "PB2AU" (lead to gold) Other organizational plates: HH nnnn (Hurryin' Hoosiers, or Indiana University); PB (Purdue Boilermakers - they don't seem fond of PU as in "pee yew" ("pyew")); "KF" (Kids First), along with a lot of other combinations for kids, such as "CF" (Children First); "WF" (Wildlife & Fish); "AT" (Arts & Theatre); "BE" (Black Expo); "BC" (Breast Cancer); "TU" (Taylor University, where I went); etc. The extra $25 is distributed to the cause. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:23:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FNSBp027267 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:23:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6962A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:22:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:22:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FMBp03001 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:22:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:22:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778B7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:21:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:31 PM > I have a good friend who plays bridge for > master points. She lives in Arkansas but > travels to bridge events and she has > played many times at the same table as > Warren Buffett. The first time I was on this list (1990-1992), I worked for a guy who was a Life Master in bridge and had a Ph.D. in BioChemistry. Those foolish enough to play with him at lunch would live with "that is one of the ten worst moves I've ever seen." He was also going through his second divorce, was trying to meet his son (first marriage) whom he'd never met as he was delivered after the divorce and he'd only made [the required] child support payments. He also didn't want to exchange anything verbally - only via email. And it wasn't for CYA, he just didn't want to talk to anyone - even if they were in the next cubicle, at the edge of his cubicle, and meetings drove him silly because he couldn't handle all of the verbal interchange. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:28:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FSRBp027320 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:28:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69664@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:27:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FR3p04289 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:27:03 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:26:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778B8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:26:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:49 PM > I vaguely > remember that it was determined that pepperoni was . I > certainly think of it as meat. And I don't remember that > there was any > serious -- as nobody was arguing anything. I'm not certain what the definition of meat is [then]. If it's something which comes from an animal, then that means pork rinds are meat as well. If there's some other definition, I'd like to know what it is. And whatever the definition is, I'm doubting if pork rinds are even edible. I bought the smallest bag I could find once and tried one. I barely made it to a trash can to spit it out - it was as bad as a deep-fried twinkie at the state fair this year. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:31:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FVeBp027388 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:31:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69678@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:30:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:30:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FUNp04908 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:30:23 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB4FTfKV006518 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:29:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:30:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1438878903.20031204093028@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: My distressing day In-Reply-To: <1cd.155bbfe9.2d004498@aol.com> References: <1cd.155bbfe9.2d004498@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/4/2003 12:39:52 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >>I hate it when computers go bad!!! > == Now wait a minute. Machines don't go bad; it's PEOPLE that make them > misbehave. With all due respect, fuck off, Theo. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:32:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FWbBp027405 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:32:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00206A51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:29:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:29:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FTVp04742 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:29:31 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB4FSmKV005431 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:28:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:29:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <273305086.20031204092935@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: My distressing day In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031203224956.038597d0@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031203224956.038597d0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, >>Still--I am seeing some very funky behaviors. I hate it when computers go >>bad!!! > That's about the time I'd reformat and re-install Windows. I know. > Which makes me my VMware setup all the more... :( Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:32:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FWbBp027404 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:32:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00206A09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:27:11 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FR8p04300 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:27:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD00E3ZMXX7S@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:27:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:22:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:22:57 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3b61593b801f.3b801f3b6159@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber > > occasions before, I have never in my life felt > > paranoid except on > > Words-L. I think this is a pretty clear case of why > > I might feel that > > way on Words-L. > > Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a > comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. I think it's just too silly for paranoia. It was an assertion about imagining some thing about pepperoni for chris'sakes! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:32:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FWbBp027403 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:32:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002069EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:21:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:21:19 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FLIp02565 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:21:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69623@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:21:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041521.hB4FLIp02565@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:21:16 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:07 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>>>I've never associated bridge with money. Cards are cheap, and you don't >>>>>have to have fancy scorepads. A piece of paper will work. >>>>>-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >>>> >>>>Whew, that's telling. >>> >>>What's telling what? >> >> Your statement tells me that you didn't appreciate the notion of bridge- >> playing ladies as being out of class from the world you inhabited. It's not >> about logic; it's about group markers. > >I'd never thought of bridge as a "group marker." But you're right that >I have never thought of "bridge-playing ladies" (or men) as being not of >my world. My parents always played bridge -- not serious bridge -- just >social bridge -- like neighbors would get together and play bridge. I >have a feeling that tv has changed some of that old culture -- the old >days when neighbors would get together to do whatever. > >>>known at least three other people -- iow, playing a game that requires >>>four is not something I've ever thought of as . >> >> I see I have to be more explicit: >> Foursome: a group of four people who regularly meet to play a game as a >> social activity. > >I don't see why you think you have to be more explicit than you were >before. Foursome to me also means four people who get together to do >something. Maybe the problem is the "regularly meet." I don't know >that a foursome has to regularly meet to be a foursome. But even if >they do meet regularly, what does that have to do with what you were >saying? I do think we may live on different planets. Four people >meeting regularly to play a game does not strike me as . No, of course, four people can meet nightly behind the bar to roll craps as well, or tip cows, or go bowling. It's not wealth-related to enjoy an activity with the same group of friends, nor is the number of people involved significant. > It strikes me as four people meeting regularly to play a game. Good. >> In my dad's case, I'm sure he could have sat in on friends' games; but he'd >> have had to learn in public. "Teaching" us let him work out strategies in >> private. > >I need to log off and go to bed. I read this last part twice and still >find it weird. How did we move from your weird-to-me idea that bridge >was somehow an activity for the to your father's need for >? Are you saying that your father had some kind of hang-up re >money? He wanted to appear to be wealthy? I'm finding this whole >bridge discussion way weird. > Good morning, and . If your parents played bridge, you of course wouldn't associate anything with it except the notion "something grownups do". I have described a divide in my hometown between people who played and did not play bridge. My dad, while not a farmer or laborer by trade, grew up as a millworker's son. His family played a different set of card games, not . As a minister, he joined organizations and went to functions where he rubbed elbows with the "professional" men in the area, and they played bridge. Where do you read ? He chose to practice and learn the game so that he would be able to take part in their activity. He chose to do that with us. By working through the complexities with other beginners, he was able to join in at something near the level his peers were playing on. Geez, Natalie. If you moved someplace where people played, eg, a complex game like MahJong and you had not seen it before and didn't know the rules, I betcha you'd google it and then imftatl to get a notion of how it's played, providing you were interested in joining the group. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:33:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FXPBp027417 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:33:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206A7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:32:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FW8p05297 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:32:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206A7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:32:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041532.hB4FW8p05297@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:32:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:03:49 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> They sound pretty creepy. Are they? (I did not >> delete mem's url -- >> will check it and find out more abotu them -- no >> time now.) > >"Creepy" is in the eye of the beholder. They have an >ancient, interesting and tortuous history, for anyone >that likes that sort of thing. These fraternal orders >seem to have been an early manifestation of "man" >things. The Masons, at any rate, have a distaff >co-order - the Eastern Star. "Man" things, yes, and in a sense proto-Unions as well. Also Utopian in vision - believing that working together would make them better people, and more able to improve the world. Most fraternal orders have favorite charities. Masons have orphanages, old-age homes, and raise money for sensory disabilities (deaf/blind), among other things. Shriners - a specific level of Mason which you have to pay whopping fees to join - raise money for childrens' hospitals. My mother is Eastern Star; my brothers mercifully escaped DeMoLay Boys, but my younger sisters grew up in a town with Rainbow Girls and joined that (this is the Boy and Girl orgs, respectively; but the town I grew up in was too small and rural to support that many orgs). What was active in my hometown, and is now nearing extinction in many places, was Grange - the Patrons of Husbandry, which (unlike Masons) had male and female members who could hold office. Modeled after Masons, it was a Union/Fraternity born during the Populist movement, and was an extremely positive force in rural communities. It worked/still works actively to increase educational opportunities, raise the standard of living, lobby for political reforms, as well as providing a social center for a geographically isolated group. I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level as well. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:40:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FehBp027519 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:40:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A696F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:39:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:39:25 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FdPp07424 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:39:25 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD006I3NGRDY@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:34:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:34:52 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB4FdPp07426 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Phil Paxton > > I vaguely > > remember that it was determined that pepperoni was . > I > > certainly think of it as meat. And I don't remember that > > there was any > > serious -- as nobody was arguing anything. > > I'm not certain what the definition of meat is [then]. If it's > somethingwhich comes from an animal, then that means pork rinds > are meat as well. How about we just call them "meat products" and call it even? Here's something sure to gross you out: Sweet Cinnamon & Butter Crunchies - Box of 12, 4-oz Bags >From Gram's Gourmet, these are tender tasty pork rinds flavored with cinnamon and butter and sweetened with Splenda®. Now order them by the case and save! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:44:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FijBp027579 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:44:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A696F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:43:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:43:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FhDp08075 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:43:13 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:43:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778B9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:43:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:10 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > Her biggest fear is she'll retire and later feel as if she > regrets it > > after-the-fact. She doesn't want a seat reserved at the > bridge table for > > Would unretiring not be possible? It is here. I am not > interested. I > also today when my dept head asked me if I > would consider > teaching a couple of English lit survey classes next semester. He's > getting kind of desperate, but I don't see it as *really* desperate. > Anybody can teach sophomore lit courses, and I feel sure that with > enough schedule-shuffling and combing the streets for possible > lecturers, that problem can be solved. The primary method of preventing a teacher from returning? $$$$$ (even if there's a shortage) UL or not, it was said the school corporation wanted to reduce the headcount of those who had enough seniority that paying one of them could easily pay for two (or more) entry-level teachers. My mother's principal decided his way of doing so would be to move her around to a different grade every year possible (and told her as much). So she was moved from 3rd to 5th, to 4th, then when the principal didn't cover his political back end within the corporation carefully, she got to move back to 3rd, which is where she really likes it. The students really start blossoming in their learning - they really start to see how fun reading can be, how interesting math can be, etc. I even wrote a little step-by-step for her to do with the kids to find out what day of the week they were born on (without realizing how far they were in math because I couldn't benchmark where I was at that age). It seemed to work out fine and the kids were really delighted with that exercise. When visiting, I've also stepped in and juggled five balls for them and that delights them - I know three would be fun for them but when it's five... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:47:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FlZBp027644 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:47:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69716@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:46:16 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FkFp08742 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4Fk6Ob6201576 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:46:06 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:46:06 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031203213035.GA8741@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031203213035.GA8741@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, steph wrote: > = A potato po' boy (with gravy), WHOA NELLY! > See, now you are getting complicated. Gravy is complicated? > = half french fries, half sucking pig. > and even more complicated. O.K., you've got me here; roast baby pig is not exactly a pantry staple. -- Richard, Tony C.'s on cracklins, heart attack city From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:48:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FmuBp027660 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:48:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69749@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Fldp09237 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206B0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:29:37 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >> On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>On Wednesday, December 03, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> >>>>I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. >> >>>I do, too. >> >> oops, unclear. I, too, associate bridge with the upper crust. > >I didn't think you were unclear. But I do find it mega bizarre that >anybody would associate bridge with the upper crust. I have played it >many times with many non-crusty people. And this was not just a >Mississippi thing. The three years I lived in Florida, bunches of us in >my apartment complex played bridge constantly. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Natalie, a lot of things have changed over time. I play bridge too - that's a corollary of my childhood experience. But even though I'm not "crusty" in appearance, behavior, or attitudes, I am now a person with a family income that is approximately 15X what my father earned when he was raising us. Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? Once the GI bill and Pell grants made college accessible to people like my dad and me, all sorts of designations of class became murkier. My father learning to play bridge because he was associating with townsfolk who wore white collars because he was able to go to college on the GI bill and become a minister is a pretty good example of this. Had my dad not moved up the ladder socially by getting a white-collar education (though not white-collar pay!), I would not have learned bridge. I have learned poker. But I would never have seen anyone who played bridge except on tv, where they were carefully coiffed ladies who could afford makeup and stockings and clothes without darns and stains - a set of images you might have seen as , but that's because you come from a different layer of society, yourself. Please, don't attempt to think of bridge as being "upper crust" on my account. The thought experiment isn't worth the effort. Just accept that it was so in world. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:49:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Fn3Bp027663 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:49:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:46 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Flkp09309 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:46 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4FlfOb6660340 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:47:41 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:47:41 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <3FCE77F5.800@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <004601c3b9c5$4bbcdbf0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <306318961.20031203114651@WordWrite.com> <3FCE77F5.800@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > ? Doesn't sound confused to me. Why would I have said "actually" and > "now that I think about it" if I had not thought that pepperoni was > meat? That was the point -- that there was no confusion in your mind as of 13-Oct-1996. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FnABp027666 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:49:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6974C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:54 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Flrp09378 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:54 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:47:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > As for whatever article you are quoting from (I don't know what SI.com > is), they can stick it up their snide and condescending asses. (That > isn't a comment about football. MSU has always sucked in fb -- in all > sports except baseball, in fact. It's a comment about their > comment re > Starkville. I realize, of course, that they are simply > saying that the > football situation is stark, but it comes across somehow as more than > that. And, as one who could live anywhere in the world I damn well > choose but happen to choose to live in Starkville, I find the comment > offensive.) > > I just looked back at what I wrote and realized I disagree with the > football part also. Although MSU sux in fb, how can anybody say it is > the suckiest in the SEC? Vanderbilt is still in the SEC. What has MSU done occasionally well in? Hoops? Haven't they made the big dance several times over the last few years? Besides, what's SI.com supposed to say about a school? They're going to be athleticly focused. Let'em say what they want. Anyone who plays sports is not likely to play very long at the next level anyway. Academics is something everyone would|should carry with them the remainder of their life. My hair has started to thin and I had a co-worker make a comment the other day. I responded with, "Well, if you want to waste your hormones growing hair..." (he had to walk away in defeat - he had no comeback) The same can be applied to the sports-related issues... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:52:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FqDBp027710 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:52:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00206B2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:50:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:50:56 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Foup10203 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:50:56 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4FopOb3055706 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:50:51 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:50:51 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [PMX:##] Re: [spam] Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCEAFAD.5000702@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031204024811.64488.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCEAFAD.5000702@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, on Namath nylon: >I don't know whether he truly wore them. As I rememeber the story, the whole team wore them during subzero games. -- panty fetish? no, its strictly a comfort thing From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FtcBp027747 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:55:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6979A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FsLp10882 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00206B4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:54:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041554.hB4FsLp10882@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:12:46 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I remember attending a Masonic event when I was in High School. My girlfriend at the time was being intalled as "Beloved Queen" of the somethingorother (Rainbow Girls maybe?) I sort of knew about the Masons - my grandfather and my uncle were Masons - but I was totally unprepared for the minutely scripted ritual and the overblown ceremonial goings on. It was one of those moments when the vast differences in what-is-important-in-life surfaced. We stopped dating shortly after that. btw - I ran into her at the 20th reunion and she was pregnant with her 13th child. > >BrP Very cool. Just think how much fun you could have had raising all those kids though! fwiw, even though I am awash in Masonic exposure, note that I am neither Eastern Star nor anything else that I have not been dragged into kicking and screaming. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 09:56:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4FuiBp027765 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:56:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A697AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:55:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:55:24 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4FtJp11167 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:55:24 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4FtEOb6307982 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:55:15 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:55:14 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <3FCEB1E9.1010302@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031204032620.40815.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCEB1E9.1010302@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Exact same words but (mistakenly) thought to be from another mouth. That's because I have a beautiful voice. Hip-moe-tozzes, it does. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:00:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G02Bp027869 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:00:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A697B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:58:45 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Fwjp11984 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:58:45 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:58:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:58:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:21 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > There was a lot of publicity in the athletic sectors > recently because > > Mississippi State hired an African American coach. > > I noticed that in news stories I saw -- not so much local ones but the > ones from AP or whoever. It has sounded to me like something > out of the > '50s or '60s. What's all the hooplah about race? The NCAA has only gotten past having AA QBs in the previous ten or twenty years (give or take some wiggle room). They haven't gotten past AA QBs in the NFL - it's still a sore spot. And it's still a *very* open wound for AA coaches at both the NCAA and NFL levels. Interestingly, it's not a problem for the NCAA basketball program for coaches; at least, compared to football, and the NBA is considerably better off than the NFL, but it's still a touchy issue. There was a made-for-tv movie called "The White Tiger"/"Grambling's White Tiger" (???) about a white athlete who attended Grambling (the Tigers?) on a football scholarship, suffering discrimination. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:01:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G1TBp027878 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:01:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A697CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:00:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:00:12 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4G0Cp12366 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:00:12 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4G09EH024100 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:00:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01c3ba7f$cb327380$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Need Xmas Help Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4G1TBp027878 Once again I call on my computer savvy WL friends for help. I am composing an email Xmas card and I want it to play Xmas music. I found a site with some neat stuff and want to use a Manheim Steamroller number from there. They say we can download, but I don't know how to do it. Would someone take a look and see if it can be done and maybe tell me how? http://deckernet.com/shed/steam.htm#usage Thanks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:03:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G3SBp027897 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:03:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69802@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:02:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:02:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4G23p12978 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:02:03 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB4G206V020722 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:02:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:02:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5710542108.20031204100204@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? This is one of the problems I have been wrestling with. I do not think like a poor person, even though I am. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G4oBp027947 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:04:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A697FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:03:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:03:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4G3Up13570 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:03:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4G3EW1020779 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:03:14 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4G3DWq020749; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:03:13 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:58:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCE6FD9.5010706@maynor.net> References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:20 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > >>>Why are you flying into Phoenix? Dec. 8 is a good date. I can't >>>remember why now exactly, but it rings bells in my head as being good. >> >>We are going to visit Gene's brother . . also several >>other friends who live there. > >Sounds fun. And I still don't remember why Dec. 8 rings a bell with me >as being . Hmm. Maybe that was the date of my PhD. I didn't go >to the ceremony, but I remember that it was something like Dec. 8 or 10 >or so. Dr. Maynor, good luck finding Santa a decent chair today. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:05:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G5MBp027951 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:05:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6981E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:04:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:04:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4G45p13947 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:04:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4G43eO021289 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:04:03 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4G42a2021259; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:04:02 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075856.00b66990@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:59:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <3FCE7991.2010902@maynor.net> References: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:02 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >>seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. > >My ex-husband always made the crust -- excellent whole-wheat crust. He >was a great pizza-maker. You should have kept him just for that! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:06:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G6iBp027960 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:06:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69831@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:05:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:05:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4G5Rp14373 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:05:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4G5NW1023619 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:05:23 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4G5MWq023609; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:05:23 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075938.00b642a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 08:00:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCE7B47.8050705@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:09 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Phil Paxton wrote: > >>Her biggest fear is she'll retire and later feel as if she regrets it >>after-the-fact. She doesn't want a seat reserved at the bridge table for > >Would unretiring not be possible? It is here. I am not interested. I >also today when my dept head asked me if I would consider >teaching a couple of English lit survey classes next semester. He's >getting kind of desperate, but I don't see it as *really* desperate. >Anybody can teach sophomore lit courses, and I feel sure that with >enough schedule-shuffling and combing the streets for possible >lecturers, that problem can be solved. You're getting the hang of it! Will you teach any classes next semester? Just don't do any summer classes. Places to go and people to see! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:09:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4G9iBp027989 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:09:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69847@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:08:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:08:27 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4G8Rp15037 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:08:27 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPDOJF01.N0T for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:02:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3FCF5C65.6E92CC11@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:10:13 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200312041532.hB4FW8p05297@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many > other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level > as well. > > clo "Now if you'll beg my pardon I'll go out and start a garden. It'll just be small potatoes; some lettuce, and tomatoes. If anything comes up we'll join the Grange! What say you and I get normal for a change?" - Martin Mull JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:16:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4GG4Bp028142 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:16:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206C0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:14:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:14:41 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4GEGp15824 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:14:17 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:14:11 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL: academic discounts for software Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:14:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:33 PM > For my friend the teacher, where's the best place to buy > software (e.g., > Microsoft Office) with an academic discount? > > academicsuperstore.com has the Office 2003 Student & Teacher > Edition for > $139.95; Microsoft has it direct for $149.00. http://tinyurl.com/xpqt: $125.76 Interested in something really inexpensive (volumewise)? http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/actionpack /actionpack_standard.aspx This is known as an "Action Pack" subscription from Microsoft. It's $400/year. Some of it looks to be overkill, but you consider ten licenses for Office 2003 Professional and ten licenses for Windows XP Professional ($200 each?), how long does it take to pay off the $400 in the savings? I started mine in June (I wasn't aware of it until a friend turned me on to it) and they had a discount coupon which discounted the $400/year to $99/year. I've got mine configured for my business at home, but there are a lot of people who would kill for less. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4GHpBp028166 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:17:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69889@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:16:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:16:31 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.msstate.edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4GEsp15951 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:14:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net (ws113-89.lee.msstate.edu [130.18.89.113]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id hB4GEswi021528 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:14:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCF5D7D.79DAFD82@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:14:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: WHITE DOG ALERT! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I see him! http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:24:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4GOjBp028250 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:24:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00206C2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4GNSp17335 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:23:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:22:59 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: WHITE DOG ALERT! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4GOjBp028250 Whose statue is that that he's hanging around? BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 12/04/03 11:14AM >>> I think I see him! http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4GTCBp028282 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:29:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6990B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4GRlp18315 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:48 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:15 PM > >> I also would not learn to type. No one ever suggested that > I learn to wait > > > >It never occurred to me to associate learning to type with where one > >might someday work. Among my family and friends it was considered > >necessary since otherwise you'd have a hassle turning in > papers in college. > > I believed (this dates me) that I'd never have to learn since How so? I could turn mine in handwritten but I was also known as "The Human Microfiche" and told if I didn't write larger (I used a 0.3mm Pentel pencil) I'd be docked points just like people who submitted incorrect material. > I could turn in > handwritten papers as an undergrad. This is not to say that I > had no clue how > to type; I can almost date myself on this one. I had had no exposure to computers [yet] and my mother claims she didn't foresee the need coming but strongly suggested I take typing my sophomore year of high school. I took a full year and it's paid off in many ways. I had the ability to turn in papers typed, I had the ability to type papers for others (for favors to be collected at a future date or $, whichever I felt was more valuable from the individual), I could code a lot faster at a keyboard - except the extra keys slowed me down a bit, and finally, if something happened and all I had was hardcopy (or we had hardcopy from a book), I could prop it up and let my fingers do the walking. My first job out of college was at a local hospital. The vendor for the hospital's mainframe software was known for coming in like stormtroopers, demanding passwords of any level they chose, etc. - a blank check. They also believed heavily in OJT (On-the-Job Training). People would be on site and know nothing about the product. I'd had enough one day when I had to listen to one of them using a jack hammer on her keyboard in the next cubicle. I went to our reserve of spares, went to her cube, opened it up (it was brand new) and presented it to her. "What's this for?" "You seemed to be having problems with your keyboard - as though the keys don't work and you're having to pound them to get them to work. I brought you a new one so you won't have to do that. If you have any other problems like this, please let me know." Fortunately, she got the message. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:40:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4GeEBp028406 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:40:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206CE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:38:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:38:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Gcdp20342 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:38:39 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:38:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:38:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:17 PM > At first I thought, "what was your comment?" But pretty quickly I > remembered (I think): you don't like green peppers but you > like anchovies. A couple (brothers) of my teammates (soccer) from the Philippines ordered pizza for us....once. Downfall: double anchovies. They were never allowed to contribute to the item inventory thereafter. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:41:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4GfVBp028420 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:41:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69980@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:40:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:40:14 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4GeEp20614 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:40:14 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD009Z4QALM1@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:35:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:35:49 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: One more pizza thing To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <41b44541de35.41de3541b445@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, Another thing I wanted to reply to but couldn't (reasons unclear): Re John's Pizza, they don't sell slices. Pies only. So it will only be of use to you if you are not alone. However, there are many good slice places in the city -- one favorite is Joe's at the corner of Bleecker and 6th Avenue. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 10:46:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Gk8Bp028491 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:46:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00206D0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:44:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:44:50 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Ginp21362 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:44:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:44:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BF@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:44:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Terry Wild [mailto:twild@URI.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:37 PM > Oh, no, those zero tolerance policies extend to everything, including > chicken nuggets. Be careful what you point! Speaking of which (nuggets), I've got a bone to pick with Chez Ronald. I know of times past they would advertise the nuggets were white meat (many years ago), then stopped doing so. Now, they're doing so again. (remember these are the "Speed Limit 55 / Big Mac: $0.55" folks) Does this mean the other times they were not white meat, or did I dream the first time and they are now white meat? I don't knowingly eat dark meat of chickens or turkeys. And I know you can take dark meat (of either) and "bleach" it (not truly bleach it but it has the same effect). I know the only reason it's dark is because that part of the body got used quite a bit. If you put a turkey or a chicken in some situation where they'd use their wings on a fairly frequent basis - say, strap their feet down and have something which pops up and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark meat wings intead of the usual white meat. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:07:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4H6xBp028766 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:07:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69AA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:05:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:05:41 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4H5fp26778 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:05:41 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:05:35 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:05:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >They certainly do still exist, with they're secret >oaths, degrees, eyes, and pyramids. Almost all of the >Founding Fathers were Masons. To this say, all >members of the Brit Royal family are members. (make your life easier: use the advanced search to get 100 hits/page) Google #1: all words: "mason underwear mormon" Google #2: all words: "freemason" exact phrase: "royal family" In the case of Google #2, you can use "mason" instead of "freemason" but you get all of the names "Mason" (e.g., Timothy) which clutters the return. In the case of Google #1, "mason" is enough. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:13:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HDTBp028875 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:13:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69ACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:12:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:12:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HCBp27766 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:12:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: My distressing day Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:12:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Which makes me my VMware setup all the more... I attended a local WUG (Windows Users Group) a week or two ago (mostly to see what they were giving away - the first time, they passed out copies of Server 2003 Server with a twenty-five seat license). This time, it was software which expires in 180 days. They were discussing Virtual Server, VirtualPC, VMWare, etc. I used to run VMWare - about the time Microsoft found out how nice it was to send a dog & pony act into the field and demo all of the various machines running on a single box and everything could be displayed at will. There were rumors VirtualPC/Server would not support Linux, but I saw RedHat et al loaded & running. I also saw Microsoft Bob, which I haven't seen outside of a CD at home in a long, long time. When he mentioned it, I was in the first row and asked, "Who was the project manager for Microsoft Bob?" (Deer in the Headlights) "I don't know." (From the back of the room): "Anyone who knows that deserves a t-shirt!" (me) "Melinda French. We now know her as Mrs. Bill Gates." I have no idea where I picked that up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HLcBp028977 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:21:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69B11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:20:21 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HKLp28941 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:20:21 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:20:15 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:20:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB4HKLp28942 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:35 AM > From: Phil Paxton > > > I vaguely > > > remember that it was determined that pepperoni was . > > I > > > certainly think of it as meat. And I don't remember that > > > there was any > > > serious -- as nobody was arguing anything. > > > > I'm not certain what the definition of meat is [then]. If it's > > somethingwhich comes from an animal, then that means pork rinds > > are meat as well. > > How about we just call them "meat products" and call it even? > > Here's something sure to gross you out: > > Sweet Cinnamon & Butter Crunchies - Box of 12, 4-oz Bags > From Gram's Gourmet, these are tender tasty pork rinds > flavored with cinnamon and butter and sweetened with > Splenda®. Now order them by the case and save! Yuck. It's a good thing I don't do dinosaur calls very easily (I'm the one who usually walks in on someone ralphing and holds their forehead and chest to 1) make it easier; 2) make them less sore the next day or two because the muscles don't work so hard. I read a story in the Chicago Tribune (probably five or six years ago) in the Tempo section which went into great detail regarding pork rinds - the history, how they're made, etc. I don't usually care what goes into a product and in this case I didn't - it was after that [that] I tried a sample. Another situation of acquired tastes not falling into my lifestyle. I believe #41 and #43 are both big rind fans with tobasco sauce. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:26:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HQTBp029031 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:26:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69B1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HPCp29540 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:12 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: My distressing day Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:40 AM > Sometime this afternoon, my Norton Antivirus started returning an > error that isn't supposed to happen with the 2003 version. The only > thing you can do is delete the temp files, run Live Update, and pray. > Evidently I didn't pray long enough, because I still can't get it to > load. (Yes, I uninstalled it and reinstalled it--still get the same > error.) > > I installed McAfee, which hasn't found any viruses. Still--I am seeing > some very funky behaviors. I hate it when computers go bad!!! Have you tried to run some spyware (first) to see if something ominous has been loaded onto your machine and is playing havoc? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:27:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HQxBp029051 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69B1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:41 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HPfp29564 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4HPdL2022300 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:25:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3ba8b$bc5ae5c0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BF@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:26:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Speaking of which (nuggets), I've got a bone to pick with Chez Ronald. I > know of times past they would advertise the nuggets were white meat (many > years ago), then stopped doing so. Now, they're doing so again. (remember > these are the "Speed Limit 55 / Big Mac: $0.55" folks) Does this mean the > other times they were not white meat, or did I dream the first time and they > are now white meat? I've heard the ad recently saying they are now white meat. Don't know what they were before. White meat may work best for nuggets, but for general chicken-eating I prefer the dark meat. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:27:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HR9Bp029058 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:27:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69B31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:51 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HPop29576 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:25:51 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D83412B901; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF622B61A for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:25:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:25:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: numbers! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Numbers from 1 - 10 in over 4500 languages: http://www.zompist.com/numbers.shtml Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HSKBp029083 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:28:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00206E81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:27:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:27:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HR2p29887 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:27:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:26:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:13 AM > I remember attending a Masonic event when I was in High ... > what-is-important-in-life surfaced. We stopped dating > shortly after that. btw - I ran into her at the 20th > reunion and she was pregnant with her 13th child. Any chance there's a connection to one of the two Google runs I posted in another message (#1, I believe) ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:29:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HTrBp029107 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:29:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00206E91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:28:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:28:35 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HSZp30120 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:28:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00206E62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:28:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041728.hB4HSZp30120@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:28:35 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:10:13 -0700, John Williams wrote: >> >> I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many >> other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level >> as well. >> >> clo > > "Now if you'll beg my pardon > I'll go out and start a garden. > It'll just be small potatoes; > some lettuce, and tomatoes. > If anything comes up we'll join the Grange! > What say you and I get normal for a change?" > > - Martin Mull > >JMW Are you saying I was ? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:33:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HWuBp029154 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:32:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69B5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 207707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:38 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HVcp30499 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:38 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4HVXOb7528670 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:31:33 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:31:33 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > They haven't gotten past AA QBs in > the NFL - it's still a sore spot. Only for morons like Rush Limbaugh. -- Flavor "We got a black quarterback, so step back!" Flav From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:37:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HbdBp029218 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:37:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69B6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:36:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:36:22 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4HaMp31583 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:36:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 30184 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2003 17:36:17 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-14.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2003 17:36:17 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45716EDF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:36:17 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070559377!916501 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:36:18 -0500 Message-ID: <004201c3ba8d$1fbd98a0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB4HaMp31585 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of mene tekel parsin >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:32 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > > >On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> They haven't gotten past AA QBs in >> the NFL - it's still a sore spot. > >Only for morons like Rush Limbaugh. > >-- >Flavor "We got a black quarterback, so step back!" Flav > Rush got Donovan McNabb angry and ready to play. I love it. Bring on Dallas. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:40:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4He3Bp029269 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:40:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69B9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:38:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:38:45 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Hcjp32121 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:38:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4HchL2018483 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:38:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3ba8d$8f9704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Headlines Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4He3Bp029269 "Gwyneth Paltrow pregnant with rock boyfriend" reads my running headline thingee. Like I really needed to know that right now. Look for pictures to follow (for months and months) of yet another huge naked belly protruding above low riders. Like I really needed to see this. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HiABp029328 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69BB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:42:52 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Hgqp00433 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:42:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69B98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:42:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041742.hB4Hgqp00433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:42:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Headlines To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:39:25 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >"Gwyneth Paltrow pregnant with rock boyfriend" >reads my running headline thingee. Like I really >needed to know that right now. Look for pictures >to follow (for months and months) of yet another >huge naked belly protruding above low riders. >Like I really needed to see this. > > - D. M. I am intrigued. I know they can determine sex w/ a simple test, but how can they tell the child will grow up to be a "rock boyfriend"? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:47:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HlcBp029393 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:47:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69C3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:46:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:46:20 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HkKp01907 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:46:20 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4HkFOb9379898 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:46:15 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:46:15 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! In-Reply-To: <004201c3ba8d$1fbd98a0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Message-ID: References: <004201c3ba8d$1fbd98a0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alec: > Rush got Donovan McNabb angry and ready to play. Well, _somebody_ sure did. Who *was* that guy wearing McNabb's uniform in the first two games? > I love it. Bring on Dallas. Can the Tuna! -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:51:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Hp2Bp029442 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:51:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69C55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:49:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Hnhp02555 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:49:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:49:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:26 PM > I've heard the ad recently saying they > are now white meat. Don't know what > they were before. I think the fast food places are fighting tooth-and-nail again (more than usual). There aren't as many kid-related movies so there aren't as many gimmick toys for everyone to collect. People don't have to eat out (for ease) so they don't [and likely save money]. There are now places which can outperform McDonald's. One of them is Culver's. Research in some business reports has shown when Culver's and Chez Ronald are in close proximity, Culver's wins nearly every time. Culver's has a broader menu, food fixed when you order it - so it takes four or five minutes but it's always fresh & hot - and so on. I first read about them in the Chicago Tribune, looked them up online and went to the nearest one - and have since been hooked and notice when the word is on the page when I'm reading. Fortunately, the nearest one is only about fifteen or twenty minutes away but it inconveniences me because of the road repair - making me less likely to go there so often. Traditionally, fast food restaurants could build a unit as part of "Restaurant Row" and no one would be hurt - there always seemed to be room for one more. I've noticed in my various regional travels this is no longer the case. There will be a common fast food base with one missing, signs & lettering stripped (so no one can associate failure with an operation) although you can tell which store it was. One of the things McDonald's has failed as an ongoing effort is to (article from ~ 1999/2000) increase sales to the group they call "adults" - and this is the only word they use to denote them. They state over & over & over their attempts to increase the adult segment of their business has met with "less than expected success." Their problem is the labelling. They aren't having problems attracting adults. They're having a problem attracting non-parents (or parents /s kids). They get plenty of business from "parents" (if you define "parents" to mean adults who have kids in attendence [with them]). This type of misunderstanding, such as I mentioned with the "55mph - Hey! people will think 55 cent Big Macs!" shows they have some wrong people pushing the buttons, pulling the levers and turning the dials. And this is precisely what they are seeing flat (or worse) sales. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:53:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HriBp029497 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:53:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00206F4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:52:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:52:19 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4HqJp03003 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:52:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 14011 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2003 17:52:11 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-9.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2003 17:52:11 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6FC148E for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:52:11 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070560331!943058 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: <004301c3ba8f$58aabce0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of mene tekel parsin >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:46 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > > >alec: >> Rush got Donovan McNabb angry and ready to play. > >Well, _somebody_ sure did. Who *was* >that guy wearing McNabb's uniform in >the first two games? > His mom or somebody who was not into the game. >> I love it. Bring on Dallas. > >Can the Tuna! > >-- >Richard > alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 11:55:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4HtXBp029511 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:55:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69C53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:54:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:54:14 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4HsEp03255 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:54:14 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:54:09 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:53:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: mene tekel parsin [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:32 PM > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > They haven't gotten past AA QBs in > > the NFL - it's still a sore spot. > > Only for morons like Rush Limbaugh. I think you're missing the point. Having an African American QB or coach in the NFL gets plenty of news from common news sources, not Rush, even to the point of ", who is just one of African-Americans in the NFL." Even by the broadcasters as part of the game. They should be beyond it, but it's still a strong bit of their patter. fill in name total number Quarterback / Head Coach From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:02:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4I2FBp029615 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:02:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69CB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:00:58 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4I0up04549 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:00:56 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001A5D; 4 Dec 03 13:11:31 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 4 Dec 03 13:11:21 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001A5C; 4 Dec 03 13:11:21 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:57:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: For Ann Borkin Message-ID: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2003120 4/FACTS04/TPComment/Features From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:23:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4INoBp029949 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:23:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69DA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:22:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:22:32 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4IMW209016 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:22:32 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD009GGV0ZRC@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Phil Paxton > and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark meat wings > intead of the usual white meat. Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" being considered white meat but not the other wing part -- the two boned section is most definitely dark. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:24:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IOoBp029956 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:24:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002070B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:23:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:23:32 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4INV209230 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:23:32 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD00CM1V39QU@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:18:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:18:36 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I love this!!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Go EAGLES! (I still have some loyalties...) Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 12:52 pm Subject: Re: I love this!!! > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of mene tekel parsin > >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:46 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > > > > > >alec: > >> Rush got Donovan McNabb angry and ready to play. > > > >Well, _somebody_ sure did. Who *was* > >that guy wearing McNabb's uniform in > >the first two games? > > > > His mom or somebody who was not into the game. > > > >> I love it. Bring on Dallas. > > > >Can the Tuna! > > > >-- > >Richard > > > > alec > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. For more information on a proactive email security > service working around the clock, around the globe, visit > http://www.messagelabs.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:29:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IT2Bp030005 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:29:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69DC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:27:44 -0500 Received: from mail42.messagelabs.com (mail42.messagelabs.com [38.118.4.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4IRi209827 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:27:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 19652 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2003 18:27:39 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-15.tower-42.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 4 Dec 2003 18:27:39 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E49714A5 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:27:39 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-15.tower-42.messagelabs.com!1070562459!943142 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I love this!!! Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01c3ba94$4d0698f0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Giants or Jets are not worth watching. The Flyers are looking hot early on too. alec ps I love top posting. >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:19 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > > >Go EAGLES! (I still have some loyalties...) > >Marie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" >Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 12:52 pm >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: English Language Discussion Group >> >[WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of mene tekel parsin >> >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:46 PM >> >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >Subject: Re: I love this!!! >> > >> > >> >alec: >> >> Rush got Donovan McNabb angry and ready to play. >> > >> >Well, _somebody_ sure did. Who *was* >> >that guy wearing McNabb's uniform in >> >the first two games? >> > >> >> His mom or somebody who was not into the game. >> >> >> >> I love it. Bring on Dallas. >> > >> >Can the Tuna! >> > >> >-- >> >Richard >> > >> >> alec >> ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:31:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IV8Bp030073 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69DD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:29:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:29:50 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4ITo210399 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:29:50 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002070B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:29:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200312041829.hB4ITo210399@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:29:50 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >From: Phil Paxton >> and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark meat wings >> intead of the usual white meat. > >Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" being considered white meat but not the other wing part -- the two boned section is most definitely dark. > >Marie afik, the breast is white meat. All else is dark. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:33:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IXMBp030101 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:33:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69DE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:32:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:32:04 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4IW3210835 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:32:03 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4IVwOb3244206 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:58 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil: > Even by the broadcasters as part of the game. As I said, for morons like Rush Limbaugh. > They should be beyond it, but it's still > a strong bit of their patter. They're sub-literate ex-jocks filling dead air. I wouldn't call that the NFL's AA "sore spot". (That'd be the SCANDALOUS paucity of black punters.) I'm warning you, we don't want me quoting Public Enemy songs again. -- Cold looking for that hero From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:38:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IbsBp030175 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:38:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69DEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:36:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:36:35 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4IaZ211842 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:36:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-173.gwi.net [216.195.150.173]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4IaXGn024084 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:36:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204133451.00b2db88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:36:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: <34aaa834db8d.34db8d34aaa8@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > We got enough of a dusting to be a surprise to wake up to and a > > little slippery on the stairs. Laszlo's first snow -- he seemed to > > like it. He rain. > > > > Marie > >Actually, now it's snowing ! >Marie The Boston Globe had pictures of the huge traffic snarl on Tuesday morning. But we had nothing in Maine. We are now safely home, well fed, well-liquored, and having dropped some coin at L.L.Bean. It looks like this weekend's Nor'easter will go south of us also. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:38:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IcuBp030206 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:38:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69E10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:37 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Ibb212005 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:37 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU wings are white. Everything above the waist is typically considered white & below, dark. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:18 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two things > > > From: Phil Paxton > > and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark > meat wings > > intead of the usual white meat. > > Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" > being considered white meat but not the other wing part -- > the two boned section is most definitely dark. > > Marie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:42:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4IgNBp030258 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:42:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69E12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:41:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:41:05 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4If4212622 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:41:04 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 9C3732B90D; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FFF2B8F9 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:41:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2003120 > 4/FACTS04/TPComment/Features Interesting but I think this is more for bonniev, really. My take is either this girl is lying or she is -really- weird, crying because she can't choose mascara? JEEZ give me a break. Well, I can't navigate more than one big store in a day, either, actually. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 12:51:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Ip2Bp030387 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:51:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69E6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:49:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:49:44 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4Ini214701 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:49:44 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:49:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:49:34 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Two things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4Ip2Bp030387 necks are dark BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/04/03 01:37PM >>> wings are white. Everything above the waist is typically considered white & below, dark. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:18 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two things > > > From: Phil Paxton > > and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark > meat wings > > intead of the usual white meat. > > Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" > being considered white meat but not the other wing part -- > the two boned section is most definitely dark. > > Marie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:01:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4J17Bp030554 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:01:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69EAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:59:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:59:49 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Ixm216354 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:59:49 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:59:43 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:59:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU they're also mostly gizzard/innards. I don't eat that stuff. Sweetmeats & I weren't made for each other. > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:50 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two things > > > necks are dark > > BrP > > > >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/04/03 01:37PM >>> > wings are white. Everything above the waist is typically > considered white & > below, dark. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:18 PM > > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Two things > > > > > > From: Phil Paxton > > > and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark > > meat wings > > > intead of the usual white meat. > > > > Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" > > being considered white meat but not the other wing part -- > > the two boned section is most definitely dark. > > > > Marie > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4J2kBp030600 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:02:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69EB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:01:28 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4J1S216657 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:01:28 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:01:13 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:01:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:56 PM > steph writes, > > >Hmmm. Dreamweaver UltraDev 1.0 I can view a lot of things, but > >not those three. > > MX is nice. I've used it for multi-page sites or to play > around with CSS > or table stuff. > > You can download a 30-day trial version from Macromedia to > see what you're > missing. IIRC, there's a brand-new MX magazine on the shelves proclaiming Edition 1.1! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:04:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4J4dBp030624 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:04:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69EC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4J3J217125 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4J3HW1014837 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:03:18 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4J3EWq014739; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:03:16 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204105807.00b7b920@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:58:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:01 AM 12/4/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:04:51 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > > >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > >> > >> >>Anything like the Masons working through the > >> chairs? > >> > > >> > Probably very like. Are you a Mason? > >> > >> Do Masons still exist? I thought they were > >> something of the late > >> nineteenth and very early twentieth century. > > > >They certainly do still exist, with they're secret > >oaths, degrees, eyes, and pyramids. Almost all of the > >Founding Fathers were Masons. To this say, all > >members of the Brit Royal family are members. > > > >I can't believe y'all are accepting Natalie's claim >to think they don't exist; she saw them at AcadiaFest! >Natalie, why do you think Shriners wear funny hats >and drive silly little cars? They're Masons! >Also, you can see the Masonic emblem on the backs >of cars everywhere: it's a compass and "rule" - >a "square" ruler. > >clo Yes! They had cool cars! Paul and I wanted to drive one. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:05:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4J5FBp030631 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:05:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69EC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Irv215461 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:53:57 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4Iqn61027999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:52:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:53:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCEAB6B.9080307@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312040235.hB42Zag30501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCEAB6B.9080307@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'd never thought of bridge as a "group marker." But you're right that >I have never thought of "bridge-playing ladies" (or men) as being not of >my world. My parents always played bridge -- not serious bridge -- just >social bridge -- like neighbors would get together and play bridge. I >have a feeling that tv has changed some of that old culture -- the old >days when neighbors would get together to do whatever. My parents played 42. (I played dominoes but did not learn 42.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:12:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JC3Bp030714 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:12:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69F00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:10:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:10:44 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4JAh218802 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:10:43 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:10:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:10:41 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4JC3Bp030714 Well, we each wanted to drive one. BrP >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 12/04/03 01:58PM >>> >I can't believe y'all are accepting Natalie's claim >to think they don't exist; she saw them at AcadiaFest! >Natalie, why do you think Shriners wear funny hats >and drive silly little cars? They're Masons! >Also, you can see the Masonic emblem on the backs >of cars everywhere: it's a compass and "rule" - >a "square" ruler. > >clo Yes! They had cool cars! Paul and I wanted to drive one. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:15:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JFGBp030776 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:15:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69F16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:13:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:13:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4J3w217269 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:58 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4J2o61031272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:02:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:03:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >they're also mostly gizzard/innards. I don't eat that stuff. Sweetmeats & I >weren't made for each other. Sweetbreads? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JFpBp030786 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:16:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69F0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:14:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:14:32 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JEW219543 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:14:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4JETL2000266 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:14:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3ba9a$f09f2f80$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001c01c3ba7f$cb327380$dbcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Need Xmas Help Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:15:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Once again I call on my computer savvy WL friends for help. Never mind. Figured it out. That is, I downloaded it and am able to put it in an email as an attachment, but did not find a way to have it open and play as the message is opened. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:17:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JHWBp030819 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:17:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69F32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:16:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:16:14 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JGD220020 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:16:13 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:16:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:14 PM > different in Jackson. You had to have one. By the time we were in > about the third grade, we all had found a way to figure out the day of > the week our fifteenth birthday would fall on. And I had enormous > sympathy since mine fell on a SUNDAY. That was one of the My modified form of Zoeller's Congruence (for 1900s): 1. Last two digits of the year __ __ __ 2. Divide by four, ignore remainder __ __ __ 3. Add the day of the month __ __ __ [4.] Add the "month code (below): __ __ __ *January 0, 1 *February 3, 4 March 4 April 0 May 2 June 5 July 0 August 3 September 6 October 1 November 4 December 6 5. Sum lines 1-4: __ __ __ 6. Divide by 7: __ __ __ 7: Remainder: __ 8. Use the remainder to determine: 1: Sunday 2: Monday 3: Tuesday 4: Wednesday 5: Thursday 6: Friday 0: Saturday I step #4 above, use 1 and 4, respectively for all years except Leap Year. Use 0, and 3, respectively for Leap Year. For the 2000s, you'll need to add 6 as part of step 5. Technically, you could use the 6 elsewhere, but when dealing with people of varying math backgrounds... Anyway, this served as as a sample of "Teaching People Something" speeches in high school & college for public speaking. The person "in charge" (teacher, professor) would usually be too busy calculating their own birthdays than to keep notes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:20:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JJxBp030848 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:20:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69F2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:18:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:18:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JIe220447 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:18:40 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:18:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:03 PM > of mutancy. That to me was exremely telling. Exact same words but Curiosity question (from the Words-L type of fun) - seriously: what does "exact same" or "same exact" serve which "same" or "the same" does not? I have heard it in movies from the 60s and 70s so I know it's not horribly old. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JLTBp030861 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:21:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A69F44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:20:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:20:10 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JKA220771 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:20:10 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:20:04 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D6@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:20:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:54 PM > My parents played 42. (I played dominoes but did not learn 42.) I don't remember how to play any more, but one of the stores my maternal grandfather would frequent had people playing "sniff" a lot (dominoes) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:23:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JNnBp030897 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:23:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69F5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JMU221141 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:30 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:04 PM > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >they're also mostly gizzard/innards. I don't eat that > stuff. Sweetmeats & I > >weren't made for each other. > > Sweetbreads? Yes. Point taken. I think I know enough plants I could eat to avoid those organs. I've dressed chickens & turkeys before (when I was much, much younger) on my grandparents' farms but any more, if I had to kill what I wanted/needed to eat, I'd be vegetarian; not vegan, as I'd drink milk and eat eggs, but even if someone else did the dirty work, I wouldn't eat those organs. Ick. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:24:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JNxBp030901 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:24:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A69F46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:22:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JCe219219 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:12:40 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4JBW61001480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:11:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:12:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> Message-ID: References: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >How about we just call them "meat products" and call it even? Here's one for you. are banned at HH. When I saw the notice, I thought, "What? What is a live tree?" It is one with roots still attached, right? A cut fir is a dead tree, right? So do they mean tree? Nah - a plastic tree is a real tree, just one made of plastic, not nature's green. It's trees they want to ban - right? Because they are fire hazards. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:31:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JVHBp031033 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:31:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A69F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:29:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:29:57 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4JTu222574 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:29:56 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:29:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:29:26 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4JVHBp031033 Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which they were born? Maybe I have an atypical group of friends (I can hear Karen laughing even as I type these words) but I'm pretty sure that most of my friends could tell you without calculating it. In some cultures it's a very important piece of information (e.g. Ghana ) BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/04/03 02:16PM >>> My modified form of Zoeller's Congruence (for 1900s): 1. Last two digits of the year __ __ __ 2. Divide by four, ignore remainder __ __ __ 3. Add the day of the month __ __ __ [4.] Add the "month code (below): __ __ __ etc. Anyway, this served as as a sample of "Teaching People Something" speeches in high school & college for public speaking. The person "in charge" (teacher, professor) would usually be too busy calculating their own birthdays than to keep notes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:37:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JbHBp031083 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A014@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:35:56 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4JZu224372 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:35:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-173.gwi.net [216.195.150.173]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4JZsAr019304 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:35:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204143155.00b2db10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:35:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash In-Reply-To: <3FCD3475.4010704@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >today to buy milk and noticed a Patricia Cornwall book named ... lemme >go look ... named _Portrait of a Killer_ with Jack the Ripper mentioned >in a subtitle. I bought it since that did not sound familiar -- did not >sound like something I'd read before. Have I? It's not the one some of >y'all have been talking about lately, is it? I think not since it was >published in 2002. I'm guessing that y'all have been talking about one >still in hardback only. -- Natalie That's the book where Cornwall claims to have solved the mystery of who Jack the Ripper was. It's not fiction. Her conclusions have not been widely accepted. But she claims to have done all kinds of sleuth work and figured it all out. By the way, when I got to the end of the latest Scarpetta novel (yes, it's in hardback), I was sooo disappointed. But then I remembered how I always feel that way when reading Cornwall. It is very disconcerting to be able to see that there are only about twenty pages left in the book and yet lots of the story is left to be told. She rushes through her endings. Another thing I realized is that her books aren't much of a mystery. You know who the killer is all along. It's only a matter of just how the killer will be apprehended. Sometimes they aren't. Remind me to stop reading these stupid novels. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:37:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JbKBp031087 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:37:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A031@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:36:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:36:02 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Ja1224426 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:36:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.122]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPDY5I00.A45 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:29:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3FCF8D10.3CE30885@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:37:52 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > wings are white. Everything above the waist is typically considered white & > below, dark. Birds got *waists*??? My, my, my... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:50:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JoOBp031318 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:50:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A098@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4Jn5226910 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:48:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:48:49 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Two things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4JoOBp031318 My college choir director used to say "The only excuse for repition is emphasis" He said it over and over. BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/04/03 02:18PM >>> > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:03 PM > of mutancy. That to me was exremely telling. Exact same words but Curiosity question (from the Words-L type of fun) - seriously: what does "exact same" or "same exact" serve which "same" or "the same" does not? I have heard it in movies from the 60s and 70s so I know it's not horribly old. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:51:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Jp2Bp031329 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:51:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00207373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Jnh226998 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:37 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:49:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:29 PM > Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which > they were born? Maybe I have an atypical group of friends (I > can hear Karen laughing even as I type these words) but I'm > pretty sure that most of my friends could tell you without > calculating it. In some cultures it's a very important piece > of information (e.g. Ghana ) "Kofi" means "Male Child born on a Friday" A friend of mine & I used to use it as a bar line. He'd engage them into a conversation and after awhile, I'd point out they couldn't be old enough to know about topic . The trick is to get the driver's license out of the purse/wallet. Next, it's "Do you know why they take your license back to their car? The card is sealed but it's got the day of the week you were born on on it. They take it back to their car and place it under that light. If the writing isn't there or the day of the week is wrong - either it's sealed improperly or they changed the date such that the day of the week doesn't match any more, they know it's fake. They would usually say, "No way!" Then it's "well, sometimes you can see it, 'just so' under lights." A couple of looks at arm's length and turn it around a bit (to see the birthday) and "You were born on a Thursday." "How did you know that?" We could easily move to the bar and sit back watching a nice-sized group trying to look for it ("oh, I think I kind of see it") A couple of others usually would come join us about how it worked or to try it out on their license. It was more successful than using origami to show George Washington in his underwear (with a $1 bill) or juggling five pool balls on a bet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 13:55:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4JtPBp031388 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:55:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A0BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:54:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:54:07 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4Js6228110 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:54:06 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:54:06 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:53:56 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4JtPBp031388 I am 'Yao" - "born on thursday" BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/04/03 02:49PM >>> > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:29 PM > Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which > they were born? Maybe I have an atypical group of friends (I > can hear Karen laughing even as I type these words) but I'm > pretty sure that most of my friends could tell you without > calculating it. In some cultures it's a very important piece > of information (e.g. Ghana ) "Kofi" means "Male Child born on a Friday" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:00:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4K0HBp031481 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:00:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A0FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:58:51 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Jwo229222 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:58:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD006A3ZIMI0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:53:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:53:45 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1924f1a1b0.1a1b01924f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The Boston Globe had pictures of the huge traffic snarl on Tuesday > morning. But we had nothing in Maine. We are now safely home, > well fed, > well-liquored, and having dropped some coin at L.L.Bean. It > looks like > this weekend's Nor'easter will go south of us also. They are calling for 3-6" here starting tomorrow. Tuesdays stuff was only a dusting, but it's been so cold that it's still there in many places -- like my backyard. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:02:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4K2dBp031533 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:02:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020740C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:01:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:01:20 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4K1K229814 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:01:20 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD00MYUZLLEJ@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:56:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:56:19 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1e39a1e678.1e6781e39a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clo: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500, Marie Ascher > <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET>wrote: > >From: Phil Paxton > >> and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark > meat wings > >> intead of the usual white meat. > > > >Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" being > considered white meat but not the other wing part -- the two boned > sectionis most definitely dark. > > > afik, the breast is white meat. All else is dark. That's the way I've always seen it. Phil, where do you get your "above" the waist theory? Wing meat is tender moist dark stuff, not the dry white stuff. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:07:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4K71Bp031603 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:07:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207433@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:05:43 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4K5d230742 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:05:39 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD0081NZQRMP@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:59:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:59:16 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: I love this!!! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1d22d190e4.190e41d22d@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You kinky boy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 1:27 pm Subject: Re: I love this!!! > ps I love top posting. > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher > >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:19 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > > > > > >Go EAGLES! (I still have some loyalties...) > > > >Marie > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Alec D. Plotkin" > >Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 12:52 pm > >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: English Language Discussion Group > >> >[WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of mene tekel parsin > >> >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:46 PM > >> >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> >Subject: Re: I love this!!! > >> > > >> > > >> >alec: > >> >> Rush got Donovan McNabb angry and ready to play. > >> > > >> >Well, _somebody_ sure did. Who *was* > >> >that guy wearing McNabb's uniform in > >> >the first two games? > >> > > >> > >> His mom or somebody who was not into the game. > >> > >> > >> >> I love it. Bring on Dallas. > >> > > >> >Can the Tuna! > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Richard > >> > > >> > >> alec > >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. For more information on a proactive email security > service working around the clock, around the globe, visit > http://www.messagelabs.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KAbBp031629 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A151@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:09:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:09:18 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4K9I231509 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:09:18 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPD00KTLZYYS3@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:04:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:04:00 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ec7d1a7d6.1a7d61ec7d@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know I was born on a Wednesday. I also know that my mother was born on a Friday. FWIW. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Barfoot Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:29 pm Subject: Re: Knitting > Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which they > were born? Maybe I have an atypical group of friends (I can hear > Karen laughing even as I type these words) but I'm pretty sure > that most of my friends could tell you without calculating it. In > some cultures it's a very important piece of information (e.g. > Ghana ) > > > BrP > > > > >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/04/03 02:16PM >>> > My modified form of Zoeller's Congruence (for 1900s): > > 1. Last two digits of the year __ __ __ > 2. Divide by four, ignore remainder __ __ __ > 3. Add the day of the month __ __ __ > [4.] Add the "month code (below): __ __ __ > > etc. > > > Anyway, this served as as a sample of "Teaching People Something" > speechesin high school & college for public speaking. The person > "in charge" > (teacher, professor) would usually be too busy calculating their own > birthdays than to keep notes. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:15:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KFZBp031716 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:15:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207477@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4KEG232399 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:16 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:56 PM > > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500, Marie Ascher > > <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET>wrote: > > >From: Phil Paxton > > >> and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark > > meat wings > > >> intead of the usual white meat. > > > > > >Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" being > > considered white meat but not the other wing part -- the two boned > > sectionis most definitely dark. > > > > > afik, the breast is white meat. All else is dark. > > That's the way I've always seen it. Phil, where do you get > your "above" the waist theory? Wing meat is tender moist dark > stuff, not the dry white stuff. I'm just going by what I was taught growing up. The bottom line for me is I won't eat anything which is dark meat. I've been in situations (e.g., going through the line as part of some function) and someone is ready to put chicken on the plate after I've passed roast beef, pork, etc. I look to see what it is. If I say, "White meat only, please" some are real twerps about it and say, "Sorry, we can't honor specific requests", then I just ask for my plate and eat the other stuff on it. I know I'm a finicky eater and know that's "bad" to some people, but that's the way I am. And if it means I have to skip a meal, then that's the way it works out. My paternal grandparents were of the ilk, "you'll sit there until you eat it." My kid sister & I would always outlast them. And it would never fail -- they'd hate to go to bed knowing we were sitting at the dinner table. My maternal grandparents didn't feed us junk, but we'd eat chicken/turkey, salad (french dressing only, please), corn, etc. There are lots of things I will eat - it's just a matter of understanding what they are and how I like them cooked. I'm also capable of eating the same thing every meal every day. There's also background on my grandparents. My paternal had a "Bunker" household: he'd say, "Stifle" (or close to it) and that was it. Confrontation was the rule. My mom said she never knew how to argue until she married her ex because she didn't have an example growing up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:32:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KW2Bp031970 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:32:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207518@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:30:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:30:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4KUh203250 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:30:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207513@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:30:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200312042030.hB4KUh203250@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:30:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:04:00 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >I know I was born on a Wednesday. I also know that my mother was born on a Friday. FWIW. > >Marie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul Barfoot >Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:29 pm >Subject: Re: Knitting > >> Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which they >> were born? Maybe I have an atypical group of friends (I can hear >> Karen laughing even as I type these words) but I'm pretty sure >> that most of my friends could tell you without calculating it. In >> some cultures it's a very important piece of information (e.g. >> Ghana ) >> >> >> BrP My Dad left the hospital to go preach a sermon; I was born on Sunday evening. The announcement was a pink "bulletin"; I gave the homily: "Behold, I come". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:32:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KWiBp031994 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:32:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A233@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:31:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:31:25 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4KVP203450 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:31:25 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:31:19 PST Message-ID: <20031204203119.92938.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCF196C.10005@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > You got your dl by mail?? Didn't you have to take > tests? The MS > driving age moved up from fifteen to sixteen several > years ago, btw. I > felt sorry for those people about to hit fifteen at > that time. No, sorry, permit. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KYoBp032035 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:34:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A23E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:33:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:33:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4KXW203906 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:33:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207531@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:33:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312042033.hB4KXW203906@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:33:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:09 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:56 PM > >> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500, Marie Ascher >> > <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET>wrote: >> > >From: Phil Paxton >> > >> and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark >> > meat wings >> > >> intead of the usual white meat. >> > > >> > >Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" being >> > considered white meat but not the other wing part -- the two boned >> > sectionis most definitely dark. >> > > >> > afik, the breast is white meat. All else is dark. >> >> That's the way I've always seen it. Phil, where do you get >> your "above" the waist theory? Wing meat is tender moist dark >> stuff, not the dry white stuff. > >I'm just going by what I was taught growing up. > >The bottom line for me is I won't eat anything which is dark meat. This explains everything. Somebody lied to you in order to convince you to eat more parts of the bird. So you've been eating dark meat all this time with no ill effects whatsoever. Anyway, you've made countless people who grew up fighting over the drumstick happy with your choice. clo > I've >been in situations (e.g., going through the line as part of some function) >and someone is ready to put chicken on the plate after I've passed roast >beef, pork, etc. I look to see what it is. If I say, "White meat only, >please" some are real twerps about it and say, "Sorry, we can't honor >specific requests", then I just ask for my plate and eat the other stuff on >it. I know I'm a finicky eater and know that's "bad" to some people, but >that's the way I am. And if it means I have to skip a meal, then that's the >way it works out. My paternal grandparents were of the ilk, "you'll sit >there until you eat it." My kid sister & I would always outlast them. And >it would never fail -- they'd hate to go to bed knowing we were sitting at >the dinner table. My maternal grandparents didn't feed us junk, but we'd >eat chicken/turkey, salad (french dressing only, please), corn, etc. There >are lots of things I will eat - it's just a matter of understanding what >they are and how I like them cooked. I'm also capable of eating the same >thing every meal every day. There's also background on my grandparents. My >paternal had a "Bunker" household: he'd say, "Stifle" (or close to it) and >that was it. Confrontation was the rule. My mom said she never knew how to >argue until she married her ex because she didn't have an example growing >up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:36:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KaMBp032050 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00207508@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:35:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4KZ3204217 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:35:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4KZ12f000306 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:35:01 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4KZ0JC032668; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:35:01 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204123003.00b46688@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:30:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: References: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:12 PM 12/4/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >How about we just call them "meat products" and call it even? > >Here's one for you. are banned at HH. When I saw the notice, >I thought, "What? What is a live tree?" It is one with roots still >attached, right? A cut fir is a dead tree, right? > >So do they mean tree? Nah - a plastic tree is a real tree, just >one made of plastic, not nature's green. > >It's trees they want to ban - right? Because they are fire >hazards. You are very smart. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:38:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KcoBp032087 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:38:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:37:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:37:32 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4KbV204615 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:37:31 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DF@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:37:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:34 PM > >The bottom line for me is I won't eat anything which is dark meat. > > This explains everything. Somebody lied to you in order to > convince you > to eat more parts of the bird. So you've been eating dark > meat all this > time with no ill effects whatsoever. Anyway, you've made > countless people > who grew up fighting over the drumstick happy with your choice. Whatever it's called, I like eating the white, light, soft meat. And I don't eat with both hands. I use a hand and a fork. This has gone on as far back as anyone in the family can remember my knowing how to use a fork. That way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by picking them up. I use utensils for those as well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:44:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KiXBp032157 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:44:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A281@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:43:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 224901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:43:14 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4KhE205588 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:43:14 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:43:08 PST Message-ID: <20031204204308.96851.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:43:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312041501.hB4F1sp30395@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Nor brandish, neither! > clo Blandish is showier. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:47:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KliBp032200 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:47:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A285@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:46:25 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4KkP206027 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:46:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4KkLL2024966 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:46:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3baa7$c6cf8760$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312040235.hB42Zag30501@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCEAB6B.9080307@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:47:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My parents played 42. (I played dominoes but did not learn 42.) > > Bethany My parents played 500. Gene and I played bridge when we were in our 30-40's. Since then we enjoy games that are simpler, like Spades or dominoes or board games. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 14:57:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4KvlBp032370 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:57:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A2D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:56:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:56:28 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4KuS208047 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:56:28 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:35:42 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:35:22 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB4KvlBp032370 How totally appropriate of you. PKs know how to fit in right from the start! BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/04/03 03:30PM >>> My Dad left the hospital to go preach a sermon; I was born on Sunday evening. The announcement was a pink "bulletin"; I gave the homily: "Behold, I come". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 15:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4LCTBp032607 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:12:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A36B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:11:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:11:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4LBA211632 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:11:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4LB7L2020971 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:11:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01c3baab$3c50ad40$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312041742.hB4Hgqp00433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Headlines Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:11:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >"Gwyneth Paltrow pregnant with rock boyfriend" > >reads my running headline thingee. Like I really > >needed to know that right now. Look for pictures > >to follow (for months and months) of yet another > >huge naked belly protruding above low riders. > >Like I really needed to see this. > > > > - D. M. > > I am intrigued. I know they can determine sex w/ a simple test, but > how can they tell the child will grow up to be a "rock boyfriend"? > > clo That was my first thought too, and then I worked it around in my mind to read "Gwyneth Paltrow, together with her rock boyfriend, are creating a baby." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 15:15:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4LFEBp032652 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:15:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00207676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:13:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:12:59 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4LCw212612 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:12:59 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB4LCvkF011539 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:57 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB4LCvgb011537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:57 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:56 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things Message-ID: <20031204211256.GA11520@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DF@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DF@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by picking them up. = I use utensils for those as well. You must be Dutch. They'll eat peanut butter on bread with a knife and fork! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 15:20:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4LKDBp032716 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:20:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A44B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:18:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4LIj214161 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:18:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:18:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:18:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:13 PM > = way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by > picking them up. > = I use utensils for those as well. > > You must be Dutch. They'll eat peanut butter on bread with a > knife and fork! How about a fluffernutter? (peanut butter and marshmallow creme) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 15:26:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4LQOBp000369 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:26:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A49F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:25:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:25:05 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4LP5216052 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:25:05 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4LP2L2005674 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:25:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002501c3baad$2e114c60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:25:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The bottom line for me is I won't eat anything which is dark meat. I've > been in situations (e.g., going through the line as part of some function) > and someone is ready to put chicken on the plate after I've passed roast > beef, pork, etc. I look to see what it is. If I say, "White meat only, > please" some are real twerps about it and say, "Sorry, we can't honor > specific requests", then I just ask for my plate and eat the other stuff on > it. I know I'm a finicky eater and know that's "bad" to some people, but > that's the way I am. And if it means I have to skip a meal, then that's the > way it works out. My paternal grandparents were of the ilk, "you'll sit > there until you eat it." My kid sister & I would always outlast them. And > it would never fail -- they'd hate to go to bed knowing we were sitting at > the dinner table. My maternal grandparents didn't feed us junk, but we'd > eat chicken/turkey, salad (french dressing only, please), corn, etc. There > are lots of things I will eat - it's just a matter of understanding what > they are and how I like them cooked. I'm also capable of eating the same > thing every meal every day. All things edible are good. It's just that to each of us, some things are better than others, meaning we all have preferences. Now, the interesting thing is most of us didn't actually choose all of our preferences or our dislikes. We inherited them by observing what our parents liked and didn't like. This is an easy thing to see when you've watched 4 generations come along. Sometimes adults realize this and try foods they had seldom tasted because of their parents, and find that they really do like them. I hate to see parents manipulate their kids through food. "Sit there until you eat everything on your plate" is so often ordered by a parent who loaded the plate for the child, using his own appetite and his own taste as a guideline. As a Great Grandma this is the hardest thing for me to watch and to keep my mouth shut. My rule was that a child was encouraged to take some of everything but was allowed to eat more of things he liked best, less of things he liked least, and then to quit when he was full. Making a fuss about food creates a person who will make a fuss about his food and make kids who fuss about their food, in one way or another. To eat and to enjoy one's food should not be that big a deal. For most of us there's plenty to go around, and in places where there isn't they would be glad to have food, much less all our choices. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 15:36:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4LaSBp000586 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:36:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A4FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:35:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:35:09 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4LZ9217607 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:35:09 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120421350001100508dbe>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:35:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204132437.0383c420@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:36:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: IMFTATL: academic discounts for software In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BC@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks, clo! Thanks, Phil! Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 15:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4LeqBp000662 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:40:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002077B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:39:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:39:33 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4LdW218769 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:39:33 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4LcZhA017143 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hB4LcYiY006263 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:38:35 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:38:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How totally appropriate of you. PKs know how to fit in right from the start! This confused me for a few seconds. To me, PKs are player-killers -- players in online fantasy games who attack their fellow players instead of killing dragons and such. "Preachers' kids", I assume. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:09:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4M9JBp001145 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:09:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A6FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:08:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:08:00 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4M7x224892 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:07:59 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4M7uut020227 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:07:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001a01c3bab3$2c56bc60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001c01c3ba7f$cb327380$dbcadece@0018079268> <000e01c3ba9a$f09f2f80$dbcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Need Xmas Help Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:08:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Once again I call on my computer savvy WL friends for help. > > Never mind. Figured it out. That is, > I downloaded it and am able to put it > in an email as an attachment, but did not > find a way to have it open and play > as the message is opened. > > - D. M. > Okay, I figured that out too. Can do all of the above with MS Home Publisher, but it won't let me write a very long email. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:14:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MEaBp001225 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:14:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020794D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:17 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MDH226172 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:17 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4MDCOb7545000 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:13:12 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:13:12 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <002501c3baad$2e114c60$dbcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <002501c3baad$2e114c60$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M.: > All things edible are good. Mark(land) 7:19! -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:15:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MFGBp001248 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:15:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A730@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:56 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MDu226299 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204221351.RQLW1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:13:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFB1A0.9000703@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:13:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Cornwell Books References: <20031203034812.4001.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FCDCC6A.9040506@maynor.net> <3FCDD713.1060908@bc.edu> <3FCE6AF2.5050606@maynor.net> <3FCE7405.30004@bc.edu> <3FCE9271.3010105@maynor.net> <3FCF2C1C.3060607@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FCF2C1C.3060607@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > If you remember the shrink, you probably did read The Last Precinct. I I do remember a shrink. > was just flipping through the pages to see if I could find something > specific to tell you. There was a conversation between Scarpetta and > her shrink. They were debating the definition of "rules". I thought > for a minute that I was reading a conversation between you and Bethany! > That, of course, is not enough to determine if you have read the book > but it did amuse me. > > It has been a while since I read it but Kay is out of a job; Lucy asks > her to go to work for her company in New York; Kay somehow becomes a > suspect in a murder. Is that enough? This all sounds familiar. I feel sure I've read it. If I see it on a rack somewhere, I'll glance inside and then know for absolute sure. Usually the first sentence tells me whether it's one I've already read. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:21:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4ML4Bp001300 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:21:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A74E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:19:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:19:45 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MJi227291 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:19:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204221939.RSXE1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:19:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFB2FD.9070208@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:19:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>Do Masons still exist? I thought they were >>>something of the late >>>nineteenth and very early twentieth century. > > I can't believe y'all are accepting Natalie's claim > to think they don't exist; she saw them at AcadiaFest! > Natalie, why do you think Shriners wear funny hats > and drive silly little cars? They're Masons! My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to me that they're Masons?) > Also, you can see the Masonic emblem on the backs > of cars everywhere: it's a compass and "rule" - > a "square" ruler. I have quite likely seen such an emblem but wouldn't have had any reason to know what it was. I do remember that there's some kind of emblem on the front of an old brick building in Jackson (the one no doubt that was involved in my grandfather's funeral march) that says "Masonic Lodge" in old letters over its door, but ever since I can remember, there has been another sign on that building that says something else -- some kind of mission thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:24:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MOeBp001370 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:24:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:23:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:23:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MNK227858 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:23:20 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4MNIeO014171 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:23:18 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4MNHa2014147; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:23:18 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204141733.00b79458@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:18:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: IMFTATL: academic discounts for software In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204132437.0383c420@mail.istori.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BC@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:36 PM 12/4/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Thanks, clo! Thanks, Phil! > >Pete I checked and you have to be staff or student here to take advantage of the educational discounts given at our store. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MPtBp001379 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:25:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A78A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:24:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:24:36 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MOZ228032 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:24:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204222430.RUZL1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFB420.1080307@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:24:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312041521.hB4FLIp02565@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312041521.hB4FLIp02565@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Where do you read ? He chose to practice and learn the game so that > he would be able to take part in their activity. He chose to do that with > us. By working through the complexities with other beginners, he was able > to join in at something near the level his peers were playing on. > Geez, Natalie. Sorry I misunderstood what you wrote. It was this part -- not wanting to learn "in public" -- wanting to work out strategies "in private": >>>In my dad's case, I'm sure he could have sat in on friends' games; but> > he'd >>>have had to learn in public. "Teaching" us let him work out strategies in >>>private. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:28:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MScBp001443 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:28:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A785@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:18 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MRD228310 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204222707.RWAL1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFB4BD.3090003@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:27:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <3b61593b801f.3b801f3b6159@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <3b61593b801f.3b801f3b6159@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Lynne Weber > >>>occasions before, I have never in my life felt >>>paranoid except on >>>Words-L. I think this is a pretty clear case of why >>>I might feel that >>>way on Words-L. >> >>Much of the world is paranoid, but yours is a >>comforting sort of paranoia. Stay with it. > > I think it's just too silly for paranoia. It was an assertion about imagining some thing about pepperoni for chris'sakes! The paranoia is in noticing that if what I said about pepperoni is thought to have been said by somebody else, then it magically is no longer considered mutant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:29:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MT3Bp001452 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:29:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A7A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:43 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MRh228361 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:27:43 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4MRc2f018036 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:27:38 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB4MRbJC018011; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:27:38 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204142216.00b52e60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:22:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:38 PM 12/4/2003 -0800, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > How totally appropriate of you. PKs know how to fit in right from the > start! > >This confused me for a few seconds. To me, PKs are player-killers -- >players in online fantasy games who attack their fellow players instead of >killing dragons and such. > >"Preachers' kids", I assume. > >Ben Yes. They were my playmates. No one suspected a thing. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MfUBp001601 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:41:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A817@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:10 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Me9230718 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:09 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-173.gwi.net [216.195.150.173]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4Me5Av054273; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204173404.00b57160@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:36:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCFB2FD.9070208@maynor.net> References: <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:19 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I >had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why >would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to >me that they're Masons?) They are not exactly the same thing. Shriners have moved up through the Masonic system (no, I don't understand just how this happens, but it does). So, all Shriners are Masons; not all Masons are Shriners. And as far as I know, only Shriners get to wear those funny hats. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MfWBp001602 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:41:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A820@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MeB230725 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-173.gwi.net [216.195.150.173]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4Me5Ax054273; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:40:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204173650.00b66c30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:37:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:38 PM 12/4/2003 -0800, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >"Preachers' kids", I assume. Yes. There are now a couple on the list, who occasionally wax nostalgic... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Ml0Bp001705 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:47:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:45:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:45:41 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Mjf231601 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:45:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207A43@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:45:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200312042245.hB4Mjf231601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:45:40 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 Phil wrote: >= way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by picking them up. >= I use utensils for those as well. But which hand, my friend, ?!!! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MmCBp001723 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:48:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A855@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:46:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:46:52 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Mkq231836 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:46:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204224647.IWZB1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:46:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFB959.1060504@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:46:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:29:37 -0600, Natalie Maynor > wrote: >>I didn't think you were unclear. But I do find it mega bizarre that >>anybody would associate bridge with the upper crust. I have played it >>many times with many non-crusty people. And this was not just a >>Mississippi thing. The three years I lived in Florida, bunches of us in >>my apartment complex played bridge constantly. >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Natalie, a lot of things have changed over time. I play bridge too - that's > a corollary of my childhood experience. But even though I'm not "crusty" > in appearance, behavior, or attitudes, I am now a person with a family > income that is approximately 15X what my father earned when he was > raising us. Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? Once Why is this addressed to me? The topic morph is fine -- I like them. I was just wondering what it had to do with my comments about never having associated bridge with one's social class. > Please, don't attempt to think of bridge as being "upper crust" on my > account. The thought experiment isn't worth the effort. Just accept that > it was so in world. Yes, you have convinced me of that. I think one reason I find the idea strange of a town's having a division between those who played bridge and those who didn't is that I grew up in a city. Maybe people in South Jackson didn't play bridge. There wouldn't have been any particular reason/way for me to know what they did or didn't do for recreation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:48:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MmYBp001727 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:48:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:47:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MlF231918 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:47:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207A52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:47:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200312042247.hB4MlF231918@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:47:14 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:38:34 -0800, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >> How totally appropriate of you. PKs know how to fit in right from the start! > >This confused me for a few seconds. To me, PKs are player-killers -- >players in online fantasy games who attack their fellow players instead of >killing dragons and such. > >"Preachers' kids", I assume. > >Ben Ben, I adore your thought process. I have always felt that "TO" (theological offspring) suited me better, and you reinforce my determination! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:52:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MqGBp001771 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:52:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A86A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:50:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:50:57 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Mou232388 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:50:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204225051.IYZD1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:50:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFBA4D.9050705@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:50:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > What has MSU done occasionally well in? Hoops? Haven't they made the big > dance several times over the last few years? Baseball is the only sport MSU is consistently pretty good in. Sure, the basketball team sometimes gets into that huge number of teams in the NCAA tournament. But it doesn't usually go very far. And sure the football team goes to minor bowls fairly often. But not to major ones. I think the tennis team has won various honors at times but isn't famous. Etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:52:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MqUBp001775 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:52:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MpA232442 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207A6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200312042251.hB4MpA232442@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:36:26 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 04:19 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I >>had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why >>would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to >>me that they're Masons?) > >They are not exactly the same thing. Shriners have moved up through the >Masonic system (no, I don't understand just how this happens, but it >does). So, all Shriners are Masons; not all Masons are Shriners. And as >far as I know, only Shriners get to wear those funny hats. > >cwv Masons work through degrees of membership to increasingly select circles; the first 4 get you into basic "citizenship" (voting, holding office, knowing the secret codes, etc.). Each succeeding "degree" includes more responsibility and higher dues. Shriners are something like - oh, 56th degree; the highest I know of is Scottish Rite, which I think is 70th. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:57:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MvKBp001828 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:57:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A883@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:56:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:55:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Mtr200614 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:55:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00207A55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:55:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200312042255.hB4Mtr200614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:55:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:46:49 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 05:29:37 -0600, Natalie Maynor >> wrote: > >>>I didn't think you were unclear. But I do find it mega bizarre that >>>anybody would associate bridge with the upper crust. I have played it >>>many times with many non-crusty people. And this was not just a >>>Mississippi thing. The three years I lived in Florida, bunches of us in >>>my apartment complex played bridge constantly. >>>-- >>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >> Natalie, a lot of things have changed over time. I play bridge too - that's >> a corollary of my childhood experience. But even though I'm not "crusty" >> in appearance, behavior, or attitudes, I am now a person with a family >> income that is approximately 15X what my father earned when he was >> raising us. Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income >> assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? Once > >Why is this addressed to me? A friendly gesture. Note that I have not in general jumped on the "mutant" bandwagon; please don't think I was irritated. You and I were the principle discussants at that point, and I acknowledged it. > The topic morph is fine -- I like them. I >was just wondering what it had to do with my comments about never having >associated bridge with one's social class. > >> Please, don't attempt to think of bridge as being "upper crust" on my >> account. The thought experiment isn't worth the effort. Just accept that >> it was so in world. > >Yes, you have convinced me of that. I think one reason I find the idea >strange of a town's having a division between those who played bridge >and those who didn't is that I grew up in a city. Maybe people in South >Jackson didn't play bridge. There wouldn't have been any particular >reason/way for me to know what they did or didn't do for recreation. > This seems like one of many perfectly good reasons for not being conscious of class distinctions when a child. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 16:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4MvpBp001837 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:57:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A874@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:56:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:56:31 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4MuV200749 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:56:31 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ec.14be2427 (4380) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:56:22 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ec.14be2427.2d011596@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:56:22 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/4/2003 2:10:05 PM Central Standard Time, 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET writes: << I know I was born on a Wednesday. I also know that my mother was born on a Friday. FWIW. >> Monday, April 18, 1955 at 5:50 P.M. Sun sign: Aries; rising sign: Libra; moon sign: Pisces. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:02:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4N24Bp001923 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:02:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A89E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:00:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:00:44 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4N0f201373 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:00:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204230035.JDIZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:00:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFBC95.6080108@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:00:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I love this!!! References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778BB@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > The NCAA has only gotten past having AA QBs in the previous ten or twenty > years (give or take some wiggle room). Quite a bit of wiggle room. I know we had AA QBs before that. I'm trying now to remember whether the black football star when I first started teaching here (Jan. '70) was a QB. I'm thinking he was since he was a star -- which is something QBs often are, but maybe he played another position. The reason I remember him is that he was very versatile and had a great life going for him but then died young. While at MSU he was both a football star and Mr. MSU -- an odd combination since usually football players aren't much involved with anything other than football and aren't thought much about outside the fb context. He married a and went to med school after graduating. But a few years later word spread that they had gotten a divorce because he had decided he was gay and that he had quit med school. Some number of years later he died. I can't remember of what. Possibly AIDS, though I don't remember hearing that. My point is simply that I don't usually remember fb players, but he was memorable. I just don't remember whether he was a QB. I remember some black QBs not many years after that, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4N7MBp001993 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:07:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207AEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:06:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:06:02 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4N62202246 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:06:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204230557.JFPH1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:05:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:05:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Dr. Maynor, good luck finding Santa a decent chair today. Well, I did eyeball some chairs in the Union lounge area today, not far from the ballroom, and concluded that one of them could be dragged into the ballroom in a pinch. They're not ideal but would be better than having Santa standing or sitting in a metal folding chair. I'm going to do some more chair checking tomorrow. Today got majorly eaten up by other things. At least now I have finalized the food order with Dining Services, turned in the set-up chart to the Union set-up office, checked on the health of the piano and mic, communicated non-stop with the ARF treasurer, the Provost's secretary, the entertainers, etc., and turned in a request at the Landmark Cafe for four gift certificates, which I will pick up tomorrow afternoon. I've also communicated with somebody who has a truck about possible help in transporting poinsettias from Walmart. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:10:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NAEBp002010 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:10:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A8ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:08:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:08:55 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4N8o202569 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:08:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204230845.JGVO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:08:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFBE79.8080904@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:08:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075938.00b642a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075938.00b642a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > You're getting the hang of it! Will you teach any classes next > semester? I'm hoping not. I've decided I want to be really retired. There's a slight possibility that I'll be teaching one course next semester (Language & Culture, 8:00-9:15 TTh), but I'm trying to convince the dept head to axe it since there aren't many students pre-registered for it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:11:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NBRBp002031 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A8E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:10:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NA7202710 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:10:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204231001.JHKO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:10:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFBECB.8060709@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:10:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHITE DOG ALERT! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Whose statue is that that he's hanging around? Stephen D. Lee, first pres of MSU. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:15:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NFeBp002085 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:15:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A8FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:14:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:14:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NEK203273 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:14:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB4NEGut003171 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:14:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3babc$702692e0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001c01c3ba7f$cb327380$dbcadece@0018079268> <000e01c3ba9a$f09f2f80$dbcadece@0018079268> <001a01c3bab3$2c56bc60$dbcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Need Xmas Help Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:14:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Once again I call on my computer savvy WL friends for help. > > > > Never mind. Figured it out. That is, > > I downloaded it and am able to put it > > in an email as an attachment, but did not > > find a way to have it open and play > > as the message is opened. > > > > - D. M. > > > > Okay, I figured that out too. Can do all > of the above with MS Home Publisher, > but it won't let me write a very long email. > > - D. M. Okay. I figured that out too. I talked less. The lesson of my life. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:16:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NGmBp002099 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:16:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A907@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:28 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NFS203538 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-173.gwi.net [216.195.150.173]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4NFQAr060091 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204181456.00b868b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:15:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312031820.hB3IKIg20958@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I feel compelled to ask, does anyone make their own crust? I've >seen Boboli mentioned, but nothing about making a crust to taste. >clo Clyde makes his own pizza crust. With sourdough starter. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:17:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NHHBp002118 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:17:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A90A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:57 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NFv203722 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204231552.JJZH1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFC029.1020208@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:15:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: One more pizza thing References: <41b44541de35.41de3541b445@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <41b44541de35.41de3541b445@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Natalie, Another thing I wanted to reply to but couldn't (reasons unclear): Re John's Pizza, they don't sell slices. Pies only. So it will only be of use to you if you are not alone. However, there are many good slice places in the city -- one favorite is Joe's at the corner of Bleecker and 6th Avenue. How big are the pizzas? I can eat a whole small one, unless it's thick-crusted and filled with a ton of toppings. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:19:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NJOBp002154 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:19:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A916@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:18:04 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NI4204016 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:18:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204231759.JKYN1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:17:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFC0A8.4050709@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:18:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>of mutancy. That to me was exremely telling. Exact same words but > > Curiosity question (from the Words-L type of fun) - seriously: what does > "exact same" or "same exact" serve which "same" or "the same" does not? I > have heard it in movies from the 60s and 70s so I know it's not horribly > old. Old? I've never thought of it as old or young. I think it's something I've heard and said all of my life -- as in it was around years ago and is still around. What it serves that either one of the words by itself wouldn't is emphasis. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NOWBp002218 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:24:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6A946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:23:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:23:12 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NNC204736 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:23:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204232307.JNID1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:23:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFC1DC.2040402@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:23:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204143155.00b2db10@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204143155.00b2db10@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Remind me to stop reading these > stupid novels. Speaking of junk books, John Grisham did a nice thing yesterday. He flew down to attend a retirement reception for one of my lunch bunch -- which I didn't go to because I had a commitment to be at the public library at that time. I heard today that JG had come. JG knows the retiring person well since he (the retiring person) was MSU pres when JG gave all his books and papers and stuff to us. And, fittingly, yesterday's reception was in The Grisham Room of the library -- and the former pres, after stepping down as pres because he developed MS, has been somehow in charge of The Grisham Room, among other jobs on campus. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:25:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NPRBp002237 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:25:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A938@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:24:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:24:07 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NO7204824 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:24:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-173.gwi.net [216.195.150.173]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB4NO5Ar062118 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:24:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204182248.0254d2f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:24:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FCE6FD9.5010706@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>Sounds fun. And I still don't remember why Dec. 8 rings a bell with me >>as being . Hmm. Maybe that was the date of my PhD. I didn't go >>to the ceremony, but I remember that it was something like Dec. 8 or 10 >>or so. Yes, December 8, 1978. The date is engraved on the gold locket that my family gave to me. I did attend the ceremony. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:32:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NWgBp002348 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:32:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6A96A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:31:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4NVM205723 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:31:22 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB4NVDrk007251 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:31:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:31:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <578571429.20031204173106@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: My distressing day In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Have you tried to run some spyware (first) to see if something ominous has > been loaded onto your machine and is playing havoc? Do you mean something that checks for spyware and removes it? Yes, I use both Spybot and AdAware regularly. Used them earlier today. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:49:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NnuBp002620 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:49:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00207BA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:48:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:48:36 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Nma207081 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:48:36 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB4NmYm6000869 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:48:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FCFC780.8010008@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:47:12 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <002501c3baad$2e114c60$dbcadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: Making > a fuss about food creates a person who will make a fuss > about his food Yes, Phil being a prime example. I'm going to pull an Alec and declare how sick I am of hearing about what a picky eater you are. Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:51:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4Np4Bp002630 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:51:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207BD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:49:44 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB4Ndi206388 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:39:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 10516 invoked by uid 1003); 4 Dec 2003 23:39:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:39:43 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin Message-ID: <20031204233943.GA6923@words-l.org> References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:41:03AM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2003120 > > 4/FACTS04/TPComment/Features > > Interesting but I think this is more for bonniev, really. "Do you want cheeky or sexy?" I understood sexy, so I chose cheeky, a possible safe middle-ground. I submit that "a possible safe middle-ground" is an Ann Borkin expression. Discuss ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:54:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NsQBp002660 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:54:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A9CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:53:06 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Nr1207484 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:53:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204235256.GPKC1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:52:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFC8D9.10600@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:52:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312041501.hB4F1Fp30277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204173404.00b57160@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204173404.00b57160@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 04:19 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I >> had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why >> would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to >> me that they're Masons?) > > > They are not exactly the same thing. Shriners have moved up through the > Masonic system (no, I don't understand just how this happens, but it > does). So, all Shriners are Masons; not all Masons are Shriners. And as > far as I know, only Shriners get to wear those funny hats. Thanks. I figured out the Mason-Shriner relationship from later postings. I don't know why the hats and cars should have indicated to me that Shriners were Masons, though. (That might have been mentioned somewhere. I've been zooming. Was determined to clear out the e-mail before Survivor time. I feel Survivor starved since it's been over a week. I kept telling myself today while in the throes of banquet details that tonight I could sit down and enjoy Survivor.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 17:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB4NxABp002705 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:59:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A9DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:50 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB4Nvo207908 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031204235745.GRSD1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFC9FA.9010506@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:57:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312042255.hB4Mtr200614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312042255.hB4Mtr200614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Yes, you have convinced me of that. I think one reason I find the idea >>strange of a town's having a division between those who played bridge >>and those who didn't is that I grew up in a city. Maybe people in South >>Jackson didn't play bridge. There wouldn't have been any particular >>reason/way for me to know what they did or didn't do for recreation. >> > This seems like one of many perfectly good reasons for not being conscious > of class distinctions when a child. I'm pretty sure that I've mentioned that before on this -- about how after getting to college I learned about the kind of class consciousness that existed in small towns. The kind of cross-section of people one gets to know when growing up in a small town is good in many ways, but otoh there was something not so bad about growing up without thinking about social classes (other than black-white, of course). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:01:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB501WBp002767 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:01:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A9E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB500C208140 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:00:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205000007.GSVY1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:00:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFCA88.1070901@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:00:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <3FCE6FD9.5010706@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204182248.0254d2f0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204182248.0254d2f0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >>> Sounds fun. And I still don't remember why Dec. 8 rings a bell with me >>> as being . Hmm. Maybe that was the date of my PhD. I didn't go >>> to the ceremony, but I remember that it was something like Dec. 8 or 10 >>> or so. > > Yes, December 8, 1978. The date is engraved on the gold locket that my > family gave to me. I did attend the ceremony. Thank you for releasing the niggle from my brain! Did you read my dissertation title in the program that day? Or I guess they put such things in the program. They do here. They mailed me my diploma in a cute orange-and-white mailing tube, but I don't think they mailed me a program. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:02:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB502YBp002803 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:02:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207C07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:01:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:01:14 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB501D208256 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:01:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB501BCB023749 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:01:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCFCA76.6040107@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:59:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <1e39a1e678.1e6781e39a@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Clo: > >>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:17:40 -0500, Marie Ascher >><14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET>wrote: >> >>>From: Phil Paxton >>> >>>>and scares them into flapping their wings - you'd have dark >>>> >>meat wings >> >>>>intead of the usual white meat. >>>> >>>Are wings considered white meat? I could see the "drumette" being >>> >>considered white meat but not the other wing part -- the two boned >>sectionis most definitely dark. >> >>afik, the breast is white meat. All else is dark. >> > > That's the way I've always seen it. Phil, where do you get your "above" the waist theory? Wing meat is tender moist dark stuff, not the dry white stuff. > I'm really stuck on this idea that chickens have a waist, personally. I'm going to look carefully while Ana is chasing them this weekend and they fly up the hay bales and stuff. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB503VBp002809 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:03:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A9EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:02:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:02:11 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB502A208380 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:02:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205000205.GTUK1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFCAFF.5080805@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:02:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <20031204233943.GA6923@words-l.org> In-Reply-To: <20031204233943.GA6923@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Discuss ... See, Lynne! I told you not to worry -- that he'd resurface. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:04:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB504xBp002822 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:04:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207C0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:03:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:03:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB503Y208626 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:03:34 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB502pKV000813 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:02:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:03:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1857641741.20031204180338@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > There are now places which can outperform McDonald's. One of them is > Culver's. Research in some business reports has shown when Culver's and > Chez Ronald are in close proximity, Culver's wins nearly every time. I find this shocking; the Culver's here sucks rocks. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:05:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB505iBp002836 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:05:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6A9FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:04:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:04:24 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB504O208769 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:04:24 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB504Lut015440 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:04:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c3bac3$6ee50e00$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312042255.hB4Mtr200614@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCFC9FA.9010506@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:05:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'm pretty sure that I've mentioned that before on this -- > about how after getting to college I learned about the kind of class > consciousness that existed in small towns. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Just as I have shared that I grew up in a small town where there was no class consciousness of any kind. Well, one kind. There were the drinkers and the non-drinkers, but even that was just accepted. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:10:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50AbBp002898 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207C2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:09:17 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB509G209152 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:09:16 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D69B42B90F; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77BC2B90B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:09:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: <20031204233943.GA6923@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > I submit that "a possible safe middle-ground" is an Ann Borkin > expression. This is extremely implausible. You are cheeky, sir, and not sexy. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50DbBp002938 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:13:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AA56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:12:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:12:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50CG209768 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:12:16 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB50C66V021891 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:12:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:12:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1911987835.20031204181211@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Well, we each wanted to drive one. I was wondering who was going to sit on who's lap... >>>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 12/04/03 01:58PM >>> >>I can't believe y'all are accepting Natalie's claim >>to think they don't exist; she saw them at AcadiaFest! >>Natalie, why do you think Shriners wear funny hats >>and drive silly little cars? They're Masons! >>Also, you can see the Masonic emblem on the backs >>of cars everywhere: it's a compass and "rule" - >>a "square" ruler. >> >>clo > Yes! They had cool cars! Paul and I wanted to drive one. > Betty Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:15:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50FMBp002967 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AA4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:14:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:14:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50E2209974 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:14:02 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB50DJKV009550; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:13:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:14:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <994320556.20031204181406@WordWrite.com> To: "Bethany K. Dumas" CC: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: References: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > It's trees they want to ban - right? Because they are fire > hazards. I bet they want to ban them because they are messy. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:16:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50GRBp002992 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:16:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AA51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:15:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:15:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50F6210059 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:15:07 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB50EOKV010489 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:14:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:15:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <172457758.20031204181511@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204143155.00b2db10@pop.gwi.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204143155.00b2db10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cornw*e*ll On Thursday, December 04, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>today to buy milk and noticed a Patricia Cornwall book named ... lemme >>go look ... named _Portrait of a Killer_ with Jack the Ripper mentioned >>in a subtitle. I bought it since that did not sound familiar -- did not >>sound like something I'd read before. Have I? It's not the one some of >>y'all have been talking about lately, is it? I think not since it was >>published in 2002. I'm guessing that y'all have been talking about one >>still in hardback only. -- Natalie > That's the book where Cornwall claims to have solved the mystery of who > Jack the Ripper was. It's not fiction. Her conclusions have not been > widely accepted. But she claims to have done all kinds of sleuth work and > figured it all out. > By the way, when I got to the end of the latest Scarpetta novel (yes, it's > in hardback), I was sooo disappointed. But then I remembered how I always > feel that way when reading Cornwall. It is very disconcerting to be able > to see that there are only about twenty pages left in the book and yet lots > of the story is left to be told. She rushes through her endings. Another > thing I realized is that her books aren't much of a mystery. You know who > the killer is all along. It's only a matter of just how the killer will be > apprehended. Sometimes they aren't. Remind me to stop reading these > stupid novels. > bonnie Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:18:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50IJBp003025 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:18:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AA6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:16:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:16:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50Gx210204 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:16:59 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB50GHKV012010 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:16:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:17:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1919328253.20031204181704@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I am 'Yao" - "born on thursday" You have far to go.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:22:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50MsBp003077 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:22:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AA6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:21:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:21:34 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50LX210599 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:21:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB50LWCB019577 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:21:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FCFCF3A.1090703@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:20:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which they were born? Maybe I have an atypical group of friends (I can hear Karen laughing even as I type these words) but I'm pretty sure that most of my friends could tell you without calculating it. In some cultures it's a very important piece of information (e.g. Ghana ) > > I haven't the foggiest idea of what day of the week I was born on. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:36:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50auBp003328 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:36:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AABC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:35:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:35:35 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50ZZ211832 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:35:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205003530.CYIP2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:35:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFD2D3.7090102@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:35:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Slashdot: Public Libraries Trading Quaintness For Cash References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77882@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204143155.00b2db10@pop.gwi.net> <172457758.20031204181511@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <172457758.20031204181511@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > cornw*e*ll I bet if she does genealogy, she's into Cornwall also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:38:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50cRBp003349 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:38:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AAC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:07 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50b6211944 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205003701.CYZA2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFD32F.9040300@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:37:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <1919328253.20031204181704@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1919328253.20031204181704@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>I am 'Yao" - "born on thursday" > > You have far to go.:) Tuesday's child is Child of Grace, which I am. But I must admit that I had no idea what day of the week I was born on until sometime in middle-age when I was looking at a universal calendar and suddenly thought about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:38:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50cdBp003363 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:38:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AAC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:19 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50bJ211974 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:37:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB50bGut018716 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:37:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3bac8$07916320$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778CC@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <1857641741.20031204180338@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:37:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > There are now places which can outperform McDonald's. One of them is > > Culver's. Research in some business reports has shown when Culver's and > > Chez Ronald are in close proximity, Culver's wins nearly every time. > > I find this shocking; the Culver's here sucks rocks. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism > We just got one here this year. It's not doing too well, I don't think. Back in Wisconsin (its home) it has fans big time. One of their favorite items there is the deep fried cheese curds. Their specialty is the butter burger. I like some of their offerings (like their frozen custard with daily special flavors), but find they cost a bit more than some fast foods. Their place has a nice design and is immaculately clean. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 18:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB50e9Bp003406 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:40:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6AACE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:38:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:38:49 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB50cn212076 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:38:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB50ckut021385 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:38:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01c3bac8$3d6412e0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FCFCF3A.1090703@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:39:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > > > I haven't the foggiest idea of what day of the week I was > born on. -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman You can look it up, I'm sure. I was born on a Friday at 4:30 a.m. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 19:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB51QFBp004188 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:26:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AB69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:55 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB51Os216643 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:54 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120501244801500dgrche> (Authid: adamh1); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 01:24:48 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sweet Cinnamon & Butter Crunchies - Box of 12, 4-oz Bags > From Gram's Gourmet, these are tender tasty pork rinds flavored > with cinnamon and butter and sweetened with Splenda®. Now order > them by the case and save! I've tried the cheesy Gram's Gourmet pork rinds and they're pretty good. For those of us who can't eat the stuff the cheese powder normally comes on, it's a nice alternative. Ditto with the cinnamon sugar. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 19:27:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB51RoBp004217 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:27:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AB82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:26:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:26:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB51GT216103 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:16:29 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB51FL61027936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:15:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Services, turned in the set-up chart to the Union set-up office, checked >on the health of the piano and mic, communicated non-stop with the ARF Oh, Natalie - you too? I can't stand for mike. Who started that anyway? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 19:29:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB51TkBp004238 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:29:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6AB94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB51SP217024 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:28:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB51SMut029225 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:28:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001001c3bacf$2ad059c0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778DD@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <002501c3baad$2e114c60$dbcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:29:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > D.M.: > > All things edible are good. > > Mark(land) 7:19! > > -- > Richard Hey, that's neat. I like that. If not misunderstood. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 19:34:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB51Y0Bp004300 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:34:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6AB99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:32:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB51Md216469 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:22:39 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB51LV61031031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:21:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:22:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: Karen Kay cc: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <994320556.20031204181406@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <3b7b3d3b410b.3b410b3b7b3d@optonline.net> <994320556.20031204181406@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> It's trees they want to ban - right? Because they are fire >> hazards. > >I bet they want to ban them because they are messy. I think it's the fire hazard. When the complex was revamped a few years ago, firewalls were put in between units - thus lowering insurance costs considerably. I suspect this is related. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 19:35:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB51ZABp004325 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:35:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AB85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:33:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:33:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB51Nl216589 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:23:47 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB51Md61031552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:22:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:23:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCFCF3A.1090703@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3FCFCF3A.1090703@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >I haven't the foggiest idea of what day of the week I was >born on. Nor do I. I suppose I can look it up. April 1, 1937. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:22:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52M7Bp005015 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:22:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AC00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:20:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:20:46 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52Kk220922 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:20:46 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:20:40 PST Message-ID: <20031205022040.52635.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:20:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778C5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > (make your life easier: use the advanced search to > get 100 hits/page) > > Google #1: all words: "mason underwear mormon" > > Google #2: all words: "freemason" > exact phrase: "royal family" > > In the case of Google #2, you can use "mason" > instead of "freemason" but you > get all of the names "Mason" (e.g., Timothy) which > clutters the return. In > the case of Google #1, "mason" is enough. Well, if you would rather I Google, please say so, why don't you. I didn't Google for what to me is my common knowledge. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:23:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52NjBp005066 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:23:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AC07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:22:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:22:24 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB52MO221064 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:22:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205022218.VPUM1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:22:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>Services, turned in the set-up chart to the Union set-up office, checked >>on the health of the piano and mic, communicated non-stop with the ARF > > Oh, Natalie - you too? I can't stand for mike. Who started that > anyway? I don't understand. It's a clipping of microphone. Where would a k come from? Mike to me is a proper name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:32:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52WjBp005228 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:32:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AC22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:31:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:31:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB52VN221788 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:31:23 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB52UfKV012577; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:30:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:31:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6216999.20031204203128@WordWrite.com> To: Natalie Maynor CC: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCFD32F.9040300@maynor.net> References: <1919328253.20031204181704@WordWrite.com> <3FCFD32F.9040300@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tuesday's child is Child of Grace, which I am. Me, too. Though my mother wasn't Grace. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:32:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52WtBp005231 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:32:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6AC3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:31:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:31:34 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52VY221824 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:31:34 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:31:29 PST Message-ID: <20031205023129.55150.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:31:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I love this!!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > They're sub-literate ex-jocks filling dead air. > I wouldn't call that the NFL's AA "sore spot". > (That'd be the SCANDALOUS paucity of black punters.) > > I'm warning you, we don't want me quoting Public > Enemy songs again. Yes, we do. They are amusing, and preferable to some of the witchiness )not yours) that just takes up space. Please, more, more Public Enemy songs! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:37:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52baBp005282 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:37:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207E77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:35:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB52PV221228 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:25:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB52OL61016949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:24:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:25:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Oh, Natalie - you too? I can't stand for mike. Who started that >> anyway? > >I don't understand. It's a clipping of microphone. Where would a k >come from? Mike to me is a proper name. Until a few years ago, everybody said /maIk/ for microphone - and spelled it mike. Then all of a sudden it started being spelled - and pronounced /mIk/, I assume - since a change in spelling often coincides with a change in pronunciation. It's /maIk/ to me. Mic spells /mIk/ = Mick. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:42:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52g7Bp005371 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:42:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207EB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:40:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB52ek226884 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:40:46 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB52eg6V008191 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:40:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:40:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Until a few years ago, everybody said /maIk/ for microphone - and spelled > it mike. Define 'a few years ago'. 10? 2? > Then all of a sudden it started being spelled - and > pronounced /mIk/, I assume - since a change in spelling often coincides > with a change in pronunciation. It's /maIk/ to me. Mic spells /mIk/ = > Mick. LOL Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:49:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52nfBp005455 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:49:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6AD54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52hQ227234 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:43:20 PST Message-ID: <20031205024320.58238.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:43:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCFC0A8.4050709@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Old? I've never thought of it as old or young. I > think it's something > I've heard and said all of my life -- as in it was > around years ago and > is still around. What it serves that either one of > the words by itself > wouldn't is emphasis. This seems to be a good point at which to ask the etymology of the phrase "brand new". ? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:49:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52nfBp005454 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:49:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AD1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:38:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:38:17 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52bx225443 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:37:59 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:37:54 PST Message-ID: <20031205023754.65612.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:37:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312042251.hB4MpA232442@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: oh, 56th > degree; the highest I know of is Scottish Rite, > which I think is 70th. > > clo You are correct. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:50:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52ovBp005467 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:50:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00207ECC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:49:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:49:36 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52na227734 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:49:36 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:49:30 PST Message-ID: <20031205024930.92533.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:49:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031204233943.GA6923@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > "Do you want cheeky or sexy?" I understood sexy, > so I chose > cheeky, a possible safe middle-ground. > > I submit that "a possible safe middle-ground" is an > Ann Borkin > expression. > > Discuss ... I believe you so submit because it encompasses many of the areas that seem to revolve in the Mme. Borinki mind. But having written that, I cannot explain it. Perhaps the use of the word "possible" is the key. What do you think? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:52:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52quBp005486 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:52:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AD5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:51:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:51:34 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52pP227874 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:51:25 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:51:20 PST Message-ID: <20031205025120.25351.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:51:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCFC780.8010008@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm going to pull an Alec and declare how > sick I am of > hearing about what a picky eater you are. How picky can you be when you've spent your entire life believing chicken wings are white meat? It reminds me of Shaw's vegetarianism. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52sEBp005498 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:54:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00207EDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:52:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:52:52 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52qq227981 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:52:52 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:52:47 PST Message-ID: <20031205025247.61120.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:52:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FCFCA76.6040107@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm really stuck on this idea that chickens > have a waist, > personally. I'm going to look carefully while Ana > is > chasing them this weekend and they fly up the hay > bales and > stuff. It's the only way they have to anchor their bloomers. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52wDBp005547 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:58:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AD6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:56:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:56:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB52kp227467 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:46:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB52jg61022132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:45:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:46:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Define 'a few years ago'. 10? 2? No - more like 7-8. In East TN. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:58:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52wNBp005557 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:58:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00207EB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:57:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:57:02 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB52v1228363 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:57:01 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200312050256530160093si1e>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:56:53 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204185013.035fca50@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:59:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <20031205024320.58238.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FCFC0A8.4050709@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >This seems to be a good point at which to ask the etymology of the phrase >"brand new". ? m-w: Main Entry: brand-new Etymology: brand(1) Date: circa 1570 where brand(1) is the "firebrand" sort of thing. ==== "Brand-new has nothing to do with the brand name of a product. It is rather associated with the word 'brand' that is cognate with 'fire,' as in firebrand. The product would thus be fresh from the anvil, or as Shakespeare put it in 'Twelfth Night,' 'fire-new.'" From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997). According to the "Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins" by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988), the word "brand" "...dates back to the Middle Ages and earlier, when 'brand' meant 'flame or torch' as it does in the still current phrase 'snatching a "brand" from the burning.' The description 'brand-new' in those days was applied to products -- usually made of metal -- newly taken from the flames in which they were molded." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 20:58:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB52wWBp005560 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:58:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AD76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:57:11 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52vA228394 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:57:05 PST Message-ID: <20031205025705.10423.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: Oh, Natalie - you too? I can't stand for mike. > Who started that > anyway? > > Bethany Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:00:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB530jBp005597 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:00:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AD7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:59:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:59:24 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB52xO228610 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:59:24 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:59:19 PST Message-ID: <20031205025919.27167.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:59:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001001c3bacf$2ad059c0$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > D.M.: > > > All things edible are good. > > > > Mark(land) 7:19! > > > > -- > > Richard > > Hey, that's neat. I like that. > If not misunderstood. > > - D. M. Certainly makes it memorable. You'll be cropping up in sermons, next. Boy, you'd love that! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB534rBp005676 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:04:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6ADA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:03:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:03:31 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB533V229037 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:03:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:03:26 PST Message-ID: <20031205030326.9755.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:03:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204185013.035fca50@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Lynne Weber writes, > > >This seems to be a good point at which to ask the > etymology of the phrase > >"brand new". ? > > m-w: > Main Entry: brand-new > Etymology: brand(1) > Date: circa 1570 > > where brand(1) is the "firebrand" sort of thing. > > ==== > > "Brand-new has nothing to do with the brand name of > a product. It is rather > associated with the word 'brand' that is cognate > with 'fire,' as in > firebrand. The product would thus be fresh from the > anvil, or as > Shakespeare put it in 'Twelfth Night,' 'fire-new.'" > From "Encyclopedia of > Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson > (Facts on File, New York, 1997). > > According to the "Morris Dictionary of Word and > Phrase Origins" by William > and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, > 1988), the word "brand" > "...dates back to the Middle Ages and earlier, when > 'brand' meant 'flame or > torch' as it does in the still current phrase > 'snatching a "brand" from the > burning.' The description 'brand-new' in those days > was applied to products > -- usually made of metal -- newly taken from the > flames in which they were > molded." > > Pete Thank you. This is most excellent, much better than one would have imagined! I am feeling more enthusiastic about its use now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB538mBp005737 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:08:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6AD97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:07:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:07:27 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB537R229454 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:07:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-142.gwi.net [216.195.150.142]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB537PGn005763 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:07:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204220607.0255de70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:07:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031204022112.46659.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031203092113.00b9d9c8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >We had Driver's Ed in high school, but for some rason, >it was a small program. My father insisted I learn >how to change a tire before I learned how to drive. >The tire he taught me, the driving he did not. My >boyfriend (later husband) taught the driving. >Lynne My life went the other way around. My father tried to teach me how to drive but my husband insisted on teaching me how to change a flat tire. Not that I've ever actually had to do it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:12:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53C5Bp005790 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:12:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ADB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:10:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:10:44 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB53Ah229788 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:10:44 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-142.gwi.net [216.195.150.142]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB53AgGn006139 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:10:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204221016.025613a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:10:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031204024811.64488.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7789E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >He actually did some commercials for L'eggs, iirc. He >played at AL, but is from Beaver Falls, PA, so I sort >of kept up with him. I've never known anything about >Broadway Joe and Needlecraft. I thought Rosie Greer was the football player who stitched. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:14:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53E6Bp005818 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:14:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6ADAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB53Ci229975 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:44 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-142.gwi.net [216.195.150.142]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB53CgAr002076 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204221201.025558b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:12:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <3FCEA240.4000909@maynor.net> References: <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I don't know mustand sandwiches, but do y'all remember >mustard-seed necklaces? -- Natalie Yes, I remember them. Wasn't it some kind of biblical reference about a mustard seed? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:17:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53HFBp005881 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:17:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6ADD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:15:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:15:53 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB53Fm230213 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:15:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205031543.NCNQ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:15:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFF861.1070104@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:15:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>>Oh, Natalie - you too? I can't stand for mike. Who started that >>>anyway? >> >>I don't understand. It's a clipping of microphone. Where would a k >>come from? Mike to me is a proper name. > > Until a few years ago, everybody said /maIk/ for microphone - and spelled > it mike. I've never heard anybody pronounce it any way other than /maIk/ (allowing, of course, for the not-quite-diphthong in Southern speech, though it's pretty close to the diphthong before a voiceless consonant). > Then all of a sudden it started being spelled - and > pronounced /mIk/, I assume - since a change in spelling often coincides > with a change in pronunciation. I've never heard it pronounced /mIk/ by anybody. > It's /maIk/ to me. Mic spells /mIk/ = > Mick. It's /maIk/ to me also. So you're saying that somebody who spells microphone as microphone says /mIkr{swhwa}fon/? Or are you saying that you spell it mikeraphone? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:24:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53OfBp005926 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:24:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6ADCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:23:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:23:20 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB53NJ230772 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:23:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205032314.NFCX1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFFA23.2020607@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:23:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <3FCFC0A8.4050709@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204185013.035fca50@mail.istori.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204185013.035fca50@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski quoted: > where brand(1) is the "firebrand" sort of thing. And this reminds me of firebird (that's the name, isn't it?), which reminds me of Mozilla, which reminds me to tell you again that I am quite happy with Mozilla, thought there are still a few minor glitches. One is that I clicked on the url in reading mail late this afternoon to see whether The White Dog was still romping around SD Lee's statue, and it told me that I needed a plug-in. So I followed the url to get the plug-in, told it to download java, and the download aborted because I didn't have file somethingorother. Another is that Marie's postings veer off to the right into unreadableness when I suck them in to reply to them. I looked at the archives out of curiosity and saw that her postings stop after the first line in the archives also, so I think the problem may not be Mozilla. My main point is to thank you for Mozilla. I'll work out the minor glitches sooner or later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53S8Bp005971 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:28:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ADEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:26:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:26:47 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB53Ql231086 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:26:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.240.114]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205032641.NGFW1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:26:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCFFAF3.9080603@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:26:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <20031204021727.33632.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204221201.025558b0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204221201.025558b0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I don't know mustand sandwiches, but do y'all remember >> mustard-seed necklaces? -- Natalie > > Yes, I remember them. Wasn't it some kind of biblical reference about a > mustard seed? Yes, I think you're right. Something about faith and moving mountains? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:38:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53cOBp006092 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:38:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AE05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:37:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:37:03 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB53b3232262 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:37:03 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:36:57 PST Message-ID: <20031205033657.81451.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:36:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204220607.0255de70@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > My life went the other way around. My father tried > to teach me how to > drive but my husband insisted on teaching me how to > change a flat > tire. Not that I've ever actually had to do it. Yes, so far my luck has held, as well. And that's a lot of years of driving. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:44:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53i0Bp006153 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:44:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020805B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:29 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB53gT232640 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:29 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:42:24 PST Message-ID: <20031205034224.20243.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:42:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: [spam] Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204221016.025613a8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > I thought Rosie Greer was the football player who > stitched. > > > bonnie Yes, needlepoint, I believe. Several years ago, a friend of mine at the office started a huge needlepoint project, a reproduction of a Bayeaux tapestry or something. She did one half of the needlework. The Fire Chief did the other half. His was a bit better. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:44:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53iKBp006158 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:44:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AE12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:58 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB53gw232658 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:58 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB53gtut000948 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:42:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3bae1$f5969400$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031205025919.27167.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > All things edible are good. > > > > > > Mark(land) 7:19! > > > > > > -- > > > Richard > > > > Hey, that's neat. I like that. > > If not misunderstood. > > > > - D. M. > > Certainly makes it memorable. You'll be cropping up > in sermons, next. Boy, you'd love that! __________________________________ I think not. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:45:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53jqBp006210 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:45:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020806D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:44:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:44:31 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB53iV200355 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:44:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:44:25 PST Message-ID: <20031205034425.73742.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:44:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204221201.025558b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >I don't know mustand sandwiches, but do y'all > remember > >mustard-seed necklaces? -- Natalie > > Yes, I remember them. Wasn't it some kind of > biblical reference about a > mustard seed? For a while there, it seems to me, everything was mustard seed. Key rings, necklaces, bracelets. barrettes. The reference is something like "If ye have faith but the size of a mustard seed..." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 21:50:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB53oWBp006272 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:50:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6AE38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:49:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:49:10 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB53nA200826 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:49:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:49:05 PST Message-ID: <20031205034905.8255.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:49:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001201c3bae1$f5969400$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > All things edible are good. > > > > > > > > Mark(land) 7:19! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Richard > > > > > > Hey, that's neat. I like that. > > > If not misunderstood. > > > > > > - D. M. > > > > Certainly makes it memorable. You'll be cropping > up > > in sermons, next. Boy, you'd love that! > __________________________________ > I think not. > > - D. M. In the immortal words of Crow, "heh, heh, heh". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:06:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5464Bp006504 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:06:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6AF9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:04:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:04:41 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB544f203210 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:04:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.118.2c8742a0 (4459) for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:04:32 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <118.2c8742a0.2d015dd0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:04:32 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/4/2003 9:49:23 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << In the immortal words of Crow, "heh, heh, heh". >> I'm thinking about signing up for Columbia House's MST3K DVD collection. Tomorrow (if the weather cooperates) I'll be getting my DVD player. Anyone know what projects Trace Beaulieu has been in lately? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:13:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB54DSBp006671 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:13:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B07E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:12:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:12:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB54C6204516 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:12:06 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB54BOKV021260 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:11:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:12:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <596435860.20031204221211@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <20031205025120.25351.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031205025120.25351.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > How picky can you be when you've spent your entire > life believing chicken wings are white meat? It > reminds me of Shaw's vegetarianism. It reminds me of my Dad--I made him eggplant parmesan once, and he raved about it, so I took the chance and told him what it was. He couldn't finish it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:20:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB54KGBp006775 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:20:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6B0BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:18:54 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB54Is205132 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:18:54 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:18:47 PST Message-ID: <20031205041848.33377.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:18:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <118.2c8742a0.2d015dd0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In the immortal words of Crow, "heh, heh, heh". > >> > > I'm thinking about signing up for Columbia House's > MST3K DVD collection. Tomorrow (if the weather > cooperates) I'll be getting my DVD player. > > Anyone know what projects Trace Beaulieu has > been in lately? I would dearly love to know. We get re-re-re-runs on Sci-Fi Channel at 8:00 AM. Saturdays. We own a few on VHS, but I have problems recognizing the movies from the plot summaries. I really miss them. Crow is my benign twin. How are the Duncans? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:22:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB54MrBp006834 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:22:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B0AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:21:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:21:31 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB54LV205437 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:21:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:21:24 PST Message-ID: <20031205042124.52187.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:21:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <596435860.20031204221211@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > It reminds me of my Dad--I made him eggplant > parmesan once, and he > raved about it, so I took the chance and told him > what it was. He > couldn't finish it. Was it just the word eggplant that turned him off? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:27:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB54RDBp006856 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:27:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B0C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:25:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:25:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB54Po205965 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:25:50 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB54Plrk011143 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:25:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:25:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1837117345.20031204222553@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>Define 'a few years ago'. 10? 2? > No - more like 7-8. In East TN. Well, I think you should check the OED. I bet 'mic' dates back further than that. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:34:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB54YPBp007046 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:34:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B0D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:33:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:33:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB54X2206780 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:33:03 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB54WKKV010828 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:32:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:33:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1997394873.20031204223308@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <20031205042124.52187.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031205042124.52187.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> It reminds me of my Dad--I made him eggplant >> parmesan once, and he >> raved about it, so I took the chance and told him >> what it was. He >> couldn't finish it. > Was it just the word eggplant that turned him off? Yes. It's on the list of foods he didn't eat. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 22:36:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB54aeBp007068 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:36:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B0D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:35:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:35:18 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB54ZI206915 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:35:18 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB54ZEut011384 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:35:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3bae9$47fb3e60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031205034905.8255.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:35:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU __________________________________ > > I think not. > > > > - D. M. > > In the immortal words of Crow, "heh, heh, heh". Well, Richard, you can just eat Crow. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 4 23:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB55jeBp008146 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 23:45:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6B392@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 0:44:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:44:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:v2Vh7dJb4x/OcVJyJMhfL7BA8tU0IOuL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB55iH213893 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:44:17 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732AA2FDC4 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6479023349 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:44:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1837117345.20031204222553@WordWrite.com> References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, I think you should check the OED. I bet 'mic' dates back further >than that. > >Karen, Bingo. The draft entry for the new edition gives the first citation as 1961. The citation itself says "Abbr. mike or mic". Ken Miller Assistant Drone Johnson Institute for the Study of Harmless Drudgery From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 02:57:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB58vhBp010605 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:57:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6B682@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 3:56:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:56:20 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB58uJ230106 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:56:19 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120508561201300nhnl8e>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:56:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:58:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: wiki-wiki Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tooting own horn: Socialtext just got an PC Magazine Editor's Choice pick in a roundup of wiki services: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1402872,00.asp Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 03:01:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB591fBp010663 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:01:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:00:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:00:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB590H230461 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:00:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00208776@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:00:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200312050900.hB590H230461@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:00:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:05:03 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> I'm pretty sure that I've mentioned that before on this -- >> about how after getting to college I learned about the kind of class >> consciousness that existed in small towns. > -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Just as I have shared that I grew up in a >small town where there was no class >consciousness of any kind. Well, one >kind. There were the drinkers and the >non-drinkers, but even that was just >accepted. > > - D. M. Towns don't actually technically have or not have consciousness. People do; and you can't generalize from your own consciousness to everyone else's. Both Natalie and Doris can't recall observing or knowing about class distinction as children. Natalie tentatively puts this down to having grown up in a homogeneous neighborhood. I look back on childhood and draw conclusions about experiences and associations that may have been class-related. IMO that's sort of apples and oranges to what I may have known as a child. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 03:04:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB594bBp010691 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:04:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B68B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:03:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:03:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB593C230833 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:03:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020874A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:03:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312050903.hB593C230833@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:03:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> At 04:19 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>> My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I >>> had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why >>> would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to >>> me that they're Masons?) >> Actually, I was being humorous. AFAIK, there's no actual tipoff to the Mason connection in the mere fact of the hats and cars. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 03:12:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB59CmBp010777 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:12:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6B6A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:11:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:11:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB59BO231980 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:11:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020875B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:11:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200312050911.hB59BO231980@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:11:24 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:34 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> > > > All things edible are good. >> > > >> > > Mark(land) 7:19! >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Richard >> > >> > Hey, that's neat. I like that. >> > If not misunderstood. >> > >> > - D. M. >> >> Certainly makes it memorable. You'll be cropping up >> in sermons, next. Boy, you'd love that! >__________________________________ >I think not. > > - D. M. Why not? Come on in - the water's fine! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 03:14:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB59EjBp010840 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:14:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B698@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:13:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:13:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB59DL232310 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:13:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00208792@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:13:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312050913.hB59DL232310@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:13:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:33:08 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> --- Karen Kay wrote: >>> It reminds me of my Dad--I made him eggplant >>> parmesan once, and he >>> raved about it, so I took the chance and told him >>> what it was. He >>> couldn't finish it. > >> Was it just the word eggplant that turned him off? > >Yes. It's on the list of foods he didn't eat. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism My son's friend hated all tomato products, and was sure as a 5 yr old can be that catsup had none, in spite of the misleading picture on the label. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 03:18:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB59IaBp010931 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:18:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B6B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:17:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:17:12 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB59HC232585 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:17:12 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB59HAkF013017 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:17:10 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB59HAlr013015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:17:10 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:17:10 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things Message-ID: <20031205091710.GA13009@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E0@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > You must be Dutch. They'll eat peanut butter on bread with a = > knife and fork! = = How about a fluffernutter? (peanut butter and marshmallow creme) The dutch don't do marshmallows. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 04:00:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5A01Bp011608 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:00:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B6FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 4:58:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:58:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB59wa202915 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:58:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB59wZW1017330 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 01:58:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB59wYWq017295; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 01:58:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031205020043.00a84310@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:01:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200312050903.hB593C230833@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:03 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> At 04:19 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> > >>> My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I > >>> had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why > >>> would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to > >>> me that they're Masons?) > >> > >Actually, I was being humorous. AFAIK, there's no actual tipoff to the Mason >connection in the mere fact of the hats and cars. > >clo Well, crap! How do we identify them then? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 04:02:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5A2oBp011650 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:02:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002087C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 5:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:01:26 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5A1Q203078 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:01:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.d.1daf51b7 (4262) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:01:17 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:01:17 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/4/2003 10:19:12 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << How are the Duncans? >> Mom's giving up smoking again, not due to her health but to mine; ever since this cold has been hanging on, she's been worried about me. I told her not to worry; it's my standard winter cold. My elbow is still bothering me a bit. Bennie woke me up by playing on my bed; he loves sleeping as close to me as he can get; Sweetie used to sleep on my bed, but she sleeps on Mom's bed now. They still don't get along, but there's been nothing physical, just growls and barks, and I've been trying to give them each as much attention as I can get. How are you doing? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 04:19:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5AJ6Bp011795 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 04:19:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020880E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 5:17:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:17:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5AHZ203929 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:17:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5AHXW1031534 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:17:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5AHWWq031516; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:17:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031205021944.00a43960@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:20:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: wiki-wiki In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:58 AM 12/5/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Tooting own horn: Socialtext just got an PC Magazine Editor's Choice pick >in a roundup of wiki services: >http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1402872,00.asp > >Pete Nice editor rating. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 05:35:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5BZ4Bp012939 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:35:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B7E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 6:33:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 273509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:33:39 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5BXd208472 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:33:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.65]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205113333.QNWB1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:33:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD06D0F.7080407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:33:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wiki-wiki References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Tooting own horn: Socialtext just got an PC Magazine Editor's Choice pick > in a roundup of wiki services: > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1402872,00.asp Neat! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 05:39:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5BdABp013006 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B7E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 6:37:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 273625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:37:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Bbj208729 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:37:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB5BbhkF013154 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:37:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB5Bbhsf013152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:37:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:37:43 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20031205113743.GB13009@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77899@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075938.00b642a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBE79.8080904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCFBE79.8080904@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I'm hoping not. I've decided I want to be really retired. There's a = slight possibility that I'll be teaching one course next semester = (Language & Culture, 8:00-9:15 TTh), but I'm trying to convince the dept = head to axe it since there aren't many students pre-registered for it. = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Well, it's TTh early, which must suit you well and give you long weekends, but really, you must say no. I don't think you will regret it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 05:56:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Bu9Bp013189 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:56:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002088CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 6:54:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 273768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:54:44 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Bsi209973 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:54:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.167.65]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205115439.LGBP1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:54:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD071FE.1090600@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:54:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Sign Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re our earlier discussion of my desire to go to Jackson tomorrow, now I know that I will. I just got : ********************************* .... "Her love for the scores of students she taught over the years here in Jackson prompted her to contribute this tree,"Johnson said. "We certainly hope that her former students in the state and city, as well as everyone, will come and enjoy its beauty this holiday season." .... Breland plans to attend the tree-lighting ceremony after Jackson's 2 p.m. "Holiday Magic" Christmas parade Saturday. .... ************************************ from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0312/05/m05.html As one of her former students in the state, I need to go enjoy the beauty of her tree. This will mean that I'll have to spend Saturday night since watching a tree lighting after a parade that starts at 2:00 means darkness would be upon me coming home. But Spencer can handle a night alone, and I can come up early Sunday morning. Miss Breland, who is close to 100 years old now, was my eleventh grade English teacher. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 06:55:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5CtkBp014109 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:55:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B8CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 7:54:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:54:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5CiK232726 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:44:20 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5ChC61013744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:43:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >Bingo. The draft entry for the new edition gives the first citation as >1961. The citation itself says "Abbr. mike or mic". How many citations are there for the American South? East Tennessee? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 06:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5CwLBp014137 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:58:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00208977@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 7:56:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:56:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ckt200477 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:46:55 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5Cjk61014327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:45:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:46:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCFF861.1070104@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <3FCFF861.1070104@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It's /maIk/ to me also. So you're saying that somebody who spells >microphone as microphone says /mIkr{swhwa}fon/? Or are you saying that >you spell it mikeraphone? I do not recall discussing the pronunciation of at all. ??? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:00:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5D0OBp014189 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:00:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6B8FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 7:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:58:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Cmw200569 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:48:58 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5Cln61014822 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:47:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <596435860.20031204221211@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <20031205025120.25351.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <596435860.20031204221211@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >It reminds me of my Dad--I made him eggplant parmesan once, and he >raved about it, so I took the chance and told him what it was. He >couldn't finish it. The best casserole I cook has ingredients so far out in left field that I can never tell anyone what is in it - uuntil well after dinner. No, I can't tell you - you might show up at dinner some night. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:11:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5DBNBp014319 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:11:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B912@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:09:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:09:57 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5D9v203197 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:09:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002089D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:09:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051309.hB5D9v203197@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:09:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:01:03 -0800, Betty wrote: >At 04:03 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> At 04:19 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> >> >>> My was about what *I* thought. And it was quite accurate. I >> >>> had no idea that Shriners and Masons were the same thing. (And why >> >>> would their wearing funny hats and driving silly little cars indicate to >> >>> me that they're Masons?) >> >> >> >>Actually, I was being humorous. AFAIK, there's no actual tipoff to the >>Mason connection in the mere fact of the hats and cars. >> >>clo > >Well, crap! How do we identify them then? > >Betty You were reading from right to left again. Once you the connection to the symbols you're set for life. Before you know, there's no tipoff. It's our little secret! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:14:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5DE0Bp014354 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:14:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B90C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:12:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:12:34 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5DCY203443 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:12:34 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:12:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:12:17 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Amahl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB5DE0Bp014354 Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's production of Amahl and the Night Visitors See http://tinyurl.com/xurq I wish you could all come and see it. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5DJKBp014484 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:19:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002089F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:17:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:17:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5DHs203759 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:17:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002089BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:17:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051317.hB5DHs203759@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:17:54 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:01:17 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 12/4/2003 10:19:12 PM Central Standard Time, >lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: ><< >How are the Duncans? >>> > >Mom's giving up smoking again, not due to her health but >to mine; ever since this cold has been hanging on, she's >been worried about me. I told her not to worry; it's my >standard winter cold. My elbow is still bothering me a >bit. Take advantage of her good impulse! If her worry abt yr health will lead to a good effect (quitting), encourage it - instead of saying "don't worry", say "you are such a good mother for doing this for me!" btw, Our standard winter colds, earaches, strep throat bouts, sinus infections, etc. lessened in number and severity once my husband finally came to the decision that he shouldn't smoke in the house. Although health was still affected by smoking, ours was dramatically improved in a short while. So don't be so sure that your mother's idea is needless worry. >Bennie woke me up by playing on my bed; he loves >sleeping as close to me as he can get; Sweetie used >to sleep on my bed, but she sleeps on Mom's bed now. >They still don't get along, but there's been nothing physical, >just growls and barks, and I've been trying to give them >each as much attention as I can get. This is good news - the pecking order is being established, which has to happen. Sweetie will recover and get more comfortable with Bennie, I'm sure. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:23:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5DN4Bp014539 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:23:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002089FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:21:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:21:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5DLc204332 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:21:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002089CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:21:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051321.hB5DLc204332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:21:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Sign To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:54:38 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Re our earlier discussion of my desire to go to Jackson tomorrow, now I >know that I will. I just got : > >********************************* >.... >"Her love for the scores of students she taught over the years here in >Jackson prompted her to contribute this tree,"Johnson said. "We >certainly hope that her former students in the state and city, as well >as everyone, will come and enjoy its beauty this holiday season." >.... >Breland plans to attend the tree-lighting ceremony after Jackson's 2 >p.m. "Holiday Magic" Christmas parade Saturday. >.... >************************************ >from: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0312/05/m05.html > >As one of her former students in the state, I need to go enjoy the >beauty of her tree. This will mean that I'll have to spend Saturday >night since watching a tree lighting after a parade that starts at 2:00 >means darkness would be upon me coming home. But Spencer can handle a >night alone, and I can come up early Sunday morning. Miss Breland, who >is close to 100 years old now, was my eleventh grade English teacher. > Very neat; I hope the weather is lovely and nobody coughs at her. What a terrific present (if she likes that sort of thing)! I'm so glad you live near enough to attend. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:32:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5DWLBp014721 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:32:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6B95B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:30:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:30:55 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5DUt205724 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:30:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B96D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:30:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:46:54 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>It's /maIk/ to me also. So you're saying that somebody who spells >>microphone as microphone says /mIkr{swhwa}fon/? Or are you saying that >>you spell it mikeraphone? > >I do not recall discussing the pronunciation of at all. ??? > >Bethany Natalie is asking why you don't permit knowledge of the full form to influence your pronunciation of the clipped spelling - as we do here, when referring to "open mic nights", which seems to happen about equally with the "Open Mike night" (That seems evisceratingly messy). My guess is that, south or north, the spelling preference isn't yet. clo >>Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:25:29 -0500 >>Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >>Sender: English Language Discussion Group >>From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >>Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers >>In-Reply-To: <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> >>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >>On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> Oh, Natalie - you too? I can't stand for mike. Who started >>> that anyway?I don't understand. It's a clipping of microphone. >>>Where would a come from? Mike to me is a proper name. >>Until a few years ago, everybody said /maIk/ for microphone - and >>spelled it mike. Then all of a sudden it started being spelled >> - and pronounced /mIk/, I assume - since a change in spelling often >> coincides with a change in pronunciation. It's /maIk/ to me. Mic >>spells /mIk/ = Mick. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 07:47:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5DlGBp014982 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:47:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6B9AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 8:45:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:45:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5DZo206408 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:35:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5DYe61025844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:34:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:35:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Natalie is asking why you don't permit knowledge of the full form to >influence your pronunciation of the clipped spelling - as we do here, Oh. It's because of context and history, of course. Consider sic, tic, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:14:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EEWBp015296 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:14:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BAB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:13:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:13:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5ED6212725 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:13:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a0.a06ee9 (25914) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:12:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:12:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/5/2003 7:18:12 AM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << Take advantage of her good impulse! If her worry abt yr health will lead to a good effect (quitting), encourage it - instead of saying "don't worry", say "you are such a good mother for doing this for me!" >> I did get her a week's worth of patches so she won't be so grumpy. When she quits, she's a bear to live with. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EFhBp015335 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:15:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00208B69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:14:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:17 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EEHt13069 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:17 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1a6.1dafa555 (25914) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a6.1dafa555.2d01ecab@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:03 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/5/2003 7:18:12 AM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << This is good news - the pecking order is being established, which has to happen. Sweetie will recover and get more comfortable with Bennie, I'm sure. >> I hope so; Sweetie was just getting over Daisy when Bennie came. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EGDBp015341 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:16:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BAD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:14:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EElt13136 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-212.gwi.net [216.195.152.212]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5EEjGn056264 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:14:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:14:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FCEAEE2.9050001@maynor.net> References: <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I haven't heard of >Masons in my own life -- i.e., I haven't heard of Masons as a group that >currently existed between March 16, 1943, and December 3, 2003. > -- Natalie We have a Masonic Lodge right here in tiny Bar Harbor. Masons loom large in Dan Brown's _Angels and Demons_, a book many people are now reading, having enjoyed his very popular _Da Vinci Code_. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:22:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EMeBp015422 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:22:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BAF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:21:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:21:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EL5t14096 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:21:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-212.gwi.net [216.195.152.212]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5EKwAr067117 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:20:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091721.00b72108@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:21:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <669475131.20031204000401@WordWrite.com> References: <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I find that way weird. I've never associated bridge with the upper crust. > >I do, too. >Karen, practicing fierce optimism You do too what?? Find it way weird or associate it with the upper crust? I understand completely what Clo is saying. I must have been brought up in a similar social strata. I associate tennis, downhill skiing, and playing bridge with the higher classes. My family played poker, at home, with other family members on Saturday nights. On weekday nights, Dads came home from the factory, had some supper, watched a bit of TV, and fell into bed so that they could do it all again the next day. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:25:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EPgBp015447 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:25:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BB2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:24:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:24:16 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EOFt14832 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:24:15 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5EODfv014967 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:24:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001a01c3bb3b$8dc57b20$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312050911.hB59BO231980@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:24:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:34 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > >> > > > All things edible are good. > >> > > > >> > > Mark(land) 7:19! > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Richard > >> > > >> > Hey, that's neat. I like that. > >> > If not misunderstood. > >> > > >> > - D. M. > >> > >> Certainly makes it memorable. You'll be cropping up > >> in sermons, next. Boy, you'd love that! > >__________________________________ > >I think not. > > > > - D. M. > > Why not? Come on in - the water's fine! > clo May I quote you? Clo 6:19 - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:31:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EVCBp015523 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:31:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BB64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:29:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 281671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:29:46 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5ETjt15657 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:29:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5ETifv027241 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:29:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c3bb3c$52b91900$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> Subject: Re: wiki-wiki Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:30:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Tooting own horn: Socialtext just got an PC Magazine Editor's Choice pick > in a roundup of wiki services: > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1402872,00.asp > > Pete toot toot hurray! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:35:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EZQBp015589 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:35:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00208C2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:33:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:33:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EXot16694 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:33:50 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5EXkrk010635 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:33:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:33:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <944780124.20031205083349@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312050913.hB59DL232310@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312050913.hB59DL232310@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > My son's friend hated all tomato products, and was sure as a 5 yr old > can be that catsup had none, in spite of the misleading picture on the > label. I can see that.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:37:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Eb3Bp015625 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:37:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BB9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:35:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:35:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EZat16930 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:35:36 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5EZXrk012429 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:35:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:35:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <231907503.20031205083538@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >>Bingo. The draft entry for the new edition gives the first citation as >>1961. The citation itself says "Abbr. mike or mic". > How many citations are there for the American South? East Tennessee? Surely even East Tennessee is not more than 30 years behind the rest of the country? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:40:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EeoBp015675 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:40:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00208C7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:39:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:39:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EdNt17589 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:39:23 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5EcfKV004282 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:38:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:39:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1269024651.20031205083929@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Amahl In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's production of Amahl and the Night Visitors > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq > I wish you could all come and see it. Me, too, Kaspar. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:41:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Ef7Bp015683 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:41:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BBAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:39:41 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Edft17616 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:39:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5EdXfv019005 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:39:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005201c3bb3d$b2a89e20$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312050900.hB590H230461@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:39:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Towns don't actually technically have or not have consciousness. People do; > and you can't generalize from your own consciousness to everyone else's. Both > Natalie and Doris can't recall observing or knowing about class distinction > as children. Natalie tentatively puts this down to having grown up in a > homogeneous neighborhood. > > I look back on childhood and draw conclusions about experiences and > associations that may have been class-related. IMO that's sort of apples > and oranges to what I may have known as a child. > > clo Some people are more inclined to compartmentalize than others. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:42:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EgJBp015699 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:42:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BBBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:40:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:40:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Eeot17810 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:40:51 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5Eel6V025738 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:40:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:40:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Natalie is asking why you don't permit knowledge of the full form to >>influence your pronunciation of the clipped spelling - as we do here, > Oh. It's because of context and history, of course. Consider sic, tic, > etc. Are those shortened forms? Of what? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:43:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EhNBp015704 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:43:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BBDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:41:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:41:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Efvt18168 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:41:57 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5EfFKV006634 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:41:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:42:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1264943617.20031205084203@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > We have a Masonic Lodge right here in tiny Bar Harbor. Masons loom large > in Dan Brown's _Angels and Demons_, a book many people are now reading, > having enjoyed his very popular _Da Vinci Code_. I listened to "Digital Fortress" after "Da Vinci Code". What a stinker of a book. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:44:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Ei2Bp015710 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:44:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BBE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:42:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:42:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5EgZt18348 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:42:35 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18a.22eab37b (14374) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:42:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18a.22eab37b.2d01f34f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:42:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One thing we're doing is treating Bennie as if he were a puppy until he gets acclimated here. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:44:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EiQBp015715 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:44:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BBE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:42:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:43:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Eh0t18458 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:43:00 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5Egurk019043 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:42:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:43:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1087795548.20031205084302@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091721.00b72108@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091721.00b72108@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I associate tennis, downhill > skiing, and playing bridge with the higher classes. Actually, I do, too. > My family played poker, at home, with other family members on > Saturday nights. Mine didn't. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:45:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EjPBp015750 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:45:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BBDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:43:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:43:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ehxt18689 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:43:59 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5Ehqrk019869 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:43:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:43:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <681723262.20031205084359@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <18a.22eab37b.2d01f34f@aol.com> References: <18a.22eab37b.2d01f34f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > One thing we're doing is treating Bennie as if he were a puppy > until he gets acclimated here. Isn't he a puppy? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:48:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Em9Bp015771 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:48:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BC00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:46:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ekht19136 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:46:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5EkdAt071465; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:46:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205093835.00b1cdf0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:43:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCFF861.1070104@maynor.net> References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:15 PM 12/4/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >It's /maIk/ to me also. So you're saying that somebody who spells >microphone as microphone says /mIkr{swhwa}fon/? Or are you saying that >you spell it mikeraphone? Having her roots in Texas, where their principal product says nukular, perhaps she does... For what it's worth, Bookworm recognizes "mic" as well as "mike." It does not list a pronunciation preference. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:50:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EoBBp015780 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:50:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BC14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:48:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:48:45 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5Emit19689 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:48:44 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 06:48:38 PST Message-ID: <20031205144838.39886.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: wiki-wiki To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Tooting own horn: Socialtext just got an PC Magazine > Editor's Choice pick > in a roundup of wiki services: > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1402872,00.asp > > Pete Woooo, Pete! Good work! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:54:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EskBp015842 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:54:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00208CDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:53:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:53:20 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5ErKt20703 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:53:20 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5ErHGp063666; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:53:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205095159.00b46bb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:53:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <231907503.20031205083538@WordWrite.com> References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:35 AM 12/5/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote, while practicing with her new nukular mikeraphone: >Surely even East Tennessee is not more than 30 years behind the rest >of the country? ROFL cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 08:57:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5EvJBp015870 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:57:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BC42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:55:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:55:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Etrt21111 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:55:53 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5Etjrk001280 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:55:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:55:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1884289043.20031205085551@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205093835.00b1cdf0@pop.gwi.net> References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205093835.00b1cdf0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Having her roots in Texas, where their principal product says nukular, > perhaps she does... Please. The Shrub is NOT Texas' principal product. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:00:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5F0nBp015933 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:00:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BC83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 9:59:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284411 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:59:23 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5ExNt21862 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:59:23 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 06:59:17 PST Message-ID: <20031205145917.99562.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:59:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Mom's giving up smoking again, not due to her health > but > to mine; Hey, if she can quit for any reason, more power to her. It's certainly not good for your health, either. My elbow is still bothering me a bit. You should have it looked at one a non-emergency basis. You don't want it to turn into a chronic problem. > Bennie woke me up by playing on my bed; he loves > sleeping as close to me as he can get; Sweetie used > to sleep on my bed, but she sleeps on Mom's bed now. > They still don't get along, but there's been nothing > physical, > just growls and barks, and I've been trying to give > them > each as much attention as I can get. As long as there is a DMZ, I guess you are safe. > > How are you doing? I'm doing good, thank you. Let us know when you have your new DVD player, and what your choice of first movie to watch will be. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:03:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5F3bBp015958 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:03:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00208D34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:02:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:02:06 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5F26t22353 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:02:06 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPF00LO5GFFAN@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:57:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:57:53 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: One more pizza thing To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <5e0fe594da.594da5e0fe@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't think they have personal sized pizzas. The smallest might be a 14-inch pie. I don't think you can eat that alone. Even I couldn't eat that alone, and I can put away quantity. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor Date: Thursday, December 4, 2003 6:15 pm Subject: Re: One more pizza thing > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Natalie, Another thing I wanted to reply to but couldn't > (reasons unclear): Re John's Pizza, they don't sell slices. Pies > only. So it will only be of use to you if you are not alone. > However, there are many good slice places in the city -- one > favorite is Joe's at the corner of Bleecker and 6th Avenue. > > How big are the pizzas? I can eat a whole small one, unless it's > thick-crusted and filled with a ton of toppings. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:23:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FN8Bp016218 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:23:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00208E53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:21:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:21:41 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5FLNj25568 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:21:23 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.aa.25c2e8ec (4312) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:21:14 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:21:14 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/5/2003 8:44:12 AM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Isn't he a puppy? >> We got conflicting accounts: one said that he was 15 months old; the other said two years old. He's as energetic as a puppy, and he loves to go out, even when it's 32 degrees and windy. The other night, he saw the neighbor's dogs through the window, so he had to go out and check the courtyard to see if things were OK. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:23:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FNlBp016224 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:23:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00208E56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:22:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:22:21 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5FMLj25674 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:22:21 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:22:15 PST Message-ID: <20031205152215.78869.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Sign To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD071FE.1090600@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Re our earlier discussion of my desire to go to > Jackson tomorrow, now I > know that I will. I just got : > > ********************************* > .... > "Her love for the scores of students she taught over > the years here in > Jackson prompted her to contribute this > tree,"Johnson said. "We > certainly hope that her former students in the state > and city, as well > as everyone, will come and enjoy its beauty this > holiday season." > .... > Breland plans to attend the tree-lighting ceremony > after Jackson's 2 > p.m. "Holiday Magic" Christmas parade Saturday. > .... > ************************************ > from: > http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0312/05/m05.html > > As one of her former students in the state, I need > to go enjoy the > beauty of her tree. This will mean that I'll have > to spend Saturday > night since watching a tree lighting after a parade > that starts at 2:00 > means darkness would be upon me coming home. But > Spencer can handle a > night alone, and I can come up early Sunday morning. > Miss Breland, who > is close to 100 years old now, was my eleventh grade > English teacher. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, you must go, and I think you will be so glad of the experience. Spencer always understands, anyway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:34:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FYuBp016387 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:34:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BDC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:33:29 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5FXTj27858 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:33:29 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:33:23 PST Message-ID: <20031205153323.82643.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:33:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Amahl To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1269024651.20031205083929@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's > production of Amahl and the Night Visitors > > > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq > > > I wish you could all come and see it. > > Me, too, Kaspar. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion on which to convene. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:37:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FbgBp016414 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:37:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BE08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:36:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:36:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5FaFj29335 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:36:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:36:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL: academic discounts for software Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:36:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Betty Clark [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:19 PM > At 01:36 PM 12/4/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > >Thanks, clo! Thanks, Phil! > > > >Pete > > I checked and you have to be staff or student here to take > advantage of the > educational discounts given at our store. This is not the case with Microsoft's Action Pack. A year or two ago you had to enter a Federal Tax ID # to indicate you were a business (even an S-Corp) but they've since relaxed it such that you can simply put a company name on it. I use my company name and put "attn: Internet Services" to add legitimacy should questions arise. This paid off recently when I had a CD start to crack from the inside ring outward and I had to call for a replacement. After asking for my account number, they started to review my account then saw the company name & "attn:" and said, "Never mind" and went forward with reordering the replacement (including a very profuse apology for the disk cracking). That is one aspect I've experienced with both IBM and Microsoft over the years: once you are "in the family", they are very generous with what they'll make accessible and gracious with supplying replacements. I know they are tyrants in many circles, but when you rely upon their products for income it makes it easier to play by the system. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:39:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Fd7Bp016453 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:39:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BE09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:37:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:37:31 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5FbVj29682 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:37:31 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.d4.a1c768 (4312) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:37:18 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:37:18 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/5/2003 8:59:56 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I'm doing good, thank you. Let us know when you have your new DVD player, and what your choice of first movie to watch will be. :-] >> Probably Big O, the first three episodes. I already have that and am buying the second three today. I want to see what Cartoon Network cut out of their version of the first series. Big O is an anime series that started in 1999. It's about Roger Smith, the top negotiator for Paradigm City. Everyone's memories were wiped out forty years before the series takes place. Roger is also the pilot of a Megadeus (giant mecha [robot]) that was left from the time before the catastrophe which wiped out everyone's memories. Assisting Roger is his ward, R. Dorothy Waynewright (an android copy of the original Dorothy Waynewright; R. Dorothy was created by the original Dorothy's father in grief over her passing), and his butler Norman (who keeps Big O (the mecha) in proper working order. The first series was not a hit in Japan but was a big hit here. So Cartoon Network has hounded the original producers to create a second series that would start immediately after the first series ended, right at a cliffhanger in which Roger, R. Dorothy, and Big O were to confront three Megadeuses that came from outside of Paradigm City. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:39:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FdjBp016462 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:39:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00208EAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:38:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:38:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5FcIj29843 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:38:18 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5Fc26V021093 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:38:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:38:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1779981819.20031205093808@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wiki-wiki In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205004823.04cdbe60@192.168.1.99> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Tooting own horn: Socialtext just got an PC Magazine Editor's Choice pick > in a roundup of wiki services: > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1402872,00.asp YaY! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:41:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FfWBp016510 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:41:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6BE2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:40:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Fe5j30287 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:40:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5FdnW1030554 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:39:49 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5FdmWq030531; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:39:48 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205073438.00b32860@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:35:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Amahl In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:12 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's production of Amahl and >the Night Visitors > >See http://tinyurl.com/xurq > >I wish you could all come and see it. > > >BrP > > > Me, too. You didn't give us enough advance notice. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FiSBp016533 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:44:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BE57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:42:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:42:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Fgwj30979 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:42:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5FguW1001390 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:42:56 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5FgsWq001323; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:42:55 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205073744.00b4dbf8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:38:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <005201c3bb3d$b2a89e20$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <200312050900.hB590H230461@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:39 AM 12/5/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > Towns don't actually technically have or not have consciousness. >People do; > > and you can't generalize from your own consciousness to everyone >else's. Both > > Natalie and Doris can't recall observing or knowing about class >distinction > > as children. Natalie tentatively puts this down to having grown up in >a > > homogeneous neighborhood. > > > > I look back on childhood and draw conclusions about experiences and > > associations that may have been class-related. IMO that's sort of >apples > > and oranges to what I may have known as a child. > > > > clo > >Some people are more inclined to >compartmentalize than others. > > - D. M. Yes, it's more important to some for sure. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 09:51:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5FpVBp016637 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:51:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BE97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:50:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:50:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Fo4j32760 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:50:04 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5FnLKV013209 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:49:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:50:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <745580010.20031205095008@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Amahl In-Reply-To: <20031205153323.82643.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031205153323.82643.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's >> production of Amahl and the Night Visitors >> >> > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq >> >> > I wish you could all come and see it. >> >> Me, too, Kaspar. >> >> Karen, >> practicing fierce optimism > I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion > on which to convene. In addition to the play, the windows in this church are Very Nice. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:02:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5G20Bp016828 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:02:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BEFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:00:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:00:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5G0Xj02366 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:00:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5G0KW1020352 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:00:20 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5G0HWq020313; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:00:18 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205075438.00b5c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:55:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCDCC14.7080500@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:42 AM 12/3/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>Where are you staying? > >The Wellington. I've stayed there before and found it quite pleasant. >It's also a super location if you happen to be going to anything at >Carnegie Hall, which I think I'm not since there doesn't seem to be much >happening there at that time. The Wellington is tricky re prices -- >sometimes there are great bargains but not always. I can't remember now >exactly what my bargain was -- have that info somewhere, I guess -- but >it was pretty good. If you just go to their website, though, you >sometimes can get the impression that all the rooms are quite expensive >(or at least from my pov of what constitutes expensiveness). That's >because the site lists only what is available on the dates you're >interested in -- like if the cheaper rooms are already booked, you don't >know they exist. Can't make it this year! Too much going on suddenly plus we're wanting to save funds for Alaska in May. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:02:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5G22Bp016831 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:02:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00208FAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:00:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:00:35 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5FoZj00389 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:50:35 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5FnQ61005073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:49:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:50:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Oh. It's because of context and history, of course. Consider sic, tic, >> etc. > >Are those shortened forms? Of what? Good question. They vary, I suspect. Sic is Latin. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:08:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5G8NBp016916 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:08:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BF4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:06:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:06:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5G6uj03437 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:06:56 -0500 Received: from cs666847-226.austin.rr.com (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5G6drk011254 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:06:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:06:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1110248429.20031205100644@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> Oh. It's because of context and history, of course. Consider sic, tic, >>> etc. >> >>Are those shortened forms? Of what? > Good question. They vary, I suspect. Sic is Latin. It is. I didn't think that either of them were shortened forms, so I don't know how you can reasonably analogize. OTOH, I can't immediately think of another word with the long vowel in the middle, though I know there are some that were derived the same way. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GDGBp016976 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:13:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BF75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:11:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:11:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GBnj04939 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:11:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00208FEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:11:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051611.hB5GBnj04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:11:49 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:12:51 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 12/5/2003 7:18:12 AM Central Standard Time, >clostran@SYR.EDU writes: ><< >Take advantage of her good impulse! If her worry abt yr health >will lead to a good effect (quitting), encourage it - instead >of saying "don't worry", say "you are such a good mother for >doing this for me!" >>> > >I did get her a week's worth of patches so she won't be so >grumpy. When she quits, she's a bear to live with. Yes, I sympathize! There are long-term changes in the brain that have to be undone. If she sticks it out for the week, will you get her more and urge her to keep going? btw, lots of crunchy food (like celery, which has no calories) can be helpful in working off some of that irritable energy. I also chewed cinnamon sticks, which felt like a cigarette in my mouth, when I was quitting. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:14:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GEgBp017003 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:14:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BF7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GDFj05266 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020902D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:13:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051613.hB5GDFj05266@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:13:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:24:54 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:43:34 -0600, Doris Markland > wrote: >> >> >> > > > All things edible are good. >> >> > > >> >> > > Mark(land) 7:19! >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > Richard >> >> > >> >> > Hey, that's neat. I like that. >> >> > If not misunderstood. >> >> > >> >> > - D. M. >> >> >> >> Certainly makes it memorable. You'll be cropping up >> >> in sermons, next. Boy, you'd love that! >> >__________________________________ >> >I think not. >> > >> > - D. M. >> >> Why not? Come on in - the water's fine! >> clo > >May I quote you? Clo 6:19 > > - D. M. Yes, but with correct citation: Clo 9:30 -clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:22:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GM4Bp017194 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:22:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BFE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:20:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:20:37 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GKbj06917 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:20:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BFE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:20:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051620.hB5GKbj06917@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:20:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:39:50 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> Towns don't actually technically have or not have consciousness. >People do; >> and you can't generalize from your own consciousness to everyone >else's. Both >> Natalie and Doris can't recall observing or knowing about class >distinction >> as children. Natalie tentatively puts this down to having grown up in >a >> homogeneous neighborhood. >> >> I look back on childhood and draw conclusions about experiences and >> associations that may have been class-related. IMO that's sort of >apples >> and oranges to what I may have known as a child. >> >> clo > >Some people are more inclined to >compartmentalize than others. > > - D. M. Hmm, an interesting premise. I see patternmaking as the basic unit of cognition; I'd expect people to compartmentalize in different areas, but not less overall. eg, is it compartmentalizing to put childhood memories inside the set of items that can be analyzed politically, or is it compartmentalizing to wall them off from that category? Is it compartmentalizing to separate political and social facts from those things that are worthy objects of attention? Perhaps more relevant, do see a change in understanding of a situation over time and maturational stages as uninteresting, not worth compartmentalizing? That's the reading I get from the juxtaposition of your response to my comment. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:25:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GPuBp017252 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:25:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6BFFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:24:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:24:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GOTj07679 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:24:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020905D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:24:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051624.hB5GOTj07679@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:24:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Amahl To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:33:23 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's >> production of Amahl and the Night Visitors >> >> > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq >> >> > I wish you could all come and see it. >> >> Me, too, Kaspar. >> >> Karen, >> practicing fierce optimism > >I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion >on which to convene. > There will be other Open Hand performances. Perhaps we could arrange a Syrafest during a less wintry production. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:27:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GR4Bp017271 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:27:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6BFFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:25:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:25:33 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GPWj07932 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:25:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5GPSfv011697 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:25:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3bb4c$7fcdacc0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312051613.hB5GDFj05266@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:26:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> > >> Why not? Come on in - the water's fine! > >> clo > > > >May I quote you? Clo 6:19 > > > > - D. M. > > Yes, but with correct citation: > Clo 9:30 > > -clo :-) - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:27:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GRsBp017293 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:27:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C019@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:26:28 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5GQRj08304 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:26:27 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:26:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:26:21 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Amahl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB5GRsBp017293 Great idea clo We're doing Magic Flute with the Syracuse Opera in the spring :-) BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/05/03 11:24AM >>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:33:23 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's >> production of Amahl and the Night Visitors >> >> > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq >> >> > I wish you could all come and see it. >> >> Me, too, Kaspar. >> >> Karen, >> practicing fierce optimism > >I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion >on which to convene. > There will be other Open Hand performances. Perhaps we could arrange a Syrafest during a less wintry production. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GSuBp017300 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C021@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GRTj08579 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002090B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051627.hB5GRTj08579@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Amahl To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:26:21 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great idea clo We're doing Magic Flute with the Syracuse Opera in the spring > >:-) > > >BrP > > > >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/05/03 11:24AM >>> >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:33:23 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > >>--- Karen Kay wrote: >>> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >>> > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's >>> production of Amahl and the Night Visitors >>> >>> > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq >>> >>> > I wish you could all come and see it. >>> >>> Me, too, Kaspar. >>> >>> Karen, >>> practicing fierce optimism >> >>I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion >>on which to convene. >> > >There will be other Open Hand performances. Perhaps we >could arrange a Syrafest during a less wintry production. > >clo YES! I bought season tickets to the Opry on the strength of it! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GTGBp017316 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:29:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C022@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GHnj06085 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:17:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5GGe61015417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:16:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <1110248429.20031205100644@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> <1110248429.20031205100644@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Good question. They vary, I suspect. Sic is Latin. > >It is. I didn't think that either of them were shortened forms, so I >don't know how you can reasonably analogize. OTOH, I can't immediately I can do it because the forms are in my head. Language and logic have little to do with each other. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GUSBp017350 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:30:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C01A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:29:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:29:00 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.msstate.edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GSxj08819 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net (ws113-89.lee.msstate.edu [130.18.89.113]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id hB5GSwwi011386 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD0B24A.B79348B4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:28:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: TWD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Snoozing on the cold grass: http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GUSBq017350 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:30:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C02D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:29:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:56 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GSuj08807 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5GStAr089223 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205112813.00b6d090@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:28:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <200312041532.hB4FW8p05297@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many >other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level >as well. --clo Thanks for the info. There are still Grange Halls in this area of Maine. I never knew exactly what they were beyond social and rural. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:35:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5GZmBp017401 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:35:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C073@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:34:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 293905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:34:22 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5GYLj10218 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:34:21 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7C7692B92A; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1492B926 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:34:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:34:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: class and childhood Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm still thinking about what Doris said: she was in a small town and there were no class differences. I was in two small towns as a child, one in South Carolina and one in Wisconsin. The population of the Wisconsin one was something like 626 and I don't think the SC one was bigger, maybe smaller. Anyway, Doris, in your town there weren't poor people? Or all were poor? No 'wrong side of the tracks'? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 10:39:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Gd3Bp017436 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:39:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C083@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Gbaj10877 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5GbYAr090751 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205113404.00bcd1f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5710542108.20031204100204@WordWrite.com> References: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income > > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? > >This is one of the problems I have been wrestling with. I do not think >like a poor person, even though I am. --Karen, practicing >fierce optimism That's an interesting problem indeed. It's easier to be raised poor and find yourself better off as an adult than it is to be raised wealthy and find yourself poor as an adult. I have an ex-friend who went from the wealthier classes to the working poor. She had no idea how to live as a poor person. For example, she would spend money on getting her apartment carpets professionally cleaned two or more times a year. I don't think she even knew about the machines you can rent at the grocery store in order to do it yourself. And she very definitely preferred to not eat at all than eat simply. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:02:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5H2FBp017877 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:02:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002091E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:00:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5H0lj14540 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002091E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051700.hB5H0lj14540@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:00:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: TWD To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:28:58 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Snoozing on the cold grass: > >http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm Something caught his attention! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:02:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5H2bBp017891 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:02:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002091B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:01:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:01:10 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5H1Aj14660 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:01:10 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:01:04 PST Message-ID: <20031205170104.56328.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: TWD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD0B24A.B79348B4@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Snoozing on the cold grass: > > http://www.ie.msstate.edu/netcam/netcam.htm He looks quite content. This one of his more polished ploys, to suck in unsuspecting undergrads. What a trooper! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:05:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5H55Bp017913 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:05:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002091D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:03:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:03:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5H3cj14954 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:03:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00209205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:03:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051703.hB5H3cj14954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:03:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: class and childhood To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:34:20 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >I'm still thinking about what Doris said: she was in a small town and >there were no class differences. > >I was in two small towns as a child, one in South Carolina and one in >Wisconsin. The population of the Wisconsin one was something like 626 and >I don't think the SC one was bigger, maybe smaller. > >Anyway, Doris, in your town there weren't poor people? Or all were poor? >No 'wrong side of the tracks'? > >Ann I think (and admittedly I'm not up to researching the archives at the mo; in mid-project) that Doris was talking about awareness of class, not differences in income in the abstract. iirc, she and the people she went to hs with have discussed and agreed that afatk, nobody was aware, cared, discussed, or categorized people in this way. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5H7bBp017944 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:07:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00209224@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:05:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:05:23 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5H5Nj15471 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:05:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C19B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:05:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051705.hB5H5Nj15471@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:05:22 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income >> > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? >> >>This is one of the problems I have been wrestling with. I do not think >>like a poor person, even though I am. --Karen, practicing >>fierce optimism > >That's an interesting problem indeed. It's easier to be raised poor and >find yourself better off as an adult than it is to be raised wealthy and >find yourself poor as an adult. I have an ex-friend who went from the >wealthier classes to the working poor. She had no idea how to live as a >poor person. For example, she would spend money on getting her apartment >carpets professionally cleaned two or more times a year. I don't think she >even knew about the machines you can rent at the grocery store in order to >do it yourself. And she very definitely preferred to not eat at all than >eat simply. > > >bonnie And even that - the notion of getting carpets cleaned at all, even w/ a rented machine, is way above the experience of poverty for many. It's shocking how expensive it is to be clean - a fact people who have not been there can't appreciate very well. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:07:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5H7lBp017947 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:07:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C1A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:06:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:06:20 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5H6Kj15776 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:06:20 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPF00GKJM6S5V@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:02:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:02:07 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <675176c1bc.6c1bc67517@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I see him for the first time! 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Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:12:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HC7Bp017995 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C1D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:10:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:10:40 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HAej16583 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:10:40 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPF00ADSMDR1D@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:06:27 -0500 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:06:27 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: TWD To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <6550e6817d.6817d6550e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Where'd he go? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HCqBp018006 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:12:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00209258@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:24 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HBOj16691 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C1B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051711.hB5HBOj16691@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:24 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:05:22 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500, bonniev wrote: > >>> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> > Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income >>> > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? >>> >>>This is one of the problems I have been wrestling with. I do not think >>>like a poor person, even though I am. --Karen, practicing >>>fierce optimism >> >>That's an interesting problem indeed. It's easier to be raised poor and >>find yourself better off as an adult than it is to be raised wealthy and >>find yourself poor as an adult. I have an ex-friend who went from the >>wealthier classes to the working poor. She had no idea how to live as a >>poor person. For example, she would spend money on getting her apartment >>carpets professionally cleaned two or more times a year. I don't think she >>even knew about the machines you can rent at the grocery store in order to >>do it yourself. And she very definitely preferred to not eat at all than >>eat simply. >> >> >>bonnie > > >And even that - the notion of getting carpets cleaned at all, even w/ a >rented machine, is way above the experience of poverty for many. It's >shocking how expensive it is to be clean - a fact people who have not been >there can't appreciate very well. > >clo Interestingly, a late-night discussion with some newly met persons led to a comparison between urban extreme poverty locally and the experience of a person who was in the Honduras in the '80s, and saw the abject poverty of the poor there. My interlocutor finally copped to being in the "lost battalion" of soldiers who were illegally assisting insurgents against the Sandanista government, and while he clearly had a social conscience made no connections at all between his presence and role and the events that create and perpetuate the inequities he decried. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:28:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HSABp018268 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C25E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HQhj19782 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:26:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5HQeGp088825; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:26:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205122338.00b49680@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:25:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312051611.hB5GBnj04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:11 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >btw, lots of crunchy food (like celery, which has no calories) >can be helpful in working off some of that irritable energy. >I also chewed cinnamon sticks, which felt like a cigarette >in my mouth, when I was quitting. Be careful of the cinnamon. I used those as well for a while---until the nearly unremitting heartburn set in. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:29:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HTaBp018298 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:29:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:28:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:28:09 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HS9j20066 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:28:09 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5HS6A3005955 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01c3bb55$3f6b0b60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: class and childhood Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm still thinking about what Doris said: she was in a small town and > there were no class differences. > > I was in two small towns as a child, one in South Carolina and one in > Wisconsin. The population of the Wisconsin one was something like 626 and > I don't think the SC one was bigger, maybe smaller. > > Anyway, Doris, in your town there weren't poor people? Or all were poor? > No 'wrong side of the tracks'? > > Ann Actually, no. My one grandmother lived on one side of the tracks, my other one lived on the other side. No difference in their status. Fact is, I don't think we had any really rich people or any really poor. Maybe most were low average. I don't know. So maybe homogenous is the word. Nevertheless it shaped the attitudes of people who grew up there. The thing is, I don't remember giving things names. (With the exception of "town drunk", which stood out because very few people there drank at all) Rich bitch? Never heard of that attitude. People there who owned several farms were like anyone else and in church they sat right by the hired men (and anyone else). Blue collar workers? No, here most were blue overall workers, and that's a different climate. I didn't know any ladies who had maids or cleaning ladies. But farm wives often had "hired girls" to help with the household chores . . . so the wife could go out into the field and husk corn or drive the tractor. Hardly a status thing. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:31:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HV8Bp018341 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:31:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C286@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:29:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:29:41 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HTej20309 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:29:40 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E37E72B901; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99D42B58D for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:29:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:29:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: class and childhood In-Reply-To: <200312051703.hB5H3cj14954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I think (and admittedly I'm not up to researching the archives at the mo; > in mid-project) that Doris was talking about awareness of class, not > differences in income in the abstract. iirc, she and the people she went > to hs with have discussed and agreed that afatk, nobody was aware, cared, > discussed, or categorized people in this way. Oh. Like, people might have used language like "she comes from a good family" or "they're poor as dirt", but they didn't think of these as class distinctions? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:31:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HVIBp018345 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:31:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:29:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:29:51 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HToj20328 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:29:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5HTmA3009602 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:29:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01c3bb55$7c2f6140$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312051620.hB5GKbj06917@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:30:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >> Towns don't actually technically have or not have consciousness. > >People do; > >> and you can't generalize from your own consciousness to everyone > >else's. Both > >> Natalie and Doris can't recall observing or knowing about class > >distinction > >> as children. Natalie tentatively puts this down to having grown up in > >a > >> homogeneous neighborhood. > >> > >> I look back on childhood and draw conclusions about experiences and > >> associations that may have been class-related. IMO that's sort of > >apples > >> and oranges to what I may have known as a child. > >> > >> clo > > > >Some people are more inclined to > >compartmentalize than others. > > > > - D. M. > > Hmm, an interesting premise. I see patternmaking as the basic unit of > cognition; I'd expect people to compartmentalize in different areas, but > not less overall. eg, is it compartmentalizing to put childhood memories > inside the set of items that can be analyzed politically, or is it > compartmentalizing to wall them off from that category? Is it > compartmentalizing to separate political and social facts from those things > that are worthy objects of attention? > > Perhaps more relevant, do see a change in understanding of a situation > over time and maturational stages as uninteresting, not worth > compartmentalizing? That's the reading I get from the juxtaposition of your > response to my comment. > > clo Change is almost assured as one goes through life, and memories can be dim or distorted. But what I'm talking about is that for some people life experience sort of flows through them, while others want to catch it, analyze it, break it down, give it names, and put it into boxes. Two people could have grown up in the same environment and be different in this respect. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:37:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HbTBp018499 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C2BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:36:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:36:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ha0j21393 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:36:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:35:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:18 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > >>of mutancy. That to me was exremely telling. Exact same words but > > > > Curiosity question (from the Words-L type of fun) - > seriously: what does > > "exact same" or "same exact" serve which "same" or "the > same" does not? I > > have heard it in movies from the 60s and 70s so I know it's > not horribly > > old. > > Old? I've never thought of it as old or young. I think it's > something > I've heard and said all of my life -- as in it was around > years ago and > is still around. What it serves that either one of the words > by itself > wouldn't is emphasis. If someone hands me a rope and sends me down the street to get another piece the same size, that what they'll get. If someone sends me down to get one the "exact same" size, I'll be asking them what "exact same" means vs. the first request. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:43:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HhEBp018608 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:43:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C2DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:41:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Hfkj22351 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:41:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:41:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:41:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:04 PM > On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > There are now places which can outperform McDonald's. One > of them is > > Culver's. Research in some business reports has shown when > Culver's and > > Chez Ronald are in close proximity, Culver's wins nearly every time. > > I find this shocking; the Culver's here sucks rocks. If one hopes to get inside & order at the Fort Benjamin Harrison (IIRC, is the facility screwing up the military paychecks these days) it would be wise not to do so when there are certain cycles of activity: church(es) let out, end of "soccer afternoon" (Saturday and Sunday), supper (after school), etc. If they were to put a Culver's next to each Ritter's, Ritter's[1] wouldn't have a need to open next Spring. [1] especially when considering Ritter's cannot serve anything but custard and Culver's can sell custard + *. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:49:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HnDBp018717 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:49:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C326@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:47:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:47:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HlZj23818 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:47:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5HlX2f006831 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:47:33 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5HlWJC006801; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:47:33 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205094201.00b70c28@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:42:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Amahl In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What are the dates? Maybe it will jive with my spring break. Maybe we can do SnowBash, too! Betty At 11:26 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great idea clo We're doing Magic Flute with the Syracuse Opera in the spring > >:-) > > >BrP > > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/05/03 11:24AM >>> >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:33:23 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > > >--- Karen Kay wrote: > >> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's > >> production of Amahl and the Night Visitors > >> > >> > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq > >> > >> > I wish you could all come and see it. > >> > >> Me, too, Kaspar. > >> > >> Karen, > >> practicing fierce optimism > > > >I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion > >on which to convene. > > > >There will be other Open Hand performances. Perhaps we >could arrange a Syrafest during a less wintry production. > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 11:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5HooBp018744 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:50:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:49:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 300835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:49:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HnMj24148 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:49:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.91]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPFNVV03.1DZ for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:43:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3FD0C517.3978C5C1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:49:11 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205093835.00b1cdf0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Having her roots in Texas, where their principal product says nukular, It was good enough for Jimmuh Cartuh. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5I4jBp018967 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:04:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C363@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:54:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:54:08 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5Hs8j24988 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:54:08 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:54:08 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:53:59 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Amahl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB5I4jBp018967 April 23 and 25 BrP >>> bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU 12/05/03 12:42PM >>> What are the dates? Maybe it will jive with my spring break. Maybe we can do SnowBash, too! Betty At 11:26 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Great idea clo We're doing Magic Flute with the Syracuse Opera in the spring > >:-) > > >BrP > > > > >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/05/03 11:24AM >>> >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:33:23 -0800, Lynne Weber >wrote: > > >--- Karen Kay wrote: > >> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> > Tonight is opening night for Open Hand Theater's > >> production of Amahl and the Night Visitors > >> > >> > See http://tinyurl.com/xurq > >> > >> > I wish you could all come and see it. > >> > >> Me, too, Kaspar. > >> > >> Karen, > >> practicing fierce optimism > > > >I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion > >on which to convene. > > > >There will be other Open Hand performances. Perhaps we >could arrange a Syrafest during a less wintry production. > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5I4jBp018966 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:04:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C366@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HrXj24884 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:33 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:28 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E9@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:13 AM > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:33:08 -0600, Karen Kay > wrote: > > >On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >> --- Karen Kay wrote: > >>> It reminds me of my Dad--I made him eggplant > >>> parmesan once, and he > >>> raved about it, so I took the chance and told him > >>> what it was. He > >>> couldn't finish it. > > > >> Was it just the word eggplant that turned him off? > > > >Yes. It's on the list of foods he didn't eat. > > > >Karen, > >practicing fierce optimism > > My son's friend hated all tomato products, and was sure as a 5 yr old > can be that catsup had none, in spite of the misleading picture on the > label. Has anyone tried to give kids green catsup to use? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5I4jBp018968 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:04:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C380@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:55:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:55:26 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HtQj25356 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:55:26 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Serial Killer or Programming Geek? Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:55:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ It's more fun if you turn the speakers on. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5I4jBq018965 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:04:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C39C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:58:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:58:12 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HwCj25940 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:58:12 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120517580501500bo8j5e>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:58:05 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204201311.03749e90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:07:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <3FCFFA23.2020607@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204185013.035fca50@mail.istori.com> <3FCFC0A8.4050709@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204185013.035fca50@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >My main point is to thank you for Mozilla. You're very welcome, of course, even though I didn't have anything to do with creating it. :) If you're *really* enthusiastic, you can donate to the Mozilla Foundation: . It's even tax-deductible. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5I4jBp018965 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:04:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C35C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5HrFj24844 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5Hr32f015213 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:53:03 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5Hr1JC015143; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:53:01 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205094734.00b89eb8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:48:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <001e01c3bb55$7c2f6140$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <200312051620.hB5GKbj06917@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:30 AM 12/5/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > But what I'm talking about is that for some people life experience sort >of flows through them, while others want to catch it, analyze it, break >it down, give it names, and put it into boxes. Two people could have >grown up in the same environment and be different in this respect. > > - D. M. Absolutely. My sister and I had totally different parents. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:11:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IBQBp019096 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C3F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:09:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 302721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:09:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5I9xj27945 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:09:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00209442@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:09:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051809.hB5I9xj27945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:09:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:25:10 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 11:11 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>btw, lots of crunchy food (like celery, which has no calories) >>can be helpful in working off some of that irritable energy. >>I also chewed cinnamon sticks, which felt like a cigarette >>in my mouth, when I was quitting. > >Be careful of the cinnamon. I used those as well for a while---until the >nearly unremitting heartburn set in. > >cwv "spit, don't swallow" clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IHABp019218 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:17:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C42A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:42 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5IFgj28718 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 12216 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2003 18:15:36 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-17.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2003 18:15:36 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3E2F0C for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:36 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-17.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1070648136!293813 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:36 -0500 Message-ID: <001001c3bb5b$c7cee930$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <200312051809.hB5I9xj27945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB5IFgj28719 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:10 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Two things > > >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:25:10 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander > wrote: > >>At 11:11 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >>>btw, lots of crunchy food (like celery, which has no calories) >>>can be helpful in working off some of that irritable energy. >>>I also chewed cinnamon sticks, which felt like a cigarette >>>in my mouth, when I was quitting. >> >>Be careful of the cinnamon. I used those as well for a >while---until the >>nearly unremitting heartburn set in. >> >>cwv > > "spit, don't swallow" > >clo > Brings up a nasty memory, a shirt I used to see at Villanova says : Syracuse Sucks and Georgetown Swallows. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IJ4Bp019277 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:19:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C435@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IHaj29022 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00209478@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051817.hB5IHaj29022@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: class and childhood To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:50 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> I'm still thinking about what Doris said: she was in a small town and >> there were no class differences. >> >> I was in two small towns as a child, one in South Carolina and one in >> Wisconsin. The population of the Wisconsin one was something like 626 >and >> I don't think the SC one was bigger, maybe smaller. >> >> Anyway, Doris, in your town there weren't poor people? Or all were >poor? >> No 'wrong side of the tracks'? >> >> Ann > >Actually, no. My one grandmother lived >on one side of the tracks, my other one >lived on the other side. No difference in >their status. > >Fact is, I don't think we had any really rich >people or any really poor. Maybe most were >low average. I don't know. So maybe >homogenous is the word. Nevertheless it >shaped the attitudes of people who grew up >there. > >The thing is, I don't remember giving things >names. (With the exception of "town drunk", >which stood out because very few people >there drank at all) Rich bitch? Never heard of >that attitude. People there who owned several farms >were like anyone else and in church they sat right by >the hired men (and anyone else). >Blue collar workers? No, here most were blue >overall workers, and that's a different climate. >I didn't know any ladies who had maids or >cleaning ladies. But farm wives often had "hired >girls" to help with the household chores . . . so the >wife could go out into the field and husk corn or >drive the tractor. Hardly a status thing. > > - D. M. I'm happy to hear that words like "rich bitch" weren't part of the atmosphere for you. And no, I don't suppose people did give things names. As you say, people who owned farms sat by hired men; and nobody pointed out "hired girls" as a luxury compared to families where the wife both drove tractor and did what housework she could manage. Likewise, my mother worked in tobacco fields alongside the grandchildren of former slaves, and was raised by the cook because her mother was in a malarial coma when she was born. The family income of all was derived from tobacco and labor, and there were many shared experiences. There were also many experiences that were shared. The fact that one family has a cook and one family has a mother who is the cook a fact, and in looking back, it is possible to discern the difference and understand that there are some differences in experience even though no one remarked on it , particularly to children. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IL1Bp019291 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:21:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IJWj29716 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00209484@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051819.hB5IJWj29716@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:30:31 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> >> Towns don't actually technically have or not have consciousness. >> >People do; >> >> and you can't generalize from your own consciousness to everyone >> >else's. Both >> >> Natalie and Doris can't recall observing or knowing about class >> >distinction >> >> as children. Natalie tentatively puts this down to having grown up >in >> >a >> >> homogeneous neighborhood. >> >> >> >> I look back on childhood and draw conclusions about experiences and >> >> associations that may have been class-related. IMO that's sort of >> >apples >> >> and oranges to what I may have known as a child. >> >> >> >> clo >> > >> >Some people are more inclined to >> >compartmentalize than others. >> > >> > - D. M. >> >> Hmm, an interesting premise. I see patternmaking as the basic unit of >> cognition; I'd expect people to compartmentalize in different areas, >but >> not less overall. eg, is it compartmentalizing to put childhood >memories >> inside the set of items that can be analyzed politically, or is it >> compartmentalizing to wall them off from that category? Is it >> compartmentalizing to separate political and social facts from those >things >> that are worthy objects of attention? >> >> Perhaps more relevant, do see a change in understanding of a >situation >> over time and maturational stages as uninteresting, not worth >> compartmentalizing? That's the reading I get from the juxtaposition of >your >> response to my comment. >> >> clo > >Change is almost assured as one goes >through life, and memories can be dim >or distorted. > > But what I'm talking about is that for some people life experience sort >of flows through them, while others want to catch it, analyze it, break >it down, give it names, and put it into boxes. Two people could have >grown up in the same environment and be different in this respect. > > - D. M. Have we now returned, in some strange twist of fate, to the "unexamined life"? Because clearly in this context, it has become a life that worth living. Interesting. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IMFBp019312 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:22:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C44E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:20:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:20:47 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5IKlj30078 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:20:47 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:20:47 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:20:20 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Two things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB5IMFBp019312 Half a joke. Help me finish it. "xxx sucks and Capistrano swallows" BrP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 12/05/03 01:15PM >>> >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:10 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Two things > > >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:25:10 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander > wrote: > >>At 11:11 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >>>btw, lots of crunchy food (like celery, which has no calories) >>>can be helpful in working off some of that irritable energy. >>>I also chewed cinnamon sticks, which felt like a cigarette >>>in my mouth, when I was quitting. >> >>Be careful of the cinnamon. I used those as well for a >while---until the >>nearly unremitting heartburn set in. >> >>cwv > > "spit, don't swallow" > >clo > Brings up a nasty memory, a shirt I used to see at Villanova says : Syracuse Sucks and Georgetown Swallows. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:23:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5INTBp019331 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:23:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C453@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:22:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:22:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IM1j30297 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:22:01 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002094A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:22:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051822.hB5IM1j30297@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:22:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:35:54 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:18 PM > >> Phil Paxton wrote: >> >>of mutancy. That to me was exremely telling. Exact same words but >> > >> > Curiosity question (from the Words-L type of fun) - >> seriously: what does >> > "exact same" or "same exact" serve which "same" or "the >> same" does not? I >> > have heard it in movies from the 60s and 70s so I know it's >> not horribly >> > old. >> >> Old? I've never thought of it as old or young. I think it's >> something >> I've heard and said all of my life -- as in it was around >> years ago and >> is still around. What it serves that either one of the words >> by itself >> wouldn't is emphasis. > >If someone hands me a rope and sends me down the street to get another piece >the same size, that what they'll get. If someone sends me down to get one >the "exact same" size, I'll be asking them what "exact same" means vs. the >first request. And I hope if they're out when you go back to ask, you'll stretch and compare the two in order to minimize the minor variations that may occur in cutting rope. Exact same size differs from same size with an effect of "measure twice, cut once" compared to "close enough for govt work", eg clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:25:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IPWBp019368 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:25:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:00 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IO0j30618 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C45F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:23:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051824.hB5IO0j30618@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:48:16 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 11:30 AM 12/5/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> But what I'm talking about is that for some people life experience sort >>of flows through them, while others want to catch it, analyze it, break >>it down, give it names, and put it into boxes. Two people could have >>grown up in the same environment and be different in this respect. >> >> - D. M. > >Absolutely. My sister and I had totally different parents. > >Betty Now this is interesting to me. How far apart in age? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IRZBp019412 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:27:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C488@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:26:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IQ7j31059 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020948F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:26:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051826.hB5IQ7j31059@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:26:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:15:36 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: English Language Discussion Group >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:10 PM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Two things >> >> >>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:25:10 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander >> wrote: >> >>>At 11:11 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> >>>>btw, lots of crunchy food (like celery, which has no calories) >>>>can be helpful in working off some of that irritable energy. >>>>I also chewed cinnamon sticks, which felt like a cigarette >>>>in my mouth, when I was quitting. >>> >>>Be careful of the cinnamon. I used those as well for a >>while---until the >>>nearly unremitting heartburn set in. >>> >>>cwv >> >> "spit, don't swallow" >> >>clo >> > >Brings up a nasty memory, a shirt I used to see at Villanova says : >Syracuse Sucks and Georgetown Swallows. > > >alec > Yeah, there was a third one, too: Something Blew. (Duke seems a likely candidate) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:36:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IacBp019541 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:36:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002094E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:35:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:35:10 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IZ9j00513 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:35:09 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB5IZ8kF013952 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:08 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB5IZ7YM013950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:07 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20031205183507.GA13934@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = We have a Masonic Lodge right here in tiny Bar Harbor. Masons loom large = in Dan Brown's _Angels and Demons_, a book many people are now reading, = having enjoyed his very popular _Da Vinci Code_. = = bonnie One of the things I brought back from Chicago when I went to my grandmothers funeral was a box of service pins from various organizations. In there is a very well worn Masonic pendant, which I can only assume belonged to my grandfather. I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish members. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:38:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IcTBp019574 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:38:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C4F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:01 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ib1j00898 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5IaxGn099407 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:37:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting article. I quote the ex-Buddhist nun: "So why would I leave? I felt that there were places where there was a real need, places where perhaps I couldn't help as a nun. I still have as much of a commitment and respect for the teachings, teachers and practices as I always did. I still do the same work, only I do it more universally." Let me make it perfectly clear, not that everyone doesn't already know this, I felt nothing like that kind of commitment when I walked out of the convent. To hell with the vows. To hell with helping the world. That was my thought. > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2003120 > > 4/FACTS04/TPComment/Features > >Interesting but I think this is more for bonniev, really. > >My take is either this girl is lying or she is -really- weird, crying >because she can't choose mascara? JEEZ give me a break. > >Well, I can't navigate more than one big store in a day, either, actually. > >Ann bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:39:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IdGBp019581 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:39:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C4FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:49 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ibmj01049 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:37:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB5IbkkF013966 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:37:46 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB5IbkBW013964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:37:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:37:46 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20031205183746.GB13934@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE9B98.3000108@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091721.00b72108@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091721.00b72108@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = You do too what?? Find it way weird or associate it with the upper = crust? I understand completely what Clo is saying. I must have been = brought up in a similar social strata. I associate tennis, downhill = skiing, and playing bridge with the higher classes. My family played = poker, at home, with other family members on Saturday nights. On weekday = nights, Dads came home from the factory, had some supper, watched a bit of = TV, and fell into bed so that they could do it all again the next day. = = = bonnie Ok, my dad's mom plays poker and my mom's mom plays bridge. I grew up with tennis lessons one summer from the Y, and one winter vacation to Colorado which involved downhill skiing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:40:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IesBp019600 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:40:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C509@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:39:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:39:26 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IdMj01240 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:39:22 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5IdHOb3899422 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:39:17 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:39:17 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [PMX:#] Re: [spam] Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031205034224.20243.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031205034224.20243.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >a reproduction of a Bayeaux tapestry or something ...which, of course, is not a tapestry at all. But making your own copy is a most excellent idea. I may have to take up needleworking. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:43:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IhtBp019647 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:43:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C518@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:42:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:42:27 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IgRj01930 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:42:27 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5IgKOb3702898 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:42:20 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:42:20 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <000a01c3bae9$47fb3e60$dbcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031205034905.8255.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <000a01c3bae9$47fb3e60$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M.: > Well, Richard, you can just eat Crow. Can I just put on my Crow T. Robot "BITE ME!" sweatshirt? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5ImCBp019748 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:48:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C552@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:46:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ikej03032 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:46:44 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:46:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778ED@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:46:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:26 PM > Yeah, there was a third one, too: > Something Blew. (Duke seems a likely candidate) And after a bad call: Nuts & Bolts, Nuts & Bolts, We Got Screwed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:51:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Ip6Bp019806 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:51:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C59A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:49:39 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Incj04214 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:49:38 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5InYA3014169 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:49:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01c3bb60$a0c93020$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Serial Killer or Programming Geek? Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:50:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ > > It's more fun if you turn the speakers on. > I got 10 out of 10. Did everyone else also? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:59:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Ix6Bp019876 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:59:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C5D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:57:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:57:37 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ivbj05949 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:57:37 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5IvZGn003060 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:57:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205135654.00bbfd40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:57:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <1ec7d1a7d6.1a7d61ec7d@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't know. But I figured it out here: http://www.vpcalendar.net/3_Columns/Calendar_1.html >I know I was born on a Wednesday. I also know that my mother was born on a >Friday. FWIW. > >Marie > > > Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which they > > were born? > > BrP bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 12:59:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5IxmBp019882 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:59:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C5D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:58:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:58:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5IwKj06097 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:58:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5IwHA3005082 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:58:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005d01c3bb61$d873dec0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031205034905.8255.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <000a01c3bae9$47fb3e60$dbcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:59:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > D.M.: > > Well, Richard, you can just eat Crow. > > Can I just put on my Crow T. Robot "BITE ME!" sweatshirt? > > -- > Richard Suuuuuuurrrre you can. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 13:02:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5J2UBp019942 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:02:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002095CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:01:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:01:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5J11j06580 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:01:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EE@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:00:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 1:58 PM > I didn't know. But I figured it out > here: http://www.vpcalendar.net/3_Columns/Calendar_1.html > > >I know I was born on a Wednesday. I also know that my mother > was born on a > >Friday. FWIW. > > > >Marie > > > > > Don't most adults already know the day of the week on which they > > > were born? > > > BrP I did provide rather simple arithmetic yesterday for finding out for yourself. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 13:19:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5JJhBp020222 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C6C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:18:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 309414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:18:15 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5JIEj11416 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:18:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C6C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:18:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:18:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:07 +0100, steph wrote: >= >= We have a Masonic Lodge right here in tiny Bar Harbor. Masons loom large >= in Dan Brown's _Angels and Demons_, a book many people are now reading, >= having enjoyed his very popular _Da Vinci Code_. >= >= bonnie > >One of the things I brought back from Chicago when I went to my >grandmothers funeral was a box of service pins from various >organizations. In there is a very well worn Masonic pendant, >which I can only assume belonged to my grandfather. > >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish members. Masons, like many other organizations, have had to work their way through discrimination issues. Knights of Columbus was the Catholic answer to problems with being members of a "secret rite" org that in theory you weren't supposed to talk about even to your priest; but I have always suspected it was also a defensive move, since Catholics weren't welcome in many communities. Likewise, there are still primarily A-A chapters and a parallel group whose name I have forgotten. My dad has been active in breaching divides between such orgs, since both are important issues to him. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 13:27:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5JRNBp020338 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:27:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C710@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:25:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:25:55 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5JPtj12896 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:25:55 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:25:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:25:27 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB5JRNBp020338 Seriously, if anyone is interested, here's the info: http://tinyurl.com/xwtt BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 13:32:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5JW5Bp020431 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:32:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:30:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:30:37 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5JUbj13813 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:30:37 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18a.22ef1708 (4446) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:30:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18a.22ef1708.2d0236d4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:30:28 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/5/2003 10:12:21 AM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << If she sticks it out for the week, will you get her more and urge her to keep going? >> Yes, of course, and I'll get her breadsticks to help with the fidgity feelings. If she doesn't want them, Bennie can always use them as chew sticks. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:01:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5K1LBp020820 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:01:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C84C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:59:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 313197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:59:53 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Jxqj19055 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:59:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.91]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPFTXD03.JA3 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:53:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3FD0E3B1.9F1B259B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:59:45 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Half a joke. Help me finish it. > > "xxx sucks and Capistrano swallows" "Santa Barbara" JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:11:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KBPBp020938 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C8A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:09:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 313201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:09:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Jxuj19061 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:59:56 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5Jwk61018034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:58:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:59:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, bonniev wrote: >Let me make it perfectly clear, not that everyone doesn't already know >this, I felt nothing like that kind of commitment when I walked out of the >convent. To hell with the vows. To hell with helping the world. That was >my thought. Do you still feel that way? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:14:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KEGBp020990 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:14:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C8BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:12:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 314544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:12:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5KCmj22647 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:12:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002098AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:12:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312052012.hB5KCmj22647@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:12:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:59:45 -0700, John Williams wrote: >Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Half a joke. Help me finish it. >> >> "xxx sucks and Capistrano swallows" > > "Santa Barbara" > >JMW or Santa Monica, or St. Cristobal clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:40:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KebBp021331 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:40:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C9A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:39:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 316500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:39:09 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Kd8j26789 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:39:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.144]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205203903.SGIP2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD0ECE8.10105@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:39:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <3FCFF861.1070104@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>It's /maIk/ to me also. So you're saying that somebody who spells >>microphone as microphone says /mIkr{swhwa}fon/? Or are you saying that >>you spell it mikeraphone? > > I do not recall discussing the pronunciation of at all. ??? I thought you had said that mic is to you pronounced [maIk]. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:47:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KlABp021437 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:47:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6C9D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:45:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:45:41 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Kjfj28369 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:45:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.144]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205204535.SJOO2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:45:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD0EE71.5020304@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:45:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Sign References: <200312051321.hB5DLc204332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312051321.hB5DLc204332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Very neat; I hope the weather is lovely and nobody coughs at her. What I haven't checked the forecast, but I very much hope that there's not the nasty wind there tomorrow that there is here today. It's biting. > a terrific present (if she likes that sort of thing)! I'm so glad you > live near enough to attend. Downtown Jackson may be a mess with a parade etc. I'm still pondering plans. Almost certainly I'm going, but I'm trying to decide what to try to do about my car and my whereabouts when I get there. I'll go to the crafts fair first thing upon early-morning arrival. There's ample parking there. It's after that that I'm not sure about. It's within walking distance, though not what I'd call easy walking distance, from there to City Hall, where the xmas-tree lighting will occur. Being a fairly brave sort, I might go on and walk, though the route is not one that would be deemed by the faint of heart (or the prudent). Trying to drive might be a problem, though, with streets no doubt closed for the parade and with no idea where one parks in downtown Jackson these days. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:48:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Km3Bp021447 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:48:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6C9C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5KkRj28569 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:31 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5KkQW1005831 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:46:26 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB5KkPWq005796; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:46:25 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205124022.00b7c1f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:41:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312051824.hB5IO0j30618@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:24 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:48:16 -0800, Betty Clark >wrote: > > >At 11:30 AM 12/5/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > >> But what I'm talking about is that for some people life experience sort > >>of flows through them, while others want to catch it, analyze it, break > >>it down, give it names, and put it into boxes. Two people could have > >>grown up in the same environment and be different in this respect. > >> > >> - D. M. > > > >Absolutely. My sister and I had totally different parents. > > > >Betty > >Now this is interesting to me. How far apart in age? > >clo I don't think it matters. My own children, about 3 years apart, remember things differently. The third way is the way I remember things. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KmOBp021451 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:48:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00209988@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:55 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Kktx28720 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.144]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205204650.SKEL2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:46:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>Natalie is asking why you don't permit knowledge of the full form to >>influence your pronunciation of the clipped spelling - as we do here, > > Oh. It's because of context and history, of course. Consider sic, tic, > etc. ? What are sic and tic clippings of? Sicafix? Ticafonic? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KnbBp021470 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6C9EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:48:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:48:08 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Km7x29016 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:48:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.144]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205204802.SKUE2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:48:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD0EF03.8000401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:48:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <1533204966.20031204204048@WordWrite.com> <231907503.20031205083538@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <231907503.20031205083538@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>>Bingo. The draft entry for the new edition gives the first citation as >>>1961. The citation itself says "Abbr. mike or mic". > >>How many citations are there for the American South? East Tennessee? > > Surely even East Tennessee is not more than 30 years behind the rest > of the country? I was not aware that there were regional variations in spelling. Are there? (I mean regional within a country. I realize that different countries have different spellings.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Kq8Bp021508 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:52:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6CA0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:50:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 317617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:50:39 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Koax29479 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:50:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.144]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205205031.SLZK2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:50:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD0EF89.7000107@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:50:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: One more pizza thing References: <5e0fe594da.594da5e0fe@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <5e0fe594da.594da5e0fe@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I don't think they have personal sized pizzas. The smallest might be a 14-inch pie. I don't think you can eat that alone. Even I couldn't eat that alone, and I can put away quantity. I can't remember pizza sizes. I've eaten what are called "small pizzas" by myself before. I'm not talking about "personal pizzas" -- just small as in small, medium, and large. But, as I said, I wouldn't be able to do that with a thick crust and lots of toppings. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:55:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KtgBp021573 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:55:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6CA38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:13 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5KsCx30260 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.170.144]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031205205407.SNSG2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD0F06E.9020401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:54:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Sign References: <20031205152215.78869.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031205152215.78869.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Yes, you must go, and I think you will be so glad of > the experience. Spencer always understands, anyway. Yes, Spencer is a very understanding dog, though he's having trouble right now understanding why I don't want to take him walking in this horrendous wind. Now, however, I must call the Chester Hotel (actually the Landmark Cafe) again to find out whether the gift-certificate person is back and go get the gift-certificates for the banquet people. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Ku5Bp021576 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6CA40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ksax30355 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.fb.4b88d86b (4246) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:25 EST Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/4/2003 3:14:16 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >You must be Dutch. They'll eat peanut butter on bread with a >knife and fork! > Hey, you knock that off! Just because you Americans don't know about manners, doesn't mean you can make fun of everyone else who does.... After I read his comments last night I was telling a friend about it, and he was very amazed that I was taught the same thing. I've since my arrival here learned to eat with my hands, but really...... :-( Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:57:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Kv6Bp021585 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:57:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CA49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:55:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:55:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Ktbx30791 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:55:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5KtW6X018376 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:55:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:55:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1438420525.20031205145532@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Two things In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E8@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:04 PM >> On Thursday, December 04, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> > There are now places which can outperform McDonald's. One >> of them is >> > Culver's. Research in some business reports has shown when >> Culver's and >> > Chez Ronald are in close proximity, Culver's wins nearly every time. >> >> I find this shocking; the Culver's here sucks rocks. > If one hopes to get inside & order at the Fort Benjamin Harrison (IIRC, is > the facility screwing up the military paychecks these days) it would be wise > not to do so when there are certain cycles of activity: church(es) let out, > end of "soccer afternoon" (Saturday and Sunday), supper (after school), etc. I'm sure the one here is probably crowded, too. That doesn't have much to do with the quality of the food, IME. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 14:58:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5KwwBp021629 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:58:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00209A25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:57:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:57:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5KvSx31272 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:57:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5KuhKX024866 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:56:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:57:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10210439517.20031205145727@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Serial Killer or Programming Geek? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ > It's more fun if you turn the speakers on. You're late in the cycle. We did this already--last week, I think. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:01:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5L1BBp021663 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:01:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00209A09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:42 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Kxfx31707 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:41 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001C8A; 5 Dec 03 16:10:20 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 5 Dec 03 16:10:17 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001C88; 5 Dec 03 16:10:16 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:55:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin Message-ID: <3FD0AA8C.20202.3394F664@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 4 Dec 2003 at 10:41, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > > > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2003120 > > 4/FACTS04/TPComment/Features > > Interesting but I think this is more for bonniev, really. I really thought it more appropriate for you. I am less interested in the "former nun" part than the strange attempt to justify herself in her moving back to the "real world". > My take is either this girl is lying or she is -really- weird, crying > because she can't choose mascara? JEEZ give me a break. Yup. (Of course that bit sounds like something from one of those Ayn Rand shorts. Maybe it *is* a bonniev thing after all.) And somehow wanting to have it all. Oh well - easy for me to criticize... > Well, I can't navigate more than one big store in a day, either, actually. :-) Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:01:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5L1IBp021668 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:01:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CA53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:42 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Kxfx31706 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:59:41 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001C89; 5 Dec 03 16:10:20 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 5 Dec 03 16:10:17 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001C87; 5 Dec 03 16:10:15 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:55:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: A few more Brazilian things Message-ID: <3FD0AA8C.12107.3394F5B9@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 1) It's not a free-trade place, at all. Everything is made there. When was the last time you saw a TV set or coffee maker or telephone made in the US or Canada? ALl those things are just about universally made in China now. But in Brazil they're all Made in Brazil. It's weird. Some of the stuff is a generation or two old, but much is quite up to date. Electronics (cellphones, cameras, etc.) are expensive - maybe 1.5 to 2 times the price in Canada. But lots of stuff seems cheap. 2) Coffee is good, but it is near impossible to get it milky. You can have it "with milk", but it just does not normally come in anything except tiny cups. If you insist obnoxiously, you may get a slightly larger cup with a little milky froth on top. There's no Starbucks (yay?), so I couldn't check to see if the Seattle norms had penetrated everywhere. One "Italian" place had "latte" (which the server pronounced in the Portuguese way as roughly "latch-ay"), but even it was big on coffee and short on milk. 3) *That* look - AKA "if you've got it, flaunt it". There certainly is a cultural thing that allows/suggests/forces(?) women to show it off. At the bank where we were, the men were wearing conservative suits, and half the women were dressed such that they would have been told to go home and change from a 2003 Toronto office in the summer (and Toronto isn't the tightass place it was 30 years ago). Specifically, there is a how-shall-I-say, uplifted look that's very popular in a not entirely artificial looking way. The obvious question is where all the women who don't have it are. They seem to be invisible or nonexistent. At the same time there isn't an obvious sexist attitude among the men - certainly no leering, touching, comments and such. Maybe this is just wishful thinking, and the sexual attitudes are much deeper, i.e. women don't need visible harassment to be oppressed. Overall it was just slightly creepy. I would have been very interested to have a female colleague along to get her reaction, and theirs to her. Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5L4oBp021716 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CA8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:03:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:03:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5KrLx30097 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:53:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5KqC61005870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:52:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:53:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD0ECE8.10105@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031204075800.00b57328@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCFBDD6.50907@maynor.net> <3FCFEBDC.9030902@maynor.net> <3FCFF861.1070104@maynor.net> <3FD0ECE8.10105@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>It's /maIk/ to me also. So you're saying that somebody who spells >>>microphone as microphone says /mIkr{swhwa}fon/? Or are you saying that >>>you spell it mikeraphone? >> >> I do not recall discussing the pronunciation of at all. ??? > >I thought you had said that mic is to you pronounced [maIk]. Right. I did not discuss the pronunciation of .> Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:05:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5L5qBp021728 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:05:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CAB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:04:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 318111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:04:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5KsNx30268 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:23 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5KrC61006310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:53:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:54:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >? What are sic and tic clippings of? Sicafix? Ticafonic? Hah! I did not know they are clippings. Cite, please. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:19:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LJrBp021914 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:19:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CB32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:18:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:18:23 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5LILx03850 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:18:21 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:18:16 PST Message-ID: <20031205211816.61642.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:18:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: [PMX:#] Re: [spam] Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > >a reproduction of a Bayeaux tapestry or something > > ...which, of course, is not a tapestry at all. > > > But making your own copy is a most excellent idea. > > I may have to take up needleworking. > > -- > Richard Do. It soothes the spirit, for some. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:20:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LKmBp021925 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:20:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CB42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:19:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 320737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:19:19 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5LJGx04024 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:19:16 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:19:11 PST Message-ID: <20031205211911.8924.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:19:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > D.M.: > > Well, Richard, you can just eat Crow. > > Can I just put on my Crow T. Robot "BITE ME!" > sweatshirt? > > -- > Richard Only while designing needlework projects. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LM0Bp021939 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:22:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00209AEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:20:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 321003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:20:29 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5LKSx04479 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:20:29 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:20:22 PST Message-ID: <20031205212022.46301.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Serial Killer or Programming Geek? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001e01c3bb60$a0c93020$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ > > > > It's more fun if you turn the speakers on. > > > I got 10 out of 10. Did everyone else also? > > - D. M. No. 8 out of 10. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:22:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LMrBp021954 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:22:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CB58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:21:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 321106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:21:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5LLNx04730 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:21:23 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:21:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F1@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: One more pizza thing Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:21:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:50 PM > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > I don't think they have personal sized pizzas. The smallest > might be a 14-inch pie. I don't think you can eat that alone. > Even I couldn't eat that alone, and I can put away quantity. > > I can't remember pizza sizes. I've eaten what are called > "small pizzas" > by myself before. I'm not talking about "personal pizzas" -- > just small > as in small, medium, and large. But, as I said, I wouldn't be able to > do that with a thick crust and lots of toppings. Let us not forget Yogi Berra: "Would you like that pizza cut into six or eight pieces?" "You better make it six. I don't think I could eat eight." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:26:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LQCBq021974 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:26:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CB7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 321275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB5LOhx05233 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:24:38 PST Message-ID: <20031205212438.63722.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205135654.00bbfd40@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > > > > > Don't most adults already know the day of the > week on which they > > > were born? > > > BrP > > bonnie What am I missing? Does some importance attach to this information? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:26:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LQCBp021974 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:26:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CB6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 321271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5LOgx05231 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB5LOfkF014257 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:24:41 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB5LOfsp014255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:24:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:24:40 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20031205212440.GA14220@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish members. = = Masons, like many other organizations, have had to work their way through = discrimination issues. Knights of Columbus was the Catholic answer to = = clo The only thing is he's been dead ten years, and this pendant is so worn he must have worn it every day for tens of years. So the sixties, the seventies? And does this explain why we got taken to the Medinah Temple to see the circus more often than the Ringling Bros and Barnum & Baily? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 15:49:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5LniBp022302 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:49:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CBEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 322632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5LmFx08882 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:48:15 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO001C9F; 5 Dec 03 16:58:54 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 5 Dec 03 16:58:52 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG001C9E; 5 Dec 03 16:58:46 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:44:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: One more pizza thing Message-ID: <3FD0B5EA.27855.33C15D66@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F1@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 5 Dec 2003 at 16:21, Phil Paxton wrote: > Let us not forget Yogi Berra: > > "Would you like that pizza cut into six or eight pieces?" > > "You better make it six. I don't think I could eat eight." "Would ya look at the size of those things! Sure wouldn't take many of them to make a dozen." Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:04:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5M4fBp022533 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:04:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CCD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:03:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 324453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:03:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5M3Bx12282 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:03:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:03:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:03:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:26 PM > I hate to see parents manipulate their kids through food. > "Sit there until you eat everything on your plate" is so often > ordered by a parent who loaded the plate for the child, > using his own appetite and his own taste as a guideline. > As a Great Grandma this is the hardest thing for me to > watch and to keep my mouth shut. My rule was that a > child was encouraged to take some of everything but was > allowed to eat more of things he liked best, less of things > he liked least, and then to quit when he was full. Making > a fuss about food creates a person who will make a fuss > about his food and make kids who fuss about their food, > in one way or another. To eat and to enjoy one's food > should not be that big a deal. For most of us there's > plenty to go around, and in places where there isn't they > would be glad to have food, much less all our choices. When we are dining with our nieces at my mom's (they are less finicky than I am), they will occasionally balk and that's when Holly will grab my plate and match my plate's contents with what they don't want. She assures them it's something I detest even more than they do - something Grandma (my mom) can back up as well from my upbringing. Then it's pretty fun for them to realize that although they don't like it, they're watching me have to eat it along with them (and not enjoying it *at all*) - and knowing I'm not cheating (get a mouthful, wash it down, repeat). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:09:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5M9ABp022658 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CD14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:41 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5M7fx13715 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:41 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F3@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Ben Ostrowsky [mailto:sylvar@VAXER.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:39 PM > > How totally appropriate of you. PKs know how to fit in > right from the start! > > This confused me for a few seconds. To me, PKs are player-killers -- > players in online fantasy games who attack their fellow > players instead of > killing dragons and such. > > "Preachers' kids", I assume. Most of my high school friends were PKs and MKs. (The World HQ for the denomination was in the adjacent town). There were a lot of both in college - but my soccer teammates were 2/3 international (i.e. the % of the people on the team who were not from North America) and practically all MKs or those sent by missionaries. (It helped to have a lot of international experience on the team to offset those of us who had much, much less exposure. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:10:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5MAEBp022663 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:10:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CD34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:08:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:08:45 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5M8ix13966 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:08:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5M8dA3009532 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:08:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:09:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil: can back up as well from my upbringing. Then it's pretty fun for them to > realize that although they don't like it, they're watching me have to eat it > along with them (and not enjoying it *at all*) - and knowing I'm not > cheating (get a mouthful, wash it down, repeat). > I'm just plain curious. Name some things that taste so bad to you. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5MLWBp022805 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:21:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00209D01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:20:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:20:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5MK2x16581 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:20:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:19:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Need Xmas Help Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:19:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:09 PM > > Once again I call on my computer savvy WL friends for help. > > > > Never mind. Figured it out. That is, > > I downloaded it and am able to put it > > in an email as an attachment, but did not > > find a way to have it open and play > > as the message is opened. > > > Okay, I figured that out too. Can do all > of the above with MS Home Publisher, > but it won't let me write a very long email. I don't remember how this resolved itself, but you have to remember what Microsoft's underlying business model works: cripple products in various stages to force people to spend more. When they purchased HotMail, it ran on *nix and did so for quite a long time thereafter. There weren't many restrictions at first. Then they started clamping down for people who had free access but offering a paid service for those needing more room, and MSN[1] was available for those who needed the heavy duty services. It's the same way with Outlook Express - which, BTW, will no longer have any code added to it - it's a static product; and this has been announced in print *by* Microsoft, so it's not UL|FOAF. So folks who are dependent upon OE will eventually find themselves locked out. [1] MSN was predictable, just as Windows was. In the case of MSN, Microsoft sent a band of consultants to Compu$erve to help them deal with their growing pains (this would have been before 1990). I told my co-workers, "It would appear Microsoft is preparing to create an online service to compete against Compu$erve and AOL." That caused a lot of derision...until.... The way I knew was because Microsoft would always help someone with their needs and learn the technology & Way of Life at the same time, then come home and apply what they'd learned - usually for something new. They did the same thing with IBM and OS/2. After that contract ended, it caught IBM by surprise. They (IBM) thought Microsoft would renew the contract and things would continue as-is. Little did IBM know [that] Mr. Gates was about to stick it to them for the second time. (the first time was when they licensed DOS to IBM instead of selling it, even tough they didn't own DOS yet - they had a bid of $50k to the guy and were waiting to hear back while they were meeting with IBM) The second time, Microsoft was well on their way to launching Windows but it was nowhere near what OS/2 had on the table. Although there were attempts to maintain some compatibility between Windows & OS/2 programs, IBM more or less fell by the wayside after that. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:23:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5MNRBp022860 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:23:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CDB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:57 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5MLvx17015 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:57 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F5@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:46 PM > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 Phil wrote: > > >= way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by > picking them > up. > >= I use utensils for those as well. > > But which hand, my friend, ?!!! It doesn't matter. This has come up before. I'm a primary ambidextrous. Sometimes it depends upon which side of the plate the fork is on, other times it depends upon which side I'm catching an elbow from. I'm able to accommodate. But when I use fork & knife, I do eat European style. My mother does not remember me eating any other way. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:34:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5MYHBp023076 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:34:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6CE0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5MWlx18834 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB5MWkGn037480 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205173130.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:32:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FCFCA88.1070901@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031204182248.0254d2f0@pop.gwi.net> <3FCE6FD9.5010706@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.1.1.5.2.20031202105226.00b66d58@uclink.berkeley.edu> <000401c3b90c$69a87660$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FCD3329.5030207@maynor.net> <008601c3b9b7$2cc704e0$dbcadece@0018079268> <5.2.1.1.0.20031204182248.0254d2f0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Thank you for releasing the niggle from my brain! Did you read my >dissertation title in the program that day? Or I guess they put such >things in the program. They do here. They mailed me my diploma in a >cute orange-and-white mailing tube, but I don't think they mailed me a >program. -- Natalie Hmmm. I got my diploma in an orange and white mailing tube also. I wonder where it is. I have no memory of seeing it since we moved to Maine. I think our marriage certificate is in that tube also. I should go look around. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:51:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Mp6Bp023404 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:51:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00209E0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:49:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:49:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5Mnbx24836 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:49:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00209E3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:49:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312052249.hB5Mnbx24836@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:49:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:50 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:46 PM > >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 Phil wrote: >> >> >= way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by >> picking them >> up. >> >= I use utensils for those as well. >> >> But which hand, my friend, ?!!! > >It doesn't matter. This has come up before. I'm a primary ambidextrous. >Sometimes it depends upon which side of the plate the fork is on, other >times it depends upon which side I'm catching an elbow from. I'm able to >accommodate. But when I use fork & knife, I do eat European style. My mother >does not remember me eating any other way. It may not matter to you; but there are some who would be interested to know which hand it is you . clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:53:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5Mr2Bp023448 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:53:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6CF32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:51:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 330611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:51:32 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5MpWx25195 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:51:32 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5MpROb7700552 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:51:27 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:51:27 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031205212440.GA14220@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031205212440.GA14220@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > And does this explain why we got taken > to the Medinah Temple to see the circus more often than the > Ringling Bros and Barnum & Baily? Yow! Y'mean there was a circus *other* than the Shriners at Medinah Temple? Coincidentally, that is also where my high school graduation was held. -- Richard, grandson of a Mason From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 16:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5MutBp023502 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:56:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CF6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:55:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 331007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:55:25 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5MtPx26296 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:55:25 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5MtKOb1999066 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:55:20 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:55:20 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU dash space D period space M period colon: > I'm just plain curious. Name some things > that taste so bad to you. You asked Phil, and I'm not Phil, but I'll take this opportunity. I am physically unable to eat asparagus. It triggers my gag reflex, for some reason. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 17:09:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5N97Bp023717 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:09:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6CFE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:07:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:07:30 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5N7Ux28622 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:07:30 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5N7OOb8364144 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:07:24 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...and since I seem to be on a Phil jag here: Phil, you asked about foisting green ketchup (or was it catsup?) on kids. I have no spawn, but I do have a bottle of green ketchup (the Heinz spelling) that I bought when Karen was saving Austin by wearing green socks. Anyway, the dye they use to make it green (as opposed to the dye they use to make their regular ketchup red) is really powerful. As in, it takes more than once to wash it off. So kids'd prolly like it because it can turn them green. Interestingly (to me, at least) is that the green ketchup has: "20% DV more vitamin C than our regular ketchup which has 0% DV vitamin C" (DV is "Daily Values") My question: How do you over-process tomatoes so much that they have NO vitamin C left? jeebus. Love apples, in their native state, have more vitamin C than even oranges, don't they? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 17:19:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5NJlBp023900 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:19:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D03B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:18:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5NIHx30911 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:18:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5NGo6X028468 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:18:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:16:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <732447486.20031205171648@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > I have no spawn, but I do have a bottle > of green ketchup (the Heinz spelling) > that I bought when Karen was saving > Austin by wearing green socks. ? > My question: How do you over-process > tomatoes so much that they have NO > vitamin C left? Overcook them in an iron pan? > Love apples, in their native state, have > more vitamin C than even oranges, don't > they? Don't know. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 17:22:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5NMQBp023967 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:22:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D058@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:20:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5NKux31426 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:20:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB5NJZrm019494 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:20:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:19:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1361518531.20031205171934@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A few more Brazilian things In-Reply-To: <3FD0AA8C.12107.3394F5B9@localhost> References: <3FD0AA8C.12107.3394F5B9@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > The obvious question is where all the women who don't have it are. Brazil is one of those places where they may not have all been to Europe, but they have definitely all had plastic surgery. > Overall it was just slightly creepy. I would have been very > interested to have a female colleague along to get her reaction, and > theirs to her. Indeed. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 17:25:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5NPpBp024050 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:25:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00209F0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:24:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5NOLx31866 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:24:21 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB5NOG0p006583 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:24:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004f01c3bb87$00296dc0$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: Two things Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:24:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "mene tekel parsin" To: > I am physically unable to eat asparagus. It > triggers my gag reflex, for some reason. > > -- > Richard No matter how it's prepared? I know people who will only eat it if it is cooked til it's soft and gray. Others like it just barely cooked, still green and crisp, and put into a sesame seed marinade or something like that. Asparagus is the only vegetable my daughter won't eat, although she is a strict vegetarian. Asparagus is the only vegetable her husband will eat, although he's the one who likes it cooked to death. - D. M. he's the one who likes it From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 17:28:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB5NSQBp024075 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:28:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D073@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:26:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:26:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB5NQux32312 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:26:56 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a0.aa0538 (4320) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:26:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:26:43 EST Subject: DVD Player To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Started setting it up tonight, and discovered that I'm going to have to go to Radio Shack and get an RF modulator and a powerstrip. So, I'll have to do that after work tomorrow. Oh, well; Big O will have to wait. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:12:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60CiBp024751 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:12:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D139@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:11:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:11:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60BEx05040 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:11:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60BCAr064965 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:11:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191047.02763468@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:11:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031205183507.GA13934@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <200312040205.hB4252g27357@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FCE11FF.20895.1A73B8D@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205091331.00b2d8a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish members. I would have thought not. Catholics were not allowed to join. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:14:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60EfBp024772 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:14:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00209FCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:13:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:13:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60DBx05304 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:13:11 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60D9Ar065117 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:13:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191229.02765aa0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:13:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EE@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I did provide rather simple arithmetic yesterday for finding out for >yourself. Yes, thank you. I did it in my head because I was too lazy to find pen and paper. I came up with Thursday and thought that had to be wrong. So I googled and also came up with Thursday. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:15:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60FoBp024820 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:15:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D145@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:14:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:14:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60EKx05436 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:14:20 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60EIAr065163 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:14:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191401.02768878@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:14:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > bonniev wrote: > >Let me make it perfectly clear, not that everyone doesn't already know > >this, I felt nothing like that kind of commitment when I walked out of the > >convent. To hell with the vows. To hell with helping the world. That was > >my thought. > >Do you still feel that way? >Bethany Yes. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:17:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60H5Bp024831 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:17:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D147@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:15:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:15:35 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60FYx05630 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:15:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60FXGn048421 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:15:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191451.0276ebd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:15:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <200312052012.hB5KCmj22647@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >or Santa Monica, or St. Cristobal >clo What is St. Cristobal other than a mythical tropical island on The Guiding Light which has both earthquakes and avalanches? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:19:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60JbBp024891 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:19:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020A03A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:18:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:18:07 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60I6x05853 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:18:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60I5Ar065552 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:18:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191730.0276d798@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:18:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Serial Killer or Programming Geek? In-Reply-To: <10210439517.20031205145727@WordWrite.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Phil Paxton wrote: > > http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ > > > It's more fun if you turn the speakers on. > >You're late in the cycle. We did this already--last week, I think. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Yes, but I wasn't told I should put my speakers on. I got eight right out of ten. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60KkBp024933 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:20:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D155@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60JGx05994 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB60HHKX022630 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:18:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:17:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <887850952.20031205181758@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Interesting article. I quote the ex-Buddhist nun: > "So why would I leave? I felt that there were places where there was a real > need, places where perhaps I couldn't help as a nun. I still have as much > of a commitment and respect for the teachings, teachers and practices as I > always did. I still do the same work, only I do it more universally." > Let me make it perfectly clear, not that everyone doesn't already know > this, I felt nothing like that kind of commitment when I walked out of the > convent. To hell with the vows. To hell with helping the world. That was > my thought. My friend who left her cloistered order feels far more like the ex-nun from the article. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:22:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60M0Bp024941 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:22:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:20:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:20:30 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60KTx06108 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:20:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60KOGt048997; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:20:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191618.00b62ee0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:19:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <004f01c3bb87$00296dc0$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:24 PM 12/5/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >No matter how it's prepared? I know people >who will only eat it if it is cooked til it's soft >and gray. Others like it just barely cooked, >still green and crisp, and put into a sesame >seed marinade or something like that. It's one of my favorites. Tonight we had it to accompany pan-grilled pork chops and oven-fried potatoes (with onion, garlic, and fennel). I did the asparagus in the microwave, al dente with a little olive oil and some crumbled Stilton cheese. Nice. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:23:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60NwBp024961 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:23:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020A0B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:22:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:22:28 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60MSx06278 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:22:28 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a9.4cb19e91 (4116) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:22:19 EST Subject: Battlestar Galactica To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone here have the Sci-Fi Channel and is planning on watching the new BG? I'd gladly swap MTV and the shopping channels for the Sci-Fi Channel. I am glad we're getting Bravo on analog cable. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:29:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60T5Bp025062 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:29:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D166@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:27:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:27:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60RYx06841 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:27:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB60RHrm013350 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:27:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:27:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <853695266.20031205182713@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Serial Killer or Programming Geek? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191730.0276d798@pop.gwi.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778EA@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191730.0276d798@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>Phil Paxton wrote: >> > http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ >> >> > It's more fun if you turn the speakers on. >> >>You're late in the cycle. We did this already--last week, I think. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > Yes, but I wasn't told I should put my speakers on. That's because I don't have my speakers on. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60VTBp025144 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:31:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D179@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:29:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:29:58 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60Twx07099 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:29:58 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB60TuGn049889 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:29:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205192806.027686e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:28:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: <887850952.20031205181758@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Let me make it perfectly clear, not that everyone doesn't already know > > this, I felt nothing like that kind of commitment when I walked out of the > > convent. To hell with the vows. To hell with helping the world. That was > > my thought. --bonniev > >My friend who left her cloistered order feels far more like the ex-nun >from the article. --Karen, practicing fierce optimism She probably entered the order at an older age and with purer motives than I did. I entered at age 14 to seek a life different from what was on offer in my family and my town. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60bEBp025197 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:37:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D18F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:43 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60Zhx07571 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:35:43 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB60ZcOb5439546 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:35:38 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:35:38 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <732447486.20031205171648@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <732447486.20031205171648@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > > that I bought when Karen was saving > > Austin by wearing green socks. > ? That was the week when your .sig line was "Doing my part to keep Austin weird". When asked what, specifically, you were doing to keep Austin weird, you said you were wearing green socks. Or maybe striped. Yeah, I think it was striped. Sorry. Anyway, so I bought green ketchup. -- Richard, like SO outside, man, whoa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:41:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60ffBp025258 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:41:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D19B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:40:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60eBx07959 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:40:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB60ctKX007848 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:39:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:39:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <351445101.20031205183936@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: For Ann Borkin In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205192806.027686e0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205132900.00bbfe90@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205192806.027686e0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > Let me make it perfectly clear, not that everyone doesn't already know >> > this, I felt nothing like that kind of commitment when I walked out of the >> > convent. To hell with the vows. To hell with helping the world. That was >> > my thought. --bonniev >> >>My friend who left her cloistered order feels far more like the ex-nun >>from the article. --Karen, practicing fierce optimism > She probably entered the order at an older age and with purer motives than > I did. Yep. Her motives remained pure, even though she left. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 18:48:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB60m0Bp025361 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:48:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D1AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:46:30 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60kTx08644 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:46:29 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB60kOOb7471266 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:46:24 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:46:24 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <004f01c3bb87$00296dc0$dbcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> <004f01c3bb87$00296dc0$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU - D.M., on asparagus and my gag reflex: > No matter how it's prepared? Yep. A galpal once went to all sorts of trouble to make me a really nice dinner, getting all the kinds of things I have a major jones on for, and, well, she knew I felt very strongly about asparagus, and she remembered wrong. I tried to nibble some of the tender ends while it was still raw, but even then, with all those circumstances yelling RICHARD YOU MUST EAT SOME ASPARAGUS, it was no go. > I know people who will only eat it if it >is cooked til it's soft and gray. That's how my mother cooked all vegetables (the woman's one fault is she's a bad cook), so I assumed I'd outgrow the asparagus thing like I outgrew broccoli and cabbage and all that, once I ate them properly cooked. Nope. Me and asparagus just doesn't work. I can't think of anything else, offhand, that's like asparagus. -- Richard, gagging From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 19:01:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6111Bp025517 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:01:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D1B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:59:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:59:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB60xTx09695 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:59:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB60wOrm005688 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:59:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:58:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <744266928.20031205185819@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <732447486.20031205171648@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > That was the week when your .sig line was > "Doing my part to keep Austin weird". Ah. Well, I do this every day, of course. > When asked what, specifically, you were > doing to keep Austin weird, you said you > were wearing green socks. Or maybe striped. > Yeah, I think it was striped. > Sorry. > Anyway, so I bought green ketchup. Okay. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 19:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB611mBp025540 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D1D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:00:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:00:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB610Hx09818 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:00:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB60xj6X021746 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:00:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:59:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1969931681.20031205185941@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205112813.00b6d090@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205112813.00b6d090@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many >>other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level >>as well. --clo > Thanks for the info. There are still Grange Halls in this area of > Maine. I never knew exactly what they were beyond social and rural. Nor I, though I don't know that there are any around here. There was one in Kirksville. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 19:13:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB61DWBp025669 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:13:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D1ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:12:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:11:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f34.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB61Bux10827 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:11:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:11:50 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.83 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 01:11:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.83] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 01:11:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2003 01:11:50.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED8FA080:01C3BB95] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonnie, Marie: >>It looks like > > this weekend's Nor'easter will go south of us also. >They are calling for 3-6" here starting tomorrow. We got about 6-7" before lunch. I had no idea a nor'easter was headed our way. I must've missed the pre-storm hype - it took me by surprise this morning. The morning commute was horrible. Luckily part two of the storm's scheduled for tomorrow. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 19:19:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB61JhBp025767 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:19:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D1E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB61ICx11232 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB61Hc6X004192 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:18:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:17:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1256992042.20031205191736@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205113404.00bcd1f0@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312041547.hB4Fldp09237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205113404.00bcd1f0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income >> > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? >> >>This is one of the problems I have been wrestling with. I do not think >>like a poor person, even though I am. --Karen, practicing >>fierce optimism > That's an interesting problem indeed. Not at all interesting to me, just a problem.:( > It's easier to be raised poor and find yourself better off as an > adult than it is to be raised wealthy and find yourself poor as an > adult. I don't think it much matters, frankly. I grew up relatively poor (8 kids), and was poor in grad school, and about half the time I was an academic. But I never expected to be so poor at this time of my life, and to have my prospects so grim. No part of my growing up prepared me for this. > I have an ex-friend who went from the wealthier classes to the > working poor. She had no idea how to live as a poor person. For > example, she would spend money on getting her apartment carpets > professionally cleaned two or more times a year. I don't think she > even knew about the machines you can rent at the grocery store in > order to do it yourself. And she very definitely preferred to not > eat at all than eat simply. LOL. I guess I'm doing well, then. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 19:23:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB61NLBp025824 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:23:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D1FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:21:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:21:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f19.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB61Lox11404 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:21:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:45 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.83 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 01:21:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.83] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Knitting Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 01:21:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2003 01:21:45.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[50228040:01C3BB97] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:37:36 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > Am I the class I was raised in, or the class my income >> > assigns to me, or the class associated with my educational status? >> >>This is one of the problems I have been wrestling with. I do not think >>like a poor person, even though I am. --Karen, practicing >>fierce optimism > >That's an interesting problem indeed. It's easier to be raised poor and >find yourself better off as an adult than it is to be raised wealthy and >find yourself poor as an adult. Hey, bonnie, have you seen -Limbo: Blue-Collar Roots, White-Collar Dreams-. The author's on the staff of the Fluffya Inquirer and it got lots of press here. I haven't seen or read the book but the blurbs reminded me of bonnie's posts of growing up in Wisconsin etc. ( Hope I'm not misrepresenting Bonnie here.) _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:17:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62HpBp026583 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:17:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D264@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:16:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:16:20 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB62GKx15739 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:16:20 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:16:14 PST Message-ID: <20031206021614.25544.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:16:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <732447486.20031205171648@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Overcook them in an iron pan? > > > Love apples, in their native state, have > > more vitamin C than even oranges, don't > > they? > > Don't know. > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism But how did Richard find out about the staining properties of green ketchup? I mean, if he bought it merely to assist Ms. K in saving Austin (which, apparently, she did), to what further use did he put it to become verdantly stained? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:21:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62LJBp026651 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:21:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D27C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:19:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:19:48 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB62Jlx15992 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:19:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:19:42 PST Message-ID: <20031206021942.26327.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:19:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191047.02763468@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish > members. > > I would have thought not. Catholics were not > allowed to join. > > > bonnie But in the sucky South, black applicants are assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their way through the degrees. How long this had been true, I do not know. But it is certainly true now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62OQBp026684 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:24:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D27F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:22:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:22:55 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB62Mtx16203 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:22:55 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:22:49 PST Message-ID: <20031206022249.33689.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:22:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Anyone here have the Sci-Fi Channel and is planning > on > watching the new BG? New BG?? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62OVBp026687 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:24:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:23:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:23:00 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62N0x16230 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:23:00 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB62MxAr081879 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:22:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:23:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hey, bonnie, have you seen -Limbo: Blue-Collar Roots, White-Collar Dreams-. >The author's on the staff of the Fluffya Inquirer and it got lots of press >here. >I haven't seen or read the book but the blurbs reminded me of bonnie's >posts of growing up in Wisconsin etc. ( Hope I'm not misrepresenting >Bonnie here.) Sounds very interesting. I'll have to look for it. I definitely have blue collar roots. My parents weren't as poor as Clo's. In fact, we weren't really poor at all. We owned a house, had enough to eat, went on a yearly driving vacation on the weeks that the Kohler Plumbing Company closed down so that its workers could have time off, etc. But the attitudes and aspirations around me never included things like college or improving one's mind through reading. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:25:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62PpBp026718 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:25:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D282@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:24:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:24:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62OJx16308 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:24:19 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB62OGAt082068; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:24:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205212218.00b5c3c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:24:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: UMASS, Amherst In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:11 AM 12/6/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >bonnie, Marie: > >>>It looks like >> > this weekend's Nor'easter will go south of us also. > >>They are calling for 3-6" here starting tomorrow. > >We got about 6-7" before lunch. I had no idea a nor'easter was >headed our way. The situation here is is still a bit confused, but now they are saying that we definitely will get snow starting sometime tomorrow---perhaps 12-18 inches by the end of Sunday. Ho, ho, ho. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:26:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62QZBp026723 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:26:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D271@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62P4x16378 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-108.gwi.net [216.195.151.108]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB62P3Ar082187 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205212408.02760ce0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:25:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031206021942.26327.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205191047.02763468@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I would have thought not. Catholics were not > > allowed to join. > > bonnie > >But in the sucky South, black applicants are >assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their >way through the degrees. How long this had been true, >I do not know. But it is certainly true now. My statement above might be misleading. I don't know if the freemasons didn't allow Catholics to join or not. I do know that the Catholic Church didn't allow its members to join the freemasons. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:27:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62RRBp026728 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:27:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D285@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:56 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62Pux16443 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB62Ptm6001387 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:25:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD13DCC.5060506@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:24:12 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778D4@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Anyway, the dye they use to make it > green (as opposed to the dye they use > to make their regular ketchup red) is > really powerful. As in, it takes more > than once to wash it off. > > So kids'd prolly like it because it can > turn them green. We have a jug of Hulk Hersey's Syrup. It makes the most horrific shade of green milk. Ana loves it. > Love apples, in their native state, have > more vitamin C than even oranges, don't > they? Do they? I know apple juice has no vitamin C. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:30:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62ULBp026827 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:30:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D29A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:28:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:28:50 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB62Snx16743 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:28:49 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:28:44 PST Message-ID: <20031206022844.35185.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:28:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > - D.M., on asparagus and my gag reflex: > > No matter how it's prepared? > Nope. > > Me and asparagus just doesn't work. > > I can't think of anything else, offhand, > that's like asparagus. > > -- > Richard, gagging It's very bad for people that have gout. Just tell your hosts/hostesses you're gouty. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62atBp026951 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:36:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D2AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:35:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:35:23 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB62ZNx17308 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:35:23 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:35:16 PST Message-ID: <20031206023516.64066.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:35:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205212408.02760ce0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > My statement above might be misleading. I don't > know if the freemasons > didn't allow Catholics to join or not. I do know > that the Catholic Church > didn't allow its members to join the freemasons. I see. I misinterpreted. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:44:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62i1Bp027061 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:44:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D2B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:29 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62gTx18147 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024224.OCGG1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD14211.20401@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:42:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: WHEW! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm back in action. You'll get a little spurt of old mail from me in a minute. Probably I won't be able to catch up and get ahead now since I have lots of other e-stuff to get done. End of story (which you'll get the beginning of later): I got so frustrated by my dead phone line that I finally went to the office and called BellSouth from there. Got a nice person after the long wait, who told me to unplug DSL modem and wait a minute, then test a phone for a dial tone, then, if that didn't work, unplug answering machine, test a different phone, then, if that didn't work, unplug each phone in the house, testing from a different phone. None of that worked. I was feeling down, down, down, and more and more pissed off. But then suddenly I tried pushing the off button on the surge protector and then turning it back on. And everything was ok again. I plan to send e-mail to BellSouth complimenting the nice woman on the phone tonight. I don't know her name, but maybe if I give the approximate time of the call, that will help. What I liked about her was that when she first answered and said "How can I help you?" I said something like, "You can help me majorly if you make my phone work again. I'm in charge of a banquet for 130 or so people and have got to have e-mail access." Anyway, we then went through that rather long rigamarole of what all I should try (after she tested my line and said that the problem was inside my house). And when I thanked her for her help, she said, "Good luck with the banquet." I was impressed that she remembered the banquet thing. It was not as if I had gone on and on about it. It was a quick introductory comment. She was good folk. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:44:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62iFBp027065 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:44:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D2C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:44 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62gix18155 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024239.OCHG1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD10D49.9010408@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:57:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Amahl References: <20031205153323.82643.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031205153323.82643.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>>I wish you could all come and see it. >> >>Me, too, Kaspar. >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > > I wish ALL of us could go. What a fortunate occasion > on which to convene. Maybe we can. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62iMBp027068 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:44:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020A235@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:50 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62gox18163 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024245.OCHU1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD10E5C.3020400@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:01:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>Are those shortened forms? Of what? > Good question. They vary, I suspect. Sic is Latin. And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. I'm not sure why -- my study of Latin was '59-'61. And I don't say the Latin sic very often. I'm much more likely to say sic as in "I'm gonna sic my killer dog on you." That one I pronounce [sIk]. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62iSBp027072 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:44:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D2CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:56 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62gux18185 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024251.OCIN1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD10EAB.9020302@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:03:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202192336.00a29d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031202193448.00a695b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031205075438.00b5c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205075438.00b5c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Can't make it this year! Too much going on suddenly Simplify, simplify, simplify. > plus we're wanting to > save funds for Alaska in May. But how many Wordslers will you see in Alaska? Dusty Deal has apparently moved. Hmmm. Maybe we could have a Wordsler gathering in Alaska in May. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:44:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62iYBp027091 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:44:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D2B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:03 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62h2x18212 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024257.OCIY1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:42:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD11004.2020407@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:08:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205112813.00b6d090@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205112813.00b6d090@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many >> other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level >> as well. --clo > > Thanks for the info. There are still Grange Halls in this area of > Maine. I never knew exactly what they were beyond social and rural. I remember studying about Grange in American history -- it's political clout or whatever, but I also have it stuck in my head that Grange is like an adult form of 4-H clubs. (Note that I am saying that's stuck in *my* head -- I am not claiming any accuracy. I know basically nothing about 4-H except that it involves farmers -- or future farmers. And I have Grange stuck in my mind as also involving farmers.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jHBp027116 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020A204@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62hEx18252 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024309.OCKB1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD117E8.8060707@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:42:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: TWD References: <6550e6817d.6817d6550e@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <6550e6817d.6817d6550e@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Where'd he go? Probably to his usual noon position between the cafeteria and the bakery. I can't remember whether I saw him there when I went to lunch around 11:30. I saw him in a somewhat different place when I was leaving campus later -- but far away from the webcam. He was between the Psych bldg and the PR offices. Early this morning -- or maybe it was yesterday -- I think it was yesterday, I saw him stalking squirrels. But he would not move in for the kill. The campus squirrels aren't very scared of anything and thus would be easy targets. They ignored him. He would get into a sort of pointing position, then creep closer, then stop several yards away and stare. Then when the squirrel would decide to go on up a tree (casually -- no fear of TWD), he would run up to the tree and pretend to have treed the squirrel. It was hilarious. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jIBp027117 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020A233@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:09 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62h8x18232 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024303.OCJR1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD11515.8010704@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:30:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Well, Merde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have no phone line -- as in it's totally dead. I thought maybe it was some kind of DSL downage, so hopped into answering some of the downloaded mail a little while ago, using "send later" with the intention of then using my dial-up backup. But that didn't work either. The modem found no dial tone. I then picked up the telephone receiver myself and, like the modem, I found no dial tone. I had pulled the cell phone out of the drawer just this morning and charged it when I started thinking about how I should take it to Jackson tomorrow so that I could dial 911 when being attacked in the wicked city that my hometown has become. So I just tried calling Bell South repair, but I was of course on hold for ages and was watching all of my Tracfone minutes evaporate. So I hung up. I'll go on through the mail that I had downloaded early this afternoon, using "send later," and will send them whenever I next have a dial tone. This is very bad timing since ARF-banquet matters are at a critical stage, and I need to be able to get/send e-mail. I guess I'll go to my office Sunday and use my clunky computer there if I still have no phone service here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jIBq027117 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020A205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62hRx18277 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024321.OCLK1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD11D98.2050402@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:06:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778E7@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > If someone hands me a rope and sends me down the street to get another piece > the same size, that what they'll get. If someone sends me down to get one > the "exact same" size, I'll be asking them what "exact same" means vs. the > first request. I would assume in a case like that that the point would be to emphasize the importance of the sizing -- that even a difference of .00001 might be . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jJBp027125 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D2D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62hKx18265 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024315.OCKQ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD11CD0.4020903@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:03:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: class and childhood References: <200312051817.hB5IHaj29022@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312051817.hB5IHaj29022@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:50 -0600, Doris Markland > wrote: >> Rich bitch? Never heard of >>that attitude. > I'm happy to hear that words like "rich bitch" weren't part > of the atmosphere for you. And no, I don't suppose people In my current e-confusion, I seem to be coming in on the middle of something -- as in I didn't see the "rich bitch" reference that is now being discussed. Are you saying, Clo, that that is a or an ? There are of course rich bitches in the world, just as there are of course poor bitches and middle-income bitches. But somehow I'm getting the impression that you think rich and bitch . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jKBp027128 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D2CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62hXx18288 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024327.OCMB1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD11E41.7040805@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:09:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312051620.hB5GKbj06917@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20031205094734.00b89eb8@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031205094734.00b89eb8@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: >> But what I'm talking about is that for some people life experience sort >> of flows through them, while others want to catch it, analyze it, break >> it down, give it names, and put it into boxes. Two people could have >> grown up in the same environment and be different in this respect. >> >> - D. M. > Absolutely. My sister and I had totally different parents. Certainly my RRB and I had in our attitudes toward pretty much everything. But I'm not sure that it has anything to do with letting life experience flow or analyzing life experience. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jKBp027129 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D2BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62hdx18302 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024334.OCMP1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:38:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Likewise, there are still primarily A-A chapters and > a parallel group whose name I have forgotten. My dad has been active in > breaching divides between such orgs, since both are important issues to > him. I've always wondered why fraternities and sororities, at least here, seem to be all black or all white. I don't know whether there are no opposite-race members in any of the fraternities or sororities, but they are few if they do exist. I know that nationally fraternities and sororities are all supposedly , but I wonder how much integration there really is. I think I told before the story of going to my sorority's national office in Memphis with some of my old college friends not many years ago -- March before the April I left for Japan. Five or six of us had gotten together at a friend's house in Memphis. She was the only one of us still into sorority stuff, but we found the visit to the ChiO national headquarters fun in various ways -- like the pictures we took there that I showed to my serious Aged Owl friend here, the friend I had enjoyed grossing out through the years by putting my ChiO pin on Bernard's doggy shirt, etc. Anyway, I remember that my friend Fay, who teaches at Northwestern, and I, the two of us most blatantly anti-discrimination (though all the others other than our hostess were also with us in this respect and even our hostess was ok about it -- she, btw, was the first "snob" I'd ever met), questioned the honcho who was showing us around the headquarters about race. She assured us that there were black ChiOs. I am skeptical, however, unless they've changed some of the ritual, which included "a gentlewoman of the white race." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:45:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62jKBq027129 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:45:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D2CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:47 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62hjx18309 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206024340.OCNK1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:43:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1256C.1030808@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:40:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Seriously, if anyone is interested, here's the info: > > http://tinyurl.com/xwtt Please remind me that I'm filing this in my /Temp file to look at later. I can't click on it now since I have no phone line. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 20:52:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB62qdBp027224 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:52:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D2E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:51:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:51:08 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62p8x19054 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:51:08 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.14e.277e15ee (3699) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:50:56 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14e.277e15ee.2d029e10@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:50:56 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Battlestar Galactica To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/5/2003 8:22:58 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << New BG?? >> Battlestar Galactica. Sci-Fi Channel has remade it; the biggest change I've seen from the reviews and previews is in the Cylons. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com By your command. -- Lucifer From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:01:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB631nBp027362 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:01:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020A26D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:00:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:00:18 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB630Ix19851 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:00:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206030013.OGIK1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:00:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:00:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>? What are sic and tic clippings of? Sicafix? Ticafonic? > > Hah! I did not know they are clippings. Cite, please. Cite of what? I didn't think they were clippings. Mic is a clipping of microphone, which is why I didn't understand your point about sic and tic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6344Bp027413 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:04:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D2EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:02:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:02:33 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB632Wx20150 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:02:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206030227.OGUW1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:02:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD146C5.1010506@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:02:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin References: <3FCF2F25.31762.2DCAE5FA@localhost> <3FD0AA8C.20202.3394F664@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FD0AA8C.20202.3394F664@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: > I really thought it more appropriate for you. I am less interested in > the "former nun" part than the strange attempt to justify herself in > her moving back to the "real world". See Chaucer's Monk. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:09:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB639bBp027458 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:09:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D30C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:08:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:08:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB62vmx19654 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:57:48 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB62ub61015231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:56:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:57:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >are few if they do exist. I know that nationally fraternities and >sororities are all supposedly , but I wonder how much >integration there really is. I think I told before the story of going I resigned from my national sorority after one year in order to protest national segregationist policies. (I was a jr then, for I pledged as a sophomore.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:13:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63DHBp027504 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:13:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D301@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:11:45 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63Bjx20855 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:11:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206031140.OIVP1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:11:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD148ED.3040106@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:11:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > I am physically unable to eat asparagus. It > triggers my gag reflex, for some reason. Either fresh or canned? They are among those vegetables that taste (to me) quite different depending upon whether they're fresh or canned (or frozen in the case of some vegetables, but I don't think I've ever encountered frozen asparagus). I prefer fresh asparagus but don't mind canned. It's just a different experience. But with English peas I detest fresh (or frozen) but love canned. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63ITBp027632 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:18:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020A35E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63Gvx21217 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206031652.OJYW1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD14A25.3030505@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:16:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> <004f01c3bb87$00296dc0$dbcadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > I can't think of anything else, offhand, > that's like asparagus. I don't know of anything else that makes your tt smell funny. That puts it in a class. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:18:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63IUBp027635 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:18:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:16:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB636wx20523 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:06:58 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB635n61016806 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:05:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:06:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>? What are sic and tic clippings of? Sicafix? Ticafonic? >> >> Hah! I did not know they are clippings. Cite, please. > >Cite of what? I didn't think they were clippings. Then why did you ask what they were clippings of??? Mic is a clipping of >microphone, which is why I didn't understand your point about sic and tic. They are part of our language. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:47:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63ldBp028061 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:47:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D358@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:46:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:46:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63k7x24196 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:46:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020A3E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:46:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312060346.hB63k7x24196@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:46:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:19:42 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- bonniev wrote: >> >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish >> members. >> >> I would have thought not. Catholics were not >> allowed to join. >> >> >> bonnie > >But in the sucky South, black applicants are >assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their >way through the degrees. How long this had been true, >I do not know. But it is certainly true now. I will consult my local expert. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:49:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63n8Bp028083 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:49:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:37 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63lbx24402 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206034732.FKVO1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD15155.1020509@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:47:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I resigned from my national sorority after one year in order to protest > national segregationist policies. (I was a jr then, for I pledged as a > sophomore.) You resigned from your "national sorority"? What does that mean? I mean wouldn't you resign locally from your local sorority, with its national affiliation? Why did you pledge as a sophomore? Didn't people commit suicide or at least drop out of school if they didn't get bids as freshmen? (As I think I've said before, I found the fraternity/sorority thing even at the time, but in my day it was still assumed as , as in it was what all people did, just as it had been in my parents' college years. My parents would have thought it weird beyond words if I hadn't joined a sorority, even thought they in no way expected my brother to join my father's fraternity or me to join my mother's sorority. And neither of us did.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:49:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63nKBp028094 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:49:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D361@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63lmx24425 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020A44C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312060347.hB63lmx24425@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:47:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:06 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> > I would have thought not. Catholics were not >> > allowed to join. >> > bonnie >> >>But in the sucky South, black applicants are >>assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their >>way through the degrees. How long this had been true, >>I do not know. But it is certainly true now. > >My statement above might be misleading. I don't know if the freemasons >didn't allow Catholics to join or not. I do know that the Catholic Church >didn't allow its members to join the freemasons. > > >bonnie That fits better with what I heard as a kid. My uncle was Catholic and lived a couple of blocks from a Knights of Columbus meeting hall. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 21:57:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB63vsBp028262 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:57:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D39D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:56:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:56:22 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63uMx25492 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:56:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.104]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206035617.FNQJ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:56:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:56:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Then why did you ask what they were clippings of??? > > Mic is a clipping of >microphone, which is why I didn't understand your > point about sic and tic. > > They are part of our language. ??? I have no idea what your point is. You brought pronunciation into a spelling discussion and then seemed to veer back into spelling, and then who knows. You lost me a long time ago. I will say again that I have never heard the pronunciation [mIk] for the clipped form of microphone but that I think of the spelling "mic" for it as normal since I don't see where a k would come from. Is there a name for the opposite of a spelling-pronunciation? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:01:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6410Bp028349 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:01:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D3E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63xSx25921 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020A4E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312060359.hB63xSx25921@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:08:52 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >>> I held local office in Grange, learned Parliamentary procedure and many >>> other useful things from them, and held a membership at the State level >>> as well. --clo >> >> Thanks for the info. There are still Grange Halls in this area of >> Maine. I never knew exactly what they were beyond social and rural. > >I remember studying about Grange in American history -- it's political >clout or whatever, but I also have it stuck in my head that Grange is >like an adult form of 4-H clubs. (Note that I am saying that's stuck in >*my* head -- I am not claiming any accuracy. I know basically nothing >about 4-H except that it involves farmers -- or future farmers. And I >have Grange stuck in my mind as also involving farmers.) > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think you have conflated some things. FFA - Future Farmers of America - (and the distaff FHA, Future Homemakers of America) were organizations you could join in high school. Think of it as Rural ROTC. 4-H is part of Cooperative Extension, a piece of the mission of land-grant colleges. 4-Hers learn crafts, sort of like scouting badge projects, but also have the chance to raise animals. Think County Fair exhibits. Grange has a youth arm too, called Junior Grange. Junior Grange members may do some of the same things as 4-H, but not as the main focus. They have meetings and learn leadership training as well as farm- and home-skills. It's Junior Grange that selects the Dairy Prince and Princess you may have seen at the State Fair. These are all rural-life related activities for young people, so it's easy to see why you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:05:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6457Bp028398 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:05:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020A55C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:28 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB643Rx27158 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D4A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312060403.hB643Rx27158@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: class and childhood To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:03:28 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:50 -0600, Doris Markland >> wrote: > >>> Rich bitch? Never heard of >>>that attitude. > >> I'm happy to hear that words like "rich bitch" weren't part >> of the atmosphere for you. And no, I don't suppose people > >In my current e-confusion, I seem to be coming in on the middle of >something -- as in I didn't see the "rich bitch" reference that is now >being discussed. Are you saying, Clo, that that is a or an >? There are of course rich bitches in the world, just as >there are of course poor bitches and middle-income bitches. But somehow >I'm getting the impression that you think rich and bitch . >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You are indeed confused. I made yet another humorous side-reference to a phrase in Doris's post. It was she who said something like - here are examples of treatment of other people based on class which I witness as a child. I responded that I was happy to hear she hadn't been exposed to such rough language. (and of course, neither was I when young) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:07:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB647vBp028453 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:07:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D532@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:26 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB646Qx27903 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020A620@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200312060406.hB646Qx27903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:57:46 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>are few if they do exist. I know that nationally fraternities and >>sororities are all supposedly , but I wonder how much >>integration there really is. I think I told before the story of going > >I resigned from my national sorority after one year in order to protest >national segregationist policies. (I was a jr then, for I pledged as a >sophomore.) > >Bethany Go, grrl! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:10:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB64AxBp028528 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:10:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020A68B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:09:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:09:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB63xQx25876 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:26 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB63wF61026848 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD15155.1020509@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> <3FD15155.1020509@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >You resigned from your "national sorority"? What does that mean? I >mean wouldn't you resign locally from your local sorority, with its >national affiliation? It means I resigned my membership in the national organization, not just the local chapter. It created quite a stir. They wanted my pin back. I did not give it to them. >Why did you pledge as a sophomore? I had no interest in sororities as a freshman. I did not seek a bid. Didn't people >commit suicide or at least drop out of school if they didn't get bids as >freshmen? Nobody I knew did either of those things. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:12:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB64CuBp028559 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:12:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D5CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:11:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:11:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB641Ox26725 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:01:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB640F61027467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:00:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >??? I have no idea what your point is. You brought pronunciation into You are probably too young to either remember or understand, Natalie. Apparently the earliest known citation for the spelling /mic/ is 1961 - some of us learned our language long before 1961. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:48:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB64mnBp028991 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:48:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6D613@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:47:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5NEHCF7aQz0CkcHW2yPSDHVVxb4WZW1w@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB64lGx31853 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:47:16 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD2130617 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AC32334A for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:47:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:47:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Oh. It's because of context and history, of course. Consider sic, tic, >etc. > >Bethany Are you saying that pronunciation is dependent on spelling? Has there ever been a time in post-Norman Conquest history when English speakers used spelling as a guide to pronunciation (Noah Webster's reforms aside)? Talk about history and context! Ken Miller Department of Orthoepy Johnson Institute for the Study of Harmless Drudgery From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 22:57:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB64vEBp029097 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:57:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D65E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:55:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:55:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB64tgx00829 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:55:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB64tb6X006041 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:55:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:55:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5510248883.20031205225539@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD10E5C.3020400@maynor.net> References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> <3FD10E5C.3020400@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. This is beyond mutant. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 23:28:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB65SLBp029499 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:28:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020A872@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 0:26:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:26:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB656px02811 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:06:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB656crm002053 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:06:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <527576117.20031205230640@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Sounds very interesting. I'll have to look for it. I definitely have blue > collar roots. My parents weren't as poor as Clo's. In fact, we weren't > really poor at all. We owned a house, had enough to eat, went on a yearly > driving vacation on the weeks that the Kohler Plumbing Company closed down > so that its workers could have time off, etc. Wow! We didn't own a house till I was in high school. We seldom went on vacations as a family--just to Canada. But we took turns going on trips with my dad. > But the attitudes and aspirations around me never included things > like college or improving one's mind through reading. Oh. Well, it was assumed that we would pay for our own college--but we all read. My Mom stopped going to PTA meetings because all they talked about was how to get their kids to read, and my Mom wanted to know how to get them to stop reading... Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 23:28:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB65SUBp029502 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:28:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020A87A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 0:26:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:26:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB65IYx03805 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:18:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB65IUrm008449 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:18:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:18:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1224369526.20031205231833@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312051705.hB5H5Nj15471@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312051705.hB5H5Nj15471@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > And even that - the notion of getting carpets cleaned at all, even w/ a > rented machine, is way above the experience of poverty for many. It's > shocking how expensive it is to be clean - a fact people who have not been > there can't appreciate very well. Yep. Not just personal cleanliness, but house cleanliness, too. I was lucky because I have room to stockpile things--I think I'm still working on the first package of paper towels I bought over two years ago. Ditto for handcream. I recently had to buy contact lens solution for the first time. I replaced the vinegar and ammonia I bought two years ago, too. But I need a lot of things--underwear, for example. And shoes. Those are more expensive. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 23:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB65SaBp029505 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:28:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D767@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 0:27:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:26:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB651hx01858 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:01:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB651M6X009451 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:01:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:01:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1564535758.20031205230124@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 05, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>??? I have no idea what your point is. You brought pronunciation into > You are probably too young to either remember or understand, Natalie. > Apparently the earliest known citation for the spelling /mic/ is 1961 - > some of us learned our language long before 1961. But you claimed that it has only been around for 8 years! You guys are giving linguists a bad name. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 5 23:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB65SsBp029508 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:28:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6D78C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 0:27:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:26:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB653Ux02325 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:03:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB653Q6X010571 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:03:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <756210254.20031205230328@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Great movie, but damn!!!! 2 hours of downright meanness. One thing that struck me as a WLM was how low class ET talked compared to what her station in life was supposed to be. (Daughter of univ. pres., wife of univ. prof.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 02:18:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB68IeBp032297 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 02:18:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6D9F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 3:17:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 357252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 03:17:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB68Gwx18181 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 03:17:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB68GvkF015622 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:16:57 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB68GuIZ015620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:16:56 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:16:56 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 400 messages deleted and a music recommendation Message-ID: <20031206081656.GA15556@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = I cannot resist adding my idiosyncracies to the pizza thread that will not = die. = Two things I do not eat are pepperoni and mushrooms, which happen = be extremely popular pizza toppings especially in group settings. = I've gotten very good at picking them off pizza slices - pepperoni isn't = too bad but finding every last bit of mushroom can be a bitch. = = And now I'm reminded of eating pizza with pat'n'steph near Amsterdam = airport after Floriade ... = Now that you mention it, I do remember this meal. But certainly you didn't order a pizza with pepperoni or mushrooms on it, since as is custom here we would all have ordered our own pizzas. From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 05:58:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6BwZBp003005 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 05:58:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DAD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 6:56:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:56:59 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Buxx29091 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:56:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.116]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206115655.ORUW1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1C407.9080808@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:56:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> <3FD15155.1020509@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>You resigned from your "national sorority"? What does that mean? I >>mean wouldn't you resign locally from your local sorority, with its >>national affiliation? > > It means I resigned my membership in the national organization, not just > the local chapter. It created quite a stir. They wanted my pin back. > I did not give it to them. I don't see how one would be a member of the national organization without being a member of a local chapter. Those two things went together in my sorority -- as in we paid dues locally only (though part of that money no doubt was sent to the national office). Re the pin, I've heard of people having their "pin jerked" -- meaning they did something horrible and were kicked out. And I've heard of people "turning in" their pin -- as in choosing to drop out. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard of quitting or being kicked out of a fraternity or sorority with language that didn't involve pins -- pins being jerked or turning in one's pin. What did you do with your pin? Do you still have it? >>Why did you pledge as a sophomore? > > I had no interest in sororities as a freshman. I did not seek a bid. Why did you become interested? The dislike of the concept that I had even as a freshman grew stronger with the years, not weaker. > Didn't people >commit suicide or at least drop out of school if they > didn't get bids as >freshmen? > > Nobody I knew did either of those things. Actually, I didn't know anybody personally who committed suicide, but I did know of some cases of people dropping out of school. That happened quite often at Ole Miss. They would ultimately get a degree somewhere -- transferring to a school that didn't have fraternities/sororities usually. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:05:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6C5CBp003194 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:05:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:03:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:03:37 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6C3bx29457 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:03:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.116]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206120333.OSQG1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:03:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1C595.70606@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:03:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <200312060359.hB63xSx25921@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312060359.hB63xSx25921@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I think you have conflated some things. FFA - Future Farmers of America > - (and the distaff FHA, Future Homemakers of America) were organizations > you could join in high school. Think of it as Rural ROTC. > > 4-H is part of Cooperative Extension, a piece of the mission of land-grant > colleges. 4-Hers learn crafts, sort of like scouting badge projects, but > also have the chance to raise animals. Think County Fair exhibits. I know about Cooperative Extension since I know people who work in it. They are sort of hybrid employees -- part state, part federal. And I know that MSU hosts 4-H meetings in the summer because I see signs welcoming 4-H people and giving directions to where they are to gather. I also have heard the term Future Farmers of America. Wouldn't the FFA and the 4-H attract basically the same group of people? Like were rural children likely to be in both? > It's Junior Grange that selects the Dairy Prince and Princess you may have > seen at the State Fair. I've never heard of a Dairy Prince and Princess, though I remember seeing cows at the Fair. The main thing I did at the Fair was ride rides. Loved it. > These are all rural-life related activities for young people, so it's easy > to see why you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. It is that we're talking about The Fair since I am setting out from here in about an hour to point my car's nose toward the fairgrounds in Jackson. The building where the crafts fair is held is near there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6C8YBp003224 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:08:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DAED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:06:59 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6C6wx29630 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:06:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.116]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206120655.OTCT1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1C65F.7000605@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:06:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>??? I have no idea what your point is. You brought pronunciation into > > You are probably too young to either remember or understand, Natalie. > Apparently the earliest known citation for the spelling /mic/ is 1961 - > some of us learned our language long before 1961. It is quite likely that I never had occasion to write "mic" before '61 and is conceivable that I didn't have occasion to see it written. I am much more likely to use full forms in writing -- e.g., I would be much more likely to write "microphone." But I still get the feeling that at times you are talking about speech -- things like "learned our language." As I've said before, I've never heard anybody pronounce mic as [mIk]. It's always [maIk] in my world. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:12:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6CCcBp003322 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:12:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020ABF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:10:58 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6CAwx29816 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:10:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.116]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206121054.OTQQ1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:10:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1C74E.80000@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:10:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Has there ever > been a time in post-Norman Conquest history when English speakers used > spelling as a guide to pronunciation (Noah Webster's reforms aside)? Yes. I'd say that the majority of English speakers these days, at least in the US, put [h] at the beginning of "humble" -- that those of us who don't are . And there are some people who put [l] in "salmon." The list could go on and on. (Wasn't it post NC that the th in names like Katherine and Anthony changed from [t] in much of the English-speaking world?) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:13:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6CDtBp003335 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:13:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DAF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:12:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:12:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6CCKx29948 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:12:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.116]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206121216.OTVC1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:12:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1C7A0.9060206@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:12:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> <3FD10E5C.3020400@maynor.net> <5510248883.20031205225539@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <5510248883.20031205225539@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. > > Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. > > This is beyond mutant. You will be happy to know that I can't even remember when I last had occasion to say the Latin "sic" -- if, in fact, I ever have. It's not something that makes its way into conversation easily. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:27:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6CRaBp003628 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:27:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DB19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:26:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:26:01 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6CQ1x31010 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:26:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.116]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031206122555.RVZC1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD1CAD5.20000@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:25:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Politics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This (Stevenson's response at the end) is something that alas is true and that has worried me about Dean from the beginning: ****************************************** Don't get me wrong. I agree with Mr. Dean on many issues, and I admire his willingness to oppose our Iraq invasion from the beginning. But shiny-eyed teenagers who distribute leaflets for him in places like Yamhill County are going to get very cold stares — and end up heartbroken. If the Democrats are serious about governing, they should remember the words of one of their nominees, Adlai Stevenson. After one of his typically brilliant campaign speeches, someone shouted out to Stevenson from the crowd that he had the votes of all thinking Americans. Stevenson shouted back, saying that wasn't enough: "I need a majority!" ********************************************* from: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/06/opinion/06KRIS.html But now I must turn off the computer and get organized to leave for Jackson. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:55:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6CtVBp003998 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:55:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DB37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:53:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:53:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Crux01802 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:53:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020AC7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:53:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061253.hB6Crux01802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:53:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:59:24 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>You resigned from your "national sorority"? What does that mean? I >>mean wouldn't you resign locally from your local sorority, with its >>national affiliation? > >It means I resigned my membership in the national organization, not just >the local chapter. It created quite a stir. They wanted my pin back. >I did not give it to them. > >>Why did you pledge as a sophomore? > >I had no interest in sororities as a freshman. I did not seek a bid. > >Didn't people >commit suicide or at least drop out of school if they >didn't get bids as >freshmen? > >Nobody I knew did either of those things. > >Bethany I have read in books about girls who joined sororities but I never actually met one till a couple of years ago when one of our student employees was a "sister". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 06:58:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6CwnBp004057 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:58:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020AC80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:57:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:57:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Cv7x02078 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:57:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020AC84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 7:57:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061257.hB6Cv7x02078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:57:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:55:39 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. > >Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. > >This is beyond mutant. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism I also pronounce "sic" with and [i], and "Cicero" with [k]s to boot - the remnants of my high school Latin teacher's influence. No "church" latin for her! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:16:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DGYBp004376 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:16:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020ACA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:14:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DEwx03656 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:14:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020ACA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:14:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061314.hB6DEwx03656@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:14:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:03:33 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I think you have conflated some things. FFA - Future Farmers of America >> - (and the distaff FHA, Future Homemakers of America) were organizations >> you could join in high school. Think of it as Rural ROTC. >> >> 4-H is part of Cooperative Extension, a piece of the mission of land-grant >> colleges. 4-Hers learn crafts, sort of like scouting badge projects, but >> also have the chance to raise animals. Think County Fair exhibits. > >I know about Cooperative Extension since I know people who work in it. >They are sort of hybrid employees -- part state, part federal. And I >know that MSU hosts 4-H meetings in the summer because I see signs >welcoming 4-H people and giving directions to where they are to gather. > I also have heard the term Future Farmers of America. Wouldn't the >FFA and the 4-H attract basically the same group of people? Like were >rural children likely to be in both? Not at all. Many urban/suburban children or "townies", kids with no ties to farms join 4-H, raise a rabbit or a lamb, and enjoy the activities. The FFA boys were either going on to land grants like Cornell or to local Community Colleges to learn animal hubandry, farm management, and the like, or going directly back to the family farm after hs to start learning the ropes from Dad or Uncle. >> It's Junior Grange that selects the Dairy Prince and Princess you may have >> seen at the State Fair. > >I've never heard of a Dairy Prince and Princess, though I remember >seeing cows at the Fair. The main thing I did at the Fair was ride >rides. Loved it. > >> These are all rural-life related activities for young people, so it's easy >> to see why you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. > >It is that we're talking about The Fair since I am setting out >from here in about an hour to point my car's nose toward the fairgrounds >in Jackson. The building where the crafts fair is held is near there. > Enjoy the trip! I am babysitting my 6mo old niece while her Mom tries to sell goatsmilk soap at a crafts fair this am. My youngest sister is the only one of us who returned to rural roots - I drink her goats' milk, eat her eggs, cheese, and meat (pork and chicken), use her soap and admire her homeschooling prowess. My other sibs are all engineers or programmers by training; I'm the only other one who went in for . clo >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:18:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DIEBp004413 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:18:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DB5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:16:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DGcx03794 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-72.gwi.net [216.195.150.72]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6DGZAr037167; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206081544.00b2dba8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:16:41 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: two feet of snow Cc: tessnalencz@yahoo.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We have nothing yet but a bit of wind. But here's the technical discussion: models in fairly good agreement with strong nor'easter to effect all of Maine the next 36 hours with heavy snow and strong winds. Low pressure off Cape Cod will slowly move south of the Gulf of Maine the next 48 hours. Strong middle level frontogenesis forecasted to move from central and northern New Hampshire this evening and then across central and downeast Maine tonight. This feature will help produce significant snowfall rates across most of downeast and central Maine tonight into early Sunday. Also the left front quadrant of the polar jet will move right across downeast Maine tonight which should enhance snowfall rates and the slow movement of the storm across the Gulf of Maine will allow for an extended period of snowfall. The combination of all these factors indicate snowfall amounts across central and downeast Maine to approach 2 feet by Sunday night. With a strong northeast wind gradient produce by the deepening low pressure in the Gulf and the strong high centered to our north...blizzard conditions still looks good and have decided to extend Blizzard Warning into central zones also. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:21:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DL6Bp004480 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:21:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DB73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:19:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:19:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DJTx04055 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:19:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020ACAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:19:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061319.hB6DJTx04055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:19:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:41 -0500, bonniev wrote: >We have nothing yet but a bit of wind. But here's the technical discussion: > The report from my bil when dropping Kate off, was that the roads are not good - the salt is not working and they are icy and treacherous. Snowfall is steady and straight down - not at all. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:30:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DUxBp004627 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:30:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DB90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:29:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:29:23 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DTNx04882 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:29:23 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-72.gwi.net [216.195.150.72]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6DTLGn008846 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:29:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:29:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <527576117.20031205230640@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Wow! We didn't own a house till I was in high school. We seldom went >on vacations as a family--just to Canada. But we took turns going on >trips with my dad. My parents were aged 41 and 42 when I was born. I don't know that they went on vacations when their first three kids were little. But, by the time I was seven or eight, the other three kids were grown and on their own. They would take me on driving vacations out West. I saw the Grand Canyon and the Tetons and Yellowstone and the Seattle World's Fair and once we went all the way to San Diego, where an uncle lived. >Oh. Well, it was assumed that we would pay for our own college--but we >all read. My Mom stopped going to PTA meetings because all they talked >about was how to get their kids to read, and my Mom wanted to know how >to get them to stop reading... --Karen, practicing fierce >optimism I read too. There was a public library. The only things around the house were Modern Romance and Reader's Digest. I remember my mother often saying "put that book down and get outside to play". bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:31:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DVCBp004648 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:31:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DB76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:29:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:29:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DJax04088 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:19:36 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6DIO61018154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:18:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:19:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >Are you saying that pronunciation is dependent on spelling? No - if I had wanted to say that, I would have said that. I was talking about a rather abrupt change in spelling. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:33:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DX3Bp004678 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:33:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020AC93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:31:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DLSx04382 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:21:28 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6DKJ61018430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:20:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:21:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <1564535758.20031205230124@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> <1564535758.20031205230124@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> You are probably too young to either remember or understand, Natalie. >> Apparently the earliest known citation for the spelling /mic/ is 1961 - >> some of us learned our language long before 1961. > >But you claimed that it has only been around for 8 years! a> >You guys are giving linguists a bad name. Please pay attention. I claimed its usage in East Tennessee is 8-10 years - to the best of my knowledge. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:36:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DaoBp004699 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:36:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020AC9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:35:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:14 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DZEx05712 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DBA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:35:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061335.hB6DZEx05712@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:29:26 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Oh. Well, it was assumed that we would pay for our own college--but we >>all read. My Mom stopped going to PTA meetings because all they talked >>about was how to get their kids to read, and my Mom wanted to know how >>to get them to stop reading... --Karen, practicing fierce >>optimism > >I read too. There was a public library. The only things around the house >were Modern Romance and Reader's Digest. I remember my mother often saying >"put that book down and get outside to play". > > >bonnie I would guess this was a frequent early Words-L moment. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:39:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Dd4Bp004763 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:39:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DB95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:37:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DbSx05961 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:37:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-72.gwi.net [216.195.150.72]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6DbQGn009786 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:37:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206083531.00bb7e40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:37:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <200312061319.hB6DJTx04055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The report from my bil when dropping Kate off, was that the roads are >not good - the salt is not working and they are icy and treacherous. Yuck. I'm not ready for this. Usually we have two or three small storms to get us in the mood before we take a direct hit from a winter hurricane. >Snowfall is steady and straight down - not at all. >clo I'm sure it won't be straight down here. There will be little point in shoveling until it stops blowing around a bit. But I'd like to get it shoveled before it warms up on Monday and gets to be a heavy snow. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DhtBp004863 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:43:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DBBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:42:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:42:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DWKx05112 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:32:20 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6DVA61019926 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:31:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:32:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD1C407.9080808@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD12522.4050807@maynor.net> <3FD15155.1020509@maynor.net> <3FD1C407.9080808@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >turning in one's pin. What did you do with your pin? Do you still have >it? I have no idea. >Why did you become interested? The dislike of the concept that I had >even as a freshman grew stronger with the years, not weaker. Social networks - new friends. As I recall, our sororities and fraternities went national about the time I entered collge. Lamar had been a 4-year school for only a short time before I entered. That probably had something to do with it. Before I entered college, I know almost nothing about such organizations. Remember - I was the first person in my family to go to college. There were family NO college traditions. Also, remember that we are talking about the period 1955-1959 - Brown v. Bd. of Education, integration. I worked on the school newspaper, and for a while I had to work my way through segregationist picket lines to get to my office on campus at night. They would search my car sometimes. I suppose they feared that I was smuggling in Africa-American students! >Actually, I didn't know anybody personally who committed suicide, but I >did know of some cases of people dropping out of school. That happened >quite often at Ole Miss. They would ultimately get a degree somewhere >-- transferring to a school that didn't have fraternities/sororities >usually. LOL. Few individuals I knew could have afforded to switch schools - we were homies. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:45:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Dj8Bp004899 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DBC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:43:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:43:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6DXWx05512 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:33:32 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6DWM61020089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:32:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD1C7A0.9060206@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> <3FD10E5C.3020400@maynor.net> <5510248883.20031205225539@WordWrite.com> <3FD1C7A0.9060206@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >You will be happy to know that I can't even remember when I last had >occasion to say the Latin "sic" -- if, in fact, I ever have. It's not >something that makes its way into conversation easily. I say the word in class often - usually several times a week. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 07:50:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6DoRBp004968 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:50:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DBC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 8:48:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:48:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Dcpx06050 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:38:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6Dbf61020915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:37:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:38:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312061253.hB6Crux01802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312061253.hB6Crux01802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I have read in books about girls who joined sororities but I never actually >met one till a couple of years ago when one of our student employees was a >"sister". In some ways it embarrasses me that I joined one - and I wasted a heck of a lot of money (all of which I was earning as a Weingarten's emplopyee - does Weingarten's still exist?) - but the process of joining, serving as an officer for a year,and then unjoining taught me a lot about social organizations generally - it would have been difficult for me to have leanred the same things elsewhere. My previous organizations were Girl Scouts and Camp Fire Girls. I was never going to be eligible for Junior League .... so perhaps the tuition was not that expensive. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:09:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6E9lBp005268 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:09:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DC14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:08:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 340871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:08:11 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f62.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6E8Bx09094 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:08:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:08:05 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.137 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:08:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.137] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: two feet of snow Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:08:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2003 14:08:05.0419 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E473FB0:01C3BC02] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:41 -0500, bonniev wrote: >We have nothing yet but a bit of wind. But here's the technical >discussion: We're right in the thick of it. Snow's coming down steadily without any let up. Looks like there's 8-9" on the deck. It looks really quiet out. I'm going to be a good citizen and stay indoors until the snow eases. Give the road crews time to deal with it. I'm glad it's a 1-2 punch. Yesterday's early morning shovelling stint helped clear the cobwebs, warmed up the back muscles. _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:27:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6ERDBp005434 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:27:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DC2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:25:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:25:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EPbx10512 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:25:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6EPZ2f009289 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:25:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6EPXJC009254; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:25:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206062459.00aa8b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:28:04 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: joining In-Reply-To: <200312060346.hB63k7x24196@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:46 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:19:42 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >--- bonniev wrote: > >> >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish > >> members. > >> > >> I would have thought not. Catholics were not > >> allowed to join. > >> > >> > >> bonnie > > > >But in the sucky South, black applicants are > >assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their > >way through the degrees. How long this had been true, > >I do not know. But it is certainly true now. > >I will consult my local expert. > >clo I have a memory that it was the church that did not allow them to join. The masons weren't keeping them out. However, my memory often fails me. It seemed that my church was opposed to the "secretive" parts of these organizations. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:29:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6ETTBp005450 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:29:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DC3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:27:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6ERqx10759 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:27:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6ERpeO003006 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:27:51 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6ERoa2002972; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:27:50 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206062931.00a4cd00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:30:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312060347.hB63lmx24425@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:47 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:06 -0500, bonniev wrote: > > >> > I would have thought not. Catholics were not > >> > allowed to join. > >> > bonnie > >> > >>But in the sucky South, black applicants are > >>assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their > >>way through the degrees. How long this had been true, > >>I do not know. But it is certainly true now. > > > >My statement above might be misleading. I don't know if the freemasons > >didn't allow Catholics to join or not. I do know that the Catholic Church > >didn't allow its members to join the freemasons. > > > > > >bonnie Ooops. Somehow I missed Bonnie already saying this. What was the reason you remember? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:34:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EYoBp005508 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:34:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DC39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:33:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:33:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EXDx11075 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:33:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6EWRKX022685 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:32:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:33:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1072657237.20031206083313@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <3FD1C7A0.9060206@maynor.net> References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1955710990.20031205084053@WordWrite.com> <3FD10E5C.3020400@maynor.net> <5510248883.20031205225539@WordWrite.com> <3FD1C7A0.9060206@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. >> >> Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. >> >> This is beyond mutant. > You will be happy to know that I can't even remember when I last had > occasion to say the Latin "sic" -- if, in fact, I ever have. It's not > something that makes its way into conversation easily. Whew! I am much relieved. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:36:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EaqBp005534 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:36:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DC45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:35:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:35:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EZGx11439 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:35:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6EYx6X025313 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1804327124.20031206083503@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <200312061257.hB6Cv7x02078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312061257.hB6Cv7x02078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:55:39 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. >> >>Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. >> >>This is beyond mutant. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > I also pronounce "sic" with and [i], and "Cicero" with [k]s to boot - > the remnants of my high school Latin teacher's influence. No "church" > latin for her! Note to self: never talk Latin with Carolyn! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:39:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EcxBp005548 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:39:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DC38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:37:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:37:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EbNx11658 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:37:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6EbM2f016626 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:37:22 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6EbKJC016367; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:37:21 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206063912.00aa8340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:39:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206081544.00b2dba8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:16 AM 12/6/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: > tessnalencz@yahoo.com Who is tessnalencz? Is she going to write back to us? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EfaBp005579 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:41:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DC40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:40:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:39:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Edrx11884 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:39:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6EcxKX027331 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:39:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:39:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <538067394.20031206083942@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >>Are you saying that pronunciation is dependent on spelling? > No - if I had wanted to say that, I would have said that. I was talking > about a rather abrupt change in spelling. The 'rather abrupt' is your impression, not a fact. You haven't researched this to see if local media, as an example, reflect your impression. You're making a grandiose assumption based on an impression. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:42:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EgpBp005611 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:42:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DC61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:41:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:41:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EfFx12095 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:41:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6EfDW1026651 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:41:14 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6EfBWq026634; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:41:11 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206064259.00a4d660@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:43:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:08 PM 12/6/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:41 -0500, bonniev wrote: > >>We have nothing yet but a bit of wind. But here's the technical >>discussion: > >We're right in the thick of it. Snow's coming down steadily without >any let up. Looks like there's 8-9" on the deck. It looks really quiet >out. I'm going to be a good citizen and stay indoors until the snow >eases. Give the road crews time to deal with it. > >I'm glad it's a 1-2 punch. Yesterday's early morning shovelling stint >helped clear the cobwebs, warmed up the back muscles. No shoveling here. How about you, mem? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:44:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EiBBp005622 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:44:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DC48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:42:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:42:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EgYx12241 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:42:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6EgU6X000678 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:42:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:42:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <394044591.20031206084233@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>Wow! We didn't own a house till I was in high school. We seldom went >>on vacations as a family--just to Canada. But we took turns going on >>trips with my dad. > My parents were aged 41 and 42 when I was born. I don't know that they > went on vacations when their first three kids were little. My parents were in their 30's when I was born, so that's a difference. I'm sure my younger sibs don't remember when we didn't own a house. > I read too. There was a public library. The only things around the house > were Modern Romance and Reader's Digest. I know--you've said this before. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:46:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Ek2Bp005664 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:46:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DC60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:44:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:44:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EiPx12476 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:44:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6Ei06X001849 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:44:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:44:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <253505577.20031206084403@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> <1564535758.20031205230124@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> You are probably too young to either remember or understand, Natalie. >>> Apparently the earliest known citation for the spelling /mic/ is 1961 - >>> some of us learned our language long before 1961. >> >>But you claimed that it has only been around for 8 years! a>> >>You guys are giving linguists a bad name. > Please pay attention. I claimed its usage in East Tennessee is 8-10 years > - to the best of my knowledge. What does this have to do with learning your language before 1961, then? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:48:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EmCBp005694 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:48:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DC54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:46:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:46:35 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6EkZx12670 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:46:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB6EkWR6003323 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:46:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3bc07$d75b8c80$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312061253.hB6Crux01802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Knitting Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:47:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Scouts and Camp Fire Girls. I was never going to be eligible for > Junior League .... so perhaps the tuition was not that expensive. > > Bethany What are the requirements for membership in Junior League? What is Junior League anyway? The only thing I know about them is that they put out terrific cookbooks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:55:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EteBp005751 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:55:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DC7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:54:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:54:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Ei4x12409 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:44:04 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6Egs61032245 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:42:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:44:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <538067394.20031206083942@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <538067394.20031206083942@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> No - if I had wanted to say that, I would have said that. I was talking >> about a rather abrupt change in spelling. > >The 'rather abrupt' is your impression, not a fact. You haven't >researched this to see if local media, as an example, reflect your >impression. You're making a grandiose assumption based on an >impression. Actually, it is a conclusion - not an impression - reached on the basis of reading local publications, student papers, graffiti, billboards, posters, etc. daily for many years. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 08:57:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6EvVBp005799 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:57:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DC66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 9:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:55:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Ejtx12595 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:45:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6Eij61032493 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:44:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:45:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <253505577.20031206084403@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051330.hB5DUt205724@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD0EEBB.9090400@maynor.net> <3FD1463E.2010701@maynor.net> <3FD15363.5020100@maynor.net> <1564535758.20031205230124@WordWrite.com> <253505577.20031206084403@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Please pay attention. I claimed its usage in East Tennessee is 8-10 years >> - to the best of my knowledge. > >What does this have to do with learning your language before 1961, >then? See last post. And I am now quite bored with this. Perhaps I shall practice fierce silence. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:18:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FIuBp006161 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:18:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DCC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:17:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:17:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FHKx15579 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:17:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020ADD4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:17:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061517.hB6FHKx15579@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:17:20 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: joining To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:28:04 -0800, Betty wrote: >At 10:46 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:19:42 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >> >--- bonniev wrote: >> >> >I always thought that the Masons didn't have Jewish >> >> members. >> >> >> >> I would have thought not. Catholics were not >> >> allowed to join. >> >> >> >> >> >> bonnie >> > >> >But in the sucky South, black applicants are >> >assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their >> >way through the degrees. How long this had been true, >> >I do not know. But it is certainly true now. >> >>I will consult my local expert. >> >>clo > >I have a memory that it was the church that did not allow them to join. The >masons weren't keeping them out. However, my memory often fails me. It >seemed that my church was opposed to the "secretive" parts of these >organizations. > >Betty Yes, we've all agreed on that piece... but I think it's an open question whether they would have been allowed to join had they chosen to. The election process is by secret ballot - little balls dropped into a screened box - and one black ball is enough to block an applicant from entry. Even without official rules excluding , they tended to be slow to let in members who weren't . And of course, with secret ballot the reason doesn't have to be defended or even articulated. I've checked, by the bye, w/ my expert source; Dad says that "in our jurisdiction" eg NYState and perhaps a regional group above the state, there have never been formal discriminatory rules. Any person of any religion is specifically eligible etc. He thinks that in some Southern Grand (state level) lodges there have been formal restrictions before the '70s. He also indicated he doesn't know of any reason why being Jewish would have kept someone out of a lodge (which iirc was the original question). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:21:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FLOBp006175 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:21:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DCD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:19:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:19:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6F9mx14833 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:09:48 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6F8a61003739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:08:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:09:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <000401c3bc07$d75b8c80$dbcadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <200312061253.hB6Crux01802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <000401c3bc07$d75b8c80$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >What are the requirements for membership >in Junior League? What is Junior League >anyway? The only thing I know about them >is that they put out terrific cookbooks. Based on my experience in Knoxville, rich white parents, preferably parents who belong to Cherokee Country Club. It appears to be a female junior country club - for young women who "come out" (in the old sense of that term). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FLiBp006181 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:21:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DCBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FK8x15996 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020ADDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061520.hB6FK8x15996@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:30:20 -0800, Betty wrote: >At 10:47 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:06 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> >> >> > I would have thought not. Catholics were not >> >> > allowed to join. >> >> > bonnie >> >> >> >>But in the sucky South, black applicants are >> >>assiduously cultivated, and aggressively work their >> >>way through the degrees. How long this had been true, >> >>I do not know. But it is certainly true now. >> > >> >My statement above might be misleading. I don't know if the freemasons >> >didn't allow Catholics to join or not. I do know that the Catholic Church >> >didn't allow its members to join the freemasons. >> > >> > >> >bonnie > >Ooops. Somehow I missed Bonnie already saying this. What was the reason you >remember? > >Betty The explanation given to me as a child was that the vows taken during initiation specifically exclude disclosing anything that takes place in a lodge meeting to any nonmember; and that this interferes with the confessional relationship between priest and parishioner. Presumably the vows of KoC were adjusted to permit this interaction. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:22:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FMYBp006187 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:22:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DCC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FKvx16137 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020ADDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061520.hB6FKvx16137@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:20:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:03 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:55:39 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>>On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>> And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. >>> >>>Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. >>> >>>This is beyond mutant. >>> >>>Karen, >>>practicing fierce optimism > >> I also pronounce "sic" with and [i], and "Cicero" with [k]s to boot - >> the remnants of my high school Latin teacher's influence. No "church" >> latin for her! > >Note to self: never talk Latin with Carolyn! > You can't imagine how this saddens me! clo >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:23:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FN1Bp006192 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:23:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DCD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FLOx16228 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FLNW1021108 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:21:23 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FLMWq021096 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:21:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206072257.00a56600@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:23:52 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Boo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are you having a birthday week? Two more days to celebrate. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:24:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FOUBp006205 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:24:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DCD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:22:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:22:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FMrx16454 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:22:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020AE19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:22:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061522.hB6FMrx16454@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:22:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 06:43:41 -0800, Betty wrote: >At 02:08 PM 12/6/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:16:41 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> >>>We have nothing yet but a bit of wind. But here's the technical >>>discussion: >> >>We're right in the thick of it. Snow's coming down steadily without >>any let up. Looks like there's 8-9" on the deck. It looks really quiet >>out. I'm going to be a good citizen and stay indoors until the snow >>eases. Give the road crews time to deal with it. >> >>I'm glad it's a 1-2 punch. Yesterday's early morning shovelling stint >>helped clear the cobwebs, warmed up the back muscles. > >No shoveling here. How about you, mem? > >Betty We are 2-3" now, and when V comes back from the office I feel certain we'll be breaking out the snowblower. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:27:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FR5Bp006229 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:27:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DCEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:29 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FPTx16836 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020ADED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061525.hB6FPTx16836@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Boo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:23:52 -0800, Betty wrote: >Are you having a birthday week? Two more days to celebrate. Where is this bday list thing? Are Lynn and I on it? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:27:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FRGBp006233 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:27:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DCD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:39 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FPdx16866 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6FPbGn021792 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206102327.00b56230@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:25:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206062931.00a4cd00@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <200312060347.hB63lmx24425@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ooops. Somehow I missed Bonnie already saying this. What was the reason you remember? >Betty I don't really remember. But if the novel, Angels and Demons, is mostly true, which I think it is, then the reason would be that people very much opposed to the Catholic Church historically infiltrated the freemasons and used them to promote an anti-Catholic agenda. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:27:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FRiBp006240 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:27:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DCEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:26:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe30.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FQ7x16939 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:26:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:26:01 -0800 Received: from 199.174.2.48 by law9-oe30.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:26:01 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [199.174.2.48] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] X-Sender: amyb_short@hotmail.com From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Re: Knitting Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:26:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2003 15:26:01.0915 (UTC) FILETIME=[41AFE8B0:01C3BC0D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Absolutely. My sister and I had totally different parents. >Betty And my own parents as Carl's grandparents are utterly unrecognizable to me .. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:30:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FU1Bp006278 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:30:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DCD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FSOx17208 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FSNW1025702 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:28:23 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FSMWq025682; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:28:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206073029.00aa44c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:30:52 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <200312061522.hB6FMrx16454@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:22 AM 12/6/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >We are 2-3" now, and when V comes back from the office I feel certain we'll >be breaking out the snowblower. > >clo Only the leaves are on my lawn. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:30:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FUaBp006286 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:30:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DCD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FSxx17259 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:59 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6FSvGn022284 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:28:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206102614.00bbf0a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:29:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206063912.00aa8340@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206081544.00b2dba8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Who is tessnalencz? Is she going to write back to us? She is my good friend Loretta from Milwaukee. I don't think she would like words-l. She's an ex-nun like me. She was Sister Jeremy to my Sister Josette. She works putting music notes on paper for some music publishing outfit in Milwaukee. She has a second job as a church organist but doesn't believe in God. The church isn't even a Catholic church. I sent her half of the mittens I knitted with Alyce's yarn to hang on the mitten tree at the church where she plays organ. She is Polish. She never married or had kids. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:32:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FWOBp006326 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:32:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DCEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:30:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FUlx17424 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:30:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FUkeO006190 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:30:46 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FUia2006160; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:30:45 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206073107.00a30900@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:33:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Boo In-Reply-To: <200312061525.hB6FPTx16836@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:25 AM 12/6/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:23:52 -0800, Betty wrote: > > >Are you having a birthday week? Two more days to celebrate. > >Where is this bday list thing? Are Lynn and I on it? > >clo It's on the web page. I just happened to glance at Sly's calendar that I kept from 1998. Have the hog include you. Betty HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:34:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FYhBp006348 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:34:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DCDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:06 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FX6x17606 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:06 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6FX4Gn022800 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206102939.00bb6598@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:33:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <394044591.20031206084233@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > My parents were aged 41 and 42 when I was born. I don't know that they > > went on vacations when their first three kids were little. > >My parents were in their 30's when I was born, so that's a difference. >I'm sure my younger sibs don't remember when we didn't own a house. >Karen, practicing fierce optimism Also, my grandparents gave my parents the land on which they had our house built, some years before I was born, I think. My grandparents on both sides owned dairy farms. My mother's parents gave a half acre of land on three corners of their farm to three of their children. All of that land has now been built up with homes and is probably part of the city of Sheboygan. When I was growing up much of it was still fields, but no longer owned by my grandparents. That grandfather died before I was born and that grandmother died when I was three. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:35:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FZ1Bp006352 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:35:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DCF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FXJx17629 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:33:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FXH2f020646 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:33:18 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6FXGJC020628; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:33:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206073445.00aaf4e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 07:35:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:26 AM 12/6/2003 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > >Absolutely. My sister and I had totally different parents. > > >Betty > >And my own parents as Carl's grandparents are utterly unrecognizable to me >.. > >AS You broke them in for Carl! I think my older 8 siblings wore my parents down so things were easier for me. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:40:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FeiBp006437 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:40:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DD10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:39:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:39:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Fd7x18196 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:39:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6Fd2rm000663 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:39:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:39:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1196986911.20031206093905@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206102939.00bb6598@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205211928.027635c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031206082416.00b5ce28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031206102939.00bb6598@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, bonniev wrote: > My grandparents on both sides owned dairy farms. My paternal grandfather was a dairy farmer in Michigan for a while--my Dad grew up on the farm. They must have sold it at some point, because they were living in the city when I knew them. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 09:43:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6FhvBp006467 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:43:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DD14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:42:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:42:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6FgKx18580 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:42:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6FfTKX014930 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:41:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:42:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1829345483.20031206094215@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <200312061520.hB6FKvx16137@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312061520.hB6FKvx16137@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:03 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:55:39 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>>On Friday, December 05, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>>> And you pronounce it with [I]? I pronounce it with [i]. >>>> >>>>Ohhhh GRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. >>>> >>>>This is beyond mutant. >>>> >>>>Karen, >>>>practicing fierce optimism >> >>> I also pronounce "sic" with and [i], and "Cicero" with [k]s to boot - >>> the remnants of my high school Latin teacher's influence. No "church" >>> latin for her! >> >>Note to self: never talk Latin with Carolyn! >> > You can't imagine how this saddens me! > clo Oh, I think I have a good idea. So much of our conversations were in Latin that this is really going to cramp our style! I sincerely apologize for my middle class value judgements. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 10:27:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6GQxBp007082 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:26:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DD88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:25:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:25:22 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6GPMx23095 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:25:22 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB6GPKkF016331 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:25:20 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB6GPK8M016329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:25:20 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:25:19 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: joining Message-ID: <20031206162519.GA16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312061517.hB6FHKx15579@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312061517.hB6FHKx15579@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = before the '70s. He also indicated he doesn't know of any reason why = being Jewish would have kept someone out of a lodge (which iirc was = the original question). = = clo Well, that was my question. I don't know where I got the idea from. But my next question is how likely is it that my grandfather was a Mason and no one in the family ever mentioned it. I can't imagine that pendant belonged to someone else. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 10:27:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6GRsBp007087 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:27:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020AEB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:26:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:26:17 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6GQGx23265 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:26:16 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB6GQFkF016341 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:26:15 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB6GQFQL016339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:26:15 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:26:14 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: <20031206162614.GB16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031203213035.GA8741@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, steph wrote: = > = A potato po' boy (with gravy), WHOA NELLY! = > See, now you are getting complicated. = = Gravy is complicated? = Only if you're a vegetarian. Plus, have those potatoes been fried? = > = half french fries, half sucking pig. = > and even more complicated. = = O.K., you've got me here; roast baby pig = is not exactly a pantry staple. = = -- = Richard, Tony C.'s on cracklins, heart attack city From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 10:29:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6GTuBp007104 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:29:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DD82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6GSIx23534 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:28:18 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB6GSHkF016351 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:28:17 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB6GSHrJ016349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:28:17 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:28:17 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting Message-ID: <20031206162817.GC16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031205212440.GA14220@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = steph: = > And does this explain why we got taken = > to the Medinah Temple to see the circus more often than the = > Ringling Bros and Barnum & Baily? = = Yow! Y'mean there was a circus *other* than = the Shriners at Medinah Temple? = :-) = Coincidentally, that is also where my high = school graduation was held. = = -- = Richard, grandson of a Mason and this would possibly mean that our grandfathers knew or knew of each other. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 10:57:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Gv9Bp007506 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:57:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020AF0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:55:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:55:32 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6GtWx26284 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:55:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DDF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:55:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312061655.hB6GtWx26284@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:55:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Boo To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:33:14 -0800, Betty wrote: >At 10:25 AM 12/6/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 07:23:52 -0800, Betty wrote: >> >> >Are you having a birthday week? Two more days to celebrate. >> >>Where is this bday list thing? Are Lynn and I on it? >> >>clo > >It's on the web page. I just happened to glance at Sly's calendar that I >kept from 1998. Have the hog include you. > >Betty > >HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a >pig. Now I need to work out who the chicken is. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 11:23:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6HNWBp007853 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:23:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DE43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:21:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:21:54 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6HLsx29135 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:21:54 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPHH8T00.5DH for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:14:53 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:14:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: two feet of snow X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > No shoveling here. > Betty Pretty light in the GMA as well. I think the 70F temperature may have something to do with it... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 11:42:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6HgGBp008128 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:42:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DE7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:40:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:40:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Hedx30906 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:40:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Heb2f010304 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:40:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6HeaJC010272; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:40:37 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206093830.00a2be40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:43:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:14 AM 12/6/2003 -0700, John Williams wrote: > > No shoveling here. > > Betty > >Pretty light in the GMA as well. I think the 70F temperature may have >something to do with it... Life is hard. Lorinda, Kevin, and Ryan are all going to fly to the Insite Bowl Christmas Day. They put together a package for the three of them much cheaper than what was being offered by university. Go, Bears! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 11:48:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6HmiBp008259 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:48:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020AFAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:47:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:47:06 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Hl5x31666 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:47:06 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:49:24 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-120-33.nb.no [158.39.120.33]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2P9D4; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:49:10 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:46:47 +0100 Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In the central part of Norway - from some hundred miles south of the Polar circle to somewhere north of it we had weather on Thursday. A plane was hit by lightening and managed a crash landing where all survived in Bodø. This of course meant that the airport in Bodø closed down. The storm was also strong enough so that the daily ship (Hurtigruta) could not enter the harbour in Bodø. Further south, in Mo i Rana where I was at least one roof blew off a building. On Friday when I was supposed to fly south from Rana, there were no planes arriving: partly because the airport in Rana was closed at times and mainly because the airport in Bodø (from where the planes would be coming) was closed because of storm and a heavy snowfall. The snow fell pretty heavu in Rana as well. I noticed that already on Thursday they had set out the marking poles to show where the road is when snow is removed. After four hours at the airport yesterday it was clear for everyone that there would be no planes - at least n o planes working with connections from Trondheim to Oslo. So we changed over to a sleeping cabin in the train. Good idea - it turned out that at the same time a bus going on the same road we would avce been taking if we had tried to go south by bus, was blown off the road. So this morning at half past six I goty up and brushed my teeth and then we stopped at the Trondheim airport (which is a train stop before Trondheim for trains coming from the North). We got on a plane from Trondheim to Oslo, no problem. Instead the storm has reappeared in the South so that the trains between Trondheim and Oslo - amon many others - have been cancelled all day. But in Oslo we had a beautiful cold but sunny winter's day ... Now I will try to treat the cold I got from the sleet I walked through in Rana last Wednesday with a lot of red wine and try to get some sleep. Weather! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 12:04:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6I4pBp008468 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:04:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DECB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:03:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:03:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6I3Dx00762 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:03:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6I3AeO014173 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:03:12 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6I39a2014159; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:03:10 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206100512.00ab3e10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:05:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:46 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >Now I will try to treat the cold I got from the sleet I walked through in >Rana last Wednesday with a lot of red wine and try to get some sleep. Weather! > >Espen Wow! You know weather. Glad you are safe. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 12:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6I9gBp008579 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:09:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DEE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:08:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:08:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6I84x01197 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:08:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6I7xrm028623 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:08:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:08:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > Now I will try to treat the cold I got from the sleet I walked > through in Rana last Wednesday with a lot of red wine and try to get > some sleep. Weather! Thanks for reminding me why I prefer warmer climes! I hope you feel better, Espen. It's only a short while to the solstice, and then the days will start getting longer again. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 13:07:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6J7GBp009348 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:07:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DF5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:05:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:05:38 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6J5cx06344 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:05:38 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6J504O018042 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:04:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That same storm system left nothing here. Not even slippery roads (which is good because I don't have any weight in the bed of my pickup yet). I'm feeling as peckish as Natalie about the short days. Ana and I drive to school at dawn and arrive home at dusk. We enjoy the sunrises and sunsets together, but it is dreary to have no "daytime" outside of school. We have a Christmas party to go to tonight. We have a hotel room where the party will be held, and Ana is sleeping over Kelsey's house, so she'll just go to Sunday School with Kelsey and we'll get her from Church tomorrow. I managed to find myself an outfit to wear last night fairly easily. I think working in a high school has paid off in giving me a better understanding of clothing trends. I even found these cellulite-smoothing undies things that will supposedly hold my butt in. We'll see. In the meantime, I think I'll have another chocolate-covered cherry. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 13:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6JPNBp009621 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:25:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DF9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:23:45 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6JNix07808 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:23:45 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6JNhm6019755 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:23:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD22C6D.80901@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:22:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: IMFTATL: Who is Paul Bowles? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who the heck is Paul Bowles and why should I care about him? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 13:30:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6JTxBp009695 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:29:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DFAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:28:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:28:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6JSLx08261 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:28:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6JSG6X005022 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:28:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:28:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <926098422.20031206132819@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Who is Paul Bowles? In-Reply-To: <3FD22C6D.80901@swbell.net> References: <3FD22C6D.80901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Who the heck is Paul Bowles and why should I care about him? http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/People/PaulBowles.html Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 13:31:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6JVpBp009732 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:31:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DF98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:30:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:30:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6JUDx08383 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:30:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6JTSKX003035 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:29:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:30:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <213763500.20031206133012@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Who is Paul Bowles? In-Reply-To: <3FD22C6D.80901@swbell.net> References: <3FD22C6D.80901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Who the heck is Paul Bowles and why should I care about him? Here's a special exhibit. http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/spec/exhibits/bowles/ I had no idea who he is and don't really care about him. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 13:47:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6JlgBp009894 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:47:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DFD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:46:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:46:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Jk3x09559 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:46:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Jk2W1021716 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:46:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Jk0Wq021670; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:46:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:48:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:04 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >my butt in. We'll see. In the meantime, I think I'll have >another chocolate-covered cherry. My favorite Christmas candy. Oh, I thought I would mention that Larry is eating his lunch over the sink. He said that he has done it ever since he could reach the sink. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 13:53:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6JrlBp009929 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:53:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DFE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:52:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:52:09 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Jg8x09289 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:42:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6Jew61030412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:40:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:42:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >I'm feeling as peckish as Natalie about the short days. Ana The only definition I know for peckish is hungry. What did I miss? Or do you mean hungry? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBp010310 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DFED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:55:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:55:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6JtNx10227 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:55:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6JtHrm015276 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:55:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:55:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1878456790.20031206135520@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >>I'm feeling as peckish as Natalie about the short days. Ana > The only definition I know for peckish is hungry. What did I miss? That she's hungry for light. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBp010312 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6DFE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:58:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:58:23 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6JwMx10394 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:58:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6JwLGR018965 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:58:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD2348A.10805@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:56:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>I'm feeling as peckish as Natalie about the short days. Ana >> > > The only definition I know for peckish is hungry. What did I miss? Or do > you mean hungry? Nope. Did you mean breaches? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBp010314 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6DFDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:01:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:01:08 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6K18x10600 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:01:08 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6K15GR022158 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:01:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD2352F.3030300@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:59:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Who is Paul Bowles? References: <3FD22C6D.80901@swbell.net> <213763500.20031206133012@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Who the heck is Paul Bowles and why should I care about him? >> > > Here's a special exhibit. http://www.lib.udel.edu/ud/spec/exhibits/bowles/ > > I had no idea who he is and don't really care about him. OK. Name sounded vaguely familiar, but there was a Paul Bowles Cycle Shop near where I grew up. I think the person threatening the law suit is either a garden variety idiot or suffers from mental instability. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBq010311 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E00E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:08:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:08:58 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6K8wx11130 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:08:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6K8uGR003036 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD23706.5030900@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:07:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 01:04 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> my butt in. We'll see. In the meantime, I think I'll have >> another chocolate-covered cherry. > > > My favorite Christmas candy. You have outstanding taste. > Oh, I thought I would mention that Larry is eating his lunch over the > sink. He said that he has done it ever since he could reach the sink. Oh dear. How do stand it? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBq010313 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E059@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:20:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:20:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6KKpx12027 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:20:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6KKoeO029718 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:20:50 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6KKka2029614; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:20:46 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:23:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <3FD23706.5030900@swbell.net> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:07 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>At 01:04 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>>my butt in. We'll see. In the meantime, I think I'll have >>>another chocolate-covered cherry. >> >> >>My favorite Christmas candy. > > > You have outstanding taste. > > >>Oh, I thought I would mention that Larry is eating his lunch over the >>sink. He said that he has done it ever since he could reach the sink. > > > Oh dear. How do stand it? Less cleaning up after him, I suppose. He said he probably learned it in Europe from the Dutch who have no manners. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBq010312 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E048@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:22:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:22:07 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6KM7x12158 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:22:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6KLMKX009042 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:21:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:22:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1956440050.20031206142207@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Betty wrote: > Karen, we are cleaning out the bookshelves . Do you want this book > returned that you gave Larry? (Teach yourself more Web Publishing with > HTML in a week.) Nope. Boy, that was a long time ago! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBp010311 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DFEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:56:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:56:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Jujx10296 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:56:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6Ju0KX020947 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:56:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:56:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1767737099.20031206135647@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >>I'm feeling as peckish as Natalie about the short days. Ana > The only definition I know for peckish is hungry. What did I miss? Or do > you mean hungry? AHD has "Ill-tempered; irritable" as the first definition, btw. Sorry, I don't see an East Tennessee dictionary on the web. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBp010313 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6DFF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:59:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:59:00 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB6Jx0x10434 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:59:00 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:58:54 PST Message-ID: <20031206195854.97167.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:58:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312061257.hB6Cv7x02078@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I also pronounce "sic" with and [i], and "Cicero" > with [k]s to boot - With k's? This is completely new to me. It sounds sort of "cute", though. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KPLBq010310 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E048@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:18:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6KI4x11862 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:18:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6KI32f015268 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:18:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6KHwJC015184; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:17:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:20:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <1767737099.20031206135647@WordWrite.com> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:56 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>I'm feeling as peckish as Natalie about the short days. Ana > > > The only definition I know for peckish is hungry. What did I miss? Or do > > you mean hungry? > >AHD has "Ill-tempered; irritable" as the first definition, btw. > >Sorry, I don't see an East Tennessee dictionary on the web. LOL. Karen, we are cleaning out the bookshelves . Do you want this book returned that you gave Larry? (Teach yourself more Web Publishing with HTML in a week.) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:32:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KWEBp010427 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:32:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E068@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:30:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:30:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f55.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6KUZx12709 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:30:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:30:29 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.95 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:30:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.95] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: two feet of snow Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:30:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2003 20:30:29.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA3A2FE0:01C3BC37] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > No shoveling here. > > Betty >Pretty light in the GMA as well. I think the 70F temperature may have >something to do with it... >JMW :-) Sun's out now. The storm's done here and should be headed towards Marie, Adam and Maine. It's pretty and snowy and white outside. My driveway's clean - I'm getting good at this stuff. _________________________________________________________________ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KfcBp010556 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:41:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E099@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:40:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:40:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6KU0x12686 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:30:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6KSo61007209 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:28:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:30:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Betty wrote: >LOL. Bethany practicing fierce silence From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:49:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KniBp010652 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E0B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 353158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Km5x14664 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Km3eO023052 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:48:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Km0a2022999; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 12:48:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:50:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <1956440050.20031206142207@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:22 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Betty wrote: > > Karen, we are cleaning out the bookshelves . Do you want this book > > returned that you gave Larry? (Teach yourself more Web Publishing with > > HTML in a week.) > >Nope. Boy, that was a long time ago! He has decided to keep it so it went back on the bookshelf. Do you dust books or vacuum? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KoMBp010656 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:50:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E09E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 353166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Kmhx14685 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6KmdGp061390; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206154154.00b5d2f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:48:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 PM 12/6/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >:-) Sun's out now. The storm's done here and should be headed >towards Marie, Adam and Maine. It's up here, but right now, according to the radar, MDI is in a trough between two arms of the storm. Fairly windy (28 mph, 37kph) and cool (28F, -2C)--about the warmest it's been today. A few flurries earlier. Two of the people in our neighborhood have been testing their snowblowers this afternoon. One of them sounds like a nukular (sic) mic with a tic. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 14:56:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6KuuBp010727 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:56:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E0AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 353312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6KtHx15143 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6KtC6X008680 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:55:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:55:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <57526131.20031206145512@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 02:22 PM 12/6/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Betty wrote: >> > Karen, we are cleaning out the bookshelves . Do you want this book >> > returned that you gave Larry? (Teach yourself more Web Publishing with >> > HTML in a week.) >> >>Nope. Boy, that was a long time ago! > He has decided to keep it so it went back on the bookshelf. Do you dust > books or vacuum? Yes, of course. I vacuum more often than I dust books, though. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LHABp010970 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:17:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E10D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:15:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:15:25 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LFOx17124 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:15:24 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB6LFIGn063731 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:15:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206161358.00bc2a88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:15:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >:-) Sun's out now. The storm's done here and should be headed >towards Marie, Adam and Maine. It's pretty and snowy and white >outside. My driveway's clean - I'm getting good at this stuff. That sounds wonderful Rashmi. I wish we were at that stage here. All we have is wind and dread. The headline in the Portland paper this morning was "A Wicked Thing This Way Comes", printed over a picture of the snow in Maryland. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:23:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LNTBp011085 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:23:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:21:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:21:50 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LLnx17568 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:21:49 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6LLdhc026258 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:21:47 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:22:29 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: two feet of snow Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FD1BBF5.28438.508F53@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.2.2.20031206064259.00a4d660@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6 Dec 2003 at 6:43, Betty wrote: > No shoveling here. How about you, mem? Actually, I think I'm going to have to get out and shovel fallen breadfruit off the roof of the carport this afternoon. A couple of Tongan and Samoan fellows usually come around and pick these things before they become too big a nuisance. Not so this season. They're a mess. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:25:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LPkBp011120 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:25:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E11C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:24:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:24:07 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB6LO7x17748 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:24:07 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:24:02 PST Message-ID: <20031206212402.61132.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:24:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3bc07$d75b8c80$dbcadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > What are the requirements for membership > in Junior League? What is Junior League > anyway? The only thing I know about them > is that they put out terrific cookbooks. First and foremost, you have to believe you are a snob with good reason to be one. I think it's for debs of 21 and older. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:32:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LWvBp011248 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:32:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020B260@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:31:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:31:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LVIx18415 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:31:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6LVGW1013642 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:31:16 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6LVEWq013633; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:31:15 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206133311.00acb930@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:33:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <3FD1BBF5.28438.508F53@localhost> References: <4.2.2.20031206064259.00a4d660@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:22 AM 12/6/2003 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >On 6 Dec 2003 at 6:43, Betty wrote: > > > No shoveling here. How about you, mem? > >Actually, I think I'm going to have to get out and shovel fallen >breadfruit off the >roof of the carport this afternoon. A couple of Tongan and Samoan fellows >usually come around and pick these things before they become too big a >nuisance. Not so this season. They're a mess. The things you must tolerate to live on your island. :-) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:37:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LbRBp011312 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:37:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E141@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:35:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:35:48 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LZmx18730 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:35:48 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6LZlrW027794 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:35:47 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB6LZkiN032123 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: <00af01c3bc40$e9d14240$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: 13" and climbing... Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:35:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It started to snow heavily again about an hour ago... 'inch and hour stuff. My next Ford has a plow on it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:39:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Ld1Bp011352 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:39:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E128@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:37:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:37:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LbLx18856 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:37:21 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6LbK2f019645 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:37:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6LbIJC019471; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:37:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206133930.00adc730@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:39:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: 13" and climbing... In-Reply-To: <00af01c3bc40$e9d14240$677a8083@awild4dj8f> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:35 PM 12/6/2003 -0500, Alan Wild wrote: >It started to snow heavily again about an hour ago... 'inch and hour stuff. >My next Ford has a plow on it. Are you ready to hit the slopes? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:39:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Ld9Bp011356 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:39:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:37:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:37:30 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LbTx18872 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:37:29 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB6LbSkF016930 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:37:28 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB6LbRd8016928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:37:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:37:27 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow Message-ID: <20031206213727.GA16890@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Less cleaning up after him, I suppose. He said he probably learned it in = Europe from the Dutch who have no manners. = = Betty yeah, and you know what else? they don't rinse their dishes after they wash them. isn't that weird? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:41:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LfmBp011374 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:41:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E141@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Le8x19143 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:40:08 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB6Le7kF016950 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:40:07 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB6Le6o1016948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:40:06 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:40:06 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow Message-ID: <20031206214006.GB16890@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = He has decided to keep it so it went back on the bookshelf. Do you dust = books or vacuum? = = Betty Mostly, I try to put doors on bookcases. Since usually by the time we get around to it, vacuuming would not be sufficient, we dust. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:44:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LijBp011409 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:44:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020B284@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:43:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:43:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Lh6x19460 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:43:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Lh4W1022383 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:43:05 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6Lh3Wq022363; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:43:04 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206134505.00addaa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:45:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <20031206213727.GA16890@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:37 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >= >= Less cleaning up after him, I suppose. He said he probably learned it in >= Europe from the Dutch who have no manners. >= >= Betty > >yeah, and you know what else? they don't rinse their dishes >after they wash them. isn't that weird? Really? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:46:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6Lk9Bp011437 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:46:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E156@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:44:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:44:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LiUx19603 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:44:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6LiS2f028309 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:44:29 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6LiQJC028257; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 13:44:26 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206134546.00ad1ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:46:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <20031206214006.GB16890@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:40 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >= >= He has decided to keep it so it went back on the bookshelf. Do you dust >= books or vacuum? >= >= Betty > >Mostly, I try to put doors on bookcases. Since usually by the >time we get around to it, vacuuming would not be sufficient, we >dust. My old books don't smell that great. I feel like emptying these shelves. Maybe I should have cleaned them a few years back. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 15:48:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6LmTBp011467 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:48:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:46:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:46:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Lkox19891 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:46:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB6Lkk6X018595 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:46:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:46:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15869199.20031206154649@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206134546.00ad1ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <3FD2282D.8010901@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031206121809.00a2ac40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206124957.00a2e570@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206134546.00ad1ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Betty wrote: > My old books don't smell that great. I feel like emptying these > shelves. Maybe I should have cleaned them a few years back. LOL. I recognize that feeling. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:00:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6M05Bp011608 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:00:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E189@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:58:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 355543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:58:25 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6LwPx21354 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:58:25 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6LwPrW028133 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:58:25 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB6LwKiN002176 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: <00d301c3bc44$11bbe370$677a8083@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031206133930.00adc730@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: 13" and climbing... Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:58:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" > At 04:35 PM 12/6/2003 -0500, Alan Wild wrote: > >It started to snow heavily again about an hour ago... 'inch and hour stuff. > >My next Ford has a plow on it. > > Are you ready to hit the slopes? > > Betty Hi Betty... 'went to Yawgoo for an hour or so thisaft'... the snow was heavy and slow, visibility poor (goggling), and the open trails crowded and few... So I went and had a few double neat Cuervos on the patio overlooking the training hill. I teach Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, and a full Saturday this season. They up'd the ante for hill-perks. I'm there ;-) Tell Larry I says Hej! Warmth... 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:02:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6M2nBp011654 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:02:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E1D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:01:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:01:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6M19x21829 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:01:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPHU7502.OE4 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:54:41 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <73f25873ad08.73ad0873f258@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:54:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Knitting X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > What is Junior League > > anyway? The only thing I know about them > > is that they put out terrific cookbooks. That, and they never attend orgies. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:03:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6M3jBp011682 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:03:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E1E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:02:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:02:06 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6M26x22002 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:02:06 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6M20Ob6283322 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:02:00 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:02:00 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <3FD148ED.3040106@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B778F2@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> <000601c3bb7c$7084dc40$dbcadece@0018079268> <3FD148ED.3040106@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Either fresh or canned? Asparagus in any form means, for me, no. jeebus, that could be a safeword: ASPARAGUS! Drop me in me tracks, it would. -- Richard, not into that From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:06:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6M6tBp011717 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:06:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E201@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:05:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:05:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6M5Fx22217 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:05:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6M5EW1007868 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:05:14 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB6M5BWq007836; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:05:12 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031206140557.00adc4d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:07:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: 13" and climbing... In-Reply-To: <00d301c3bc44$11bbe370$677a8083@awild4dj8f> References: <4.2.2.20031206133930.00adc730@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Hi Betty... 'went to Yawgoo for an hour or so thisaft'... the snow was >heavy and slow, visibility poor (goggling), and the open trails crowded and >few... So I went and had a few double neat Cuervos on the patio overlooking >the training hill. I teach Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, and a full >Saturday this season. They up'd the ante for hill-perks. I'm there ;-) > >Tell Larry I says Hej! > >Warmth... 'Alan Back atcha. We're on our way to watch the women's BB game and do some shopping in Berkeley. I wish we had the Whole Food and/or Food Bowl in Pinole. Even Andronico's would help. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:09:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6M9EBp011769 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:09:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E204@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:07:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:07:35 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6M7Zx22393 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:07:35 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6M7TOb3121370 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:07:29 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:07:29 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Two things In-Reply-To: <20031206022844.35185.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031206022844.35185.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > It's very bad for people that have gout. Just > tell your hosts/hostesses you're gouty. ...as I hammer down their booze? I think I'd blow my cover. -- B. Franklin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:16:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6MGbBp011866 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:16:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E20D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:14:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:14:57 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6MEvx22897 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:14:57 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6MEpOb6422742 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:14:52 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:14:51 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! In-Reply-To: <20031206162614.GB16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <39c40b39e5de.39e5de39c40b@optonline.net> <20031203193707.GA8472@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031203213035.GA8741@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031206162614.GB16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > = Gravy is complicated? > Only if you're a vegetarian. Oops. I forgot. F'give, s.v.p. >Plus, have those potatoes been fried? Yes, in my dreams they're fried in lard, but the JazzFest potato po' boys that I'm talking about are fried in peanut oil (I've seen the empty containers behind the stands). So, come over for Jazzfest and I'll buy a round of gravy-less p.p.b.s -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:23:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6MNvBp011976 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:23:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E215@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:22:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 356770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:22:18 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6MMIx23383 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:22:18 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6MMCOb9019394 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:22:12 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:22:12 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031206162817.GC16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <200312051918.hB5JIEj11416@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031205212440.GA14220@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031206162817.GC16315@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > = Richard, grandson of a Mason > and this would possibly mean that our grandfathers knew or knew > of each other. I hope we both inherited the secret handshake so we'll recognize each other if we meet. -- Richard, who s t3h intraweb From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 16:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB6MrnBp012460 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:53:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E25C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:52:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 357575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:52:09 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB6Mq9x25672 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 17:52:09 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031206225200016001h9l1e>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:52:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206144508.03c978c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:54:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206154154.00b5d2f8@pop.gwi.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cwv writes, >nukular (sic) mic with a tic. I had thrown away this link, but maybe I'll post it anyway: Mike, Dammit (sic) http://home.comcast.net/~sambayer/music/whymike.html Wherein a linguistics PhD argues that "mic" sux. One his correspondents makes the point that the abbreviation probably happened with folks who make and use audio gear, who end up with "Mic/Line" labels on panels. Also, by the by, I just realized I know an "ic" word with an interesting pronunciation. DIC Entertainment produces children's cartoons, and the name is pronounced "deek." Twenty-five million children watch DIC toons each week that end with the DIC logo and a child's voice saying "deek!" DIC was founded in 1971 in Paris, if that tells you anything about how the name came to be. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 18:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB703EBp013417 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:03:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E2EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:01:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 359434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:01:34 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB701Xx31337 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:01:33 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031207000128016002ubp9e> (Authid: adamh1); Sun, 7 Dec 2003 00:01:28 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: two feet of snow Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > :-) Sun's out now. The storm's done here and should be headed > towards Marie, Adam and Maine. It's pretty and snowy and white > outside. My driveway's clean - I'm getting good at this stuff. I think we have between 6 and 8 inches now. It's supposed to come down heavily tonight, but I think overall we'll get less than they thought. Sometimes the Connecticut River valley has a weird effect on storms. Whatever, I ain't leaving the house. Today I vacuumed the chateau, and polished the silver set along with some of my grandparents' silver napkin rings I found in a bag in my closet. I had an underwhelming tuna steak for dinner. Ho hum, at least it's a change from salmon. I cooked it on the Foreman grill and made a little sauce for it out of mustard and soy sauce. With it I had green beans with slivered almonds. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 19:28:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB71SPBp014555 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:28:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E379@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:26:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:26:44 -0500 Received: from myrtle.its.msstate.edu (root@myrtle.its.msstate.edu [130.18.2.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB71Gix04913 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:16:44 -0500 Received: from myrtle.its.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by myrtle.its.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/myrtle_1.3) with ESMTP; id hB71GgFW006617 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:16:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from www@localhost) by myrtle.its.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hB71GfFb006605 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:16:41 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: myrtle.its.msstate.edu: www set sender to maynor@ra.msstate.edu using -f To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Neat Message-ID: <1070759801.3fd27f79d2c9a@webmail.msstate.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:16:41 -0600 (CST) From: maynor@ra.msstate.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.7 X-Originating-IP: 12.153.199.85 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just stumbled upon a computer in the motel lobby. Took a picture today of my old teacher sitting in a police car. Hope it turns out. Before that the camera had been hit hard by flying parade candy and had immediately turned itself off and said "charge batteries." More tomorrow. Poor Spencer. All alone tonight. -- Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:19:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72JlBp015241 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:19:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E3C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:06 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72I5x08924 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:06 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB72I2At048153; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206211206.00b67fa8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:18:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:01 PM 12/6/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >I had an underwhelming tuna steak for dinner. It has begun to snow in earnest here; they have reduced the forecast amount to about 15 inches---apparently, it may warm enough tomorrow to begin raining. We were to meet our friends from the Hearthside tonight for dinner. The first place was booked for a party; the second place, when we showed up, was also booked for a party. So after a quick return home over rather greasy streets, we settled on a third place. Good calamari, absolutely great ahi tuna, flash-seared. Good conversation, and Bonnie got to have her favorite dessert, which she must describe. A couple of inches now, still a lot of wind. The village streets were very pretty with the yellowish street lamps shining through the falling/blowing snow. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:20:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72K9Bp015245 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:20:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020B574@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72ISx08939 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020B5A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070218.hB72ISx08939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:18:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:58:54 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> I also pronounce "sic" with and [i], and "Cicero" >> with [k]s to boot - > >With k's? This is completely new to me. It sounds >sort of "cute", though. > > According to my teacher, who was abt 75, 4'9", and bounced as she clapped her hands and chanted "amicitia, amicitiae," etc, classical latin used /k/ for the letter "c" in all locations, and later "vulgar" latin, including that of the medieval church, shifted to another rule that matched - French, perhaps? I have long since learned that nobody else living probably ever heard this tale; but I continue to use her rules, just as I play by my Dad's pinochle rules, even though I know that what he disparagingly called Grandmother Walter's rules" are actually the ones Hoyle prefers too. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:22:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72MWBp015282 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:22:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020B5A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:05 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB72K5x09104 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:05 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:19:59 PST Message-ID: <20031207021959.34245.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:19:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031206213727.GA16890@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > = > = Less cleaning up after him, I suppose. He said he > probably learned it in > = Europe from the Dutch who have no manners. > = > = Betty > > yeah, and you know what else? they don't rinse > their dishes > after they wash them. isn't that weird? Makes for clean innards. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:22:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72MXBp015286 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:22:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E3D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 361979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72Kpx09141 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020B5A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070220.hB72Kpx09141@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:50 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:30:00 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Betty wrote: > >>LOL. > >Bethany >practicing fierce silence Well, so far our "two feet" is abt 3". How is Rashmi faring, I wonder? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:27:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72RQBp015344 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:27:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6E3E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72Pix09600 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020B5B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:25:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070225.hB72Pix09600@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:54:41 -0700, John Williams wrote: >> --- Doris Markland wrote: >> > What is Junior League >> > anyway? The only thing I know about them >> > is that they put out terrific cookbooks. > >That, and they never attend orgies. > >JMW This would be inaccurate. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72S8Bp015354 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:28:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020B585@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72QRx09728 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020B5B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070226.hB72QRx09728@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:22:12 -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: >steph: >> = Richard, grandson of a Mason >> and this would possibly mean that our grandfathers knew or knew >> of each other. > >I hope we both inherited the secret handshake >so we'll recognize each other if we meet. > >-- >Richard, who s t3h intraweb This will come as no surprise, but I know it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:28:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72SWBp015368 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:28:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020B5B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB72Qpx09790 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:26:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:26:45 PST Message-ID: <20031207022645.19505.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Two things To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > It's very bad for people that have gout. Just > > tell your hosts/hostesses you're gouty. > > ...as I hammer down their booze? > > I think I'd blow my cover. > > -- > B. Franklin Well, I know what, then. When I was a kid I was a picky eater like Phil (almost), and if I hated things, I told people I was allergic. This would enable you to maintain your boozing image. And never, NEVER, turn down free booze. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72bXBp015491 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:37:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E405@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:35:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:35:51 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB72Zpx10453 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:35:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:35:46 PST Message-ID: <20031207023546.47349.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:35:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > I had an underwhelming tuna steak for dinner. Ho > hum, at least it's a change > from salmon. I cooked it on the Foreman grill and > made a little sauce for it > out of mustard and soy sauce. With it I had green > beans with slivered > almonds. I feel the omission of spare grass keenly. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:43:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72hEBp015581 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:43:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E41C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:41:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:41:32 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB72f6x10758 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:41:06 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:41:01 PST Message-ID: <20031207024101.22558.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:41:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Neat To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1070759801.3fd27f79d2c9a@webmail.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Just stumbled upon a computer in the motel lobby. > Took a picture today of my > old teacher sitting in a police car. Hope it turns > out. Before that the > camera had been hit hard by flying parade candy and > had immediately turned > itself off and said "charge batteries." More > tomorrow. Poor Spencer. All > alone tonight. > > -- Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) What was the charge against her? Spencer is probably having TWD over for fillet of Eukanuba. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:54:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72sZBp015794 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:54:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E41D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:52:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:52:54 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB72qrx11456 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:52:53 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 18:52:48 PST Message-ID: <20031207025248.31604.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312070218.hB72ISx08939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: but I continue to use her rules, > just as I play by my Dad's > pinochle rules, even though I know that what he > disparagingly called > Grandmother Walter's rules" are actually the ones > Hoyle prefers too. I'm glad you feel this way about preserving traditions, even rather eccentric ones. My Latin teacher was rather the antithesis of yours. Verna Muller was big, broad, and not very enthusiastic regarding any language. She informed me early on that I would fail in the study of any language. Indeed, I was a failure in her classes. But I learned to love French and Spanish. And there is not a day that passes that I don't thank the Fates that I DID get a firm grounding in Latin, despite ol' Verna. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 20:57:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB72v0Bp015843 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:57:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E424@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:55:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 362931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:55:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f10.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72tIx11583 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:55:18 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:55:13 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.210 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 02:55:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.210] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: bah humbug Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 02:55:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2003 02:55:13.0283 (UTC) FILETIME=[8905ED30:01C3BC6D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone catch -Bad Santa- yet? It's directed by the guy who made Crumb and Ghost World. I enjoyed it, though I ordinarily can't stand Billy Bob Thornton. Don't take the kids, it's not a sweet, sappy Christmas flick though some redemption-type stuff creeps in at the very end. Until then there's profanity and booze and rudeness and lotsa gross-out humor. Terry Zwigoff is da man. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:01:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7312Bp015939 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:01:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E443@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:59:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:59:21 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB72xKx11844 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:59:21 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB72xKrW000927 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:59:20 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.223.66]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB72xJiN002708 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:59:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:53:48 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow Message-ID: <1300771926.1070747628@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I had an underwhelming tuna steak for dinner. Ho hum, at least it's a > change from salmon. I cooked it on the Foreman grill and made a little > sauce for it out of mustard and soy sauce. With it I had green beans with > slivered almonds. > > --Adam Chinese would have been so much better! :-) We didn't make the ballet or our scheduled dinner with Adam. We have close to a foot of snow and it's snowing and blowing. At some point today, every Wild family member had on snow pants and snow boots. The flock of wild turkeys were back at a rousing 22. They initally showed up Sunday 1 hour before I put a farm raised cousin in the oven. I thought they were protesting. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:08:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB738JBp016060 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:08:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E453@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB736bx12385 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB736Orm007064 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:06:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:06:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <215373041.20031206210629@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <200312070218.hB72ISx08939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312070218.hB72ISx08939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > According to my teacher, who was abt 75, 4'9", and bounced as she clapped > her hands and chanted "amicitia, amicitiae," etc, classical latin used /k/ > for the letter "c" in all locations, and later "vulgar" latin, including > that of the medieval church, shifted to another rule that matched - French, > perhaps? I don't think I've heard the hard c as a vulgate thing, but I definitely learned both pronunciations. So while I'm not surprised by your pronunciation, I do still find it repulsive. (But I heard Church Latin every day for years and years.) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:10:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73AQBp016086 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:10:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020B60D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:08:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:08:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB738jx12596 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:08:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB738frm008482 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:08:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:08:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1217358227.20031206210846@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <1300771926.1070747628@LAPLAND> References: <1300771926.1070747628@LAPLAND> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 06, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > The flock of wild turkeys were back at a rousing 22. JEEEZE! > They initally showed up Sunday 1 hour before I put a farm raised > cousin in the oven. I thought they were protesting. LOL. Thank you for this image, Terry. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:12:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73C4Bp016134 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:12:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E44B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:10:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB730Mx11951 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:00:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB72xC61022262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:59:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:00:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206144508.03c978c0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206144508.03c978c0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Mike, Dammit (sic) >http://home.comcast.net/~sambayer/music/whymike.html Thank you! I now have a new assignment for my next section of Structure of Modern English. And a new mini-lecture for Intro to Lx in the spring. Most excellent! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73CUBp016140 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:12:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E45E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:10:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:10:49 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB73Amx12749 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:10:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-214.gwi.net [216.195.153.214]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB73AkAt054555; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:10:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206220846.00b6a498@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:09:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <1300771926.1070747628@LAPLAND> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:53 PM 12/6/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >The flock of wild turkeys were back at a rousing 22. They initally showed >up Sunday 1 hour before I put a farm raised cousin in the oven. I thought >they were protesting. Perhaps they were volunteering. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:20:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73KaBp016252 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:20:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E45E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:18:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:18:55 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB73Isx13321 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:18:55 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB73IsrW001228 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:18:54 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.223.66]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB73IriN004677 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:18:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:13:22 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow Message-ID: <1301945914.1070748802@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206220846.00b6a498@pop.gwi.net> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Saturday, December 06, 2003, 10:09 PM -0500 "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> The flock of wild turkeys were back at a rousing 22. They initally >> showed up Sunday 1 hour before I put a farm raised cousin in the oven. >> I thought they were protesting. > > Perhaps they were volunteering. > >cmv The young 'uns might have been tender enough, but I really didn't want to pluck a turkey in below freezing weather, thankyouverymuch. No Toms, looked like the hens and their broods from this year. I snapped a couple of pictures, but not with the digital, so we'll have to wait. It was quite the site with the snow today. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73O6Bp016300 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:24:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E474@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:22:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:22:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB73COx12904 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:12:25 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB73BE61024361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <20031207025248.31604.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031207025248.31604.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >My Latin teacher was rather the antithesis of yours. >Verna Muller was big, broad, and not very enthusiastic >regarding any language. She informed me early on that >I would fail in the study of any language. Indeed, I >was a failure in her classes. But I learned to love >French and Spanish. And there is not a day that >passes that I don't thank the Fates that I DID get a >firm grounding in Latin, despite ol' Verna. I had an awful Latin teacher. Too bad. If she had been a little less bad, I would have had 3 years of hs Latin. I dropped out after one semester. When I went to the office to drop the course, I was informed that I could not drop the course mid-year. "No problem, " I said [well, I probably actually said something else], "I'll just fail the second half so I can't take second year." They let me drop. She use to arrive in sweater/coat in the winter and have all the windows opened. The rest of us sat shivering through class. I regret not learning Latin well. I assumed I would study it in college - but Lamar did not offer it. Maybe I'll get back to it eventually. I remember that the first reading passage was about Italia being a peninsula. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:49:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73nPBp016716 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:49:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020B69F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:47:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 363939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:47:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB73bhx14591 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:37:43 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB73aW61029804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:36:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:37:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Good advent calendar etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10055.html I like especially the display of creches from around the world on Day 1. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 21:56:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB73uFBp016841 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:56:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E4D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:54:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:54:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB73iXx15325 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:44:33 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB73hM61030592 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:43:22 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:44:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: from another list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ---------- Forwarded message ---------- For the List's info, John is wrong in talking about sheep herds. They are flocks. OK, so jaybe [sic] we should have the word shepflock rather than shepherd, but that's a quirk of the Engl. language. Shepherds in the fields, keeping watch over their flocks by night. And suddenly........ --- Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 22:31:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB74VFBp017226 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:31:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E6FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:29:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:29:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB74TXx21170 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:29:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020B8E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:29:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070429.hB74TXx21170@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:29:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: bah humbug To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:55:12 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Anyone catch -Bad Santa- yet? It's directed by the guy who made >Crumb and Ghost World. I enjoyed it, though I ordinarily can't stand >Billy Bob Thornton. Don't take the kids, it's not a sweet, sappy >Christmas flick though some redemption-type stuff creeps in at >the very end. Until then there's profanity and booze and rudeness >and lotsa gross-out humor. Terry Zwigoff is da man. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 22:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB74bXBp017300 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:37:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E706@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:35:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:35:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB74Zpx21595 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:35:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020B8F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:35:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070435.hB74Zpx21595@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:35:50 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:12:24 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >I had an awful Latin teacher. Too bad. Mrs. Comstock was lovely; and luckily I also had a terrific French teacher before I left S.Ot. - M. Gary endured endless teasing gracefully and because he was truly bilingual was able to convey the notion that you can really live in other languages and worlds, something a lot of American FL teachers can't manage to put across convincingly. The Spanish teacher @Weedsport was a terrific example of a poor FL teacher. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 22:39:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB74dTBp017323 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:39:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020B8F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:37:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:37:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB74blx21829 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:37:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020B8C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:37:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200312070437.hB74blx21829@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:37:46 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: bah humbug To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:29:33 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:55:12 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >>Anyone catch -Bad Santa- yet? It's directed by the guy who made >>Crumb and Ghost World. I enjoyed it, though I ordinarily can't stand >>Billy Bob Thornton. Don't take the kids, it's not a sweet, sappy >>Christmas flick though some redemption-type stuff creeps in at >>the very end. Until then there's profanity and booze and rudeness >>and lotsa gross-out humor. Terry Zwigoff is da man. >> > > > shutting the barn door: These sites are also not for kids and other respectable eyes, in some links. Explore w/ caution. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 6 23:58:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB75wKBp018428 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:58:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020BA61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 0:56:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 373059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 00:56:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RG3k511eTvqSXFI1iX1opLRlvpASdf0D@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB75uLx28093 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 00:56:22 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199983057A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701EA2334A for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:56:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206072257.00a56600@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:56:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Boo Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:23 AM -0800 12/6/03, Betty wrote: >Are you having a birthday week? Two more days to celebrate. Anymore, I try as much as possible to forget my birthday. But friends and relatives WILL keep reminding me of it. :-) Ken Miller U.S. Natal Observatory From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 01:12:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB77CsBp019849 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:12:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6E9DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 2:11:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:11:10 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB77BAx01471 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:11:10 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.ac.4cb2ff1b (4459) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:11:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:11:01 EST Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/6/2003 3:37:51 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >yeah, and you know what else? they don't rinse their dishes >after they wash them. isn't that weird? > And isn't it amazing that none of us died prematurely! Think of all the water we saved.....Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 01:26:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB77QMBp020133 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 01:26:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6E9E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 2:24:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 375955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:24:39 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB77Ocx02201 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 02:24:38 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB77ObkF028693 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:24:37 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB77OaIO028691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:24:36 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:24:36 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow Message-ID: <20031207072436.GA28685@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206134505.00addaa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206134505.00addaa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: = At 10:37 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, steph wrote: = >= = >= Less cleaning up after him, I suppose. He said he probably learned it in = >= Europe from the Dutch who have no manners. = >= = >= Betty = > = >yeah, and you know what else? they don't rinse their dishes = >after they wash them. isn't that weird? = = Really? Yeah, really. Why would I make something like that up? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 06:48:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7CmcBp024917 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 06:48:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EB4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 7:46:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:46:49 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Ckmx21994 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:46:49 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB7CkmrW014138 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:46:48 -0500 Received: from [131.128.23.224] (CCEDU224.nets.uri.edu [131.128.23.224]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB7CkkiO013851 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:46:47 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206083531.00bb7e40@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312061319.hB6DJTx04055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:44:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: two feet of snow Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I'm sure it won't be straight down here. There will be little point in >shoveling until it stops blowing around a bit. But I'd like to get it >shoveled before it warms up on Monday and gets to be a heavy snow. > It sure is still snowing and blowing. Yesterday I shoveled 3 to 6" three times, and this morning there was no trace of that path. Shoveled another 12 to 18" out to the car, then decided to walk for the paper rather than shovel the plow berm. Nice walk, but no papers to be had. /Jim > >bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 07:42:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7DggBp025647 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:42:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EB88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 8:30:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:30:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7DUtx24819 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:30:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020BDBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 8:30:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312071330.hB7DUtx24819@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:30:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:44:09 -0500, Jim Bradley wrote: >> >>I'm sure it won't be straight down here. There will be little point in >>shoveling until it stops blowing around a bit. But I'd like to get it >>shoveled before it warms up on Monday and gets to be a heavy snow. >> >> >>bonnie > >It sure is still snowing and blowing. Yesterday I shoveled 3 to 6" three >times, and this morning there was no trace of that path. Shoveled another >12 to 18" out to the car, then decided to walk for the paper rather than >shovel the plow berm. Nice walk, but no papers to be had. > >/Jim > Whew! Althoough V came in and said "I love winter!" after shoveling the first 1" yesterday, I feel pretty certain this would have taxed even his tolerance. Thanks, coastal wordslers, for taking it on the weather chin for the rest of us! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 08:28:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7ESIBp026135 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:28:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EBE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 9:26:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:26:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7EQVx28406 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:26:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7EQTAr009931 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207092429.00b2e770@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:26:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <200312070435.hB74Zpx21595@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I had an awful Latin teacher. Too bad. > >Mrs. Comstock was lovely; and luckily I also had a terrific French teacher >before I left S.Ot. - M. Gary endured endless teasing gracefully ... >clo Sister Lucinda was wonderful. But I hated Latin (all languages) and didn't do well my second year. When Sister Lucinda taught me Chemistry the following year, she voiced the opinion that she should have pushed me harder during second year Latin, given that I was quite intelligent after all. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 08:32:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7EW6Bp026176 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:32:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EBFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 9:30:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 343817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:30:19 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7EUJx28701 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:30:19 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7EUIGn041423 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:30:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207092743.00b9dc18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:30:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206083531.00bb7e40@pop.gwi.net> <200312061319.hB6DJTx04055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It sure is still snowing and blowing. Yesterday I shoveled 3 to 6" three >times, and this morning there was no trace of that path. Shoveled another >12 to 18" out to the car, then decided to walk for the paper rather than >shovel the plow berm. Nice walk, but no papers to be had. >/Jim It's difficult to tell how many inches of snow we got overnight. Much of it is stuck to the sides of the houses, due to the wind. Some kind soul did remove the snowplow ridge at the end of our driveway. It must have been Dave when he came to plow Grandma and Grandpa Parsons' driveway. We had a bit of a scare this morning. Just as we started the coffee maker, turned up the furnace, and turned on our computers, the power went off. But only for about two minutes. Please hang in there Bangor Power!! It's NFL Sunday!!!! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 08:42:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7EgtBp026305 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:42:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EC0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 9:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:41:08 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Ef8x29643 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:41:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7Ef4At012502; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:41:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207092909.00b18188@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:40:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <200312071330.hB7DUtx24819@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 AM 12/7/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Whew! >Althoough V came in and said "I love winter!" after shoveling the first 1" >yesterday, I feel pretty certain this would have taxed even his tolerance. >Thanks, coastal wordslers, for taking it on the weather chin for the rest >of us! According to what is on the deck railing, we got maybe 6-8 inches; the forecast still is muttering about more. I can't tell if the stuff in the air is new or just wind-blown snow---probably a mix. The street is nicely plowed and sanded already. Interesting morning. Got up late (nothing to do today but shovel snow, and the snow certainly will wait for us), cranked up the thermostat, turned on the computer, and started the coffeemaker. Xerxes (the big dummy) asked to go out. I opened the back door about 2 inches---all I could manage against the drift there; he looked, sniffed, and dived back into bed with Bonnie. Then, having poured myself a V-8 (fortified with a little chipotle sauce), I came in here to toggle the modem, just in time for the computer and everything else electrical stop. As I was resigning myself to shoveling some first, then making coffee on the stove, the power came back. Another cuppa and I'll be ready to face the windchill. There is a crow sitting in the ash tree right outside my window. He is fluffed up to about twice his normal size---sort of ragged, looking a bit more like a raven than a crow. He does not look happy as he contemplates the bird-feeder next door which appears to be snow-clogged. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 08:48:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7EmmBp026363 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:48:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020BE2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 9:46:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:46:57 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Ekux30067 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:46:57 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB7Ekq3M000747 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:46:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3bcd1$0e915c60$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207092429.00b2e770@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Attn: New Yorkers Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:47:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I had an awful Latin teacher. Too bad. > > > >Mrs. Comstock was lovely; and luckily I also had a terrific French teacher > >before I left S.Ot. - M. Gary endured endless teasing gracefully ... > >clo > > Sister Lucinda was wonderful. But I hated Latin (all languages) and didn't > do well my second year. When Sister Lucinda taught me Chemistry the > following year, she voiced the opinion that she should have pushed me > harder during second year Latin, given that I was quite intelligent after all. > > > bonnie I took Latin in college because I didn't have it in HS. My teacher was Miss Dimmitt, a gracious spinster, former Dean of Women, well-travelled and much liked. She taught small classes in her home, in front of the fireplace, with tea. Very memorable . . the fire, the tea . . but all I remember of Latin is that all Gaul was divided into three parts. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 08:55:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7EtbBp026413 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:55:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EC14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 9:43:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:43:50 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Ehox29822 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:43:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7EhlAt012927; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:43:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207094200.00b3b8f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:43:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <1301945914.1070748802@LAPLAND> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206220846.00b6a498@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:13 PM 12/6/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >The young 'uns might have been tender enough, but I really didn't want to >pluck a turkey in below freezing weather, thankyouverymuch. Indeed. Once upon a time I scalded and plucked a lot of ducks outside in near-freezing weather. Not one of my fonder memories. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 09:04:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7F4hBp026505 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:04:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EC58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 10:02:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:02:56 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7F2ux31667 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:02:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7F2sGn045245 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:02:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207100203.00b9ca10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:03:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Attn: New Yorkers In-Reply-To: <000601c3bcd1$0e915c60$dbcadece@0018079268> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207092429.00b2e770@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > but all I remember of Latin is that all Gaul was divided >into three parts. > - D. M. I remember that and I remember the declension of "you": tu, tui, tibi, te, te. I also remember something about Hannibal and elephants coming over a mountain. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 09:17:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7FHHBp026678 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:17:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EC7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 10:15:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:15:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7FFUx32765 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:15:30 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7FFS2f006854 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:15:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7FFQJC006844; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:15:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207071728.00a2cdc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:17:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <20031207072436.GA28685@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031206134505.00addaa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20031206183520.0283d640@localhost> <818285551.20031206120801@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031206114656.00abc280@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206122124.00a46d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031206134505.00addaa0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:24 AM 12/7/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Betty: >= At 10:37 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >= >= >= >= Less cleaning up after him, I suppose. He said he probably learned it in >= >= Europe from the Dutch who have no manners. >= >= >= >= Betty >= > >= >yeah, and you know what else? they don't rinse their dishes >= >after they wash them. isn't that weird? >= >= Really? > >Yeah, really. Why would I make something like that up? Well, I was making something up. Larry has never been to Europe. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 09:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7FJJBp026696 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:19:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EC80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 10:17:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:17:33 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7FGmx00363 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:16:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7FGk2f007398 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:16:47 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7FGjJC007384; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:16:46 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207071842.00ae8ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:19:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <200312071330.hB7DUtx24819@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 AM 12/7/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:44:09 -0500, Jim Bradley wrote: > > >> > >>I'm sure it won't be straight down here. There will be little point in > >>shoveling until it stops blowing around a bit. But I'd like to get it > >>shoveled before it warms up on Monday and gets to be a heavy snow. > >> > > >> > >>bonnie > > > >It sure is still snowing and blowing. Yesterday I shoveled 3 to 6" three > >times, and this morning there was no trace of that path. Shoveled another > >12 to 18" out to the car, then decided to walk for the paper rather than > >shovel the plow berm. Nice walk, but no papers to be had. > > > >/Jim > > > >Whew! >Althoough V came in and said "I love winter!" after shoveling the first 1" >yesterday, I feel pretty certain this would have taxed even his tolerance. >Thanks, coastal wordslers, for taking it on the weather chin for the rest >of us! > >clo I thought you, at least bonnie, loved winter and the snow?? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 09:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7FvsBp027293 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:57:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ECC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:56:08 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7Fu7x03101 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 07:56:02 PST Message-ID: <20031207155602.90796.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 07:56:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Jim Bradley wrote: > > It sure is still snowing and blowing. Yesterday I > shoveled 3 to 6" three > times, and this morning there was no trace of that > path. Shoveled another > 12 to 18" out to the car, then decided to walk for > the paper rather than > shovel the plow berm. Nice walk, but no papers to be > had. > > /Jim We saw Jimmy on the CBS early morning show Sat. AM. He has to be one of the most likable and astute chefs in NYC. He was down-to-earth and perfectly charming. You do good work! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 10:07:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7G75Bp027418 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:07:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020BF3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:05:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:05:19 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7G5Ix03896 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:05:18 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 08:05:13 PST Message-ID: <20031207160513.47473.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Dessert and Rice Flour To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev, I am looking forward to your description of your "favorite" dessert. This would be a pleasing and comfortable time to tell us about it, as you watch the swirling snow from your snug computer cranny. Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, and how it differs from wheat flour? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 10:18:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7GILBp027535 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:18:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020BF50@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:16:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:16:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7GGYx04758 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:16:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7GGWAr027153 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:16:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207111342.00b45380@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:16:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031207071842.00ae8ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <200312071330.hB7DUtx24819@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I thought you, at least bonnie, loved winter and the snow?? I do love winter and I do love snow. But sometimes, I admit, it's a pain. In the end, the pain is worth it. We are now shoveled out with the help of Tim who had Grandpa Parsons' snow blower. Tim did most of the driveway for us. I shoveled the front walk and I shoveled a path in the deep snow on the deck. We can now get out the back door. I also drove to town for the Sunday newspapers which made it up here from Portland and Boston by 11:00 a.m. Frenchman Bay is churning in the wind. Lots of whitecaps. And the Porcupine Islands are beautiful in their snow cover. Mount Cadillac also looks quite snowy this morning. Yes, it's worth it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 10:20:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7GKfBp027568 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:20:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6ECE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:18:54 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7GIsx04946 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:18:54 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7GIqGn056205 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:18:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207111711.00b3f078@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:19:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031207160513.47473.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev, I am looking forward to your description of >your "favorite" dessert. This would be a pleasing and >comfortable time to tell us about it, as you watch the >swirling snow from your snug computer cranny. It is called lava cake. It is a small dense chocolate cake, shaped like a miniature bundt cake. In the center is molten chocolate syrup. Oh god. Yum. The very best dessert I ever ate, though, was a butterscotch pie with hazelnut crust. >Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, >and how it differs from wheat flour? He has just finished making our breakfast. I'm sure he will be with you shortly. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 10:24:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7GOnBp027608 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:24:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ECEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:23:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:23:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7GN1x05414 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:23:01 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7GN0W1007538 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:23:00 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7GMwWq007518; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:22:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207082305.00af0880@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 08:25:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207111342.00b45380@pop.gwi.net> References: <4.2.2.20031207071842.00ae8ee0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <200312071330.hB7DUtx24819@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:16 AM 12/7/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>I thought you, at least bonnie, loved winter and the snow?? > >I do love winter and I do love snow. But sometimes, I admit, it's a >pain. In the end, the pain is worth it. We are now shoveled out with the >help of Tim who had Grandpa Parsons' snow blower. Tim did most of the >driveway for us. I shoveled the front walk and I shoveled a path in the >deep snow on the deck. We can now get out the back door. I also drove to >town for the Sunday newspapers which made it up here from Portland and >Boston by 11:00 a.m. Frenchman Bay is churning in the wind. Lots of >whitecaps. And the Porcupine Islands are beautiful in their snow >cover. Mount Cadillac also looks quite snowy this morning. Yes, it's >worth it. I know you are happy there and it is indeed beautiful. Sometimes when people retire to different states it doesn't always work out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 10:36:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7GalBp027762 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:36:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ECF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:24:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:24:57 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7GOux05689 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:24:57 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120716245001200jjv0ne>; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:24:50 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207082619.035870e8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 08:27:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031207160513.47473.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, and how it differs >from wheat flour? I got some glutinous rice flour from the Asian supermarket, in the hopes of making isobe mochi. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:00:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7H0DBp028018 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:00:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020BFBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:48:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:48:08 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Gm8x08070 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:48:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7Gm4Gp060112; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:48:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207114137.00b30400@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:48:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031207160513.47473.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:05 AM 12/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >bonniev, I am looking forward to your description of >your "favorite" dessert. This would be a pleasing and >comfortable time to tell us about it, as you watch the >swirling snow from your snug computer cranny. > >Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, >and how it differs from wheat flour? It has less protein than does wheat flour, probably less gluten as well. I use rice flour to dust things like ravioli and gnocchi so that they don't stick to each other or the surface. It sometimes is used as an additive to reduce the protein content of wheat flour. The stuff I use is ground very fine--almost like arrowroot powder. As Pete suggested, most Asian markets should have it. I buy mine at a store that features organic foods, vitamin and nutritional supplements, etc. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7H3mBp028064 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:03:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6ED1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:41:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:41:56 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Gftx07283 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:41:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031207164150.PBOZ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:41:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3584F.1060700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:41:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: YAY!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The flying candy didn't kill my camera. And Miss Breland's face is at least somewhat visible in the police car, something I had feared might not be the case, unrelated to the flying candy. http://www.maynor.net/breland.jpg More later. I am way behind in everything, like banquet-decoration arrangements, etc. etc. etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7H3mBp028065 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:03:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ED62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 11:54:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:54:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Gsox09284 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:54:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7GsnW1029292 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:54:49 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7GsmWq029283 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:54:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 08:57:20 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Congratulations to Netherlands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Royal Princess was born - the Royal Heir to the throne. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:08:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7H83Bp028135 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:08:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6ED8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 12:06:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:06:06 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7H66x10660 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:06:06 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:06:00 PST Message-ID: <20031207170600.7063.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:06:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207082619.035870e8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > I got some glutinous rice flour from the Asian > supermarket, in the hopes of > making isobe mochi. Thanks! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:10:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7HABBp028163 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:10:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6ED80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 12:08:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 347970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:08:23 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7H8Nx10919 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:08:23 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:08:18 PST Message-ID: <20031207170818.61474.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:08:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: YAY!! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD3584F.1060700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > More later. I am way behind in everything, like > banquet-decoration > arrangements, etc. etc. etc. etc. It is very clever of her to look so gracious while in custody. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:14:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7HECBp028203 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:14:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6ED8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 12:11:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7HBlx11196 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:11:41 PST Message-ID: <20031207171141.57809.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207114137.00b30400@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > It has less protein than does wheat flour, probably > less gluten as well. I > use rice flour to dust things like ravioli and > gnocchi so that they don't > stick to each other or the surface. It sometimes is > used as an additive to > reduce the protein content of wheat flour. The > stuff I use is ground very > fine--almost like arrowroot powder. > > As Pete suggested, most Asian markets should have > it. I buy mine at a > store that features organic foods, vitamin and > nutritional supplements, etc. Thank you. It is an ingredient in an old recipe I have not tried yet - "Maid of Honor" tarts". My crazy Welsh grandmother used to bake them. I have been unsuccessful in locating any yet (rice flour), but I may go to Anniston one day next week. There is a wider range of shopping options there. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:14:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7HECBq028203 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:14:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6ED8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 12:12:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:12:16 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7HCFx11272 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:12:15 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:12:10 PST Message-ID: <20031207171210.60329.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Royal Princess was born - the Royal Heir to the throne. Have they named her? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:28:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7HS7Bp028410 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:28:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EDC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 12:26:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:26:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Nv0ai3QWYVc0455i934Kc9dpBQRxj6mx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7HQGx12029 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:26:16 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98983305B4 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EB123346 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:26:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031207160513.47473.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:26:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:05 AM -0800 12/7/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, >and how it differs from wheat flour? I'm not Clyde, nor do I play him on TV, but the main difference between rice flour and wheat flour is that the former is milled from rice, while the latter is milled from wheat. Bob's Red Mill (http://www.bobsredmill.com) has pretty much everything that anyone might ever want to put into bread. In addition to their online store, most of the gourmet stores in my neck of the woods carry many of their products; your neck may vary. Ken Miller Department of Organoleptics California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 11:34:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7HYaBp028498 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:34:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C038@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 12:32:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:32:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7HWmx12457 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:32:48 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7HWk2f031051 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:32:47 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7HWjJC031034; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 09:32:46 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207093510.00ae9200@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 09:35:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: YAY!! In-Reply-To: <3FD3584F.1060700@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wonderful!! At 10:41 AM 12/7/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >The flying candy didn't kill my camera. And Miss Breland's face is at >least somewhat visible in the police car, something I had feared might >not be the case, unrelated to the flying candy. > >http://www.maynor.net/breland.jpg > >More later. I am way behind in everything, like banquet-decoration >arrangements, etc. etc. etc. etc. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 12:25:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7IP4Bp028971 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:25:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EE3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 349758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f14.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7ID6x15653 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:13:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:13:00 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.159 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:13:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.159] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: two feet of snow Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:13:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2003 18:13:00.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFA02380:01C3BCED] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonnie pleads: > Please hang in there >Bangor >Power!! It's NFL Sunday!!!! Go Iggles! Who's Clyde rooting for? _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year — six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 12:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7IdWBp029177 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020C0F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 13:27:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:27:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7IRax17156 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:27:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7IRZ2f008510 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:27:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB7IRXJC008493; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:27:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207102949.00ae4e90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:30:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <20031207171210.60329.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:12 AM 12/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty wrote: > > Royal Princess was born - the Royal Heir to the >throne. > >Have they named her? The name has not been made public yet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 12:45:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7IjABp029265 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EE80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 13:33:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:33:21 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7IXKx17729 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:33:20 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7IXAAr049334 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:33:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207133140.00b4e378@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:33:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonnie pleads: >>Please hang in there Bangor Power!! It's NFL Sunday!!!! > >Go Iggles! Who's Clyde rooting for? Beyond rooting for the power to stay on and the satellite dish to continue to receive, I'm not sure he roots for any particular team. He watches all of the games each Sunday because he has the Sunday Ticket from DirecTV. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 12:45:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7IjABp029266 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EE79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 13:34:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 350486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:34:00 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7IY0x17786 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:34:00 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120718335201300mnelle>; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:33:53 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207103251.034d7008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 10:36:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031207171141.57809.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207114137.00b30400@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >I have been unsuccessful in locating any yet (rice flour), but I may go to >Anniston one day next week. There is a wider range of shopping options there. Specialty foods are susceptible to online shopping. Here are some stores which have rice flour (use their search functions): http://www.shopnatural.com/ http://www.pacificrim-gourmet.com/ http://www.namaste.com/ http://www.bakerscatalogue.com/ http://www.mexgrocer.com/ http://www.americanspice.com/ http://www.asiafoods.com/ (currently has database error) And comparison shopping services: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=rice+flour http://www.amazon.com/gourmetfood http://www.shopping.com/xFS?FD=0&KW=rice+flour http://www1.pricetool.com/xDN-Food_and_Drinks-rice_flour Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:07:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7J7UBp029505 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:07:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EEDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:02:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:02:31 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7J2Vx20558 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:02:31 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:02:26 PST Message-ID: <20031207190226.84238.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:02:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031207102949.00ae4e90@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > At 09:12 AM 12/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >--- Betty wrote: > > > Royal Princess was born - the Royal Heir to the > >throne. > > > >Have they named her? > > The name has not been made public yet. I'll bet Theo has some interesting suggestions. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:07:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7J7UBp029504 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:07:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EED3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:01:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:01:34 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7J1Yx20370 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:01:34 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:01:29 PST Message-ID: <20031207190129.76566.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:01:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > Bob's Red Mill (http://www.bobsredmill.com) has > pretty much everything that > anyone might ever want to put into bread. In > addition to their online > store, most of the gourmet stores in my neck of the > woods carry many of > their products; your neck may vary. Thank you, Boo! The Publix chain carries this, there are four Publix groceries in B'ham, and I even know how to get to one of them. IMFTATL appears to be quick, efficient, and fun. If this works out, maybe someday I'll send you a maid of honor. (There's your opening.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7J7UBq029505 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:07:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EEDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:05:42 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7J5gx20899 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:05:42 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.10c.2d28d07a (16633) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:05:30 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <10c.2d28d07a.2d04d3fa@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:05:30 EST Subject: I wish you enough To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At an airport, I overheard a father and his daughter in their last moments together. They had announced her plane's departure and standing near the door she said, "Daddy, our life together has been more than enough. Your love is all I ever needed. I wish you enough too, Daddy." They kissed good-bye and she left. He walked over towards the window where I was seated. Standing there I could see he wanted and needed to cry. I tried not to intrude on his privacy, but he welcomed me in by asking, "Did you ever say good-bye to someone knowing it would be forever?" "Yes, I have," I replied. Saying that brought back memories I had of expressing my love and appreciation for all my Dad had done for me. Recognizing that his days were limited, I took the time to tell him face to face how much he meant to me. So I knew what this man was experiencing. "Forgive me for asking, but why is this a forever good-bye?" I asked. "I am old and she lives much too far away. I have challenges ahead and the reality is, her next trip back will be for my funeral," he said. "When you were saying good-bye I heard you say, 'I wish you enough, may I ask what that means?" He began to smile. "That's a wish that has been handed down from other generations. My parents used to say it to everyone." He paused for a moment and looking up as if trying to remember it in detail, he smiled even more. "When we said, 'I wish you enough,' we were wanting the other person to have a life filled with enough good things to sustain them." He continued and then, turning toward me, he shared the following as if he were reciting it from memory: I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright. I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun more. I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive. I wish you enough pain so that the smallest joys in life appear much bigger. I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting. I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess. I wish you enough "Hellos" to get you through the final "Good-bye" He then began to sob and walked away. My friends and loved ones, I wish you enough. They say, "It takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but an entire lifetime to forget them" Send this phrase to the people you'll never forget and also remember to send it to the person who sent it to you. It's a short message to let them know that you'll never forget them. If you don't send it to anyone, it means that you're in a hurry and you need to slow down to enjoy what is around you, the people around you. I wish you enough. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:49:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JncBp030013 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:49:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EECF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:07:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:07:25 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7J7Px21073 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:07:25 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-168.gwi.net [216.195.151.168]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB7J7LAv054072; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:07:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207140602.00b483a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 14:06:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:13 PM 12/7/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >bonnie pleads: > >> Please hang in there >>Bangor >>Power!! It's NFL Sunday!!!! > >Go Iggles! Who's Clyde rooting for? My wish is that the winner emerges victorious. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:49:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JncBq030013 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EEEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:08:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:08:25 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7J8Px21157 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:08:25 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:08:20 PST Message-ID: <20031207190820.78188.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:08:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207103251.034d7008@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Specialty foods are susceptible to online shopping. > > Here are some stores which have rice flour (use > their search functions): > > http://www.shopnatural.com/ > http://www.pacificrim-gourmet.com/ > http://www.namaste.com/ > http://www.bakerscatalogue.com/ > http://www.mexgrocer.com/ > http://www.americanspice.com/ > http://www.asiafoods.com/ (currently has database > error) > > And comparison shopping services: > > http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=rice+flour > http://www.amazon.com/gourmetfood > http://www.shopping.com/xFS?FD=0&KW=rice+flour > http://www1.pricetool.com/xDN-Food_and_Drinks-rice_flour > > Pete Dear Pete, you are better than a personal shopper. The next time you are passing through Sylacauga, come see me and I'll cook for you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:49:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JncBr030013 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:49:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EED7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:09:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7J9Gx21240 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:09:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.cc.25e451b7 (16633) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:09:05 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:09:05 EST Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 1:02:44 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >> The name has not been made public yet. > >I'll bet Theo has some interesting suggestions. > I'm sorry to have to disappoint you, but I'm out of suggestions. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:49:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JncBs030013 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:49:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6EF09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 351991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7JKxx22194 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:20:54 PST Message-ID: <20031207192054.87485.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:20:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207140602.00b483a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > My wish is that the winner emerges victorious. This may be overly optimistic. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:49:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JncBt030013 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:49:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6EF12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:21:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:21:52 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7JLqx22304 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:21:52 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120719214601300msuhce>; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:21:46 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207112349.02d4c008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:24:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031207190820.78188.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207103251.034d7008@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >The next time you are passing through Sylacauga, come >see me and I'll cook for you. Okay, I will. Thank you kindly. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:49:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JncBu030013 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:49:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EEFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:24:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:24:00 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7JO0x22495 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:24:00 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:23:55 PST Message-ID: <20031207192355.26003.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:23:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > I'm sorry to have to disappoint you, but I'm out of > suggestions. Aw, c'mon, Theo. This is a field where you and steph have the inside track. Surely you have a sentimental favorite? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 13:50:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7JouBp030041 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:50:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C1FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 14:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 352710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:49:08 -0500 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Jn7x24753 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:49:07 -0500 Received: from onetel.net.uk (213-78-91-75.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.91.75]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id APA97437; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:49:05 GMT Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:49:59 +0000 Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20031207192355.26003.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <8A57A4C5-28EE-11D8-AA98-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'll be highly surprised if it's Emily. Roy On Sunday, Dec 7, 2003, at 19:23 Europe/London, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Theo Groothof wrote: >> I'm sorry to have to disappoint you, but I'm out of >> suggestions. > > Aw, c'mon, Theo. This is a field where you and steph > have the inside track. Surely you have a sentimental favorite? > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 14:36:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7KaDBp030741 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:36:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6EFC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 15:34:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:34:24 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB7KYOx28868 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:34:24 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:34:19 PST Message-ID: <20031207203419.3896.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:34:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <8A57A4C5-28EE-11D8-AA98-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Roy Jaques wrote: > I'll be highly surprised if it's Emily. Better Emily than Britney! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 14:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7KjcBp030888 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:45:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F006@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 15:43:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:43:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Khix29806 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:43:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB7KhgkF029862 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:43:42 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB7Khgag029860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:43:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:43:42 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Message-ID: <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: = Royal Princess was born - the Royal Heir to the throne. The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 14:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7KjhBp030891 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:45:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F00F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 15:43:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:43:54 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Khsx29823 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:43:54 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB7KhsrW022631 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:43:54 -0500 Received: from [131.128.23.168] (CCEDU168.nets.uri.edu [131.128.23.168]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB7KhqiO032756 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:43:53 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207092743.00b9dc18@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031206083531.00bb7e40@pop.gwi.net> <200312061319.hB6DJTx04055@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:41:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: two feet of snow Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >It's difficult to tell how many inches of snow we got overnight. Much of >it is stuck to the sides of the houses, due to the wind. Some kind soul >did remove the snowplow ridge at the end of our driveway. It must have >been Dave when he came to plow Grandma and Grandpa Parsons' driveway. We >had a bit of a scare this morning. Just as we started the coffee maker, >turned up the furnace, and turned on our computers, the power went >off. But only for about two minutes. Please hang in there Bangor >Power!! It's NFL Sunday!!!! Our power went out for almost 2 hours yesterday. fortunately, it came back on just in time for the URI/PC game. Missing that would have been worse than no dinner and sleeping in a frigid house. /Jim > > >bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 14:53:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7KrBBp031020 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:53:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F01B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 15:51:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 354742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:51:22 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7KpLx30398 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:51:22 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB7KpLrW022755 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:51:21 -0500 Received: from [131.128.23.168] ([131.128.223.44]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB7KpKiO001175 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:51:21 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031207155602.90796.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:48:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: two feet of snow Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >We saw Jimmy on the CBS early morning show Sat. AM. >He has to be one of the most likable and astute chefs >in NYC. He was down-to-earth and perfectly charming. >You do good work! > Damn! Missed him again. I have yet to see him on TV. /Jim > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 15:19:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7LJGBp031321 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F05C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 16:17:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 355502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:17:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7LHQx00304 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:17:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-219.inebraska.com [206.222.202.219]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hB7LHN3M005842 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:17:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3bd07$9c66a820$dbcadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Bye Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:18:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB7LJGBp031321 I'm shutting this thing down. Going to Phoenix to visit relatives and friends. I will be in Phoenix, Peoria, Scottsdale, and Ahwatukee. But . . . . . "I'll be home for Christmas .. You can count on me" Oh btw, Sara got home from India. She had a marvelous experience full of surprises, most good but some disappointing. She'd go back in a minute. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 15:55:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7Lt5Bp031723 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:55:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F065@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 16:33:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 355886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:33:07 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7LX7x01352 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:33:07 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.bc.41400846 (4529) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:32:58 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:32:58 EST Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 2:44:02 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a >girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! > If the daddy isn't sure yet, you expect ME to know? I haven't kept up with the whole family over the years, but if there isn't a Wilhelmina yet, (great grandma) I'd vote for it..... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 16:47:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7MlOBp032425 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:47:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F1E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 17:45:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 359117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:45:31 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7MjVx08775 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:45:31 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6e.35aec7a8 (2168) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:45:20 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6e.35aec7a8.2d050780@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:45:20 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Dessert and Rice Flour To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 11:26:24 AM Central Standard Time, bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM writes: << Bob's Red Mill (http://www.bobsredmill.com) has pretty much everything that anyone might ever want to put into bread. >> I was going to get some for my bread machine and make bread my next day off, but that won't be until Saturday, so I can get it on Friday since Reasor's carries the Red Mill products. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 16:55:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7MtTBp032495 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:55:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F1F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 17:53:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 359460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:53:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7Mrdx09659 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:53:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB7MrM6X004526 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:53:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:53:27 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1384709227.20031207165327@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: On multiple Jerry Garcias... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.tjmonkeys.com/thought.php?theid=48 Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 17:14:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB7NEWBp032752 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:14:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F253@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 18:12:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 360463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB7NCbx11555 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:12:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031207231232.MOZ1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3B3E0.7040506@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:12:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Parade Pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They're not all that exciting, but if you're in the mood for some xmas parade pictures, here they are: http://maynor.net/Temp/Jackson/ If you wonder why there aren't many viewers on the sidewalks in most of the pictures, it's because I took the first couple of pictures on the main street and then decided to go to the other street, where the parade looped up before ending, since it occurred to me that I wanted to be on that other street at the end because it was where the xmas tree was. I didn't see the tree actually get lit. I hadn't realized how late is would be -- how long the whole thing would take. The parade started at 2:00 and ended just before 5:00. It was LONG. I didn't take any pictures of Santa Claus at the end with a huge bunch of horses around him -- men on horses galloping about in circles. (And speaking of circles, I'm sorry I didn't get any good ones of the policemen doing all kinds of fancy formations and circles and hot-doggy stuff on their motorcycles at the beginning. I just couldn't quite capture it. They were GOOD.) Anyway, I was freezing totally to death by the time the parade ended -- had been standing out there since 1:30. I then discovered that it wasn't a matter of a quick lighting of the tree at the end of the parade -- there was a whole program, with choirs and speakers and stuff. Fortunately, I had been standing up near the tree before the parade ended and had seen a police car drive up. My gut feeling was that it was my former teacher, Miss Breland, the giver of the tree. She's 98 years old, still sharp and spunky, still drives around all over the place and takes care of her younger sister, who is a spring chicken in her early 90s, but I really didn't think they would expect her to drive herself to this ceremony. I was right. I got the glimpse of an oldish woman in the police car (turned out I was looking at Miss Breland's younger sister, who was in the back seat -- Miss Breland was in the front seat). So I went over to the car and had a great conversation with her. We visited for a good little while, and she told me the next time I'm in Jackson to call her and we can go out to lunch together. I'm not sure whether she was brought out of the car at the last minute to actually stand there as the mayor lighted the tree. It was mighty cold for a 98-yr-old to be standing outside. The plan might have been for her to watch from the policecar, which was parked very close to where the mayor was going to flip the tree switch. If my car had been parked anywhere close, I would've endured the cold and waiting for the moment when the lights sprang on. But I was parked a pretty good distance away, behind the Old Capitol museum, which I visited briefly before going down to the parade area. So I decided that the thing to do was to go on and leave right after the mayor's brief welcome -- before the rest of the program. I wouldn't have if I hadn't gotten to have that nice visit with Miss Breland before the ceremony. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 19:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB81acBp002082 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:36:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F3C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 20:34:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 364852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:34:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB81Olx28956 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:24:47 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB81NZ61014483 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:23:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:24:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Boo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >Anymore, I try as much as possible to forget my birthday. But friends and >relatives WILL keep reminding me of it. :-) GREAT use of positive anymore! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82SWBp002633 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:28:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020C714@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:16:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:16:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Gex02987 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:16:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C70F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:16:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312080216.hB82Gex02987@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:16:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:48:01 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 08:05 AM 12/7/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >>bonniev, I am looking forward to your description of >>your "favorite" dessert. This would be a pleasing and >>comfortable time to tell us about it, as you watch the >>swirling snow from your snug computer cranny. >> >>Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, >>and how it differs from wheat flour? > >It has less protein than does wheat flour, probably less gluten as well. I >use rice flour to dust things like ravioli and gnocchi so that they don't >stick to each other or the surface. It sometimes is used as an additive to >reduce the protein content of wheat flour. The stuff I use is ground very >fine--almost like arrowroot powder. > >As Pete suggested, most Asian markets should have it. I buy mine at a >store that features organic foods, vitamin and nutritional supplements, etc. > >cwv It also has far, far less gluten - people with wheat and gluten allergies can generally eat a little rice with better effects (except, of course, the high gluten kind!). The lower gluten means it doesn't stick together and rise as a yeasted bread dough nearly as well. It burns at a lower temp too, iirc. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:28:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82SWBq002633 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:28:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020C716@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:17:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82HSx03142 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:17:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C711@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:17:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312080217.hB82HSx03142@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:17:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 08:57:20 -0800, Betty wrote: >Royal Princess was born - the Royal Heir to the throne. YaY! I'm in a baby mood, so it seems doubly nice today! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:33:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82XgBp002724 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:33:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020C6FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:31:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:31:46 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Vkx04536 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:31:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208023141.IQAX29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:31:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3E28E.4040308@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 20:31:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Parade Pictures References: <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Very good indeed, Glad You were able to have a visit > with her. Were there many other former students in attendance? None that I knew. I'm guessing very few, if any. And that seems odd to me. The reason I'm guessing very few, if any, is that she retired around '70, which means that most of her former students would be white, and there were very few whites at the event. (Jackson is predominantly black, so it's not surprising that there would be more blacks than whites at city events, but I was surprised at how few whites I saw there -- it's not as if Jackson is 100% black.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBp002741 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:13:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:13:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82DBx02448 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:13:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C706@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:13:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312080213.hB82DBx02448@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:13:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:19:02 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>bonniev, I am looking forward to your description of >>your "favorite" dessert. This would be a pleasing and >>comfortable time to tell us about it, as you watch the >>swirling snow from your snug computer cranny. > >It is called lava cake. It is a small dense chocolate cake, shaped like a >miniature bundt cake. In the center is molten chocolate syrup. Oh >god. Yum. The very best dessert I ever ate, though, was a butterscotch >pie with hazelnut crust. > >>Does Clyde know where I might find some rice flour, >>and how it differs from wheat flour? > >He has just finished making our breakfast. I'm sure he will be with you >shortly. > > >bonnie Unbelievably, the best dessert I have ever had, I ate sitting across the table from our own Mr. Samant. I remember vivdly being so surprised at the intense goodness of the flavor that it actually interrupted my train of thought. Sadly, the conversation was so much more interesting that I never flagged the name of the dish for memory. Something extremely light, pumpkin and cinnamon mousse-ish. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBq002741 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F42D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:20:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:20:31 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB82KVx03633 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:20:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:20:26 PST Message-ID: <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:20:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Parade Pictures To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD3B3E0.7040506@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Anyway, I was freezing totally to death by the time > the parade ended -- > had been standing out there since 1:30. I then > discovered that it > wasn't a matter of a quick lighting of the tree at > the end of the parade > -- there was a whole program, with choirs and > speakers and stuff. > Fortunately, I had been standing up near the tree > before the parade > ended and had seen a police car drive up. My gut > feeling was that it > was my former teacher, Miss Breland, the giver of > the tree. She's 98 > years old, still sharp and spunky, still drives > around all over the > place and takes care of her younger sister, who is a > spring chicken in > her early 90s, but I really didn't think they would > expect her to drive > herself to this ceremony. I was right. I got the > glimpse of an oldish > woman in the police car (turned out I was looking at > Miss Breland's > younger sister, who was in the back seat -- Miss > Breland was in the > front seat). So I went over to the car and had a > great conversation > with her. We visited for a good little while, and > she told me the next > time I'm in Jackson to call her and we can go out to > lunch together. > > I'm not sure whether she was brought out of the car > at the last minute > to actually stand there as the mayor lighted the > tree. It was mighty > cold for a 98-yr-old to be standing outside. The > plan might have been > for her to watch from the policecar, which was > parked very close to > where the mayor was going to flip the tree switch. > If my car had been > parked anywhere close, I would've endured the cold > and waiting for the > moment when the lights sprang on. But I was parked > a pretty good > distance away, behind the Old Capitol museum, which > I visited briefly > before going down to the parade area. So I decided > that the thing to do > was to go on and leave right after the mayor's brief > welcome -- before > the rest of the program. I wouldn't have if I > hadn't gotten to have > that nice visit with Miss Breland before the > ceremony. Very good indeed, Glad You were able to have a visit with her. Were there many other former students in attendance? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBp002742 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F40C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:15:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:15:37 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Fbx02861 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:15:37 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031208021532016002u9q9e> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:15:32 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Bye Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:15:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <000801c3bd07$9c66a820$dbcadece@0018079268> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm shutting this thing down. > Going to Phoenix to visit relatives and friends. > I will be in Phoenix, Peoria, Scottsdale, and > Ahwatukee. But . . . . . Drat, my sister lives near Ahwatukee, you should visit. She lives on South 45th place in Phoenix. Before that she lived in Ahwatukee proper. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBq002742 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F418@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:22:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:22:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Mux03900 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:22:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C71C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:22:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312080222.hB82Mux03900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:22:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:20:54 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> My wish is that the winner emerges victorious. > >This may be overly optimistic. > It was in "our neck" this week! The SU football team, which has been decidedly lackluster the last two years, surprised everyone by not finishing 5-5 when they won the last game of the season, energized (I surmise) by the rumors that their coach, universally admired as a good guy, might be fired over losing seasons. In spite of a resounding victory over Notre Dame, the Sunday papers were full of rumors that he would still be canned. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBr002742 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F432@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:29:59 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB82Txx04399 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:29:59 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:29:54 PST Message-ID: <20031208022954.83662.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:29:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312080222.hB82Mux03900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It was in "our neck" this week! The SU football > team, which has been > decidedly lackluster the last two years, surprised > everyone by not finishing > 5-5 when they won the last game of the season, > energized (I surmise) by the > rumors that their coach, universally admired as a > good guy, might be fired > over losing seasons. In spite of a resounding > victory over Notre Dame, the > Sunday papers were full of rumors that he would > still be canned. Congratulations on the win! I hope the coach doesn't get canned, there are not nearly enough good guys in the game these days. > > clo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBs002742 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:30:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:30:56 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Uux04478 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:30:56 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ac.1debe9eb (4529) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:30:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ac.1debe9eb.2d053c56@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:30:46 EST Subject: found trace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Trace Beaulieu is one of the writers of AFV (which used to be known as America's Funniest Home Videos) Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZFBp002749 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F42E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:27:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:27:25 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB82RPx04265 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:27:25 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:27:20 PST Message-ID: <20031208022720.4519.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Amazing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD3DDC1.8000204@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > [name deleted -- same person as above] wrote at > 5:46 p.m. on Sunday, > > December 7: > > > >> How do I identify the sentence pattern of > clauses? > > > > The same way you identify sentence patterns in > sentences, just as > > we've discussed and gone over and over and over in > class. Perhaps if > > you had bothered to come to class, you would have > a clue. I simply do NOT know how teachers have the patience. I mean, someone has provided this student with this opportunity, and she lets it whiz by her without a sidelong glance! Botheration! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBt002742 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F43A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:32:09 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB82W9x04620 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:32:09 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:32:03 PST Message-ID: <20031208023203.33247.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:32:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: found trace To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1ac.1debe9eb.2d053c56@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Trace Beaulieu is one of the writers of AFV (which > used to be known > as America's Funniest Home Videos) > Aha! Good work, Evelyn. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBr002741 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F428@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:21:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 365972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:21:36 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82BHx02182 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:11:17 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu ([66.156.166.87]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208021111.MATL1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ra.msstate.edu> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3DDC1.8000204@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 20:11:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Amazing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU These two notes were from a student in my Descriptive English Grammar class, a class having its final exam at 8 a.m. tomorrow, plus make-up time for those who missed previous tests. This person missed test three. In fact, I don't think she's been in class at all since sometime before test three. She's not dumb, but she just doesn't bother to make it to class. And her sending me this e-mail this afternoon was what I would call dumb. Here are my replies to her two notes. > [name deleted] wrote on 3:38 p.m. Sunday, December 7: > >> Ms. Maynor, >> I need the answers to the TEST 3 review sheet. Can you email them to >> me? Thanks. >> >> I. adverbials >> II. adjectival >> III. relative clauses and antecedents >> IV. label nominals >> V. sentence patterns of underlined phrases > > If you had asked a day or two ago, I would have been happy to e-mail > the answers to you. But there's no way I can now. I don't have a > copy at home. > [name deleted -- same person as above] wrote at 5:46 p.m. on Sunday, > December 7: > >> How do I identify the sentence pattern of clauses? > > The same way you identify sentence patterns in sentences, just as > we've discussed and gone over and over and over in class. Perhaps if > you had bothered to come to class, you would have a clue. -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:35:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82ZCBp002740 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:35:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F430@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:29:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:29:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Tax04366 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:29:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB82TZW1009567 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:29:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB82TYWq009553; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:29:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031207183147.00a408f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:32:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Amazing In-Reply-To: <3FD3DDC1.8000204@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:11 PM 12/7/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>The same way you identify sentence patterns in sentences, just as >>we've discussed and gone over and over and over in class. Perhaps if >>you had bothered to come to class, you would have a clue. Good for you! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82bfBp002780 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F448@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:35:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 366595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:35:47 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82Zlx05045 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:35:47 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a7.39a5159a (4529) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:35:37 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:35:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] found trace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 8:32:14 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Trace Beaulieu is one of the writers of AFV (which > used to be known > as America's Funniest Home Videos) > Aha! Good work, Evelyn. >> Never would have found it if I didn't like kitty videos so much. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:57:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82vZBp002983 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:57:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F4BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 367193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:55:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82jhx06891 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:45:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB82iV61000419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:44:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:45:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <10c.2d28d07a.2d04d3fa@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <10c.2d28d07a.2d04d3fa@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: [deleted] Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you offered as your own is all over the web. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 20:58:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB82w6Bp002989 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 20:58:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F4A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 21:56:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 367597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:56:11 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB82uBx08023 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:56:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208025606.OOUW1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:56:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3E847.8090704@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 20:56:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow References: <200312080222.hB82Mux03900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312080222.hB82Mux03900@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > rumors that their coach, universally admired as a good guy, might be fired Speaking of good-guy coaches, there was a great picture in today's Starkville Daily News of our new football coach at last night's basketball game leading Bully, the dog, out onto the floor at half-time. Supposedly the crowd went wild. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:05:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB835vBp003089 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:05:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020C793@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:04:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 367860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:03:27 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB833Rx08871 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:03:27 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:03:22 PST Message-ID: <20031208030322.12660.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: found trace To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Never would have found it if I didn't like kitty > videos so much. You have a keen eye for credits. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:06:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB836KBp003092 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:06:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F4DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:04:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 367878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:04:29 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB834Tx08927 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:04:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208030423.ORWK1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:04:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3EA39.1040200@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:04:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Amazing References: <20031208022720.4519.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031208022720.4519.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I simply do NOT know how teachers have the patience. I tell the students on day one that their missing class is their problem -- that I don't "take off points" for missing class since that strikes me as something more appropriate for elementary school, but that if they miss, it's their responsibility to figure out what they missed and do something about it. I should add that if this student had been in class in the past however long and had asked me for the answers to that practice test today, I would have gone to my office and found the test and e-mailed her the answers. Iow, I do go out of my way to help students when I think it is appropriate to do so. But I feel no sympathy for or reason to help a student who simply hasn't bothered to care until the day before the exam. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:06:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB836OBp003096 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:06:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F4C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:04:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 367882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:04:33 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB834Xx08932 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:04:33 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:04:27 PST Message-ID: <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:04:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > [deleted] > > Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you > offered as your own is > all over the web. I think she meant it as a chain letter type of thing, but, of course, I cannot speak for her. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:11:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83AwBp003162 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:11:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F4E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:09:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:09:06 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8396x09344 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:09:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208030901.OTOF1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:09:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3EB4E.2040509@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:09:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Sucky Site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It didn't really come as a surprise to me that that cute picture I mentioned while ago isn't on the SDN webpage -- the picture of Croom and Bully. It is a very, very lame site. It has the accompanying article but no picture: http://www.starkvilledailynews.com/articles/2003/12/07/sports/sports02.txt -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:17:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83HJBp003274 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:17:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F4EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:15:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:15:27 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB83FRx10100 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:15:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.87]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208031522.OVVU1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD3ECCB.2010105@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:15:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough References: <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > wrote: >>Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you >>offered as your own is >>all over the web. > > I think she meant it as a chain letter type of thing, > but, of course, I cannot speak for her. When I got home today and realized how far behind I was in everything, I decided that I should've set nomail and then acted accordingly -- as in I deleted all the backlog of list mail. So I don't know exactly what we're talking about here, but I have seen the "I wish you enough posting" somewhere or another and have assumed that indeed it is a chain letter sort of thing. Though I have not chosen to send it along, my impression has been that it is something one sends along in chains. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83SSBp003353 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:28:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F4ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:16:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:16:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hOQ6M8bvgUFXysJ4PkWJuoXB57VGhW9c@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB83GZx10164 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:16:35 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C11D30615 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E4C23346 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:16:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:16:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Boo Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Anymore, I try as much as possible to forget my birthday. But friends and >>relatives WILL keep reminding me of it. :-) > >GREAT use of positive anymore! > >Bethany Hmm. What makes a positive anymore use "great"? Is it just a matter of using it naturally? I think I've mentioned that I did not grow up as a positive anymore speaker. A few years ago I started hanging out with a couple of p.a. speakers, and started imitating them. What started out as affectation on my part became everyday speech. Ken Miller Assistant Drone Johnson Institute for the Study of Harmless Drudgery From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:28:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83SSBq003353 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:28:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F502@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:25:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:25:18 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB83PHx11002 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:25:17 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:25:12 PST Message-ID: <20031208032512.17597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:25:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sucky Site To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD3EB4E.2040509@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > It didn't really come as a surprise to me that that > cute picture I > mentioned while ago isn't on the SDN webpage -- the > picture of Croom and > Bully. It is a very, very lame site. It has the > accompanying article > but no picture: I sincerely hope this works out well for everyone involved (MSU and Croom). Seems the BB team has a promising start as well. I haven't seen them play yet, it's so early in the season. I can't wait for the season to really get swinging. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:28:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83SSBq003354 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:28:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6F4FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:21:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:21:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB83Lax10599 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:21:36 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-137.gwi.net [216.195.155.137]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB83LYAr026628 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:21:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207221941.02fb4100@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:20:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Parade Pictures In-Reply-To: <3FD3E28E.4040308@maynor.net> References: <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >(Jackson is predominantly >black, so it's not surprising that there would be more blacks than >whites at city events, but I was surprised at how few whites I saw there >-- it's not as if Jackson is 100% black.) > -- Natalie Yes, I was surprised by that in the pictures you posted. I was tempted to make some comment like the one you made in the New Hampshire airport about lily white New England. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:28:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83SSBp003354 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:28:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F512@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:20:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:20:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB83KOx10466 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:20:24 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB83KNkF030826 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 04:20:23 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB83KMta030824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 04:20:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 04:20:22 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Boo Message-ID: <20031208032022.GA30795@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Boo: = = I think I've mentioned that I did not grow up as a positive anymore = speaker. A few years ago I started hanging out with a couple of p.a. = speakers, and started imitating them. What started out as affectation on = my part became everyday speech. = Phil Paxton had one the other day that stopped me cold. Not sure why. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83TPBp003370 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:29:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F521@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:27:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:27:33 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB83RXx11230 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:27:33 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:27:28 PST Message-ID: <20031208032728.82594.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Boo To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > Hmm. What makes a positive anymore use "great"? Is > it just a matter of > using it naturally? > > I think I've mentioned that I did not grow up as a > positive anymore > speaker. A few years ago I started hanging out with > a couple of p.a. > speakers, and started imitating them. What started > out as affectation on > my part became everyday speech. And I have learned another lesson. I never really thought about it before. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 21:32:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB83WFBp003426 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:32:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6F526@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:30:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 368752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:30:19 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB83UJx11479 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:30:19 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.174.23ae3b01 (4262) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <174.23ae3b01.2d054a3c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:30:04 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] found trace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 9:04:12 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Never would have found it if I didn't like kitty > videos so much. You have a keen eye for credits. >> If they're not squeezed or rushed by networks who try to get every advertising dollar out of the programs they show. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 22:04:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB844XBp003800 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:04:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020C851@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 22:52:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 369651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:52:40 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB83qex14007 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:52:40 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:52:34 PST Message-ID: <20031208035234.48749.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 19:52:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: found trace To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <174.23ae3b01.2d054a3c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > If they're not squeezed or rushed by networks who > try to get > every advertising dollar out of the programs they > show. Chris and I have discussed the fact that there is little point in showing credits at all. I'm surprised the various unions haven't squealed to high heaven about it. I also think every film maker should be required to show the title of the movie in the last frame. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 7 22:16:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB84GFBp003938 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:16:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6F791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 7 Dec 2003 23:14:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 372450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:14:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB844Nx16612 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:04:23 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB843A61015464 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:03:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you >> offered as your own is >> all over the web. > >I think she meant it as a chain letter type of thing, >but, of course, I cannot speak for her. If she did, she should have indicated that in some way - if she wanted to be honest. I have never seen a chain letter - sent as a chain letter - that did not make clear that it was not an original composition. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 00:31:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB86VMBp005902 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 00:31:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6FA40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 1:29:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:29:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB86TQx31856 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:29:26 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7a.4c86d819 (17228) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:29:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:29:17 EST Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 8:55:52 PM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you offered as your own >is >all over the web. > >Bethany > Sorry if I copied something illegally. It was my baby girl that send it to me, and I thought it was so moving that I send it on to you all. I never understood these rules that you have here. Where I come from the only time you're not allowed to copy, is when it says "copy protected". Forgive me? Theo PS Spend some time on a Dutch board, and no name for the newest princes yet! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 00:38:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB86cJBp005988 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 00:38:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6FA3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 1:36:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:36:26 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB86aPx32485 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:36:25 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.d5.bb152f (17228) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:36:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:36:16 EST Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 10:14:26 PM, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: >If she did, she should have indicated that in some way - if she wanted >to >be honest. > Allright, if it's that offensive, I take it back.I'll never post something I thought you'd all appreciate ever again. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 01:00:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB870ZBp006370 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:00:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020CD33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 1:58:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 380810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:58:41 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB86wfx01630 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:58:41 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120806583201400dle4ge>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:58:34 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207225625.04bfef40@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 23:01:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: References: <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031208030427.12977.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >If she did, she should have indicated that in some way - if she wanted to >be honest. Yikes, Bethany, I'm surprised. It was so clearly a forwarded piece I didn't even bother to Google it to find out, and I Google pretty much anything. I thought it was a sweet piece, Theo -- thanks for forwarding it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 01:24:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB87OQBp006728 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 01:24:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020CDAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 2:12:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 382280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:12:31 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB87CVx04378 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:12:31 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.94.40d1909d (14374) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:12:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <94.40d1909d.2d057e57@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:12:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] found trace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/7/2003 9:52:55 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Chris and I have discussed the fact that there is little point in showing credits at all. >> They have to show the credits, but there's no rule on how they show them. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 02:52:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB88qGBp008155 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:52:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FBAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 3:40:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 03:40:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB88eKx11360 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 03:40:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB88e7rm028341 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:40:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:40:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <404664713.20031208024015@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > Sorry if I copied something illegally. It was my baby girl that send it to > me, and I thought it was so moving that I send it on to you all. I never > understood these rules that you have here. Where I come from the only time you're not > allowed to copy, is when it says "copy protected". Forgive me? Theo All e-mail is automatically "copy protected" by the author, whether it says it or not. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 02:52:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB88qGBp008156 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:52:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FBAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 3:42:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 384331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 03:42:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB88gox11485 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 03:42:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB88g1KX005866 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:42:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:42:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <24671871.20031208024256@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: found trace In-Reply-To: <94.40d1909d.2d057e57@aol.com> References: <94.40d1909d.2d057e57@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 12/7/2003 9:52:55 PM Central Standard Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > Chris and I have discussed the fact that there is > little point in showing credits at all. >>> > They have to show the credits, but there's no rule on how they > show them. I don't think that's entirely true. For movies, I believe there's a rule about how fast the names can scroll by. Don't know about TV. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 05:37:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8BbXBp010643 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:37:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FCF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 6:35:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:35:38 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8BZcx21773 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:35:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.241]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208113533.FTYE1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:35:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD46206.9050403@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:35:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Boo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > speakers, and started imitating them. What started out as affectation on > my part became everyday speech. That happened to me with crossing my 7's. I started doing it occasionally as something that I guess I would call affectation. It was sort of funny feeling and cute feeling or something. The more I did it, the more I got used to it, and suddenly I reached a point when it is so natural for me and seems so clear and reasonable that I can't bring myself to write an uncrossed 7. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 05:45:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8BjdBp010814 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:45:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FD07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 6:43:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:43:38 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Bhbx22455 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:43:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.241]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208114332.FVAA1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:43:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD463E6.10000@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:43:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Parade Pictures References: <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031208022026.81326.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031207221941.02fb4100@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031207221941.02fb4100@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> (Jackson is predominantly >> black, so it's not surprising that there would be more blacks than >> whites at city events, but I was surprised at how few whites I saw there >> -- it's not as if Jackson is 100% black.) >> -- Natalie > > Yes, I was surprised by that in the pictures you posted. I was tempted to > make some comment like the one you made in the New Hampshire airport about > lily white New England. I'm used to certain settings that are almost all black, but I hadn't thought of a xmas parade as one of them. I guess one reason may be that it was city-sponsored and included floats or cars or whatever representing various city departments. Most of the city officials, both elected and non-elected are black. But I was surprised that there were no bands etc. from some of the racist academies. I saw one float for a Catholic school, so it was obviously not limited to the city schools. Various of the 'burbs have their own parades. I saw a long list of parades in the paper for places like Ridgeland, Madison, Clinton, etc. etc. But there are some white people living in Jackson itself. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 05:49:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8BndBp010890 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:49:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6FD1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 6:47:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 387820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:47:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Blix22692 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:47:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.241]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208114739.FVNY1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:47:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD464DC.8090603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:47:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sucky Site References: <20031208032512.17597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031208032512.17597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I sincerely hope this works out well for everyone > involved (MSU and Croom). Me too. I worry that people's expectations are going to be too high -- that they'll be expecting instant miracles. Croom keeps warning the fans that patience will be needed. > Seems the BB team has a > promising start as well. I haven't seen them play > yet, it's so early in the season. I can't wait for > the season to really get swinging. Yes, it's still creampuff season (a term I learned here on Words-L for the teams a basketball team plays before xmas). We are undefeated, I think, against the creampuffs, but real opponents will be quite another matter. It's a shame that Travis Outlaw, the Starkville High School super-star who was seriously considering coming here, decided to go on to play professional basketball straight from hs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 06:17:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8CH3Bp011348 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 06:17:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FD4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 7:15:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 388417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:15:08 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8CF7x10769 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:15:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.15a.292e1606 (18403) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <15a.292e1606.2d05c53e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:14:54 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] found trace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 2:42:58 AM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << I don't think that's entirely true. For movies, I believe there's a rule about how fast the names can scroll by. Don't know about TV. >> That's what I was talking about: TV. I've seen credits squeezed, sped up, even converted to plain text with the ending music totally eliminated as they show commercials on the larger part of the screen. When I want to really see the end credits, I get the movie. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 07:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8DEUBp012225 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:14:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FE0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 8:08:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 390232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:08:12 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8D8Cx15794 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:08:12 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 08:08:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 08:07:59 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB8DEUBp012225 no prticular importance in this culture but I just always assumed that it was a piece of information most people would know and was suddenly wondering if my assumption was wrong BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 12/05/03 04:24PM >>> --- bonniev wrote: > > > > > Don't most adults already know the day of the > week on which they > > > were born? > > > BrP > > bonnie What am I missing? Does some importance attach to this information? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 07:14:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8DEUBp012224 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:14:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6FE0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 8:02:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 389501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:02:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8CqXx14018 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:52:33 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8CpL61011888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:51:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:52:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >Sorry if I copied something illegally. It was my baby girl that send it to >me, and I thought it was so moving that I send it on to you all. I never >understood these rules that you have here. Where I come from the only time you're not >allowed to copy, is when it says "copy protected". Forgive me? Theo >PS Spend some time on a Dutch board, and no name for the newest princes yet! Theo, you did not, so far as I know, anything illegally. What you did was send under your own name a piece of text composed by someone else - without indicating that you were not claiming authorship. There are many ways to indicate that one is sending text composed by someone else - quote marks, <>, a brief note, etc. When my students do what you did, I have to fail them and consider disciplinary action. Did it really not occur to you to add a note saying that you were forwarding a piece composed by another person? Of course, the style was so different from your writing style that that was reasonably clear to your readers - but still, it is your obligation. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 07:27:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8DRnBp012445 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:27:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020D1A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 8:25:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 390722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:25:53 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8DPrx18049 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:25:53 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:25:47 PST Message-ID: <20031208132547.81873.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:25:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Sorry if I copied something illegally. It was my > baby girl that send it to > me, and I thought it was so moving that I send it on > to you all. I never > understood these rules that you have here. Where I > come from the only time you're not > allowed to copy, is when it says "copy protected". > Forgive me? Theo > PS Spend some time on a Dutch board, and no name for > the newest princes yet! It's okay with me, Theo. I'm sure you meant no harm, but one does have to be careful about protecting the creative rights of others. Surely it won't be too long before we hear an announcement of the new princess' name. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 07:31:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8DVwBp012516 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:31:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A6FE5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 8:30:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 390821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:30:02 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8DU1x18783 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:30:01 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:29:55 PST Message-ID: <20031208132955.83088.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:29:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Parade Pictures To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD463E6.10000@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: But I was > surprised that there were > no bands etc. from some of the racist academies. I > saw one float for a > Catholic school, so it was obviously not limited to > the city schools. > Various of the 'burbs have their own parades. I saw > a long list of > parades in the paper for places like Ridgeland, > Madison, Clinton, etc. > etc. But there are some white people living in > Jackson itself. I also noticed the foremost banner read "Holiday Parade", rather than Christmas Parade. I suppose it's PC to make it all inclusive. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 07:33:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8DXcBp012546 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:33:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A6FE46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 8:31:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 390869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:31:42 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8DVgx19053 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:31:42 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:31:36 PST Message-ID: <20031208133136.18453.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:31:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Sucky Site To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD464DC.8090603@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: It's a shame that Travis Outlaw, the > Starkville High School > super-star who was seriously considering coming > here, decided to go on > to play professional basketball straight from hs. 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EN9Bp013302 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:23:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6FF78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:11:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 393775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:11:12 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8EBBx26416 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:11:11 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8EBAkF031737 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:10 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8EB9KG031735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:09 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough Message-ID: <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: = = >Sorry if I copied something illegally. It was my baby girl that send it to = >me, and I thought it was so moving that I send it on to you all. I never = >understood these rules that you have here. Where I come from the only = time you're not >allowed to copy, is when it says "copy protected". = Forgive me? Theo >PS Spend some time on a Dutch board, and no name for the = newest princes yet! = = Theo, you did not, so far as I know, anything illegally. What you = did was send under your own name a piece of text composed by someone else = - without indicating that you were not claiming authorship. There are many = ways to indicate that one is sending text composed by someone else - quote = marks, <>, a brief note, etc. = = When my students do what you did, I have to fail them and consider = disciplinary action. = = Did it really not occur to you to add a note saying that you were = forwarding a piece composed by another person? Of course, the style was so = different from your writing style that that was reasonably clear to your = readers - but still, it is your obligation. = = Bethany The lady doth protest too much, methinks. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:23:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8ENcBp013306 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:23:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A6FFE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:21:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 394678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:21:42 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8ELgx28165 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:21:42 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-152.gwi.net [216.195.155.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB8ELdGp091555; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:21:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208092113.00b32d98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:21:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:11 PM 12/8/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Indeed. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:30:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EUOBp013413 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:30:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020D362@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:28:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:28:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8ESSx29422 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:28:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020D35D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:28:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312081428.hB8ESSx29422@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:28:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>> Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you >> offered as your >own is >> all over the web. >> >>I think she meant it as a chain letter type of thing, >but, of course, I >cannot speak for her. > >If she did, she should have indicated that in some way - if she wanted to >be honest. > >I have never seen a chain letter - sent as a chain letter - that did not >make clear that it was not an original composition. > >Bethany I've noticed a couple of people seem to use programs that truncate attributions (from lines) on this . I can usually pick out what's going on, as in this case, so I haven't mentioned it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:32:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EWIBp013437 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:32:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020D36C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:30:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8EULx29880 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:30:21 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:29:50 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: clueless review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB8EWIBp013437 re: Amahl and the Night Visitors she liked it but... http://tinyurl.com/y8es BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:33:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EXkBp013449 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:33:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70036@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:31:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:31:50 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8EVox30174 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:31:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPK00EZ3Z115H@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:27:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:27:35 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: found trace To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When I want to really see the end credits, I get the movie. Did anyone see the credits for Angels in America last night? I can't believe that the rabbi was Meryl Streep. I had read that we wouldn't believe who played the rabbi, but my guess was John Turturro (sp?). Also re Angels in America -- it was supposed to be set in the mid-eighties, yet the phrase "politically correct" was used. *uc* and I thought that was a little early -- we thought it was an early nineties phrase. Anyone know different? IMFTATL. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:34:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EYLBp013462 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:34:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70020@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:32:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:32:24 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8EWOx30329 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:32:24 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:32:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:32:02 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: I wish you enough Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB8EYLBp013462 I liked the story and am glad that Theo sent it. It has a good message. BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/08/03 09:28AM >>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>> Theo, was your plagiarism deliberate? The text you >> offered as your >own is >> all over the web. >> >>I think she meant it as a chain letter type of thing, >but, of course, I >cannot speak for her. > >If she did, she should have indicated that in some way - if she wanted to >be honest. > >I have never seen a chain letter - sent as a chain letter - that did not >make clear that it was not an original composition. > >Bethany I've noticed a couple of people seem to use programs that truncate attributions (from lines) on this . I can usually pick out what's going on, as in this case, so I haven't mentioned it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EgKBp013558 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:42:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:40:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 396305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:40:23 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8EeNx32314 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:40:23 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPK00M0GZF4VK@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:36:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:36:02 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: bah humbug To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <125896120873.120873125896@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Anyone catch -Bad Santa- yet? It's directed by the guy who made > >Crumb and Ghost World. I enjoyed it, though I ordinarily can't stand > >Billy Bob Thornton. Don't take the kids, it's not a sweet, sappy > >Christmas flick though some redemption-type stuff creeps in at > >the very end. Until then there's profanity and booze and rudeness > >and lotsa gross-out humor. Terry Zwigoff is da man. I was happy for the redemption part. I find drunkard movies (a la Leaving Las Vegas, The Lost Weekend -- "I'm not a drinker--I'm a drunk." ) very depressing. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:43:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8Eh5Bp013568 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:43:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70078@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 395329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:41:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8EV8x29985 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:31:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8ETt61004495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:29:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: >The lady doth protest too much, methinks. LOL! I ain't protested at all yet! I merely asked a question - was the plagiarism deliberate? I still don't know whether it was ... probably never will. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:51:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EpNBp013700 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:51:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7010F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:49:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 397633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:49:22 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8EnDx02600 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:49:21 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8En7kF031792 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:07 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8En6O5031790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:06 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough Message-ID: <20031208144906.GB31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: = = >The lady doth protest too much, methinks. = = LOL! I ain't protested at all yet! I merely asked a question - was the = plagiarism deliberate? I still don't know whether it was ... probably = never will. = = Bethany When did you stop beating your wife? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 08:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8EwOBp013787 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:58:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7017E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:56:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 398834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:56:28 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8EuRx05143 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:56:27 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8EuQkF031812 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:56:26 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8EuQWG031810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:56:26 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:56:26 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough Message-ID: <20031208145626.GC31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: = = >The lady doth protest too much, methinks. = = LOL! I ain't protested at all yet! I merely asked a question - was the = plagiarism deliberate? I still don't know whether it was ... probably = never will. = = Bethany And what's the reason you're not asking me the same question? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:00:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8F03Bp013833 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:00:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7016D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 9:58:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 398969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:58:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Ew6x05481 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:58:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-152.gwi.net [216.195.155.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB8Ew4Gp098820; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:58:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208095613.00b3a6b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:57:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: found trace In-Reply-To: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:27 AM 12/8/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >Also re Angels in America -- it was supposed to be set in the >mid-eighties, yet the phrase "politically correct" was used. *uc* and I >thought that was a little early -- we thought it was an early nineties >phrase. Anyone know different? IMFTATL. It seems to me that it arose in the early or mid-80s, although it might not have become "universal" until later. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:06:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8F66Bp013887 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:06:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A701E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 398580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:04:10 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Es9x04573 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:54:10 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8Eqw61013318 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:52:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:54:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <20031208144906.GB31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208144906.GB31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: >When did you stop beating your wife? You're making my day! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:13:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FDKBp013953 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:13:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7021D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:11:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 399337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:11:12 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8F1Bx06299 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:01:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8F0061016059 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:00:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <20031208145626.GC31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208145626.GC31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: >And what's the reason you're not asking me the same question? I love non sequiturs! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:25:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FP6Bp014090 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:25:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70291@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:23:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:23:10 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8FNAx11327 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:23:10 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8FN3Ts5316808 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:23:04 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:23:03 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! Is the Dutch royal family a band of degenerates like the Brits? -- Richard, man, did USC get screwed, or *what*? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:26:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FQtBp014115 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:26:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A702A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:24:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 401688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:24:58 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8FOvx11646 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:24:57 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8FOpTs7086200 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:24:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:24:51 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Parade Pictures In-Reply-To: <20031208132955.83088.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031208132955.83088.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > I also noticed the foremost banner read "Holiday > Parade", rather than Christmas Parade. I suppose it's > PC to make it all inclusive. Yeah, City Park's "Christmas in the Oaks" has been "Celebration in the Oaks" for a few years now. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FZcBp014284 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:35:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A702E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:33:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 402562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:33:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8FXex13802 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:33:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB8FWpKX001390 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:32:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:33:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <774329800.20031208093347@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > What you did was send under your own name a piece of text composed > by someone else - without indicating that you were not claiming > authorship. How could anyone think that Theo wrote that?! > Did it really not occur to you to add a note saying that you were > forwarding a piece composed by another person? Of course, the style was so > different from your writing style that that was reasonably clear to your > readers - but still, it is your obligation. I think it's your obligation to pull that stick out of your ass. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:42:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FgeBp014384 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:42:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70322@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:40:43 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Fegx15117 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:40:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB8FdsKX008972 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:39:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:40:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1983612763.20031208094050@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clueless review In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > re: Amahl and the Night Visitors Incredibly clumsily written. I think my favorite sentence is "Their heads are adorned with crowns and clothes." I shall henceforth think of you thus. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FkGBp014464 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:46:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70344@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:44:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 403370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:44:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8FiJx15824 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:44:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB8Fi6rm007958 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:44:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:44:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <386852233.20031208094415@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: found trace In-Reply-To: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> References: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > Did anyone see the credits for Angels in America last night? I can't > believe that the rabbi was Meryl Streep. I had read that we wouldn't > believe who played the rabbi, but my guess was John Turturro (sp?). I knew this--I saw her on some talk show talking about it. Whoever interviewed her asked her if it was hard, and she said laughed and said it was amazingly easy. I gather that she had 3 roles in this. > Also re Angels in America -- it was supposed to be set in the > mid-eighties, yet the phrase "politically correct" was used. *uc* > and I thought that was a little early -- we thought it was an early > nineties phrase. Anyone know different? IMFTATL. I think it's earlier than early 90's. I don't think mid-80's is far off. I know that Karsten went to see the play in Portland in the mid-90's, which means that it had been around for a while. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:56:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FuEBp014611 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:56:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A703E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:54:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 404754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:54:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8FsHS19204 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:54:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8FsF2f002109 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:54:15 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8FsEJC002070; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:54:15 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031208074844.00b77270@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 07:49:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:11 PM 12/8/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Indeed. Everyone picks on her so I guess it's her turn. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 09:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8FwCBp014647 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:58:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A703D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 404916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8FuFS19644 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:56:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8FuEeO029380 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:56:14 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8FuCa2029361; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 07:56:13 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031208075053.00b84c38@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 07:51:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: References: <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >-- >Richard, man, did USC get screwed, or *what*? Yes! Cal did beat them, however. :-) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:04:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8G41Bp014780 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:04:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70429@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:02:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 405613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:02:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XiiK9vMCH94a18mbO+28x57xLf2zpP4Y@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8G24S21334 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:02:04 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9E5306A3 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FE823346 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:02:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:01:55 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: found trace Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Also re Angels in America -- it was supposed to be set in the >mid-eighties, yet the phrase "politically correct" was used. *uc* and I >thought that was a little early -- we thought it was an early nineties >phrase. Anyone know different? IMFTATL. > >Marie I didn't hear the phrase until the early nineties, either. But: The a capella group The Bobs used "politically correct" as the refrain of their song "Please Let Me Be Your Third-World Country". The Bobs' website has the lyrics; the copyright date is 1984. So it was an 80s phrase, at least in some parts of the country; The Bobs, of course, have always been a San Francisco-based group. Ken Miller Archivist and Assistant Phonometrographer Satie Institute for Phonometrographic Research From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:16:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8GGMBp014996 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:16:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7047B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:14:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 406420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:14:25 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8GEPS23960 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:14:25 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPL00LJG3R89F@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:09:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:09:47 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: found trace To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <11db1c122633.12263311db1c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I knew this--I saw her on some talk show talking about it. Whoever > interviewed her asked her if it was hard, and she said laughed and > said it was amazingly easy. I gather that she had 3 roles in this. Yes. Several of the actors played multiple roles. Emma Thompson as a crazed homeless person was pretty good too. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:22:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8GM4Bp015068 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:22:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A704E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:20:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:19:48 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8GJmS25478 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:19:48 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPL00CLL40KR4@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:15:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:15:33 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <13129612df56.12df56131296@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In the meantime, I think I'll have > another chocolate-covered cherry. I chocolate-covered cherries. The liquid ones over the cream ones. How'd the cellulite smoothing panties work out? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:23:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8GNnBp015122 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:23:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A704E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:21:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 407551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:21:52 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8GLqS26035 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:21:52 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:21:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:21:43 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Molly makes her choice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB8GNnBp015122 If you haven't read Molly Ivins today, take a look at: http://tinyurl.com/26zq She likes our guy Natalie! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:39:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8GdQBp015329 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:39:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70577@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 408864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8GbRS29192 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:37:27 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8GbNkF032041 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:37:23 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8GbMd1032039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:37:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:37:22 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Message-ID: <20031208163722.GA32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = steph: = > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a = > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! = = Is the Dutch royal family a band of = degenerates like the Brits? = No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. They're not inbred, fwiw. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:48:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8GmFBp015421 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:48:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A705FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 409898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:46:18 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8GkHS31043 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:46:17 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8GkGkF032063 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:46:16 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8GkGHZ032061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:46:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:46:16 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough Message-ID: <20031208164616.GB32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208145626.GC31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: = = >And what's the reason you're not asking me the same question? = = I love non sequiturs! = = Bethany Thanks for deleting all my context. Anyway, why are you not asking me if I am plagarist, when I wrote something that was obviously not in my usual style and claimed it as my own? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 10:50:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8GopBp015439 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:50:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7060F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 410030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:48:53 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8GmrS31384 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:48:53 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8GmpkF032082 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:48:51 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8GmpVI032080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:48:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:48:51 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I wish you enough Message-ID: <20031208164851.GC32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208144906.GB31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, steph wrote: = = >When did you stop beating your wife? = = You're making my day! = = Bethany I'm not protesting, I'm merely asking a question. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 11:04:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8H4iBp015682 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:04:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70673@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:02:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 411419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:02:47 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8H2lS02341 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:02:47 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPL00MVC60HDN@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:58:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:58:32 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: found trace To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <12a6a2127f5e.127f5e12a6a2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Bookrat >> The a capella group The Bobs used "politically correct" as the > refrain of > their song "Please Let Me Be Your Third-World Country". The Bobs' > websitehas the lyrics; the copyright date is 1984. So it was an > 80s phrase, at > least in some parts of the country; The Bobs, of course, have > always been a > San Francisco-based group. A search of newsgroups on google comes up with a 1981 use. From: G:kirk (G:kirk) Subject: Yet Another Camel Joke Newsgroups: net.jokes Date: 1981-12-14 22:29:12 PST Why do they call camels "Ships-of-the-desert" ? tick. tick.. tick... tick.... tick..... TIMES UP! Because they're full of Iranian seamen. (NOW, being politically correct you must, of course, substitute "martian" What a clever joke this becomes! Hopefully, there are no martians listening. ) Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 12:04:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8I43Bp016675 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:04:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:02:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 415075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:02:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Hq5S10203 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:52:05 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8Horm9015427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:50:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Boo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >>GREAT use of positive anymore! >> > >Hmm. What makes a positive anymore use "great"? Is it just a matter of >using it naturally? Yes, that's what I meant. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:22:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JMbBp017862 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:22:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70B51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 423077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:39 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8JKcS27150 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:38 -0500 Received: (qmail 12873 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 19:20:36 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2003 19:20:36 -0000 Received: from FALCON-195.isc.upenn.edu (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB41F64 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:36 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1070911236!327412 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20031208142006.00ba59c8@pobox.upenn.edu> X-Sender: plotkina@pobox.upenn.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:20:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Alec D. Plotkin" Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206093830.00a2be40@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:43 AM 12/6/2003 -0800, you wrote: >At 10:14 AM 12/6/2003 -0700, John Williams wrote: >> > No shoveling here. >> > Betty >> >>Pretty light in the GMA as well. I think the 70F temperature may have >>something to do with it... > >Life is hard. Lorinda, Kevin, and Ryan are all going to fly to the Insite >Bowl Christmas Day. They put together a package for the three of them much >cheaper than what was being offered by university. Go, Bears! > >Betty Nice try Betty, Insight is the bowl game. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JW2Bp018042 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:32:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020DEB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 424069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:30:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JTxS29400 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:29:59 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:29:53 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7790D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:29:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:50 PM > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:21:50 -0500, Phil Paxton > wrote: > > >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:46 PM > > > >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 Phil wrote: > >> > >> >= way, I have one clean hand. And I don't eat sandwiches by > >> picking them > >> up. > >> >= I use utensils for those as well. > >> > >> But which hand, my friend, ?!!! > > > >It doesn't matter. This has come up before. I'm a primary > ambidextrous. > >Sometimes it depends upon which side of the plate the fork > is on, other > >times it depends upon which side I'm catching an elbow from. > I'm able to > >accommodate. But when I use fork & knife, I do eat European style. My > mother > >does not remember me eating any other way. > > It may not matter to you; but there are some who would be > interested to > know which hand it is you . I keep both hands clean. Only one of them actually touches the food. I also generally go wash my hands immediately after eating this style so I can go back to eating the regular fashion. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JYIBp018055 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70BD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:30:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 424122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:30:39 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JUcS29551 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:30:38 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:30:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7790E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:30:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh. I already made my list. Add asparagus to the list. > -----Original Message----- > From: mene tekel parsin [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:55 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Two things > > > dash space D period space M period colon: > > I'm just plain curious. Name some things > > that taste so bad to you. > > You asked Phil, and I'm not Phil, but I'll > take this opportunity. > > I am physically unable to eat asparagus. It > triggers my gag reflex, for some reason. > > -- > Richard > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JYIBp018053 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70B97@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 423731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:26:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f18.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JQZS28475 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:26:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:26:29 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.252 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:26:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.252] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Boo Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:26:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2003 19:26:29.0566 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E103DE0:01C3BDC1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany: >GREAT use of positive anymore! GREAT?!? why? I hadn't really noticed positive anymore until Bookrat's Great American wordslur tour (1996 ?) when we first discussed it on this service. After that, I've been hearing it (and slowly using it) often enough that I rarely register it and no longer remark on its presence. It seems to be used a lot more now and not just by me. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JYIBp018054 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70BBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:28:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 423938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:28:28 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JSSS29077 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:28:28 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:28:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7790C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: The Dean Machine Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:28:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Before long, I guess we'll hear him using his use of his M.D. to eliminate the need for health care plans...he'll heal the sick, raise the dead and feed the 5'000. Yesterday's NYTimes magazine had "The Dean Swarm" on the cover: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/07/magazine/07DEAN.html (free registration) Last February, Clay Johnson, 26, took a trip from Atlanta to the Dominican Republic to visit his girlfriend, Merrill, who was studying linguistics at a university there. He carried an engagement ring in his pocket, but when he arrived, he said, Merrill was cold and distant, and he never gave it to her. Before he left, Merrill told him that she didn't love him anymore. He returned to his apartment in Atlanta, where he worked as a freelance technology consultant. His place was also serving as a storage space for Merrill's possessions, in boxes, and as a temporary home for her two cats. He was allergic to the cats. He stripped to his underwear, lay on the floor in a fetal position and remained there for days, occasionally sipping from an old carton of orange juice. "I was completely obliterated," he says. "I didn't know something like that could actually cause physical pain." Johnson's friends kept calling, trying to think of something that would get him out of the house. Finally they hit on one: Howard Dean. Johnson had been talking about Howard Dean for about a year. He had never voted, but after his mother developed cancer and could no longer afford her health insurance, he became interested in politics. When he looked at the various Democrats running for president, he felt drawn to Dean right away. He liked the health care plan that Dean had instituted in Vermont and his forthright style, and later appreciated Dean's clear opposition to the war in Iraq. At his friends' urging, Johnson attended a Dean gathering last spring. Sixty people showed up, more than could fit in the coffee shop that Meetup.com had selected for them. So they gathered in the parking lot instead. Everyone took a turn saying why he or she liked Howard Dean. Someone handed out Dean stickers, and then people broke up into twos and threes to chat. Johnson spent most of the meeting talking with a young Duke graduate named Julie Reeve, who, he says, was "really smart." She was also, he says, "the most beautiful girl I have ever seen." Johnson didn't think he had much of a chance with Julie Reeve, but at least he had a reason to get up off the floor. He threw himself into the Dean campaign. He began knocking on doors, reading books on precinct districting and setting up databases. He saw Reeve at campaign events, and even went out with her a couple of times apart from their campaign activities, but he couldn't tell if she liked him. In May, the Dean campaign posted a notice on its Web site saying that it needed a programmer familiar with social-network software to work in the headquarters in Burlington, Vt. Johnson quit his job, put the money from Merrill's engagement ring toward a Volkswagen Passat and headed out to Burlington. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JYIBp018052 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70B8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 423343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:18 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JMIS27650 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:18 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:13 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7790B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Two things Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:09 PM > Phil: > can back up as well from my upbringing. Then it's pretty > fun for them > to > > realize that although they don't like it, they're watching > me have to > eat it > > along with them (and not enjoying it *at all*) - and knowing I'm not > > cheating (get a mouthful, wash it down, repeat). > > > I'm just plain curious. Name some things > that taste so bad to you. Holly & I were with my sister and our four nieces while one bowled for state-level Special Olympics (her team got fourth). While we were at supper, my sister reminisced at the things we were forced to eat and how she dealt with the girls. We chose Romano's Macaroni Grill because they're very flexible in the orders ("can I have just the spaghetti noodles with some parmagesan sauce on it?"), a bit more upscale than the ladies are accustomed to, they have huge portions so they could box up the food & get at least one, if not two more meals out of reheating them. I was updated on my doppelganger niece who generally has the same problem when it comes to creating|discovering dunsels, and food (tastes) in general. This is by no means an exhaustive list and it's no particular order: Meat gristle|fat, esp. pork chops & steak - actually, I don't eat a lot of red meat in general and only if it's thoroughly cooked - I don't want to see that a good vet could still save it; sea food (calamari & whatnot in general, fish); broccoli; cauliflower; kale; okra; other cooked veggies (e.g., carrots, celery) when they are in soup or stew, although I like them raw; coconut; mushrooms; anchovies (on pizza, see fish above); cooked tomatoes - i.e., I don't like them as a standalone item but obviously they are in things such as pasta sauce or salsa, etc. which is fine. I just don't like them sliced & cooked as part of a meal. I do, however, like them sliced with mayo & salt on them. Raisins; cooked pineapples; green/bell peppers (although I like jalapenos, serranos, chipotles, and habeneros, all of which make their way into homemade sauces); "egg dishes" although I'll eat scrambled dishes if I'm the one to cook them and I'll eat french toast; melons; beets; eggplant & zucchini (unless they are sliced real thin, dipped in egg, rolled in corn meal, and fried in a skillet with butter); spinach, jeez, when can I stop? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:45:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8Jj7Bp018203 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:45:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70C47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:43:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 425329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:43:08 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8Jh8S32518 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:43:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 9967 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 19:43:07 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-14.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2003 19:43:07 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D215E6F0 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:43:06 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1070912587!328017 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: two feet of snow Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: <004501c3bdc3$80e32cb0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rashmi Murthy >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:13 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: two feet of snow > > >bonnie pleads: > >> Please hang in there >>Bangor >>Power!! It's NFL Sunday!!!! > >Go Iggles! Who's Clyde rooting for? > Amen sister!! alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:50:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JogBp018251 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:50:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70C71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 425732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:48:43 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JmhS01510 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:48:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7790F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Knitting Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:48:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: mene tekel parsin [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:07 PM > ...and since I seem to be on a Phil jag here: > > Phil, you asked about foisting green > ketchup (or was it catsup?) on kids. > "20% DV more vitamin C than our regular > ketchup which has 0% DV vitamin C" > > (DV is "Daily Values") > > My question: How do you over-process > tomatoes so much that they have NO > vitamin C left? > > jeebus. > > Love apples, in their native state, have > more vitamin C than even oranges, don't > they? My guess would be they could be using specific parts of the tomato to make the sauce which do not bear the Vitamin C (or enough measurable) dosage (peel? pulp? seeds?). The same might be true for how they process it - perhaps they add something to it in the processing which causes things to "drop out of the equation" much like a chemistry quiz where you have to guess which metals are in a liquid by adding the correct liquids in the correct order so as to get the metal out of solution without taking others unintentionally. (that's purely speculative) Thinking about love apples, which are indigenous to South America and were taken back to Europe by early explorers (just to add some fun facts to this message), and their potency WRT one vitamin, we were required to participate in a service club's essay contest in high school regarding biological {anything}. I suppose it made the service club feel good they were making us learn something we wouldn't ordinarily do. Then again, if it was so fun & the prizes were so nice, they should have made it extracurricular and every who would think it to be fun and clamoring for the prizes would do so. Unfortunately, they thought they'd get a higher participation rate if they made it a required project in school. When the latter is chosen rather than the former, I know how "fun" it'll be and if they are afraid people won't participate in sizeable numbers for the newspaper to be able to say, "over x'xxx students participated in the Optimist's Biology Contest to attempt to win..." The bottom line is, if they are afraid of sizeable participation, they shouldn't be doing it at all.[1] Anyway, I did mine on the dandelion. Much like the current Total commercial where you'd have to eat four bowls to get all of your {x} than you'd get from {cereal y}. I delved into all of the things one could do if they raised a dandelion farm instead of a tomato, orange, or farms. No extra sprays, weed killers, etc. dose-for-dose times the Vitamin A than tomatos, etc. and that if they went to pick them, there'd be enough of a root system (because it would go down (?) 45" and pop back up) to restart itself. I got third. It was a crummy suede satchel which had "McDonald's" branded into the side. Fortunately, my mom took it and has enjoyed it since. [1] "Okay, everyone bring their toothbrushes tomorrow and we'll all stay after and scrub the bathrooms and have fun together." This is how I have viewed "Let's do" activities. for a long, long time. I'll go to movies & whatnot with people from work, but when it borders on the things I've mentioned... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:54:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JsLBp018317 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:54:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70C98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:52:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:52:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JqMS02389 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:52:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020DF77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:52:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200312081952.hB8JqMS02389@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:52:22 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: found trace To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:57:59 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 09:27 AM 12/8/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > >>Also re Angels in America -- it was supposed to be set in the >>mid-eighties, yet the phrase "politically correct" was used. *uc* and I >>thought that was a little early -- we thought it was an early nineties >>phrase. Anyone know different? IMFTATL. > >It seems to me that it arose in the early or mid-80s, although it might not >have become "universal" until later. > >cwv Politically correct was used in a certain sector to mean "speech consistent with and supportive of personal political beliefs" looong before the 90's - as far back as the 70s. Sometime in the Contract Against America years, it was borrowed as ammunition, claiming a "thought-nazi" mentality which forced people who weren't concerned with the issues to talk in line with someone else's agenda. Ironically, Rush L., who was at the forefront of making "PC" equivalent to "mark of Satan", was very PC according to the original usage - especially when he made vitriolic attacks and slurs which, though unfounded and unfair, represented his politics accurately. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:55:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JtLBp018331 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:55:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70CB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:22 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8JrMS02634 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 23671 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2003 19:53:20 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-18.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2003 19:53:20 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974F8116C for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:20 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-18.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1070913200!324229 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I wish you enough Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:21 -0500 Message-ID: <005401c3bdc4$eea2eb40$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Theo Groothof >Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:36 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: I wish you enough > > >In a message dated 12/7/2003 10:14:26 PM, >dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: > >>If she did, she should have indicated that in some way - if she wanted >>to >>be honest. >> >Allright, if it's that offensive, I take it back.I'll never >post something I thought you'd all appreciate ever again. Theo > Thanks, alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:55:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JtaBp018335 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:55:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70CA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JrcS02677 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020DF56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312081953.hB8JrcS02677@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:53:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:23:03 -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: >steph: >> The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a >> girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! > >Is the Dutch royal family a band of >degenerates like the Brits? > No, but I am clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 13:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8JuZBp018348 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:56:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70CB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:54:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JsbS02812 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:54:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020DF8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:54:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312081954.hB8JsbS02812@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:54:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: clueless review To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:40:50 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, December 08, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> re: Amahl and the Night Visitors > >Incredibly clumsily written. > >I think my favorite sentence is "Their heads are adorned with crowns >and clothes." I shall henceforth think of you thus. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism OK, that does it; I now go to Amahl, to write the real review. Look out, BrP! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:00:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8K0nBp018451 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:00:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020DF7F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:58:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:58:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8JwgS03824 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:58:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB8JwT6X001089 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:58:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:58:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <266464376.20031208135837@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: clueless review In-Reply-To: <200312081954.hB8JsbS02812@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312081954.hB8JsbS02812@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:40:50 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>I think my favorite sentence is "Their heads are adorned with crowns >>and clothes." I shall henceforth think of you thus. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > OK, that does it; I now go to Amahl, to write the real review. > Look out, BrP! I wish you would!! You may have to adorn your head with clothes before you go, though. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8K1GBp018456 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:01:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020DF83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 426580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:59:18 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8JxHS03907 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:59:17 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:59:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:58:43 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: clueless review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB8K1GBp018456 Tell me when you want to see it: Fri 12th at 8 Sat 13th at 8 Sun 14th at 2 Fri 19th at 8 Sat 20th at 2 I'll buy your ticket. I'm serious :-) BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/08/03 02:54PM >>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:40:50 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, December 08, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> re: Amahl and the Night Visitors > >Incredibly clumsily written. > >I think my favorite sentence is "Their heads are adorned with crowns >and clothes." I shall henceforth think of you thus. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism OK, that does it; I now go to Amahl, to write the real review. Look out, BrP! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:12:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KCBBp018584 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:12:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020DFCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:10:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 427321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:10:12 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KACS05840 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:10:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70D2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:10:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312082010.hB8KACS05840@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:10:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Two things To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:02 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Doris Markland [mailto:dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM] >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:09 PM > >> Phil: >> can back up as well from my upbringing. Then it's pretty >> fun for them >> to >> > realize that although they don't like it, they're watching >> me have to >> eat it >> > along with them (and not enjoying it *at all*) - and knowing I'm not >> > cheating (get a mouthful, wash it down, repeat). >> > >> I'm just plain curious. Name some things >> that taste so bad to you. > followed by a long list from Phil.... Have I told yet abt my friend the supertaster? She has perhaps 10x the number of tastebuds I have; and one year she made a NewYears resolution to expand her diet. I asked in November how her year had gone, and she said with hesitation, "well, I eat carrots now". Prior to that, "white" pizza and chicken w/out sauces was abt all I'd ever seen her eat - oh, and junk food of various types. clo clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:13:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KD7Bp018590 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:13:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70D28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 427369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KB8S05991 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8KB6W1021183 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:11:06 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB8KB5Wq021145; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:11:06 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031208120520.00b41ad8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:06:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20031208142006.00ba59c8@pobox.upenn.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031206093830.00a2be40@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:20 PM 12/8/2003 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >At 09:43 AM 12/6/2003 -0800, you wrote: >>At 10:14 AM 12/6/2003 -0700, John Williams wrote: >>> > No shoveling here. >>> > Betty >>> >>>Pretty light in the GMA as well. I think the 70F temperature may have >>>something to do with it... >> >>Life is hard. Lorinda, Kevin, and Ryan are all going to fly to the Insite >>Bowl Christmas Day. They put together a package for the three of them much >>cheaper than what was being offered by university. Go, Bears! >> >>Betty > > >Nice try Betty, Insight is the bowl game. > > >alec Yes, that is the Bowl game that they will be attending on 12/26. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:14:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KEBBp018598 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:14:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70D1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 427448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:12:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KCCS06161 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:12:12 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:12:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77912@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: found trace Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:59 AM > From: Bookrat > >> The a capella group The Bobs used "politically correct" as the > > refrain of > > their song "Please Let Me Be Your Third-World Country". The Bobs' > > websitehas the lyrics; the copyright date is 1984. So it was an > > 80s phrase, at > > least in some parts of the country; The Bobs, of course, have > > always been a > > San Francisco-based group. > > A search of newsgroups on google comes up with a 1981 use. > > From: G:kirk (G:kirk) > Subject: Yet Another Camel Joke > Newsgroups: net.jokes > Date: 1981-12-14 22:29:12 PST > > > Why do they call camels "Ships-of-the-desert" ? > > tick. > > tick.. > > tick... > > tick.... > > tick..... > > TIMES UP! > > Because they're full of Iranian seamen. > > (NOW, being politically correct you must, of course, > substitute "martian" > What a clever joke this becomes! Hopefully, there are no > martians listening. ) What's long, round, wet, hard, and full of seamen? a submarine. What's pink, goes in hard, but comes out soft & wet? A stick of gum What's six inches long, has two nuts, and makes a girl fat? an Almond Joy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:19:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KJFBp018657 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:19:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70D6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 427901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KHES07085 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:07 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77913@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:37 AM > mene tekel parsin: > = steph: > = > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a > = > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! > = > = Is the Dutch royal family a band of > = degenerates like the Brits? > = > > No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. > > They're not inbred, fwiw. So they all[1] became bleeders by coincidence? [1] Okay, not all, just a lot to make one suspicious. And yes, I know it's hemophilia. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KKABp018687 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70D71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 428022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:11 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KHvS07311 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:57 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031208201751016008d9eie>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:17:51 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208114836.03e4c008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:20:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: References: <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >LOL! I ain't protested at all yet! I merely asked a question - was the >plagiarism deliberate? It wasn't even plagiarism; Theo made no affirmative attempt to pass off the work as her own. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:20:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KKOBp018691 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:20:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020E018@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 428075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KINS07431 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:24 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77914@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Dec 8 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:18:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I haven't read everything so far, but if no one has said it already, then a message for the Catholics to enjoy their day of Immaculate Conception. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KM2Bp018707 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:22:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70D7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:20:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 428322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:20:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KK4S07919 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:20:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020E060@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:20:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200312082020.hB8KK4S07919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:20:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:00 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:37 AM > >> mene tekel parsin: >> = steph: >> = > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a >> = > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! >> = >> = Is the Dutch royal family a band of >> = degenerates like the Brits? >> = >> >> No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. >> >> They're not inbred, fwiw. > >So they all[1] became bleeders by coincidence? > >[1] >Okay, not all, just a lot to make one suspicious. >And yes, I know it's hemophilia. I believe this conversation may suffer from antecedent indeterminism. Steph, in "They're not inbred, fwiw", are you referring to the Dutch royal family? Bethany, in "they all [1]" etc., do you mean the Brits royal family? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:47:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8KlBBp019104 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:47:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70E45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:45:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 430437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:45:13 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8KjCS12810 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:45:12 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120820450501400dk53se>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:45:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208124456.040b34c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:47:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Dec 8 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77914@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >I haven't read everything so far, but if no one has said it already, then a >message for the Catholics to enjoy their day of Immaculate Conception. Ah! Maybe that's what the subject line of this spam from today is talking about: >Subject: THis will not involve conception of a child > >Do you want to know the truth about Paris Hilton's saga? etc. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 14:51:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8Kp3Bp019172 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:51:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70E63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 430740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Kn4S13698 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:04 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-152.gwi.net [216.195.155.152]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB8Kn0At099027; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:49:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208153031.00b4e910@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:31:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208114836.03e4c008@mail.istori.com> References: <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> <7a.4c86d819.2d05743d@aol.com> <20031208141109.GA31713@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:20 PM 12/8/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas writes, > >>LOL! I ain't protested at all yet! I merely asked a question - was the >>plagiarism deliberate? > >It wasn't even plagiarism; Theo made no affirmative attempt to pass off the >work as her own. You would think that a lawyer would grasp that point, wouldn't you? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:11:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LBjBp019443 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:11:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70F4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:09:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 432658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:09:46 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8L9jS18257 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:09:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB8L9ikF032422 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:09:44 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB8L9ffp032420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:09:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:09:41 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Message-ID: <20031208210941.GA32371@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312082020.hB8KK4S07919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312082020.hB8KK4S07919@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander: = On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:00 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: = = >> From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] = >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:37 AM = > = >> mene tekel parsin: = >> = steph: = >> = > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a = >> = > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! = >> = = >> = Is the Dutch royal family a band of = >> = degenerates like the Brits? = >> = = >> = >> No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. = >> = >> They're not inbred, fwiw. = > = >So they all[1] became bleeders by coincidence? = > = >[1] = >Okay, not all, just a lot to make one suspicious. = >And yes, I know it's hemophilia. = = = I believe this conversation may suffer from antecedent indeterminism. = Steph, in "They're not inbred, fwiw", are you referring to the Dutch = royal family? = Bethany, in "they all [1]" etc., do you mean the Brits royal family? = = clo I want to know how Bethany got into this conversation. I did mean that the Dutch were not inbred. But maybe that's only this generation that's just getting married. This was a fun web site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kvenjb/genealogy_nl/nassau/nassau.htm It thinks the baby is going to be named Catharina Amalia. The guys at work today thought Emma was more likely than Wilhelmina (my suggestion). Ah, the internet geeks figured it out! see http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19&story_id=2935 Look where www.catharina-amalia.nl and www.princescatharina-amalia.nl go to! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LDTBp019470 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:13:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A70F52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:11:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 432744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:11:30 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8LBUS18494 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:11:30 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:11:24 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77915@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:11:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:20 PM > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:00 -0500, Phil Paxton > wrote: > > >> From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:37 AM > > > >> mene tekel parsin: > >> = steph: > >> = > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a > >> = > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! > >> = > >> = Is the Dutch royal family a band of > >> = degenerates like the Brits? > >> = > >> > >> No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. > >> > >> They're not inbred, fwiw. > > > >So they all[1] became bleeders by coincidence? > > > >[1] > >Okay, not all, just a lot to make one suspicious. > >And yes, I know it's hemophilia. > > > I believe this conversation may suffer from antecedent indeterminism. > Steph, in "They're not inbred, fwiw", are you referring to the Dutch > royal family? > Bethany, in "they all [1]" etc., do you mean the Brits royal family? I probably should have clarified "European royal families taken together are fairly inbred compared to thr general populice." IIRC, Scientific American had a good story about the genetics of inbreeding [humans] within the previous few years. I think they used a family in Appalachia and tried to map all of the ways the members were intra|inter-related to each other. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:19:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LJABp019584 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:19:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70F61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:17:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 433169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:17:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8LHBS19494 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:17:11 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:17:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77916@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Dec 8 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:17:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:48 PM > Phil Paxton writes, > > >I haven't read everything so far, but if no one has said it > already, then a > >message for the Catholics to enjoy their day of Immaculate > Conception. > > Ah! Maybe that's what the subject line of this spam from > today is talking > about: > > >Subject: THis will not involve conception of a child > > > >Do you want to know the truth about Paris Hilton's saga? There was a story in TV Guide about her "escapades" on a show which had her living|working at a farm. She wanted to wear jeans but the controlling interests in the show wanted her to wear her "rich clothes" so she'd look that much more out of touch. There was also a subsection with three blonde bubbleheads where one of them said, "What's Wal-Mart? Is that a place where you can buy walls?" another, (Jessica Simpson, I believe), "Why do dolphins have a hole on the top of their head?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:22:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LMwBp019620 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:22:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A70FA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:20:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 433586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:20:59 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8LKxS20315 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:20:59 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:20:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:20:57 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Dec 8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB8LMwBp019620 Just when you think that "reality" tv can't get any stupider.... BrP >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/08/03 04:17PM >>> There was a story in TV Guide about her "escapades" on a show which had her living|working at a farm. She wanted to wear jeans but the controlling interests in the show wanted her to wear her "rich clothes" so she'd look that much more out of touch. There was also a subsection with three blonde bubbleheads where one of them said, "What's Wal-Mart? Is that a place where you can buy walls?" another, (Jessica Simpson, I believe), "Why do dolphins have a hole on the top of their head?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:23:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LNcBp019628 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:23:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A70F9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:21:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 433692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:21:29 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8LLSS20503 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:21:29 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120821212101200fmdmfe>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:21:21 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:23:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Corresponding with one of my friends, who happens to be a nice Jewish boy from New York (or on another axis, a great software developer manager who used to run record stores, and still collects more audio and video media than your typical used CD/record shop): >Will need to take a look once I'm home and not in an internet cafe, drunk, >at 4 in the morning. (Why am I in an internet cafe, drunk, at 4 in the >morning, in Bangkok for god's sake? Shows you how big a geek I truly am.) Sounds like Murray Head singing "One Night In Bangkok." :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:26:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LQ5Bp019684 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:26:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020E27D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:24:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 434046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:24:06 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8LO6S21120 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:24:06 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:24:01 PST Message-ID: <20031208212401.44150.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:24:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77915@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > I probably should have clarified "European royal > families taken together are > fairly inbred compared to thr general populice." > IIRC, Scientific American > had a good story about the genetics of inbreeding > [humans] within the > previous few years. I think they used a family in > Appalachia and tried to > map all of the ways the members were > intra|inter-related to each other. There is that, of course - inbred unions that produce questionable off-spring. But the aristocracies of all nations have done it for centuries - to keep the "good" genes "in the family". Perfectly normal, totally unrelated unions are also capable of producing sickly and imbecilic children. What do we blame that on? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:42:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8LgCBp019865 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:42:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7106D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:40:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 435442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:40:13 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8LeCS24307 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:40:12 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:40:07 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77917@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Dec 8 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:40:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There have been trailers on tv showing them scraping up roadkill off of the road while trying to figure out what it is at the same time. With the enormity of the $$$$ currently available to them plus whatever assets they'll inherit on top of that, you figure they need something to keep themselves entertained. And speaking of roadkill...this has probably been five years ago or so (probably in the Chicago Tribune), but the Tennessee State Legislator put together a bill to make it legal for the denizens of that state to pick up roadkill and take it home to eat. Prior to that time, it was illegal to do so [and stated as such in the lawbooks according to the story]. In the northern part of Indiana (during my EMT days), we'd be dispatched as a "just in case" (we got dispatched for everything) when there'd be a big collision between a good-sized deer and a smallish car (at least half the time the animal was hitting the car [albeit near the front-corners] than vice-versa). I don't even remember the "10-code"[1] code any more, but if the Conservation Officer(s) heard it and were able to make it in time, they had first dibs as part of "tracking the deer population"). After that, it was the cop. It rarely went to the car owner(s). Free venison, even when it was out of season. Lots of cops kept spare blankets in the trunks to reduce the blood seepage. [1] There were some interesting codes: 10-200+ codes were all eateries and related stores. The ambulance system didn't have a great kitchen system so most people either carted their own food in when the started a shift (my partners and I did full weekends so that didn't work well) or got fast food. "Multi-Township Base, this is Multi-Township Eight, Copy. Enroute to your destination." "Roger, Multi-Township Eight. Please attend to 10-217 on your return." "Roger, Multi-Township Base." (10-217 was Pizza Hut - someone had placed a pickup order when they had an idea as to when we'd be returning from the hospital). There was a huge list on the flip-down visor. It was done so all of the busibodies at home with scanners wouldn't be quite as "in tune" as thought they were. > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:21 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Dec 8 > > > Just when you think that "reality" tv can't get any stupider.... > > > BrP > > > > > >>> PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM 12/08/03 04:17PM >>> > > There was a story in TV Guide about her "escapades" on a show > which had her > living|working at a farm. She wanted to wear jeans but the controlling > interests in the show wanted her to wear her "rich clothes" > so she'd look > that much more out of touch. > > There was also a subsection with three blonde bubbleheads > where one of them > said, "What's Wal-Mart? Is that a place where you can buy > walls?" another, > (Jessica Simpson, I believe), "Why do dolphins have a hole on > the top of > their head?" > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 15:45:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8Lj4Bp019928 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:45:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71086@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:43:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 435660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:43:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8Lh4S24758 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:43:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:42:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77918@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:42:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:24 PM > There is that, of course - inbred unions that produce > questionable off-spring. But the aristocracies of all > nations have done it for centuries - to keep the > "good" genes "in the family". Perfectly normal, > totally unrelated unions are also capable of producing > sickly and imbecilic children. What do we blame that > on? Girls who aren't fast enough to outrun their brothers and|or fathers? (shame on anyone who didn't see that one coming) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:03:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8M3QBp020275 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:03:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71173@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 438005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:01:26 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8M1QS28558 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:01:26 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:01:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77919@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Boo Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:01:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU well, what was it? Cold, eh? I need to know. ------------------------------------ Affectations - joining two messages at once - playing catch-up. Natalie mentions dash-7. My mother says I've used dash-7 and as long as she remembers me writing - and no one else I had been around did such things. The dash-7 wouldn't stand out in a particular arena, but the dash-Z would come from exposure to the world of math. When my mom was preparing to work on her Master's Degree by taking refresher undergrad classes, there were certain classes I'd attend as well. When everyone was either working in a group or quiz/test, the professor(s) would call me up to the front (usually if it was a math class) and I'd get private exposure to stuff I wasn't getting at school. (I certainly wasn't misbehaving in class) But being given a book with open-ended learning and someone I can ask things like "why this and not that?" was something I've never forgotten. That would have put my exposure to late high school or early college algebra at roughly first or second grade, so I'd have seen (and used) dash-Z initially about then and it continued forever. > -----Original Message----- > From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:20 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Boo > > > Boo: > = > = I think I've mentioned that I did not grow up as a positive anymore > = speaker. A few years ago I started hanging out with a > couple of p.a. > = speakers, and started imitating them. What started out as > affectation on > = my part became everyday speech. > = > > Phil Paxton had one the other day that stopped me cold. Not > sure why. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:04:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8M4aBp020284 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:04:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A711B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:02:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 438279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:02:37 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8M2bS28812 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:02:37 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:02:32 PST Message-ID: <20031208220232.34550.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:02:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77918@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > (shame on anyone who didn't see that one coming) Allow your mind to dwell on your question a bit, then cast your vote for which party should bear the shame. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8M9QBp020349 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:09:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A711C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:07:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 438724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:07:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8M7QS29734 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:07:26 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:07:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:07:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:03 PM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > (shame on anyone who didn't see that one coming) > > Allow your mind to dwell on your question a bit, then > cast your vote for which party should bear the shame. But I have an excuse! (a legitimate one, no less!!!!) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:22:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8MMcBp020559 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:22:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7125D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 439710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:20:39 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8MKcS31487 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:20:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208222021.QGCE1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:20:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD4F926.2010003@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:20:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Parade Pictures References: <20031208132955.83088.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031208132955.83088.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I also noticed the foremost banner read "Holiday > Parade", rather than Christmas Parade. I suppose it's > PC to make it all inclusive. Yes. I hope next year to make the ARF banquet call itself Holiday Banquet instead of Christmas Banquet. It will still be Christmasy, just as the parade yesterday was Christmasy, but it does seem a wee bit more inclusive to call it Holiday. I noticed at the p.o. the other day that in the display of xmas stamps there are now also Hannukah stamps and Kawanza stamps. Maybe there have been for a long time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:26:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8MQgBp020607 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:26:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:24:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 439939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:24:43 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8MOhS32114 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:24:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208222437.QJBO1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:24:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD4FA1D.8060209@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:24:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sucky Site References: <20031208133136.18453.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031208133136.18453.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >> It's a shame that Travis Outlaw, the >>Starkville High School >>super-star who was seriously considering coming >>here, decided to go on >>to play professional basketball straight from hs. > > It will be easy to track his progress, given his name. There are bunches of Outlaws in Starkville, all distantly related supposedly, though they've ended in up rather different walks of life. One, for example, is the Assistant Chief of Police, while another is famous for having carried out a grisly murder. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8MXtBp020719 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:33:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7128C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:31:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 440322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:31:55 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8MVtS00582 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:31:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208223149.QNUU1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:31:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD4FBD7.4080801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:31:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: found trace References: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <11acc01192c8.1192c811acc0@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Also re Angels in America -- it was supposed to be set in the mid-eighties, yet the phrase "politically correct" was used. *uc* and I thought that was a little early -- we thought it was an early nineties phrase. Anyone know different? IMFTATL. I don't know exactly when it came along, but I feel sure it was pretty common by the mid '80s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:45:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8MjMBp020930 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:45:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A712BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:43:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 440441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:43:22 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8MXLS00810 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:33:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 36834 invoked by uid 1003); 8 Dec 2003 22:33:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:33:20 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031208223320.GA13993@words-l.org> References: <200312080213.hB82DBx02448@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312080213.hB82DBx02448@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:13:11PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Unbelievably, the best dessert I have ever had, I ate sitting across the > table from our own Mr. Samant. I remember vivdly being so surprised at the > intense goodness of the flavor that it actually interrupted my train of > thought. Sadly, the conversation was so much more interesting that I never > flagged the name of the dish for memory. Something extremely light, pumpkin > and cinnamon mousse-ish. Sorry, been a bit busy ... Yeah, that was a pretty good restaurant, heh. No flavor-hating going on there. This makes me think I shouldn't constantly get "whatever has chocolate". That's lame. The neighborhood's going hi-class ... "Bistros" and what not ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 16:47:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8MlqBp020961 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:47:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A712DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:45:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:45:53 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8MjqS02275 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:45:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031208224547.VGC1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:45:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD4FF1C.3030309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:45:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Molly makes her choice References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > If you haven't read Molly Ivins today, take a look at: > > http://tinyurl.com/26zq > > She likes our guy Natalie! Her thoughts in elmininating the others she had thought about reminded me of mine. I liked Dean from the beginning but was willing to drop him at any point that I thought somebody else might do better. I think that's unlikely now. Kerry was one I had hope for at first, but that quickly faded. Then I started getting more and more interested in Edwards, but I do think he comes across as too boyish -- voters right now don't want boyishness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:01:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8N1GBp021238 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:01:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7130C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:59:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:59:17 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8MxGS04306 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:59:16 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:59:10 PST Message-ID: <20031208225910.76592.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:59:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > But I have an excuse! (a legitimate one, no less!!!!) Don't they all? Okay, okay. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:02:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8N27Bp021263 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:02:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71304@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:59:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:59:59 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8MxxS04365 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:59:59 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8MxqTs8208542 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:59:53 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:59:52 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031208075053.00b84c38@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031208075053.00b84c38@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > >Richard, man, did USC get screwed, or *what*? > Yes! Cal did beat them, however. :-) Yep. It should be a Cal-KState-Florida playoff. -- Leon Spinks From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:04:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8N4gBp021348 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:04:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7132C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8N2gS05222 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1d3.15d2a03e (17377) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:02:33 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1d3.15d2a03e.2d065d08@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:02:32 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Dec 8 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 3:17:33 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << She wanted to wear jeans but the controlling interests in the show wanted her to wear her "rich clothes" so she'd look that much more out of touch. >> I imagine they wanted her to play Eva Gabor's Lisa Douglas, but no one could do it like Eva. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:05:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8N5sBp021364 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:05:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A71325@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:03:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 441876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:03:54 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8N3sS05324 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:03:54 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8N3mTs6660210 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:03:48 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:03:48 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <20031208163722.GA32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208163722.GA32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. I was hoping for some dishing about toe-sucking and whatnot. The Dutch royals have some discretion, eh? > They're not inbred, fwiw. I no longer accept that as an excuse for the House of Windsor's behavior. They're just vulgarians. -- Richard, all their German's been bred out, obviously From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:18:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8NIIBp021551 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:18:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A713DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:16:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 443691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:16:18 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8NGIS07920 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:16:18 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8NGBTs1982692 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:16:12 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:16:11 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Sounds like Murray Head singing "One Night In Bangkok." :) I have been waiting to tell this tale during a time when Janet's actively WORDS-L-ing, what with her interest in offbeat sexual behavior and Broadway musicals, but hey: On my way to church, I pass a "massage parlor"[1] (and a swingers club as well, but that's of no relevance here) named "Bangkok Spa". One day, in response to an invitation to enjoy the wares, I said (sigh, so lonely): "I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine." crickets O.K., it's stupid and lame, and she did NOT get it, but hey -- I get my kicks above the waistline, y'see? -- Richard, creme de la creme of the chesty-girl world [1] a M'SAJ PAWLAH, as well as BAWS and TEMPUHLS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:38:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8NciBp021918 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:38:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020E77F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:36:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 444779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:36:33 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8NaWS10617 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:36:33 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120823362501100qutche>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:36:25 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:37:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Richard writes, >but hey -- I get my kicks above the waistline, y'see? Works for me. :) >[1] a M'SAJ PAWLAH, as well as BAWS and TEMPUHLS I recently got to hear the A*Teens (ABBA-prime) cover, and it's pretty good. The lead singer even tries to get the drawl in for that line, with some small success. It's actually their above-the-waistline line that's worst, I think; they do it as "I get my kicks above the waistline, *sunshine*" instead of Murray's "I get my kicks *above*...." Syllabic accents can be really important. The one that gets me right now is the Expedia sound, which is a chorused "expedia *DOTCOM*". Why you'd want to emphasize the TLD instead of your company is beyond me. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:43:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8NhbBp021980 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:43:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71465@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:41:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 445056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:41:37 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8NfaS11305 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:41:36 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-202-48.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.202.48]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8NfZCB005869 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:41:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD50BD9.5070408@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:40:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: two feet of snow References: <13129612df56.12df56131296@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > In the meantime, I think I'll have > >>another chocolate-covered cherry. >> > > I chocolate-covered cherries. The liquid ones over the cream ones. > > How'd the cellulite smoothing panties work out? Not bad. It turns out they're sort of throw-backs to the old industrial strength control nylons I think of old ladies wearing. They did suck in and smooth (although there's only so much iron undies can accomplish). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:49:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8NnCBp022116 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:49:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71478@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:47:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 445279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:47:12 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8NlCS12087 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:47:12 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1cf.15cb5afc (4568) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:47:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1cf.15cb5afc.2d066779@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:47:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 3:21:43 PM Central Standard Time, kaminski@ISTORI.COM writes: << Sounds like Murray Head singing "One Night In Bangkok." :) >> You know who his brother is, don't you? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 17:57:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB8NvwBp022305 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:57:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A714B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:55:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 445678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:55:58 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8NtvS13054 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:55:58 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120823555201300mrah5e>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:55:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208155509.042f0e90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:58:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <1cf.15cb5afc.2d066779@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan writes, >You know who his brother is, don't you? Anthony? Had to look him up. I'm not a Buffy viewer, so he still doesn't ring any bells. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 18:27:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB90R0Bp022711 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:27:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7151C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:24:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 446814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:25:00 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB90OxS15924 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:24:59 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.47.36cfd4e7 (25508) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <47.36cfd4e7.2d06704f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:24:47 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 5:56:05 PM Central Standard Time, kaminski@ISTORI.COM writes: << Anthony? Had to look him up. I'm not a Buffy viewer, so he still doesn't ring any bells. :) >> Anthony Stewart Head, also known as the Taster's Choice guy, and he's played Tim Curry's role in a stage production of Rocky Horror. I first saw him in VR5, where he played a darker role than Giles (on Buffy) started out to be. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 19:25:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB91PkBp023471 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:25:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71602@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 449089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:23:46 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB91NjS21087 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:23:45 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120901233901200for0fe>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:23:40 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208171709.02a241c8@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:26:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Jumping works for kids' bone mass, too Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Girls should jump, too, and it doesn't take much to be valuable. "A modest amount of leg-strengthening jumping exercises added to gym classes for girls on the brink of puberty resulted in significant gains in bone mass and strength, a Canadian study published yesterday found." NY Times et al.: A School-Based Exercise Intervention Elicits Substantial Bone Health Benefits: A 2-Year Randomized Controlled Trial in Girls Pediatrics, Dec 2003; 112: e447. Previous blog entry on jumping and weighted vests for post-menopausal women: Heather McKay Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 19:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB91n3Bp023760 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7165E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:47:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 449573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:47:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB91b1S22493 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:37:01 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB91Znm9001615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:35:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:37:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: from FL-LIST: Forensic Linguistics on American Television Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FYI - On Wednesday, December 10, the Court TV program, Forensic Files, will feature a case of authorship identification with Carole Chaski. For information about the episode, go to http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/forensicfiles/episodes/letter_perfect.html The segment airs at 9:30 P.M eastern time. Caveat: the work of the linguist to be featured is controversial in the linguistics community. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:21:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92LIBp024327 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:21:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020EA39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 451645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:19:16 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB92JGS27671 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:19:16 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:19:11 PST Message-ID: <20031209021911.98553.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:19:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: from FL-LIST: Forensic Linguistics on American Television To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/forensicfiles/episodes/letter_perfect.html > > The segment airs at 9:30 P.M eastern time. > > Caveat: the work of the linguist to be featured is > controversial in the > linguistics community. Thanks. A bunch of my favorite subjects rolled into one (including the controversy). Can't wait. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:27:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92RoBp024416 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:27:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A71716@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92PmS28368 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020EA2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:48 -0500 From: Janet Hardy Subject: wintry hello To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Janet Hardy Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, it's been a while since I stuck my head in here, so I thought I'd catch up with you all... Still spiky-headed, loft-dwelling and single, still trying to make Greenery work right: in other words, no *major* news. Things generally seem to be puttering along reasonably well. Finally found an antidepressant that seems to be doing the trick (side benefit: it seems to also function as a mild appetite suppressant, so I'm down a few pounds and am having to buy new clothes, poor poor pitiful me). Went through some very rough times with serious shoulder pain that I thought might be something really bad (I think Betty & Larry saw the beginning of this when they were here for the open house) -- turns out it was just the muscle spasm to end all muscle spasms -- am now in physical therapy and doing much better, although it still gives me the occasional bad day. The condo conversion is within days of closing at long last -- all that remains is to notarize the CC&Rs, which was supposed to happen last week except Tom & Katy seem to have lost them ::sigh::. So, this week instead, most likely. I was planning to refinance the condo and pull enough money out of it to give the damn press a financial shot in the arm... but... the stupid press has screwed up my credit sufficiently that it now looks like my best bet might be to actually *sell* the condo. My tenant is interested in buying it from me, so we might just do a quick sale, no realtors, me carrying some paper back, bob's your uncle, and be done with it all (just hanging out there for an hour last week to let the appraiser in was pretty depressing, although the tenant's fixed it up quite nicely). But the good news seems to be that the place has approximately doubled in value since I bought it, so there's plenty of dough in it, more than enough to put Greenery back on its feet and still let me set some aside for a nest egg -- and I've promised myself, no matter what, a little bit extra to fix up my front teeth, which are troubling my single-girl vanity these days. The romantic arena is stunningly empty right now; haven't even been doing much dating. (What an odd, retro-sounding word that is.) Most of the time it doesn't bother me, but right now, with the holidays looming, it feels a bit lonely. Jay and I have our occasional, vitriolic flare-ups, but things have been quiet for the last couple of weeks, thank heavens. (He's had a steady girlfriend for nearly a year now, and she seems quite nice, but his need to feel victimized is apparently pretty much bottomless.) I'm working very hard, both writing and publishing. This week I'm finishing up a 10,000 word monograph -- "The Toybag Guide to Canes & Caning" -- part of a new series we're breaking out next month, which was a lot of fun; I actually think that this last hellish year has improved my writing skills a lot. (No, this stream-of-consciousness post is not a sample.) I'll be glad to get it out of here, though, and get back to work on "Radical Ecstasy," which is my big work still. I'm also doing a lot of editing on our lead book for this spring, "The Kinky Girl's Guide to Dating," which is by a novice author who's got a nice style but needs a lot of guidance. And the Dudes and I are preparing for an adventure. This is finally the year I convinced them that, instead of presents, we should take the dough and put it toward a vacation instead -- so we're off to New York for the holiday, leaving Christmas Day for five days and four nights. I sublet an apartment on the Upper West Side, and we have tickets to four shows ("The Caretaker," "Avenue Q," "Retreat From Moscow," "Urinetown"), plus as much sightseeing and general touristhood as we can stand -- neither of them has ever been to New York before. Miles and Kristine are now officially a couple, and are hoping to travel next year (he wants to go live in Prague for a while, and she wants to go to Madagascar where she has family), so it may be that this is the last Christmas that I have both Dudes with me and I intend to enjoy it as such. Not too much other news, I guess; I have a strong feeling that 2004 is going to be a lot better than 2003 for me, and I hope it is for you guys, too. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:28:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92SnBp024442 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:28:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71725@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:26:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:26:48 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB92QlS28461 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:26:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:26:42 PST Message-ID: <20031209022642.987.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:26:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031208223320.GA13993@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Sorry, been a bit busy ... Yeah, that was a pretty > good restaurant, > heh. No flavor-hating going on there. This makes me > think I shouldn't > constantly get "whatever has chocolate". That's > lame. I really cannot imagine a world in which having "whatever has chocolate" would be lame. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:32:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92WmBp024525 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:32:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A71727@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB92UlS28801 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:30:41 PST Message-ID: <20031209023041.42340.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:30:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > > "I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine." > > > > crickets > > > > O.K., it's stupid and lame, and she did NOT > get it, but hey -- I get my kicks above the > waistline, y'see? Oh, I get it. White meat. > > -- > Richard, creme de la creme of the chesty-girl world > > [1] a M'SAJ PAWLAH, as well as BAWS and TEMPUHLS __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:41:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92fLBp024614 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:41:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7174D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:39:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:39:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92dKS29493 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:39:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209023914.FYID1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:39:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD535D4.5070801@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:39:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: verdie@EARTHLINK.NET Subject: Re: wintry hello References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > it toward a vacation instead -- so we're off to New York for the holiday, > leaving Christmas Day for five days and four nights. I sublet an apartment > on the Upper West Side, and we have tickets to four shows ("The Caretaker," > "Avenue Q," "Retreat From Moscow," "Urinetown"), plus as much sightseeing OUR NYC PARTY GROWS!! Does your theatre-going allow a dinner break on Saturday, the 28th? It's always great to hear from you. I'm cc'ing you on this list reply in case you aren't reading mail. And to the others of you who were talking about it: Are our Dec. 28 plans real? Is it going to happen? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:45:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92jgBp024693 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:45:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020EA6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:43:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:43:39 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92hSS29804 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:43:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209024323.GAHD1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD536CD.8030704@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:43:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: verdie@EARTHLINK.NET Subject: Re: wintry hello References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Which airport are you arriving at and at what time? I'm also arriving in NYC that day. Can't remember when now -- late afternoon, I think. Laguardia. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 20:50:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB92ofBp024745 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:50:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A71770@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 452492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:48:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92cdS29422 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:38:39 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB92bPm9016226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:37:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:38:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The header text is from my very favorite poster - of an old dude lifting weights - wrinkled skin and all. I think of it as I contemplate knee replacement for my worn-out right knee. I was doing well until the weather changed - working out with no pain, etc. Then came Saturday morning, 100% humidity, etc. - I could barely walk! Titanium is likely to be my favorite metal as well as my favorite computer as I attempt to grow old gracefully! Or at least . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:00:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB930ABp024904 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:00:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020EAE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:58:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:58:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92w8S31224 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:58:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB92w3rm018961 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:58:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:58:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <788446715.20031208205813@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > The header text is from my very favorite poster - of an old dude lifting > weights - wrinkled skin and all. Interesting. It's also the footer text for my very favorite poster. An old woman wearing a snakeskin leotard, standing very erect and looking directly into the camera. It's in the bathroom of the Pilates Center of Austin. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:01:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB931pBp024942 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:01:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020EAE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:59:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:59:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92wkS31253 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:58:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB92wgrm019879 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:58:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:58:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1017937237.20031208205851@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jumping works for kids' bone mass, too In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208171709.02a241c8@192.168.1.99> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208171709.02a241c8@192.168.1.99> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Girls should jump, too, and it doesn't take much to be valuable. Jumprope rules! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:01:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB931wBp024949 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:01:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71791@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:59:57 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB92xuS31331 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:59:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209025951.OSSD1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:59:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD53AA8.5060007@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:59:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > The header text is from my very favorite poster - of an old dude lifting > weights - wrinkled skin and all. This is a timely topic since I just had a phone conversation with an old friend and am wondering whether she really did remember to send in her ARF banquet reservation and money. She called me about a month ago and asked me if I was going to the banquet. I said yes, for sure, since I'm in charge of it. She asked me if I would mind giving her a ride to it -- that she wasn't going to make a reservation unless she had a ride since she can't drive at night. Anyway, I called her a little while ago to tell her that I have to be there early and to ask her if she would mind my picking her up at 5:15. When I said at the beginning something about calling to confirm the plans for tomorrow night, she said, "Tomorrow night? What's tomorrow night?" I told her the banquet, and she seemed to remember. But then she said, "Now what is it exactly that we're going to?" (This is not, btw, my 94-yr-old friend. This person is a good bit younger than that. The 94-yr-old will also be there but will have gotten herself there unaided and will have the occasion firmly on her mental calendar.) > I think of it as I contemplate knee replacement for my worn-out right > knee. I was doing well until the weather changed - working out with no > pain, etc. Then came Saturday morning, 100% humidity, etc. - I could > barely walk! I've heard that knee-replacements aren't all that much fun but that one survives them and lives happily ever after. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB932PBp024965 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:02:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A717AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:00:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:00:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB930CS31410 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:00:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB92xOKX025180 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:59:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:00:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <146201491.20031208210021@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Richard writes, >>but hey -- I get my kicks above the waistline, y'see? > Works for me. :) >>[1] a M'SAJ PAWLAH, as well as BAWS and TEMPUHLS > I recently got to hear the A*Teens (ABBA-prime) cover, and it's pretty > good. The lead singer even tries to get the drawl in for that line, with > some small success. > It's actually their above-the-waistline line that's worst, I think; they do > it as "I get my kicks above the waistline, *sunshine*" instead of Murray's > "I get my kicks *above*...." > Syllabic accents can be really important. Surely this is setence stress? > The one that gets me right now > is the Expedia sound, which is a chorused "expedia *DOTCOM*". Why you'd > want to emphasize the TLD instead of your company is beyond me. It reminds me of Chandler-speak (from "Friends"). Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:04:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB934nBp025007 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:04:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A717BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB932mS31715 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:02:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209030243.OTQT1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:02:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:02:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Old Age Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do the rest of you old people have problems in winter with slits developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. Hand lotion doesn't prevent them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:08:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB938dBp025051 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:08:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A717B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:38 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB936bS31944 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB936brW011408 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB936biN027594 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 22:07:35 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wintry hello Message-ID: <628192406.1070921255@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FD535D4.5070801@maynor.net> References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD535D4.5070801@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And to the others of you who were talking about it: Are our Dec. 28 > plans real? Is it going to happen? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is the 27th. What is the preferred date? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:08:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB938iBp025054 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:08:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A717C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB936gS31950 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:42 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ca.15bb9a25 (16930) for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:31 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ca.15bb9a25.2d069637@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:06:31 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Speaking of Old Age To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:02:54 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Do the rest of you old people have problems in winter with slits developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. Hand lotion doesn't prevent them. >> The first knuckle of my left hand forms little cuts in the skin. But, then, I'm constantly washing my hands and dipping them in sanitizing solution. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93DGBp025176 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:13:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A717DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 453921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93BES32344 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB93APKX007996 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:10:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:11:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <637464441.20031208211122@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age In-Reply-To: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> References: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do the rest of you old people have problems in winter with slits > developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. Hand lotion doesn't > prevent them. Ligniere gets them on his feet. My little sister gets them on her hands, and her husband bought her a paraffin thingy for Christmas a while back, and she hasn't had any problems since. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:16:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93G1Bp025262 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:16:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A717FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:13:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:13:59 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93DxS32707 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:13:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209031345.OXCQ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:13:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD53DEA.4010109@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:13:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: verdie@EARTHLINK.NET Subject: Re: wintry hello References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD535D4.5070801@maynor.net> <628192406.1070921255@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <628192406.1070921255@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: >> And to the others of you who were talking about it: Are our Dec. 28 >> plans real? Is it going to happen? > > I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is the 27th. > What is the preferred date? Oops. You're right. Since I'm flying home on Monday, the 29th, I bet Sunday is the 28th and Saturday the 27th. I hadn't paid close attention since either of those days is fine with me. I have not yet made any specific NYC plans. Marie? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:21:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93L8Bp025349 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:21:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A717F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:19:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:19:07 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93J6S00737 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:19:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209031901.OYTQ1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:19:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD53F26.2030503@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:19:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age References: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> <637464441.20031208211122@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <637464441.20031208211122@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Ligniere gets them on his feet. My little sister gets them on her > hands, and her husband bought her a paraffin thingy for Christmas a > while back, and she hasn't had any problems since. This rings a bell. I think you mentioned the paraffin thingy earlier, but I can't remember whether you told what it is exactly. I want one. Somehow this stuff sounds kind of trivial, though, when I think about the various depressing news floating around me. I just heard that Sally Barksdale, wife of my old hs boyfriend Jimmy (of Netscape), died this morning. I knew she had cancer but didn't know how far along it was. And my colleague who was in the car wreck several weeks ago is not improving. Supposedly the doctors are offering no hope now and are suggesting removing tubes -- as in life-supporting tubes. Typing on fingers with painful gashes somehow seems pretty minor. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:26:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93QaBp025451 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:26:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020EBCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:24:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:24:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93OYS01378 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:24:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.30]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209032429.PAKT1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD5406E.5080508@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:24:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Paraffin Thingy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think I may have found it: http://www.aarppharmacy.com/aarpNet/hlp/hlpItemDetail.aspx?PK=X2988&MI=WEBCLASSFC -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:30:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93UEBp025527 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:30:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71821@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:28:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 454676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:28:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93SCS01712 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:28:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB93RMKX027333 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:27:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:28:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1048819067.20031208212810@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingy In-Reply-To: <3FD5406E.5080508@maynor.net> References: <3FD5406E.5080508@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think I may have found it: > http://www.aarppharmacy.com/aarpNet/hlp/hlpItemDetail.aspx?PK=X2988&MI=WEBCLASSFC That's much larger and more extravagant than my sister's. Hers is small enough to keep on her teeny bathroom counter without getting in the way. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:40:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93eiBp025649 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:40:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020ECD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:38:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 455398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:38:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93cgS02876 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:38:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB93bcKX009044 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:37:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:38:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Paraffin bath MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, This is more what you should be looking for: http://tinyurl.com/ycxb Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93p9Bp025783 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:51:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A718A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 455801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:49:07 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB93n7S03755 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:49:07 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:49:01 PST Message-ID: <20031209034901.93836.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:49:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do the rest of you old people have problems in > winter with slits > developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. > Hand lotion doesn't > prevent them. Yes. Nothing helps. My husband says I get them because I work too hard. I allow him to believe this. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93vSBp025874 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:57:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A718C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:55:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 456079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:55:26 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB93tQS04463 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:55:26 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:55:21 PST Message-ID: <20031209035521.78764.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:55:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingy To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD5406E.5080508@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I think I may have found it: > This treatment is recommended for gout, as well. Chris used to be troubled with gout, and on one of his trips to the hospital during a particularly bad attack, the doctor ordered that his ankle be so treated. It never happened, but they tried to charge us for it. It makes sense to me that it would work, though. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 21:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB93wNBp025881 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:58:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A718B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 456099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB93uLS04556 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020ECF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:56:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312090356.hB93uLS04556@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:56:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:09:41 +0100, steph wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander: >= On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:17:00 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >= >= >> From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] >= >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:37 AM >= > >= >> mene tekel parsin: >= >> = steph: >= >> = > The prince just said that they didn't know it was going to be a >= >> = > girl, and they're not yet sure what they're going to name her! >= >> = >= >> = Is the Dutch royal family a band of >= >> = degenerates like the Brits? >= >> = >= >> >= >> No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. >= >> >= >> They're not inbred, fwiw. >= > >= >So they all[1] became bleeders by coincidence? >= > >= >[1] >= >Okay, not all, just a lot to make one suspicious. >= >And yes, I know it's hemophilia. >= >= >= I believe this conversation may suffer from antecedent indeterminism. >= Steph, in "They're not inbred, fwiw", are you referring to the Dutch >= royal family? >= Bethany, in "they all [1]" etc., do you mean the Brits royal family? >= >= clo > >I want to know how Bethany got into this conversation. > > Yoicks! My baaad. Apologies to both Bethany, who has her hands full today with other matters, and Phil. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 22:07:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB947JBp026036 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:07:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A718EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:05:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 456739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:05:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB945HS05779 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:05:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020ED4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:05:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312090405.hB945HS05779@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:05:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:24:01 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> I probably should have clarified "European royal >> families taken together are >> fairly inbred compared to thr general populice." >> IIRC, Scientific American >> had a good story about the genetics of inbreeding >> [humans] within the >> previous few years. I think they used a family in >> Appalachia and tried to >> map all of the ways the members were >> intra|inter-related to each other. > >There is that, of course - inbred unions that produce >questionable off-spring. But the aristocracies of all >nations have done it for centuries - to keep the >"good" genes "in the family". Perfectly normal, >totally unrelated unions are also capable of producing >sickly and imbecilic children. What do we blame that >on? > Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the 30's and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in the study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed badly. Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove a moral point; but the supposed families were in "my neck". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 22:16:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB94GeBp026187 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:16:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020EF5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 460939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:11:27 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB94BRS07357 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:11:27 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B2F9A2B8EB; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C952B8E7 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:11:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:11:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <200312090405.hB945HS05779@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a > small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the 30's > and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in the > study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed badly. > Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove a > moral point; but the supposed families were in "my neck". Kallikaks or something like that. I haven't googled yet, I'm going with Kallikak. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 22:16:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB94GqBp026191 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:16:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71B45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:13:21 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB94DLS07550 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:13:21 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DA8AA2B8F2; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26A62B8EB for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:13:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:13:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: yes! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kallikak. http://psychclassics.asu.edu/Goddard/front.jpg From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 22:16:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB94GsBp026195 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:16:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71B48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14:29 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB94ESS07653 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71B0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312090414.hB94ESS07653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:10:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:33:20 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:13:11PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Unbelievably, the best dessert I have ever had, I ate sitting across the >> table from our own Mr. Samant. I remember vivdly being so surprised at the >> intense goodness of the flavor that it actually interrupted my train of >> thought. Sadly, the conversation was so much more interesting that I never >> flagged the name of the dish for memory. Something extremely light, pumpkin >> and cinnamon mousse-ish. > >Sorry, been a bit busy ... Yeah, that was a pretty good restaurant, >heh. No flavor-hating going on there. This makes me think I shouldn't >constantly get "whatever has chocolate". That's lame. > >The neighborhood's going hi-class ... "Bistros" and what not ... I hope it's a good busy! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 22:28:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB94SeBp026364 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:28:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71B6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:26:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:26:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB94QcS08973 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:26:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020EF6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:26:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200312090426.hB94QcS08973@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:26:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:11:26 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >> Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a >> small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the 30's >> and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in the >> study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed badly. >> Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove a >> moral point; but the supposed families were in "my neck". > >Kallikaks or something like that. I haven't googled yet, I'm going with >Kallikak. > >Ann Jukes and Kallikaks! That's it! Thanks. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 22:41:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB94f7Bp026504 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:41:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71B99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:39:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 461919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:39:04 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB94d4S09805 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:39:04 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:38:59 PST Message-ID: <20031209043859.50856.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:38:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312090405.hB945HS05779@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a > small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the > 30's > and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in > the > study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed > badly. > Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove > a > moral point; but the supposed families were in "my > neck". > > clo Interesting, that they would feel it necessary to doctor "facts", when there were surely living, breathing examples to bear out their theories. My interest in all of this was stirred 35 years ago by Robert Massie's book "Nicholas and Alexandra". Mr. Massie's son was hemophiliac. He took it from there and wrote about it, I took it from there and read everything on European royalty of that era that I could get my hands on. I am afflicted by this fascination, even now. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 23:00:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB950WBp026864 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:00:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A71BE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:58:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 462640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:58:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB94wUS11228 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:58:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB94veKX002546 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:57:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 22:58:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1834256784.20031208225838@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: E-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If anyone sent me private e-mail from Friday until just now, it got deleted. Sorry! Filters, filters, everywhere... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 23:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB95X1Bp027584 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:33:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020F0C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:30:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 464692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:29:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB957ES12711 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:07:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB957CeO015664 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:07:12 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB957Ba2015647 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:07:12 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031208210918.00b118b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:09:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: E-mail In-Reply-To: <1834256784.20031208225838@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:58 PM 12/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: >If anyone sent me private e-mail from Friday until just now, it got >deleted. Sorry! Filters, filters, everywhere... > >Karen It was too long to repeat! I'll write again next year. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 23:39:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB95dMBp008445 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71DF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:37:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 465634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:37:02 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB95b2S14888 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:37:02 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <200312090536550160086f73e>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:36:55 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208211158.02e47d80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:39:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <146201491.20031208210021@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, > > Syllabic accents can be really important. > >Surely this is setence stress? Yes. I guess I'm looking for the superset that includes both, though. >It reminds me of Chandler-speak (from "Friends"). Yep. But he at least puts the important stuff in the stressed part, right? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 8 23:51:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB95pYBp013298 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:51:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0020F149@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 0:39:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 465681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:39:30 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB95dUS14987 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:39:30 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003120905392401200fjmr1e>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:39:24 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208211026.02e576d0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:42:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: wintry hello In-Reply-To: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy writes, >"Urinetown" Despite the odd subject, this show is quite good, and a lot of fun. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 00:10:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB96AJBp013629 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:10:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A71EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 1:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:08:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB968GS17145 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:08:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7d.428fe476 (17228) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:08:07 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <7d.428fe476.2d06c0c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:08:07 EST Subject: Re: Jumping works for kids' bone mass, too To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 7:23:50 PM, kaminski@ISTORI.COM writes: >"A modest amount of leg-strengthening jumping exercises added to gym>classes for girls on the brink of puberty resulted in significant gains in bone mass and strength, a Canadian study published yesterday found." > I did lots of ropejumping as a kid, but broke my hip anyway!:-( And speaking of pain... This is the worst I've ever had. Still can't walk, although I force myself to get to my dau's truck so I can do my shopping. Fortunately, the store nearby has these great scooters so that allows for easily getting around..... Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 00:31:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB96V0Bp014219 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:31:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71EAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 1:18:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 466557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:18:56 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB96IuS17782 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:18:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.177.2355f641 (17228) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:18:49 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <177.2355f641.2d06c349@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:18:49 EST Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 9:03:03 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Do the rest of you old people have problems in winter with slits >developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. Hand lotion doesn't prevent them. > Thank the goddess, no! Don't need more problems in winter or any other time of the year. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 00:31:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB96V0Bp014220 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:31:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A71F09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 1:25:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:25:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB96PFS18284 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:25:15 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12f.370428cb (17228) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:25:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12f.370428cb.2d06c4c4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:25:08 EST Subject: Re: wintry hello To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 8:26:20 PM, verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes: >Not too much other news, I guess; I have a strong feeling that 2004 is going to be a lot better than 2003 for me, and I hope it is for you guys, too. > >Janet > Good to hear from you again, Janet. Wishing you the very best for the new year too. 2004 has to be better than 2003 for me. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 00:32:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB96WsBp014266 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:32:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A71EFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 1:30:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:30:51 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB96UpS18782 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:30:51 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e1.1522e447 (17228) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:30:39 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1e1.1522e447.2d06c60f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:30:39 EST Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/8/2003 2:49:23 PM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: >It wasn't even plagiarism; Theo made no affirmative attempt to pass off the work as her own. > Thanks for recognizing that fact, Clyde Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 01:00:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB96xxBp014692 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:00:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020F1F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 1:57:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:57:56 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB96ltS19993 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:47:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 89319 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 06:47:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:47:53 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209064753.GA88437@words-l.org> References: <20031208223320.GA13993@words-l.org> <20031209022642.987.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209022642.987.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 06:26:42PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > I really cannot imagine a world in which having > "whatever has chocolate" would be lame. That's pretty poor imagination. Maybe you could try using Sun's 3D desktop? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 01:07:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB977DBp014775 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:07:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72011@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 2:05:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 467838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:05:10 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB96tAS20295 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:55:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 91515 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 06:55:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 00:55:09 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209065509.GB88437@words-l.org> References: <200312090414.hB94ESS07653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312090414.hB94ESS07653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:10:28PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Sorry, been a bit busy ... Yeah, that was a pretty good restaurant, > >heh. No flavor-hating going on there. This makes me think I shouldn't > >constantly get "whatever has chocolate". That's lame. > > > >The neighborhood's going hi-class ... "Bistros" and what not ... > > I hope it's a good busy! Yes. Or in other words, my boss is not the type who wrings every minute and overtime minute that he can out of people. We just had to move, that's all. Some (to my mind, frankly sphinctorial) decisions by our subletter surprised us last month. It's OK ... we are going to a better place. But it has taken up a lot of time. I am set on path of 1-day weeks in January, at this rate... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 01:26:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB97QpBp015064 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72052@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 2:24:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 469844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:24:48 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB97EmS23402 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:14:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 97426 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 07:14:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:14:46 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: On multiple Jerry Garcias... Message-ID: <20031209071446.GA93719@words-l.org> References: <1384709227.20031207165327@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1384709227.20031207165327@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:53:27PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > http://www.tjmonkeys.com/thought.php?theid=48 I am impressed that you finished it. It reads like your average highly literate wordsler grappling with the intimidating project of rigging an extended sequence of English sentences. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 01:27:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB97RXBp015071 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:27:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7204B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 2:25:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 470131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:25:30 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB97PTS24036 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:25:29 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB97PSkF001258 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:25:28 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB97PRI2001256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:25:27 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:25:27 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Message-ID: <20031209072527.GA1200@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208163722.GA32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin: = steph: = > No one is a band of degenerates like the British royal family. = = I was hoping for some dishing about = toe-sucking and whatnot. The Dutch = royals have some discretion, eh? = Well, there's the crown prince's brother, Johan Friso. He just got engaged to Mabel Wisse Smit. She used to have a relationship with Klaas Bruinsma, who's called the first Dutch 'godfather'. The cabinet has decided not to give them permission to marry, but they're going to anyway (this means Johan Friso is out of the line of succession). Her father died by falling through the ice while skating. Her mother got remarried to a guy who worked at a bank and was on the dutch hockey team (hmmm. unmarked hockey is usually field hockey not ice hockey...) Then of course there's Maxima, the new mommy. Her father, Jorge Zorreguieta was the most influential state secretary during the Videla regime in Argentina. He wasn't allowed to attend the wedding (but no one seems to know where it was that he was). He also missed the birth of his granddaughter because he had to leave on business a few days ago. Thugs. What we got now is girls who know thugs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 02:10:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB98AqBp015799 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:10:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72082@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 3:08:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 470607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 03:08:48 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB97wlS25897 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:58:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 11352 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 07:58:46 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:58:46 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209075846.GA6272@words-l.org> References: <200312090414.hB94ESS07653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031209065509.GB88437@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209065509.GB88437@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of pigouts at "upscale" restaurants, I was at one of those some time ago--a place called "Mas". Why our Latino brothers have to imitate the lame fad of 1-syllable names I don't know, especially since "Sauce" and "Feast" and the rest of them opened 3 years ago ... Anyhow, it is a very fine restaurant indeed for eaters. Though a serious foodie would probably not find the rioja fabulous (it has to be fabulous). The best part was that the waiter was a weighty fatherly-looking man with a tough square face and a Mexican-style goatee ... that's to say, as opposed to the wimpy snotbags who have cornered most of the waiting profession at such places. He kept track of everything we did and wanted, without writing anything, and just offered pretty damn excellent "service". Imagine when I look at the receipt later that night and find his name is "Juice". Juice. God, what the hell. JUICE. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 05:50:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9BoiBp018936 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:50:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A722B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 6:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 476100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:48:38 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9BmcS09414 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:48:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.40]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209114833.LWQA1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD5B693.9000109@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:48:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingy References: <3FD5406E.5080508@maynor.net> <1048819067.20031208212810@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1048819067.20031208212810@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>http://www.aarppharmacy.com/aarpNet/hlp/hlpItemDetail.aspx?PK=X2988&MI=WEBCLASSFC > > That's much larger and more extravagant than my sister's. Hers is > small enough to keep on her teeny bathroom counter without getting in > the way. I'd rather have a small, unextravagant one. I'll do some googling and see what I can find. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 05:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9BpMBp018947 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:51:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0020F577@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 6:49:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 476123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:49:17 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9BnHS09467 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:49:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.40]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209114912.LWTO1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:49:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD5B6BA.2060902@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:49:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > This is more what you should be looking for: > > http://tinyurl.com/ycxb THANKS!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 06:01:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9C1FBp019074 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:01:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A722E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 6:59:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 476360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:59:10 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Bx9S10219 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:59:09 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB9Bx8kF001589 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:08 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB9Bx7sS001587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:07 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: On multiple Jerry Garcias... Message-ID: <20031209115907.GA1581@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1384709227.20031207165327@WordWrite.com> <20031209071446.GA93719@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209071446.GA93719@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog: = On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:53:27PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: = > http://www.tjmonkeys.com/thought.php?theid=48 = = I am impressed that you finished it. It reads like your average = highly literate wordsler grappling with the intimidating project = of rigging an extended sequence of English sentences. Ah, I feel better now. I couldn't finish it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 06:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9C3UBp019092 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 06:03:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A722E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 7:01:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 476554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:01:24 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9C1OS26305 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:01:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.40]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209120119.HYEF1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:01:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD5B990.4050702@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 06:01:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Re Sleazy Football Coaches Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Croom starts his job having to deal with the debris of Sherrill's crookedness: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0312/09/wa01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 07:46:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9DkNBp020465 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:46:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7248F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 8:44:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 480780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:44:13 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9DiDS08706 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:44:13 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:44:08 PST Message-ID: <20031209134408.14989.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:44:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031209064753.GA88437@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 06:26:42PM -0800, Lynne > Weber wrote: > > I really cannot imagine a world in which having > > "whatever has chocolate" would be lame. > > That's pretty poor imagination. Maybe you could try > using > Sun's 3D desktop? I assure you, if my imagination were healthier, it would be a source of great wonderment. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 07:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9DpNBp020542 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:51:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A724A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 8:49:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 480969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:49:17 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9DnHS09173 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:49:17 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:49:11 PST Message-ID: <20031209134911.90421.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 05:49:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031209072527.GA1200@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > Thugs. What we got now is girls who know thugs. Or, according to the gospel of "Phil", simply do not run fast enough. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:08:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9E8XBp020790 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:08:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72526@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:06:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 482245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:06:27 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9E6RS12250 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:06:27 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPM00HPHSIR12@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:02:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:02:11 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: wintry hello To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <17e9cf17838f.17838f17e9cf@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is > the 27th. > What is the preferred date? Yeah, that was a mistake. Saturday the 27th. So far I only heard yesses from Rashmi and Natalie. Terry, you in? Jim? I should probably call to make a reservation (In case they have a private party or something going on at that early hour). I'm looking forward to it. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9EKDBp020970 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:20:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7258F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:18:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 482409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:18:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9E86S12555 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:08:06 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9E6qm9007042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:06:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:08:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" In-Reply-To: <3FD53AA8.5060007@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FD53AA8.5060007@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I've heard that knee-replacements aren't all that much fun but that one >survives them and lives happily ever after. That's my plan - to live through the pain and live happily ever after. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:20:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9EKoBp020983 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:20:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:18:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 483105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:18:43 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9EIhS14669 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:18:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-192.gwi.net [216.195.158.192]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB9EIcGp097699; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:18:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209091508.00b19138@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:18:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: I wish you enough In-Reply-To: <1e1.1522e447.2d06c60f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:30 AM 12/9/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 12/8/2003 2:49:23 PM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: > > >It wasn't even plagiarism; Theo made no affirmative attempt to pass off the >work as her own. > > >Thanks for recognizing that fact, Clyde Although I did recognize it, having been involved in discussions of potential copyright infringement/plagiarism in my life, it was Pete who recognized posted the above statement. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:27:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9ERPBp021074 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:27:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A725C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:25:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 482895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:25:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9EFJS14124 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:15:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9EE6m9009213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:14:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:15:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <200312090356.hB93uLS04556@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312090356.hB93uLS04556@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.37 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>= I believe this conversation may suffer from antecedent indeterminism. >>= Steph, in "They're not inbred, fwiw", are you referring to the Dutch >>= royal family? >>= Bethany, in "they all [1]" etc., do you mean the Brits royal family? >>= >>= clo >> >>I want to know how Bethany got into this conversation. > >Yoicks! My baaad. Apologies to both Bethany, who has her hands full today >with other matters, and Phil. Since this is the first message on the thread that I have even glanced at, I have no idea what is going on! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:29:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9ETQBp021131 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:29:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A725CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:27:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 483899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:27:20 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9ERKS17386 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:27:20 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPM00K4NTHK1L@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:23:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:23:04 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1824b617fc01.17fc011824b6@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know a set of first cousins who married in Massachusetts and the parents are both very light skinned/haired/eyed -- but their child -- he actually . It's a little freaky. Too much of the light gene in that one. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Weber Date: Monday, December 8, 2003 11:38 pm Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a > > small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the > > 30's > > and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in > > the > > study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed > > badly. > > Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove > > a > > moral point; but the supposed families were in "my > > neck". > > > > clo > > Interesting, that they would feel it necessary to > doctor "facts", when there were surely living, > breathing examples to bear out their theories. My > interest in all of this was stirred 35 years ago by > Robert Massie's book "Nicholas and Alexandra". Mr. > Massie's son was hemophiliac. He took it from there > and wrote about it, I took it from there and read > everything on European royalty of that era that I > could get my hands on. I am afflicted by this > fascination, even now. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:40:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9EeOBp021269 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:40:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002100FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:38:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 484804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:38:17 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9EcHS20281 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:38:17 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-192.gwi.net [216.195.158.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB9EcCAx093048; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:38:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209093359.00b655a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:37:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Re Sleazy Football Coaches In-Reply-To: <3FD5B990.4050702@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:01 AM 12/9/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Croom starts his job having to deal with the debris of Sherrill's >crookedness: Yeah. It always works that way. What to me is even more bothersome is that university administrations keep hiring the Sherrills of the world, knowing their reputations. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:59:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Ex5Bp021589 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:59:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A726E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:56:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:56:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9EuiS25163 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:56:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB9EuhkF001909 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:56:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB9EugGE001907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:56:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:56:42 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clueless review Message-ID: <20031209145642.GA1901@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot: = re: Amahl and the Night Visitors = = she liked it but... = = http://tinyurl.com/y8es = = = BrP Has the writer graduated from high school yet? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 08:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9ExZBp021595 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:59:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A726DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 9:57:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 486470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:57:28 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9EvSS25317 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:57:28 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB9EvRkF001919 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:57:27 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB9EvQVE001917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:57:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:57:26 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Message-ID: <20031209145726.GB1901@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031209072527.GA1200@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031209134911.90421.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209134911.90421.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber: = --- steph wrote: = > Thugs. What we got now is girls who know thugs. = = Or, according to the gospel of "Phil", simply do not = run fast enough. = They know thugs, but they married Princes! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:08:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9F8MBp021695 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:08:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002101BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:06:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 487226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:06:15 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9F6FS26744 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:06:15 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9F6ErW026512 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:06:14 -0500 Received: from [131.128.23.215] (CCEDU215.nets.uri.edu [131.128.23.215]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9F58iO017980 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:05:54 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <17e9cf17838f.17838f17e9cf@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:02:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: wintry hello Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is >> the 27th. >> What is the preferred date? > >Yeah, that was a mistake. Saturday the 27th. So far I only heard yesses from Rashmi and Natalie. Terry, you in? Jim? I should probably call to make a reservation (In case they have a private party or something going on at that early hour). > I have a problem with the 27th--it is my granddaughter's birthday. /Jim >I'm looking forward to it. > >Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:18:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FIoBp021800 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:18:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A727A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:16:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:16:44 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FGhS28358 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:16:43 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9FGbTs6783170 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:16:37 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:16:37 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <20031209043859.50856.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031209043859.50856.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I am afflicted by this fascination, even now. Perhaps you can find a Russian monk to help with that. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:23:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FNBBp021862 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:23:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A727D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:21:05 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FL4S29285 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:21:04 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9FKwTs6914162 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:20:58 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:20:58 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <20031209072527.GA1200@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031207085624.00adb740@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031207204342.GA29854@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031208163722.GA32022@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031209072527.GA1200@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: > Thugs. What we got now is girls who know thugs. Ah, that's better. Restores my faith in human depravity. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:24:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FOfBp021873 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:24:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002102A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:22:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:22:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FMYS29554 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:22:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9FLgKX015271 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:21:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:22:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <94437843.20031209092242@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208211158.02e47d80@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208131556.0397d4d0@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208152551.02ec5e90@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031208211158.02e47d80@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 08, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, >> > Syllabic accents can be really important. >> >>Surely this is setence stress? > Yes. I guess I'm looking for the superset that includes both, though. I think 'prosody' does it. That has to do with the interaction between sentence stress and word stress. Wikipedia sez: "Prosody refers to distinctive variations of stress or tone in phrases. Intonation and Vocal stress are the two elements of (linguistic) prosody." Prosody is really fascinating in tone languages like Japanese or Chinese. >>It reminds me of Chandler-speak (from "Friends"). > Yep. But he at least puts the important stuff in the stressed part, right? No--that's what make his style so odd. He stresses things like prepositions and articles. I'm sure there are examples on the web, but I don't have time to look right now. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:25:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FPIBp021878 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:25:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A727E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:23:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FNBS29665 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:23:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9FMKKX015908 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:22:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:23:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <39380347.20031209092320@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: References: <20031209043859.50856.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >>I am afflicted by this fascination, even now. > Perhaps you can find a Russian monk > to help with that. Speaking of which, where is Frank? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:28:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FSXBp021914 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:28:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A727FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 488865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:26:27 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FQRS30067 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:26:27 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPM00LVJW7LIH@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:22:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:22:10 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: wintry hello To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <18a1e41862bb.1862bb18a1e4@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmmm...is Sunday the 28th better? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Bradley Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2003 10:02 am Subject: Re: wintry hello > >> I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is > >> the 27th. > >> What is the preferred date? > > > >Yeah, that was a mistake. Saturday the 27th. So far I only heard > yesses from Rashmi and Natalie. Terry, you in? Jim? I should > probably call to make a reservation (In case they have a private > party or something going on at that early hour). > > > > I have a problem with the 27th--it is my granddaughter's birthday. > > /Jim > > >I'm looking forward to it. > > > >Marie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:34:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FYGBp021997 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:34:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7282A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:32:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:32:10 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FW9S31476 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:32:09 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:32:04 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:31:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:59 PM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > > But I have an excuse! (a legitimate one, no > less!!!!) > > Don't they all? Okay, okay. No, I'm serious. I really have an excuse for the humor. My birthday is April Fool's Day. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:38:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FcaBp022043 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:38:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72839@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:36:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 489669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:36:29 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FaTS32076 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:36:29 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:36:23 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:36:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:39 PM > The header text is from my very favorite poster - of an old > dude lifting > weights - wrinkled skin and all. > > I think of it as I contemplate knee replacement for my worn-out right > knee. I was doing well until the weather changed - working out with no > pain, etc. Then came Saturday morning, 100% humidity, etc. - I could > barely walk! > > Titanium is likely to be my favorite metal as well as my favorite > computer as I attempt to grow old gracefully! Or at least . Said knee stands a chance of being manufactured just north of here a piece. I grew up in Warsaw, global home of orthopaedic materials (Zimmer, Depuy, Othy, Biomet, etc.) - they've got a corner on most prosthetic joints and any other artificial equipment which goes into the body. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:53:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FrKBp022259 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:53:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A728BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 490778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FpDS02554 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9FpBW1024381 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:51:11 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9FpAWq024364; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:51:10 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031209074603.00b76be0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 07:46:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: wintry hello In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031208211026.02e576d0@mail.istori.com> References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:42 PM 12/8/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Janet Hardy writes, > >>"Urinetown" > >Despite the odd subject, this show is quite good, and a lot of fun. > >Pete Pay to pee! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:54:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Fs8Bp022264 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:54:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210384@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:52:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 490820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:52:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Fq1S02677 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:52:01 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Ann Borkin [mailto:aborkin@RAHUL.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:11 PM > > Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a > > small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the 30's > > and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in the > > study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed badly. > > Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove a > > moral point; but the supposed families were in "my neck". > > Kallikaks or something like that. I haven't googled yet, I'm > going with > Kallikak. If that wasn't it, maybe that was the name of the family in the X-Files episode "Home". IIRC, that is traditionally the #1 pick when everyone is permitted to vote the Top Ten favorite episodes for various X-Files' marathons. I may be misrepresenting the details a bit, but it involved a baby being buried and some kids playing baseball finding it. Scully observes it has practically every genetic malady which would be considered nearly impossible. There are a total of three males in the family (brothers?, uncle daddy?) and a female. You never quite get a full glimpse as they are kept primarily in shadow but you do get to see some strange facial outlines and hardcore drooling. I'd forgotten about this: http://www.epguides.com/XFiles/ but it didn't go into as much detail. (http://www.epguides.com in general is a nice encyclopaedia) Here's a long overview|review: http://tinyurl.com/yf8t From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:55:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Ft8Bp022271 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:55:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A728C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:53:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 490881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:53:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Fr2S02864 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:53:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002103BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:53:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091553.hB9Fr2S02864@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:53:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:38:59 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a >> small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the >> 30's >> and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in >> the >> study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed >> badly. >> Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove >> a >> moral point; but the supposed families were in "my >> neck". >> >> clo > >Interesting, that they would feel it necessary to >doctor "facts", when there were surely living, >breathing examples to bear out their theories. Which theories might they find facts to bear out? The rest of your post below, which refers to a physical condition resulting from recessive genes, is not what they were looking for. "Criminality", "Depravity", and "Promiscuity" are the kinds of conditions they were trying to show were related to the bloodline, if I understand the debunking report correctly. It's a heck of a lot tougher to prove that these are related to genetic traits; not to mention the very much looser "inbreeding" of having the occasional cousin or uncle-niece marriage in a community over abt 100 - 150 years (as opposed to the very consistent inter-marriage among European royals for centuries) clo > My >interest in all of this was stirred 35 years ago by >Robert Massie's book "Nicholas and Alexandra". Mr. >Massie's son was hemophiliac. He took it from there >and wrote about it, I took it from there and read >everything on European royalty of that era that I >could get my hands on. I am afflicted by this >fascination, even now. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9FvSBp022322 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:57:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A728D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:55:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 491177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:55:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FtLS03469 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:55:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002103DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:55:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:55:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:58:46 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Speaking of pigouts at "upscale" restaurants, I was at one >of those some time ago--a place called "Mas". Why our Latino >brothers have to imitate the lame fad of 1-syllable names >I don't know, especially since "Sauce" and "Feast" and >the rest of them opened 3 years ago ... Anyhow, it is a >very fine restaurant indeed for eaters. Though a serious >foodie would probably not find the rioja fabulous (it has >to be fabulous). The best part was that the waiter was a >weighty fatherly-looking man with a tough square face and >a Mexican-style goatee ... that's to say, as opposed to >the wimpy snotbags who have cornered most of the waiting >profession at such places. He kept track of everything we >did and wanted, without writing anything, and just offered >pretty damn excellent "service". > >Imagine when I look at the receipt later that night and >find his name is "Juice". Juice. God, what the hell. > >JUICE. I do have to wonder what name he found "Juice" preferable to. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:01:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9G1IBp022402 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:01:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7291D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 491568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9FxBS04304 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9Fx5rm029053 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:59:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:59:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <117232241.20031209095915@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I do have to wonder what name he found "Juice" preferable to. Or if his initials are O.J. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9G1xBp022408 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:01:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72917@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 491598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:52 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9FxqS04381 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:52 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp02.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.122]) by smtpout03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA97M6K5AHWALG2 for (sender ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 07:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5819 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 15:58:47 -0000 Received: from 01-040.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.40) by smtp02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 15:58:47 -0000 Message-ID: <004301c3be6d$92bedb00$289a1840@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: I finallly saw The White Dog! Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:00:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 2:2:2618272278 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It has become something of an obsession of mine, Natalie, to check that videocam for TWD, and there it was, in a sequence beginning about 9:45am. Clearly King of The Kwadrangle. Lynne, this pooch needs no rescue! Still in the frame, sniffing about. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GHABp022591 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:17:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021048B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:15:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 493230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:15:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GF2S06896 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:15:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:14:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:14:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:53 AM > Which theories might they find facts to bear out? > The rest of your post below, which refers to a > physical condition resulting from recessive genes, > is not what they were looking for. "Criminality", > "Depravity", and "Promiscuity" are the kinds of > conditions they were trying to show were related to > the bloodline, if I understand the debunking report > correctly. It's a heck of a lot tougher to prove > that these are related to genetic traits; not to > mention the very much looser "inbreeding" of having > the occasional cousin or uncle-niece marriage in a > community over abt 100 - 150 years (as opposed to > the very consistent inter-marriage among European > royals for centuries) Actually, there are two bodies which come to mind which have been much more helpful in medical science. 1) There's a large family group (IIRC) off of the coast of South America where the family tree is just clear enough to avoid inbreeding (to some degree, whatever that is) but enough to make[1] tracking Huntinton's genetic markers finite enough for detection. It's probably been fifteen or twenty years since I read about it. The other hotbed of genetic information is Iceland. It's pretty open to genetic issues but the families are very well mapped with a relatively stable citizenry, including a limited number of imports|exports. The gov't and|or citizens have been compensated well for the wealth of information they've provided and (IIRC) a substantial number of markers (more than originally thought) have been tracked down and are (or nearly are) ready for testing|tracking in the US. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:23:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GNLBp022668 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:23:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210507@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:21:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 493960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:21:14 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GLDS07962 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:21:13 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:21:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:49 AM > --- steph wrote: > > Thugs. What we got now is girls who know thugs. > > Or, according to the gospel of "Phil", simply do not > run fast enough. I've been trying to figure out if there's a way to sneak that into the Darwin Awards in some way (the chasers, not the targets) - perhaps if they slip & fall, impaling themselves onto something. I need to keep a better eye on the Darwin Awards (rather than wait for others to send me verified stories). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:24:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GOxBp022697 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002104E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:42 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GMfS08230 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:41 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:22:35 PST Message-ID: <20031209162235.15482.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:22:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >I am afflicted by this fascination, even now. > > Perhaps you can find a Russian monk > to help with that. > > -- > Richard If I could round up a Russian monk, I would ask him to make an icon for me. A friend has a son who is a Jesuit priest, and he once offered to design an icon for me. He asked me to specify a saint, I said St. Francis of Assisi. He informed me that St. Fran would not be appropriate. I was too embarrassed by my ignorance to ask why. I still don't know - can you enlighten me? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:24:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GOxBp022698 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:24:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210517@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:51 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GMhS08235 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:43 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77920@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:08 AM > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >I've heard that knee-replacements aren't all that much fun > but that one > >survives them and lives happily ever after. > > That's my plan - to live through the pain and live happily ever after. I think there's a statute of limitations on prosthetic joints - specifically hips & knees - then again, they may have overcome those restrictions. (I keep thinking 10-15 years as a lifespan-you might want to ask) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:26:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GQcBp022711 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:26:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210507@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:24:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:24:31 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GOUN08629 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:24:30 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:24:25 PST Message-ID: <20031209162425.7073.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:24:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > I really have an excuse for the humor. > > My birthday is April Fool's Day. How did your mother feel about that at the time? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:28:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GSKBp022747 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:28:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72A65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:13 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GQDN08920 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:13 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77921@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:23 AM > On Monday, December 08, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Karen Kay writes, > > >> > Syllabic accents can be really important. > >> > >>Surely this is setence stress? > > > Yes. I guess I'm looking for the superset that includes > both, though. > > I think 'prosody' does it. That has to do with the interaction between > sentence stress and word stress. > > Wikipedia sez: "Prosody refers to distinctive variations of stress or > tone in phrases. Intonation and Vocal stress are the two elements of > (linguistic) prosody." > > Prosody is really fascinating in tone languages like Japanese or > Chinese. Isn't Vietnamese a tone language as well? > >>It reminds me of Chandler-speak (from "Friends"). > > Yep. But he at least puts the important stuff in the > stressed part, right? > > No--that's what make his style so odd. He stresses things like > prepositions and articles. I'm sure there are examples on the web, but > I don't have time to look right now. He did have a short-term roommate who kept referring to him as "Chandler BING!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:35:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GZhBp022862 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:35:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210578@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:33:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:33:36 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GXaN10026 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:33:36 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:33:31 PST Message-ID: <20031209163331.19623.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:33:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: I finallly saw The White Dog! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <004301c3be6d$92bedb00$289a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Brad Grissom wrote: > It has become something of an obsession of mine, > Natalie, to > check that videocam for TWD, and there it was, in a > sequence > beginning about 9:45am. Clearly King of The > Kwadrangle. Lynne, > this pooch needs no rescue! Still in the frame, > sniffing about. We know that, and now you know that, but he doesn't want anybody to THINK that. Btw, just as Yahoo insists Rita C's address is SOWBELLY, it insists that your surname is "gruesome". Nothing personal, I assume. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:38:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GclBp022892 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72A71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GQcN08977 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:26:38 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:26:27 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Uptown Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9GclBp022892 re: The news from Toronto yesterday about the accident which killed a young Costa Rican student On one of my recent trips to Toronto I was visiting my friend Jonathan who works in a building near the corner of Yonge and Bloor. As he was showing me the vista from his window, he pointed out the Uptown Theatre - a place filled with many memories for him. There were some efforts underway at the time to preserve it, but with plans for yet another condo on the site, it seemed likely not to succeed. Indeed, the efforts to avoid the wrecking ball did ultimately fail and yesterday, as a wall was being torn down, it fell onto an adjacent building - the Yorkville English Academy. A young student from Costa Rica was in the computer lab sending email to his family when the debris came crashing through the roof and killed him. Others were trapped in the rubble but rescued. It makes me angry when I think of all the ways this could and should have been prevented. It makes me very sad to think of the family - cut off from their loved one in mid-sentence and of all the people whose lives have been scarred. I have no particular point other than to say what I am thinking and feeling. Thanks for listening. Paul From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:38:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GclBp022894 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72A84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:31:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:31:00 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GV0N09601 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:31:00 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPM00LK3Z773K@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:26:44 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:26:44 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <18ad66188c76.188c7618ad66@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber > > My birthday is April Fool's Day. > > How did your mother feel about that at the time? I have two siblings, an uncle and a great-grandmother (RIP) who were April Fools babies. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:38:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GclBp022893 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72A81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 494672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:30:40 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GUeN09561 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:30:40 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:30:34 PST Message-ID: <20031209163034.74685.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:30:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312091553.hB9Fr2S02864@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Which theories might they find facts to bear out? > The rest of your post below, which refers to a > physical condition resulting from recessive genes, > is not what they were looking for. "Criminality", > "Depravity", and "Promiscuity" are the kinds of > conditions they were trying to show were related to > the bloodline, if I understand the debunking report > correctly. It's a heck of a lot tougher to prove > that these are related to genetic traits; not to > mention the very much looser "inbreeding" of having > the occasional cousin or uncle-niece marriage in a > community over abt 100 - 150 years (as opposed to > the very consistent inter-marriage among European > royals for centuries) It doesn't seem to me it matters WHAT they were looking for, if the study and "results" were manufactured in any case. Nothing much is "hard to prove" under those circumstances. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:39:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GdMBp022914 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72AB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:37:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 495110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:37:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GbFN10611 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:37:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77922@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:36:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:24 AM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > I really have an excuse for the humor. > > > > My birthday is April Fool's Day. > > How did your mother feel about that at the time? Seriously, I don't know. She never discussed a lot of things until she got divorced nine years ago because of the environment she was in. After that, she's been more interested in talking about [my] ages 2-18 (apologetically, although she has credited our "together time" when I learned to read at two as the primary cause she decided to become a teacher) and 32-now (how much I've changed since she got divorced) and a lot of other familial issues (my maternal grandmother, my kid sister, my nieces, esp. "Mike" (Mikhala), my doppelganger). Actually, Holly talks to her more than I do. She usually calls Holly & they chat for an hour or two, then Holly tells me afterwards. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:42:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GgCBp022948 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:42:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72AD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 495353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:40:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Ge4N11060 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:40:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:39:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77923@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:39:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:27 AM > From: Lynne Weber > > > My birthday is April Fool's Day. > > > > How did your mother feel about that at the time? > > I have two siblings, an uncle and a great-grandmother (RIP) > who were April Fools babies. My youngest niece is as well. Actually, if you have a body of twenty-three people (which aren't selected to "stack the deck" against it), you have better than a 50% chance of at least two of them having the same birthday (month,day; not year). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:46:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GkBBp023050 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:46:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72AD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:44:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 495572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:44:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Gi4N11663 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:44:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77924@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Uptown Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:43:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:26 AM > re: The news from Toronto yesterday about the accident > which killed a young Costa Rican student > > On one of my recent trips to Toronto I was visiting my > friend Jonathan who works in a building near the corner of > Yonge and Bloor. As he was showing me the vista from his > window, he pointed out the Uptown Theatre - a place filled > with many memories for him. There were some efforts underway > at the time to preserve it, but with plans for yet another > condo on the site, it seemed likely not to succeed. Indeed, > the efforts to avoid the wrecking ball did ultimately fail > and yesterday, as a wall was being torn down, it fell onto an > adjacent building - the Yorkville English Academy. A young > student from Costa Rica was in the computer lab sending email > to his family when the debris came crashing through the roof > and killed him. Others were trapped in the rubble but > rescued. It makes me angry when I think of all the ways this > could and should have been prevented. It makes me very sad > to think of the family - cut off from their loved one in > mid-sentence and of all the people whose lives have been scarred. > > I have no particular point other than to say what I am > thinking and feeling. Thanks for listening. I don't think there are any complaints. I heard about it via several news sources last evening, including one of the local affiliates whose broadcast is on an FM channel all of the time so hearing the news on the way home is easy. Unfortunately, you can line up the boneheads who permitted this to occur and ask them what happened. The first three words are always the same thing: "We didn't think anything would|could go wrong." It's disgusting. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GoaBp023142 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:50:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002105DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:48:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:48:29 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GmSN13074 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:48:28 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9GmMTs5832954 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:48:22 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:48:22 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <20031209162235.15482.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031209162235.15482.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > If I could round up a Russian monk, I would ask him to > make an icon for me. A friend has a son who is a > Jesuit priest, and he once offered to design an icon > for me. He asked me to specify a saint, I said St. > Francis of Assisi. He informed me that St. Fran would > not be appropriate. I was too embarrassed by my This is a *wild* guess based on an assumption, but here goes... You wanted the icon executed in the distinctive Orthodox "style" (for lack of a better word), right? Well, some Orthodox might look a bit at an icon of a non-Orthodox saint. Again -- this is a wild guess. However, in the future, never be afraid of asking a Jesuit for an explanation. They _revel_ in such things, and you're likely to lose the rest of the afternoon getting an education. -- Richard, iconodule From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:54:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GsgBp023172 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:54:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002105F5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:35 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GqZN13758 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:35 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77925@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Amazing Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:04 PM > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > I simply do NOT know how teachers have the patience. > > I tell the students on day one that their missing class is > their problem > -- that I don't "take off points" for missing class since that strikes > me as something more appropriate for elementary school, but > that if they > miss, it's their responsibility to figure out what they missed and do > something about it. > > I should add that if this student had been in class in the > past however > long and had asked me for the answers to that practice test today, I > would have gone to my office and found the test and e-mailed her the > answers. Iow, I do go out of my way to help students when I > think it is > appropriate to do so. But I feel no sympathy for or reason to help a > student who simply hasn't bothered to care until the day > before the exam. Most of my profs said they'd do their best to be as interesting as possible so you'd want to keep coming. And if not, they'd present information so vital to the quizzes, tests, and projects such that no matter how well someone took notes for them, it would be impossible to utilize the information properly [otherwise]. But I also remember my "Modern European History"[1] prof who seemed to start with an initial grade with how many bluebooks we filled as part of a test. I learned from the history upperclassmen to bring the handy "family size" of pencils for tests. [1] A lot of interviewers at various fairs & whatnot would ask me what my favorite class had been, so I mentioned this one. They would frequently follow with, "Then why wasn't that your degree?" My response was, "Your question was 'What was my favorite class?' not 'What is my favorite subject?'" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:54:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GstBp023180 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:54:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72B22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GqmN13796 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9GprKX028712 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:51:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:52:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <781426916.20031209105254@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77921@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77921@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Prosody is really fascinating in tone languages like Japanese or >> Chinese. > Isn't Vietnamese a tone language as well? Yes, but it's one that I don't know. I certainly didn't mean that sentence of mine to constitute an exhaustive listing of tone languages--I mean, I didn't even include Luganda or KiChaga! >> >>It reminds me of Chandler-speak (from "Friends"). >> > Yep. But he at least puts the important stuff in the >> stressed part, right? >> >> No--that's what make his style so odd. He stresses things like >> prepositions and articles. I'm sure there are examples on the web, but >> I don't have time to look right now. > He did have a short-term roommate who kept referring to him as "Chandler > BING!" But that was for the sound of it, not mimicking the way he talks. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:56:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GuWBp023188 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:56:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72B3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GsPN13944 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:25 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:19 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77926@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > -----Original Message----- > From: mene tekel parsin [mailto:rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:48 AM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands > > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > If I could round up a Russian monk, I would ask him to > > make an icon for me. A friend has a son who is a > > Jesuit priest, and he once offered to design an icon > > for me. He asked me to specify a saint, I said St. > > Francis of Assisi. He informed me that St. Fran would > > not be appropriate. I was too embarrassed by my > > > This is a *wild* guess based on an > assumption, but here goes... > > You wanted the icon executed in the > distinctive Orthodox "style" (for lack > of a better word), right? > > Well, some Orthodox might look a bit > at an icon of a non-Orthodox > saint. > > Again -- this is a wild guess. > > However, in the future, never be afraid > of asking a Jesuit for an explanation. > They _revel_ in such things, and you're > likely to lose the rest of the afternoon > getting an education. St. Jude, Patriot Saint of Lost Causes? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:57:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GvgBp023194 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:57:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210607@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:35 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GtZN14145 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:35 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:55:28 PST Message-ID: <20031209165528.65556.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:55:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77922@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Seriously, I don't know. > Actually, Holly talks to her more > than I do. She usually > calls Holly & they chat for an hour or two, then > Holly tells me afterwards. There are times when it's not wise to eliminate the middle man. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GwDBp023205 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:58:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72B56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:57 -0500 Received: from tjl.adcinternal.com (host-216-153-232-27.ind.choiceone.net [216.153.232.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GtvN14193 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:57 -0500 Received: from kiva.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tjl.adcinternal.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A21256335 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:51 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wintry hello Message-Id: <20031209115551.26fa5b62.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:48 -0500, Janet Hardy wrote: > Not too much other news, I guess; I have a strong feeling that 2004 is going > to be a lot better than 2003 for me, and I hope it is for you guys, too. I hope you're right -- that goes for everybody here, BTW -- and part of that will no doubt be due to seeing new books from Greenery! -- Take care, Tom Lee who really needs to read more anyway From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:58:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GwNBp023210 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:58:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021060F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GuFN14256 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77927@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:53 AM > >> >>It reminds me of Chandler-speak (from "Friends"). > >> > Yep. But he at least puts the important stuff in the > >> stressed part, right? > >> > >> No--that's what make his style so odd. He stresses things like > >> prepositions and articles. I'm sure there are examples on > the web, but > >> I don't have time to look right now. > > > He did have a short-term roommate who kept referring to him > as "Chandler > > BING!" > > But that was for the sound of it, not mimicking the way he talks. Okay, there was an episode entitled "The One Where..." (oh, wait, they all have that name) where some of them were making fun of his speech patterns but I can't remember which one it was (or when). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:59:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9GxmBp023235 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:59:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72B57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:57:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:57:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GveN14441 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:57:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9Gvc6X016054 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:57:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:57:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <885510023.20031209105750@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hurray for Peter Jennings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU His special on obesity last night made me feel so much less mutant about seeing Archer Daniels Midland as the Evil Empire. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:00:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9H0uBp023262 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:00:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72B68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:58:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:58:49 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GwnN14700 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:58:49 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:58:43 PST Message-ID: <20031209165843.66720.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:58:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > If I could round up a Russian monk, I would ask > him to > > make an icon for me. A friend has a son who is a > > Jesuit priest, and he once offered to design an > icon > > for me. He asked me to specify a saint, I said > St. > > Francis of Assisi. He informed me that St. Fran > would > > not be appropriate. I was too embarrassed by my > > > This is a *wild* guess based on an > assumption, but here goes... > > You wanted the icon executed in the > distinctive Orthodox "style" (for lack > of a better word), right? > > Well, some Orthodox might look a bit > at an icon of a non-Orthodox > saint. > > Again -- this is a wild guess. > > However, in the future, never be afraid > of asking a Jesuit for an explanation. > They _revel_ in such things, and you're > likely to lose the rest of the afternoon > getting an education. > > -- > Richard, iconodule Journal entry - Jesuit source - Richard of the peculiar aliases. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:02:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9H2XBp023275 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:02:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002105FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:26 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9H0QN14935 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:26 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77928@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Congratulations to Netherlands Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:55 AM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > Seriously, I don't know. > > > Actually, Holly talks to her more > > than I do. She usually > > calls Holly & they chat for an hour or two, then > > Holly tells me afterwards. > > There are times when it's not wise to eliminate the > middle man. Why is that? Holly's her only (and will likely be her only) DIL. Besides, if I tried to unload Holly, my mom would probably disown me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:05:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9H5EBp023326 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:05:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72B84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:03:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:03:07 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9H37N15629 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:03:07 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:03:01 PST Message-ID: <20031209170301.23748.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:03:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77928@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:55 AM > > > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > Seriously, I don't know. > > > > > Actually, Holly talks to her more > > > than I do. She usually > > > calls Holly & they chat for an hour or two, then > > > Holly tells me afterwards. > > > > There are times when it's not wise to eliminate > the ^^^ > > middle man. > > Why is that? Holly's her only (and will likely be > her only) DIL. Besides, if > I tried to unload Holly, my mom would probably > disown me. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9H9gBp023395 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:09:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72C5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:07:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 498960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:07:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9H7YN16899 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:07:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9H6gKX015698 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:06:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:07:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <145169587.20031209110743@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Uptown In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tuesday, December 9, 2003, 10:26:27 AM, Paul Barfoot wrote: > re: The news from Toronto yesterday about the accident which killed > a young Costa Rican student > It makes me very sad to think of the family - cut > off from their loved one in mid-sentence and of all the people whose > lives have been scarred. It's a sad thing, for sure. And stupid. A waste of a promising life. I'm sorry about the loss of the theater, too, of course, but at this point, that's minor. I love you. I want to say "I feel your pain", but that's too trite any more. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:10:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HAiBp023408 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:10:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72C4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:08:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:08:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GwbN14653 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:58:37 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9GvNm9016783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:57:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:58:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791B@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >I really have an excuse for the humor. > >My birthday is April Fool's Day. Clone! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HCaBp023432 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:12:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72C65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:10:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 496891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:10:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9H0SN14945 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:28 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9GxFm9017457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:59:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7791C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> Titanium is likely to be my favorite metal as well as my favorite >> computer as I attempt to grow old gracefully! Or at least . > >Said knee stands a chance of being manufactured just north of here a piece. >I grew up in Warsaw, global home of orthopaedic materials (Zimmer, Depuy, >Othy, Biomet, etc.) - they've got a corner on most prosthetic joints and any >other artificial equipment which goes into the body. Are any of these publicly-traded companies? have had or are about to have joint replacement surgery. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:14:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HEEBp023450 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:14:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72C81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:12:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 497037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:12:06 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9H26N15310 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:02:06 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9H0qm9018262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:02:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77920@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77920@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >I think there's a statute of limitations on prosthetic joints - specifically >hips & knees - then again, they may have overcome those restrictions. >(I keep thinking 10-15 years as a lifespan-you might want to ask) Initially it was about 10 years. I am told that the time period is much greater now. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:18:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HI1Bp023527 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:18:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72CA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:15:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 499620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:15:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HFrN18489 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:15:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9HFdrm025670 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:15:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:15:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1758968033.20031209111550@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77927@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77927@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > Okay, there was an episode entitled "The One Where..." (oh, wait, they all > have that name) where some of them were making fun of his speech patterns > but I can't remember which one it was (or when). It was when he was promoted to management over his peers; they made fun of him. He found this out from Phoebe, whom he hired as a temp. One of the things that sticks in my mind is that he stresses 'be'. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:25:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HPaBp023618 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:25:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72CE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:23:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:23:29 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HNTN19936 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:23:29 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77929@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:23:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:00 PM > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >> Titanium is likely to be my favorite metal as well as my favorite > >> computer as I attempt to grow old gracefully! Or at least > . > > > >Said knee stands a chance of being manufactured just north > of here a piece. > >I grew up in Warsaw, global home of orthopaedic materials > (Zimmer, Depuy, > >Othy, Biomet, etc.) - they've got a corner on most > prosthetic joints and any > >other artificial equipment which goes into the body. > Are any of these publicly-traded companies? know> have had > or are about to have joint replacement surgery. They should be public. Zimmer just purchased a firm in (???) Belgium, Sweden (brain cells fading) for $X megabucks ($2B?) making it the world's largest. Biomet is public (symbol fails me), CEO is Dane Miller (good search term as he's about the only person mentioned in conjunction with Biomet) and is doing well in the market. Depuy (pronounced dee-pew) isn't as big as the others but sizeable enough. Othy may have disappeared as part of a buyout (it was around when I left the city twenty years ago). Most of my friends' fathers while growing up were executives at one of these facilities or the Donnelly Press. They used to bring in movies to health clases in grade school showing hip & knee replacements courtesy of the local facilities. Here are two sites which should help: http://www.timeswrsw.com and http://news.google.com If you go to the Advanced Search and go for "Zimmer Warsaw" (Biomet Warsaw, Depuy Warsaw) should yield info about the companies). The timeswrsw.com site isn't as helpful but the residents believe it's better than nothing (we used to call the Times Union the "Times Onion") If there is replacement surgery involved, I would simply ask how long the joints should last and what types of activities will have an effect upon that lifespan. They're making strides relating to the joint's lifespan all the time so you'll never know unless you ask. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:33:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HXaBp023713 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:33:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72D08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 500044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:31:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HLPN19466 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:21:25 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9HKCm9026035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:20:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age In-Reply-To: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FD53B54.3090501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do the rest of you old people have problems in winter with slits >developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. Hand lotion doesn't >prevent them. But some creams do a much better job than lotions. My favorite is probably Glysolid. I have others at home - most of which I buy at the Farmers Coop or my favorite hardware store - I'll try to remmeber to post more brand names later. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:49:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HnuBp023921 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:49:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72D79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:47:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:47:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HlmN23458 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:47:48 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Speaking of Old Age Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:47:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:21 PM > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Do the rest of you old people have problems in winter with slits > >developing in your fingers? They are unpleasant. Hand > lotion doesn't > >prevent them. > > But some creams do a much better job than lotions. My favorite is > probably Glysolid. I have others at home - most of which I buy at the > Farmers Coop or my favorite hardware store - I'll try to > remmeber to post > more brand names later. I've found CornHusters or Udder Cream to work pretty well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:52:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HqFBp023953 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72D81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:50:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:50:08 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9Ho7N23783 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:50:08 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:50:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:49:51 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: political news of the day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9HqFBp023953 Thoughts on Gore's endorsement of Dean? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:52:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HqnBp023959 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:52:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021083E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:50:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:50:41 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HofN23895 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:50:41 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPN0039I2WH3N@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:46:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:46:25 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1935d1195ea2.195ea21935d1@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Actually, if you have a body of twenty-three people (which aren't > selectedto "stack the deck" against it), you have better than a > 50% chance of at > least two of them having the same birthday (month,day; not year). That seems about right, although my parents beat the odds; they have five children and we have three birthdays between us. No twins. I do like sharing my birthday with my younger sister. I also just found out that my across the street neighbor has the same birthday as me. He, who, BTW, came by, with his nine year old daughter, to take Laszlo out in the middle of the worst of the blizzard on Saturday. Laszlo got as far as a pee in the driveway, when he turned around looked up at me like, "What are these people, crazy?" and pulled back toward the house. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:53:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HrPBp023967 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:53:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72D91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 501934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HpHN24151 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210816@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091751.hB9HpHN24151@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:59:15 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I do have to wonder what name he found "Juice" preferable to. > >Or if his initials are O.J. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism My brother had a friend nicknamed "Juiceman", whose real name was Dussenberry, or Dusenberg, something like that. They were part of a club called the "Flood Team". They actually went out drinking and riding around getting high; but at some time during the course of the night, they'd stop by a puddle in the corner of some farmer's field and, holding out their hands, chant "Down Flood, Down Flood, Down Flood, Down". They claimed that this held the river in its banks, and he often told my teetotalling parents that he was going out with the Flood Team to perform this important service. They grounded me for life for letting a friend put sample Creme de Menthe bottles in my French Horn case. I never understood why he got away with this. Part of it may have been that Juice, Batesy, and Bry had such boyish faces, I suppose - 2 of the three looked like Rennaissance cherubs. This was not the case with my imperious, sardonic brother, though - and they certainly should have been acquainted with him! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 11:59:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9HxgBp024048 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:59:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72DBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:57:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:57:35 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HvZN25538 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:57:35 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPN001QV37Y0Q@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:53:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:53:18 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <197eb719b8c9.19b8c9197eb7@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > Okay, there was an episode entitled "The One Where..." (oh, > wait, they all > > have that name) where some of them were making fun of his speech > patterns> but I can't remember which one it was (or when). > > It was when he was promoted to management over his peers; they made > fun of him. He found this out from Phoebe, whom he hired as a temp. > > One of the things that sticks in my mind is that he stresses 'be'. Ross [ imitating Chandler]: The hills are alive with the sound...OF music! Joey : My scone! Ross, Joey, and Phoebe : MY scone! Chandler : Okay, I don't sound like that. That is so NOT true...that is SO not... that is so NOT...that is so...oh, shut up! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:01:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9I1IBp024084 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:01:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72DE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HxAN25777 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9Hx9eO031463 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:59:09 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9Hx7a2031364; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:59:08 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031209095349.00b70300@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:54:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <18ad66188c76.188c7618ad66@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:26 AM 12/9/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >From: Lynne Weber > > > My birthday is April Fool's Day. > > > > How did your mother feel about that at the time? > >I have two siblings, an uncle and a great-grandmother (RIP) who were April >Fools babies. > >Marie One sister here. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:02:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9I2RBp024096 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:02:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021089D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:00:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:00:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9I0AN25959 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:00:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210869@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:00:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091800.hB9I0AN25959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:00:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:22:35 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:08 AM > >> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> >I've heard that knee-replacements aren't all that much fun >> but that one >> >survives them and lives happily ever after. >> >> That's my plan - to live through the pain and live happily ever after. > >I think there's a statute of limitations on prosthetic joints - specifically >hips & knees - then again, they may have overcome those restrictions. >(I keep thinking 10-15 years as a lifespan-you might want to ask) The last literature I saw said that, despite advances in technology, one shouldn't hope for that lifespan to improve. Since it's only sometimes possible to do a second implant, and rarely or not at all a third, I have been calculating my life expectancy for a while now. I still feel more than 20 years away, so continue limping. My dad had double new knees, abt 7 or 8 years ago, and is still gardening and doing the mall-walk thing. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:05:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9I50Bp024161 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:05:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72DF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:02:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 502985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:02:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9I2qN26475 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:02:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9I21KX016713 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:02:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:03:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9510175936.20031209120302@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: political news of the day In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Thoughts on Gore's endorsement of Dean? He reads Molly Ivins.:) I saw this last night, and that's the first thing that popped into my mind. I can't believe it's coincidence. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:06:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9I6aBp024183 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:06:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72E07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:04:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:04:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9I4SN26782 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:04:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9I4P6X028022 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:04:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:04:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1297003204.20031209120436@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <197eb719b8c9.19b8c9197eb7@optonline.net> References: <197eb719b8c9.19b8c9197eb7@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Karen Kay >> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> > Okay, there was an episode entitled "The One Where..." (oh, >> wait, they all >> > have that name) where some of them were making fun of his speech >> patterns> but I can't remember which one it was (or when). >> >> It was when he was promoted to management over his peers; they made >> fun of him. He found this out from Phoebe, whom he hired as a temp. >> >> One of the things that sticks in my mind is that he stresses 'be'. > Ross [ imitating Chandler]: The hills are alive with the sound...OF music! See, I said he stresses prepositions. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:08:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9I8LBp024240 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:08:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72DF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9I6DN26966 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9I5MKX020672 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:05:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:06:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <948849422.20031209120623@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <200312091751.hB9HpHN24151@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312091751.hB9HpHN24151@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > My brother had a friend nicknamed "Juiceman", whose real name was > Dussenberry, or Dusenberg, something like that. They were part of a club > called the "Flood Team". They actually went out drinking and riding around > getting high; but at some time during the course of the night, they'd stop > by a puddle in the corner of some farmer's field and, holding out their > hands, chant "Down Flood, Down Flood, Down Flood, Down". They claimed that > this held the river in its banks, and he often told my teetotalling parents > that he was going out with the Flood Team to perform this important service. LOL. > They grounded me for life for letting a friend put sample Creme de Menthe > bottles in my French Horn case. I never understood why he got away with > this. Part of it may have been that Juice, Batesy, and Bry had such boyish > faces, I suppose - 2 of the three looked like Rennaissance cherubs. This > was not the case with my imperious, sardonic brother, though - and they > certainly should have been acquainted with him! One would think. Parents sometimes double-standard their children by gender without being aware that they are doing so. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:09:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9I9nBp024261 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:09:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72E14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:07:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:07:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9I7fN27287 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:07:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9I7e6X001463 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:07:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:07:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <744271706.20031209120751@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <1935d1195ea2.195ea21935d1@optonline.net> References: <1935d1195ea2.195ea21935d1@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > That seems about right, although my parents beat the odds; they have > five children and we have three birthdays between us. No twins. I do > like sharing my birthday with my younger sister. My sister and I are both April babies, a week apart. I can only figure that my parents were patriotic. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:12:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IBxBp024276 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:12:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72E0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9I9pN27667 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002108DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091809.hB9I9pN27667@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:00:15 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:55 AM > >> --- Phil Paxton wrote: >> > Seriously, I don't know. >> > >> Actually, Holly talks to her more >> > than I do. She usually >> > calls Holly & they chat for an hour or two, then >> > Holly tells me afterwards. >> >> There are times when it's not wise to eliminate the >> middle man. > >Why is that? Holly's her only (and will likely be her only) DIL. Besides, if >I tried to unload Holly, my mom would probably disown me. Check the sentence more closely. Double negation = it's wise to the middleman. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:14:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IElBp024337 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:14:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72E41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9ICdN28330 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:12:08 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: political news of the day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9IElBp024337 LOL this morning's pundits all missed this point ! I saw them interviewing Lieberman and he was doing his best not to look hurt, shocked, dead in the water BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 01:03PM >>> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Thoughts on Gore's endorsement of Dean? He reads Molly Ivins.:) I saw this last night, and that's the first thing that popped into my mind. I can't believe it's coincidence. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:17:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IHNBp024395 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:17:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72E59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IFGN28871 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002108DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091815.hB9IFGN28871@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:08 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >LOL > >this morning's pundits all missed this point ! > >I saw them interviewing Lieberman and he was doing his best not to look hurt, shocked, dead in the water > >BrP > > > > >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 01:03PM >>> >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> Thoughts on Gore's endorsement of Dean? > >He reads Molly Ivins.:) I saw this last night, and that's the first >thing that popped into my mind. I can't believe it's coincidence. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism OK, what odds that Gore believes Joe will have a better chance if he endorse him, and this was really the kiss of death for Dean? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:23:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9INJBp024440 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:23:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72E8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9ILBN30082 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:21:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9IKKKX003957 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:20:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:21:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <942993991.20031209122120@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > LOL > this morning's pundits all missed this point ! They probably don't read Molly Ivins! > I saw them interviewing Lieberman and he was doing his best not to look hurt, shocked, dead in the water Well, I understand that. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:24:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IOjBp024475 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:24:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72E79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:22:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 503724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:22:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9ICbN28312 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:37 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9IBOm9013345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:11:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" In-Reply-To: <200312091800.hB9I0AN25959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312091800.hB9I0AN25959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>I think there's a statute of limitations on prosthetic joints - >specifically >>hips & knees - then again, they may have overcome those restrictions. >>(I keep thinking 10-15 years as a lifespan-you might want to ask) > >The last literature I saw said that, despite advances in technology, one >shouldn't hope for that lifespan to improve. Since it's only sometimes >possible to do a second implant, and rarely or not at all a third, I have >been calculating my life expectancy for a while now. I still feel more >than 20 years away, so continue limping. My dad had double new knees, abt >7 or 8 years ago, and is still gardening and doing the mall-walk thing. You can have it done twice - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:27:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IRTBp024513 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:27:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72EA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:25:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 504754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:25:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IPLN30679 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:25:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9IPJ6X016370 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:25:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:25:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1455077551.20031209122530@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: <200312091815.hB9IFGN28871@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312091815.hB9IFGN28871@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > OK, what odds that Gore believes Joe will have a better chance if > he endorse him, and this was really the kiss of death for > Dean? For such a sweet person, you are AWFULLY cynical! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:37:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IbmBp024738 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:37:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002109B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:35:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:35:40 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IZdN00446 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:35:39 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB9IZckF002387 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:35:38 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB9IZc8R002385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:35:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:35:37 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Message-ID: <20031209183537.GA2363@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <885510023.20031209105750@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <885510023.20031209105750@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = His special on obesity last night made me feel so much less mutant = about seeing Archer Daniels Midland as the Evil Empire. = = Karen You don't have to feel mutant. I've been sure for a while that they and Monsanto are most of the Evil Empire. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IdeBp024786 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A72EB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:31 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9IRUN31288 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:31 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:27:30 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:27:10 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Uptown heroes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9IdeBp024786 by most accounts, many lives were saved that would likely have been lost because of the Heavy Urban Search And Rescue team - a new, well equipped and trained emergency response group http://www.torontofirefighters.com/husar.htm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IdeBp024787 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72ED7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:29:42 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9ITfN31728 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:29:41 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:29:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:29:12 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: political news of the day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9IdeBp024787 and for such a cynical person, she is awfully sweet :-) BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 01:25PM >>> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > OK, what odds that Gore believes Joe will have a better chance if > he endorse him, and this was really the kiss of death for > Dean? For such a sweet person, you are AWFULLY cynical! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IdeBp024788 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72F10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:33:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:33:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IXhN32629 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:33:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9IXbrm015556 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:33:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:33:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1181070500.20031209123348@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > and for such a cynical person, she is awfully sweet > :-) Takes one to know one.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:39:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IdeBp024789 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72F21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 505897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IalN00603 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021098D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091836.hB9IalN00603@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:36 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>I think there's a statute of limitations on prosthetic joints - >>specifically >>>hips & knees - then again, they may have overcome those restrictions. >>>(I keep thinking 10-15 years as a lifespan-you might want to ask) >> >>The last literature I saw said that, despite advances in technology, one >>shouldn't hope for that lifespan to improve. Since it's only sometimes >>possible to do a second implant, and rarely or not at all a third, I have >>been calculating my life expectancy for a while now. I still feel more >>than 20 years away, so continue limping. My dad had double new knees, abt >>7 or 8 years ago, and is still gardening and doing the mall-walk thing. > >You can have it done twice - > >Bethany Yes, all other things being equal, some can. Weight increases the rate of wear, which is why 20 years seems like the best I'll do under current conditions. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IgoBp024837 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:42:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72F31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IegN01140 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002109D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091840.hB9IegN01140@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:25:30 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> OK, what odds that Gore believes Joe will have a better chance if >> he endorse him, and this was really the kiss of death for >> Dean? > >For such a sweet person, you are AWFULLY cynical! > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism See, my ET shares a keyboard with me! It's not so much cynicism as a love of the ridiculous. I can't help proposing outrageous scenarios. I have dozens more - just ask! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:42:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IgvBp024840 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:42:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72F3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IenN01172 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9Ie7rm021401 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:40:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:40:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3810459628.20031209124017@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Uptown heroes In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > by most accounts, many lives were saved that would likely have been > lost because of the Heavy Urban Search And Rescue team - a new, well > equipped and trained emergency response group > http://www.torontofirefighters.com/husar.htm I find it interesting that they cite earthquakes and not 9/11 as the reason for developing this group. Is Toronto so prone to earthquakes? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:43:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IhBBp024845 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:43:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002109DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:41:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:41:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9If2N01220 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:41:03 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792C@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:40:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:37 PM > Yes, all other things being equal, some can. Weight increases > the rate of > wear, which is why 20 years seems like the best I'll do under current > conditions. The rule of thumb I was always taught was 6x; i.e., your weight is borne 6x on your knees. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:43:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IhQBp024856 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:43:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72F35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:41:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:41:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IfIN01265 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:41:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9IeRKX021020 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:40:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:41:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12257497.20031209124128@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20031209183537.GA2363@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <885510023.20031209105750@WordWrite.com> <20031209183537.GA2363@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, steph wrote: > Karen Kay: > = His special on obesity last night made me feel so much less mutant > = about seeing Archer Daniels Midland as the Evil Empire. > = > = Karen > You don't have to feel mutant. I've been sure for a while that > they and Monsanto are most of the Evil Empire. It's absolutely the one thing that *always* makes me foam at the mouth. It was wonderful to hear him ask why the American government doesn't subsidize fruits and vegetables the way they do ADM. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:44:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IiVBp024874 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:44:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002109E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:42:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:42:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IgFN01406 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:42:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9IgA6X000544 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:42:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:42:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1315865447.20031209124221@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: <200312091840.hB9IegN01140@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312091840.hB9IegN01140@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:25:30 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> OK, what odds that Gore believes Joe will have a better chance if >>> he endorse him, and this was really the kiss of death for >>> Dean? >> >>For such a sweet person, you are AWFULLY cynical! >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > See, my ET shares a keyboard with me! It's not so much cynicism as a love > of the ridiculous. I can't help proposing outrageous scenarios. I have > dozens more - just ask! I don't think your scenario is ridiculous at all, though. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:51:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Ip4Bp024932 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:51:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72F64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:48:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:48:56 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9ImuN02322 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:48:56 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:48:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:48:22 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Uptown heroes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9Ip4Bp024932 I have often experienced the earth moving when I'm in Toronto :-) BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 01:40PM >>> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > by most accounts, many lives were saved that would likely have been > lost because of the Heavy Urban Search And Rescue team - a new, well > equipped and trained emergency response group > http://www.torontofirefighters.com/husar.htm I find it interesting that they cite earthquakes and not 9/11 as the reason for developing this group. Is Toronto so prone to earthquakes? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:52:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IqeBp024955 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:52:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210A1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:50:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:50:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IoWN02659 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:50:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002109EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:50:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091850.hB9IoWN02659@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:50:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Uptown heroes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:10 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >by most accounts, many lives were saved that would likely have been lost because of the Heavy Urban Search And Rescue team - a new, well equipped and trained emergency response group > > >http://www.torontofirefighters.com/husar.htm > > >BrP There's a sentence I never expected to see from you! Did you perchance mean, "many lives that would likely have been lost" ? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:53:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IrsBp024968 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:53:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210A23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 506933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:51:46 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9IpfN02890 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:51:42 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB9IpekF002438 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:51:40 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hB9IpecT002436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:51:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:51:39 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Message-ID: <20031209185139.GB2363@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <885510023.20031209105750@WordWrite.com> <20031209183537.GA2363@yoccoz.multinix.com> <12257497.20031209124128@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12257497.20031209124128@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = > You don't have to feel mutant. I've been sure for a while that = > they and Monsanto are most of the Evil Empire. = = It's absolutely the one thing that *always* makes me foam at the = mouth. It was wonderful to hear him ask why the American government = doesn't subsidize fruits and vegetables the way they do ADM. = = Karen, = practicing fierce optimism I don't want to get too much into what we're doing here just yet, but let's say that our roof garden from last year is expanding this year. a reminder of last year (peppers in the greenhouse, peas, cucumbers on the side and tomatoes in th foreground) http://www.patnsteph.net/summer_03/tomato3.jpg and later http://www.patnsteph.net/summer_03/garden122.jpg From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 12:59:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9IxKBp025064 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:59:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72FB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9IvCN03989 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:57:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:56:43 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Uptown heroes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9IxKBp025064 ain't english fun? BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/09/03 01:50PM >>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:10 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >by most accounts, many lives were saved that would likely have been lost because of the Heavy Urban Search And Rescue team - a new, well equipped and trained emergency response group > > >http://www.torontofirefighters.com/husar.htm > > >BrP There's a sentence I never expected to see from you! Did you perchance mean, "many lives that would likely have been lost" ? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:04:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9J4oBp025164 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:04:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A72FDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:02:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 507751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:02:42 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9J2fN05020 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:02:41 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:02:36 PST Message-ID: <20031209190236.35721.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:02:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792A@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > But some creams do a much better job than lotions. > My favorite is > > probably Glysolid. I have others at home - most of > which I buy at the > > Farmers Coop or my favorite hardware store - I'll > try to > > remmeber to post > > more brand names later. > > I've found CornHusters or Udder Cream to work pretty well. Udder Cream was recommended by my surgeon, does a better job than others, and can be found at Wal-Mart! The bottle has a black and white cow hide pattern on it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:09:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9J93Bp025237 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A72FF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:06:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:06:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9J6tN05643 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:06:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9J6prm015968 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:06:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:07:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1153158974.20031209130701@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Uptown heroes In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I have often experienced the earth moving when I'm in > Toronto > :-) TMI!!!! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:11:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JBWBp025273 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:11:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73003@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:09:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:09:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9J9ON06212 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:09:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9J9M6X024253 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:09:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <929806760.20031209130933@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of Old Age In-Reply-To: <20031209190236.35721.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031209190236.35721.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Udder Cream was recommended by my surgeon, does a > better job than others, and can be found at Wal-Mart! > The bottle has a black and white cow hide pattern on > it. But be VERY careful of your mucous membranes. I accidentally got some of this stuff in my eyes once, ended up throwing the jar away. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:12:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JCYBp025291 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:12:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7301D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:10:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:10:26 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9JAON06480 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:10:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 16711 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 19:10:22 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-10.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 19:10:22 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D5EA66 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:10:21 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1070997022!344920 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Uptown heroes Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:10:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c3be88$182bf6f0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Barfoot >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:48 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Uptown heroes > > >I have often experienced the earth moving when I'm in >Toronto >:-) > >BrP > > Love is wonderful. Heide and I are closing in on our 5th anniversary soon. It makes the earth move in West Chester too. alec ------------ plotkina@isc.upenn.edu ''Good ideas are not adopted automatically. They must be driven into practice with courageous patience.'' - Admiral Hyman Rickover ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:16:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JGsBp025357 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:16:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7302E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:14:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:14:46 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JEkN07141 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:14:46 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:14:40 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792D@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Speaking of Old Age Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:14:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:03 PM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > But some creams do a much better job than lotions. > > My favorite is > > > probably Glysolid. I have others at home - most of > > which I buy at the > > > Farmers Coop or my favorite hardware store - I'll > > try to > > > remmeber to post > > > more brand names later. > > > > I've found CornHusters or Udder Cream to work pretty > well. > > Udder Cream was recommended by my surgeon, does a > better job than others, and can be found at Wal-Mart! > The bottle has a black and white cow hide pattern on > it. I usually get taken along to WallyWorld for this because all of the stores around here seem to have a consistent policy: place Udder Cream on the top shelf. I've been known to rearrange their stocking arrangement for subsequent customers. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JJLBp025416 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7304D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:17:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:17:12 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9JHCN07560 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:17:12 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:17:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:16:53 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Uptown heroes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9JJLBp025416 YaY! BrP >>> plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU 12/09/03 02:10PM >>> Love is wonderful. Heide and I are closing in on our 5th anniversary soon. It makes the earth move in West Chester too. alec ------------ plotkina@isc.upenn.edu ''Good ideas are not adopted automatically. They must be driven into practice with courageous patience.'' - Admiral Hyman Rickover ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:21:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JLQBp025446 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:21:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210B35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:19:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:19:18 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JJHN07946 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:19:17 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120919191001100qt5l6e>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:19:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209104850.041ab6f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:21:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77927@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >Okay, there was an episode entitled "The One Where..." (oh, wait, they all >have that name) where some of them were making fun of his speech patterns >but I can't remember which one it was (or when). Somehow it seems weird that you can find something like this on the web, but here are two examples: The One where Chandler's Getting Married: >Rachel: This is so weird. It's been like four days. There's no Chandler. >There's no wise cracks. > >Ross: Or emphasis on the word "be". > >Phoebe: Ooh, how about this? (She holds up a milk jug) Could this milk be >any more dairy. The One Where Chandler Loses the Plot ... and Other Things: >RACHEL: And you know that word emphasis thing -- could it *be* more annoying Reminds me of Captain Kirk's prosody a little. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:25:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JPOBp025484 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:25:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73080@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:23:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 508669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:23:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JDGN06969 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:13:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9JC3m9007875 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:12:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:13:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: "Growing Old Is Not For Sissies" In-Reply-To: <200312091836.hB9IalN00603@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312091836.hB9IalN00603@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>You can have it done twice - >> > >Yes, all other things being equal, some can. Weight increases the rate of >wear, which is why 20 years seems like the best I'll do under current >conditions. That's why I went back to WW last week. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:27:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JR2Bp025499 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73095@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:24:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:24:54 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JOsN08784 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:24:54 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPN0018P79I3A@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:20:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:20:37 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Uptown heroes To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1b82f51b2067.1b20671b82f5@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alec: > Love is wonderful. Heide and I are closing in on our 5th > anniversary soon. > It makes the earth move in West Chester too. Parallelism. We'll be celebrating our 5th soon as well. In Westchester. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:27:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JRJBp025505 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210B32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JPBN08864 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210B65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091925.hB9JPBN08864@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:42:21 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:25:30 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>>On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>> OK, what odds that Gore believes Joe will have a better chance if >>>> he endorse him, and this was really the kiss of death for >>>> Dean? >>> >>>For such a sweet person, you are AWFULLY cynical! >>> >>>Karen, >>>practicing fierce optimism > >> See, my ET shares a keyboard with me! It's not so much cynicism as a love >> of the ridiculous. I can't help proposing outrageous scenarios. I have >> dozens more - just ask! > >I don't think your scenario is ridiculous at all, though. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as . My scenario was merely ! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:27:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JRcBp025509 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210B34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JPTN08959 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9JOcKX001565 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:24:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:25:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1545960760.20031209132539@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209104850.041ab6f0@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209104850.041ab6f0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >>RACHEL: And you know that word emphasis thing -- could it *be* more annoying > Reminds me of Captain Kirk's prosody a little. It's not just 'be' and 'of', though. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JSZBp025535 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:28:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7309F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:26:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JQRN09125 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:26:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210B3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:26:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091926.hB9JQRN09125@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:26:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Speaking of Old Age To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:02:36 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> > But some creams do a much better job than lotions. >> My favorite is >> > probably Glysolid. I have others at home - most of >> which I buy at the >> > Farmers Coop or my favorite hardware store - I'll >> try to >> > remmeber to post >> > more brand names later. >> >> I've found CornHusters or Udder Cream to work pretty >well. > >Udder Cream was recommended by my surgeon, does a >better job than others, and can be found at Wal-Mart! >The bottle has a black and white cow hide pattern on >it. > Or you could use its cheaper, equally effective progenitor, Bag Balm in the green tin. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:30:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JULBp025590 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:30:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A730BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JSCN09629 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.74.91]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPN73C03.D8M for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:21:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3FD62216.4BA80730@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:27:18 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: political news of the day References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Thoughts on Gore's endorsement of Dean? I didn't know Jews used language like that. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:30:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JUbBp025595 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:30:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A730A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JSTN09660 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9JRcKX004418 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:27:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:28:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <475968257.20031209132839@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: <200312091925.hB9JPBN08864@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312091925.hB9JPBN08864@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as >. My scenario was merely ! Ah, yes. I think of that imp as the little bit of Austin you carry with you at all times.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:32:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JWPBp025629 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:32:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210B5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:30:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 509960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:30:17 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9JUGN10003 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:30:16 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:30:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:29:54 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: political news of the day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9JWPBp025629 for me it's the little bit of Ithaca >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 02:28PM >>> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as >. My scenario was merely ! Ah, yes. I think of that imp as the little bit of Austin you carry with you at all times.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:34:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JYlBp025669 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:34:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A730BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:32:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JWcN10444 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:32:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210B9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:32:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091932.hB9JWcN10444@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:32:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:28:39 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as the ridiculous>>. My scenario was merely ! > >Ah, yes. > >I think of that imp as the little bit of Austin you carry with you at >all times.:) > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Karen, I'm hurt. How do you think Austin weird in the first place? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:35:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JZOBp025673 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:35:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210B6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:33:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:33:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JXGN10632 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:33:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210B9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:33:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091933.hB9JXGN10632@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:33:16 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:29:54 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >for me it's the little bit of Ithaca > >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 02:28PM >>> >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as the ridiculous>>. My scenario was merely ! > >Ah, yes. > >I think of that imp as the little bit of Austin you carry with you at >all times.:) > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism LOL! If y'all are gonna plot the map of my youthful expoits... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:37:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JbWBp025698 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:37:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210BAE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:35:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:35:16 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9JZGN11052 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:35:16 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:35:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:35:12 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: political news of the day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hB9JbWBp025698 why am I suddenly having visions of Cockroach Commune ? BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/09/03 02:33PM >>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:29:54 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >for me it's the little bit of Ithaca > >>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 02:28PM >>> >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as the ridiculous>>. My scenario was merely ! > >Ah, yes. > >I think of that imp as the little bit of Austin you carry with you at >all times.:) > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism LOL! If y'all are gonna plot the map of my youthful expoits... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:38:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JclBp025706 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A730F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:36:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:36:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JacN11226 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:36:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9JZkKX012590 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:35:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1419678065.20031209133646@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > for me it's the little bit of Ithaca Gee, I've lived in both Austin and Ithaca... I should be far more ridiculous than I am! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JdWBp025719 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A730F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:37:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:37:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JbLN11394 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:37:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9JaUKX013290 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:37:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1195499628.20031209133728@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: political news of the day In-Reply-To: <200312091932.hB9JWcN10444@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312091932.hB9JWcN10444@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Karen, I'm hurt. How do you think Austin weird in the first place? LOL. I see it all now. Willie Nelson had nothing to do with it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:42:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JgoBp025784 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:42:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210BD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 510691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:40:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JefN12055 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:40:42 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792E@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:40:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:22 PM > Somehow it seems weird that you can find something like this > on the web, > but here are two examples: > The One where Chandler's Getting Married: > The One Where Chandler Loses the Plot ... and Other Things: Why would it be so strange? Remember in the days before there was a web? There was a scavenger hunt where you had to find the shortest number of links to locate a particular target? 99.9% of the people now online have no appreciation for this. Then again, 99.9% of the people aren't sure what to do if they don't get a desired hit in the first two tries with a search engine. My nieces (9-15 in age) are now playing catch-up on a bunch of shows via DVD -- this was part of one stretch of my Sunday afternoon -- (1: "Uncle Phil, did you watch M*A*S*H?", 2: "Uncle Phil, what was your favorite combination of actors on M*A*S*H?", 3: "Uncle Phil, what was your favorite episode of M*A*S*H?", 4: "Uncle Phil, who was your favorite Bond actor?", 5: "Uncle Phil, Which Bond movie was your favorite?") (responses) 1: yes; 2: Henry + Trapper + Frank (meaning seasons 1-3) or Potter + BJ + Frank (seasons 4-5); 3: "Dear Sigmund" (Season 5, which they haven't seen yet); 4: Sean Connery; 6: Goldfinger. Go back to http://www.epguides.com/ and look at Friends. 1. 1- 1 475085 22 Sep 94 The One Where Monica Gets A Roommate 2. 1- 2 456652 29 Sep 94 The One With The Sonogram At The End 3. 1- 3 456651 6 Oct 94 The One With The Thumb 4. 1- 4 456654 13 Oct 94 The One With George Stephanopoulos 5. 1- 5 456653 20 Oct 94 The One With The East German Laundry Detergent 6. 1- 6 456655 27 Oct 94 The One With The Butt 7. 1- 7 456656 3 Nov 94 The One With The Blackout 8. 1- 8 456657 10 Nov 94 The One Where Nana Dies Twice 9. 1- 9 456659 17 Nov 94 The One Where Underdog Gets Away 10. 1-10 456661 15 Dec 94 The One With The Monkey 11. 1-11 456660 5 Jan 95 The One With Mrs. Bing 12. 1-12 456658 12 Jan 95 The One With The Dozen Lasagnas 13. 1-13 456664 19 Jan 95 The One With The Boobies 14. 1-14 456667 9 Feb 95 The One With The Candy Hearts 15. 1-15 456663 16 Feb 95 The One With The Stoned Guy 16. 1-16 456665 23 Feb 95 The One With Two Parts (1) 17. 1-17 456666 23 Feb 95 The One With Two Parts (2) 18. 1-18 456662 2 Mar 95 The One With All The Poker 19. 1-19 456668 9 Mar 95 The One Where The Monkey Gets Away 20. 1-20 456669 6 Apr 95 The One With The Evil Orthodontist 21. 1-21 456671 27 Apr 95 The One With The Fake Monica 22. 1-22 456670 4 May 95 The One With The Ick Factor 23. 1-23 456672 11 May 95 The One With The Birth 24. 1-24 456673 18 May 95 The One Where Rachel Finds Out Special S- 1 15 Feb 01 Friends: The Stuff You've Never Seen ------------------------------ And I remember the "Stuff You've Never Seen". Courtney said they were alway making her dance every time she wore the fat suit so they taped it and played it back on this episode. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Js4Bp025889 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:54:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210C3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:51:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 511573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:51:55 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9JptN13932 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:51:55 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003120919514701300muglqe>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:51:48 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209114824.03c90008@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:54:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792E@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes, >Why would it be so strange? Well, it's not just about a pop culture show and which characters were in it, but something at a deeper level: how the characters think and talk about another character. In five or 10 years things like Google will be analyzing linguistic structure and have a pretty good understanding of what's being said on a page instead of just which words are there, so it'll be less amazing then. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 13:58:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9JwFBp025939 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:58:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210C2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 511954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Ju6N14945 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210C60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200312091956.hB9Ju6N14945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:37:28 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Karen, I'm hurt. How do you think Austin weird in the first place? > >LOL. I see it all now. Willie Nelson had nothing to do with it. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Well, of course Willy was living there too. And Sam Johnson! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:03:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9K3WBp026019 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:03:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A731CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:01:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 512487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:01:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9K1MN15943 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:01:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9K1LeO009992 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:01:21 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9K1Ja2009978; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:01:20 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031209115600.00b68180@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:56:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: political news of the day In-Reply-To: <200312091956.hB9Ju6N14945@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:56 PM 12/9/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:37:28 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > > >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Karen, I'm hurt. How do you think Austin weird in the first place? > > > >LOL. I see it all now. Willie Nelson had nothing to do with it. > > > >Karen, > >practicing fierce optimism > > Well, of course Willy was living there too. And Sam Johnson! > >clo Shoshana?? B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:19:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KJgBp026298 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:19:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210D21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:17:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 513779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:17:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KHXN18549 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:17:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210D1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:17:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200312092017.hB9KHXN18549@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:17:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:35:12 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >why am I suddenly having visions of Cockroach Commune ? > > >BrP > > Ahh, the place where I first set my inner clo free! >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/09/03 02:33PM >>> >On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:29:54 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >>for me it's the little bit of Ithaca >> >>>>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/09/03 02:28PM >>> >>On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> No, no - my state of mind was dominated by that imp known as >the ridiculous>>. My scenario was merely ! >> >>Ah, yes. >> >>I think of that imp as the little bit of Austin you carry with you at >>all times.:) >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > >LOL! >If y'all are gonna plot the map of my youthful expoits... > >clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:21:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KLxBp026319 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:21:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7325E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:19:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 513953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:19:46 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KJhN19032 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:19:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209201938.ZZGI1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:19:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:19:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Prayer? Exhortation? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Remember this? ******************* Bahá'í Peace Prayer Be generous in prosperity and thankful in adversity. Be fair in thy judgement and guarded in thy speech. Be a lamp unto those who walk in darkness and a home to the stranger. Be eyes to the blind and a guiding light unto he feet of the erring. Be a breath of life to the body of humankind, a dew to the soil of the human heart and a fruit upon the tree of humility. ******************** It's what I'm going to use for tonight's invocation, but it doesn't strike me as being a *prayer*. Isn't it more of an exhortation? Also, I'm thinking about leaving out "Peace" since it seems to me to be a general prayer, not specifically about peace. I'm going to call it either "a short Baha'i prayer" or "a short Baha'i exhortation." Or should I say "a short Baha'i prayer that is really more of an exhortation than a prayer"? Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, streesed HA as in haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:23:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KNwBp026333 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:23:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7325E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:21:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:21:48 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KLmN19333 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:21:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209202143.AIO1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD62ED8.60006@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:21:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: verdie@earthlink.net Subject: Re: wintry hello References: <17e9cf17838f.17838f17e9cf@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <17e9cf17838f.17838f17e9cf@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is >>the 27th. >>What is the preferred date? > > Yeah, that was a mistake. Saturday the 27th. So far I only heard yesses from Rashmi and Natalie. Terry, you in? Jim? I should probably call to make a reservation (In case they have a private party or something going on at that early hour). > > I'm looking forward to it. Are you reading list mail, Verdant? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:25:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KPDBp026341 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73266@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:23:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:23:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KN5N19489 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:23:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210D1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:23:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312092023.hB9KN5N19489@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:23:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: political news of the day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:56:23 -0800, Betty Clark wrote: >At 02:56 PM 12/9/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:37:28 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> Karen, I'm hurt. How do you think Austin weird in the first place? >> > >> >LOL. I see it all now. Willie Nelson had nothing to do with it. >> > >> >Karen, >> >practicing fierce optimism >> >> Well, of course Willy was living there too. And Sam Johnson! >> >>clo > >Shoshana?? > >B Oh, are tall tales "Shoshanish"? My, my she got around. Did she write Pecos Bill, too? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:27:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KRjBp026385 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:27:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7328F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:25:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:25:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KPaN20169 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:25:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9KOjKX001886 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:24:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:25:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> References: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's what I'm going to use for tonight's invocation, but it doesn't > strike me as being a *prayer*. Isn't it more of an exhortation? Also, > I'm thinking about leaving out "Peace" since it seems to me to be a > general prayer, not specifically about peace. I'm going to call it > either "a short Baha'i prayer" or "a short Baha'i exhortation." Or > should I say "a short Baha'i prayer that is really more of an > exhortation than a prayer"? > Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, streesed HA as in > haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? Do you really want everyone at ARF thinking you're Baha'i? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KSeBp026416 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A732B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KQVN20348 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from [67.118.125.99] (adsl-63-193-3-162.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.3.162]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9KQE0Z028826; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:26:30 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FD62ED8.60006@maynor.net> References: <17e9cf17838f.17838f17e9cf@optonline.net> <3FD62ED8.60006@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:31:24 -0800 To: Natalie Maynor , English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: wintry hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 2:21 PM -0600 12/9/03, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>>I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is >>>the 27th. >>>What is the preferred date? >> >>Yeah, that was a mistake. Saturday the 27th. So far I only heard >>yesses from Rashmi and Natalie. Terry, you in? Jim? I should >>probably call to make a reservation (In case they have a private >>party or something going on at that early hour). >> >>I'm looking forward to it. > >Are you reading list mail, Verdant? No, not unless it's also cc:d to me at verdie@earthlink.net. If anything's going on, we're probably in, but we need to get it set up now because I also need to set up a get-together with my aunt while we're in NY. Who-all's going to be there? Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:28:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KSuBp026423 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:28:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A732B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KQmN20368 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210D6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB9KQmN20369 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:19:39 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Remember this? > >******************* >Bahá'í Peace Prayer >Be generous in prosperity and thankful in adversity. Be fair in thy >judgement and guarded in thy speech. Be a lamp unto those who walk in >darkness and a home to the stranger. Be eyes to the blind and a guiding >light unto he feet of the erring. Be a breath of life to the body of >humankind, a dew to the soil of the human heart and a fruit upon the >tree of humility. >******************** > >It's what I'm going to use for tonight's invocation, but it doesn't >strike me as being a *prayer*. Isn't it more of an exhortation? Also, >I'm thinking about leaving out "Peace" since it seems to me to be a >general prayer, not specifically about peace. I'm going to call it >either "a short Baha'i prayer" or "a short Baha'i exhortation." Or >should I say "a short Baha'i prayer that is really more of an >exhortation than a prayer"? > >Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, streesed HA as in >haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Actually, it's almost a benediction - but invocation works too, in my mind, as it's calling to that which is good or holy in us. Think of it as having an unstated "May we" in front of the "Be"s - May each of us be a lamp to those who walk in darkness, and so forth. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KTFBp026431 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:29:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A732B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KR6N20473 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:06 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9KR46X010473 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:27:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:27:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <399996365.20031209142715@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where else would you go in Bangkok at 4am? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209114824.03c90008@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209114824.03c90008@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Well, it's not just about a pop culture show and which characters were in > it, but something at a deeper level: how the characters think and talk > about another character. I'm only surprised you didn't come across audio clips. > In five or 10 years things like Google will be analyzing linguistic > structure and have a pretty good understanding of what's being said on a > page instead of just which words are there, so it'll be less amazing then. Ever the optimist!!! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:30:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KTxBp026437 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:30:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210D7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 514785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KRpN20651 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210D4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312092027.hB9KRpN20651@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: wintry hello To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:21:44 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>>I'd like some clarification, Marie said Sat the 28th, but Sat is >>>the 27th. >>>What is the preferred date? >> >> Yeah, that was a mistake. Saturday the 27th. So far I only heard yesses from Rashmi and Natalie. Terry, you in? Jim? I should probably call to make a reservation (In case they have a private party or something going on at that early hour). >> >> I'm looking forward to it. > >Are you reading list mail, Verdant? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'm doubtful for December. I'm in negotiation, and will confirm y/n as soon as I can. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:31:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KVjBp026474 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:31:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A732D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:29:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 515074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:29:36 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KTaN21143 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:29:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209202931.FEG1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:29:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD630AC.4010701@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:29:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I finallly saw The White Dog! References: <004301c3be6d$92bedb00$289a1840@computer> In-Reply-To: <004301c3be6d$92bedb00$289a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Brad Grissom wrote: > It has become something of an obsession of mine, Natalie, to > check that videocam for TWD, and there it was, in a sequence > beginning about 9:45am. Clearly King of The Kwadrangle. Lynne, > this pooch needs no rescue! Still in the frame, sniffing about. An excellent way to spend time! I saw him in the flesh a couple of times this morning, though not in the webcam range. I wonder where he is right now. The rain is pouring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:46:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KkvBp026695 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:46:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00210E19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:44:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:44:41 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9KifN23704 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:44:41 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp01.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.121]) by smtpout04.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA97NPABA6D5NE2 for (sender ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19254 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 20:43:02 -0000 Received: from 02-107.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.107) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 20:43:02 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Anna May Wong Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:44:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 3:4:3498784350 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, Michael E. Macmillan, I am hoping the header will attract your attention. The new winter catalog from MacFarland (www.mcfarlandpub.com) features this AMW guide on page 1, for only $45. 69 photos! My attention was distracted by "Classics Illustrated: A Cultural History" (2002; $55), which I probably must add to my collection. There is a lecture by the author, Wm B. Jones, Jr., at The Center for the Book, Library of Congress, at: http://www.loc.gov/locvideo/classics/ Excelsior, Gruesome Grissom From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:47:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KlOBp026698 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:47:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73353@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:45:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:45:16 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KjFN23824 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:45:15 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPN007BIAZE7B@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:40:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:40:57 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ba3af1b9ba1.1b9ba11ba3af@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay >Natalie: > > Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, streesed HA > as in > > haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? > > Do you really want everyone at ARF thinking you're Baha'i? My next door neighbors (who are) pronounce it [b@-HaI'] -- I think that's right --that's two syllables with a schwa in the first syllable and the stress on the second. Almost sounds like "bye" with an h in the middle. I think there is also a three syllable pronunciation, but I've never heard it -- I just see it in my dictionary here. I've never really understood IPA. So I don't know how to translate it but it's got two a's with umlauts in the first two syllables and what we used to call a "long e" (as in "bee") at the end, stress on the second. Pretty much what you have above (I think, but the vowels in the first two syllable match and they are like the vowel in cot or father. I know very little about the religion. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:50:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KoHBp026716 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:50:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7335C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:48:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:48:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Km7N24135 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:48:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9Km66X005996 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:48:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:48:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1647018527.20031209144817@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <1ba3af1b9ba1.1b9ba11ba3af@optonline.net> References: <1ba3af1b9ba1.1b9ba11ba3af@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > My next door neighbors (who are) pronounce it [b@-HaI'] -- I think that's > right --that's two syllables with a schwa in the first syllable and the stress > on the second. Almost sounds like "bye" with an h in the middle. I think That's how I've always heard it. I had a roommate briefly who was one--I ended up having to throw her out because she didn't pay her rent. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:51:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KpTBp026754 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:51:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7336A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:20 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KnKN24378 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209204914.RDBJ1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:49:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Do you really want everyone at ARF thinking you're Baha'i? I don't really care what they think I am. But I'm curious now. Is there something about being Baha'i? I don't really know much about it except that it's for human unity or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:51:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KpZBp026757 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:51:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73373@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KnQN24389 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:49:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9KnKrm004151 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:49:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:49:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <932743386.20031209144931@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Anna May Wong In-Reply-To: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> References: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Brad Grissom wrote: > Hi, Michael E. Macmillan, I am hoping the header will attract > your attention. The new winter catalog from MacFarland > (www.mcfarlandpub.com) features this AMW guide on page 1, for > only $45. 69 photos! One of the authors lives in St. Louis. Will Mem show up for Archfest? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:56:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KuTBp026792 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7337B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KsJN25225 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9KsErm010100 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:54:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:54:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <609285520.20031209145426@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> References: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> Do you really want everyone at ARF thinking you're Baha'i? > I don't really care what they think I am. But I'm curious now. Is > there something about being Baha'i? I don't really know > much about it except that it's for human unity or whatever. Not embarrassing, but it's certainly not mainstream. Also, I've heard bad things about their proselytizing. Here's one POV: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/tim.htm It's not something I would want linked to my name. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:56:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KukBp026808 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73398@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:36 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9KsZN25287 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:35 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:54:30 PST Message-ID: <20031209205430.92379.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:54:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Remember this? > > ******************* > Bahá'í Peace Prayer > Be generous in prosperity and thankful in adversity. > Be fair in thy > judgement and guarded in thy speech. Be a lamp unto > those who walk in > darkness and a home to the stranger. Be eyes to the > blind and a guiding > light unto he feet of the erring. Be a breath of > life to the body of > humankind, a dew to the soil of the human heart and > a fruit upon the > tree of humility. > ******************** > > It's what I'm going to use for tonight's invocation, > but it doesn't > strike me as being a *prayer*. Isn't it more of an > exhortation? Also, > I'm thinking about leaving out "Peace" since it > seems to me to be a > general prayer, not specifically about peace. I'm > going to call it > either "a short Baha'i prayer" or "a short Baha'i > exhortation." Or > should I say "a short Baha'i prayer that is really > more of an > exhortation than a prayer"? > > Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, > streesed HA as in > haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) My perception is that it is not a prayer. I think clo's got it right. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:56:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KulBp026809 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7337E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KsbN25291 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209205432.RFZE1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63670.5080502@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:54:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Actually, it's almost a benediction - but invocation works too, in my mind, > as it's calling to that which is good or holy in us. > Think of it as having an unstated "May we" in front of the "Be"s - > May each of us be a lamp to those who walk in darkness, and so forth. I was trying to figure out the best word to use in saying something like, "For the invocation I want to read a short Baha'i ________ that seems appropriate for the spirit of the season." Then I'll read it. Then I'll sit down. "Prayer" would work, I guess, for the reasons you've mentioned. I had thought about that earlier. A prayer is usually addressed to a diety, but if you consider the diety as living inside human beings, as I do, then this exhortation could also be a prayer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:57:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KvfBp026821 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:57:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73385@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:55:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:55:32 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9KtWN25449 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:55:32 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp01.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.121]) by smtpout03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA97NPXBAZRSN4S for (sender ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23309 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 20:54:35 -0000 Received: from 02-107.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.107) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 20:54:35 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c3be96$db572880$6b9a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> <932743386.20031209144931@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Anna May Wong Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:56:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 5:2:1348807032 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Brad Grissom wrote: > > Hi, Michael E. Macmillan, I am hoping the header will attract > > your attention. The new winter catalog from MacFarland > > (www.mcfarlandpub.com) features this AMW guide on page 1, for > > only $45. 69 photos! > > One of the authors lives in St. Louis. Will Mem show up for Archfest? > > Karen, > practicing fierce optimism > He is probably too busy with his Philip Ahn: A Comprehensive Guide (forthcoming). brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:58:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Kw4Bp026826 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:58:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A733A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 516960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:55:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KttN25499 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:55:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9Kts6X015859 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:55:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:56:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <43361916.20031209145605@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> References: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't really care what they think I am. Okay. I do think it's a good invocation. I also think I'd rewrite it as Carolyn suggested. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:59:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9KxiBp026862 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:59:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73390@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:57:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 517049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:57:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9KvYN25754 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:57:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9KvX6X017696 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:57:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:57:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1349416823.20031209145745@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <3FD63670.5080502@maynor.net> References: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD63670.5080502@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A prayer is usually addressed to a diety, Is it?! That must be why I'm so bad at it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:02:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9L2BBp026927 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:02:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A733B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:00:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 517234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:00:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9L02N26181 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:00:02 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:59:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Prayer? Exhortation? Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:59:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:54 PM > On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > >> Do you really want everyone at ARF thinking you're Baha'i? > > > I don't really care what they think I am. But I'm curious now. Is > > there something about being Baha'i? I don't > really know > > much about it except that it's for human unity or whatever. > > Not embarrassing, but it's certainly not mainstream. Also, I've heard > bad things about their proselytizing. > > Here's one POV: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/tim.htm > > It's not something I would want linked to my name. Who is Bob Henderson? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:09:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9L9LBp026991 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:09:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A733FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:07:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:07:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9L7BN27825 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:07:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9L6KKX021563 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:06:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:07:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <871841618.20031209150721@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7792F@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:54 PM >> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > Karen Kay wrote: >> >> Do you really want everyone at ARF thinking you're Baha'i? >> >> > I don't really care what they think I am. But I'm curious now. Is >> > there something about being Baha'i? I don't >> really know >> > much about it except that it's for human unity or whatever. >> >> Not embarrassing, but it's certainly not mainstream. Also, I've heard >> bad things about their proselytizing. >> >> Here's one POV: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/tim.htm >> >> It's not something I would want linked to my name. > Who is Bob Henderson? Some church muckitymuck. See http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Criticism.htm for another mention... Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:11:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LBcBp027042 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:11:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73417@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:09:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:09:29 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9L9SN28162 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:09:28 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120921092101500bpl53e>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:09:22 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209131038.04079d40@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:11:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> References: <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I don't really know much about it except that it's for human unity or >whatever. A controversial belief, unfortunately. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LCKBp027052 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:12:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LABN28260 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:11 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-192.gwi.net [216.195.158.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hB9LA6At077181; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209160910.00b3b6c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:10:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: political news of the day In-Reply-To: <200312092023.hB9KN5N19489@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:23 PM 12/9/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Oh, are tall tales "Shoshanish"? My, my she got around. Did she write >Pecos Bill, too? Regularly, but we are unsure that he ever answered. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:12:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LCRBp027056 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:12:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7341B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LAIN28277 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209211013.ROMS1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:10:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63A36.4050507@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:10:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <1ba3af1b9ba1.1b9ba11ba3af@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <1ba3af1b9ba1.1b9ba11ba3af@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>>Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, streesed HA >> >>as in >> >>>haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? how to translate it but it's got two a's with umlauts in the first two syllables > and what we used to call a "long e" (as in "bee") at the end, stress on the second. Pretty much what you have above (I think, but the vowels in the first > two syllable match and they are like the vowel in cot or father. Thanks. I laughed when I looked up at what I had written above. I decided to capitalize to show stress on the second syllable, producing HA, which does not represent anything in IPA! I meant [baha], rhyming, but with the stress on the ha. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:16:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LGtBp027132 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:16:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7344A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:14:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:14:46 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LEjN29255 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:14:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209211440.RQYM1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:14:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63B42.1050209@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:14:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> <609285520.20031209145426@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <609285520.20031209145426@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>I don't really care what they think I am. But I'm curious now. Is >>there something about being Baha'i? I don't really know >>much about it except that it's for human unity or whatever. > > Not embarrassing, but it's certainly not mainstream. Also, I've heard > bad things about their proselytizing. > > Here's one POV: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/tim.htm Thanks. I just glanced at the url -- don't have much time now. It certainly does not bother me to be , but I don't want to promote a religion that does . I could simply leave out Baha'i, thus removing the pronunciation question also. I could say, "For the invocation I want to read a short, anonymous [prayer?] that seems fitting for the season." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:17:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LHtBp027142 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:17:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7344D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:46 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LFkN29401 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209211541.RRNK1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63B7E.7000602@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:15:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <3FD6354C.4090501@maynor.net> <609285520.20031209145426@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <609285520.20031209145426@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: A Jewish friend of mind is going to be Santa Claus at his daughter's school next week. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:18:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LIhBp027157 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:18:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73448@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LGYN29549 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9LGV6X010471 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:16:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:16:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <753477143.20031209151642@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209131038.04079d40@mail.istori.com> References: <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <3FD62E5B.7070907@maynor.net> <1099011798.20031209142545@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031209131038.04079d40@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Natalie Maynor writes, >>I don't really know much about it except that it's for human unity or >>whatever. > A controversial belief, unfortunately. I don't think the beliefs are as controversial as the practice. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:19:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LJ8Bp027164 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:19:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7344C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 518873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:59 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LGxN29627 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:59 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPN00AA7CH2UU@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:12:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:12:43 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ad2291aeada.1aeada1ad229@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > My next door neighbors (who are) pronounce it [b@-HaI'] -- I > think that's > > right --that's two syllables with a schwa in the first syllable > and the stress > > on the second. Almost sounds like "bye" with an h in the > middle. I think > > That's how I've always heard it. I had a roommate briefly who was > one--I ended up having to throw her out because she didn't pay her > rent. After reading that thing you sent, I am most certainly not joining them for one of their "feasts". They invited us a couple of weeks ago, but we were able to decline because we were going to go see Los Lonely Boys. These are new neighbors. Our original neighbors -- who we adored -- moved to St. Louis in September. These ones sort of weird me out. Too much lighting. I did bump into their girls (who are sweet) one morning after they should have been at school -- I was home with Laszlo -- and they told me that it was a holiday -- "Bob's birthday". Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:22:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LMMBp027207 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:22:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73451@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:20:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:20:05 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9LK5N30155 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:20:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 29925 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 21:20:03 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-8.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 21:20:03 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62969FD7 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:20:03 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071004803!347401 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Prayer? Exhortation? Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:20:04 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c3be9a$36452cd0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3FD63B7E.7000602@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:16 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? > > >PS: A Jewish friend of mind is going to be Santa Claus at his >daughter's school next week. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > What is a "friend of mind"? alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:23:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LNhBp027222 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:23:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7346C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:21:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:21:34 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9LLYN30289 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:21:34 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:21:28 PST Message-ID: <20031209212128.20204.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:21:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209131038.04079d40@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Natalie Maynor writes, > > >I don't really know much about it except that it's > for human unity or > >whatever. > > A controversial belief, unfortunately. > > Pete B'hai ians? Well, now I am lead to believe that they are welshers, are unsure of their role as regards bigamy, and may be involved with selling cleaning products. I wonder if Miss Bankhead was named after their master when her mother was temporarily deafened by the massive entry of troops? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:25:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LPlBp027255 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:25:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73486@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:38 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9LNcN30602 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:38 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:23:33 PST Message-ID: <20031209212333.2395.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD63B42.1050209@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I could say, > "For the invocation I want to read a short, > anonymous [prayer?] that > seems fitting for the season." I think of prayer as a plea or request. Perhaps my interpretation is wrong. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LQ6Bp027262 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7346E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:57 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LNvN30647 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209212332.RVSE1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63D55.6000307@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:23:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD63670.5080502@maynor.net> <1349416823.20031209145745@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1349416823.20031209145745@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>A prayer is usually addressed to a diety, > > Is it?! That must be why I'm so bad at it. Afaik. How about I call it a "meditation," starting with Clo's suggested "may we"? (I wouldn't have to keep repeating the may we -- one at the beginning would handle it all.) I think "meditation" might work. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:26:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LQQBp027269 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73471@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:24:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:24:17 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LOHN30709 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:24:17 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPN005T1CQKKV@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:18:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:18:46 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1b23cb1b104b.1b104b1b23cb@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hB9LOHN30710 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > holiday -- "Bob's birthday". Well, that's what I thought they said anyway. Actually it was the Birthday of the Bab: http://67.120.246.148/calendar/celebrations/birth_bab.asp On October 20th, Bahá'ís around the world celebrate the Birth of the Báb, one of eleven Holy Days in the Bahá'í calendar. The Báb is often refered to as the Herald of the Bahá'í Faith, because it was His mission to prepare the way for Bahá'u'lláh, the Founder of the Bahá'í Faith. Like John the Baptist some 2,000 years before, the Báb called upon the people to purify themselves for the coming of the day of God. Unlike John, however, He founded an independent religion and claimed equal station with the likes of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. Bahá'ís view the Báb and Bahá'u'lláh both as "Manifestations of God" even though by the Báb's own testimony His mission was subordinate to Bahá'u'lláh's. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:27:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LRJBp027301 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7348F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:25:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:25:10 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LPAN30931 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:25:10 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003120921250101500bprf5e>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:25:02 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:27:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm part of a group of folks that meet together every year. The total group is about 250, but the get-togethers end up being about 75. It's a contemplative group that is able to be reverential as appropriate. The organizer has a bit of a Quaker background, and we've borrowed a tiny bit of Quaker philosophy as we run meetings. I foolishly suggested it would be nice one of these times to have a Quaker meeting as part of the get-together. I was thinking "emulate," but the organizer took me at my word and thought "attend." :) The organizer suggested some year we could use ACE Center for the conference proper, then attending the Plymouth Monthly Meeting (, I think). Is there another conference center able to accomodate 75 that springs to mind with a Friends congregation nearby that wouldn't mind a bunch of interested interlopers some Sunday or First Day? This year's conference will be at Marconi Center this month, our third time there. It's got integrated lodging and good food, and it's away from everything out on Tomales Bay. Highly recommended for away-from-it-all conferences and group retreats. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:28:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LSfBp027320 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:28:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73489@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:26:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:26:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LQWN31326 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:26:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9LQV6X020737 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:26:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <192035205.20031209152641@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <1ad2291aeada.1aeada1ad229@optonline.net> References: <1ad2291aeada.1aeada1ad229@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > After reading that thing you sent, I am most certainly not joining them > for one of their "feasts". They invited us a couple of weeks ago, but we > were able to decline because we were going to go see Los Lonely Boys. Wise decision. > These are new neighbors. Our original neighbors -- who we adored -- moved > to St. Louis in September. These ones sort of weird me out. Too much lighting. Inside or out? I have very bright lighting indoors, as little as possible outside. It interferes with local fauna. > I did bump into their girls (who are sweet) one morning after they should have > been at school -- I was home with Laszlo -- and they told me that it was a > holiday -- "Bob's birthday". Okay, this is TOTALLY FREAKY!!!!!! And not in a good way. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:29:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LTqBp027378 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:29:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73495@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:27:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:27:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LRgN31625 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:27:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9LRf6X021820 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:27:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <263518681.20031209152751@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <3FD63D55.6000307@maynor.net> References: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD63670.5080502@maynor.net> <1349416823.20031209145745@WordWrite.com> <3FD63D55.6000307@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > How about I call it a "meditation," starting with Clo's suggested "may > we"? (I wouldn't have to keep repeating the may we -- one at the > beginning would handle it all.) I think "meditation" might work. I think of meditations as nonverbal. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LV2Bp027408 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:31:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00210F9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:52 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LSqN31885 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209212847.RYPG1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63E91.6010202@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:28:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <001401c3be9a$36452cd0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <001401c3be9a$36452cd0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > What is a "friend of mind"? An intellectual. Seth is a very intellectual mathematician, who studies theology on the side. And he would make a pretty good Santa since he's somewhat round -- though not white-headed or white-bearded. I've heard that his son is a great success as the Starkville High School yellowjacket -- dressed up as a yellowjacket, buzzing around at sports events. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:31:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LV2Bp027411 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:31:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A734B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LSrN31894 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:53 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77932@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: I wish you enough Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:28:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:06 PM > I wish you enough. I know this has been hashed a lot - a quick Google exercise shows a copyright on the story belonging to a motivational speaker named Bob Perks in 2001. I'm shocked. (seriously) That's at least two years for my grandmother to have seen it - she keeps me current on all of the "forwarded" type of email. I've not seen it before now. (and yes, she's still alive. She lives across the lake from my mom and sends email to the school each day so my mom knows she's made it through the night as she's leaving to go walk her daily three miles.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:32:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LWFBp027465 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:32:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A734B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:30:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 519864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:30:06 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9LU6N32073 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:30:06 -0500 Received: (qmail 17365 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2003 21:30:05 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-5.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2003 21:30:05 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28E8FD7 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:30:04 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071005404!347333 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:30:05 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c3be9b$9cc85990$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Kaminski >Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:28 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? > > >I'm part of a group of folks that meet together every year. The total >group is about 250, but the get-togethers end up being about >75. It's a contemplative group that is able to be reverential as appropriate. > >The organizer has a bit of a Quaker background, and we've >borrowed a tiny bit of Quaker philosophy as we run meetings. > >I foolishly suggested it would be nice one of these times to >have a Quaker meeting as part of the get-together. I was thinking "emulate," but the >organizer took me at my word and thought "attend." :) > >The organizer suggested some year we could use ACE Center > for the >conference proper, then attending the Plymouth Monthly Meeting >(, I think). > >Is there another conference center able to accomodate 75 that >springs to mind with a Friends congregation nearby that wouldn't mind a bunch of >interested interlopers some Sunday or First Day? > >This year's conference will be at Marconi Center > this month, our third time >there. It's got integrated lodging and good food, and it's away from >everything out on Tomales Bay. Highly recommended for away-from-it-all >conferences and group >retreats. > >Pete > As Philly is very Quaker, two are near Philly. Email me for info if needed. Sounds fun. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LZcBp027526 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:35:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A734B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 520068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:33:29 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LXSN32523 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:33:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209213320.SAWR1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:33:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD63FA1.4070507@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:33:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <1ad2291aeada.1aeada1ad229@optonline.net> <192035205.20031209152641@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <192035205.20031209152641@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>been at school -- I was home with Laszlo -- and they told me that it was a >>holiday -- "Bob's birthday". > > Okay, this is TOTALLY FREAKY!!!!!! And not in a good way. I've been skipping quickly through this. Am rushing. But wouldn't Bob be Bab, the inspirer of their religion? If so, why would having a holiday for his birthday be freaky? It's done in a big way for Jesus. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:38:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LcJBp027601 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:38:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A734E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 520242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LaAN00515 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:36:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031209213605.SCHY1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:36:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD64046.3000006@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:36:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? References: <200312092026.hB9KQmN20368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD63670.5080502@maynor.net> <1349416823.20031209145745@WordWrite.com> <3FD63D55.6000307@maynor.net> <263518681.20031209152751@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <263518681.20031209152751@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I think of meditations as nonverbal. Although I've experienced TM, which is nonverbal unless you count the mantra, my primary thought upon hearing the word "meditation" is of things like Donne's meditations. But now I must leave this discussion. Next e-time will be post-banquet. YAY! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:42:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LgIBp027656 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:42:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A734F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 520392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9Le9N00982 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9Le86X003793 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:40:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:40:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5810722975.20031209154018@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > The organizer has a bit of a Quaker background, and we've borrowed a tiny > bit of Quaker philosophy as we run meetings. One of the things I *really* like about Friends' business meeting is the time they allow between agenda topics to focus their thoughts. I've tried to slyly incorporate this into meetings that I run. > I foolishly suggested it would be nice one of these times to have a Quaker > meeting as part of the get-together. I was thinking "emulate," but the > organizer took me at my word and thought "attend." :) Oh. Without checking URLs, I think this is a bad, bad, bad idea. My meeting is large, around 60 people, and we could not accomodate that number of visitors; the meeting room is not large enough. I've no idea how big the Plymouth meeting is, but I'd be surprised if they could do this without having it be an enormous burden. I keep meaning to get a copy of the handout we give to new people--that explains the purpose of meeting and expected behaviors. I will try to remember this week. I really do think you are better off having your own meeting, partly for, um, energy reasons. You are your own community, so it seems more fitting. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9Lj8Bp027726 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7350C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:42:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 520614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:42:59 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9LgxN01382 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:42:59 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:42:54 PST Message-ID: <20031209214254.8732.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:42:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001701c3be9b$9cc85990$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > As Philly is very Quaker, two are near Philly. Email > me for info if needed. > Sounds fun. Plymouth Meeting, PA, location of my alma mater? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:46:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LkbBp027754 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:46:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73515@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:44:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 520708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:44:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LiSN01647 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:44:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021100B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:44:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312092144.hB9LiSN01647@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:44:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:12:43 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >From: Karen Kay >> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > My next door neighbors (who are) pronounce it [b@-HaI'] -- I >> think that's >> > right --that's two syllables with a schwa in the first syllable >> and the stress >> > on the second. Almost sounds like "bye" with an h in the >> middle. I think >> >> That's how I've always heard it. I had a roommate briefly who was >> one--I ended up having to throw her out because she didn't pay her >> rent. > >After reading that thing you sent, I am most certainly not joining them >for one of their "feasts". They invited us a couple of weeks ago, but we >were able to decline because we were going to go see Los Lonely Boys. > >These are new neighbors. Our original neighbors -- who we adored -- moved >to St. Louis in September. These ones sort of weird me out. Too much lighting. > >I did bump into their girls (who are sweet) one morning after they should have >been at school -- I was home with Laszlo -- and they told me that it was a >holiday -- "Bob's birthday". > >Marie I have to run, but want to say that I have known Ba'hai who were not at all pushy or proselytizing; I suspect that, like all faiths, congregations are unfortunate in their enthusiasm. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 15:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9LpdBp027815 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:51:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021102F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:49:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 520990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:49:25 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9LnPN02472 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:49:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00210FFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:49:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200312092149.hB9LnPN02472@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:49:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:30:05 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: English Language Discussion Group >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Kaminski >>Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:28 PM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? >> >> >>I'm part of a group of folks that meet together every year. The total >>group is about 250, but the get-togethers end up being about >>75. It's a contemplative group that is able to be reverential as >appropriate. >> >>The organizer has a bit of a Quaker background, and we've >>borrowed a tiny bit of Quaker philosophy as we run meetings. >> >>I foolishly suggested it would be nice one of these times to >>have a Quaker meeting as part of the get-together. I was thinking >"emulate," but the >>organizer took me at my word and thought "attend." :) >> >>The organizer suggested some year we could use ACE Center >> for the >>conference proper, then attending the Plymouth Monthly Meeting >>(, I think). >> >>Is there another conference center able to accomodate 75 that >>springs to mind with a Friends congregation nearby that wouldn't mind a >bunch of >>interested interlopers some Sunday or First Day? >> >>This year's conference will be at Marconi Center >> this month, our third time >>there. It's got integrated lodging and good food, and it's away from >>everything out on Tomales Bay. Highly recommended for away-from-it-all >>conferences and group >>retreats. >> >>Pete >> > >As Philly is very Quaker, two are near Philly. Email me for info if needed. >Sounds fun. > > >alec > I'm thinking Powell House but really have to run - BrP is shivering on my doorstep as we speak! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9MDNBp028116 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:13:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73691@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:11:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:11:14 -0500 Received: from omr2.verisignmail.com (omrnat4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MBEN06714 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:11:14 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (IDENT:mirapoint@[216.168.230.177]) by omr2.verisignmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9M7uXR001921 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AWI43607; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:11:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:08:28 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anna May Wong Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FD5BB3C.1144.A23266@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 9 Dec 2003 at 15:44, Brad Grissom wrote: > Hi, Michael E. Macmillan, I am hoping the header will attract > your attention. The new winter catalog from MacFarland > (www.mcfarlandpub.com) features this AMW guide on page 1, for > only $45. 69 photos! Thanks for your thoughtful alert. I have, in fact, seen the catalog but not yet ordered the book. I will in good time, of course, but I think I need to wait a little longer for the Bush economic recovery to reach me. Alas, there was no tax refund in my mailbox. > My attention was distracted by "Classics Illustrated: A Cultural > History" (2002; $55), which I probably must add to my > collection. That bears a look too. Many of those went through my hands as a youth. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:15:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9MF1Bp028161 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A736AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:12:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:12:52 -0500 Received: from omr4.verisignmail.com (omrnat1.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MCpN06928 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:12:51 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (IDENT:mirapoint@[216.168.230.177]) by omr4.verisignmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9MDhFV016621 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AWI43904; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:12:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:10:06 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anna May Wong Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FD5BB9E.32420.A3B278@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <932743386.20031209144931@WordWrite.com> References: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 9 Dec 2003 at 14:49, Karen Kay wrote: > One of the authors lives in St. Louis. Will Mem show up for Archfest? Who knows? Rita's charms exert a mighty force. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:16:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9MGqBp028178 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:16:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002111A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:14:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 524625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:14:43 -0500 Received: from omr2.verisignmail.com (omrnat4.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MEhN07228 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:14:43 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (IDENT:mirapoint@[216.168.230.177]) by omr2.verisignmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9MBPXT003439 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AWI44303; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:14:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:11:53 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anna May Wong Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FD5BC09.791.A5549C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001401c3be96$db572880$6b9a1840@computer> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 9 Dec 2003 at 15:56, bogris01 wrote: > (forthcoming). The story of my life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:21:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9ML4Bp028254 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:21:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A736E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:18:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:18:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MItN08029 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:18:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9MIreO021132 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:18:53 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9MIqa2021103; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:18:53 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031209141325.00ba6de0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:13:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? In-Reply-To: <5810722975.20031209154018@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:40 PM 12/9/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Without checking URLs, I think this is a bad, bad, bad idea. My >meeting is large, around 60 people, and we could not accomodate that >number of visitors; the meeting room is not large enough. I've no idea >how big the Plymouth meeting is, but I'd be surprised if they could do >this without having it be an enormous burden. 60 people is large? B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:22:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9MMDBp028274 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:22:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A736DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:20:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:20:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MJuN08137 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:20:04 -0500 Received: by exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:19:49 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77933@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: This should be interesting Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:19:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The NCAA Soccer Final Four is this weekend at Ohio State. This means fans from Bloomington (this is Yeagley's last year as a coach; he is to soccer what John Wooden was to basketball) will likely have to encroach on the turf of the current sniper. Word has it something will be done to step up security on the interstate, but no one knows what will actually be done (or when). Stay tuned. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:26:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9MQeBp028345 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:26:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7370C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:24:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:24:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MOUN08703 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:24:31 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9MNdKX012169 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:23:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:24:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1559515788.20031209162439@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031209141325.00ba6de0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> <5.2.1.1.0.20031209130531.02a0db60@192.168.1.99> <5.1.1.5.2.20031209141325.00ba6de0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Betty Clark wrote: > 60 people is large? It's 3 times the size of the Syracuse meeting. I haven't been to meetings elsewhere, so I don't know how large other meetings are. If they get too large, they tend to split. Also, there are different kinds of Quakers--even evangelical Quakers!! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 16:34:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9MY9Bp028490 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:34:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73741@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:31:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 525806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:31:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9MVxN09868 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:31:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9MVvW1001379 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:31:57 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB9MVuWq001358; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 14:31:57 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031209142637.00bb1b08@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:27:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: This should be interesting In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77933@exchsrvr1.indy.es cient.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:19 PM 12/9/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >The NCAA Soccer Final Four is this weekend at Ohio State. > >This means fans from Bloomington (this is Yeagley's last year as a coach; >he is to soccer what John Wooden was to basketball) will likely have to >encroach on the turf of the current sniper. > >Word has it something will be done to step up security on the interstate, >but no one knows what will actually be done (or when). > >Stay tuned. The volleyball team is heading for Hawaii next week here. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:03:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9N3wBp028953 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:03:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73802@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:01:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 527844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:01:48 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9N1mN14133 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:01:48 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ea.151901db (16335) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:01:32 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ea.151901db.2d07ae4c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:01:32 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/9/2003 10:22:58 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << If I could round up a Russian monk, I would ask him to make an icon for me. >> Try celtlist@yahoogroups.com; there are quite a few Eastern Orthodox members of that list. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:08:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9N8nBp029040 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:08:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73833@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:06:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:06:39 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9N6dN15310 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:06:39 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO002269; 9 Dec 03 18:17:33 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 9 Dec 03 18:17:27 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG002268; 9 Dec 03 18:17:26 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:02:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Uptown heroes Message-ID: <3FD60E45.22646.48A28C75@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3810459628.20031209124017@WordWrite.com> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 9 Dec 2003 at 12:40, Karen Kay wrote: > > http://www.torontofirefighters.com/husar.htm > > I find it interesting that they cite earthquakes and not 9/11 as the > reason for developing this group. Is Toronto so prone to earthquakes? No - Toronto is a mostly earthquake free zone. There's the odd tremor, but the epicentre is general a fair way away (Quebec, Missouri come to mind). We're almost on the Canadian Shield, and that ain't gone anywhere for a billion years or more. (Well, yeah, continental drift, etc. - you know what I mean.) Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NCvBp029082 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:12:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00211320@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:10:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:10:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9NAlN15872 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:10:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9NAj6X017299 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:10:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:10:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1651345151.20031209171055@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Uptown heroes In-Reply-To: <3FD60E45.22646.48A28C75@localhost> References: <3FD60E45.22646.48A28C75@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Tony Harminc wrote: > No - Toronto is a mostly earthquake free zone. There's the odd > tremor, but the epicentre is general a fair way away (Quebec, > Missouri come to mind). We're almost on the Canadian Shield, and that > ain't gone anywhere for a billion years or more. (Well, yeah, > continental drift, etc. - you know what I mean.) Yes. I guess they just didn't want to say the t word out loud. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:22:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NMgBp029243 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:22:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73885@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:20:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:20:32 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9NAVN15813 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:10:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 1895 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 23:10:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:10:29 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209231029.GA1421@words-l.org> References: <20031209064753.GA88437@words-l.org> <20031209134408.14989.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209134408.14989.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:44:08AM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > I assure you, if my imagination were healthier, it > would be a source of great wonderment. Forsooth ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:24:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NOOBp029269 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:24:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73870@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:22:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:22:14 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9NCDN16055 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:12:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 2282 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 23:12:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:12:11 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: On multiple Jerry Garcias... Message-ID: <20031209231211.GB1421@words-l.org> References: <1384709227.20031207165327@WordWrite.com> <20031209071446.GA93719@words-l.org> <20031209115907.GA1581@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031209115907.GA1581@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 12:59:07PM +0100, steph wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog: > = On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:53:27PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > = > http://www.tjmonkeys.com/thought.php?theid=48 > = > = I am impressed that you finished it. It reads like your average > = highly literate wordsler grappling with the intimidating project > = of rigging an extended sequence of English sentences. > > Ah, I feel better now. I couldn't finish it. Suit yourself. I personally feel awful. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:26:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NQHBp029300 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:26:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73892@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:24:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:24:07 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9NE6N16336 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:14:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 2951 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 23:14:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:14:04 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209231404.GC1421@words-l.org> References: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 10:55:21AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Imagine when I look at the receipt later that night and > >find his name is "Juice". Juice. God, what the hell. > > > >JUICE. > > I do have to wonder what name he found "Juice" preferable to. Othello. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NfYBp029602 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:41:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A738A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:29:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 528862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:29:23 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9NJ5N16924 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:19:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 4389 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 23:19:01 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:19:01 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209231901.GD1421@words-l.org> References: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <117232241.20031209095915@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <117232241.20031209095915@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:59:15AM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I do have to wonder what name he found "Juice" preferable to. > > Or if his initials are O.J. That's a highly humorous take on the situation, K4r3n. If I see a tough guy called "Juice" on his feet and flawlessly keeping 45 capricious diners in line, I generally refrain from witty remarks ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:42:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NggBp029623 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:42:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A738E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:40:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:40:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9NeVN18988 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:40:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hB9NdOKX007405 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:39:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:40:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1034591102.20031209174016@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031209231901.GD1421@words-l.org> References: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <117232241.20031209095915@WordWrite.com> <20031209231901.GD1421@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > I generally refrain from witty remarks ... Indeed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:43:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NhfBp029652 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:43:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A738E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:41:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 529866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:41:31 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9NfVN19080 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:41:31 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9NfPTs3719212 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:41:25 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:41:25 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77926@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77926@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -- Richard On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > St. Jude, Patriot Saint of Lost Causes? s/Patriot/patron ...or am I missing a John Ashcroft joke? s/Lost Causes/Desperate Situations ...if you want to be PC in the 21st Century From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 17:59:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hB9NxiBp029883 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:59:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73912@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:57:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:57:34 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9NvXN20640 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:57:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9Nut4O000230 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:56:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD66117.4040908@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:56:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Anna May Wong References: <000d01c3be95$3fb90340$6b9a1840@computer> <3FD5BB9E.32420.A3B278@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 9 Dec 2003 at 14:49, Karen Kay wrote: > > >>One of the authors lives in St. Louis. Will Mem show up for Archfest? >> > > Who knows? Rita's charms exert a mighty force. Smooch! Helluva day. I needed that ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 18:02:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA02gBp029975 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:02:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7391C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:00:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:00:32 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA00VN20946 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:00:31 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9Nxr4O004654 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:59:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD661CA.3000909@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 17:59:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Fun with Google Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pointed out to me by one of my ruffians: Go to google and do a search on miserable failure, click feeling lucky. Do the same with a search for weapons of mass destruction. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 18:05:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA053Bp029993 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:05:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:02:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 530333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:02:53 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9NqrN20171 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:52:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 15502 invoked by uid 1003); 9 Dec 2003 23:52:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:52:50 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour Message-ID: <20031209235250.GA15043@words-l.org> References: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <117232241.20031209095915@WordWrite.com> <20031209231901.GD1421@words-l.org> <1034591102.20031209174016@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1034591102.20031209174016@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:40:16PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > I generally refrain from witty remarks ... > > Indeed. Yeah ... You wouldn't know how difficult it is to refrain ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 18:33:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA0XABp030466 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A739B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:31:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 531958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:31:00 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA0V0N23732 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:31:00 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-158-192.gwi.net [216.195.158.192]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBA0UvAt012370; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:30:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209192944.00b69840@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:30:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Fun with Google In-Reply-To: <3FD661CA.3000909@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:59 PM 12/9/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Pointed out to me by one of my ruffians: > >Go to google and do a search on miserable failure, click >feeling lucky. I note that there are links to his career in business, etc., but no links to his sterling military record. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 18:38:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA0cQBp030572 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:38:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A739C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:36:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:36:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA0aGN24110 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:36:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.34.4300a11c (3924) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:36:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <34.4300a11c.2d07c475@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:36:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Prayer? Exhortation? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/9/2003 3:00:14 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << Who is Bob Henderson? >> One of my friends at Sears, but I think he's not the one mentioned in the article. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 18:57:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA0vtBp030967 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:57:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A739F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:55:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 532728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:55:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA0tgN25698 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:55:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBA0soKX028870 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:54:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:55:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1864326884.20031209185551@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Dessert and Rice Flour In-Reply-To: <20031209235250.GA15043@words-l.org> References: <200312091555.hB9FtLS03469@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <117232241.20031209095915@WordWrite.com> <20031209231901.GD1421@words-l.org> <1034591102.20031209174016@WordWrite.com> <20031209235250.GA15043@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:40:16PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > I generally refrain from witty remarks ... >> >> Indeed. > Yeah ... You wouldn't know how difficult it is to refrain ... Oh, yeah?! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 19:28:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA1ScBp031504 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:28:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00211571@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:26:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 533387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:26:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA1GRN27787 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:16:27 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBA1FDm9020883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:15:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:16:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Progress re Communal Living Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think few things are as difficult, challenging, and satisfying as living in community in some way. Right now, I am learning to do this at HH. We have a dynamic board that is proposing some very positive changes re maintainance, fees, etc. Tonight, residents of my building met with 3 board members to discuss all this. There will be a general meeting Dec. 18 - it should be very interesting. Also, I learned that I own over 2.5% of this 92-unit condo association. Most individuals/families own about 1%. That's staggering! King of the hill! And I met my last class of the semester tonight - I had a great group of students. I'd love to keep going with all of them for another semester (I will see many of them in my Language & Law course in the Spring). Now let me get some mss. finished ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 19:47:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA1lhBp031829 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:47:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73A72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:45:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 534193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:44:40 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA1idN30095 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:44:39 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBA1i1s3028411 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:44:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD67A31.9050200@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:43:13 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: stomach virus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is just to say, on top of everything else I dealt with today (psych evals, students leaving on stretchers, etc.), the current stomach virus going around first makes itself evident with the most utterly vile smelling farts you've ever encountered. And many students are coming down with this virus. In my opinion, you haven't lived until you've experienced extra potent teenager farts in a small, overcrowded classroom on a rainy day. All day. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 20:15:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA2FPBp032288 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:15:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73AEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:13:13 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBA2DDN00677 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:13:13 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:13:07 PST Message-ID: <20031210021307.24791.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:13:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1ea.151901db.2d07ae4c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: Thanks! Thought I had tried all the Celt groups. Bears investigation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 20:16:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA2GdBp032313 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:16:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73AF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:14:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:14:28 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBA2ESN00785 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:14:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:14:23 PST Message-ID: <20031210021423.2336.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:14:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Dessert and Rice Flour To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031209231029.GA1421@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:44:08AM -0800, Lynne > Weber wrote: > > I assure you, if my imagination were healthier, it > > would be a source of great wonderment. > > Forsooth ... Sooth! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 20:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA2M2Bp032418 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:22:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:19:51 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBA2JFN01173 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:19:15 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 18:19:09 PST Message-ID: <20031210021909.14399.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:19:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: stomach virus To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD67A31.9050200@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: In my opinion, you haven't lived until > you've > experienced extra potent teenager farts in a small, > overcrowded classroom on a rainy day. All day. You are just an incurable romantic. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 20:30:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA2URBp032543 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:30:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73B2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:28:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 535410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:28:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA2IGN01113 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:18:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBA2H1m9008185 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:17:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Natalie - Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU from another list: "I rather suspect that the vastly overwhelming majority of Americans have never been overseas (maybe we shouldn't count people who went with the military or Peace Corps), and perhaps the majority have never been out of their own state. Partly it's that travel is pretty cussedly expensive everywhere, but partly that they don't have any particular desire to." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 20:42:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA2glBp032724 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:42:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73B55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:40:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:40:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA2eaN02991 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:40:36 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1e5.152cc1ff (3996) for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:40:26 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1e5.152cc1ff.2d07e199@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:40:25 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/9/2003 8:13:31 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Thanks! Thought I had tried all the Celt groups. Bears investigation. >> I originally became interested in the group due to my interest in both Druids and early Celtic Christians. The Orthodox influence on the list I consider a bonus. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 20:44:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA2iiBp032737 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:44:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73B5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:42:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 536252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:42:33 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f22.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA2gXN03235 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:42:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:42:27 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.157 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:42:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.157] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:42:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2003 02:42:27.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[3FC2B480:01C3BEC7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay: >= His special on obesity last night made me feel so much less mutant >= about seeing Archer Daniels Midland as the Evil Empire. >= >= Karen > >You don't have to feel mutant. I've been sure for a while that >they and Monsanto are most of the Evil Empire. And me. I despise ADM and all the politicians, journalists, policy people they've bought off. I didn't see the special but YaY to Peter Jennings for doing it. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 21:42:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA3g3Bp001321 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:42:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73C2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 538505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA3dpN08824 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002117B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200312100339.hBA3dpN08824@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: stomach virus To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:19:09 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Rita Chapman wrote: >In my opinion, you haven't lived until >> you've >> experienced extra potent teenager farts in a small, >> overcrowded classroom on a rainy day. All day. > >You are just an incurable romantic. > ...*counting incubation times* We'll be asking to talk to Ana in abt a week, to check up on you. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 21:55:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA3tlBp001628 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:55:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:53:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:53:35 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBA3rZN10439 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:53:35 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:53:30 PST Message-ID: <20031210035330.15201.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: stomach virus To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312100339.hBA3dpN08824@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > ...*counting incubation times* > We'll be asking to talk to Ana in abt a week, to > check up > on you. Do you still have a lot of snow on the ground? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 21:58:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA3wABp001671 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:58:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73C7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:55:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:55:58 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA3twN10692 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:55:58 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5D7BE2B574; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:55:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7752B56A for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:55:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: cloven sky Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The 'cloven sky' sung in the carol "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear" always confused me as a child. I associated it with cloves, or with cloven hoofs. It occurred to me to google on "cloven sky" tonight to find the rest of the lyrics (do you call words to carols 'lyrics'?) I learned (I think) that 'cloven sky' means dark sky split by rays of dawn. I also found the phrase in George Herbert and in translations of Song of Roland. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 21:59:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA3xoBp001694 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 21:59:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73C9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:57:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 539716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:57:38 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA3vcN10996 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:57:38 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 02F9E2B8DC; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E392B559 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:57:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:57:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: customer service Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I get an e-mailed reply to my customer service inquiry, inquiry made this a.m. and reply received 7:30 PST, that means I'm probably being replied to outside our continent, right? Right. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:06:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA46ABp001820 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:06:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00211917@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:03:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 541808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:03:58 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA43wN12452 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:03:58 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031210040350016008cndre>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:03:51 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209200255.040e9c38@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:06:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: customer service In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >When I get an e-mailed reply to my customer service inquiry, inquiry made >this a.m. and reply received 7:30 PST, that means I'm probably being >replied to outside our continent, right? Right. Depends. It's not strange to get an evening response from some of the little Internet companies I know. Craig Newmark himself once replied, very quickly, to a spam complaint I sent to abuse@craigslist in the late evening. I know other companies that have support staff who work a split shift, so they have coverage 6-10pm or so. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:12:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA4COBp001910 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:12:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73EA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:10:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 543713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:10:12 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBA4ABN13575 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:10:11 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:10:06 PST Message-ID: <20031210041006.97599.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:10:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: customer service To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > When I get an e-mailed reply to my customer service > inquiry, inquiry made > this a.m. and reply received 7:30 PST, that means > I'm probably being > replied to outside our continent, right? Right. Aren't you PST? It would depend on what time you made the inquiry. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:14:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA4EQBp001974 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:14:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73ECC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:12:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 544036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:12:14 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBA4CDN13881 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:12:13 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:12:08 PST Message-ID: <20031210041208.19382.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: cloven sky To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > The 'cloven sky' sung in the carol "It Came Upon a > Midnight Clear" always > confused me as a child. I associated it with > cloves, or with cloven > hoofs. > > It occurred to me to google on "cloven sky" tonight > to find the rest of > the lyrics (do you call words to carols 'lyrics'?) > > I learned (I think) that 'cloven sky' means dark sky > split by rays of > dawn. Quite "lyrical". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA4TDBp002216 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:29:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A73EEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:27:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 544282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:27:01 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA4R1N14675 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:27:01 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20031210042654016008dsrle>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:26:54 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031209200710.03bb1dc8@192.168.1.99> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:29:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Email Attachment Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You'd be doing me a small personal favor if you sent an email with an attachment (or two or three) to "attach@socialtext.com", to help test some attachment-handling code I just finished. If it works correctly, the email and attachments will be saved to my server, and you won't see anything. I'll delete everything in a few days. If you see a bounce, however, I'd like to know about it so I can fix it. A large number of messages isn't as important as variety, especially old or weird mailers or odd sorts of attachments. Thanks in advance! Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:47:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA4lgBp002482 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:47:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A73F4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:45:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 545324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:45:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA4jTN15950 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:45:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBA4jPrm027645 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:45:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:45:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1593799181.20031209224532@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > And me. I despise ADM and all the politicians, journalists, policy people > they've bought off. I didn't see the special but YaY to Peter > Jennings for doing it. It was very interesting to see some of the slimeballs in person. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:49:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA4nkBp002496 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:49:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73F61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:47:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 545373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:47:34 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA4lYN16080 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:47:34 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 771B62B559; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A1F2B137 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:47:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 20:47:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wintry hello In-Reply-To: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Janet Hardy wrote: > lot. (No, this stream-of-consciousness post is not a sample.) I'll be glad > to get it out of here, though, and get back to work on "Radical Ecstasy," > which is my big work still. "Radical Ecstacy" is a REALLY GOOD title. And, "'Radical Ecstasy,' which is my big work still" is a pretty funny stretch of prose. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 22:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA4w6Bp002576 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:58:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A73F88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:55:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 545760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:55:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA4tsN16695 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:55:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBA4t3KX005757 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:55:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:56:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1328771190.20031209225605@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: customer service In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 09, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > When I get an e-mailed reply to my customer service inquiry, inquiry made > this a.m. and reply received 7:30 PST, that means I'm probably being > replied to outside our continent, right? Right. Depends on who it's from. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 9 23:33:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA5XABp003038 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A740F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 0:30:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 548760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:30:58 -0500 Received: from sccimhc02.asp.att.net (sccimhc02.asp.att.net [63.240.76.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA5UwN20133 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:30:58 -0500 Received: from willows.meadowsedge.net (12-223-225-168.client.insightbb.com[12.223.225.168]) by sccimhc02.asp.att.net (sccimhc02) with ESMTP id <20031210053038im20084ptue>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:30:38 +0000 Received: from kiva.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by willows.meadowsedge.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F8CBC3923 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:35:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:35:42 -0500 From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: This should be interesting Message-Id: <20031210003542.370522ad.flint@kiva.net> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77933@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77933@exchsrvr1.indy.escient.com> Organization: Lamplighter Enterprises X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Go IU soccer! W00T! -- Take care, Tom Lee Yes, I said "w00t." I'll go that far. On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:19:47 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > The NCAA Soccer Final Four is this weekend at Ohio State. > > This means fans from Bloomington (this is Yeagley's last year as a coach; > he is to soccer what John Wooden was to basketball) will likely have to > encroach on the turf of the current sniper. > > Word has it something will be done to step up security on the interstate, > but no one knows what will actually be done (or when). > > Stay tuned. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 00:08:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA68tBp003472 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:08:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A741B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 1:06:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 550471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:06:43 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA66hN23299 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:06:43 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4d.38a5128a (4592) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:06:32 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.38a5128a.2d0811e8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:06:32 EST Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/9/2003 2:20:12 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >Is "baha'i" prounced [ba-HA-i] (baaa like a sheep, streesed HA as in haha, i as in IPA symbol -- rhymes with see)? > That's the way I would pronounce it. Is there another way? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 00:51:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA6pHBp004461 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:51:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7421E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 1:49:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 551053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:49:05 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA6n4N25288 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:49:04 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.6b.1e613bae (4592) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:48:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.1e613bae.2d081bd2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:48:50 EST Subject: Re: I wish you enough To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/9/2003 3:29:10 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >I know this has been hashed a lot - a quick Google exercise shows a copyright on the story belonging to a motivational speaker named Bob Perks >in 2001. ------- Thanks for letting me know. If I had known I would have given him the credit of course, but my dau evidently didn't either, with the fatal result. Theo > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 01:13:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBA7DTBp004700 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:13:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 2:11:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 551794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:11:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBA7BGN27731 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:11:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.190.238d89a5 (4592) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:11:06 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <190.238d89a5.2d08210a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:11:06 EST Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:00:51 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >Why is that? Holly's her only (and will likely be her only) DIL. Besides, if I tried to unload Holly, my mom would probably disown me. > Boy, are the both of you lucky! I heard much the same for 33 years! Then my ex traded me in for a newer model :-( Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 05:50:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBABonBp008111 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:50:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A743EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 6:48:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 555517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:48:34 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBABmXN10665 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:48:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBABmVvJ004169 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:48:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD707BD.7070408@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:47:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: stomach virus References: <200312100339.hBA3dpN08824@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:19:09 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>--- Rita Chapman wrote: >>In my opinion, you haven't lived until >> >>>you've >>>experienced extra potent teenager farts in a small, >>>overcrowded classroom on a rainy day. All day. >>> >>You are just an incurable romantic. >> >> > > ...*counting incubation times* > We'll be asking to talk to Ana in abt a week, to check up > on you. Ha :). I've been pretty resiliant to cooties this year, but my partner from Special went down with it yesterday (or she's pregnant). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 06:22:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBACMRBp008510 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:22:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7442C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 7:20:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 556067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:20:05 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBACK5N32076 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:20:05 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.138.28e76a2b (4222) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <138.28e76a2b.2d086967@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:19:51 EST Subject: snowed in To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We had the first snow of the season, and it has pretty well iced over the sidewalks, so I can't even walk out to the parking lot so someone can pick me up Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:12:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADCXBp009038 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:12:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A745C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:10:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 559979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:10:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBADAHN06265 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:10:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBADAFAr095209 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:10:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:10:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <1593799181.20031209224532@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > And me. I despise ADM and all the politicians, journalists, policy people > > they've bought off. I didn't see the special but YaY to Peter > > Jennings for doing it. > >It was very interesting to see some of the slimeballs in person. >Karen, practicing fierce optimism For those of us way out of touch with our culture, could you please explain who ADM is and why Peter Jennings would give ADM a mention in a special on obesity? Please? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:14:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADESBp009066 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:14:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002120DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 560083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:12:12 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBADCCN06673 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:12:12 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:12:04 PST Message-ID: <20031210131204.51743.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:12:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: snowed in To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <138.28e76a2b.2d086967@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > We had the first snow of the season, and it has > pretty well > iced over the sidewalks, so I can't even walk out to > the > parking lot so someone can pick me up I guess, in a way, it's a good thing you can't get to work. Aren't you usually off on Wed.? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADFYBp009098 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:15:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A745F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:13:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 560224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:13:19 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBADDJN07203 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:13:19 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:13:13 PST Message-ID: <20031210131313.52202.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:13:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > For those of us way out of touch with our culture, > could you please explain > who ADM is and why Peter Jennings would give ADM a > mention in a special on > obesity? Please? ADM - Archer Daniels Midland - huge agricultural conglomerate. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:21:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADLDBp009146 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:21:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7460E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:18:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 560843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:18:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBADIvN08497 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:18:57 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBADIuGn081191 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:18:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:19:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20031210131313.52202.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > For those of us way out of touch with our culture, > > could you please explain > > who ADM is and why Peter Jennings would give ADM a > > mention in a special on > > obesity? Please? > > >ADM - Archer Daniels Midland - huge agricultural >conglomerate. And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural conglomerate effect obesity in America? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:28:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADSbBp009197 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:28:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74662@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:26:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:26:21 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBADQLN10101 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:26:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16e.277eda2b (4402) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:26:12 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16e.277eda2b.2d0878f4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:26:12 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] snowed in To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 7:12:42 AM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << I guess, in a way, it's a good thing you can't get to work. Aren't you usually off on Wed.? >> Yes, but this week she had me scheduled every day until Saturday. Poor little Bennie can't understand why he can't go on his walks, why he's restricted to home. Sweetie, on the other hand, couldn't care less; she's an indoor cat. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:35:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADZ8Bp009277 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:35:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7467B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:32:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:32:52 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBADWqN10807 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:32:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.223]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210133247.GGWL1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:32:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD72080.7020806@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:32:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: A Smashing Success Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The ARF banquet went fine. And various people complimented me on the invocation afterwards -- sincere compliments, not the typical "nice invocation" or "your invocation was good." I called it a meditation, saying at the beginning, "For the invocation I want to read a short, anonymous meditation that seems fitting for the season." I added "May we" at the beginning and changed "thy" to "our" in "guarded in our speech." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:36:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADaGBp009289 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:36:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74668@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:34:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 561751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:34:00 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBADY0N10918 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:34:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.131.223]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210133355.GHHF1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:33:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD720C5.4060102@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:33:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > from another list: > > "I rather suspect that the vastly overwhelming majority of Americans have > never been overseas (maybe we shouldn't count people who went with the > military or Peace Corps), and perhaps the majority have never been out of > their own state. Partly it's that travel is pretty cussedly expensive > everywhere, but partly that they don't have any particular desire to." And your point is what exactly? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADgOBp009359 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:42:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A746AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:40:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 562197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:40:08 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBADe8N11942 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:40:08 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:40:02 PST Message-ID: <20031210134002.74111.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:40:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural > conglomerate effect obesity in > America? I defer to Ms. Kay. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 07:59:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBADx8Bp009567 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:59:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74708@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 8:56:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 563262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:56:49 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBADunN14315 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:56:49 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:56:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:56:35 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: IMFTATL: Friends meeting for a group? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBADx8Bp009567 As it turned out, I wasn't shivering on the doorstep at all but in clo's warm living room discussing the history of the Syracuse Women's Information Center with her daughter Mercy. :-) BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/09/03 04:49PM >>> I'm thinking Powell House but really have to run - BrP is shivering on my doorstep as we speak! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 08:49:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAEnSBp010144 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:49:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A748A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 9:47:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 567303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:47:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAElCN24132 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:47:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021238F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 9:47:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200312101447.hBAElCN24132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:47:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: stomach virus To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 19:53:30 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> ...*counting incubation times* >> We'll be asking to talk to Ana in abt a week, to >> check up >> on you. > >Do you still have a lot of snow on the ground? > It's melting today, but until yesterday we had more ice than snow - we really didn't get belted the way Rashmi and other coastal wordslers did. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 08:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAEs4Bp010193 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:54:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A748EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 9:51:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 567816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:51:47 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAEplN25411 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:51:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A748D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 9:51:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200312101451.hBAEplN25411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:51:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Smashing Success To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:32:48 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >The ARF banquet went fine. And various people complimented me on the >invocation afterwards -- sincere compliments, not the typical "nice >invocation" or "your invocation was good." I called it a meditation, >saying at the beginning, "For the invocation I want to read a short, >anonymous meditation that seems fitting for the season." I added "May >we" at the beginning and changed "thy" to "our" in "guarded in our speech." > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) YaY! I'm glad all your work paid off. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 09:12:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAFCTBp010431 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:12:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A749CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:10:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 569842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:10:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAFACN30184 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:10:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAF9LKX002144 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:09:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:10:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <763782377.20031210091026@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural conglomerate effect obesity in > America? Assuming that's not a typo, that's exactly the point. There was a nutritionist on there, whose name I didn't catch, unfortunately, who said that when she became a nutritionist, she didn't think she'd have to know about agriculture, but that's where all of her research has been, because agricultural interests control the food we are able to buy. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 09:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAFL2Bp010540 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:21:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74A38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 570866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAFIjN32270 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:18:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAFIirm012563 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:18:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:18:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <875589152.20031210091859@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > For those of us way out of touch with our culture, could you please explain > who ADM is and why Peter Jennings would give ADM a mention in a special on > obesity? Please? I lay the current obesity epidemic at the foot of high fructose corn syrup. And so, more or less, did Peter Jennings. ADM is the leading producer of HFCS--I think they have a patent on it. In any case, they have finagled large corn subsidies: no other vegetable has a subsidy. The example that PJ gave of how insidious this is is the movie theater--when you buy popcorn, the container it comes in is more expensive than the popcorn itself. The popcorn is cooked in subsidized corn oil, drizzled with fake butter made from corn, and you drink soda made with HFCS. He gave other examples--he introduced to the man who is responsible for introducing HFCS into cranberry juice, for example. It was clearly a biased piece, but it present a view of the food industry that we don't often see. And he presented a vision of the food industry fruits and vegetables would be subsidized so that it would be easier for people to eat healthily. I'd say that PJ is practicing fierce optimism, too, and I applaud him for it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 09:26:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAFQ2Bp010597 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:26:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74A55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 571364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:23:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAFNjN00909 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:23:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAFNirm017866 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:23:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:23:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <358203625.20031210092359@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: stomach virus In-Reply-To: <3FD707BD.7070408@swbell.net> References: <200312100339.hBA3dpN08824@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD707BD.7070408@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Ha :). I've been pretty resiliant to cooties this year, but > my partner from Special went down with it yesterday (or > she's pregnant). I guess the only sure way to tell is to smell her farts.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 09:31:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAFVdBp010725 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:31:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74AA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:29:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 571926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:29:23 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAFTNN02190 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:29:23 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.151.27fe0139 (26116) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:29:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <151.27fe0139.2d0895c5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:29:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad Peter Jennings felt free enough to expose ADM on his show; it was a big sponsor of ABC's This Week. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 09:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAFk1Bp010905 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:46:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74AFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:43:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 572196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:43:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAFXhN02843 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:33:43 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBAFWTIi009692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:32:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:33:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - In-Reply-To: <3FD720C5.4060102@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FD720C5.4060102@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> "I rather suspect that the vastly overwhelming majority of Americans have >> never been overseas (maybe we shouldn't count people who went with the >> military or Peace Corps), and perhaps the majority have never been out of >> their own state. Partly it's that travel is pretty cussedly expensive >> everywhere, but partly that they don't have any particular desire to." > >And your point is what exactly? Self-evident, I think. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAG3ZBp011230 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:03:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74BAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 574486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAG1IN08646 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:01:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBAG12W1011146 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:01:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBAG10Wq011078; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:01:01 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:03:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <875589152.20031210091859@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:18 AM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >The example that PJ gave of how insidious this is is the movie >theater--when you buy popcorn, the container it comes in is more >expensive than the popcorn itself. True for coffee to go, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:07:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAG7rBp011308 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:07:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74BE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:05:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 574913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:05:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAG5ZN09516 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:05:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAG4jKX007091 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:04:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:05:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1591342665.20031210100549@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Should I worry? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So, I'm almost done rebuilding my system. (I was reminded this morning that I still need to re-install Microsoft Office.) I think that what happened is that I got infected with some sort of worm. My first clue to this was that Norton AV stopped running, and even when I reinstalled it, it wouldn't run. Up till that time, Norton had detected nothing, and I depend heavily on Norton. I have it checking all my e-mail in and out, and I have it check my hard drives once/day. Anyway, I decided to try McAffee, borrowed it from a friend, installed the latest updates. McAffee detected nothing, but after a while, McAffee stopped working, and I started losing other sorts of functionality. That's when I reformatted my hard drive and re-installed Windows. So far, my system is running fine. But what puzzles me is that AFAIK there was no widespread alert about a worm disabling computers. How did it sneak past Norton to attack it, and why was I the only one? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:08:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAG8bBp011316 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:08:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74BE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:06:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 575024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:06:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAG6KN09723 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:06:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAG6J6X012133 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:06:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:06:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1214590003.20031210100634@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 09:18 AM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>The example that PJ gave of how insidious this is is the movie >>theater--when you buy popcorn, the container it comes in is more >>expensive than the popcorn itself. > True for coffee to go, too. The container is more expensive than the coffee? I guess it depends on the coffee. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:12:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGCoBp011366 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:12:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74C05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:10:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 575426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:10:33 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGAXN10655 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:10:33 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPO0031GSYC7N@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:06:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:06:15 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ef9031f17e1.1f17e11ef903@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Carolyn Ostrander > >After reading that thing you sent, I am most certainly not > joining them > >for one of their "feasts". They invited us a couple of weeks ago, > but we > >were able to decline because we were going to go see Los Lonely Boys. > > I have to run, but want to say that I have known Ba'hai who were > not at all > pushy or proselytizing; I suspect that, like all faiths, > congregations are unfortunate in their enthusiasm. Oh, I realize that, but I found his comment weird a couple of mornings later. I was out with Laszlo (I see everyone when I'm out with Laszlo), and he was at the bus stop with his daughter. And he said, "It's a shame you couldn't come on Saturday. It would have been good for you to meet some people." Sounds innocent enough, but remember, he's the new one in the neighborhood. I already know people. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:15:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGFgBp011432 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:15:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74C26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 575644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGDIN11155 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBAGDGW1025351 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:13:16 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBAGDCWq025266; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:13:13 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031210081359.00b3c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:15:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <1214590003.20031210100634@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:06 AM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Betty wrote: > > At 09:18 AM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > > >>The example that PJ gave of how insidious this is is the movie > >>theater--when you buy popcorn, the container it comes in is more > >>expensive than the popcorn itself. > > > True for coffee to go, too. > >The container is more expensive than the coffee? I guess it depends on >the coffee. Yes. Maybe if places use those Styrofoam cups it may not be true. I'm talking about a "good" cup of coffee here, not McDonald's hot stuff. A person who runs a coffee cart told me this. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:16:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGGBBp011438 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:16:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74C2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 575696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:54 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGDsN11232 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:54 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPO00G17T31JX@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:09:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:09:37 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1ef6e91f0e4c.1f0e4c1ef6e9@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Lynne Weber > --- bonniev wrote: > > And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural > > conglomerate effect obesity in > > America? > > I defer to Ms. Kay. It's really quite simple. Subsidies, overproduction, and high fructose corn syrup. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:22:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGMBBp011534 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:22:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74C52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:19:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 576145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:19:54 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGJrx12197 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:19:54 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.72.190]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPOT2K01.MD7 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3FD7479A.97BB8D6B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:19:38 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <763782377.20031210091026@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > because agricultural interests control the food we are able to > buy. In other words, class, farmers grow our food! Wow, what a shocker. > I lay the current obesity epidemic at the foot of high fructose corn > syrup. And so, more or less, did Peter Jennings. > It wouldn't have anything to do with people, like, eating or anything? > ADM is the leading > producer of HFCS--I think they have a patent on it. In any case, they > have finagled large corn subsidies: no other vegetable has a subsidy. > Did the magic word "Congress" come up at any time? Its plain I need to watch more teevee - I didn't even know corn was a vegetable. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:28:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGSPBp011580 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:28:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74C89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 576804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:26:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGQ8x13717 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:26:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAGQ7rm029245 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:26:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:26:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1847907301.20031210102622@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <3FD7479A.97BB8D6B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <763782377.20031210091026@WordWrite.com> <3FD7479A.97BB8D6B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, John Williams wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> because agricultural interests control the food we are able to >> buy. > In other words, class, farmers grow our food! Wow, what a shocker. No. Agricultural lobbyists control what food gets grown. A slightly different point. >> I lay the current obesity epidemic at the foot of high fructose corn >> syrup. And so, more or less, did Peter Jennings. >> > It wouldn't have anything to do with people, like, eating or anything? Sure--PJ was talking about *what is available to eat*. > Its plain I need to watch more teevee - I didn't even know corn was a > vegetable. What did you think it was? Meat? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:30:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGUiBp011642 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:30:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74CCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:28:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:28:21 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAGSLx14162 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:28:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 8865 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2003 16:28:19 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-18.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2003 16:28:19 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA4B10C1 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:28:19 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-18.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071073699!354781 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Should I worry? Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:28:19 -0500 Message-ID: <004e01c3bf3a$9f706ee0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <1591342665.20031210100549@WordWrite.com> Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBAGSLx14163 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay >Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:06 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Should I worry? > > >So, I'm almost done rebuilding my system. (I was reminded this morning >that I still need to re-install Microsoft Office.) > >I think that what happened is that I got infected with some sort of >worm. My first clue to this was that Norton AV stopped running, and >even when I reinstalled it, it wouldn't run. Up till that time, Norton >had detected nothing, and I depend heavily on Norton. I have it >checking all my e-mail in and out, and I have it check my hard drives >once/day. Anyway, I decided to try McAffee, borrowed it from a friend, >installed the latest updates. McAffee detected nothing, but after a >while, McAffee stopped working, and I started losing other sorts of >functionality. > >That's when I reformatted my hard drive and re-installed Windows. So >far, my system is running fine. > >But what puzzles me is that AFAIK there was no widespread alert about >a worm disabling computers. How did it sneak past Norton to attack it, >and why was I the only one? > >Karen > A few quick things, if you don't have, get a free copy of Zone Alarm. It has saved me a great deal. A worm can sneak by most anti-virus programs. Also, I can't stress this enough, do the Microsoft updates when they issue them. Blaster is still around and active. Updated Norton helps, I assume you have it update daily. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:36:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGasBp011694 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:36:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74CE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:34:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:34:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGYax15147 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:34:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAGYZ6X012994 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:34:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:34:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1326131878.20031210103450@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Should I worry? In-Reply-To: <004e01c3bf3a$9f706ee0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: <004e01c3bf3a$9f706ee0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > A few quick things, if you don't have, get a free copy of Zone Alarm. It > has saved me a great deal. I use Kerio--my e-mail program won't work with ZA. > A worm can sneak by most anti-virus programs. Why? (In 25 words or less; I'm just looking for a generality.) I keep thinking antibiotics and viruses... > Also, I can't stress this enough, do the Microsoft updates when they issue > them. Blaster is still around and active. Updated Norton helps, I assume you > have it update daily. I do do the Microsoft updates, and I have Norton update whenever there is a new update. (There's no point in running it as often as I do if you don't. Thanks, Alec. I felt like I was doing the right things, which you've confirmed, and this still happened. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGbXBp011704 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:37:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021288E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGZFx15269 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00212892@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312101635.hBAGZFx15269@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: stomach virus To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:23:59 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> Ha :). I've been pretty resiliant to cooties this year, but >> my partner from Special went down with it yesterday (or >> she's pregnant). > >I guess the only sure way to tell is to smell her farts.:) > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Omigosh, I never knew this about you, Karen. A quote in the logbook at our camp: "Everyone farts, but only a select few talk about it at breakfast" Welcome to the few, the tough in stomach, the breakfast club. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:42:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGgBBp011761 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:42:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A74D2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:39:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 577989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:39:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGdox15939 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:39:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAGdnrm013946 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:39:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:40:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1766594547.20031210104004@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Price of beans In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031210081359.00b3c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <4.2.2.20031210080309.00a2d650@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031210081359.00b3c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 10:06 AM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>The container is more expensive than the coffee? I guess it depends on >>the coffee. > Yes. Maybe if places use those Styrofoam cups it may not be true. I'm > talking about a "good" cup of coffee here, not McDonald's hot stuff. A > person who runs a coffee cart told me this. Google is our friend! From http://www.sallys-place.com/beverages/coffee/supermarket.htm "First, let's dispel any question about the cost of coffee. One pound of whole beans will make 40 six-ounce cups. If you bought the most expensive specialty coffee at $12 a pound, you would be paying 30 cents for a cup of coffee." So I guess it's not surprising that the cup costs more than the coffee. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:45:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGjhBp011827 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:45:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74D3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 578280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGhQx16593 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAGgZKX016781 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:42:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:43:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1806375349.20031210104340@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: stomach virus In-Reply-To: <200312101635.hBAGZFx15269@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312101635.hBAGZFx15269@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Omigosh, I never knew this about you, Karen. > A quote in the logbook at our camp: > "Everyone farts, but only a select few talk about it at breakfast" > Welcome to the few, the tough in stomach, the breakfast club. LOL. That was BEFORE breakfast! But these were theoretical farts, anyway. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 10:58:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAGwWBp011984 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:58:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00212952@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGuFx19470 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:56:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAGuDAr037456 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:56:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210115621.00b6c160@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:56:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: stomach virus In-Reply-To: <200312101447.hBAElCN24132@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It's melting today, but until yesterday we had more ice >than snow - we really didn't get belted the way Rashmi >and other coastal wordslers did. >clo We still have A LOT of snow on the ground. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 11:00:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAH03Bp012037 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:00:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74DA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:57:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 579574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:57:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAGvhx19665 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:57:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAGvgAr037773 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:57:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210115708.00b702b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:58:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <763782377.20031210091026@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Assuming that's not a typo, that's exactly the point. There was a >nutritionist on there, whose name I didn't catch, unfortunately, who >said that when she became a nutritionist, she didn't think she'd have >to know about agriculture, but that's where all of her research has >been, because agricultural interests control the food we are able to >buy. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism They grow extra-fattening food? I would have thought it was how the food was prepared that made it fattening. Oils and added sugars and stuff. Please educate me. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 11:09:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAH91Bp012154 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74DFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:06:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 580297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:06:44 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAH6ix21276 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:06:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 16764 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2003 17:06:42 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-22.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2003 17:06:42 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5591343 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:06:42 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-22.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071076002!359313 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Should I worry? Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:06:43 -0500 Message-ID: <005501c3bf3f$fc56d5e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <1326131878.20031210103450@WordWrite.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay >Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:35 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Should I worry? > > >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >> A few quick things, if you don't have, get a free copy of >Zone Alarm. It >> has saved me a great deal. > >I use Kerio--my e-mail program won't work with ZA. I don't know Kerio. So I will not speak on that issue. > >> A worm can sneak by most anti-virus programs. > >Why? (In 25 words or less; I'm just looking for a generality.) > A worm is not a virus. It infects the thru an operating system flaw or some other problem. Blaster is an example. >I keep thinking antibiotics and viruses... > >> Also, I can't stress this enough, do the Microsoft updates >when they issue >> them. Blaster is still around and active. Updated Norton >helps, I assume you >> have it update daily. > >I do do the Microsoft updates, and I have Norton update whenever there >is a new update. (There's no point in running it as often as I do if >you don't. > >Thanks, Alec. I felt like I was doing the right things, which you've >confirmed, and this still happened. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism > alec ------------ plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Alec D. Plotkin ''Good ideas are not adopted automatically. They must be driven into practice with courageous patience.'' - Admiral Hyman Rickover ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 11:12:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAHClBp012207 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:12:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A74E1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:10:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 580590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:10:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAHATx21846 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:10:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAHAQ6X020864 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:10:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:10:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1655038906.20031210111041@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210115708.00b702b8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210115708.00b702b8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > They grow extra-fattening food? In essence. It pays them to grow food that gets subsidized, like the ubiquitous corn, rather than to grow things that don't get subsidized. PJ thinks that healthy food should get subsidized, rather than food that provides no nutritional value. > I would have thought it was how the food was prepared that made it > fattening. Oils and added sugars and stuff. Please educate me. Educate yourself: go to a supermarket and see how many prepared foods you can find without some form of corn in them. Most people eat some sort of prepared food at least several times/week. (It's often cheaper to buy raw food, but much more time consuming. For example, if I had to make potstickers every time I ate them, I would never eat them. When I lived with Karsten, we used to make them quite often, and that was great, but there were two of us. It's not fun for one person.) PJ did a lot of talking about marketing, too, and the role that plays. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 11:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAHEJBp012226 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:14:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002129CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:12:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 580690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:12:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAHC1x22024 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:12:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAHBAKX015471 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:11:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:12:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15710711147.20031210111215@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Should I worry? In-Reply-To: <005501c3bf3f$fc56d5e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: <005501c3bf3f$fc56d5e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > I don't know Kerio. So I will not speak on that issue. It's another free software firewall; not as popular as Zone Alarm. I don't like the interface as well as ZA, but I like my mailer a lot (The Bat!), so I was willing to suffer. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 11:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAHXtBp012478 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:33:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A74EBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 582306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:38 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAHVcx25783 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:38 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAHVaAr042895 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210122913.00b60670@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <3FD7479A.97BB8D6B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <763782377.20031210091026@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did the magic word "Congress" come up at any time? >Its plain I need to watch more teevee - I didn't even know corn was a vegetable. >JMW I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high fructose corn syrup is and that it is grown. I would have thought that most of the corn grown in this country went to feed livestock. What's the reason given for the subsidy? I know Jennings et al think it is given so that Americans can grow obese. But what reason does the government for the subsidy. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 11:37:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAHbUBp012519 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:37:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212A85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 582828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAHZ7x26592 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAHZ16X016983 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1425312572.20031210113516@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210122913.00b60670@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <763782377.20031210091026@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210122913.00b60670@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high fructose corn syrup is and > that it is grown. It's processed from corn. > I would have thought that most of the corn grown in this > country went to feed livestock. You would be wrong. > What's the reason given for the subsidy? I know Jennings et al think > it is given so that Americans can grow obese. But what reason does > the government for the subsidy. Good lobbyists. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:20:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIKMBp013211 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:20:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75049@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 586276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:18:04 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAII4x01817 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:18:04 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPO003NHYTYFA@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:13:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:13:47 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2147e1216688.2166882147e1@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > > I would have thought that most of the corn grown in this > > country went to feed livestock. > > You would be wrong. I think she's correct. And then HFCS. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:22:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIMZBp013235 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:22:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00212C21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:20:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 586533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:20:08 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIK8x02238 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:20:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPO008RLYXUA8@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:15:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:15:50 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <201abc1fff33.1fff33201abc@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Assuming that's not a typo, that's exactly the point. There was a > >nutritionist on there, whose name I didn't catch, unfortunately, who > >said that when she became a nutritionist, she didn't think she'd have > >to know about agriculture, but that's where all of her research has > >been, because agricultural interests control the food we are able to > >buy. > > > >Karen It was Marion Nestle from NYU. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:24:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIOkBp013262 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:24:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75080@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:22:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 586676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:22:28 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIMSx02584 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:22:28 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPO00GVPYZC4U@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:17:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:17:00 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <20805520112e.20112e208055@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev > I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high fructose corn > syrup Do you not read labels? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIPMBp013278 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75084@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 586712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIN4x02681 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAIMBKX023703 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:22:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:23:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1836169590.20031210122318@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <2147e1216688.2166882147e1@optonline.net> References: <2147e1216688.2166882147e1@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Karen Kay >> > I would have thought that most of the corn grown in this >> > country went to feed livestock. >> >> You would be wrong. > I think she's correct. And then HFCS. Hm. I could have sworn PJ said not. But according to http://www.ncga.com/education/main/FAQ.html#primary, the National Corn Growers Association, youse guys are right. "Q. What's the primary use for corn? A. Corn serves as a primary livestock feed source. More than half of the crop puts meat on America's dinner table. A bushel of corn fed to livestock produces 5.6 pounds of retail beef, 13 pounds of retail pork, 19.6 pounds of chicken or 28 pounds of catfish." Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:26:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIQ4Bp013292 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:26:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75088@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 586762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAINkx02784 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAINi6X005158 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:23:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:24:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <396689441.20031210122400@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <201abc1fff33.1fff33201abc@optonline.net> References: <201abc1fff33.1fff33201abc@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> >Assuming that's not a typo, that's exactly the point. There was a >> >nutritionist on there, whose name I didn't catch, unfortunately, who >> >said that when she became a nutritionist, she didn't think she'd have >> >to know about agriculture, but that's where all of her research has >> >been, because agricultural interests control the food we are able to >> >buy. >> > >> >Karen > It was Marion Nestle from NYU. Thank you! She was very good, extremely articulate. I'd like to read something she's written. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIffBp013492 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:41:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A750F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 587889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIdNx05042 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:39:23 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPO002WSZTONU@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:39:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:35:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:35:05 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <21b53f218d06.218d0621b53f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > subsidy? I know Jennings et al think it is given so that > Americans can > grow obese. But what reason does the government for the > subsidy. > bonnie [from the NYT] "The shift from an agricultural-support system designed to discourage overproduction to one that encourages it dates to the early 1970's -- to the last time food prices in America climbed high enough to generate significant political heat. That happened after news of Nixon's 1972 grain deal with the Soviet Union broke, a disclosure that coincided with a spell of bad weather in the farm belt. Commodity prices soared, and before long so did supermarket prices for meat, milk, bread and other staple foods tied to the cost of grain. Angry consumers took to the streets to protest food prices and staged a nationwide meat boycott to protest the high cost of hamburger, that American birthright. Recognizing the political peril, Nixon ordered his secretary of agriculture, Earl (Rusty) Butz, to do whatever was necessary to drive down the price of food. Butz implored America's farmers to plant their fields ''fence row to fence row'' and set about dismantling 40 years of farm policy designed to prevent overproduction. He shuttered the ever-normal granary, dropped the target price for grain and inaugurated a new subsidy system, which eventually replaced nonrecourse loans with direct payments to farmers. The distinction may sound technical, but in effect it was revolutionary. For instead of lending farmers money so they could keep their grain off the market, the government offered to simply cut them a check, freeing them to dump their harvests on the market no matter what the price. The new system achieved exactly what it was intended to: the price of food hasn't been a political problem for the government since the Nixon era. Commodity prices have steadily declined, and in the perverse logic of agricultural economics, production has increased, as farmers struggle to stay solvent. As you can imagine, the shift from supporting agricultural prices to subsidizing much lower prices has been a boon to agribusiness companies because it slashes the cost of their raw materials. That's why Big Food, working with the farm-state Congressional delegations it lavishly supports, consistently lobbies to maintain a farm policy geared to high production and cheap grain. (It doesn't hurt that those lightly populated farm states exert a disproportionate influence in Washington, since it takes far fewer votes to elect a senator in Kansas than in California. That means agribusiness can presumably ''buy'' a senator from one of these underpopulated states for a fraction of what a big-state senator costs.) But as we're beginning to recognize, our cheap-food farm policy comes at a high price: first there's the $19 billion a year the government pays to keep the whole system afloat; then there's the economic misery that the dumping of cheap American grain inflicts on farmers in the developing world; and finally there's the obesity epidemic at home -- which most researchers date to the mid-70's, just when we switched to a farm policy consecrated to the overproduction of grain. Since that time, farmers in the United States have managed to produce 500 additional calories per person every day; each of us is, heroically, managing to pack away about 200 of those extra calories per day. Presumably the other 300 -- most of them in the form of surplus corn -- get dumped on overseas markets or turned into ethanol." http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/magazine/12WWLN.html?pagewanted=1&8hpib From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:43:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIheBp013506 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:43:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A750F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:41:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:41:22 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIfLx05291 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:41:21 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBAIfKkF005103 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:41:20 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBAIfJTR005101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:41:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:41:19 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Message-ID: <20031210184119.GA5052@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <201abc1fff33.1fff33201abc@optonline.net> <396689441.20031210122400@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <396689441.20031210122400@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = > It was Marion Nestle from NYU. = = Thank you! She was very good, extremely articulate. I'd like to read = something she's written. = = Karen, = practicing fierce optimism http://www.foodpolitics.com/ I recognize the _Safe Food_ cover, probably from an ad in Harper's. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:47:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIl1Bp013567 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:47:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7512B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:44:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:44:44 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIihx05908 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:44:43 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAIif6X025240 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:44:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:44:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <38115794.20031210124456@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20031210184119.GA5052@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <201abc1fff33.1fff33201abc@optonline.net> <396689441.20031210122400@WordWrite.com> <20031210184119.GA5052@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, steph wrote: > = = >> It was Marion Nestle from NYU. > = > = Thank you! She was very good, extremely articulate. I'd like to read > = something she's written. > = > = Karen, > = practicing fierce optimism > http://www.foodpolitics.com/ > I recognize the _Safe Food_ cover, probably from an ad in > Harper's. Very cool, thanks! I love this list.:) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:48:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAImKBp013583 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:48:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75118@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:46:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:46:02 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIk2x06162 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:46:02 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPP001OY0484M@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:41:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:41:44 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <21ddab21d91b.21d91b21ddab@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > > It was Marion Nestle from NYU. > > Thank you! She was very good, extremely articulate. I'd like to read > something she's written. Food Politics: How the Food Industry Influences Politics and Health University of California Press; (March 4, 2002) ISBN: 0520224655 I'll have to order a copy for the library, and I think I'll read it too. I've seen her speak and have enjoyed her. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:52:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIqQBp013648 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:52:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75160@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:50:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:50:08 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIo7x06965 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:50:07 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121018500001300bl27ie>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:50:00 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210103311.04f4cfd8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:52:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <875589152.20031210091859@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210080932.00ba76e0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's the online version of the report: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Living/obesity_031208-1.html One of the take-aways: >Americans consume nearly three times more corn in the form of corn >sweeteners than they do in every other form. > >"So what these subsidies do is to lower the cost of the ingredients that >go in processed foods, particularly high-calorie processed foods, and they >make those foods cheaper," said Nestle ADM are also the folks who want to put subsidized corn-based ethanol in our gas tanks. Here's a piece from the anti-ADM-ethanol side: http://www.consumeralert.org/fumento/adm.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 12:53:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAIrCBp013659 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:53:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212CDF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:50:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 588861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:50:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAIorx07179 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:50:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAIoq6X001090 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:50:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:51:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <47476479.20031210125108@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <21ddab21d91b.21d91b21ddab@optonline.net> References: <21ddab21d91b.21d91b21ddab@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Karen Kay >> > It was Marion Nestle from NYU. >> >> Thank you! She was very good, extremely articulate. I'd like to read >> something she's written. > Food Politics: How the Food Industry Influences Politics and Health > University of California Press; (March 4, 2002) > ISBN: 0520224655 > I'll have to order a copy for the library, and I think I'll read it too. I've > seen her speak and have enjoyed her. I put my name on the list at APL. We have 3 copies. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:17:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJHGBp013989 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:17:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75214@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:14:59 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJEwx10895 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:14:58 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAJDc3c026616 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBAJDciJ026183 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:38 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Digestion spoiler. I have discovered in the years following the introduction of Bt corn (the kind of bioengineered corn most often found in human food) that I can't eat corn. Cornstarch seems okay in the amounts I ingest normally, and HFCS and corn oil are also okay. But grits, popcorn, polenta, fresh corn, cornbread, etc. are all out -- they progress with unpleasant speed (an hour or two, given sufficient liquids) through my digestive tract, leaving me dehydrated, sore, tired and shivering. I have bought some organic cornmeal in a bag that claims the corn is not genetically modified. One day soon I will make cornbread with it and see what happens when I eat that. If natural corn has the same effect, I'll probably never eat corn again, since there are so few people with this sensitivity that nobody would bother making corn without the troubling protein. (My research in allergy science journals says that we're not even sure what protein it is, although there are a few candidates and we know the size of their molecules, roughly.) But if only Bt corn affects me, I'm going to be fairly happy. Jodi's allergic to nuts and peanuts, so don't anyone send us Cracker Jack, mmmkay? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJHiBp013994 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:17:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75220@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:15:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 590701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:15:26 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAJFQx10981 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:15:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:15:20 PST Message-ID: <20031210191520.71060.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1ef9031f17e1.1f17e11ef903@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: been good for you to meet some people." > > Sounds innocent enough, but remember, he's the new > one in the neighborhood. I already know people. Sounds as though he feels you need only meet the people he thinks you should meet, as in "I should know what's best for you". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:22:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJM3Bp014054 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:22:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:45 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAJJjx11665 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:45 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:19:34 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBAJM3Bp014054 Kinder Surprise has better toys anyway BrP >>> sylvar@VAXER.NET 12/10/03 02:13PM >>> Jodi's allergic to nuts and peanuts, so don't anyone send us Cracker Jack, mmmkay? Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:23:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJNMBp014067 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:23:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7522D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:21:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:21:04 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJL4x11815 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:21:04 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 83F172B8EE; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738662B8EB for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:21:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:21:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: We're all getting skinnier! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_031014.htm Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJSSBp014118 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:28:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7526A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:26:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:26:10 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJQ7x12678 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:26:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAJQ5Gn036513 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:26:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210142516.00bbd680@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:26:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20805520112e.20112e208055@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high fructose corn > > syrup --bonniev > >Do you not read labels? >Marie No I don't. Nor do I do the grocery shopping. Give me a hint as to what might likely be in Clyde's pantry containing high fructose corn syrup and I'll go look right now. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:30:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJUIBp014153 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:30:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00212E6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:28:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:28:00 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJS0x12997 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:28:00 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.127.3683e643 (18403) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:27:43 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <127.3683e643.2d08cdae@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:27:42 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 1:26:38 PM Central Standard Time, bonniev@GWI.NET writes: << No I don't. Nor do I do the grocery shopping. Give me a hint as to what might likely be in Clyde's pantry containing high fructose corn syrup and I'll go look right now. >> You got soft drinks that are not diet or Kosher? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com A scavenger hunt? How horrible! I don't believe in hunting scavengers. -- Bubbles From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:31:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJVCBp014171 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:31:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75292@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:28:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 591862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:28:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJSrx13149 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:28:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAJSq6X005478 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:28:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:29:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <758942460.20031210132908@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > If natural corn has the same effect, I'll probably never eat corn again, > since there are so few people with this sensitivity that nobody would > bother making corn without the troubling protein. You buy a LOT of food during Passover--I have a friend with this allergy. > But if only Bt corn affects me, I'm going to be fairly happy. Bt corn is getting to be everywhere, in everything, so you may not be happy for long. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:34:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJYKBp014233 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:34:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212E5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:32:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 592061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:32:01 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAJW0x13573 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:32:00 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:32:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:31:46 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: We're all getting skinnier! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBAJYKBp014233 Whenever I hear/read about something like "Eating Patterns in America the food industry bible" it makes want to seed it with some totally off the wall information to see how religiously/blindly it is followed. If, for instance, the indicated a sudden craving for snake wou McRattlerburgers suddenly begin to appear? BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 12/10/03 02:21PM >>> http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_031014.htm Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:37:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJbsBp014262 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:37:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A752C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 592283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:35 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAJZZx14160 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:35 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:29 PST Message-ID: <20031210193529.80658.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210122913.00b60670@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high > fructose corn syrup is and > that it is grown. I would have thought that most of > the corn grown in this > country went to feed livestock. What's the reason > given for the > subsidy? I know Jennings et al think it is given so > that Americans can > grow obese. But what reason does the government > for the subsidy. > > bonnie Ho hum. This sounds suspiciously like "Blame Game" Chapter 36. Americans are fat because the government made them that way. They pay agribusiness to specialize in fattening foods and additives, as opposed to healthy foods. Corn is an insidious vegetable. Fat Americans are lulled into buying these fatty, subsidized food products, by the advertising business. The government, on the QT, encourages companies to hawk their fattening foods in all media forms. Therefore, it is not the fault of the overweight American that he is overweight. It is the fault of the government, the farming industry, the advertising industry, the media, and God for allowing any of this to start up in the first place. I am one of those overweight Americans. I'm glad to know now, who to blame. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:38:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJc4Bp014266 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:38:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212E74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 592303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:46 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJZjx14198 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAJZiAr065810 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:35:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210143459.00bc4cc0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:36:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? In-Reply-To: <20031210191520.71060.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <1ef9031f17e1.1f17e11ef903@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >--- Marie Ascher wrote: > >been good for you to meet some people." > > > > Sounds innocent enough, but remember, he's the new > > one in the neighborhood. I already know people. > > >Sounds as though he feels you need only meet the >people he thinks you should meet, as in "I should know >what's best for you". It certainly sounds evangelical. Run for the hills as soon as someone starts telling you what is "good for you". bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:44:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJitBp014359 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:44:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212EAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:42:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 592894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:42:36 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAJgax15535 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:42:36 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:42:30 PST Message-ID: <20031210194230.82853.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:42:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <21b53f218d06.218d0621b53f@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > [from the NYT] > > "The shift from an agricultural-support system > designed to discourage > overproduction to one that encourages it dates to > the early 1970's -- to the > last time food prices in America climbed high enough > to generate significant > political heat. That happened after news of Nixon's > 1972 grain deal with the > Soviet Union broke, a disclosure that coincided with > a spell of bad weather > in the farm belt. Commodity prices soared, and > before long so did > supermarket prices for meat, milk, bread and other > staple foods tied to the > cost of grain. Angry consumers took to the streets > to protest food prices > and staged a nationwide meat boycott to protest the > high cost of hamburger, > that American birthright. Recognizing the political > peril, Nixon ordered his > secretary of agriculture, Earl (Rusty) Butz, to do > whatever was necessary to > drive down the price of food. > > Butz implored America's farmers to plant their > fields ''fence row to fence > row'' and set about dismantling 40 years of farm > policy designed to prevent > overproduction. He shuttered the ever-normal > granary, dropped the target > price for grain and inaugurated a new subsidy > system, which eventually > replaced nonrecourse loans with direct payments to > farmers. The distinction > may sound technical, but in effect it was > revolutionary. For instead of > lending farmers money so they could keep their grain > off the market, the > government offered to simply cut them a check, > freeing them to dump their > harvests on the market no matter what the price. > > The new system achieved exactly what it was intended > to: the price of food > hasn't been a political problem for the government > since the Nixon era. > Commodity prices have steadily declined, and in the > perverse logic of > agricultural economics, production has increased, as > farmers struggle to > stay solvent. As you can imagine, the shift from > supporting agricultural > prices to subsidizing much lower prices has been a > boon to agribusiness > companies because it slashes the cost of their raw > materials. That's why Big > Food, working with the farm-state Congressional > delegations it lavishly > supports, consistently lobbies to maintain a farm > policy geared to high > production and cheap grain. (It doesn't hurt that > those lightly populated > farm states exert a disproportionate influence in > Washington, since it takes > far fewer votes to elect a senator in Kansas than in > California. That means > agribusiness can presumably ''buy'' a senator from > one of these > underpopulated states for a fraction of what a > big-state senator costs.) > > But as we're beginning to recognize, our cheap-food > farm policy comes at a > high price: first there's the $19 billion a year the > government pays to keep > the whole system afloat; then there's the economic > misery that the dumping > of cheap American grain inflicts on farmers in the > developing world; and > finally there's the obesity epidemic at home -- > which most researchers date > to the mid-70's, just when we switched to a farm > policy consecrated to the > overproduction of grain. Since that time, farmers in > the United States have > managed to produce 500 additional calories per > person every day; each of us > is, heroically, managing to pack away about 200 of > those extra calories per > day. Presumably the other 300 -- most of them in the > form of surplus corn -- > get dumped on overseas markets or turned into > ethanol." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/magazine/12WWLN.html?pagewanted=1&8hpib One of Mr. Butz's first moves was to declare that the high prices of food were to be blamed on the poor shopping habits if the American housewife. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:47:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJlRBp014405 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:47:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00212EEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:45:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 593067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:45:09 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJj9x16028 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:45:09 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPP003DL2UC5C@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:40:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:40:20 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <20db11207e98.207e9820db11@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > No I don't. Nor do I do the grocery shopping. Give me a hint as > to what > might likely be in Clyde's pantry containing high fructose corn > syrup and > I'll go look right now. Well, Clyde probably has only real food in his pantry, so if you don't hang out in the supermarket looking at products... Anyway, most "juices" contain an abundance of HFCS, as well as most sweetended soft drinks, breakfast cereals, breads, pretzels, salad dressings, peanut butter... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJmkBp014422 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:48:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7531F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:46:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 593204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:46:28 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBAJkOx16269 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:46:24 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:46:23 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:46:12 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Prayer? Exhortation? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBAJmkBp014422 Are you saying that running for the hills is good for me? BrP >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 12/10/03 02:36PM >>> >--- Marie Ascher wrote: > >been good for you to meet some people." > > > > Sounds innocent enough, but remember, he's the new > > one in the neighborhood. I already know people. > > >Sounds as though he feels you need only meet the >people he thinks you should meet, as in "I should know >what's best for you". It certainly sounds evangelical. Run for the hills as soon as someone starts telling you what is "good for you". bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:51:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJpGBp014440 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:51:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7533E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 593356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:48:58 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJmwx16630 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:48:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:48:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312101948.hBAJmwx16630@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:48:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:58:05 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Assuming that's not a typo, that's exactly the point. There was a >>nutritionist on there, whose name I didn't catch, unfortunately, who >>said that when she became a nutritionist, she didn't think she'd have >>to know about agriculture, but that's where all of her research has >>been, because agricultural interests control the food we are able to >>buy. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > >They grow extra-fattening food? I would have thought it was how the food >was prepared that made it fattening. Oils and added sugars and >stuff. Please educate me. > > >bonnie Oil and added sugars fill food out and make it higher in calories and lower in nutrients, but they are added to the prepared foods partly as filler because they are cheaper than natural ingredients. They are cheaper because corn oil and corn syrup come from corn, while other potentially healthier ingredients receive no subsidy. Thus, the subsidy for corn increases the likelihood that cheap easily accessible foods which are brightly packaged and heavily marketed - hence eaten in large quantities by unsuspecting customers - will be high in calories and sugars which shorten the lifespan and decrease the health of consumers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:55:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJtABp014477 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:55:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:52:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 593668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:52:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJqix17287 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:52:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212F06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:52:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200312101952.hBAJqix17287@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:52:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:59 -0500, bonniev wrote: > > Did the magic word "Congress" come up at any time? > >Its plain I need to watch more teevee - I didn't even know corn was a >vegetable. > >JMW > >I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high fructose corn syrup is and >that it is grown. I would have thought that most of the corn grown in this >country went to feed livestock. What's the reason given for the >subsidy? This is one of the silliest statements I have read on this : > I know Jennings et al think it is given so that Americans can >grow obese. Jennings et al think it is given because corporations like ADM lobby for it, arguing that it supports American farmers (the "little guy"), and that they lobby for it because they stand to make huge profits from it. >But what reason does the government for the subsidy. >Bonnie I suggest you check the Congressional Record for this information. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 13:58:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAJwuBp014541 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:58:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7536E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 593882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJucx17683 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00212F53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:56:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312101956.hBAJucx17683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:56:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:16 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high fructose corn syrup is and >> that it is grown. > >It's processed from corn. > >> I would have thought that most of the corn grown in this >> country went to feed livestock. >>Bonnie >You would be wrong. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism That's not necessarily true (not that I care enough to google for the stats). It's possible that enough goes to feeding livestock to count as "most"; but a very large share is also grown for processing for thickeners (cornstarch), sweeteners (corn syrup) and oils (corn oil). Here's a thought/dim memory - I bet the original argument for the subsidy was that corn and beet sugar grown "at home" was better for American than imported Cuban cane sugar, back in the Cold War. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:00:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAK0oBp014596 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:00:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:58:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 593959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:58:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJwWx17993 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:58:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAJwV6X004303 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:58:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:58:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <822768257.20031210135847@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312101952.hBAJqix17287@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312101952.hBAJqix17287@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Jennings et al think it is given because corporations like ADM lobby for > it, arguing that it supports American farmers (the "little guy"), and that > they lobby for it because they stand to make huge profits from it. Where is Doris? I wonder if she knows anyone who makes money from the corn subsidy. I'm thinking that 'the little guy' is not really supported by this subsidy. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:01:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAK1mBp014605 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00212F6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 594053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAJxTx18165 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAJwaKX024934 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:58:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:59:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <578055848.20031210135944@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312101956.hBAJucx17683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312101956.hBAJucx17683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Here's a thought/dim memory - I bet the original argument for the subsidy > was that corn and beet sugar grown "at home" was better for American than > imported Cuban cane sugar, back in the Cold War. I was thinking this when I was watching the tape of the show, but I don't remember them saying that. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:05:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAK5eBp014659 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:05:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7538D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 594319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAK3Mx18814 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00212F60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102003.hBAK3Mx18814@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:22 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:13:38 -0800, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >Digestion spoiler. > >I have discovered in the years following the introduction of Bt corn (the >kind of bioengineered corn most often found in human food) that I can't >eat corn. Cornstarch seems okay in the amounts I ingest normally, and >HFCS and corn oil are also okay. But grits, popcorn, polenta, fresh corn, >cornbread, etc. are all out -- they progress with unpleasant speed (an >hour or two, given sufficient liquids) through my digestive tract, leaving >me dehydrated, sore, tired and shivering. > >I have bought some organic cornmeal in a bag that claims the corn is not >genetically modified. One day soon I will make cornbread with it and see >what happens when I eat that. > >If natural corn has the same effect, I'll probably never eat corn again, >since there are so few people with this sensitivity that nobody would >bother making corn without the troubling protein. (My research in allergy >science journals says that we're not even sure what protein it is, >although there are a few candidates and we know the size of their >molecules, roughly.) > >But if only Bt corn affects me, I'm going to be fairly happy. > >Jodi's allergic to nuts and peanuts, so don't anyone send us Cracker Jack, >mmmkay? > >Ben I have read for years - predating Bt corn, and probably including stuff written in the 50's and maybe even the 30's - that many people are "addicted" to corn products in an "allergic" reaction that leaves them craving it even though they are unable to digest it. I have known a lot of older people who knew they were not good with corn products (eg my grandaddy); but I don't know how a person can tell they have a mild reaction to corn now with it in so many products - it's like being allergic to water, almost - you could easily be sick and not know why. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:05:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAK5oBp014665 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:05:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7537B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 594327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:32 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAK3Vx18863 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:03:32 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBAK3PTs3244070 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:03:25 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:03:24 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312101956.hBAJucx17683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312101956.hBAJucx17683@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: > Here's a thought/dim memory - I bet the original argument for the subsidy > was that corn and beet sugar grown "at home" was better for American than > imported Cuban cane sugar, back in the Cold War. But sugar's been subsidized for a lot longer than that, hasn't it? -- Richard, way down south in the land of cane From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:12:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKCPBp014761 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:12:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A753D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 594922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:10:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKA7x20428 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:10:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00212FE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:10:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102010.hBAKA7x20428@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:10:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:35:29 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- bonniev wrote: >> I'm even worse off. I don't even know what high >> fructose corn syrup is and >> that it is grown. I would have thought that most of >> the corn grown in this >> country went to feed livestock. What's the reason >> given for the >> subsidy? I know Jennings et al think it is given so >> that Americans can >> grow obese. But what reason does the government >> for the subsidy. >> >> bonnie > >Ho hum. This sounds suspiciously like "Blame Game" >Chapter 36. Americans are fat because the government >made them that way. They pay agribusiness to >specialize in fattening foods and additives, as >opposed to healthy foods. Corn is an insidious >vegetable. > >Fat Americans are lulled into buying these fatty, >subsidized food products, by the advertising business. > The government, on the QT, encourages companies to >hawk their fattening foods in all media forms. > >Therefore, it is not the fault of the overweight >American that he is overweight. It is the fault of >the government, the farming industry, the advertising >industry, the media, and God for allowing any of this >to start up in the first place. > >I am one of those overweight Americans. I'm glad to >know now, who to blame. > > Well, if you have a spare tire around the middle, that may not be as funny as you think. The additional sugar in modern foods wears out the pancreas with insulin overproduction, leading to earlier and more common hyperinulinemia - the body is tired of being awash in insulin, and stops using it properly (like when you need more and more heroin to satisfy the craving). This is the preliminary stage that precedes Adult Onset (Type II) Diabetes for many people. If counting calories isn't as helpful as counting carbs in keeping your weight stable, and if you find that a strict protein-and- (nonstarchy)veggies diet for 3 or 4 days lessens cravings, you're probably insulin resistant. Thank you, ADM! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:18:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKIdBp014889 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:18:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A753F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:16:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 595354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:16:20 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKGKx21332 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:16:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A753FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:16:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102016.hBAKGKx21332@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:16:20 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:03:24 -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: >clo: >> Here's a thought/dim memory - I bet the original argument for the subsidy >> was that corn and beet sugar grown "at home" was better for American than >> imported Cuban cane sugar, back in the Cold War. > >But sugar's been subsidized for a lot longer >than that, hasn't it? > >-- >Richard, way down south in the land of cane I'm not sure. The bigger subsidies in the 20's - 30's were for tobacco and cotton. Cane might have been subsidized as well. I have heard the history of subsidies, which had a close impact on my family, but I haven't retained enough to spit it back easily. I'll research if nobody else posts it first. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:23:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKNwBp014980 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:23:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00212FEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:11:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 595036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:11:39 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKBdx20730 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:11:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A753D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:11:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102011.hBAKBdx20730@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:11:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:58:47 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Jennings et al think it is given because corporations like ADM lobby for >> it, arguing that it supports American farmers (the "little guy"), and that >> they lobby for it because they stand to make huge profits from it. > >Where is Doris? I wonder if she knows anyone who makes money from the >corn subsidy. I'm thinking that 'the little guy' is not really >supported by this subsidy. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Well, not so much as bigger growers, anyway! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:45:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKjBBp015272 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:45:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7555B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:42:52 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKgqx25801 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:42:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAKgoAr077287 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:42:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154114.00bc5888@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:43:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <127.3683e643.2d08cdae@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >No I don't. Nor do I do the grocery shopping. Give me a hint as to what > >might likely be in Clyde's pantry containing high fructose corn syrup and > >I'll go look right now. > > >You got soft drinks that are not diet or Kosher? >Evelyn Duncan No. No soft drinks in the house. But I did find it in my Bran Buds cereal. The Total cereal just says "corn syrup". But the Bran Buds is high fructose. I feel more with it now. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:51:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKp1Bp015350 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:51:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A755A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:48:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 598930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:48:42 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKmfx27016 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:48:41 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBAKmekF005480 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:40 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBAKmdo3005478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:39 +0100 From: steph To: words-l Subject: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031210204839.GA5472@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A WLM: http://tinyurl.com/ynjz From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:55:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKtDBp015398 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:55:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002131CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 599548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:54 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKqrx27977 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:53 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAKqlGt049076; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:46:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20db11207e98.207e9820db11@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:40 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >Well, Clyde probably has only real food in his pantry, so if you don't >hang out in the supermarket looking at products... >Anyway, most "juices" contain an abundance of HFCS, as well as >most sweetended soft drinks, breakfast cereals, breads, pretzels, salad >dressings, peanut butter... Relative to perhaps many, we don't have that many things that contain HFCS. I don't stock salad dressings and I make our bread. Other than root beer brewed here on the island, we very seldom have soft drinks in the house. I make my own pasta sauces. Basically, we don't depend that much on "prepared" foods---at least that's what I conclude from seeing the shopping carts of others in the supermarket. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:55:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKtGBp015401 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:55:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021319C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 599559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKqvx27988 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:57 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAKqtGn049105 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:52:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:53:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20db11207e98.207e9820db11@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Anyway, most "juices" contain an abundance of HFCS, as well as >most sweetended soft drinks, breakfast cereals, breads, pretzels, salad >dressings, peanut butter... >Marie I've gone looking. My fruit juice is the diet kind, sweetened with Splenda. (I buy diet because that is the kind fortified with calcium.) I did find the high fructose in one of my two breakfast cereals. The only soft drink I regularly have is a microbrewery root beer whose label says "pure cane sugar." Clyde makes his own bread and salad dressing. There are no pretzels in the house at this time. Jiff Creamy peanut butter appears to be sweetened with just plain sugar. But thanks for the interesting discussion. The long quote seems to indicate that subsidies were a way to make food cheap and cheap food has made Americans fat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 14:59:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAKxQBp015461 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7564A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:57:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 600222 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:57:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKv7x29440 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:57:07 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAKv66X003946 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:57:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:57:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1533092244.20031210145722@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > But thanks for the interesting discussion. The long quote seems to > indicate that subsidies were a way to make food cheap and cheap food has > made Americans fat. You missed the point. It's the TYPE of cheap food that has made Americans fat. If cucumbers were as ubiquitous as corn, Americans would not be as fat as they are. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:01:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAL13Bp015514 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:01:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A756B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKw9x29729 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAKvGKX025408 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:57:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:58:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1510655809.20031210145824@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Relative to perhaps many, we don't have that many things that contain > HFCS. Yep. You have the time and the know-how to make real food. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAL15Bp015517 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:01:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002132BA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 601056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:45 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAKwjx29854 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A756D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:58:26 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:39 +0100, steph wrote: >A WLM: > >http://tinyurl.com/ynjz After I got in trouble for knitting in the office after hours one day (not as a habit, mind you - I knitted at bus stops, and happened to have it with me and be showing a cow-orker), my daughter had a series of conversations with a group of women (my mother was the youngest at abt 70) who had learned to knit during the wars, and began to research the subject. As part of her research, she began to knit in while waiting for things to happen, including during classes. She had the teachers' permissions to knit during class; but she was widely harassed for inappropriate, "rude" behavior by certain students. I have also been told it's rude to knit during meetings of informal groups of women (eg PTA, parent's circle), and also have been told by some that, while sitting watching tv together is social and acceptable, knitting while sitting watching tv is antisocial and deliberately rude. Apart from observing attitudes toward handiwork shifting from approving to disapproving, it's interesting to note that my daughter, who's pretty distractible, found that knitting improved her concentration in classes. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:11:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALBZBp015619 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:11:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75753@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 602261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:16 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAL9Fx00864 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBAL9CkF005536 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:09:12 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBAL9BRw005534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:09:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:09:11 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031210210911.GA5528@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = for inappropriate, "rude" behavior by certain students. I have also been = told it's rude to knit during meetings of informal groups of women (eg = PTA, parent's circle), and also have been told by some that, while sitting = watching tv together is social and acceptable, knitting while sitting = watching tv is antisocial and deliberately rude. = I find that I can focus better on conf. calls (and keep my mouth shut and my temper under control) if I play the snake game on my mobile phone instead of doodling or taking notes. No one's told me not to, but I think people definitely think it's not polite. Basically you appear to be paying attention to something else. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:12:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALCqBp015628 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:12:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021332A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 602279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:47 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAL9lx00975 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:47 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16b.2789eacd (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:38 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16b.2789eacd.2d08e592@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:09:38 EST Subject: Re: A Smashing Success To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 8:51:55 AM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >>The ARF banquet went fine. And various people complimented me on the >>invocation afterwards -- sincere compliments, not the typical "nice >>invocation" or "your invocation was good." I called it a meditation, >>saying at the beginning, "For the invocation I want to read a short, >>anonymous meditation that seems fitting for the season." I added "May >>we" at the beginning and changed "thy" to "our" in "guarded in our speech." >> Wonderful. Feels good to be appreciated, doesn't it? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:13:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALDoBp015637 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:13:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75763@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 602363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALBVx01298 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBALBTAr082370 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:11:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210160747.00bcfdb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:11:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <1533092244.20031210145722@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > But thanks for the interesting discussion. The long quote seems to > > indicate that subsidies were a way to make food cheap and cheap food has > > made Americans fat. > >You missed the point. It's the TYPE of cheap food that has made >Americans fat. If cucumbers were as ubiquitous as corn, Americans >would not be as fat as they are. >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Perhaps. But the quote from the NYTimes that Marie gave us did not, in my reading, address that point. I asked why subsidies and Marie answered with that quote which explained how agricultural subsidies became widespread in the '70s. It did not, in my reading, make a distinction between what was and wasn't subsidized. In my mind, you and Jennings still have to prove that subsidies are given preferentially to things that make Americans fat. Perhaps corn is simply easier to grow and harvest in America than cucumbers are. And that's why farmers plant it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:17:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALHaBp015723 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:17:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75798@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 602870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:10 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALF9x02264 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:09 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBALF6Gp052898; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:13:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <1510655809.20031210145824@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:58 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > Relative to perhaps many, we don't have that many things that contain > > HFCS. > >Yep. You have the time and the know-how to make real food. I've always had the time. One of the biggest crocks is that cooking well demands a lot of time. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALI3Bp015727 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:18:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7579C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 602916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:44 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBALFhx02363 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:43 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:21 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBALI3Bp015727 I find it silly that anyone would view knitting in public as rude behavior, though I don't doubt they do. I am currently working on the papers of a woman who was a long time activist in Syracuse. She used to knit at meetings all the time. I remember thinking "lillian isn't paying attention" but then she would look up from what she was doing and make some comment that was so totally to the point (npi) that it was obvious she was more attentive than half the people there. I have found, for myself, that doodling serves this purpose. I view it as keeping the right half of my brain busy so the left brain can pay attention to the information being discussed. Brp >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/10/03 03:58PM >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:39 +0100, steph wrote: >A WLM: > >http://tinyurl.com/ynjz After I got in trouble for knitting in the office after hours one day (not as a habit, mind you - I knitted at bus stops, and happened to have it with me and be showing a cow-orker), my daughter had a series of conversations with a group of women (my mother was the youngest at abt 70) who had learned to knit during the wars, and began to research the subject. As part of her research, she began to knit in while waiting for things to happen, including during classes. She had the teachers' permissions to knit during class; but she was widely harassed for inappropriate, "rude" behavior by certain students. I have also been told it's rude to knit during meetings of informal groups of women (eg PTA, parent's circle), and also have been told by some that, while sitting watching tv together is social and acceptable, knitting while sitting watching tv is antisocial and deliberately rude. Apart from observing attitudes toward handiwork shifting from approving to disapproving, it's interesting to note that my daughter, who's pretty distractible, found that knitting improved her concentration in classes. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:24:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALOhBp015814 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:24:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A757B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALMOx03328 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBALMLrm017243 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:22:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:22:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1837536544.20031210152237@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > She had the teachers' permissions to knit during class; but she was > widely harassed for inappropriate, "rude" behavior by certain > students. I remember knitting and crocheting in class when I was in gradeschool. > I have also been told it's rude to knit during meetings of > informal groups of women (eg PTA, parent's circle), Did you ask why? > and also have been told by some that, while sitting watching tv > together is social and acceptable, knitting while sitting watching > tv is antisocial and deliberately rude. LOL. I've been going over to Nameless' to watch movies or sumo, and he didn't say anything the first time I pulled out my knitting, but I guess he might have been thinking that. Here's a knitting question for you: When you're knitting socks Continental and it's time to move onto the next needle, how do you change needles with the yarn wrapped around your hand? When I knit English, there's nothing in my left hand, so I pull it out and reposition it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALZ6Bp015984 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A757C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:46 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALMkx03388 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:46 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.185.23d5bc2d (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <185.23d5bc2d.2d08e89a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:34 EST Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 9:10:35 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >she didn't think she'd have to know about agriculture, but that's where all of her research has been, because agricultural interests control the food we are able to buy. -------- So it's not OUR fault we're overweight, but because of the dumb agricultural department? I like Peter Jenning in general, but didn't see this latest one. Hopefully I didn't miss anything useful. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALZ6Bp015985 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A757E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:24:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:24:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALOcx03654 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:24:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBALObrm019215 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:24:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:24:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6010586242.20031210152453@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210160747.00bcfdb8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210160747.00bcfdb8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, bonniev wrote: > In my mind, you and Jennings still have to prove that subsidies are > given preferentially to things that make Americans fat. Nah--I don't have to prove anything to you. > Perhaps corn is simply easier to grow and harvest in America than > cucumbers are. And that's why farmers plant it. Uh-huh. And perhaps those pink tomatoes really DO taste better... Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALZ6Bp015988 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75807@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:31:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:31:18 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALVIx04520 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:31:18 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3e.38d89b2e (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:31:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.38d89b2e.2d08ea9c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:31:08 EST Subject: Re: Should I worry? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:06:32 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >But what puzzles me is that AFAIK there was no widespread alert about >a worm disabling computers. How did it sneak past Norton to attack it, >and why was I the only one? > I was having a lot of problems with my MAC too. Had to reinstall my system as well. Everything seems to doing ok again. Keeping my fingers crossed. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALZ6Bp015986 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A757E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALQCx03898 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBALPHKX023231 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:25:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:26:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <278019304.20031210152625@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > I've always had the time. One of the biggest crocks is that cooking well > demands a lot of time. You don't have to feed 10 people every night, either. The cooking doesn't always take time, but the planning, buying, and preparing require time that people don't always have. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALZ6Bp015987 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A757D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 603660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:37 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBALQax03946 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:36 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:36 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:26:07 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: proud Papa moment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBALZ6Bp015987 I don't know if I mentioned here that my son will be working as a Wilderness education Counselor for Eckerd Youth Alternatives http://www.eckerd.org/index2.htm he just got his assignment and it will be to their camp in Boomer, North Carolina. They're flying him down this weekend for an orientation session and around the first of the year he will report for three weeks of training. It does my heart good to see him find what seems to be the perfect job for his skills and interests. :-) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:48:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALmmBp016199 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:48:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7588D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 605102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:29 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALkTV07126 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:29 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.136.28379a77 (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:17 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <136.28379a77.2d08ee29@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:17 EST Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 11:35:21 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >> What's the reason given for the subsidy? I know Jennings et al think >> it is given so that Americans can grow obese. ----------- Ah...... Now I know why I can't gain weight. I eat too healthy! :{ Is there a special government department I can complain to? Just curious Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:53:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBALrqBp016286 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:53:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A758B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:51:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 605509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:51:33 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBALpVV08026 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:51:32 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPP007K88O5QS@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:11 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <21b3f221df52.21df5221b3f2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Paul Barfoot > I find it silly that anyone would view knitting in public as rude > behavior, though I don't doubt they do. I find it odd when people knit during meetings. I guess because I'm an incessant note-taker and I can't see how one can knit and take notes at the same time. I also think it seems as if your attention is divided, although I know that people who knit say they can knit and dedicate their attention to a speaker at the same time. I know I can't, I'm surely at least a little ADD. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:16:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMGTBp016645 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:16:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A759CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:14:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:14:10 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAME5V11821 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:14:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210221359.SVDV1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD79AA9.5040304@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:14:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Smashing Success References: <200312101451.hBAEplN25411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312101451.hBAEplN25411@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > YaY! I'm glad all your work paid off. Couldn't have done it without Wordslers to suggest things like "may we" before "be." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:18:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMISBp016678 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:18:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A759EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMG8V12101 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBAMFFKX015545 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:15:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:16:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <513890062.20031210161624@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <21b3f221df52.21df5221b3f2@optonline.net> References: <21b3f221df52.21df5221b3f2@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > I find it odd when people knit during meetings. I guess because I'm > an incessant note-taker and I can't see how one can knit and take > notes at the same time. I also think it seems as if your attention is > divided, although I know that people who knit say they can knit and > dedicate their attention to a speaker at the same time. I know I can't, > I'm surely at least a little ADD. Taking notes can be distracting; that's why we designate notetakers for meetings. I don't see knitting as any more distracting than that. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:19:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMJ9Bp016683 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:19:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A759DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:50 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMGnV12173 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210221644.SWPT1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD79B48.1060001@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:16:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie - References: <3FD720C5.4060102@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>>"I rather suspect that the vastly overwhelming majority of Americans have >>>never been overseas (maybe we shouldn't count people who went with the >>>military or Peace Corps), and perhaps the majority have never been out of >>>their own state. Partly it's that travel is pretty cussedly expensive >>>everywhere, but partly that they don't have any particular desire to." >> >>And your point is what exactly? > > Self-evident, I think. That somebody on another list said that he/she rather suspected the above? Yes, I guess that's self-evident. I just couldn't quite see why you posted it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMLpBp016730 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:21:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75A07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:19:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:19:32 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMJWV12584 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:19:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAMJUGn062350 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:19:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210171909.0805f560@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:19:55 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Survivor Alert for Natalie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please note well: The final show of Survivor is going to be this Sunday at 7 p.m. Make a note. I will remind you again. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:24:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMO0Bp016745 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:24:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75A00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 608703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMLeV12774 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPP000LNA3ZR8@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:17:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:17:22 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <221dc8223859.223859221dc8@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks from me too. I probably would have heard it on Thursday, but I'm happy to have the heads up so I can plan accordingly. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: bonniev Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 5:19 pm Subject: Survivor Alert for Natalie > Please note well: The final show of Survivor is going to be this > Sunday at > 7 p.m. Make a note. I will remind you again. > > > > bonnie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMX1Bp016974 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:33:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002135EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:30:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:30:41 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMUfV13825 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:30:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210223036.DYNK1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:30:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD79E8D.9060101@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:30:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <200312101952.hBAJqix17287@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <822768257.20031210135847@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <822768257.20031210135847@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Where is Doris? In Phoenix? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:38:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMcSBp017063 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:38:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75A59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:08 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMa8V14427 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75A6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:36:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:22:37 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> She had the teachers' permissions to knit during class; but she was >> widely harassed for inappropriate, "rude" behavior by certain >> students. > >I remember knitting and crocheting in class when I was in gradeschool. > >> I have also been told it's rude to knit during meetings of >> informal groups of women (eg PTA, parent's circle), > >Did you ask why? > >> and also have been told by some that, while sitting watching tv >> together is social and acceptable, knitting while sitting watching >> tv is antisocial and deliberately rude. > >LOL. I've been going over to Nameless' to watch movies or sumo, and he >didn't say anything the first time I pulled out my knitting, but I >guess he might have been thinking that. > >Here's a knitting question for you: When you're knitting socks >Continental and it's time to move onto the next needle, how do you >change needles with the yarn wrapped around your hand? When I knit >English, there's nothing in my left hand, so I pull it out and >reposition it. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism I drop the full needle, take the empty needle from my hand with my now empty hand, and pick up the full needle with my wrapped hand. I use double pointed needles or circular needles whenever I can, not just socks; but on occasion I have lost a dp needle and had to continue with a pair of dps and a pair of straights. In that instance, I do have to transfer stitches at intervals. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMgOBp017178 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:42:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021362B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMe4V14894 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021365E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102240.hBAMe4V14894@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:22:34 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 12/10/2003 9:10:35 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > >>she didn't think she'd have to know about agriculture, but that's where all >of her research has been, because agricultural interests control the food we >are able to buy. >-------- >So it's not OUR fault we're overweight, but because of the dumb agricultural >department? I like Peter Jenning in general, but didn't see this latest one. >Hopefully I didn't miss anything useful. Theo Thank you, Theo, for drawing my attention to this important point: It's true that many people have more weight with modern diet than they might otherwise, and also true that there are many interrelated factors behind the phenomenon, one of which is choices we make when hungry, hurried, inattentive, ignorant of consequences, or hoping to avoid same. But why have we all been phrasing this as "fault"? It doesn't matter what the motives were behind various developments or who should have done what. What matters is that this is yet another important reason to make changes in how we personally live, shop, etc, if we wish for different consequences. All the responsibility for making things better is in the present and the future. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:42:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMgcBp017182 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:42:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021365C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 609789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMeJV14926 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210224013.ECVH1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7A0CE.2090305@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:40:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210171909.0805f560@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210171909.0805f560@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Please note well: The final show of Survivor is going to be this Sunday at > 7 p.m. Make a note. I will remind you again. THANK YOU!! I'm excited. Wish tonight were Thursday. I'm in the mood to settle in front of the electree teevee with a bag of popcorn. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:47:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMl5Bp017282 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:47:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75AA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:44:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:44:36 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMiZV15507 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:44:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBAMhvbM020943 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:43:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:43:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Apart from observing attitudes toward handiwork shifting from approving to > disapproving, it's interesting to note that my daughter, who's pretty > distractible, found that knitting improved her concentration in classes. I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to students who are very distractable -- doing something with their hands keeps them focused. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:47:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMlJBp017287 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:47:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75AA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:44:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:45:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMj0V15536 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:45:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213646@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:44:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102245.hBAMj0V15536@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:44:59 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:46:11 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >From: Paul Barfoot >> I find it silly that anyone would view knitting in public as rude >> behavior, though I don't doubt they do. > >I find it odd when people knit during meetings. I guess because I'm >an incessant note-taker and I can't see how one can knit and take >notes at the same time. I also think it seems as if your attention is >divided, although I know that people who knit say they can knit and >dedicate their attention to a speaker at the same time. I know I can't, >I'm surely at least a little ADD. > >Marie ADD probably doesn't have as much to do with whether or not knitting helps, as the habit or preference for remembering that which you write better than that which you hear. In her case, notetaking isn't helpful; she has a neurological lapse whenever she tries to write and pay attention at the same time, so knitting, which is a learned schema with little attention, helps. Of course, a beginning knitter frowning over each stitch will derive less benefit than a practiced one.... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:50:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMoRBp017346 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00213688@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:48:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:48:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMm7V15998 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:48:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213683@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:48:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102248.hBAMm7V15998@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:48:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:43:09 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> Apart from observing attitudes toward handiwork shifting from approving to >> disapproving, it's interesting to note that my daughter, who's pretty >> distractible, found that knitting improved her concentration in classes. > > > I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to >students who are very distractable -- doing something with >their hands keeps them focused. > What a good teacher - I sure wish my kids had had you! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 16:55:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAMtABp017417 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:55:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021369B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:50 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMqoV16509 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBAMqlAt098588; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <278019304.20031210152625@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:26 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > I've always had the time. One of the biggest crocks is that cooking well > > demands a lot of time. > >You don't have to feed 10 people every night, either. Nor do a helluva lot of other people who complain about not having enough time to cook. >The cooking doesn't always take time, but the planning, buying, and >preparing require time that people don't always have. That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. And I don't know where you learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), buying (i.e., shopping), and preparation are all part of cooking well. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:00:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN0UBp017548 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:00:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75AC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:58:10 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMwAV16962 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:58:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210225805.VEIP1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:58:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7A4FB.2080008@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > This is more what you should be looking for: > > http://tinyurl.com/ycxb Back to this matter. Have any of you dealt with drugstore.com? Are they reputable? I think I'm going to order the purple thingy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:01:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN1pBp017555 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:01:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75ADC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:32 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMxWV17087 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:32 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPP006ZDBV6QA@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:55:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:55:14 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin bath To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <220b4f21e98a.21e98a220b4f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Back to this matter. Have any of you dealt with drugstore.com? Are > they reputable? I think I'm going to order the purple thingy. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have dealt with them and only have had positive, fast experiences. They have many things I can't get at my local CVS. And Tazo teas. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:02:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN2GBp017560 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:02:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75ACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 610782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAMxuV17125 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:59:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBAMxHbM012127 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> The cooking doesn't always take time, but the planning, buying, and >> preparing require time that people don't always have. > > > That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. And I don't know where you > learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), buying (i.e., shopping), and > preparation are all part of cooking well. OK, here's Crock #3. Some of us simply don't give a shit. No, really. It's nice to eat well (and you're a fantastic cook), but thinking about food is really, really boring for me. You would probably find poring over cavaletti designs a big yawn, well that's a crock! You'd have much better abdominals if you actually *did* some cavaletti exercises now and then, buster! Not to mention a firmer ass. No excuses now! Iow, when people say they have no time, they mean they don't have enough interest to devote what time they have to the task. Bonnie's the one in the cat's seat here. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:03:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN3SBp017582 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:03:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75AFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:01:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:01:08 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAN18V17388 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:01:08 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBAN0UbM013684 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:00:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD7A55E.7010408@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:59:42 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> <3FD7A4FB.2080008@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > >> This is more what you should be looking for: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ycxb > > > Back to this matter. Have any of you dealt with drugstore.com? Are > they reputable? I think I'm going to order the purple thingy. Those things, like, SO go on sale marked down to nothing right after Christmas. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:07:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN7ZBp017631 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:07:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75B28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:05:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:05:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAN5FV17733 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:05:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210230505.VHRG1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:05:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7A6A2.9050206@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:05:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <220b4f21e98a.21e98a220b4f@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <220b4f21e98a.21e98a220b4f@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I have dealt with them and only have had positive, fast experiences. They have many things I can't get at my local CVS. And Tazo teas. Thanks! I will proceed. Now I'm wondering, though, if I should consider this one instead: http://tinyurl.com/yoc4 My feet and elbows aren't a big problem, though. I find that hand lotion keeps my heels reasonably happy, and I've never noticed my elbows. So maybe I should just stick with the first one -- the one Karen sent the url for. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:08:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN8eBp017667 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:08:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75B2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:06:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:06:20 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAN6KV17809 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:06:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75B32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:06:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102306.hBAN6KV17809@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:06:20 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:52:30 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 03:26 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> > I've always had the time. One of the biggest crocks is that cooking well >> > demands a lot of time. >> >>You don't have to feed 10 people every night, either. > >Nor do a helluva lot of other people who complain about not having enough >time to cook. > >>The cooking doesn't always take time, but the planning, buying, and >>preparing require time that people don't always have. > >That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. And I don't know where you >learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), buying (i.e., shopping), and >preparation are all part of cooking well. > > >cwv 1) experience. 2) knowledge of ingredients 3) organizational skills 4) income 5) time to plan 6) time to prepare 7) time to clean up 8) resources (eg access to the tools). If you have 1-3, it's relatively easy to make the time to cook. If you don't, you must make messes, go out again for forgotten ingredients, throw things away because they're inedible or spoiled without being used, try to throw things together at the last minute because you to shop or got the wrong things, on and on. What a surprise if they choose the "expert in a box" over yet another probably disaster! You are blessed. Live with it, and don't be judgmental about those with lesser gifts! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:09:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBAN9MBp017681 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:09:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75B1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:07:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:07:02 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAN72V18029 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:07:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:07:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312102307.hBAN72V18029@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:07:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin bath To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:03 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >> This is more what you should be looking for: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ycxb > >Back to this matter. Have any of you dealt with drugstore.com? Are >they reputable? I think I'm going to order the purple thingy. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I purchased items from them early on, and was satisfied. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:12:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBANC3Bp017760 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:12:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:09:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 611640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:09:43 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBAN9eV18384 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:09:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031210230935.VJUM1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:09:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7A7B0.2070300@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:09:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> <3FD7A4FB.2080008@maynor.net> <3FD7A55E.7010408@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FD7A55E.7010408@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Those things, like, SO go on sale marked down to nothing > right after Christmas. At drugstore.com? Maybe I should wait. Hmm. Does Wmart sell things like this? I've never looked. Maybe I could buy it ftf instead of ordering. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:22:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBANM8Bp017932 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:22:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75B70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 612301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:48 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBANJmV19585 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:48 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.7e.42f8920c (26116) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:36 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.42f8920c.2d090407@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Paraffin bath To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 5:10:19 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << At drugstore.com? Maybe I should wait. Hmm. Does Wmart sell things like this? I've never looked. Maybe I could buy it ftf instead of ordering. >> I know Sears does; I guess WM would, too. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:22:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBANMLBp017936 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:22:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00213762@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:20:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 612334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:20:01 -0500 Received: from Apios (H251.C220.tor.velocet.net [216.138.220.251]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBANK0V19646 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:20:00 -0500 Received: from Spooler by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) ID MO0023FA; 10 Dec 03 18:29:58 -0500 Received: from spooler by apios.com (Mercury/32 v3.32); 10 Dec 03 18:29:47 -0500 Received: from test2kserver (216.18.57.162) by Apios (Mercury/32 v3.32) with ESMTP ID MG0023F8; 10 Dec 03 18:29:39 -0500 From: "Tony Harminc" To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:15:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Message-ID: <3FD762DA.21566.4DD4F3C9@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> References: <20031210131313.52202.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 10 Dec 2003 at 8:19, bonniev wrote: > And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural conglomerate effect obesity in > America? Bonnie! I'm betting you meant to write "affect", but "effect" is actually the perfect word in this case. (And for extra marks, "affect" as a noun means...?) Tony H. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:51:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBANpVBp018486 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:51:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75C00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:49:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 613825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:49:11 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBANnAV22734 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:49:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBANn9Gn074283 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:49:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210184757.00b31660@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:49:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <3FD762DA.21566.4DD4F3C9@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210081823.00b5d0a0@pop.gwi.net> <20031210131313.52202.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural conglomerate effect obesity in > > America? > >Bonnie! I'm betting you meant to write "affect", but "effect" is >actually the perfect word in this case. I thought about it and decided, in this case, either would do. I used effect in my sentence to mean "brings about". >(And for extra marks, "affect" as a noun means...?) >Tony H. One has a certain style, an attitude, a way of holding oneself, an affect. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 17:58:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBANwvBp018639 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:58:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75C0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:56:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:56:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBANubV23187 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:56:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBANuZeO019037 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:56:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBANuYa2018992; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:56:35 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031210155847.00b51c90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:59:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: proud Papa moment In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congrats all around! B At 04:26 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I don't know if I mentioned here that my son will be working as a >Wilderness education Counselor for Eckerd Youth Alternatives >http://www.eckerd.org/index2.htm > > he just got his assignment and it will be to their camp in Boomer, North > Carolina. They're flying him down this weekend for an orientation > session and around the first of the year he will report for three weeks > of training. It does my heart good to see him find what seems to be the > perfect job for his skills and interests. > >:-) > >BrP > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB020Bp018713 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:02:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021381D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:59:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:59:40 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBANxdV23381 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:59:39 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 66C432B900; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:59:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB842B57C for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:59:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:59:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210184757.00b31660@pop.gwi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, bonniev wrote: > I thought about it and decided, in this case, either would do. I used > effect in my sentence to mean "brings about". > YaY. I figured you knew what you were doing. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:19:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0JtBp018959 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75C6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:17:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:17:35 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0HYV25224 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:17:35 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB0HSTs8527970 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:17:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:17:28 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FD7A0CE.2090305@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210171909.0805f560@pop.gwi.net> <3FD7A0CE.2090305@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > to settle in front of the electree teevee with a bag of popcorn. Another pawn of ADM and its mind-altering, genetically engineered, processed corn food! -- Richard, velveeta is PEOPLE! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:21:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0LvBp018975 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:21:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75C61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:19:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:19:37 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0JaV25346 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:19:36 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB0JUTs3596342 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:30 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:30 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312102248.hBAMm7V15998@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312102248.hBAMm7V15998@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman : >students who are very distractable -- doing something with >their hands keeps them focused. Oh, yes, a darning egg (is that what it's properly called?) got me through college. -- Richard, one-handed note-taker From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0ODBp018985 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:24:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75C7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:21:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 614910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:21:53 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0LrV25533 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:21:53 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB0LkTs4161728 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:21:46 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:21:46 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Bonnie's the one in the cat's seat here. O.K., a language-related question here: Is "cat's seat" the St. Louis (or Boston) expression? "Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. Neither of which makes any sense to me... -- Richard, tearin' up the pea patch From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0QFBp019002 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:26:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00213886@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:48 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0NmV25892 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:48 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ce.15fcdcaf (14374) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ce.15fcdcaf.2d091307@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 6:17:40 PM Central Standard Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << Richard, velveeta is PEOPLE! >> Only in the movie; in the book, it's a soy product. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:26:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0QLBp019016 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:26:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75CA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:24:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:24:01 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0O1V25923 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:24:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211002355.TUOX12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7B91A.9060306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:23:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <20031210131313.52202.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <3FD762DA.21566.4DD4F3C9@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FD762DA.21566.4DD4F3C9@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tony Harminc wrote: >>And how, exactly, does a huge agricultural conglomerate effect obesity in >>America? > > Bonnie! I'm betting you meant to write "affect", but "effect" is > actually the perfect word in this case. I assumed that she meant "effect." It seems, as you say, a perfectly logical word for the context. > (And for extra marks, "affect" as a noun means...?) It's a term used in psych -- means something like emotional state. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0THBp019068 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:29:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75CB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:26:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:26:57 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0QuV26153 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:26:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211002651.TVUY12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:26:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7B9CC.7030601@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:26:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <7e.42f8920c.2d090407@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <7e.42f8920c.2d090407@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > At drugstore.com? Maybe I should wait. Hmm. Does Wmart sell things > like this? I've never looked. Maybe I could buy it ftf instead of > ordering. > I know Sears does; I guess WM would, too. Thanks. Maybe I'll check WM. I needed to go there today, for grocery shopping, but the icy blasts were really eating into me. I had to be out in the winter nastiness on campus and just couldn't bring myself to go anywhere else. The wind was like a knife. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:31:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0VtBp019127 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:31:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75CA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0TZV26334 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211002929.TWZZ12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7BA6B.3070608@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:29:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210171909.0805f560@pop.gwi.net> <3FD7A0CE.2090305@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>to settle in front of the electree teevee with a bag of popcorn. > > Another pawn of ADM and its mind-altering, > genetically engineered, processed corn food! I skipped hurriedly through that discussion, not paying very much attention. I did get the idea that it was anti-corn, but I don't really know why. I like corn and have never thought of it as unhealthful. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:32:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0WDBp019134 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:32:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75CC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:53 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0TrV26344 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:53 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.20.1e426944 (14374) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:43 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <20.1e426944.2d091477@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:43 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Paraffin bath To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 6:27:06 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I needed to go there today, for grocery shopping, but the icy blasts were really eating into me. I had to be out in the winter nastiness on campus and just couldn't bring myself to go anywhere else. The wind was like a knife. >> How does Spencer handle winter? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:34:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0Y4Bp019157 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:34:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75CB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:31:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0VhV26557 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:31:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.171.250]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211003138.TXVK12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:31:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD7BAEB.4040500@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:31:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Bonnie's the one in the cat's seat here. > > O.K., a language-related question here: > > Is "cat's seat" the St. Louis (or Boston) > expression? > > "Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. I assumed that Rita had accidentally left out bird. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:35:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0ZBBp019167 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:35:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75CD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:32:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:32:50 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0WoV26676 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:32:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBB0WlGp079149; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:32:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210191948.00b62b18@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:24:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:58 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > >>>The cooking doesn't always take time, but the planning, buying, and >>>preparing require time that people don't always have. >> >> >>That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. And I don't know where you >>learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), buying (i.e., shopping), and >>preparation are all part of cooking well. > > > OK, here's Crock #3. Some of us simply don't give a shit. No, Rita, thats NOT a crock. What IS a crock is people who adhere to your #3 but offer #s 1 and 2 as feeble excuses. I still could eat better, i.e., healthier, than I do. I could be in a lot better physical shape. No question. The difference is that I don't blame some outside influence for my own weaknesses nor do I try to set myself up as some unwitting victim of Big . cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:35:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB0ZvBp019173 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:35:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75CD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 615719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:37 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB0XbV26735 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:37 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBB0XXAt013690; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210192553.00b12fb0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312102306.hBAN6KV17809@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:06 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >1) experience. 2) knowledge of ingredients 3) organizational skills >4) income 5) time to plan 6) time to prepare 7) time to clean up 8) >resources (eg access to the tools). Nonsense. I grew up helping run a family business that most years was precarious at best. My mother handled the retail end in addition to helping dad and I when we were working around the place. In the tourist season, our days generally ran from 6 a.m. to about 11 p.m. Nonetheless, there always were meals on the table (three times a day). Gourmet, nah. Good-tasting, yes. And she did very little more than the average farm wife in those parts (where farming was a bit precarious as well). It simply takes the will. I will grant you that there are some in this country, unfortunately, who have damned little income and---as Rashmi pointed out in a related discussion sometime past---very limited access to "good" foodstuffs. Nonetheless, for most, it is a choice, so spare me the knee-jerk liberal angst. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1AdBp019595 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75D52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:08:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB18IV29773 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:08:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB18Hrm009435 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:08:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:08:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1523818378.20031210190834@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312102240.hBAMe4V14894@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312102240.hBAMe4V14894@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > What matters is that this is yet another important reason to make > changes in how we personally live, shop, etc, if we wish for > different consequences. Yes--and we can personally try to influence decisions that our government makes. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:14:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1EJBp019686 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:14:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75D65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:11:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:11:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1BwV30145 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:11:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB1Bvrm013062 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:11:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:12:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <822864833.20031210191214@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >>The cooking doesn't always take time, but the planning, buying, and >>preparing require time that people don't always have. > That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. Uh-huh. > And I don't know where you learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), > buying (i.e., shopping), and preparation are all part of cooking > well. Yes, they are. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:15:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1F1Bp019712 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:15:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75D4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:12:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:12:40 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1CeV30218 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:12:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1CcbU028483 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:12:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD7C418.1050307@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:10:48 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> <3FD7A4FB.2080008@maynor.net> <3FD7A55E.7010408@swbell.net> <3FD7A7B0.2070300@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Those things, like, SO go on sale marked down to nothing >> right after Christmas. > > > At drugstore.com? Maybe I should wait. Hmm. Does Wmart sell things > like this? I've never looked. Maybe I could buy it ftf instead of > ordering. Everywhere. Walmart, Kmart, Sears, Dillards, you name it. They're ubiquitous. I guarantee they will be appearing on a Walgreen's sign soon. Unless you're looking for something really special. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1GBBp019726 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:16:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75D6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:13:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1DoV30346 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:13:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB1Dnrm014865 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:13:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:14:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <96928882.20031210191407@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin bath In-Reply-To: <3FD7A7B0.2070300@maynor.net> References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> <3FD7A4FB.2080008@maynor.net> <3FD7A55E.7010408@swbell.net> <3FD7A7B0.2070300@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > At drugstore.com? Maybe I should wait. Hmm. Does Wmart sell things > like this? I've never looked. Maybe I could buy it ftf instead of > ordering. Yes. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:20:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1KcBp019759 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:20:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75D76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:18:18 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1IHV30862 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1IG9B010510 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:18:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD7C56A.2080607@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:16:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <21b3f221df52.21df5221b3f2@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Paul Barfoot > >>I find it silly that anyone would view knitting in public as rude >>behavior, though I don't doubt they do. >> > > I find it odd when people knit during meetings. I guess because I'm > an incessant note-taker and I can't see how one can knit and take > notes at the same time. I also think it seems as if your attention is > divided, although I know that people who knit say they can knit and > dedicate their attention to a speaker at the same time. I know I can't, > I'm surely at least a little ADD. I don't think you're ADD at all. ADD is not a short attention span or hyperactivity, you know. It has become a synonym for it, and the pharmaceutical companies would like us all to be either ADD, believe an uncomfortable burp means we have acid reflux, or sniffle enough to claim an allergy to the air we breath, but it isn't so! Sorry, pet peeve. I deal with enough *actual* ADD and ADHD... -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:22:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1MtBp019797 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:22:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021396C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:20:35 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1KYV31012 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:20:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1KY9B012628 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:20:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD7C5F3.8040803@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:18:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312102245.hBAMj0V15536@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > ADD probably doesn't have as much to do with whether or not knitting helps, > as the habit or preference for remembering that which you write better than > that which you hear. In her case, notetaking isn't helpful; she has a > neurological lapse whenever she tries to write and pay attention at the > same time, so knitting, which is a learned schema with little attention, > helps. Of course, a beginning knitter frowning over each stitch will derive > less benefit than a practiced one.... Sounds like a type of CAPD -- Central Auditory Processing Disorder. It's a description of symptoms more than a diagnoses, but I have maybe 10 or so students with it this year. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:23:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1NrBp019803 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:23:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75D98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:21:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:21:32 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1LWV31084 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:21:32 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.81.10391be (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:21:18 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <81.10391be.2d09208e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:21:18 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 3:16:04 PM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >I find it silly that anyone would view knitting in public as rude behavior, >though I don't doubt they do. > I find it worse than silly, but I can't think of the right word just now. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:28:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1S6Bp019856 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:28:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213946@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:46 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1PkV31330 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:46 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12e.373adebd (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12e.373adebd.2d09218e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:25:34 EST Subject: Re: proud Papa moment To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 3:26:53 PM, Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU writes: >I don't know if I mentioned here that my son will be working as a Wilderness >education Counselor for Eckerd Youth Alternatives >http://www.eckerd.org/index2.htm > Congratulation to your son for finding the perfect job. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:29:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1T1Bp019860 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1QeV31396 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:26:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1Qd9B018085 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:26:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD7C761.5050303@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:24:49 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> <3FD7BAEB.4040500@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > mene tekel parsin wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>> Bonnie's the one in the cat's seat here. >> >> >> O.K., a language-related question here: >> >> Is "cat's seat" the St. Louis (or Boston) >> expression? >> >> "Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. > > > I assumed that Rita had accidentally left out bird. Yup. My freshmen this year, who are otherwise driving me insane, are very, very good at picking out my little Bostonisms. They're about done with sentence diagramming, so I think I'm going to do a little linguistics unit with them just for kicks, and because they're always very interested when I explain some English bitchiness to them. BTW, I'm doing the last-minute grade scramble routine, too. It's a lot different on the high school level, though. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:30:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1UhBp019894 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:30:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75DA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:28:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 617939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:28:22 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1SMV31551 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:28:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1SL9B019627 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:28:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD7C7C5.9020503@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:26:29 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210191948.00b62b18@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > I still could eat better, i.e., healthier, than I do. I could be in a lot > better physical shape. No question. The difference is that I don't blame > some outside influence for my own weaknesses nor do I try to set myself up > as some unwitting victim of Big . You're just in Da Nile, dude! ;) -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:33:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1XABp019931 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75DA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:49 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1UnV31868 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-63.gwi.net [216.195.152.63]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBB1UkAt023236; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210202958.00b66ff0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <3FD7C7C5.9020503@swbell.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154147.00b505a8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210174901.00b5d5d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210191948.00b62b18@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:26 PM 12/10/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > You're just in Da Nile, dude! ;) Yeah, that must be it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:45:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1jLBp020077 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:45:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75DB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:43:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:42:15 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1gFV32751 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:42:15 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1g8Ts9371672 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:42:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:42:08 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <1ce.15fcdcaf.2d091307@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <1ce.15fcdcaf.2d091307@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Only in the movie; in the book, it's a soy product. Really? I didn't even know there was a book. In the book, what'd they do with all the dead bodies? > don't know why we're paying so much > for rent if they can't keep the walks free > of ice! That's kindly provided by the landlord so you can cool your cocktails. -- Richard, "Mike! More ice!" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:47:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1lcBp020099 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:47:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002139B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:45:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:45:17 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1jHV00508 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:45:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.16.3923eb01 (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:45:10 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <16.3923eb01.2d092626@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:45:10 EST Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 4:53:07 PM, cwv@GWI.NET writes: >That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. And I don't know where you >learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), buying (i.e., shopping), and >preparation are all part of cooking well. > >cwv > I have to agree with that. But perhaps I learned it a different way from a different culture. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1mqBp020116 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75DD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:46:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:46:31 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1aUV32273 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:36:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 19676 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:36:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:36:29 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Congratulations to Netherlands Message-ID: <20031211013629.GA16764@words-l.org> References: <200312090405.hB945HS05779@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:11:26PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > Hey, ever hear the study of the inbred families in a > > small town in rural upstate NY? It was done in the 30's > > and I am having a "senior moment" over the names in the > > study - it was supposed to prove that cousins breed badly. > > Turned out to be a hoax, the data doctored to prove a > > moral point; but the supposed families were in "my neck". > > Kallikaks or something like that. I haven't googled yet, I'm going with > Kallikak. Please ... google before you post. Cable Subscriber From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:49:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1nfBp020124 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:49:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75DE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:47:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:47:20 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1bJV32342 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:37:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 19897 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:37:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:37:18 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: yes! Message-ID: <20031211013718.GB16764@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 08:13:20PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > Subject: yes! I will have to ask you to calm down, please. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:51:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1pPBp020184 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:51:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75DEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:49:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:49:04 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1d3V32434 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:39:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 20364 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:39:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:39:02 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cloven sky Message-ID: <20031211013902.GC16764@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 07:55:57PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > The 'cloven sky' sung in the carol "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear" always > confused me as a child. I associated it with cloves, or with cloven > hoofs. > > It occurred to me to google on "cloven sky" tonight to find the rest of > the lyrics (do you call words to carols 'lyrics'?) > > I learned (I think) that 'cloven sky' means dark sky split by rays of > dawn. > > I also found the phrase in George Herbert and in translations of Song of > Roland. This is rather obsolete stuff, I am afraid. We prefer a photorealistic graphic of dark sky split by rays. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:51:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1pxBp020190 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:51:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75DE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:49:38 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1dcV32462 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:39:38 -0500 Received: (qmail 20518 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:39:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:39:37 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: customer service Message-ID: <20031211013937.GD16764@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 07:57:37PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > When I get an e-mailed reply to my customer service inquiry, inquiry made > this a.m. and reply received 7:30 PST, that means I'm probably being > replied to outside our continent, right? Right. There is no need to player hate. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:54:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1sDBp020204 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:54:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75DEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:51:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:51:52 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1fqV32696 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:41:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 21268 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:41:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:41:51 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wintry hello Message-ID: <20031211014151.GE16764@words-l.org> References: <200312090225.hB92PmS28368@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:47:33PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > "Radical Ecstacy" is a REALLY GOOD title. I defend your right to think so. Personally, it makes me tense and angry, as if I have been put in a spot where I don't want to be by a spoken-word protest poet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 19:57:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB1vrBp020245 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:57:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75DE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:55:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:55:32 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB1tWV01205 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:55:32 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB1t9Ts2465880 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:55:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:55:09 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FD7BA6B.3070608@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210171909.0805f560@pop.gwi.net> <3FD7A0CE.2090305@maynor.net> <3FD7BA6B.3070608@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I did get the idea that it was anti-corn It was anti-*subsidized corn*, not just corn. What irritates me is all that corn being squandered on things like animal feed and sweeteners when it belongs in whiskey. -- J. Beam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:03:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB233Bp020339 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:03:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75E02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:42 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB20gV01576 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:42 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b6.2601f89c (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:30 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:29 EST Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 6:30:42 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > I like corn and have never thought of it as unhealthful. Natalie ------ I've never cared much for corn, and definitely don't like popcorn. I was very surprised to discover it here fit for human consumption, because the Dutch only used it for cattlefood when I was growing up. Perhaps it's changed by now? I dunno Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:03:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB239Bp020356 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:03:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75E0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:00:48 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1omV00925 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:50:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 24150 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:50:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:50:47 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: We're all getting skinnier! Message-ID: <20031211015047.GF16764@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:21:00AM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > Subject: We're all getting skinnier! There is truly very little need to yip excitedly. However, I do agree with the report; I can name 10 or more people I personally know who have visibly lost weight in the last two years. I also conjecture that women are leading this change, and most of them used to be somewhat heavier than their "hottest looking" weight. Your mileage may vary. Moreover, I must state honestly that I do not believe "Harry Balzer" to be a real name, although that does not damage my credulity towards the report. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:09:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB29DBp020406 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:09:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75E15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:06:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:06:51 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB26pV01936 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:06:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB26nbU004374 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:06:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD7D0C8.8070009@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:04:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312102248.hBAMm7V15998@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:43:09 -0600, Rita Chapman > wrote: > > >>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >> >>>Apart from observing attitudes toward handiwork shifting from approving >>> > to > >>>disapproving, it's interesting to note that my daughter, who's pretty >>>distractible, found that knitting improved her concentration in classes. >>> >> >> I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to >>students who are very distractable -- doing something with >>their hands keeps them focused. >> >> > What a good teacher - I sure wish my kids had had you! Ha ;). It's self-preservation, believe me. This week I've decided to completely disregard the advice of my student teaching supervisor, who told me to quit pacing the front of my room because students find it distracting. They are distracted -- by me -- not everything else. There is something to be said for the right distraction. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:09:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB29LBp020417 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:09:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75DFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 618924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:07:00 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB1v0V01282 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:57:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 26144 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Dec 2003 01:56:59 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:56:59 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings Message-ID: <20031211015659.GA24624@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210184757.00b31660@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 03:59:38PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, bonniev wrote: > > > I thought about it and decided, in this case, either would do. I used > > effect in my sentence to mean "brings about". > > YaY. I figured you knew what you were doing. The nerdiness on this service has reached monstrous proportions. If we don't watch out, we will be playing online scrabble or wasting valuable time on "Bookworm". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2AvBp020426 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:10:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75E04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:08:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:08:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB28aV02123 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:08:36 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031211020830014007att1e> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:08:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: Going nomail till probably Saturday or Sunday Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:08:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi all, I'm going nomail for a few days. My grandmother died Monday night and I just can't keep up what with all the doings. If anyone wants to see her obituary, look tomorrow at http://www.masslive.com, click Paid Death Notices on the News+Biz menu, and search for Mona Drude. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:20:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2K4Bp020561 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:20:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75E38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:17:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:17:42 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB2HgV02942 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:17:42 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:17:35 PST Message-ID: <20031211021735.86445.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210161152.00b58e00@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > I've always had the time. One of the biggest crocks > is that cooking well > demands a lot of time. I agree. It's a matter of managing time in your mind when you are doing something you love to do. If I organize well ahead of time, preparation goes quickly. And thinking about cooking is one of its joys. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2MTBp020602 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:22:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75E33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:20:08 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2K1V03092 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:20:01 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3c.38d8f0a9 (30970) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <3c.38d8f0a9.2d092e46@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:19:50 EST Subject: Re: Going nomail till probably Saturday or Sunday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 8:09:11 PM, adamh1@COMCAST.NET writes: >I'm going nomail for a few days. My grandmother died Monday night and I >just can't keep up what with all the doings. > > I'm sorry, Adam. I remember my maternal grandma's death, but I didn't get to go to the funeral, because it was in a different town, and I had to go to school. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:23:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2NLBp020611 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:23:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75E3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB2L0V03140 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:20:54 PST Message-ID: <20031211022054.63877.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:20:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: proud Papa moment To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > I don't know if I mentioned here that my son will be > working as a Wilderness education Counselor for > Eckerd Youth Alternatives > http://www.eckerd.org/index2.htm Double YaY! This is a kid after my own heart. How old is he? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:27:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2R1Bp020683 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213A44@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2EUV02642 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:14:30 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB2DGIi004569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:13:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:14:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to >students who are very distractable -- doing something with What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:27:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2R1Bp020684 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00213A49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:32 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2OWV03637 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:32 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.59.1054291 (3924) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:14 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <59.1054291.2d092f4e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:14 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 7:43:36 PM Central Standard Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << Really? I didn't even know there was a book. >> Yes, it's called _Make Room! Make Room!_ by Harry Harrison; it's been out since 1967. The book was about major overpopulation; it's been about 30 years since I read it, but it's still available. The movie added the cannibalism out of "spicing up" the story. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:28:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2SDBp020692 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:28:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75E82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:25:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:25:52 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2PqV03783 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:25:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.b7.3a3f3d42 (3924) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:25:44 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 7:43:36 PM Central Standard Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << That's kindly provided by the landlord so you can cool your cocktails. >> No, that's what the ice on the sides and top of the freezer is for. I spent most of the day salting and sweeping the walk so I can get to work tomorrow. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:30:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2UqBp020749 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213A39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:28:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:28:31 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB2SUV04055 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:28:30 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:28:25 PST Message-ID: <20031211022825.89597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312102240.hBAMe4V14894@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > All the responsibility for making things better is > in the present and the > future. Well said and true. So, in my mind, it is a waste of time to falter around placing blame for every misfortune or unpleasant thing in life. My life is my responsibility, not anyone else's. Time to go learn about forensic linguistics on Court TV. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:32:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2WcBp020785 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:32:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75E9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:30:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:30:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2UGV04176 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:30:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB2TNKX029693 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:29:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <447209211.20031210203032@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20031211022825.89597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031211022825.89597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > So, in my mind, it is a waste of > time to falter around placing blame for every > misfortune or unpleasant thing in life. My life is my > responsibility, not anyone else's. That doesn't obviate your responsibility to try to take care of the future, if you can. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:35:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2ZTBp020828 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:35:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75E9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:33:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 619647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:33:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2N8V03321 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:23:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB2LsIi007167 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:23:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20031211021735.86445.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031211021735.86445.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > And thinking about cooking is one of its joys. Your title: _The Joy of Thinking about Cooking_. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:43:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2hwBp020919 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:43:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75EC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:41:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 620500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:41:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2VaV04247 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:31:36 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB2UMIi009731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:30:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: hand creams Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are several hand creams marketed under the No-Crack label - they are all quite good. I buy mine at Parker Bros. Hardware Store (an Ace store). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 20:59:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB2xCBp021178 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:59:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75EC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:56:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 621207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:55:54 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f16.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.16]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB2tLV06047 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:55:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:55:16 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.52 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:55:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.52] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: bah humbug Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:55:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2003 02:55:16.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[3453BF60:01C3BF92] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: > >Anyone catch -Bad Santa- yet? It's directed by the guy who made > >Crumb and Ghost World. I enjoyed it, though I ordinarily can't stand > >Billy Bob Thornton. Don't take the kids, it's not a sweet, sappy > >Christmas flick though some redemption-type stuff creeps in at > >the very end. Until then there's profanity and booze and rudeness > >and lotsa gross-out humor. Terry Zwigoff is da man. >I was happy for the redemption part. I find drunkard movies (a la Leaving >Las Vegas, The Lost Weekend -- "I'm not a drinker--I'm a drunk." ) very >depressing. Ah. I saw Billy Bob's character as loser first, drunkard next. Cranky losers are interesting to watch. Cranky Jack Nicholson otoh is boring, hammy and repetitive. _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids’ toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 21:19:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB3JJBp021491 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:19:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75F19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 621559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:16:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB36eV06786 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:06:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBB35QIi020467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:05:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:06:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <20031211022825.89597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031211022825.89597.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Time to go learn about forensic linguistics on Court TV. Thanks for the reminder - I would have forgotten. Q: What was the most inaccurate statement made by Chaski? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 21:37:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB3bGBp021714 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:37:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75F42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:34:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:34:55 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB3YtV08759 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:34:55 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:34:49 PST Message-ID: <20031211033449.29915.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD7A516.2010507@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > That's Super Grand Economy Size Crock #2. And I > don't know where you > > learned, but planning (i.e., thinking), buying > (i.e., shopping), and > > preparation are all part of cooking well. > > > OK, here's Crock #3. Some of us simply > don't give a shit. > No, really. It's nice to eat well (and you're a > fantastic > cook), but thinking about food is really, really > boring for > me. You would probably find poring over cavaletti > designs a > big yawn, well that's a crock! You'd have much > better > abdominals if you actually *did* some cavaletti > exercises > now and then, buster! Not to mention a firmer ass. > No > excuses now! > > Iow, when people say they have no time, they > mean they don't > have enough interest to devote what time they have > to the task. > > Bonnie's the one in the cat's seat here. PLEASE, do not contract the flu. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:02:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB42XBp022026 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:02:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213D3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:00:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:00:11 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB40BV12411 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:00:11 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:00:05 PST Message-ID: <20031211040005.91304.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:00:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: We're all getting skinnier! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031211015047.GF16764@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Moreover, I must state honestly that I do not > believe "Harry > Balzer" to be a real name, although that does not > damage my > credulity towards the report. If the Hog saith it, it must be true. Who more qualified to rule on the authenticity of pen-names? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB445Bp022045 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75F8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:51:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:51:42 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB3pgV10840 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:51:42 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:51:33 PST Message-ID: <20031211035133.42525.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin > "Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. > > Neither of which makes any sense to me... > This phrase puzzled me at fist when I moved to AL, because I didn't know a catbird either, let alone where his seat was. As per my AL grown husband, the catbird seeks the high points of birdland to spy on all fowl doings. So, I guess he has more knowledge, and knowledge is power. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB445Bp022046 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75F75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:53:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 622984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:53:03 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB3r3V10975 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:53:03 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:52:58 PST Message-ID: <20031211035258.12479.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FD7B91A.9060306@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's a term used in psych -- means something like > emotional state. The word affectation helps me remember. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB445Bp022047 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75F9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:54:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:54:26 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB3sQV11210 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:54:26 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:54:19 PST Message-ID: <20031211035419.36188.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:54:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210191948.00b62b18@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > No, Rita, thats NOT a crock. What IS a crock is > people who adhere to your > #3 but offer #s 1 and 2 as feeble excuses. > > I still could eat better, i.e., healthier, than I > do. I could be in a lot > better physical shape. No question. The difference > is that I don't blame > some outside influence for my own weaknesses nor do > I try to set myself up > as some unwitting victim of Big . YaY! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:08:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB488Bp022111 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:08:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75FD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:05:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:05:47 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB45lV13241 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:05:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:05:41 PST Message-ID: <20031211040541.33483.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:05:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Going nomail till probably Saturday or Sunday To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm going nomail for a few days. My grandmother died > Monday night and I just > can't keep up what with all the doings. I will be thinking of you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4BqBp022148 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:11:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75FCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:09:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 623973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:09:30 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB49UV13672 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:09:30 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:09:25 PST Message-ID: <20031211040925.47146.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:09:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >Time to go learn about forensic linguistics on > Court TV. > > Thanks for the reminder - I would have forgotten. > > Q: What was the most inaccurate statement made by > Chaski? You tell me, Professor. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:13:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4DFBp022166 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:13:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75FCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:10:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:10:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4AsV13975 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:10:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213DA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:10:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110410.hBB4AsV13975@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:10:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:19:30 -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: >Rita Chapman : >>students who are very distractable -- doing something with >>their hands keeps them focused. > >Oh, yes, a darning egg (is that what it's >properly called?) got me through college. > >-- >Richard, one-handed note-taker It is, and I'm absolutely fascinated - but please don't tell me what you did with it! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4EeBp022183 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:14:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75FCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:12:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:12:18 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4CIV14154 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:12:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A75FE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:12:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110412.hBB4CIV14154@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:12:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:29:31 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >mene tekel parsin wrote: > >> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>to settle in front of the electree teevee with a bag of popcorn. >> >> Another pawn of ADM and its mind-altering, >> genetically engineered, processed corn food! > >I skipped hurriedly through that discussion, not paying very much >attention. I did get the idea that it was anti-corn, but I don't really >know why. I like corn and have never thought of it as unhealthful. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) rtfw-l. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:16:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4GvBp022239 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:16:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213DA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4EZV14437 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213D79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:14:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110414.hBB4EZV14437@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:14:35 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:33:33 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 06:06 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>1) experience. 2) knowledge of ingredients 3) organizational skills >>4) income 5) time to plan 6) time to prepare 7) time to clean up 8) >>resources (eg access to the tools). > >Nonsense. I grew up helping run a family business that most years was >precarious at best. My mother handled the retail end in addition to >helping dad and I when we were working around the place. In the tourist >season, our days generally ran from 6 a.m. to about 11 p.m. Nonetheless, >there always were meals on the table (three times a day). Gourmet, >nah. Good-tasting, yes. And she did very little more than the average >farm wife in those parts (where farming was a bit precarious as well). It >simply takes the will. I will grant you that there are some in this >country, unfortunately, who have damned little income and---as Rashmi >pointed out in a related discussion sometime past---very limited access to >"good" foodstuffs. > >Nonetheless, for most, it is a choice, so spare me the knee-jerk liberal angst. > >cwv Since when is acknowledging a lack of organizational skills "knee-jerk liberal angst"? All you've done above is show that you have it and that your mother had it as well. Good for you. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:18:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4ITBp022277 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:18:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75FF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:08 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBB4G7V14628 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:08 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:16:02 PST Message-ID: <20031211041602.40663.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:16:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312110412.hBB4CIV14154@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: I did get the idea that it was > anti-corn, but I don't really > >know why. I like corn and have never thought of it > as unhealthful. > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > rtfw-l. Indeed. And anyone who is anti-corn is showing me the door. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:19:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4JIBp022290 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:19:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A75FD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4GuV14705 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213DB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110416.hBB4GuV14705@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:16:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:18:43 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> ADD probably doesn't have as much to do with whether or not knitting helps, >> as the habit or preference for remembering that which you write better than >> that which you hear. In her case, notetaking isn't helpful; she has a >> neurological lapse whenever she tries to write and pay attention at the >> same time, so knitting, which is a learned schema with little attention, >> helps. Of course, a beginning knitter frowning over each stitch will derive >> less benefit than a practiced one.... > > > Sounds like a type of CAPD -- Central Auditory Processing >Disorder. It's a description of symptoms more than a >diagnoses, but I have maybe 10 or so students with it this year. > > > >-- >Rita Rouvalis Chapman >rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >http://www.etext.org/~rita > > The CAPD I'm familiar with is pretty severe. The more likely diagnosis - if it rose to that level - would have been dysgraphia, I believe. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:19:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4JkBp022300 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:19:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A75FF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:17:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 624181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:17:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4HOV14798 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:17:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB4HNrm025008 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:17:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:17:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <945334188.20031210221741@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I drop the full needle, take the empty needle from my hand with my now > empty hand, Your right? > and pick up the full needle with my wrapped hand. The left? I tried this a couple of times, and while I'm not yet fluent, I think I can manage it without looking any more like an idiot than I do when I change needles with my other hand. > I use double pointed needles or circular needles whenever I can, not > just socks; Me, too. I'm using a circular for a patchwork blanket I'm making. Come to think of it, I don't own any straight needles. Even if I made sweaters, I'd make them on circulars. > but on occasion I have lost a dp needle and had to > continue with a pair of dps and a pair of straights. In that > instance, I do have to transfer stitches at intervals. Aieeee! This would kill me. Last year I lost a knitting needle on an airplane; I was forced to continue on four needles instead of 5, and that was horrible. I guess I am much more of a creature of habit than I look. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4UCBp022451 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:30:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213F9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:27:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 628747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:27:47 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4RlV17028 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:27:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76231@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:27:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110427.hBB4RlV17028@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:26:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Going nomail till probably Saturday or Sunday To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:08:29 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm going nomail for a few days. My grandmother died Monday night and I just >can't keep up what with all the doings. > >If anyone wants to see her obituary, look tomorrow at >http://www.masslive.com, click Paid Death Notices on the News+Biz menu, and >search for Mona Drude. > >--Adam I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother. We will be thinking about you. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:31:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4VGBp022462 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:31:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213FD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 628815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4SsV17181 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213FA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:28:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:14:29 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to >>students who are very distractable -- doing something with > > >What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? > >Bethany They probably have them already, in the form of pens, hair to twirl, watches or rings to fiddle with, notebooks to doodle in, etc. Manipulative - something that can be handled (manus). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:32:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4W1Bp022478 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:32:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213FD2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:29:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 628831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:29:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4TdV17259 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:29:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213FA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:29:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110429.hBB4TdV17259@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:29:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:24:14 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 12/10/2003 7:43:36 PM Central Standard Time, >rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: ><< >Really? I didn't even know there >was a book. >>> > >Yes, it's called _Make Room! Make Room!_ by Harry >Harrison; it's been out since 1967. The book was about >major overpopulation; it's been about 30 years since I >read it, but it's still available. The movie added the >cannibalism out of "spicing up" the story. > >Evelyn Duncan >brandykitt@aol.com >don't know why we're paying so much >for rent if they can't keep the walks free >of ice! Are we talking about Soilent Green? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:33:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4XiBp022487 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:33:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00213FDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 628906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:31:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4VDV17468 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:31:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213FAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:31:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110431.hBB4VDV17468@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:31:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:32 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> So, in my mind, it is a waste of >> time to falter around placing blame for every >> misfortune or unpleasant thing in life. My life is my >> responsibility, not anyone else's. > >That doesn't obviate your responsibility to try to take care of the >future, if you can. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism True, true - neither does it make it less useful to try to understand and appreciate the complexities of the past. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:36:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4aXBp022501 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:36:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A76261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:34:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 628956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:34:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4YBV17757 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:34:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00213FE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:34:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110434.hBB4YBV17757@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:34:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:51:33 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- mene tekel parsin > >"Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. >> >> Neither of which makes any sense to me... >> > > >This phrase puzzled me at fist when I moved to AL, >because I didn't know a catbird either, let alone >where his seat was. As per my AL grown husband, the >catbird seeks the high points of birdland to spy on >all fowl doings. So, I guess he has more knowledge, >and knowledge is power. > Ah. I had deduced that the catbird, like the cuckoo, laid its eggs in other nests. I must have been thinking, on reflection, about the cowbird. My inaccuracy led me to think that Bonnie was eating worms not of her own catching. Silly, and wrong - but fun to imagine. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:38:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4cbBp022520 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:38:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7625F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:36:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:36:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4aFV17983 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:36:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00213FED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:36:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110436.hBB4aFV17983@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:36:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:51:33 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- mene tekel parsin > >"Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. >> >> Neither of which makes any sense to me... >> > > >This phrase puzzled me at fist when I moved to AL, >because I didn't know a catbird either, let alone >where his seat was. As per my AL grown husband, the >catbird seeks the high points of birdland to spy on >all fowl doings. So, I guess he has more knowledge, >and knowledge is power. > And now I must come up with an explanation that permits me to say that I, too, have been "puzzled at fist". I wouldn't have attempted it just a few days ago; but now that I have learned how one can adapt to a new form of "7" and make it one's own, I feel encouraged toward the effort. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:41:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4fGBp022553 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:41:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:38:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:38:54 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4csV18809 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:38:54 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBB4cqkF006716 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:38:52 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBB4cqig006714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:38:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:38:51 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie Message-ID: <20031211043851.GB6630@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 12/10/2003 6:30:42 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: = = > I like corn and have never thought of it as unhealthful. = Natalie = ------ = I've never cared much for corn, and definitely don't like popcorn. = I was very surprised to discover it here fit for human consumption, because = the Dutch only used it for cattlefood when I was growing up. Perhaps it's = changed by now? I dunno Theo Not much. Corn on the cob started showing up in the markets here maybe 5 years ago. It's available canned or in a jar (but not frozen) at the supermarket, and the popcorn is with the specialty foreign items. Microwave popcorn can sometimes be had, one brand, buttered or not. My current hot air popper got bought in Germany, because we never saw one here. We were using our old 110 v one on the transformer for the longest time. When we first got here we used to bring a big bowl of popcorn to the Hacktic parties, and it was an immense hit. There's a yearly computer conference that sells hardware, books, computer stuff called the HCC dagen (http://www5.hccnet.nl/hccdagen2003/index.html) where we'd sell loose issues and subscriptions (and get spied on by spys) and we made popcorn there too - that was great fun. On the same theme, oatmeal can now sometimes be found at the supermarket. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:41:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4fcBp022561 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:41:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7627A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4dGV18892 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB4cNKX015245 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:38:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:39:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <106657058.20031210223933@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <200312110429.hBB4TdV17259@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312110429.hBB4TdV17259@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Are we talking about Soilent Green? Soylent soybeans and lentils When I saw the movie, I had never seen a lentil. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:42:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4gBBp022578 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:42:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A76283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4dnV18950 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:39:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB4dm6X001230 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:39:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:40:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1819464068.20031210224006@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312110431.hBB4VDV17468@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312110431.hBB4VDV17468@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:30:32 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >>> So, in my mind, it is a waste of >>> time to falter around placing blame for every >>> misfortune or unpleasant thing in life. My life is my >>> responsibility, not anyone else's. >> >>That doesn't obviate your responsibility to try to take care of the >>future, if you can. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > True, true - neither does it make it less useful to try to understand > and appreciate the complexities of the past. Ca va sans dire! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:43:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4hoBp022588 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:43:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76270@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:41:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:41:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4fSV19185 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:41:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213FE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:41:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110441.hBB4fSV19185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:41:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:17:41 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I drop the full needle, take the empty needle from my hand with my now >> empty hand, > >Your right? > >> and pick up the full needle with my wrapped hand. > >The left? *sigh*. That's the problem. I've been switching hands so long, I no longer remember which is right-handed knitting. Hence, "the wrapped hand", etc. > >I tried this a couple of times, and while I'm not yet fluent, I >think I can manage it without looking any more like an idiot than I do >when I change needles with my other hand. > >> I use double pointed needles or circular needles whenever I can, not >> just socks; > >Me, too. I'm using a circular for a patchwork blanket I'm making. >Come to think of it, I don't own any straight needles. > >Even if I made sweaters, I'd make them on circulars. > >> but on occasion I have lost a dp needle and had to >> continue with a pair of dps and a pair of straights. In that >> instance, I do have to transfer stitches at intervals. > >Aieeee! This would kill me. > >Last year I lost a knitting needle on an airplane; I was forced to >continue on four needles instead of 5, and that was horrible. I guess >I am much more of a creature of habit than I look. > When in doubt, use a pencil or chopstick. clo, practicing fierce make-do. >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:49:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4nnBp022691 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:49:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00213FFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:47:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:47:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4lRV20293 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:47:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214030@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:47:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312110447.hBB4lRV20293@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:47:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:38:51 +0100, steph wrote: >Theo Groothof: >= In a message dated 12/10/2003 6:30:42 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >= >= > I like corn and have never thought of it as unhealthful. >= Natalie >= ------ >= I've never cared much for corn, and definitely don't like popcorn. >= I was very surprised to discover it here fit for human consumption, because >= the Dutch only used it for cattlefood when I was growing up. Perhaps it's >= changed by now? I dunno Theo > >Not much. If what was grown and sold was field corn, a lot! When I was a kid, we would sometimes pick field corn - a form of gleaning I think was my father's reaction against always trying to set a good example after he went "into orders". Field corn is chewy, and flavorless shifting to bitter aftertaste. We called it "cow corn". A lot of country people ate it, though, when sweet corn was too expensive or hard to find. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 22:53:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB4rrBp022710 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:53:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A762AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:51:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 629723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:51:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB4pUV20634 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:51:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB4pTrm026250 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:51:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:51:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <119248880.20031210225147@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312110441.hBB4fSV19185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312110441.hBB4fSV19185@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> I drop the full needle, take the empty needle from my hand with my now >>> empty hand, >> >>Your right? >> >>> and pick up the full needle with my wrapped hand. >> >>The left? > *sigh*. That's the problem. I've been switching hands so > long, I no longer remember which is right-handed knitting. > Hence, "the wrapped hand", etc. Ah. When Patricia watched me knit English, she said that it's efficient because it's like Contintental but with the other hand. I am beginning to understand this, that it's the same with either hand. But for some reason, it feels SO different with the other set of hands that I get confused. > When in doubt, use a pencil or chopstick. > clo, > practicing fierce make-do. Not for a size 0 or 1 needle. I have skewers I use sometimes, but they are way too splintery. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 23:46:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB5kABp023263 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:46:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7644E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 0:43:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 633450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:43:47 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB5hlV25593 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:43:47 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.17a.23a79015 (30970) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <17a.23a79015.2d095e09@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:43:37 EST Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:39:17 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: >On the same theme, oatmeal can now sometimes be found at the >supermarket. > That's really weird because my mother made me eat the cooked stuff when I was little. But perhaps it wasn't oatmeal; can't seem to remember the dutch word for it, just that I hated it! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 10 23:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB5mJBp023290 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:48:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7646D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 0:45:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 633490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:45:57 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB5juV25729 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:45:56 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121105454601300bm5gue>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:45:46 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210193805.04351df0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Corn In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210160747.00bcfdb8@pop.gwi.net> References: <1533092244.20031210145722@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bonnie writes, >Perhaps corn is simply easier to grow and harvest in America than >cucumbers are. And that's why farmers plant it. A quick interview with writer Michael Pollan about some of the problems with corn overproduction in the US, and the some of the reasons it's hard to switch (Christian Science Monitor, 2002-10-31): http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1031/p17s01-lihc.html Two stats from that article which perhaps explain why corn is top of mind: "Of 10,000 items in a typical grocery store, at least 2,500 use corn in some form during production or processing." "In the US, corn leads all other crops in value and volume of production -- more than double that of any other crop." Two farming states' Congressional representatives view of Farm Bill 2002: http://www.kacvtv.org/perspective/farmbill/post2.shtml Farm Bill 2002 details (technical details, no simple context): http://www.usda.gov/farmbill/commodity_fb.html Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 00:03:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB63IBp023504 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:03:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A764B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 1:00:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 634114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:00:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB60uV26728 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:00:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1dd.16559d3d (30970) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:00:46 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1dd.16559d3d.2d09620d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:00:45 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:41:50 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >*sigh*. That's the problem. I've been switching hands so >long, I no longer remember which is right-handed knitting. >Hence, "the wrapped hand", etc. > Forgive me, if I have no idea what y'all talking about. I've been knitting since I was in 2nd grade, but do not known the difference between "english" and "continental" knitting. Also, what's a "wrapped hand"? Puzzled. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 00:14:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB6EnBp023632 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:14:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021420F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 1:12:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 634442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:12:26 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB6CQV27550 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:12:26 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBB6CMkF006923 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:12:22 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBB6CLN5006921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:12:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:12:21 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie Message-ID: <20031211061221.GA6915@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <17a.23a79015.2d095e09@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17a.23a79015.2d095e09@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:39:17 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: = = >On the same theme, oatmeal can now sometimes be found at the = >supermarket. = > = That's really weird because my mother made me eat the cooked stuff when I was = little. But perhaps it wasn't oatmeal; can't seem to remember the dutch word = for it, just that I hated it! = Theo havermout From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 02:43:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBB8hKBp025877 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:43:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A766C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 3:40:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 639251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 03:40:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBB8euV06176 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 03:40:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBB8esrm025910 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:40:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:41:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1711580673.20031211024113@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <1dd.16559d3d.2d09620d@aol.com> References: <1dd.16559d3d.2d09620d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > Forgive me, if I have no idea what y'all talking about. I've been knitting > since I was in 2nd grade, but do not known the difference between "english" and > "continental" knitting. Some people call the difference 'throwing' and 'picking'--it has to do with how you make the stitches. > Also, what's a "wrapped hand"? Puzzled. Theo The hand that has the yarn wrapped around it (to control tension). Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 05:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBBdQBp028407 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:39:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76828@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 6:37:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:37:01 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBBb1V16371 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:37:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.157.297d7a59 (3874) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:36:50 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <157.297d7a59.2d09b0d2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:36:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:29:57 PM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << Are we talking about Soilent Green? >> Yes, in the book, Soylent Green was a soy-based product; in the movie, it's human-based. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 05:52:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBBqHBp028560 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:52:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 6:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:49:52 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBBnqV17193 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:49:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBBnp9B016246 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:49:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD8598B.1050200@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:48:27 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312110416.hBB4GuV14705@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > The CAPD I'm familiar with is pretty severe. The more likely diagnosis - if > it rose to that level - would have been dysgraphia, I believe. I've seen milder cases of CAPD. Usually dysgraphia involves more than notetaking, doesn't it? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 05:57:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBBvNBp028600 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:57:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7685B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 6:54:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 642843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:54:58 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBBsvV17459 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:54:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBBsv9B019605 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:54:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD85ABD.7030606@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:53:33 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to >>students who are very distractable -- doing something with >> > > > What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? You're the teacher; you decide. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 06:09:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBC9pBp028738 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:09:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002145DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 7:07:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:07:15 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBC7FV04716 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:07:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.102]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211120709.BSKE1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:07:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD85DEF.3010400@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:07:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <20.1e426944.2d091477@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <20.1e426944.2d091477@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > How does Spencer handle winter? He doesn't seem to mind it. He seems downright indifferent to the elements. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 06:10:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBCAvBp028749 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:10:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76894@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 7:08:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:08:31 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBC8VV04817 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:08:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.134.102]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211120826.BSUE1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD85E3B.2040102@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:08:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin bath References: <288950075.20031208213835@WordWrite.com> <3FD7A4FB.2080008@maynor.net> <3FD7A55E.7010408@swbell.net> <3FD7A7B0.2070300@maynor.net> <3FD7C418.1050307@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FD7C418.1050307@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Everywhere. Walmart, Kmart, Sears, Dillards, you name it. > They're ubiquitous. I guarantee they will be appearing on a > Walgreen's sign soon. Unless you're looking for something > really special. Thank you. I've got to go to Wmart this afternoon. Will look for paraffin thingies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 06:31:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBCViBp029014 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:31:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A768D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 7:29:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:29:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBCJJV05667 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:19:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBCI1Ii029987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:18:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:19:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? >> > >They probably have them already, in the form of pens, hair to twirl, >watches or rings to fiddle with, notebooks to doodle in, etc. Then why does Rita have to hand her students pens, hair to twirl, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 06:37:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBCbLBp029082 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:37:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A768F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 7:34:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 643929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:34:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBCOuV06507 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:24:56 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBCNfIi031293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:23:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:24:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <200312110447.hBB4lRV20293@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312110447.hBB4lRV20293@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >If what was grown and sold was field corn, a lot! When I was a kid, we would >sometimes pick field corn - a form of gleaning I think was my father's >reaction against always trying to set a good example after he went "into >orders". Field corn is chewy, and flavorless shifting to bitter aftertaste. >We called it "cow corn". A lot of country people ate it, though, when sweet >corn was too expensive or hard to find. What kind of field corn did you grow, for Pete's sake? Our was always much more flavorful than the namby-pamby sweet corn that we also grew. I always preferred field corn. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 06:46:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBCjxBp029191 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:46:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76919@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 7:43:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:43:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBCXYV07197 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:33:34 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBCWKIi000625 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:32:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:33:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD85ABD.7030606@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> <3FD85ABD.7030606@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? > > You're the teacher; you decide. Okay - I'll try to find the word in the OED. - but I really thought I could count on words-l. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 06:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBCr0Bp029236 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:53:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A76939@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 7:50:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 644764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:34 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBCoYV08299 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:34 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:18 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Mona Lisa Smile Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBBCr0Bp029236 http://imdb.com/title/tt0304415/ went to see it last night with clo liked it BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:24:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDOABp029633 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:24:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A769B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:21:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:21:44 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBDLiV11170 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:21:44 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:21:37 PST Message-ID: <20031211132137.44511.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <17a.23a79015.2d095e09@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > That's really weird because my mother made me eat > the cooked stuff when I was > little. But perhaps it wasn't oatmeal; can't seem to > remember the dutch word > for it, just that I hated it! Perhaps it was the old fashioned, long cooking oatmeal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:28:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDSpBp029659 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:28:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A769C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:26:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:26:25 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDQPV11630 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:26:25 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBDQNGn028855 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:26:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082407.00b311e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:26:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: The catbird seat In-Reply-To: <20031211035133.42525.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >"Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. > > Neither of which makes any sense to me... > >This phrase puzzled me at fist when I moved to AL, >because I didn't know a catbird either, let alone >where his seat was. As per my AL grown husband, the >catbird seeks the high points of birdland to spy on >all fowl doings. So, I guess he has more knowledge, >and knowledge is power. Rita saying that I am in the catbird seat, with regard to Clyde's cooking, doesn't make sense to me either. I have no power. I'm not in charge. I simply eat what is put before me. I grant that I'm in an enviable, favorable position in that I eat well without having to cook (much) or, since retirement, shop. But that's not what the catbird seat means. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:31:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDVfBp029711 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:31:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214727@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:29:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:29:15 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDTFV11933 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:29:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBDTDAr076518 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:29:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:29:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <945334188.20031210221741@WordWrite.com> References: <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Last year I lost a knitting needle on an airplane; I was forced to >continue on four needles instead of 5, and that was horrible. I guess >I am much more of a creature of habit than I look. >Karen, practicing fierce optimism I've never knit on five needles, only four. This afternoon the stitch'n'bitch is at my house. Yeh! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:38:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDcABp029770 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:38:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A769F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:35:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:35:45 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDZjV12586 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:35:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76A02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:35:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111335.hBBDZjV12586@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:35:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:48:19 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Bonnie writes, > >>Perhaps corn is simply easier to grow and harvest in America than >>cucumbers are. And that's why farmers plant it. > >A quick interview with writer Michael Pollan about some of the problems >with corn overproduction in the US, and the some of the reasons it's hard >to switch (Christian Science Monitor, 2002-10-31): >http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1031/p17s01-lihc.html > >Two stats from that article which perhaps explain why corn is top of mind: > >"Of 10,000 items in a typical grocery store, at least 2,500 use corn in >some form during production or processing." Thanks, Pete! And this reminds me abt the missed point of the nun's story. It was the 10K items, and the high number of options after living a life of obedience and relative simplicity that made her cry. I've heard of people from other countries where the number of brands is more reasonable who have similar reactions - feeling overwhelmed, sometimes wanting to puke. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:40:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDeIBp029797 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:40:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A769F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:37:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:37:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDbqV12823 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:37:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00214727@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:37:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111337.hBBDbqV12823@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:37:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:00:45 EST, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:41:50 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > >>*sigh*. That's the problem. I've been switching hands so >>long, I no longer remember which is right-handed knitting. >>Hence, "the wrapped hand", etc. >> >Forgive me, if I have no idea what y'all talking about. I've been knitting >since I was in 2nd grade, but do not known the difference between "english" and >"continental" knitting. Also, what's a "wrapped hand"? Puzzled. Theo The hand that holds the unknitted thread is the "wrapped" hand to Karen and me, because she and I wind the thread around our fingers to help us control the tension. Continental - Dutch style knitting. English = similar to American knitting in our earlier conversation. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:41:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDfABp029802 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:41:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76A12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:38:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 646913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:38:44 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDciV13020 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:38:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A76A1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:38:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111338.hBBDciV13020@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:38:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:48:27 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> The CAPD I'm familiar with is pretty severe. The more likely diagnosis - if >> it rose to that level - would have been dysgraphia, I believe. > > > I've seen milder cases of CAPD. Usually dysgraphia involves >more than notetaking, doesn't it? > As indeed it does in this case. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:42:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDgWBp029826 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:42:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76A20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:40:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDe6V13360 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:40:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021476E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:40:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111340.hBBDe6V13360@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:40:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:24:56 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>If what was grown and sold was field corn, a lot! When I was a kid, we would >>sometimes pick field corn - a form of gleaning I think was my father's >>reaction against always trying to set a good example after he went "into >>orders". Field corn is chewy, and flavorless shifting to bitter aftertaste. >>We called it "cow corn". A lot of country people ate it, though, when sweet >>corn was too expensive or hard to find. > >What kind of field corn did you grow, for Pete's sake? Our was always >much more flavorful than the namby-pamby sweet corn that we also grew. I >always preferred field corn. > >Bethany Err, we didn't grow it. Whatever it was, it was future silage. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:47:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDlGBp029907 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:47:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76A44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:44:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:44:50 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDioV14367 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:44:50 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214799@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:44:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111344.hBBDioV14367@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:44:49 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:19:15 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? >>> >> >>They probably have them already, in the form of pens, hair to twirl, >>watches or rings to fiddle with, notebooks to doodle in, etc. > >Then why does Rita have to hand her students pens, hair to twirl, etc. > >Bethany *extremely explanatory mode* Some students may lack the imaganation to invent their own manipulatives, or have been trained out of such habits by earlier, repressive teachers. Rita keeps small objects on hand which she may hand to a student to hold and , thereby not only planting the suggestion but also giving permission to use up neurological overflow in a healthy manner, thus aiding concentration. */extremely explanatory mode* clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:49:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDnEBp029948 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:49:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76A51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:46:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:46:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDkmV14644 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:46:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002147A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:46:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111346.hBBDkmV14644@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:46:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:33:34 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>> What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? > >> >> You're the teacher; you decide. > >Okay - I'll try to find the word in the OED. - but I really thought I >could count on words-l. > >Bethany Fine, if you think it will give you more than "things which can be handled". Wouldn't you rather invite Rita to discuss what items have been effective as manipulables in her class? That seems more to the point. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:50:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDo0Bp029960 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A76A61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:47:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:47:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDlYV14892 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:47:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002147AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:47:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111347.hBBDlYV14892@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:47:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Mona Lisa Smile To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:18 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >http://imdb.com/title/tt0304415/ > >went to see it last night with clo > >liked it > > >BrP > > Thanks, BrP - I'm glad you came with! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDqvBp029985 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:52:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76A62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:50:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:50:31 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDoVV15337 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:50:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76A74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:50:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111350.hBBDoVV15337@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:50:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Mona Lisa Smile To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:50:18 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >http://imdb.com/title/tt0304415/ > >went to see it last night with clo > >liked it > > >BrP > BrP - if you want to see Juliet Stevenson again, watch "Bend it Like Beckham"! That was fun also - we saw it at the Westcott - it's really a neat kids' movie imho. Oops - gotta run to a meetin' clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:54:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDs0Bp029988 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:54:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002147CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:51:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 647984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:51:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDpYV15637 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:51:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021479E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:51:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111351.hBBDpYV15637@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:51:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The catbird seat To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:26:50 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> >"Cat bird seat" is the one I know of. >> > Neither of which makes any sense to me... >> >>This phrase puzzled me at fist when I moved to AL, >>because I didn't know a catbird either, let alone >>where his seat was. As per my AL grown husband, the >>catbird seeks the high points of birdland to spy on >>all fowl doings. So, I guess he has more knowledge, >>and knowledge is power. > >Rita saying that I am in the catbird seat, with regard to Clyde's cooking, >doesn't make sense to me either. I have no power. I'm not in charge. I >simply eat what is put before me. I grant that I'm in an enviable, >favorable position in that I eat well without having to cook (much) or, >since retirement, shop. But that's not what the catbird seat means. > > >bonnie On the other hand, my reading of getting someone else to sit the eggs and carry the worms works pretty good, huh? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 07:57:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBDvPBp030011 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:57:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002147E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 8:54:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 648363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:54:59 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBDsxV16779 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:54:59 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBDstAr080849 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:54:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211085327.00b60448@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:55:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <200312111340.hBBDe6V13360@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> When I was a kid, we would > >>sometimes pick field corn - a form of gleaning I think was my father's > >>reaction against always trying to set a good example after he went "into > >>orders". Field corn is chewy, and flavorless shifting to bitter aftertaste. > > >What kind of field corn did you grow, for Pete's sake? Our was always > >much more flavorful than the namby-pamby sweet corn that we also grew. I > >always preferred field corn. --Bethany > >Err, we didn't grow it. Whatever it was, it was future silage. >clo To my horror, I have to agree with Bethany here. We too used to snitch field corn from the edges of farmers' fields. If you got it when it was just ripened, it was very tasty indeed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 09:29:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBFTfBp031128 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:29:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76E2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 656973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:27:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBFRAd03428 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBFR96X007259 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:27:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:27:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <732315407.20031211092730@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Corn In-Reply-To: <200312111335.hBBDZjV12586@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312111335.hBBDZjV12586@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I've heard of people from other > countries where the number of brands is more reasonable who have similar > reactions - feeling overwhelmed, sometimes wanting to puke. Yes--I've had this feeling. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 09:43:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBFhJBp031301 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:43:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76EC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:40:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 658305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:40:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBFeqd05950 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:40:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBFeprm000868 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:40:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:41:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1416708117.20031211094112@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Adam's grandmother's obit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is at http://tinyurl.com/yrmw or http://www.legacy.com/masslive/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=1678609 I want to be her! "Mona's passion for dance spanned her life, beginning with childhood recitals and culminating in performances in her seventies, tap dancing with a local dance group." Whoever wrote this obituary really loved her. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 09:53:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBFr7Bp031465 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:53:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:50:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 659205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:50:31 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBFoVd07885 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:50:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00214BC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:50:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111550.hBBFoVd07885@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:50:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:55:22 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> >> When I was a kid, we would >> >>sometimes pick field corn - a form of gleaning I think was my father's >> >>reaction against always trying to set a good example after he went "into >> >>orders". Field corn is chewy, and flavorless shifting to bitter aftertaste. >> >> >What kind of field corn did you grow, for Pete's sake? Our was always >> >much more flavorful than the namby-pamby sweet corn that we also grew. I >> >always preferred field corn. --Bethany >> >>Err, we didn't grow it. Whatever it was, it was future silage. >>clo > >To my horror, I have to agree with Bethany here. We too used to snitch >field corn from the edges of farmers' fields. If you got it when it was >just ripened, it was very tasty indeed. > Ah, yes, the young corn was better; but it quickly became old and nasty. But Silver Queen, though a commercial variety, is very tasty also. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 10:03:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBG3tBp031620 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:03:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76F94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 660396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:01:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBG1Sd10221 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:01:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBG1R2f005377 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:01:27 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBG1QJC005346 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:01:27 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031211075424.00b3f608@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:56:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <200312110429.hBB4TdV17259@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Are we talking about Soilent Green? >clo Soylent. I always thought soy chunks were Soylent Beige. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 10:05:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBG5YBp031632 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:05:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A76FAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 660692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBG37d10873 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBG352f008068 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:03:05 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBG34JC008038; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:03:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031211075712.00b70ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:57:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings In-Reply-To: <200312110434.hBB4YBV17757@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:34 PM 12/10/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Ah. I had deduced that the catbird, like the cuckoo, >laid its eggs in other nests. I must have been >thinking, on reflection, about the cowbird. My >inaccuracy led me to think that Bonnie was eating >worms not of her own catching. Silly, and wrong - >but fun to imagine. > >clo That part is true, too. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 10:05:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBG5gBp031636 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:05:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A76FC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:03:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 660704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:03:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBG3Fd10896 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:03:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBG3C6X016907 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:03:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:03:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <918696211.20031211100333@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I've never knit on five needles, only four. Sorry, but four needles suck. Knitting with five is like knitting with two. > This afternoon the > stitch'n'bitch is at my house. Yeh! I like that we meet in a public place. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 10:14:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBGEeBp031837 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:14:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7702B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:12:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 661637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:12:07 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBGC7d12829 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:12:07 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPQ00HGINNG27@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:07:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:07:24 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <26ecbe2722bf.2722bf26ecbe@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't think you're ADD at all. Why not? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 10:34:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBGYZBp032142 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:34:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214D3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 663548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:32:06 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBGV0d17290 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:31:00 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBGUwAr010397 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:30:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211113037.00bc1c80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:31:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <200312111550.hBBFoVd07885@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But Silver Queen, though a commercial variety, is very tasty also. >clo Indeed. There were a number of years when someone was selling Silver Queen on the roadside in Tennessee. Very tasty. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 10:41:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBGfuBp032234 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:41:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7712E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:39:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 664318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:39:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBGdTd18952 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:39:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBGcaKX004538 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:38:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:39:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <544866577.20031211103949@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211113037.00bc1c80@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211113037.00bc1c80@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>But Silver Queen, though a commercial variety, is very tasty also. >>clo > Indeed. There were a number of years when someone was selling Silver Queen > on the roadside in Tennessee. Very tasty. I know I've seen it in stores, but I don't remember if it was here or in CA. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHDcBp000370 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:13:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77270@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 667569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHBAd26467 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBHB9Ar017449 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211121019.00bb77e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <918696211.20031211100333@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've never knit on five needles, only four. > >Sorry, but four needles suck. Knitting with five is like knitting with >two. That's nuts. What possible difference could the fifth needle make except to enlarge the circle in which one knits? > > This afternoon the > > stitch'n'bitch is at my house. Yeh! > >I like that we meet in a public place. >Karen Why? I think people's homes is much more cozy. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:17:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHHVBp000434 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:17:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77294@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:15:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 667861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:15:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHF3d27104 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:15:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00214E9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111715.hBBHF3d27104@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:15:03 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:39:49 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>But Silver Queen, though a commercial variety, is very tasty also. >>>clo > >> Indeed. There were a number of years when someone was selling Silver Queen >> on the roadside in Tennessee. Very tasty. > >I know I've seen it in stores, but I don't remember if it was here or >in CA. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Different kinds of corn have different length growing seasons; Silver Queen and Silver King are two of the longest outside of field corn for silage. Commercial "corn on the cob" growers go for short growing times and high sugar content, because the sugars break down after picking; more sugar = longer time in the store before it becomes completely boring. Field corn, btw, has a higher protein content. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find Silver Queen, which ripens from late Aug through Sept, in stores at all. Growers are anxious to be first to get into the stores, and count on refrigeration rather than staggered growing seasons to lengthen selling times. Same with apples. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:21:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHLWBp000478 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:21:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A772AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:19:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:19:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHJ5d27770 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:19:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214EC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:19:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111719.hBBHJ5d27770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:19:05 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:36 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> > I've never knit on five needles, only four. >> >>Sorry, but four needles suck. Knitting with five is like knitting with >>two. > >That's nuts. What possible difference could the fifth needle make except >to enlarge the circle in which one knits? LOL! It doesn't enlarge the circle at all; but it changes the configuration from triangular (on three needles with one to knit onto) to squarish (with 4+1), making it easier for fingers to get inside the opening. >> > This afternoon the >> > stitch'n'bitch is at my house. Yeh! >> >>I like that we meet in a public place. >>Karen > >Why? I think people's homes is much more cozy. > > >bonnie It opens up the possibility of walk-by interest, makes it easier for some newbies to find, and lessens the anxiety of those who fear their homes are less . clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:25:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHP9Bp000512 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:25:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A772DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:22:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:22:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHMfd28422 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:22:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBHLjKX019537 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:21:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:22:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <662185614.20031211112257@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211121019.00bb77e8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312102236.hBAMa8V14427@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211082839.00bab9f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211121019.00bb77e8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > I've never knit on five needles, only four. >> >>Sorry, but four needles suck. Knitting with five is like knitting with >>two. > That's nuts. What possible difference could the fifth needle make except > to enlarge the circle in which one knits? That's the point--for me, anyway. I find that I don't drop stitches or make ladders with 5 needles. I'm toying with the idea of buying a 12" circular. Let me see if I can find an Elizabeth Zimmermann quote on using 5 needles. >> > This afternoon the >> > stitch'n'bitch is at my house. Yeh! >> >>I like that we meet in a public place. >>Karen > Why? I think people's homes is much more cozy. This way, you don't have to worry about providing food and/or drink, and you get to do some proselytizing. (Actually, I just read Carolyn's explanation, and hers is spot on.) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:26:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHQTBp000546 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:26:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A772E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHO1d28667 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBHNw6X015327 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:24:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:24:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <446886716.20031211112419@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <200312111715.hBBHF3d27104@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312111715.hBBHF3d27104@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It's becoming increasingly difficult to find Silver Queen, which ripens > from late Aug through Sept, in stores at all. That explains the signs I've seen touting that one variety, then. > Growers are anxious to be first to get into the stores, and count on > refrigeration rather than staggered growing seasons to lengthen > selling times. Same with apples. Apples have become far more internationalized than they used to be. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:29:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHT0Bp000599 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:29:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77300@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:26:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:26:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHQWd29045 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:26:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBHPaKX023485 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:25:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:26:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <862844399.20031211112649@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312111719.hBBHJ5d27770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312111719.hBBHJ5d27770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > LOL! It doesn't enlarge the circle at all; but it changes the configuration > from triangular (on three needles with one to knit onto) to squarish > (with 4+1), making it easier for fingers to get inside the opening. Well, there's more room in the opening; that's what I think she meant. Actually, I often use the opening to push most of the sock through when I'm working towards the end of the foot and on the toe. That would make it very cramped on 4 needles. > It opens up the possibility of walk-by interest, makes it easier for > some newbies to find, and lessens the anxiety of those who fear their > homes are less . Yeppers. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:38:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHciBp000716 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:38:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214F52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:36:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 668835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:36:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHQHd29018 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:26:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBHP1Ii026760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:25:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:26:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <200312111340.hBBDe6V13360@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312111340.hBBDe6V13360@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>What kind of field corn did you grow, for Pete's sake? Our was always >>much more flavorful than the namby-pamby sweet corn that we also grew. I >>always preferred field corn. >> > >Err, we didn't grow it. Whatever it was, it was future silage. Did you steal it? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:40:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHeLBp000759 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:40:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7735B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:37:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 669030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:37:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHRrd29353 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:27:53 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBHQdIi027484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:26:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:27:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312111346.hBBDkmV14644@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312111346.hBBDkmV14644@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>>> What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? >> >>> >>> You're the teacher; you decide. >> >>Okay - I'll try to find the word in the OED. - but I really thought I >>could count on words-l. >> > >Fine, if you think it will give you more than "things which can be handled". >Wouldn't you rather invite Rita to discuss what items have been effective >as manipulables in her class? That seems more to the point. > Clo, I know what you think Ms are - I do not yet kow what Rita thinks they are. Before I ask about effectiveness, I need to know what they are! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 11:45:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBHj7Bp000841 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:45:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:42:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 670249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:42:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBHged31932 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:42:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00214F76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:42:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312111742.hBBHged31932@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:42:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:24:19 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> It's becoming increasingly difficult to find Silver Queen, which ripens >> from late Aug through Sept, in stores at all. > >That explains the signs I've seen touting that one variety, then. > >> Growers are anxious to be first to get into the stores, and count on >> refrigeration rather than staggered growing seasons to lengthen >> selling times. Same with apples. > >Apples have become far more internationalized than they used to be. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism True. But also, varieties that developed because they ripened at different times of year are now offered year round all at the same time - except that the flavor and texture have degraded during storage. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 12:07:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBI7hBp001111 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:07:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77452@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:05:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 672144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:05:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBI5Fd03311 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:05:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBI4LKX029979 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:04:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:05:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <76953513.20031211120533@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <200312111742.hBBHged31932@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312111742.hBBHged31932@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > True. But also, varieties that developed because they ripened at different > times of year are now offered year round all at the same time - except > that the flavor and texture have degraded during storage. Yes. But you can find good apples more of the year than you used to be able to. (One of my fond memories of Ithaca is all the different kinds of apples you can buy. I don't think I've ever lived anywhere that offered so many varieties.) Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 12:11:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBIBEBp001177 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77484@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 672584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:08:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBI8kd04189 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:08:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBI8feO028976 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:08:41 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBI8ea2028927; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:08:41 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031211100312.00b70458@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:03:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Adam's grandmother's obit In-Reply-To: <1416708117.20031211094112@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:41 AM 12/11/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Is at http://tinyurl.com/yrmw or > >http://www.legacy.com/masslive/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=1678609 > >I want to be her! "Mona's passion for dance spanned her life, >beginning with childhood recitals and culminating in performances in >her seventies, tap dancing with a local dance group." > >Whoever wrote this obituary really loved her. > >Karen That was very nice indeed. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 12:15:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBIF7Bp001240 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:15:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77485@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:12:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 672868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:12:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBICed04840 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:12:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBIBiKX006737 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:11:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:12:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13710578884.20031211121255@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Corn In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031210193805.04351df0@mail.istori.com> References: <1533092244.20031210145722@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210154557.00bc6b28@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031210193805.04351df0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > A quick interview with writer Michael Pollan about some of the problems > with corn overproduction in the US, and the some of the reasons it's hard > to switch (Christian Science Monitor, 2002-10-31): > http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1031/p17s01-lihc.html Thank you! I love Michael Pollan. "The great beneficiaries are the processors that are using corn domestically. We're subsidizing obesity. We're subsidizing the food-safety problems associated with feedlot beef. It's an absolutely irrational system. The people who worry about public health don't have any control over agricultural subsidies. The USDA is not thinking about public health." Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 13:08:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBJ8KBp002175 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:08:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77689@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 677813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:52 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBJ5qd16304 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:52 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:46 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7793F@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Field vs. sweet corn Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:55 AM > > >much more flavorful than the namby-pamby sweet corn that > we also grew. I > > >always preferred field corn. --Bethany > > > >Err, we didn't grow it. Whatever it was, it was future silage. > >clo > > To my horror, I have to agree with Bethany here. We too used > to snitch > field corn from the edges of farmers' fields. If you got it > when it was > just ripened, it was very tasty indeed. Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers forever referring to "pig corn," right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 13:42:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBJg4Bp002756 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 13:42:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77789@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:39:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 679951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:39:35 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBJTZd20864 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:29:35 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBJSJIi014072 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:28:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:29:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7793F@EXCHSRVR1> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7793F@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers forever referring to "pig >corn," right? I have never heard that expression - so, I don't know. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:01:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBK18Bp003104 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:01:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77838@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:58:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 682087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:58:40 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBJwcd26479 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:58:39 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:01:02 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-120-32.nb.no [158.39.120.32]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2RDM1; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:00:57 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031211205746.028d05b0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:58:18 +0100 Subject: Re: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:25 05.12.2003 -0500 skrev Paul Barfoot: >Seriously, if anyone is interested, here's the info: > >http://tinyurl.com/xwtt I would have loved to see and hear this! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBK5SBp003167 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77855@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:02:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 682362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:03:00 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBK2xd27051 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:02:59 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:05:23 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-120-32.nb.no [158.39.120.32]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2RDM0; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:05:12 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031211210142.028d01d8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:02:42 +0100 Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031206100512.00ab3e10@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20031206100512.00ab3e10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10:05 06.12.2003 -0800 skrev Betty: >At 06:46 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >>Now I will try to treat the cold I got from the sleet I walked through in >>Rana last Wednesday with a lot of red wine and try to get some sleep. Weather! >> >>Espen > >Wow! You know weather. Glad you are safe. Thank you - I seem to get the colds worse and worse. But tomorrow I fly to Hungary for two days of meetings - at a spa hotel near the Balaton lake, so I might get cured. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:05:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBK5nBp003170 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:05:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77862@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:03:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 682407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:03:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBK3Kd27121 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:03:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBK2QKX021748 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:02:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:03:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <649193655.20031211140340@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031211205746.028d05b0@localhost> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031211205746.028d05b0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Espen Ore wrote: > 14:25 05.12.2003 -0500 skrev Paul Barfoot: >>Seriously, if anyone is interested, here's the info: >> >>http://tinyurl.com/xwtt > I would have loved to see and hear this! It's not too late! It won't happen till the end of April. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKZbBp003621 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:35:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021551F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:33:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 684830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:33:08 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKX8d00404 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:33:08 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:33:02 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77943@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Field vs. sweet corn Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:33:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:30 PM > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers forever > referring to "pig > >corn," right? > > I have never heard that expression - so, I don't know. Both sides of my family were farmers (my parents were the first non-farmers) and my grandfathers and great-grandfathers (I knew six of my eight great-grandfathers until I was about seven) referred to "pig corn", "sweet corn", and "maize". I'm guessing by talking about "field corn", you're talking about the corn grown for farm animals, picked via a corn picker, then stored in a silo? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:36:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKakBp003654 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:36:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7795B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 684919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:18 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKYHd00596 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:17 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.185.23e0bdd7 (4246) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <185.23e0bdd7.2d0a2ebc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:04 EST Subject: Re: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/11/2003 1:58:54 PM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >I would have loved to see and hear this! > >Espen > So would I have; unfortunately I'm not living in the neighborhood. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:41:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKfaBp003716 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:41:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A779A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:39:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 685309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:39:07 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKd6d01196 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:39:07 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.f5.3552a249 (4246) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:38:47 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:38:47 EST Subject: Re: two feet of snow To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/11/2003 2:03:14 PM, Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: >I seem to get the colds worse and worse. I seem to be immune to them. Lucky me, huh? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:45:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKjqBp003777 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:45:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A779B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:43:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 685686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:43:23 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKhNd01997 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:43:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211204318.BZAG1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:43:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:43:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Paraffin Thingies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wmart has only large and expensive ones -- the kind that will hold feet as well as hands. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:54:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKs9Bp003879 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:54:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77A08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 686470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKped03938 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002155CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312112051.hBBKped03938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:33:02 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:30 PM > >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> >> >Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers forever >> referring to "pig >> >corn," right? >> >> I have never heard that expression - so, I don't know. > >Both sides of my family were farmers (my parents were the first non- farmers) >and my grandfathers and great-grandfathers (I knew six of my eight >great-grandfathers until I was about seven) referred to "pig corn", "sweet >corn", and "maize". > > >I'm guessing by talking about "field corn", you're talking about the corn >grown for farm animals, picked via a corn picker, then stored in a silo? Yes, what we also called "cow corn" - but tell me abt maize! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:54:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKsNBp003885 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:54:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77A09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 686484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKpsd04048 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:51:54 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBKpq2f022245 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:51:53 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBBKppJC022199; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:51:52 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031211124632.00b8f8f8@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:46:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: two feet of snow In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031211210142.028d01d8@localhost> References: <4.2.2.20031206100512.00ab3e10@uclink.berkeley.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <7356a1738220.7382207356a1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20031206100512.00ab3e10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:02 PM 12/11/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >10:05 06.12.2003 -0800 skrev Betty: > >At 06:46 PM 12/6/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: > >>Now I will try to treat the cold I got from the sleet I walked through in > >>Rana last Wednesday with a lot of red wine and try to get some sleep. > Weather! > >> > >>Espen > > > >Wow! You know weather. Glad you are safe. > >Thank you - I seem to get the colds worse and worse. But tomorrow I fly to >Hungary for two days of meetings - at a spa hotel near the Balaton lake, >so I might get cured. You have to at least try. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 14:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBKslBp003899 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:54:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002155A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:52:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 686504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:52:19 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBKqJd04175 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:52:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002155D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:52:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200312112052.hBBKqJd04175@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:52:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:43:16 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Wmart has only large and expensive ones -- the kind that will hold feet >as well as hands. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Never mind, Natalie - it's too early for the post-Christmas sales anyway. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:15:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLFWBp004310 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:15:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00215662@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:13:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 687768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:13:03 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLD1d07242 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:13:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBLD0Ar055200 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:13:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211160854.026463b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:12:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312111719.hBBHJ5d27770@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It opens up the possibility of walk-by interest, makes it easier for >some newbies to find, and lessens the anxiety of those who fear their > homes are less . >clo I see. Our stitch'n'bitch is by invitation only. If we held it in a public space in this small town, people could not speak openly for fear of being overhead and ending up as the gossip-of-the-week. Because our stitch'n'bitch is made up of mostly Inn owners, they are used to their houses being open to the public. On the other hand, only one of the present five members actually hosts her turn in the Inn. We just made an agreement today to spend no more than 20 minutes cleaning a house before s'n'b and we moved it from one o'clock in the afternoon to nine o'clock in the morning so that we can spend more than two or three hours together if we so wish. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLI3Bp004387 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:18:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021567C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:15:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:15:34 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLFYd07720 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:15:34 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBBLFTAr055559 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:15:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211161515.02647fc0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:15:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7793F@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers forever referring to "pig >corn," right? Right you are, Phil. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLMHBp004437 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:22:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77ABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:19:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:19:48 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLJmd08407 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:19:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211211943.KDPW1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD8DF70.2040700@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:19:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312112052.hBBKqJd04175@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312112052.hBBKqJd04175@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Wmart has only large and expensive ones -- the kind that will hold feet >>as well as hands. >>-- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Never mind, Natalie - it's too early for the post-Christmas sales anyway. ? I'm not interested in post-xmas sales. I'm interested in acquiring one of these devices right now. I got excited at the thought that I might be able to find one locally. But I don't really want a big $40 one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and order it from drugstore.com. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:23:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLNoBp004468 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:23:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002156AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:21:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:21:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLLLd08791 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:21:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBLLJrm019971 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:21:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:21:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <216922956.20031211152142@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211160854.026463b8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211160854.026463b8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I see. Our stitch'n'bitch is by invitation only. I really do hate that term. > If we held it in a public space in this small town, people could not > speak openly for fear of being overhead and ending up as the > gossip-of-the-week. We don't have problems with being overheard. Very few people sit near us, and we speak quietly when we are gossipping. But this is also an evening event, which is different. The Friday afternoon event is much smaller, and we have been concerned about being overheard. > We just made an agreement today to spend no more than 20 minutes > cleaning a house before s'n'b and we moved it from one o'clock in > the afternoon to nine o'clock in the morning so that we can spend > more than two or three hours together if we so wish. Sensible rules. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:25:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLP4Bp004480 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:25:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77AF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:22:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:22:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLMZd08990 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:22:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBLMYrm021637 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:22:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:22:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <117102337.20031211152252@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <3FD8DF70.2040700@maynor.net> References: <200312112052.hBBKqJd04175@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8DF70.2040700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > ? I'm not interested in post-xmas sales. I'm interested in acquiring > one of these devices right now. I got excited at the thought that I > might be able to find one locally. But I don't really want a big $40 > one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and order it from > drugstore.com. Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:26:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLQBBp004519 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:26:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77AF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:23:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:23:42 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLNfd09223 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:23:41 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPR00A5G239JH@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:19:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:19:21 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <27e0e627a7b2.27a7b227e0e6@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and order it from > > drugstore.com. > > Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. Just order it from drugstore.com and be done with it. It wasn't expensive. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:30:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLU5Bp004607 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:30:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77AF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:27:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 688825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:27:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLRad09863 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:27:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBLRZ6X023144 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:27:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:27:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <505717624.20031211152757@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <27e0e627a7b2.27a7b227e0e6@optonline.net> References: <27e0e627a7b2.27a7b227e0e6@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and order it from >> > drugstore.com. >> >> Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. > Just order it from drugstore.com and be done with it. It wasn't expensive. Shipping will be, though. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:50:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLorBp004939 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:50:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77BB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:48:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 690426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:48:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLmNd13961 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:48:23 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:48:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77944@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:48:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:28 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > > On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > >> > one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and > order it from > >> > drugstore.com. > >> > >> Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. > > > Just order it from drugstore.com and be done with it. It > wasn't expensive. > > Shipping will be, though. If you don't mind me kibitzing.... Froogle found these results: http://tinyurl.com/yu07 at $139, the next $159, etc. Also, if you look at some of the naming, there's "Therabath Pro" as well, but I don't know the differences. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:53:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLrcBp005002 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:53:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77BE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:51:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 690889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:51:09 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLp9d15085 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:51:09 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:51:03 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77945@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:51:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Phil Paxton > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:48 PM > If you don't mind me kibitzing.... > Froogle found these results: http://tinyurl.com/yu07 at > $139, the next $159, etc. > Also, if you look at some of the naming, there's "Therabath > Pro" as well, but I don't know the differences. Oh, and I just started looking at some of the links on the right-hand side in the Froogle window - lower prices & more info. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 15:56:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBLuGBp005030 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:56:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00215766@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:53:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 691127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:53:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBLrbd15694 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:53:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBBLrW6X021293 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:53:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:53:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1358170617.20031211155355@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77945@EXCHSRVR1> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77945@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Phil Paxton >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:48 PM >> If you don't mind me kibitzing.... >> Froogle found these results: http://tinyurl.com/yu07 at >> $139, the next $159, etc. >> Also, if you look at some of the naming, there's "Therabath >> Pro" as well, but I don't know the differences. > Oh, and I just started looking at some of the links on the right-hand side > in the Froogle window - lower prices & more info. All she wants is one for her hands--those run about $20. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:18:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMIgBp005494 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:18:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77D1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:16:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:16:13 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBMGCd19774 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:16:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211221607.WHEI1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:16:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD8ECA9.1080401@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:16:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312112052.hBBKqJd04175@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8DF70.2040700@maynor.net> <117102337.20031211152252@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <117102337.20031211152252@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. I tried there a little while ago. They had the same kind as Wmart -- the big ones. It has occurred to me that I might be better off going on and buying one of those big ones, though, since they also sell the refills. If I order an odd one from somewhere, I might have a problem with refills. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:20:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMKCBp005529 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:20:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77D10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:17:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 693989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:17:43 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBMHcd19882 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:17:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211221732.WHVL1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:17:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD8ECFE.7050008@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:17:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77944@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77944@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Froogle found these results: http://tinyurl.com/yu07 at $139, the next > $159, etc. I wonder why these are so expensive -- like what they do that the $40 ones at Wmart don't do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:29:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMTZBp005683 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:29:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77D73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:27:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:27:05 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBMR5d21155 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:27:05 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:26:58 PST Message-ID: <20031211222658.8609.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7793F@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers > forever referring to "pig > corn," right? I think, in the old country (Pennsylvania)we called it Indian corn. (?) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:30:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMUPBp005714 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:30:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A77D6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:27:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:27:56 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBMRud21249 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:27:56 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:27:50 PST Message-ID: <20031211222750.51257.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:27:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031211205746.028d05b0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > 14:25 05.12.2003 -0500 skrev Paul Barfoot: > >Seriously, if anyone is interested, here's the > info: > > > >http://tinyurl.com/xwtt > > I would have loved to see and hear this! > > Espen It's certainly not too late to make plans! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:31:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMVtBp005725 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:31:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002158F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:29:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:29:26 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBMTQd21479 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:29:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:29:19 PST Message-ID: <20031211222919.70316.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:29:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Magic Flute in April in Syracuse To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <185.23e0bdd7.2d0a2ebc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/2003 1:58:54 PM, > Espen.Ore@NB.NO writes: > > >I would have loved to see and hear this! > > > >Espen > > > So would I have; unfortunately I'm not living in the > neighborhood. > Theo Theo, if you leave right after Christmas, you might make it... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:35:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMZTBp005825 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:35:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A77D8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:32:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 694876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:32:59 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBMWxd21874 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:32:59 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:32:53 PST Message-ID: <20031211223253.99986.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:32:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <505717624.20031211152757@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > >> Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to > try there. Try CVS or Rite-Aid. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 16:53:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBMrTBp006039 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:53:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00215978@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:50:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 696232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:51:00 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBMoxd24979 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:50:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031211225044.EKLI1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:50:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD8F4C6.4040308@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:50:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <20031211223253.99986.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031211223253.99986.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >>>>Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to >> >>try there. > > Try CVS or Rite-Aid. We aren't that drugstore rich. It created major excitement a year or so ago when Walgreens came to town. I did enjoy going in there this afternoon since I've been there only a couple of times before. I was surprised to see that it even has food -- as in milk and frozen foods and stuff. I don't remember having noticed that in my earlier visits. I love full-fledged drugstores of that kind. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 17:28:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBNStBp006577 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:28:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A77ECE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:26:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:26:25 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBNQPd28636 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:26:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBNQK6t013025 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:26:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:24:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>>What are manipulatives? Do my 372 students need them? >>> >>> >>They probably have them already, in the form of pens, hair to twirl, >>watches or rings to fiddle with, notebooks to doodle in, etc. >> > > Then why does Rita have to hand her students pens, hair to twirl, etc. I don't. I tend to use small toys like koosh balls, beanbags, silly putty, etc. My students are in high school; your students are in college. I presume there's a difference there. My job (in part) is to help students with learning disabilities develop strategies that enable them succeed in school. If I've done my job, their disabilities should be invisible to you. This really isn't something you would have any need to worry about. Things like IEP meetings, psychiatric evaluations, parent conferences, team meetings, etc. are not a part of your professional world just as publish or perish is a not a part of mine. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 17:45:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBBNjSBp006841 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:45:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00215A83@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 698836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:42:57 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBNgud30505 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00215AB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312112342.hBBNgud30505@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:26:58 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers >> forever referring to "pig >> corn," right? > >I think, in the old country (Pennsylvania)we called it >Indian corn. (?) > > I think not. Indian corn is a tricolored corn grown primarily for decoration. It's closer to popcorn than anything else, afik. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 18:43:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC0h3Bp007835 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:43:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00215B81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:40:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:40:33 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC0eWd06203 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:40:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212004027.FXMZ1936.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:40:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD90E7D.5020206@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:40:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What ever happened with your football-player student who was considering coming to MSU, Rita? Is he a senior this year? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 19:02:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC12SBp008079 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:02:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78051@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:59:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 701954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:59:58 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC0xvd08774 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:59:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC0xv9B022686 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:59:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FD912B0.4030905@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:58:24 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> <3FD90E7D.5020206@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > What ever happened with your football-player student who was considering > coming to MSU, Rita? Is he a senior this year? No, he's behind credits. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 19:15:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC1FiBp008280 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:15:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A78084@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:13:14 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC1DEd09793 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:13:14 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC1DDrW019857 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:13:13 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC1DDiN029631 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:13:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:15:11 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <880584078.1071173711@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> References: <200312102058.hBAKwjx29854@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD7A17D.6010303@swbell.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:43 PM -0600 Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't find that surprising. I often give manipulatives to > students who are very distractable -- doing something with > their hands keeps them focused. > This has helped William in the past, a ball of clay would help him sit still during circle times and pay attention. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 19:18:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC1ILBp008312 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:18:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7808D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:15:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:15:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC15od09275 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:05:50 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC14ZIi013158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:04:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:05:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77943@EXCHSRVR1> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77943@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >I'm guessing by talking about "field corn", you're talking about the corn >grown for farm animals, picked via a corn picker, then stored in a silo? All I really know is that it had much more flavor and body than sweet corn. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 19:24:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC1OjBp008390 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:24:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7809B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:22:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:22:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC1CEd09734 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:12:14 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC1AxIi014766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:10:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:12:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What I am really trying to find out is whether is now a term of art - or one you made up. Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 19:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC1ZcBp008520 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:35:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A780B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:33:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 702949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:33:07 -0500 Received: from omr4.verisignmail.com (omrnat1.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC1X7d11062 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:33:07 -0500 Received: from ms4.verisignmail.com (IDENT:mirapoint@[216.168.230.177]) by omr4.verisignmail.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC1XxFV007740 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by ms4.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id AWM76643; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:30:22 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3FD88D8E.17635.163A23D@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 11 Dec 2003 at 20:12, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > What I am really trying to find out is whether is now a > term of art - or one you made up. One Google search is worth a thousand obtuse queries. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 19:51:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC1pBBp008725 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:51:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00215C38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 703378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:48:39 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC1mdd12258 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:48:39 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC1mdrW020770 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:48:39 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC1mdiN002220 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:48:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:50:36 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Wmart has only large and expensive ones -- the kind that will hold feet > as well as hands. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) As a cracked hand sufferer as my father before me, I was interested in these and finding myself at Wmart found this one: HoMedics ParaSpaPlus Heat Therapy Paraffin Bath PAR-70 for $19.99. It can also be found at drugstore.com I bought it for my Dad and felt the larger size might work better for him. I think I'll put this on my Christmas list as well. I've used most recommended hand creams including bag balm. I prefer things that don't have that greasy shiny look. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 20:14:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC2EqBp009050 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:14:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00215CBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:12:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 704189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:12:21 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC2CLd14062 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:12:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212021215.LLAX1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:12:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:12:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > I've used most recommended hand creams including bag balm. I prefer things > that don't have that greasy shiny look. You're too young to have hand cracks! Mine didn't start until I was fifty or so. But re hand creams, I did buy one today that I think may help more than most do. It was funny that there was a display at Wmart when I was there looking at paraffin thingies of some kind of cream with a test-tube -- hmm, that sounds weird -- I mean one tube of it available for squirting upon yourself to test it. So I did. I realized by the time I finished shopping that I liked it, so I went back and tossed a tube of it into the buggy. Lemme go look at its name. ... It's Gold Bond Ultimate Healing Skin Therapy Lotion. I loved tonight's Survivor. Can't wait for Sunday to get here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 20:34:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC2YfBp009349 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:34:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7814E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 704746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBC2WAd15383 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:32:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:32:04 PST Message-ID: <20031212023204.35815.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:32:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312112342.hBBNgud30505@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >I think, in the old country (Pennsylvania)we called > it > >Indian corn. (?) > > > > > > I think not. Indian corn is a tricolored corn grown > primarily for > decoration. It's closer to popcorn than anything > else, afik. Yes, you're right. I don't think it is for huuman consumption in its pristine form. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 20:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC2nsBp009603 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:49:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78271@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 707526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:47:22 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC2lMd20626 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:47:22 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC2lMrW022233 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:47:22 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBC2lMiN010540 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:47:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:49:19 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You're too young to have hand cracks! Mine didn't start until I was > fifty or so. I think it is more skin type and lifestyle than age. I do put lotion on every time I wash my hands. > ... > It's Gold Bond Ultimate Healing Skin Therapy Lotion. > I'm not sure I've used that particular one, but Gold Bond didn't help. I was told the absolute best was to rub Crisco on my hands and then put cotton gloves on and go to bed. I haven't been quite desperate enough to do this. > I loved tonight's Survivor. Can't wait for Sunday to get here. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I have yet to watch this show, with no regrets. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 21:06:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC36VBp009852 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:06:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A782A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:03:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 707986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:03:59 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC33xd21900 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:03:59 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-97.gwi.net [216.195.151.97]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBC33vGn076089 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:03:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:03:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've used most recommended hand creams including bag balm. I prefer things >that don't have that greasy shiny look. --Terry I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had cracked hands. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 21:12:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC3CSBp009911 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:12:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A782B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:09:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:09:14 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC39Ed22413 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:09:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-146.gwi.net [216.195.152.146]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBC39CGn077529 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:09:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:09:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> References: <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>I loved tonight's Survivor. Can't wait for Sunday to get here. >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >I have yet to watch this show, with no regrets. >Terry Of course not. How could you have regrets when you don't know what you are missing? I also loved tonight's show. I have formulated two possible scenarios for the final four, depending on who wins immunity in the next challenge. But in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux dead Grandma doesn't make it to the final two. Also, interestingly, the supposed leak about who was going to be the Ultimate Survivor involves someone who is still alive on the show. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 21:23:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC3NuBp010060 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:23:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A782D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:21:24 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC3LOd23238 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:21:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212032119.QPVK1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:21:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD93430.8010106@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:21:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > I'm not sure I've used that particular one, but Gold Bond didn't help. I I'm still feeling good about this Gold Bond I bought today. It's probably not going to be a real answer, and this may be my imagination, but it seems that one of the gaping holes in a finger is less gaping after the application of this stuff. > was told the absolute best was to rub Crisco on my hands and then put > cotton gloves on and go to bed. I haven't been quite desperate enough to > do this. No, I don't think I would want to wear gloves to bed, Crisco-laden or otherwise. At times I've thought that olive oil might help some, though. It's not that I've ever applied olive oil to my hands with that intent. But when I fry an egg, I put olive oil in the little skillet and then rub it around with my hand. I think that might do good things to the hand. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 21:24:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC3OYBp010065 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:24:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A782BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:22:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:22:02 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC3M2d23296 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:22:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212032157.QQCL1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:21:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD93456.60504@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:21:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had > cracked hands. Must be that catbird seat you're sitting in! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 21:38:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC3cMBp010222 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:38:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A782EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:35:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:35:51 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC3Zpd24133 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:35:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.144.210]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212033546.UDLJ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:35:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD93793.2060703@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:35:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: SURVIVOR (was: Re: Paraffin Thingies) References: <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I also loved tonight's show. I have formulated two possible scenarios for > the final four, depending on who wins immunity in the next challenge. But > in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux dead Grandma > doesn't make it to the final two. Also, interestingly, the supposed leak > about who was going to be the Ultimate Survivor involves someone who is > still alive on the show. The only way Lying Jon will be with us another week (or I guess I shouldn't talk in weeks since we're about to zoom to a less-than-a-week conclusion) is if he wins immunity. I really don't think he's going to make it to the final two, unless something quite strange happens. Hmm. He might win immunity and thus get to the final three, and surely he would be seen as an easy loser for the person who gets to choose the final two-er. So I guess he might make it. I dunno. It's an interesting group. I don't suppose you're going to tell us about the leak. I don't know that I want to know. I'm pulling for Darrah, and it's not because she's from Mississippi. It's because I don't like the other three. Jon is obviously a sleaze-bag. Sandra has annoyed me in many ways since day one, and I really, really thought it was tacky of her to talk about hiding their equipment so they would suffer if she were voted off. And Boyscout Lil has not captured my support at any point. So that leaves quiet Darrah, the Mississippi redneck with her mortuary degree from Whatchamacallit Junior College. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 21:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC3fXBp010242 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:41:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A78301@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:39:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 708955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:39:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:n88WTJZt3mTyjZ7QOMLIyR744N12TxGm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC3d1d24622 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:39:01 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9D530585 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:39:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D62223830 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:39:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> References: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:38:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I also loved tonight's show. I have formulated two possible scenarios for >the final four, depending on who wins immunity in the next challenge. But >in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux dead Grandma >doesn't make it to the final two. Also, interestingly, the supposed leak >about who was going to be the Ultimate Survivor involves someone who is >still alive on the show. > > >bonnie The only question in my mind is: who will Johnny Fairplay decide to take the final three? (And believe or not, I thought that even before your time-zone spoiler about JF.) It boggles my mind that the on-island survivors continue to trust JF, who is transparently a lying weasel. On the other hand, maybe they're just saying that in their confessionals because they don't want to admit to the camera that they're hoping to sit next to JF during the jury vote, assuming that that will significantly increase their chances of taking the prize. If so, they may again be making a mistake. If I were JF and I made it into the F2, I would play the "I played the game" card over and over, and it just might work for him; while we as viewers know just what a scumbag he is, the jury hasn't seen what we've seen, and JF is nothing if not a master actor, a man who can, as the old Hollywood joke goes, fake sincerity convincingly. Ken Miller Richard Hatch School of Social Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 22:17:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC4HPBp010770 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:17:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A785C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:14:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 714739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:14:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC4Eqd29997 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:14:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBC4Eprm027036 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:14:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:15:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15610278800.20031211221508@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > I was told the absolute best was to rub Crisco on my hands and then put > cotton gloves on and go to bed. I haven't been quite desperate enough to > do this. I think the paraffin thing is a much better solution! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 22:17:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC4HtBp010776 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:17:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A785D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:15:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 714789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:15:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC4FMd30083 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:15:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBC4EQKX020018 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:14:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:15:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <162205041.20031211221537@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had > cracked hands. You don't have dry skin, either, do you? Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 22:18:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC4IsBp010783 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:18:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A785B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:16:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 714803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:16:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC4GMd30169 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:16:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBC4GLrm028650 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:16:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:16:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <39690931.20031211221638@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I also loved tonight's show. I have formulated two possible scenarios for > the final four, depending on who wins immunity in the next challenge. But > in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux dead Grandma > doesn't make it to the final two. Oh, I would definitely take him with me to the final 2. No one would vote for him! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 11 23:52:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC5qmBp012033 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:52:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7885A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 0:50:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 719982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:50:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC5oFd06515 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:50:15 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.18e.238c9391 (4116) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:50:03 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <18e.238c9391.2d0ab10a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:50:02 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:27:32 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > I don't. I tend to use small toys like koosh balls, >beanbags, silly putty, etc. > I can't believe this is going on in class. I know I preferred to pay attention, because if I didn't, I'd fail my tests, and find a bad mark on my report card, and I'd get serious complaints at home. :-{ Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 00:07:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC66xBp012267 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:07:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A788D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 1:04:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 720606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:04:27 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC64Qd08019 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:04:27 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.1ab.1e1b2b94 (4116) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:04:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <1ab.1e1b2b94.2d0ab45e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:04:14 EST Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/11/2003 2:33:19 PM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: Both sides of my family were farmers (my parents were the first non-farmers) and my grandfathers and great-grandfathers (I knew six of my eight great-grandfathers until I was about seven) referred to "pig corn", "sweetcorn", and "maize". ------------ Maizena is what the dutch call the baking cornstarch for cooking, baking, and thickening dishes. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 00:32:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC6WABp012817 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:32:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7890C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 1:19:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 720798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:19:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC6Jad08758 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:19:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.181.247cfa97 (4116) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:19:25 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <181.247cfa97.2d0ab7ed@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:19:25 EST Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/11/2003 8:47:47 PM, twild@URI.EDU writes: >I think it is more skin type and lifestyle than age. I do put lotion on >every time I wash my hands. > Guess I'm pretty fortunate. Never use skin cream, and have no problems at all. Perhaps coming from a country as wet as the Netherlands did it; because I don't have an oily skin either! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 00:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC6bEBp012868 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:37:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7896A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 1:34:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 721729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:34:41 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC6Yfd10072 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:34:41 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.82.11f1d89 (4116) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:34:33 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <82.11f1d89.2d0abb79@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:34:33 EST Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/11/2003 8:47:47 PM, twild@URI.EDU writes: >I have yet to watch this show, with no regrets. > >Terry > Don't feel bad; you're not the only one without regrets. You don't really need to watch it, since you find out all about it on the list anyway! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 01:58:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBC7wiBp013842 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:58:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78A96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 2:30:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 724433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 02:30:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBC7UMd15589 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 02:30:22 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBC7ULkF009476 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:30:21 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBC7UKSu009474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:30:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:30:20 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031212073020.GA9444@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <18e.238c9391.2d0ab10a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18e.238c9391.2d0ab10a@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof: = In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:27:32 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: = = > I don't. I tend to use small toys like koosh balls, = >beanbags, silly putty, etc. = > = I can't believe this is going on in class. I know I preferred to pay = attention, because if I didn't, I'd fail my tests, and find a bad mark on my report = card, and I'd get serious complaints at home. :-{ = Theo Theo, You just don't get it! Haven't you been following the conversation at all? Rita is helping these kids get better marks by putting something into their hands. They don't know how to cope with being distracted and having to pay attention. So that is part of what Rita is teaching them. With math, you can do all kinds of lesson based things with manipulatives because you can measure them, or they fit together like a tangram. I like to think of this as science without the mess. With English class it's a little harder, which is why the toys. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 05:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCBtrBp016782 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:55:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00216704@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 6:53:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:53:18 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCBrHd31501 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:53:17 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCBrFCo021655 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:53:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:51:52 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > What I am really trying to find out is whether is now a > term of art - or one you made up. LOL. Of course I didn't make it up. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 06:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCCMhBp017127 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:22:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021672C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 7:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:20:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCCA8d18817 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:10:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCC8qIi004131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:08:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:10:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> Message-ID: References: <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >I'm not sure I've used that particular one, but Gold Bond didn't help. I >was told the absolute best was to rub Crisco on my hands and then put >cotton gloves on and go to bed. I haven't been quite desperate enough to >do this. Get a No-Crack product, put that on at night, then put cotton gloves on. It will make a difference. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 06:30:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCCUIBp017220 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:30:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021677D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 7:27:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 730865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:27:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCCHYd19501 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:17:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCCGIIi005369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:16:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:17:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> What I am really trying to find out is whether is now a >> term of art - or one you made up. > > LOL. Of course I didn't make it up. Good. Now I will go to the OED. ("Of course"? I am certain that you are capable of making up words - and that you have done so.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 06:36:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCCa4Bp017290 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:36:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78DCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 7:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 731111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:33:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCCNTd20625 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:23:29 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCCMEIi006681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:22:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:23:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> What I am really trying to find out is whether is now a >> term of art - or one you made up. > > LOL. Of course I didn't make it up. Acc. to the OED, the noun is a post-WWII N. American Education term used in the study of arithmetic. So you may have assisted in extending its meaning. "B. n. N. Amer. Educ. In teaching or learning arithmetic: a physical object which may be manipulated to help demonstrate a concept or practise an operation." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:32:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDWYBp017932 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:32:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A78EE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:29:59 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCDTwd27022 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:29:59 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:29:53 PST Message-ID: <20031212132953.64794.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:29:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1ab.1e1b2b94.2d0ab45e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Maizena is what the dutch call the baking cornstarch > for cooking, baking, and > thickening dishes. Thank you, Theo. Good information. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:37:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDbdBp017969 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:37:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78EEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:35:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDZ3d27766 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:35:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00216888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:35:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121335.hBCDZ3d27766@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:35:03 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:50:36 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> Wmart has only large and expensive ones -- the kind that will hold feet >> as well as hands. >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > >As a cracked hand sufferer as my father before me, I was interested in >these and finding myself at Wmart found this one: HoMedics >ParaSpaPlus Heat Therapy Paraffin Bath PAR-70 for $19.99. It can also be >found at drugstore.com > I find it entirely appropriate that a woman Wordsler should buy something labeled "Ho" clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:45:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDjKBp018094 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:45:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A78F13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:42:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:42:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDgid28575 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:42:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002168E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:42:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:42:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:49:19 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >> You're too young to have hand cracks! Mine didn't start until I was >> fifty or so. > >I think it is more skin type and lifestyle than age. I do put lotion on >every time I wash my hands. > >> ... >> It's Gold Bond Ultimate Healing Skin Therapy Lotion. >> > >I'm not sure I've used that particular one, but Gold Bond didn't help. I >was told the absolute best was to rub Crisco on my hands and then put >cotton gloves on and go to bed. I haven't been quite desperate enough to >do this. > >> I loved tonight's Survivor. Can't wait for Sunday to get here. >> -- >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >I have yet to watch this show, with no regrets. > >Terry Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? clo, just curious From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:46:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDkQBp018110 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:46:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78F28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:43:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 734710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:50 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDhod28700 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:50 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-7.gwi.net [216.195.151.7]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCDhm57045983 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212083512.00b2fc38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SURVIVOR In-Reply-To: <3FD93793.2060703@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm pulling for Darrah, and it's not because she's from Mississippi. >It's because I don't like the other three. Jon is obviously a >sleaze-bag. Sandra has annoyed me in many ways since day one,- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) If Jon wins immunity, I think they will vote off Lil. If one of the women wins immunity, they will vote off Jon. The final immunity will be one of those endurance tests. I doubt that either Jon or Sandra or Lil will win that. Darrah will. She'll pick Sandra to go to the final two with her over Jon or Lil. Who the jury picks after that, I don't know. Certainly Sandra has made some enemies. But remember that no one knows that she was the one who threw away the fish after Rupert got voted off. There are lots of people from Sandra's original tribe who are on the jury. They might give her the million. Certainly Rupert and Christa would. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:50:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDoIBp018165 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:50:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78F49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:47:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 735021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:47:33 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDlXd29511 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:47:33 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-7.gwi.net [216.195.151.7]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCDlV57046785 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:47:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084555.00b72e40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:47:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Survivor In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It boggles my mind that the on-island survivors continue to trust JF, who >is transparently a lying weasel. >Ken Miller >Richard Hatch School of Social Studies But they don't trust him anymore. I could not believe that Burton looked into the camera in his final farewell and tells Lil that he hopes she can live with betraying their alliance. He had just written down Lil's name and betrayed her!!!! bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDpNBp018172 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:51:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78F50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:48:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 735096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:48:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDmld29641 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:48:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-7.gwi.net [216.195.151.7]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCDmjGn024257 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:48:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084752.00b64778@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:48:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <162205041.20031211221537@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had > > cracked hands. > >You don't have dry skin, either, do you? >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism "Either"? Isn't that we are talking about? No, I don't have dry skin anywhere on my body. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:57:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDv6Bp018281 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:57:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A78F72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:54:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 735439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:54:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDsUd30354 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:54:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCDsS57048164 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:54:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212085008.00b61680@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:50:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Survivor In-Reply-To: <39690931.20031211221638@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux dead Grandma > > doesn't make it to the final two. > >Oh, I would definitely take him with me to the final 2. No one would >vote for him! Karen, practicing fierce optimism Burton would vote for him. Lil might vote for him. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 07:58:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCDwWBp018307 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:58:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A78F70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 8:55:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 735560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:55:56 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCDtud30590 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:55:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCDtsGn024968 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:55:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212085523.00b5c2d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:55:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? >clo, just curious We have a whole-house humidifier on the furnace although I'm not sure just how well that works. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 08:07:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCE7KBp018487 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:07:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A78FCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 9:04:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 736143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:04:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCE4hd31740 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:04:43 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBCE4gkF009944 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:04:42 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBCE4fVH009942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:04:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:04:40 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031212140440.GA9934@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas: = >> What I am really trying to find out is whether is now a = >> term of art - or one you made up. = > = > LOL. Of course I didn't make it up. = = Acc. to the OED, the noun is a post-WWII N. American Education term = used in the study of arithmetic. So you may have assisted in extending = its meaning. = = "B. n. N. Amer. Educ. In teaching or learning arithmetic: a physical = object which may be manipulated to help demonstrate a concept or practise = an operation." = = Bethany No, it's been long extended. I see you haven't googled on it yet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 08:54:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCEsTBp019253 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:54:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79164@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 9:51:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 739038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:51:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCEfrd04758 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:41:53 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCEeaIi016441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:40:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:41:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031212140440.GA9934@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> <20031212140440.GA9934@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, steph wrote: >= Acc. to the OED, the noun is a post-WWII N. American Education term >= used in the study of arithmetic. So you may have assisted in extending >= its meaning. >= >= "B. n. N. Amer. Educ. In teaching or learning arithmetic: a physical >= object which may be manipulated to help demonstrate a concept or practise >= an operation." > >No, it's been long extended. I see you haven't googled on it >yet. Surely Rita has done her part! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 09:21:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCFLhBp019643 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:21:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:19:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 743173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:18:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCFIud11663 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:18:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCFHxKX027645 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:18:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:19:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1864815391.20031212091912@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: References: <200312110428.hBB4SsV17181@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FD8FCC2.50202@swbell.net> <3FD9ABD8.3010302@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Acc. to the OED, the noun is a post-WWII N. American Education term > used in the study of arithmetic. So you may have assisted in extending > its meaning. Or, like, its meaning may have changed! Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 09:34:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCFYeBp019818 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:34:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A793CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 744987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:32:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCFVxd15249 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:31:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCFV2KX012119 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:32:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1887908031.20031212093215@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? > clo, just curious My sister has a humidifier on her furnace and it didn't help. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 09:36:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCFaIBp019838 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:36:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00216DB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:33:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:33:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCFXfd15767 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:33:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCFXd6X011541 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:33:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:33:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <351864623.20031212093359@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084752.00b64778@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084752.00b64778@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had >> > cracked hands. >> >>You don't have dry skin, either, do you? >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > "Either"? Isn't that we are talking about? No. I have dry skin, but I don't have cracked fingers. > No, I don't have dry skin > anywhere on my body. Then your anecotal evidence is irrelevant to this discussion. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 09:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCFawBp019846 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:36:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A793E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:34:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 745266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:34:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCFYLd15888 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:34:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCFYJ6X012237 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:34:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:34:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <788639289.20031212093439@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212085008.00b61680@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212085008.00b61680@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> > in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux dead Grandma >> > doesn't make it to the final two. >> >>Oh, I would definitely take him with me to the final 2. No one would >>vote for him! Karen, practicing fierce optimism > Burton would vote for him. Lil might vote for him. Assuming she's on the jury. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 09:52:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCFqJBp020071 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:52:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7946A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 746362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCFncd18201 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:42 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77947@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hurray for Peter Jennings Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:BrandyKitt@AOL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:29 AM > I'm glad Peter Jennings felt free enough to expose ADM on his > show; it was a big sponsor of ABC's This Week. ADM used to be a major sponsor of Meet the Press. Also, perhaps Mr. Jennings is feeling he has a bit more liberty now that he's an American citizen. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:27:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGRlBp020552 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:27:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A795DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 749733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:10 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCGPAd23851 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:10 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPS008ZLIXXM7@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:20:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:20:51 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > >> > one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and order > it from > >> > drugstore.com. > >> > >> Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. > > > Just order it from drugstore.com and be done with it. It wasn't > expensive. > Shipping will be, though. $5.49. Is that expensive? I would gladly pay it and have it done with rather than drive around to every store where the thing very well might cost more anyway. If she can find it. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:28:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGSTBp020558 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:28:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A795EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 749805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:52 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCGPqd23959 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:52 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCGPo57073649 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212112510.00b5ea20@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <351864623.20031212093359@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084752.00b64778@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220303.00bb0378@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084752.00b64778@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > No, I don't have dry skin anywhere on my body. > >Then your anecotal evidence is irrelevant to this discussion. >Karen, practicing fierce optimism This discussion started with Natalie asking if anyone else had cracked fingers. My answer that I do not is certainly not irrelevant. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:36:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGaBBp020639 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:36:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79621@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:33:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 750328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:33:34 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCGXYd25101 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:33:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 13767 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 16:33:30 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-7.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 16:33:30 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B2CA67 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:33:30 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071246810!392983 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c3c0cd$ad628710$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> Importance: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:21 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > >From: Karen Kay >> On Thursday, December 11, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> >> > one. I want a little one. So I guess I'll go on and order >> it from >> >> > drugstore.com. >> >> >> >> Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to try there. >> >> > Just order it from drugstore.com and be done with it. It wasn't >> expensive. >> Shipping will be, though. > >$5.49. Is that expensive? I would gladly pay it and have it >done with rather than drive around to every store where the >thing very well might cost more anyway. If she can find it. > >Marie > The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is being held in the Photo department. Natalie, it is yours. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:38:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGc4Bp020656 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:38:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00216F85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:35:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 750388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:35:27 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCGZQd25286 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:35:26 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:35:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:35:11 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: anniversary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBCGc4Bp020656 Today is the 12th anniversary of the first US web site (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center) Happy Webday! (no it's not a middle-of-the-week cold) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:48:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGmEBp020835 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:48:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79657@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:45:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:45:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCGjbd26827 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:45:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCGjZ6X006987 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:45:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:45:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <161620103.20031212104553@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> References: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > $5.49. Is that expensive? I would gladly pay it and have it done > with rather than drive around to every store where the thing very > well might cost more anyway. If she can find it. True. I tend to do a lot of shopping by phone first, before I drive. I hate paying shipping; IME, it always costs more than buying the thing locally. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:49:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGnpBp020864 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79666@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:47:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCGlEd27173 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:47:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCGlDrm017243 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:47:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:47:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <36368237.20031212104733@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: anniversary In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Today is the 12th anniversary of the first US web site (Stanford > Linear Accelerator Center) Happy Webday! (no it's not a > middle-of-the-week cold) :) 1991 was certainly a halcyon year. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCGolBp020877 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:50:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79686@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:48:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 751296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:48:10 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCGmAd27334 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:48:10 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPS0081ZJZ7VF@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.73] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:43:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:43:20 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2cc42c2cb41c.2cb41c2cc42c@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is being > held in the > Photo department. > > Natalie, it is yours. How much? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:06:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCH6VBp021105 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:06:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002170A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 752931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCH3rd30395 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7794A@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:48 AM > >It boggles my mind that the on-island survivors continue to > trust JF, who > >is transparently a lying weasel. > >Ken Miller > >Richard Hatch School of Social Studies > > But they don't trust him anymore. I could not believe that > Burton looked > into the camera in his final farewell and tells Lil that he > hopes she can > live with betraying their alliance. He had just written down > Lil's name > and betrayed her!!!! Speaking of which, I missed the episode which was billed as having the worst contestant and having the immunity idol recalled. Can someone catch me up on this? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:10:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHAGBp021164 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:10:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79751@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:07:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:07:39 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCH7dd31177 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:07:39 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:07:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7794B@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:07:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > -----Original Message----- > From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:05 AM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting > > > Bethany K. Dumas: > = >> What I am really trying to find out is whether > is now a > = >> term of art - or one you made up. > = > > = > LOL. Of course I didn't make it up. > = > = Acc. to the OED, the noun is a post-WWII N. American Education term > = used in the study of arithmetic. So you may have assisted > in extending > = its meaning. > = > = "B. n. N. Amer. Educ. In teaching or learning arithmetic: a physical > = object which may be manipulated to help demonstrate a > concept or practise > = an operation." > = > = Bethany > > No, it's been long extended. I see you haven't googled on it > yet. Speaking of arithmetic, I've always been surprised there isn't anything at http://www.chisenbop.(edu,com,org) despite the fact there is a lot of material about chisenbop elsewhere. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:11:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHB0Bp021171 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:11:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217098@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCH8Md31277 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002170CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:22 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:32:15 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? >> clo, just curious > >My sister has a humidifier on her furnace and it didn't help. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Yes, that's why I specified "to rooms". We're finding that having a humidifier in our office has helped dry skin, sore throat, and fatigue problems. We've also added a teapot and bottled water to increase winter hydration. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:11:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHBSBp021175 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79745@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:41 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCH8fd31320 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 2814 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 17:08:39 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-2.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 17:08:39 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D329AAF for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:39 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071248919!392888 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:08:40 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c3c0d2$96d67c90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <2cc42c2cb41c.2cb41c2cc42c@optonline.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:43 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > >> The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is being >> held in the >> Photo department. >> >> Natalie, it is yours. > >How much? > 19.99 and Walmart carries the item too. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:12:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHC1Bp021180 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:12:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79764@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCH9Nd31404 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:23 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7794C@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:35 AM > On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > >> > in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux > dead Grandma > >> > doesn't make it to the final two. > >> > >>Oh, I would definitely take him with me to the final 2. No one would > >>vote for him! Karen, practicing fierce optimism > > > Burton would vote for him. Lil might vote for him. > > Assuming she's on the jury. The ladies finally showed they could play the men last night. They should have sent the men home sooner. The longer they waited, the greater the chance something would have gone wrong. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHCvBp021202 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:12:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7976D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:19 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHAJd31601 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002170CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:33:59 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>> > I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had >>> > cracked hands. >>> >>>You don't have dry skin, either, do you? >>>Karen, >>>practicing fierce optimism > >> "Either"? Isn't that we are talking about? > >No. I have dry skin, but I don't have cracked fingers. > >> No, I don't have dry skin >> anywhere on my body. > >Then your anecotal evidence is irrelevant to this discussion. > >Karen, >practicing fierce optimism Unless she has the magic key that prevents dry skin and cracked fingers? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHCvBq021202 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:12:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79753@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHAJd31603 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002170A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31603@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:10:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:32 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:BrandyKitt@AOL.COM] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:29 AM > >> I'm glad Peter Jennings felt free enough to expose ADM on his >> show; it was a big sponsor of ABC's This Week. > >ADM used to be a major sponsor of Meet the Press. > >Also, perhaps Mr. Jennings is feeling he has a bit more liberty now that >he's an American citizen. vain hope! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:17:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHHFBp021266 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:17:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79796@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:14:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:14:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHEbd32649 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:14:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCHDgKX016742 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:13:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:14:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <254947905.20031212111457@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:32:15 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? >>> clo, just curious >> >>My sister has a humidifier on her furnace and it didn't help. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > Yes, that's why I specified "to rooms". We're finding that having a > humidifier in our office has helped dry skin, sore throat, and fatigue > problems. We've also added a teapot and bottled water to increase winter > hydration. It helped my sister's dry skin in general, but she still cracked. This is possibly because of her job as a paramedic: she's constantly washing her hands. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:18:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHI7Bp021274 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:18:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7978D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:15:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:15:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHFSd00336 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:15:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCHFRrm022793 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:15:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:15:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <656854677.20031212111548@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:33:59 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>>On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>>> > I never used hand cream. I live in the frozen North. I've never had >>>> > cracked hands. >>>> >>>>You don't have dry skin, either, do you? >>>>Karen, >>>>practicing fierce optimism >> >>> "Either"? Isn't that we are talking about? >> >>No. I have dry skin, but I don't have cracked fingers. >> >>> No, I don't have dry skin >>> anywhere on my body. >> >>Then your anecotal evidence is irrelevant to this discussion. >> >>Karen, >>practicing fierce optimism > Unless she has the magic key that prevents dry skin and cracked fingers? Well, being born not having dry skin makes all the difference. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHNABp021321 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:23:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A797C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:20:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:20:33 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHKTd00881 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:20:33 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:20:24 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7794E@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hurray for Peter Jennings Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:20:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:10 PM > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:49:32 -0500, Phil Paxton > wrote: > >Also, perhaps Mr. Jennings is feeling he has a bit more > liberty now that > >he's an American citizen. > > vain hope! How so? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:24:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHOkBp021355 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:24:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A797C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:22:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:22:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHM9d01028 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:22:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCHM7W1003748 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:22:07 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCHM6Wq003724; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:22:06 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031212091541.00b46738@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:16:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:09 PM 12/12/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Then your anecotal evidence is irrelevant to this discussion. > > > >Karen, > >practicing fierce optimism > >Unless she has the magic key that prevents dry skin and cracked fingers? >clo Good genes. Bonnie has pretty hands. Mine are spotted. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:25:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHPhBp021361 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002170F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 753767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHD5d32250 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:13:05 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCHBoIi014944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:11:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:13:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm glad we had this discussion. I have sought a way to be kinder to my feet, and I have decided to get them a paraffin thingie. They have agreed to allow my hands to play, also. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:25:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHPlBp021364 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A797B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:10 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHN9d01162 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:09 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCHN857083753 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122244.00bbeba0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:23:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <656854677.20031212111548@WordWrite.com> References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, being born not having dry skin makes all the difference. >Karen, practicing fierce optimism We are all born wet. Maybe you need to be born again. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:27:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHRgBp021380 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:27:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A797DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:25:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:25:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHP5d01558 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:25:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCHP36X024529 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:25:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <765330565.20031212112524@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122244.00bbeba0@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122244.00bbeba0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>Well, being born not having dry skin makes all the difference. >>Karen, practicing fierce optimism > We are all born wet. Maybe you need to be born again. No, thanks. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:29:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHTdBp021403 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:29:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A797DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:27:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:27:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHR1d01995 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:27:01 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77950@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:26:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Michael E. Macmillan [mailto:mem@NOXIOUSWEEDS.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:30 PM > On 11 Dec 2003 at 20:12, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > What I am really trying to find out is whether > is now a > > term of art - or one you made up. > > One Google search is worth a thousand obtuse queries. Is that one good google search or one google search of any quality? I've had ongoing discussons with several of their development teams regarding problems I've discovered occasionally - in the specialized Google "products" - and as a result, gotten access to some of the others. One of the things I've suggested (and it's under consideration) is when using groups.google.com, to be able to specify or somehow make use of the # of threads, making DejaGoogle a stronger research tool. If people have posted a single message (a thread == 1), ignore it because it was too silly or obvious. The same would go for items with 200 threads - there's likely so much drift it's not worth retrieving. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:32:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHWVBp021450 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:32:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A797F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:29:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 754976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:29:54 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHTsd02451 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:29:54 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCHTq57084841 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:29:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122317.02543e68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:29:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7794A@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Speaking of which, I missed the episode which was billed as having the worst >contestant and having the immunity idol recalled. > >Can someone catch me up on this? The immunity idol recalled was nothing. It was just that Jeff made a mistake in judging someone's correct completion of the immunity challenge. So Jeff took the idol back and the challenge continued. The worst contestant ever is Jon. In the episode that you missed they did the visit-from-a-family-member reward challenge. Jon had set it up before he left home that a male friend of his would be the one who would be picked for the visit to the Survivor set on his behalf. He called this guy before the show started and told him to whisper to Jon that his Grandma had died while he was gone. Jon said he needed all the advantage that he can get and the sympathy vote would help. Well, they pulled it off. The rest of the gang felt sorry for poor Jon having lost his Grandma and let him win the reward. Jon and friend, in a moment alone, spill the beans to the camera that it is all a lie. The rest of the survivors still think that Jon lost his Grandma and feel sorry for him. Jon and friend pulled it off quite well. Each survivor got to hug the loved one before the contest began. When Jon hugged his friend he asked "How's my Grandma?" The guy said "She died, Dude." Jon fell apart in tears. Jeff asked why Jon had gone from happy to see his friend to tears. "Boo hoo hoo. My grandma died!" bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:33:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHXgBp021471 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:33:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217163@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 755068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHV4d02658 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCHV22f023030 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:03 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCHV1JC023004; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:02 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031212092456.00b93500@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:25:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <254947905.20031212111457@WordWrite.com> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:14 AM 12/12/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >It helped my sister's dry skin in general, but she still cracked. This >is possibly because of her job as a paramedic: she's constantly >washing her hands. We are trying the alcohol based hand cleaner now. The nurses like it. Sounds as if it would be more drying. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHYTBp021477 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:34:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 755149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHVld02757 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCHUqKX004784 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:30:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:32:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1259860248.20031212113206@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122317.02543e68@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122317.02543e68@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>Speaking of which, I missed the episode which was billed as having the worst >>contestant and having the immunity idol recalled. >> >>Can someone catch me up on this? > The immunity idol recalled was nothing. It was just that Jeff made a > mistake in judging someone's correct completion of the immunity > challenge. So Jeff took the idol back and the challenge continued. Burton lost it--and I think Darrah won it. Karen, practicing fierce optimism From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:34:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHYTBq021477 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:34:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7980A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 755153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHVld02758 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:47 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77951@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:31:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:17 PM > On Thursday, December 11, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > I also loved tonight's show. I have formulated two > possible scenarios for > > the final four, depending on who wins immunity in the next > challenge. But > > in both scenarios good ole Johnny Fairplay with the faux > dead Grandma > > doesn't make it to the final two. > > Oh, I would definitely take him with me to the final 2. No one would > vote for him! I think that logic has backfired before. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:39:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHd1Bp021526 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:39:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021715F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:36:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 755527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:36:22 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHZXd03587 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:35:33 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:35:28 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77952@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:35:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:50 AM > In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:27:32 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > > > I don't. I tend to use small toys like koosh balls, > >beanbags, silly putty, etc. > > > I can't believe this is going on in class. I know I preferred to pay > attention, because if I didn't, I'd fail my tests, and find a > bad mark on my report > card, and I'd get serious complaints at home. :-{ Speaking of which, has anyone tried any of the various recipes floating about the 'net for Silly Putty? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:40:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHeLBp021545 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:40:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7983D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:37:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 755697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:37:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHbid03885 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:37:44 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:37:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77953@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:37:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: steph [mailto:stevie@MULTINIX.COM] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:30 AM > Theo Groothof: > = In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:27:32 PM, > rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > = > = > I don't. I tend to use small toys like koosh balls, > = >beanbags, silly putty, etc. > = > > = I can't believe this is going on in class. I know I preferred to pay > = attention, because if I didn't, I'd fail my tests, and find > a bad mark on my report > = card, and I'd get serious complaints at home. :-{ > = Theo > > Theo, > > You just don't get it! Haven't you been following the > conversation at all? Rita is helping these kids get better marks > by putting something into their hands. They don't know how to > cope with being distracted and having to pay attention. So that > is part of what Rita is teaching them. > > With math, you can do all kinds of lesson based things with > manipulatives because you can measure them, or they fit together > like a tangram. I like to think of this as science without the > mess. With English class it's a little harder, which is why the > toys. It's not unlike the Children's Museum we have here in Indy - it's heavily built around tactile experiences for kids - granted, adults have fun as well, but the kids really get off on what's available to them. There's a dinosaur exhibit and they can have their own dig, etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 11:46:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCHkqBp021618 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:46:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7987A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:44:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 756250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:44:15 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCHiEd05050 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:44:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCHiDrm022880 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:44:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:44:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <615948489.20031212114430@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I'm glad we had this discussion. I have sought a way to be kinder to my > feet, and I have decided to get them a paraffin thingie. They have agreed > to allow my hands to play, also. I'm surprised at your extravagance! Get a No-Crack product, put that on at night, then put cotton socks on. It will make a difference. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:02:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCI2vBp021853 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:02:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217234@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:00:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 757537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:00:12 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCI0Cd08068 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:00:12 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:00:06 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77955@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:00:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Bethany K. Dumas [mailto:dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:10 AM > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > > >I'm not sure I've used that particular one, but Gold Bond > didn't help. I > >was told the absolute best was to rub Crisco on my hands and then put > >cotton gloves on and go to bed. I haven't been quite > desperate enough to > >do this. > > Get a No-Crack product, put that on at night, then put cotton > gloves on. > It will make a difference. I do the same with socks. I rarely wear socks when I get home so the bottom of each foot is very dry & thick. If a crack occurs, it's very deep & painful. Softening them at night prevents that type of problem. Now, there will be a twist. I've had a plantar's wart reappear. This is the third time I've had it. The first two were when I was 10 and 31. I told my dermatologist on the latter one that if I'd tattooed a circle around the first one, it would be in the same[1] location. He said that's not at all unusual. It'll be interesting to see how he deals with this one. The last time, he burned it out with several sessions of nitrogen. This one is worse than the one I get on the ball of my foot (under my big toe). It has a tendency to wrap around a nerve so my foot will tremor, or get so hot my foot sweats like a bucket of water pouring over it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:05:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCI5PBp021905 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:05:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7991F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 757765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCI2md08612 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:48 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77956@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:43 AM > Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? > clo, just curious I've heard|read (source unknown) if you are doing so that it's a good idea to use something other than tap water because certain humidifiers and vaporizers cause the impurities (mostly metals) to become airborne and potentially hazardous over a long period of time. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCIBpBp022013 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:11:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79972@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 758331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCI9Dd09822 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217245@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121809.hBCI9Dd09822@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:02:41 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:43 AM > >> Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? >> clo, just curious > >I've heard|read (source unknown) if you are doing so that it's a good idea >to use something other than tap water because certain humidifiers and >vaporizers cause the impurities (mostly metals) to become airborne and >potentially hazardous over a long period of time. Good to know and almost certain to be true. There's also the danger of molds growing and becoming airborne. As we say at my house, ETIATES. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:12:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCIC4Bp022017 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:12:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79962@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 758348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCI9Qd09856 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:09:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCI9Prm019738 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:09:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <176688432.20031212120945@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77956@EXCHSRVR1> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77956@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:43 AM >> Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? >> clo, just curious > I've heard|read (source unknown) if you are doing so that it's a good idea > to use something other than tap water because certain humidifiers and > vaporizers cause the impurities (mostly metals) to become airborne and > potentially hazardous over a long period of time. It's also a good way to spread bacteria. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:13:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCID2Bp022037 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:13:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79978@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:10:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 758393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:10:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCIAOd09993 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:10:24 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:10:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77957@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:10:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:30 PM > The worst contestant ever is Jon. In the episode that you > missed they did > Jon and friend pulled it off quite well. Each survivor got to hug the > loved one before the contest began. When Jon hugged his > friend he asked > "How's my Grandma?" The guy said "She died, Dude." Jon > fell apart in > tears. Jeff asked why Jon had gone from happy to see his friend to > tears. "Boo hoo hoo. My grandma died!" Interesting. Jon is a slimeball (aside from this) but I must admit this falls into the "outwit" category. I'm surprised Rupert didn't get rid of him when he had a chance. Not doing so may permit Jon to sit in the last seat, potentially as the greater of two evils[1], hoping someone less so would win. Does anyone [else] know about his trick? Perhaps those voted off & in the jury? If so, wouldn't it be a delicious question |statement in the final vote? I wonder how informed the jury is and how sequestered they are. "The lesser of two evils is still evil." -W. Churchill From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:15:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCIFpBp022123 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:15:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79984@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:13:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 758673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:13:14 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCIDDd10486 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:13:13 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBCID9kF010504 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:13:09 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBCID8pN010502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:13:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:13:08 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: anniversary Message-ID: <20031212181308.GA10359@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot: = Today is the 12th anniversary of the first US web site (Stanford Linear Accelerator Center) Happy Webday! (no it's not a middle-of-the-week cold) = = = BrP = see http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/history.shtml (but the geeks have probably already found their way there) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:25:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCIPmBp022263 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:25:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79A05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 759511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:23:11 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCINAd11918 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:23:10 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:23:05 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7795A@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Field vs. sweet corn Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:27 PM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers > > forever referring to "pig > > corn," right? > > I think, in the old country (Pennsylvania)we called it > Indian corn. (?) I've always heard Indian corn referred to as maize. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:26:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCIQkBp022275 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:26:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79A00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:24:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 759629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:24:09 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCIO9d12197 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:24:09 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:24:03 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7795B@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:24:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:51 PM > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >>>>Does Starkville have a drugstore? You may want to > >> > >>try there. > > > > Try CVS or Rite-Aid. > > We aren't that drugstore rich. It created major excitement a > year or so > ago when Walgreens came to town. I did enjoy going in there this > afternoon since I've been there only a couple of times before. I was > surprised to see that it even has food -- as in milk and frozen foods > and stuff. I don't remember having noticed that in my earlier visits. > I love full-fledged drugstores of that kind. So it's like what Granny (Beverly Hillbillies) used to refer to as "whatnot shops" ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 12:56:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCIuZBp022711 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:56:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79AF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:53:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 761752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:53:57 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCIrvd16650 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:53:57 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPS004BVPTX4E@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:49:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:49:39 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Field vs. sweet corn To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2cb8432cdcf0.2cdcf02cb843@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Phil Paxton > > From: Lynne Weber [lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:27 PM > > > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > > Y'alls are talking about what I've heard farmers > > > forever referring to "pig > > > corn," right? > > > > I think, in the old country (Pennsylvania)we called it > > Indian corn. (?) > > I've always heard Indian corn referred to as maize. What I think of as Indian Corn is the corn that is multi-colored, including some dark reddish and dark brown and some light colored kernels. The stuff that some people hang on their door in the Fall... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:05:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJ51Bp022829 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:05:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002173F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:02:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 762052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:02:22 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCJ2Id17412 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:02:22 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:02:12 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7795F@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:02:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:45 AM > *extremely explanatory mode* Some students may lack the > imaganation to invent > their own manipulatives, or have been trained out of such > habits by earlier, > repressive teachers. Rita keeps small objects on hand which > she may hand to > a student to hold and , thereby not only planting > the suggestion > but also giving permission to use up neurological overflow in > a healthy > manner, thus aiding concentration. > */extremely explanatory mode* > clo What effect do parents have on manipulatives? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:10:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJAVBp022895 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79B3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:07:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 762322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:07:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCJ7id18139 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:07:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002173DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:07:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121907.hBCJ7id18139@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:07:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:02:12 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:45 AM > >> *extremely explanatory mode* Some students may lack the >> imaganation to invent >> their own manipulatives, or have been trained out of such >> habits by earlier, >> repressive teachers. Rita keeps small objects on hand which >> she may hand to >> a student to hold and , thereby not only planting >> the suggestion >> but also giving permission to use up neurological overflow in >> a healthy >> manner, thus aiding concentration. >> */extremely explanatory mode* >> clo > >What effect do parents have on manipulatives? The ones who continually say, "stop that fidgiting!"? Or the ones like BrP, who start building sandcastles in the mash potatoes with their kids? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:20:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJKTBp023017 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:20:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79B73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 762868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:51 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCJHpd19606 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:51 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:32 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBCJKTBp023017 i don't think I ever built sand castles in the mashed potatoes but I sure do remember taking every piece of furniture and every sheet and blanket we could find and building a castle in the living room with my kids. I do remember my dad sticking a flower in the mashed potatoes at Easter dinner one year and proclaiming "up from the gravy, a rose" BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/12/03 02:07PM >>> The ones who continually say, "stop that fidgiting!"? Or the ones like BrP, who start building sandcastles in the mash potatoes with their kids? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:39:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJdbBp023303 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:39:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79C29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 764733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCJaw923494 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312121936.hBCJaw923494@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:32 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >i don't think I ever built sand castles in the mashed potatoes but I sure do remember taking every piece of furniture and every sheet and blanket we could find and building a castle in the living room with my kids. > >I do remember my dad sticking a flower in the mashed potatoes at Easter dinner one year and proclaiming "up from the gravy, a rose" > >BrP > > > >>>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/12/03 02:07PM >>> > >The ones who continually say, "stop that fidgiting!"? Or the ones like >BrP, who start building sandcastles in the mash potatoes with their >kids? > >clo Very well, I will cite closer to home. ...or the ones who hand a fractious child, first a lollipop, and then, when good and sticky, a kleenex that will stick to every finger and be picked off as lint for the majority of a 700 mile car ride? (My mother, in a desperate bid to amuse my daughter, with very good results). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:43:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJh0Bp023327 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:43:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79C50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:40:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 764930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:40:22 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCJeG924086 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:40:16 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:40:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:40:01 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBCJh0Bp023327 LOL ! My mother's version of this was maple syrup (or honey) and a feather >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/12/03 02:36PM >>> Very well, I will cite closer to home. ....or the ones who hand a fractious child, first a lollipop, and then, when good and sticky, a kleenex that will stick to every finger and be picked off as lint for the majority of a 700 mile car ride? (My mother, in a desperate bid to amuse my daughter, with very good results). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:45:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJjXBp023364 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:45:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79C74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:42:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCJgs924542 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:42:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCJgq6X010788 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:42:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:43:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1506479695.20031212134314@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <200312121936.hBCJaw923494@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312121936.hBCJaw923494@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Very well, I will cite closer to home. > ...or the ones who hand a fractious child, first a lollipop, and then, when > good and sticky, a kleenex that will stick to every finger and be picked > off as lint for the majority of a 700 mile car ride? (My mother, in a > desperate bid to amuse my daughter, with very good results). Paul's mom mentioned a few tricks like this; she clearly has an endless supply. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJjkBp023372 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:45:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:43:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 765186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:43:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCJh7924629 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:43:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCJh6W1025524 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:43:06 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBCJh5Wq025497; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:43:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031212113703.00b6d3c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:37:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Those days were so much fun! I don't know if I could get back up again now. At 02:17 PM 12/12/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >i don't think I ever built sand castles in the mashed potatoes but I sure >do remember taking every piece of furniture and every sheet and blanket we >could find and building a castle in the living room with my kids. > >I do remember my dad sticking a flower in the mashed potatoes at Easter >dinner one year and proclaiming "up from the gravy, a rose" LOL. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 13:59:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCJxIBp023521 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:59:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79CFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:56:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 766473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:56:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCJuZm27375 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:56:39 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77961@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Alert for Natalie Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:56:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Evelyn Duncan [mailto:BrandyKitt@AOL.COM] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:37 AM > In a message dated 12/10/2003 10:29:57 PM Central Standard Time, > clostran@SYR.EDU writes: > << > Are we talking about Soilent Green? > >> > > Yes, in the book, Soylent Green was a soy-based product; > in the movie, it's human-based. But there were other Soylent colors weren't there? (e.g., Soylent Red) I'm waiting (unfortunately) for someone to come out with a "'new' interpretation" of: [] Soylent Green [] Capricorn One [] The Andromeda Strain They just "locked" Rollerball (2002) with schlock (they call it "over the top")[1] for 25-30 years by seeing how low of a budget and find a writer on their first script. I can probably come up with other "classic" movies, but these are obvious ones they'll go after. [1] They've used similar techniques with "The Brady Bunch", "The Beverly Hillbillies", and likely will with "Gilligan's Island". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:06:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCK6XBp023707 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:06:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79D33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:03:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:03:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCK3om29238 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:03:54 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77963@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hurray for Peter Jennings Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:03:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:35 PM > PLEASE, do not contract the flu. They've been closing schools here in Indy. I don't know what percentage it takes (varying from school corporation to corporation) but it's happening. What's interesting (in a bad way) is to watch the news. They've got a "Visiting Nurse Service" which has been moving through the city from region to region. I think last night they announced yesterday's session was going to be 6:00am-noon. People were lining up at 3:30am with their kids to try to ensure they'd been vaccinated. There were people who arrived at the "official" opening time who were waiting so long they didn't get jabbed. I've mentioned this (being there at the "official open" and missing) on other days, but 3:30am ??? It seems like they almost need to ask the schools to take a census from the students at registration time to see how many want the vaccine. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:07:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCK7hBp023721 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:07:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79D3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:05:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:05:04 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCK54m29418 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:05:04 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:04:57 PST Message-ID: <20031212200457.89404.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I'm glad we had this discussion. I have sought a way > to be kinder to my > feet, and I have decided to get them a paraffin > thingie. They have agreed > to allow my hands to play, also. If thet trend continues, is there any reason why we cannot establish a Wordsler Wax Museum? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:09:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCK9jBp023756 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:09:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79D5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:07:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:07:07 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCK77m29754 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:07:07 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:06:44 PST Message-ID: <20031212200644.41436.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:06:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212122244.00bbeba0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > >Well, being born not having dry skin makes all the > difference. > >Karen, practicing fierce optimism > > We are all born wet. Maybe you need to be born > again. I intend to keep doing it until I get it right. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:14:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKEFBp023838 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:14:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79D7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 767976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:37 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCKBam30728 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:36 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.3e.38ed39f8 (17526) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:16 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.38ed39f8.2d0b7ae4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:16 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/12/2003 11:38:09 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: >> You just don't get it! Haven't you been following the > conversation at all? Rita is helping these kids get better marks > by putting something into their hands. They don't know how to > cope with being distracted and having to pay attention. So that > is part of what Rita is teaching them. -------------------- > I most definitely DO get it. When my oldest went to highschool, she wasn't allowed to take French because she "already" took 5 subjects. Do you people have any idea how many subjects we had to take without ANY choices? We also had classes from 9AM to 4PM except Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday which were half day classes until 2PM. Is it any wonder Americans can't spell? BTW, this dau is a french teacher today! Spanish, too. So I assume you understand that if we didn't pay attention, we'd pay the consequences! No serious student would appreciate having to repeat a year. Theo >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKHiBp023906 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:17:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79D9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:15:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 768261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:15:00 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKF0m31476 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:15:00 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:14:52 PST Message-ID: <20031212201454.81976.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312121907.hBCJ7id18139@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >What effect do parents have on manipulatives? > > The ones who continually say, "stop that > fidgiting!"? Or the ones like > BrP, who start building sandcastles in the mash > potatoes with their > kids? Yes. What effects do manipulatives have on parents? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:46:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKkvBp024286 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:46:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217735@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:43:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 770986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:44:00 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKhxm05203 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:43:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 7308 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 20:43:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212204351.7307.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:43:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes: > Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? I bought one after getting home from Japan since I noticed that the wet heat there meant no cracked fingers. But I don't think the humidifier helped much, and I got scared of all its warnings about giving yourself the epizudics if you didn't change the filter often, etc. etc. I think I still have it somewhere in a closet. I was thinking about it earlier today, thinking about how maybe I'll pull it out and try it agaain if I can figure out how to replace its filter. I still like this hand cream also. There may be hope. I don't, however, like that I'm having to use webmail right now. I detest webmail. But something is wrong with popmail and I can't get to natalie@maynor.net mail directly. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:47:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKlaBp024293 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:47:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217711@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:44:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:44:57 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKivm05383 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:44:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 7380 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 20:44:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212204456.7379.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212083512.00b2fc38@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212083512.00b2fc38@pop.gwi.net> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: SURVIVOR Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:44:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes: > If Jon wins immunity, I think they will vote off Lil. If one of the women > wins immunity, they will vote off Jon. The final immunity will be one of > those endurance tests. I doubt that either Jon or Sandra or Lil will win > that. Darrah will. She'll pick Sandra to go to the final two with her > over Jon or Lil. Who the jury picks after that, I don't know. Certainly > Sandra has made some enemies. But remember that no one knows that she was > the one who threw away the fish after Rupert got voted off. There are > lots of people from Sandra's original tribe who are on the jury. They > might give her the million. Certainly Rupert and Christa would. If I had to bet, I think I would bet on Sandra right now as the winner. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:49:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKnWBp024310 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:49:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79EC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKkgm05818 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:46:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 7595 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 20:46:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212204641.7594.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084555.00b72e40@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084555.00b72e40@pop.gwi.net> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:46:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes: > But they don't trust him anymore. I could not believe that Burton looked > into the camera in his final farewell and tells Lil that he hopes she can > live with betraying their alliance. He had just written down Lil's name > and betrayed her!!!! I also was shocked. But then I realized that maybe he said that because he had never intended to be honest and thus wouldn't have to live with guilt but that Lil would feel guilty. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:53:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKruBp024407 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:53:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79F14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:51:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:51:17 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKpGm06925 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:51:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 8206 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 20:51:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212205115.8205.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <000001c3c0cd$ad628710$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000001c3c0cd$ad628710$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:51:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin writes: > The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is being held in the > Photo department. > > Natalie, it is yours. You are kind! But I think I am going to give a try to the humidifier and hand cream before pursuing the paraffin thingy. Which Walgreen's are you talking about? One in Philadelphia? -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:55:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKtsBp024484 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:55:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217790@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:53:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 771955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:53:08 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKr7m07154 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:53:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 9004 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 20:53:05 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-14.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 20:53:05 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E131933 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:53:05 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-14.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071262385!397481 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:53:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c3c0f1$f0ad81e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20031212205115.8205.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:51 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > >Alec D. Plotkin writes: > >> The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is >being held in the >> Photo department. >> >> Natalie, it is yours. > >You are kind! But I think I am going to give a try to the >humidifier and >hand cream before pursuing the paraffin thingy. Which >Walgreen's are you talking about? One in Philadelphia? > Starkville, MS alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:57:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKvXBp024493 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:57:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021779B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:54:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:54:54 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKsrm07320 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:54:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 16595 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 20:54:51 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-6.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 20:54:51 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B5F1A4 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:54:51 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071262491!396633 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:54:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <000901c3c0f1$f0ad81e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alec D. Plotkin >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:53 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: English Language Discussion Group >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >>Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:51 PM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies >> >> >>Alec D. Plotkin writes: >> >>> The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is >>being held in the >>> Photo department. >>> >>> Natalie, it is yours. >> >>You are kind! But I think I am going to give a try to the >>humidifier and >>hand cream before pursuing the paraffin thingy. Which >>Walgreen's are you talking about? One in Philadelphia? >> > >Starkville, MS > > >alec > > > 220 HIGHWAY 12 W STARKVILLE,MS 39759-3762 (662) 323-0848 (662) 323-2129 alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 14:57:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCKvwBp024499 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:57:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79F32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:55:09 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKt8m07404 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:55:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 8597 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 20:55:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212205503.8596.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> <161620103.20031212104553@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <161620103.20031212104553@WordWrite.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:55:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes: > I > hate paying shipping; IME, it always costs more than buying the thing > locally. I've found that it usually balances out with sales tax -- i.e., that what I have to pay for shipping is about the same as what I'd have to pay in sales tax if bought locally. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCL0BBp024543 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:00:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79F62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:57:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:57:33 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKvWm08334 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:57:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 8907 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 20:57:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:57:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes: > Yes, that's why I specified "to rooms". We're finding that having a > humidifier in our office has helped dry skin, sore throat, and fatigue > problems. We've also added a teapot and bottled water to increase winter > hydration. How is a vaporizer different from a humidifier? I saw a cute little thing in Walgreens yesterday that was a vaporizer -- needs no filling. But I thought I might get tired of the Vicksy smell. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCL1XBp024571 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:01:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021779D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:55 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCKwsm08578 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 12861 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 20:58:52 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-20.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 20:58:52 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB44E9F7 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:52 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071262732!397509 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c3c0f2$c0391190$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alec D. Plotkin >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:55 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: English Language Discussion Group >>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alec D. Plotkin >>Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:53 PM >>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: English Language Discussion Group >>>[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >>>Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:51 PM >>>To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>>Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies >>> >>> >>>Alec D. Plotkin writes: >>> >>>> The Walgreen's has one and is holding it for Alec. It is >>>being held in the >>>> Photo department. >>>> >>>> Natalie, it is yours. >>> >>>You are kind! But I think I am going to give a try to the >>>humidifier and >>>hand cream before pursuing the paraffin thingy. Which >>>Walgreen's are you talking about? One in Philadelphia? >>> >> >>Starkville, MS >> >> >>alec >> >> >> >220 HIGHWAY 12 W >STARKVILLE,MS 39759-3762 > >(662) 323-0848 (662) 323-2129 > > >alec > > > About two miles from your house. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:04:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCL42Bp024624 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:04:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A79F81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:01:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:01:23 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCL1Mm09135 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:01:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 9411 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 21:01:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212210122.9410.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <000301c3c0d2$96d67c90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000301c3c0d2$96d67c90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:01:22 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin writes: > 19.99 and Walmart carries the item too. I noticed that Wmart and Wgreens had pretty much the same products yesterday. They both had a Hosomething brand that was cheaper than the other brands. I was suspicious of it. They had different other brands that were familiar -- one of them had Dr Scholls, the other some other well-known brand. About the same prices. But neither of them had the hands-only ones. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:08:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCL84Bp024692 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:08:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A79FB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:05:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 773348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:05:22 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCL5Mm10097 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:05:22 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:05:16 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:05:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > -----Original Message----- > From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:11 PM > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting > > > In a message dated 12/12/2003 11:38:09 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: > > >> You just don't get it! Haven't you been following the > > conversation at all? Rita is helping these kids get better marks > > by putting something into their hands. They don't know how to > > cope with being distracted and having to pay attention. So that > > is part of what Rita is teaching them. > -------------------- > > I most definitely DO get it. When my oldest went to > highschool, she wasn't > allowed to take French because she "already" took 5 subjects. > Do you people > have any idea how many subjects we had to take without ANY > choices? We also had > classes from 9AM to 4PM except Tuesday, Thursday, and > Saturday which were half > day classes until 2PM. Is it any wonder Americans can't spell? > BTW, this dau is a french teacher today! Spanish, too. So I assume you > understand that if we didn't pay attention, we'd pay the > consequences! No serious > student would appreciate having to repeat a year. Theo > >> I think there's some problems with attributes there...I've not disagreed with what Rita is doing and I don't have any kids. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:11:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLB5Bp024750 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A79FCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 773555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCL8Om10675 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:24 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77966@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: SURVIVOR Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:45 PM > If I had to bet, I think I would bet on Sandra right now as > the winner. I don't have the issue in front of me, but this week's tv guide had odds for each of the players winning. I think Burton was at 5::2 and someone else was at 4::2 (Jon?) <- I don't think so, but... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:11:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLB9Bp024754 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:11:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021781A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 772651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCKwUm08498 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:30 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCKvEIi014266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:57:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031212200457.89404.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031212200457.89404.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I'm glad we had this discussion. I have sought a way >> to be kinder to my >> feet, and I have decided to get them a paraffin >> thingie. They have agreed >> to allow my hands to play, also. > >If thet trend continues, is there any reason why we >cannot establish a Wordsler Wax Museum? All our feet! Yes! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:12:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLCuBp024790 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:12:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002177EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 773625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:30 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCL8em10785 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:08:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 10726 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 21:08:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212210839.10725.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77957@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77957@EXCHSRVR1> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:08:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton writes: > Interesting. Jon is a slimeball (aside from this) but I must admit this > falls into the "outwit" category. One of my lunch friends is now pulling for Jon because he thought the grandmother thing was a brilliant stroke -- and that it's how you play the game. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:12:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLCuBq024790 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:12:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217826@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 773712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCL9Vm10869 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:31 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77967@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Survivor Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:47 PM > bonniev writes: > > > But they don't trust him anymore. I could not believe that > Burton looked > > into the camera in his final farewell and tells Lil that he > hopes she can > > live with betraying their alliance. He had just written > down Lil's name > > and betrayed her!!!! > > I also was shocked. But then I realized that maybe he said > that because he > had never intended to be honest and thus wouldn't have to > live with guilt > but that Lil would feel guilty. I figured he was fishing. I don't think he truly knows she voted for him. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:19:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLJVBp024949 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:19:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A0B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:16:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 776371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:16:52 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCLGqm15871 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:16:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 11940 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 21:16:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212211651.11939.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <000901c3c0f1$f0ad81e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000901c3c0f1$f0ad81e0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:16:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin writes: >>Walgreen's are you talking about? One in Philadelphia? >> > Starkville, MS Interesting! They didn't have one yesterday. They had only the big ones -- the hand/feet kind. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLLrBp024980 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A0D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:19:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 776635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:19:14 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCLJEm16514 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:19:14 -0500 Received: (qmail 12121 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2003 21:19:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20031212211913.12120.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:19:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin writes: > 220 HIGHWAY 12 W > STARKVILLE,MS 39759-3762 I know where it is. But thank you.:-) Maybe I'll go check it out, although I really hate the thought of going outside in the cold again. I started coughing yesterday, and about mid-day today my ears sort of closed up. It feels quite unpleasant. Is this the sign of something like a cold or flu? -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:24:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLO4Bp024995 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:24:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 777158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:25 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCLLPm17603 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 10608 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 21:21:24 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-7.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 21:21:24 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA8CE3E for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:23 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071264083!397982 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c3c0f5$e5769420$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <20031212211651.11939.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:17 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies > > >Alec D. Plotkin writes: > >>>Walgreen's are you talking about? One in Philadelphia? >>> >> Starkville, MS > >Interesting! They didn't have one yesterday. They had only >the big ones -- >the hand/feet kind. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > I did not check for if it did only hands or feet. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:30:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLUXBp025082 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:30:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A127@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:27:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 777620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:27:54 -0500 Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (outbound28-2.lax.untd.com [64.136.28.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBCLRsm18599 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:27:54 -0500 Received: from outbound28-2.lax.untd.com (smtp04.lax.untd.com [10.130.24.124]) by smtpout04.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AAA97WNWJABYZN7S for (sender ); Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5057 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 21:25:48 -0000 Received: from 1cust254.tnt9.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.146.254) by smtp04.lax.untd.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2003 21:25:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c3c0f6$c4fe6500$fe928744@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Survivor Final Four Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:27:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 9:4:1933004743 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How will the producers get from four to one and have a reunion show all in the space of two hours? Bonnie, you're the resident expert. My favorite is Darrah; unlike Natalie, I am for her precisely because she is backwoods Mississippi. She hasn't had much camera time until her recent trifecta in the immunity challenges (and the dwindling pool of survivors too, of course). It's as if the show is somehow embarrassed by her drawl and the lack of drama in her answers and her ho-hum participation in the various intrigues. She won't win, but I likes her much. It didn't hit me until late in this current series that Jon has an uncanny physical resemblance to our John Hannum; also, some of his mannerisms. But John H. had no perfidous streak in him like this character. Well, maybe it's more like mischief, and Hannum definitely had that. Some of the things the principals say to the camera, like the menopause business and she's pretty good for someone fifty years old, reek of being scripted, very poorly scripted. Ways of talking: I like Sandra's saucy one, and adored Christa's. Wish I could name both styles of speech, but can't. There was never any follow-up on Sandra throwing away the fish, and Christa taking the blame for it. Maybe in the reunion segment... brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:43:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLhjBp025214 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:43:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217911@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:41:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 778961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:41:05 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCLehm21731 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:40:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.130]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212214038.OSQH2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:40:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA35D7.4AE3A07F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:40:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <000e01c3c0f5$e5769420$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > >Interesting! They didn't have one yesterday. They had only > >the big ones -- > >the hand/feet kind. > > I did not check for if it did only hands or feet. Both Wmart and Wgreens had plenty of the hands/feet ones when I went shopping yesterday -- the big ones. What I'm looking for is the hands-only size -- the kind Karen was talking about that her sister has. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:55:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLtXBp025362 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:55:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A229@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:52:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 779900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:52:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCLqim23969 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:52:44 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCLqg57032944 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:52:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165146.00bc8120@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:52:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77967@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I figured he was fishing. I don't think he truly knows she voted for him. What? Do you think Burton thought that maybe Jon voted for him??!! No way. There were three votes against Burton. Thus it had to be the three women. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 15:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCLujBp025378 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:56:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A222@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:54:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 780102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:54:06 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCLs5m24391 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:54:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCLs457033168 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:54:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165305.0254be88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:54:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031212211913.12120.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I started coughing yesterday, and about mid-day today my ears sort of > closed up. It >feels quite unpleasant. Is this the sign of something like a cold or flu? >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oh dear. Yes, it's the sign of a cold. I have it right now. Sometimes when I swallow I can feel it in my ears. However, I don't feel all that ill. Just congested. This is my fourth day of it. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:02:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCM2BBp025439 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:02:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A28C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:59:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 780842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:59:32 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCLxWm25756 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:59:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCLxU57034182 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:59:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165717.025482f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:59:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor Final Four In-Reply-To: <000d01c3c0f6$c4fe6500$fe928744@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >How will the producers get from four to one and have a reunion >show all in the space of two hours? Bonnie, you're the resident >expert. They won't. The final episode will be two hours long followed by an hour long reunion show. >Some of the things the principals say to the camera, like the >menopause business and she's pretty good for someone fifty years >old, reek of being scripted, very poorly scripted. >brad That didn't sound scripted to me at all. When a 50-year-old woman can't sleep at night, she might very likely wonder if it's stress or if it's menopause. When her legs and arms burn so that she has to put her feet in the water, she might well wonder if it's some new and hideous form of hot flashes. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:03:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCM3eBp025451 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:03:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A2B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:01:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 781254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:01:01 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCM10m26065 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:01:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212220055.ELSB1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:00:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA3A99.5040606@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:00:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <000a01c3c0f2$308ea820$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165305.0254be88@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165305.0254be88@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Oh dear. Yes, it's the sign of a cold. I have it right now. Sometimes > when I swallow I can feel it in my ears. However, I don't feel all that > ill. Just congested. This is my fourth day of it. I so rarely have colds that I don't recognize them very well. And I don't remember ever in my life having clogged, achy ears, going down my neck toward where the sore throat lives. And I feel shivery. That's why I don't want to go outside again today. At least the wind isn't as fierce as it was yesterday and the day before, but the day is still cold and uncomfortable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:12:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMChBp025595 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:12:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A32A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 782261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:03 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMA2m27839 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212220957.EPRG1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:09:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA3CB7.1020603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:09:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Wmart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This movie might be interesting: *************** Where the Heart Is The boyfriend of a pregnant teenager leaves her broke and abandoned in Oklahoma, where she begins living secretly at Wal-Mart. **************** from: http://tinyurl.com/z062 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMCpBp025605 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:12:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A322@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 782269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMACm27865 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217A6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312122210.hBCMACm27865@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:10:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:14:52 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >What effect do parents have on manipulatives? >> >> The ones who continually say, "stop that >> fidgiting!"? Or the ones like >> BrP, who start building sandcastles in the mash >> potatoes with their >> kids? > > >Yes. LOL! > What effects do manipulatives have on parents? What an interesting topic. Please discuss. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:14:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMEXBp025630 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:14:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A333@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:11:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 782364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:11:54 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMBsm28097 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:11:54 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCMBq57036800 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:11:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212171138.02547c70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:11:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Wmart In-Reply-To: <3FDA3CB7.1020603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I read the book. As I recall, it was pretty good. >This movie might be interesting: > >*************** >Where the Heart Is >The boyfriend of a pregnant teenager leaves her broke and abandoned in >Oklahoma, where she begins living secretly at Wal-Mart. >**************** >from: http://tinyurl.com/z062 > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:21:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMLxBp025758 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217AB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:19:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 782995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:19:20 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMJKm29656 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:19:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A375@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:19:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312122219.hBCMJKm29656@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:19:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:00:57 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >> Oh dear. Yes, it's the sign of a cold. I have it right now. Sometimes >> when I swallow I can feel it in my ears. However, I don't feel all that >> ill. Just congested. This is my fourth day of it. > >I so rarely have colds that I don't recognize them very well. And I >don't remember ever in my life having clogged, achy ears, going down my >neck toward where the sore throat lives. And I feel shivery. That's >why I don't want to go outside again today. At least the wind isn't as >fierce as it was yesterday and the day before, but the day is still cold >and uncomfortable. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Sorry to hear this. The admin. assist't in our office is down w/ what started as upper respiratory and turned to pneumonia. She is at least the 5th person I've been in contact w/ who had pneumonia in the last month. Please stay warm, rest, and drink hot fluids. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:29:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMTVBp025889 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:29:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A394@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 783564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:52 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMQqm30758 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212222643.POCR2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA40A5.8000609@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:26:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Wmart References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212171138.02547c70@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212171138.02547c70@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I read the book. As I recall, it was pretty good. There's also one on tonight called "Together" -- about a commune in Stockholm in the mid '70s. It's on IFC, a channel that I really think the DirecTV people erred on letting me keep since it's the only channel I get that's grouped with the ones I don't get -- ones like Starz and Flix and Sundance and stuff. But I keep getting IFC. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:32:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMW9Bp025934 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:32:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A3CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:29:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 783831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:29:28 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMTSm31266 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:29:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212222923.PPGR2005.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:29:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA4145.7020206@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:29:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312122219.hBCMJKm29656@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312122219.hBCMJKm29656@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Sorry to hear this. The admin. assist't in our office is down w/ what > started as upper respiratory and turned to pneumonia. She is at least > the 5th person I've been in contact w/ who had pneumonia in the last > month. Please stay warm, rest, and drink hot fluids. Ugh. The timing is good in that I turned in my last set of grades this afternoon. The semester is now OVER. I've heard about drinking liquids when having colds but didn't know they were supposed to be hot. I do have some herbal tea in my cabinet but was thinking more in terms of something like bourbon and water. I have it stuck in my head that bourbon cures ills. Or maybe I'm thinking of brandy. Can't remember now whether I have any brandy in my liquor cabinet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:39:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMd7Bp026004 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:39:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A3EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 784405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMaRm32529 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCMaQGn096093 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212173538.025479c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312122219.hBCMJKm29656@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Sorry to hear this. The admin. assist't in our office is down w/ what >started as upper respiratory and turned to pneumonia. She is at least >the 5th person I've been in contact w/ who had pneumonia in the last >month. Please stay warm, rest, and drink hot fluids. >clo I've often wondered about this. How do you know when you have pneumonia? I mean when would one get worried enough to go to a doctor and have her do pneumonia tests? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:39:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMdoBp026025 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:39:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A401@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 784434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMbBm32613 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217AFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200312122237.hBCMbBm32613@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:29:25 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Sorry to hear this. The admin. assist't in our office is down w/ what >> started as upper respiratory and turned to pneumonia. She is at least >> the 5th person I've been in contact w/ who had pneumonia in the last >> month. Please stay warm, rest, and drink hot fluids. > >Ugh. The timing is good in that I turned in my last set of grades this >afternoon. The semester is now OVER. I've heard about drinking liquids >when having colds but didn't know they were supposed to be hot. I do >have some herbal tea in my cabinet but was thinking more in terms of >something like bourbon and water. I have it stuck in my head that >bourbon cures ills. Or maybe I'm thinking of brandy. Can't remember >now whether I have any brandy in my liquor cabinet. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think that's more of an excuse to keep liquor in the house during prohibition or when teetotallers come to visit. I actually should have said "clear" liquids; but I find that hot tea or even coffee helps decongest me and makes it easier to breathe. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:42:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMgZBp026075 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:42:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 784575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMdtm00394 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217B0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312122239.hBCMdtm00394@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:29 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Sorry to hear this. The admin. assist't in our office is down w/ what >>started as upper respiratory and turned to pneumonia. She is at least >>the 5th person I've been in contact w/ who had pneumonia in the last >>month. Please stay warm, rest, and drink hot fluids. >>clo > >I've often wondered about this. How do you know when you have >pneumonia? I mean when would one get worried enough to go to a doctor and >have her do pneumonia tests? > > >bonnie She couldn't stop coughing and her chest hurt when she breathed. I go whenever I have prolonged coughing for several days with a rattle that seems low in my chest - I have chronic bronchitis, so am at risk for pneumonia. I collapsed a section of lung coughing once - that was not fun. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:44:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMiBBp026079 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217B18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:41:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 784690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:41:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMfWm00630 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:41:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217B4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:41:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312122241.hBCMfWm00630@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:41:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:55 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:36:29 -0500, bonniev wrote: > >>>Sorry to hear this. The admin. assist't in our office is down w/ what >>>started as upper respiratory and turned to pneumonia. She is at least >>>the 5th person I've been in contact w/ who had pneumonia in the last >>>month. Please stay warm, rest, and drink hot fluids. >>>clo >> >>I've often wondered about this. How do you know when you have >>pneumonia? I mean when would one get worried enough to go to a doctor and >>have her do pneumonia tests? >> >> >>bonnie > >She couldn't stop coughing and her chest hurt when she breathed. I go >whenever I have prolonged coughing for several days with a rattle that >seems low in my chest - I have chronic bronchitis, so am at risk for >pneumonia. I collapsed a section of lung coughing once - that was not >fun. > >clo Oh - and prolonged coughing with exhaustion beyond a normal cold (over a week), especially with a fever. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 16:57:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCMvWBp026305 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:57:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A46D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 785476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCMsqm02085 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-187.gwi.net [216.195.150.187]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCMsp57042468 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212175226.02553390@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312122239.hBCMdtm00394@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >She couldn't stop coughing and her chest hurt when she breathed. I go >whenever I have prolonged coughing for several days with a rattle that >seems low in my chest - I have chronic bronchitis, so am at risk for >pneumonia. I collapsed a section of lung coughing once - that was not >fun. --clo That sounds very unpleasant. I seldom cough. I had a high school history teacher who firmly believed that coughing was utterly unnecessary. I've learned differently in life. A productive cough is a good thing. Nevertheless, I seem to have trained myself not to cough when I was a junior in high school and almost never do. Ms. Cougan was her name. She came from a family that so hated FDR they forbid their children to even date anyone who favored FDR's policies. Seemed odd then and seems odd now. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:07:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCN7lBp026444 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:07:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A4B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:05:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 786194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:05:07 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCN57m03242 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:05:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.157.299e66e4 (4426) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:04:52 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <157.299e66e4.2d0ba394@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:04:52 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/12/2003 1:56:56 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << I'm waiting (unfortunately) for someone to come out with a "'new' interpretation" of: [] Soylent Green [] Capricorn One [] The Andromeda Strain >> The Prisoner. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:24:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNOCBp026690 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:24:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A514@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:21:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:21:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNLWm04809 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:21:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNLU6X000823 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:21:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:21:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15610108930.20031212172152@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor In-Reply-To: <20031212204641.7594.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084555.00b72e40@pop.gwi.net> <20031212204641.7594.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I also was shocked. But then I realized that maybe he said that because he > had never intended to be honest and thus wouldn't have to live with guilt > but that Lil would feel guilty. At this point, I'm rooting for Darrah. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNRZBp026732 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:27:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00217C29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:24:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:24:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNOtm05043 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:24:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNO1KX006349 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:24:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:25:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1126376698.20031212172512@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031212205503.8596.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> <161620103.20031212104553@WordWrite.com> <20031212205503.8596.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I've found that it usually balances out with sales tax -- i.e., that what I > have to pay for shipping is about the same as what I'd have to pay in sales > tax if bought locally. $6 on a $20 item is 30%. Is your sales tax that high?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:27:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNRnBp026746 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:27:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A523@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:09 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNP9m05084 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212232503.FUIZ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA4E51.2000906@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:25:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031211220645.00bc3ec0@pop.gwi.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031212084555.00b72e40@pop.gwi.net> <20031212204641.7594.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <15610108930.20031212172152@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <15610108930.20031212172152@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > At this point, I'm rooting for Darrah. Me too. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:28:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNSwBp026768 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:28:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A526@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNQIm05136 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNQHrm014260 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > How is a vaporizer different from a humidifier? I saw a cute little thing > in Walgreens yesterday that was a vaporizer -- needs no filling. But I > thought I might get tired of the Vicksy smell. Some humiidfiers are cold heat. Btw, vaporizers made by Vicks have no "Vicksy smell". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:29:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNTFBp026772 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:29:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A50C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:35 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNQYm05154 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212232629.FUWJ1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA4EA7.1050107@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:26:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <2ca72c2c979f.2c979f2ca72c@optonline.net> <161620103.20031212104553@WordWrite.com> <20031212205503.8596.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1126376698.20031212172512@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1126376698.20031212172512@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > $6 on a $20 item is 30%. Is your sales tax that high?! No, but I rarely order $20 items unless they're bundled with other items. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNVFBp026836 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:31:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A513@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:28:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:28:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNSSm05345 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:28:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212232823.FVMS1876.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:28:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:28:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Some humiidfiers are cold heat. Btw, vaporizers made by Vicks have no > "Vicksy smell". Cold heat? Why would one want cold heat? Re the vaporizer smell, I got the impression it would be a Vicksy smell (not that I'm positive what that is) because of the way it was described. I've forgotten now exactly what it said -- something about menthol or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:32:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNWhBp026845 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:32:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A53C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:30:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:30:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNU3m05626 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:30:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217C6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:30:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312122330.hBCNU3m05626@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:30:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:28:24 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >> Some humiidfiers are cold heat. Btw, vaporizers made by Vicks have no >> "Vicksy smell". > >Cold heat? Why would one want cold heat? Re the vaporizer smell, I got >the impression it would be a Vicksy smell (not that I'm positive what >that is) because of the way it was described. I've forgotten now >exactly what it said -- something about menthol or whatever. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) You have the option of adding "Vaporub" or other menthol yourself. Cold fine water mist, not cold heat. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:33:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNXfBp026865 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:33:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A542@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:31:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:31:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNV1m05763 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:31:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNV06X008614 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:31:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:31:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <536113777.20031212173122@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212173538.025479c0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212173538.025479c0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I've often wondered about this. How do you know when you have > pneumonia? You know; it's the unmistakable feeling of being suffocated. > I mean when would one get worried enough to go to a doctor and > have her do pneumonia tests? They generally do xrays. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:39:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNdnBp026914 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:39:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A567@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:37:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:37:09 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNb9m06742 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:37:09 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNb86X014117 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <642185768.20031212173730@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212175226.02553390@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212175226.02553390@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I had a high school history > teacher who firmly believed that coughing was utterly unnecessary. What an ass! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:41:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNfIBp026979 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:41:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A553@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:38:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:38:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNccm06817 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:38:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNbhKX018231 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:37:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:38:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> Some humiidfiers are cold heat. Btw, vaporizers made by Vicks have no >> "Vicksy smell". > Cold heat? Why would one want cold heat? Sorry, cold vapor. > Re the vaporizer smell, I got > the impression it would be a Vicksy smell (not that I'm positive what > that is) because of the way it was described. I've forgotten now > exactly what it said -- something about menthol or whatever. You can buy menthol stuff to put in them, but it's not required. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:42:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNgjBp026997 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:42:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217CAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 787992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:40:06 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNe5m07002 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:40:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNe46X016941 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:40:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:40:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <166996181.20031212174021@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Survivor Final Four In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165717.025482f8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031212165717.025482f8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > When a 50-year-old woman can't sleep at night, she might very likely > wonder if it's stress or if it's menopause. When her legs and arms > burn so that she has to put her feet in the water, she might well > wonder if it's some new and hideous form of hot flashes. I never wonder either of those things. But then, I'm not 50 any more. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:47:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNleBp027095 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:47:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 788164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:45:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNixm07600 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:45:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNiw6X021665 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:44:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:45:21 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <137340242.20031212174521@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Final Four In-Reply-To: <000d01c3c0f6$c4fe6500$fe928744@computer> References: <000d01c3c0f6$c4fe6500$fe928744@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Brad Grissom wrote: > My favorite is Darrah; unlike Natalie, I am for her precisely > because she is backwoods Mississippi. She hasn't had much camera > time until her recent trifecta in the immunity challenges (and > the dwindling pool of survivors too, of course). It's as if the > show is somehow embarrassed by her drawl and the lack of drama in > her answers and her ho-hum participation in the various > intrigues. She won't win, but I likes her much. It's that prejudice against Southerners that's so rampant in the media. > Ways of talking: I like Sandra's saucy one, Gosh! She is an unmitigated bitch. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:50:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNoiBp027140 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:50:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A570@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:48:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 788283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:48:04 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNm4m07901 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:48:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031212234759.MKUN1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:47:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:48:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>Re the vaporizer smell, I got >>the impression it would be a Vicksy smell (not that I'm positive what >>that is) because of the way it was described. I've forgotten now >>exactly what it said -- something about menthol or whatever. > > You can buy menthol stuff to put in them, but it's not required. It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 17:57:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBCNvWBp027235 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:57:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A57E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:54:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 788450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:54:52 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBCNspm08336 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:54:51 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCNsnbV803010 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:50 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:54:49 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Alert for Natalie In-Reply-To: <157.299e66e4.2d0ba394@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <157.299e66e4.2d0ba394@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> I'm waiting (unfortunately) for someone to come >> out with a "'new' interpretation" of: >> [] Soylent Green etc. > The Prisoner. Snort. They could hire David Lynch to make it even more incomprehensible than the original. -- xiS tegdiM > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > don't know why we're paying so much > for rent if they can't keep the walks free > of ice! > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 18:03:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD034Bp027361 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:03:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A58F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:00:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 788641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD00Om09116 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBCNxTKX006267 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:59:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:00:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <247322944.20031212180042@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>Re the vaporizer smell, I got >>>the impression it would be a Vicksy smell (not that I'm positive what >>>that is) because of the way it was described. I've forgotten now >>>exactly what it said -- something about menthol or whatever. >> >> You can buy menthol stuff to put in them, but it's not required. > It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or > whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. If there's no water, what vaporizes? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 18:12:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD0CCBp027532 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:12:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A5BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:09:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 789015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:09:32 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD09Wm09980 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:09:32 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.59.12b66fb (24895) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:09:19 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <59.12b66fb.2d0bb2af@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:09:19 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Survivor Alert for Natalie To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/12/2003 5:55:11 PM Central Standard Time, rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU writes: << Snort. They could hire David Lynch to make it even more incomprehensible than the original. >> No, I was thinking more Kevin Sorbo; it sounds like a project he would try. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com don't know why we're paying so much for rent if they can't keep the walks free of ice! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 18:25:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD0POBp027695 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217D3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:22:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 789329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:22:43 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD0Mhm11821 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:22:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213002238.OUUA29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:22:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> <247322944.20031212180042@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <247322944.20031212180042@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or >>whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. > > If there's no water, what vaporizes? Stuff like menthol and eucalyptus leaves, I guess. Meanwhile, I hope Spencer doesn't say anything important to me tonight. My ears are so stopped up that I just barely heard the telephone ringing two feet from me a little while ago. I thought I was imagining it at first, put my ear right on top of the phone, and ascertained that it was indeed ringing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 18:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD0SNBp027751 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:28:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A5DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:25:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 789399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:25:43 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD0Pgm12209 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:25:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.161.42]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213002537.OVZH29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:25:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDA5C83.2080901@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> <247322944.20031212180042@WordWrite.com> <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > >>> It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or >>> whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. >> >> >> If there's no water, what vaporizes? > > Stuff like menthol and eucalyptus leaves, I guess. Meanwhile, I hope I just googled for it and found this description of how it works: ****************** The Vicks Waterless Vaporizer works by heat activating the soothing Vicks menthol vapors in the scent pad and releasing them into the air. No water is necessary, perfect for humid areas or when dry air is not a problem. ****************** from: http://www.drugstore.com/qxp85432_333181_sespider/vicks/waterless_vaporizer.htm What's its point if its perfect for humid areas or when dry air is not a problem? I thought the whole point was about dry air. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 18:41:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD0fABp027952 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:41:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217D6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:38:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 789756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:38:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD0cTm14190 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:38:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD0cMrm013922 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:38:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:38:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <349382734.20031212183845@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> <247322944.20031212180042@WordWrite.com> <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or >>>whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. >> >> If there's no water, what vaporizes? > Stuff like menthol and eucalyptus leaves, I guess. I sincerely doubt it. > Meanwhile, I hope > Spencer doesn't say anything important to me tonight. My ears are so > stopped up that I just barely heard the telephone ringing two feet from > me a little while ago. I thought I was imagining it at first, put my > ear right on top of the phone, and ascertained that it was indeed ringing. I hope so, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 18:42:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD0g3Bp027966 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:42:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A611@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:39:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 789797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:39:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD0dMm14276 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:39:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD0cRKX008466 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:38:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:39:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1094671774.20031212183943@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <3FDA5C83.2080901@maynor.net> References: <200312121708.hBCH8Md31277@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031212205731.8906.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <1737583867.20031212172629@WordWrite.com> <3FDA4F18.8080809@maynor.net> <73300534.20031212173859@WordWrite.com> <3FDA53B0.7090900@maynor.net> <247322944.20031212180042@WordWrite.com> <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> <3FDA5C83.2080901@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>> It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or >>>> whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. >>> >>> >>> If there's no water, what vaporizes? >> >> Stuff like menthol and eucalyptus leaves, I guess. Meanwhile, I hope > I just googled for it and found this description of how it works: > ****************** > The Vicks Waterless Vaporizer works by heat activating the soothing > Vicks menthol vapors in the scent pad and releasing them into the air. > No water is necessary, perfect for humid areas or when dry air is not a > problem. > ****************** > from: > http://www.drugstore.com/qxp85432_333181_sespider/vicks/waterless_vaporizer.htm > What's its point if its perfect for humid areas or when dry air is not a > problem? I thought the whole point was about dry air. Some people only use a vaporizer when they are congested. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:07:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD27IBp029086 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:07:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A6FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD24bm20946 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBD24brW027173 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBD24biN028788 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:04:37 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:06:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <970066265.1071263193@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312121342.hBCDgid28575@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Have any of you tried adding a humidifier to rooms you're in? > clo, just curious Yes, at home we run one quite often, although it isn't running right now. Quite often a vaporizer runs upstairs while we are sleeping. My father has run a humidifier for a few years, but with no noticeable loss in hand cracking. For me it is an overall skin condition. It is not unusual in winter for me to have skin so itchy I want to crawl out of it. I have to be careful what types of soaps I use so they don't dry me out. I find many of the moisturizing soaps have lots of fragrance in them that bothers me. Some soaps and lotions will actually make my eyes water. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2AWBp029104 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:10:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A702@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:07:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:07:51 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD27pm21182 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:07:51 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBD27prW027228 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:07:51 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBD27piN029128 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:07:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:09:47 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <970260328.1071263387@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77952@EXCHSRVR1> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77952@EXCHSRVR1> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Friday, December 12, 2003 12:35 PM -0500 Phil Paxton wrote: > Speaking of which, has anyone tried any of the various recipes floating > about the 'net for Silly Putty? Yes, I have successfully used the one with liquid starch and glue in a 1:1 ratio. I've never tried the Borax, water and glue one but believe that one was used at the kid's school fair. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:18:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2IUBp029213 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:18:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A6FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:15:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:15:49 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBD2Fnm21948 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:15:49 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:15:43 PST Message-ID: <20031213021543.42304.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:15:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <536113777.20031212173122@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: > > I've often wondered about this. How do you know > when you have > > pneumonia? > > You know; it's the unmistakable feeling of being > suffocated. > > > I mean when would one get worried enough to go to > a doctor and > > have her do pneumonia tests? > > They generally do xrays. Most doctors I've had experience of can tell by listening to your lungs. > > Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2ODBp029287 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:24:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A712@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:21:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:21:31 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBD2LVm22320 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:21:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:21:25 PST Message-ID: <20031213022125.63693.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:21:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDA5BCF.6030204@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Stuff like menthol and eucalyptus leaves, I guess. > Meanwhile, I hope > Spencer doesn't say anything important to me > tonight. Just in case, provide him with pen and pad. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:27:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2RNBp029381 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:27:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A706@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:24:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:24:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD2Ogm22617 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:24:42 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.ac.4d27cee2 (3996) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:24:30 EST Subject: The name To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did anyone hear yet what the name of the newest Dutch princes is? Not that it probably is of great interest in this country, but I visited a dutch board recently, and found out. Catharina-Amalia Beatrix Carmen Victoria, Some mouthful, huh? The members of the board made a lot of fun with it; we aren't all that impressed with royalty; that's for sure! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:31:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2V0Bp029467 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:31:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00217EAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:28:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:27:35 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBD2RZm22835 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:27:35 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:27:30 PST Message-ID: <20031213022730.88939.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The name To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > Did anyone hear yet what the name of the newest > Dutch princes is? > Not that it probably is of great interest in this > country, but I visited a > dutch board recently, and found out. > Catharina-Amalia Beatrix Carmen Victoria, > Some mouthful, huh? The members of the board made a > lot of fun with it; we > aren't all that impressed with royalty; that's for > sure! Theo I love it except for the Carmen, which I find out of place with the others. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:45:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2j5Bp029650 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:45:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A73A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 792999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD2gNm23903 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00217EC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200312130242.hBD2gNm23903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:23 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:31:22 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 12, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> I've often wondered about this. How do you know when you have >> pneumonia? > >You know; it's the unmistakable feeling of being suffocated. > Not everyone knows; I had a boss who landed in the hospital with double pneumonia after being sick for three weeks. He was yellowskinned and could barely stand, but it hadn't occurred to him that he might be having trouble breathing. >> I mean when would one get worried enough to go to a doctor and >> have her do pneumonia tests? > >They generally do xrays. > >Karen Yep, I've had those a couple of times. There may also be some other labwork. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 20:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD2m8Bp029709 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:48:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A747@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:45:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:45:27 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD2jRm24237 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:45:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A72C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:45:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200312130245.hBD2jRm24237@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:45:26 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:25:39 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>> It's built in with the one I was looking at. The little pads or >>>> whatever they are emit menthol stuff. No water is involved. >>> >>> >>> If there's no water, what vaporizes? >> >> Stuff like menthol and eucalyptus leaves, I guess. Meanwhile, I hope > >I just googled for it and found this description of how it works: > >****************** >The Vicks Waterless Vaporizer works by heat activating the soothing >Vicks menthol vapors in the scent pad and releasing them into the air. >No water is necessary, perfect for humid areas or when dry air is not a >problem. >****************** >from: >http://www.drugstore.com/qxp85432_333181_sespider/vicks/waterless_vaporizer.htm > >What's its point if its perfect for humid areas or when dry air is not a >problem? I thought the whole point was about dry air. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Some humidifiers (room humidifiers) are about making dry air less dry in a general way. Others are about providing moist air to make it easier to breathe when sick. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:14:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3EQBp030094 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:14:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A77B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:11:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:11:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:U5bU2ifsxYu6IUl/6H3sA3U0r7dbTzbd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3Bhm26223 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:11:43 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4912FE34 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5710723349 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:11:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <615948489.20031212114430@WordWrite.com> References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:11:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm surprised at your extravagance! Get a No-Crack product, put that >on at night, then put cotton socks on. It will make a difference. > >Karen Whenever I read "No-Crack product", I think of something like this: http://tinyurl.com/z1c1 or this: http://www.cracknomore.com/pictures.htm Ken Miller Sartorial Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:17:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3HwBp030203 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:17:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A796@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:15:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:15:16 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3FGm26538 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:15:16 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 92EDD2B8F1; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671952B689 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:15:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:15:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The name In-Reply-To: <20031213022730.88939.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > I love it except for the Carmen, which I find out of > place with the others. I disagree. I particularly like the combo "Carmen Victoria." Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:27:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3R2Bp030299 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:27:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7A7AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 793893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:24:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3EKm26466 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:14:20 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBD3D5Ii008989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:13:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:14:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Bookrat wrote: >Whenever I read "No-Crack product", I think of something like this: > >http://tinyurl.com/z1c1 > >or this: > >http://www.cracknomore.com/pictures.htm But you could be looking at this: http://www.nocrack.com/ Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:38:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3cCBp030575 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:38:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A7A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:35:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:35:31 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3ZUm28086 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:35:30 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD3ZT6X000545 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:35:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:35:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Bookrat wrote: >>I'm surprised at your extravagance! Get a No-Crack product, put that >>on at night, then put cotton socks on. It will make a difference. >> >>Karen > Whenever I read "No-Crack product", I think of something like this: > http://tinyurl.com/z1c1 > or this: > http://www.cracknomore.com/pictures.htm > Ken Miller > Sartorial Correspondent > The Lostin Times It's Bethany's term; I'd never use it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:43:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3hYBp030643 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:43:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A7D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBD3eqm28519 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:40:52 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:40:36 PST Message-ID: <20031213034036.85135.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > Whenever I read "No-Crack product", I think of > something like this: > > http://tinyurl.com/z1c1 > > or this: > > http://www.cracknomore.com/pictures.htm Wise crack. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:44:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3ixBp030680 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:44:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:42:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3gHm28785 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:42:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD3gB6X005392 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:42:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <812159638.20031212214234@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312130242.hBD2gNm23903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312130242.hBD2gNm23903@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Not everyone knows; I had a boss who landed in the hospital with double > pneumonia after being sick for three weeks. He was yellowskinned and > could barely stand, but it hadn't occurred to him that he might be having > trouble breathing. When I had pneumonia, I happened to read a book called "Autobiography of a Face" in which the author talked about trying to give herself pneumonia so she wouldn't have to have chemotherapy (for bone cancer in her jaw). She would fill the bathtub, and immerse her face in it, trying to inhale the water. I cannot imagine the feelings that led her to do this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3n0Bp030753 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7A7DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:46:18 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3kIm29132 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:46:18 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 535562B8EE; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FAC2B8E7 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:46:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:46:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <812159638.20031212214234@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > in her jaw). She would fill the bathtub, and immerse her face in it, > trying to inhale the water. > > I cannot imagine the feelings that led her to do this. Omigod Karen this is the worst thing I ever read on this service. STOP IT Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:52:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3qJBp030800 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:52:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A7CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:49:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:49:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3nbm29470 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:49:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD3narm020577 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:49:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:49:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <176188892.20031212214959@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> in her jaw). She would fill the bathtub, and immerse her face in it, >> trying to inhale the water. >> >> I cannot imagine the feelings that led her to do this. > Omigod Karen this is the worst thing I ever read on this service. > STOP IT Why is it the worst thing you ever read on this service? Discuss. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:53:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3r1Bp030803 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:53:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7A7D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:50:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 794784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:50:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3oKm29549 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:50:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD3oI6X011140 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:50:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:50:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1181708108.20031212215042@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 12, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> in her jaw). She would fill the bathtub, and immerse her face in it, >> trying to inhale the water. >> >> I cannot imagine the feelings that led her to do this. > Omigod Karen this is the worst thing I ever read on this service. > STOP IT Actually, if you haven't read this book, I highly recommend it. This particular thing is only a small part of the book. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 21:57:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD3vcBp030871 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:57:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00218119@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 795023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD3sum30022 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:54:56 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E35CB2B588; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31922B574 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:54:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:54:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <176188892.20031212214959@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > Omigod Karen this is the worst thing I ever read on this service. > > > STOP IT > > Why is it the worst thing you ever read on this service? Discuss. I can't discuss it because I have no memory of the other worst things. In fact, I will forget this in the next 60 seconds. You know how you can erase an ETCH-A-SKETCH so fast and so satisfyingly blank? Well, my so called memory dumps stuff that's really really bad, really fast. God knows where it goes. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 12 23:02:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD52TBp031772 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:02:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7AAF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:59:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 800972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:59:46 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD4xjm05101 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:59:45 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBD4xivP024596 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:59:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDA9C5E.4040200@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:58:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <18e.238c9391.2d0ab10a@aol.com> <20031212073020.GA9444@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Theo Groothof: > = In a message dated 12/11/2003 5:27:32 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > = > = > I don't. I tend to use small toys like koosh balls, > = >beanbags, silly putty, etc. > = > > = I can't believe this is going on in class. I know I preferred to pay > = attention, because if I didn't, I'd fail my tests, and find a bad mark on my report > = card, and I'd get serious complaints at home. :-{ > = Theo > > Theo, > > You just don't get it! Haven't you been following the > conversation at all? Rita is helping these kids get better marks > by putting something into their hands. They don't know how to > cope with being distracted and having to pay attention. So that > is part of what Rita is teaching them. Theo doesn't understand any experience that doesn't directly correlate with her own. She's incapable of any sort of empathy at all. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 00:26:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD6QdBp000815 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:26:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218586@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:23:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:23:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD6Num12178 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:23:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBD6MvKX020876 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:23:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:24:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <658572002.20031213002411@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <12b.374b8675.2d0c092e@aol.com> References: <12b.374b8675.2d0c092e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/12/2003 8:42:41 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >>How do you know when you have >>>> pneumonia? >>> >>>You know; it's the unmistakable feeling of being suffocated. >>> > It wasn't all that long ago that Alyce died from it, remember? Funny, in my memory Alyce died from lung cancer. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 00:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD6TCBp000892 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:29:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7AD16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:16:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:16:28 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD6GSm11736 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:16:28 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.4b.37cf4887 (4426) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:16:19 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <4b.37cf4887.2d0c08b3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:16:19 EST Subject: Re: The name To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/12/2003 8:28:31 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >I love it except for the Carmen, which I find out of >place with the others. > I have no idea where the Carmen relates to, either. Perhaps it's from the daddy's side. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 00:29:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD6TCBq000892 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:29:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7AD0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:18:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:18:31 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD6IVm11821 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:18:31 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.12b.374b8675 (4426) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:18:22 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.374b8675.2d0c092e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:18:22 EST Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/12/2003 8:42:41 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: >How do you know when you have >>> pneumonia? >> >>You know; it's the unmistakable feeling of being suffocated. >> It wasn't all that long ago that Alyce died from it, remember? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 00:31:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD6VdBp000947 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:31:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7AD3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 1:28:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 805492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:28:56 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD6Sum12454 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:28:56 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.75.1ea53479 (4426) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <75.1ea53479.2d0c0b9d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:28:45 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/12/2003 11:00:07 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > Theo doesn't understand any experience that doesn't directly >correlate with her own. She's incapable of any sort of >empathy at all. > That's what YOU think! I'm perfectly capable of understanding anything that doesn't relate to my experiences.Just because this country has a miserable educational system, doesn't mean you can toss insults my way, deary. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 01:16:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD7G4Bp001489 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:16:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7AE10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 2:13:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 807495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 02:13:21 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD7DLm16122 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 02:13:21 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.d1.1269a9b (4426) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 02:13:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 02:13:08 EST Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/13/2003 12:24:13 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >Funny, in my memory Alyce died from lung cancer. > >Karen > Well, your memory is wrong. She probably wouldn't have had to lug that oxygen tank with her all the time. Besides, I kept thinking how hard it had to be for her to give up smoking. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 03:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD9NDBp003329 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7AECA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 4:20:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:20:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD9KHm23238 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:20:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBD9KFkF012257 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:20:15 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBD9KC8M012255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:20:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:20:12 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The name Message-ID: <20031213092012.GA12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031213022730.88939.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031213022730.88939.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > Catharina-Amalia Beatrix Carmen Victoria, = = I love it except for the Carmen, which I find out of = place with the others. = Amalia is what they will call her. I don't know why the Catharina is tacked on to the beginning. Beatrix is her paternal grandmother, Carmen is her maternal grandmother, and if I recall what the prince said correctly, "Victoria means victory". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 03:41:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBD9fkBp003575 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:41:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218734@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 4:38:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 809457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:38:55 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBD9csm23937 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:38:54 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBD9cokF012277 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:38:50 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBD9cnRf012275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:38:49 +0100 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:38:49 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031213093849.GB12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's my text. Someone please throw a manipulative towards my head the next time I set her off. It seems so logical when I hit the send button. But it has such predictable results. Phil Paxton: = > -----Original Message----- = > From: Theo Groothof [mailto:Dutchessg1@AOL.COM] = > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:11 PM = > To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting = > = > = > In a message dated 12/12/2003 11:38:09 AM, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: = > = > >> You just don't get it! Haven't you been following the = > > conversation at all? Rita is helping these kids get better marks = > > by putting something into their hands. They don't know how to = > > cope with being distracted and having to pay attention. So that = > > is part of what Rita is teaching them. = > -------------------- = > > I most definitely DO get it. When my oldest went to = > highschool, she wasn't = > allowed to take French because she "already" took 5 subjects. = > Do you people = > have any idea how many subjects we had to take without ANY = > choices? We also had = > classes from 9AM to 4PM except Tuesday, Thursday, and = > Saturday which were half = > day classes until 2PM. Is it any wonder Americans can't spell? = > BTW, this dau is a french teacher today! Spanish, too. So I assume you = > understand that if we didn't pay attention, we'd pay the = > consequences! No serious = > student would appreciate having to repeat a year. Theo = > >> = = I think there's some problems with attributes there...I've not disagreed = with what Rita is doing and I don't have any kids. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 06:10:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDCAhBp005407 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 06:10:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002187E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 7:07:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 811505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:07:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDC7vm30556 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:07:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDC7teO024195 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:07:56 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDC7sa2024188; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:07:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213040915.00b728c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:10:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:13 AM 12/13/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote: >In a message dated 12/13/2003 12:24:13 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > > >Funny, in my memory Alyce died from lung cancer. > > > >Karen > > >Well, your memory is wrong. She probably wouldn't have had to lug that oxygen >tank with her all the time. Besides, I kept thinking how hard it had to be >for her to give up smoking. >Theo Theo, maybe your computer wasn't working and you were off line when she told us about the lung cancer. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 07:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDDn3Bp006722 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002188D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 8:32:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:32:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDDMpm01964 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:22:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDDLXIi024267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:21:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:22:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Hi Dear ! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who teaches pragmatics to these cockroaches? The header above preceded the usual spam: Subject: Hi Dear ! Hello., I am Mr salik Abdul,Company Secretary of Standard TrustBank Plc. Four years ago a customer of ours,Mr John Norman,who worked with a multinational here in Nigeria died mysteriously and he was Irish by nationality. He left in his account a huge sum of money in foreign currency ($12.2million united state dollars). etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 07:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDDn3Bp006723 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002188D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 8:34:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 813123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:34:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDDOum02047 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:24:56 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDDNeIi025002 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:23:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:24:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >It's Bethany's term; I'd never use it. Careful - it is a registered mark. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 08:23:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDENYBp007160 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:23:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B0AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 9:20:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 814140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:20:48 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDEKmm05083 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:20:48 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-45.gwi.net [216.195.157.45]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBDEKk57062968 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:20:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213091757.00b2fb10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:18:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <12b.374b8675.2d0c092e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>>How do you know when you have pneumonia? > > >>You know; it's the unmistakable feeling of being suffocated. > >It wasn't all that long ago that Alyce died from it, remember? >Theo Alyce died of lung cancer. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 09:06:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDF69Bp007670 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:06:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B125@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:03:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 815058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:03:22 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDF3Mm07973 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:03:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDF3LVI009556 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:03:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDB29E5.9030008@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:01:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> <20031213093849.GB12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > It's my text. Someone please throw a manipulative towards my > head the next time I set her off. It seems so logical when I > hit the send button. But it has such predictable results. Indeed. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 09:13:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDFDSBp007784 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:13:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B12F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:10:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 815247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:10:41 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDFAfm08568 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:10:41 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDFAd4j005355 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:10:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDB2B9C.9050408@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:09:16 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hurray for Peter Jennings References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77963@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] >>Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:35 PM >> > > >>PLEASE, do not contract the flu. >> > > They've been closing schools here in Indy. I don't know what percentage it > takes (varying from school corporation to corporation) but it's happening. > > What's interesting (in a bad way) is to watch the news. They've got a > "Visiting Nurse Service" which has been moving through the city from region > to region. I think last night they announced yesterday's session was going > to be 6:00am-noon. People were lining up at 3:30am with their kids to try > to ensure they'd been vaccinated. There were people who arrived at the > "official" opening time who were waiting so long they didn't get jabbed. > I've mentioned this (being there at the "official open" and missing) on > other days, but 3:30am ??? > > It seems like they almost need to ask the schools to take a census from the > students at registration time to see how many want the vaccine. About a half dozen districts in my area have cancelled classes because of the flu (funding from the state is determined in part by attendence, and flu outbreaks can be bad for the bottom line). I've had a lot of kids out the past couple of weeks, which is bad timing since we're doing our major research paper right now, but what can you do. I'm still holding on, knock on wood. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 09:16:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDFGPBp007848 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:16:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B122@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:13:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 815302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:13:39 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDFDdm08760 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:13:39 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDFDc4j015040 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:13:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDB2C4E.1010907@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:12:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <75.1ea53479.2d0c0b9d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/12/2003 11:00:07 PM, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: > > >> Theo doesn't understand any experience that doesn't directly >>correlate with her own. She's incapable of any sort of >>empathy at all. >> >> > That's what YOU think! I'm perfectly capable of understanding anything that > doesn't relate to my experiences.Just because this country has a miserable > educational system, doesn't mean you can toss insults my way, deary. How does your daughter feel when you insult and denigrate her profession? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 10:18:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDGIKBp008542 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:18:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B1C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:15:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:15:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1DpU/Oabap2kW2RzWfG/qlN9mdAPAQHb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDGFXm12933 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:15:33 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DA92FE1F for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF75D23346 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:15:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031213093849.GB12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:15:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 1:38 AM -0800 12/13/03, steph wrote: >It's my text. Someone please throw a manipulative towards my >head the next time I set her off. It seems so logical when I >hit the send button. But it has such predictable results. There are some people with whom it is simply not possible to have a rational discussion; with a little experience, it becomes relatively easy to tell who they are. A word to the wise. Ken Miller Paul Stone School of Interpersonal Dynamics From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 10:26:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDGQvBp008690 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:26:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B1C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:24:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 816894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:24:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDGOAm13424 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:24:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDGO86X006409 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:24:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:24:30 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1257178949.20031213102430@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/13/2003 12:24:13 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >>Funny, in my memory Alyce died from lung cancer. >> >>Karen >> > Well, your memory is wrong. Theo, you are so full of shit your eyes are brown. > She probably wouldn't have had to lug that oxygen > tank with her all the time. That was because she had COPD. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 10:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDGqkBp009054 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:52:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B1F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:49:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:49:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDGnxm14959 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:49:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDGnvW1027959 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:49:58 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDGnuWq027920 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:49:57 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:52:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:49 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>At 07:37 PM 11/30/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>>OK, first quick shot at a 'fest page: >>> >>>http://www.etext.org/~rita/fest.html Red Roof Inn shows $46.99 per night Hampton Inn is $62.00 The English Inn is $85 or $150 for two nights. Planning ahead. I haven't checked flights yet. Ken, can you put in your vacation time? I really miss you at these things. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 10:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDGtQBp009086 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218A84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:52:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 817635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:52:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDGqdm15134 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:52:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDGqc6X027878 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:52:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:53:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>It's Bethany's term; I'd never use it. > Careful - it is a registered mark. Then why didn't you indicate that? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:40:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHecBp009710 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:40:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:37:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:37:51 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHbom18063 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:37:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213173745.BPQT29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:37:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Alec Spoke The Truth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There was indeed a paraffin thingy at the photography counter in Walgreens being held for Alec. Problem was that it wasn't a little one -- it was the hand/foot size. I told the nice young woman the story and told her she could put it back on the shelf. I went there this morning in search of snot medicine. It was a big decision of whether to go outside in the totally disgusting weather -- cold rain -- or stay inside and wallow in snot. I decided that I couldn't stand the snot and the stuffed, aching ears another minute, so I did head out into the cold rain. (I had used up some old snot medicine that I'd found in my bathroom with an expiration date in the early '90s.) There are sure lots of cold products on the shelves. Since I couldn't decide what I had, I looked for something more general -- not something that specified head cold or chest cold or flu. I got Robitussin(sp?), a name that I've heard somewhere in my life, probably a tv ad. I got it because it said for "colds and flu" -- nothing narrow. I would've gotten Comtrex because I remember discovering it years ago when I had a cold and finding it worked great, but it has become too specialized -- I didn't know what kind of Comtrex to buy. Anyway, I'm back in my warm house, where I plan to stay. No more ventures out into the rain. I also bought some ear drops but am not sure they're doing anything. My toilet has quit flushing. I discovered the plastic thing that lifts the little lid is broken. I tried a few minutes ago replacing it with a piece of wire. It will now flush, but it won't stop flushing -- it will open the lid but won't close it. I'm going to live with it for now. I just can't get into plumbing right now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:44:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHieBp009777 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:44:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B27C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:41:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:41:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHfqm18278 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:41:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDHfo6X005220 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:41:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:42:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1897518956.20031213114213@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > There was indeed a paraffin thingy at the photography counter in > Walgreens being held for Alec. Problem was that it wasn't a little one > -- it was the hand/foot size. Was it still $20? > My toilet has quit flushing. I discovered the plastic thing that lifts > the little lid is broken. I tried a few minutes ago replacing it with a > piece of wire. It will now flush, but it won't stop flushing -- it will > open the lid but won't close it. I'm going to live with it for now. I > just can't get into plumbing right now. ARgh. My sympathies. I hate when my house revolts when I'm sick or too poor to fix it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:46:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHkMBp009816 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:46:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B27E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:43:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:43:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHhYm18382 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:43:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDHhXW1028366 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:43:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDHhVWq028358 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:43:32 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:46:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry that you aren't feeling well, Natalie. Stay in. Force fluids and please don't talk about snot anymore unless you are referring to someone. That was TMI. Push the lid closed with your hand and it will stay. You can deal with it later. If it's yellow, let it mellow. Betty At 11:37 AM 12/13/2003 -0600, you wrote: >There was indeed a paraffin thingy at the photography counter in >Walgreens being held for Alec. Problem was that it wasn't a little one >-- it was the hand/foot size. I told the nice young woman the story and >told her she could put it back on the shelf. I went there this morning >in search of snot medicine. It was a big decision of whether to go >outside in the totally disgusting weather -- cold rain -- or stay inside >and wallow in snot. I decided that I couldn't stand the snot and the >stuffed, aching ears another minute, so I did head out into the cold >rain. (I had used up some old snot medicine that I'd found in my >bathroom with an expiration date in the early '90s.) There are sure >lots of cold products on the shelves. Since I couldn't decide what I >had, I looked for something more general -- not something that specified >head cold or chest cold or flu. I got Robitussin(sp?), a name that I've >heard somewhere in my life, probably a tv ad. I got it because it said >for "colds and flu" -- nothing narrow. I would've gotten Comtrex >because I remember discovering it years ago when I had a cold and >finding it worked great, but it has become too specialized -- I didn't >know what kind of Comtrex to buy. Anyway, I'm back in my warm house, >where I plan to stay. No more ventures out into the rain. I also >bought some ear drops but am not sure they're doing anything. > >My toilet has quit flushing. I discovered the plastic thing that lifts >the little lid is broken. I tried a few minutes ago replacing it with a >piece of wire. It will now flush, but it won't stop flushing -- it will >open the lid but won't close it. I'm going to live with it for now. I >just can't get into plumbing right now. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:47:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHlHBp009824 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:47:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:44:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 818959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:44:29 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHiTm18430 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:44:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213174424.BSCN29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB4FFA.4020909@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:44:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Red Roof Inn shows $46.99 per night > > Hampton Inn is $62.00 > > The English Inn is $85 or $150 for two nights. So what are you leaning toward? I'm not interested in The English Inn. Am weighing thoughts of the RRI and the HI. I bet the HI has better breakfast, though I may be wrong. And I bet it's more likely to have free net access in the lobby. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHsfBp009904 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:54:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218B18@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:51:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:51:53 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHprm18848 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:51:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213175148.BUNT29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB51B6.2010709@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:51:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <1897518956.20031213114213@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1897518956.20031213114213@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>There was indeed a paraffin thingy at the photography counter in >>Walgreens being held for Alec. Problem was that it wasn't a little one >>-- it was the hand/foot size. > > Was it still $20? I didn't inquire. I assume it was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:57:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHvhBp009948 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:57:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B2AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:54:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:54:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHstm18980 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:54:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDHsseO024657 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:54:54 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDHsra2024626; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:54:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:57:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FDB4FFA.4020909@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:44 AM 12/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>Red Roof Inn shows $46.99 per night >> >>Hampton Inn is $62.00 >> >>The English Inn is $85 or $150 for two nights. > >So what are you leaning toward? I'm not interested in The English Inn. > Am weighing thoughts of the RRI and the HI. I bet the HI has better >breakfast, though I may be wrong. And I bet it's more likely to have >free net access in the lobby. Let's go for the Red Roof and stay an extra day. I just looked at prices. We can eat breakfast at Rita's before we go out on the river. Are you driving? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 11:58:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDHwsBp009975 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:58:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B2B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:56:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:56:00 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHtxm19083 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:55:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213175554.BVSJ29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:55:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB52AC.2020406@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:55:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > please don't talk about snot anymore unless you are referring to > someone. That was TMI. Heavens. I thought one in the medical profession would find snot-talk quite . > Push the lid closed with your hand and it will stay. You can deal with it > later. If it's yellow, let it mellow. Yes, pushing it closed works fine, but it also works fine to use the other bathroom, though it is a very cold bathroom, being on the north end of the house and without any heating vents. I may leave the toilet broken and go on and buy all new fixtures for that bathroom, which is something I've been meaning to do anyway. The problem is in finding somebody to install them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:00:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDI0SBp010009 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:00:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B2B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:57:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:57:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHvem19198 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:57:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDHvd6X017355 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:57:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:58:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1006564923.20031213115800@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB51B6.2010709@maynor.net> References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <1897518956.20031213114213@WordWrite.com> <3FDB51B6.2010709@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>There was indeed a paraffin thingy at the photography counter in >>>Walgreens being held for Alec. Problem was that it wasn't a little one >>>-- it was the hand/foot size. >> >> Was it still $20? > I didn't inquire. I assume it was. That's amazingly cheap for such a large one. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:02:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDI24Bp010026 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:02:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B2A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:17 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHxHm19273 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213175912.BWSE29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB5371.3020007@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:59:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Let's go for the Red Roof and stay an extra day. I just looked at prices. > We can eat breakfast at Rita's before we go out on the river. Are you > driving? Sounds good to me. I noticed that the RRI welcomes dogs. Maybe Spencer should come. I think not, though. Yes, I'm driving. I don't know exactly how long it takes to drive from here to St. Louis but know it's an easy drive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:02:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDI2YBp010031 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:02:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B2BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDHxkm19310 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDHxj6X018756 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:59:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:00:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <27656657.20031213120006@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB52AC.2020406@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB52AC.2020406@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Yes, pushing it closed works fine, but it also works fine to use the > other bathroom, though it is a very cold bathroom, being on the north > end of the house and without any heating vents. Neither of my bathrooms have any vents at all. It's the only thing I find truly insane about this house. Well, that and the fact that not every room has ceiling fans. > I may leave the toilet > broken and go on and buy all new fixtures for that bathroom, which is > something I've been meaning to do anyway. The problem is in finding > somebody to install them. Surely you could talk to the guy who did the work in your old neighborhood? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:04:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDI4JBp010059 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:04:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B2CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:31 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDI1Vm19488 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213180126.BXIP29800.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB53F8.8030202@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:01:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <1897518956.20031213114213@WordWrite.com> <3FDB51B6.2010709@maynor.net> <1006564923.20031213115800@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1006564923.20031213115800@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>>Was it still $20? > >>I didn't inquire. I assume it was. > > That's amazingly cheap for such a large one. I had noticed it when looking in Wmart -- and was suspicious of it because it was about half the price of the other brands. (It's not huge -- it probably wouldn't hold an extremely large foot. But it's definitely the hand/foot size.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:04:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDI4ZBp010062 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:04:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B2B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:48 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDI1lm19504 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-45.gwi.net [216.195.157.45]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBDI1d57091351 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213130110.00b66008@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <1257178949.20031213102430@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > She probably wouldn't have had to lug that oxygen > > tank with her all the time. > >That was because she had COPD. >Karen And, when asked, Alyce said it wasn't all that hard to quit smoking once she was on the oxygen. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:09:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDI9dBp010126 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:09:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B2C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:06:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:06:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDI6pm20059 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:06:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDI6o2f019869 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:06:50 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDI6mJC019702; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:06:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:09:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB52AC.2020406@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:55 AM 12/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>please don't talk about snot anymore unless you are referring to >>someone. That was TMI. > >Heavens. I thought one in the medical profession would find snot-talk >quite . You may think it's funny but it'snot. (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) Use soft tissue so you don't get a red/raw nose. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIAdBp010142 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00218B79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:07:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDI7pm20169 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:07:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDI7oeO002627 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:07:50 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDI7na2002609; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:07:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213100959.00b83580@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:10:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FDB5371.3020007@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:59 AM 12/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>Let's go for the Red Roof and stay an extra day. I just looked at prices. >>We can eat breakfast at Rita's before we go out on the river. Are you >>driving? > >Sounds good to me. I noticed that the RRI welcomes dogs. Maybe Spencer >should come. I think not, though. Yes, I'm driving. I don't know >exactly how long it takes to drive from here to St. Louis but know it's >an easy drive. Should we have Rita check the joint out? Maybe we can get a group discount. :-) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:20:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIKOBp010269 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:20:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B2F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:17:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:17:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:xIqtMw3bHS752gbI5+vtFCV7K7C8xdOS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIHbm20879 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:17:37 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0330545 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90A23346 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:17:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:17:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Planning ahead. I haven't checked flights yet. Ken, can you put in your >vacation time? I really miss you at these things. > >Betty Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been cooped up on this coast for far too long. Ken Miller Director of Circumnavigation Phileas Fogg School of Recreational Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:23:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDINoBp010320 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:23:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B2FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 819928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:21:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIL2m21048 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:21:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDIK5KX007310 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:20:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:21:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <848928035.20031213122119@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: References: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Bookrat wrote: > Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to > be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been > cooped up on this coast for far too long. Austin is lovely this time of year! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:27:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIR1Bp010350 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:27:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B303@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:14 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIOEm21272 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213182408.YZIQ1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB594A.4040203@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:24:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB52AC.2020406@maynor.net> <27656657.20031213120006@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <27656657.20031213120006@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Surely you could talk to the guy who did the work in your old > neighborhood? Yes, I've hired his people either on his time or moonlighting to do various things. In fact, this dinky little toilet that's now broken is one he sent one of his people out to get for me at a discount place and to come install. And, of course, he's the one who did the total remodeling of the bathroom at my other house, as in gutting it down to bare boards and rebuilding everything. But he likes working on things in his neighborhood better than elsewhere. And I'm thinking that I would like to go to Lowe's and pick out my own stuff, but then I would have to get the stuff here from Columbus. I might explore the Lowe's installation situation. I've always assumed that they would charge a fortune for coming to Starkville, but maybe not. I could go there and buy the three items and have them deliver them and install them. But then I also need to replace some tiles around the bathtub that are scarred from where I took down the glass door. And I might want new floor. Iow, I might want a total remodeling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:27:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIRRBp010357 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:27:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B304@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIOdm21292 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:24:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDIObW1022744 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:24:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDIOaWq022733; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:24:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213102616.00b8d820@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:27:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:17 AM 12/13/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >Planning ahead. I haven't checked flights yet. Ken, can you put in your > >vacation time? I really miss you at these things. > > > >Betty > >Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to >be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been >cooped up on this coast for far too long. Excellent! How did your project turn out that you were working on with that tight time frame? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:28:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDISIBp010363 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:28:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B2FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:25:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:25:31 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIPUm21354 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:25:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213182525.YZTI1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:25:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:25:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Use soft tissue so you don't get a red/raw nose. The snot has subsided somewhat. It's the ears that are the worst. What's the deal on drinking liquids? Why does that help? And does water count? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:30:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIUMBp010401 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:30:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B30A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:35 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIRZm21482 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213182729.ZAMM1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB5A13.8080409@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:27:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100959.00b83580@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213100959.00b83580@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Should we have Rita check the joint out? Maybe we can get a group > discount. :-) She always has so much leisure time on her hands that she would no doubt love such an assignment. I haven't checked the rates myself, but what you said sounded good. I don't think we're likely to get a better rate. (I've also found that group discounts are usually not as good as AARP or gov't employee discounts.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:30:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIUvBp010414 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:30:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B2F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:09 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIS9m21600 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213182804.ZARO1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB5A35.5060800@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:28:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to > be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been > cooped up on this coast for far too long. Sounds like a weiner of a plan!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:31:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIVPBp010422 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B30E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDISbm21613 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDISaW1026074 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:28:36 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDISYWq026041; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:28:35 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:31:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <848928035.20031213122119@WordWrite.com> References: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:21 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Bookrat wrote: > > Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to > > be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been > > cooped up on this coast for far too long. > >Austin is lovely this time of year! > >Karen Road trip is July! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:33:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIXRBp010446 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:33:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B30A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:30:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:30:38 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIUbm21760 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:30:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213183032.ZBLZ1940.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:30:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hey, Brad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are we gonna talk about basketball this year? Do you get Fox Sports regional tv? The MSU-Xavier game is going to be on it tonight. We could watch it together. I hope our team hasn't gotten rusty after a week off in honor of exams. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:35:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIZTBp010472 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:35:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:32:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:32:41 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIWfm22473 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:32:41 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDIW1DX027162 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:32:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDB5AF3.2020608@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:31:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FWIW, Natalie, I find that Dayquil works pretty well on random cold symptoms, although I doubt there is really much difference among all the brands. I think the idea of lots of liquids is to make the snot thinner. I think it is so *cute* that Alec reserved the paraffin thingie for you. That made me smile. We're having a little snowstorm. We did go out to the barn, but no lessons because Missourians are too afraid to drive in the snow (we'll go tomorrow instead), so we just helped feed and water all the critters. Ana is outside with her friends playing in the snow right now. I really need to sit and grade all those To Kill and Mockingbird papers and Inferno exams. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIdABp010537 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218BC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIaLm22720 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDIaK6X014155 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:36:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:36:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1445573468.20031213123643@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The snot has subsided somewhat. It's the ears that are the worst. Warm olive oil... > What's the deal on drinking liquids? Why does that help? It thins the mucous, which makes it easier to get rid of. > And does water count? Duh. It's the primary liquid. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:39:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIdMBp010542 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIaYm22736 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:36:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDIZsDX028397 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:35:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDB5BDD.8060508@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:35:09 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5371.3020007@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Betty wrote: > >> Let's go for the Red Roof and stay an extra day. I just looked at prices. >> We can eat breakfast at Rita's before we go out on the river. Are you >> driving? > > > Sounds good to me. I noticed that the RRI welcomes dogs. Maybe Spencer > should come. I think not, though. Yes, I'm driving. I don't know > exactly how long it takes to drive from here to St. Louis but know it's > an easy drive. Spencer is welcome, but since Vinnie doesn't like other boys, only one of them could be free at the same time. I don't mind crating Vinnie, and probably will need to anyway to keep him out of everybody's lap at least part of the time (he really, really loves people). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:40:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIegBp010565 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:40:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B32F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:37:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 820578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:37:54 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIbsm22944 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:37:54 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDIbr6X015427 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:37:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:38:15 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1915796393.20031213123815@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 12:21 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Bookrat wrote: >> > Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to >> > be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been >> > cooped up on this coast for far too long. >> >>Austin is lovely this time of year! >> >>Karen > Road trip is July! He could pick me up on his way! (My brother is getting married in June, so I don't know if I will be able to make the fest, too.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:56:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIu7Bp010808 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:56:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B361@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:53:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:53:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIrDm24286 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:53:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDIrCeO006026 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:53:12 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDIrAa2005966; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:53:11 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213105528.00b90760@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:55:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:25 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>Use soft tissue so you don't get a red/raw nose. > >The snot has subsided somewhat. It's the ears that are the worst. > >What's the deal on drinking liquids? Why does that help? And does >water count? You don't want to become dehydrated and water is very good. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 12:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDIvoBp010826 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:57:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B362@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:55:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:55:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIt2m24353 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:55:02 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDIt12f023048 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:55:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDIt0JC023036; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:55:00 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:57:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <1915796393.20031213123815@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:38 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >He could pick me up on his way! (My brother is getting married in >June, so I don't know if I will be able to make the fest, too.) > >Karen If it's towards the end of June it might work! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:02:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJ2EBp010908 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:02:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00218C02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:59:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:59:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDIxQm24592 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:59:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDIwTKX003523 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:58:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:59:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1567945576.20031213125947@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 12:38 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>He could pick me up on his way! (My brother is getting married in >>June, so I don't know if I will be able to make the fest, too.) >> >>Karen > If it's towards the end of June it might work! If I'm working, I can't take that much time off at once. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:05:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJ5YBp010969 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:05:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218BD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:02:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:02:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJ2jm24824 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:02:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDJ2iW1022704 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:02:44 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDJ2hWq022687; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:02:43 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:05:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <1567945576.20031213125947@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:59 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Betty wrote: > > At 12:38 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > > >>He could pick me up on his way! (My brother is getting married in > >>June, so I don't know if I will be able to make the fest, too.) > >> > >>Karen > > > If it's towards the end of June it might work! > >If I'm working, I can't take that much time off at once. Well, I'm hoping for work! If you're working, you could fly in for a long week end. :-) Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:06:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJ6cBp010992 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:06:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B36D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:03:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:03:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJ3om24903 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:03:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDJ3n6X002853 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:03:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:04:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <101380009.20031213130411@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 12:59 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Betty wrote: >> > At 12:38 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >>He could pick me up on his way! (My brother is getting married in >> >>June, so I don't know if I will be able to make the fest, too.) >> >> >> >>Karen >> >> > If it's towards the end of June it might work! >> >>If I'm working, I can't take that much time off at once. > Well, I'm hoping for work! If you're working, you could fly in for a long > week end. :-) I don't know that I could afford two trips so close together. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:11:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJBXBp011085 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:11:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B366@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:08:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:08:45 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDJ8jm25249 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:08:45 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp02.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.122]) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA97Y26QACLC7ES for (sender ); Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14865 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2003 19:07:30 -0000 Received: from 01-020.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.20) by smtp02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2003 19:07:30 -0000 Message-ID: <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Hey, Brad Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:09:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 8:4:3192389107 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Are we gonna talk about basketball this year? Do you get Fox Sports > regional tv? The MSU-Xavier game is going to be on it tonight. We > could watch it together. I hope our team hasn't gotten rusty after a > week off in honor of exams. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Just one game for me today, the extravaganza in Detroit between UKy and Michigan State. But sure, we will watch and talk about some battles together this season. And wait, as I always do, for cwv's reasoned Down East observations. Tonight, I think I might tune in to It's A Wonderful Life on NBC; it has been a while since I boo-hooed in front of the telly. I do have a basketball question. After last Saturday's Wooden Classic, UKy 52 - UCLA 50, the local sports scribe wrote on Sunday, "Yes, The OC can produce something genuinely ugly." I've been struggling with that initialism for the past week. The only context is our point guard getting seasoned by his collegiate experience after three years of the wars. So it must mean "The Ol' College"? Best I can come up with. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:13:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJDwBp011106 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218C3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:11:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:11:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJBAm25358 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:11:10 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDJB8eO017191 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:11:08 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDJB7a2017177; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:11:07 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213111308.00b94160@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:13:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <101380009.20031213130411@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:04 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >I don't know that I could afford two trips so close together. I totally understand. Could the wedding date be changed to be more accommodating? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:16:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJGGBp011157 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:16:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B386@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:13:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:13:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJDRm25510 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:13:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDJCVKX013641 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:12:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:13:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1148064349.20031213131349@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> References: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, bogris01 wrote: > I do have a basketball question. After last Saturday's Wooden > Classic, UKy 52 - UCLA 50, the local sports scribe wrote on > Sunday, "Yes, The OC can produce something genuinely ugly." I've > been struggling with that initialism for the past week. The only > context is our point guard getting seasoned by his collegiate > experience after three years of the wars. So it must mean "The > Ol' College"? Best I can come up with. I think it's a reference to Orange County, per the TV show. But... UCLA isn't in Orange County. So I think it was just a boo boo. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:17:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJHOBp011164 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:17:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B36F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:14:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:14:36 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJEam25602 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:14:36 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDJEZrm014788 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:14:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:14:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1126257351.20031213131457@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213111308.00b94160@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213111308.00b94160@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 01:04 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>I don't know that I could afford two trips so close together. > I totally understand. Could the wedding date be changed to be more > accommodating? Ha! No. They are getting married in Savannah, and it is a HUGE deal. This date was extremely difficult to arrive at, there are so many people involved. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:20:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJKSBp011200 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:20:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B388@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:17:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:17:40 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJHem25803 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:17:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDJHd4j024295 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:17:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:16:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just talked to RRI, and they have a modem hook-up in the rooms, and coffee only in the lobby -- no breakfast. Hampton offers breakfast and has internet access in their rooms as well. Both offer spectacular views of I-270 and Christian Northwest Hospital. There is a little cluster of fast-food places right there. Also the imaging center where I get my lungs peeped at every year. I want to make sure Betty feels at home! I'll have Kevin call this week to see about group/discount rates if any are available. He's better at that sort of thing than I am. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:27:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJR3Bp011280 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218C5D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:24:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:24:15 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDJOFm26168 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:24:15 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp04.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.124]) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA97Y34LASFPK9S for (sender ); Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5806 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2003 19:23:50 -0000 Received: from 01-020.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.20) by smtp04.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2003 19:23:50 -0000 Message-ID: <00e901c3c1ae$e63af680$149a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> <1148064349.20031213131349@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Hey, Brad Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:25:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 7:3:2166860112 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I do have a basketball question. After last Saturday's Wooden > > Classic, UKy 52 - UCLA 50, the local sports scribe wrote on > > Sunday, "Yes, The OC can produce something genuinely ugly." I've > > been struggling with that initialism for the past week. The only > > context is our point guard getting seasoned by his collegiate > > experience after three years of the wars. So it must mean "The > > Ol' College"? Best I can come up with. > > I think it's a reference to Orange County, per the TV show. But... > UCLA isn't in Orange County. So I think it was just a boo boo. > > Karen But Arrowhead Pond, home of the Anaheim Ducks, is in Orange County, so that must be it! But why make it "The OC"? brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:31:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJVCBp011347 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:31:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218C3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:28:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:28:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJRom26601 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:27:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDJRnrm023540 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:28:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1943786495.20031213132811@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <00e901c3c1ae$e63af680$149a1840@computer> References: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> <1148064349.20031213131349@WordWrite.com> <00e901c3c1ae$e63af680$149a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, bogris01 wrote: > But Arrowhead Pond, home of the Anaheim Ducks, is in Orange > County, so that must be it! But why make it "The OC"? I never heard this usage till the TV program started, but since then I've noticed it in other sources that are unlikely to be influenced by TV. One might equally well ask "Why anything?" Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:31:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJVMBp011351 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:31:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B3B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:28:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 821941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:28:23 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJRFm26586 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:27:15 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDJREVI012563 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:27:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDB67BB.4040802@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:25:47 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Speaking of Alyce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had an Alyce experience last night. I went out to dinner and to the St. Louis Symphony with Nancy, one of my colleagues at the high school. At the Symphony, we met up with one of her former students, who works at the Webster Bookstore. I had no idea this bookstore existed, but it is an old-fashioned indie bookstore where they recommend books and chat, etc. We had a lovely, wide-ranging conversation about a bunch of this year's books. I promised I would stop by to buy books. Perhaps I'll drop off my Amazon wishlist for them to order in for me.. Alyce was in the back of my mind the whole time. She probably would have enjoyed the Symphony, as well. It was beautiful. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:32:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJWXBp011369 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:32:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B3C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:29:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:29:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJTjm26789 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:29:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDJTi2f017944 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:29:44 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDJTgJC017912; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:29:43 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213112651.00b99260@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:32:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:16 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >I just talked to RRI, and they have a modem hook-up in the >rooms, and coffee only in the lobby -- no breakfast. > >Hampton offers breakfast and has internet access in their >rooms as well. Not sure breakfast is worth an additional $15 a night. Thanks for checking, Rita! >There is a little cluster of fast-food places right there. >Also the imaging center where I get my lungs peeped at every >year. I want to make sure Betty feels at home! Hey, maybe I could stay and work for a while. I often thought that it would be a fun thing to do-work in different states or countries and stay for a few months. Nurses do it quite often. I'm still looking at humming birds here. Incredible! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:55:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJtNBp011691 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:55:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00218CB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:52:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:52:35 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJqZm28656 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:52:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213195230.WPWQ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:52:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB6DFF.1040100@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:52:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> <3FDB5AF3.2020608@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDB5AF3.2020608@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I think it is so *cute* that Alec reserved the paraffin > thingie for you. That made me smile. Me too. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:57:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJv1Bp011708 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:57:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B3FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:54:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:54:13 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJsCm28739 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:54:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213195407.WQHO1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:54:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB6E61.2060506@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:54:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213095556.00b818c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5371.3020007@maynor.net> <3FDB5BDD.8060508@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDB5BDD.8060508@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Spencer is welcome, but since Vinnie doesn't like other boys, > only one of them could be free at the same time. I don't It really would be fun bringing a dog to your dogland, but it will be simpler for Spencer to stay at Furrbabies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 13:58:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDJwZBp011735 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:58:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218C87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:55:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:55:47 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJtlm28825 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:55:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213195542.WQSZ1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:55:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB6EBF.3080806@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:55:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> <1445573468.20031213123643@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1445573468.20031213123643@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>The snot has subsided somewhat. It's the ears that are the worst. > > Warm olive oil... Pour warm olive oil in my ears?? That sounds . >>And does water count? > > Duh. It's the primary liquid. I had wondered why nobody was saying "drink lots of water" since water is certainly the easiest liquid to procure and consume. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:00:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDK0lBp011786 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:00:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00218CBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:57:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:57:59 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJvxm28928 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:57:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213195754.WRFY1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:57:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB6F43.90907@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:57:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad References: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> In-Reply-To: <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bogris01 wrote: > Tonight, I think I > might tune in to It's A Wonderful Life on NBC; it has been a > while since I boo-hooed in front of the telly. Ooh. That sounds tempting. I will perhaps switch to it if we get far behind in the game. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:01:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDK0xBp011791 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:01:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B3F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:58:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:58:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDJwBm28965 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:58:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDJvDKX012374 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:57:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:58:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4110528372.20031213135828@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB6EBF.3080806@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213094356.00a11dc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> <1445573468.20031213123643@WordWrite.com> <3FDB6EBF.3080806@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>The snot has subsided somewhat. It's the ears that are the worst. >> >> Warm olive oil... > Pour warm olive oil in my ears?? That sounds . Well, I use an eyedropper, but chacun a son gout. >>>And does water count? >> >> Duh. It's the primary liquid. > I had wondered why nobody was saying "drink lots of water" since water > is certainly the easiest liquid to procure and consume. And that of which your body is constituted. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:03:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDK3rBp011811 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:03:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B419@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:01:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 822991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:01:05 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDK14m29277 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:01:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213200100.WSBC1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:01:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB6FFD.60903@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:01:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I just talked to RRI, and they have a modem hook-up in the > rooms, and coffee only in the lobby -- no breakfast. No breakfast at all? That seems surprising. I thought pretty much every place these days offered at least some little something. I bet, though, that there is breakfast available nearby -- like maybe adjacent. > Hampton offers breakfast and has internet access in their > rooms as well. Neither mentioned net access in the lobby? As in a computer sitting there connected to the net? I am impressed with your good work! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:04:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDK4tBp011822 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:04:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B40D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:02:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 823038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:02:07 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDK26m29384 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:02:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213200201.WSHV1942.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:02:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB703B.4000106@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:02:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Alyce References: <3FDB67BB.4040802@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDB67BB.4040802@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Alyce was in the back of my mind the whole time. She > probably would have enjoyed the Symphony, as well. It was > beautiful. The whole night sounds fun. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:22:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDKMYBp012113 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:22:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B44B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:19:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 823537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:19:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDKJkm30742 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:19:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDKJi2f025202 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:19:45 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDKJhJC025193; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:19:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213122135.00b9aaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:22:21 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FDB6FFD.60903@maynor.net> References: <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:01 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Neither mentioned net access in the lobby? As in a computer sitting >there connected to the net? Should I bring my laptop? >I am impressed with your good work! Yes! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 15:23:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDLNGBp012901 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:23:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B52E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 825643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:20:19 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDLKJm02543 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:20:19 -0500 Received: from computer (client-151-197-197-186.ba-dsg.net[151.197.197.186]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121321201011300ooaj7e> (Authid: plotkina@worldnet.att.net); Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:20:12 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:19:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: Alec Spoke The Truth I rarely lie. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:03:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDM3WBp013612 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:03:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B5D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 827478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDM0hm05812 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:00:17 PST Message-ID: <20031213220017.86281.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The name To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031213092012.GA12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > Amalia is what they will call her. I don't know why > the Catharina > is tacked on to the beginning. Beatrix is her > paternal > grandmother, Carmen is her maternal grandmother, and > if I recall > what the prince said correctly, "Victoria means victory". I didn't realize Carmen was a family name. That makes it all entirely appropriate and I still love it. I wonder how they left Wilhemina out? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:11:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMBRBp013655 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B63F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:08:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:08:38 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDM8cm06564 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:08:38 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:07:14 PST Message-ID: <20031213220714.11887.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:07:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213040915.00b728c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Theo, maybe your computer wasn't working and you > were off line when she > told us about the lung cancer. Is it possible that the immediate, primary cause of death was pneumonia, a complication of lung cancer? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:12:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMCgBp013671 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:12:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B639@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:09:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:09:53 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDM9qm06614 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:09:52 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:09:47 PST Message-ID: <20031213220947.4611.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDB2C4E.1010907@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > How does your daughter feel when you insult > and denigrate her > profession? What was Theo's profession before retirement? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:18:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMI2Bp013744 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:18:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218EDA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:15:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:15:09 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMF8m06967 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:15:09 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:15:03 PST Message-ID: <20031213221503.27722.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:15:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <27656657.20031213120006@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Neither of my bathrooms have any vents at all. It's > the only thing I > find truly insane about this house. Well, that and > the fact that not > every room has ceiling fans. How do you stand them in the summer? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:21:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMLPBp013800 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B64E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:36 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMIam07137 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:36 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:16:42 PST Message-ID: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:16:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213100832.00b76b50@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > You may think it's funny but it'snot. (Sorry, > couldn't help myself.) Well, someone has to sit in for Doris. When will she be back? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMLjBp013805 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B653@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:56 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMIum07179 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:56 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:18:46 PST Message-ID: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDB5997.6060905@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > What's the deal on drinking liquids? Why does that > help? And does > water count? And don't forget chicken soup (broth, actually). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMN9Bp013831 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:23:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B63C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMKKm07329 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:20 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-45.gwi.net [216.195.157.45]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBDMKI57023536 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213171638.00bc35e0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031213220714.11887.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031213040915.00b728c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Is it possible that the immediate, primary cause of >death was pneumonia, a complication of lung cancer? No. Alyce did have pneumonia from time to time. They did lung scans while she had acute pneumonia and discovered the cancerous mass. They successfully treated the pneumonia but the cancer was too far gone to do chemotherapy for which she was grateful. She dreaded chemo. They gave her six months to live. Her twin sons took turns coming to stay with her. The son who was with her for a long time on death watch joined words-l during that time. He told us stories about Alyce at night while she fitfully slept. We appreciated that a great deal. And I think he appreciated having us with him there while he did his grim duty. She stayed home in her farm house in the Hudson Valley to the very end. She grew weaker and slipped away from us. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:24:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMOJBp013837 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:24:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B63E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:30 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMLTm07394 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDMLS6X015058 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <425963755.20031213162151@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031213220714.11887.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031213220714.11887.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Betty wrote: >> Theo, maybe your computer wasn't working and you >> were off line when she >> told us about the lung cancer. > Is it possible that the immediate, primary cause of > death was pneumonia, a complication of lung cancer? It's possible, but even so, that has nothing to do with why Alyce was on oxygen. Theo is, as usual, confused and making up stories. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:24:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMOeBp013846 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:24:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMLpm07447 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDMKsKX018980 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:20:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:22:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <833161652.20031213162213@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031213220947.4611.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031213220947.4611.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: >> How does your daughter feel when you insult >> and denigrate her >> profession? > What was Theo's profession before retirement? She claims to have been a journalist before the brain damage. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:25:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMP9Bp013850 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:25:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B65E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:22:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:22:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMMJm07519 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:22:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDMLNKX019266 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:22:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1223430207.20031213162242@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <20031213221503.27722.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031213221503.27722.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> Neither of my bathrooms have any vents at all. It's >> the only thing I >> find truly insane about this house. Well, that and >> the fact that not >> every room has ceiling fans. > How do you stand them in the summer? Stand what? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:26:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMQiBp013862 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:26:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B647@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:23:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:23:55 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMNtm07622 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:23:55 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:23:49 PST Message-ID: <20031213222349.16829.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:23:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hey, Brad To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Are we gonna talk about basketball this year? Do > you get Fox Sports > regional tv? The MSU-Xavier game is going to be on > it tonight. We > could watch it together. I hope our team hasn't > gotten rusty after a > week off in honor of exams. I'm gonna talk basketball. Mizzou just played a whale of a game with Gonzaga. Mizzou's coach is one of my heart throbs. I will watch MSU tonight. Duke has already lost one game. It will be interesting to see how NC does this year. Natalie, if you have occasion to go out again, try Thera-Flu. It usually does wonders for symptoms. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:26:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMQoBp013866 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B65A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:24:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:24:01 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDME1m06881 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:14:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 60537 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2003 22:13:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:13:59 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Message-ID: <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:19:11PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > I rarely lie. What if this statement is one of the rare ones? Ha! I slay myself From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:28:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMSIBp013902 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:28:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B663@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:25:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:25:29 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMFSm06980 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:15:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 61490 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2003 22:15:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:15:27 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031213221527.GB59456@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:15:28AM -0800, Bookrat wrote: > There are some people with whom it is simply not possible > to have a rational discussion; BLAH BLAH BLAH ... SCREW YOU, LUSER! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMTBBp013926 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:29:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218EC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:26:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:26:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMQMm08012 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:26:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDMPPKX022157 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:25:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:26:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1462268843.20031213162643@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Ha! I slay myself One can only hope! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:35:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMZ7Bp014005 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:35:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00218F00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:32:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:32:18 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMWIm09182 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:32:18 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:32:09 PST Message-ID: <20031213223209.89468.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:32:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDB6EBF.3080806@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I had wondered why nobody was saying "drink lots of > water" since water > is certainly the easiest liquid to procure and > consume. Yes, but it gets boring, and can taste lousy when your passages are gummed up. The idea of liquids, is to flush the bacteria out of your system as quickly as possible, and guard against dehydration, as mentioned already. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:46:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMk0Bp014174 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:46:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218EF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMX4m09280 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:33:04 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBDMVlIi012500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:31:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:33:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> Careful - it is a registered mark. > >Then why didn't you indicate that? Remember - context is all. (I do not know how to enter an R in a circle when I am in PINE.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBp014340 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B653@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:29:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:29:23 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMTNm08547 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:29:23 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:29:14 PST Message-ID: <20031213222914.60374.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:29:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Alyce To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDB67BB.4040802@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > I had an Alyce experience last night. I went out to > dinner > and to the St. Louis Symphony with Nancy, one of my > colleagues at the high school. At the Symphony, we > met up > with one of her former students, who works at the > Webster > Bookstore. I had no idea this bookstore existed, > but it is > an old-fashioned indie bookstore where they > recommend books > and chat, etc. We had a lovely, wide-ranging > conversation > about a bunch of this year's books. I promised I > would stop > by to buy books. Perhaps I'll drop off my Amazon > wishlist > for them to order in for me.. > > Alyce was in the back of my mind the whole time. > She > probably would have enjoyed the Symphony, as well. > It was > beautiful. What was on the programme? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBp014342 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B65B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:33:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:33:46 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMNkm07617 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:23:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 66706 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2003 22:23:45 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:23:45 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The name Message-ID: <20031213222345.GA64810@words-l.org> References: <20031213022730.88939.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 07:15:13PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > I love it except for the Carmen, which I find out of > > place with the others. > > I disagree. I particularly like the combo "Carmen Victoria." You probably eat chocolate while drinking a cabernet! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBp014343 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B68B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:39:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 829069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:39:22 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMdMm09955 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:39:22 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:39:17 PST Message-ID: <20031213223917.91136.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213171638.00bc35e0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: The > son who was with her for a long time on death watch > joined words-l during > that time. He told us stories about Alyce at night > while she fitfully > slept. We appreciated that a great deal. And I > think he appreciated > having us with him there while he did his grim duty. > She stayed home in > her farm house in the Hudson Valley to the very end. > She grew weaker and > slipped away from us. Thank you. I'm glad she was able to avoid chemo, and also glad her son was willing and able to tell those stories and keep you posted. I know her loss is felt keenly. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBq014340 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B681@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:30 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMXTm09361 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:33:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 73141 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2003 22:33:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:33:28 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Message-ID: <20031213223328.GA72343@words-l.org> References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> <1462268843.20031213162643@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1462268843.20031213162643@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:26:43PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Ha! I slay myself > > One can only hope! That's some pretty fierce optimism, K4r3n. How do you do it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBq014339 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B68D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:40:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 829089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:40:24 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMeOm10038 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:40:24 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:40:19 PST Message-ID: <20031213224019.12131.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:40:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1223430207.20031213162242@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > How do you stand them in the summer? > > Stand what? The uncooled bathrooms. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBp014339 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B664@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 828333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:26:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBDMGCm07034 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:16:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 61943 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2003 22:16:11 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:16:11 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting Message-ID: <20031213221611.GC59456@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77965@EXCHSRVR1> <20031213093849.GB12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FDB29E5.9030008@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FDB29E5.9030008@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 09:01:57AM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > steph wrote: > > >It's my text. Someone please throw a manipulative towards my > >head the next time I set her off. It seems so logical when I > >hit the send button. But it has such predictable results. > > > Indeed. Ayeh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMtvBp014341 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:55:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B673@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:38:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 829026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:38:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDMc9m09870 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:38:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218EEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:38:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200312132238.hBDMc9m09870@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:38:09 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:32:09 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I had wondered why nobody was saying "drink lots of >> water" since water >> is certainly the easiest liquid to procure and >> consume. > Easy and very good to consume - highly recommended; but many people won't drink enough water. There are good reasons to vary beverages though: - Hot fluids help sinuses drain, making it easier to breathe - hence, they are comforting. - Juices have lots of vitamins (if real), helping to fight infection. - Chicken Soup and other salty beverages provide electrolyte-balancing salts. >Yes, but it gets boring, and can taste lousy when your >passages are gummed up. The idea of liquids, is to >flush the bacteria out of your system as quickly as >possible, and guard against dehydration, as mentioned already. > clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:08:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDN8YBp014551 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:08:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B6EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:05:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:05:45 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDN5im12314 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:05:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213230539.WYRV12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:05:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB9B45.3080301@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:05:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031213122135.00b9aaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213122135.00b9aaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: >> Neither mentioned net access in the lobby? As in a computer sitting >> there connected to the net? > > Should I bring my laptop? Not unless you want to. And who knows -- I might have a laptop by then. I've pondered getting one. I wonder whether I have to be in BellSouth territory for my dial-up to work. I know it works when traveling -- that's one of its points, though I've never used it. But I don't know whether it works everywhere or just in BS country. I am having fond memories now of the years I took my laptop everywhere. I'm amused by these motels that talk about modem hookups in rooms. I never met a motel room that I couldn't crack the phone system of back in those days of laptop carrying. Usually it was easy -- just unplugging the phone and plugging in the modem. But sometimes it took major surgery on the phone connection. I'm finally out of the habit I used to be in of looking immediately at the phone jack when entering a motel/hotel room. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:11:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNBUBp014572 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:11:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B6F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:08:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:08:40 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDN8em12507 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:08:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213230835.WZOU12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:08:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB9BF4.3030908@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:08:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Betty wrote: > >>You may think it's funny but it'snot. (Sorry, >>couldn't help myself.) > > Well, someone has to sit in for Doris. When will she > be back? I don't remember that she said. Was it Gene's brother they were visiting in Arizona? Seems to me they wouldn't stay all that long. I bet she'll resurface soon. Speaking of snot, I have a snot question. Cover your eyes, Betty. If the point of drinking liquids is to make snot thinner, I assume that means that skinny snot is better than fat snot. Why? Or is that what a cold is -- having your snot grow too fat? I've been thinking about this question the past several hours and just had to ask. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:14:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNEhBp014602 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:14:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B6F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:11:54 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNBrm13152 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:11:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213231148.XAME12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB9CB6.2010905@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:11:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > And don't forget chicken soup (broth, actually). I don't have any. And am not going out again into the elements. I'm also not finding eating appealing at all. It's hard to shovel food in. I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was glad to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on celery unless the celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several weeks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:17:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNHjBp014679 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:17:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B6FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:14:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:14:54 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNEsm13371 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:14:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213231449.XBJK12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB9D6A.3070308@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:14:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies References: <4.2.2.20031213040915.00b728c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031213171638.00bc35e0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213171638.00bc35e0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > that time. He told us stories about Alyce at night while she fitfully > slept. We appreciated that a great deal. And I think he appreciated It really was so very good having Jeff with us at the end. In addition to his fascinating stories about Alyce and his being a generally delightful person, I can't imagine how we would have managed if we had not known what was happening -- had sat here knowing that Alyce was dying but not knowing how far away from death she was and what her situation was. Jeff was wonderful. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:17:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNHsBp014683 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:17:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:15:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:15:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNF4m13415 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:15:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDNF36X022310 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:15:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:15:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <497832132.20031213171525@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <20031213224019.12131.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031213224019.12131.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> > How do you stand them in the summer? >> >> Stand what? > The uncooled bathrooms. It depends. They each have at least one window, which helps. The cold is more of a problem, but they have heat lamps. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:18:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNIVBp014690 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:18:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B713@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:15:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:15:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNFfm13466 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:15:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDNFe2f025937 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:15:40 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDNFdJC025920; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:15:40 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213151725.00ba8ed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:18:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The name In-Reply-To: <20031213222345.GA64810@words-l.org> References: <20031213022730.88939.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:23 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 07:15:13PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > > I love it except for the Carmen, which I find out of > > > place with the others. > > > > I disagree. I particularly like the combo "Carmen Victoria." > >You probably eat chocolate while drinking a cabernet! Is there a time you are not to eat chocolate?? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:19:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNJABp014698 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B714@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNGKm13532 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDNGJrm027127 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:16:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:16:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>> Careful - it is a registered mark. >> >>Then why didn't you indicate that? > Remember - context is all. Right--if you expect me to observe a convention for something you're discussing, you'd better introduce the context appropriately. > (I do not know how to enter an R in a circle when I am in PINE.) The usual convention is (R). Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:19:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNJTBp014703 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B70F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNGdm13733 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDNGcrm027540 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:16:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:17:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1698931783.20031213171702@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <20031213223328.GA72343@words-l.org> References: <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> <1462268843.20031213162643@WordWrite.com> <20031213223328.GA72343@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 04:26:43PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > Ha! I slay myself >> >> One can only hope! > That's some pretty fierce optimism, K4r3n. How do you do it? You inspire me! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:20:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNKZBp014741 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B724@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:17:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:17:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNHjm14026 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:17:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDNHiW1013387 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:17:44 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBDNHhWq013374; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:17:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213152003.00bac5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:20:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB9BF4.3030908@maynor.net> References: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:08 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >>--- Betty wrote: >> >>>You may think it's funny but it'snot. (Sorry, >>>couldn't help myself.) >> >>Well, someone has to sit in for Doris. When will she >>be back? > >I don't remember that she said. Was it Gene's brother they were >visiting in Arizona? Seems to me they wouldn't stay all that long. I >bet she'll resurface soon. > >Speaking of snot, I have a snot question. Cover your eyes, Betty. If >the point of drinking liquids is to make snot thinner, I assume that >means that skinny snot is better than fat snot. Why? Or is that what a >cold is -- having your snot grow too fat? I've been thinking about this >question the past several hours and just had to ask. I'm sure Karen nose. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:22:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNMTBp014779 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:22:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218F70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:19:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:19:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNJdm14172 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:19:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDNJcrm029362 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <47351950.20031213172002@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB9BF4.3030908@maynor.net> References: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDB9BF4.3030908@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Speaking of snot, I have a snot question. Cover your eyes, Betty. If > the point of drinking liquids is to make snot thinner, I assume that > means that skinny snot is better than fat snot. Why? Or is that what a > cold is -- having your snot grow too fat? I've been thinking about this > question the past several hours and just had to ask. The thinner the mucus is, the fewer problems it causes (such as obstructing breathing) and the easier it is to get rid of. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:23:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNN8Bp014791 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:23:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:20:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:20:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNKIm14251 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:20:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBDNJMKX000202 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:19:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:20:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1135066738.20031213172041@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB9CB6.2010905@maynor.net> References: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDB9CB6.2010905@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: >> And don't forget chicken soup (broth, actually). > I don't have any. This is why God made pantries. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNOmBp014800 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B71E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:21:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:21:58 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNLwm14373 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:21:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213232153.XDIT12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:21:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDB9F12.5070409@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:21:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad References: <20031213222349.16829.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031213222349.16829.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I will watch MSU tonight. I should go mess with my tv and see whether I really am going to see that game. It just occurred to me that DirecTV is weird -- that I'm never sure which sports things I'm going to get. I don't pay for those extra sports channels and remember at least one time when I thought I would be seeing a game that I didn't get to see. But then I also remember another time seeing one that I didn't think I would get to see. I don't understand the system at all. It will take messing with the menu. And it may be that the messing will have to be done at the last minute. > Natalie, if you have occasion > to go out again, try Thera-Flu. It usually does > wonders for symptoms. Thanks for the tip. I think the Robowhatever is helping some. I took the first pair of pills about 10:30 and then started going really crazy with ear-pain about 3:00, read the package, and saw that it was time for more Robowhatever. I took two more pills, and my ears aren't driving me quite as crazy as they were, although I am still of them. How have I managed to live to be sixty without ever experiencing this kind of ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:30:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNUbBp014880 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:30:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B745@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:27:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 830984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:27:47 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNRlm14854 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:27:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213232742.XEXN12995.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDBA070.9090700@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:27:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <20031213223209.89468.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031213223209.89468.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Yes, but it gets boring, and can taste lousy when your > passages are gummed up. The idea of liquids, is to > flush the bacteria out of your system as quickly as > possible, and guard against dehydration, as mentioned already. Why would dehydration be likely? Re flushing the bacteria away, I'm happy to report that my klutzily-wired flusher worked when I tried it again a little while ago. I hope it continues to work since all this liquid consumption will have me running to the bathroom all night, and the one with the broken flusher is much closer than the cold little one. Then again, I guess I could just not flush it until morning. But that would make me feel worse -- just like my dirty house is making me feel worse. No matter how I feel tomorrow, I am going to do some housecleaning because a dirty house damages my psyche, and psyches and bodies are closely related. The nasty rain outside isn't helping anything. Alas and Alack. I am the voice of woe. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNnABp015196 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:49:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B76E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:21 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNkKm16344 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213234615.ZFGB1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDBA4C9.4020604@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:46:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDB9BF4.3030908@maynor.net> <47351950.20031213172002@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <47351950.20031213172002@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > The thinner the mucus is, the fewer problems it causes (such as > obstructing breathing) and the easier it is to get rid of. Thank you. I take it that mucus is the name for snot. What is phelgm? Is it just another synonym, or is it something different? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:49:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNnXBp015202 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:49:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B789@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:43 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNkhm16361 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213234638.ZFJM1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:46:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDBA4DF.5010805@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:46:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031213221642.85081.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.2.20031213152003.00bac5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213152003.00bac5d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > I'm sure Karen nose. And ideed you were right. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:50:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNouBp015219 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:50:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00218FBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:48:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 831626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:48:06 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBDNm6m16460 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:48:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031213234801.ZFSL1942.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:48:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDBA533.5020004@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:48:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDB9CB6.2010905@maynor.net> <1135066738.20031213172041@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1135066738.20031213172041@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>I don't have any. > > This is why God made pantries. God didn't make me one. But if I did have one, should I have been storing chicken soup in it the past sixty years on the chance that I would have this ? I've never have anything like this before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0GBBp015605 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:16:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B7AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:13:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:13:21 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0DKm18328 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:13:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE0DJ4j015224 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:13:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDBAACB.8070607@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:11:55 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Alyce References: <20031213222914.60374.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >>I had an Alyce experience last night. I went out to >>dinner >>and to the St. Louis Symphony with Nancy, one of my >>colleagues at the high school. At the Symphony, we >>met up >>with one of her former students, who works at the >>Webster >>Bookstore. I had no idea this bookstore existed, >>but it is >>an old-fashioned indie bookstore where they >>recommend books >>and chat, etc. We had a lovely, wide-ranging >>conversation >>about a bunch of this year's books. I promised I >>would stop >>by to buy books. Perhaps I'll drop off my Amazon >>wishlist >>for them to order in for me.. >> >>Alyce was in the back of my mind the whole time. >>She >>probably would have enjoyed the Symphony, as well. >>It was >>beautiful. >> > > > What was on the programme? Christmas music. The Symphony played with a full gospel choir and Ci Ci Wyman -- I'm sure that's not how to spell her name. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:20:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0KmBp015666 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:20:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B7C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:17:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:17:58 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBE0Hwm18700 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:17:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 28042 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2003 00:17:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't get Fox Sports and thus won't see the basketball game. I'm glad to know that I've got "It's a Wonderful Life" to fall back on since I'm in the mood for tv. I also stumbled upon the 1958 Miss America pageant while messing with the tv. It's on a channel called Trio. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:25:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0P3Bp015742 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:25:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021904E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:22:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:22:09 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0M9m19051 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:22:09 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-157-45.gwi.net [216.195.157.45]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBE0M7Gn050638 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:22:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213191716.02843e48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:22:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDB9CB6.2010905@maynor.net> References: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm also not finding eating appealing at all. It's hard to shovel food in. > -- Natalie Having a cold similar to yours, I'm also finding that food isn't very appealing. We were invited out to dinner last night. There was way too much food and way too much liquor. Here's a not-exhaustive list: Champagne with appetizers Small, beautiful, home made pizza as appetizer Crackers and melted brie thingy as appetizer nuts Wine with dinner Roasted pork loin with lots of garlic Two different veggie casseroles Homemade sourdough bread Single malt Scotch whiskey chocolate covered strawberries a homemade white and dark chocolate candy with broken candy cane sprinkles an ice cream dish homemade with caramel and tangerines With all that I still lost a pound of weight yesterday. And yesterday morning I made my traditional chocolate-covered nuts for Christmas presents. I did snack on both the nuts and the chocolate. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:28:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0SABp015777 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:28:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B7E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:25:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0FKm18565 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:15:20 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE0DcIi032138 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:14:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:14:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >The usual convention is (R). Actually, I think it is a circle with an R in it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:31:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0VXBp015878 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:31:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B7E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:28:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 832346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:28:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0Igm18771 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:18:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE0HQIi032747 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:17:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:18:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> Message-ID: References: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I don't get Fox Sports and thus won't see the basketball game. I'm glad to >know that I've got "It's a Wonderful Life" to fall back on since I'm in the >mood for tv. I also stumbled upon the 1958 Miss America pageant while >messing with the tv. It's on a channel called Trio. Isn's Suze Ormond one? (CNBC) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0vRBp016344 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:57:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B802@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:37 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0sbm20987 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.31]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214005432.YMYM1909.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDBB4C9.4090707@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:54:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>I don't get Fox Sports and thus won't see the basketball game. I'm glad to >>know that I've got "It's a Wonderful Life" to fall back on since I'm in the >>mood for tv. I also stumbled upon the 1958 Miss America pageant while >>messing with the tv. It's on a channel called Trio. > > Isn's Suze Ormond one? (CNBC) I don't understand the question. Who is Suze Ormond? One what? And what is CNBC? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:59:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0x2Bp016393 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:59:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B807@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:56:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:56:11 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0uBm21099 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:56:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE0uAVI023720 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:56:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDBB4D6.7080308@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:54:46 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <200312121936.hBCJaw923494@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Very well, I will cite closer to home. > ...or the ones who hand a fractious child, first a lollipop, and then, when > good and sticky, a kleenex that will stick to every finger and be picked > off as lint for the majority of a 700 mile car ride? (My mother, in a > desperate bid to amuse my daughter, with very good results). This is brilliant. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:02:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE12UBp016483 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:02:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002190DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:59:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:59:40 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0xem21348 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:59:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE0xdVI025064 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:59:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDBB5A7.9040205@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:58:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213112651.00b99260@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Hey, maybe I could stay and work for a while. I often thought that it > would be a fun thing to do-work in different states or countries and stay > for a few months. Nurses do it quite often. Yes, I used to know somebody who did that. It seemed like an interesting way to see the country. > I'm still looking at humming birds here. Incredible! The number of hummingbirds in my yard increases by one or two every summer. I've watched whole flocks of them out in the conservation area -- which I find astonishing. I think they generally show up around the beginning of July. I saw a great horned owl yesterday on my way home from work. It swooped down over the highway and settled in a tree. That was really cool. We have one in the neighborhood that we hear hooting all the time, but I've only seen that one once. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:12:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1C7Bp016568 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B820@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE19Gm21876 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:16 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.163.29a1c4a6 (4246) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:05 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:05 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/13/2003 4:09:59 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: >What was Theo's profession before retirement? ------- As I've told you, it was associated with "words". I was a journalist before I arrived in this country. And even if you don't have any respect for that profession, I will not allow you to insult me. So now you know, and if Alyce died of cancer, that's not what she told me from the beginning; and perhaps I DID miss the announcement on here. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:12:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1CeBp016574 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:12:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B83B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:09:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE0xom21356 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:59:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE0wXIi009724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:58:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:59:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <3FDBB4C9.4090707@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <3FDBB4C9.4090707@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Isn's Suze Ormond one? (CNBC) > >I don't understand the question. Who is Suze Ormond? One what? And >what is CNBC? of my second favorite electric teevee show (after Rukeyser). On the electric teevee, which you were discussing. CNBC is an electric teevee . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1FBBp016618 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:15:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B839@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1CKm22085 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:12:20 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.84.1e92020b (4246) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:12:09 EST Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/13/2003 5:12:15 PM, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: >I don't have any. And am not going out again into the elements. I'm >also not finding eating appealing at all. It's hard to shovel food in. > I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at >noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was glad to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on celery unless the celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several weeks. Natalie ---------- Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? Speaking of "bitching"! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:18:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1IWBp016667 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:18:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B82C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:15:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:15:41 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1Ffm22258 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:15:41 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.82.1446602 (4246) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:15:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: <82.1446602.2d0d13b6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:15:34 EST Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/13/2003 10:15:52 AM, bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM writes: >>It's my text. Someone please throw a manipulative towards my >>head the next time I set her off. It seems so logical when I >>hit the send button. But it has such predictable results. > --------- You can all go to hell, you know. Just because it "sounds logical", doesn't mean it IS logical. Fyi I know exactly what I'm saying. I'll stay away if it bothers you all that much, it won't bother me one bit. I only joined because Alyce recommended this group, and asked me to. Yes, it was Alyce. But you must stop these insults, because I know I don't deserve them, and I won't put up with them. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:19:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1JIBp016687 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:19:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B82F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:16:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:16:27 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1GRm22337 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:16:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE1GQVI006853 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:16:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDBB996.7030900@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:15:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FDB657E.5050204@swbell.net> <3FDB6FFD.60903@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I just talked to RRI, and they have a modem hook-up in the >> rooms, and coffee only in the lobby -- no breakfast. > > > No breakfast at all? That seems surprising. I thought pretty much > every place these days offered at least some little something. I bet, > though, that there is breakfast available nearby -- like maybe adjacent. No. Oh, there's plenty places to eat nearby. > Neither mentioned net access in the lobby? As in a computer sitting > there connected to the net? Not that they mentioned, but we have access at the Chapman Estate ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:20:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1KYBp016717 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:20:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:17:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:17:44 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1Hhm22458 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:17:43 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE1HhVI007401 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:17:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDBB9E2.3080109@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:16:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta References: <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: >>Planning ahead. I haven't checked flights yet. Ken, can you put in your >>vacation time? I really miss you at these things. >> >>Betty >> > > Now that I have reliable wheels again (knock on wood), and my life seems to > be otherwise in order, I'm actually contemplating a road trip. I've been > cooped up on this coast for far too long. Oooh! This would be very fun and exciting. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1L1Bp016730 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:21:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:18:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:18:11 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1IBm22520 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:18:11 -0500 Received: from Dutchessg1@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id c.a2.4046967d (4246) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:18:01 -0500 (EST) From: Dutchessg1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:18:01 EST Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 46 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/13/2003 4:21:35 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >Theo is, as usual, confused and making up stories. Stop it Karen, you piss me off as usual! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1dKBp017013 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:39:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021912E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:36:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 833821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:36:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1QTm23042 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:26:29 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBE1PCIi014364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:25:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:26:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> Message-ID: References: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: >Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and >going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much >that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? >Speaking of "bitching"! I am VERY close to turning you off forever, Theo. You owe Natalie an enormous apology, one so large that you are probably incapable of offering it. But you should work on it - you really should. The hole in your soul is enormous. Worry about it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:41:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1fOBp017053 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:41:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B85B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:38:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:38:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1cXm23878 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:38:33 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBE1cW6X021581 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:38:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:38:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <418930325.20031213193856@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>The usual convention is (R). > Actually, I think it is a circle with an R in it. Not when there isn't one available. When there isn't one available, the usual convention is (R). Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1goBp017081 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:42:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B87C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:39:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:39:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1dxm23977 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:39:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBE1dwrm027574 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:39:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:40:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <189228116.20031213194022@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> References: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > So now you know, and if Alyce died of cancer, that's not what she > told me from the beginning; She didn't have cancer in the beginning. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1iNBp017101 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:44:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B87D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:41:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:41:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1fWm24089 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:41:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBE1fU6X023226 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:41:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:41:54 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1851384732.20031213194154@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/13/2003 4:21:35 PM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: >>Theo is, as usual, confused and making up stories. > Stop it Karen, you piss me off as usual! Theo Why don't you be the better person and stop it first, Theo? Set an example for me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:45:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1jIBp017143 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:45:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B878@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:42:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:42:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1gRm24162 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:42:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBE1fVKX028532 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:41:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:42:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <303070428.20031213194250@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDBA533.5020004@maynor.net> References: <20031213221846.57631.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDB9CB6.2010905@maynor.net> <1135066738.20031213172041@WordWrite.com> <3FDBA533.5020004@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>I don't have any. >> >> This is why God made pantries. > God didn't make me one. Poor you! > But if I did have one, should I have been > storing chicken soup in it the past sixty years on the chance that I > would have this ? I've never have anything like this before. No, but I think chicken soup is a staple. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:46:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1kMBp017160 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:46:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B87C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:43:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:43:32 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1hVm24250 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:43:31 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 0DFED2B8E8; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B5C2B8E7 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:43:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The name In-Reply-To: <20031213222345.GA64810@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > You probably eat chocolate while drinking a cabernet! Yo mama puts flowers in you salad! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:53:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1rCBp017363 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:53:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B88F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:50:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:50:21 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1oKm24750 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:50:21 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 7651C2B8E7; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB932B574 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:50:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:50:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at > >noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was glad > to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on celery unless the > celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several weeks. > Natalie > ---------- > Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and > going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much > that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? > Speaking of "bitching"! Theo won this round, in my opinion. Speaking of "bitching," indeed and forsooth! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:54:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1sgBp017399 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B888@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:51:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:51:51 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1pom24859 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:51:51 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 81B832B56A; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765492B563 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:51:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:51:50 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I am VERY close to turning you off forever, Theo. You owe Natalie an > enormous apology, one so large that you are probably incapable of offering > it. But you should work on it - you really should. The hole in your soul > is enormous. Worry about it. Oh fuck off. "hole in your soul." Just fuck off. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:57:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1vQBp017443 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:57:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021911F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:54:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:53:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1rkm25017 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:53:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBE1rjrm005930 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:53:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:54:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8310080873.20031213195409@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 13, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >> > I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at >> >noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was glad >> to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on celery unless the >> celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several weeks. >> Natalie >> ---------- >> Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and >> going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much >> that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? >> Speaking of "bitching"! > Theo won this round, in my opinion. It's not a contest. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:00:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE20DBp017512 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:00:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:57:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:57:22 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE1vMm25221 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:57:22 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DE8122B8FF; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D456B2B8FC for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:57:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <8310080873.20031213195409@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > > Theo won this round, in my opinion. > > It's not a contest. I think it's a fight. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:33:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2XMBp019163 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:33:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B8C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:30:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 834921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:30:31 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBE2UVm27006 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:30:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:30:26 PST Message-ID: <20031214023026.51547.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:30:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't get Fox Sports and thus won't see the > basketball game. I'm glad to > know that I've got "It's a Wonderful Life" to fall > back on since I'm in the > mood for tv. I also stumbled upon the 1958 Miss > America pageant while > messing with the tv. It's on a channel called Trio. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I thought we got Fox Sports, but it's Sports South, and there's a Vandy game on there. We just watched "A Charlie Brown Christmas", and now I see where I've been making my mistake. According to Sally, on Christmas Eve, one leaves frozen broccoli out for Santa. And all this time I just thought I had been naughty. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 04:01:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDA1S7w000651 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:01:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7B8B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 835047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBE2emm27471 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:40:19 PST Message-ID: <20031214024019.46131.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:40:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Theo Groothof wrote: > In a message dated 12/13/2003 4:09:59 PM, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > > >What was Theo's profession before retirement? > ------- > As I've told you, it was associated with "words". I > was a journalist before I > arrived in this country. And even if you don't have > any respect for that > profession, I will not allow you to insult me. Theo, I assure you that, in the main, I regard journalism as a very respectable profession. And I certainly have no intent to insult you. Please forgive me if it sounded that way. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 04:01:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDA1m7w000656 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B8C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 835056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:41:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE2f8m27497 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:41:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBE2f7W1025063 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:41:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBE2f4Wq024997; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:41:04 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213184321.00a30220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:43:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <3FDBB4D6.7080308@swbell.net> References: <200312121936.hBCJaw923494@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:54 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>Very well, I will cite closer to home. >>...or the ones who hand a fractious child, first a lollipop, and then, when >>good and sticky, a kleenex that will stick to every finger and be picked >>off as lint for the majority of a 700 mile car ride? (My mother, in a >>desperate bid to amuse my daughter, with very good results). > > > This is brilliant. I'm still laughing at the image. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 04:02:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDA2i7w000670 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:02:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7B8C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:42:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 835066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:42:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE2g4m27559 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:42:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBE2g2W1025714 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:42:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBE2fxWq025667; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:41:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213184406.00b9f420@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:44:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <3FDBB5A7.9040205@swbell.net> References: <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213084913.00b72670@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213112651.00b99260@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:58 PM 12/13/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I saw a great horned owl yesterday on my way home from work. > It swooped down over the highway and settled in a tree. >That was really cool. We have one in the neighborhood that >we hear hooting all the time, but I've only seen that one once. Why does this make me think of Myles? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 04:34:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDAYE7w001187 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 04:34:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B8F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:13:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 835572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:13:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE3DYm29258 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:13:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBE3DX2f024426 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:13:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBE3DWJC024396; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:13:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031213191534.00ba6bf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:16:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting In-Reply-To: <20031214024019.46131.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:40 PM 12/13/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Theo, I assure you that, in the main, I regard >journalism as a very respectable profession. And I >certainly have no intent to insult you. Please >forgive me if it sounded that way. You could try to be a little more respectful, Lynne. Respect your elders at least. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 05:14:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDBEc7w001715 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:14:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00219231@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:53:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 836641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:53:58 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBE3rvm31651 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:53:58 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:53:45 PST Message-ID: <20031214035345.72133.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031213191534.00ba6bf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > You could try to be a little more respectful, Lynne. > Respect your elders at > least. I'm suitably chastened, I trust. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 05:21:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDBL07w001819 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:21:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7B9F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:00:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 837711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:00:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Oyruht/6XAXRki8ykdRzSjadNjlAgWQg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBE40Gm32519 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:00:16 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DD230581 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310612382D for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:00:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> References: <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:00:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 2:13 PM -0800 12/13/03, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Ha! I slay myself If only. Ken Miller Paul Stone School of Netiquette From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 05:31:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDBVr7w002165 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:31:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7BBBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:11:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 841412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:11:12 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBE4BCm02392 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:11:12 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:11:07 PST Message-ID: <20031214041107.63378.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:11:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > At 2:13 PM -0800 12/13/03, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > >Ha! I slay myself > > If only. > > Ken Miller > Paul Stone School of Netiquette Poor Hog! No respect. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:02:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDK2U7w008836 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:02:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C0E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 7:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 852953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:41:46 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBECfkm05361 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:41:46 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:41:35 PST Message-ID: <20031214124135.22588.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:41:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Saddam! 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:12:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDKC87w008927 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:12:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C0E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 7:51:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f63.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBECpOm05763 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:51:19 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:51:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Ohmigawd Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:51:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 12:51:19.0121 (UTC) FILETIME=[F803F410:01C3C240] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Saddam Hussein's been captured! _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:15:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDKFO7w008971 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:15:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C0EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 7:54:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:54:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f18.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBECsem05926 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 07:54:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 04:54:35 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:54:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ohmigawd Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:54:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 12:54:35.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CCD1BF0:01C3C241] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Saddam Hussein's been captured! 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Run the FREE McAfee online computer scan! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDKND7w009025 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:23:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C0F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 8:02:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:02:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f52.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBED2Tm06300 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:02:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:02:23 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:02:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:02:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 13:02:23.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[84409180:01C3C242] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU AnnB: > > I am VERY close to turning you off forever, Theo. You owe Natalie an > > enormous apology, one so large that you are probably incapable of >offering > > it. But you should work on it - you really should. The hole in your soul > > is enormous. Worry about it. > >Oh fuck off. "hole in your soul." Just fuck off I can't get past Bethany's threat. Bet Theo's quaking at the turning you off forever image. _________________________________________________________________ Cell phone ‘switch’ rules are taking effect — find out more here. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:36:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDKat7w009215 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:36:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C0F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 8:16:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:16:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBED6Bm06541 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:06:11 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBED4pIi016056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:04:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:06:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >I can't get past Bethany's threat. Bet Theo's quaking at the turning >you off forever image. When I have time I will explain the difference between a threat, a promise, and a commitment. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 14:58:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDKwG7w009419 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:58:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C12C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 8:37:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 853761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:37:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f29.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEDbWm08016 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:37:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:37:26 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.224 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:37:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.224] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:37:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 13:37:26.0860 (UTC) FILETIME=[69B768C0:01C3C247] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I can't get past Bethany's threat. Bet Theo's quaking at the turning > >you off forever image. >When I have time I will explain the difference between a threat, a >promise, and a commitment. Yeah, whatever. I'm not holding my breath. This is the 'net. Ignoring someone's the easiest thing to do. Broadcasting the intent and calling attention to one's self is pointless showmanship. _________________________________________________________________ Cell phone ‘switch’ rules are taking effect — find out more here. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 15:49:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDLnr7w009994 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:49:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219A25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 9:29:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:29:08 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEET8m11126 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:29:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-185.gwi.net [216.195.152.185]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBEET559039287; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:29:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214092806.00b1a990@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:29:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:37 PM 12/14/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >I can't get past Bethany's threat. Bet Theo's quaking at the turning >> >you off forever image. > >>When I have time I will explain the difference between a threat, a >>promise, and a commitment. > >Yeah, whatever. I'm not holding my breath. > >This is the 'net. Ignoring someone's the easiest thing to do. >Broadcasting the intent and calling attention to one's self >is pointless showmanship. Whaddya expect? She a lawyer---you know, one of that single-helix crowd... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 15:50:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDLop7w010010 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:50:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C195@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 9:30:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 854800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:30:07 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEEU7m11226 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:30:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-185.gwi.net [216.195.152.185]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBEEU459039429; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:30:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214092944.00b36d68@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:30:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: References: <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:00 PM 12/13/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >At 2:13 PM -0800 12/13/03, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >Ha! I slay myself > >If only. HIs best idea yet... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:18:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMID7w010352 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:18:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C1F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 9:57:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:57:29 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEEvSm12957 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:57:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214145723.BFHI21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:57:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7A54.4040606@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:57:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: <20031214001757.28041.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> <3FDBB4C9.4090707@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>>Isn's Suze Ormond one? (CNBC) >> >>I don't understand the question. Who is Suze Ormond? One what? And >>what is CNBC? > > of my second favorite electric teevee show (after Rukeyser). On the > electric teevee, which you were discussing. CNBC is an electric teevee > . This answers my first and third questions, but not the middle one. Isn't she one what? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:21:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMLB7w010392 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C1F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:00:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:00:26 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEF0Qm13172 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:00:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214150021.BGBQ21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7B06.8010905@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:00:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Indian Teachers Banned From Knitting References: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <163.29a1c4a6.2d0d1231@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: >>What was Theo's profession before retirement? > ------- > As I've told you, it was associated with "words". I was a journalist before I > arrived in this country. And even if you don't have any respect for that > profession, I will not allow you to insult me. So now you know, and if Alyce died I'm confused. Why do you consider it insulting for somebody to ask what your profession was before retirement, and why would you think Lynne might have no respect for it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:21:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMLl7w010408 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:21:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C1FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:01:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:01:03 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEF12m13230 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:01:02 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-185.gwi.net [216.195.152.185]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBEF11Gn000277 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:01:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214100035.00b30808@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:01:11 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Feeling better, Natalie? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are you on the mend this morning? Can you now, at least, hear the phone ring?? Did the toilets work through the night? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:23:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMNB7w010417 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219A6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:02:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:02:17 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEF2Hm13315 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:02:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214150212.BGPM21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:02:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7B75.40504@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:02:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: >>I don't have any. And am not going out again into the elements. I'm >>also not finding eating appealing at all. It's hard to shovel food in. >> I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at >>noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was glad > > to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on celery unless the > celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several weeks. > Natalie > ---------- > Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and > going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much > that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? > Speaking of "bitching"! ? Why would I want to try that? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:26:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMQS7w010448 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:26:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00219A6D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:05:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:05:43 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEF5hm13510 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:05:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214150538.BHMX21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:05:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7C43.7040801@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:05:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote: > >>Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and >>going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much >>that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? >>Speaking of "bitching"! > > I am VERY close to turning you off forever, Theo. You owe Natalie an > enormous apology, one so large that you are probably incapable of offering Why do you think she owes me an apology? I find many of Theo's postings goofy, including that one, but it's certainly not the first time we've had food discussions or medical discussions here, and Theo has reminded us many times that she dislikes food and that she has had various unpleasant medical experiences. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:31:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMVh7w010515 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:31:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C1F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:10:59 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEFAwm13804 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:10:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214151053.BISN21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:10:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7D7F.6090207@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:10:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >>> I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at >>>noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was glad >> >>to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on celery unless the >>celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several weeks. >>Natalie >>---------- >>Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and >>going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much >>that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? >>Speaking of "bitching"! > > Theo won this round, in my opinion. This round of what?? I think my brain must have died in the night. Lots of things aren't making sense today. > Speaking of "bitching," indeed and forsooth! I wasn't sure how Theo meant "bitching" -- as in it was bitching fun for her to be in that situation or it was worth bitching about or maybe she saw my description of yesterday's food as my bitching (which strikes me as weird since I didn't see anything particularly bitching about it -- though we were talking about food in relation to colds, iirc, what I ate yesterday is quite normal Saturday fare for me -- nothing unusual, nothing related to bitching). As I said, I'm finding this discussion confusing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:34:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMY07w010567 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:34:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C1FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:13:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:13:15 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEFDFm13963 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:13:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214151309.BJGY21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7E07.5060102@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:13:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: <20031214023026.51547.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031214023026.51547.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I thought we got Fox Sports, but it's Sports South, > and there's a Vandy game on there. We just watched "A > Charlie Brown Christmas", and now I see where I've I watched most of "It's a Wonderful Life" but realized it was lasting longer than I wanted to last, so I turned it off and went to bed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 16:39:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDMdL7w010616 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:39:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C230@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 10:18:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 855977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:18:36 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEFIam14535 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:18:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214151831.BKPD21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:18:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDC7F48.5040101@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:18:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214100035.00b30808@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214100035.00b30808@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Are you on the mend this morning? Can you now, at least, hear the phone > ring?? Did the toilets work through the night? The toilet worked fine. Maybe not really "fine" but ok, as in I have to manipulate the flusher handle in a certain way to make it work, but it does work. Don't know whether I can hear the phone ring since I don't think it has had any occasion to ring, but I do think I can hear better than whenever it was that I barely heard the phone. The ears continue to be my main problem, though -- daggers stabbing and stabbing and stabbing and stabbing. Have never experienced anything like this before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:25:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNP27w011251 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:25:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C2B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:04:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 857307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:04:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f59.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEG4Hm17510 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:04:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:04:11 -0800 Received: from 162.33.242.239 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:04:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.242.239] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:04:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 16:04:11.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9F006A0:01C3C25B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >The ears continue >to be my main problem, though -- daggers stabbing and stabbing and >stabbing and stabbing. Have never experienced anything like this before. I have, and it's darned uncomfortable. It's the eustachain tubes getting blocked (sometimes it's just nasal passages getting blocked during colds, sometimes both - sorry to be graphic, Natalie) If it's any comfort, in my experience discomfort in ears is a sign that things are going to get better soon. _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year — six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:32:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNWm7w011390 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:32:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C2D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:12:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 857433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:12:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEGC3m17892 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:12:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBEGB4KX021018 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:11:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:12:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1946973224.20031214101229@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDC7F48.5040101@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214100035.00b30808@pop.gwi.net> <3FDC7F48.5040101@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The ears continue > to be my main problem, though -- daggers stabbing and stabbing and > stabbing and stabbing. Have never experienced anything like this before. Go to a doctor, Natalie. If your ears are stabbing, you may have an ear infection, which is nothing to fool around with. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:34:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNYQ7w011396 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:34:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C2D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:13:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 857451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:13:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEGDem17950 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:13:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBEGCgKX022029 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:12:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:14:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1339078621.20031214101406@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > If it's any > comfort, in my experience discomfort in ears is a sign that things > are going to get better soon. Does 'daggers stabbing and stabbing and stabbing and stabbing" sound like 'discomfort' to you?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:47:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNli7w011583 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:47:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C2EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:26:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 857878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:26:58 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEGQwm19167 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:26:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C2FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:26:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312141626.hBEGQwm19167@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:26:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:33:04 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > >>> Careful - it is a registered mark. >> >>Then why didn't you indicate that? > >Remember - context is all. > >(I do not know how to enter an R in a circle when I am in PINE.) > >Bethany So glad you're still in PINE! Me too, until they take it away from us next year. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:51:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNpq7w011616 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:51:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C2FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEGV6m19588 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:31:01 PST Message-ID: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:31:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDC7F48.5040101@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: Don't know whether I can hear the phone > ring since I don't > think it has had any occasion to ring, but I do > think I can hear better > than whenever it was that I barely heard the phone. > The ears continue > to be my main problem, though -- daggers stabbing > and stabbing and > stabbing and stabbing. Have never experienced > anything like this before. This is not a normal symptom of a cold, or even a virus. Better see a Dr. tomorrow, your ears should not be painful. Did MSU win? I couldn't find it in the paper. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNw77w011693 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:58:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C334@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:37:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:37:22 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEGbMm20159 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:37:22 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:37:09 PST Message-ID: <20031214163709.45390.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 08:37:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214092806.00b1a990@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Whaddya expect? She a lawyer---you know, one > of that single-helix > crowd... Besides, being demure and reserved is hardly Wordlers-like. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 17:58:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBDNwA7w011696 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:58:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C31C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:37:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:37:24 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEGbOm20179 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:37:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C32E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:37:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200312141637.hBEGbOm20179@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:37:24 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:11:50 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> And don't forget chicken soup (broth, actually). > >I don't have any. And am not going out again into the elements. I'm >also not finding eating appealing at all. It's hard to shovel food in. > I did shovel in some oatmeal this morning and a turkey sandwich at >noon -- had bought a little bag of turkey slices not long ago and was >glad to have it. Tonight I think I'm going to eat cream cheese on >celery unless the celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several >weeks. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Cut it in sticks and set it in a glass of cold water for a couple of hrs. As a matter of fact, having a low appetite is one of the reasons dehydration occurs when you're sick (there's water in most foods). If you don't have broth, do you have bullion? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:05:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE05W7w011821 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:05:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:44:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:44:46 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEGikm20763 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:44:46 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C350@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:44:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200312141644.hBEGikm20763@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:44:46 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:27:44 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> Yes, but it gets boring, and can taste lousy when your >> passages are gummed up. The idea of liquids, is to >> flush the bacteria out of your system as quickly as >> possible, and guard against dehydration, as mentioned already. > >Why would dehydration be likely? 1) Eating and drinking less than usual due to feeling lousy. 2) Sneezing and coughing lots of water droplets out of the body 3) Digestive tract working less efficiently (or sometimes, much too quickly!) >Re flushing the bacteria away, I'm >happy to report that my klutzily-wired flusher worked when I tried it >again a little while ago. I hope it continues to work since all this >liquid consumption will have me running to the bathroom all night, and >the one with the broken flusher is much closer than the cold little one. NOTE: It's not necessary to drink more than the recommended 8 glasses of water/day. The admonition is a reminder to take care of yourself, though you may not feel like it. > Then again, I guess I could just not flush it until morning. But that >would make me feel worse -- just like my dirty house is making me feel >worse. No matter how I feel tomorrow, I am going to do some >housecleaning because a dirty house damages my psyche, and psyches and >bodies are closely related. The nasty rain outside isn't helping anything. >Alas and Alack. I am the voice of woe. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I can tell you don't feel good. Wish I was there to cook you chicken soup! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:14:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0EL7w011912 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:14:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C349@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:53:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 858714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:53:36 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEGram21732 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:53:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219BC6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 11:53:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200312141653.hBEGram21732@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:53:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:18:32 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >> Are you on the mend this morning? Can you now, at least, hear the phone >> ring?? Did the toilets work through the night? > >The toilet worked fine. Maybe not really "fine" but ok, as in I have to >manipulate the flusher handle in a certain way to make it work, but it >does work. Don't know whether I can hear the phone ring since I don't >think it has had any occasion to ring, but I do think I can hear better >than whenever it was that I barely heard the phone. The ears continue >to be my main problem, though -- daggers stabbing and stabbing and >stabbing and stabbing. Have never experienced anything like this before. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Lady, somehow I missed the ear pain symptom in the list. Get thee to a Dr. or emergency room so they can determine if this is a bacterial infection. If you have double ear infection (hence the pain), you need to take care of it. Particularly if you are taking decongestants and it's not relieving the pressure. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:25:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0Po7w012117 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:25:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C38B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 12:05:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:05:05 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEH54m22564 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:05:04 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:04:59 PST Message-ID: <20031214170459.34375.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:04:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312141644.hBEGikm20763@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Alas and Alack. I am the voice of woe. > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I can tell you don't feel good. Wish I was there to > cook you chicken soup! > clo I was wishing last night Natalie lived just up the road. I had just fixed home-made soup, cornbread, and peach cobbler. She might have been able to eat a little soup, anyway. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 18:33:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE0Xt7w012204 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:33:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00219BCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 12:13:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 859333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:13:09 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f65.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEHD9m23254 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:13:09 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:13:04 -0800 Received: from 162.33.243.101 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:13:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.33.243.101] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:13:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2003 17:13:04.0047 (UTC) FILETIME=[88E17BF0:01C3C265] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: >Does 'daggers stabbing and stabbing and stabbing and stabbing" sound >like 'discomfort' to you?! I don't know - intense ear pain often accompanies my colds. I don't go see doctors when that happens but that's me. _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:43:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1ho7w012978 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:43:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C43C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 860776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEIN4m27397 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:23:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214182259.DNBG27696.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:22:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDCAA84.9030204@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:23:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > If it's any > comfort, in my experience discomfort in ears is a sign that things > are going to get better soon. That is a happy thought. But the ear pain has been present since the beginning. Or maybe there was a cough first. I think there was. Maybe the ear problem came the next day. Anyway, it's definitely been the major problem for the past several days. Spencer is getting tired of hearing me say out loud from time to time, including several times in the middle of the night, "I CAN'T STAND THIS!!!!!!!!!" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:44:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1iv7w013008 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:44:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C443@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:24:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 860843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:24:11 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEIOBm27507 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:24:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214182405.DNIO27696.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDCAAC7.6090903@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:24:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <1339078621.20031214101406@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1339078621.20031214101406@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >>If it's any >>comfort, in my experience discomfort in ears is a sign that things >>are going to get better soon. > > Does 'daggers stabbing and stabbing and stabbing and stabbing" sound > like 'discomfort' to you?! Does to me. Major discomfort. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1lm7w013083 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:47:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219CA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:27:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 860924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:27:02 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEIR2m27714 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:27:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214182656.DNZD27696.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:26:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:26:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This is not a normal symptom of a cold, or even a > virus. Better see a Dr. tomorrow, your ears should > not be painful. I don't think I've ever tried making a spur-of-the-moment doctor's appointment. I don't know how easy it is to get in. Will perhaps try it since I really am thinking that I might just kill myself if the ear-stabbing doesn't stop. > Did MSU win? I couldn't find it in the paper. Yes. I've forgotten the score, but it was respectable -- not just by a point or two (though not a landslide either). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:50:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1oC7w013134 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:50:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C449@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:29:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 861065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:29:20 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEITKm28104 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:29:20 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:29:15 PST Message-ID: <20031214182915.77428.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDCAAC7.6090903@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: Does to me. Major discomfort. I really don't think it would be wise to wait until tomorrow to get of the bottom of this. ER should not be busy on Sunday, why don't you just toddle on over there? Please? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:50:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1ok7w013141 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:50:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219CB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:30:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 861093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:30:00 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEIU0m28211 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:30:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031214182954.DOPP27696.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:29:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDCAC24.5040708@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:29:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth References: <200312141637.hBEGbOm20179@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312141637.hBEGbOm20179@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>celery unless the celery is hopelessly wilted. I've had it for several >>weeks. > > Cut it in sticks and set it in a glass of cold water for a couple of hrs. It was ok. Not extremely fresh and crispy but not totally limp. > As a matter of fact, having a low appetite is one of the reasons dehydration > occurs when you're sick (there's water in most foods). If you don't have > broth, do you have bullion? No. Neither of those items is among the things I normally have on hand. The only time I would buy something like that would be if called for in a recipe. I do have chicken-flavored boullion granules -- just thought about that. That's because they're an ingredient in my "quick pate spread" (one of my standard party foods). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 19:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE1ui7w013189 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:56:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219CD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 861547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEIZwm29354 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:35:52 PST Message-ID: <20031214183552.87264.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:35:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDCAC24.5040708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: I do have chicken-flavored boullion > granules -- just > thought about that. That's because they're an > ingredient in my "quick > pate spread" (one of my standard party foods). The granules will work, but much better get some medical advice. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:07:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE27U7w013312 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:07:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C4B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 861940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:46:44 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEIkhm30384 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:46:43 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp03.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.123]) by smtpout03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA973M9GAMYF5C2 for (sender ); Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25839 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2003 18:45:53 -0000 Received: from 1cust163.tnt5.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.134.163) by smtp03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2003 18:45:53 -0000 Message-ID: <014701c3c272$b0223d00$a3868744@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031214023026.51547.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDC7E07.5060102@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:47:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 3:5:2638535655 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I watched most of "It's a Wonderful Life" but realized it was lasting > longer than I wanted to last, so I turned it off and went to bed. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I watched all of it yet again, thought of Nancy Harwood and her lifetime record of never having seen it, teared up again at the final scene of the fistfuls of dollars and the $25K line of credit from Paris -- Hoo-ah! brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:16:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2G77w013444 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:16:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C4C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 13:55:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 862228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:55:20 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEItKm31377 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:55:20 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp02.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.122]) by smtpout01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA973NRHAVKNPCS for (sender ); Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13673 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2003 18:54:05 -0000 Received: from 1cust163.tnt5.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.134.163) by smtp02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2003 18:54:05 -0000 Message-ID: <017201c3c273$d48ddb80$a3868744@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:55:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 2:3:3198385540 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did MSU win? I couldn't find it in the paper. No, Michigan State lost to Kentucky at Ford Field, on a platform raised three feet off the Lions' gridiron, in front of 78,129 spectators, the new record. I took heart from the 13 solid minutes by UKy's seven-footer from Poland, Lukasz Obrzut. I have been teaching everybody how to pronounce his name, though a simple "Woo" works fine. :) brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:22:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2M17w013485 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:22:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C4D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 14:01:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 862363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:01:14 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEJ1Em31744 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:01:14 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp02.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.122]) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA973N4XAMXN4K2 for (sender ); Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15341 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2003 19:00:09 -0000 Received: from 1cust163.tnt5.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.134.163) by smtp02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2003 19:00:09 -0000 Message-ID: <017801c3c274$ad4ff840$a3868744@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Saddam in a spider hole Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:01:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 2:2:3064154311 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The news made me think of Torkel asking the list years ago, while translating James Lee Burke's Heaven's Prisoners, what a spider hole in Vietnam could be. Encouraging as the news is, I hope this doesn't mean that Survivor will be preempted tonight. brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:23:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2ND7w013498 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C4EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 14:02:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 862039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:02:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEIqPm30948 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:52:25 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBEIp6Ii019086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:51:08 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:52:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312141626.hBEGQwm19167@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312141626.hBEGQwm19167@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >So glad you're still in PINE! Me too, until they take it away from us >next year. PINE forever! I hope not to outlive it! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:25:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2Ps7w013534 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:25:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C4EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 14:05:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 862224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:05:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEIt8m31360 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:55:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBEIroIi019624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:53:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:55:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth In-Reply-To: <3FDC7C43.7040801@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <84.1e92020b.2d0d12e9@aol.com> <3FDC7C43.7040801@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>Why don't you try eating through a hole in your throat for a few months, and >>>going down to less than 80 pounds? And then your stomach shrinking so much >>>that you get a full feeling so quickly that you cannot regain a normal weight? >>>Speaking of "bitching"! >Why do you think she owes me an apology? It is quite disgusting of her to respond to a listmember's report of illness by suggesting that she take on another person's illness or ill state of health as well. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:52:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2ql7w013906 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:52:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C52A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 14:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 863204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:32:00 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEJW0m01053 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:32:00 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:31:55 PST Message-ID: <20031214193155.96949.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <017201c3c273$d48ddb80$a3868744@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bogris01 wrote: > No, Michigan State lost to Kentucky at Ford Field, > on a platform > raised three feet off the Lions' gridiron, in front > of 78,129 > spectators, the new record. I took heart from the > 13 solid > minutes by UKy's seven-footer from Poland, Lukasz > Obrzut. I have > been teaching everybody how to pronounce his name, > though a > simple "Woo" works fine. :) I saw that one. Tubby's kids look pretty good for so early in the season. Go Big Blue! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 20:53:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE2rs7w013934 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:53:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00219D78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 14:33:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 863227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:33:08 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEJX8m01150 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:33:08 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:32:44 PST Message-ID: <20031214193244.2293.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Saddam in a spider hole To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <017801c3c274$ad4ff840$a3868744@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Brad Grissom wrote: > Encouraging as the news is, I hope this doesn't mean > that > Survivor will be preempted tonight. Good gosh, no! Priorities. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 21:03:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE33F7w014148 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:03:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 863501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEJgSm01838 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:42:28 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B1B752B8FE; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C242B8F8 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:42:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <200312141626.hBEGQwm19167@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > So glad you're still in PINE! Me too, until they take it away from us > next year. Damn. I didn't know that. Next year, like in a few days next year? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 21:33:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE3XT7w014607 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:33:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C5AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 15:12:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 864463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:12:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEKCgm04212 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:12:42 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBEKCerm028630 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:12:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:13:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <101351185.20031214141309@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Karen: >>Does 'daggers stabbing and stabbing and stabbing and stabbing" sound >>like 'discomfort' to you?! > I don't know - intense ear pain often accompanies my colds. I don't > go see doctors when that happens but that's me. Okay. The only time I've felt like Natalie describes, I had an ear infection. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 13 21:35:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE3Yx7w014635 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:34:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00219E35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 15:14:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 864567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:14:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBEKEBm04345 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:14:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBEKDCKX020858 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:13:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:14:38 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: >> This is not a normal symptom of a cold, or even a >> virus. Better see a Dr. tomorrow, your ears should >> not be painful. > I don't think I've ever tried making a spur-of-the-moment doctor's > appointment. I don't know how easy it is to get in. Will perhaps try > it since I really am thinking that I might just kill myself if the > ear-stabbing doesn't stop. Repeat "I really am thinking that I might just kill myself if the ear-stabbing doesn't stop." to them, please. That should make it easier to get in. Ears aren't anything to fool with, being so close to the brain. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 00:11:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE6BL7w017324 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:11:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C81C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 17:50:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 869555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:50:33 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBEMeWm14103 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:40:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 27613 invoked by uid 1003); 14 Dec 2003 22:40:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:40:31 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth Message-ID: <20031214224031.GA23866@words-l.org> References: <20031213221359.GA59456@words-l.org> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <3FDB4E6B.7020209@maynor.net> <002e01c3c1be$c5d196a0$bac5c597@computer> <5.2.1.1.0.20031214092944.00b36d68@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214092944.00b36d68@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:30:04AM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 08:00 PM 12/13/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >At 2:13 PM -0800 12/13/03, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>Ha! I slay myself > > > >If only. > > HIs best idea yet... Indeed. Ayeh. 'Tis true. Forsooth. Perzackly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 00:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE6sU7w018186 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:54:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C8BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 18:33:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 871339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:33:42 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBENXfm18913 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:33:41 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBENXe2f019321 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:33:40 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBENXcJC019265 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:33:39 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031214153224.00a67e80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:36:19 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: High Tea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I was still hungry afterwards and ordered another delicious scone but it was fun. I met Sandra and the rest of our book club at Lovejoy's Tea Room in San Francisco. She has shorter hair and looks great. Working hard and unsure of her love situation in Texas at this point. She says "Hi" to everyone. We're going to read Da Vinci Code next. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE8147w019014 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:01:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C932@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 19:40:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 872938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:40:15 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF0eFm23416 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:40:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215004010.GGIG4035.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:40:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:40:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Repeat "I really am thinking that I might just kill myself if the > ear-stabbing doesn't stop." to them, please. That should make it > easier to get in. Ears aren't anything to fool with, being so close to > the brain. I read this note right after it arrived and realized that I was in fact going to kill myself if I couldn't stop the pain. So I hopped in the car and went to the emergency room, where I had to wait for four hours. Just got home. The doctor agreed that this kind of thing is very painful (I didn't mention suicide to him -- I was mainly thinking then about how hungry Spencer must be getting), but he laughed at the part about the brain and said he didn't think I needed to worry about brain contamination. Anyway, he wrote me three prescriptions, including one for pain medicine to help me survive until the other medicines cure the problem (upper respiratory something or other). But guess what. By that time all the pharmacies were closed. So I've got to hang on until tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to survive. Sickness sux big time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:04:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE84R7w019078 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:04:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C949@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 19:43:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 872990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:43:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF0hcm23566 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:43:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBF0ha6X029846 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:43:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:44:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Anyway, he wrote me three prescriptions, including one > for pain medicine to help me survive until the other medicines cure the > problem (upper respiratory something or other). But guess what. By > that time all the pharmacies were closed. So I've got to hang on until > tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to survive. Sickness sux big > time. There's no pharmacy in the hospital? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:07:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE87t7w019124 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:07:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C94E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 19:47:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:47:06 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF0l6m23797 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:47:06 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121500470001600sssnne> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:47:00 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: Wearily he returns Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:46:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm back. What'd I miss? It's been an exhausting 5 days. Thanks to those who backchanneled condolences. Alec, it was so nice of you to sign the guest book in the obituary. Is it tacky to post pictures of the flowers etc on the Web? Those of you who *think* your funeral plans are prearranged, prepaid, and all set, please make sure there's a price-increase insurance clause and that exact instructions are left for how you want any service to be conducted. We had to pay extra and wing it and it would have been so much easier had Granny spelled out her desires a little more besides two particular songs and a Psalm reading. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE88D7w019130 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:08:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C93E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 19:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:47:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF0lOm23849 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:47:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBF0lNW1018050 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:47:23 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBF0lJWq017981; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:47:20 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031214164908.00a73d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:49:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> References: <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:40 PM 12/14/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: contamination. Anyway, he wrote me three prescriptions, including one >for pain medicine to help me survive until the other medicines cure the >problem (upper respiratory something or other). But guess what. By >that time all the pharmacies were closed. So I've got to hang on until >tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to survive. Sickness sux big >time. They usually have pharmacies open where the emergency rooms are. No? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:11:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE8BL7w019186 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:11:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C945@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 19:50:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:50:32 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF0oWm24064 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:50:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215005027.HDMN6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDD0554.5010700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:50:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > There's no pharmacy in the hospital? No. Or at least not one open to the public. Probably there's a pharmaceutical department for in-patients. They have in the ER office a list of all the pharamcies in town with their hours. At least that kept me from having to run around all over town on the chance that there was one open. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:13:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE8Df7w019209 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:13:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C95B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 19:52:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:52:53 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF0qqm24472 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:52:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.173.27]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215005247.HEFO6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:52:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDD05E0.6000607@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:52:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031214164908.00a73d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031214164908.00a73d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > They usually have pharmacies open where the emergency rooms are. No? No. There is a small pharmacy on Hospital Road, but it's not open on Sundays at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:21:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE8Lk7w019327 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:21:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7C976@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 20:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:00:57 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF10vm25084 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:00:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBF10t6X012121 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:00:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:01:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1854152545.20031214190125@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDD0554.5010700@maynor.net> References: <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> <3FDD0554.5010700@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > No. Or at least not one open to the public. Probably there's a > pharmaceutical department for in-patients. They have in the ER office a > list of all the pharamcies in town with their hours. At least that kept > me from having to run around all over town on the chance that there was > one open. Sorry! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:24:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE8Ot7w019367 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:24:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C968@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 20:04:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 873676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:04:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF146m25263 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:04:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBF1442f017108 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:04:05 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBF143JC017089; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:04:04 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031214170504.00a2eed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:06:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDD0554.5010700@maynor.net> References: <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:50 PM 12/14/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >>There's no pharmacy in the hospital? > >No. Or at least not one open to the public. Probably there's a >pharmaceutical department for in-patients. They have in the ER office a >list of all the pharamcies in town with their hours. At least that kept >me from having to run around all over town on the chance that there was >one open. Sometimes they will give you a couple of pills to get you started until morning. Sorry that you have to wait. You should have asked about the hospital pharmacy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 02:40:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE8eg7w019613 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:40:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7C9A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 874039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF1Jrm26181 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBF1Jp4j025955 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:19:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDD0BDF.2060506@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:18:23 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> <20031214163101.30536.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDCAB72.90104@maynor.net> <1581976372.20031214141438@WordWrite.com> <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> <110151818.20031214184406@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031214170504.00a2eed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's time to hit the brandy/bourbon, Natalie. I hate it when colds go to my ears. I hope they wrote you for some Codeine 3. If not, you can always get painkillers on the net according to the 27 pieces of spam I got today ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 03:30:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE9Uu7w020603 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:30:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7C9EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 875138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:10:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF2A7m29134 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:10:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021A25E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:10:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200312150210.hBF2A7m29134@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:10:06 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:23:00 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> If it's any >> comfort, in my experience discomfort in ears is a sign that things >> are going to get better soon. > >That is a happy thought. But the ear pain has been present since the >beginning. Or maybe there was a cough first. I think there was. Maybe >the ear problem came the next day. Anyway, it's definitely been the >major problem for the past several days. Spencer is getting tired of >hearing me say out loud from time to time, including several times in >the middle of the night, "I CAN'T STAND THIS!!!!!!!!!" > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Intense pain is a message. Don't stand it. Go to the emergency room. There are times not to be tough. A perforated eardrum is no joke. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 03:32:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE9Wv7w020639 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:32:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7CA02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:12:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 875174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:12:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF2C8m29341 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:12:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021A294@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:12:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312150212.hBF2C8m29341@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:12:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Alec Spoke The Truth To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 10:35:52 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I do have chicken-flavored boullion >> granules -- just >> thought about that. That's because they're an >> ingredient in my "quick >> pate spread" (one of my standard party foods). > > >The granules will work, but much better get some >medical advice. > The granules work great for this purpose - though gatorade will also do. Salty liquids balance electrolytes. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 03:43:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE9hS7w020772 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:43:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7CA14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:22:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 875339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:21:54 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF2Lsm29981 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:21:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021A2A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:21:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312150221.hBF2Lsm29981@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:21:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:18:23 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >It's time to hit the brandy/bourbon, Natalie. I hate it >when colds go to my ears. I hope they wrote you for some >Codeine 3. If not, you can always get painkillers on the >net according to the 27 pieces of spam I got today ;). > > Please separate these two pieces of advice! Don't drink if you're going to take codeine as well. In spite of the dr. laughed abt ears being close to the brain, I'm glad that you did go in. The three medicines will help. In the meantime, decongestant, and a heating pad at your ears actually may reduce the pain a little - in conjunction with the aspirin, of course! I have had earaches this bad before, and I am so sorry you have one. It hurts like crazy! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 03:46:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE9kX7w020812 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:46:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7CA22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 875497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBF2Pim30278 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:25:44 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:25:01 PST Message-ID: <20031215022501.6098.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDD02EB.7050503@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Just got home. The doctor agreed that this kind > of thing is very > painful (I didn't mention suicide to him -- I was > mainly thinking then > about how hungry Spencer must be getting), but he > laughed at the part > about the brain and said he didn't think I needed to > worry about brain > contamination. Anyway, he wrote me three > prescriptions, including one > for pain medicine to help me survive until the other > medicines cure the > problem (upper respiratory something or other). But > guess what. By > that time all the pharmacies were closed. So I've > got to hang on until > tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to > survive. Sickness sux big > time. Upper respiratory? Daggers in ears?? Now is the time to break out the booze, since you are not taking any medications yet. Every town should have a 24-hour pharmacy. Perhaps you can lose yourself in "Survivor". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 03:49:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE9n87w020849 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:49:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7CA2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:28:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 875586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:28:19 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBF2SJm30473 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:28:19 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:28:13 PST Message-ID: <20031215022813.14725.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:28:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Wearily he returns To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > I'm back. What'd I miss? > > It's been an exhausting 5 days. Thanks to those who > backchanneled > condolences. Alec, it was so nice of you to sign the > guest book in the > obituary. Is it tacky to post pictures of the > flowers etc on the Web? Glad you're back. Not tacky, post away. Natalie nearly lost her ears through negligence. That's about it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 03:51:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBE9pb7w020909 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:51:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7CA3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 875674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBF2Ulm30619 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:30:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:30:42 PST Message-ID: <20031215023042.94915.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031214164908.00a73d60@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > They usually have pharmacies open where the > emergency rooms are. No? They used to have one at the hospital here, but they will no longer fill scrips for private individuals, more's the pity. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 05:30:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEBUQ7w022480 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:30:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021A57A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 23:09:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 882338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:09:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF49Zm07604 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:09:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBF49Xrm018356 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:09:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:09:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <576171999.20031214220949@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: No Survivor comments? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm surprised. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 05:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEBWM7w022498 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:32:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7CD55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 23:11:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 882733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:11:32 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF4BWm07855 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:11:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-117.gwi.net [216.195.151.117]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBF4BU57048829 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:11:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:11:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <576171999.20031214220949@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You're surprised there are no comments or you are surprised at who won? We can't comment yet because it isn't over on the West Coast. >I'm surprised. > >Karen bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 05:36:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEBa37w022529 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:36:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7CD7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 23:15:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 882835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:15:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF4FCm08080 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:15:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBF4F36X013543 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:15:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:15:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1868043426.20031214221528@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, bonniev wrote: > You're surprised there are no comments or you are surprised at who won? We > can't comment yet because it isn't over on the West Coast. I didn't realize that ever stopped you; I thought I'd seen comments before it was over here, but maybe not. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 05:39:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEBdV7w022589 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:39:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7CD6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 23:18:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 882951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:18:41 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF4Iem08267 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:18:41 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-117.gwi.net [216.195.151.117]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBF4Id57049615 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:18:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231820.00b30678@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:18:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <1868043426.20031214221528@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > You're surprised there are no comments or you are surprised at who won? We > > can't comment yet because it isn't over on the West Coast. > >I didn't realize that ever stopped you; I thought I'd seen comments >before it was over here, but maybe not. >Karen You always make me sound like such an asshole. Thanks a lot. I'm going to bed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 05:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEBl07w022712 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 05:47:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7CDA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 23:26:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 883195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:26:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBF4Q9m08706 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:26:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBF4Q86X022314 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:26:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:26:33 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <958150679.20031214222633@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231820.00b30678@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231107.00bc1c88@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031214231820.00b30678@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 14, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>bonniev wrote: >> > You're surprised there are no comments or you are surprised at who won? We >> > can't comment yet because it isn't over on the West Coast. >> >>I didn't realize that ever stopped you; I thought I'd seen comments >>before it was over here, but maybe not. >>Karen > You always make me sound like such an asshole. Thanks a lot. I'm going to > bed. I'm sorry; I wasn't meaning to single you out. I have no idea who regularly makes comments. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 06:06:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEC6x7w022983 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 06:06:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021A616@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 14 Dec 2003 23:46:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 883631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:46:08 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBF4k8m09835 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:46:08 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:45:59 PST Message-ID: <20031215044559.21401.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:45:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <958150679.20031214222633@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I'm sorry; I wasn't meaning to single you out. I > have no idea who > regularly makes comments. When will they start a series of new shows? Feb sweeps? What does everyone watch now? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 13:39:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEJd57w029790 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:39:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7D292@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 7:18:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 894428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:18:07 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFCI7m27702 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:18:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 9058 invoked by uid 89); 15 Dec 2003 12:18:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20031215121802.9057.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> References: <576171999.20031214220949@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <576171999.20031214220949@WordWrite.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:18:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes: > I'm surprised. Surprised that there are no comments, or surprised at who won? It was too early to make comments last night since I think it would be hard to make any kind of comment re the final scenes without giving away things to west coasters. As for who won, I am not surprised. I had decided she was likely to win. I'm not totally sorry about it. Of the final three, I was for her. But did the others ever find out about her childish behavior of throwing away the fish and her plan of hiding things if she thought she was getting kicked off? -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 13:47:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEJlm7w029905 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:47:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D29E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 7:26:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 894635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:26:53 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFCQrm28880 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:26:53 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:28:15 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-111-113.nb.no [128.39.111.113]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2RZPP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:27:49 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215132447.027d9eb8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:25:15 +0100 Subject: Re: proud Papa moment In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:26 10.12.2003 -0500 skrev Paul Barfoot: >I don't know if I mentioned here that my son will be working as a Wilderness education Counselor for Eckerd Youth Alternatives >http://www.eckerd.org/index2.htm > > he just got his assignment and it will be to their camp in Boomer, North Carolina. They're flying him down this weekend for an orientation session and around the first of the year he will report for three weeks of training. It does my heart good to see him find what seems to be the perfect job for his skills and interests. Congratulations to you both! (I am a little behind on my e-mail) Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 14:31:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEKVv7w030473 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:31:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021AB39@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:10:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 895743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:10:16 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFDAFm31807 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:10:15 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:12:38 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-111-113.nb.no [128.39.111.113]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2RZ8Q; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:12:28 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215133441.027dfeb8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:09:55 +0100 Subject: WHTMIH In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There and back again. Actually it was a longer trip to and from Hévís than it usually is for me to New York. There were also some ambiguosity in the e-mail messages which had been sent out to tell us where to meet up. It was agreed that we should meet at the information desk beside the exit from customs control at the Ferihegy airport (Budapest). What nobody had considered was that there are three terminals and one of them is quite a few kilometers away from the other two - with no communication system except for taking a taxi. So for some hours there were two groups, one in each of the terminals which are withing walking distance of each other and one poor single person wayting in the old terminal. However, we managed to meet and not less important eat lunch before we went to the train station and our three hours train ride to Kelesthy - from there a minibus to Hévís. Hévís lies by a thermic lake, and all the hotels offer cures etc. It was a little strange at first to see at all hours (at least between 8 AM and 8 PM) people sitting in the hotel cafe clothed in bathrobes. After we had checked in we went out for dinner at a restaurant which specialised on Hungarian food. Goose liver is filling. The goulash was just strong enough to be very good, also for my cold. The authenticity also included a band playing gipsy music, some of it very good. The next day was very much work, but then fun: a combined wine tasting and dinner. The people who owned the restaurant also grew wine and bought wine from other producers and bottled and resold it, so they had a large selection. We tasted 10 wines before dinner - and the dinner was a lively affair with more wine. Yesterday I was the first to leave - just after breakfast. That trip took me 15 hours, most of them on my way. I realised when I stood at the traind station with the ticket I had been given by the organizer of the meeting that there were no trains going to Budapest at the time my train should be leaving. The tickets to not give any real travel information although there was handwritten Budapest - Kelesthy and I had been told that it also said round trip. There were many words on the ticket but none of them gave me any meaning. Nor did the various time tables listed at the station. One of the ticket sellers spoke some German, and she told me where I would have to change trains, and I found a time table listing this train and at the correct time. But I have never felt as lost as here. In Hévís most people seemed to speak at least German because of all the German speaking visitors to the spas, but Kelesthy is a small rural town without that many tourists, I believe. Hungarian is so c ompletely other that there is no help in anything. Even the way orthography represents phonetics makes it difficult at first to recognize loan words The train ride was all together four hours - a slower train than the InterCity train we had taken the other way, and to add to my lostness this train went to another one of the four main stations in Budapest than the one we had startet from. I had been at the one we came to now in 1998 - I lost my mobile phone there and we ended up in the wrong kind of taxi, those which charged about ten times as much as the standard city taxis even if both used meters. So it was not with mixed feelings I recognized the station - it was with pure desperation. But luck struck: there was a minibus there - they function in a way similar to the sherut in Israel. They pick up passengers at different places and drive to the airport. I checked in at the airport and whent through outgoing passport control. This is a much stricter affair than elsewhere in Europe, at least Western Europe, and there are overtones of the old communist days. When I finally had come through security and had bought some licuor to take home for Christmas with most of what I had left of forints, I realised that a) none of the cafes or restaurants would accept credit cards, b) there were no ATMs after I had passed passport control and security, and c) even if some of the places accepted foreign money none accepted Norwegian kroner. I hadn't eaten since breakfast, but I found I had enough forints to buy one pint of beer, which I did. The plan left late, and when we were approaching Frankfurt we were place in a holding pattern because the storms had made them close one of the runways (I believe). Tthere are possibilities for crossing large distances between gates in Frankfurt, and since we came from a non-Schengen country we would obiviously dock into a gate in another area than where the plane to Oslo would leave - Norway is a Schengen-country even if we are non-EU. We landed at almost exactly the same time which had been given for latest boarding to Oslo. Alreadyquite a few of the other passengers had been told that they had had to be rebooked - mainly to the next day. But Oslo still seemed a possibility. I ran and ran and ran - and made it. One positive thing though: I like the food served on Lufthansa flights, and they serve wine from ordinary bottles, and good wine at that. Lucky back home with Ingjerd and our rabbit at 1 AM. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 14:33:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEKXt7w030497 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:33:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D317@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:13:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 895814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:13:01 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFDD1m32107 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:13:01 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:15:29 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-111-113.nb.no [128.39.111.113]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2RZ91; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:15:25 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215141206.046b4c80@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:12:53 +0100 Subject: Natalie: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How are you? Is the pain lessened or gone? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 14:46:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEKkf7w030709 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:46:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7D362@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:25:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 896248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:25:46 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFDPkm00936 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:25:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215132541.MEMV6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:25:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDB655.9010306@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:25:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215141206.046b4c80@localhost> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215141206.046b4c80@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > How are you? Is the pain lessened or gone? I am alive and optimistic, waiting for the Walmart pharmacy to open. I'm about to call to ask what time it opens. I haven't bothered to call yet since I know it's later than this that it opens (the pharmacy -- the store itself is always open). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 14:50:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEKoG7w030761 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:50:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:29:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 896428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:29:23 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFDTMm01309 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:29:22 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:31:50 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-111-113.nb.no [128.39.111.113]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2R5AY; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:31:43 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215142823.02893be8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:29:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Natalie: In-Reply-To: <3FDDB655.9010306@maynor.net> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215141206.046b4c80@localhost> <3FDDB655.9010306@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 07:25 15.12.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Espen Ore wrote: >>How are you? Is the pain lessened or gone? > >I am alive and optimistic, waiting for the Walmart pharmacy to open. >I'm about to call to ask what time it opens. I haven't bothered to call >yet since I know it's later than this that it opens (the pharmacy -- the >store itself is always open). My warmest wishes! My sprint at the Frankfurt airport yesterday had me coughing half the way to Oslo afterwards. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 14:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEKu67w030809 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:56:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D372@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:35:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 896701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:35:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFDZCm01934 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:35:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021ABCB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:35:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312151335.hBFDZCm01934@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:35:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: WHTMIH To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:09:55 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: > >Lucky back home with Ingjerd and our rabbit at 1 AM. > >Espen Wow, quite an adventure! Glad you made it back without further delays. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 14:57:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEKvl7w030825 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:57:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7D39A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:36:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 896851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:36:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFDarm02375 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:36:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021ABE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:36:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200312151336.hBFDarm02375@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:36:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Natalie: To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >07:25 15.12.2003 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >>Espen Ore wrote: >>>How are you? Is the pain lessened or gone? >> >>I am alive and optimistic, waiting for the Walmart pharmacy to open. >>I'm about to call to ask what time it opens. I haven't bothered to call >>yet since I know it's later than this that it opens (the pharmacy -- the >>store itself is always open). > You made it through the night! I'm so relieved. And what mixture of home remedies did you choose? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 15:10:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBELAp7w031005 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:10:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7D3DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:49:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 897521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:49:57 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFDnvm04161 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:49:57 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 05:49:48 PST Message-ID: <20031215134948.89967.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 05:49:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031215121802.9057.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay writes: > > > I'm surprised. > > Surprised that there are no comments, or surprised > at who won? It was too > early to make comments last night since I think it > would be hard to make any > kind of comment re the final scenes without giving > away things to west > coasters. As for who won, I am not surprised. I > had decided she was likely > to win. I'm not totally sorry about it. Of the > final three, I was for her. > But did the others ever find out about her childish > behavior of throwing > away the fish and her plan of hiding things if she > thought she was getting > kicked off? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, but how are you feeling? It seems to me silly that you go to the ER with an emergency, and emerge with the same emergency situation. The doctors should had least have known what day it was. Did you have a hellacious night? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 15:15:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBELFV7w031060 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:15:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021AC61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 8:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 897795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:54:37 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFDsWm04653 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:54:32 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 05:54:26 PST Message-ID: <20031215135426.88221.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 05:54:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: WHTMIH To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215133441.027dfeb8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > One positive thing though: I like the food served on > Lufthansa flights, and they serve wine from ordinary > bottles, and good wine at that. > > Lucky back home with Ingjerd and our rabbit at 1 AM. > Ingjerd and rabbit (name?) are surely glad to have you home. What was the meal on the plane? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 15:38:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBELcD7w031330 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:38:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D493@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:17:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 899284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:17:19 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFEHJm08309 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:17:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215141713.MZUE6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:17:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDC26A.8090603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:17:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215141206.046b4c80@localhost> <3FDDB655.9010306@maynor.net> <6.0.0.22.0.20031215142823.02893be8@localhost> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031215142823.02893be8@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > My warmest wishes! My sprint at the Frankfurt airport yesterday had me coughing half the way to Oslo afterwards. In 45 more minutes I can get the prescriptions filled. I didn't even have to talk to a human being to find out the Wmart pharmacy's hours. All I had to do was hit 3 to get them. The magic time is 9:00. Meanwhile, the bricklayer was just here, and we've struck a deal which I think is good, though my ears are too clogged for me to think very well. I don't think I mentioned the bricklayer before. Somebody across the street sent him when I admired his brick front steps and said I'd like something like that. He came by here Thursday or Friday and assessed the situation. Called me that night with a price. I seemed surprised, so he said he'd talk to his partner and maybe we could work something out. He called early this morning to find out my schedule today. Then he came by a little while ago and dropped the price. I said yes, he called Columbus Brick, I made out a check to Columbus Brick for the correct amount, gave his truck-driver $20 for gas, and they set out for Columbus to get the bricks. When I get back from Wmart and p.o., I hope to find them laying bricks. I like this man. Don't even know his name yet but will find it out when I write him the check for the labor. Will keep his name handy in case I have future brick needs. (These aren't whole bricks -- they're those little flat pieces of brick that are used to cover things like my ugly concrete steps.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 15:42:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBELgm7w031402 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:42:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021AD01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:21:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 899403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:21:45 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFELjm08807 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:21:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215142140.NBZQ6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:21:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDC374.8000104@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:21:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Natalie: References: <200312151336.hBFDarm02375@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312151336.hBFDarm02375@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > You made it through the night! I'm so relieved. > And what mixture of home remedies did you choose? Indeed I made it through the night, though I think I was awake most of the night. The aspirin -- actually Tylenol -- seemed to help the pain, and I took more Robitussin(sp?) for snot. But I coughed all night. And (COVER YOUR EYES, BETTY -- THIS IS TMI) I had globs of eye-snot this morning. My ears right now aren't extremely painful (took more Tylenol this morning) but feel that at any minute they're going to explode -- that they're full to the breaking point with whatever. I also can't figure out why I keep sweating. (It isn't about fever. I don't have fever. I don't own a thermometer, but my eyes tell me if I have fever.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 15:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBELlA7w031482 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:47:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021AD19@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:26:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 899818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:26:16 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFEQFm09921 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:26:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215142610.NEEU6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:26:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDC480.708@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:26:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <20031215134948.89967.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031215134948.89967.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > It seems to me silly > that you go to the ER with an emergency, and emerge > with the same emergency situation. My thoughts exactly, although at least it meant that I was relieved of an extra step this morning of trying to get an appointment with my doctor. I have no idea how that would have gone. > The doctors should > had least have known what day it was. Did you have a > hellacious night? The night was not hellacious because I knew I had hope for morning and Wmart. I agree that the doctor was annoyingly ho-hum about pharmacy hours. When I asked him if there would be a place to get the prescription filled that late, he said he thought some of the pharmacies stayed open late. I don't know whether he didn't know what day it was or didn't know what town he was in. I don't understand the ER doctor situation except that I think they don't live in Starkville. They float through (one at a time -- never more than one there, but that's one more than this ER used to have). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 15:59:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBELx67w031659 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:59:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D519@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:38:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 900572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:38:11 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFEc3m12035 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:38:11 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBFEc1kF027306 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:38:01 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBFEc1Qw027304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:38:01 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:38:01 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The name Message-ID: <20031215143801.GA27272@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031213092012.GA12232@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20031213220017.86281.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031213220017.86281.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I didn't realize Carmen was a family name. That makes = it all entirely appropriate and I still love it. I = wonder how they left Wilhemina out? = Wouldn't you, given the chance? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 16:15:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEMFa7w031938 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 16:15:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D56C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 9:54:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 901593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:54:41 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFEsfm14884 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:54:41 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:54:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:54:31 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Saddam! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBEMFa7w031938 I'm glad they caught him. I'm glad they were able the specific mission without a shot being fired. It will be interesting to see what they do with him and what the longer term reaction will be. When I was at the grocery store yesterday morning, I heard a couple of the employees discussing the news as they were stocking the shelves. They were talking about how exciting it was that Bin Laden had been caught. They could just be stupid of course, but the one telling the news must have just heard it - so it causes me to wonder about how Saddam Hussein has become so equated with Bin Laden - as the supreme terrorist - that the distinction has been lost to many people. It would be interesting to do a survey and see how many people think that the architect of 9/11 has now been put out of commission. BrP >>> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM 12/14/03 07:41AM >>> Turn on your electric teevees. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 17:01:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBEN1J7w032625 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:01:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D6F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:40:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 905248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:40:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFFeKk23172 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:40:24 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:40:15 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7796B@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:40:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:18 AM > Karen Kay writes: > > > I'm surprised. > > Surprised that there are no comments, or surprised at who > won? It was too > early to make comments last night since I think it would be > hard to make any > kind of comment re the final scenes without giving away things to west > coasters. As for who won, I am not surprised. I had decided > she was likely > to win. I'm not totally sorry about it. Of the final three, > I was for her. > But did the others ever find out about her childish behavior > of throwing > away the fish and her plan of hiding things if she thought > she was getting > kicked off? If they knew about her activities, then either they didn't discuss them or it was edited out of what was shown to us. I would have a hard time believing they would 1) discuss it so little it would be easy to remove it from the show without making the episode appear "choppy"; 2) keep her around any longer than necessary.[1] As far as how it turned out, remember what Jeff Probst pointed out near the end? "Of the seven people who have won the final immunity challenge and picked their final opponent, five have picked incorrectly." I disliked statistics in college enough that I recally didn't care if I retained any of it so I don't know if there's a significant set of data there. But, there's got to be a problem with how people size up their opponents. Lil had the same problem in selecting Sandra which Colby had in selecting Tina: they're quiet, unknown factors who slip in under the radar (although Tina even quieter than Sandra). I think Jonny Fairplay just plain scared Lil ("what if he is seen as a paragon of the game's motto?") It would be interesting to see Jon in the AllStar version along with others who know his strategy. [1] I've seen a puzzle which goes something along the lines of Survivor but Survivor is a bit more fluid. If three duelers are standing on a triangle and their shooting abilities are 25%, 60%, and 90%. Each dueler fires one bullet at one of the others simultaneously until one of them is hit and dies. (and they are capable of changing targets on subsequent shots) What should the strategies be? IIRC, the strategy for the 90% shooter should be to go after the 25% shooter; i.e., eliminate the easiest target as soon as possible. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 17:15:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBENFS7w000521 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:15:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7D7DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:54:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 907045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:54:33 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFFsWk26123 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:54:32 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFFsTGp040110; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:54:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215104108.00b41bd8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:42:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Saddam! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:54 AM 12/15/2003 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >When I was at the grocery store yesterday morning, I heard a couple of the >employees discussing the news as they were stocking the shelves. They >were talking about how exciting it was that Bin Laden had been caught. >They could just be stupid of course, but the one telling the news must >have just heard it - so it causes me to wonder about how Saddam Hussein >has become so equated with Bin Laden - as the supreme terrorist - that the >distinction has been lost to many people. It would be interesting to do a >survey and see how many people think that the architect of 9/11 has now >been put out of commission. As Goebbels put it---if you tell a big enough lie and repeat it often enough, perople will start to believe it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 17:41:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBENfW7w000909 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:41:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021B10C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 908965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:20:34 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGKYk30790 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:20:34 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPY005CK2Q0AJ@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:16:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:16:12 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <373cce36f705.36f705373cce@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But did the others ever find out about her childish behavior of > throwingaway the fish and her plan of hiding things if she thought > she was getting > kicked off? It was discussed in the post-show reunion. Krista says they're "still buds". I liked that Krista, BTW. She was probably most likely to be my bud. Actually, I definitely would've fallen in with the Krista-Rupert-Sandra group. I'm glad Sandra won (especially given the final three). It's amazing that she never ever had a vote against her through the whole thing. Like she said, "Everyone always had bigger fish to fry." Didn't Lill look even worse at the end than she did on the island? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 17:51:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBENpg7w001164 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:51:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D8DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 909482 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:30:47 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGUhk32393 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:30:47 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:30:34 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7796E@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:30:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:16 AM > the whole thing. Like she said, "Everyone always had bigger > fish to fry." Were those fish the ones Rupert caught? (Sorry, I couldn't resist) > Didn't Lill look even worse at the end than she did on the island? Yes, which is very unusual. As soon as the jury is in effect, the first member usually comes back bright-eyed and bushy-tailed (and each member subsequently). A good shower, lots of water to drink, and they're ready to go. I think consuming water is the biggest difference. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 17:53:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBENrj7w001200 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:53:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021B15C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:32:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 909677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:32:50 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGWnk00552 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:32:49 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:32:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77970@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:32:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:40 PM > tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to survive. > Sickness sux big > time. aspirin can increase tinnitis (as a side-effect) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF00C7w001376 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:00:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021B193@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:39:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 910401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:39:17 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGdHk02503 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:39:17 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPY003343LG3K@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:34:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:34:56 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <38ea2338dd7f.38dd7f38ea23@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor > when having colds but didn't know they were supposed to be hot. I do > have some herbal tea in my cabinet but was thinking more in terms of > something like bourbon and water. I have it stuck in my head that > bourbon cures ills. Or maybe I'm thinking of brandy. Can't remember > now whether I have any brandy in my liquor cabinet. Buckley's Cough Syrup. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:11:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0BP7w001541 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021B16B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:40:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 909453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:40:29 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFGUSk32369 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:30:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 33312 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Dec 2003 16:30:27 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:30:26 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam! Message-ID: <20031215163026.GA31910@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215104108.00b41bd8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215104108.00b41bd8@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:42:21AM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > As Goebbels put it---if you tell a big enough lie and repeat it often > enough, perople will start to believe it. Ayeh. Ain't it the truth. Indeedy, natch? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:15:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0FE7w001632 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:15:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:44:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 910917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:44:16 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGiGk03421 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:44:16 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFGiE57043628 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:44:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:44:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <373cce36f705.36f705373cce@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Didn't Lill look even worse at the end than she did on the island? >Marie Certainly not much better. That pout on her face after the question and answer period at the final tribal council was most unattractive. The leak of who was to win, many months ago, that stopped one outfit from taking any further bets, did indeed name Sandra. Now I see why. It was pretty clear after tribal council that the vote was going to go for Sandra and not for the boy scout leader. It seems that Jon leaked in the reunion show that he will be in the all-star show. It was fun to see Jon's very-much-alive Grandma. Funny that Jeff called to see if they could assist in any way after her "death" and she answered the phone. That also means that at the tribal council after the grandma incident Jeff did indeed know that it was all a lie and played along. I wish Jeff would have asked the contestants if they didn't know about the lie until they saw it on TV. I was surprised that Krista thought it was a good ploy and wished she would have thought of it herself. I still think it was pretty damn low. I still maintain that someone on that staff was mightily pissed about the black guy asking to be voted off. I was somewhat surprised that they made a point of it again when his torch was not allowed to join the others before they lit the pirate ship ablaze. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:15:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0FE7w001631 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:15:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D99C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:46:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 911597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:46:41 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGkek04248 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:46:40 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HPY0051W3XKNC@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:42:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:42:20 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <38503f389fb2.389fb238503f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev > It seems that Jon leaked in the reunion show that he will be in the > all-star show. It was fun to see Jon's very-much-alive Grandma. I guess maybe he did although I didn't hear it like that. He said, "Maybe in an all-star show my grandpa will die." ? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:15:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0Fj7w001642 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:15:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7D9CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGsnk05100 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFGsmGn051757 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:54:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215115343.00ba9648@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:55:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <38503f389fb2.389fb238503f@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I guess maybe he did although I didn't hear it like that. He said, "Maybe >in an all-star show my grandpa will die." ? >Marie I couldn't tell if he said "an" or "the". I wonder why Jeff didn't tell us at the end that it would be an all-star show debuting in February and where it would be held. Usually, they announce the location and do a little visual promo of that area of the world. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:17:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0H27w001666 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:17:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D9B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:56:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:56:07 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGu6k05284 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:56:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215165601.VLPO1282.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:56:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDE7A1.4080506@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:56:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > so it causes me to wonder about how Saddam Hussein has become so equated with Bin Laden - as the supreme terrorist - that the distinction has been lost to many people. I trust that's a joke -- that you aren't really wondering. And this reminds me that I watched Fox News in the ER waiting room yesterday (the outer waiting room before I was moved to an inner room where I waited more hours) and was fascinated by something somebody was saying. I was too earachy and generally screwed up to remember who was saying it, but it was something about wondering what the anti-war people thought now that it's clear Bush did the right thing. Say, wha? What was that supposed to mean? That the war was ok because Saddam was caught?? I'm glad he was caught, for many reasons, but I don't see it as in any way making this ridiculous war ok. I will forever, btw, associate throbbing ears with Saddam's hairy face on a screen with somebody poking around in his mouth. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:20:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0Kf7w001705 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:20:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021B26B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:59:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:59:46 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFGxkk05677 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:59:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215165938.VNXB1282.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDE87A.3090701@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 10:59:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7796B@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7796B@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>But did the others ever find out about her childish behavior >>of throwing >>away the fish and her plan of hiding things if she thought >>she was getting >>kicked off? > > If they knew about her activities, then either they didn't discuss them or > it was edited out of what was shown to us. I meant after the fact. I think it's clear that nobody knew she was the fish-tosser while they were still there. And the other, even more spiteful, thing was something that she never had occasion to do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:22:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0MN7w001759 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:22:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7D9D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:26 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFH13k05999 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215170057.VOTB1282.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:00:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDE8C9.4050806@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:00:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <373cce36f705.36f705373cce@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <373cce36f705.36f705373cce@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Didn't Lill look even worse at the end than she did on the island? And wasn't she absurd in her little speeches there toward the end. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:22:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0MQ7w001763 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:22:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021B28D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:30 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFH1Uk06046 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215170125.VPAR1282.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDE8E5.4010709@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:01:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77970@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77970@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > aspirin can increase tinnitis (as a side-effect) What's tinnitis? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:25:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0PQ7w001815 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:25:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7D9F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:04:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:04:30 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFH4Uk06529 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:04:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 30329 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2003 17:04:28 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-9.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2003 17:04:28 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90538F48 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071507868!427083 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:04:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <3FDDE8E5.4010709@maynor.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:01 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? > > >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> aspirin can increase tinnitis (as a side-effect) > >What's tinnitis? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Ringing ears, you said you were taking tylenol. Don't worry about it. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:26:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0Qf7w001846 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:26:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DA06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:05:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:05:46 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFH5kk06724 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:05:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215170540.VRTD1282.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:05:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDE9E4.4030702@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:05:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > The leak > of who was to win, many months ago, that stopped one outfit from taking any > further bets, did indeed name Sandra. Now I see why. It was pretty clear > after tribal council that the vote was going to go for Sandra and not for > the boy scout leader. I had wondered about the timing. Was last night's vote-count live? Iow, did nobody know for absolute sure who the winner was until we all knew? I agree, though, that it was pretty clear who it would be, given Lil's little rants. But why would where Sandra's from be a clue (re the betting)? Do you think she was the leaker? If so, is she going to have to pay $5million to CBS? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:31:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0VV7w001960 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:31:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DA0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:10:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 912891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:09:50 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFH9ok07455 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:09:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215170945.VUGF1282.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:09:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>What's tinnitis? > > Ringing ears, you said you were taking tylenol. Don't worry about it. Thanks. I now have the real pain medicine, but I am holding off on taking it unless the pain is unbearable. Took another tylenol instead. I don't like that the pain medicine had a red sticker on its bottle saying that it might cause dizziness. I don't want to be dizzy. I'm mainly hoping that the other two medicines are going to work fast, although I'm not optimistic since the one that's supposed to kill the bacteria says that you might feel better after five days but that even after that the medicine will keep working for a few more days. (It's a five-day plan.) I want the clogged ears to GET UNCLOGGED RIGHT NOW. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:43:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0hV7w002144 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:43:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DA81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 913708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFHMEk09326 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFHMDrm029430 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:22:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:22:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1586923205.20031215112241@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> References: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > although I'm not optimistic since the one that's supposed to kill the > bacteria says that you might feel better after five days but that even > after that the medicine will keep working for a few more days. (It's a > five-day plan.) I want the clogged ears to GET UNCLOGGED RIGHT NOW. Is this Zithromax? I have had it work very quickly--when it works. Did you get some eardrops, as well? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:43:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0hZ7w002147 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:43:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DA7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 913721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:39 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFHMck09348 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:38 -0500 Received: (qmail 28098 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2003 17:22:36 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-18.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2003 17:22:36 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02B91649 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:36 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-18.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071508956!423890 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.13; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:22:37 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c3c330$08f31220$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:10 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? > > >Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >>>What's tinnitis? >> >> Ringing ears, you said you were taking tylenol. Don't worry about it. > >Thanks. I now have the real pain medicine, but I am holding off on >taking it unless the pain is unbearable. Took another tylenol instead. > I don't like that the pain medicine had a red sticker on its bottle >saying that it might cause dizziness. I don't want to be dizzy. I'm >mainly hoping that the other two medicines are going to work fast, >although I'm not optimistic since the one that's supposed to kill the >bacteria says that you might feel better after five days but that even >after that the medicine will keep working for a few more days. (It's a >five-day plan.) I want the clogged ears to GET UNCLOGGED RIGHT NOW. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Zithromax? It work rather well. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 18:44:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF0ig7w002190 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 18:44:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DA8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:23:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 913791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:23:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFHNkk09468 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:23:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFHNj6X027595 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:23:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:24:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1235748829.20031215112413@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I still maintain that someone on that staff was mightily pissed about the > black guy asking to be voted off. I was somewhat surprised that they made > a point of it again when his torch was not allowed to join the others > before they lit the pirate ship ablaze. They had to do this whether they were truly angry or not in order to discourage future participants from crapping out in the middle of the game. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 19:59:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF1xW7w003607 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:59:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DCC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:38:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 919266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:38:35 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIcZk21209 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:38:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFIcX57067607 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:38:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215133527.00bbf518@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:38:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <3FDDE9E4.4030702@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I had wondered about the timing. Was last night's vote-count live? Yes, the vote count was live, although Jeff and a few others may have taken a peak weeks ago when the show wrapped. >But why would where Sandra's from be a clue (re the >betting)? Do you think she was the leaker? If so, is she going to have >to pay $5million to CBS? -- Natalie The outfit that was taking bets discovered there was a preponderance of bets placed for Sandra. They investigated further and discovered that most of those bets were coming from the same geographical area. They matched that area to Sandra's home or near her home. I sure hope it wasn't Sandra who leaked it. I wonder if she had simply said "I did quite well." if that would have been considered enough of a leak to invoke the penalty. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:00:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF20c7w003657 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:00:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DCC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:39:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 919317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:39:42 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIdgk21315 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:39:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFIde57067926 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:39:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215133941.00bcae40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:39:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <1235748829.20031215112413@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I still maintain that someone on that staff was mightily pissed about the > > black guy asking to be voted off. I was somewhat surprised that they made > > a point of it again when his torch was not allowed to join the others > > before they lit the pirate ship ablaze. > >They had to do this whether they were truly angry or not in order to >discourage future participants from crapping out in the middle of the >game. --Karen I agree. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:08:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF28X7w003802 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:08:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DCFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:47:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 919811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:47:37 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIlak22310 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:47:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215184731.SAXM6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:47:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE01C3.9090903@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:47:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <000901c3c330$08f31220$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000901c3c330$08f31220$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Zithromax? It work rather well. I think that's its name. It starts with a Z. Will go look. ... Yes. Zithromax. Two pills today and then one pill a day for the next four days. And while I'm reporting, the congestion medicine is Guiafenex, generic for Panimsit, and the pain medicine that I have not yet used is Hydroco/Apap. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:10:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2AH7w003835 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:10:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DD05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 919910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:21 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFInLk22508 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215184916.SBRM6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE022B.2040708@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:49:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> <1586923205.20031215112241@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1586923205.20031215112241@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Is this Zithromax? I have had it work very quickly--when it works. When it works? Does it sometimes not work? > Did you get some eardrops, as well? No. What I wish I had right now is eye drops. My right eye is getting oozier and oozier and scratchier and scratchier. My whole body is falling apart. Surely the eye is related to the rest of the crud, though, and will be helped by these medicines. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:11:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2BM7w003855 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:11:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DD31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:50:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:50:26 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIoQk22791 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:50:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215185017.SCCI6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:50:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE0269.5030205@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:50:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <1235748829.20031215112413@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1235748829.20031215112413@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 15, 2003, bonniev wrote: > >>I still maintain that someone on that staff was mightily pissed about the >>black guy asking to be voted off. I was somewhat surprised that they made >>a point of it again when his torch was not allowed to join the others >>before they lit the pirate ship ablaze. > > They had to do this whether they were truly angry or not in order to > discourage future participants from crapping out in the middle of the > game. But crapping out is an interesting option to have. I don't think it does any harm to the show. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:13:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2Db7w003892 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:13:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DD2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:52:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:52:41 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIqfk23238 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:52:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215185236.SDAY6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE02F3.9020604@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:52:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215133527.00bbf518@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215133527.00bbf518@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> But why would where Sandra's from be a clue (re the >> betting)? Do you think she was the leaker? If so, is she going to have >> to pay $5million to CBS? -- Natalie > > The outfit that was taking bets discovered there was a preponderance of > bets placed for Sandra. They investigated further and discovered that most > of those bets were coming from the same geographical area. They matched > that area to Sandra's home or near her home. I sure hope it wasn't Sandra > who leaked it. I wonder if she had simply said "I did quite well." if that > would have been considered enough of a leak to invoke the penalty. The geographical thing certainly points toward her as the leaker. But if the actual winning didn't occur until last night, then it couldn't have been a real leak of the winner. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:15:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2FJ7w003941 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:15:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021B5FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:54:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:54:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIsMk23489 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFIsL6X021813 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:54:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:54:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1303413856.20031215125450@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDE022B.2040708@maynor.net> References: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> <1586923205.20031215112241@WordWrite.com> <3FDE022B.2040708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > When it works? Does it sometimes not work? Yes, of course. Not every bacterium responds to every antibiotic. Frankly, although I know you're sick and want it over, I'm kind of shocked that he gave out antibiotics so easily. > Surely the eye is related to the rest of the crud, > though, and will be helped by these medicines. Keep on believing that! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:16:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2G17w003950 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:16:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DD46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIt4k23578 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFIt3rm026141 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:55:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:55:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <61418585.20031215125531@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <3FDE0269.5030205@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <1235748829.20031215112413@WordWrite.com> <3FDE0269.5030205@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > But crapping out is an interesting option to have. I don't think it > does any harm to the show. What if most of the contestants crapped out? Would that do harm to the show? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:18:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2IY7w003997 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:18:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DD6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:57:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:57:37 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIvbk23841 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:57:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215185732.SFCO6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE0416.7020906@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:57:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> <1586923205.20031215112241@WordWrite.com> <3FDE022B.2040708@maynor.net> <1303413856.20031215125450@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1303413856.20031215125450@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Frankly, although I know you're sick and want it over, I'm kind of > shocked that he gave out antibiotics so easily. Why is it shocking? Is there something frightening about antibiotics? I don't know much at all about medicines, but aren't they what one takes to fight off infections? I'm pretty sure that's what Spencer's ear medicine was. But the vet actually did a culture(?) of Spencer's ear crud. The ER doctor just took a casual glance into one of my ears. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2Je7w004006 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DD75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 920694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:58:44 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFIwik24143 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:58:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215185839.SFNU6126.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:58:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE045E.3080900@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:58:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215113801.00bb47d0@pop.gwi.net> <1235748829.20031215112413@WordWrite.com> <3FDE0269.5030205@maynor.net> <61418585.20031215125531@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <61418585.20031215125531@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>But crapping out is an interesting option to have. I don't think it >>does any harm to the show. > > What if most of the contestants crapped out? Would that do harm to the > show? But would they? That seems highly unlikely to me. And it might make for a more interesting show among the non-quitters, though they'd have to spread things out a bit. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:28:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2Su7w004088 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:28:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DDBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 921456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJ80k25986 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:00 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77978@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:07:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:39 PM > >I had wondered about the timing. Was last night's vote-count live? > > Yes, the vote count was live, although Jeff and a few others > may have taken > a peak weeks ago when the show wrapped. I would think they peeked before then. There was one series where there was a helicopter sitting off-set and Jeff hopped on, only to be seen hopping off of a chopper at the live set. I don't think they would take any chances on that pot getting dropped, burned in a crash, etc. I think when everyone is shepherded away from the tribal council area, the votes are counted and well taken care of - even to the point of copying the handwriting lest a second set be needed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:29:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2TN7w004102 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DDC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 921490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:27 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFJ8Qk26036 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:26 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:08:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:07:57 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Saddam coverage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBF2TN7w004102 I wonder exactly how many newspapers had the headline "we got him" this morning. It is a skill to be able to deliver the perfect headlineable or sound-biteable quote. It was driving me crazy yesterday that several of the common taters were saying that Saddam "looks like a homeless person" I understand and appreciate the irony of the contrast between the once so lavish lifestyle and the rat in the hole. What I don't appreciate is perpetuating the stereotype that homeless=dirty. I have known quite a few homeless people over the years and they were perhaps even more careful about grooming than most people - at least partyly because they wanted not to be pegged by such sterotyping. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:40:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2e27w004255 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:40:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DE26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:19:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 922385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:19:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJJ5k28176 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:19:05 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:19:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77979@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:18:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:48 PM > Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > > Zithromax? It work rather well. > > I think that's its name. It starts with a Z. Will go look. > ... > Yes. Zithromax. Two pills today and then one pill a day for the next > four days. And while I'm reporting, the congestion medicine is > Guiafenex, generic for Panimsit, and the pain medicine that I have not > yet used is Hydroco/Apap. A year ago, I was profoundly deaf in my right ear from an infection which popped up front nothing. They asked if I used q-tips (I don't - I've got stuff front my NE&T doc which smells like vinear and is not in the formulary so someone has to mix it, and I can only use my index finger to apply it), then flushed my ear out and gave me a Z-pak on my way out. Because my pain receptors are so far out of whack, they didn't want to give me anything for the pain, despite the fact anything which increases any "regular|normal" pain exacerbates my permanent pain. (e.g., I stepped onto the edge of a cast iron doorstop the other night holding the office door open and it wasn't flush, so I my food caught the edge of it and the top caught my the middle of my tibia (the bone which finds coffee tables in the dark) where I'd damaged the bone lining about eighteen years ago. Holly wanted to x-ray it (and still does). There's no bruising so I'm not worried. I also remember how difficult it was to explain other interesting little calcium deposits up & down my tibia and ankle from previous injuries in college. The resident who saw the x-rays back then was freaked & got the attending who wasn't freaked but rather curious & had never seen them before. Now, FIFA requires practically anyone playing a sanctioned game (even the 4-year-olds) to wear shin guards because one could be nicked by a cleat and have blood contamination. I tried cleats once in college during a scrimmage. I think they lasted about two minutes before I tossed them in the general direction of our equipment - I don't even remember if I picked them up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2h37w004284 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:43:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DE49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:22:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 922697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:22:07 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFJM7k28823 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:22:07 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:22:06 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:21:48 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Saddam coverage II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBF2h37w004284 They kept saying Saddam had been taken to an "undisclosed location" All I could think was that he was going to meet with Cheney. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:44:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2iM7w004314 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:44:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021B70B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 922806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:26 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJNQk29039 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:26 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797A@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:49 PM > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Is this Zithromax? I have had it work very quickly--when it works. > > When it works? Does it sometimes not work? > > > Did you get some eardrops, as well? > > No. What I wish I had right now is eye drops. My right eye > is getting > oozier and oozier and scratchier and scratchier. My whole body is > falling apart. Surely the eye is related to the rest of the crud, > though, and will be helped by these medicines. Time to play, "Bug the Doctor". Ask the doc you just saw. If he|she won't help, it's time for "I'd like a Second Opinion, please" (You don't have to tell them that unless you want to). Heck, you could go to one of the MedExpress places - most of them are better than nothing. If you have the ability to see a Nose, Ear, & Throat doc without a referral, then do it. They can usually tell you what's wrong with your eye, even if they can't|don't treat it (e.g., "just apply some Visine or contact solution") You're the one not feeling well. Unfortunately, the ball is in your court to find the right doc which will help you get well. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:44:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2ih7w004320 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:44:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 922845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJNkk29082 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:23:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFJMkKX018826 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:22:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:24:10 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1525137797.20031215132410@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77979@EXCHSRVR1> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77979@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Phil Paxton wrote: > There's no bruising so I'm not worried. I thought bone bruises took a while to show up, that bruising works itself from the inside out. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:46:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2kC7w004370 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:46:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 922934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:25:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJPGk29324 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:25:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFJPFrm023153 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:25:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:25:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <859460029.20031215132543@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I have known quite > a few homeless people over the years and they were perhaps even more > careful about grooming than most people - at least partyly because > they wanted not to be pegged by such sterotyping. How did they get clean? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:53:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2rh7w004457 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:53:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DE8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:32:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 923511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:32:46 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJWkk30606 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:32:46 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:32:40 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:32:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > -----Original Message----- > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:50 PM > But crapping out is an interesting option to have. I don't think it > does any harm to the show. It's interesting to see the new things injected. "Only the clothes on your back"[1] (+ local money + Rupert cleaning out the other raft); the Outcasts (or OutKasts?), where Burton & Lill were resurrected from the dead and had a lot to do with the game up to the end; an incredible lie by one of the biggest weasels to play the game by the literal stated rules (who also made it to the final three); a team playing lame so they could get a turn to boot a teammate; a quitter; and Darrah was killed because she'd won three immunity challenges in a row [2] and all of the final immunity challenges (to date) have been stamina challenges - something where a lithe body such as hers could easily outlast any of the other fifteen contestants, not just the other two remaining. [1] IIRC, it was said, "the contestants for the All-Star #1 Survivor were all wearing three sets of clothing so as not to get burned ala Pearl Islands." [2] Being able to squeeze her hand down into the tube to get the key turned out to be quite fortunate for her. Had she not been able to do so, the game's outcome would have changed considerably. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 20:55:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF2tb7w004484 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:55:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DEB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:34:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 923712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:34:40 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFJYek31073 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:34:40 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:34:40 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:34:28 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBF2tb7w004484 There are lots of public facilities. With a little creativity and ingenuity... You might be surprised. Some of the most "ordinary looking" people you see every day are, in fact, homeless. BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/15/03 02:25PM >>> On Monday, December 15, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I have known quite > a few homeless people over the years and they were perhaps even more > careful about grooming than most people - at least partyly because > they wanted not to be pegged by such sterotyping. How did they get clean? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:04:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3467w004645 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:04:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DEE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:43:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 924302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:43:09 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJh9k32321 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:43:09 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:43:01 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797C@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:42:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Karen Kay [mailto:Karen@WORDWRITE.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:56 PM > On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > But crapping out is an interesting option to have. I don't think it > > does any harm to the show. > > What if most of the contestants crapped out? Would that do harm to the > show? Yes. Although they aren't directly affecting the outcome of the show (or at least, each three day episode), they can at least film & edit around the clock to present a microcosm they want us to see in order to have interesting trailers and keep the game interesting. If people quit left & right, the chemistry changes too often and I think they fear it would change the chemistry way too much. I realize the name of the show is "Survivor" and those quitting aren't survivors - they're just saving the show time of kicking them off. In my eyes, they're detracting from the purpose of the game. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3Aa7w004702 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DF3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 924778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:39 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJndk00849 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215194934.WMPC21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE104D.1060204@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797A@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797A@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Time to play, "Bug the Doctor". Ask the doc you just saw. If he|she won't > help, it's time for "I'd like a Second Opinion, please" (You don't have to > tell them that unless you want to). Heck, you could go to one of the > MedExpress places - most of them are better than nothing. If you have the > ability to see a Nose, Ear, & Throat doc without a referral, then do it. > They can usually tell you what's wrong with your eye, even if they > can't|don't treat it (e.g., "just apply some Visine or contact solution") I find this all fascinating. What's a MedExpress place?? Re the doctor who prescribed the medicines, that was the ER doctor working yesterday. I'm not about to go back there today, when regular doctors are in business, and I doubt very much that the same ER doctor is working there today anyway. Re going to an ENT, why not go instead to my opthalmologist since the question is about an eye? And he is right here in Starkville, as opposed to the ENT, who is in Columbus. And he knows me well since I go to him every few months to have my pressure checked and since he and my brother were in med school together and I think maybe did their residencies in ophthamology together. I'm still guessing, though, that this medicine that's supposed to be curing the ear problem will also cure the eye problem. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3DZ7w004745 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:13:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DF39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:52:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 924973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:52:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f13.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJqck01253 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:52:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:52:33 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:52:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: Saddam coverage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:52:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2003 19:52:33.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAE28ED0:01C3C344] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Louisville Courier-Journal looked like a tabloid clone, with a massive headline reading" "Caught Like A Rat" or words to that effect. >From: Paul Barfoot >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Saddam coverage >Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:07:57 -0500 > > I wonder exactly how many newspapers had the headline "we got him" this >morning. It is a skill to be able to deliver the perfect headlineable or >sound-biteable quote. > > It was driving me crazy yesterday that several of the common taters were >saying that Saddam "looks like a homeless person" I understand and >appreciate the irony of the contrast between the once so lavish lifestyle >and the rat in the hole. What I don't appreciate is perpetuating the >stereotype that homeless=dirty. I have known quite a few homeless people >over the years and they were perhaps even more careful about grooming than >most people - at least partyly because they wanted not to be pegged by such >sterotyping. > >BrP > > _________________________________________________________________ Browse styles for all ages, from the latest looks to cozy weekend wear at MSN Shopping. And check out the beauty products! http://shopping.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:16:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3Ga7w004796 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:16:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021B80E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:55:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 925100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:55:40 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJtdk01586 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:55:39 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:55:33 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797D@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:55:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:57 PM > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Frankly, although I know you're sick and want it over, I'm kind of > > shocked that he gave out antibiotics so easily. > > Why is it shocking? Is there something frightening about antibiotics? > I don't know much at all about medicines, but aren't they > what one takes > to fight off infections? I'm pretty sure that's what Spencer's ear > medicine was. But the vet actually did a culture(?) of Spencer's ear > crud. The ER doctor just took a casual glance into one of my ears. There's nothing frightening about taking them but there is cause for alarm for the volume prescribed, particularly when they aren't going to have as much of an effect. All to often, patients bug a doctor for an antibiotic and doctors cave in[1] even though they know better[2]. As a result, there are many varieties of bacteria which were easily cured even three to five years ago which are now resistent and if you happen to get the right illness in the right part of the world, it's you vs. bacteria - there's nothing the antibiotic can do for you. "Take two [aspirin] and call me in the morning" has been replaced with "take two [antibiotics] and call me in two days." Society is now clamoring for anything in products which has "antibacterial" in the title (e.g., soap and wipes) and these products are not far down the list of creating resistent strains. When cleaning, the purpose should be removing the bacteria from the suface|object, not killing it. Killing it plays right into "suvival of the fittest" and you just end up with stronger bugs. [1] "Ask your doctor about " That substance could be used for deoderant, lice, etc. But by not telling you what it's for, you're going to ask your doctor for that substance every time. [2] You'd be surprised how many times these situations come up in doctors' meetings regarding what should|shouldn't be done and what's on|off the formulary. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:17:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3HT7w004822 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:17:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7DF68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:56:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 925158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:56:33 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJuXk01736 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:56:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215195628.WQNF21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:56:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE11EB.1060109@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:56:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > a teammate; a quitter; and Darrah was killed because she'd won three Re the quitter, I'm trying to remember now how that worked. I remember that Osten wanted to quit and that he was allowed to. They didn't vote at all, did they? But if the tribe had wanted to vote, they could have, right? Iow, they could have forced Osten to stay. Remember in the previous Survivor when that chameleon wanted to quit until the boys came? Iirc, her tribe refused to vote her out when she wanted to be voted out. > immunity challenges in a row [2] and all of the final immunity challenges > (to date) have been stamina challenges - something where a lithe body such > as hers could easily outlast any of the other fifteen contestants, not just > the other two remaining. As annoying as I sometimes found Lil, I must admit that I did love it last night when she outlasted Jon. Re Darrah, I may run into her one of these days. There was a little blurb about her in the Jackson paper today, and it said that she's now living in Ridgeland and studying to become a dental hygienist. Ridgeland is a suburb of Jackson and is an area I normally spend time in when I go to Jackson. If I need to do mall-shopping, I always go to Northpark Mall, which people normally say is "in Jackson" but which technically is in Ridgeland. I might bump into Darrah looking at purses in McRae's. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:19:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3JG7w004844 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DF65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:58:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 925216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:58:19 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJwJk01888 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:58:19 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:58:14 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797E@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Saddam coverage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:58:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Paul Barfoot [mailto:Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:08 PM > I wonder exactly how many newspapers had the headline "we > got him" this morning. It is a skill to be able to deliver > the perfect headlineable or sound-biteable quote. It made for a rough morning. I knew I had to make sure I found all of my newspapers before work. Otherwise, all of the souvenir hunters would grab them just for the headlines and I'd be hunting all over for my regular reading. > It was driving me crazy yesterday that several of the common > taters were saying that Saddam "looks like a homeless person" > I understand and appreciate the irony of the contrast > between the once so lavish lifestyle and the rat in the hole. > What I don't appreciate is perpetuating the stereotype that > homeless=dirty. I have known quite a few homeless people > over the years and they were perhaps even more careful about > grooming than most people - at least partyly because they > wanted not to be pegged by such sterotyping. > > BrP > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:20:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3KG7w004873 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:20:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021B827@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:59:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 925270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFJxBk01987 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215195906.WSBZ21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:59:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE128A.6080707@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:59:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > There are lots of public facilities. With a little creativity and ingenuity... > > You might be surprised. Some of the most "ordinary looking" people you see every day are, in fact, homeless. The person who had a baby in Walmart (the movie I watched most of a few nights ago) seemed to do fine living there, at least until the baby started coming. She had sleeping bags to sleep on, alarm clocks to wake her up in plenty of time to pick up the sleeping bag, etc., exercise equipment to stay in shape, music to listen to, and a restroom where she managed to keep herself clean. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3RL7w004981 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:27:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7DF80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 925642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFK6Ek02828 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPYCUB01.WWS for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:58:59 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <15dd5215e5ee.15e5ee15dd52@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:58:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Saddam coverage X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:25 pm Subject: Re: Saddam coverage > On Monday, December 15, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > I have known quite > > a few homeless people over the years and they were perhaps even more > > careful about grooming than most people - at least partyly because > > they wanted not to be pegged by such sterotyping. > > How did they get clean? Library restrooms. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3RL7x004981 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:27:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7DF93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 925646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFK6Kk02838 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215200615.WWJN21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE1437.9090803@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:06:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797D@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797D@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > All to often, patients bug a doctor for an antibiotic and doctors cave in[1] > even though they know better[2]. As a result, there are many varieties of > bacteria which were easily cured even three to five years ago which are now > resistent and if you happen to get the right illness in the right part of > the world, it's you vs. bacteria - there's nothing the antibiotic can do for So what should this doctor yesterday have done instead? Fwiw, I said nothing at all to him about wanting an antibiotic. All I said was that my ears were driving me crazy. I can't imagine having asked him for a particular kind of medicine. That's his field, not mine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 21:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF3jl7w005233 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:45:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E034@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:24:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 927072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:24:50 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFKOok05481 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:24:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215202443.XGUY21685.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:24:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE188C.7020402@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:24:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Neat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just went outside to see what the bricklayers were doing and found that they're getting close to being through. I wish I had taken a before picture of the ugly concrete steps! Probably I can find them somewhere in old pictures. I just took these two in-progress pictures: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick1.jpg http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick2.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4TB7w005923 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:29:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E1BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:08:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 930554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:08:14 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFL8Ek12247 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:08:14 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFL8C57003027 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:08:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215160730.00bc3160@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:08:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Saddam coverage In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I wonder exactly how many newspapers had the headline "we got him" this > morning. It is a skill to be able to deliver the perfect headlineable or > sound-biteable quote. > BrP USA Today: Captured Portland Press Herald: 'We Got Him' Boston Globe: Prisoner Hussein bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:35:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4Zb7w006044 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:35:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E1EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLEdk13440 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFLEc57004596 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <3FDE11EB.1060109@maynor.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Re the quitter, I'm trying to remember now how that worked. I remember >that Osten wanted to quit and that he was allowed to. They didn't vote >at all, did they? But if the tribe had wanted to vote, they could have, >right? Iow, they could have forced Osten to stay. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It came out in the pre-vote tribal council discussion with Jeff that Osten wanted to leave. Jeff did an informal poll of the tribe to see if they all were willing to vote him out. They nodded. Jeff said there was no need for a vote and asked Osten to bring his torch. Jeff snuffed the torch and told him to "go home." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:36:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4a57w006055 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:36:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E1F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:15:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:15:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLF8k13551 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:15:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021BA98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:15:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152115.hBFLF8k13551@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:15:07 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The name To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:38:01 +0100, steph wrote: >= >= I didn't realize Carmen was a family name. That makes >= it all entirely appropriate and I still love it. I >= wonder how they left Wilhemina out? >= > >Wouldn't you, given the chance? well, I wouldn't, but my father's name is William and I wouldn't mind naming someone after him. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:39:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4dC7w006090 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:39:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E20A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:18:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:18:15 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFLIFk14067 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:18:15 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:18:07 PST Message-ID: <20031215211807.57414.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:18:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The name To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031215143801.GA27272@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > = > = I didn't realize Carmen was a family name. That > makes > = it all entirely appropriate and I still love it. > I > = wonder how they left Wilhemina out? > = > > Wouldn't you, given the chance? Yeah, you've got a point. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:41:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4fD7w006123 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:41:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E22E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:20:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:20:16 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFLKGk14530 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:20:16 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:20:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:19:55 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBF4fD7w006123 I'm glad nothing serious! BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/15/03 04:14PM >>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:26:08 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> It seems to me silly >> that you go to the ER with an emergency, and emerge >> with the same emergency situation. > > My mother was also in ER yesterday - she lost consciousness for a couple of seconds yesterday while getting into the car, and since this is a rare event for her she asked them to take a look at her. No cause determined and no indication of anything serious. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4iR7w006143 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:44:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E245@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:30 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLNUk15113 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021BAE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152123.hBFLNUk15113@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:30 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:01:25 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> aspirin can increase tinnitis (as a side-effect) > >What's tinnitis? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Tinnitus is ringing in the ears, caused by inflammation/damage to the tiny cilia in the inner ear. Aspirin can also tinnitus, as a side-effect of high doses; and so can some antibiotics, exposure to loud noises, or high-pitched whines as in those caused by electric motors at high decibels. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:45:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4jO7w006171 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:45:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021BAED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:58 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFLNwk15210 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:58 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:22:07 PST Message-ID: <20031215212207.97507.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:22:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77970@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:40 PM > > > tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to > survive. > > Sickness sux big > > time. > > aspirin can increase tinnitus (as a side-effect) According to the local ENT spec., only in very large quantities such as most humans would not ingest deliberately. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:45:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4jO7w006170 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:45:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021BA64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 931036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLEQk13369 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E1EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152114.hBFLEQk13369@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:14:26 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:26:08 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> It seems to me silly >> that you go to the ER with an emergency, and emerge >> with the same emergency situation. > > My mother was also in ER yesterday - she lost consciousness for a couple of seconds yesterday while getting into the car, and since this is a rare event for her she asked them to take a look at her. No cause determined and no indication of anything serious. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:58:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4wC7w006330 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:58:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E266@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:31:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 932383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:31:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLVuk16677 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:31:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021BB28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:31:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152131.hBFLVuk16677@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:31:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:47:31 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >> Zithromax? It work rather well. > >I think that's its name. It starts with a Z. Will go look. >... >Yes. Zithromax. Two pills today and then one pill a day for the next >four days. And while I'm reporting, the congestion medicine is >Guiafenex, generic for Panimsit, and the pain medicine that I have not >yet used is Hydroco/Apap. > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to sleep tonight, don't hesitate to take it then! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:58:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4wC7w006329 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:58:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E25B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:27:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 932104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:27:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLRDk15852 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:27:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021BB03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:27:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152127.hBFLRDk15852@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:27:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:54:50 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> When it works? Does it sometimes not work? > >Yes, of course. Not every bacterium responds to every antibiotic. > >Frankly, although I know you're sick and want it over, I'm kind of >shocked that he gave out antibiotics so easily. > >> Surely the eye is related to the rest of the crud, >> though, and will be helped by these medicines. > >Keep on believing that! > >Karen Double ear infections and an eye infection and severe ear pain for several days - and he may well have seen something in a culture or in the ears that told him it was a good call. It doesn't sound like a cavalier action to me clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:58:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4wC7w006331 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:58:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E294@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:36:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 932789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:36:23 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFLaJk17466 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:36:19 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:36:14 PST Message-ID: <20031215213614.57205.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Thanks. I now have the real pain medicine, but I am > holding off on > taking it unless the pain is unbearable. Took > another tylenol instead. > I don't like that the pain medicine had a red > sticker on its bottle > saying that it might cause dizziness. I don't want > to be dizzy. I'm > mainly hoping that the other two medicines are going > to work fast, > although I'm not optimistic since the one that's > supposed to kill the > bacteria says that you might feel better after five > days but that even > after that the medicine will keep working for a few > more days. (It's a > five-day plan.) I want the clogged ears to GET > UNCLOGGED RIGHT NOW. Manufacturers are required to list any untoward symptoms that have ever occurred during their testing programs. This does not mean you WILL be dizzy. Take the medicine, please. The doctor would have warned you about anything uncomfortable, or even lethal effects. He means for you to take the medications TOGETHER. Then you'll start feeling better - we hope. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 22:58:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF4wX7w006342 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:58:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E2A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:37:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 932937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:37:35 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFLbZk17733 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:37:35 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:37:28 PST Message-ID: <20031215213728.54162.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE01C3.9090903@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Yes. Zithromax. Two pills today and then one pill > a day for the next > four days. And while I'm reporting, the congestion > medicine is > Guiafenex, generic for Panimsit, and the pain > medicine that I have not > yet used is Hydroco/Apap. Take it! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:03:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF53O7w006418 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:03:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E2CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:42:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:42:27 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLgQk18749 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:42:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215214219.TUKW4035.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:42:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE2ABD.1040502@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:42:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <200312152114.hBFLEQk13369@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312152114.hBFLEQk13369@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > My mother was also in ER yesterday - she lost consciousness for a couple > of seconds yesterday while getting into the car, and since this is a rare > event for her she asked them to take a look at her. No cause determined > and no indication of anything serious. A rare event for her? Is it a sometimes event? It does sound scary, and I'm happy to hear that all seemed ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF54p7w006434 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E2D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:43:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:43:54 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLhrk18967 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:43:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215214346.TVER4035.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE2B14.3070104@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:43:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > It came out in the pre-vote tribal council discussion with Jeff that Osten > wanted to leave. Jeff did an informal poll of the tribe to see if they all > were willing to vote him out. They nodded. Jeff said there was no need > for a vote and asked Osten to bring his torch. Jeff snuffed the torch and > told him to "go home." So it was basically Jeff's doing. If they had gone on and voted him off, as he asked them to, would it have been quitting? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF57M7w006472 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:07:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E2E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:46:24 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLkOk19453 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:46:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215214617.TWKI4035.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:46:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE2BAA.70006@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:46:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312152127.hBFLRDk15852@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312152127.hBFLRDk15852@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Double ear infections and an eye infection and severe ear pain for > several days - and he may well have seen something in a culture or > in the ears that told him it was a good call. It doesn't sound like > a cavalier action to me No eye infection yesterday. It has gradually developed today, starting with the eye snot crusted on my eye when I woke up this morning. Now it's exuding tons of stuff and feeling very scratchy and looking red and squinchy. And no culture. He just glanced in one ear with his little ear-glancing device and then glanced in my mouth. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:07:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF57a7w006477 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:07:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E303@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:46:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 932827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:46:39 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFLadk17530 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:36:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 11527 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Dec 2003 21:36:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:36:37 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Message-ID: <20031215213637.GA8338@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:52:32PM -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: > The Louisville Courier-Journal looked like a tabloid clone, with a massive > headline reading" "Caught Like A Rat" or words to that effect. Hm, is it owned by Lord Black? Chicago's Hollinger paper had this line. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:08:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF58K7w006484 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:08:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E303@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:47:15 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLlFk19615 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:47:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215214708.TWVM4035.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:47:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE2BDD.6040001@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:47:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312152131.hBFLVuk16677@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312152131.hBFLVuk16677@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to sleep tonight, don't hesitate > to take it then! That's what I was thinking -- that it would be a good thing to take before going to bed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:10:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5AH7w006525 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:10:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E313@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:49:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:49:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLnJk19949 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:49:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215214912.TXWT4035.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:49:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE2C54.9010905@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:49:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031215213614.57205.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031215213614.57205.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > He means for you to take the medications > TOGETHER. Then you'll start feeling better - we hope. But the pain pills are for pain, and, as long as I can suppress the pain with tylenol, I see no point in taking something . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:12:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5Cs7w006553 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:12:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E30E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:51:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 933903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:51:56 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLpuk20296 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:51:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E320@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:51:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152151.hBFLpuk20296@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:51:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:49:33 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> Time to play, "Bug the Doctor". Ask the doc you just saw. If he|she won't >> help, it's time for "I'd like a Second Opinion, please" (You don't have to >> tell them that unless you want to). Heck, you could go to one of the >> MedExpress places - most of them are better than nothing. If you have the >> ability to see a Nose, Ear, & Throat doc without a referral, then do it. >> They can usually tell you what's wrong with your eye, even if they >> can't|don't treat it (e.g., "just apply some Visine or contact solution") > >I find this all fascinating. What's a MedExpress place?? Re the doctor >who prescribed the medicines, that was the ER doctor working yesterday. > I'm not about to go back there today, when regular doctors are in >business, and I doubt very much that the same ER doctor is working there >today anyway. Re going to an ENT, why not go instead to my >opthalmologist since the question is about an eye? And he is right here >in Starkville, as opposed to the ENT, who is in Columbus. And he knows >me well since I go to him every few months to have my pressure checked >and since he and my brother were in med school together and I think >maybe did their residencies in ophthamology together. I'm still >guessing, though, that this medicine that's supposed to be curing the >ear problem will also cure the eye problem. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Phil was naming options, but the base message, was, go have somebody see the eye if it's oozing. Since you like your opthalmologist (though I'm not all that sure that you didn't just say the word to see how many ways we could mistype it), that would be fine. Just a note - please be careful to wash your hands after touching your face, and also wash your bedding/ pillowcase in hot water w/ bleach. If you have an infectious eye infection, you can spread it to the other eye, and/or reinfect this eye once it gets well, through contact with that gunk. Note also - not all oozing eyes are infectious; but the ones that are are a terrific pain in the neck because of this recurring tendency. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:15:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5FM7w006589 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:15:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E341@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:54:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 934110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:54:25 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLsPk20694 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:54:25 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFLsLGn008276 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:54:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215165229.030ed008@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:54:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <3FDE2B14.3070104@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So it was basically Jeff's doing. If they had gone on and voted him >off, as he asked them to, would it have been quitting? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think that is a very valid question. If someone had not spilled the beans to Jeff before the vote, then Osten would not have been labeled a quitter by the powers-that-be. And, in fact, this happened once before. It was the first or second edition of Survivor. One of the older guys on the tribe said he had had it and wouldn't mind being the next one voted out. I think he even asked for that. But it wasn't mentioned in council. They just voted him off, per his request. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:17:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5HL7w006654 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:17:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E333@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:56:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 934235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:56:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLuOk21037 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:56:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021BBBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:56:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152156.hBFLuOk21037@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:56:24 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:22:07 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Phil Paxton wrote: >> > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:40 PM >> >> > tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to >> survive. >> > Sickness sux big >> > time. >> >> aspirin can increase tinnitus (as a side-effect) > >According to the local ENT spec., only in very large >quantities such as most humans would not ingest >deliberately. > > Unless prescribed by a doctor, as my mother was... or in great pain and not thinking too clearly, as a friend of mine was... or young and inexperienced as I was when I didn't realize Aspergum was a medicine and had a maximum dose as a teen... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5JT7w006675 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:19:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E35B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 934415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFLwVk21331 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021BBD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:58:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200312152158.hBFLwVk21331@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:42:21 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> My mother was also in ER yesterday - she lost consciousness for a couple >> of seconds yesterday while getting into the car, and since this is a rare >> event for her she asked them to take a look at her. No cause determined >> and no indication of anything serious. > >A rare event for her? Is it a sometimes event? It does sound scary, >and I'm happy to hear that all seemed ok. > Sometimes, as in perhaps twice before in 77 years, 1 due to kidney infection or 2 bad medicine reaction. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:22:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5MS7w006708 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:22:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021BC4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 935105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:29 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFM1Rk22011 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:00:56 PST Message-ID: <20031215220056.13275.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Saddam coverage II To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > They kept saying Saddam had been taken to an > "undisclosed location" All I could think was that > he was going to meet with Cheney. Give us a peek at this scenario from your standpoint. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:22:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5Ml7w006713 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:22:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E3B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 935240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:49 -0500 Received: from BAY0-HMR05.adinternal.hotmail.com (bay0-hmr05.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.241.204]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFM1nk22094 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:49 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.8.21]) by BAY0-HMR05.adinternal.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:01:43 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:01:43 -0800 Received: from 216.249.149.232 by law9-oe49.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:01:43 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.249.149.232] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] X-Sender: amyb_short@hotmail.com From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:54:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2003 22:01:43.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[06850DA0:01C3C357] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >USA Today: Captured >Portland Press Herald: 'We Got Him' >Boston Globe: Prisoner Hussein >bonnie http://www.virginislandsdailynews.com/preview.html (formerly Gannett; sold off a few years ago) AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5PN7w006741 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:25:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E3F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:04:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 935580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:04:25 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFM4Pk22484 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:04:25 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:04:16 PST Message-ID: <20031215220416.20805.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Saddam coverage To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marty Rosen wrote: > The Louisville Courier-Journal looked like a tabloid > clone, with a massive > headline reading" "Caught Like A Rat" or words to > that effect. You sound indignant. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:30:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5UT7w006832 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:30:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E42F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:09:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 935999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:09:31 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFM9Vk23198 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:09:31 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797F@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Saddam coverage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:09:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: John Williams [mailto:williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:59 PM > From: Karen Kay > Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:25 pm > Subject: Re: Saddam coverage > > > On Monday, December 15, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > > > I have known quite > > > a few homeless people over the years and they were > perhaps even more > > > careful about grooming than most people - at least partyly because > > > they wanted not to be pegged by such sterotyping. > > > > How did they get clean? > > Library restrooms. There are also a lot of facilities (including schools) which have showers so people can work out whenever they want to then come back and clean up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:31:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5VH7w006841 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:31:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E432@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 936027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:20 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFMAKk23271 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:20 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:10:13 PST Message-ID: <20031215221013.76978.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:10:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE2BDD.6040001@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to > sleep tonight, don't hesitate > > to take it then! > > That's what I was thinking -- that it would be a > good thing to take > before going to bed. Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy beyond what is normal for me.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:38:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5cL7w006927 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:38:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E459@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:17:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 936475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:17:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMHNk24216 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:17:23 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBFMHMW1001670 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:17:22 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBFMHKWq001625 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:17:21 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031215141131.00badc28@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:12:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Saddam coverage In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >http://www.virginislandsdailynews.com/preview.html > >(formerly Gannett; sold off a few years ago) > >AS You're not in Arizona yet? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:43:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5hB7w006978 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:43:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E485@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:22:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 936795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:22:13 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law9-oe55.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMMCk24972 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:22:12 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:22:07 -0800 Received: from 216.249.149.232 by law9-oe55.law9.hotmail.com with DAV; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:22:07 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.249.149.232] X-Originating-Email: [amyb_short@hotmail.com] X-Sender: amyb_short@hotmail.com From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:15:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2003 22:22:07.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[DFF5CF00:01C3C359] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >You're not in Arizona yet? >Betty I might be. :). But actually, I'm not. However, Master Carl and I will be there Dec. 20! AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:51:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5p17w007135 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:51:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E4B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:30:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 937295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:30:03 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMU3k26193 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:30:03 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77980@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:29:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:06 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > All to often, patients bug a doctor for an antibiotic and > doctors cave in[1] > > even though they know better[2]. As a result, there are > many varieties of > > bacteria which were easily cured even three to five years > ago which are now > > resistent and if you happen to get the right illness in the > right part of > > the world, it's you vs. bacteria - there's nothing the > antibiotic can do for > > So what should this doctor yesterday have done instead? Fwiw, I said > nothing at all to him about wanting an antibiotic. All I > said was that > my ears were driving me crazy. I can't imagine having asked him for a > particular kind of medicine. That's his field, not mine. I've posed this before: What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med school? "Doctor" Granted, there are plenty of doctors who know all of the information but can't apply it and have bedside manners like robots - these are the ones you want as diagnosticians - the true geeks & nerds in the medical community. Anecdotal story: When I was in college ca. early 80s, the software for expert systems was nothing like it is today. There was a program called Caduceus which would pose questions for data and attempt to diagnose a problem. There were a couple of medical journals which would pose challenges in the back like many newspapers and magazines have crossword puzzles. A good physician would be capable of diagnosing 35%-40% over time. Caduceus could solve 80%-85%. That's what you want in terms of diagnosing real-life bafflers. If something keeps eluding everyone and you know it "just isn't right" and "time is of the essence"...it's time to find a good diagnostician. > So what should this doctor yesterday have done instead? Fwiw, I said > nothing at all to him about wanting an antibiotic. All I > said was that > my ears were driving me crazy. I can't imagine having asked him for a > particular kind of medicine. That's his field, not mine. There are several questions I pose even when I've been seeing the same doctor for something else - in your case I'll use the pain: 1) Based on the meds you know I'm taking (and I make sure they know what I'm taking before they write a script), are there any interactions I need to know about - they'll keep me awake, urinate funny colors[1], what foods I shouldn't eat, etc.? 2) What types of symptoms should I be aware of to know I'm having an interaction which needs to be attended to? 3) How soon should I notice a decrease in the pain [and how much of a decrease]? 4) How soon should the pain go away [completely]? 5) At what point should I do something about the pain not diminishing? i.e., how long should I wait to act on the fact the pain doesn't diminish? 6) In regard to #4, how soon should I do something if the pain doesn't go away? 7) With regard to any of these [problems], which should be followed up with a visit to your office and which should I get to an ER? [1] When given one of the meds I was taking as a trial earlier this ear @ Diamond, the PA (Physician's Assistant) turned to me and said, "don't be alarmed, it'll turn your urine bright, fluorescent yellow." This is a good sign even though it's something most might consider silly. (lots of vitamins & other substances will do this as well so I wouldn't have been worried but I just listened) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 14 23:55:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF5tW7w007172 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 23:55:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E4D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:34:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 937463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:34:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMYYk26570 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:34:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFMXYKX002736 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:33:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:34:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <149983400.20031215163457@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <20031215213614.57205.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031215213614.57205.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > The doctor would have warned you about anything uncomfortable, or > even lethal effects. Not necessarily. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:10:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6Ag7w007451 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021BD9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:49:44 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMnhk28214 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:49:44 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77981@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Saddam coverage Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:49:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:08 PM > > I wonder exactly how many newspapers had the headline "we > got him" this > > morning. It is a skill to be able to deliver the perfect > headlineable or > > sound-biteable quote. > > BrP > > USA Today: Captured > Portland Press Herald: 'We Got Him' > Boston Globe: Prisoner Hussein Wall Street Journal: Top,right, above fold: "U.S. Troops Capture Saddam Hussein" Investor's Business Daily: Nothing. It's printed in time for the Monday edition to be on the newsstands Saturday because there's no stock activity over the weekend. Chicago Tribune (Midwest Edition) "U.S. captures Saddam Hussein" in lettering about four or five inches tall, above the fold. Indianapolis Star (Sunday edition was already out; extra edition for $0.50, 6 pages with an overview of Saddam's bio): (red) "Extra" (1 inch letters) "HUSSEIN CAPTURED" 2-inch letters: 'WE GOT HIM' The Grey Lady (National Edition): (1 inch letters) "HUSSEIN CAUGHT IN MAKESHIFT HIDE-OUT; BUSH SAYS 'DARK ERA' FOR IRAQIS IS OVER" Chicago Tribune (Midwest Edition): (2 inch letters) U.S. Captures Saddam Hussein" (3/4 inch) "Hiding in hole, dictator taken without a shot." The Indianapolis Star has a deadline of 10pm-Midnight - at least, that's what it was before they moved to their new facility. I don't think it's far off of that. I don't know where the USA Today is printed before making it to Indy. The NYTimes rides a Greyhound from Chicago, and I'm reasonably certain the Trib comes across I-74 from Urbana-Champaign I've got CNN alerts routed to my cell phone. They sent two out within about fifteen seconds of each other ca. 05:30am Sunday. It was said Saddam was caught ca. 8-9pm Saturday, so if Iraq is Z+(3,4) and I'm at Z-5, he would have been caught roughly 12:30pm. That's seventeen hours for them to have stayed quiet. And with the embedded journalists, that must have been real, real tough. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:29:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6TJ7w008003 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:29:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021BDCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:58:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:58:20 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMwJk29336 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:58:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215225814.XFLB10709.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:58:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE3C86.10304@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:58:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7797B@EXCHSRVR1> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215161318.00b531f8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031215165229.030ed008@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215165229.030ed008@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I think that is a very valid question. If someone had not spilled the > beans to Jeff before the vote, then Osten would not have been labeled a > quitter by the powers-that-be. And, in fact, this happened once > before. It was the first or second edition of Survivor. One of the older > guys on the tribe said he had had it and wouldn't mind being the next one > voted out. I think he even asked for that. But it wasn't mentioned in > council. They just voted him off, per his request. I was thinking earlier that I had a vague memory of somebody doing that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7w008102 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E53C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:56:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:56:47 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMulk29121 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:56:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215225642.XERN10709.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE3C29.2060208@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:56:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312152151.hBFLpuk20296@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312152151.hBFLpuk20296@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Phil was naming options, but the base message, was, go have somebody > see the eye if it's oozing. Since you like your opthalmologist (though > I'm not all that sure that you didn't just say the word to see how many > ways we could mistype it), that would be fine. :-) I noticed that I misspelled it two different ways in the two times I wrote it above (deleted now) -- leaving out each of the commonly left-out letters (the first h and the first l) but not in the same writing. I really do know how to spell it, but I agree that it does not flow easily from the fingers. But when I said I found Phil's posting fascinating, I was talking mainly about MedExpress. I've never heard of that before. Is it like these quick-oil-change places? I also was interested in what he said about an ENT knowing about eyes -- as in why it would make more sense to go to an ENT instead of an ophthalmologist (except that I do think the nose/throat/ears are possibly the perps in this eye thing). I bet here on this list of I'm not the only person who remembers the old days when eyes were tossed in with ears, noses, and throats. By the time I needed glasses, they had separated, but I remember people going to eye-ear-nose-throat doctors. > Just a note - please be > careful to wash your hands after touching your face, and also wash your > bedding/ pillowcase in hot water w/ bleach. If you have an infectious > eye infection, you can spread it to the other eye, and/or reinfect this > eye once it gets well, through contact with that gunk. I'm always a fairly frequent hand-washer. The bedding thing could be a problem, though, since I don't want to have to leap up and change the pillowcase every time I turn my head the other way -- as in right eye near pillow, then left eye near pillow. > Note also - not all oozing eyes are infectious; but the ones that are > are a terrific pain in the neck because of this recurring tendency. If it's bad tomorrow, I will hie my eye to George Walker's office. He's good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7w008106 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E5AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:33 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFN7Wk30584 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215230727.XJNZ10709.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE3EAF.2030309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:07:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031215221013.76978.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031215221013.76978.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken > Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy > beyond what is normal for me.:-] I am now trying it. Took one a little while ago. I decided why not -- I don't need to think or go anywhere tonight. The bricklayers have been paid and have departed, my messy house is simply not going to get cleaned up right now, the reading matter I have piled up can wait. I may just turn on the electric teevee and find something to watch. I sometimes do that in motels. (At home I normally don't turn it on unless there's something in particular I am turning it on to watch.) That recent night in Jackson I found two interesting things by doing that -- one was that I happened upon the halftime of the SEC championship fb game and got to watch a man thanking Jesus over and over and over for letting him throw a football through a hole and get a bunch of money. I was embarrassed that he was identified as being from Mississippi. (I find it idiotic when people thank God or Jesus or Whomever for things like throwing footballs through holes or for winning games. I kept wondering if Jesus really was there in Atlanta helping that man win that money.) Then I flipped the channel again and found the middle of "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" and watched it for a while. What was interesting was that it was on a channel called something like Turner South that has movies about the South. I didn't know about that channel. But this is TMI. Mainly I wanted to say that I have taken the dizzying pain pill. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7w008105 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E5A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFN7Tk30574 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:07:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBFN7R2f024683 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:07:27 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBFN7QJC024651 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:07:26 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031215150148.00b95440@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:02:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Saddam coverage In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:15 PM 12/15/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >You're not in Arizona yet? > > >Betty > >I might be. :). > >But actually, I'm not. > >However, Master Carl and I will be there Dec. 20! It's almost time!! Sandra and I talked about you two on Sunday. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7x008102 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E5AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:02 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFN92k30705 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:02 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFN9057029426 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215180833.030eeef0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <200312152158.hBFLwVk21331@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Sometimes, as in perhaps twice before in 77 years, 1 due to kidney infection >or 2 bad medicine reaction. >clo Isn't losing consciousness the same thing as fainting? I take it they determined that she did not have a mini-stroke. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7x008104 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:16:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:16:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNGFk31406 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:16:16 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77984@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:16:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:10 PM > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to > > sleep tonight, don't hesitate > > > to take it then! > > > > That's what I was thinking -- that it would be a > > good thing to take > > before going to bed. > > > Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken > Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy > beyond what is normal for me.:-] The other thing to consider is the condition being treated. If you have all sorts of crud & buildup in your ear canal and you're treating it, that would go a long way to explain imbalance & dizzyness. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:38:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6c27w008125 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:38:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNH4k31487 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:17:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215231659.XNVW10709.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE40E5.5000207@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:16:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77980@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77980@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > I've posed this before: > > What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med > school? > "Doctor" I had that very thought yesterday, wondering why he would want to be hanging out in an ER in Starkville on a Sunday afternoon instead of having a regular practice. I know that some ER doctors love it -- love the excitement and variety. But I don't think there's all that much excitement and variety in our ER. > There are several questions I pose even when I've been seeing the same > doctor for something else - in your case I'll use the pain: > > 1) Based on the meds you know I'm taking (and I make sure they know what I'm > taking before they write a script), are there any interactions I need to > know about - they'll keep me awake, urinate funny colors[1], what foods I > shouldn't eat, etc.? The screener before I saw the doctor asked me if I took any medications and wrote them down. > 2) What types of symptoms should I be aware of to know I'm having an > interaction which needs to be attended to? Walmart's pharmacy hands out sheets with all kinds of details about medicines. It's not like the old days when you needed a PDR to get the full scoop. > 3) How soon should I notice a decrease in the pain [and how much of a > decrease]? > 4) How soon should the pain go away [completely]? > 5) At what point should I do something about the pain not diminishing? i.e., > how long should I wait to act on the fact the pain doesn't diminish? > 6) In regard to #4, how soon should I do something if the pain doesn't go > away? Heavens. I can't imagine being that picky. I did say to him, "Will these medicines start working quickly?" And he said, "The pain medicine will." > 7) With regard to any of these [problems], which should be followed up with > a visit to your office and which should I get to an ER? This doctor doesn't have an office, afaik. He hangs out in the ER. I would not go back to him if I had any problem. I'd go to my regular doctor. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7w008104 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E58E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:06:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:06:57 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFN6vk30434 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:06:57 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBFN6tcp029892 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:06:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDE3E3A.2000800@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:05:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <000001c3c32d$805dee50$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> <3FDDEAD9.4090703@maynor.net> <1586923205.20031215112241@WordWrite.com> <3FDE022B.2040708@maynor.net> <1303413856.20031215125450@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>When it works? Does it sometimes not work? >> > > Yes, of course. Not every bacterium responds to every antibiotic. > > Frankly, although I know you're sick and want it over, I'm kind of > shocked that he gave out antibiotics so easily. Make up your mind, Karen. If she's in immediate danger of brain infection, that doctor had better give her some Zithromax. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7w008103 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E548@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:59:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 938716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:59:41 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFMxYk29469 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:59:34 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:59:29 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77982@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:59:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:24 PM > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:01:25 -0600, Natalie Maynor > > wrote: > > >Phil Paxton wrote: > > > >> aspirin can increase tinnitis (as a side-effect) > > > >What's tinnitis? > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Tinnitus is ringing in the ears, caused by inflammation/damage > to the tiny cilia in the inner ear. Aspirin can also > tinnitus, as a side-effect of high doses; and so can some > antibiotics, exposure to loud noises, or high-pitched whines > as in those caused by electric motors at high decibels. Alcohol is another factor as can a concussion, which I'm dealing with. Biofeedback and acupuncture have the potential to work with tinnitus, but neither helped me. I cannot handle being anywhere without sound. If I lie down for the evening, I have to have something to override the sound in my ears. It can also be loud enough to wake me up, just as my pain can increase enough while I'm asleep to wake me up. BTW, to make tinnitis something words-l interesting, talk to related folks about how to pronounce it. It would not be unusual to line up all of the doctors for a hospital, ask them how to pronounce it and go through this (I'm not joking): you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#1: "it's tin-eye-tus" you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#2: "tin-eh-tus" you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#3: "it's tin-eye-tus" ... you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#n: "tin-eh-tus" you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#n+1: "it's tin-eye-tus" I don't know the fundamental reason for this but it's interesting (I think I can rule out geography, at least, informally). I've not tried this with nurses but I wouldn't be surprised if it would be the same. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6bt7x008103 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E5B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:56 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNCuk31032 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:56 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77983@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:44 PM > bonniev wrote: > > > It came out in the pre-vote tribal council discussion with > Jeff that Osten > > wanted to leave. Jeff did an informal poll of the tribe to > see if they all > > were willing to vote him out. They nodded. Jeff said > there was no need > > for a vote and asked Osten to bring his torch. Jeff > snuffed the torch and > > told him to "go home." > > So it was basically Jeff's doing. If they had gone on and voted him > off, as he asked them to, would it have been quitting? But we don't know what other finagling went on off-camera. Remember, they're showing us what they want us to see. There are three days for an immunity challenge and three days for a treat challenge. That's 6 days * 24 hours = 124 raw hours of taping. Excluding commercials, Survivor airs roughly for 46 minutes (7 minutes/half-hour). That's 0.62% net. They have a LOT of material with to bend the events into whatever they want to show us. Do you think they just happen to talk spontaneously when the camera is on them, away from everyone? No, they're being interviewed. "What did you think about when Jon claimed his granny was dead?" "If Osten wants to quit and you know everyone else knows that, would you all vote him out?" We don't even see references to people running off into the woods to be alone as was hinted in the first two series. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:39:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6dR7w008150 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:39:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E5D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:18:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:18:29 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNISk31641 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:18:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBFNIRcp017765 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:18:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDE40EE.5020702@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:17:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031215212207.97507.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > >>>From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] >>>Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:40 PM >>> >>>tomorrow. I'm guzzling aspirin and hoping to >>> >>survive. >> >>>Sickness sux big >>>time. >>> >>aspirin can increase tinnitus (as a side-effect) >> > > According to the local ENT spec., only in very large > quantities such as most humans would not ingest > deliberately. My blood pressure medications cause tinnitus as a side effect. Pretty annoying. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:39:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6dX7w008159 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:39:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:18:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:18:35 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFN8Yk30659 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:08:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 65711 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Dec 2003 23:08:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:08:33 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Message-ID: <20031215230833.GA64243@words-l.org> References: <20031215220416.20805.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031215220416.20805.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:04:16PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Marty Rosen wrote: > > The Louisville Courier-Journal looked like a tabloid > > clone, with a massive > > headline reading" "Caught Like A Rat" or words to > > that effect. > > You sound indignant. And that just makes you mad! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:40:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6eI7w008174 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:40:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNJGk31735 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:19:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77985@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:19:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:58 PM > bonniev wrote: > > > I think that is a very valid question. If someone had not > spilled the > > beans to Jeff before the vote, then Osten would not have > been labeled a > > quitter by the powers-that-be. And, in fact, this happened once > > before. It was the first or second edition of Survivor. > One of the older > > guys on the tribe said he had had it and wouldn't mind > being the next one > > voted out. I think he even asked for that. But it wasn't > mentioned in > > council. They just voted him off, per his request. > > I was thinking earlier that I had a vague memory of somebody > doing that. That took place during one of the other series but during this series there was someone they were getting tired of so they basically went into slo-mo to lose so they'd go to tribal council and remove them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:41:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6fb7w008197 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:41:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:39 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFNAdk30831 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:10:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 67025 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Dec 2003 23:10:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031215231037.GB64243@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77980@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77980@EXCHSRVR1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > I've posed this before: > > What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med > school? > "Doctor" This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. I won't think about doctors the same way again. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6fg7w008200 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:41:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E5E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNKhk31906 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:43 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-161.gwi.net [216.195.151.161]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBFNKg57031764 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031215181616.030f6008@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:20:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77983@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There are three days for an immunity >challenge and three days for a treat challenge. That's 6 days * 24 hours = >124 raw hours of taping. I think you are wrong. Each three days there is both a reward challenge and an immunity challenge. But you are right that they have many hours of footage to distill into 46 minutes. And 6 times 24 is 144. >Do you think they just happen to talk spontaneously when the camera is on >them, >away from everyone? No, they're being interviewed. Well, of course. > "What did you think about when Jon claimed his granny was dead?" Huh? I'm sure the interviewer would not use the word "claimed" and risk spilling the beans to the others about things that are said only to the camera. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:42:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6gN7w008217 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:42:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021BE49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:21:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:21:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNLPk31974 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:21:25 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:21:20 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77986@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:21:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:09 PM > >Sometimes, as in perhaps twice before in 77 years, 1 due to > kidney infection > >or 2 bad medicine reaction. > >clo > > Isn't losing consciousness the same thing as fainting? I take it they > determined that she did not have a mini-stroke. Are you talking about a TIA (Transient-Ischemic Attack)? One could have several of those in a row and may not even realize it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:43:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6hc7w008245 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:43:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:22:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 939639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:22:33 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBFNCWk30999 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 68074 invoked by uid 1003); 15 Dec 2003 23:12:31 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:12:31 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Message-ID: <20031215231229.GC64243@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77981@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77981@EXCHSRVR1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:49:35PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > I've got CNN alerts routed to my cell phone. They sent two out within about > fifteen seconds of each other ca. 05:30am Sunday. It was said Saddam was > caught ca. 8-9pm Saturday, so if Iraq is Z+(3,4) and I'm at Z-5, he would > have been caught roughly 12:30pm. That's seventeen hours for them to have > stayed quiet. And with the embedded journalists, that must have been real, > real tough. Interesting! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:44:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6ii7w008278 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:44:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E5EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:23:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:23:45 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNNek32178 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:23:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215232335.XQVU10709.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:23:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE4276.3050305@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:23:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77985@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77985@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>>council. They just voted him off, per his request. >> >>I was thinking earlier that I had a vague memory of somebody >>doing that. > > That took place during one of the other series but during this series there > was someone they were getting tired of so they basically went into slo-mo to > lose so they'd go to tribal council and remove them. Yes, but that's a whole nother thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:46:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6kE7w008315 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:46:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E5EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNPFk32434 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:16 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:17 PM > I had that very thought yesterday, wondering why he would want to be > hanging out in an ER in Starkville on a Sunday afternoon instead of > having a regular practice. I know that some ER doctors love > it -- love > the excitement and variety. But I don't think there's all that much > excitement and variety in our ER. You never know. I used to get tired of Spring. Once late Spring came along, people got Spring Fever and hit the water with their boats. Then boredom set in and they started drinking. And if you think drinking & driving is bad...think about the fact there are no roads out on the water. Kosciusko county's population would double in the Summer when the "lakers" came in. You'd also be surprised how many ways people can find to hurt themselves which after-the-fact look stupid but going into it it didn't seem so silly... > > 7) With regard to any of these [problems], which should be > followed up with > > a visit to your office and which should I get to an ER? > > This doctor doesn't have an office, afaik. He hangs out in the ER. I > would not go back to him if I had any problem. I'd go to my regular > doctor. Well, then switch it around. I think you were reading between the lines a bit too closely (unnecessarily). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:52:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6qU7w008416 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:52:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021BE3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:31:31 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNVVk00785 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:31:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031215233126.XUGZ10709.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:31:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE444E.9040305@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:31:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > Well, then switch it around. I think you were reading between the lines a > bit too closely (unnecessarily). My real point was that I'm just not that picky a patient. I figure I'll find out how fast a medicine works, I know that Wmart's sheet will tell me anything I might need to know about side-effects or whatever, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:55:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6tE7w008453 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:55:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:34:16 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNYGk01216 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:34:16 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:34:11 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77988@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:34:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:11 PM > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > I've posed this before: > > > > What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of > their class in med > > school? > > "Doctor" > > This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. > I won't think about doctors the same way again. I was loaned a copy of Frank Abignale's "Catch Me If You Can" with the proviso I wouldn't do anything I read (I didn't know what it was at the time) - I've only seen bits 'n pieces of the movie. Acting as a doctor would have been the easiest one - let all of the in-training people do the work. In the book, that made everyone very, very happy. I had a lot of free time in high school. I learned how to read EKGs very well. I couldn't officially diagnose (so I couldn't read my thoughts on the radio) but when we got there, I knew what was wrong (if it was the heart). I also memorized chunks of the PDR (I told you I had a lot of spare time - books never went home). It was interesting when we'd be in the ER for awhile and they'd be talking about what to give the poor soul and my mentor would look at me. I had to be real coy, but signal when it was contraindicated. I saved a few lives. > This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. > I won't think about doctors the same way again. Why not? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:56:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6ui7w008475 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:56:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E5F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:35:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:35:46 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNZkk01490 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:35:46 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:35:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77989@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:35:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:21 PM > Huh? I'm sure the interviewer would not use the word > "claimed" and risk > spilling the beans to the others about things that are said > only to the camera. I just threw that out for an example. It could have been anything. There's plenty of interesting information which I'm sure would spice it up a bit which they filter out. I think they keep it toned down for the purposes of longevity of the show. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 00:59:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF6xH7w008495 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:59:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E606@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:38:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:38:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNcJk01791 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:38:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBFNcI6X009786 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:38:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:38:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <722069928.20031215173847@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDE3EAF.2030309@maynor.net> References: <20031215221013.76978.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDE3EAF.2030309@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: >> Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken >> Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy >> beyond what is normal for me.:-] > I am now trying it. ... > But this is TMI. Mainly I wanted to say that I have taken the dizzying > pain pill. Which is not Zithromax. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 01:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF7157w008567 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:01:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E626@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:40:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 940637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:40:07 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNe6k02021 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:40:06 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798A@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:40:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:31 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > Well, then switch it around. I think you were reading > between the lines a > > bit too closely (unnecessarily). > > My real point was that I'm just not that picky a patient. I > figure I'll > find out how fast a medicine works, I know that Wmart's sheet will > tell me anything I might need to know about side-effects or > whatever, etc. That's your choice.... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 01:17:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF7Ha7w008843 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:17:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E672@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 941349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:56:38 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNuck03397 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:56:38 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:56:32 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798B@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:56:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:50 PM > I find this all fascinating. What's a MedExpress place?? Re They're off-hours medical offices which aren't ERs but have a staff to deal with lesser problems. The better ones keep a doctor on-staff 7x24 in order to attract people to them. I don't have an idea as to how large a city would be to have these things - I don't see them much in the daytime - they show up because of the neon lights at night. If you don't have a regular doctor and don't want to go through the hassles of the ER, you go to one of those places. They have a bunch of different names but the same principle. I have no idea regarding legislation, regulation, licensing, etc. -> I don't know what minimal type of staff they have to have on-site. e.g., my personal doctor's office has a Nurse Practitioner and both my personal doctor's office and Diamond have Physician's Assistants. The NPs and PAs have been very helpful for me to get into my doctor's office for something which doesn't actually require an MD for a procedure or if they need to make a decision based on their expertise as to what needs to be done. IMO, there could be considerably more NPs and PAs to help with health expenses (this is not to say we already are short several hundred thousand nursing positions, some of this is predictible). Anyway, as far as the express facilities go, there is the chance you could lapse in judgement and take someone there who is on death's doorstep when they really need to be in an ER, but there's also the possibility an MD could be there and then it becomes a race as to what the doc could do there vs. a paramedic/emt crew could do in an ambulance racing to the er. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 01:18:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF7Iu7w008854 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:18:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E674@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:57:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 941377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:57:58 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNvwk03487 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:57:58 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:57:53 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798C@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: No Survivor comments? Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:57:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:56 PM > Re Darrah, I may run into her one of these days. There was a little > blurb about her in the Jackson paper today, and it said that she's now > living in Ridgeland and studying to become a dental hygienist. > Ridgeland is a suburb of Jackson and is an area I normally > spend time in > when I go to Jackson. If I need to do mall-shopping, I always go to > Northpark Mall, which people normally say is "in Jackson" but which > technically is in Ridgeland. I might bump into Darrah > looking at purses > in McRae's. I thought the mortician lived in MS ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 01:20:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF7KP7w008898 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:20:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E66D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:59:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 941404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:59:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBFNxQk03565 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:59:26 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.176.2348d7f8 (4446) for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:59:11 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <176.2348d7f8.2d0fa4cf@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:59:11 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/15/2003 5:34:39 PM Central Standard Time, PPaxton@ESCIENT.COM writes: << I was loaned a copy of Frank Abignale's "Catch Me If You Can" >> He has an office a little ways west of here. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 02:42:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF8gD7w010230 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:42:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E7D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:21:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 944585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:21:14 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG1LEk10047 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:21:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBG1LCCQ005488 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:21:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDE5DAC.1030308@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:19:40 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > You never know. I used to get tired of Spring. Once late Spring came > along, people got Spring Fever and hit the water with their boats. Then > boredom set in and they started drinking. And if you think drinking & > driving is bad...think about the fact there are no roads out on the water. > Kosciusko county's population would double in the Summer when the "lakers" > came in. Drinking while boating* is absolutely necessary. Take note, festers! *Kev doesn't drink, and he drives the boat. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 02:53:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF8rb7w010430 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:53:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E7D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:32:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 944874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:32:38 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG1Wck10732 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:32:38 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HPYRY602.8VI for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:18 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <175fe0171e91.171e91175fe0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:25:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Phil Paxton > Kosciusko county's population would double in the Summer when the > "lakers"came in. We had "lakers" in Steuben county as well. They weren't any better. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 02:54:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF8sC7w010460 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 02:54:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E7E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:33:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 944632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:33:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG1NDk10176 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:23:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBG1LsKo029865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:21:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:23:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDE5DAC.1030308@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> <3FDE5DAC.1030308@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Drinking while boating* is absolutely necessary. Take note, >festers! Well, that leaves me out. >*Kev doesn't drink, and he drives the boat. But not the designated boater, eh? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:09:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF99K7w010696 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:09:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021C064@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:48:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 945509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:48:21 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG1mLk12354 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:48:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBG1mKCQ007701 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:48:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:46:46 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't think of anything clever this year for the itty bitty gifts I give to some of the people I work with. Agnes did Christmas socks, which is an adorable idea since quite a few of us sport sandals and socks on occasion (tomorrow might be the only day warm enough to wear mine with my new red cork sandals that I bought because they were made in Greece). And I need a little something for my student assistant from Webster University who has been chasing down students and grading papers for me a couple days a week. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:15:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9FC7w010778 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:15:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021C09E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:54:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 945344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:54:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG1iBk11962 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:44:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 57102 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Dec 2003 01:44:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:44:10 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031216014409.GA53852@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77982@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77982@EXCHSRVR1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:59:28PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > It would not be unusual to line up all of the doctors for a hospital, ask > them how to pronounce it and go through this (I'm not joking): I'd never suspect you were joking! > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#1: "it's tin-eye-tus" > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#2: "tin-eh-tus" > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#3: "it's tin-eye-tus" > ... > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#n: "tin-eh-tus" > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#n+1: "it's tin-eye-tus" Let me guess--n is an even number. > I don't know the fundamental reason for this but it's interesting (I think I > can rule out geography, at least, informally). I've not tried this with > nurses but I wouldn't be surprised if it would be the same. How so? Nurses didn't pass at the bottom of the class in med school. For assume that they did; then you'd be calling them "doctor". The contradiction in the syllogism reduces to an absurdity, thus completing the demonstration. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:19:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9Ix7w010845 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:19:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E83B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:58:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 945690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:58:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG1w0k12885 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:58:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBG1vxrm024128 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:57:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:58:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <535237983.20031215195829@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts In-Reply-To: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> References: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 15, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > And I need a little something for my student > assistant from Webster University who has been chasing down > students and grading papers for me a couple days a week. Ornaments? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:22:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9Mj7w010885 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:22:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E852@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:01:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 945543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:01:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG1pjk12483 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:51:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBG1oQKo006664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:50:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:51:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts In-Reply-To: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: Today, I bought tiny angels with individuals' names on them - and tiny pink pigs (with accompanyiung lit) as goodluck pieces. I bought them at Emory's, our one and only 5-10 Cent Store. (THere are no names on the pigs.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:29:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9TC7w010956 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:29:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E845@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:08:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 945990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:08:13 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG28Ck13771 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:08:12 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBG28Bcp009137 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:08:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDE68AC.9060405@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:06:36 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts References: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > > Today, I bought tiny angels with individuals' names on them - and tiny > pink pigs (with accompanyiung lit) as goodluck pieces. I bought them at > Emory's, our one and only 5-10 Cent Store. (THere are no names on the > pigs.) Maybe I can find some aromatherapy for *patience* (of which we are all in short supply these days). When did angels become petite blondes, anyway? Aren't angels male? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:31:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9VN7w011012 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:31:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021C0C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:10:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 946020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:09:37 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG29ak13837 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:09:36 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBG29Zcp010319 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDE6900.4020303@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:08:00 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> <3FDE5DAC.1030308@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >>*Kev doesn't drink, and he drives the boat. >> > > But not the designated boater, eh? Only if I'm the designated boater. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:33:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9Xx7w011050 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:33:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E865@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:12:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 946137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:12:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG2Cxk14105 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:12:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBG2CwW1019044 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:58 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBG2CvWq019012; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:12:57 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031215181451.00a33870@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:15:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: The boat In-Reply-To: <3FDE5DAC.1030308@swbell.net> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:19 PM 12/15/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Drinking while boating* is absolutely necessary. Take note, >festers! How many people can the boat hold? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:35:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9Zv7w011078 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:35:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E871@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 946185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG2Evk14211 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBG2Eu2f022472 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:14:56 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBG2EtJC022452; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:14:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031215181633.00a2ade0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:17:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts In-Reply-To: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Candles, nice Christmas placements, napkins, towels. Homemade treats. Betty At 07:46 PM 12/15/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >I can't think of anything clever this year for the itty >bitty gifts I give to some of the people I work with. Agnes >did Christmas socks, which is an adorable idea since quite a >few of us sport sandals and socks on occasion (tomorrow >might be the only day warm enough to wear mine with my new >red cork sandals that I bought because they were made in >Greece). And I need a little something for my student >assistant from Webster University who has been chasing down >students and grading papers for me a couple days a week. > >-- >Rita Rouvalis Chapman >rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >http://www.etext.org/~rita > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 03:52:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBF9qM7w011387 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 03:52:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E886@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 946736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:31:22 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG2VMk15632 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:31:22 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:31:17 PST Message-ID: <20031216023117.50079.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Saddam coverage To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031215230833.GA64243@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > You sound indignant. > > And that just makes you mad! Sweet, perspicacious Hog. I type three words, and he knows my mind. Or maybe he knows my mind because he's read my posts. Pray continue. Why should I be mad? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:10:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAA07w012554 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:10:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021C146@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:48:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 947405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:49:00 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG2n0k17158 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:49:00 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:48:29 PST Message-ID: <20031216024829.92743.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:48:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <722069928.20031215173847@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > I am now trying it. ... > > But this is TMI. Mainly I wanted to say that I > have taken the dizzying > > pain pill. > > Which is not Zithromax. > > Karen She's right, you know. She did not read the label correctly, Ms. Kay, because she's dizzy from the Zithromax. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:16:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAGP7w012671 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:16:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E8FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:55:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 947613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:55:26 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG2tPk17574 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:55:25 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:54:27 PST Message-ID: <20031216025427.57383.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:54:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <176.2348d7f8.2d0fa4cf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Evelyn Duncan > EDuncan368@aol.com > I'm not lost; I'm exploring. Well, I did wonder where you were. What have you discovered so far? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:23:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFANU7w012781 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:23:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E8FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:02:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 947897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:02:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG32Uk18192 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:02:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216030225.BVXT4878.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:02:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE75C0.9090603@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:02:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77988@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77988@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. >>I won't think about doctors the same way again. > > Why not? Because you have opened his eyes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:26:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAQL7w012822 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:26:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E91E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:05:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 947967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:05:21 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG35Lk18375 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:05:21 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:04:57 PST Message-ID: <20031216030457.76603.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE5DAC.1030308@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: * is absolutely > necessary. Take note, > festers! > > > > *Kev doesn't drink, and he drives the boat. I have seen two horrendous boating tragedies caused by drunk "lakers" when the drivers were not drinking. Being around water while intoxicated is foolhardy and potentially lethal. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:30:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAU37w012879 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:30:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021C15F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:09:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:09:03 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG393k18624 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:09:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216030858.BXWL4878.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:08:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE7746.4050304@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:08:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031215221013.76978.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDE3EAF.2030309@maynor.net> <722069928.20031215173847@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <722069928.20031215173847@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>I am now trying it. ... >>But this is TMI. Mainly I wanted to say that I have taken the dizzying >>pain pill. > > Which is not Zithromax. Correct. And I have thoroughly enjoyed the night, btw. I ended up not turning on tv but instead snuggling up on the couch corner with Spencer beside me and loving the book Lynne sent me eons ago that I had had in the to-read stack. Actually, I had read a few pages of it shortly before Thanksgiving, thinking I would have reading time Tgiving. But then something happened to Tgiving. I can't remember what now. It vanished. Anyway, the pill has not made me dizzy but has made me feel wonderfully laid-back. Content. Not zipping off in a thousand directions. I don't mean I read the whole book tonight. Even with two eyes, I am a leisurely reader. I don't like zooming through pleasure reading. And tonight only one eye was working. I'm worried that tomorrow I may be eyeless since a glob suddenly oozed out of the good eye a little while ago. Maybe the one that's been bad will be well by tomorrow, and tomorrow can be the day for the next one. In any case, just wanted to report that I am glad I took the pill. It took away the ear pain and made me feel relaxed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:32:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAWD7w012909 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:32:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E92C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG3BEk18745 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:11:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216031108.BYLU4878.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE77CC.200@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:11:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798B@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798B@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > They're off-hours medical offices which aren't ERs but have a staff to deal > with lesser problems. The better ones keep a doctor on-staff 7x24 in order > to attract people to them. I don't have an idea as to how large a city > would be to have these things - I don't see them much in the daytime - they > show up because of the neon lights at night. Starkville isn't awash in them. But I do like the idea. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:34:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAYR7w012934 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:34:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7E931@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:13:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:13:27 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG3DRk19080 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:13:27 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:13:21 PST Message-ID: <20031216031321.68689.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Today, I bought tiny angels with individuals' names > on them - and tiny > pink pigs (with accompanyiung lit) as goodluck > pieces. I bought them at > Emory's, our one and only 5-10 Cent Store. (THere > are no names on the > pigs.) I wish we HAD an Emory's around here. Maybe Rita C. could go with personalized pigs. I don't see her going the angelic route. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:35:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAZd7w012942 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:35:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E93D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:14:40 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG3Eek19133 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:14:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216031434.BZLW4878.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:14:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE789A.8010704@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:14:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798C@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798C@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >>Re Darrah, I may run into her one of these days. There was a little >>blurb about her in the Jackson paper today, and it said that she's now >>living in Ridgeland and studying to become a dental hygienist. >>Ridgeland is a suburb of Jackson and is an area I normally >>spend time in >>when I go to Jackson. If I need to do mall-shopping, I always go to >>Northpark Mall, which people normally say is "in Jackson" but which >>technically is in Ridgeland. I might bump into Darrah >>looking at purses >>in McRae's. > > I thought the mortician lived in MS ? Yes. She's from Liberty, MS -- southern part of the state. But she has now moved to Jackson (Greater Jackson -- technically she lives in Ridgeland, according to the newspaper), where she is becoming a dental hygienist. http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0312/15/ma02.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:37:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAbg7w012951 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:37:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7E929@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:16:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:16:42 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG3Ggk19310 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:16:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.161.28]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216031637.CABN4878.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:16:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDE7914.4030406@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:16:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts References: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I can't think of anything clever this year for the itty > bitty gifts I give to some of the people I work with. Agnes > did Christmas socks, which is an adorable idea since quite a > few of us sport sandals and socks on occasion (tomorrow > might be the only day warm enough to wear mine with my new > red cork sandals that I bought because they were made in > Greece). And I need a little something for my student > assistant from Webster University who has been chasing down > students and grading papers for me a couple days a week. How about food items? Or if you'd rather not do food, how about Christmas towels (as in small towels -- kitchen or hand towels) or some such? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:38:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAci7w012960 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:38:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021C187@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:17:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:17:44 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG3Hik19405 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:17:44 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:16:06 PST Message-ID: <20031216031606.91348.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:16:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE68AC.9060405@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > > Maybe I can find some aromatherapy for > *patience* (of which > we are all in short supply these days). > > When did angels become petite blondes, > anyway? Aren't angels > male? They're like cats, it's hard to tell. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:41:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAfr7w012994 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:41:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021C1A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:20:54 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG3Ksk19606 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:20:54 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:19:19 PST Message-ID: <20031216031919.81293.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:19:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE75C0.9090603@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Because you have opened his eyes. That explains his interpretations of many posts. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:46:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAkM7w013095 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:46:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E95C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:25:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:25:23 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG3PHk19883 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:25:17 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:25:07 PST Message-ID: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:25:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE7746.4050304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Correct. And I have thoroughly enjoyed the night, > btw. I ended up not > turning on tv but instead snuggling up on the couch > corner with Spencer > beside me and loving the book Lynne sent me eons ago > that I had had in > the to-read stack. Actually, I had read a few pages > of it shortly > before Thanksgiving, thinking I would have reading > time Tgiving. But > then something happened to Tgiving. I can't > remember what now. It > vanished. Anyway, the pill has not made me dizzy > but has made me feel > wonderfully laid-back. Content. Not zipping off in > a thousand > directions. I don't mean I read the whole book > tonight. Even with two > eyes, I am a leisurely reader. I don't like zooming > through pleasure > reading. And tonight only one eye was working. I'm > worried that > tomorrow I may be eyeless since a glob suddenly > oozed out of the good > eye a little while ago. Maybe the one that's been > bad will be well by > tomorrow, and tomorrow can be the day for the next > one. In any case, > just wanted to report that I am glad I took the > pill. It took away the > ear pain and made me feel relaxed. That's a fine way to spend an evening even when you are well. Snuggling with Jaysie, I must say though, is a rather overwhelming experience. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 04:49:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFAnv7w013148 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:49:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7E968@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:28:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 948739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:28:57 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG3Svk20335 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:28:57 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:28:50 PST Message-ID: <20031216032850.5754.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:28:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDE7914.4030406@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > How about food items? Or if you'd rather not do > food, how about > Christmas towels (as in small towels -- kitchen or > hand towels) or some > such? Every year, I wish I had more Christmassy guest towels for the bath. If I were your assistant from Webster, I would welcome that gift. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 05:55:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFBt17w014042 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 05:55:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7EC8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:34:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 955186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:34:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG4Nxk26965 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:23:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBG4MxKX023191 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:23:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:24:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1581564956.20031215222420@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Childproofing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was posted to another list by someone I'd really like to help out: > Anyone found a great solution for locking down a Windows machine so kids > can't break anything? My daughter's only 4 but is already logging largely > unsupervised play sessions (daddy's back is to her, as he plays on his own > computer). So, I'd like her PC configured such that she just has launching > icons to her applications and websites and can't accidentally play in the > file system, control panels, etc. This person is more than computer literate. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 06:09:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFC997w014247 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7ECA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:48:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 955962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:48:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG4m9k29252 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:48:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021C5A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200312160448.hBG4m9k29252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:48:09 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:10:13 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to >> sleep tonight, don't hesitate >> > to take it then! >> >> That's what I was thinking -- that it would be a >> good thing to take >> before going to bed. > > >Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken >Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy >beyond what is normal for me.:-] > > I guess! ;) This discussion point was not abt Zithromax, but abt a pain medication that listed dizziness as a side-effect. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 06:16:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFCGb7w014340 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:16:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7ECBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 956150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:55:26 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG4tQk29954 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:55:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021C581@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:55:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200312160455.hBG4tQk29954@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:55:26 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: No Survivor comments? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:09:16 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Sometimes, as in perhaps twice before in 77 years, 1 due to kidney infection >>or 2 bad medicine reaction. >>clo > >Isn't losing consciousness the same thing as fainting? I take it they >determined that she did not have a mini-stroke. > > >bonnie Yes, it is. And no, I don't know that they did. I wasn't there; but whatever they said didn't alarm her, so I take it they didn't discuss TIAs with her. Auburn hospital is not famous for taking good care of older people. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 06:20:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFCKC7w014379 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:20:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7ECD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:59:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 956359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:59:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG4xCk30384 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:59:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021C5C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:59:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:59:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:16:53 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Phil Paxton wrote: > >> I've posed this before: >> >> What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med >> school? >> "Doctor" > >I had that very thought yesterday, wondering why he would want to be >hanging out in an ER in Starkville on a Sunday afternoon instead of >having a regular practice. I know that some ER doctors love it -- love >the excitement and variety. But I don't think there's all that much >excitement and variety in our ER. > In some small town hospitals, the Drs in town have to share in ER work in order to gain hospital privileges. So some do it because it keeps the hospital open, and because it gives them access to its facilities. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 06:46:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFCkv7w014706 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:46:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021C6C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 0:25:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 958900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:24:38 -0500 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG5NXk00748 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:23:33 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.93.37348c3f (3699) for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:23:21 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <93.37348c3f.2d0ff0c9@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:23:21 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/15/2003 8:55:48 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Well, I did wonder where you were. What have you discovered so far? >> I don't have enough time to do everything I need to do. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 07:25:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFDPg7w015168 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:25:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021C792@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 1:04:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 960920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:04:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PANYopn/9oI1W+PyKNGypa0MXAKruQIx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBG64fk05887 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:04:41 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2449A30607 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B3B23349 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:04:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1581564956.20031215222420@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:04:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Childproofing Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >This was posted to another list by someone I'd really like to help >out: > >> Anyone found a great solution for locking down a Windows machine so kids >> can't break anything? My daughter's only 4 but is already logging largely >> unsupervised play sessions (daddy's back is to her, as he plays on his own >> computer). So, I'd like her PC configured such that she just has launching >> icons to her applications and websites and can't accidentally play in the >> file system, control panels, etc. > >This person is more than computer literate. > >Karen If the machine in question is using Windows 2000 or Windows XP, it is relatively easy to give the child a separate logon with its own profile, using permissions and local group policies. However, "relatively" is the key word here, and I couldn't even begin to attempt to provide a generic set of directions through email. If money isn't too tight, it might be worth investing in a copy of a third-party security product such as Fortres ($59 for one license, $10 for the CD, and $10 for shipping from www.fortres.com). If the machine in question is running Windows ME or 98 or something earlier, third-party software is probably the only way to do it. No matter what the parents do, by the time the child is ten she will 0wnzzor that machine. Computer security is better understood as a process of buying time than a process of creating safety. Ken Miller Systems Annalist Babbage Engine Works From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 09:12:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFFCP7w016403 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:12:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F057@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 2:51:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 964355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:51:24 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG7fOk14652 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:41:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 65083 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Dec 2003 07:41:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:41:21 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Message-ID: <20031216074121.GA62201@words-l.org> References: <20031215230833.GA64243@words-l.org> <20031216023117.50079.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031216023117.50079.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:31:17PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > > You sound indignant. > > > > And that just makes you mad! > > Sweet, perspicacious Hog. I type three words, and he > knows my mind. Or maybe he knows my mind because he's > read my posts. Pray continue. Why should I be mad? Oh, my mind must have been jarling back to the glory days of words-l ... The golden age of stupid ambiguous insinuation as a tool to repress self-doubt and boost self-esteem. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 09:16:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFFGK7w016481 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:16:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F062@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 2:55:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 964377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:55:19 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBG7jJk14806 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 02:45:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 68102 invoked by uid 1003); 16 Dec 2003 07:45:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:45:17 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Childproofing Message-ID: <20031216074517.GB62201@words-l.org> References: <1581564956.20031215222420@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:04:23PM -0800, Bookrat wrote: > No matter what the parents do, by the time the child is ten she will > 0wnzzor that machine. Computer security is better understood as a > process of buying time than a process of creating safety. I see that "computer security" is the new hip slang for "windows security". Where did it originate? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 11:34:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFHYg7w018594 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:34:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F116@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 5:13:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 966399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:13:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGADek23648 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:13:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBGADcrm001158 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:13:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:14:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <166601393.20031216041411@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Childproofing In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Bookrat wrote: > If the machine in question is using Windows 2000 or Windows XP, it is > relatively easy to give the child a separate logon with its own profile, > using permissions and local group policies. However, "relatively" is the > key word here, and I couldn't even begin to attempt to provide a generic > set of directions through email. Right--I suggested this, but was a bit embarrassed to do so because it's so obvious and this woman is so smart and capable. > If money isn't too tight, it might be worth investing in a copy of a > third-party security product such as Fortres ($59 for one license, $10 for > the CD, and $10 for shipping from www.fortres.com). > No matter what the parents do, by the time the child is ten she will > 0wnzzor that machine. Computer security is better understood as a process > of buying time than a process of creating safety. Thanks, I passed on the software rec and the last paragraph.:) I met the kid at a party a couple of weeks ago and she is cute as a button, but VERY curious, like her mom, so I think you're right. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 13:10:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFJAf7w020003 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:10:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021CA71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 6:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 119659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:49:38 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGBnbk29287 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:49:37 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBGBmvDX001810 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:48:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDEF0FA.60306@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:48:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031216030457.76603.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Rita Chapman wrote: > * is absolutely > >>necessary. Take note, >>festers! >> >> >> >>*Kev doesn't drink, and he drives the boat. >> > > > I have seen two horrendous boating tragedies caused by > drunk "lakers" when the drivers were not drinking. > Being around water while intoxicated is foolhardy and > potentially lethal. LOL. Anyway, we boat on the river. If you're zipping around drunk, a sandbar or wing dam will get you pretty quick. We wouldn't be caught dead boating on Lake of the Ozarks, where there are no Darwinian hazards to take out the worst drivers. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 14:15:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFKFT7w020875 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:15:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F349@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 7:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:54:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGCsLk21582 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:54:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021CB59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 7:54:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312161254.hBGCsLk21582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:54:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> I've posed this before: >> >> What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med >> school? >> "Doctor" > >This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. >I won't think about doctors the same way again. What way did you think of them before? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 14:44:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFKie7w021267 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:44:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F3AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 8:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:23:36 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBGDNak24429 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:23:36 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:23:30 PST Message-ID: <20031216132330.60232.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:23:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Saddam coverage To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031216074121.GA62201@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Oh, my mind must have been jarling back to the glory > days of words-l ... The golden age of stupid > ambiguous > insinuation as a tool to repress self-doubt and > boost > self-esteem. Dear, nostalgic Hog. You have made a valiant effort. I'm glad you are a traditionalist. I feel a strange kinship with you. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 14:49:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFKnW7w021357 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:49:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F3BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 8:28:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:28:28 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBGDSSk24725 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:28:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:28:23 PST Message-ID: <20031216132823.47763.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:28:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312160448.hBG4m9k29252@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to > >> sleep tonight, don't hesitate > >> > to take it then! > >> > >> That's what I was thinking -- that it would be a > >> good thing to take > >> before going to bed. > > > > > >Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken > >Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy > >beyond what is normal for me.:-] > > > > > > I guess! ;) > > This discussion point was not abt Zithromax, but abt > a pain medication > that listed dizziness as a side-effect. Oh! I stand corrected. I thought Natalie said the Zithromax made one dizzy. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:18:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLIS7w021797 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:18:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F451@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 8:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:57:24 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGDvNk28219 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:57:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216135717.CQIJ7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:57:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:57:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > That's a fine way to spend an evening even when you > are well. Snuggling with Jaysie, I must say though, > is a rather overwhelming experience. Yes, it is a fine way to spend an evening. What was especially nice last night, though, was that my mind wasn't racing around making lists of things I needed to do the next day, etc. etc. I felt . Re snuggling, Bernard was always a super-snuggler. Spencer, otoh, came into my life as a total non-snuggler. I will forever wonder what went on in his early life to make him do things like jump down from the couch if I started to sit down on it, etc. Gradually he has caught on that all he has to do is move over if he's on the end by the lamp and I want to read. (I used to have to sit on Bernardykins to make him move over. ) Now Spencer is a good couch-snuggler, though sometimes he won't let me move my hand away from rubbing him in order to turn the page of the book. After a while he goes to sleep, though, and lets me do things like turn pages without his protesting. He still hasn't moved into sleeping with me at night, which makes me sad. I'm beginning to think he never will. Bernard would find Spencer's behavior in that respect quite alien. I am happy to report that I am not eyeless today, as I had feared I might be. It was interesting to watch my right eye (the first bad one) get smaller and smaller and smaller during the night. I would notice it as I got up to go to the bathroom and looked in the bathroom mirror. By the time I got up this morning, it was totally sealed. I started to take a picture of it to show y'all a sealed eye, but I realized that the flash in the mirror would make that not work. Hmm. I should've just aimed the camera at my face and clicked. Anyway, I unsealed the eye with washing and scraping away the , and am thinking it might be over the worst. I'll see what happens today. The left one is still in early-oozing stage. It will be interesting to see whether it follows the full course or whether it doesn't get as bad as the right one did. If it does, and if the right one gets well while the left one is doing its thing, I'll know not to worry -- I will have a precedent to tell me what will happen to the left one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:21:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLLm7w021849 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:21:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021CCBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:00:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:00:44 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGE0ik28763 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:00:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216140039.CRYC7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:00:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF1006.1060100@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:00:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts References: <20031216032850.5754.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031216032850.5754.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Every year, I wish I had more Christmassy guest towels > for the bath. If I were your assistant from Webster, > I would welcome that gift. I thought of things like that because I love special xmasy things of that kind but don't usually buy them myself because, even though they're not major purchases, I tell myself that it's silly to waste money on something to use for a month or less once a year. That's the kind of thing that makes a good gift, imho -- something somebody would enjoy but might not buy for herself. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:26:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLQM7w021879 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:26:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F48A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:05:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:05:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGE5Ik29404 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:05:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021CCDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:05:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312161405.hBGE5Ik29404@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:05:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 07:57:16 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >> That's a fine way to spend an evening even when you >> are well. Snuggling with Jaysie, I must say though, >> is a rather overwhelming experience. > >Yes, it is a fine way to spend an evening. What was especially nice >last night, though, was that my mind wasn't racing around making lists >of things I needed to do the next day, etc. etc. I felt . Re >snuggling, Bernard was always a super-snuggler. Spencer, otoh, came >into my life as a total non-snuggler. I will forever wonder what went >on in his early life to make him do things like jump down from the couch >if I started to sit down on it, etc. Gradually he has caught on that >all he has to do is move over if he's on the end by the lamp and I want >to read. (I used to have to sit on Bernardykins to make him move over. >) Now Spencer is a good couch-snuggler, though sometimes he won't let >me move my hand away from rubbing him in order to turn the page of the >book. After a while he goes to sleep, though, and lets me do things >like turn pages without his protesting. He still hasn't moved into >sleeping with me at night, which makes me sad. I'm beginning to think >he never will. Bernard would find Spencer's behavior in that respect >quite alien. > >I am happy to report that I am not eyeless today, as I had feared I >might be. It was interesting to watch my right eye (the first bad one) >get smaller and smaller and smaller during the night. I would notice it >as I got up to go to the bathroom and looked in the bathroom mirror. By >the time I got up this morning, it was totally sealed. I started to >take a picture of it to show y'all a sealed eye, but I realized that the >flash in the mirror would make that not work. Hmm. I should've just >aimed the camera at my face and clicked. Anyway, I unsealed the eye >with washing and scraping away the , and am thinking it might >be over the worst. I'll see what happens today. The left one is still >in early-oozing stage. It will be interesting to see whether it follows >the full course or whether it doesn't get as bad as the right one did. >If it does, and if the right one gets well while the left one is doing >its thing, I'll know not to worry -- I will have a precedent to tell me >what will happen to the left one. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I applaud your decision to go to the opthalmologist. It's clearly appropriate. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:31:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLVo7w021997 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:31:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F483@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:10:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:10:46 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGEAkk29887 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:10:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216141041.CWPC7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:10:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF1260.2000905@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:10:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > In some small town hospitals, the Drs in town have to share in ER work in > order to gain hospital privileges. So some do it because it keeps the > hospital open, and because it gives them access to its facilities. That's the way it used to work here except that no doctor stayed there. Nurses were there and would call whichever doctor was on call if a doctor was needed. That changed at some point, and now there's an ER doctor there -- I guess around the clock, though I am not intimate enough with the ER to be sure. But the ER doctors are not regular Starkville doctors. Iow, they have no local practice. (I use plural because this man I saw Sunday was not the doctor who was there when my mother died last year. And it was still another back eight or ten years ago when I took my smashed big toe there on a Sunday after having spent Saturday night In Hell. Y'all may remember that story -- of my dropping the log on my bare foot in the carport, breaking the big toe in two places, something like four days before leaving for Paris.) I got curious yesterday about who this doctor was the other day and looked at his name on the medicines, then looked in the telephone book, which is for the whole Golden Triangle area -- Starkville, West Point, Columbus, plus various other tiny towns. He's not in it as a doctor. It's possible he's in it as a , but I couldn't be sure since his name is too ordinary -- something like William Davis, of which there were several in the various Golden Triangle towns. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:33:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLXp7w022013 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:33:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021CCF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:12:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:12:38 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGECck30116 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:12:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216141232.CXLU7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF12D0.9080008@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:12:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312161254.hBGCsLk21582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312161254.hBGCsLk21582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > >>On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> >>>I've posed this before: >>> >>>What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med >>>school? >>>"Doctor" >> >>This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. >>I won't think about doctors the same way again. > > What way did you think of them before? Has Tushar been absent so often lately that people have forgotten Who He Is? I am amused by these responses to his comments. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:35:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLZe7w022043 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:35:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F4A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:14:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:14:36 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGEEZk30234 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:14:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216141430.CYMD7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:14:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF1346.9010003@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:14:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031216132823.47763.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031216132823.47763.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Oh! I stand corrected. I thought Natalie said the > Zithromax made one dizzy. No, it was the pain medicine. But my ears were too stopped up for me to even notice that your posting linked the dizziness to the Zithromax. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:37:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLbF7w022063 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:37:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F498@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:16:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:16:11 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGEGBk30427 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:16:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216141605.CZHJ7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF13A5.3040505@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:16:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312161405.hBGE5Ik29404@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312161405.hBGE5Ik29404@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I applaud your decision to go to the opthalmologist. It's clearly > appropriate. ? There's no need to if the right eye improves today, which I have the feeling it's going to. If it doesn't, then I will go. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 15:50:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFLoa7w022240 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:50:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F4F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:29:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:29:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGETWk32480 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:29:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021CD4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:29:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312161429.hBGETWk32480@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:29:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:12:32 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog >> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >>> >>>>I've posed this before: >>>> >>>>What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med >>>>school? >>>>"Doctor" >>> >>>This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. >>>I won't think about doctors the same way again. >> >> What way did you think of them before? > >Has Tushar been absent so often lately that people have forgotten Who He >Is? I am amused by these responses to his comments. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Natalie, you're spoiling my fun. I was looking forward to some nonsense or other that would put me In My Place clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:11:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMBH7w022529 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:11:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021CE1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 9:50:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:50:11 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGEoBk03522 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:50:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216145006.DAOR13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF1B9E.4070107@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:50:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312161429.hBGETWk32480@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312161429.hBGETWk32480@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Has Tushar been absent so often lately that people have forgotten Who He >>Is? I am amused by these responses to his comments. > > Natalie, you're spoiling my fun. I was looking forward to some nonsense or > other that would put me In My Place That did cross my mind since I was pretty sure you were . Probably not many people are reading this thread, though. Though Words-L subject-headers are notoriously unreliable, I have been watching them the past couple of days, making sure that my snot and ooze and misery postings are under appropriate headers since I am sure there are many Wordslers who do not care to read about these matters. Iow, I am assuming that many people are hitting delete before reading the postings in this thread -- which makes very good sense. As we've discussed before, that's why God created the delete key, and that's one of the great things about Words-L. We can involve ourselves in snot discussions, or we can ignore them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:21:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMLI7w022690 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:21:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F65B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:00:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:00:14 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGF0Ek05069 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:00:14 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:00:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798E@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:00:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Rita Chapman [mailto:rouvalis@SWBELL.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:20 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > > You never know. I used to get tired of Spring. Once late > Spring came > > along, people got Spring Fever and hit the water with their > boats. Then > > boredom set in and they started drinking. And if you think > drinking & > > driving is bad...think about the fact there are no roads > out on the water. > > Kosciusko county's population would double in the Summer > when the "lakers" > > came in. > > > Drinking while boating* is absolutely necessary. Take note, > festers! > > *Kev doesn't drink, and he drives the boat. One of our runs involved a guy who was involved in a "boat + boat + lots of alcohol = acccident" situation who managed to tread water for forty-five minutes wearing a sweater, jeans, and hiking boots. It turned out later he had a broken arm. One of my partners decided to try this out at the Y after hours and didn't want everyone to try it at once as we had a good idea as to what would happen. Once the boots fill with water and the clothing is soaked, it's very difficult to tread at all - meaning out came the hook to rescue whomever sank to the bottom so someone else could try. One of the few feats I've seen beyond that sort of thing was within the previous five years or so when a Naval officer fell overboard in the Indian Ocean and no one noticed. It wasn't until they did a headcount later he turned up missing. Someone (natives?) else happened across him and provided the rescue. He had been in the water for over fifty hours. With all of the training & testing I did, I can't believe they show people movies|tv just jumping into the water with all of their clothes on for a rescue. You might as well peel off the pants & shoes - even in the Winter. At least you'd have something dry to put back on. Water's coefficent of heat is four times that of air; i.e., water is capable withdrawing four times as much heat as the same quantity as air. That's why in the cold rule #1 is to "always stay dry". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMNI7w022724 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:23:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021CE6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:02:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:02:14 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGF2Ek05272 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:02:14 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B7798F@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:02:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Rita Chapman [mailto:rouvalis@SWBELL.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:47 PM > I can't think of anything clever this year for the itty > bitty gifts I give to some of the people I work with. Agnes > did Christmas socks, which is an adorable idea since quite a > few of us sport sandals and socks on occasion (tomorrow > might be the only day warm enough to wear mine with my new > red cork sandals that I bought because they were made in > Greece). And I need a little something for my student > assistant from Webster University who has been chasing down > students and grading papers for me a couple days a week. A box of condoms? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:31:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMVA7w022975 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:31:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F6A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:10:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:10:05 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFA5k06834 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:10:05 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:10:00 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77990@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:09:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:44 PM > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:59:28PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > It would not be unusual to line up all of the doctors for a > hospital, ask > > them how to pronounce it and go through this (I'm not joking): > > I'd never suspect you were joking! > > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#1: "it's tin-eye-tus" > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#2: "tin-eh-tus" > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#3: "it's tin-eye-tus" > > ... > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#n: "tin-eh-tus" > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#n+1: "it's tin-eye-tus" > > Let me guess--n is an even number. It's not a math quiz so you can put your shoes back on. What I'm pointing out is you could ask any number of docs at random and they will say either of them; i.e., they have a specific pronounciation, but doctors as a group do not; this, I find interesting. > > I don't know the fundamental reason for this but it's > interesting (I think I > > can rule out geography, at least, informally). I've not > tried this with > > nurses but I wouldn't be surprised if it would be the same. > > How so? Nurses didn't pass at the bottom of the class in med school. > For assume that they did; then you'd be calling them "doctor". The > contradiction in the syllogism reduces to an absurdity, thus > completing the demonstration. Once again, you're reading too deeply into it. As far as nurses go, I still prefer having them walk up if I was the first one at an accident scene (and probably would today) than a physician. Nurses see things daily a doctor might have seen once (if they were lucky) during a quick rotation as a resident. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:32:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMWK7w023013 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:32:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F6A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:11:15 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFBFk06964 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:11:15 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:11:10 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77991@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: The boat Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:11:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Betty [mailto:bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:16 PM > At 07:19 PM 12/15/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > > Drinking while boating* is absolutely necessary. Take note, > >festers! > > How many people can the boat hold? When the lakers are in town, the rule of thumb is "One more than it currently holds." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:42:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMgU7w023161 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:42:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F6EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:21:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:21:25 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFLOk08161 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:21:24 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77992@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:21:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:11 PM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > They're off-hours medical offices which aren't ERs but have > a staff to deal > > with lesser problems. The better ones keep a doctor > on-staff 7x24 in order > > to attract people to them. I don't have an idea as to how > large a city > > would be to have these things - I don't see them much in > the daytime - they > > show up because of the neon lights at night. > > Starkville isn't awash in them. But I do like the idea. The other way they help is for people who have low|no insurance coverage. If you go to the ER, you're helping to pay for all aspects of the facility. For one of the express services, you could be [paying for all aspects] as well but there are fewer things to have to pay for. I remember when we'd get called to a section of town which was lower on the income totem pole. Someone would need help[1] but not be able to pay for all of it or the ER + anything else, so they'd call for an ambulance, get stabilized, then determine whether they wanted to go to the ER, then decide whether they wanted to be admitted or not. Each of those levels cost less than the entire ball of yarn so they were able to make choices along the way. With a single hospital, it wasn't like here in Indy where there are facilities for those who cannot pay or who cannot afford to pay all of it, so there's a sliding scale. All of the other hospitals are required to admit them to the ER, stabilize them, then determine whether they have [financial] coverage or not. If not, they are then transferred to one of the hospitals which can then take care of them. [1] This is how I got to deliver two of the three babies before I graduated from high school. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 16:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFMn67w023289 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:49:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F717@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:28:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:28:01 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFRvk08998 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:28:01 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77993@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Saddam coverage Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:27:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:41 AM > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:31:17PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > > > > You sound indignant. > > > > > > And that just makes you mad! > > > > Sweet, perspicacious Hog. I type three words, and he > > knows my mind. Or maybe he knows my mind because he's > > read my posts. Pray continue. Why should I be mad? > > Oh, my mind must have been jarling back to the glory > days of words-l ... The golden age of stupid ambiguous > insinuation as a tool to repress self-doubt and boost > self-esteem. You mean I missed it? Damn. Wait a minute. I left mid '92 and don't remember seeing you here then. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:01:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFN1E7w023517 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:01:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F78D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:40:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:40:09 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFe9k10879 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:40:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216154004.GFMR29783.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:40:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF2753.80009@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:40:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: OCH Has Two ER Doctors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It occurred to me that I might find scoop on the ER doctor situation by going to the hospital's webpage. And I did. There are two, one of whom gave me a WLM since he went to a med school. He's not the one I saw, though. I saw the one who is not board certified. Although I realize that many good doctors practice forever without bothering to get board certified, it still gives me pause. (Also, I realize that, unless the rules have changed, one cannot take the tests for board certification until after practicing for several years, so maybe this person hasn't had the opportunity yet -- is too young -- i.e., young in the profession.) Anyway, mine was the second of these two -- Bill Davis: http://www.och.org/staff/internal.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:02:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFN2u7w023555 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:02:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F7AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:41:51 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFfok11433 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:41:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216154145.GGQV29783.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF27B9.60907@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:41:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors References: <3FDF2753.80009@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDF2753.80009@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > gave me a WLM since he went to a med school. He's not the Correction: He did his internship and residency at a Masonic hospital. Went to a med school that sounds , as in not a well-known private one and not a state one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNI87w023855 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:18:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:54:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:54:40 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFsek13651 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:54:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216155435.FYLE18914.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF2ABA.5030802@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:54:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors References: <3FDF2753.80009@maynor.net> <3FDF27B9.60907@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FDF27B9.60907@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm having fun browsing the other stuff on the OCH website, like info on all the doctors affiliated with it. In doing so, I realize that my ophthalmologist didn't do his residency with my RRB. George Walker did his in Memphis, my RRB in Birmingham. I also noticed that the ENT from Columbus lists a Starkville office address, but then I remembered that he does practice in Starkville one day a week. He's in Columbus the rest of the time. His father, by the way, was one of the old EENT doctors, before eyes became detached from ENT. And then he committed suicide, though I don't think it was because of the detachment of eyes from ENT. I think maybe he had retired by then. I remember his suicide because one of his sons was a lecturer in our department at the time. He had an odd combination of degrees -- BA English, MA Linguistics, PhD Communication. That's not the oddest of combinations, of course, but the odd thing was that his main interest was in Computer Science. They moved here because his wife, who has a PhD in CS, got a job in the CS department, and he became a Lecturer in our department. (Actually, I think we called them part-time, temporary instructors back then, not lecturers, though they were usually full-time and it was the same position that we now call lecturer.) He later got a job in the Computing Center and ultimately ended up teaching in the CS Department. His father was named Juicy, which always struck me as an interesting name. (I knew a good bit about the family because a colleague and good friend of mine was a native of Columbus and talked about Columbus families quite often.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNI87w023857 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:18:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F81C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:51 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFupk14066 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216155646.FZVI18914.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF2B3D.1010506@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:56:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216104504.00b2f1a8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216104504.00b2f1a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> But the ER doctors are not regular >> Starkville doctors. Iow, they have no local practice. > > How could they have a local practice when they spend all their time working > the ER? There is such a specialty in medicine as Emergency > Medicine. Their whole job is working the ER. What I wrote above was, iirc, in response to what Clo said about small towns sometimes having the regular doctors taking shifts in the ER. Or maybe it was in response to something said about this ER person's "office." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNI87w023854 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:18:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F7C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:47:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:47:02 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFl2k12312 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:47:02 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-125.gwi.net [216.195.154.125]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBGFl057063891 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:47:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216104504.00b2f1a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:47:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FDF1260.2000905@maynor.net> References: <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312160459.hBG4xCk30384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But the ER doctors are not regular >Starkville doctors. Iow, they have no local practice. How could they have a local practice when they spend all their time working the ER? There is such a specialty in medicine as Emergency Medicine. Their whole job is working the ER. >I got curious yesterday about who this doctor was the other day and >looked at his name on the medicines, then looked in the telephone book, >which is for the whole Golden Triangle area -- Starkville, West Point, >Columbus, plus various other tiny towns. He's not in it as a doctor. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) There would be no need to have his name in the yellow pages because one doesn't call him for an appointment. He is merely part of the hospital staff. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNI87w023856 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:18:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F836@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:49 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGFunk14046 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-125.gwi.net [216.195.154.125]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBGFufGn016193 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:58 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Christmas cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just addressed twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending seven of the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:21:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNLe7w023901 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:21:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F852@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:28 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBGG0Rk14695 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:27 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:17 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Christmas cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBFNLe7w023901 I haven't sent christmas cards in at least 10 years. I think it is a dying custom - at least as far as mass mailing goes. My parents still send and receive lots of them and I always enjoy looking through the stack to see who I remember of their long-term friends. BrP >>> bonniev@GWI.NET 12/16/03 10:56AM >>> Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just addressed twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending seven of the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:21:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNLe7w023902 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:21:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021D033@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:34 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGG0Uk14699 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:30 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37241430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF2C1A.6090802@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:00:26 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas cards References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just > addressed > twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending > seven of > the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. > I just sent out a few (maybe sixteen or seventeen) last week. They just went to family and close friends and only because I was on vacation and had sufficient leisure time to write them. Most years I do not send any. Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:25:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNPP7w023964 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:25:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F88F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:04:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:04:20 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGG4Kk16204 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:04:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216160413.GEFN18914.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:04:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF2CFE.7040004@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:04:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas cards References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just addressed > twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending seven of > the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. Yes, I hurriedly did mine late last week. I used to write long letters in them (individual letters, I mean, not form letters -- though some of those individual letters were close to identical), but those letters have gotten shorter and shorter through the years and were in many cases this year just "I hope you have a great Christmas and a perfect 2004" or "I loved seeing you at the party in Jackson last summer" or "I'm really going to get to Munich for another visit one of these days" or "I'm going to send you a long e-mail note soon." Kind of makes me wonder whether I should bother sending them at all. I have been paring the list every year and send far fewer now than I used to. I sent maybe 40-50 this year. Didn't count since I didn't need to order xmas cards this year -- haven't in several years. I've been getting so many free ones (that I like -- I throw them away if I don't like them) from charitable causes in recent years that I've got a huge stockpile of them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:31:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNV07w024056 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:31:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7F8AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:09:55 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGG9tk17236 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:09:55 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77996@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: OCH Has Two ER Doctors Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:09:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:42 AM > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > gave me a WLM since he went to a med school. > He's not the > > Correction: He did his internship and residency at a Masonic > hospital. > Went to a med school that sounds , as in not a > well-known private one and not a state one. Offshore? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:32:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNWt7w024081 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:32:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F8C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:11:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:11:50 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGGBok17598 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:11:50 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:11:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77997@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:11:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: bonniev [mailto:bonniev@GWI.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:47 AM > >But the ER doctors are not regular > >Starkville doctors. Iow, they have no local practice. > > How could they have a local practice when they spend all > their time working > the ER? There is such a specialty in medicine as Emergency > Medicine. Their whole job is working the ER. I almost went into medicine - traumatic surgery, actually. It was the 23rd board specialty, created in my senior year of high school. I found out I didn't have the patience (opportunity for paronomasia there, but I'll pass on it) for sitting through the classes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:36:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNa57w024150 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:36:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A7F8EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:15:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:15:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGGF0k18416 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:15:00 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77998@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: OCH Has Two ER Doctors Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:14:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:55 AM > because one of his sons was a lecturer in our department at the time. > He had an odd combination of degrees -- BA English, MA > Linguistics, PhD > Communication. That's not the oddest of combinations, of course, but > the odd thing was that his main interest was in Computer > Science. They There's a guy named Don|Doc Brown who has an MD but has never used it for anything. He's head of Interactive Intelligence, the only publicly traded software firm in Indiana. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:43:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNhl7w024239 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:43:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021D0C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:22:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:22:38 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGGMWk19188 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:22:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216162227.GOHS18914.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF3143.7080204@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:22:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77996@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77996@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: >> Went to a med school that sounds , as in not a >>well-known private one and not a state one. > > Offshore? I don't remember whether it identified its geographical location. Its name was something like Rush Medical School. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 17:47:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBFNlL7w024307 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:47:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A7F944@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:26:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:26:16 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGGQDk20069 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:26:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.152.59]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031216162608.GQDZ18914.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FDF3217.8050804@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:25:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77998@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77998@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > There's a guy named Don|Doc Brown who has an MD but has never used it for > anything. He's head of Interactive Intelligence, the only publicly traded > software firm in Indiana. Kay Scarpetta never practiced medicine, though she obviously uses her MD in her work -- or her previous work. I'm chomping at the bits for that new book y'all were talking about to be available in paperback. (It's not, btw, just that I'm too cheap to buy hardbacks. It's that I like to carry books of that kind around -- to read on airplanes or in waiting rooms or whatever. They need to fit in my purse.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 18:48:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG0mg7w025441 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:48:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A7FBED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:27:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:27:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGHRak03042 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:27:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBGHRZrm008582 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:27:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:28:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <305254185.20031216112809@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <20031216132823.47763.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031216132823.47763.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> > Yes, you will be dizzy; but if you need it to >> >> sleep tonight, don't hesitate >> >> > to take it then! >> >> >> >> That's what I was thinking -- that it would be a >> >> good thing to take >> >> before going to bed. >> > >> > >> >Everyone's different, of course, but I have taken >> >Zithromax on three occasions, and never been dizzy >> >beyond what is normal for me.:-] >> > >> > >> >> I guess! ;) >> >> This discussion point was not abt Zithromax, but abt >> a pain medication >> that listed dizziness as a side-effect. > Oh! I stand corrected. I thought Natalie said the > Zithromax made one dizzy. chopped liver! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 19:31:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG1Ux7w026216 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:30:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021D45D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:09:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:09:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GPuXFV565qLdHamEZxpuRy3NBLUiCZwL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGI9rM10593 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:09:53 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482942FE32 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D7023831 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:09:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031216074517.GB62201@words-l.org> References: <1581564956.20031215222420@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:09:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Childproofing Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:45 PM -0800 12/15/03, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:04:23PM -0800, Bookrat wrote: >> No matter what the parents do, by the time the child is ten she will >> 0wnzzor that machine. Computer security is better understood as a >> process of buying time than a process of creating safety. > >I see that "computer security" is the new hip slang for "windows >security". Where did it originate? Oh, yeah, right. Like no one could H4xX0r your Solaris beasties, with a little time and patience. Riiiiight. Ken Miller Kevin Mitnick School of Systems Analysis From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 21:51:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG3po7w028335 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:51:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A801FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:30:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:30:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGKUid01926 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:30:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021D945@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:30:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200312162030.hBGKUid01926@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:30:43 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Christmas cards To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:56:58 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just addressed >twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending seven of >the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. > > >bonnie As a young wife, I purchased a number of Christmas cards, determined to be a good correspondent. In moving the desk upstairs this year, I discovered the still-unused stack, and decided that now would be a good time to send them out, since this would also let me update the address book. I know lots of emails, but very few streets and zipcodes. If anyone wishes to receive an Xmas postcard from me, they can drop me a private line w/ their snailmail. It will be a good warmup for my writing hand. In addition to the sentiment, of course! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 22:47:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG4lN7w029173 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:47:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A803C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:26:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:26:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGLQFd09745 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:26:15 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBGLQErm022471 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:26:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:26:48 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <288562773.20031216152648@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Austin beat Boston! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2003/12/15/daily13.html?f=et51 "Austin places second among world's 'knowledge' regions Austin ranks second among the world's top knowledge-based economic regions, according to the 2003 World Knowledge Competitive Index. The survey of 125 regions around the world defines knowledge competitiveness as an area's ability to create new ideas, processes and products and translate them into economic value and wealth. The top 14 regions are in the United States. San Francisco topped the list, followed by Austin; Boston; Rochester, N.Y.; Minneapolis; Denver; Hartford, Conn.; Raleigh-Durham, N.C.; Grand Rapids, Mich.; and San Diego. At No. 15, Tokyo is the first region outside the United States." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 22:53:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG4qw7w029234 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:53:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A803F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:31:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:31:49 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGLVnd10436 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:31:49 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121621313601500k126te>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:31:37 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125738.039a8d78@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:31:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <20031213223917.91136.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213171638.00bc35e0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber writes, >I know her loss is felt keenly. With Alyce, it's her presence that's felt keenly. I'm back from Marconi Center. We had a great time. Serendipitously, we discovered Donna Sheehan, who lives right nearby, and she talked to the group for a while. Donna and her partner Paul are the folks who started the photos of lots of naked people spelling out "PEACE" or making peace symbols with their bodies on beaches or grassy hills <http://baringwitness.org/>. Interestingly, she's not an exhibitionist; she said she's the type who wears a bathrobe around the house instead of ambling about nude. She's over 70, but was as spunky and optimistic as a 23-year old. It was a real treat. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 22:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG4vu7w029314 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:57:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A803EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:36:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:36:48 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGLamd10803 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:36:48 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031216213642014000mkdoe>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:36:42 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:39:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >Actually, I think it is a circle with an R in it. Didacticism r00lz! I'm compelled to expand your explanation by quoting 15 USC 1111: "... the words 'Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office' or 'Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.' or the letter R enclosed within a circle...." I believe the word forms could be properly represented in Pine. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 22:59:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG4xI7w029328 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:59:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8040C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:38:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:38:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGLcBd11001 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:38:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBGLb5KX016802 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:37:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:38:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <846834504.20031216153841@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125738.039a8d78@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031213171638.00bc35e0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125738.039a8d78@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > We had a great time. Serendipitously, we discovered Donna Sheehan, > who lives right nearby, and she talked to the group for a while. Cool! I love these pages, and the idea of it. > She's over 70, but was as spunky and optimistic as a 23-year old. It was a > real treat. :) I hope I am that optimistic when I am that age. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:05:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG55k7w029416 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:05:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8040B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:44:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:44:38 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGLicd11571 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:44:38 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003121621443201200lj7m5e>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:44:33 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216123825.02afa3f8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:44:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <3FD93430.8010106@maynor.net> References: <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD8D6E4.9000309@maynor.net> <882709546.1071175836@TWild.uri.edu> <3FD92401.9050704@maynor.net> <886232796.1071179359@TWild.uri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >No, I don't think I would want to wear gloves to bed, Crisco-laden or >otherwise. When I was a kid in bone-dry Reno in the winter, there were times my mom smeared lotion (probably A&D) on my cracked hands and put me to bed with cotton gloves. I didn't like it, but it worked. >At times I've thought that olive oil might help some, though. I like peanut or avocado oil, and have used them happily as a body moisturizer. The trick is to put it on right after toweling dry from the shower. The oily feeling soaks in pretty quickly. Right now I'm using Aveeno lotion after showers and hand-washings. Pete dry skin, and eczema if I let my skin get too compromised From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:30:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5Uk7w029864 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:30:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021DCB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f65.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGM9cd14444 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:09:32 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.118 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:09:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.118] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:09:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2003 22:09:32.0291 (UTC) FILETIME=[48539D30:01C3C421] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is she still talking about snot, crud and other unmentionables? _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:30:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5Ux7w029868 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:30:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8056A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:09:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:09:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGLxpd13063 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:59:51 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBGLwVKo012809 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:58:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:59:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >I'm compelled to expand your explanation by quoting 15 USC 1111: "... the >words 'Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office' or 'Reg. U.S. Pat. & >Tm. Off.' or the letter R enclosed within a circle...." How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:35:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5ZP7w029940 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:35:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A80583@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGMEHd15110 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021DCA2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200312162214.hBGMEHd15110@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:16 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:09:32 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Is she still talking about snot, crud and other unmentionables? > Yes, and I'm still egging her on! But she confided that she's been careful to restrict it to a single subject header, to make it easier to hit the "D" key appropriately. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:35:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5ZW7w029943 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:35:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A80569@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGMEOd15135 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:24 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A2@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Paraffin Thingies Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:45 PM > Natalie Maynor writes, > > >No, I don't think I would want to wear gloves to bed, Crisco-laden or > >otherwise. > > When I was a kid in bone-dry Reno in the winter, there were > times my mom > smeared lotion (probably A&D) on my cracked hands and put me > to bed with > cotton gloves. I didn't like it, but it worked. > > >At times I've thought that olive oil might help some, though. > > I like peanut or avocado oil, and have used them happily as a body > moisturizer. The trick is to put it on right after toweling > dry from the > shower. The oily feeling soaks in pretty quickly. > > Right now I'm using Aveeno lotion after showers and hand-washings. I eventually tried lanolin on both my hands and my feet (with gloves & old socks) knowing what lanolin did to treat strawberries picked up on the pitch (field) playing soccer in college. No lanolin = lots of pain. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:36:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5aD7w029963 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:36:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8057F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:15:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:15:04 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGMF4d15255 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:15:04 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:59 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A3@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:14:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Rashmi Murthy [mailto:rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:10 PM > Is she still talking about snot, crud and other unmentionables? Only when asked. There is another way to get crusty eyes (at least that I've heard of) and that's to eat too much sugar. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:51:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5pb7w030131 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:51:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021DCF6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:30:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166024 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:30:29 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBGMUTd16535 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:30:29 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:30:24 PST Message-ID: <20031216223024.56653.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:30:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Is she still talking about snot, crud and other > unmentionables? Just don't read the posts that ask how she's feeling. To reassure you, though, it appear she's going to make it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 15 23:53:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG5r07w030146 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:53:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A805B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:31:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:31:52 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBGMVqd16635 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:31:52 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:31:46 PST Message-ID: <20031216223146.61987.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A3@EXCHSRVR1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Phil Paxton wrote: > There is another way to get crusty eyes (at least > that I've heard of) and > that's to eat too much sugar. So, if you WANT crusty eyes... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 01:00:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG70Z7w031458 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:00:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A80764@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGNdRd24012 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:39:27 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003121623392001400d323he>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:39:20 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216153810.03fbc5c8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:40:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany writes, >How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily >postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! Personally, I'm just glad that I'm not the lawyer who told someone to be careful because it's a registered mark, or that (R) wasn't good enough. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 01:04:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG74r7w031525 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:04:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8077C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:43:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:43:45 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGNhid24481 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:43:44 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBGNhgnM004259 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:43:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDF985A.9040203@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:42:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The boat References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77987@EXCHSRVR1> <4.2.2.20031215181451.00a33870@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 07:19 PM 12/15/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Drinking while boating* is absolutely necessary. Take note, >> festers! > > > How many people can the boat hold? Coast Guard sez 8. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 01:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG7D47w031656 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 01:13:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8079C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:51:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:51:56 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBGNptd25183 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:51:55 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBGNpFcM007256 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:51:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FDF9A45.8050905@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:50:29 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas cards References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just addressed > twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending seven of > the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. I will next week. I'm pretty late this year -- normally I try to be coordinated enough to do them over Thanksgiving, but I didn't quite make it this year. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 03:26:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG9Ql7w000961 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:26:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A808E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:05:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:05:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f66.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH25bd01869 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:05:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:05:32 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.118 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:05:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.118] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Christmas cards Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:05:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2003 02:05:32.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[40623750:01C3C442] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I just addressed >twenty of them. I wonder if it's a dying custom. We are sending seven of >the twenty to the Sucky South. Eight if Chevy Chase, Maryland counts. I send a few every year. I hope to get mine out by the end of the week. _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 03:31:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG9Vk7w001043 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:31:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021E015@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 173918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f15.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH2Aad02106 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:10:31 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.118 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:10:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.118] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:10:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2003 02:10:31.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[F271B650:01C3C442] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Is she still talking about snot, crud and other unmentionables? >Yes, and I'm still egging her on! But she confided that she's been careful >to restrict it to a single subject header, to make it easier to hit the >"D" key appropriately. Delete schmelete. I read the archives on ra and there's no deleting select posts there. As an old-time wordslur I've perfected a system to read Natalie's posts efficiently - necessary when trying to follow multiple threads while reading as few posts as possible. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ It’s our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 03:41:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG9fO7w001147 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:41:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A80930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:20:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:20:14 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBH2KDd02748 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:20:13 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:20:06 PST Message-ID: <20031217022006.67996.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:20:06 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216153810.03fbc5c8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Personally, I'm just glad that I'm not the lawyer > who told someone to be > careful because it's a registered mark, or that (R) > wasn't good enough. :) :-] :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 03:41:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG9fh7w001151 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:41:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8092A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:20:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:20:33 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH2KXd02760 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:20:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBH2KW1t004814 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:20:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FDFBD19.9050406@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:19:05 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts References: <3FDE6406.1060502@swbell.net> <3FDE7914.4030406@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > How about food items? Or if you'd rather not do food, how about > Christmas towels (as in small towels -- kitchen or hand towels) or some > such? I got my assistant a little wooden ornament and some chocolate (as for Phil's suggestion -- that was thoroughly disgusting, and I was brought up better than that, and I certainly hope you were, too). I had no idea people liked those little finger tip towels so much. I bought some for everybody except the copy center guy, who I bought rat food and chocolate for. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 03:46:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG9kf7w001223 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:46:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021E081@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:25:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:24:42 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBH2Ogd03291 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:24:42 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:24:37 PST Message-ID: <20031217022437.78174.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FDFBD19.9050406@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > I had no idea people liked those little > finger tip towels so > much. I bought some for everybody except the copy > center > guy, who I bought rat food and chocolate for. Good job! Is your copy guy a rodent with a sweet tooth, or does he have a ratty friend? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 03:48:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBG9mL7w001253 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:48:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A80946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:27:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:27:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f6.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH2RBd03536 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:27:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:27:06 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.118 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:27:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.118] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Geek Alert Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:27:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2003 02:27:06.0195 (UTC) FILETIME=[43923A30:01C3C445] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the other day. I'm very scared ... _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 04:01:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGA137w001427 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:01:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A80963@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:39:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:39:53 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH2drd04851 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:39:53 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121702394701600ssulbe> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:39:48 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Geek Alert Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm very scared ... As well you should be. Some of my friends write fan fiction based on that series, and I Just Don't Get It. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 04:05:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGA5O7w001492 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:05:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8096F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:44:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:44:15 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBH2iEd05219 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:44:15 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:43:19 PST Message-ID: <20031217024319.54428.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:43:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > As well you should be. > > Some of my friends write fan fiction based on that > series, and I Just Don't > Get It. You have to get into the Hobbitt. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 04:18:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGAIX7w001644 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:18:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021E0BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:23 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH2vNd06553 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:23 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121702571701100i74k3e> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:57:17 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Geek Alert Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031217024319.54428.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You have to get into the Hobbitt. I tried to read it several times when I was a kidlet. It bored me something fierce each time. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 04:21:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGALs7w001692 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:21:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A809A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:00:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:00:41 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH30Zd06860 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:00:35 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-125.gwi.net [216.195.154.125]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBH30W59091410; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:00:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216215522.00b5eac0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:00:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:27 AM 12/17/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the >other day. > >I'm very scared ... Don't be. You will hear all sorts of stuff about how it isn't just like the book and is (a) better or (b) a travesty. In a way, not having read the trilogy, you have no baggage and just can appeciate (or not) the movie for what it is worth. Enjoy. cwv P.S., As a somewhat Tolkien geek, I thought that the Two Towers was not as good as the first installment---too much "invention" in the TT. I would love to see this production group do the Hobbit. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 04:25:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGAPs7w001746 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:25:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A809D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH34id07573 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBH34gW1009294 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:04:43 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBH34fWq009260; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:04:41 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031216190706.00a9ca50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:07:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:27 AM 12/17/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the >other day. > >I'm very scared ... Go. Enjoy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 04:38:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGAc37w001902 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 04:38:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A809CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:16:53 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH3Grd08281 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:16:53 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBH3GrrW005685 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:16:53 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBH3GniN021733 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:16:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:14:44 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, Natalie is pretty quiet tonight. Wonder if her eyes are glued shut and she can't see the screen. Sounds like she has conjunctivitis and should go see the doc. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 05:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGBUC7w002586 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:30:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A80C4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:09:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:09:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH492d14624 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:09:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBH48urm014575 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:09:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:09:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <977273452.20031216220931@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > Well, > Natalie is pretty quiet tonight. Wonder if her eyes are glued shut and > she can't see the screen. Sounds like she has conjunctivitis and should go > see the doc. When I had conjunctivitis, I itched. No discharge, just lots of itching. Are there different symptoms? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 05:56:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGBuW7w003015 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:56:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021E4A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:35:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:35:22 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH4ZMd17978 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:35:22 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBH4ZLrW007463 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:35:21 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBH4ZLiN031467 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:35:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:33:16 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <1324704671.1071617596@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <977273452.20031216220931@WordWrite.com> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <977273452.20031216220931@WordWrite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > When I had conjunctivitis, I itched. No discharge, just lots of > itching. Are there different symptoms? > > Karen I itched (that constant feeling something was in my eye), woke up with eyes glued shut, and when I got them open, they were red. Had to do the drop routine. I believe everyone in my family except Ed has had it at least once. Highly contagious. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 06:00:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGC057w003097 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:00:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A80CF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:38:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:38:54 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBH4csd18251 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:38:54 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:37:14 PST Message-ID: <20031217043714.80352.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <977273452.20031216220931@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > When I had conjunctivitis, I itched. No discharge, > just lots of > itching. Are there different symptoms? Yeah, I had it once, brought on by an experience with early contacts. It was VERY painful, I wound up at the ER the night before I was to start a new job. Misery! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 06:03:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGC3n7w003135 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:03:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A80D0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:42:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 183164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:42:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH4gcd18895 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:42:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBH4ga6X014907 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:42:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:43:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <06472631.20031216224312@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <1324704671.1071617596@TWild.uri.edu> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <977273452.20031216220931@WordWrite.com> <1324704671.1071617596@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > I itched (that constant feeling something was in my eye), woke up with eyes > glued shut, and when I got them open, they were red. Had to do the drop > routine. I believe everyone in my family except Ed has had it at least > once. Highly contagious. Right. I don't remember the eyes glued (but they may have been)--just the itching and redness. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 06:10:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGCAS7w003187 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:10:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A80D2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 183399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:17 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH4nHd19987 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:17 -0500 Received: from MaryDot@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.3d.38b3bb1f (3890) for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:06 -0500 (EST) From: MaryDot@aol.com Message-ID: <3d.38b3bb1f.2d113a41@aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:05 EST Subject: Re: Christmas cards To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes, I'm sending out cards. Seem to be receiving less than usual, and sending out less than usual too. mary From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 08:05:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGE5X7w004725 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:05:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81133@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 1:44:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:44:22 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH6iLd29988 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:44:21 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBH6iHRp029931 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:44:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Home Again Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:45:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBGE5X7w004725 I have returned from my travels. You may be interesting again. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 09:01:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGF1I7w005502 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:01:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81238@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 2:40:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:40:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH7e6d04018 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:40:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBH7e4kF031622 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:40:04 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBH7e3WZ031620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:40:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:40:03 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again Message-ID: <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland: = I have returned from my travels. = = You may be interesting again. = = - D. M. Glad you're home safe. We missed you, and some people forgot where you were. There was lots of Survivor talk and Natalie is sick with nasty gooey drippy stuff and a wicked ear ache and went to the ER on Sunday but still had to wait until Monday morning to get her drugs. The coast guard says Rita's boat will hold 8 people. Her class is getting the flu, and it gives them smelly farts. I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can help you focus. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 09:27:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGFRa7w005682 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:27:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8125A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 2:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:51:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH7pQd04677 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:51:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBH7pKRp003131 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:51:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3c472$b6c53840$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Home Again Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:52:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Glad you're home safe. Thank you. We missed you, and some people forgot > where you were. I was in Phoenix, Peoria, Scottsdale, Paradise Valley and Ahwatukee, Arizona. > There was lots of Survivor talk I can survive without that. and Natalie is > sick with nasty gooey drippy stuff and a wicked ear ache and went > to the ER on Sunday but still had to wait until Monday morning to > get her drugs. So Natalie is on drugs. She and Rush. The coast guard says Rita's boat will hold 8 > people. Her class is getting the flu, and it gives them smelly > farts. I'm so glad you remembered to tell me that. I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can > help you focus. Alas, no. But a quick search was informative. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 09:55:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGFt57w005898 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:55:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81288@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 3:19:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:19:13 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBH8JDd06051 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:19:13 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121708190601500k235ie>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:19:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217001044.02ae0578@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:21:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Home Again In-Reply-To: <000a01c3c472$b6c53840$99cadece@0018079268> References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, > > I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can > > help you focus. > >Alas, no. But a quick search was informative. Knowing to do a search is good enough. I'm still surprised worry beads didn't come up during the discussion. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 14:21:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGKLl7w009918 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:21:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A814A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 7:50:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:50:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHCeWd07779 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:40:32 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBHCdCDG011288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:39:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:40:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216153810.03fbc5c8@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216153810.03fbc5c8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >>How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily >>postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! > >Personally, I'm just glad that I'm not the lawyer who told someone to be >careful because it's a registered mark, or that (R) wasn't good enough. :) Why? (I did not say it was not good enough. Who said that?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 14:21:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGKLl7x009918 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:21:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A814AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 7:53:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:53:54 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHCrsd08533 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:53:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217125349.URCI7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:53:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:53:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > Natalie is pretty quiet tonight. Wonder if her eyes are glued shut and > she can't see the screen. Sounds like she has conjunctivitis and should go > see the doc. My eyes are fine. I think the ear medicine must have zapped the eye problem. But it is still wrestling with the ear problem. My feeling is that coughing is related -- that every time I cough, which is about every minute, the ears get refilled with whatever it is they're filled with. But that is just my gut feeling. I know nothing about ears and throats and stuff. Nor do I know about medicines. I have been fascinated by how so many of you seem intimate with particular medicines. My attitude toward them is that that's why God created doctors and pharmacists. I don't need to clutter my mind with that kind of knowledge. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 14:29:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGKTW7w010034 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:29:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A814BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197355 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:08:18 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHD8Id09428 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:08:18 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBHD8HkF032029 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:08:17 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBHD8GCZ032027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:08:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:08:16 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again Message-ID: <20031217130816.GA31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217001044.02ae0578@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217001044.02ae0578@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski: = Doris Markland writes, = = >> I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can = >> help you focus. = > = >Alas, no. But a quick search was informative. = = Knowing to do a search is good enough. = = I'm still surprised worry beads didn't come up during the discussion. = = Pete That's because Rita was on the manipulatives side of thing and Espen has been out of town. Those would have been my two candidates for bringing them up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 14:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGKVE7w010079 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:31:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A814D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:10:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:10:00 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHDA0d09519 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:10:00 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:10:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:09:53 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Home Again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBGKVE7w010079 We may be - but probably won't. In any case, welcome home. BrP >>> dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM 12/17/03 01:45AM >>> I have returned from my travels. You may be interesting again. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 14:34:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGKY07w010125 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:34:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A814DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:12:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:12:46 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHDCkd09959 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:12:46 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:12:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:12:26 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Home Again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBGKY07w010125 "In the second drawer I keep all my beads. Oh, how I love toplay with beads - all kinds of beads." -King Kaspar explaining what's in his "box" to Amahl BrP >>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 12/17/03 03:21AM >>> Doris Markland writes, > > I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can > > help you focus. > >Alas, no. But a quick search was informative. Knowing to do a search is good enough. I'm still surprised worry beads didn't come up during the discussion. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 14:42:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGKgd7w010235 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:42:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81514@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:21:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:21:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHDLPd11369 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:21:25 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBHDLOkF032077 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:21:24 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBHDLO7q032075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:21:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:21:24 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = throats and stuff. Nor do I know about medicines. I have been = fascinated by how so many of you seem intimate with particular = medicines. My attitude toward them is that that's why God created = doctors and pharmacists. I don't need to clutter my mind with that kind = of knowledge. = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) All I have to say is then, that you have been very lucky. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 15:20:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGLKx7w010878 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:20:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021EBF7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 8:59:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:59:35 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHDxYd16524 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:59:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217135929.SOFZ20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:59:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:59:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = throats and stuff. Nor do I know about medicines. I have been > = fascinated by how so many of you seem intimate with particular > = medicines. My attitude toward them is that that's why God created > = doctors and pharmacists. I don't need to clutter my mind with that kind > = of knowledge. > = -- > = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > All I have to say is then, that you have been very lucky. Why lucky? I have had very, very few prescription medications in my life. I guess that's lucky. That's why I was fascinated by the familiarity of various Wordslers with various medicines and with Phil's(?) comment about people asking doctors for certain kinds of medicines, etc. I wouldn't have the slightest idea what kind of medicine to ask for. I've heard terms like "antibiotic" all of my life, but I have no idea what an antibiotic actually is, nor do I have any memory of ever having taken one before. I remember occasional penicillin shots in childhood. Is that an antibiotic? I have not had occasion in adulthood to go to a doctor because of . I've had prescriptions for things like birth-control pills, some kind of salve after having little skin cancers zapped, glaucoma-preventive eyedrops, and Fosamax. That's it for my prescription life. I also don't know ingredients in over-the-counter medicines. With a stopped-up nose, a term like "decongestant" strikes me as clearly appropriate, but if there are more specialized terms, I don't know what they are -- things like antihistimine (which, like antibiotic, is a term I've heard forever but don't know what is). So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors and pharmacists spend years acquiring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 15:33:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGLX77w011053 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:33:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81623@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:11:53 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHEBnd18118 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:11:53 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:11:44 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A5@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:11:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Lynne Weber [mailto:lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:32 PM > --- Phil Paxton wrote: > > There is another way to get crusty eyes (at least > > that I've heard of) and > > that's to eat too much sugar. > > So, if you WANT crusty eyes... or as a meter: if your kids are waking up with crusty eyes and they haven't been with you, you likely know what they've been eating. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 15:47:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGLlv7w011237 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:47:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8169A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:26:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:26:42 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHEQgd20854 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:26:42 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:26:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A6@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Itty Bitty Christmas Gifts Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:26:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Rita Chapman [mailto:rouvalis@SWBELL.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:19 PM > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Rita Chapman wrote: > > > How about food items? Or if you'd rather not do food, how about > > Christmas towels (as in small towels -- kitchen or hand > towels) or some > > such? > > I got my assistant a little wooden ornament and some > chocolate (as for Phil's suggestion -- that was thoroughly > disgusting, and I was brought up better than that, and I > certainly hope you were, too). You fed me the straight material, I just wrote the punch line. Brought up? I was brought up by wolves. Certainly that was no worse than what Letterman's Top Ten was last night - I don't watch him but they repeat the top ten every morning on the radio here. "The Top Ten Things We've Learned From Saddam's Hidden Papers": "Saddam has already applied for and received his New York City taxi license." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 15:52:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGLq17w011271 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:52:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A816AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:30:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:30:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHEUld21741 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:30:47 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBHEUirm006549 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:30:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:31:23 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12116265.20031217083123@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? That's what I would think she meant. > I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be > expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors > and pharmacists spend years acquiring. The point is that many of us who are not as lucky as you have spent years acquiring our knowledge of particular medicines. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 15:59:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGLxE7w011426 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:59:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021ECB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:37:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:37:59 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHEbsd23130 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:37:58 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:37:48 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A7@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Geek Alert Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:37:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: clyde w. voigtlander [mailto:cwv@GWI.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:00 PM > P.S., As a somewhat Tolkien geek, I thought that the Two > Towers was not as > good as the first installment---too much "invention" in the > TT. I would > love to see this production group do the Hobbit. The crew (directorial & production) felt like The Two Towers did ramble on too long except for the diehard fans but that anyone should be okay watching this movie. A number of early, reasonable[1] critics have said it might have the potential to be nominated for Uncle Oscars beyond the usual "Best Special Effects", "Best Costumes", "Best Tchotchke at a Fast Food Restaurant", etc. [1] Aside from the janitorial crew contributions for movies: "Time says, 'best movie of the millenium!'" and it may have been written by the custodial crew but is still attributed to Time simply because they work there albeit they aren't the actual critics. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:01:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGM1f7w011534 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:01:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81703@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:40:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:40:27 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHEeHd23593 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:40:17 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:40:12 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A8@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:40:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:54 AM > that coughing is related -- that every time I cough, which is about > every minute, the ears get refilled with whatever it is they're filled > with. But that is just my gut feeling. I know nothing about ears and Wait until you sneeze. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:20:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMKO7w011759 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:20:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81772@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 9:59:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 204328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:59:10 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHEx9d26982 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:59:09 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:01:20 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2SNPK; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:01:17 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217155751.02852958@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:58:39 +0100 Subject: Re: Home Again In-Reply-To: <20031217130816.GA31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217001044.02ae0578@mail.istori.com> <20031217130816.GA31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:08 17.12.2003 +0100 skrev steph: >Peter Kaminski: >= Doris Markland writes, >= >= >> I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can >= >> help you focus. >= > >= >Alas, no. But a quick search was informative. >= >= Knowing to do a search is good enough. >= >= I'm still surprised worry beads didn't come up during the discussion. >= >= Pete > >That's because Rita was on the manipulatives side of thing and >Espen has been out of town. Those would have been my two >candidates for bringing them up. Komboloi? Have I missed a discussion of them? I always carry mine in my pocket. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:31:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMV27w011920 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:31:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8183B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:09:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:09:48 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHF9ld31211 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:09:48 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:09:41 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A9@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:09:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:59 AM > Why lucky? I have had very, very few prescription medications in my > life. I guess that's lucky. That's why I was fascinated by the > familiarity of various Wordslers with various medicines and with > Phil's(?) comment about people asking doctors for certain kinds of > medicines, etc. I wouldn't have the slightest idea what kind of > medicine to ask for. I've heard terms like "antibiotic" all > of my life, > but I have no idea what an antibiotic actually is, nor do I have any > memory of ever having taken one before. I remember occasional > penicillin shots in childhood. Is that an antibiotic? I have not had penicillin is an antibiotic. a rough definition of an antibiotic is something which will kill or severely prevent the growth of bacteria. penecillin was the first (remember the moldy bread?). Unfortunately, research medicine must constantly look for new ones because people abuse the use of current ones, making existing strains of bacteria impervious to any known antibiotics. One of the "fun" things people who have AIDS/HIV get is tuberculosis[1,2]. Generally, the tuberculosis occurs with jail inmates the most[3,4]. Today, many medical folks believe tuberculosis is immune to nearly all known strains of antibiotics; i.e., if you were to get tuberculosis, regardless of the means, it's not known whether they could save you. As I've mentioned in other messages, one of the worst things people can do is buy [and use] all of the fancy-schmancy "antibacterial (soap; laundry detergent; dental floss; dishwashing soap; yeah, I'm getting a little carried away, but it's for a reason - the only time you really need "antibacterial " is when you really need it - giving an injection - medicine in general. Trying to kill every bug which comes along only creates fewer, but stronger bugs. And those bugs become stronger and stronger to the point of becoming more impervious to the same "antibacterial " you've been using. So six months down the road, the "antibacterial " you've been using has no effect and you're placing your bets on something which has no potency but you've managed to create gobs of superbugs. The other way you can contribute to society's march towards reducing the efficacy of known antibiotics is when you have a prescription for any antibiotics. If the directions say, "Take until empty." they mean, "Take until empty." Unfortunately, people may have forty tablets, feel better after twenty, and stop[5]. Your body has not killed all of the bugs, just enough for you to feel better. The remaining bugs now have the time & other resources to get stronger and become superbugs just as I described above. I mentioned the other day [that] doctors are told [by hospitals] which drugs to use and which not to. A lot of brand-new antibiotics are on the "do not use unless all else fails." Otherwise, someone presents symptoms which could be addressed by an existing antibiotic and they've got a new one to play with[6] so they whip out their pen|pencil and away they go ("you know, we've got this *new* antibiotic and I think it'll do the trick for you!" - making you feel special). If that antibiotic is abused by patients like the others (antibiotics), suddenly a brand new antibiotic is shot to h%ll weeks after it's on the market because a doctor couldn't resist writing a script for a patient who wouldn't follow directions and a script for an older antibiotic. And the person who might have been saved by that medication could have been you (or someone you love & care for) but it's now impervious to that antibiotic. As far as this: > occasion in adulthood to go to a doctor because of . I've had > prescriptions for things like birth-control pills, some kind of salve Doctors may (or may not) mention this, but it's probably good idea for anyone who is on birth control to ask about that and antibiotics. I don't keep abreast of the cutting edge so I don't know if there's still an interaction. At one time, it wasn't good to take both - the antibiotic would nullify the pills and one might end up with a special surprise as they healed. [1] "white death" or "consumption", as it was known in the late 1800s - early 1900s. [2] my mom had tuberculosis and must have an x-ray every year to prove the shadows on her lungs haven't increased; i.e., showing it's in check. [3] they are generally the least able to pick their sexual partners so AIDS/HIV can be said to be "inflicted" upon many of them. [4] they also have some of the worst medical care so things run rampant in their bodies. [5] If they can't follow directions and are smarter than the Dr., why did they go in the first place? This doesn't detract from when I've said that if you don't get satisfaction from a Dr. to go to another one. If you have a good Dr. and they give you instructions, follow them (the Dr. and the instructions) [6] I'm using "play" in the sense of "Give a boy a hammer and the world looks like a bunch of nails." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:32:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMWN7w011941 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:32:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81860@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:11:09 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFB0d31527 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBHFAxkF032247 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:10:59 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBHFAx4C032245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:10:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:10:59 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again Message-ID: <20031217151059.GA32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217001044.02ae0578@mail.istori.com> <20031217130816.GA31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031217155751.02852958@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217155751.02852958@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >= = >= I'm still surprised worry beads didn't come up during the discussion. = >= = >= Pete = > = >That's because Rita was on the manipulatives side of thing and = >Espen has been out of town. Those would have been my two = >candidates for bringing them up. = = Komboloi? Have I missed a discussion of them? I always carry mine in my pocket. = = Espen No. You weren't around to bring them up. We discussed doing things with your hands to increase your concentration on other things. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:36:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMaM7w011981 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81867@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:15:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:15:05 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFEod31926 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:14:50 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:17:19 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2SNSZ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:17:16 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217161154.0283e2a8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:14:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Feeling better, Espen? In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A9@EXCHSRVR1> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A9@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have just visited my doctor, mainly for a check on my blood pressure but when I was there I mentioned my cold - or my "cold". According to him it was a lung-oriented variant of influenza - which should mean that I am safe now from some of the more heavy variants floating around right now, and which also explains why I felt so bad when I came back from the North - or when I had run the distance between outrigger A and B at terminal 1 in Frankfurt. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:40:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMec7w012030 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:40:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:19:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:19:23 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFJNd00325 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:19:23 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:19:17 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AB@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Espen? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:19:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Espen Ore [mailto:Espen.Ore@NB.NO] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:15 AM > I have just visited my doctor, mainly for a check on my blood > pressure but when I was there I mentioned my cold - or my Do you suffer from the "white coat syndrome" when it comes to blood pressure? Some people have a higher BP when they are in a doctor's office (hence the reference to "white coat") than if they were at home, work, etc. It's actually quite interesting to see how much of a difference there is. > "cold". According to him it was a lung-oriented variant of > influenza - which should mean that I am safe now from some of > the more heavy variants floating around right now, and which > also explains why I felt so bad when I came back from the > North - or when I had run the distance between outrigger A > and B at terminal 1 in Frankfurt. You make it sound as though you wouldn't expect influenza to be lung-oriented. Flu *is* a respiratory disease. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMrn7w012198 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:53:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81907@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:32:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:32:35 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFWYd02596 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:32:34 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:35:03 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2SNY5; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:35:01 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:32:28 +0100 Subject: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up In-Reply-To: <20031217151059.GA32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000801c3c469$58cdd340$99cadece@0018079268> <20031217074003.GA31540@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217001044.02ae0578@mail.istori.com> <20031217130816.GA31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031217155751.02852958@localhost> <20031217151059.GA32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am trying to proof and teach Omnipage 14 to read about 60 pages. This is a difficult kind of text. The basic language is Norwegian from 1905. In the text there are quotes and longer texts in Swedish as of 1905. And of course there is some pure Danish (again as of 1905). Now the fun begins. At first I selected Danish as the expected source text because I forgot the Swedish - then I ran it again and added Norwegian since already at that time there were certain differences in Danish and Norwegian spelling. But the Norwegin, even if it is more Norwegian in some ways than modern Danish, is in other ways more archaic than modern Danish. And the whole Swedish material is from before their own pruning of archaic spelling in general: for instance this Swedish uses the combination '-fv-' in a lot of places where modern Swedish has '-v-'. But the real fun is that since these languages are so close what is an error in one of them may be correct in one or both of the others. And added to this: this is historic source material which is supposed to be displayed exactly as it was printed in 1906, including actual errors. Since I have been ill I am behind in this and on January 14 we are expecting the minister of research and education, probably the Swedish embassador and God knows who else to come here and sip some sparkling wine and virtually cut the ribbon. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:56:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMu67w012236 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:56:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81921@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:34:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:34:51 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFYod03221 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:34:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBHFYokF032284 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:34:50 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBHFYoq2032282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:34:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:34:49 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031217153449.GB32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = = >= throats and stuff. Nor do I know about medicines. I have been = >= fascinated by how so many of you seem intimate with particular = >= medicines. My attitude toward them is that that's why God created = >= doctors and pharmacists. I don't need to clutter my mind with that kind = >= of knowledge. = >= -- = >= -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) = > = >All I have to say is then, that you have been very lucky. = = Why lucky? I have had very, very few prescription medications in my = life. I guess that's lucky. That's why I was fascinated by the = Yes. That's very lucky. = So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? = I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be = expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors = and pharmacists spend years acquiring. = = -- = -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Also, everything you've ever gotten, the pills the doctors gave you cured you. That's lucky number two. The other way people pick up knowlege of medicines is the doctors give you something that doesn't work. So either you spend a lot of time letting them figure out what might work, or you research things to help them along.. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:58:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMwR7w012253 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:58:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8193A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:37:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:37:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFbDd03689 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:37:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021EEB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171537.hBHFbDd03689@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:37:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:27:05 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the >other day. > >I'm very scared ... > The Hobbit is not representative. LOTR is dramatic and very dark. You will see where a lot of Star Wars themes came from when you watch this. It's good that you saw 2T first. The bigger news here is that it was opening day for Krispy Kreme's first Syracuse store; the traffic was backed up down the Blvd when I came out of the eye Dr's office this am. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 16:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGMxp7w012268 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:59:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8194A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:38:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:38:36 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFcad04108 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:38:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81949@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:38:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171538.hBHFcad04108@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:38:35 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:39:45 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> I'm very scared ... > >As well you should be. > >Some of my friends write fan fiction based on that series, and I Just Don't >Get It. > >--Adam Which, the extreme fandom, or LOTR? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:03:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGN3a7w012333 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:03:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021EEE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:42:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:42:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFgLd04939 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:42:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021EF15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:42:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:42:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:15 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> You have to get into the Hobbitt. > >I tried to read it several times when I was a kidlet. It bored me something >fierce each time. > >--Adam Reading the Hobbit as a kidlet is an error, imho. My daughter also tried, and is allergic to Tolkien as a result. It's like an innoculation against understanding the truly adult breadth of the story. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:04:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGN4c7w012373 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:04:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81977@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:43:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:43:24 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFhNd05270 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:43:24 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:43:18 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AD@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:43:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Espen Ore [mailto:Espen.Ore@NB.NO] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:32 AM > I am trying to proof and teach Omnipage 14 to read about 60 > pages. This is a difficult kind of text. The basic language > is Norwegian from 1905. In the text there are quotes and > longer texts in Swedish as of 1905. And of course there is > some pure Danish (again as of 1905). Now the fun begins. At > first I selected Danish as the expected source text because I > forgot the Swedish - then I ran it again and added Norwegian > since already at that time there were certain differences in > Danish and Norwegian spelling. But the Norwegin, even if it > is more Norwegian in some ways than modern Danish, is in > other ways more archaic than modern Danish. And the whole > Swedish material is from before their own pruning of archaic > spelling in general: for instance this Swedish uses the > combination '-fv-' in a lot of places where modern Swedish has '-v-'. > > But the real fun is that since these languages are so close > what is an error in one of them may be correct in one or both > of the others. And added to this: this is historic source > material which is supposed to be displayed exactly as it was > printed in 1906, including actual errors. > > Since I have been ill I am behind in this and on January 14 > we are expecting the minister of research and education, > probably the Swedish embassador and God knows who else to > come here and sip some sparkling wine and virtually cut the ribbon. "Mess up" or not, it sounds totally cool to work on! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:05:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGN5Y7w012398 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:05:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8195F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:44:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFiDd05359 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:44:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021EEF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:44:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171544.hBHFiDd05359@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:44:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:09:31 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >> Well, > >> Natalie is pretty quiet tonight. Wonder if her eyes are glued shut and >> she can't see the screen. Sounds like she has conjunctivitis and should go >> see the doc. > >When I had conjunctivitis, I itched. No discharge, just lots of >itching. Are there different symptoms? > >Karen First comes the itching and the redeye. Then comes the gluey stage. I'd guess you caught it early or had a mild case. I've had it several times due to the pleasures of doing child care. The gluey kind is really frightening. Sometimes you have to soak the eyelids just to get the eye to open. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:07:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGN7q7w012425 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:07:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021EF38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209429 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFkbd06017 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:37 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:31 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AE@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Geek Alert Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Carolyn Ostrander [mailto:clostran@SYR.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:37 AM > The bigger news here is that it was opening day for Krispy > Kreme's first > Syracuse store; the traffic was backed up down the Blvd when > I came out > of the eye Dr's office this am. That's what happened when KK first opened here. After a couple of years, one burned and wasn't replaced, and for whatever reason, sales dropped off. You could pick your time to pick up anything you wanted of any volume (indicating poor sales and no line). Now, there are little signs in the gas stations indicating they've got them but from the looks, they could be as old as the hot dogs spinning - one could almost make a reality game show out of it: who can eat the most (of either), which ones are older?, etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:08:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGN8C7w012430 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:08:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81990@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:57 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFkvd06113 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81998@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171546.hBHFkvd06113@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:46:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Home Again To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:21:13 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Doris Markland writes, > >> > I bet you know what manipulatives are and how they can >> > help you focus. >> >>Alas, no. But a quick search was informative. > >Knowing to do a search is good enough. > >I'm still surprised worry beads didn't come up during the discussion. > >Pete I thought abt it as my son had a Greek set that he used for a while; but was told that it was Rita's gig that was of interest, so I let it drop. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGN9Q7w012444 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:09:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A819A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:48:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:48:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFmBd06440 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:48:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021EF4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:48:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171548.hBHFmBd06440@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:48:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:53:49 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Terry Wild wrote: >> Natalie is pretty quiet tonight. Wonder if her eyes are glued shut and >> she can't see the screen. Sounds like she has conjunctivitis and should go >> see the doc. > >My eyes are fine. I think the ear medicine must have zapped the eye >problem. But it is still wrestling with the ear problem. My feeling is >that coughing is related -- that every time I cough, which is about >every minute, the ears get refilled with whatever it is they're filled >with. But that is just my gut feeling. I know nothing about ears and >throats and stuff. Nor do I know about medicines. I have been >fascinated by how so many of you seem intimate with particular >medicines. My attitude toward them is that that's why God created >doctors and pharmacists. I don't need to clutter my mind with that kind >of knowledge. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) When relatives die because of medicinal misuse, you develop a different attitude quickly. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:13:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNDQ7w012522 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:13:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A819B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:52:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:52:11 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFqBd07223 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:52:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217155204.IJSB12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:52:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE07BA5.1050509@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:52:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A9@EXCHSRVR1> In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779A9@EXCHSRVR1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Phil Paxton wrote: > As I've mentioned in other messages, one of the worst things > people can do is buy [and use] all of the fancy-schmancy "antibacterial > (soap; laundry detergent; dental floss; dishwashing soap; yeah, I'm getting > a little carried away, but it's for a reason - the only time you really need > "antibacterial " is when you really need it - giving an injection > - medicine in general. Why aren't these products banned? > The other way you can contribute to society's > march towards reducing the efficacy of known antibiotics is when you have a > prescription for any antibiotics. If the directions say, "Take until > empty." they mean, "Take until empty." Unfortunately, people may have forty > tablets, feel better after twenty, and stop[5]. Your body has not killed > all of the bugs, just enough for you to feel better. The remaining bugs now > have the time & other resources to get stronger and become superbugs just as That's dumb -- not following directions. I'm a great believer in following directions. If it says take all of the pills, no matter how you feel, I figure there's a good reason for that direction, and I will follow it. > As far as this: > >>occasion in adulthood to go to a doctor because of . I've had >>prescriptions for things like birth-control pills, some kind of salve > > Doctors may (or may not) mention this, but it's probably good idea for > anyone who is on birth control to ask about that and antibiotics. I don't I can assure you that that is not relevant in my case. I was talking about all the prescription medicines I've had in my life. That was one. And during those years I had no occasion for antibiotics. As I think I mentioned, I remember a couple of occasions in childhood of penicillin shots but have never before in adulthood had any that required a doctor or shot or prescription (except glaucoma eye drops and Fosamax, of course). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNFZ7w012582 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:15:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A819D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:54:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:54:20 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFsJd07964 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:54:19 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBHFrn3c018272 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBHFrnVC030531 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:53:49 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:53:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Is it safe to read Natalie's posts? Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > if your kids are waking up with crusty eyes and they haven't > been with you, you likely know what they've been eating. That's it, young man, no more trips to Neverland Ranch for you! Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:16:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNGq7w012621 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:16:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021EF9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:55:37 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFtad08258 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:55:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217155526.IMEZ12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:55:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE07C6F.50008@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:55:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> <20031217153449.GB32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20031217153449.GB32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? > = I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be > = expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors > = and pharmacists spend years acquiring. > > Also, everything you've ever gotten, the pills the doctors gave > you cured you. That's lucky number two. ? Day before yesterday was the first time I've ever had a prescription for a short-term illness. (I say short-term to rule out glaucoma and osteoporosis.) So I'm not really sure what you mean by "everything [I've] ever gotten." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:20:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNKe7w012719 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:20:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81A13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:25 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFxPd08964 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:25 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBHFw73c000482 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBHFw7oC025503 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:58:07 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen, have you considered working with Project Gutenberg's Distributed Proofreaders (http://www.pgdp.net/) to correct the OCR? I've proofed 100 pages so far; it's a good way to read some interesting texts while helping others read them. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:20:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNKn7w012723 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:20:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A819FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:34 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHFxYd09006 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81A0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171559.hBHFxYd09006@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:59:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Espen? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:19:17 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Espen Ore [mailto:Espen.Ore@NB.NO] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:15 AM > >> I have just visited my doctor, mainly for a check on my blood >> pressure but when I was there I mentioned my cold - or my > >Do you suffer from the "white coat syndrome" when it comes to blood >pressure? Some people have a higher BP when they are in a doctor's office >(hence the reference to "white coat") than if they were at home, work, etc. >It's actually quite interesting to see how much of a difference there is. I learned years ago to lower my pulse rate and blood pressure, as well as raising my body temp, at will. Once I learned that anxiety was raising my bp in the office, I applied "warm hands" thinking to the problem, and my bp is very satisfactory ever since. > >> "cold". According to him it was a lung-oriented variant of >> influenza - which should mean that I am safe now from some of >> the more heavy variants floating around right now, and which >> also explains why I felt so bad when I came back from the >> North - or when I had run the distance between outrigger A >> and B at terminal 1 in Frankfurt. > >You make it sound as though you wouldn't expect influenza to be >lung-oriented. > >Flu *is* a respiratory disease. USually Upper Respiratory, though, (as opposed to Pulmonary or Lower Respiratory). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:24:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNO67w012783 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:24:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81A2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:02:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 210929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:02:51 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHG2pd09671 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:02:51 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121716024401600ron30e>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:02:45 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217074906.043e6ea8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:03:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Home Again In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot writes, >"In the second drawer I keep all my beads. Oh, how I love toplay with >beads - all kinds of beads." -King Kaspar explaining what's in his "box" >to Amahl And Googling for "worry-beads wikipedia" got me the "orchidometer" entry there: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchidometer An orchidometer, sometimes called "medical worry beads," is a calibrated set of ellipsoid beads of graduated sizes, used to compare with boys' testicles for diagnostic purposes. Here's a picture: http://www.health-for-all-children.co.uk/acatalog/Orchidometer.JPG It seems a useful device whose purpose I wouldn't have guessed from seeing it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:38:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNcn7w013060 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:38:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81A82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:09:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:09:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHG9Kd11652 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:09:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021F019@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:09:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171609.hBHG9Kd11652@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:09:20 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:55:27 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >steph wrote: >> = So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? >> = I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be >> = expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors >> = and pharmacists spend years acquiring. >> >> Also, everything you've ever gotten, the pills the doctors gave >> you cured you. That's lucky number two. > >? Day before yesterday was the first time I've ever had a prescription >for a short-term illness. (I say short-term to rule out glaucoma and >osteoporosis.) So I'm not really sure what you mean by "everything >[I've] ever gotten." > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It is nice for you that everything you've gotten has either a) not needed prescription medication or b) responded correctly to the medication you've been given (been fixed), without serious negative consequences. Many of us have learned that it's best to educate oneself thoroughly abt medications and their effects because of medications that didn't affect us properly - ie, either didn't do what they were hoped to do, or caused severe side-effects. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:38:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNcn7w013061 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:38:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81AEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:14:40 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGEdd13233 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:14:40 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:17:09 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2SN0C; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:17:03 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217170749.02882cf8@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:14:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 07:58 17.12.2003 -0800 skrev Ben Ostrowsky: >Espen, have you considered working with Project Gutenberg's Distributed >Proofreaders (http://www.pgdp.net/) to correct the OCR? No, I have not considered that. I didn't knwo about it - it is quite a few years since I was involved in anything with PG - I did a book for them once. But since I have a deadline of yesterday more or less, and since I have requirements when it comes to accuracy (as I mentioned, the text should be identical with the one in the printed edition, and identical here means down to the last comma) while for instance PG has as its philosophy that the text should be readable but not necessarily a copy of the original on the level that is needed for aa scholarly edition, it would not really cross my mind to get into that. Also, that would mean setting it up, worrying what to do if I didn't have it back by noon tomorrow etc. So that kind of thing is fine for many uses but not for my purposes. >I've proofed 100 pages so far; it's a good way to read some interesting >texts while helping others read them. Indeed, I enjoyed doing the Gutenberg book I did some years ago. I even entered information in the heading infor about which edition this was from - and found it removed when the text was published in PG. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:38:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNcn7w013062 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:38:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81AE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:17:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 212788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:17:00 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGH0d13647 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:17:00 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AF@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:16:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:natalie@MAYNOR.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:52 AM > Phil Paxton wrote: > > > As I've mentioned in other messages, one of the worst things > > people can do is buy [and use] all of the fancy-schmancy > "antibacterial > > (soap; laundry detergent; dental floss; dishwashing soap; > yeah, I'm getting > > a little carried away, but it's for a reason - the only > time you really need > > "antibacterial " is when you really need it - > giving an injection > > - medicine in general. > > Why aren't these products banned? C A P I T A L I S M Right now, it's the latest thing. If you want to see another one (which I'm presuming fits the same profile) then the next time you're in the grocery store (a reasonably sized one) or a general store such as Target, KMart (if they are still around in your area) and look at the household cleanser aisle. Lots of the products have oxy-* or orange* in their names or prominent lettering (mostly names because that's as prominent as they can get in their lettering). I will wager both Oxy-* and Orange-* are the results of infomercials[1] All of the suits for the "regular" brands have likely seen or projected sales for things such as OxyClean and OrangeClean and figured they'd better tap into it. There are now bunches of commercials targeting regular brands against "oxy this" (not by name) and lots of cleaning products now have "a lovely orange scent" to them. Now they didn't all decide to do this in the previous two years out of thin air, did they? [1] Did you know infomercials were created as a result of a presidential action? Ronald Regan deregulated the FCC, who had previously declared a maximum of seven minutes of commercials per half hour of air time. Once the FCC was deregulated, they removed that restriction, and the rest is how they invented chicken soup. > > The other way you can contribute to society's > > march towards reducing the efficacy of known antibiotics is > when you have a > > prescription for any antibiotics. If the directions say, > "Take until > > empty." they mean, "Take until empty." Unfortunately, > people may have forty > > tablets, feel better after twenty, and stop[5]. Your body > has not killed > > all of the bugs, just enough for you to feel better. The > remaining bugs now > > have the time & other resources to get stronger and become > superbugs just as > > That's dumb -- not following directions. I'm a great believer in > following directions. If it says take all of the pills, no matter how > you feel, I figure there's a good reason for that direction, > and I will > follow it. Guess what? Most patients don't follow directions! And to top it off, a lot of doctors aren't surprised by this. When I was an EMT (granted I stopped doing it about twenty years ago), if I had time, I'd ask for any meds they were taking so they could go along instead of someone trying to remember. Their bottle inventory was a nightmare. It wasn't a case of grabbing the bottles and running with them, knowing they are current - most of the time, no one had a clue as to what was being taken or not. Then again, I'm probably just as bad: I'm allergic to morphine and don't wear an alert tag. We've been trying to find a place where I could carry my list of meds because I have so many. Most wouldn't interfer with anything I would be treated with except pain killers. Aside from the allergy, there's the issue of my taking methadone for so long as well as some of my other meds which do some tinkering on my pain receptors a lot of things they'd give me wouldn't work the way they'd expect. Back to directions. I suffer from tendonitis in my right knee because of the PT (physical therapy) after my second surgery (I never got injured in college and it wasn't until we were playing indoor as a club that I did my knee twice). The orthopod said, "Do *NOT* let your foot hit the floor for the next two weeks." I asked, "so if I'm going to fall and I could correct it with a light touch, I should fall?" and he said, "yes". So two weeks later, I started PT. They stood me up and took away my crutches, then asked to walk, using the two tables for support, but were astounded I wasn't familiar with what I was doing. "You haven't been testing this?" "No. The doctor said..." "Huh. Most of the people experiment before they get here." and I said, "Now how would it look if I ruined the surgery because I cheated?" If I hurt it here, it's at least your fault, but I do follow instructions. If you tell me do ten times a day. Or don't ever do . I will follow your instructions to the letter of the law, no matter what." Well, under their supervision, I did a number on a rather lovely tendon. Penicillin used to be a fairly common allergy but I don't know if it is any more. Then again, I don't know the last time I heard someone getting penicillin - it's probably so weak it's not worth using. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:38:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNcn7w013059 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:38:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81A4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:07:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:07:33 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHG7Bd10954 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:07:11 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:07:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:06:51 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Home Again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBGNcn7w013059 I wonder why some are blue and some are red BrP >>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 12/17/03 11:03AM >>> It seems a useful device whose purpose I wouldn't have guessed from seeing it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNn47w013222 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81B62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:27:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 213719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:27:48 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHGRmd15711 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:27:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 17237 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2003 16:27:43 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-11.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2003 16:27:43 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FB0A9 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:27:43 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071678463!461702 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:27:43 -0500 Message-ID: <004f01c3c4ba$b2a40280$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AF@EXCHSRVR1> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Paxton >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:17 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Much deleted.... > >Penicillin used to be a fairly common allergy but I don't know >if it is any >more. Then again, I don't know the last time I heard someone getting >penicillin - it's probably so weak it's not worth using. > Either Phil is having a slow day at the office or a very fast typist. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:52:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNqA7w013255 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:52:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021F0AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:30:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:30:51 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGUpd16547 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:30:51 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121716304101600rihjme>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:30:42 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217082650.02ae3b20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:32:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Home Again In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot writes, >I wonder why some are blue and some are red Different stages of development, perhaps. The three red beads correspond to 16-25 ml, which one web page says is adult size. Unfortunately Prader's original article doesn't appear to be online; however, this article from the British Medical Journal about a chocolate alternative for the 8 ml bead (corresponding to the 50th centile at 13 years of age) is pretty funny if you read medicalese: http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/323/7327/1486 or http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=61053 Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:55:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNtH7w013305 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:55:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81BB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:34:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:34:02 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGY2d17338 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:34:02 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:33:57 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779B0@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:33:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Alec D. Plotkin [mailto:plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:28 AM > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Paxton > >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:17 AM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? > Much deleted.... > > > > >Penicillin used to be a fairly common allergy but I don't know > >if it is any > >more. Then again, I don't know the last time I heard someone getting > >penicillin - it's probably so weak it's not worth using. > > > > Either Phil is having a slow day at the office or a very fast typist. Being a touch typist helps! ;) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 17:57:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBGNv17w013333 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:57:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81BB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:35:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 214498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:35:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGZjd17552 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:35:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBHGZhkF032480 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:35:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBHGZhc3032478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:35:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:35:43 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031217163543.GA32409@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031216032507.72238.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> <3FDF0F3C.6000909@maynor.net> <1319992578.1071612884@TWild.uri.edu> <3FE051DD.1040104@maynor.net> <20031217132124.GB31996@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE06141.70902@maynor.net> <20031217153449.GB32228@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE07C6F.50008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE07C6F.50008@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = steph wrote: = >= So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? = >= I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be = >= expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors = >= and pharmacists spend years acquiring. = > = >Also, everything you've ever gotten, the pills the doctors gave = >you cured you. That's lucky number two. = = ? Day before yesterday was the first time I've ever had a prescription = for a short-term illness. (I say short-term to rule out glaucoma and = osteoporosis.) So I'm not really sure what you mean by "everything = [I've] ever gotten." = This just means that you're doubleplus lucky on not getting sick. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:07:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH07T7w013444 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:07:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81C33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:46:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:46:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGkEd19492 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:46:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021F181@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:46:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:46:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:16:54 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >Penicillin used to be a fairly common allergy but I don't know if it is any >more. Then again, I don't know the last time I heard someone getting >penicillin - it's probably so weak it's not worth using. Penicillin is derived from a mold, and many people with allergies to molds have penicillin allergies as well. Penicillin is still used, and its near relatives like amoxycillin are also still widely used. In fact, it's very good for ear infections. We started the expensive new antibiotic rounds somewhat before it was a general habit, due to my daughter's allergies to both -cillins and sulfas, as well as constant ear infections and strep throat rounds (which as I mentioned before, lessened dramatically after V stopped smoking inside the house, - and also the dog got given antiobiotics for an infected paw. it turned out later -who knew?- dogs can be carriers for strep and pass it to family members!) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:08:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH08s7w013464 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:08:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81C42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 215620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGldd19734 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:47:39 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ100I62TARW7@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:43:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:43:08 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I like peanut or avocado oil, and have used them happily as a body > moisturizer. The trick is to put it on right after toweling dry > from the > shower. The oily feeling soaks in pretty quickly. > > Right now I'm using Aveeno lotion after showers and hand-washings. I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" (love the name) hand cream at Restoration Hardware. But my usual hand cream is Neutrogena Norwegian formula. I also have hand eczema, and for really bad times I use a specially compounded beta ointment. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:14:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH0EF7w013529 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:14:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81C5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:53:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:53:00 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGr0d20795 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:53:00 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ100JDSTJOJF@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:48:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:48:32 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Christmas cards To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <10e94410e738.10e73810e944@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev > Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? Of course. What I've noticed with the cards we've received thus far is how the vast majority of them probably 10 of about 12 are pictures of our friends' kids. Pretty telling about the point in our lives that we're at. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:18:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH0Ip7w013621 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:18:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81CA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:57:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:57:35 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHGvZd21580 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:57:35 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121716572701100iibfge>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:57:28 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217085631.043fbc08@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:59:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes, >as I mentioned before, lessened dramatically after V stopped smoking inside >the house I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:27:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH0RF7w013785 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:27:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81CA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:05:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 216889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:06:00 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHH5xd22630 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:05:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 31186 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2003 17:05:53 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-10.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2003 17:05:53 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE72DBA for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:05:53 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1071680753!462715 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Christmas cards Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:05:53 -0500 Message-ID: <005201c3c4c0$07918c90$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <10e94410e738.10e73810e944@optonline.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBHH5xd22631 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:49 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Christmas cards > > >From: bonniev >> Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? > >Of course. > >What I've noticed with the cards we've received thus far is >how the vast majority of them probably 10 of about 12 are >pictures of our friends' kids. Pretty telling about the point >in our lives that we're at. > >Marie > We get the same kinda of cards. We are sometimes very sad or frustrated when we get the cards. Cancer and having kids cause many problems, we are looking into our options. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:33:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH0Xq7w013870 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:33:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81CDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:12:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:12:37 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHCXd23516 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:12:37 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779B1@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:12:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:59 AM > Carolyn Ostrander writes, > > >as I mentioned before, lessened dramatically after V stopped > smoking inside > >the house > > I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear > infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. When I was contracting for a company in Kentucky, they were small enough (10-12 people) they permitted smoking. They also had a lot of failing computers - they didn't understand that there are small fragments in the air as a byproduct which are very sensitive to electromagnetic equipment such that they might as well be magnetic themselves. Over time, these particles build up in a PC because of the attraction, and ... (you can guess what happens) (I wore five sets of clothes while there and rotated them so I would only ruin those five with the tobacco smoke.) All of the hospitals in Indy went to "no smoking". Now the city council[1] has been trying to determine if "no smoking" should be the policy in Indy - the hotel/bar/restaurant owners have said it will kill their business(es). No one has pointed out that people are suddenly going to drive an hour away just so they can smoke while they eat. [1] we have what's called "unigov" - the city & the county essentially are the same gov't with some minor differences - so the city council is the primary law-making body for both city+county. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:42:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH0g67w013962 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:42:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81D2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:20:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217826 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:20:50 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHKod24762 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:20:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ1001URUUP3J@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:16:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:16:22 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Doggy dancing To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all this?? http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 18:44:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH0i47w013992 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 18:44:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021F26B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 217905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:22:48 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHMmd24926 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:22:48 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ100K8UUXZYA@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:18:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:18:20 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <10029e1068e4.1068e410029e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I got curious yesterday about who this doctor was the other day and > >looked at his name on the medicines, then looked in the telephone > book,>which is for the whole Golden Triangle area -- Starkville, > West Point, > >Columbus, plus various other tiny towns. He's not in it as a doctor. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > There would be no need to have his name in the yellow pages > because one > doesn't call him for an appointment. He is merely part of the > hospital staff. I could look him up in the ABMS and AMA directories if you are interested. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH14W7w014291 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:04:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81DE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:43:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:43:16 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHhGd27996 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:43:16 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.69] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37335619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:43:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE095B3.9040202@bc.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:43:15 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy dancing References: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all this?? > >http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm > >Marie > Simply amazing! Rita L. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:08:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH18i7w014414 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:08:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A81DF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:47:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:47:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHbSd27434 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:37:28 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBHHa8DG024378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:36:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:37:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" Great. Of course we should write No-Crack Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:15:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH1FJ7w014516 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:15:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A81DFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:54:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:54:03 -0500 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHs3d29036 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:54:03 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ100LBKWE2SZ@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:49:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:49:35 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <10938a104524.10452410938a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" > > Great. Of course we should write No-Crack Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off. Truth is the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula hand cream works better. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:16:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH1GO7w014546 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:16:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81E10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:55:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:55:08 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHHt8d29153 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:55:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ1005QPWFW9C@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.80] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:50:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:50:41 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <10b077103e35.103e3510b077@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't remember whether it identified its geographical location. Its > name was something like Rush Medical School. It's in Chicago. I don't think of it as . Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:31:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH1Vq7w014793 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:31:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81EC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:10:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 221680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:10:36 -0500 Received: from exchsrvr1.corp.escient.com (207-250-220-30.escient.com [207.250.220.30] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHIAad32349 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:10:36 -0500 Received: by EXCHSRVR1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:10:30 -0500 Message-ID: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779B3@EXCHSRVR1> From: Phil Paxton To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Doggy dancing Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:10:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > From: Marie Ascher [mailto:14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:16 PM > How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all this?? > > http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm Without digging any more, I'll betcha a nickel it's a rescued dog from a shelter. They make excellent dogs for these types of shows - one reason is to prevent people from thinking it's got to be a purebreed to be able to perform.[1] In about a month, it'll be two years since we lost Kramer[2,3,4,5] (Kramer had black, poofy hair on Seinfeld, so...; and after we lost him, our Kees got the name Cosmo[6] to honor Kramer). Kramer never performed like that, but if you showed him certain things once, he'd do them again on cue. We took him to obedience school[4] and it almost seemed a waste of time (although it wasn't). We show him something to do and he'd do it for the bite of hotdog, and thereafter, on cue. And when he was put into a "stay", "down stay", "standing stay", he wouldn't break it until we told him to, even if the staff from the school offered him a hotdog. He'd wag his tail, look at them as if to say, "I know what you think I'm supposed to do but I'm following someone else's instructions at the moment, thank you very much." The guy running the school said, "He's not a purebred, you know." (despite the fact Kramer had as black a tongue as possible and our vet said the color of the tongue can almost be used as an indicator of "chow-ness". I responded, "we're not interested in breeding him, just having him as a member of the family." I wish I had some methadone with me. According to the hash marks on my wrist, it's day seven and crying is one of the things which notches the pain up a couple of levels. I've been sitting at migraine levels all week anyway. [1] There's a group performing at the state fair every year which uses five or six rescued dogs performing similar [but nowhere as long as the] routines presented. They restate they are rescues many times. They've said it takes several months to learn some of the simpler routines. It all comes down to breaking things into pieces and communicating what you want to happen. [2] Kramer was our second rescue. I was doing some contract work and someone sent out email: "We've found a black male chow which is about forty pounds. He doesn't get along with our dog and our dog is staying. We've put posters up, run ads in the paper, etc. and today is his last day with us. If no one comes to get him, he's going to the pound." I got directions and went out to see him. He came right over and I checked him out. "Are you *sure* you don't want him?" "yes." I opened the door and said, "Let's go home!" and by the time I finished that, he was in the front seat, ready to go. Interestingly enough, that was Holly's birthday. [3] Purdue is up the road a ways and after we lost Kramer, a guy from Purdue's animal research walked in to the hospital's administrative pharmacy (where Holly works) to pick up some meds. The meds he used turned out to have been possible to heal Kramer - about six weeks after we had to put him to sleep - he didn't go downhill until the last week - sometimes finding answers sucks. [4] Our vet cried with us. He was the only chow chow anyone on the staff would kneel down and get down in his face, feeling safe. I rushed home because he went out when Holly opened the door, layed down, and wouldn't get up, he was too weak. He hated to get picked up. In this case, there was no alternative. [5]We used to take him to the nursing home where Holly's grandmother lived. The first time we walked in with him, I unclipped his leash and turned him loose. I know it's easy to trust a dog, but this went way beyond trust. I *knew* he was trustworthy. The staff knew by watching him as well. He'd walk up to someone and if they didn't see him, he'd nudge them a moment and rest his head on their lap. If they scratched him or pet him, he'd stay. If not, he'd move on. [6] Cosmo was born on Holly's birthday & the day we rescued Kramer. Symbolic? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH1Y87w014828 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:34:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81ECA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:12:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 220526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:12:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHI2qd30499 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:02:52 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBHI1VDG001872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:01:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:02:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies In-Reply-To: <10938a104524.10452410938a@optonline.net> Message-ID: References: <10938a104524.10452410938a@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" >> >> Great. Of course we should write No-Crack Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off. > >Truth is the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula hand cream works better. My experience is that this varies by individual. I am glad you have things that work for you. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 19:59:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH1xu7w015261 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:59:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A81F69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 223285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHIced03544 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp01.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.121]) by smtpout01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA98BJU4ALUWTTA for (sender ); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16551 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2003 18:36:31 -0000 Received: from 02-082.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.82) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2003 18:36:31 -0000 Message-ID: <00ce01c3c4cc$f8e2ee20$529a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> <3FDF2CFE.7040004@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Christmas cards Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:38:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 7:3:3841217839 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? It's never been one of my rites, but this year I found my mother's stash of unused freebies, from Paralyzed Veterans etc., mismatched envelopes -- a few of them already stamped with the 33-cent denomination, and her card list ending about the year 2000, when illnesses and lethargy caused her to stop sending and updating. Suddenly I got into The Spirit! The chintzier the card, the better. I found some old generic upgrade stamps in my stash, so mailed out a dozen or more to family, with appropriately cheery HO-HO-HO sentiments, decorating the envelopes with all the Habitat for Humanity address labels I could find -- stockings hung over the mantel, wrapped presents, ribbons, songbirds, and the like. Made me feel good, let me tell you! Incoming volume has not been like what it used to be in the peak years of their Ministry, but every card, even if it's just signed and no more, triggers an Ah-ha memory and maybe a smile. Daddy is gloating because our bank sent him one and not me. :( brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:20:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2Ku7w015665 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:20:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82023@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:59:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:59:40 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHIxeB07899 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:59:40 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBHIxbbV803000 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:59:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:59:37 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> Message-ID: References: <3FDB5ACA.6070103@maynor.net> <008001c3c1ac$9e03f120$149a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU brad: > might tune in to It's A Wonderful Life on NBC; it has been a > while since I boo-hooed in front of the telly. jeez, Brad, I know that movie sucks out loud, but it's so bad it drives you to tears? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:21:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2LR7w015671 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:21:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021F53F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:00:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:00:10 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHJ0AB08043 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:00:10 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBHJ07bV1482838 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:00:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:00:07 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <1126257351.20031213131457@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213111308.00b94160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1126257351.20031213131457@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: > Ha! No. They are getting married in Savannah, and it is a HUGE deal. > This date was extremely difficult to arrive at, there are so many > people involved. Polygamists, eh? -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:47:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2lo7w016145 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:47:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A82113@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:26:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:26:33 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHJQXB12888 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:26:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217192628.DAVD13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:26:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE0ADE4.9020200@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:26:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas cards References: <10e94410e738.10e73810e944@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <10e94410e738.10e73810e944@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > What I've noticed with the cards we've received thus far is how the vast majority of them probably 10 of about 12 are pictures of our friends' kids. Pretty telling about the point in our lives that we're at. I think I get just as many of those now as I did when my contemporaries were first having children. They tend now to be group pictures of extended families: the couple my age, their grown children and children-in-law, and grandchildren. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:52:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2qc7w016205 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:52:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8211F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:31:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:31:21 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHJVLB13780 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:31:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217193116.DDGA13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:31:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE0AF04.6000907@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:31:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <10029e1068e4.1068e410029e@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <10029e1068e4.1068e410029e@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I could look him up in the ABMS and AMA directories if you are interested. Thanks, but I doubt that there'd be any more info in a directory than there is about him on the hospital website -- his med school, internship, and residency. He might not even be in directories since he's not board certified. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:53:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2rn7w016226 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:53:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82129@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:32:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:32:32 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHJWWB13978 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:32:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217193227.DDVX13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:32:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE0AF4B.4000108@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:32:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy dancing References: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> <3FE095B3.9040202@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FE095B3.9040202@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm >> >> Marie >> > > Simply amazing! > > Rita L. I've alerted Spencer that when my ears stop throbbing, I'm going to teach him to dance. He's ready for it. He hasn't had a walk in ages now and is ready for any action at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:54:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2sO7w016249 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:54:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82148@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:33:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:33:07 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHJX7B14067 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:33:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217193302.DEEI13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:33:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE0AF6E.5040709@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:33:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors References: <10b077103e35.103e3510b077@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <10b077103e35.103e3510b077@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>I don't remember whether it identified its geographical location. Its >>name was something like Rush Medical School. > > It's in Chicago. I don't think of it as . That's good. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 20:59:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH2x07w016310 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:59:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021F682@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:37:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:37:39 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBHJbcB14950 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:37:39 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:37:38 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:37:27 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Doggy dancing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBH2x07w016310 AHA! That's how you teach a dog to dance! Keep him inside long enough.... BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 12/17/03 02:32PM >>> I've alerted Spencer that when my ears stop throbbing, I'm going to teach him to dance. He's ready for it. He hasn't had a walk in ages now and is ready for any action at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 21:02:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH32J7w016366 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:02:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A82192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:41:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:41:02 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHJf2B15755 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:41:02 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-152.gwi.net [216.195.154.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBHJexGp023645; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:41:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217144034.00b366d8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:40:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Doggy dancing In-Reply-To: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:16 PM 12/17/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all this?? > >http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm Samuel Johnson lives... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 21:55:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH3t77w017284 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:55:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82376@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 233079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHKXoB26126 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:33:50 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ200J3I3SDKQ@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:29:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:29:10 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <11eb2811c21e.11c21e11eb28@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > I could look him up in the ABMS and AMA directories if you are > interested. > Thanks, but I doubt that there'd be any more info in a directory than > there is about him on the hospital website -- his med school, > internship, and residency. He might not even be in directories since > he's not board certified. He'd be in the AMA Directory so long as he's *licensed* but you're right -- they don't have that much information. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 22:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH48B7w017499 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:08:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021F8BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:46:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:46:54 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHKksB28650 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:46:54 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-152.gwi.net [216.195.154.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBHKkqGn035866 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:46:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:47:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217085631.043fbc08@mail.istori.com> References: <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear >infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. >Pete I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and don't remember ever having an ear infection or strep throat. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 22:24:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH4Oe7w017880 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:24:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0021F962@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHL3NB00549 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:03:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBHL3LkF000461 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:03:21 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBHL3Lmd000459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:03:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:03:21 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031217210321.GB368@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: = >I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear = >infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. = >Pete = = I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and don't remember ever = having an ear infection or strep throat. Add one more to the smoking parents, kids earaches and strep. Interestingly, it all went away when we moved to San Diego where even though my mom continued to smoke, we lived for most of the year with two screen doors and all the windows open. I figured it was just related to Chicago, but my roommate my first year in college didn't smoke and I didn't get strep. My sophmore year I had a roommate who did smoke, and I did get strep. I cannot imagine living with a smoker in a room that's 10x10 (scratch that, I cannot imagine living in a room that small with anyone, let alone a smoker). From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 22:44:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH4i67w018213 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:44:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82558@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:22:49 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHLMnB04699 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:22:49 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ200KBQ6253P@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:22:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:18:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:18:12 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <12b56812be1c.12be1c12b568@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > college didn't smoke and I didn't get strep. My sophmore year I > had a roommate who did smoke, and I did get strep. I cannot > imagine living with a smoker in a room that's 10x10 (scratch > that, I cannot imagine living in a room that small with anyone, > let alone a smoker). When I was a freshman in college, there were three of us in a tiny room and we all smoked. How nasty is that? (And I got strep.) Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 22:51:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH4p57w018352 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:51:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82581@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:29:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:29:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHLTmB05739 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:29:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021FA25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:29:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312172129.hBHLTmB05739@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:29:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:12:27 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> From: Peter Kaminski [mailto:kaminski@ISTORI.COM] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:59 AM > >> Carolyn Ostrander writes, >> >> >as I mentioned before, lessened dramatically after V stopped >> smoking inside >> >the house >> >> I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear >> infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. > >When I was contracting for a company in Kentucky, they were small enough >(10-12 people) they permitted smoking. They also had a lot of failing >computers - they didn't understand that there are small fragments in the air >as a byproduct which are very sensitive to electromagnetic equipment such >that they might as well be magnetic themselves. Over time, these particles >build up in a PC because of the attraction, and ... (you can guess what >happens) > >(I wore five sets of clothes while there and rotated them so I would only >ruin those five with the tobacco smoke.) > >All of the hospitals in Indy went to "no smoking". > >Now the city council[1] has been trying to determine if "no smoking" should >be the policy in Indy - the hotel/bar/restaurant owners have said it will >kill their business(es). No one has pointed out that people are suddenly >going to drive an hour away just so they can smoke while they eat. > >[1] we have what's called "unigov" - the city & the county essentially are >the same gov't with some minor differences - so the city council is the >primary law-making body for both city+county. NYS went no-smoking for bars and restaurants recently; some of us nonsmokers are spending more time and money in bars now that it doesn't hurt so much; and in spite of the "it will kill us" and blaming the law when a business fails, business seems to be booming after a scant week or two of low activity in some venues. The two places I've heard of that blamed closing up on the smoking law, were both notorious for mismanagement and owner/partner disputes. The other interesting development is that V came home quite drunk one night after having been in a speakeasy - a place that secretly collects money from smoking customers in anticipation of fines - to see what it was like. Everybody there feels naughty and rebellious; but most people here just take the rule in stride. For lots of people like V, who already didn't smoke inside at work or home, it's not a big deal to step outside at a restaurant either. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 23:04:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH54M7w018556 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:04:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A825DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:43:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:43:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHLh4B07737 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:43:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBHLh36X013592 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:43:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:43:43 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <496427276.20031217154343@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:15 -0500, Adam Hartfield > wrote: >>> You have to get into the Hobbitt. >> >>I tried to read it several times when I was a kidlet. It bored me something >>fierce each time. >> >>--Adam > Reading the Hobbit as a kidlet is an error, imho. My daughter also tried, > and is allergic to Tolkien as a result. It's like an innoculation against > understanding the truly adult breadth of the story. Hmmm... I tried in my 20's with the same result. Maybe I'm just immature. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 16 23:22:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH5M37w018827 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:22:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8268A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 240761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHM0kB10270 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBHM0irm023933 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:00:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:01:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear >>infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. >>Pete > I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and don't remember ever > having an ear infection or strep throat. You were lucky. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 00:09:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH6937w019643 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8279F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:46 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHMljB16006 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-152.gwi.net [216.195.154.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBHMlfGr056672; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217174118.00b55b90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:44:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <496427276.20031217154343@WordWrite.com> References: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:43 PM 12/17/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Hmmm... I tried in my 20's with the same result. Maybe I'm just >immature. Perhaps, but I don't think it has any bearing on this. ;--> I read The Hobbit first. Having now read both many times, I believe that The Hobbit is best appreciated as a "prequel" after having read the trilogy. I'm not sure why I believe this (or at the least, I can't articulate it), but the sense is strong. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 00:09:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH6957w019648 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A827B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHMlkB16012 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:46 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-152.gwi.net [216.195.154.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBHMlfGt056672; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217174627.00b5ed38@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:47:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217085631.043fbc08@mail.istori.com> <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:47 PM 12/17/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear >>infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. >>Pete > >I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and don't remember ever >having an ear infection or strep throat. Same here. Perhaps you're just immunologically challenged, Pete. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 00:35:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH6Zf7w020317 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:35:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82881@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:14:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 245275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:14:23 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHNENB19267 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:14:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217231418.HAYZ13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE0E34A.2040805@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:14:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, bonniev wrote: > >>>I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and plenty of ear >>>infections and strep throat rounds. Yuck. >>>Pete > >>I grew up with two parents smoking in the house and don't remember ever >>having an ear infection or strep throat. > > You were lucky. Welcome to LuckyLife, Bonniemae. I grew up in a house with what I guess I'd call 1.5 parents smoking -- Daddy always smoked, Mama was an occasional smoker, and I have smoked most of my adult life. I've never had strep throat that I know of. And I never had an ear infection until the current incident. (And I haven't smoked in my house in years -- never in this particular house.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 01:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH7CU7w021001 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:12:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021FD4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:51:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246448 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:51:12 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBHNpBB22213 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:51:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.132.191]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031217235106.HFGU7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:51:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE0EBEB.1010701@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:51:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: I Don't Understand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have CBS news on my tiny electric teevee right now and heard Dan Rather say something a little while ago like, "The capture of Saddam doesn't seem to have changed Howard Dean's position on the war." I found that a dopey statement. Why would it change anybody's position on the war? As I think I said a few days ago, it is a good thing that he was finally found -- for many reasons. But what does finding him have to do with the illegal war? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 01:30:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH7Ue7w021430 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:30:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8292C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:09:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:09:21 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI09LB23722 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:09:21 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBI09HRp009746 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:09:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3c4fb$54de5c40$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <496427276.20031217154343@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Geek Alert Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:10:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > understanding the truly adult breadth of the story. > > Hmmm... I tried in my 20's with the same result. Maybe I'm just > immature. > > Karen I never made it. Tried. Gave up. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 01:35:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH7Z67w021482 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:35:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82969@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:13:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:13:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI0DmB24387 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:13:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBI0Dkrm025196 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:13:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:14:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1486039836.20031217181428@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213111308.00b94160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1126257351.20031213131457@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > Karen: >> Ha! No. They are getting married in Savannah, and it is a HUGE deal. >> This date was extremely difficult to arrive at, there are so many >> people involved. > Polygamists, eh? No, sibs. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 01:47:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH7lM7w021680 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:47:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021FE02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:26:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:25:54 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI0PrB25524 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:25:53 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-152.gwi.net [216.195.154.152]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBI0Pp57088224 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:25:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:26:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FE0E34A.2040805@maynor.net> References: <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Welcome to LuckyLife, Bonniemae. I grew up in a house with what I guess >I'd call 1.5 parents smoking -- Daddy always smoked, Mama was an >occasional smoker, and I have smoked most of my adult life. I've never >had strep throat that I know of. And I never had an ear infection ... ... > -- Natalie Thank you for the welcome. Like you I've never taken a medicine that didn't work and I'm not intimately familiar with brands of antibiotics. At this afternoon's stitching session, someone noted that people who have been parents are much more proactive about their health care because they are used to having to find out all the details and quiz the doctors when taking care of children. That could be true. One of the women has a diabetic (Type 1) husband. She keeps a huge folder of information, drug interactions, testing results. She insists on going in to the examining room with him because he doesn't ask enough questions left on his own. He had to have gall bladder surgery this past summer. By the time they decided what was wrong with him, they had him whacked out on pain medication. It was up to her to give permission for the surgery. The doctor didn't allow her to go home and google on it before making a decision. She was distressed. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 01:52:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH7q47w021717 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:52:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8299A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI0UjB26106 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:30:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-152.gwi.net [216.195.154.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBI0UgGp071801; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:30:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217193023.00b65a70@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:30:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <1486039836.20031217181428@WordWrite.com> References: <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FCAAC48.1010806@swbell.net> <4.2.2.20031130182653.00a7b820@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213103058.00b88100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213105713.00b8bb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213110417.00b8c5b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031213111308.00b94160@uclink.berkeley.edu> <1126257351.20031213131457@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:14 PM 12/17/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: > > Karen: > >> Ha! No. They are getting married in Savannah, and it is a HUGE deal. > >> This date was extremely difficult to arrive at, there are so many > >> people involved. > > > Polygamists, eh? > >No, sibs. Kinky. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 02:27:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH8RI7w022264 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:27:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82A25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:05:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:05:59 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI15xB29054 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:05:59 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121801055401600sstf1e> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:05:54 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Geek Alert Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:05:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200312171538.hBHFcad04108@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Which, the extreme fandom, or LOTR? > > clo The extreme fandom. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 02:30:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH8Ui7w022311 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:30:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82A35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:09:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:09:24 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI19OB29327 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:09:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBI19Krm001343 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:09:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:10:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Happier than a pig in... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Someone I know told me that a friend of hers was looking to give her yarn to a good home. So I went and picked it up today. About 50 cones of wool, 20 skeins, plus a half-dozen cones of linen. Woohoo! I could never afford all of this! It's like Christmas! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 02:45:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH8j97w022541 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:45:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82A43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:23:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:23:50 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1NoB30755 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:23:50 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121801234501100i72r3e> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:23:45 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:23:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AF@EXCHSRVR1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > We've been trying to find a place where I could carry my list of meds > because I have so many. MedicAlert. You can enter gazillions of meds into your record in their database. http://www.medicalert.com --Adam who is reminded to renew his membership From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 02:48:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH8mS7w022577 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:48:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82A66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:27:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:27:09 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1R9B31024 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:27:09 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1R9rW015664 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:27:09 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1R9Kj006522 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:27:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:25:03 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happier than a pig in... Message-ID: <1399811015.1071692703@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> References: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's like Christmas! > > Karen It IS Christmas! Congratulations. What are you going to make? Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 02:50:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH8oF7w022592 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:50:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82A6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:28:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:28:56 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1SuB31167 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:28:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1St1t011875 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:28:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE10281.90306@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:27:29 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Thank you for the welcome. Like you I've never taken a medicine that > didn't work and I'm not intimately familiar with brands of antibiotics. At > this afternoon's stitching session, someone noted that people who have been > parents are much more proactive about their health care because they are > used to having to find out all the details and quiz the doctors when taking > care of children. That could be true. One of the women has a diabetic Hmm. Yeah. I do tend to be more education about Ana's health than I'd bother about with my own. Also, kids tend to get more bacterial crap because of being in schools, which are germ fests of incredible magnitude. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH91X7w022788 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:01:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82AA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:40:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:40:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1eDB32734 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:40:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBI1eCeO004817 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:40:12 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBI1eBa2004777; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:40:11 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031217173918.00ab4460@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:42:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Happier than a pig in... In-Reply-To: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's great !!! Do you have any projects in mind? Betty At 07:10 PM 12/17/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Someone I know told me that a friend of hers was looking to give her >yarn to a good home. So I went and picked it up today. About 50 cones >of wool, 20 skeins, plus a half-dozen cones of linen. Woohoo! I could >never afford all of this! It's like Christmas! > >Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH97F7w022927 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:07:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0021FF54@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:45:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:45:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1juB00910 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:45:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBI1jr6X025829 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:45:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:46:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1694117326.20031217194635@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happier than a pig in... In-Reply-To: <1399811015.1071692703@TWild.uri.edu> References: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> <1399811015.1071692703@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: > It IS Christmas! Congratulations. What are you going to make? Everything.:) I'm currently making some candy cane lace socks out of what My Fiber Friend calls ack-really-ick. Those will go to my sister. I'm also making socks for Paul, corrugated socks for me (out of yarn that was given to me by someone else), and a shawl for me. Once all THOSE are done, I'll have to decide what to do with this stuff. Probably lots more socks; I've been wanting to get into more color work, so this is serendipitous! Actually, there are two things stopping me from knitting this all up tonight: 1) the cardboard cones most of it is on are deteriorating, so I need to wind the yarn off into balls. (Luckily, My Fiber Friend has a ball-winder she's going to lend me.) 2) It smells profusely of moth balls, to which I am allergic. The only way to get rid of the smell is time, unfortunately. (And I think winding it off the cones will help.) If you've read this far, Terry, Burl and I made you a present which I mailed Priority Mail yesterday. I need to write an explanation for it, though, which I neglected to do before I mailed it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:13:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH9DI7w023023 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:13:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82ABE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:51:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 250981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:51:59 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1pwB01486 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:51:59 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1pwrW016254 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:51:58 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1pwKj009769 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:51:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:49:52 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <1401300218.1071694192@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FE10281.90306@swbell.net> References: <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> <519818311.20031217160125@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> <3FE10281.90306@swbell.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:27 PM -0600 Rita Chapman wrote: > Hmm. Yeah. I do tend to be more education about Ana's > health than I'd bother about with my own. Also, kids tend > to get more bacterial crap because of being in schools, > which are germ fests of incredible magnitude. > > I find it imperative to ask questions. In my family, my grandmother walks in and says she's coughing and expects the doc to tell her what's wrong. She doesn't ask questions. My parents are a bit better, but when my Mom had leukemia, I'd come up with all these questions. She took notes and asked at the next visit. I always ask questions and sometimes follow up days later with more questions. I had a doctor want to prescribe an allergy medicine for me when my gut (actually head) told me it wasn't right. I never took it, went and got non-allergy sinus med and was fine. I didn't go back to him. There is a tendency to over prescribe just to give people the feel good they are being treated. I try to avoid that any way possible. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:18:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH9Im7w023099 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:18:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82AD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:29 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1vTB02194 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:29 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1vSrW016367 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:28 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI1vSKj010434 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:55:22 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happier than a pig in... Message-ID: <1401630359.1071694522@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <1694117326.20031217194635@WordWrite.com> References: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> <1399811015.1071692703@TWild.uri.edu> <1694117326.20031217194635@WordWrite.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > the cardboard cones most of it is on are deteriorating, so > I need to wind the yarn off into balls. (Luckily, My Fiber Friend has > a ball-winder she's going to lend me.) I have fond memories of sitting in the family farmhouse next to the coal/wood stove in the kitchen helping my grandmother roll balls from skeins of yarn. The chair arms were just the right size to hold the skein. 2) It smells profusely of moth > balls, to which I am allergic. The only way to get rid of the smell is > time, unfortunately. (And I think winding it off the cones will help.) > A really good airing!!!! > If you've read this far, Terry, Burl and I made you a present which I > mailed Priority Mail yesterday. I need to write an explanation for it, > though, which I neglected to do before I mailed it. > > Karen Thank you both! I will be eagerly watching the mail. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH9J27w023102 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:19:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A82ACF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:43 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI1vhB02208 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:43 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121801573801600sspo3e> (Authid: adamh1); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:57:38 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Christmas cards Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:35 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216105514.00bacf80@pop.gwi.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? I want to, but I just don't know where I'll find the time. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:23:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH9NO7w023149 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:23:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82AEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:02:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:02:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI224B02621 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:02:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBI2236X015539 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:02:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:02:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14610726074.20031217200245@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Happier than a pig in... In-Reply-To: <1401630359.1071694522@TWild.uri.edu> References: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> <1399811015.1071692703@TWild.uri.edu> <1694117326.20031217194635@WordWrite.com> <1401630359.1071694522@TWild.uri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, Terry Wild wrote: >> the cardboard cones most of it is on are deteriorating, so >> I need to wind the yarn off into balls. (Luckily, My Fiber Friend has >> a ball-winder she's going to lend me.) > I have fond memories of sitting in the family farmhouse next to the > coal/wood stove in the kitchen helping my grandmother roll balls from > skeins of yarn. The chair arms were just the right size to hold the skein. Yes--I would love to do this by hand, but it's a ridiculous amount of wool, and since MFF has a ballwinder... > 2) It smells profusely of moth >> balls, to which I am allergic. The only way to get rid of the smell is >> time, unfortunately. (And I think winding it off the cones will help.) >> > A really good airing!!!! Hard to air cones.:) Maybe I'll make skeins before I wind it into balls, that will help. > Thank you both! I will be eagerly watching the mail. It's nothing big, really. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:50:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH9og7w023611 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:50:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82B05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:29:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:29:23 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI2TFB04666 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:29:16 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031218022908014000oueie>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:29:10 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217182243.047ffe38@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:31:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217174627.00b5ed38@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217154642.00b62768@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217085631.043fbc08@mail.istori.com> <200312171646.hBHGkEd19492@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cwv writes, >Same here. Perhaps you're just immunologically challenged, Pete. Genetically pre-disposed, sure. But I'm sure I would have been sick less if my parents hadn't smoked. I also wonder if my mom smoking when she was pregnant made things worse. And other things, like formula instead of breastmilk, cereal at two weeks, etc. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 03:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBH9xe7w023732 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:59:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82B48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:38:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:38:20 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI2cJB05576 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:38:19 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:37:36 PST Message-ID: <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:37:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > Since I have been ill I am behind in this and on > January 14 we are expecting the minister of research > and education, probably the Swedish embassador and > God knows who else to come here and sip some > sparkling wine and virtually cut the ribbon. This is really impressive and interesting. I wish I had the time and intellect to pursue the evolution of languages. I am barely literate in English. Do you think the king might come? Does Norway have a king now? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:13:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHADP7w023967 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:13:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0021FFF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:52:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 252582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:52:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI2g5B06046 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:42:05 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBI2ehDG011397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:40:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:42:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> Anyone besides me sending out Christmas cards this year? >I want to, but I just don't know where I'll find the time. Moi aussi. And just this morning, I got a reservation at the Abbey of Gethsemani for Christmas week (Mon-Fri) - for the first time. I may not be able to get away until Tues, but I am going to shoot for Mon - I am really looking forward to this. I spoke with one of the monks at some length this morning. There will be a midnight mass on Christmas Eve, complete with a singing of "Silent Night" at the close of the service - in the finest Anglican - or at least Episcopal - tradition. Tonight, I rehearsed with the Cathedral choir for Sunday (IV Advent - Lessons & Carols) and Christmas - it was nice to get to sing Christmas carols with the choir since I will not be here to sing them Christmas Eve. But of course we sing them for 12 days. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:20:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAKL7w024080 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:20:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00220039@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:59:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:59:02 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI2x1B07397 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:59:01 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:58:56 PST Message-ID: <20031218025856.40270.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:58:56 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy dancing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all > this?? > > http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm > > Marie I believe, a basic understanding of the canine's profound instinct to please, love, patience, and gobs of spare time. Really cool, Marie! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:29:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHATY7w024189 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:29:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:08:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:08:14 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI38EB08334 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:08:14 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:08:08 PST Message-ID: <20031218030808.29005.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas cards To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <00ce01c3c4cc$f8e2ee20$529a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bogris01 wrote: > It's never been one of my rites, but this year I > found my > mother's stash of unused freebies, from Paralyzed > Veterans etc., > mismatched envelopes -- a few of them already > stamped with the > 33-cent denomination, and her card list ending about > the year > 2000, when illnesses and lethargy caused her to stop > sending and > updating. Suddenly I got into The Spirit! The > chintzier the > card, the better. I found some old generic upgrade > stamps in my > stash, so mailed out a dozen or more to family, with > appropriately cheery HO-HO-HO sentiments, decorating > the > envelopes with all the Habitat for Humanity address > labels I > could find -- stockings hung over the mantel, > wrapped presents, > ribbons, songbirds, and the like. Made me feel > good, let me tell > you! My maternal grandmother and her circle of friends settled on one beautiful, lacy card of Gibson Girl vintage that they mailed back and forth between them each Christmas. No one knew who would get it next. It went this way through the mail for 36 years, before it finally gave up the ghost. They took great pleasure in this little custom, and I remember my grandmother giggling like a young girl when it came to her. I guess it seems pretty silly these days, but things like that amused them tremendously. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:32:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAWK7w024240 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:32:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:11:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:11:01 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3B1B08696 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:11:01 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:10:55 PST Message-ID: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hey, Brad To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > jeez, Brad, I know that movie sucks > out loud, but it's so bad it drives > you to tears? The movie was a box office flop when it was first released. As much as I love old movies, this is one that I CAN miss each Christmas, though it's hard to beat any film with J. Stewart in the lead. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:33:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAXH7w024253 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:33:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A82BAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:11:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:11:46 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3BkB08923 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:11:46 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:11:41 PST Message-ID: <20031218031141.57530.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:11:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > > This date was extremely difficult to arrive at, > there are so many > > people involved. > > Polygamists, eh? Mormons? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:39:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAde7w024361 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002200C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:20 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f3.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI3IKB09431 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:18:15 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.175 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:18:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.175] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Movie report Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:18:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2003 03:18:15.0111 (UTC) FILETIME=[93336570:01C3C515] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The movie was great - much better than Two Towers, imo. It kept me interested and I hate long movies. Sure to please somewhat Tolkien geeks. There was some clapping and general cheering at the beginning and end, after key fights etc. I understand clapping at live events but don't get it in movies. Viggo Mortensen is a hottie. Gotta get to NZ soon. _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:39:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAdr7w024364 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:39:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002200FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:33 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3IXB09441 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:33 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:18:28 PST Message-ID: <20031218031828.3402.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:18:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy dancing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217144034.00b366d8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 12:16 PM 12/17/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > >How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all > this?? > > > >http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm > > Samuel Johnson lives... Call a dog Hervey? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:43:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAhC7w024412 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:43:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:21:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:21:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f5.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI3LqB09674 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:21:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:10:08 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.175 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:10:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.175] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:10:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2003 03:10:08.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[716C0BF0:01C3C514] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So is your point that I'm lucky not to have had need for these things? > I can't imagine all of sudden when having need for medication to be >expected on my own to acquire the knowledge of medicines that doctors >and pharmacists spend years acquiring. (a) No kids (b) No allergies, relatively good health (c) No interest I'm with you on one and two but have a moderate geek interest in new science and that includes advances in medicine, esp. the techie aspects. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:47:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAla7w024475 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:47:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:26:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f31.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.31]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI3QGB09957 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:26:16 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:26:11 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.175 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:26:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.175] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:26:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2003 03:26:11.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEF303A0:01C3C516] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" (love the >name) hand cream at Restoration Hardware. Ohmigawd, Marie's posting yuppie! (Is that the word I'm looking for?) RH rings all sorts of bells for me, can't put my finger on the precise word... _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work — and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:48:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAm67w024480 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:48:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82BBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:26:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:26:47 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3QlB09991 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:26:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:26:41 PST Message-ID: <20031218032641.33670.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:26:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: He > had to have gall bladder surgery this past summer. > By the time they > decided what was wrong with him, they had him > whacked out on pain > medication. It was up to her to give permission for > the surgery. The > doctor didn't allow her to go home and google on it > before making a > decision. She was distressed. It is my experience that doctors loathe being second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of informed queries. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:49:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAnH7w024495 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:49:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:27:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:27:57 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3RvB10067 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:27:57 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:27:52 PST Message-ID: <20031218032752.33906.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:27:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happier than a pig in... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <2310308196.20031217191001@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Someone I know told me that a friend of hers was > looking to give her > yarn to a good home. So I went and picked it up > today. About 50 cones > of wool, 20 skeins, plus a half-dozen cones of > linen. Woohoo! I could > never afford all of this! It's like Christmas! Any designs come to mind immediately? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:54:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAsB7w024572 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:54:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:32:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 254023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:32:51 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3WpB10479 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:32:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:32:45 PST Message-ID: <20031218033246.37431.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217182243.047ffe38@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: And other things, like > formula instead of > breastmilk, cereal at two weeks, etc. Cereal at two weeks?? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 04:57:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHAvc7w024637 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:57:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A82BEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:36:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 254087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:36:18 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI3aIB10773 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:36:18 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:36:13 PST Message-ID: <20031218033613.53852.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:36:13 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Movie report To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > Viggo Mortensen is a hottie. Anyone called "Viggo" has GOT to be a hottie, in self-defense. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 05:38:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHBc17w025301 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:38:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A82E56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI4GeB16420 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBI4GYrm025930 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:16:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:17:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <395160470.20031217221716@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: OK Betty -- Fest Page Beta In-Reply-To: <20031218031141.57530.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031218031141.57530.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- mene tekel parsin > wrote: >> > This date was extremely difficult to arrive at, >> there are so many >> > people involved. >> >> Polygamists, eh? > Mormons? No, that's my sister. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 05:39:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHBdd7w025325 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:39:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82E47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:18:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:18:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI4IIB16568 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:18:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBI4IF6X002578 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:18:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1076026386.20031217221858@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <20031218032641.33670.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031218032641.33670.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, December 17, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > It is my experience that doctors loathe being > second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of > informed queries. Then I think you have chosen your doctors unwisely. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 05:58:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHBwj7w025732 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:58:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A82E91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:37:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:37:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI4bPB18352 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:37:25 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBI4bO2f030932 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:37:24 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBI4bMJC030917; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:37:23 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031217203937.00ac9750@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:40:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Christmas cards In-Reply-To: <20031218030808.29005.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <00ce01c3c4cc$f8e2ee20$529a1840@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:08 PM 12/17/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >My maternal grandmother and her circle of friends >settled on one beautiful, lacy card of Gibson Girl >vintage that they mailed back and forth between them >each Christmas. No one knew who would get it next. >It went this way through the mail for 36 years, before >it finally gave up the ghost. They took great >pleasure in this little custom, and I remember my >grandmother giggling like a young girl when it came to >her. I guess it seems pretty silly these days, but >things like that amused them tremendously. I did that for a while. It was fun. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 06:00:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHC0G7w025784 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:00:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A82EAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:38:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:38:56 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI4ctB18447 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:38:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBI4csW1013246 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:38:54 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBI4crWq013226; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:38:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031217204107.00adfd70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:41:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AE@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:46 AM 12/17/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >That's what happened when KK first opened here. Krispy Kreme? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 08:51:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHEp17w028553 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:51:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8321B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:29:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:29:39 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7JdB06171 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:19:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 44714 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:19:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:19:37 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031218071937.GA42877@words-l.org> References: <200312161254.hBGCsLk21582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312161254.hBGCsLk21582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:54:21AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > > >On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> I've posed this before: > >> > >> What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med > >> school? > >> "Doctor" > > > >This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. > >I won't think about doctors the same way again. > > What way did you think of them before? I don't remember. Some really boring and unclever way, I guess. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 08:52:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHEqn7w028586 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:52:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83225@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:31:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:31:27 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7LQB06322 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:21:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 45779 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:21:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:21:25 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Message-ID: <20031218072125.GB42877@words-l.org> References: <20031216074121.GA62201@words-l.org> <20031216132330.60232.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031216132330.60232.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:30AM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Oh, my mind must have been jarling back to the glory > > days of words-l ... The golden age of stupid > > ambiguous > > insinuation as a tool to repress self-doubt and > > boost > > self-esteem. > > Dear, nostalgic Hog. You have made a valiant effort. > I'm glad you are a traditionalist. I feel a strange > kinship with you. :-] Ayup. 'Tis true. Moi aussi. YaY. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 08:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHEsW7w028610 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:54:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002206AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:33:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:33:11 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7NBB06427 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:23:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 46677 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:23:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:23:09 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031218072309.GC42877@words-l.org> References: <200312161254.hBGCsLk21582@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FDF12D0.9080008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FDF12D0.9080008@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 08:12:32AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > >wrote: > > > >>On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > >> > >>>I've posed this before: > >>> > >>>What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med > >>>school? > >>>"Doctor" > >> > >>This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. > >>I won't think about doctors the same way again. > > > >What way did you think of them before? > > Has Tushar been absent so often lately that people have forgotten Who He > Is? I am amused by these responses to his comments. This service is not for your personal amusement. I am disappointed by your cavalier attitude. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 08:57:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHEvY7w028636 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:57:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83247@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:36:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:36:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7QDB06756 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:26:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 48520 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:26:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:26:11 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031218072611.GD42877@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77990@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77990@EXCHSRVR1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:09:55AM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:59:28PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > > > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#1: "it's tin-eye-tus" > > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#2: "tin-eh-tus" > > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#3: "it's tin-eye-tus" > > > ... > > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eye-tus?" MD#n: "tin-eh-tus" > > > you: "Can you tell me about tin-eh-tus?" MD#n+1: "it's tin-eye-tus" > > > > Let me guess--n is an even number. > > It's not a math quiz so you can put your shoes back on. But numbers are all I've got. Don't take them away from me! > > How so? Nurses didn't pass at the bottom of the class in med school. > > For assume that they did; then you'd be calling them "doctor". The > > contradiction in the syllogism reduces to an absurdity, thus > > completing the demonstration. > > Once again, you're reading too deeply into it. > > As far as nurses go, I still prefer having them walk up if I was the first > one at an accident scene (and probably would today) than a physician. > Nurses see things daily a doctor might have seen once (if they were lucky) > during a quick rotation as a resident. Ah, I stand corrected! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 08:59:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHExF7w028653 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:59:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83259@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:37:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:37:53 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7RqB06872 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:27:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 49415 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:27:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:27:51 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Saddam coverage Message-ID: <20031218072751.GE42877@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77993@EXCHSRVR1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B77993@EXCHSRVR1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:27:46AM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > From: Diegetic Mutant Hog [mailto:whore@WORDS-L.ORG] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:41 AM > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:31:17PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You sound indignant. > > > > > > > > And that just makes you mad! > > > > > > Sweet, perspicacious Hog. I type three words, and he > > > knows my mind. Or maybe he knows my mind because he's > > > read my posts. Pray continue. Why should I be mad? > > > > Oh, my mind must have been jarling back to the glory > > days of words-l ... The golden age of stupid ambiguous > > insinuation as a tool to repress self-doubt and boost > > self-esteem. > > You mean I missed it? Damn. Wait a minute. I left mid '92 and > don't remember seeing you here then. With all the excessive newspaper-reading and juggling, who'd expect you to? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:02:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHF247w028698 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:02:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83260@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:40:43 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7UgB07135 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:30:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 51555 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:30:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:30:41 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Childproofing Message-ID: <20031218073041.GF42877@words-l.org> References: <1581564956.20031215222420@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 10:09:42AM -0800, Bookrat wrote: > At 11:45 PM -0800 12/15/03, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:04:23PM -0800, Bookrat wrote: > >> No matter what the parents do, by the time the child is ten she will > >> 0wnzzor that machine. Computer security is better understood as a > >> process of buying time than a process of creating safety. > > > >I see that "computer security" is the new hip slang for "windows > >security". Where did it originate? > > Oh, yeah, right. Like no one could H4xX0r your Solaris beasties, with a > little time and patience. Riiiiight. I do apologize ... By the time a child is ten she will equally ably 0w1nzz0r a Solaris machine. Yes, buying time is all it amounts to. Sad, really. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:04:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHF4B7w028736 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:04:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8326C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:42:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:42:49 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7WmB07359 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:32:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 52795 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:32:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:32:47 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <20031218073247.GG42877@words-l.org> References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:39:00PM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Bethany K. Dumas writes, > > >Actually, I think it is a circle with an R in it. > > Didacticism r00lz! I can't believe this horrendous flame came out your keyboard. Are you feling OK? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:07:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHF7J7w028800 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:07:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8326A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:45:58 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7ZvB07732 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:35:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 54662 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:35:56 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:35:56 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <20031218073556.GH42877@words-l.org> References: <200312121710.hBCHAJd31601@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1186663542.20031212213552@WordWrite.com> <10610176131.20031213105300@WordWrite.com> <1014949930.20031213171643@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031216125937.043fe7f0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:59:50PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >I'm compelled to expand your explanation by quoting 15 USC 1111: "... the > >words 'Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office' or 'Reg. U.S. Pat. & > >Tm. Off.' or the letter R enclosed within a circle...." > > How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily > postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! Here they are: 1 Ayeh 2 'Tis true 3 But of course 4 Forsooth 5 Perzackly 6 Indeed From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:10:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFAF7w028870 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:10:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002206F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:48:46 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7ckB08292 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:38:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 56135 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:38:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:38:44 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031218073844.GI42877@words-l.org> References: <4.2.2.20031216190706.00a9ca50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031216190706.00a9ca50@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:07:23PM -0800, Betty wrote: > At 02:27 AM 12/17/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the > >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous > >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. > >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the > >other day. > > > >I'm very scared ... > > Go. Enjoy. Thanks for this robust solution to Rashmi's unnecessarily complex problem! If only more people just goed and enjoyed! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:11:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFBq7w028906 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:11:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00220701@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:50:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:50:30 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7eUB08567 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:40:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 57211 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:40:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:40:29 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again Message-ID: <20031218074029.GJ42877@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:12:26AM -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > "In the second drawer I keep all my beads. Oh, how I love toplay with > beads - all kinds of beads." -King Kaspar explaining what's in his "box" > to Amahl LOL.:) That's why we call you our sweet polenta! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:15:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFFX7w028976 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:15:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83274@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:54:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:54:11 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7iBB09182 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:44:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 59184 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:44:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:44:10 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031218074410.GK42877@words-l.org> References: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:42:21AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:15 -0500, Adam Hartfield > wrote: > > >> You have to get into the Hobbitt. > > > >I tried to read it several times when I was a kidlet. It bored me something > >fierce each time. > > > >--Adam > > Reading the Hobbit as a kidlet is an error, imho. My daughter also tried, > and is allergic to Tolkien as a result. It's like an innoculation against > understanding the truly adult breadth of the story. I dislike this equation of children with slow humans. It's almost as denigrating as calling Britney Spears a triviality. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:20:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFK07w029079 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:20:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83281@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:58:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:58:38 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7mcB09934 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:48:38 -0500 Received: (qmail 61892 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:48:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:48:37 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again Message-ID: <20031218074837.GL42877@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217074906.043e6ea8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217074906.043e6ea8@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:03:42AM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > An orchidometer, sometimes called "medical worry beads," is a calibrated > set of ellipsoid beads of graduated sizes, used to compare with boys' > testicles for diagnostic purposes. Here's a picture: > http://www.health-for-all-children.co.uk/acatalog/Orchidometer.JPG > > It seems a useful device whose purpose I wouldn't have guessed from seeing > it. You could have asked Natalie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:20:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFKs7w029096 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:20:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83298@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 2:59:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:59:32 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7nVB10054 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:49:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 62399 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:49:30 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:49:30 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Home Again Message-ID: <20031218074930.GM42877@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:06:51AM -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > I wonder why some are blue No you don't. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:24:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFOm7w029135 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:24:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A832AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:03:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:03:26 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7rQB10306 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:53:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 64558 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:53:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:53:24 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <20031218075324.GN42877@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:37:28PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" > > Great. Of course we should write No-Crack Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off. Forsooth. 'Tis passing wondrous. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:25:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFPc7w029142 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:25:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83295@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:04:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:04:16 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7sFB10341 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:54:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 64994 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:54:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:54:13 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <20031218075413.GO42877@words-l.org> References: <10938a104524.10452410938a@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10938a104524.10452410938a@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:49:35PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: "Bethany K. Dumas" > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" > > > > Great. Of course we should write No-Crack Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off. > > Truth is the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula hand cream works better. You are snorting Neutrogena? That's messed up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:29:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFTH7w029207 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:29:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A832B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:07:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269074 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:07:55 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI7vrB10622 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:57:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 67180 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 07:57:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:57:49 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors Message-ID: <20031218075749.GP42877@words-l.org> References: <10b077103e35.103e3510b077@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10b077103e35.103e3510b077@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:50:41PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > I don't remember whether it identified its geographical location. Its > > name was something like Rush Medical School. > > It's in Chicago. I don't think of it as . If I recall right, it's called Rush Presbyterian School. You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school about an old people's eyesight problem? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:32:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFWU7w029272 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:32:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A832BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:11:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:11:08 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI818B11016 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:01:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 69341 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:01:02 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:01:02 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy dancing Message-ID: <20031218080102.GQ42877@words-l.org> References: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217144034.00b366d8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217144034.00b366d8@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:40:52PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 12:16 PM 12/17/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > >How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all this?? > > > >http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm > > Samuel Johnson lives... Ayeh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:38:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFcn7w029384 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:38:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A832DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:17:28 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI87QB11565 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:07:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 73134 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:07:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:07:25 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Doggy dancing Message-ID: <20031218080725.GR42877@words-l.org> References: <10a0bf1066e1.1066e110a0bf@optonline.net> <20031218025856.40270.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218025856.40270.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:58:56PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > > How on *earth* does one train their dog to do all > > this?? > > > > http://www.henry.martinez.net/videos/14thplace.htm > > > > Marie > > I believe, a basic understanding of the canine's > profound instinct to please, love, patience, and gobs > of spare time. Really cool, Marie! Manipulative bitchness almost sounds cool now! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:39:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFdm7w029401 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:39:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A832CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:18:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:18:27 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI88QB11641 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:08:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 73701 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:08:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:08:24 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad Message-ID: <20031218080824.GS42877@words-l.org> References: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:10:55PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > The movie was a box office flop when it was first > released. As much as I love old movies, this is one > that I CAN miss each Christmas, though it's hard to > beat any film with J. Stewart in the lead. Have you tried Boogie Nights? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:42:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFg27w029446 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:42:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A832D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:20:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:20:40 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI8AeB11833 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:10:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 75073 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:10:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:10:38 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Movie report Message-ID: <20031218081038.GT42877@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:18:14AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I understand clapping at live events but don't get it in movies. Screw your east coast snobbishness man! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:43:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFhr7w029503 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:43:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A832EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:22:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:22:31 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI8CVB12034 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:12:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 76033 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:12:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:12:29 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031218081229.GU42877@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> <20031218032641.33670.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218032641.33670.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:26:41PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > It is my experience that doctors loathe being > second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of > informed queries. Down with Dean! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:45:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFj17w029543 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:45:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022074C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:23:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:23:39 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI8DdB12274 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:13:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 76634 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:13:38 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:13:38 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031218081338.GV42877@words-l.org> References: <77181E93BA2AD41187650090279C18A003B779AE@EXCHSRVR1> <4.2.2.20031217204107.00adfd70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031217204107.00adfd70@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:41:36PM -0800, Betty wrote: > At 10:46 AM 12/17/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >That's what happened when KK first opened here. > > Krispy Kreme? Yes. Festive. Go. Enjoy. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:46:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFkO7w029555 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:46:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A832FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:25:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:25:03 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBI8F3B12395 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:15:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 77701 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 08:15:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:15:00 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Message-ID: <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:37:36PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > This is really impressive and interesting. I wish I > had the time and intellect to pursue the evolution of > languages. I am barely literate in English. > > Do you think the king might come? That sounds like a "barely literate" type of question all right. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 09:51:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHFpU7w029637 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:51:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A832EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:30:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:30:08 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI8U7B13923 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:30:07 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:32:37 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2SS47; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:32:34 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218092511.0284c2c0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:30:00 +0100 Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217174118.00b55b90@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312171542.hBHFgLd04939@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031217174118.00b55b90@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:44 17.12.2003 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 03:43 PM 12/17/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>Hmmm... I tried in my 20's with the same result. Maybe I'm just >>immature. > >Perhaps, but I don't think it has any bearing on this. ;--> > >I read The Hobbit first. Having now read both many times, I believe that >The Hobbit is best appreciated as a "prequel" after having read the >trilogy. I'm not sure why I believe this (or at the least, I can't >articulate it), but the sense is strong. I read The Hobbit first and that made me interested in LOTR. - which I have read many more times than The Hobbit. It was when I was in high school (gymnasium) I was an assistant at bothanical field work up in the mountains some Dutch women who were also working there had brought along The Hobbit. I borrowed it and then a little later I went with one of them (hitchhiking) to see Amsterdam I bought LOTR there. I got so consumed by it that when I was hitchhiking back to Oslo I often just sat by the road and read if the weather was good. I was 16 then (almost 17) then and of course I read it with slightly different eyes now. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 10:01:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHG1d7w029807 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:01:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83318@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 3:40:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:40:17 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBI8eHB14566 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:40:17 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:42:47 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XLQ2SSX2; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:42:45 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218093941.0284c030@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:40:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up In-Reply-To: <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:37 17.12.2003 -0800 skrev Lynne Weber: >--- Espen Ore wrote: >> Since I have been ill I am behind in this and on >> January 14 we are expecting the minister of research >> and education, probably the Swedish embassador and >> God knows who else to come here and sip some >> sparkling wine and virtually cut the ribbon. > >This is really impressive and interesting. I wish I >had the time and intellect to pursue the evolution of >languages. I am barely literate in English. > >Do you think the king might come? Does Norway have a >king now? Not only a king but also a crown prince - Betty has met him. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 13:53:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHJrV7w001036 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:53:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00220949@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 7:32:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 239711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 07:32:06 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBICW3C16052 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 07:32:03 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBICW2kF002276 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:32:02 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBICW1xY002274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:32:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:32:01 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Message-ID: <20031218123201.GA2215@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog: (about 20 emails all in a row) Bet you're glad to get that out of you system! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:33:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKXa7w001646 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:33:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002209BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:12:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDCBO20144 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:12:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002209C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:12:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181312.hBIDCBO20144@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:12:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:44:11 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 03:43 PM 12/17/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>Hmmm... I tried in my 20's with the same result. Maybe I'm just >>immature. > >Perhaps, but I don't think it has any bearing on this. ;--> > >I read The Hobbit first. Having now read both many times, I believe that >The Hobbit is best appreciated as a "prequel" after having read the >trilogy. I'm not sure why I believe this (or at the least, I can't >articulate it), but the sense is strong. > >cwv I disagree; I think that The Hobbit was written as essentially a children's story (but not with a clear sense of what children understand and appreciate). It has an entirely different rhythm, tone, and level of reasoning and ethics. I also think that once he had gotten into his created world, he started to think about the possibilities of writing a saga that addressed adult mythologies, issues, and passions - probably as a result of discussion with other Inklings. Think "Chronicles of Narnia" compared to "Perelandra". I suppose it would be easy to know by looking at his letters and so on whether this was so, and perhaps I'll find the leisure to check it out - or perhaps someone else here has already done? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:43:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKhL7w001784 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:43:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002209F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:21:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:21:57 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDLvO21019 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:21:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002209BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:21:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181321.hBIDLvO21019@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:21:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:49:52 -0500, Terry Wild wrote: >--On Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:27 PM -0600 Rita Chapman > wrote: > >> Hmm. Yeah. I do tend to be more education about Ana's >> health than I'd bother about with my own. Also, kids tend >> to get more bacterial crap because of being in schools, >> which are germ fests of incredible magnitude. > >I find it imperative to ask questions. In my family, my grandmother walks >in and says she's coughing and expects the doc to tell her what's wrong. >She doesn't ask questions. My parents are a bit better, but when my Mom >had leukemia, I'd come up with all these questions. She took notes and >asked at the next visit. > >I always ask questions and sometimes follow up days later with more >questions. I had a doctor want to prescribe an allergy medicine for me >when my gut (actually head) told me it wasn't right. I never took it, went >and got non-allergy sinus med and was fine. I didn't go back to him. >There is a tendency to over prescribe just to give people the feel good >they are being treated. I try to avoid that any way possible. > >Terry We have developed over time a habit of having an advocate "come with" to any serious Dr's appt. Ahead of time, we brainstorm questions for the Dr. The advocate has the list, and a mandate to act on the patient's concerns: did he/she remember to ask the planned questions? Did the Dr. brush any off or answer too complicatedly? The advocate also takes notes, because it's hard to remember a lot of complicated and scary (in the case of serious illness or injury, which is what this is for) info, esp. when in pain. This has worked extremely well, especially when the patient is on meds that make them dizzy or forgetful. I often urge students who are facing frightening procedures to use this model - take a relative or friend for handholding and to help keep track of questions and answers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:49:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKnG7w001872 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:49:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A835BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:27:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:27:48 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDRmO21626 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:27:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002209D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:27:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181327.hBIDRmO21626@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:27:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:26:41 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- bonniev wrote: > He >> had to have gall bladder surgery this past summer. >> By the time they >> decided what was wrong with him, they had him >> whacked out on pain >> medication. It was up to her to give permission for >> the surgery. The >> doctor didn't allow her to go home and google on it >> before making a >> decision. She was distressed. > >It is my experience that doctors loathe being >second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of >informed queries. > I think it depends on the doctor and the way the questions are asked. We have learned to make that part of our criteria for picking drs. Someone who objects to answering questions is less likely to pick up errors in understanding answers - thereby increasing the likelihood that important directions will not be followed. The worst is the dr. who speaks to the nurse instead of the patient directly, eg: I think she has strep throat. Have her gargle with salt water and - the rest lost as they walk out into the hall together. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:51:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKpb7w001930 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:51:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00220A0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:30:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:30:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDUDO21842 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:30:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002209DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:30:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:30:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:32:45 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Peter Kaminski wrote: > And other things, like >> formula instead of >> breastmilk, cereal at two weeks, etc. > >Cereal at two weeks?? > > Yes, for many years, this was recommended practice, to get the child on semi-solid foods as quickly as possible to increase weight, on the narrow premise that larger children were healthier. Of course it increases the likelihood of allergies and adult obesity, but nobody knew that yet... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:54:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKs27w001970 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:54:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002209E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:32:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:32:28 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDWSO22384 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:32:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A835D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:32:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181332.hBIDWSO22384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:32:28 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:19:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:54:21AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:10:37 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog >> wrote: >> >> >On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: >> >> I've posed this before: >> >> >> >> What do you call someone who finishes at the bottom of their class in med >> >> school? >> >> "Doctor" >> > >> >This just gave me an entirely fresh perspective on life. >> >I won't think about doctors the same way again. >> >> What way did you think of them before? > >I don't remember. Some really boring and unclever way, I guess. It's too be hoped that the new perspective has improved in some parameter beyond freshness, then. If the old one has been wiped away, you're stuck with it now! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:56:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKuO7w002042 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:56:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A835E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:35:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 241964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDZ0O22760 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002209F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:34:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181335.hBIDZ0O22760@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:35:56 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:59:50PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >> >> >I'm compelled to expand your explanation by quoting 15 USC 1111: "... the >> >words 'Registered in U.S. Patent and Trademark Office' or 'Reg. U.S. Pat. & >> >Tm. Off.' or the letter R enclosed within a circle...." >> >> How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily >> postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! > >Here they are: > >1 Ayeh >2 'Tis true >3 But of course >4 Forsooth >5 Perzackly >6 Indeed 7 YaY. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 14:57:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHKvD7w002049 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:57:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002209F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:49 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDZnO22876 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A835E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:35:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181335.hBIDZnO22876@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:35:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:38:44 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:07:23PM -0800, Betty wrote: >> At 02:27 AM 12/17/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the >> >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous >> >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. >> >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the >> >other day. >> > >> >I'm very scared ... >> >> Go. Enjoy. > >Thanks for this robust solution to Rashmi's unnecessarily >complex problem! If only more people just goed and enjoyed! Speaking of which, have you returned to the Green Mill? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:00:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHL057w002132 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:00:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00220A32@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:38:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:38:41 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDcfO23205 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:38:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00220A03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:38:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:38:41 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:44:10 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:42:21AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:57:15 -0500, Adam Hartfield >> wrote: >> >> >> You have to get into the Hobbitt. >> > >> >I tried to read it several times when I was a kidlet. It bored me something >> >fierce each time. >> > >> >--Adam >> >> Reading the Hobbit as a kidlet is an error, imho. My daughter also tried, >> and is allergic to Tolkien as a result. It's like an innoculation against >> understanding the truly adult breadth of the story. > >I dislike this equation of children with slow humans. It's >almost as denigrating as calling Britney Spears a triviality. As much as I enjoy this jibe, I feel compelled by an overly literal nature to point out that we - all of us - rarely return to old assumptions or ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new understanding. This is my primary objection to permitting children to watch Disney. They will go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of Notre Dame". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:01:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHL1x7w002182 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:01:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00220A07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:40:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:40:35 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDeYO23450 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:40:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00220A3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:40:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181340.hBIDeYO23450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:40:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:54:13 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:49:35PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >> From: "Bethany K. Dumas" >> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > >> > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" >> > >> > Great. Of course we should write No-Crack Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off. >> >> Truth is the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula hand cream works better. > >You are snorting Neutrogena? > >That's messed up. That aspect hadn't occurred to me - thanks for the insight! I was still working on "Truth is the Neutrogena Norwegian Formula", a philosophical premise that is both mysterious and compelling. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:03:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHL3m7w002203 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:03:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8360B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:42:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:42:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDgOO23691 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:42:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00220A3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:42:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181342.hBIDgOO23691@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:42:24 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Movie report To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:10:38 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:18:14AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> I understand clapping at live events but don't get it in movies. > >Screw your east coast snobbishness man! LOL! As a followup question, what do you suppose is the division between those who snap their fingers in praise of a poem, and those who do so in derision? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:08:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHL8c7w002298 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:08:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83677@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:47:14 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDlEO25212 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:47:14 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ3005RMFKK52@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:41:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:41:30 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <1635de161859.1618591635de@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Rashmi Murthy > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" > (love the > >name) hand cream at Restoration Hardware. > > Ohmigawd, Marie's posting yuppie! (Is that the word I'm looking for?) > RH rings all sorts of bells for me, can't put my finger on the precise > word... Bobo? Actually I have a friend out in CA who is a buyer for RH, so we get all kinds of coupons. Does that help? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:17:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHLHl7w002550 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:17:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00220AC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:56:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:56:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDkMO25126 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:46:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBIDixDG004624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:45:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new understanding. This >is my primary objection to permitting children to watch Disney. They will >go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of >Notre Dame". Which no Dumas would have done! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:19:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHLJ47w002567 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:19:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A836B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 8:57:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:57:40 -0500 Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIDveO26656 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:57:40 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ3004ZVG43RO@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:53:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:53:14 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <175a7a173f3c.173f3c175a7a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Diegetic Mutant Hog > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:50:41PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > > I don't remember whether it identified its geographical > location. Its > > > name was something like Rush Medical School. > > > > It's in Chicago. I don't think of it as . > > If I recall right, it's called Rush Presbyterian School. Actually it's Rush Medical College, Rush University. The hospital is Rush Presbyterian-St. Luke's. > You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school > about an old people's eyesight problem? ???? It was named after Benjamin Rush who was a Philadelphia physician and signer of the Declaration of Independence. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:23:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHLNj7w002625 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:23:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A836C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:02:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:02:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIE2LO27611 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:02:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00220AEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:02:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181402.hBIE2LO27611@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:02:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:53:14 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >From: Diegetic Mutant Hog >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:50:41PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > > I don't remember whether it identified its geographical >> location. Its >> > > name was something like Rush Medical School. >> > >> > It's in Chicago. I don't think of it as . >> >> If I recall right, it's called Rush Presbyterian School. > >Actually it's Rush Medical College, Rush University. The hospital is Rush Presbyterian-St. Luke's. > >> You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school >> about an old people's eyesight problem? > >???? It was named after Benjamin Rush who was a Philadelphia physician and >signer of the Declaration of Independence. > >Marie I once dated a Presbyopian, I think - clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 15:27:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHLRT7w002666 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:27:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A836E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:06:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 244515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:06:04 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIE64O28340 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:06:04 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ300496GHVNX@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:01:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:01:31 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <166a3016d127.16d127166a30@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >> You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school > >> about an old people's eyesight problem? > > > >???? It was named after Benjamin Rush who was a Philadelphia > physician and > >signer of the Declaration of Independence. > > > >Marie > > I once dated a Presbyopian, I think - How lame. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 16:04:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHM447w003197 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:04:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A837FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:42:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 247040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:42:39 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIEgdO02664 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:42:39 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-152.gwi.net [216.195.151.152]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBIEgX5B078928; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:42:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218092617.00b1d190@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:31:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <20031218032641.33670.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:26 PM 12/17/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >It is my experience that doctors loathe being >second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of >informed queries. Second-guessed, perhaps, but my experience has been that all but a very few doctors have been very open to informed questions. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 16:14:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHMEO7w003345 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:14:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8385F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 9:53:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 248005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:53:00 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIEqxO04523 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:53:00 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ300AQGINJVT@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:48:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:48:06 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <171ad3172ca3.172ca3171ad3@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > At 07:26 PM 12/17/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >It is my experience that doctors loathe being > >second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of > >informed queries. > > Second-guessed, perhaps, but my experience has been that all but a > very few doctors have been very open to informed questions. I agree with this assessment. Maybe it's a matter of , Lynne. Asking informed questions and with informed queries sound different to me. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 16:29:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHMTi7w003612 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:29:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A838EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:08:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:08:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIF8JO07820 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:08:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00220CB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:08:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181508.hBIF8JO07820@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:08:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:01:31 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: >> >> You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school >> >> about an old people's eyesight problem? >> > >> >???? It was named after Benjamin Rush who was a Philadelphia >> physician and >> >signer of the Declaration of Independence. >> > >> >Marie >> >> I once dated a Presbyopian, I think - > >How lame. No no, visionary. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 16:35:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHMZI7w003703 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:35:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00220D10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:13:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 249647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:13:53 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIFDrO08792 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:13:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218151338.VTTR17885.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:13:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE1C422.6020005@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:13:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Guber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't realize until watching "Silence of the Lambs" last night for the first time since the first time I watched it (which means, I guess, for the second time) that Guber was in it -- and that that wonderful last line by Hannibal on the telephone about having an old friend for dinner was about Guber! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 17:28:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHNSc7w005563 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:28:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00220F42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:07:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 254053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:07:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIG7CO18761 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:07:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIG7BeO002452 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:07:11 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIG7Aa2002431; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:07:10 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218080039.00b82ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:01:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up In-Reply-To: <20031218123201.GA2215@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:32 PM 12/18/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Diegetic Mutant Hog: > >(about 20 emails all in a row) > >Bet you're glad to get that out of you system! Colonic. I thought that we had been spammed but then I'm sitting here laughing out loud. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 17:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHNZM7w005872 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:35:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83B01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:13:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 254461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:13:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:2LvBmnNC/l1blo7dpzphGlF0lcr65YHv@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGDvO19480 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:13:57 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854F82FDFA for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8D92334A for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:13:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200312181335.hBIDZ0O22760@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:13:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 5:35 AM -0800 12/18/03, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:35:56 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog >wrote: >>On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:59:50PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>> How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily >>> postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! >> >>Here they are: >> >>1 Ayeh >>2 'Tis true >>3 But of course >>4 Forsooth >>5 Perzackly >>6 Indeed > >7 YaY. 8 Uh huh Ken Miller Kay School of Expression From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 17:58:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBHNwT7w006887 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:58:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83C00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:37:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 255839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:37:04 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGR4O22275 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:27:04 -0500 Received: (qmail 70802 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:27:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:27:03 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Message-ID: <20031218162703.GA66423@words-l.org> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> <20031218123201.GA2215@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218123201.GA2215@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:01PM +0100, steph wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog: > > (about 20 emails all in a row) > > Bet you're glad to get that out of you system! Ayeh, twas a trifle, and most chirurgeonly. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:03:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0347w007148 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:03:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83C21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:39 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGV7O22822 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:31:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 73740 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:31:07 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:31:07 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031218163107.GB66423@words-l.org> References: <200312181335.hBIDZnO22876@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312181335.hBIDZnO22876@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:35:48AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:07:23PM -0800, Betty wrote: > >> At 02:27 AM 12/17/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the > >> >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous > >> >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. > >> >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the > >> >other day. > >> > > >> >I'm very scared ... > >> > >> Go. Enjoy. > > > >Thanks for this robust solution to Rashmi's unnecessarily > >complex problem! If only more people just goed and enjoyed! > > Speaking of which, have you returned to the Green Mill? Ayeh, and cut a caper like a wild morisco. Twas passing fantastical. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0497w007192 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:04:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00221061@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:42:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:42:44 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGW5O22940 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:32:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 74212 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:32:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:32:04 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031218163204.GC66423@words-l.org> References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:38:41AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > As much as I enjoy this jibe, I feel compelled by an overly literal nature > to point out that we - all of us - rarely return to old assumptions or > ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new understanding. This > is my primary objection to permitting children to watch Disney. They will > go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of > Notre Dame". We certainly can't have that! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:04:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0497w007193 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:04:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83C09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:42:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:42:44 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGWfO23073 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:32:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 74513 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:32:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:32:40 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Movie report Message-ID: <20031218163240.GD66423@words-l.org> References: <200312181342.hBIDgOO23691@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312181342.hBIDgOO23691@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:42:24AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:10:38 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > > >On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:18:14AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> I understand clapping at live events but don't get it in movies. > > > >Screw your east coast snobbishness man! > > LOL! As a followup question, what do you suppose is the division > between those who snap their fingers in praise of a poem, and > those who do so in derision? I don't know. Carpal tunnel maybe? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:05:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI05D7w007252 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:05:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83C37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:43:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:43:09 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGX9O23132 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:33:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 74754 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:33:08 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:33:08 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <20031218163308.GE66423@words-l.org> References: <1635de161859.1618591635de@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1635de161859.1618591635de@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:41:30AM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Rashmi Murthy > > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" > > (love the > > >name) hand cream at Restoration Hardware. > > > > Ohmigawd, Marie's posting yuppie! (Is that the word I'm looking for?) > > RH rings all sorts of bells for me, can't put my finger on the precise > > word... > > Bobo? > > Actually I have a friend out in CA who is a buyer for RH, so we get all > kinds of coupons. Does that help? Brilliant save! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:05:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI05c7w007281 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:05:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83C3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:44:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:44:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGYDO23262 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:34:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 75341 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:34:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:34:12 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031218163412.GF66423@words-l.org> References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:46:20AM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new understanding. This > >is my primary objection to permitting children to watch Disney. They will > >go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of > >Notre Dame". > > Which no Dumas would have done! Really? Even I can think of a pretty happy ending: The Hunchback of Notre Dame® From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:07:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI07H7w007349 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:07:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83C51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:45:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:45:52 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGZpO23775 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:35:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 76675 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:35:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:35:51 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors Message-ID: <20031218163551.GG66423@words-l.org> References: <175a7a173f3c.173f3c175a7a@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <175a7a173f3c.173f3c175a7a@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:53:14AM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Diegetic Mutant Hog > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:50:41PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > I don't remember whether it identified its geographical > > location. Its > > > > name was something like Rush Medical School. > > > > > > It's in Chicago. I don't think of it as . > > > > If I recall right, it's called Rush Presbyterian School. > > Actually it's Rush Medical College, Rush University. The hospital is Rush > Presbyterian-St. Luke's. > > > You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school > > about an old people's eyesight problem? > > ???? It was named after Benjamin Rush who was a Philadelphia physician and > signer of the Declaration of Independence. Marie, Marie. That's what they told you on the Disney channel when you were a child. Have you tried rechecking? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:08:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI08o7w007457 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:08:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022105C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:25 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGbPO24124 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:37:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 77514 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:37:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:37:24 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors Message-ID: <20031218163723.GH66423@words-l.org> References: <166a3016d127.16d127166a30@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <166a3016d127.16d127166a30@optonline.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:01:31AM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > > >> You don't find something phoney about a whole medical school > > >> about an old people's eyesight problem? > > > > > >???? It was named after Benjamin Rush who was a Philadelphia > > >physician and signer of the Declaration of Independence. > > > > I once dated a Presbyopian, I think - > > How lame. Please, player hating diminishes all of us. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:09:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI09F7w007488 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:09:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83C48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:47:50 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGbnO24206 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:37:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 77768 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:37:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:37:49 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? Message-ID: <20031218163749.GI66423@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031217191834.02b3a8c0@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218092617.00b1d190@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218092617.00b1d190@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:31:39AM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 07:26 PM 12/17/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > >It is my experience that doctors loathe being > >second-guessed, or questioned with any kind of > >informed queries. > > Second-guessed, perhaps, but my experience has been that all but a very few > doctors have been very open to informed questions. Indeed. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:10:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0AH7w007539 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:10:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002210A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:48:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 257006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:48:51 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGcjO24368 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:38:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 78233 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:38:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:38:45 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Message-ID: <20031218163845.GJ66423@words-l.org> References: <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> <5.1.1.5.2.20031218080039.00b82ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218080039.00b82ea0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:01:46AM -0800, Betty Clark wrote: > At 01:32 PM 12/18/2003 +0100, steph wrote: > >Diegetic Mutant Hog: > > > >(about 20 emails all in a row) > > > >Bet you're glad to get that out of you system! > > Colonic. HA!!!!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:11:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0B47w007576 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:11:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83C6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 257033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:49:38 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIGdDO24429 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:39:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 78505 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Dec 2003 16:39:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:39:12 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Message-ID: <20031218163912.GK66423@words-l.org> References: <200312181335.hBIDZ0O22760@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:13:45AM -0800, Bookrat wrote: > At 5:35 AM -0800 12/18/03, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:35:56 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > >wrote: > >>On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:59:50PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >>> How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so words to many of our daily > >>> postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! Thanks! > >> > >>Here they are: > >> > >>1 Ayeh > >>2 'Tis true > >>3 But of course > >>4 Forsooth > >>5 Perzackly > >>6 Indeed > > > >7 YaY. > > 8 Uh huh Heyyyyy Makarena! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:12:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0Cp7w007652 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:12:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83C6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 257897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:51:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGpPO26210 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:51:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIGoIKX026528 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:50:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:52:06 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11510501428.20031218105206@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Home Again In-Reply-To: <20031218074029.GJ42877@words-l.org> References: <20031218074029.GJ42877@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:12:26AM -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> "In the second drawer I keep all my beads. Oh, how I love toplay with >> beads - all kinds of beads." -King Kaspar explaining what's in his "box" >> to Amahl > LOL.:) > That's why we call you our sweet polenta! Ahem! He is *My* Sweet Polenta. Find your own, bucko! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0HA7w007878 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:17:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83CB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:55:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:55:42 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGtgO27010 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:55:42 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ300CVGO9OOD@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.139] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:49:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:49:22 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Home Again To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <191dd81935df.1935df191dd8@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:12:26AM -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> "In the second drawer I keep all my beads. Oh, how I love > toplay with > >> beads - all kinds of beads." -King Kaspar explaining what's > in his "box" > >> to Amahl > > > LOL.:) > > > That's why we call you our sweet polenta! > > Ahem! He is *My* Sweet Polenta. Find your own, bucko! Me! Me! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0SZ7w008371 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83CAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:08 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGv8O27260 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:08 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIGv36X011250 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:57:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:57:49 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <842174558.20031218105749@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Home Again In-Reply-To: <191dd81935df.1935df191dd8@optonline.net> References: <191dd81935df.1935df191dd8@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Karen Kay >> On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:12:26AM -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >> >> "In the second drawer I keep all my beads. Oh, how I love >> toplay with >> >> beads - all kinds of beads." -King Kaspar explaining what's >> in his "box" >> >> to Amahl >> >> > LOL.:) >> >> > That's why we call you our sweet polenta! >> >> Ahem! He is *My* Sweet Polenta. Find your own, bucko! > Me! Me! Can one be a Mareeber and a Sweet Polenta simultaneously? 'Tis a puzzlement! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0SZ7w008373 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83CF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:06:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:06:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIH6mO28753 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:06:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022111D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:06:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181706.hBIH6mO28753@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:06:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:31:07 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:35:48AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:07:23PM -0800, Betty wrote: >> >> At 02:27 AM 12/17/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >> >A bunch of us are going to the 11 am screening tomorrow of the >> >> >new LOTR movie. Everyone but me has read the trilogy numerous >> >> >times, seen the first two movies the week they were released etc. >> >> >I've read -The Hobbit- and caught The Two Towers on DVD the >> >> >other day. >> >> > >> >> >I'm very scared ... >> >> >> >> Go. Enjoy. >> > >> >Thanks for this robust solution to Rashmi's unnecessarily >> >complex problem! If only more people just goed and enjoyed! >> >> Speaking of which, have you returned to the Green Mill? > >Ayeh, and cut a caper like a wild morisco. Twas passing fantastical. Would that I had accompanied thee! 'Twould have been a treat to behold. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0SZ7w008372 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83CC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:59:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:59:06 -0500 Received: from mail41.fg.online.no (mail41-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGx6O27586 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:59:06 -0500 Received: from espeno-latt.nb.no (ti211310a080-2935.bb.online.no [80.212.75.119]) by mail41.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12761 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:58:58 +0100 (CET) X-no-archive: yes X-homepage: www.nb.no Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218180141.024f1830@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <20031218163204.GC66423@words-l.org> References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031218163204.GC66423@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:32 18.12.2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev: >On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:38:41AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > As much as I enjoy this jibe, I feel compelled by an overly literal nature > > to point out that we - all of us - rarely return to old assumptions or > > ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new understanding. This > > is my primary objection to permitting children to watch Disney. They will > > go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of > > Notre Dame". > >We certainly can't have that! Why should Dumas write an ending to a book by Hugo? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:28:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0Sh7w008387 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002210DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:16 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.64.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGvGO27283 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:16 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HQ3O4V03.88X for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:50:55 -0700 From: "John Williams" To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:50:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Re: I Don't Understand X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:51 pm Subject: I Don't Understand > I have CBS news on my tiny electric teevee right now and heard Dan > Rather say something a little while ago like, "The capture of Saddam > doesn't seem to have changed Howard Dean's position on the war." I > found that a dopey statement. Consider the source. > But what does finding him have > to do with the illegal war? Simple. If the war is illegal then the only proper thing to do is to restore Saddam to power. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:28:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0Sj7w008390 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:28:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83D08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:07:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 258456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:07:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIGvJO27297 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBIGtwDG012656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:55:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <20031218163412.GF66423@words-l.org> Message-ID: References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031218163412.GF66423@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=unknown-8bit X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBIGvJO27298 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of >> >Notre Dame". >> >> Which no Dumas would have done! > >Really? Even I can think of a pretty happy ending: >The Hunchback of Notre Dame® ? ("Think of" does not equal "write.") Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:31:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0VY7w008539 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:31:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83D19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:10:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:10:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIHA7O29326 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:10:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00221131@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:09:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181710.hBIHA7O29326@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:09:20 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:02:06 +0100, Espen S. Ore wrote: >At 10:32 18.12.2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog skrev: >>On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:38:41AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > As much as I enjoy this jibe, I feel compelled by an overly literal nature >> > to point out that we - all of us - rarely return to old assumptions or >> > ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new understanding. This >> > is my primary objection to permitting children to watch Disney. They will >> > go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of >> > Notre Dame". >> >>We certainly can't have that! > >Why should Dumas write an ending to a book by Hugo? > >Espen Thank you. My point perzackly. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:31:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0Vs7w008555 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:31:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022112E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:09:42 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIH9fO29213 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:09:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIH8aKX014687 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:08:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:10:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1364105534.20031218111025@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031218163412.GF66423@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>> >go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of >>> >Notre Dame". >>> >>> Which no Dumas would have done! >> >>Really? Even I can think of a pretty happy ending: >>The Hunchback of Notre Dame® > ? > ("Think of" does not equal "write.")® > Bethany Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:44:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0iR7w009093 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:44:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83D96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:23:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:23:02 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIHN1O31595 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:23:01 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031218172255014008terpe>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:22:55 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218091326.04327710@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:25:04 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes, >Yes, for many years, this was recommended practice, to get the child on >semi-solid foods as quickly as possible to increase weight, on the narrow >premise that larger children were healthier. Whee! Luckily for me, this was contemporaneous with the medical judgement that smoking during pregnancy was just fine. To be fair to my mom, she was a first-time mother, living a thousand miles away from her family, and she was probably worried that I wasn't eating enough formula... Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 18:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI0mV7w009346 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 18:48:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83DB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:27:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 259852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:27:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIHH5O30207 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:17:05 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBIHFiDG021585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:15:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert In-Reply-To: <1364105534.20031218111025@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031218163412.GF66423@words-l.org> <1364105534.20031218111025@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBIHH5O30208 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>>> >go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy ending to "Hunchback of >>>> >Notre Dame". >>>> > >>>> Which no Dumas would have done! >>> >>>Really? Even I can think of a pretty happy ending: >>>The Hunchback of Notre Dame® > >> ? > >> ("Think of" does not equal "write.")® > >> Bethany > > > >Karen > ??? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:04:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI14p7w010127 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00221217@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:43:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:43:25 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIHhPO01630 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:43:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83E1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:43:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181743.hBIHhPO01630@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:43:25 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:25:04 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander writes, > >>Yes, for many years, this was recommended practice, to get the child on >>semi-solid foods as quickly as possible to increase weight, on the narrow >>premise that larger children were healthier. > >Whee! Luckily for me, this was contemporaneous with the medical judgement >that smoking during pregnancy was just fine. > >To be fair to my mom, she was a first-time mother, living a thousand miles >away from her family, and she was probably worried that I wasn't eating >enough formula... > >Pete No need to make excuses for her... it really called "practicing" medicine for a reason, and doctors were endorsing these recommendations. Women were being encouraged not to breastfeed because bottle-fed babies made faster weight gains, among other silly things. The Am. Diabetic Association is still recommending a high-carb diet for people with Type II diabetes. Wisdom comes slowly, and at a high price. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1OM7w011052 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:24:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83EA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:47 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBII2lO04884 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218180242.YQTY23303.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE1EBC1.4030705@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:02:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Don't Understand References: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> In-Reply-To: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: >>I have CBS news on my tiny electric teevee right now and heard Dan >>Rather say something a little while ago like, "The capture of Saddam >>doesn't seem to have changed Howard Dean's position on the war." I >>found that a dopey statement. > > Consider the source. I had never thought of Dan Rather as extremely conservative. Is he? >>But what does finding him have >>to do with the illegal war? > > Simple. If the war is illegal then the only proper thing to do is to > restore Saddam to power. And what should be done to Dubya, Rummy, et al? If international courts take action and decide to return Saddam to power, surely they will move then to punishing the criminals. How far down the US chain of command will they go? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1R77w011212 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:27:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83EB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:05:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:05:41 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBII5fO05349 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:05:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00221285@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:05:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:05:40 -0500 From: Neal Traven Subject: actual word-query IMFTATL To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Neal Traven Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The other day in the office I mentioned something about a "dairy bar" we used to go to back in New Jersey, where we ate hot fudge sundaes accompanied by those tiny pretzel sticks (mmmm, salt and sweet...). My cow orkers -- from Oregon, Texas, California, Wisconsin, and Vietnam -- didn't recognize the term. Clearly it must be a regional term, but I'm curious about the extent of the region. I don't have access to DARE. Googling pointed to places ranging from New Hampshire (the UNH Dairy Bar is widely known in New England) to New York to the Midwest. In Rhode Island and nearby Massachusetts, the equivalent might be "creamery", as in "Newport Creamery". Side note -- I'm going to New Hampshire January 21-28 to campaign in the primary. I expect to be among HD's cheering throngs come election night. neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:37:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1b57w011690 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:37:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83F03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:15:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:15:38 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIFaO06595 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:15:36 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121818152901500mr6u4e>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:15:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:17:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I Don't Understand In-Reply-To: <3FE1EBC1.4030705@maynor.net> References: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I had never thought of Dan Rather as extremely conservative. Is he? Without saying anything about Dan Rather in particular, the American media have become whores to American public opinion. (And conversely, of course, American public opinion is largely a creation of media playing to base, hot-button emotions. The tiger chases its tail, and is chased by it.) The American public wants to be titillated by war, and so we see things like cheek swabbing, checks on politicos' opinions of the legitimateness of war based on capture of a collapsed despot, etc. Rather's question wouldn't have been analytic as much as titillating. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:47:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1l57w012097 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:47:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83F3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:25:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:25:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIPcO07881 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:25:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIIPbeO030185 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:25:37 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIIPaa2030127 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:25:36 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218101929.00b72f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:20:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218091326.04327710@mail.istori.com> References: <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:25 AM 12/18/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander writes, > >>Yes, for many years, this was recommended practice, to get the child on >>semi-solid foods as quickly as possible to increase weight, on the narrow >>premise that larger children were healthier. > >Whee! Luckily for me, this was contemporaneous with the medical judgement >that smoking during pregnancy was just fine. > >To be fair to my mom, she was a first-time mother, living a thousand miles >away from her family, and she was probably worried that I wasn't eating >enough formula... > >Pete And look what has happened to you. Overweight American! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:49:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1nJ7w012192 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:49:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83F53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIIRrO08194 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:27:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:27:46 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBI1nJ7w012192 I grew up with "dairy bar" in Central New York. BrP >>> beisbol@ALUMNI.PITT.EDU 12/18/03 01:05PM >>> The other day in the office I mentioned something about a "dairy bar" we used to go to back in New Jersey, where we ate hot fudge sundaes accompanied by those tiny pretzel sticks (mmmm, salt and sweet...). My cow orkers -- from Oregon, Texas, California, Wisconsin, and Vietnam -- didn't recognize the term. Clearly it must be a regional term, but I'm curious about the extent of the region. I don't have access to DARE. Googling pointed to places ranging from New Hampshire (the UNH Dairy Bar is widely known in New England) to New York to the Midwest. In Rhode Island and nearby Massachusetts, the equivalent might be "creamery", as in "Newport Creamery". Side note -- I'm going to New Hampshire January 21-28 to campaign in the primary. I expect to be among HD's cheering throngs come election night. neal From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:55:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1tL7w012445 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:55:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83F67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:33:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:33:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIXtO08800 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:33:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIIXr2f000606 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:33:53 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIIXqJC000562; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:33:53 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218102616.00b8fe88@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:28:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218093941.0284c030@localhost> References: <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <6.0.0.22.0.20031217162213.0283dbb8@localhost> <20031218023736.46422.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:40 AM 12/18/2003 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >Not only a king but also a crown prince - Betty has met him. > >Espen Well, he passed near by but I respected his privacy. Very nice young man. It seemed the entire campus community tried to do the same. People forgot that he was here and his security was not blatantly out there. They were there, however. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 19:55:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI1to7w012462 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:55:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A83F68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:34:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:34:24 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIYOO08869 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:34:24 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-152.gwi.net [216.195.151.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBIIYKGp063190; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:34:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218133123.00b61618@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:32:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL In-Reply-To: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:05 PM 12/18/2003 -0500, Neal Traven wrote: >Clearly it must be a regional term, but I'm curious about the extent of the >region. I don't have access to DARE. Googling pointed to places ranging >from New Hampshire (the UNH Dairy Bar is widely known in New England) to >New York to the Midwest. In Rhode Island and nearby Massachusetts, the >equivalent might be "creamery", as in "Newport Creamery". My homw town of Spooner, WI (northwestern WI) had a dairy bar; there were others scattered across that part of the state. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:06:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI26s7w012937 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:06:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83FA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:45:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:45:27 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIjRO10008 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:45:27 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031218184521013006s5ple>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:45:21 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218104115.044c4ec8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:45:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218101929.00b72f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218091326.04327710@mail.istori.com> <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark writes, >And look what has happened to you. Overweight American! :) That didn't happen, but the respiratory allergies and autoimmune skin problems are a pain. Not whining, just saying. I'm thankful to have a healthy and happy life overall. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:09:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI29W7w013063 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:09:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A83FB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:05 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIm5O10265 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:05 -0500 Received: from [136.167.88.181] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 40035706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE1F665.2090609@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:05 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL References: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hmmm...while I understood clearly what you meant by "dairy bar", I don't think that I have ever or would ever use the term. I have lived my entire life in Massachusetts. It is much more likely that I would say that I was "going to Brigham's" or to "Bailey's" or wherever assuming that would know what I was talking about.. Rita L. Neal Traven wrote: >The other day in the office I mentioned something about a "dairy bar" we >used to go to back in New Jersey, where we ate hot fudge sundaes >accompanied by those tiny pretzel sticks (mmmm, salt and sweet...). My cow >orkers -- from Oregon, Texas, California, Wisconsin, and Vietnam -- didn't >recognize the term. > >Clearly it must be a regional term, but I'm curious about the extent of the >region. I don't have access to DARE. Googling pointed to places ranging >from New Hampshire (the UNH Dairy Bar is widely known in New England) to >New York to the Midwest. In Rhode Island and nearby Massachusetts, the >equivalent might be "creamery", as in "Newport Creamery". > >Side note -- I'm going to New Hampshire January 21-28 to campaign in the >primary. I expect to be among HD's cheering throngs come election night. > >neal > > -- Rita Leonard Information Technology Systems Services O'Neill Library 544 Phone: 617-552-3403 Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu "Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right." Henry Ford From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2Dj7w013275 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:13:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A83FBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:52:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIqJO10698 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:52:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIIqErm011173 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:52:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:52:59 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <139232963.20031218125259@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Intro to Meeting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is what's in the brochure my meeting hands out to visitors; typos are mine own. Note the term, Pete, 'an unprogrammed Quaker meeting'. You should probably look for that when you are looking for a meeting. I really like the term 'quality of worship'. Karen "Welcome to the Friends Meeting of Austin, an unprogrammed Quaker meeting. Enter when you are ready, sit anywhere you wish, and join us as we begin Meeting by "settling in" to the silence. Unprogrammed Quaker Meetings are based on silence, a silence of expectation, waiting upon the Light and the power of the Eternal Spirit. Meeting begins with a period of silence that may remain unbroken for half hour or more as each of us seeks to be quiet in body, mind, and spirit. Yet, the silence of Quaker meetings is active, not passive. As Meeting begins, you may find it difficult to relax into the silence and feel the quietness of body, mind, and spirit. You may be disturbed by the strangeness of the quiet, by distractions outside, or even by your own roving thoughts. Don't worry. Rather, continue trying to find the center of your being where you can know the presence of God. Responsibility for the quality of worship rests with all present as we seek to establish and maintain contemplative and meaningful silence and to listen to those who are moved to speak. Anyone may speak, but no ore is expected to do so. Indeed, a paradox of Quaker worship is that in response to the promptings of the Spirit, those speaking out of the silence, in one sense interrupting it, ultimately seek to deepen and enrich Meeting for Worship. We ask that speakers so led by tile Spirit rise and speak slowly and clearly in a voice that can be heard by all in the room. Adequate time for reflection is left between messages; this time is measured in minutes, rather than seconds. Should you continue to worship with Friends, you will discover over time that the messages delivered in Meetings for Worship differ in significant ways from the stories told at twelve-step meetings, the personal testimonies given in many other churches, political speeches, or talk in group therapy. The best way to learn to listen for leadings to speak is to worship with Friends, to talk to experienced Friends, and to read about the practice of Quaker worship. Among the unique features of a Quaker Meeting for Worship is the variety of experiences it can embrace. Some people will have a profound sense of awe and wonder because they sense directly that God is present. Others will be reminded of the value of community and shared time together. Yet others will experience a heightened awareness of their place in some larger whole. All will in various ways seek to take what they experience here into their daily lives and the world even as they bring the world into our Meeting for Worship. After about an hour, an appointed Friend extends a hand in warm greeting, the handshake passes among all present, and the Meeting for Worship ends. At this time, a member of the Worship and Ministry Committee will welcome all present, asking visitors to introduce themselves- We invite you to rise, tell us your name, whether or not you're from here in Austin, and what brought you to Meeting. Following introductions and announcements, you are welcomed to visit with others. If you wish to learn more about Quakers in general or the Friends Meeting of Austin, you may browse the literature for sale in file adjoining room or visit with the person designated to answer questions. There is a guest book, where you may register your presence with us. You may also request our monthly newsletter-by regular mail or email-though no one will contact you unless you ask to be. Children are welcome to participate in Meeting for Worship. They can remain in Meeting as long as they and their parents are comfortable. Should parents wish assistance, child care is available for the entire meeting in the basement of this building; the greeter or others present will be glad to direct you there. Children, especially those who arc a little older, often worship with the Meeting until about 11:15, when an adult will rise to leave for First Day School and children who wish to participate follow. You may find it helpful to reread this brochure during Meeting for Worship." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2Hr7w013491 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:17:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84017@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:56:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:56:26 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIIuQO11403 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:56:26 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:56:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:56:00 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: pulling threads... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBI2Hr7w013491 ...to see what unravels Discussion of "dairy bar" led me to thinking about my grandfather (who would have been 113 2 days ago). He was a dairy farmer - working for Melvill Dewey at the Lake Placid Club and then for Bert Hubbard (son and successor of Elbert Hubbard) in East Aurora (Buffalo) NY. This led me to look up more on the Roycrofters and I came across their Dictionary "Concocted on Rainy Days for the Divertisement of the Gloomsters" http://www.roycrofter.com/dict.htm Thought the wordsler gloomsters (et al.) might find divertisement BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2L27w013624 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:21:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84030@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:59:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:59:36 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIIxZO11759 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:59:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIIxY2f016896 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:59:34 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBIIxXJC016831; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:59:33 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218104826.00b86e48@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:54:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218104115.044c4ec8@mail.istori.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218101929.00b72f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218091326.04327710@mail.istori.com> <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:45 AM 12/18/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Betty Clark writes, > >>And look what has happened to you. Overweight American! > >:) > >That didn't happen, but the respiratory allergies and autoimmune skin >problems are a pain. > >Not whining, just saying. I'm thankful to have a healthy and happy life >overall. In the end it all comes down to genes it seems. That's not to say that there aren't things we can do to remain healthier longer, of course. With diet and exercise, for example, my brother is avoiding insulin shots. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:23:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2NZ7w013766 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:23:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00221400@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:02:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:02:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJ1ZO11970 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:01:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIJ1Rrm019230 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:01:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1114572837.20031218130213@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pulling threads... In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > Thought the wordsler gloomsters (et al.) might find divertisement Thank you. I like this one: "Humor: The tabasco sauce that gives life its flavor." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:27:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2Rk7w013947 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:27:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8405D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:06:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 266931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:06:19 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJ6JO12644 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:06:19 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003121819061001600rifspe>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:06:11 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218110749.0391d198@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:08:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Intro to Meeting In-Reply-To: <139232963.20031218125259@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Note the term, Pete, 'an unprogrammed Quaker meeting'. You should >probably look for that when you are looking for a meeting. Thanks. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:39:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2dq7w014536 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:39:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8408E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:18:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:18:26 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJIP914943 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:18:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218191820.SRQO25503.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE1FD7C.7020202@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:18:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL References: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neal Traven wrote: Dairy bars were quite common in Mississippi in the '50s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:42:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2gh7w014678 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:42:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00221495@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 267839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:21:16 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJL1915240 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:21:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218192056.STBP25503.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE1FE18.1000806@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:20:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Don't Understand References: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: >> I had never thought of Dan Rather as extremely conservative. Is he? > > Without saying anything about Dan Rather in particular, the American media > have become whores to American public opinion. (And conversely, of course, > American public opinion is largely a creation of media playing to base, > hot-button emotions. The tiger chases its tail, and is chased by it.) Well, yes. I realize that the US media have become pretty ridiculous, but the extremeness of the non-sequiturishness or whatever of that statement struck me as weird. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:49:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2ni7w014986 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:49:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A840CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:28:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:28:18 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJSI916676 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:28:18 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ30095VVF6ZN@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:23:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:23:52 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <19805e199a56.199a5619805e@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Neal Traven wrote: > >The other day in the office I mentioned something about a "dairy > bar" we > >used to go to back in New Jersey, where we ate hot fudge sundaes > >accompanied by those tiny pretzel sticks (mmmm, salt and > sweet...). My cow > >orkers -- from Oregon, Texas, California, Wisconsin, and Vietnam - > - didn't > >recognize the term. Me neither, although the places near where I grew up were "Greenwood Dairies" and "Goodnoe's". The latter is still in existence and if you go to their page -- check out the title "Goodnoe's Dairy Bar and Family Restaurant." http://www.goodnoe.com/index.html Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 20:57:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI2vf7w015316 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 20:57:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002214F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 268784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:36:14 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJaE917990 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:36:14 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ300KDCVR95Q@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.71] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:31:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:31:20 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <199739196f66.196f66199739@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Paul Barfoot > I grew up with "dairy bar" in Central New York. I think you took me there. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:07:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI37S7w015785 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:07:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84150@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f3.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJk1919581 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:45:55 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:45:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: source of arthur miller's all my sons Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:45:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2003 19:45:55.0772 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D4EA7C0:01C3C59F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think it's about 60% likely that I'll get to interview Miller in advance of Actors Theatre of Louisville's upcoming production of "All My Sons." If so, I'm going to hammer away at finding the historical source of the play. But after reviewing as much information as I could obtain, I'm increasingly persuaded it was the Curtis-Wright scandal. The widespread "tank" references to the play appear to have sprung from nowhere; they seem to have spread among reviewers and writers without any substantive verification. As nearly as I can tell, the Gussow book does not, in fact, mention defective parts for tanks. It does mention that his first mother-in-law, who was from Berea, Ohio, was the source of the story. The Curtis-Wright plant was in Ohio, though way downstate. I asked Gussow about this in a phone conversation a couple of days ago, and he said the Curtis-Wright link sounded very plausible, and emphasized that Miller himself has never explicitly identified the historical source--he has just mentioned the conversation that set the idea in motion. In the introduction to the collected plays, 1957, Miller also mentions the conversation. I think the Curtis-Wright scandal would have been major news in Ohio during the war, and a source of immense interest. After all, it was the source of a number of stories in the New York Times, and it must have been a 90 day wonder in Ohio. The interesting thing is that in every account, Miller says that his mother-in-law told him of a girl who had discovered the perfidy and turned in her father. Miller says that by the time the conversation was over he had turned the character from a daughter into a son (one of the oldest, and most reliable conflicts in the history of drama, after all). I think this is a case of intentional or inadvertent false memory. The parallels between the Curtis-Wright case and the facts in All My Sons are just too strong to ignore: the scandal occurs in Ohio, it involves airplanes, and in both the play and the Curtis-Wright case P-40s are identified as planes with defects. More details as the facts emerge. Marty >From: Peter Kaminski >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: source of arthur miller's all my sons >Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:18:36 -0800 > >Marty Rosen writes, > >>I finally got around to identifying the historical source for this play >>which, as I recall, Peter asked about a few weeks ago. > >Thanks, Marty! I've posted it to: >http://www.istori.com/truman-committee-wright-defects.pdf (227Kb) > >It's tantalizing, being about airplane engines at an Ohio factory, but I'm >not sure it's the right story. The one I've seen refers tank parts: > >>According to the book "Conversations with Miller" (2002) by New York Times >>theater critic Mel Gussow, Miller's mother-in-law told him about a girl in >>Ohio who had turned her father in for selling defective tank parts to the >>government. > >Do you have more that connects Miller and the Wright Aeronautical story? > >Pete _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:16:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3GR7w016229 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:16:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8418A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:55:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 269952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:55:00 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIJt0921169 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:55:00 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:55:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:54:50 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBI3GR7w016229 yes indeedy Marble Farms is a true Central NY dairy bar :-) happy memories BrP >>> 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET 12/18/03 02:31PM >>> From: Paul Barfoot > I grew up with "dairy bar" in Central New York. I think you took me there. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3Hq7w016289 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:17:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84196@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:56:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:56:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIJuP921436 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:56:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIJuJvX016907 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:56:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:57:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <116494660.20031218135705@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: actual word-query IMFTATL In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Paul Barfoot wrote: > yes indeedy Marble Farms is a true Central NY dairy bar There's a place here called Marble Slab Creamery. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:39:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3dH7w017286 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:39:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84226@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:51 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKHo924931 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:17:50 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:17:45 PST Message-ID: <20031218201745.59432.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:17:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031217204107.00adfd70@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > At 10:46 AM 12/17/2003 -0500, Phil Paxton wrote: > > >That's what happened when KK first opened here. > > Krispy Kreme? > > Betty Sometimes known in the Sucky South as Kripsy Kreme. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3gx7w017433 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:42:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8421C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:21:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:21:23 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKLM925203 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:21:22 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:21:17 PST Message-ID: <20031218202117.82798.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:21:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: OCH Has Two ER Doctors To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031218075749.GP42877@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > You don't find something phoney about a whole > medical school > about an old people's eyesight problem? Yes. In reality, it is a School of Euthanasia. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:44:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3iB7w017488 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:44:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00221671@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:22:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:22:44 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKMi925458 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:22:44 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:22:38 PST Message-ID: <20031218202238.14537.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:22:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Doggy dancing To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031218080725.GR42877@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > I believe, a basic understanding of the canine's > > profound instinct to please, love, patience, and > gobs > > of spare time. Really cool, Marie! > > Manipulative bitchness almost sounds cool now! You must indulge, now and again. It's great fun. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:46:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3kp7w017614 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:46:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002216B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:25:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:25:24 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKPO925675 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:25:24 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:25:17 PST Message-ID: <20031218202517.66654.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:25:17 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031218081500.GW42877@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > That sounds like a "barely literate" type of > question all right. You are wealthier than Phil. It's obvious you have TWO methadone days per week. But please, do not abstain in our account. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3n17w017697 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:49:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84234@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:27:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:27:34 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKRY925964 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:27:34 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:27:28 PST Message-ID: <20031218202728.1146.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218093941.0284c030@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Espen Ore wrote: > >This is really impressive and interesting. I wish > I > >had the time and intellect to pursue the evolution > of > >languages. I am barely literate in English. > > > >Do you think the king might come? Does Norway have > a > >king now? > > Not only a king but also a crown prince - Betty has > met him. I should have known Betty rubs whatsis with royalty. It's part of her badness, as taught be T.S. > > Espen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:51:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3p97w017768 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:51:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84249@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 271960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:29:42 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIKTg926123 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:29:42 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121820293401100ijgf7e>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:29:35 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218112829.045c0800@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:31:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I Don't Understand In-Reply-To: <3FE1FE18.1000806@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I realize that the US media have become pretty ridiculous, but the >extremeness of the non-sequiturishness or whatever of that statement >struck me as weird. It's sequiturish for the chunk of the American public who think that catching the bad guy who was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks (that's who we caught, right?), etc., legitimizes the war beyond reproach. It's inflammatory for others, but maybe that helps CBS sell advertising too. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:54:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3st7w017948 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:54:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002216A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:33:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:33:28 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKXS926735 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:33:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:33:20 PST Message-ID: <20031218203320.69727.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:33:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >Cereal at two weeks?? > > > > > Yes, for many years, this was recommended practice, > to get the child on semi-solid foods as quickly as > possible to increase weight, on the narrow premise > that larger children were healthier. I must have missed a generation. I would have thought perfectly obvious that a child's digestive system is not ready to handle cereal at two weeks of age. Neither puppies nor kittens should be on cereal at two weeks. I never heard of this before. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 21:57:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI3vN7w018061 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 21:57:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8427E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:35:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 272457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:35:56 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKZu927308 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:35:56 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:35:50 PST Message-ID: <20031218203550.70542.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:35:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312181335.hBIDZ0O22760@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > >> How careless of me - by adding a dozen or so > words to many of our daily > >> postings, we can obvioiusly rectify many things! > Thanks! > > > >Here they are: > > > >1 Ayeh > >2 'Tis true > >3 But of course > >4 Forsooth > >5 Perzackly > >6 Indeed > > 7 YaY. 8 It takes one to know one 9 Nonsense __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:13:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4Dn7w018770 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:13:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8430A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:52:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 273945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:52:22 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIKqM929772 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:52:22 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:52:14 PST Message-ID: <20031218205214.15048.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:52:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> > > >> >--Adam > >> > >> Reading the Hobbit as a kidlet is an error, imho. > My daughter also tried, > >> and is allergic to Tolkien as a result. It's like > an innoculation against > >> understanding the truly adult breadth of the > story. > > > >I dislike this equation of children with slow > humans. It's > >almost as denigrating as calling Britney Spears a > As much as I enjoy this jibe, I feel compelled by an > overly literal nature > to point out that we - all of us - rarely return to > old assumptions or > ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new > understanding. This > is my primary objection to permitting children to > watch Disney. They will > go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy > ending to "Hunchback of > Notre Dame". > > clo You've never read the alternative denouement? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:24:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4Of7w019234 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:24:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002217BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:03:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:03:06 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIL36931027 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:03:06 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:58 PST Message-ID: <20031218210258.81429.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Geek Alert To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218180141.024f1830@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > > > >We certainly can't have that! > > Why should Dumas write an ending to a book by Hugo? The secret of Dumasian plagiarism is out. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:28:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4Sf7w019411 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:28:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84385@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:07:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 274860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:07:14 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBIL7E931469 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:07:14 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:07:04 PST Message-ID: <20031218210704.15503.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:07:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Neal Traven wrote: > The other day in the office I mentioned something > about a "dairy bar" we > used to go to back in New Jersey, where we ate hot > fudge sundaes > accompanied by those tiny pretzel sticks (mmmm, salt > and sweet...). My cow > orkers -- from Oregon, Texas, California, Wisconsin, > and Vietnam -- didn't > recognize the term. There were many dairy bars in PA when I was raised there (50's, 60's). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4Xa7w019660 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:33:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8439E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:12:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:12:09 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILC9932179 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:12:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A843A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:12:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200312182112.hBILC9932179@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:12:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:54:50 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >yes indeedy Marble Farms is a true Central NY dairy bar > >:-) > >happy memories > >BrP > > > > >>>> 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET 12/18/03 02:31PM >>> >From: Paul Barfoot >> I grew up with "dairy bar" in Central New York. > >I think you took me there. > >Marie And here I was thinking she meant Dinosaur. ;) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:36:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4al7w019807 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:36:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A843A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:15:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:15:20 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBILFJ932728 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:15:19 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:15:19 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:15:14 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBI4al7w019807 She said dairy bar not biker bar :-) Maie - next time you're here we'll take you to Dinosaur BrP >>> clostran@SYR.EDU 12/18/03 04:12PM >>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:54:50 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >yes indeedy Marble Farms is a true Central NY dairy bar > >:-) > >happy memories > >BrP > > > > >>>> 14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET 12/18/03 02:31PM >>> >From: Paul Barfoot >> I grew up with "dairy bar" in Central New York. > >I think you took me there. > >Marie And here I was thinking she meant Dinosaur. ;) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:37:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4bk7w019860 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:37:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A843AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:16:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:16:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILGJ900351 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:16:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218211614.KQPY12344.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:16:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE2191A.3060003@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:16:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More Bricks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I liked my brick front steps so much and there was enough leftover brick for them to do the side steps. (The top of the side steps was already brick. I had them just do the sides of the side steps.) I'm very happy with the result. I hate, though, that I have no before pictures of either the front steps or the side steps. I thought surely I did, but I haven't been able to find them. The only one I found that showed the front steps at all is this distant one: http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Rooms/front.jpg That doesn't show the true ugliness of the concrete steps. So there's no contrast with these three after shots (actually, they're all in-progress shots -- the first two being those I posted the other day when they were doing the front steps, the third one being one I took a little while ago -- I'll do some real after shots after they come back and clean them, which they're going to do in a few days): http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick1.jpg http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick2.jpg http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick3.jpg -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:40:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4ed7w019987 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:40:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00221857@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:19:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:19:11 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILJB900897 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:19:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218211903.KRYE12344.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE219C7.7010602@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:19:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Don't Understand References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218112829.045c0800@mail.istori.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218112829.045c0800@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > It's sequiturish for the chunk of the American public who think that > catching the bad guy who was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks (that's > who we caught, right?), etc., legitimizes the war beyond reproach. I fear you're right. . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4fZ7w020021 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:41:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00221862@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILK8901058 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022185D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200312182120.hBILK8901058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: More Bricks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:16:10 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I liked my brick front steps so much and there was enough leftover brick >for them to do the side steps. (The top of the side steps was already >brick. I had them just do the sides of the side steps.) I'm very happy >with the result. > >I hate, though, that I have no before pictures of either the front steps >or the side steps. I thought surely I did, but I haven't been able to >find them. The only one I found that showed the front steps at all is >this distant one: > Well, they're lovelier now, though! And how are your ears and eyes today? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:44:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4ii7w020154 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:44:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A843FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:23:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:23:17 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILNH901537 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:23:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218212312.KTZO12344.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:23:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE21ABF.2070204@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:23:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks References: <200312182120.hBILK8901058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312182120.hBILK8901058@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > And how are your ears and eyes today? My eyes have been fine since whenever it was they got well. I've lost track of the days. The left eye never did go through the whole to-do that the right one did, so I never had to pry it open. It stopped oozing at the same time the right one got well. The ears are another matter. They're still driving me totally crazy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:48:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4mL7w020341 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:48:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A843F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:26:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:26:54 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBILQr902146 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:26:53 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:26:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:26:41 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: More Bricks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBI4mL7w020341 Hey no fair discussing under a "More bricks" subject line. glad you're better though BrP >>> natalie@MAYNOR.NET 12/18/03 04:23PM >>> Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > And how are your ears and eyes today? My eyes have been fine since whenever it was they got well. I've lost track of the days. The left eye never did go through the whole to-do that the right one did, so I never had to pry it open. It stopped oozing at the same time the right one got well. The ears are another matter. They're still driving me totally crazy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:51:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4pv7w020503 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:51:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:30:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 275627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:30:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILKR901136 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBILJ4DG001419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:19:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:20:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks In-Reply-To: <3FE2191A.3060003@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FE2191A.3060003@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I liked my brick front steps so much and there was enough leftover brick >for them to do the side steps. (The top of the side steps was already >brick. I had them just do the sides of the side steps.) I'm very happy >with the result. You will be able to advise me about such matters when I eventually buy a house. I will probably take my condo profit in 3 years or so and buy a house. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:52:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4qW7w020532 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:52:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8442E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:31:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:31:05 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILV5902560 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:31:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218213100.KYFD12344.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:31:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE21C94.8030008@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:31:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: High-Tech Coverups Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Somebody just e-mailed me this url, which I just blogged: http://tinyurl.com/2sut7 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 22:54:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI4sD7w020594 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:54:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8443E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:32:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 276407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:32:45 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILWj902757 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:32:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218213240.KZAZ12344.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:32:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE21CF8.20102@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:32:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot wrote: > Hey no fair discussing under a "More bricks" subject line. Oops. Clo led me astray. > glad you're better though Actually, I'm not sure that I am. The eyes were just kind of a , not like the ear-hell. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:07:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI57X7w021221 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:07:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A844BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:46:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:46:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILk5904767 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:46:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBILk32f013320 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:46:04 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBILk2JC013296; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:46:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218134014.00b86e48@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:40:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: More Bricks In-Reply-To: <3FE2191A.3060003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:16 PM 12/18/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick1.jpg >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick2.jpg >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/brick3.jpg >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No plumber butts! I'm impressed. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:09:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI59Z7w021321 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:09:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002218F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:48:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:48:04 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBILm3905078 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:48:03 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:47:58 PST Message-ID: <20031218214758.58244.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: More Bricks To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE21CF8.20102@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Actually, I'm not sure that I am. The eyes were > just kind of a > , not like the ear-hell. Time you go to your personal physician. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:10:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5AF7w021356 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:10:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A844B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:48:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:48:47 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBILml905229 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:48:47 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:41 PST Message-ID: <20031218214841.94172.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:48:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: More Bricks To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218134014.00b86e48@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty Clark wrote: > At 03:16 PM 12/18/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > No plumber butts! I'm impressed. Plumbers are the primary users of No Crack. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:14:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5Ea7w021568 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:14:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A844DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:53:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 277048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:53:09 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILfk903806 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:41:46 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu ([68.19.165.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218214141.LDGU12344.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ra.msstate.edu> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:41:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:41:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: [Fwd: Alaskan Malamute] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anybody looking for a malamute? He sounds like a good dog for somebody into large, scary dogs: ******************* I have a 12-18 month old male Alaskan Malamute who needs a home. "Choctaw" was dumped about 6 weeks ago and I took him home and have been treating his mange (localized to right rump area) and he has had all shots and his bordetella. Choctaw's mange is responding to treatment and his hair is growing back in nicely, however, needs one more dipping for his mange. (My husband and I are willing to pay for this last dipping, ) I already have 4 rescues and cannot keep Choctaw. Our dogs are inside dogs and without a fenced yard, Choctaw roams the countryside and we are concerned that he may be shot or otherwise harmed. We will be surrendering Choctaw to the Oktibbeha Humane Society as early as Friday. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thank you Ardra *********************** -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:16:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5G67w021644 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:16:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A844F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:54:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:54:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILsd906242 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:54:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022195B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:54:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200312182154.hBILsd906242@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:54:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: More Bricks To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:32:40 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Paul Barfoot wrote: > >> Hey no fair discussing under a "More bricks" subject line. > >Oops. Clo led me astray. > I was curious abt whether you'd take the bait. >> glad you're better though > >Actually, I'm not sure that I am. The eyes were just kind of a >, not like the ear-hell. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Just to further inform you abt other people's health habits, as a rule of thumb, if whatever the dr told you to take isn't working by a) the end of the medicine (antibiotic) or b) a week to 10 days (or in the case of ER, go to your regular Dr.) and ask whether X appears to be improving, whether the meds appear to be helping, what else needs to be done, if anything, and when you can expect improvement! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:20:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5Kd7w021850 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:20:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8451A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:59:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 278517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:59:12 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBILxB906922 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:59:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBILw6pJ011499 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:58:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:59:55 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Fwd: Alaskan Malamute] In-Reply-To: <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> References: <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Anybody looking for a malamute? He sounds like a good dog for somebody > into large, scary dogs: Why are Malamutes scary? 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News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:31:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5Vo7w022366 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:31:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84633@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:10:13 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIMAD910359 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:10:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218221007.QUWN20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:10:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE225BF.6080204@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:10:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218134014.00b86e48@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218134014.00b86e48@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > No plumber butts! I'm impressed. Plumber butts?? As in butts of plumbers? Why would plumber butts be involved? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:33:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5XH7w022451 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:33:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00221A48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:11:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:11:49 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIMBn910607 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:11:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218221143.QVOE20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:11:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE22620.6030703@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:11:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Snot and Stuff (Was: Re: More Bricks) References: <200312182154.hBILsd906242@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312182154.hBILsd906242@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Just to further inform you abt other people's health habits, as a rule of > thumb, if whatever the dr told you to take isn't working by > a) the end of the medicine (antibiotic) or > b) a week to 10 days I still have one day left of the medicine. And, according to its package, it continues to work for several days after that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 17 23:34:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI5Yf7w022562 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:34:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8464F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:13:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:13:14 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIMDE910784 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:13:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218221308.QWBK20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:13:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE22671.4090403@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:13:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Fwd: Alaskan Malamute] References: <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Why are Malamutes scary? Their size, I guess. Or shape? I don't know, but I do know that many people (who aren't into dogs) are scared of dogs that look like that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 00:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI6WM7w025477 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:32:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84773@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:00:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:00:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBIN0r917611 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:00:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBIN0mvX022343 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:00:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:01:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <23472144.20031218170135@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Snot and Stuff (Was: Re: More Bricks) In-Reply-To: <3FE22620.6030703@maynor.net> References: <200312182154.hBILsd906242@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FE22620.6030703@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Just to further inform you abt other people's health habits, as a rule of >> thumb, if whatever the dr told you to take isn't working by >> a) the end of the medicine (antibiotic) or >> b) a week to 10 days > I still have one day left of the medicine. And, according to its > package, it continues to work for several days after that. Another option is to phone your dr. tomorrow morning, tell him what's going on with you, including the progression of symptoms, and ask him if you should come in. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 00:49:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI6n67w026250 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:49:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A847F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:27:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:27:38 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINRa920965 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:27:36 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-152.gwi.net [216.195.151.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBINRWGp006665; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:27:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218180625.00b6c908@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:11:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Alaskan Malamute] In-Reply-To: <3FE22671.4090403@maynor.net> References: <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:13 PM 12/18/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >>Why are Malamutes scary? > >Their size, I guess. Or shape? I don't know, but I do know that many >people (who aren't into dogs) are scared of dogs that look like that. Their size, to some extent---also their appearance, sort of a whitish husky. And malemutes and huskies have a wolf-like appearance. As to scary, Sheba, who spends her days across the street with Grandpa Parsons, is a full-bred husky and one of the most likeable dogs I've met---this, despite her being rather mistreated (or maltreated) as a young dog. The dogs I find scary---or at least, those I tend to stay away from---are Dobermans and pit bulls. They have been bred to be watch/attack dogs. Most other breeds have other priorities. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 00:49:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI6nn7w026276 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:49:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00221C0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:28:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:28:21 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINSL921045 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:28:21 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBINSIbV10526742 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:28:18 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:28:18 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne, in re: IaWL > The movie was a box office flop when it was first > released. ...and rightfully so. Even for the time, it's crap. If anyone can nominate a more treacly, cloying, manipulative piece of garbage, I'd like to know what it is. And how did it come to be known as a Christmas (sorry, "holiday season") movie? Suicide. Nice. Ugh. "Every time a bell rings..." Ugh**2. Those fearsome seraphs from Isaiah 6 must have been driven to from all that wing-earning. Ugh**3. Bring on Ralphie. -- Richard-el From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 00:59:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI6xZ7w026693 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:59:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84809@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:38:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:38:07 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINc7921881 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:38:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218233801.ILBR1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:38:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE23A59.2090607@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:38:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Fwd: Alaskan Malamute] References: <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218180625.00b6c908@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218180625.00b6c908@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Their size, to some extent---also their appearance, sort of a whitish > husky. And malemutes and huskies have a wolf-like appearance. As to > scary, Sheba, who spends her days across the street with Grandpa Parsons, > is a full-bred husky and one of the most likeable dogs I've met---this, > despite her being rather mistreated (or maltreated) as a young dog. I've known some huskies who were re their friendliness, but I don't think I've ever heard of a malamute who wasn't friendly/lovable. They do have a mean look, though. > The dogs I find scary---or at least, those I tend to stay away from---are > Dobermans and pit bulls. They have been bred to be watch/attack > dogs. Most other breeds have other priorities. Yes, I do not cozy up to a doberman or pit bull unless it is clearly making friendly gestures to me. Ditto rottweilers, though I must admit that I've never personally known an unnice rottweiler. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:03:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI73h7w026885 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:03:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8482B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:42:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:42:14 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINgE922150 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:42:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.165.215]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031218234209.IMWX1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:42:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE23B51.3020501@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:42:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad References: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > And how did it come to be known as a > Christmas (sorry, "holiday season") > movie? Suicide. Nice. It's got the right ingredients. Think about it -- Christmas tree, music (was it "O Come All Ye Faithful" she kept playing over and over?), an angel, wise men bringing gifts, a saving. And it's even got Scrooge. I think I mentioned before that I had never seen it until people on Words-L were talking about it. Now I see it regularly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:05:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI75o7w026967 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:05:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84816@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:44:22 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINiL922311 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:44:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBINiKnM011316 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:44:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE23B7D.2080806@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:42:53 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks References: <200312182154.hBILsd906242@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I was curious abt whether you'd take the bait. Everytime you use that abbreviation, I think you're talking about the Anne. I wonder how her kidneys are feeling. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI7K57w027552 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:20:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84834@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:48:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:48:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINmZ922707 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:48:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBINmYnM015129 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:48:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE23C7C.3020106@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:47:08 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL References: <200312181805.hBII5fO05349@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FE1F665.2090609@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wouldn't use the term, but I understand what it means. I think there probably are a few places called "dairy bars" around -- or were around when I was growing up -- and I don't mean Dottio's, where the neighborhood dairy farmers went to drink ... Rita Leonard wrote: > Hmmm...while I understood clearly what you meant by "dairy bar", I don't > think that I have ever or would ever use the term. I have lived my > entire life in Massachusetts. It is much more likely that I would say > that I was "going to Brigham's" or to "Bailey's" or wherever assuming > that would know what I was talking about.. > > Rita L. > > Neal Traven wrote: > >> The other day in the office I mentioned something about a "dairy bar" we >> used to go to back in New Jersey, where we ate hot fudge sundaes >> accompanied by those tiny pretzel sticks (mmmm, salt and sweet...). >> My cow >> orkers -- from Oregon, Texas, California, Wisconsin, and Vietnam -- >> didn't >> recognize the term. >> >> Clearly it must be a regional term, but I'm curious about the extent >> of the >> region. I don't have access to DARE. Googling pointed to places ranging >> from New Hampshire (the UNH Dairy Bar is widely known in New England) to >> New York to the Midwest. In Rhode Island and nearby Massachusetts, the >> equivalent might be "creamery", as in "Newport Creamery". >> >> Side note -- I'm going to New Hampshire January 21-28 to campaign in the >> primary. I expect to be among HD's cheering throngs come election night. >> >> neal >> >> > > -- > > Rita Leonard > Information Technology Systems Services > O'Neill Library 544 > Phone: 617-552-3403 > Email: rita.leonard@bc.edu > > "Whether you believe you can do a thing > or not, you are right." Henry Ford > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:20:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI7K57w027553 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:20:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8483A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:51:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:51:24 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBINpN922941 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:51:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBINpMnM018283 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:51:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE23D24.6050006@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:49:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Feeling better, Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218091326.04327710@mail.istori.com> <200312181330.hBIDUDO21842@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218104115.044c4ec8@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Betty Clark writes, > >> And look what has happened to you. Overweight American! > > > :) > > That didn't happen, but the respiratory allergies and autoimmune skin > problems are a pain. > > Not whining, just saying. I'm thankful to have a healthy and happy life > overall. I was a strep-B baby, so my mom couldn't even touch me for 4 days after I was born. We had lots of ear infections and streps as kids -- all of us were formula fed and both parents smoked. Ana is MUCH healthier than I ever was as a kid. She is almost never sick. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:29:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI7Tu7w028033 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:29:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00221CB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:08:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:08:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ08R924726 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:08:27 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-152.gwi.net [216.195.151.152]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBJ08QGn012305 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:08:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218190718.00bcbd00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:08:25 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: SpyKiller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I ran free Spy Killer 2003 on my computer and it found 8 spyware files. So I want to pay money and have them removed? Is every spyware or adware thing a bad thing? Doesn't free Eudora have an adware thingy? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:36:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI7aW7w028349 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:36:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00221CC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:15:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:15:04 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ0F3925199 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:15:03 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121900145701100jmhnke>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:14:58 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218160135.04b2b0d8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:17:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: [Fwd: Alaskan Malamute] In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218180625.00b6c908@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FE22671.4090403@maynor.net> <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> <3FE21F15.10507@ra.msstate.edu> <42486781.20031218155955@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cwv writes, >The dogs I find scary---or at least, those I tend to stay away from---are >Dobermans and pit bulls. I'm careful around Dobermans I don't know, but the three Dobermans I've known well have been hands-down the sweetest, most affectionate dogs I've been friends with. One was protective of its family, but warmed up quickly to strangers; the other two were sweet to everybody. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 01:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI7sY7w029134 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:54:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00221D04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:33:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:33:05 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ0X5926928 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:33:05 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003121900325401200r6dqge>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:32:54 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218162752.04873ba8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:33:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: SpyKiller In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218190718.00bcbd00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes, >I ran free Spy Killer 2003 on my computer and it found 8 spyware files. So >I want to pay money and have them removed? Is every spyware or adware >thing a bad thing? Doesn't free Eudora have an adware thingy? Spybot Search & Destroy is one of the best anti-spyware programs, and it's free in both find and remove modes: http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=spybotsd Spyware and adware is fine if you feel what you receive by using it outweighs what it takes from you. One of the problems with spyware is that it's not always transparent about what it takes from you, though. Ad-supported Eudora is a good value, I think, and I use it myself. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8Lm7w030375 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:21:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8493F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:00:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:00:19 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ10J929888 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:00:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBJ0xEpJ008204 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:59:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:01:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1993925434.20031218190105@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: SpyKiller In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218162752.04873ba8@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218162752.04873ba8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, December 18, 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Ad-supported Eudora is a good value, I think, and I use it myself. I use ad-supported Weatherbug. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8Qt7w030606 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:26:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8494A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:05:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:05:26 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ0tP929326 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:55:25 -0500 Received: (qmail 70227 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 00:55:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:55:24 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Don't Understand Message-ID: <20031219005524.GA51743@words-l.org> References: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:50:55AM -0700, John Williams wrote: > > I have CBS news on my tiny electric teevee right now and heard Dan > > Rather say something a little while ago like, "The capture of Saddam > > doesn't seem to have changed Howard Dean's position on the war." I > > found that a dopey statement. > > Consider the source. HA!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8VF7w030816 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:31:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8498F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:09:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:09:46 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ0xk929779 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:59:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 72701 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 00:59:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:59:44 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pulling threads... Message-ID: <20031219005944.GB51743@words-l.org> References: <1114572837.20031218130213@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1114572837.20031218130213@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:02:13PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > I like this one: > "Humor: The tabasco sauce that gives life its flavor." Adding tabasco for flavor is a wee bit zany. 'Strewth, has wordsl gone WILD? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:33:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8XE7w030924 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:33:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00221DBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:11:45 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ11j930043 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:01:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 74058 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:01:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:01:44 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words - Linguistic OCR-mess up Message-ID: <20031219010144.GC51743@words-l.org> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20031218093941.0284c030@localhost> <20031218202728.1146.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218202728.1146.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:27:28PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > I should have known Betty rubs whatsis with royalty. > It's part of her badness, as taught be T.S. Well YaY! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:34:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8Y67w030992 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:34:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8498D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:12:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:12:37 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ12b930145 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:02:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 74540 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:02:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:02:35 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I Don't Understand Message-ID: <20031219010235.GD51743@words-l.org> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218100849.04747dc8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218112829.045c0800@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218112829.045c0800@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:31:56PM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > It's sequiturish for the chunk of the American public who think that > catching the bad guy who was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks (that's > who we caught, right?), etc., legitimizes the war beyond reproach. It's "whom". And screw your west coast snobbery bucko! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8ZN7w031053 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:35:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84998@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:13:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 287988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:13:47 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ13k930239 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:03:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 75109 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:03:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:03:45 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Geek Alert Message-ID: <20031219010345.GE51743@words-l.org> References: <200312181338.hBIDcfO23205@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031218205214.15048.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218205214.15048.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:52:14PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> > > > >> >--Adam > > >> > > >> Reading the Hobbit as a kidlet is an error, imho. > > My daughter also tried, > > >> and is allergic to Tolkien as a result. It's like > > an innoculation against > > >> understanding the truly adult breadth of the > > story. > > > > > >I dislike this equation of children with slow > > humans. It's > > >almost as denigrating as calling Britney Spears a > > As much as I enjoy this jibe, I feel compelled by an > > overly literal nature > > to point out that we - all of us - rarely return to > > old assumptions or > > ideas to recheck their validity in the light of new > > understanding. This > > is my primary objection to permitting children to > > watch Disney. They will > > go through life believing that Dumas wrote a happy > > ending to "Hunchback of > > Notre Dame". > > > > clo > > You've never read the alternative denouement? I found it "serendipitously" but 'twas a wee bit "sesquipedalian". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:35:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8Zv7w031077 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:35:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84993@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:14:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:14:28 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ14R930337 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:04:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 75542 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:04:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:04:26 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: actual word-query IMFTATL Message-ID: <20031219010426.GF51743@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 04:15:14PM -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: > She said dairy bar not biker bar > > :-) ROFL:) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:36:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8aw7w031116 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:36:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84982@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:15:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:15:29 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ15T930405 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:05:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 76245 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:05:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:05:28 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks Message-ID: <20031219010528.GG51743@words-l.org> References: <3FE2191A.3060003@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 04:20:25PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > You will be able to advise me about such matters when I eventually buy a > house. I will probably take my condo profit in 3 years or so and buy a > house. ???? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:40:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8eF7w031263 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:40:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8499C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:18:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:18:46 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ18k931175 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:08:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 78072 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:08:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:08:45 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups Message-ID: <20031219010845.GH51743@words-l.org> References: <3FE21C94.8030008@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE21C94.8030008@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:31:00PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Somebody just e-mailed me this url, which I just blogged: > > http://tinyurl.com/2sut7 Not the most competent coverup, I'm afraid: Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11) in /home/sites/site15/web/db_connect.php on line 3 Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysqlerror() in /home/sites/site15/web/db_connect.php on line 3 The call to report the error had an error! That just puts the tabasco of humor on the oatmeal of my day. Life can be zany sometimes! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:41:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8fS7w031314 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:41:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A849A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:19:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:20:00 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ1A0931244 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:10:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 78727 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:09:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:09:59 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks Message-ID: <20031219010959.GI51743@words-l.org> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031218134014.00b86e48@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031218214841.94172.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031218214841.94172.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:48:41PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Betty Clark wrote: > > At 03:16 PM 12/18/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > No plumber butts! I'm impressed. > > > Plumbers are the primary users of No Crack. HA!!!!!!!!! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:50:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8o67w031729 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:50:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A849AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:28:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:28:37 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ1Ia931957 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:18:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 83759 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:18:35 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:18:35 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad Message-ID: <20031219011835.GJ51743@words-l.org> References: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 05:28:18PM -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: > And how did it come to be known as a Christmas (sorry, > "holiday season") movie? Suicide. Nice. Consulting http://www.diacenter.org/km/musiccd.html one finds a scientifically proven fact: "the most unwanted subjects for lyrics are cowboys and holidays". As we knew all along, NOBODY likes Christmas songs on autorepeat. Yet, they are everywhere. Who has wrought this paradox? It's the dowager empresses of the family, with loong-stifled power-trips, enforcing cheer and exacting their revenge. Question them and you might find a thing or two about the movie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 02:52:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI8qT7w031835 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:52:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A849B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:31:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:31:00 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ1L0932205 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:21:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 85156 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:20:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:20:59 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: More Bricks Message-ID: <20031219012059.GA84203@words-l.org> References: <3FE21CF8.20102@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE21CF8.20102@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bye. On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:32:40PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Paul Barfoot wrote: > > >Hey no fair discussing under a "More bricks" subject line. > > Oops. Clo led me astray. > > >glad you're better though > > Actually, I'm not sure that I am. The eyes were just kind of a > , not like the ear-hell. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 03:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI93D7w032295 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:03:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A849CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:41:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:41:44 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ1Vi900788 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:31:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 91919 invoked by uid 1003); 19 Dec 2003 01:31:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:31:43 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups Message-ID: <20031219013143.GA89239@words-l.org> References: <3FE21C94.8030008@maynor.net> <20031219010845.GH51743@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031219010845.GH51743@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:31:00PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/2sut7 http://www.misleader.org/ ^^^^^^^^^ Consider the source. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 03:38:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI9cW7w001393 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:38:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84A22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:17:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:17:03 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ2Gm904055 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:16:48 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBJ2GiRp025879 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:16:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00e601c3c5d6$4cebc960$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1ec9aa1e953a.1e953a1ec9aa@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3FE1EBC1.4030705@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: I Don't Understand Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:17:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I had never thought of Dan Rather as extremely conservative. Is he? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Stop! Stop! You're killing me! ROFL. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 03:43:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI9h27w001610 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:43:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84A34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:21:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:21:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f34.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ2LW904484 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:21:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:21:26 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.133 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:21:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.133] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Paraffin Thingies Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:21:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2003 02:21:26.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE008680:01C3C5D6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I had a WLM at the mall yesterday and bought some "No-Crack" > > (love the > >name) hand cream at Restoration Hardware. > > > > Ohmigawd, Marie's posting yuppie! (Is that the word I'm looking for?) > > RH rings all sorts of bells for me, can't put my finger on the precise > > word... >Bobo? But of course. Restoration Hardware is the perfect example of bobo-ism. Marie is very smart. >Actually I have a friend out in CA who is a buyer for RH, so we get all >kinds of coupons. Does that help? yes, coupons r001. _________________________________________________________________ It’s our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 03:43:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBI9hk7w001647 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:43:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84A2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:22:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 290362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:22:17 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ2MG904574 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:22:16 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-152.gwi.net [216.195.151.152]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBJ2ME57000619 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:22:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218212127.02dc6440@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:22:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: SpyKiller In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218162752.04873ba8@mail.istori.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218190718.00bcbd00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Spyware and adware is fine if you feel what you receive by using it >outweighs what it takes from you. One of the problems with spyware is that >it's not always transparent about what it takes from you, though. >Pete I don't mind if it watches what web pages I browse. But I would mind if it copies down my credit card number. How do I tell the difference? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 04:39:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIAdp7w004212 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:39:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84BAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:18:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:18:21 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f19.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ3IL913271 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:18:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:18:15 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.81 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:18:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.81] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hey, Brad Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:18:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2003 03:18:15.0727 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDFB23F0:01C3C5DE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin : >Bring on Ralphie. My favorite Christmas movie. I watch it every year. I saw the lamp somewhere the other day. _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 04:54:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIAsg7w004929 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84BE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:33:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:33:13 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f38.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ3XC914219 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:33:12 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:33:06 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.81 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:33:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.81] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: I Don't Understand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:33:06 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2003 03:33:06.0872 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1251380:01C3C5E0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M: > > I had never thought of Dan Rather as extremely conservative. Is he? >>-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Stop! Stop! You're killing me! >ROFL. Maybe this is like class- some people don't notice class distinctions, others don't notice political persuasions. _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 04:54:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIAsm7w004937 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:54:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00222095@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:33:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:33:18 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ3XI914238 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:33:18 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121903331101100ij18ie>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:33:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218182634.043df748@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:35:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: SpyKiller In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218212127.02dc6440@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031218162752.04873ba8@mail.istori.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031218190718.00bcbd00@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes, >How do I tell the difference? Ideally, you'd ask its vendor or look at its support FAQ. If that's unavailable, first ask yourself if you should trust something that's unsupported. Then Google it to see what the 'net thinks about it. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 04:55:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIAtU7w004967 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 04:55:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84BEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:34:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:34:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f47.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ3Y0914371 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:34:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:33:55 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.81 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:33:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.81] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: I Don't Understand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:33:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2003 03:33:55.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDD71D70:01C3C5E0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU D.M: > > I had never thought of Dan Rather as extremely conservative. Is he? >>-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Stop! Stop! You're killing me! >ROFL. Maybe this is like class- some people don't notice class distinctions, others don't notice political persuasions. _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:06:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIB6K7w005401 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:06:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84C2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:44:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:44:50 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ3io916375 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:44:50 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:44:28 PST Message-ID: <20031219034428.48573.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:44:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: pulling threads... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031219005944.GB51743@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:02:13PM -0600, Karen Kay > wrote: > > I like this one: > > "Humor: The tabasco sauce that gives life its > flavor." > > Adding tabasco for flavor is a wee bit zany. > > 'Strewth, has wordsl gone WILD? Yes. Unrestrained frivolity is afoot. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:12:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBCt7w005708 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:12:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84C5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ3pP916987 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:51:25 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:51:19 PST Message-ID: <20031219035119.11099.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:51:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031219010845.GH51743@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Not the most competent coverup, I'm afraid: > The call to report the error had an error! That just > puts > the tabasco of humor on the oatmeal of my day. Life > can be > zany sometimes! Okay, Sweet Hog of Mine ("State Fair", Rodgers and Hammerstein, 1962), can you pause in your hilarity to answer a stupid question? Why am I being hounded by a persistent little screen that reads "Virtual Memory Too Low"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:18:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBI77w005910 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:18:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00222126@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:56:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:56:37 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ3ub917614 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:56:37 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:56:31 PST Message-ID: <20031219035631.52929.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hey, Brad To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rashmi Murthy wrote: > My favorite Christmas movie. I watch it every year. > I saw the > lamp somewhere the other day. It is the pinnacle of sophisticated interior decor. Where on earth did you see it, aside from the movie? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:24:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBO37w005982 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:24:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84D5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:02:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:02:32 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ42V919013 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:02:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:02:25 PST Message-ID: <20031219040225.31095.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:02:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Hey, Brad To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > Lynne, in re: IaWL > > The movie was a box office flop when it was first > > released. > > ...and rightfully so. Even for the > time, it's crap. > > If anyone can nominate a more treacly, > cloying, manipulative piece of garbage, > I'd like to know what it is. > > Bring on Ralphie. "Ole Yeller". But back then, they were unfamiliar with manipulatives. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBYt7w006149 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:34:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A84DFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:13:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:13:25 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ4DO920410 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:13:24 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DBBAB2B56A; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05122B552 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:13:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <20031219011835.GJ51743@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > As we knew all along, NOBODY likes Christmas songs on autorepeat. I do. As long as they're not cheery and "pop" heh heh]]~~~~~~\\\ DAMN IT GOT AWAy from me there Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:39:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBdo7w006204 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:39:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00222287@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:18:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:18:20 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ4IK921003 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:18:20 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E97012B689; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDAE2B552 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups In-Reply-To: <20031219035119.11099.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Okay, Sweet Hog of Mine ("State Fair", Rodgers and Lynn, please stop calling him 'Hog.' That is Anne Harwe~~~~~ Toal's oh let's say monicker. I suggest you should call him 'Ho' instead. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:48:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBme7w006353 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:48:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A84E12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:27:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:27:10 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ4RA921631 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:27:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:26:51 PST Message-ID: <20031219042651.37479.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > > Okay, Sweet Hog of Mine ("State Fair", Rodgers and > > Lynn, please stop calling him 'Hog.' That is Anne > Harwe~~~~~ Toal's oh > let's say monicker. > > I suggest you should call him 'Ho' instead. Ho is too ambiguous. I suggest Swine. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 05:54:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIBse7w006413 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:54:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A84E31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:33:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:33:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:AgCOeeGgTblQa35mkfW5b6Xvp01UWqXI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ4X9921966 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:33:09 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB033057D for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6C52334A for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:33:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20031219035119.11099.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031219010845.GH51743@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:32:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 7:51 PM -0800 12/18/03, Lynne Weber wrote: >Okay, Sweet Hog of Mine ("State Fair", Rodgers and >Hammerstein, 1962), can you pause in your hilarity to >answer a stupid question? Why am I being hounded by a >persistent little screen that reads "Virtual Memory >Too Low"? Let me get this straight: You're asking the King of OS Scorn for help configuring your Windows computer? And you think that he might deign to be helpful? Would that be an accurate summary of the situation? Ken Miller Head Decapitationist Samant Institute for the Study of Poultrygeist Phenomena From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 06:06:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIC677w006583 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:06:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00222396@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:44:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:44:28 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJ4iR923243 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:44:27 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:44:22 PST Message-ID: <20031219044422.42302.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:44:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: > Let me get this straight: > > You're asking the King of OS Scorn for help > configuring your Windows > computer? And you think that he might deign to be > helpful? Would that be > an accurate summary of the situation? Yes. > > Ken Miller > Head Decapitationist > Samant Institute for the Study of Poultrygeist Phenomena Hurled chickens? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 06:43:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIChM7w007063 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:43:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002224C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 0:21:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:20:41 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f12.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ58R926032 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:08:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:08:21 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.164 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:08:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.164] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:08:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2003 05:08:21.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F6273A0:01C3C5EE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Bookrat wrote: >You're asking the King of OS Scorn for help >configuring your Windows >computer? And you think that he might deign to be >helpful? Would that be >an accurate summary of the situation? One of us is suffering from a touch of late night memory loss... _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 08:10:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIEAW7w008020 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:10:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8528D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 1:49:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 307929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:49:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ6n1901784 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:49:01 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022260A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 1:49:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200312190649.hBJ6n1901784@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:49:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:51:19 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Not the most competent coverup, I'm afraid: >> The call to report the error had an error! That just >> puts >> the tabasco of humor on the oatmeal of my day. Life >> can be >> zany sometimes! > >Okay, Sweet Hog of Mine ("State Fair", Rodgers and >Hammerstein, 1962), can you pause in your hilarity to >answer a stupid question? Why am I being hounded by a >persistent little screen that reads "Virtual Memory >Too Low"? Perform this simple diagnostic: Do remember what was said on Words-L in 1991? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 08:40:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIEe97w008574 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:40:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A85357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 2:18:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:18:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJ7Ib906414 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:18:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBJ7IURp011818 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:18:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3c600$77cc8e60$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: WWJD Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:19:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBIEe97w008574 G Grandaughter brought home a story the 5th grade teacher presented on the origin of the Christmas candy cane. Something about it's in the shape of a shepherd's crook and if you turn it upside down it's J for Jesus, and the red stands for his blood and the white stands for his death. Thought I might refer her to the Urban Legends page where, of course, it is identified as false. There's lots more I would like to say but I'm not involved in this generation's stuff. Wonder if those kids still feel like eating candy canes? Ugh. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 13:02:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIJ2g7w013346 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:02:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8554D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 6:41:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 314494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:41:09 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJBf8923680 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:41:08 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.188.22ff427a (4468) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:40:56 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <188.22ff427a.2d143dc7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:40:55 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] High-Tech Coverups To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:52:03 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Why am I being hounded by a persistent little screen that reads "Virtual Memory Too Low"? >> When that happens on my computer, I just shut it down and restart it. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 15:19:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBILJZ7w014746 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:19:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8562B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 8:11:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:11:00 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJDB0917302 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:11:00 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:10:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:10:52 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: WWJD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBILJZ7w014746 I thought that the candy cane, like the three gold balls of the pawn shop, represented St Nicholas. I never hear the upside down J story. BrP >>> dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM 12/19/03 02:19AM >>> G Grandaughter brought home a story the 5th grade teacher presented on the origin of the Christmas candy cane. Something about it's in the shape of a shepherd's crook and if you turn it upside down it's J for Jesus, and the red stands for his blood and the white stands for his death. Thought I might refer her to the Urban Legends page where, of course, it is identified as false. There's lots more I would like to say but I'm not involved in this generation's stuff. Wonder if those kids still feel like eating candy canes? Ugh. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 15:19:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBILJZ7w014747 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:19:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A856B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 8:47:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:47:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJDlo921152 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:47:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBJDlmkF004845 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:47:48 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBJDlmoC004843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:47:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:47:47 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups Message-ID: <20031219134747.GA4762@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031219010845.GH51743@words-l.org> <20031219035119.11099.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031219035119.11099.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Okay, Sweet Hog of Mine ("State Fair", Rodgers and = Hammerstein, 1962), can you pause in your hilarity to = answer a stupid question? Why am I being hounded by a = persistent little screen that reads "Virtual Memory = Too Low"? = What kink of OS do you have (it was a typo, but I like it, I like it)? If you have XP, right click on My Computer|Properties|Advanced|Performance Settings|Advanced| Change Virtual Memory (this is also control panel | system) For Windows 2000 right click on my computer|properties|advanced| performance options|virtual memory change You can either set it to System managed size (or something like that in Win2K) or set the initial size to 1.5 of your actual memory (that's what mine is set at, and I never see that message). So for 256 MB of memory, set the initial at 384 and the maximum at 768. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 16:10:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIMAb7w015746 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A857C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 9:38:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:38:57 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJEcv928135 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:38:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00222B7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 9:38:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312191438.hBJEcv928135@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:38:57 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:47:47 +0100, steph wrote: >What kink of OS do you have (it was a typo, but I like it, I like >it)? > Ooh, a personal question! Can anyone play? Our home cpu runs Windows over Linux. Does that make me a BWF (Bi/Windows Female)? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 16:15:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBIMFq7w015872 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:15:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85882@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 9:54:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:54:17 -0500 Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJEsH930856 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:54:17 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ5003G4DE24X@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:49:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:49:35 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Word Game To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <1fa7621fc08e.1fc08e1fa762@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There's a pretty addictive word scramble game "Fowl Words" available at http://www.kewlbox.com/games/game.cfm?gameId=91 for those so inclined. You might have to sign in there, but it's also available at http://www.fhm.com Have fun! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 17:30:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBINUj7w017135 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:30:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A85B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:09:09 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJG99914997 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:09:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219160904.UMY20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:09:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm thinking about him. Super, one of the beagles my mother raised starting with an eye-dropper, died at an old age of a nose tumor. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 17:55:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBINt57w017505 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:55:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85BE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:33:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJGNT917193 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:23:29 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJGM7DG001916 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:22:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:23:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs In-Reply-To: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm thinking about him. Super, >one of the beagles my mother raised starting with an eye-dropper, died >at an old age of a nose tumor. Okay - as soon as I can. Sometimes my students and I write a ransom note for Smokey's return - but so far we have not actually engaged in kidnapping er dognapping er Smokeynapping? Who is Super? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:08:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ08o7w017760 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:08:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A85CA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:47:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:47:15 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJGlF921720 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:47:15 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJGlCbV3751958 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:47:12 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:47:12 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi: >>Bring on Ralphie. > My favorite Christmas movie. I watch it every year. I saw the > lamp somewhere the other day. Yeah, I saw it for sale in one of those insufferable boomer-crap catalogs that appear like mushrooms this time of year. -- Richard, major award winner From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0Da7w017832 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85CE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:52:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:52:01 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJGq1922365 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:52:01 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJGpvbV5881862 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:51:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:51:57 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <20031219040225.31095.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031219040225.31095.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: > "Ole Yeller". But back then, they were unfamiliar > with manipulatives. For fans of "Wonderful Life", IMDb recommends "Bambi". -- Richard, remembering tha ASCII movie "Bambi v. Godzilla" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:15:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0F77w017874 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:15:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00222F8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:53:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:53:27 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f103.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJGrR922585 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:53:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:53:21 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:53:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Arthur miller interview question number 1 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:53:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Dec 2003 16:53:21.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C5CB2F0:01C3C650] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 1. Do you think that Marilyn Monroe should have married Henry instead of you? _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:19:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0J97w017943 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:19:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85D13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:57:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:57:34 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJGvX923431 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:57:33 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:57:28 PST Message-ID: <20031219165728.92990.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:57:28 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: WWJD To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000801c3c600$77cc8e60$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Thought I might refer her to the Urban Legends > page where, of course, it is identified as false. > There's lots more I would like to say but I'm > not involved in this generation's stuff. What criteria do the Urban legends employ to determine origins? I mean, which of them were around a the time of origination? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:19:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0JV7w017953 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:19:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85D1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:57:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJGvt923484 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBJGvpvX017905 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:57:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:58:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1951902691.20031219105842@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: High-Tech Coverups In-Reply-To: <188.22ff427a.2d143dc7@aol.com> References: <188.22ff427a.2d143dc7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 12/18/2003 9:52:03 PM Central Standard Time, > lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: > << > Why am I being hounded by a > persistent little screen that reads "Virtual Memory > Too Low"? >>> > When that happens on my computer, I just shut it down and > restart it. I try to find out what's being the memory hog and shut down that process if I can. Task Manager is your friend. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:20:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0KG7w017974 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:20:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A85D0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:58:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:58:41 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJGwf923559 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:58:41 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:58:32 PST Message-ID: <20031219165832.31121.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:58:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <188.22ff427a.2d143dc7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > When that happens on my computer, I just shut it > down and > restart it. 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:24:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0OB7w018029 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:24:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85D31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:02:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:02:36 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJH2Z924057 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:02:35 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:02:30 PST Message-ID: <20031219170230.88312.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031219134747.GA4762@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > What kink of OS do you have (it was a typo, but I > like it, I like > it)? > > If you have XP, right click on My > Computer|Properties|Advanced|Performance > Settings|Advanced| > Change Virtual Memory > (this is also control panel | system) I have Windows XP Home Version. Thanks for your help. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:27:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0R37w018066 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:27:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A85D55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:05:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:05:27 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJH5R924785 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:05:27 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:05:18 PST Message-ID: <20031219170518.23400.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:05:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm > thinking about him. Super, > >one of the beagles my mother raised starting with > an eye-dropper, died > >at an old age of a nose tumor. > > Okay - as soon as I can. Sometimes my students and I > write a ransom note > for Smokey's return - but so far we have not > actually engaged in > kidnapping er dognapping er Smokeynapping? > > Who is Super? Reread original post. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:42:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0gD7w018331 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:42:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85DCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:20:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:20:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJHAb925483 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:10:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJH9FDG020253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:09:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:10:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs In-Reply-To: <20031219170518.23400.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031219170518.23400.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >Reread original post. That is almost never possible - I do not archive them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 18:44:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ0iu7w018384 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:44:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A85DDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:23:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:23:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJHNB928100 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:23:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBJHN5vX013706 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:23:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:23:57 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1375881310.20031219112357@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Speaking of Dogs In-Reply-To: References: <20031219170518.23400.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >>Reread original post. > That is almost never possible - I do not archive them. That's why we have two public archives. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 19:11:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ1Bv7w018824 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:11:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A85EA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:50:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:50:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJHeL931156 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:40:21 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJHcwDG031231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:38:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:40:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: In case you have not heard Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What does Santa call his elves??? . . . . . . . . . . . . .......... Subordinate Clauses! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:00:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ20T7w019616 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:00:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A85FDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:38:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:38:52 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJIcq906748 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:38:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219183847.CXOV20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:38:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs References: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm thinking about him. Super, >>one of the beagles my mother raised starting with an eye-dropper, died >>at an old age of a nose tumor. > > Okay - as soon as I can. Sometimes my students and I write a ransom note > for Smokey's return - but so far we have not actually engaged in > kidnapping er dognapping er Smokeynapping? > > Who is Super? See my non-restrictive appositive above. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:03:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ23D7w019658 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:03:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A85FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJIfb907097 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219184132.CYMG20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:41:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3465B.7070605@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:41:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs References: <20031219170518.23400.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>Reread original post. > > That is almost never possible - I do not archive them. But Lynne quoted it in her reply to you -- in her "Reread original post" reply: >>>> >Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm >> >>> thinking about him. Super, >> >>>> >one of the beagles my mother raised starting with >> >>> an eye-dropper, died >> >>>> >at an old age of a nose tumor. >> >>> >>> Okay - as soon as I can. Sometimes my students and I >>> write a ransom note >>> for Smokey's return - but so far we have not >>> actually engaged in >>> kidnapping er dognapping er Smokeynapping? >>> >>> Who is Super? > > > Reread original post. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:10:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2Am7w019799 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:10:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86073@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:49:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:49:12 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJInB908509 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:49:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBJIn8Rp020343 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:49:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3c660$f0262e60$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031219165728.92990.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: WWJD Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:50:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > Thought I might refer her to the Urban Legends > > page where, of course, it is identified as false. > > There's lots more I would like to say but I'm > > not involved in this generation's stuff. > > > What criteria do the Urban legends employ to determine > origins? I mean, which of them were around a the time > of origination? Good question. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:11:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2Bc7w019821 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8607E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:50:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:50:02 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJIo2908694 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:50:02 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:49:54 PST Message-ID: <20031219184954.66727.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:49:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > That is almost never possible - I do not archive > them. Super was a dog of Natalie's acquaintance, fed in puppyhood with an eye dropper, who died at an advanced nose of a nose tumor. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2E57w019860 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:14:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86091@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:52:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:52:29 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJIqS909061 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:52:28 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:52:23 PST Message-ID: <20031219185223.20363.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:52:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: In case you have not heard To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > What does Santa call his elves??? > Subordinate Clauses! Some years, they are contract clauses - or outsourced clauses. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2L37w020049 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:21:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A860B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:59:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:59:27 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJIxQI10056 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:59:26 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ500E80OR2WR@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:54:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:54:59 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Arthur miller interview question number 1 To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <205075209164.209164205075@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Marty Rosen > 1. Do you think that Marilyn Monroe should have married Henry > instead of > you? :-) And if she did would you have taken her to Paris? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2Se7w020198 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:28:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A860D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:07:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:07:04 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJ71I11008 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:07:01 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBJJ70kF005370 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:07:00 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBJJ6xQZ005368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:06:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:06:59 +0100 From: steph To: words-l Subject: 'wegians Message-ID: <20031219190659.GA5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? A. He’s staring at your shoes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:32:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2Wq7w020300 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:32:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86108@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:11:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:11:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJBFI11743 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:11:15 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBJJBEkF005387 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:11:14 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBJJBDgB005385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:11:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:11:13 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad Message-ID: <20031219191113.GB5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031219040225.31095.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = Richard, remembering tha ASCII movie "Bambi v. Godzilla" No, no. Marv Newland. The best part besides the end was the credits. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:47:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2lI7w020518 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:47:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86155@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:25:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:25:41 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJPfI13802 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:25:41 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBJJPa4c011825 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:25:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:26:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1136619821.20031219132628@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: For Natalie's trip to NYC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A poem by Richard Avedon. SIGHT SORE To find oneself among the cream Of New York's social brace and beam One must see sights. One has to bare The Battery, Bronx, and God Knows Where. One simply has to circulate >From Ulysses S. Grant to the Empire State— >From the Museum of Art to that triple alliance, The museums of Industry, Nature and Science. Socially I've missed the mark. I never got further than Central Park! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 20:51:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ2pu7w020599 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:51:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8617E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:30:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:30:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJUJI14233 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:30:19 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBJJUG4c015482 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:30:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:31:09 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <482185072.20031219133109@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'wegians In-Reply-To: <20031219190659.GA5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031219190659.GA5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, steph wrote: > Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? > A. He’s staring at your shoes. I've heard the same joke many times before, with 'tech writer' substituted for 'Norwegian'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 21:04:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ3417w020789 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:04:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A861E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:42:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:42:24 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJgOI16492 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:42:24 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJJgNrW023263 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:42:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.4] (ip68-1-165-72.ri.ri.cox.net [68.1.165.72]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJJgNKk002378 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:42:23 -0500 X-Sender: jimb@etal.uri.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <18a1e41862bb.1862bb18a1e4@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:36:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: wintry hello Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hmmm...is Sunday the 28th better? I just heard from Jimmy, and he is going to California on the 27th. That doesn't preclude a gathering at The Red Cat, but I doubt that I'll be there. /Jim > >Marie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 21:08:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ38B7w020855 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:08:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJkYI16996 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00223457@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200312191946.hBJJkYI16996@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:46:34 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 'wegians To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBJJkYI16997 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:31:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 19, 2003, steph wrote: >> Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? >> A. He’s staring at your shoes. > >I've heard the same joke many times before, with 'tech writer' >substituted for 'Norwegian'. > >Karen I sat at a bar last night with an acquaintance who confided that for perhaps the first time in 2 years, he has a paycheck now. Startled, I asked what his occupation is: tech writer. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 21:13:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ3Dc7w020971 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:13:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8623A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:52:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:52:02 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJJq2I17803 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:52:02 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ500CROR66LM@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:47:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:47:28 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: wintry hello To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Message-id: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Okay, then, well that's a stroke of bad luck, but I leave it to the others -- which day is better? Natalie? Rashmeeber? Terry (you in?) Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Bradley Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:36 pm Subject: Re: wintry hello > >Hmmm...is Sunday the 28th better? > > I just heard from Jimmy, and he is going to California on the 27th. > > That doesn't preclude a gathering at The Red Cat, but I doubt that > I'll be there. > > /Jim > > > > >Marie > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 21:57:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ3vB7w021820 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:57:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8638B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:35:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:35:34 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJKZYI24129 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:35:34 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:35:24 PST Message-ID: <20031219203524.97015.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:35:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 'wegians To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031219190659.GA5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? > A. He’s staring at your shoes. But if you are wearing alligator shoes, he'll REALLY come out of his shell :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 21:59:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ3x37w021836 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:59:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022358D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:37:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:37:26 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJKbHI24383 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:37:17 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:37:11 PST Message-ID: <20031219203711.97523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:37:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: For Natalie's trip to NYC To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1136619821.20031219132628@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > A poem by Richard Avedon. > > SIGHT SORE > > To find oneself among the cream > Of New York's social brace and beam > One must see sights. One has to bare > The Battery, Bronx, and God Knows Where. > One simply has to circulate > From Ulysses S. Grant to the Empire State— > From the Museum of Art to that triple alliance, > The museums of Industry, Nature and Science. > Socially I've missed the mark. I never got further > than Central Park! :-] :-] Hej Natalie, refresh my memory. When do you leave? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4I27w022180 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:18:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86417@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:56:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:56:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJKjbI25570 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:45:38 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJKiFDG005379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:44:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs In-Reply-To: <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm thinking about him. Super, >>>one of the beagles my mother raised starting with an eye-dropper, died >>>at an old age of a nose tumor. >> >> Okay - as soon as I can. Sometimes my students and I write a ransom note >> for Smokey's return - but so far we have not actually engaged in >> kidnapping er dognapping er Smokeynapping? >> >> Who is Super? > >See my non-restrictive appositive above. > Thanks. It is still not clear to me what the relationship is between Super and our Smokey. Obviously, I am missing something - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:27:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4RK7w022308 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:27:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86473@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:05:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:05:43 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJL5hI28479 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:05:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219210536.JBSM1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:05:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE36820.70203@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:05:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wintry hello References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Okay, then, well that's a stroke of bad luck, but I leave it to the others -- which day is better? Natalie? Rashmeeber? Terry (you in?) Anything is ok with me. I'll arrive late afternoon the 25th and depart early morning the 29th. Everything in between is blank. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:27:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4Rv7w022319 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86475@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:06:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:06:20 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJL6KI28565 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:06:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219210615.JCAB1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:06:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE36844.9080607@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:06:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Natalie's trip to NYC References: <20031219203711.97523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031219203711.97523.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Hej Natalie, refresh my memory. When do you leave? Thursday morning. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:29:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4Tv7w022345 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:29:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86484@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:08:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:08:20 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJL8JI28805 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:08:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219210814.JCYM1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE368BE.9040500@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:08:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs References: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Thanks. It is still not clear to me what the relationship is between > Super and our Smokey. Obviously, I am missing something - Apparently you are. I didn't realize that you didn't know that Smokey is retiring because he has a nose tumor. He'll be at the bowl game but will ride in elegance instead of running out with the players. The vets say that they caught it early and that they're hoping he will have some happy retirement time. Smokey IX will be in place by the beginning of next fb season. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:31:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4VZ7w022394 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:31:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86484@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:09:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:09:58 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJL9vI28910 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:09:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.179]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031219210952.JDON1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE36920.80404@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 15:09:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs References: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> <3FE368BE.9040500@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FE368BE.9040500@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I read about Smokey in today's Starkville Daily News. It does not appear to be in the online edition, though. The SDN website is quite sucky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:39:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4dA7w022519 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A864AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:17:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 155567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:17:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJL7WI28724 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:07:32 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJL6ADG013294 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:06:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:07:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: In case you have not heard In-Reply-To: <20031219185223.20363.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031219185223.20363.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> What does Santa call his elves??? >> Subordinate Clauses! > >Some years, they are contract clauses - or outsourced clauses. I don't know that I can work that last one into my modern grammar class! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:54:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4s47w022792 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:54:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00223727@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:32:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:32:26 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBJLWQU32111 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:32:26 -0500 Received: from [209.192.121.152] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:32:20 PST Message-ID: <20031219213220.14790.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Thanks. It is still not clear to me what the > relationship is between > Super and our Smokey. Obviously, I am missing > something - Have you checked Smokey's nose lately? At least, that's the connection I made. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 22:59:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ4xu7w022910 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:59:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8654B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:38:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 156892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:38:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJLSDU31592 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:28:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJLQpDG020240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:26:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:28:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs In-Reply-To: <3FE368BE.9040500@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> <3FE368BE.9040500@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Thanks. It is still not clear to me what the relationship is between >> Super and our Smokey. Obviously, I am missing something - > >Apparently you are. I didn't realize that you didn't know that Smokey >is retiring because he has a nose tumor. He'll be at the bowl game but All is now clear - thank you! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 23:05:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ55U7w023025 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:05:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8654E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:43:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:43:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJLhrU01034 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:43:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBJLhaW1010195 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:43:37 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBJLhaWq010178 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:43:36 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:38:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: wintry hello In-Reply-To: <3FE36820.70203@maynor.net> References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:05 PM 12/19/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>Okay, then, well that's a stroke of bad luck, but I leave it to the >>others -- which day is better? Natalie? Rashmeeber? Terry (you in?) > >Anything is ok with me. I'll arrive late afternoon the 25th and depart >early morning the 29th. Everything in between is blank. I hope your ear drums don't pop. Ask you clinician about flying with your ear problems. Then listen to this. http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 18 23:23:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ5NG7w023344 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:23:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:01:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:01:39 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJM1cU03808 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:01:39 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-106.gwi.net [216.195.153.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBJM1a57048151 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:01:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031219170101.00b2ea00@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:01:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Dogs In-Reply-To: References: <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> <3FE322A0.1020704@maynor.net> <3FE345B7.8010904@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>>Bethany -- Please tell Smokey VIII that I'm thinking about him. Super, > >>>one of the beagles my mother raised starting with an eye-dropper, died > >>>at an old age of a nose tumor. > >Thanks. It is still not clear to me what the relationship is between >Super and our Smokey. Obviously, I am missing something - >Bethany Just a guess, from context, I'd say that Smokey VIII has come down with a nose tumor. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 00:03:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ63N7w024002 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:03:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8676D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:41:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:41:45 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJMfj409303 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:41:45 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJMfjrW029673 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:41:45 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJMfjKj005197 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:41:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:39:36 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wintry hello Message-ID: <1562684031.1071855576@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Okay, then, well that's a stroke of bad luck, but I leave it to the > others -- which day is better? Natalie? Rashmeeber? Terry (you in?) > > Marie I'd like..... I'll do some checking. My preferred day would be Saturday. But do whatever works best for those of you all ready there. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:09:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ79Q7w025471 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:09:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A868BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:47:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:47:48 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJNll416502 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:47:47 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.1c7.13378571 (4222) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:47:35 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <1c7.13378571.2d14e816@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:47:34 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] High-Tech Coverups To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/19/2003 10:58:02 AM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << I try to find out what's being the memory hog and shut down that process if I can. Task Manager is your friend. >> I see it only when I leave the computer on all day; Catznap runs all day and probably is the memory hog. So, I shut the computer down before I leave for work. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:15:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ7F97w025571 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:15:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A868BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:53:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:53:30 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJNrU417000 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:53:30 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBJNrRbV6471754 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:53:27 -0600 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:53:27 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <20031219191113.GB5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031219040225.31095.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031219191113.GB5362@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, steph wrote: > = Richard, remembering tha ASCII movie "Bambi v. Godzilla" > No, no. Marv Newland. The best part besides the end was the > credits. heh. I didn't know the ASCII movie had (and by "roots", I mean "they stole his idea"). And they didn't even steal the funniest part, 'cuz I don't recall any credits. -- Richard, brought to you by Mr. and Mrs. Scheidt From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:20:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ7Kd7w025664 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:20:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A868C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:59:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:59:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBJNx1417455 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:59:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBJNwp4c010350 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:58:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:59:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <555381918.20031219175944@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: High-Tech Coverups In-Reply-To: <1c7.13378571.2d14e816@aol.com> References: <1c7.13378571.2d14e816@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I see it only when I leave the computer on all day; Catznap > runs all day and probably is the memory hog. So, I shut the > computer down before I leave for work. For me, it's often Internet Explorer. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:31:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ7VF7w025823 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:31:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00223AD7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:09:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:09:30 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK09U418654 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:09:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220000924.HILW20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:09:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:09:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I hope your ear drums don't pop. Ask you clinician about flying with your > ear problems. Exactly what is a clinician? One who inhabits a clinic, I bet. Is my doctor's office a clinic? I went to see him this afternoon. Called this morning and was able to get an appointment for 3:45. I took the medicine remains with me to show him what the ER doctor had prescribed. He approved of the choices but said it's always better to avoid ERs -- that you sit there waiting for hours and catching who knows what. He said that the Z medicine Zithrowhatever would continue to work for several more days even though I took the last pill this morning -- that otherwise he would prescribe some more. Instead, though, he prescribed something named Prednisone. And he prescribed more of the same "for congestion" pills the ER doctor had prescribed, saying that I needed more of them that I had left. (I later wondered about that. I have enough of the old ones left to last several more days. He prescribed enough to last several weeks.) And he prescribed a cough syrup that he said had one of the same ingredients as the pain pills and that if I wanted to use them instead, that was ok. I asked him which would be better for the cough, and he said the syrup probably would, so I'm going to use it instead of the pain pills since the worst of the ear pain has subsided. He first looked at my ears and said that indeed I was right -- that I had an ear problem -- that the eardrums were funny-looking -- something about strange colors and shapes and debris, I think. I asked him whether this stuff would make me better by next Thursday, telling him that I was flying to NYC that day, and he said that he hoped so. I will still be a walking medicine cabinet, of course. (But I won't be a threat to others since funny-looking eardrums aren't catagious.) > Then listen to this. > > http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html I had to turn the volume way up to hear it, but it was of course worth it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:37:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ7bY7w025911 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:37:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86929@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:15:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:15:56 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK0Fu419191 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:15:56 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK0Fq4c023026 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:15:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:16:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1489962211.20031219181645@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) In-Reply-To: <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Instead, though, he prescribed something named Prednisone. Did he warn you about the side effects of this? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:55:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ7tF7w026164 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:55:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8693B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK0NZ419731 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220002330.BLAE17885.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE39683.9000100@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:23:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> <1489962211.20031219181645@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1489962211.20031219181645@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>Instead, though, he prescribed something named Prednisone. > > Did he warn you about the side effects of this? He didn't say anything about side-effects, but Wmart of course gave me the usual sheet of info. I haven't looked at it yet. Actually, he did say something, now that I think about it. When he handed me the prescriptions, he said something like, "You're gonna be pretty doped up with all this stuff." I said that was ok, that it was a good time in my life since I had few commitments for right now -- nothing but a couple of parties that I might or might not bother going to. I'll be so glad when I can hear again. I saw a friend in Wmart when I went to get the prescriptions filled, but we couldn't have a conversation since I couldn't hear. Ditto somebody else I ran into earlier today in Winn-Dixie. And I couldn't hear the nurse call my name at the doctor's office, even though I was sitting right by the door she was standing in. When nobody else got up, I said, "Did you by any chance say Natalie Maynor?" She nodded. I could hear my doctor a bit better since he has a louder voice that the mousy nurse and since he probably realized he needed to talk loud enough to penetrate the gunked ears. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 01:55:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ7tF7w026165 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:55:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86953@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:31:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK0LT419621 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:21:29 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBK0K7DG014395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:20:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) In-Reply-To: <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >He said that the Z medicine Zithrowhatever would continue to work for >several more days even though I took the last pill this morning -- that >otherwise he would prescribe some more. Instead, though, he prescribed >something named Prednisone. And he prescribed more of the same "for [etc.] One's best friend re prescription drugs is usually an excellent pharmacist. I often get my best advice from mine. Two weeks ago, a friend of mine, at wit's end because of conflicting medical advice re prescriptions went, at my suggestion to Long's for advice - she got what she needed and her problems ended. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 02:09:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ89h7w026381 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:09:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86992@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:48:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 167670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:48:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK0m4421965 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:48:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00223B29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:48:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312200048.hBK0m4421965@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:48:04 -0500 From: Janet Hardy Subject: next weekend? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So, are we or are we not getting together next weekend in NYC? At this point, we need to fish or cut bait -- I have other plans to make. Could someone please get in touch with me and let me know what is or isn't going on? Thanks, Janet verdie@earthlink.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 02:14:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ8Dw7w026459 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 02:13:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86989@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 167811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:52:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK0qJ422396 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:52:19 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBK0qI2f014024 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:52:18 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBK0qGJC014007; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:52:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031219165404.00aee540@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:55:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) In-Reply-To: <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:09 PM 12/19/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > >>I hope your ear drums don't pop. Ask you clinician about flying with your >>ear problems. > >Exactly what is a clinician? We call our health care providers here clinicians because the term includes nurse practitioners, doctors, physician assistants. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 03:42:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ9gj7w027944 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:42:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86A35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:21:05 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK2L5428312 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:21:05 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:20:59 PST Message-ID: <20031220022059.3889.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:20:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1c7.13378571.2d14e816@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I try to find out what's being the memory hog and > shut down that > process if I can. Task Manager is your friend. > >> > > I see it only when I leave the computer on all day; > Catznap > runs all day and probably is the memory hog. So, I > shut the > computer down before I leave for work. That may be part of my problem. I do leave it on all day, which is just sheer laziness. I received good advice from everyone who responded, and thing the problem is solved, but I'll also remember to TURN IT OFF. Evelyn, what's catznap? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 03:48:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJ9mR7w028012 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:48:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86A3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:26:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:26:47 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK2Ql428638 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:26:47 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-106.gwi.net [216.195.153.106]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBK2QS59085289; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:26:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031219211743.00b65160@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:26:04 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: more photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Today was a beautiful day---clear, bright, temperature right about freezing or a little above, not much wind. I took one of my favorite carriage-road walks, one that I've written about before on words-l---the loop past Upper Hadlock Pond and the waterfall. This time I took the digital camera. Selected results are at: http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt under the title Winter Walk. cwv getting closer to ordering that digital SLR From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:17:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAHP7w028375 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:17:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00223C22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:55:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:55:45 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK2tj430532 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:55:45 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:55:31 PST Message-ID: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE39683.9000100@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > >>Instead, though, he prescribed something named > Prednisone. > > > > Did he warn you about the side effects of this? Please read the product info sheet carefully. Prednisone is a steroid, so is powerful stuff. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:22:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAMp7w028455 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:22:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86A9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:01:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:01:11 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK31A430966 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:01:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:01:04 PST Message-ID: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > One's best friend re prescription drugs is usually > an excellent > pharmacist. I often get my best advice from mine. I think a majority of us may consult our pharmacists, but I'd be a bit careful about spreading the information far and wide. A pharmacist has no license to diagnose or prescribe, and he doesn't need any troubles with authorities. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:27:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJARv7w028522 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86A8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:06:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:06:17 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK36H431314 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:06:17 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031220030611013006lk29e> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:06:11 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: more photos Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:06:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031219211743.00b65160@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > camera. Selected results are at: > > http://community.webshots.com/user/cwvoigt Very nice. > cwv > getting closer to ordering that digital SLR Santa came early for me and brought me a Canon PowerShot S400, a tiny little thing. My Minolta DiMage S414 was just too big and bulky to be convenient, plus its auto-focus didn't work worth a hoot. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJATE7w028536 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:29:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00223C4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:07:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:07:34 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK37Y431421 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:07:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220030729.SXLF12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3BCF1.4050708@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:07:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > One's best friend re prescription drugs is usually an excellent > pharmacist. I often get my best advice from mine. > > Two weeks ago, a friend of mine, at wit's end because of conflicting > medical advice re prescriptions went, at my suggestion to Long's for > advice - she got what she needed and her problems ended. ? How can one get prescription medicine from a pharmacist without a prescription? And why would one have conflicting medical advice re prescriptions? Running around to various doctors? Maybe it was just luck that the ER doctor and my regular doctor saw eye-to-eye on the appropriate prescriptions for my malady. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:30:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAUu7w028585 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:30:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86AAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:09:16 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK39G431519 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:09:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220030911.SYAP12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:09:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3BD58.1060606@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:09:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: verdie@EARTHLINK.NET Subject: Re: next weekend? References: <200312200048.hBK0m4421965@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312200048.hBK0m4421965@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > So, are we or are we not getting together next weekend in NYC? At this > point, we need to fish or cut bait -- I have other plans to make. Could > someone please get in touch with me and let me know what is or isn't going on? > > Thanks, > Janet > verdie@earthlink.net We need a leader!! Is Rashmi coming? She's a good decision-maker. Speak, Rashmi (and be sure to cc Verdant -- she's being cc'ed on this reply). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:34:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAYH7w028613 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86AAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:12:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:12:38 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK3Cb431707 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:12:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220031232.SZDM12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3BE21.40205@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:12:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031219211743.00b65160@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031219211743.00b65160@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Brrrr. But pretty pictures! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:35:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAZE7w028623 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:35:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00223C88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:13:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:13:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK33X431142 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:03:33 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBK329DG025572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:02:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:03:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) In-Reply-To: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> One's best friend re prescription drugs is usually >> an excellent >> pharmacist. I often get my best advice from mine. > > >I think a majority of us may consult our pharmacists, >but I'd be a bit careful about spreading the >information far and wide. A pharmacist has no license Heck, I don't tell ANYBODY! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:39:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAd77w028670 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:39:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86AB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK3HR432023 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220031722.TAUS12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3BF42.9000900@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:17:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Please read the product info sheet carefully. > Prednisone is a steroid, so is powerful stuff. I looked at it after Karen mentioned side-effects but didn't notice anything frightening. It said something about possibly keeping you awake, and that reminded me that my doctor did mention that. When I asked if if I was supposed to take all four pills at the same time, he said yes -- like at whatever time of day I chose. Then he said that on second thought I should probably take them in the morning after today -- to go on and take the first dose when I got home with the prescription late this afternoon but then to switch to mornings because some people found this medicine a stimulant. I took the first four-pill dose whenever I first got home from Wmart -- between 5 and 5:30 -- and haven't noticed any particular effect. Aren't steroids what athletes take to run faster or whatever? I wonder what that has to do with fluid behind eardrums. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:40:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAeG7w028689 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:40:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86AB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:18:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:18:37 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK3Ia432084 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:18:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220031831.TBEB12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:18:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3BF87.4030607@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:18:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > I think a majority of us may consult our pharmacists, > but I'd be a bit careful about spreading the > information far and wide. A pharmacist has no license > to diagnose or prescribe, and he doesn't need any > troubles with authorities. :-] I never even see the pharmacists. Youths work at the drop-off and pick-up windows at Wmart. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:42:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAgR7w028708 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:42:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:20:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 170752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:20:47 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK3Kl432198 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:20:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.212.162.45]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220032041.TBWL12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:20:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE3C00A.2050405@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:20:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: more photos References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > Santa came early for me and brought me a Canon PowerShot S400, a tiny little Neat! I love my Canon PowerShot. It's a lesser model than yours, but I bet yours feels good just as mine does. ... I just pulled it out of the drawer -- it's an A20. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 04:58:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJAwl7w028966 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:58:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86AE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:37:07 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK3b6400971 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:37:06 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:36:57 PST Message-ID: <20031220033657.85320.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:36:57 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Heck, I don't tell ANYBODY! You just did. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:00:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJB0P7w029017 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:00:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86AE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:38:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:38:46 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK3cj401049 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:38:45 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:38:40 PST Message-ID: <20031220033840.13175.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: more photos To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > Santa came early for me and brought me a Canon > PowerShot S400, a tiny little > thing. My Minolta DiMage S414 was just too big and > bulky to be convenient, > plus its auto-focus didn't work worth a hoot. You have been a VERY good boy.:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:05:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJB5Y7w029131 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:05:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86B10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:43:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:43:54 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK3hs401574 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:43:54 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:43:49 PST Message-ID: <20031220034349.70755.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:43:49 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE3BF42.9000900@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Aren't steroids what athletes take to run faster or > whatever? I wonder > what that has to do with fluid behind eardrums. Yes to steroids and athletes. As to ears, that is not within my ken. But if you've no effects by now, you're probably fine. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:05:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJB5v7w029136 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:05:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A86B08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:44:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:44:17 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK3iG401616 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:44:16 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.61.3955383e (4468) for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:44:05 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <61.3955383e.2d151f85@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:44:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] High-Tech Coverups To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/19/2003 8:21:27 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Evelyn, what's catznap? >> Catz is a program that I have on my computer; in it, you can select any of 5 different catz; Catznap is the screensaver part of it. When Sweetie was a kitten, she loved to watch the cat on the computer screen. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:09:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJB9n7w029202 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:09:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86B1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:48:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:47:29 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK3lT401861 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:47:29 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:47:24 PST Message-ID: <20031220034724.38087.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <61.3955383e.2d151f85@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Catz is a program that I have on my computer; in it, > you can > select any of 5 different catz; Catznap is the > screensaver part > of it. When Sweetie was a kitten, she loved to > watch the > cat on the computer screen. Thanks. Speaking of Sweetie, how are things in the animal kingdom? And how is your mom? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:33:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBXV7w029563 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:33:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86D7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:11:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:11:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4Bp406224 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:11:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4BlvX008673 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:11:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:12:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1898034004.20031219221241@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: High-Tech Coverups In-Reply-To: <20031220022059.3889.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031220022059.3889.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: >> I try to find out what's being the memory hog and >> shut down that >> process if I can. Task Manager is your friend. >> >> >> >> I see it only when I leave the computer on all day; >> Catznap >> runs all day and probably is the memory hog. So, I >> shut the >> computer down before I leave for work. > That may be part of my problem. I do leave it on all > day, which is just sheer laziness. I don't think that is normally an issue. I go for weeks without turning mine off. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:35:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBZ37w029575 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:35:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86D70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:23 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4DN406409 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00223F7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:22 -0500 Message-Id: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:22 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:43:49 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Aren't steroids what athletes take to run faster or >> whatever? I wonder >> what that has to do with fluid behind eardrums. > >Yes to steroids and athletes. As to ears, that is not >within my ken. But if you've no effects by now, >you're probably fine. > Steroids reduce inflammation (swelling) - it's the pressure in the ears that's causing your pain, and also blocking the tubes to affect your hearing (and incidentally, permitting infections to fester there - your ear canal tissue probably swelled due to a mild cold, closing them off and creating the climate in which your ear infection grew). People like my mother, who has rheumatoid arthritis, in which the swelling stretches tendons and contributes to crippling, often take prednisone and other similar drugs. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:35:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBZ57w029579 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86D8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4DP406415 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:25 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4DM4c029791 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:13:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:14:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Please read the product info sheet carefully. > Prednisone is a steroid, so is powerful stuff. A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build extra muscle. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:36:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBa07w029598 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:36:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86D79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:14:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:14:20 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4EK406559 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:14:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4EGvX010265 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:14:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:15:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1051778012.20031219221511@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) In-Reply-To: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031220030104.96089.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > I think a majority of us may consult our pharmacists, > but I'd be a bit careful about spreading the > information far and wide. A pharmacist has no license > to diagnose or prescribe, and he doesn't need any > troubles with authorities. :-] I trust me far more than I trust a pharmacist. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:39:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBdc7w029653 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:39:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86D9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:17:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:17:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4Hw406885 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:17:58 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4GppJ028258 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:16:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:18:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > People like my mother, who has rheumatoid arthritis, in > which the swelling stretches tendons and contributes to > crippling, often take prednisone and other similar drugs. Alyce took it. I got into trouble with her for talking about the side effects. It's an evil, evil drug, but nothing works like it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBgX7w029699 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:42:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86DA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 176895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:20:53 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK4Kp407124 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:20:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:20:44 PST Message-ID: <20031220042044.17950.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:20:44 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: High-Tech Coverups To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1898034004.20031219221241@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I don't think that is normally an issue. I go for > weeks without > turning mine off. Okay. Thanks! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:47:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBl27w029767 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:47:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86D9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:25:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:25:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4PM407853 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:25:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00223FD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:25:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312200425.hBK4PM407853@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:25:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: BrP stands tall! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Carolyn Ostrander Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just returned from Amahl and the Night Visitors. Paul is certainly getting a workout, and I enjoyed the puppets tremendously. It was lovely and fun, thanks BrP! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:50:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBoH7w029808 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:50:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86DC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:28:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:28:37 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK4SZ408080 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:28:36 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:28:29 PST Message-ID: <20031220042829.19408.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:28:29 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > People like my mother, who has rheumatoid arthritis, > in > which the swelling stretches tendons and contributes > to > crippling, often take prednisone and other similar > drugs. An acquaintance of mine was diagnosed as having lupus, and Prednisone was prescribed. It turned out to be a misdiagnosis (I think lupus is hard to pin down), and the Prednisone had nearly permanently damaged her health. This may have been due to the quantity that she had taken. Any competent doctor surely knows its properties, and appears to be a highly effective drug. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:51:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBpH7w029814 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:51:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86DC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:29:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:29:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4Ta408126 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:29:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4SUpJ005381 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:28:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:30:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <212455341.20031219223029@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! In-Reply-To: <200312200425.hBK4PM407853@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312200425.hBK4PM407853@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I just returned from Amahl and the Night Visitors. > Paul is certainly getting a workout, and I enjoyed > the puppets tremendously. It was lovely and fun, > thanks BrP! YaY! Was it well attended? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:52:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBqU7w029825 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:52:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86DC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:49 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBK4Um408254 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:49 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:30:41 PST Message-ID: <20031220043041.47621.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:30:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312200425.hBK4PM407853@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I just returned from Amahl and the Night Visitors. > Paul is certainly getting a workout, and I enjoyed > the puppets tremendously. It was lovely and fun, > thanks BrP! I would love to have seen it! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 05:52:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJBqW7w029830 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:52:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86DAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4Uq408260 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4ThpJ006128 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:29:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:31:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10177815.20031219223141@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <20031220042829.19408.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031220042829.19408.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > An acquaintance of mine was diagnosed as having lupus, > and Prednisone was prescribed. It turned out to be a > misdiagnosis (I think lupus is hard to pin down), and > the Prednisone had nearly permanently damaged her > health. This may have been due to the quantity that > she had taken. Any competent doctor surely knows its > properties, and appears to be a highly effective drug. It *can* be effective, but, as your acquaintance will testify, it can also be really awful. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCDi7w030071 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:13:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00223FEF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:52:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:52:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4q3409802 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:52:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224022@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:52:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200312200452.hBK4q3409802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:52:03 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:30:29 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I just returned from Amahl and the Night Visitors. >> Paul is certainly getting a workout, and I enjoyed >> the puppets tremendously. It was lovely and fun, >> thanks BrP! > >YaY! Was it well attended? > >Karen Yes, full house - in spite of being in conflict with Syracuse Stage's Wizard of Oz (another friend of mine is the Cowardly Lion). I got to see my other friend Karen, the puzzlemaker - her sisterinlaw is one of the puppeteers. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:21:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCLC7w030167 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:21:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86E23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:59:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 178014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:59:31 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f55.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK4xV410339 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:59:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:59:25 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.129 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:59:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.129] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Trial of the century Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:59:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 04:59:25.0629 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A566ED0:01C3C6B6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael Jackson or Saddam Hussein? 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Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:40:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCeT7w030453 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:40:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86E88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 0:18:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 178527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:18:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK502410448 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:00:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK4xwvX008024 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:59:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:00:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3168126.20031219230052@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: BrP stands tall! In-Reply-To: <200312200452.hBK4q3409802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312200452.hBK4q3409802@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yes, full house - in spite of being in conflict with > Syracuse Stage's Wizard of Oz (another friend of mine > is the Cowardly Lion). Doubleyay! > I got to see my other friend Karen, the puzzlemaker - > her sisterinlaw is one of the puppeteers. Kewl. Someday I hope to be here long enough that I run into people I know when I go out. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:42:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCgD7w030478 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:42:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002240E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 0:20:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:19:23 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK5Ft412568 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:15:55 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBK5FoRp023989 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:15:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Catching up Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:16:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBJCgD7w030478 Sara is here. Have been listening to stories from her trip to India. Fasssssscccccinating. Poor girl. So much to learn. So little time. She loved it! But I'm afraid they gave her a hard time. If I had been there, a few well-placed personalities would have had to deal with me. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:44:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCi57w030507 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:44:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86F6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 0:22:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:22:24 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f10.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK5MO413418 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:22:24 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:22:18 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.129 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:22:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.129] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: verdie@earthlink.net Subject: Re: next weekend? Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:22:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 05:22:18.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C912360:01C3C6B9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >We need a leader!! Is Rashmi coming? She's a good decision-maker. >Speak, Rashmi (and be sure to cc Verdant -- she's being cc'ed on this >reply). Eeek, I wasn't paying attention. We're still thinking of dinner at Red Cat, right? Does Saturday night work for everybody? (Janet, so far we have Natalie, Marie, me, with Theresa and chopped liver as maybes. Natalie and I will be around Friday and Saturday if you'd like to do something else.) _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:46:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCk47w030556 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:46:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A86F56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 0:24:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:24:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK5ON413576 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:24:23 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBK5OIvX021037 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:24:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:25:13 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1266815350.20031219232513@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catching up In-Reply-To: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> References: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > Sara is here. Have been listening to > stories from her trip to India. > Fasssssscccccinating. Poor girl. > So much to learn. So little time. > She loved it! But I'm afraid they > gave her a hard time. If I had been > there, a few well-placed personalities > would have had to deal with me. > - D. M. For some reason, a certain Elizabeth Peters character comes to mind... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 06:51:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJCpM7w030650 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 06:51:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A86F75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 0:29:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:29:41 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBK5Tf413970 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:29:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBK5TbRp019112 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:29:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3c6ba$672b1800$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> <1266815350.20031219232513@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Re: Catching up Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:30:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Friday, December 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: > > Sara is here. Have been listening to > > stories from her trip to India. > > Fasssssscccccinating. Poor girl. > > So much to learn. So little time. > > She loved it! But I'm afraid they > > gave her a hard time. If I had been > > there, a few well-placed personalities > > would have had to deal with me. > > - D. M. > > For some reason, a certain Elizabeth Peters character comes to mind... > > Karen Explain, please. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 12:57:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJIvA7w004131 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:57:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A871F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 6:35:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:35:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKBZQ405708 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:35:26 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.a2.4088aaaf (4402) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:35:18 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:35:17 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] High-Tech Coverups To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/19/2003 9:48:17 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << Thanks. Speaking of Sweetie, how are things in the animal kingdom? And how is your mom? >> Mom's fine; she doesn't have to go to the doctor again for 4 months. Sometimes Sweetie will rub against Bennie; sometimes she'll hiss at him. I wish I didn't have to go to work today; I have too much to do here. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 14:19:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJKJA7w005523 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:19:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 7:57:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:57:26 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKCvP410808 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:57:26 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ700B1Q2NPHR@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:52:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:52:57 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: next weekend? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2368132337d9.2337d9236813@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Rashmi Murthy > Eeek, I wasn't paying attention. We're still thinking of dinner at > Red Cat, > right? > > Does Saturday night work for everybody? Yes. Yes. And it isn't really a big group so we don't have do go as early as we had originally said -- maybe more like 6:30 and that's still really early... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 14:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJKht7w005877 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:43:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A872A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 8:12:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:12:10 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKDCA412055 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:12:10 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ700BN93CAZP@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:07:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:07:42 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: next weekend? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <255b39251cd3.251cd3255b39@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And once I have a headcount I'll make a reservation. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Ascher <14lodge@optonline.net> Date: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:52 am Subject: Re: next weekend? > From: Rashmi Murthy > > Eeek, I wasn't paying attention. We're still thinking of dinner at > > Red Cat, > > right? > > > > Does Saturday night work for everybody? > > Yes. Yes. And it isn't really a big group so we don't have do go > as early as we had originally said -- maybe more like 6:30 and > that's still really early... > > Marie > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 14:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJKht7w005878 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:43:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A872AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 8:13:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:13:27 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKDDR412123 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:13:27 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ700LN03E5O5@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:08:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:08:58 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: next weekend? To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU, verdie@EARTHLINK.NET Message-id: <23b7742390c2.2390c223b774@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does Saturday at 6:30 at the Red Cat work for you and the dudes? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Hardy Date: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:48 pm Subject: next weekend? > So, are we or are we not getting together next weekend in NYC? At this > point, we need to fish or cut bait -- I have other plans to make. > Couldsomeone please get in touch with me and let me know what is > or isn't going on? > > Thanks, > Janet > verdie@earthlink.net > From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 14:48:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJKmi7w005958 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:48:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A872B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 8:26:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:27:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKDH0412401 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:17:00 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKDFaDG026801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:15:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:16:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE3BCF1.4050708@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <2206432250c2.2250c2220643@optonline.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20031219133707.00b96930@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE39335.2090106@maynor.net> <3FE3BCF1.4050708@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> One's best friend re prescription drugs is usually an excellent >> pharmacist. I often get my best advice from mine. >> >> Two weeks ago, a friend of mine, at wit's end because of conflicting >> medical advice re prescriptions went, at my suggestion to Long's for >> advice - she got what she needed and her problems ended. > >? How can one get prescription medicine from a pharmacist without a >prescription? So far as I know, one cannot. Please note that I referenced . And why would one have conflicting medical advice re >prescriptions? Running around to various doctors? Maybe it was just >luck that the ER doctor and my regular doctor saw eye-to-eye on the >appropriate prescriptions for my malady. Needing emergency attention over a weekend and getting advice and prescriptions from the ER different from one's regular dr. Or, as in my friend's case, having both a reg dr and a psychiatrist - plus, on this occasion, an ER visit - and continuing symptoms. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 19 14:50:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBJKom7w006004 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:50:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A872C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 8:29:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 120940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:29:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKDJ3412564 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:19:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKDHeDG027201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:17:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:19:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) In-Reply-To: <20031220033657.85320.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220033657.85320.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" >wrote: > >> Heck, I don't tell ANYBODY! > >You just did. I did NOT tell you what my pharmacist told me! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:31:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEVJ7w007093 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:31:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A872E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:04:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:04:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKE4u415590 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:04:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002244C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:04:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201404.hBKE4u415590@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:04:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:00:52 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Yes, full house - in spite of being in conflict with >> Syracuse Stage's Wizard of Oz (another friend of mine >> is the Cowardly Lion). > >Doubleyay! > >> I got to see my other friend Karen, the puzzlemaker - >> her sisterinlaw is one of the puppeteers. > >Kewl. > >Someday I hope to be here long enough that I run into people I know >when I go out. > >Karen I run into people I know almost everywhere I go - I was in the Armadillo one night and ran into a guy who lived as my neighbor in the other half of a duplex rented by abr 20 students in PA. I think of Austin as a place where everyone turns up, eventually - part of what keeps it weird, I guess. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:31:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEVJ7w007094 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:31:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A872EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:16:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:16:05 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f16.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.16]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEFp416747 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:15:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:15:45 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.183 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:15:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.183] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Elizabeth Peters Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:15:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 14:15:45.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[C28D3810:01C3C703] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Elizabeth Peters wrote whodunits set in Egypt (?) in Victorian times. > >I think Karen's referring to the protaganist in these books - she's > >gutsy, ahead of her times etc. I haven't read the books myself... I can tell. So what did I get wrong? All of it, probably. _________________________________________________________________ It’s our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:31:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEVJ7w007092 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:31:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A872E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:01:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:01:15 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f48.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKE1F415362 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:01:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:01:06 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.183 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:01:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.183] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Elizabeth Peters Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:01:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 14:01:06.0139 (UTC) FILETIME=[B626B2B0:01C3C701] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Elizabeth Peters wrote whodunits set in Egypt (?) in Victorian times. I think Karen's referring to the protaganist in these books - she's gutsy, ahead of her times etc. I haven't read the books myself... I'm glad Sara's back. My friend, Edie, is in Bangalore for two weeks and met my folks the other day. They have all sorts of events planned together. I can't wait to hear her take on the trip. _________________________________________________________________ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:38:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEca7w007252 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:38:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224501@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:08:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:08:31 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKE8V415972 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:08:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002244FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:08:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201408.hBKE8V415972@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:08:30 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Elizabeth Peters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:01:05 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Elizabeth Peters wrote whodunits set in Egypt (?) in Victorian times. >I think Karen's referring to the protaganist in these books - she's >gutsy, ahead of her times etc. I haven't read the books myself... I can tell. >I'm glad Sara's back. > >My friend, Edie, is in Bangalore for two weeks and met my folks >the other day. They have all sorts of events planned together. >I can't wait to hear her take on the trip. > I am so envious of all this travelling. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7w008225 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:40:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:40:24 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEeO418857 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:40:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220144019.BRPZ1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:40:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE45F53.6080208@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:40:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Steroids reduce inflammation (swelling) - it's the pressure > in the ears that's causing your pain, and also blocking the > tubes to affect your hearing (and incidentally, permitting > infections to fester there - your ear canal tissue probably > swelled due to a mild cold, closing them off and creating > the climate in which your ear infection grew). Thanks for the explanation! The pain was on the wane, presumably from the Zithwhatever, which, as I said yesterday, my doctor said is still at work even though I'm through taking it (its package also said that). But the not hearing and the stuffed-ear feeling was no better at all, maybe worse. I've watched a couple of tv movies lately, including "Christmas Carol" last night, and I wished for subtitles. It didn't matter much for "CC" since I kind of knew the words anyway, but it would have helped with the Hallmark movie I watched night before last. It's odd to watch a movie when it literally does mean watching -- as in watching only -- not hearing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7x008227 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87350@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:36 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEpa419794 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220145131.BUAT1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE461F3.80403@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:51:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trial of the century References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Michael Jackson or Saddam Hussein? > > I can't decide. So far in the century or the whole century? I would not be willing to go with either of the above for the whole century, unless the century turns out to be quite bland. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7x008228 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87356@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:52:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:30 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEqU419959 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220145225.BUFB1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE46229.90601@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:52:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Catching up References: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Sara is here. Have been listening to > stories from her trip to India. > Fasssssscccccinating. Poor girl. > So much to learn. So little time. > She loved it! But I'm afraid they > gave her a hard time. If I had been > there, a few well-placed personalities > would have had to deal with me. Why don't you convince her to become a Wordsler? We need a WHTM! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7x008226 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8735A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:52:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:07 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEq7419891 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:07 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-209.gwi.net [216.195.155.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBKEq5Gn011799 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094824.00b2ea90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:52:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> References: <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >and anabolic? -- Natalie I'm an ordinary person and I know the difference. Corticosteriods reduce inflammation. They are injected into shoulders to free up range of motion. They are injected into heels to relieve the symptoms of plantar fasciitis. But they don't heal shoulders or heels. Anabolic steroids allow athletes to build larger muscles. They don't make larger muscles. But along with work-outs they help create them. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ80008224 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8735B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:54:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:54:19 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEsI420125 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:54:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220145413.BUPD1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:54:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE46296.5090809@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:54:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next weekend? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Does Saturday night work for everybody? Works for me. (I'm not cc'ing Verdant on this one because I don't have her address at hand -- and this doesn't really contribute info she needs.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7w008224 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87331@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:35:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:35:22 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEZL418503 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:35:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220143516.BQNB1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:35:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE45E25.7090402@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:35:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220034349.70755.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031220034349.70755.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Yes to steroids and athletes. As to ears, that is not > within my ken. But if you've no effects by now, > you're probably fine. I'm trying to convince myself that I'm having effects, as in good ones, like that maybe the globbed ears are slightly less globbed, but I think that's just wishful thinking. They're no worse, though. And I have noticed no negative effects from the medicine. Do you think I should find some kind of athletic contest to enter while I'm under the effect of steroids? I don't really feel much like entering a marathon, even if I can find one. Should I perhaps call the women's basketball coach and ask whether it's legal for retired faculty to substitute on the team? Maybe they could use me. They're not doing as well this year as in the past few years, mainly because the superstar graduated last year. She was something like first draft choice of the women's pro basketball organization. I see her name in the news occasionally (probably just Starkville news, of course) as doing important things for whatever professional team she's playing for. Her name is Latoya Thomas. Or maybe it's Thompson. Or maybe it's something else entirely. I know her first name is Latoya. It's the last name I'm less sure of. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7x008224 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8733D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:51:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:27 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEpQ419769 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:26 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-209.gwi.net [216.195.155.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBKEpKGt011681; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094405.00b41288@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE3BF42.9000900@maynor.net> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Aren't steroids what athletes take to run faster or whatever? I wonder >what that has to do with fluid behind eardrums. There are different types of steroids. Some (anabolic steroids) promote the increase of muscle mass---these have been popular with athletes in some sports and certain governors of western states. Others are corticosteroids (Prednisone, for example) that reduce inflammation and swelling. These also are popular with athletes who are in rigorous training to improve speed, endurance, etc. They don't make one run faster or longer, but they do reduce the after-effects of rigorous exercise so that training workouts can be longer and more frequent---in other words, they reduce the recovery time. I think that most of the prescription-type nasal sprays are also corticosteroids. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7w008227 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87339@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:50:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:50:28 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEoS419655 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:50:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220145023.BTUJ1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:50:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE461AF.7040304@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:50:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220042829.19408.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031220042829.19408.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > the Prednisone had nearly permanently damaged her > health. This may have been due to the quantity that > she had taken. Any competent doctor surely knows its > properties, and appears to be a highly effective drug. I bet I know! I bet my doctor is po'ed because his parents have come to my big xmas parties but he has never been invited. I bet he wants to cripple me so that I can't have any more parties! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7x008225 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:25 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEpP419757 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:25 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-209.gwi.net [216.195.155.209]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBKEpKGr011681; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094220.00b1d5b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:43:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Trial of the century In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:59 AM 12/20/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Michael Jackson or Saddam Hussein? > >I can't decide. What? You've already forgotten about Kobe Bryant? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7w008228 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8734E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:51:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEpK419743 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224553@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:51:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201451.hBKEpK419743@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:51:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:40:19 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Steroids reduce inflammation (swelling) - it's the pressure >> in the ears that's causing your pain, and also blocking the >> tubes to affect your hearing (and incidentally, permitting >> infections to fester there - your ear canal tissue probably >> swelled due to a mild cold, closing them off and creating >> the climate in which your ear infection grew). > >Thanks for the explanation! The pain was on the wane, presumably from >the Zithwhatever, which, as I said yesterday, my doctor said is still at >work even though I'm through taking it (its package also said that). >But the not hearing and the stuffed-ear feeling was no better at all, >maybe worse. I've watched a couple of tv movies lately, including >"Christmas Carol" last night, and I wished for subtitles. It didn't >matter much for "CC" since I kind of knew the words anyway, but it would >have helped with the Hallmark movie I watched night before last. It's >odd to watch a movie when it literally does mean watching -- as in >watching only -- not hearing. >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's an interesting problem, isn't it? How old is your TV? Everything made in the last 10 yrs or so has built-in closed captions. You should be able to turn it on with the remote's menu button - or some tvs actually have separate cc button on the remote. early 1990's models had a switch you threw somewhere in the back - but it's a long time since it required a separate decoder. If you are having trouble understanding speech, it's certainly worth checking. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:55:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEtQ7w008226 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:55:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8732D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:44:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:44:52 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEiq419191 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:44:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220144447.BSNT1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:44:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:44:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build > extra muscle. And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have encountered somewhere like a biology class, but it is not in my . And "corticosteroid" is not even remotely familiar to me. (Biology was my least favorite in school, though I did enjoy falling in love with my tenth-grade biology teacher.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEve7w008306 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:57:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87350@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:57:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:57:39 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEvc420378 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:57:38 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBKEvaRp028907 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:57:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005d01c3c709$bc361580$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094220.00b1d5b0@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Trial of the century Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:58:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 04:59 AM 12/20/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >Michael Jackson or Saddam Hussein? > > > >I can't decide. > > What? You've already forgotten about Kobe Bryant? > > cwv I wonder if Saddam has called Mark Garagos yet. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:57:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEvp7w008310 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:57:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00224519@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:47:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:47:49 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKElm419420 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:47:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220144743.BTFM1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:47:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:47:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Alyce took it. I got into trouble with her for talking about the side > effects. It's an evil, evil drug, but nothing works like it. I have a vague memory of your telling horror stories to Alyce about something she was taking, wondering why you felt compelled to do so. But I don't remember exactly what the horror stories were. Nothing in the description I read on the Wmart sheet suggests that this is even an evil drug, much less an evil, evil one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 08:58:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKEwj7w008317 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:58:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87351@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:58:38 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKEwc420450 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:58:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224566@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 9:58:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201458.hBKEwc420450@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:58:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:44:48 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >> A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build >> extra muscle. > >And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have >encountered somewhere like a biology class, but it is not in my vocabulary>. And "corticosteroid" is not even remotely familiar to me. > (Biology was my least favorite in school, though I did enjoy >falling in love with my tenth-grade biology teacher.) > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) This is the kind of detail longer conversations with drs yield. "IMFTATMd". When I had recurring bronchitis from exposure to smoke and molds, I developed an asthmatic wheeze and was given a couple of inhalers. One was a corticosteroid, which the dr explained carefully, including the side-effects of water retention, facial hair growth/ balding, etc. (which, by the way, you'll be unlikely to encounter on a short-use encounter) that I would avoid by using the inhaler rather than a pill. Steroids, being pretend hormones, affect the body like hormonal upswings do - with the effects being cumulative over time, and worse in some than in others, of course. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:00:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKF067w008366 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:00:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:00:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:00:05 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKF04420641 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:00:04 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBKF03kF007606 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:00:03 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBKF02Xr007604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:00:02 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:00:02 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Message-ID: <20031220150002.GA7574@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor: = Karen Kay wrote: = = >A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build = >extra muscle. = = And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid = and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have = encountered somewhere like a biology class, but it is not in my . And "corticosteroid" is not even remotely familiar to me. = (Biology was my least favorite in school, though I did enjoy = falling in love with my tenth-grade biology teacher.) = Yes, ordinary people know this stuff. Can we just go back to, "Damn, you're lucky." ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:02:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKF277w008395 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:02:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKF26420883 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022456D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201502.hBKF26420883@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:05 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Trial of the century To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:51:31 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> Michael Jackson or Saddam Hussein? >> >> I can't decide. > >So far in the century or the whole century? I would not be willing to >go with either of the above for the whole century, unless the century >turns out to be quite bland. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) What makes you think either will come to trial? I expect MJ to plea bargain to avoid public humiliation, and SH to meet a Jack Ruby. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:02:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKF2I7w008400 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:02:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87373@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKF2G420937 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220150211.BWFW1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:02:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE46473.1010009@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:02:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group CC: verdie@earthlink.net, Judith Subject: Re: next weekend? References: <23b7742390c2.2390c223b774@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <23b7742390c2.2390c223b774@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Does Saturday at 6:30 at the Red Cat work for you and the dudes? Somebody tell me again where the Red Cat is. I'll be at the Wellington, 871 7th Ave. Can't remember 7th and what. Need to look at the website again. Also don't have the phone number of the Wellington handy. I'll be cranking up my tracfone for the trip -- phone # 662-242-0723. I remember that it failed me just north of NYC last summer when I was trying to call love,judith. Don't know how it will work in NYC. I should cc love,judith on this note. I was telling her earlier that she and Paul should come down for this occasion, but I haven't been able to think clearly or communicate much in the past week because of my ear rot. Judith: A Words-L event is brewing for Saturday, December 27, at Jimmy Bradley's Red Cat in NYC. You and Paul are needed! And Anne-the-FOWL. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:03:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKF3p7w008454 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:03:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87374@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:03:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:03:50 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKF3n421104 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:03:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBKF3lRp011689 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:03:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006801c3c70a$9973a840$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE46229.90601@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Catching up Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:04:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Sara is here. Have been listening to > > stories from her trip to India. > > Fasssssscccccinating. Poor girl. > > So much to learn. So little time. > > She loved it! But I'm afraid they > > gave her a hard time. If I had been > > there, a few well-placed personalities > > would have had to deal with me. > > Why don't you convince her to become a Wordsler? We need a WHTM! > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Nah. She's too busy. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:05:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKF5r7w008510 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:05:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00224548@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:05:52 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKF5q421286 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:05:52 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:05:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201505.hBKF5q421286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:05:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: next weekend? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:02:11 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >> Does Saturday at 6:30 at the Red Cat work for you and the dudes? > Now I have a terrible dilemma. My efforts to convince V we need a romantic getaway to a place we have neither one ever considered going for fun, have failed (predictably). Not only that, a fellow writer has invited me to a gathering that night on the grounds that his wife is "getting curious abt me" (understandable certainly, since we typically sit up talking abt writing till 3 or 4 in the am a couple of nights a month) and wd like to meet me. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:10:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFAs7w008551 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:10:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87382@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:10:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:10:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFAq421797 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:10:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFAe4c027632 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:10:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:11:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <522392777.20031220091137@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: BrP stands tall! In-Reply-To: <200312201404.hBKE4u415590@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312201404.hBKE4u415590@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I think of Austin as a place where everyone turns up, eventually - > part of what keeps it weird, I guess. Yes. I think this is true, that everyone turns up eventually. I had never been here till I started investigating it as a place to live, though. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:11:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFB97w008562 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:11:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFB8421839 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224598@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200312201511.hBKFB8421839@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Elizabeth Peters To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:15:45 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >Elizabeth Peters wrote whodunits set in Egypt (?) in Victorian times. >> >I think Karen's referring to the protaganist in these books - she's >> >gutsy, ahead of her times etc. I haven't read the books myself... > >I can tell. > >So what did I get wrong? All of it, probably. > I'm far from being a Peters afficionado myself, but I think the protagonist (Amelia Peabody) is relevant because she is naive in many ways - for instance about sex, initially - and meets difficult characters. The explanation for her "modern" attitudes in the books, if I recall, is that she grew up far from social training, hence is lacking Victorian biases - not so much ahead of her time. Mostly, though, I was just being snarky. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:11:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFBs7w008577 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:11:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87372@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFBr421945 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:11:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFAhpJ023642 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:10:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:12:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <09539931.20031220091247@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE45E25.7090402@maynor.net> References: <20031220034349.70755.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE45E25.7090402@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Do you think I should find some kind of athletic contest to enter while > I'm under the effect of steroids? These are not those kind of steroids. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:13:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFDs7w008595 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:13:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87388@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:13:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:13:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFDr422114 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:13:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFDmvX013126 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:13:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:14:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <137536262.20031220091445@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid > and anabolic? Maybe--I'm ordinary. I think most people might have heard 'anabolic steroid' before, even though they couldn't tell you what they are. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:15:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFFH7w008643 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:15:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87396@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:15:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:15:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFFG422268 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:15:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFE8pJ025749 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:14:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:16:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I have a vague memory of your telling horror stories to Alyce about > something she was taking, wondering why you felt compelled to do so. I started talking about the weight gain, and got carried away. > But I don't remember exactly what the horror stories were. Nothing in > the description I read on the Wmart sheet suggests that this is even an > evil drug, much less an evil, evil one. Then they misled you. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFGo7w008663 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:16:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87391@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:16:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:16:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFGm422382 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:16:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFGi4c001418 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:16:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:17:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1877050292.20031220091739@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094824.00b2ea90@pop.gwi.net> References: <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094824.00b2ea90@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >>and anabolic? -- Natalie > I'm an ordinary person and I know the difference. Corticosteriods reduce > inflammation. They are injected into shoulders to free up range of > motion. They are injected into heels to relieve the symptoms of plantar > fasciitis. But they don't heal shoulders or heels. And in fact, they can delay healing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:20:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFKq7w008758 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:20:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8738B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:20:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:20:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFKp422743 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:20:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFKm4c003980 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:20:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:21:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <142465395.20031220092145@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Catching up In-Reply-To: <000e01c3c6ba$672b1800$99cadece@0018079268> References: <009201c3c6b8$7a39db40$99cadece@0018079268> <1266815350.20031219232513@WordWrite.com> <000e01c3c6ba$672b1800$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> On Friday, December 19, 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> > Sara is here. Have been listening to >> > stories from her trip to India. >> > Fasssssscccccinating. Poor girl. >> > So much to learn. So little time. >> > She loved it! But I'm afraid they >> > gave her a hard time. If I had been >> > there, a few well-placed personalities >> > would have had to deal with me. >> > - D. M. >> >> For some reason, a certain Elizabeth Peters character comes to mind... >> >> Karen > Explain, please. I can't. This paragraph just reminds me of the Sitt Hakim, Amelia Peabody. I'm not sure why--perhaps the last sentence is phrased similar to the way the author writes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:26:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFQW7w008884 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:26:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A873AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:26:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:26:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFGV422370 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:16:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKFF7DG017336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:15:08 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:16:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build >> extra muscle. > >And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have I would think so. Corticosteroids are my drug of choice now - will be until after I get a new knee. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFSd7w008901 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:28:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A873B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:28:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:28:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFSb423385 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:28:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFRMpJ003832 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:27:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:29:26 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build >>> extra muscle. >> >>And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >>and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have > I would think so. Corticosteroids are my drug of choice now - will be > until after I get a new knee. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:35:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFZN7w009006 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:35:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A873A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:35:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:35:22 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFZM423881 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:35:22 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ700F7Q9YXDO@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:30:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:30:53 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: next weekend? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <25956a257852.25785225956a@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor Date: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:02 am Subject: Re: next weekend? > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Does Saturday at 6:30 at the Red Cat work for you and the dudes? > > Somebody tell me again where the Red Cat is. 10th Ave between 23rd and 24th Streets. West side of the street. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:40:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFe17w009098 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:40:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A873C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:39:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:40:00 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFdx424269 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:40:00 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQ7006ZLA6OHN@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:35:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:35:31 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <258ee225dca6.25dca6258ee2@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I think of Austin as a place where everyone turns up, eventually > - > > part of what keeps it weird, I guess. > > Yes. I think this is true, that everyone turns up eventually. I had > never been here till I started investigating it as a place to live, > though. I've never been there, but I imagine some day I'll turn up. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:40:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFea7w009108 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:40:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A873B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:40:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:40:35 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFUZ423547 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:30:35 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKFTBDG020389 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:29:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:30:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>>And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >>>and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have > >> I would think so. Corticosteroids are my drug of choice now - will be >> until after I get a new knee. > > You may like pain more than I do. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 09:49:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKFnT7w009411 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:49:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A873DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:49:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:49:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFnS425034 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:49:28 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKFmKpJ017419 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:48:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:50:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>>>And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >>>>and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like something I might have >> >>> I would think so. Corticosteroids are my drug of choice now - will be >>> until after I get a new knee. >> >> > You may like pain more than I do. Nah. I just don't enjoy the side effects. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:08:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKG8T7w009693 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:08:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A873E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:08:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKFwR425892 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:58:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKFv2DG026796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:57:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:58:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >>>> I would think so. Corticosteroids are my drug of choice now - will be >>>> until after I get a new knee. >>> >>> > >> You may like pain more than I do. > >Nah. I just don't enjoy the side effects. The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate release pain relief and reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:17:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGHf7w009943 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:17:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224628@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:17:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:17:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGHd427347 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:17:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKGGUpJ006411 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:16:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:18:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <417358046.20031220101835@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate release pain relief and > reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. You get shots, right? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:20:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGKM7w010014 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:20:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87426@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:20:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:20:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGAF426904 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:10:15 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKG8pDG030095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:08:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:10:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: snow/cold Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We had just enough precipitation yesterday (light snow, a bit of rain earlier) to create black ice conditions last night when the temp dropped. One man was killed in west Knoxville when his car slid on the black ice. Temps were in the teens and will not be much above freezing today. There was enough snow to coat treed and grass - so it's very pretty out. And - I am, for the first time since I moved - spending most of the day at home doing a few things I need to and mostly what I want to. I made a double cap and prepared French Toast for breakfast - what a treat! I was supposed to go to the barn, but the back roads are still icy, so I will not do that. Now I shall lie down so I can keep my right knee elevated for a while and read more chapters of that book I have to review soon - and also the three days of the WSJ that I did not get to last week. But first I may brew another cap ... UT closed yesterday for a week - finally I can slow down a bit as I prepare for my trip to Gethsemani on Monday. Ah, winter! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:21:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGLL7w010026 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:21:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87420@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:21:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:21:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGBI426968 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:11:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKG9uDG030343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:09:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. edited version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate release pain relief and >reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. Should be The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate pain relief and reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:23:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGNU7w010046 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:23:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8742C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGNS427717 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:23:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKGNQeO031427 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:23:26 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKGNPa2031415; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:23:26 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:26:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <417358046.20031220101835@WordWrite.com> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:18 AM 12/20/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate release pain relief and > > reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. > >You get shots, right? Larry got shots in his hands for a while. Really thinned the skin. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:24:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGOa7w010062 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:24:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87415@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:24:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:24:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGOY427780 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:24:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKGOSvX000296 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:24:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:25:25 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <196271036.20031220102525@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Now I shall lie down so I can keep my right knee elevated for a while Did you ever do any Pilates with a trainer? I forget. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:25:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGPJ7w010078 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:25:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87433@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:25:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGPG427850 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:25:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKGPDvX000822 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:25:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:26:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <967442645.20031220102611@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 10:18 AM 12/20/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >> > The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate release pain relief and >> > reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. >> >>You get shots, right? > Larry got shots in his hands for a while. Really thinned the skin. And bones. Don't get me started! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:33:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGX07w010233 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:33:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8743D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:32:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:32:58 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGMw427689 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:22:58 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKGLUDG001003 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:21:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:22:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <417358046.20031220101835@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <417358046.20031220101835@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate release pain relief and >> reduced swelling of my knee. YMMV. > >You get shots, right? Injections - yes. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:49:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGnb7w010510 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87473@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:49:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:49:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f7.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGnZ429708 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:49:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:49:29 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.149 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:49:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.149] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Elizabeth Peters Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:49:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 16:49:29.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C2148F0:01C3C719] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: clo: >I'm far from being a Peters afficionado myself, but I think the protagonist >(Amelia Peabody) is relevant because she is naive in many ways - for >instance >about sex, initially - and meets difficult characters. > >The explanation for her "modern" attitudes in the books, if I recall, is >that >she grew up far from social training, hence is lacking Victorian biases - >not so much ahead of her time. gah, I was close enough. I thougth I had the wrong author or something. >Mostly, though, I was just being snarky. No worries, I >>>heart<<< snarky. Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) > >--- "Bethany K. Dumas" > >wrote: > > >> > Heck, I don't tell ANYBODY! > > >You just did. > >I did NOT tell you what my pharmacist told me! > >Bethany Phew! I hereby declare Bethany wordsler with the most fatiguing conversation style. I've wisely refrained from particpating but just observing these bouts tires the heck out of me. I've never been in court - is this an example of court discourse? _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work — and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:57:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGvm7w010658 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:57:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:57:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:57:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f64.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKGvk430238 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:57:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:57:40 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.149 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:57:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.149] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trial of the century Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:57:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 16:57:40.0619 (UTC) FILETIME=[60F40DB0:01C3C71A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cwv: > >Michael Jackson or Saddam Hussein? > > >I can't decide. >What? You've already forgotten about Kobe Bryant? Kobe's been out-celebritied by Michael Jackson. _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:03:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKH3t7w010764 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:03:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8748A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f47.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKH3r430702 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:03:53 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:03:48 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.149 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:03:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.149] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trial of the century Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:03:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 17:03:48.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BF0FF40:01C3C71B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: >I expect MJ to plea bargain to avoid public humiliation, and SH to meet a >Jack Ruby. There seems to be lotsa bad blood, vendetta almost, between the Santa Barbara police officials and Michael Jackson (according to Keith Olbermann). Jackson's in deep trouble. PS I sent out two posts together last time. Too much coffee. I meant to add that I love playing amateur analyst on Bethany's discourse style (on this service). It's irresistible. _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:08:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKH867w010815 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:08:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A874AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:08:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:08:04 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKH83431043 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:08:03 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKH7LcM004338 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:07:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:06:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen has two responses to illnesses: The illness is deathly serious. The drugs prescribed for said illness will kill you with their side effects. Now, I have had serious problems with drug side effects (the big reason I won't get a flu shot), but I'm still not sure how one survives an illness according to Karen. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:12:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHCB7w010864 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:12:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A874C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:12:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:12:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHC8431342 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:12:08 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKHC72f017158 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:12:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKHC4JC017096; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:12:05 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220091314.00b18230@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:14:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Trial of the century In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:03 PM 12/20/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >PS I sent out two posts together last time. Too much coffee. >I meant to add that I love playing amateur analyst on Bethany's >discourse style (on this service). It's irresistible. The style gets even better when the linguists join her! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:13:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHDn7w010882 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:13:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A874BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:13:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:13:47 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHDl431426 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:13:47 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-65-65-201-118.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.65.201.118]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKHD5cM006827 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:13:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE482F3.9090808@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:12:19 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > UT closed yesterday for a week - finally I can slow down a bit as I > prepare for my trip to Gethsemani on Monday. And my school district is closed until January 5th. I have a stack of papers at least a foot tall to grade, and I need to do a bit of planning for next semester, oh, and write my finals, but it will be two gloooooorious weeks of rest and relaxation. No students! I'm just praying there's nothing more in that stack of essays that is going to send me to see the social worker when I get back (the social worker and I are becoming total buds these days). Well, Ana and I are off to ride this afternoon. YaY! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:16:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHGh7w010976 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:16:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A874B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:16:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 125947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:16:41 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHGe431622 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:16:40 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBKHGdkF007916 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:16:39 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBKHGclA007914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:16:38 +0100 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:16:38 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold Message-ID: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = days of the WSJ that I did not get to last week. But first I may brew = another cap ... = Stop this right now. One does not brew a cap. I hate this abbreviation, and if you brew it, it is most definitely not cappuccino, as espresso is made by forcing steam through coffee not by letting it sit in boiling water. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:29:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHTj7w011244 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:29:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A874E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:29:42 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHTg432411 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:29:42 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122017293601600rmj0fe>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:29:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220092426.03f39ff8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:30:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. edited version In-Reply-To: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate pain relief and reduced >swelling of my knee. YMMV. The bad effects are cumulative, and don't manifest themselves early. I think they unaccumulate when you stop using them, but you don't want to use them longer than necessary. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:31:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHVm7w011348 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:31:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A874E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:31:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHVk432495 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220173141.SQTQ1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:31:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4877D.50809@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:31:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312201451.hBKEpK419743@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312201451.hBKEpK419743@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > It's an interesting problem, isn't it? How old is your TV? Everything made > in the last 10 yrs or so has built-in closed captions. You should be able Aha. I should have thought of that! I became aware of it (of the fact that it's on most relatively new tv sets) back a couple of years ago when worrying about my mother's hearing (which was always bad -- or at least ever since she had scarlet fever as a young child -- but became really, really bad in old age). I'm pretty sure that I checked then and discovered that my tv set (vintage about 1995) does have it. I was going to give her mine and take her old one. Then I mentioned it to my RRB&SIL, who were always looking for possible xmas presents, and they gave her one with it. I think it was xmas before last. At most it was the one before that. It's the one I have sitting in this room right now, the one that developed an annoying ping somehow in the move from the nursing home here. (But I bet the ping wouldn't be annoying if I turned it on right now with my deafness.) I use it only for its built-in vcr since it's not connected to antenna or dish and thus gets no tv -- just extreme fuzz. Iow, it's not relevant in how I could have turned on the captions in watching these recent movies. But, as I said, I'm almost sure my older tv also has that option. You are a wise woman, clo. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:35:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHZ47w011384 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:35:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A874E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:35:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:35:01 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHZ1432671 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:35:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220173456.SRJV1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE48840.2060908@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:34:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094405.00b41288@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220094405.00b41288@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >> >> Aren't steroids what athletes take to run faster or whatever? I wonder >> what that has to do with fluid behind eardrums. > > There are different types of steroids. Some (anabolic steroids) promote > the increase of muscle mass---these have been popular with athletes in some > sports and certain governors of western states. Others are corticosteroids > (Prednisone, for example) that reduce inflammation and swelling. These > also are popular with athletes who are in rigorous training to improve > speed, endurance, etc. They don't make one run faster or longer, but they > do reduce the after-effects of rigorous exercise so that training workouts > can be longer and more frequent---in other words, they reduce the recovery > time. > > I think that most of the prescription-type nasal sprays are also > corticosteroids. Thanks. I must say that your reply was much more informative than Karen's. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:39:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHde7w011514 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:39:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A874F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:39:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:39:38 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHdc400400 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:39:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220173933.SSEV1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:39:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE48955.3050609@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:39:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trial of the century References: <200312201502.hBKF26420883@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312201502.hBKF26420883@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > What makes you think either will come to trial? > I expect MJ to plea bargain to avoid public humiliation, and SH to meet a > Jack Ruby. From an Iraqi JR or a US one? I'm suddenly trying to remember what happened to JR. I have it stuck in my head that he was in Parkland Hospital in Dallas when my RRB was interning there. But that can't be. That was several years after JFK's death. (My RRB did take a picture at some point of the bed where JFK died. Why, I'm not sure -- why he took the picture, I mean. It was just a hospital bed.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:43:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHh77w011609 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:43:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A874E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:43:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:43:05 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHh5400625 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:43:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220174300.SSXL1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:43:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE48A24.2020805@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:43:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next weekend? References: <200312201505.hBKF5q421286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312201505.hBKF5q421286@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Now I have a terrible dilemma. My efforts to convince V we need a > romantic getaway to a place we have neither one ever considered going for fun, > have failed (predictably). Not only that, a fellow writer has invited me to > a gathering that night on the grounds that his wife is "getting curious abt me" > (understandable certainly, since we typically sit up talking abt writing till > 3 or 4 in the am a couple of nights a month) and wd like to meet me. The second problem is easily solvable. The writer and his wife are locals, right? You are present locally much of the time. There will be other opportunities to get together. If a meeting needs to occur soon, you can suggest that the three of you get together for coffee or something. You must tell the writer that you have to be in NYC that night. I'm not as sure about the solution to the V problem. Would he be if you went without him? It's not as if you didn't try to get him to go. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:47:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHlF7w011693 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:47:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A874F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:47:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:47:13 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHlD400928 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:47:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220174708.STUU1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:47:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE48B1C.2070200@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:47:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>But I don't remember exactly what the horror stories were. Nothing in >>the description I read on the Wmart sheet suggests that this is even an >>evil drug, much less an evil, evil one. > > Then they misled you. Am I mutant for finding it reasonable to believe that material given me by a pharmacist re a drug has more credibility than hearsay from somebody with degrees in Japanese linguistics? Did you ever consider going to med school or pharmacy school, btw? Serious question. I don't remember ever having known anybody with as much interest in medical conditions and medications as you seem to have. A medical career would strike me as an obvious choice. Or is this interest something you developed later in life? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:48:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHmq7w011733 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:48:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8750F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:48:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:48:49 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHmn401005 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:48:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220174844.SUEK1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:48:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE48B7D.9070606@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:48:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: next weekend? References: <25956a257852.25785225956a@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <25956a257852.25785225956a@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > 10th Ave between 23rd and 24th Streets. West side of the street. Thanks. I am writing this upon my NYC folder. (Could probably find the address upon arrival in The City, of course, but it's nice having these things written down in my folder.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 11:51:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKHpQ7w011776 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:51:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002246D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:51:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:51:18 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHpH401164 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-209.gwi.net [216.195.155.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBKHpD59082904; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:51:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220125059.00b5baa0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:51:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:06 AM 12/20/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Karen has two responses to illnesses: > >The illness is deathly serious. >The drugs prescribed for said illness will kill you with >their side effects. > >Now, I have had serious problems with drug side effects (the >big reason I won't get a flu shot), but I'm still not sure >how one survives an illness according to Karen. Pilates--what else? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 12:03:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKI3J7w012002 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:03:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87516@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:53:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:53:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHrF401339 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:53:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKHrEeO025758 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:53:14 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKHrBa2025697; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:53:12 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220095407.00a46e50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 09:55:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Pharmacy In-Reply-To: <3FE48B1C.2070200@maynor.net> References: <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:47 AM 12/20/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >>>But I don't remember exactly what the horror stories were. Nothing in >>>the description I read on the Wmart sheet suggests that this is even an >>>evil drug, much less an evil, evil one. >> >>Then they misled you. > >Am I mutant for finding it reasonable to believe that material given me >by a pharmacist re a drug has more credibility than hearsay from >somebody with degrees in Japanese linguistics? Pharmacists used to be more respected than ministers it was revealed in one study. I don't know if that is still true. I retain these little pieces of information but can't remember anything. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 12:03:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKI3J7w012003 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:03:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8750F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:01:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:01:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKI1F402172 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:01:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKI1E2f017144 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:01:14 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBKI1BJC017105; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:01:12 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220100157.00ab6f00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:03:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! In-Reply-To: <3FE48CD1.50803@maynor.net> References: <258ee225dca6.25dca6258ee2@optonline.net> <258ee225dca6.25dca6258ee2@optonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:54 AM 12/20/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>>Yes. I think this is true, that everyone turns up eventually. I had >>>never been here till I started investigating it as a place to live, >>>though. >> >>I've never been there, but I imagine some day I'll turn up. > >I've never been there and don't really know whether I'll ever turn up >there. For some reason I don't find myself in Texas very often. >I've changed planes there before but finally spent some time one Christmas >and it was great. We met Karen and I'd love to go back in the spring some year. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 12:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKI4Y7w012017 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:04:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224705@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:54:30 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKHsU401434 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:54:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220175425.SVIA1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:54:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE48CD1.50803@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:54:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! References: <258ee225dca6.25dca6258ee2@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <258ee225dca6.25dca6258ee2@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >>Yes. I think this is true, that everyone turns up eventually. I had >>never been here till I started investigating it as a place to live, >>though. > > I've never been there, but I imagine some day I'll turn up. I've never been there and don't really know whether I'll ever turn up there. For some reason I don't find myself in Texas very often. Had never been there at all until adulthood. I think my first trip was when I went to Houston to visit somebody I was dating at the time who was doing his residency there. I remember that the plane was delayed in leaving Jackson because it was full of Ole Miss football fans shrieking "Hoddy Toddy." The pilot kept announcing that the plane couldn't take off until they shut up. I've been to Houson a time or two since then and to Dallas a time or two. And I went to El Paso once. But that's about it for my Texas experience (except for many, many, many hours of transcribing tapes of interviews with people in small towns in the Brazos Valley -- I was quite intimate with all those places like Mumford and Chapel Hill and Snoot and so on). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 12:10:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKIAZ7w012124 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87538@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:10:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f56.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKIAW402584 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:10:27 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.140 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:10:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.140] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: BrP stands tall! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:10:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 18:10:27.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BBBB2F0:01C3C724] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:54 AM 12/20/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>>Yes. I think this is true, that everyone turns up eventually. I had >>>never been here till I started investigating it as a place to live, >>>though. >> >>I've never been there, but I imagine some day I'll turn up. > >I've never been there and don't really know whether I'll ever turn up >there. For some reason I don't find myself in Texas very often. I used to find myself in Texas once every other year or so when my brother lived in Houston. Austin (and San Antonio) were good day/ weekend trips. And once New Orleans. _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 12:25:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKIPc7w012413 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:25:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8755F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:25:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:25:36 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f29.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKIPa403954 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:25:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:25:30 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.140 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:25:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.140] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Yummy greens Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:25:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 18:25:30.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5E886B0:01C3C726] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just took out a yummy-looking spinach and artichoke dip out of the oven. Can't wait to taste, it looks delish. I had some frozen'n'microwaved dip at a friend's house the other day and decided to try making it. I didn't really have a recipe - started with a simple cream sauce, almost a bechamel with milk, not cream, and nutmeg, added grated parmesan and leftover Gruyere ends, added blanched and squeeze-dried spinach and chopped artichoke hearts to the cheese sauce. When the consistency looked right I popped it into the oven with more parmesan on top. It was in for 30 mins or so. I didn't go overboard with the cheese so hopefully it won't be too too rich. I was trying to be light. It should be great with toasted pita triangles. I've been on a real greens kick of late and have been consuming huge amounts of broccoli rabe, spinach and baby bok choy. This is a good addition to my greens reportoire. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 13:06:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKJ6O7w013038 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:06:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A875A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:06:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:06:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKIuL405321 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:56:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKIsiDG016078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:54:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:56:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: <196271036.20031220102525@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <196271036.20031220102525@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >Did you ever do any Pilates with a trainer? I forget. Not yet - I am still trying to arrange that - but for post-surgery now. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 13:08:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKJ8G7w013058 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:08:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A875C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:08:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:08:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKIwD405514 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:58:13 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKIuoDG016800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:56:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:58:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trial of the century In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >out-celebritied Can we shorten that to our-celebed? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 13:20:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKJKd7w013232 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:20:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A875E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:20:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:20:36 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKJAa406199 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:10:36 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKJ9DDG020485 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:09:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:10:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, steph wrote: >cappuccino, as espresso is made by forcing steam through coffee >not by letting it sit in boiling water. Who in the world makes coffee by letting it sit in boiling water? I would not call that brewing. I also would not call the product coffee. It is true that the narrowest, most literal sense of brew is that of making (ale, beer, and the like) by infusion, boiling, and fermentation (paraphrasing the online OED). But another widespread 'transferred' use is that of "mak[ing] by mixing several ingredients" (online OED). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 13:21:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKJLs7w013250 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:21:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A875E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:21:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:21:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKJBp406241 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:11:51 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKJASDG020810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:10:28 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:11:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. edited version In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220092426.03f39ff8@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20031220092426.03f39ff8@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >>The ONLY effects I experience are almost immediate pain relief and reduced >>swelling of my knee. YMMV. > >The bad effects are cumulative, and don't manifest themselves early. I >think they unaccumulate when you stop using them, but you don't want to use >them longer than necessary. Oh, you don't get injections if you plan to keep the knee. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 13:26:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKJQh7w013309 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:26:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A875E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:26:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:26:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKJGe406531 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:16:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKJFHDG022272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:15:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:16:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trial of the century In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >Can we shorten that to our-celebed? Too bad I can't type today - maybe I should have taken that nap I contemplated. Let's try out-celebed. Or maybe it was not having that cap that I contemplated . I opted for hot chocolate instead. I put the mix and some Dutch-process cocoa and some water and some milk together and heated them - did I ? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 13:54:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKJsu7w013818 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:54:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87601@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:54:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:54:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKJsr408531 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:54:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKJslvX006583 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:54:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:55:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1798705439.20031220135545@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen has two responses to illnesses: I'm pretty sure I have more than that. > The illness is deathly serious. > The drugs prescribed for said illness will kill you with > their side effects. > Now, I have had serious problems with drug side effects (the > big reason I won't get a flu shot), but I'm still not sure > how one survives an illness according to Karen. Gosh, I don't know, Rita! I guess I've just been lucky. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 14:00:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKK0P7w013959 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:00:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:00:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:00:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKK0L408946 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:00:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKJxCpJ021182 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:59:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:01:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1596401542.20031220140116@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE48B1C.2070200@maynor.net> References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> <3FE48B1C.2070200@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Am I mutant for finding it reasonable to believe that material given me > by a pharmacist re a drug has more credibility than hearsay from > somebody with degrees in Japanese linguistics? You should be skeptical of all information given you by anyone. > Did you ever consider going to med school or pharmacy school, btw? No. > Serious question. I don't remember ever having known anybody with as > much interest in medical conditions and medications as you seem to have. > A medical career would strike me as an obvious choice. Or is this > interest something you developed later in life? It's not an interest, Natalie. It's self-defense. Which is pretty much the reason I became interested in computers. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 14:03:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKK3a7w014007 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:03:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002247F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:03:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:03:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKK3W409151 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:03:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKK2OpJ023081 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:02:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:04:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1616824803.20031220140429@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Trial of the century In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>out-celebritied > Can we shorten that to our-celebed? No. In any case, shouldn't that be 'celebbed'? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 14:32:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKKWQ7w014414 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:32:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87683@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:32:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:32:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f41.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKKWN410965 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:32:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:32:17 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:32:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trial of the century Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:32:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 20:32:17.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C24D6C0:01C3C738] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>out-celebritied >Can we shorten that to our-celebed? oh, and out-salaciated (?) _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 14:48:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKKmi7w014647 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:48:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87698@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:48:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:48:40 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBKKme411697 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:48:40 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp03.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.123]) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA98KPLNABRGCJS for (sender ); Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25158 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2003 20:46:48 -0000 Received: from 01-035.093.popsite.net (HELO computer) (64.24.154.35) by smtp03.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 20 Dec 2003 20:46:48 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c3c736$8bf115a0$239a1840@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE23B51.3020501@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hey, Brad Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:19:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 10:5:2593605051 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, on "It's a Wonderful Life": > > And how did it come to be known as a > > Christmas (sorry, "holiday season") > > movie? Suicide. Nice. > > It's got the right ingredients. Think about it -- Christmas tree, music > (was it "O Come All Ye Faithful" she kept playing over and over?), an > angel, wise men bringing gifts, a saving. And it's even got Scrooge. And a major financial scandal at the Bailey Savings and Loan, made more better by cheer and good will! The Wall Street Journal did a nice piece years ago on what a few everyday financiers thought about the shortfall in funds and how it was resolved. I clipped it and saved it, must be around somewhere. > I think I mentioned before that I had never seen it until people on > Words-L were talking about it. Now I see it regularly. One reason I never miss it is that I first saw it one lonely Xmas on German TV when I was in Munich in the Army. I sat there feeling good about not caring about this forced holiday, and ended up blubbering into my beer (Paulaner Pilsner). I can't remember whether the movie was dubbed into or subtitled in German, but I understood it. Hoo-ah! brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:00:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKL057w014818 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:00:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A876AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:00:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:00:01 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKL01412398 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:00:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220205956.NBSQ1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4B84D.6050506@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:59:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312200413.hBK4DN406409@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <271280400.20031219221851@WordWrite.com> <3FE46110.90906@maynor.net> <481610929.20031220091612@WordWrite.com> <3FE48B1C.2070200@maynor.net> <1596401542.20031220140116@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1596401542.20031220140116@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > You should be skeptical of all information given you by anyone. What an way to live. Not to mention a busy one -- having to perform primary research on everything before accepting it would consume one's life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKL1m7w014841 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:01:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A876AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:01:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:01:44 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f12.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKL1i412566 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:01:44 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:01:38 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:01:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Trial of the century Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:01:38 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 21:01:38.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[75D75F80:01C3C73C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: > >I meant to add that I love playing amateur analyst on Bethany's > >discourse style (on this service). It's irresistible. > >The style gets even better when the linguists join her! :-) We should start a pool on number of posts between variations of "I DID not say ..." or "Show me where I said ..." _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:05:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKL5B7w014937 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:05:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A876B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f47.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKL57412771 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:05:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:05:01 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:05:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:05:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 21:05:01.0753 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEF56290:01C3C73C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>A corticosteroid, Natalie, not an anabolic steroid. It won't build >>extra muscle. > >And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >and anabolic? I've seen them in newspaper articles, not scientific or medical journals. Are newspapers pitched at ordinary people? _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:10:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLAn7w015019 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:10:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A876D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:10:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:10:45 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f60.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKLAj413145 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:10:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:10:39 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.46 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:10:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.46] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:10:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Dec 2003 21:10:39.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[B86BC970:01C3C73D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > You should be skeptical of all information given you by anyone. >What an way to live. Not to mention a busy one -- having >to perform primary research on everything before accepting it would >consume one's life. I'm with steph. The only appropriate response in this thread is "Damn, you're lucky." New topic, anyone? _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:19:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLJs7w015151 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:19:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002248C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:19:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:19:51 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKLJo413612 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:19:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKLJlvX024582 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:19:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:20:45 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19510546792.20031220152045@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > New topic, anyone? I can whine about how much I hate putting zippers in, if you like. This is my task this weekend, replacing my winter coat zipper. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:23:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLNH7w015182 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:23:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A876ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:23:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:23:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKLND413845 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:23:13 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKLNA4c014036 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:23:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:24:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1042536125.20031220152408@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'wegians In-Reply-To: <200312191946.hBJJkYI16996@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312191946.hBJJkYI16996@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:31:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Friday, December 19, 2003, steph wrote: >>> Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? >>> A. He’s staring at your shoes. >> >>I've heard the same joke many times before, with 'tech writer' >>substituted for 'Norwegian'. >> >>Karen > I sat at a bar last night with an acquaintance who confided that for > perhaps the first time in 2 years, he has a paycheck now. Startled, I > asked what his occupation is: tech writer. Was he looking at your shoes? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:41:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMfB7w016518 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:41:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A877DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:41:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:41:06 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKMf6419375 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:41:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220224101.UXCH1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:41:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4CFFE.9050709@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:41:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> And ordinary people normally know the difference between corticosteroid >> and anabolic? > > I've seen them in newspaper articles, not scientific or medical journals. > Are newspapers pitched at ordinary people? Newspapers are supposedly pitched at about eighth-grade level, aren't they? So I guess you're right. I am obviously not out of fourth or fifth grade yet. Seriously, I thought I was of about average knowledgeability level. Obviously not. I wonder what percent I fall in of U.S. adults in knowledge level. I doubt that there have been any polls done on how many U.S. adults can tell you what corticosteroid and anabolic mean. What would your guess be? 90% 95% 75% Iow, am I in the bottom 5% or 10% or 25% or what in knowledgeability? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:49:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMn27w016706 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:49:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A877EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:48:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:48:58 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKMmv419863 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:48:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220224852.UYMW1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:48:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4D1D5.8010109@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:48:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> > You should be skeptical of all information given you by anyone. > >> What an way to live. Not to mention a busy one -- having >> to perform primary research on everything before accepting it would >> consume one's life. > > I'm with steph. The only appropriate response in this thread is > "Damn, you're lucky." So you also do primary research before believing anything? Have you always? Did you not trust the logarithm charts your teacher gave you in school? What about a recipe? I guess I'm lucky, but I find myself trusting thousands of things every day. I trust the time/temperature number if I call to make sure my watch is right. I trust what I read was last night's low temperature. I am skeptical of some things I hear if I know they're from questionable sources. But in general I am not skeptical and would find a life crammed full of primary research incredibly difficult. So yes, I consider myself quite lucky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMtI7w016796 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:55:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8780F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:55:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:55:14 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKMtE420269 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:55:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKMtD1t024004 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:55:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:53:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: The eagles are back Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I saw two today... one when I was crossing over the Chain of Rocks Canal into Illinois, and one on the way back over the Mississippi River. Ana and I are going to take the binocs out this week. AND I managed to hit a flying lead change today. I haven't even cantered more than three or four times since I've been back riding. Double bonus. I am truly LUCKY. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8fhdi000628 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:41:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224A7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:19:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:19:13 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBKNJD422292 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:19:13 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:19:07 PST Message-ID: <20031220231907.84335.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. (was: Re: wintry hello) To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" > >You just did. > > I did NOT tell you what my pharmacist told me! That is a perfectly absurd evasion of the issue at hand. Now I know why you became and attorney. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8fhdi000629 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:41:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224B14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:33:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:34:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL0Xx428007 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:33:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL0XweO001716 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:33:58 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL0Xsa2001674; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:33:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220163615.00b33a40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:36:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:10 PM 12/20/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> > You should be skeptical of all information given you by anyone. > >>What an way to live. Not to mention a busy one -- having >>to perform primary research on everything before accepting it would >>consume one's life. > >I'm with steph. The only appropriate response in this thread is >"Damn, you're lucky." > >New topic, anyone? We ate our way through the Dicken's Fair today. What fun! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8fhdi000627 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:41:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00224A8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:57:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:57:14 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNvE424952 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:57:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220235709.BXTJ7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:57:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4E1D6.2010101@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:57:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> <1798705439.20031220135545@WordWrite.com> <3FE4D952.3010102@swbell.net> <888705418.20031220173358@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <888705418.20031220173358@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > There is a difference between my response to Natalie's myriad > illnesses and my responses to illnesses in general. Why? How are my myriad illnesses different? I did manage to reach retirement (and beyond) without ever missing a day of work from illness. Does that make my illnesses different? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:41:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8fhdi000630 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:41:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00224B3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:19:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:19:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1JL431653 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:19:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224B71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:19:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210119.hBL1JL431653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:19:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:06:34 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Karen has two responses to illnesses: > >The illness is deathly serious. >The drugs prescribed for said illness will kill you with >their side effects. > >Now, I have had serious problems with drug side effects (the >big reason I won't get a flu shot), but I'm still not sure >how one survives an illness according to Karen. > IME, there are many people for whom Karen's outlook as reported by you isn't far off. They may not die of the original condition, yet the medications wear down organs, lower resistance, etc, so that life though prolonged is beset with other medical problems. EG, my mother who has heart damage from aspirin, diabetes due to longterm prednisone and methyltrexate use, along with decreased liver function, damaged immune system, and other serious events. On the other hand, she isn't bedridden as her cousin was with RA before the "good drugs" came along. When she dies, it will probably be of something that was aided, if not caused, by the damage from the meds. In the meantime, she gets to walk and hold her grandchildren, and spend a fortune on meds. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8j9di000740 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00224B46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:24:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:24:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1OI432148 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:24:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224B74@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:24:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210124.hBL1OI432148@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:24:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: next weekend? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:43:00 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> Now I have a terrible dilemma. My efforts to convince V we need a >> romantic getaway to a place we have neither one ever considered going for fun, >> have failed (predictably). Not only that, a fellow writer has invited me to >> a gathering that night on the grounds that his wife is "getting curious abt me" >> (understandable certainly, since we typically sit up talking abt writing till >> 3 or 4 in the am a couple of nights a month) and wd like to meet me. > >The second problem is easily solvable. The writer and his wife are >locals, right? You are present locally much of the time. There will be >other opportunities to get together. If a meeting needs to occur soon, >you can suggest that the three of you get together for coffee or >something. You must tell the writer that you have to be in NYC that >night. I'm not as sure about the solution to the V problem. Would he >be if you went without him? It's not as if you didn't try to >get him to go. > > In darker moments, he sees such "invites" as a clever ruse to mask the fact that I am to get out of the house. It's a tricky time of year. Miffed would be the best thing he would be - he's if I go to the grocery store unexpectedly. Still working on this. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8n3di000833 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224B7A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:28:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:28:16 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1SG432638 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:28:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8793E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:28:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210128.hBL1SG432638@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:28:16 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 'wegians To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:24:08 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:31:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >>>On Friday, December 19, 2003, steph wrote: >>>> Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? >>>> A. He?s staring at your shoes. >>> >>>I've heard the same joke many times before, with 'tech writer' >>>substituted for 'Norwegian'. >>> >>>Karen > >> I sat at a bar last night with an acquaintance who confided that for >> perhaps the first time in 2 years, he has a paycheck now. Startled, I >> asked what his occupation is: tech writer. > >Was he looking at your shoes? > >Karen He was looking a lot more at his drink! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdi000943 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8786D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:33:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:33:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNX3423343 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:33:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKNWx4c000675 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:33:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:33:58 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <888705418.20031220173358@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <3FE4D952.3010102@swbell.net> References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> <1798705439.20031220135545@WordWrite.com> <3FE4D952.3010102@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>>Karen has two responses to illnesses: >>> >> >> I'm pretty sure I have more than that. > Not really. It's interesting to watch your responses to > Natalie's various diseases (of which she seems to have quite > a few, actually). There is a difference between my response to Natalie's myriad illnesses and my responses to illnesses in general. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdi000942 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8786B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:30:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:30:39 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBKNUd423088 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:30:39 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:30:34 PST Message-ID: <20031220233034.37465.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:30:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > And ordinary people normally know the difference > between corticosteroid > and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like > something I might have > encountered somewhere like a biology class, but it > is not in my vocabulary>. And "corticosteroid" is not even > remotely familiar to me. Who are these ordinary people, and why would they have cause to know the difference, unless they used either or both medications? That's the only reason Natalie is asking the questions. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdi000944 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8786F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:34:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:34:21 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNYL423432 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:34:21 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKNXCpJ023761 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:33:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:35:18 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1868788861.20031220173518@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <20031220233034.37465.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031220233034.37465.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Natalie Maynor wrote: >> And ordinary people normally know the difference >> between corticosteroid >> and anabolic? The word "anabolic" sounds like >> something I might have >> encountered somewhere like a biology class, but it >> is not in my > vocabulary>. And "corticosteroid" is not even >> remotely familiar to me. > Who are these ordinary people, and why would they have > cause to know the difference, unless they used either > or both medications? That's the only reason Natalie > is asking the questions. I'm not sure that ordinary people know the difference, but they do know what anabolic steroids are--even Natalie knew that. I only know corticosteroids because of a long, intimate acquaintance with various of their ilk. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdj000940 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87865@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:40:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:40:48 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNem423849 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:40:48 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKNeibV1761400 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:40:44 -0600 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:40:44 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Brad In-Reply-To: <001501c3c736$8bf115a0$239a1840@computer> Message-ID: References: <20031218031055.73321.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE23B51.3020501@maynor.net> <001501c3c736$8bf115a0$239a1840@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU brad: > One reason I never miss it is that I first saw it one lonely Xmas > on German TV when I was in Munich in the Army. I sat there O.K., I'm green with that, but at least admit that it's a terrible movie. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdj000943 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8787E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:39:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:39:06 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNd6423751 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:39:06 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKNd3bV6119460 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:39:03 -0600 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:39:03 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany: > Who in the world makes coffee by letting it sit in boiling water? That's "cowboy coffee", innit? Also, the we'd hire on Canadian fishing trips made it that way. Damn, if Starbucks could make coffee that good, I might become a customer. -- Richard, missing me da and the fishing trips (sniff) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdj000942 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:59:34 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNxX425078 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:59:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031220235928.BYGB7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4E261.2040903@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:59:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220233034.37465.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> <1868788861.20031220173518@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1868788861.20031220173518@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I'm not sure that ordinary people know the difference, but they do Huh? Maybe you weren't among the Wordslers saying that did know this stuff. > know what anabolic steroids are--even Natalie knew that. I only know I said I knew the word "steroids" and associated it with athletes. I wouldn't call that knowing what "anabolic steroids" are. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdj000944 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:02:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:02:21 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL02K425318 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:02:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.158.181]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031221000215.BYVS7487.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:02:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE4E308.2050603@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:02:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold References: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Bethany: > >>Who in the world makes coffee by letting it sit in boiling water? > > That's "cowboy coffee", innit? It's the only way I made coffee for ages. It's called instant. It's the only kind of coffee my mother liked and is also what my brother prefers. I don't remember exactly when I switched from instant to non-instant. I think I decided that non-instant was just as easy -- easier in a way. I load the stuff into the pot at night and flip the switch when I get up in the morning. But I could live happily with instant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdk000940 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A878E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:20 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL0TK427643 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:20 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL0TJrW020758 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:19 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBL0TIKj003388 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:18 -0500 Message-ID: <013601c3c759$7947a0e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <1637550026.20031220174400@WordWrite.com> Subject: Re: Help! Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ter says for sure 2 lines on a zipper... she's and I are diggin' her shrimp & chopped spinach stir fry. 'With Chinese sauces... yum... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Saturday, 20 December, 2003 6:44 PM Subject: Help! > It's take me half an hour to rip one-eighth of the current > (broken) zipper. > > I'm planning to baste in the new zipper, and then resurrect my sewing > machine to sew in the new zipper. Should I do a flat-felled look seam? > (2 lines of stitching 1/4" apart.) That's what was there. Any hints or > clues are welcome. > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdk000944 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87946@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:21:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:21:17 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1LH431861 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:21:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8794E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:21:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:21:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:31:41 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> It's an interesting problem, isn't it? How old is your TV? Everything made >> in the last 10 yrs or so has built-in closed captions. You should be able > >Aha. I should have thought of that! I became aware of it (of the fact >that it's on most relatively new tv sets) back a couple of years ago >when worrying about my mother's hearing (which was always bad -- or at >least ever since she had scarlet fever as a young child -- but became >really, really bad in old age). I'm pretty sure that I checked then and >discovered that my tv set (vintage about 1995) does have it. I was >going to give her mine and take her old one. Then I mentioned it to my >RRB&SIL, who were always looking for possible xmas presents, and they >gave her one with it. I think it was xmas before last. At most it was >the one before that. It's the one I have sitting in this room right >now, the one that developed an annoying ping somehow in the move from >the nursing home here. (But I bet the ping wouldn't be annoying if I >turned it on right now with my deafness.) I use it only for its >built-in vcr since it's not connected to antenna or dish and thus gets >no tv -- just extreme fuzz. Iow, it's not relevant in how I could have >turned on the captions in watching these recent movies. But, as I said, >I'm almost sure my older tv also has that option. > >You are a wise woman, clo. > *blush* Nah, but I have worked closely with deaf people for many years (10 as an interpreter). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdk000943 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A878EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:48:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:48:34 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL0mX429075 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:48:34 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031221004827013006u9qde>; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:48:27 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220164234.03f150f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:50:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBL0mY429076 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >6. Saw a movie listing brought back from Paris recently. It had a blurb >on a movie called in French "Crush: Les __________ Frustrees" and >supposedly titled in English "Bad Fucker." Crush (2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245407/ aka Crush, le club des frustrées Heiraten für Fortgeschrittene Sad Fuckers Club (UK working title) Mientras haya hombres Intuicion Femenina Sposami, Kate! Surullisten sinkkujen seura etc. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdl000940 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8794F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:23:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1NB432036 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:23:11 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL1N6vX012170 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:23:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:24:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1831814944.20031220192405@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <013601c3c759$7947a0e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> References: <1637550026.20031220174400@WordWrite.com> <013601c3c759$7947a0e0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Alan Wild wrote: > Ter says for sure 2 lines on a zipper... she's and I are diggin' her shrimp > & chopped spinach stir fry. 'With Chinese sauces... yum... Thanks. I'm not looking forward to it! I don't even know if my sewing machine works at this point... Karen Needs must when the devil drives... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdl000942 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87954@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1Vb400597 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:31:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8795C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:31:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210131.hBL1Vb400597@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:31:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: snow/cold To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:39:03 -0600, mene tekel parsin wrote: >Bethany: >> Who in the world makes coffee by letting it sit in boiling water? > >That's "cowboy coffee", innit? > >Also, the we'd hire on >Canadian fishing trips made it that way. > >Damn, if Starbucks could make coffee >that good, I might become a customer. > >-- >Richard, missing me da and the fishing trips (sniff) Oh, right, with eggshells. We used to make it at camp - still do when the power's out! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdl000941 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8793F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1TF432757 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224B7B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210129.hBL1TF432757@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:53:44 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >I saw two today... one when I was crossing over the Chain of > Rocks Canal into Illinois, and one on the way back over >the Mississippi River. Ana and I are going to take the >binocs out this week. > >AND I managed to hit a flying lead change today. I haven't >even cantered more than three or four times since I've been >back riding. > >Double bonus. I am truly LUCKY. > > Damn! You're lucky! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdl000943 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87952@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:34 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL1JY431689 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:19:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 83413 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Dec 2003 01:19:32 -0000 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:19:32 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 Message-ID: <20031221011932.GA80087@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 03:15:59PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > Just some bits from my morning: > > 1. Saw book with title "Tantric Sex for Idiots" > 2. Stepped in 6" high puddle > 3. Saw a hand-painted tie with the last 25 or so America's Cup winning > boats on it > 4. Bought two book lights, gonna put one on each page for reading on the > bus. > 5. Bought some Bose headphones, got tired of waiting for Tushar's (which > would still be welcome because they're probably better than these, which > cost only $20) > 6. Saw a movie listing brought back from Paris recently. It had a blurb > on a movie called in French "Crush: Les __________ Frustrees" and > supposedly titled in English "Bad Fucker." I have googled and don't know > what the hell? It had Andie MacDowell in it. I have been a LITTLE BUSY! I am free now! This is your morning? This stuff happens to me in 3 1/2 minutes over here. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdi000940 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87854@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:16:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:16:01 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNG0422066 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:16:01 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E9CF22B8E8; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBEB2B8D5 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:15:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:15:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: 12/20/2003 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just some bits from my morning: 1. Saw book with title "Tantric Sex for Idiots" 2. Stepped in 6" high puddle 3. Saw a hand-painted tie with the last 25 or so America's Cup winning boats on it 4. Bought two book lights, gonna put one on each page for reading on the bus. 5. Bought some Bose headphones, got tired of waiting for Tushar's (which would still be welcome because they're probably better than these, which cost only $20) 6. Saw a movie listing brought back from Paris recently. It had a blurb on a movie called in French "Crush: Les __________ Frustrees" and supposedly titled in English "Bad Fucker." I have googled and don't know what the hell? It had Andie MacDowell in it. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdj000941 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87879@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:43:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:43:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNh4423997 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:43:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBKNh04c006591 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:43:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:44:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1637550026.20031220174400@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's take me half an hour to rip one-eighth of the current (broken) zipper. I'm planning to baste in the new zipper, and then resurrect my sewing machine to sew in the new zipper. Should I do a flat-felled look seam? (2 lines of stitching 1/4" apart.) That's what was there. Any hints or clues are welcome. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdk000942 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87924@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:08:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:08:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL18Y430519 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:08:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL18TvX004507 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:08:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:09:28 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1207882083.20031220190928@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fountains of Wayne MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is on Austin City Limits this week. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdk000941 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87901@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:49:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:49:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL0d3428339 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:39:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL0bcDG002867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:37:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:39:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: <3FE4E308.2050603@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE4E308.2050603@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Mutant Natalie Maynor wrote: >>>Who in the world makes coffee by letting it sit in boiling water? >> >> That's "cowboy coffee", innit? > >It's the only way I made coffee for ages. It's called instant. It's is NOT coffee. Coffee is made from ground roasted coffee beans. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:54:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8shdi000941 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87864@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:22:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:22:21 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBKNMK422557 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:22:20 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBKNMJTB016400 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:22:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE4D952.3010102@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:20:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <20031220025531.25225.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <555333099.20031219221416@WordWrite.com> <3FE46060.8040202@maynor.net> <1236144417.20031220092926@WordWrite.com> <1477244982.20031220095024@WordWrite.com> <4.2.2.20031220082546.00a44310@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3FE4819A.6050005@swbell.net> <1798705439.20031220135545@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Karen has two responses to illnesses: >> > > I'm pretty sure I have more than that. Not really. It's interesting to watch your responses to Natalie's various diseases (of which she seems to have quite a few, actually). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 02:58:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK8wkdi001091 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 02:58:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87964@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:37:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:37:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL1bx401207 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:37:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224B8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:37:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210137.hBL1bx401207@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:37:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Help! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:44:00 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >It's take me half an hour to rip one-eighth of the current >(broken) zipper. > >I'm planning to baste in the new zipper, and then resurrect my sewing >machine to sew in the new zipper. Should I do a flat-felled look seam? >(2 lines of stitching 1/4" apart.) That's what was there. Any hints or >clues are welcome. > >Karen I used to do this as a living. Really. (Camping repairs, back when R was born). The most important thing to know about zippers is how stretchy the fabric the teeth are attached to is. Pin one side and pull the garment taut, making sure the zipper isn't allowed to stretch too much. Then zip the zipper closed, and pin the second side so that it will match the first. Unzip it to sew, but make sure that again that the garment is taut, and the zipper doesn't stretch out of shape. Also, make sure not to sew too close to the teeth (you need to be 1/8 - 1/4 inch away so that the zipper pull has room to maneuver. I personally don't do two lines of sewing. My logic is that if the stitches tear out, you can re-attach; but if the stitching is so firm that stress tears the fabric, you have a tougher problem. The only time I'd put a 2d row in is if I sewed too far from the zipper itself, making it seem kind of flimsily attached. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 03:32:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK9W4di001921 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:32:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A879AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:11:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:11:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL21G403132 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:01:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL1xpDG018088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:59:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:01:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >Nah, but I have worked closely with deaf people for many years (10 as an >interpreter). You should visit on Feb. 23 - we are having two speakers on variation in American SIgn Language. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 03:35:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK9ZNdi001981 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:35:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A879AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:14:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:14:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2EZ404082 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:14:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL2EXW1012997 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:14:34 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL2EUWq012984; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:14:31 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220181652.00a2fed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:17:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: References: <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:01 PM 12/20/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >Nah, but I have worked closely with deaf people for many years (10 as an > >interpreter). > >You should visit on Feb. 23 - we are having two speakers on variation in >American SIgn Language. Clo could probably speak! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 03:45:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK9jIdi004141 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:45:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A879AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:24:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:24:31 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2OU404989 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:24:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL2NocM001030 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:23:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE50401.70203@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:22:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312210119.hBL1JL431653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:06:34 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>Karen has two responses to illnesses: >> >>The illness is deathly serious. >>The drugs prescribed for said illness will kill you with >>their side effects. >> >>Now, I have had serious problems with drug side effects (the >>big reason I won't get a flu shot), but I'm still not sure >>how one survives an illness according to Karen. >> >> > IME, there are many people for whom Karen's outlook as reported by you isn't > far off. They may not die of the original condition, yet the medications wear > down organs, lower resistance, etc, so that life though prolonged is beset > with other medical problems. EG, my mother who has heart damage from aspirin, > diabetes due to longterm prednisone and methyltrexate use, along with > decreased liver function, damaged immune system, and other serious events. > > On the other hand, she isn't bedridden as her cousin was with RA before the > "good drugs" came along. > When she dies, it will probably be of something that was aided, if not > caused, by the damage from the meds. In the meantime, she gets to walk > and hold her grandchildren, and spend a fortune on meds. MUST you people be so fucking depressing. Really. It's enough to take the Christmas right out of me. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 03:45:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK9jodi004168 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:45:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A879C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:25:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:25:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2P3405056 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:25:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL2NrpJ025240 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:23:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:25:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <367167.20031220202551@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <200312210137.hBL1bx401207@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312210137.hBL1bx401207@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I used to do this as a living. Really. (Camping repairs, back when > R was born). M.:) > The most important thing to know about zippers is how stretchy the fabric > the teeth are attached to is. Oh. I guess I should find the zipper. > Also, make sure not to sew too close to the teeth (you need to be 1/8 - 1/4 > inch away so that the zipper pull has room to maneuver. Thanks. I'm assuming I can follow the previous lines. > I personally don't do two lines of sewing. My logic is that if the stitches > tear out, you can re-attach; but if the stitching is so firm that stress > tears the fabric, you have a tougher problem. The only time I'd put a 2d row > in is if I sewed too far from the zipper itself, making it seem kind of > flimsily attached. Okay. I have now ripped half the old zipper out, and a little bit of the 2nd half. My aim tonight is to get it pinned and basted in. Then I need to make sure my sewing machine works and do some practice stitching. I don't remember where the zipper foot is, or if I have one... But the actual zipper-sewing will take place tomorrow, probably after meeting unless I feel really confident and ambitious. It's going to look odd anyway because I couldn't find a zipper or thread to match the jacket. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 03:54:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK9sBdi004278 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:54:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A879B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:33:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:33:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2NM404816 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:23:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL2LwDG021997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:21:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:23:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031220181652.00a2fed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312210121.hBL1LH431861@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4.2.2.20031220181652.00a2fed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBL2NN404817 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Betty wrote: >At 09:01 PM 12/20/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>You should visit on Feb. 23 - we are having two speakers on variation in >>American SIgn Language. > >Clo could probably speak! Clo - have you studied variation in ASL? The two who are speaking have just created a video, "WHATÕS YOUR SIGN FOR PIZZA? An Introduction to Variation in Amsrican Sign Language" (Ceil Lucas and Robert Bayley) (narrated by Clayton Valli). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 03:57:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBK9vIdi004366 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 03:57:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A879BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:36:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:36:30 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL2aU405896 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:36:30 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:36:25 PST Message-ID: <20031221023625.49756.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE461AF.7040304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I bet I know! I bet my doctor is po'ed because his > parents have come to > my big xmas parties but he has never been invited. > I bet he wants to > cripple me so that I can't have any more parties! Sorry, Natalie, that I sounded like such a Dismal Dame. We are amateurs. Trust your doctor, and GET WELL SOON! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:01:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKA1Udi004492 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:01:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A879D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:40:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:40:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2eg406294 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:40:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224BFD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:40:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210240.hBL2eg406294@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:40:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:17:16 -0800, Betty wrote: >At 09:01 PM 12/20/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >Nah, but I have worked closely with deaf people for many years (10 as an >> >interpreter). >> >>You should visit on Feb. 23 - we are having two speakers on variation in >>American SIgn Language. > >Clo could probably speak! I actually don't do a signed language. I do "cued" spoken languages (visually represented with a method called "Cued Speech"). I am interested in SL structure, however. I'll see if I can get away. Sometimes Feb is good. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:03:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKA3Jdi004517 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:03:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A879D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2gV406474 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224C05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210242.hBL2gV406474@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:42:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Help! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:25:51 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> I used to do this as a living. Really. (Camping repairs, back when >> R was born). > >M.:) > >> The most important thing to know about zippers is how stretchy the fabric >> the teeth are attached to is. > >Oh. I guess I should find the zipper. > LOL! Let me rephrase. It's important to understand that zippers are very stretchy. Here is how to avoid problems: >> Also, make sure not to sew too close to the teeth (you need to be 1/8 - 1/4 >> inch away so that the zipper pull has room to maneuver. > >Thanks. I'm assuming I can follow the previous lines. > >> I personally don't do two lines of sewing. My logic is that if the stitches >> tear out, you can re-attach; but if the stitching is so firm that stress >> tears the fabric, you have a tougher problem. The only time I'd put a 2d row >> in is if I sewed too far from the zipper itself, making it seem kind of >> flimsily attached. > >Okay. > >I have now ripped half the old zipper out, and a little bit of the >2nd half. My aim tonight is to get it pinned and basted in. Then I >need to make sure my sewing machine works and do some practice >stitching. I don't remember where the zipper foot is, or if I have >one... But the actual zipper-sewing will take place tomorrow, probably >after meeting unless I feel really confident and ambitious. It's going >to look odd anyway because I couldn't find a zipper or thread to match >the jacket. > >Karen clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:05:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKA5Fdi004532 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:05:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A879E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:27 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL2iQ406673 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:26 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:44:21 PST Message-ID: <20031221024421.56914.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:44:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: snow/cold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > We had just enough precipitation yesterday (light > snow, a bit of rain > earlier) to create black ice conditions last night > when the temp dropped. > One man was killed in west Knoxville when his car > slid on the black ice. > Temps were in the teens and will not be much above > freezing today. There > was enough snow to coat treed and grass - so it's > very pretty out. I'm sure you saw the video on the news of the FedEx guys bailing out of their crashed plane in Memphis. They actually talked about it this AM on "What Do You Know?". It's a scary thing to see, but somehow heartening. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:05:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKA5ldi004537 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:05:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A879E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2ix406729 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224C07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210244.hBL2ix406729@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:44:59 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBL2ix406730 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:23:22 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Betty wrote: > >>At 09:01 PM 12/20/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>>You should visit on Feb. 23 - we are having two speakers on variation in >>>American SIgn Language. >> >>Clo could probably speak! > >Clo - have you studied variation in ASL? The two who are speaking have >just created a video, "WHATÕS YOUR SIGN FOR PIZZA? An Introduction to >Variation in Amsrican Sign Language" (Ceil Lucas and Robert Bayley) >(narrated by Clayton Valli). > >Bethany I have studied it, but only casually - I have read, for instance, earlier work by Valli and Lucas, and actually met Lucas once; I have also worked with Judy Kegl on cueing, and had many conversations w/ her abt interesting aspects of ASL history and syntax. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:20:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAKXdi004834 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:20:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A879FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:59:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:59:46 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2xj408107 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:59:45 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL2wZpJ012979 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:58:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:00:42 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <41771698.20031220210042@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <200312210242.hBL2gV406474@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312210242.hBL2gV406474@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > LOL! Let me rephrase. It's important to understand that zippers are very > stretchy. Always? I don't ever remember stretchiness being a factor. But I haven't done zippers for 20 years. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:22:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAMEdi004850 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:22:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87A07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:01:27 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL31Q408320 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:01:21 PST Message-ID: <20031221030121.21548.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:01:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trial of the century To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1616824803.20031220140429@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > Can we shorten that to our-celebed? > > No. In any case, shouldn't that be 'celebbed'? Why not just write "celebate" and be done with it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:28:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKASddi004897 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:28:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87A0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:07:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:07:51 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL37o408941 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:07:50 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:07:45 PST Message-ID: <20031221030745.46795.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:07:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: It had a blurb > on a movie called in French "Crush: Les __________ > Frustrees" and > supposedly titled in English "Bad Fucker." I have > googled and don't know > what the hell? It had Andie MacDowell in it. Maybe it's a documentary. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAU8di004937 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:30:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224C15@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:49:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:49:18 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2nI407229 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:49:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224C10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:49:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200312210249.hBL2nI407229@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:49:18 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:22:57 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > MUST you people be so fucking depressing. Really. It's >enough to take the Christmas right out of me. > I'm sorry. Knowing how fragile life is, and that none of us have all the answers, makes me appreciate the chance to be here all the more. Realizing how I am makes me grateful to be alive, in spite of inconveniences like health problems. I mean that sincerely. But I do understand that this is boring. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAU8di004938 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:30:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224C1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:56:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:54:54 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL2sr407676 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:54:54 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:54:48 PST Message-ID: <20031221025448.75372.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:54:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220125059.00b5baa0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Pilates--what else? Pontius and family? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAU8di004940 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:30:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00224C31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:06:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:06:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL36d408810 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:06:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL35UpJ016752 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:05:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:07:37 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <424384969.20031220210737@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: 'wegians In-Reply-To: <200312210128.hBL1SG432638@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312210128.hBL1SG432638@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:24:08 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>On Friday, December 19, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:31:09 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>>On Friday, December 19, 2003, steph wrote: >>>>> Q. How do you spot an extroverted Norwegian? >>>>> A. He?s staring at your shoes. >>>> >>>>I've heard the same joke many times before, with 'tech writer' >>>>substituted for 'Norwegian'. >>>> >>>>Karen >> >>> I sat at a bar last night with an acquaintance who confided that for >>> perhaps the first time in 2 years, he has a paycheck now. Startled, I >>> asked what his occupation is: tech writer. >> >>Was he looking at your shoes? >> >>Karen > He was looking a lot more at his drink! > clo Sometimes the job takes people that way.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAU8di004939 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:30:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224C2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:01:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:01:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL2p5407430 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:51:05 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL2ndDG026774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:49:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312210244.hBL2ix406729@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312210244.hBL2ix406729@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I have studied it, but only casually - I have read, for instance, earlier >work by Valli and Lucas, and actually met Lucas once; I have also worked >with Judy Kegl on cueing, and had many conversations w/ her abt interesting >aspects of ASL history and syntax. Where did you meet Ceil? (I met her in 1977 in a convent on Oahu! No - we were not nuns.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:30:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAUkdi004953 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:30:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87A09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:09:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:09:58 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL39w409159 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:09:58 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:09:53 PST Message-ID: <20031221030953.23204.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:09:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1868788861.20031220173518@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > I'm not sure that ordinary people know the > difference, but they do > know what anabolic steroids are--even Natalie knew > that. I only know > corticosteroids because of a long, intimate > acquaintance with various > of their ilk. But you are not ordinary. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAXadi005085 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:33:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87A0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:12:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:12:48 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3Cm409432 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:12:48 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:12:43 PST Message-ID: <20031221031243.98126.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: snow/cold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > That's "cowboy coffee", innit? > > Also, the we'd hire on > Canadian fishing trips made it that way. > > Damn, if Starbucks could make coffee > that good, I might become a customer. > Richard, missing me da and the fishing trips (sniff) "Cowboy coffee" is a heck of a lot cheaper, too, I bet. I don't know that anyone gets over missing his da. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:40:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAeRdi006466 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:40:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87A18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:19:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:19:39 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3Jd410073 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:19:39 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:19:34 PST Message-ID: <20031221031934.99263.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:19:34 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031220163615.00b33a40@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > We ate our way through the Dicken's Fair today. > What fun! Did you have pork pies - blood pudding - bloaters - squeak and bubble - goose - quail and bacon - mincemeat - Dundee cake with Devonshire cream - rhubarb pie with Stilton? Please check ALL that apply. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:41:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAfadi006480 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:41:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87A06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:20:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:20:48 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3Km410164 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:20:48 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:20:43 PST Message-ID: <20031221032043.76204.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: snow/cold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > is NOT coffee. Coffee is made from ground > roasted coffee beans. Here we go again. "Samantics". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:44:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAiCdi006524 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:44:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87A27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:23:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:23:25 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3NO410407 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:23:25 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:23:19 PST Message-ID: <20031221032319.31352.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031221011932.GA80087@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > I have been a LITTLE BUSY! I am free now! > > This is your morning? This stuff happens to me in 3 > 1/2 minutes > over here. Over where? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:59:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAxqdi007004 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:59:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87A27@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:29:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:29:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL3T3411025 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:29:03 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL3T22f031634 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL3SwJC031612; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:28:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220192802.00a2fed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:31:44 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <20031221031934.99263.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.2.20031220163615.00b33a40@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:19 PM 12/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Betty wrote: > > We ate our way through the Dicken's Fair today. > >Did you have pork pies - blood pudding - bloaters - >squeak and bubble - goose - quail and bacon - >mincemeat - Dundee cake with Devonshire cream - >rhubarb pie with Stilton? Please check ALL that apply. Roasted chestnuts, Florentine crepe, roast beef dipped, chicken pot pie, bread pudding, raspberry lemonade. The chicken pot pie was excellent. We were told you need a $50,000 Scottish press to make them. Pastry was wonderful. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:59:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAxqdi007006 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:59:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87A33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:33:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:33:42 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL3Xf411455 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:33:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBL3XbRp029905 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:33:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c3c773$629982e0$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> Subject: Re: The eagles are back Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:34:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Chapman" To: Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: The eagles are back > I saw two today... one when I was crossing over the Chain of > Rocks Canal into Illinois, and one on the way back over > the Mississippi River. Ana and I are going to take the > binocs out this week. > > AND I managed to hit a flying lead change today. I haven't > even cantered more than three or four times since I've been > back riding. > > Double bonus. I am truly LUCKY. > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > About two weeks ago an eagle came down and lit on our lawn. Sat for a bit, then flew off. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 04:59:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKAxqdi007005 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 04:59:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87A17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:31:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:31:43 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3Vg411279 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:31:43 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:31:37 PST Message-ID: <20031221033137.81319.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:31:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031220192802.00a2fed0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Betty wrote: > Roasted chestnuts, Florentine crepe, roast beef > dipped, chicken pot pie, > bread pudding, raspberry lemonade. The chicken pot > pie was excellent. We > were told you need a $50,000 Scottish press to make > them. Pastry was wonderful. Sounds wonderful (drool). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:03:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKB3hdi007090 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:03:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87A43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:42:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:42:55 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL3gt412380 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:42:55 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL3fkpJ005771 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:41:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:43:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Who knew? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Burl likes lasagna! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:06:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKB65di007134 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:06:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87A2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:45:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:45:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL3jH412587 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:45:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL3jGW1003754 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:45:16 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBL3jDWq003742; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:45:13 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031220194746.00b3b550@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:47:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:43 PM 12/20/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Burl likes lasagna! I didn't know. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:15:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKBFCdi007351 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:15:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87A79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:54:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:54:24 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3sO413094 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:54:24 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:54:19 PST Message-ID: <20031221035419.54918.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:54:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001201c3c773$629982e0$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > About two weeks ago an eagle came down > and lit on our lawn. Sat for a bit, then > flew off. D.M. I've been meaning to ask. In what way did some of the folks in Injah give Sara a bad time? If I'm being too nosey, just don't reply. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:16:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKBGQdi007384 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:16:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87A69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:55:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:55:38 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL3tc413169 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:55:38 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:55:33 PST Message-ID: <20031221035533.63577.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > Burl likes lasagna! I think I truthfully say that I have never met a cat who liked anything with tomato in it. Burl is cosmopolitan. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:19:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKBJadi007449 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:19:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87AAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:58:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:58:48 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL3wm413483 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:58:48 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-209.gwi.net [216.195.155.209]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBL3wi59086064; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:58:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220225632.00b4ab28@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:56:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <20031221025448.75372.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220125059.00b5baa0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:54 PM 12/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Pilates--what else? > >Pontius and family? Well, it might work for some... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:24:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKBOZdi007558 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:24:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87B8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:03:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:03:46 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBL43j414657 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:03:45 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:03:40 PST Message-ID: <20031221040340.64955.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:03:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031220225632.00b4ab28@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > At 06:54 PM 12/20/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Pilates--what else? > > > >Pontius and family? > > Well, it might work for some... :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 05:58:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKBwsdi015750 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 05:58:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00224EB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:28:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:27:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:AiOLsrTP+kMreISIt3LlgqK/Pao8hhsX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL4RR416445 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:27:28 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3631E305D5 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D689223346 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:27:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20031220171638.GA7877@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:26:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: snow/cold Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 3:39 PM -0800 12/20/03, mene tekel parsin wrote: >Bethany: >> Who in the world makes coffee by letting it sit in boiling water? > >That's "cowboy coffee", innit? Also Turkish/Arab coffee. Well, they don't just let the coffee sit there, but technically speaking.... Ken Miller Organoleptics Department California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 06:01:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKC1kdi015831 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:01:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87C8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:23:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:23:52 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL4Np416263 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:23:51 -0500 Received: from [67.118.125.99] (adsl-63-193-3-162.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.3.162]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL4NnVK010147; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:23:49 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <23b7742390c2.2390c223b774@optonline.net> References: <23b7742390c2.2390c223b774@optonline.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:29:07 -0800 To: 14lodge@optonline.net, English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: next weekend? Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:08 AM -0500 12/20/03, 14lodge@optonline.net wrote: >Does Saturday at 6:30 at the Red Cat work for you and the dudes? Sure, go ahead & add us to the list. Could you send me the address, please? Thx, J -- PHOTOGRAPHY FOR PERVERTS by Charles Gatewood. "The family photographer of America's sexual underground" tells you how to take your own fetish photographs for pleasure or publication. Lots of hot fetish photography too! Now available from Greenery Press at http://www.greenerypress.com. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 06:01:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKC1kdi015830 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:01:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87C74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:20:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:20:55 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL4Kt416109 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:20:55 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.27.4de558db (4402) for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:20:46 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <27.4de558db.2d16799e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:20:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Who knew? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/20/2003 9:43:00 PM Central Standard Time, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Burl likes lasagna! >> So did Siegi; she would wait, rather impatiently, for it to cool so that I could give her some. Right now, Bennie is angry with me because the doggy treats ran out. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 06:07:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKC70di015944 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 06:07:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87CBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:46:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:46:11 -0500 Received: from mail1.flex.com (mail1.flex.com [206.126.0.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL4kA417478 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:46:11 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by mail1.flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBL4jp4T056992 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:46:04 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:46:58 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Who knew? Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FE49922.14880.98178E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20031221035533.63577.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 20 Dec 2003 at 19:55, Lynne Weber wrote: > I think I truthfully say that I have never met a cat > who liked anything with tomato in it. I have a cat that likes to eat raw tomatoes--cut to an appropriate size, of course. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 07:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKDIidi000919 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87E09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 0:21:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:21:26 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL5LQ421028 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:21:26 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL5KHpJ025867 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:20:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:22:24 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1316094623.20031220232224@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <20031221035533.63577.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031221035533.63577.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> Burl likes lasagna! > I think I truthfully say that I have never met a cat > who liked anything with tomato in it. Burl is cosmopolitan. Yes, she is. I thought the tomato would put her off as well, but it was homemade sauce, so it was chunkier rather than, er, saucier, so they weren't all over everything. It had a teeny bit of Italian sausage, and lots of portobello mushrooms because they were on sale. (Which is why I made the lasagna in the first place.) This cat really has unsupportable tastes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 07:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKDIidi000920 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A87E19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 0:23:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:23:39 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL5Nd421158 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:23:39 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL5NZ4c004708 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:23:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:23:17 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <869264391.20031220232317@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <3FE49922.14880.98178E@localhost> References: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> <3FE49922.14880.98178E@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 20 Dec 2003 at 19:55, Lynne Weber wrote: >> I think I truthfully say that I have never met a cat >> who liked anything with tomato in it. > I have a cat that likes to eat raw tomatoes--cut to an appropriate size, of > course. Ohmigod! I'll have to try her with this tomorrow. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 07:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKDIidi000921 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A87DFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 0:17:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 147187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:17:50 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL5Ho420808 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:17:50 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBL5Hi4c001948 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:17:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:18:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <783554698.20031220231844@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031220194746.00b3b550@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031220194746.00b3b550@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Betty wrote: > At 09:43 PM 12/20/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >>Burl likes lasagna! > I didn't know. She always fusses at me when I eat, because she thinks she should get food when I do. But she doesn't like things that I eat for snacks, like nuts or fruit, or, this time of year, cranberry bread. But I let her taste the plate afterwards, so she knows she's not missing out on anything. (This cat is such an optimist!) Anyway, I put down the lasagna plate, which had a little sauce on it, and she licked the plate clean. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 07:18:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKDIidi000918 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A87E3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 0:38:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:38:19 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL5cI422680 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:38:18 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBL5cERp019943 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:38:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001801c3c784$cb1d2040$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031221035419.54918.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: The eagles are back Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 23:39:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > D.M. > I've been meaning to ask. In what way did some of the > folks in Injah give Sara a bad time? If I'm being too > nosey, just don't reply. She was the guest of very wealthy people and was invited to attend several parties with them . . at which Sara was singled out by a group of movie producers, etc. who kept trying to get her into world-political discussions she did not want to be part of, and who laid such heavy criticism of our country upon her poor head she was in pain from smiling and holding back what she would like to have said had she not been a guest. They even told her it was America's fault that India has not become the world power it should have been. Wow, that was a heavy load to take to bed. Wonder if they couldn't have thought of some other obvious reasons. Some of their comments were very hurtful and I felt bad when I heard them, then realized she could have been in Hollywood and had just as strange a conversation with a few movie producers there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:13:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGDodi003465 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:13:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A880C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 3:53:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:53:00 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL8qx405900 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:53:00 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBL8qwkF020259 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:52:58 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBL8qvc2020257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:52:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:52:57 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fountains of Wayne Message-ID: <20031221085257.GA20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1207882083.20031220190928@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1207882083.20031220190928@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay: = Is on Austin City Limits this week. = = Karen I was going to ask, but I googled instead. I should have known the answer would be here: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/NJWAYfountains.html All the roadtrips of my youth, documented. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:19:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGJwdi003556 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:19:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A880D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 3:59:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:59:08 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL8x7406477 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:59:07 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBL8x6kF020283 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:06 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBL8x67D020281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:06 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:06 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Message-ID: <20031221085906.GB20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312210119.hBL1JL431653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FE50401.70203@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE50401.70203@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: = = MUST you people be so fucking depressing. Really. It's = enough to take the Christmas right out of me. We went for Thai takeaway the other night, and the house across the street was decorated with paper snowflakes. So to get in the mood, that's what I did last night, cut out some paper snowflakes. Do you know how hard it is to guestimate 60 degrees? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 10:33:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKGXIdi003924 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:33:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A880DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 4:12:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 153237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:12:28 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBL9CR407447 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:12:27 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBL9CQkF020313 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:12:26 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBL9CPeR020311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:12:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:12:25 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back Message-ID: <20031221091225.GC20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: = = AND I managed to hit a flying lead change today. I haven't = even cantered more than three or four times since I've been = back riding. = What is a flying lead change? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLEKdi008384 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:14:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225408@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 8:53:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:53:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLDrR432569 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:53:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225436@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 8:53:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211353.hBLDrR432569@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:53:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Help! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:00:42 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Saturday, December 20, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> LOL! Let me rephrase. It's important to understand that zippers are very >> stretchy. > >Always? I don't ever remember stretchiness being a factor. But I >haven't done zippers for 20 years. > >Karen Yes, always. Metal teeth used to be attached to what was essentially bias tape. Now, plastic teeth are attached to nylon. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:22:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLMpdi008479 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:22:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A882AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:01:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:01:55 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLE1t400967 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:01:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225452@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:01:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211401.hBLE1t400967@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:01:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>I have studied it, but only casually - I have read, for instance, earlier >>work by Valli and Lucas, and actually met Lucas once; I have also worked >>with Judy Kegl on cueing, and had many conversations w/ her abt interesting >>aspects of ASL history and syntax. > >Where did you meet Ceil? (I met her in 1977 in a convent on Oahu! No - we >were not nuns.) > >Bethany It's really very funny. I went to TISLR (Theoretical Issues in Sign Language Research) in Montreal. She - and a group of people - were working on a corpus of QuickTime (I think) movies in an Access database. Since I love database design, I was fascinated, and went up to their data admin after the session, to ask a question. She came along and included me in an invitation to dinner, thinking that we knew each other. I let myself be swept up, and we went to the Blue Nile. It was my first exposure to Ethiopian cuisine, as well. I learned a tremendous amount about the issues SL linguists were grappling with, just from the conversation. Comparative data was just beginning to be reported across sign typologies, and the big thing I took away w/ me was that the major syntactic "unmarked" elements that were showing up in virtually all SLs were the same ones I was learning in Japanese, which I was taking at the time - counters, particles, Topic - Comment, and V last structures were all big winner. Someday there'll be a big breakthrough in understanding Language (big L) based on grappling with that fact, I predict. or at least a very talked-about unified L theory! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:23:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLNvdi008487 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:23:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225420@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:03:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:03:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLE34401121 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:03:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-175.gwi.net [216.195.150.175]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBLE3257040570 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:03:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:03:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <200312210137.hBL1bx401207@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The only time I'd put a 2d row >in is if I sewed too far from the zipper itself, making it seem kind of >flimsily attached. --clo I've sewed zippers into cardigan sweaters that I have knitted. By hand. It didn't seem like that much of a problem. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:25:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLPsdi008500 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:25:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A882C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:05:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:05:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLE52401384 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:05:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225455@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:05:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211405.hBLE52401384@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:05:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:23:19 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> I have been a LITTLE BUSY! I am free now! >> >> This is your morning? This stuff happens to me in 3 >> 1/2 minutes >> over here. > >Over where? Over cowboy coffee, obviously. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:30:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLU4di008582 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:30:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225432@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:09:09 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLE99401967 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:09:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A882BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:09:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211409.hBLE99401967@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:09:09 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:06 +0100, steph wrote: >Rita: >= >= MUST you people be so fucking depressing. Really. It's >= enough to take the Christmas right out of me. > >We went for Thai takeaway the other night, and the house across >the street was decorated with paper snowflakes. So to get in the >mood, that's what I did last night, cut out some paper >snowflakes. Do you know how hard it is to guestimate 60 degrees? Were you not taught the folding method? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:31:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLVWdi008592 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:31:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225467@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:10:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:10:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLEAe402173 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:10:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225462@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:10:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211410.hBLEAe402173@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:10:40 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Help! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:03:10 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>The only time I'd put a 2d row >>in is if I sewed too far from the zipper itself, making it seem kind of >>flimsily attached. --clo > >I've sewed zippers into cardigan sweaters that I have knitted. By >hand. It didn't seem like that much of a problem. > > >bonnie No, of course not. In hand sewing, you make minute adjustments as you go, and of course the presser foot and feed dog aren't providing differential pressure on the various layers of fabric. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:34:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLYedi008623 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:34:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225437@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:13:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:13:47 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLEDl402578 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:13:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A882DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:13:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211413.hBLEDl402578@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:13:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBLEDl402579 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:23:22 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Betty wrote: > >>At 09:01 PM 12/20/2003 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>>You should visit on Feb. 23 - we are having two speakers on variation in >>>American SIgn Language. >> >>Clo could probably speak! > >Clo - have you studied variation in ASL? The two who are speaking have >just created a video, "WHATÕS YOUR SIGN FOR PIZZA? An Introduction to >Variation in Amsrican Sign Language" (Ceil Lucas and Robert Bayley) >(narrated by Clayton Valli). > >Bethany Just realized I could have answered more to the point. I know a fair amount about regional variations and the reasons for them, and have a strong opinion about the "standardization" process that's occurring in some areas. There's also a lot of variation for tolerance to "invented" handshapes and sign variants borrowed from SEE and other MCEs - manually coded sign systems. Did you have a question? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 15:41:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKLfndi008701 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 15:41:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225476@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:20:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 121992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:20:57 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLEKu403615 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:20:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A882DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:20:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312211420.hBLEKu403615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:20:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBLEKu403616 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:50:42 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Ann Borkin writes, > >>6. Saw a movie listing brought back from Paris recently. It had a blurb >>on a movie called in French "Crush: Les __________ Frustrees" and >>supposedly titled in English "Bad Fucker." > >Crush (2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245407/ >aka >Crush, le club des frustrées >Heiraten für Fortgeschrittene >Sad Fuckers Club (UK working title) >Mientras haya hombres >Intuicion Femenina >Sposami, Kate! >Surullisten sinkkujen seura >etc. > >Pete I thought "Bad" must be a missed mark. Isn't British "Sad Fuck" roughly equivalent to a strongly derisive "Lo-Sers"! a la Nelson on The Simpsons? Myself, I'd guess that, if you needed a 2d American title, "Premature Ejaculation: The Movie" or "Evening at Jackoffs" would be closer to the mark of "le Club des frustre'es". I'm really intrigued by "Ituicion Femenina", though. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:12:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMCddi009188 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:12:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002254A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 9:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:51:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLEpk406434 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:51:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLEpbvX027825 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:51:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:51:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <73648322.20031221085136@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Fountains of Wayne In-Reply-To: <20031221085257.GA20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1207882083.20031220190928@WordWrite.com> <20031221085257.GA20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, steph wrote: > Karen Kay: > = Is on Austin City Limits this week. > = > = Karen > I was going to ask, but I googled instead. I should have known > the answer would be here: > http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/NJWAYfountains.html > All the roadtrips of my youth, documented. We've talked about them here before. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:25:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMPMdi009432 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88335@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 10:04:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:04:29 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLF4T407057 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:04:29 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBLF4PkF020858 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:04:25 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBLF4OYa020856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:04:24 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:04:24 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Message-ID: <20031221150424.GA20841@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312211409.hBLE99401967@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312211409.hBLE99401967@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander: = On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:06 +0100, steph wrote: = = >Rita: = >= = >= MUST you people be so fucking depressing. Really. It's = >= enough to take the Christmas right out of me. = > = >We went for Thai takeaway the other night, and the house across = >the street was decorated with paper snowflakes. So to get in the = >mood, that's what I did last night, cut out some paper = >snowflakes. Do you know how hard it is to guestimate 60 degrees? = = Were you not taught the folding method? = clo Probably at some point. What I was doing was starting with a piece of A4, folding it in half, finding the midpoint of the folded side, and then guestimating 60 degrees and folding the right side in. You know when you've hit it right because then folding the left side over that will meet exactly. If I didn't quite get it, I'd adjust. Have you got something better? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:33:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMX4di014836 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:33:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002254C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 10:12:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 122941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:12:02 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLFC1407541 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:12:02 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLFC0TB014425 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:12:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE5B7DE.6010100@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:10:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312210119.hBL1JL431653@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FE50401.70203@swbell.net> <20031221085906.GB20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Rita: > = > = MUST you people be so fucking depressing. Really. It's > = enough to take the Christmas right out of me. > > We went for Thai takeaway the other night, and the house across > the street was decorated with paper snowflakes. So to get in the > mood, that's what I did last night, cut out some paper > snowflakes. Do you know how hard it is to guestimate 60 degrees? I think we're going to go get our Christmas tree today. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 16:42:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKMgsdi014990 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 16:42:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8836F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 10:22:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:22:02 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLFM1408370 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:22:01 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLFLLPO007997 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:21:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE5BA35.2040504@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:20:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back References: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> <20031221091225.GC20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Rita: > = > = AND I managed to hit a flying lead change today. I haven't > = even cantered more than three or four times since I've been > = back riding. > = > > What is a flying lead change? When a horse canters or gallops, they lead with one front leg -- it strikes out further forward than the other leg (the hind end is involved, too). This balances them when making a turn. If you are circling to the right, they should be on the right lead or they tend to fall in a little. It's physics. A flying lead change is when you change which side the horse leads with in mid-stride instead of coming down into a trot and re-cuing for a canter on the other lead. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 17:20:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKNKcdi024314 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:20:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A883B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 10:59:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:59:45 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLFxi410551 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:59:44 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLFxf4c019235 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:59:36 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17611976.20031221095936@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <200312211410.hBLEAe402173@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312211410.hBLEAe402173@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:03:10 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>>The only time I'd put a 2d row >>>in is if I sewed too far from the zipper itself, making it seem kind of >>>flimsily attached. --clo >> >>I've sewed zippers into cardigan sweaters that I have knitted. By >>hand. It didn't seem like that much of a problem. >> >> >>bonnie > No, of course not. In hand sewing, you make minute adjustments as you go, > and of course the presser foot and feed dog aren't providing differential > pressure on the various layers of fabric. Yep. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 17:31:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKNVRdi031886 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:31:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A883BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 11:00:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:00:33 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLG0W410622 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:00:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLG0T4c020020 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:00:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:00:29 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18610057162.20031221100029@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: > I've sewed zippers into cardigan sweaters that I have knitted. By > hand. It didn't seem like that much of a problem. I'm sure it wasn't. You have a lot more direct control when you're doing it by hand. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 17:32:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKNWUdi031910 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:32:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225516@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 10:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 123829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:51:35 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLFpZ410192 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:51:35 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLFpV4c014888 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:51:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:51:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <91129039.20031221095131@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <200312211353.hBLDrR432569@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312211353.hBLDrR432569@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Yes, always. Metal teeth used to be attached to what was essentially bias > tape. Now, plastic teeth are attached to nylon. > clo I started pinning the zipper last night, and it feels like plastic teeth attached to bias tape to me. (It's a YKK zipper.) I don't think it's stretchy at all. (But the fabric of the coat is very slippery--I'm much more concerned about that.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 17:57:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBKNvkdi032498 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 17:57:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022557F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 11:36:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:36:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLGaq413316 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:36:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLGZgpJ002245 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:35:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:36:51 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1415706462.20031221103651@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221112950.00bafac8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221112950.00bafac8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: >>I'm sure it wasn't. You have a lot more direct control when you're >>doing it by hand. >>Karen > Then why don't you just do yours by hand? Because this is my winter coat! It's a lot thicker than a cardigan. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 18:00:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL00xdi032561 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:00:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88408@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 11:30:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 124789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:30:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLGU4412889 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:30:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-175.gwi.net [216.195.150.175]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBLGU257058032 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:30:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221112950.00bafac8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:30:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <18610057162.20031221100029@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221090221.00b2f100@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm sure it wasn't. You have a lot more direct control when you're >doing it by hand. >Karen Then why don't you just do yours by hand? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 18:50:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL0oWdi026665 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:50:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88494@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 12:29:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:29:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLHTc416664 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:29:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBLHTbW1004560 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:29:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBLHTaWq004538; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:29:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031221093151.00b4b970@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:32:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <17611976.20031221095936@WordWrite.com> References: <200312211410.hBLEAe402173@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312211410.hBLEAe402173@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:59 AM 12/21/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > No, of course not. In hand sewing, you make minute adjustments as you go, > > and of course the presser foot and feed dog aren't providing differential > > pressure on the various layers of fabric. > >Yep. > >Karen This is true! B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 19:07:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL17cdi002190 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:07:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022560A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 12:46:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:46:44 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLHki417840 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:46:44 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003122117463601100ihhepe>; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:46:37 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221073523.03f1acd8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:46:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 In-Reply-To: <200312211420.hBLEKu403615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes, >Isn't British "Sad Fuck" roughly equivalent to a strongly derisive >"Lo-Sers"! a la Nelson on The Simpsons? Yeah, or maybe something like "sorry ass." >Myself, I'd guess that, if you needed a 2d American title, >"Premature Ejaculation: The Movie" or "Evening at Jackoffs" >would be closer to the mark of "le Club des frustre'es". Except that the movie's about three 40-something, relationship-challenged women. "Club Frustration" might be okay. "Andie MacDowell plays Kate an American Headmistress of a British private school, who makes up 1/3 of the aforementioned [sad fucker's] 'club' with pals Molly and Janine. 'Their existence was pathetic, and they got into this really bad rhythm and habit of being sad and enjoying their sadness,' says MacDowell of the movie's bitter trio. The threesome engages in a weekly ceremony of misery, where the woman who shares the most desperate tale of relationship woe is given a box of caramels as a consolation prize." Kate gets lucky, though. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 19:16:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL1G7di005846 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:16:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A884C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 12:55:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 126484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:55:13 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f56.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLHtD418434 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:55:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:55:07 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.216 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:55:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.216] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:55:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2003 17:55:07.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[91EFF510:01C3C7EB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >You are a wise woman, clo. Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. She has solutions to hearing problems, knows how to fix zippers, fold snowflakes, sign, has anecdotes about extreme medicine, lived in Austin - do you have any stories of Lower Manhattan from the sixties? That would tie up the weekend's posts beautifully. _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 19:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL1qvdi007222 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:52:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88515@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 13:26:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:26:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLIQa420240 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:26:36 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031221182630014008te84e>; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:26:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221100737.05fedc90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:28:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 In-Reply-To: <200312211420.hBLEKu403615@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBLIQa420241 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander writes, >"Premature Ejaculation: The Movie" or "Evening at Jackoffs" >would be closer to the mark of "le Club des frustre'es". Oh, and "Sad Fuckers Club" was the original script's title, so "le club des frustrées" is an attempt to capture that. The original title does nicely capture the sense of "loser" and sexual frustration together. MacDowell: >Talking to the 43-year-old actress, I wondered how she'd taken the >original title and if she missed it. She smiles. "My agent, she called me >up and said, 'I'm sending you a script, don't pay any attention to the >title, it's called "Sad Fuckers Club."' I said, 'I'm not doing anything >called "Sad *Fuckers* Club"'! Immediately I envisioned something without >any taste or class. When I read it, I wanted it to be called 'Sad Fuckers >Club' because it's so right. At the same time, I knew middle America would >never perceive it that way. I mean, I don't cuss. I don't want my kids to >cuss. I don't think it's tasteful. I think it's lower class and cheap. But >at the same time, it was just right." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 19:52:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL1qvdi007221 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:52:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8850B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 13:22:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:22:02 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLIM1419948 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:22:01 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBLIM0kF021098 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:22:00 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBLILxw3021096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:21:59 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:21:59 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back Message-ID: <20031221182159.GA21083@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> <20031221091225.GC20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE5BA35.2040504@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE5BA35.2040504@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >What is a flying lead change? = = = When a horse canters or gallops, they lead with one front leg = -- it strikes out further forward than the other leg (the = hind end is involved, too). This balances them when making = a turn. If you are circling to the right, they should be on = the right lead or they tend to fall in a little. It's = physics. A flying lead change is when you change which side = the horse leads with in mid-stride instead of coming down = into a trot and re-cuing for a canter on the other lead. = Ok, I get this, I think. This would be the way to go efficiently when you are making s-shapes. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 20:17:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL2HQdi007635 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:17:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88592@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 13:56:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 127803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:56:32 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLIkV421280 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:46:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 94466 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Dec 2003 18:46:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:46:31 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trial of the century Message-ID: <20031221184631.GA87542@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Where are the headlines which make really clever use of Michael Jackson's songs? I need something creative like that to keep me interested! Otherwise, this is what I am saddled with ... I just got another issue of a "Writers" magazine, after cancelling my subscription two years ago. On the cover I see "Are Agents Necessary?" Any guesses? I'll tell you. After a long-winded assessment, it turns out they aren't necessary. But unless you really know what you are doing, like the writer whose (ambivalent) case the article began with, you are probably better off with an agent. What is the moral of this story? That I could tell what the article contained, without reading a single word. It's all syntax, everybody is writing in syntax. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 20:28:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL2Svdi007820 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:28:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A885B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 14:08:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:08:02 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLJ82422559 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:08:02 -0500 Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (smtp01.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.121]) by smtpout02.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA98M53GACKXTPA for (sender ); Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5211 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2003 19:05:46 -0000 Received: from 1cust55.tnt1.lex2.da.uu.net (HELO computer) (68.135.130.55) by smtp01.nyc.untd.com with SMTP; 21 Dec 2003 19:05:46 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c3c7f5$c690d000$37828744@computer> Reply-To: From: To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: WLM: Pilates Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:08:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-ContentStamp: 2:3:2101849084 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There's a holiday TV commercial (once you see one, you see it a million times) about a guy using his platinum credit card to hit on women in cafes -- "I see you have the purple; me too" -- but falling short on credit limit or expiration date or the like. The tag of the ad shows him making one more effort: the woman says "I like Pilates" and he says, "Yeah, I like to drink those too." :) brad From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 20:51:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL2pJdi008184 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:51:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A885DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 14:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 128912 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:30:25 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLJUO423840 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:30:24 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLJUL4c016204 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:30:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:30:22 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1157827134.20031221133022@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. To be honest, I think she is every day. (Like Wonder Woman, I mean.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 21:46:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL3ksdi009127 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:46:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8866C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 15:25:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:25:59 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLKFw426450 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:15:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 46522 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Dec 2003 20:15:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:15:57 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WLM: Pilates Message-ID: <20031221201557.GA44531@words-l.org> References: <000301c3c7f5$c690d000$37828744@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c3c7f5$c690d000$37828744@computer> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 02:08:08PM -0500, Brad Grissom wrote: > The tag of the ad shows him making one more effort: the woman > says "I like Pilates" and he says, "Yeah, I like to drink those > too." :) He doesn't know what Pilates is. However, every viewer needs to know it. This paradox is pretty post-modern[*]! [*] stoopid From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 21:47:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL3ledi009134 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:47:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8866E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 15:26:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 129919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:26:45 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLKGi426520 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:16:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 46917 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Dec 2003 20:16:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:16:44 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Message-ID: <20031221201644.GB44531@words-l.org> References: <1157827134.20031221133022@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1157827134.20031221133022@WordWrite.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:30:22PM -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. > > To be honest, I think she is every day. (Like Wonder Woman, I mean.) LOL.:) That's why he is our sweet polenta! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 22:25:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL4P4di012105 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:25:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A886C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 130995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:04:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLL49429366 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:04:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBLL472f010193 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:04:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBLL45JC010165; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:04:06 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031221130640.00a4bc50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:06:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <1157827134.20031221133022@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:30 PM 12/21/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. > >To be honest, I think she is every day. (Like Wonder Woman, I mean.) > >Karen And her husband is complaining. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 22:44:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL4iFdi012439 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:44:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225839@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:23:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:23:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLLDK430032 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:13:20 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLLBtDG007472 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:11:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:13:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: <20031221032043.76204.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031221032043.76204.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> is NOT coffee. Coffee is made from ground >> roasted coffee beans. > >Here we go again. "Samantics". Nah. Taste. (Who is Sam?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 22:52:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL4qmdi012574 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:52:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A886FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:31:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:31:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLLLq430672 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:21:52 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLLKRDG010079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:20:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:21:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312211413.hBLEDl402578@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312211413.hBLEDl402578@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBLLLq430673 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>Clo - have you studied variation in ASL? The two who are speaking have >>just created a video, "WHATÕS YOUR SIGN FOR PIZZA? An Introduction to >>Variation in Amsrican Sign Language" (Ceil Lucas and Robert Bayley) >>(narrated by Clayton Valli). > >Just realized I could have answered more to the point. I know a fair amount >about regional variations and the reasons for them, and have a strong >opinion about the "standardization" process that's occurring in some areas. >There's also a lot of variation for tolerance to "invented" handshapes and >sign variants borrowed from SEE and other MCEs - manually coded sign systems. > >Did you have a question? Yes - thank you for answering it - or beginning to. Have you done survey work in your research on variation in ASL? If so, in what regions? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 20 22:56:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL4uOdi012635 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 22:56:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88702@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:35:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:35:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLLPT430866 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:25:29 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLLO4DG010920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:24:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:25:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. >She has solutions to hearing problems, knows how to fix >zippers, fold snowflakes, sign, has anecdotes about extreme >medicine, lived in Austin - do you have any stories of Lower >Manhattan from the sixties? (Pssst. Clo, I can lend you one if necessary,) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 00:50:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL6oYdi025732 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:50:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002258CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:59:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:59:28 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLLxS400703 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:59:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002258C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:59:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200312212159.hBLLxS400703@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:59:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:55:07 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >Natalie: > >>You are a wise woman, clo. > >Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. >She has solutions to hearing problems, knows how to fix >zippers, fold snowflakes, sign, has anecdotes about extreme >medicine, lived in Austin - do you have any stories of Lower >Manhattan from the sixties? That would tie up the weekend's >posts beautifully. > I'm sadly unacquainted w/ the city clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdi027025 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88730@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:57:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 132037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:57:46 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLLvk400442 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:57:46 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225888@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:57:45 -0500 Message-Id: <200312212157.hBLLvk400442@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:57:46 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Help! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:51:31 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Yes, always. Metal teeth used to be attached to what was essentially bias >> tape. Now, plastic teeth are attached to nylon. >> clo > >I started pinning the zipper last night, and it feels like plastic >teeth attached to bias tape to me. (It's a YKK zipper.) I don't think >it's stretchy at all. (But the fabric of the coat is very >slippery--I'm much more concerned about that.) > >Karen People who don't do a lot of sewing often don't realize the difference a small amount of give in a fabric makes. Yes, it's essentially bias tape, just not cotton. The relative importance of cutting on the bias to create tape is that you can make a binding that's just that little bit more forgiving to reach around the edges of, eg, skirt hems or necklines - circles that you have to stretch to get around. Similarly, attaching zipper to garment requires something that can flex to work on a variety of fabrics. But that extra tiny bit of give means you can accidentally stretch one side more than another, leaving the zipper lopsided. And yes, slippery fabric is a pain to work with. So pin carefully, go slow, and it'll be ok. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdi027026 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 133728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLMUq403270 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:30:53 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLMUBPO024931 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 14:30:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE61EC1.2080609@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:29:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back References: <3FE4D2F8.3010100@swbell.net> <20031221091225.GC20228@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE5BA35.2040504@swbell.net> <20031221182159.GA21083@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = > > = >What is a flying lead change? > = > = > = When a horse canters or gallops, they lead with one front leg > = -- it strikes out further forward than the other leg (the > = hind end is involved, too). This balances them when making > = a turn. If you are circling to the right, they should be on > = the right lead or they tend to fall in a little. It's > = physics. A flying lead change is when you change which side > = the horse leads with in mid-stride instead of coming down > = into a trot and re-cuing for a canter on the other lead. > = > > Ok, I get this, I think. This would be the way to go efficiently when you > are making s-shapes. Yes, or doing figure-8's over ground poles, which is what I was doing at the time. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdj027025 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A888AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 18:17:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:17:58 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLNHw406944 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:17:58 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLNHsbV2400346 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:17:54 -0600 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:17:54 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: References: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Burl likes lasagna! Earl liked anything with tomatoes in it. Kitty White, I have learned, likes gravy. -- Richard, and 5:30 out 6:15 back in From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdj027027 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A888D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 18:40:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:40:21 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (sea1-f162.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLNUL407676 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:30:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:30:15 -0800 Received: from 140.198.239.59 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:30:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [140.198.239.59] X-Originating-Email: [amy88williams@hotmail.com] X-Sender: amy88williams@hotmail.com From: "Amy Williams" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Society Page Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:30:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2003 23:30:15.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[63562240:01C3C81A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. In attendance were Master Carl, John's very nice friends Rod and Dawn, and two of their grandchildren. We all went to Pointe South Mountain for an excellent lunch on the sunny terrace amidst the bougainvillea and cacti. Tomorrow John, Carl and I will board the Sunset Limited at Maricopa bound for New Orleans. We'll be there until next weekend, then back to Mesa. The three of us will fly back to Kentucky Jan. 2, and John will stay there for another week. Carl and I still will not move here until the end of May -- we thought since we have several weeks off now that it would be more relaxing to get married now, and worry about the moving later. We are having a lovely day -- it is in the mid-70s; John and Carl are out in the back yard playing tag. We'll relax and get ready for a nice, relaxing ride to the Big Easy. We thought we'd let this be a surprise (or maybe not?) to all of you. Here are some wedding announcements appearing a bit earlier: http://www.onepaper.com/stthomasvi/?v=d&i=&s=Community:People&p=1071378534 http://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200312/17+0haH_weddings.html+200 31217 Mrs. John M. Williams _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdi027024 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88704@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 16:51:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 131807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:51:24 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLLpO432427 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:51:24 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:51:19 PST Message-ID: <20031221215119.54522.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:51:19 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001801c3c784$cb1d2040$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > > She was the guest of very wealthy people and > was invited to attend several parties with them > . . at which Sara was singled out by a group of > movie producers, etc. who kept trying to get > her into world-political discussions she did not > want to be part of, and who laid such heavy > criticism of our country upon her poor head > she was in pain from smiling and holding back > what she would like to have said had she not > been a guest. They even told her it was America's > fault that India has not become the world power it > should have been. Wow, that was a heavy load > to take to bed. Wonder if they couldn't have > thought of some other obvious reasons. That was, of course, extremely rude of them - even if it had a whit of truth in it, why would they hold her accountable? She must have her mother's ability to grin and bear it - up to a point. I'm sorry to hear that this sort of thing took place, for her sake. > > Some of their comments were very hurtful and > I felt bad when I heard them, then realized she > could have been in Hollywood and had just as > strange a conversation with a few movie producers > there. And a few infinitely stranger, I'd wager on that! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdi027027 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8888F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 18:07:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 134934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:07:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLN7E406265 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:07:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBLN7AvX001830 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:07:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:07:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1291636316.20031221170712@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: <200312212157.hBLLvk400442@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312212157.hBLLvk400442@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Similarly, attaching zipper to garment requires something that can flex > to work on a variety of fabrics. But that extra tiny bit of give > means you can accidentally stretch one side more than another, leaving the > zipper lopsided. And yes, slippery fabric is a pain to work with. So pin > carefully, go slow, and it'll be ok. Okay. I am entirely basted now, so my next task is finding all the sewing machine pieces and seeing if I can get it to work. (The last time I used it was several years ago.) Then I try sewing with scraps, and then I do the zipper. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdj027024 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A888C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 18:27:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:27:46 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLNRk407557 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:27:46 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:27:41 PST Message-ID: <20031221232741.39378.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:27:41 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trial of the century To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031221184631.GA87542@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Otherwise, this is what I am saddled with ... I just > got > another issue of a "Writers" magazine, after > cancelling > my subscription two years ago. On the cover I see > "Are > Agents Necessary?" > > Any guesses? I'll tell you. After a long-winded > assessment, > it turns out they aren't necessary. But unless you > really > know what you are doing, like the writer whose > (ambivalent) > case the article began with, you are probably better > off > with an agent. > > What is the moral of this story? That I could tell > what > the article contained, without reading a single > word. It's > all syntax, everybody is writing in syntax. Simple. When these pieces come your way, read the titles, headers, headlines, etc., and recycle the periodical. Or, recycle the words into your own article and have your agent submit it. Or, recycle your agent. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdj027026 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A888CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 18:30:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:30:08 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBLNU8407669 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:30:08 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:30:02 PST Message-ID: <20031221233002.75179.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: snow/cold To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > heh. Depends on what you're remembering. > > -- > Richard, wondering if Haz ever considered going for two Alright, have it your way - both of them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:12:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7CYdi027028 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A888A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 18:15:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:15:07 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBLNF7406808 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:15:07 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBLNF3bV5464312 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:15:03 -0600 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:15:03 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: snow/cold In-Reply-To: <20031221031243.98126.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031221031243.98126.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.0.84332 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: > I don't know that anyone gets over missing his da. heh. Depends on what you're remembering. -- Richard, wondering if Haz ever considered going for two From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7btdi027374 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:37:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8892A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:16:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 135993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:16:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM06u410472 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:06:56 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBM05UDG017004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:05:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:06:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Society Page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Amy Williams wrote: >John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice >private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa.... Most excellent! I wish you all much joy! >Tomorrow John, Carl and I will board the Sunset Limited at Maricopa bound >for New Orleans. We'll be there until next weekend, then back to Mesa. The .... Excellent travel plans! Best wishes to all - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:39:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7dndi027397 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:39:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225A56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:18:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136298 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:18:47 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM0Ik411328 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:18:46 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM0Ig4c000971 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:18:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:18:44 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <102755016.20031221181844@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: References: <86855032.20031220214352@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, mene tekel parsin wrote: >> Burl likes lasagna! > Earl liked anything with tomatoes in it. I miss Earl. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:44:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7igdi027437 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:44:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88937@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:23:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM0Nj411677 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:23:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-175.gwi.net [216.195.150.175]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBM0NhGn078257 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:23:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:23:54 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Where's Natalie? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie hasn't posted at all today. I'm worried about her. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 01:47:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL7lYdi027483 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:47:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8892D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:26:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:26:37 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM0Qb411844 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:26:37 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM0QY4c005409 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:26:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:26:35 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <615077562.20031221182635@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Natalie hasn't posted at all today. I'm worried about her. Me, too. Why don't you phone her? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 02:08:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL889di032247 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:08:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88972@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:47:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:47:12 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM0lC413362 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:47:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.236]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222004707.HWTX13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:47:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE63F0C.6090500@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:47:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Society Page References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Neat! Best wishes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 02:13:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL8DUdi032354 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:13:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:52:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 136953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:52:34 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM0qX413754 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:52:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.236]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222005228.HYPD13947.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:52:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE6404D.4000304@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:52:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Natalie hasn't posted at all today. I'm worried about her. I didn't realize I hadn't posted today. Maybe I haven't. It's been a busy day. The colleague who was in the car wreck shortly before Thanksgiving died yesterday. I've been involved in various communications with various people about it, and then several people met at my house to go up to the funeral home in Okolona together. The funeral is tomorrow, but I've got to be at another funeral at the same time. I've had conflicting activities many times in my life, but I think this is the first ever for a funeral conflict. (Actually, one is a memorial service for somebody who died in Texas in November. Her ashes are now here. I might have mentioned my having to figure out how to get in touch with a cemetery several weeks ago for a friend in England. It's his mother's ashes.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 02:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL8Jpdi032507 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:19:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88966@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 19:58:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:58:54 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM0ws413998 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:58:54 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-175.gwi.net [216.195.150.175]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBM0wq57005719 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:58:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:59:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <615077562.20031221182635@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Natalie hasn't posted at all today. I'm worried about her. > >Me, too. Why don't you phone her? >Karen Phone her???! She can't hear. And I can't talk. My cold has worsened and closed up my throat. Anyway, I see she has reported in. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 02:39:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL8dJdi032729 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:39:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A889C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 20:18:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 137603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:18:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM1IM415767 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:18:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBM1IK2f002368 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:18:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBM1IJJC002346; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:18:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031221171830.00a44b60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:21:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Society Page In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBL8dJdi032729 I love the photo! Congratulations to all of you. Betty At 11:30 PM 12/21/2003 +0000, Amy Williams wrote: >John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice >private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. In >attendance were Master Carl, John's very nice friends Rod and Dawn, and two >of their grandchildren. We all went to Pointe South Mountain for an >excellent lunch on the sunny terrace amidst the bougainvillea and cacti. > >Tomorrow John, Carl and I will board the Sunset Limited at Maricopa bound >for New Orleans. We'll be there until next weekend, then back to Mesa. The >three of us will fly back to Kentucky Jan. 2, and John will stay there for >another week. > >Carl and I still will not move here until the end of May -- we thought since >we have several weeks off now that it would be more relaxing to get married >now, and worry about the moving later. > >We are having a lovely day -- it is in the mid-70s; John and Carl are out in >the back yard playing tag. We'll relax and get ready for a nice, relaxing >ride to the Big Easy. > >We thought we'd let this be a surprise (or maybe not?) to all of you. > >Here are some wedding announcements appearing a bit earlier: > >http://www.onepaper.com/stthomasvi/?v=d&i=&s=Community:People&p=1071378534 > > >http://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200312/17+0haH_weddings.html+200 >31217 > > >Mrs. John M. Williams > >_________________________________________________________________ >Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! >http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 03:55:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBL9t6di001435 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:55:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88A30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 21:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 138847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:34:08 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM2Y8421326 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:34:08 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:34:02 PST Message-ID: <20031222023402.37091.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:34:02 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Society Page To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Amy Williams wrote: > John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in > a very nice > private ceremony in a historic home that is a > wedding chapel in Mesa. In > attendance were Master Carl, John's very nice > friends Rod and Dawn, and two > of their grandchildren. We all went to Pointe South > Mountain for an > excellent lunch on the sunny terrace amidst the > bougainvillea and cacti. > > Tomorrow John, Carl and I will board the Sunset > Limited at Maricopa bound > for New Orleans. We'll be there until next weekend, > then back to Mesa. The > three of us will fly back to Kentucky Jan. 2, and > John will stay there for > another week. > > Carl and I still will not move here until the end of > May -- we thought since > we have several weeks off now that it would be more > relaxing to get married > now, and worry about the moving later. > > We are having a lovely day -- it is in the mid-70s; > John and Carl are out in > the back yard playing tag. We'll relax and get ready > for a nice, relaxing > ride to the Big Easy. > > We thought we'd let this be a surprise (or maybe > not?) to all of you. > > Here are some wedding announcements appearing a bit > earlier: > > http://www.onepaper.com/stthomasvi/?v=d&i=&s=Community:People&p=1071378534 > > > http://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200312/17+0haH_weddings.html+200 > 31217 Well, I'm far too new and naiver, NOT to be surprised. Surprise engagement, surprise wedding, surprise - well, anyway. I'm raising my cup of cocoa to both of you. May you both stay healthy and always enjoy each other's company. And PC or not, God bless you, every one! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:13:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLAD1di001791 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:13:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225BCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 21:52:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:52:02 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM2q2423015 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:52:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.236]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222025156.HBWO1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:51:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE65C4D.6030305@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:51:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Phone her???! She can't hear. And I can't talk. My cold has worsened and Oddly enough, I've found that my best hearing since the ear rot came is on the telephone. I can barely hear it ring, but I can hear the voice pretty well -- much better than ftf conversations. Part of it may be that my left ear is not as bad as my right ear. My right ear is still throbbing some and is still totally stuffed, whereas the left ear gurgles occasionally now, meaning looser stuffing, and doesn't throb. I wonder if I could hear on the telephone with my right ear. It would feel too weird to try that, though. I don't think my right ear would know how to do a telephone even if in good health. I've had far more telephone conversations today than usual. None initiated by me, I should add. As I've mentioned before, answering the phone is not nearly as daunting as making a call is. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLAJedi001976 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:19:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88AB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 21:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:58:42 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM2wg423799 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:58:42 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.ea.43c12a02 (4206) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:58:31 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:58:31 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Society Page To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/21/2003 5:40:32 PM Central Standard Time, amy88williams@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. >> BEST WISHES!!!!!!!!!!!!! Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:22:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLAMadi002018 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:22:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88AC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:01:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:01:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM2pc422943 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:51:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBM2oDDG019668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:51:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Happy holidays to all ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I plan to leave for the monastery in the morning, and I shall go nomail before I leave. I plan to return on Friday. Meanwhile, I wish you all a joyous week and very happy holidays! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:22:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLAMpdi002022 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:22:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88AC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:01:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:01:53 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM2pq422966 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:51:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 78806 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Dec 2003 02:51:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:51:50 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Message-ID: <20031222025150.GA77650@words-l.org> References: <4.2.2.20031221130640.00a4bc50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031221130640.00a4bc50@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:06:51PM -0800, Betty wrote: > At 01:30 PM 12/21/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: > >On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. > > > >To be honest, I think she is every day. (Like Wonder Woman, I mean.) > > And her husband is complaining. What a moron! Let's talk a lot of trash about him. A LOT. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:23:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLANjdi002037 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:23:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88AC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:02:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:02:47 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM32l424191 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:02:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:02:42 PST Message-ID: <20031222030242.60146.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:02:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Happy holidays to all ... To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I plan to leave for the monastery in the morning, > and I shall go nomail > before I leave. I plan to return on Friday. > Meanwhile, I wish you all a > joyous week and very happy holidays! Same to you. Be careful! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:26:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLAQ8di002083 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:26:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88AC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:05:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:05:10 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM2tA423323 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:55:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 80887 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Dec 2003 02:55:09 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:55:09 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. Message-ID: <20031222025509.GB77650@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 04:25:28PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > >Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. > >She has solutions to hearing problems, knows how to fix > >zippers, fold snowflakes, sign, has anecdotes about extreme > >medicine, lived in Austin - do you have any stories of Lower > >Manhattan from the sixties? > > (Pssst. Clo, I can lend you one if necessary,) It's a trap! There's going to be a "US Reg Tm" on it in INVISIBLE INK! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:28:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLASSdi002107 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:28:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88ACC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:07:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:07:30 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM2vU423686 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:57:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 82043 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Dec 2003 02:57:29 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:57:29 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Trial of the century Message-ID: <20031222025729.GC77650@words-l.org> References: <20031221184631.GA87542@words-l.org> <20031221232741.39378.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031221232741.39378.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 03:27:41PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Otherwise, this is what I am saddled with ... I just got > > another issue of a "Writers" magazine, after cancelling > > my subscription two years ago. On the cover I see "Are > > Agents Necessary?" > > > > Any guesses? I'll tell you. After a long-winded assessment, > > it turns out they aren't necessary. But unless you really > > know what you are doing, like the writer whose (ambivalent) > > case the article began with, you are probably better off > > with an agent. > > > > What is the moral of this story? That I could tell what > > the article contained, without reading a single word. It's > > all syntax, everybody is writing in syntax. > > Simple. When these pieces come your way, read the > titles, headers, headlines, etc., and recycle the > periodical. Or, recycle the words into your own > article and have your agent submit it. Or, recycle > your agent. That's a great piece of syntax there ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:28:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLASpdi002120 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:28:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88ACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:07:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 139657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:07:54 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM2vr423725 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:57:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 82267 invoked by uid 1003); 22 Dec 2003 02:57:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:57:52 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back Message-ID: <20031222025752.GD77650@words-l.org> References: <001801c3c784$cb1d2040$99cadece@0018079268> <20031221215119.54522.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031221215119.54522.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:51:19PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Doris Markland wrote: > > > > She was the guest of very wealthy people and > > was invited to attend several parties with them > > . . at which Sara was singled out by a group of > > movie producers, etc. who kept trying to get > > her into world-political discussions she did not > > want to be part of, and who laid such heavy > > criticism of our country upon her poor head > > she was in pain from smiling and holding back > > what she would like to have said had she not > > been a guest. They even told her it was America's > > fault that India has not become the world power it > > should have been. Wow, that was a heavy load > > to take to bed. Wonder if they couldn't have > > thought of some other obvious reasons. > > That was, of course, extremely rude of them - even if > it had a whit of truth in it, why would they hold her > accountable? She must have her mother's ability to > grin and bear it - up to a point. I'm sorry to hear > that this sort of thing took place, for her sake. If you'd like me to apolgize on behalf of all Indians, let me know. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 04:48:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLAm7di002461 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:48:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88AD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:27:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:27:09 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3R9425680 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:27:09 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122203270301500jb6ine> (Authid: adamh1); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:27:03 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Society Page Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:27:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice > private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. Congratulations! Many felicitations to you all. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:05:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLB5ndi002790 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:05:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88B04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM3ip427476 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:44:46 PST Message-ID: <20031222034446.68073.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:44:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Trial of the century To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031222025729.GC77650@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > That's a great piece of syntax there ... You bet your syntax. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:12:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBCCdi002978 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:12:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225C56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:51:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:50:35 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3oS427963 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:50:28 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225C49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:50:28 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220350.hBM3oS427963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:50:27 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBM3oZ428021 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:21:51 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>>Clo - have you studied variation in ASL? The two who are speaking have >>>just created a video, "WHATÕS YOUR SIGN FOR PIZZA? An Introduction to >>>Variation in Amsrican Sign Language" (Ceil Lucas and Robert Bayley) >>>(narrated by Clayton Valli). >> >>Just realized I could have answered more to the point. I know a fair amount >>about regional variations and the reasons for them, and have a strong >>opinion about the "standardization" process that's occurring in some areas. >>There's also a lot of variation for tolerance to "invented" handshapes and >>sign variants borrowed from SEE and other MCEs - manually coded sign systems. >> >>Did you have a question? > >Yes - thank you for answering it - or beginning to. Have you done survey >work in your research on variation in ASL? If so, in what regions? > >Bethany No, I'm not an SL researcher. I merely have talked to signers from different regions, and also to researchers. "What regions" is an interesting question in itself - It appears to me that regions have some correlation to major residential schools for the deaf (many closed now), which is where signers from local communities meet and work out common ways of referring to shared referents - for instance, place names. Place names vary from region to region, but the current standard is to privilege the names used in the place's local region over those standard in the conversational locale, and over the area from which the conversants come as well. Even so, certain places - like Gallaudet and NTID (Rochester NY) in the East, and NM in the Southwest - have more influence because they are affiliated with training centers which have published lexical works. So some of the place names "everyone" knows may have come from Rochester, because "everyone's" interpreters studied the Rochester manuals in the '80s. Technical terminology for various fields, and even medical and sexual terminology have the same influences. Similarly, there's a heck of a lot of variation in grammar, and in the amount of initialization (using a first letter fingerspelling as part of the sign), and also in the use of "non-manual markers" - both facial expressions and mouthings that may or may not approximate a spoken word gloss of the sign; yet Gallaudet-standard or other teacher/interp prep program standards may infiltrate a local sign dialect quite heavily. Other major variants - 1) how much fingerspelling and for what purposes; 2) (mostly a historical footnote by now) which alphabet for fingerspelling. The two major variants used to be a one-handed alphabet imported by the French teacher Laurent LeClerc, and a 2-handed alphabet brought over from Britain. Most two-handed alphabeters around here are over 80 now - another case of dialect extinction, I fear. I'm a lot less conversant with variations in syntax, mostly because the two best-known variants (topic-comment a la Gallaudet and other east coast research and SVO a la MCEs borrowing structure from spoken Ls) are privileged by most people as a) best and b) most hated (which one is which varies according to local or political bias); many of the actual elements of regional dialects are dismissed by most people as "pidgin" in a pejorative sense, "not real grammar", "illiterate", etc. Is any of this meandering helpful at all? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:12:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBCHdi002983 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:12:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225C27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:51:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 140976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:51:16 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3pG428100 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:51:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88B15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:51:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:51:14 -0500 From: Janet Hardy Subject: haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, it appears that I may have a new romantic interest in my life (long story... someone that I've known slightly for a decade or so, and I answered his personal ad without knowing that it was him, because the person he was advertising for was exactly me, and it turns out he used to date Dossie's roommate and we know *all* the same people and it's just coincidence that we haven't hooked up already... so anyway...) We're at my place, cuddling and talking and getting to know each other, and, as he strokes my hair, he says, "OK, there's one thing I have to ask you." Tensing slightly, I ask, "What?" "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:13:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBDxdi003004 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:13:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88B48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:53:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:53:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3r0428377 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:53:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225C62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:53:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220353.hBM3r0428377@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:53:00 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:25:28 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >>Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. >>She has solutions to hearing problems, knows how to fix >>zippers, fold snowflakes, sign, has anecdotes about extreme >>medicine, lived in Austin - do you have any stories of Lower >>Manhattan from the sixties? > >(Pssst. Clo, I can lend you one if necessary,) > >Bethany LOL! Any that are safely told by one who was in grammar school at the time? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:16:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBGTdi003065 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:16:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225C4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:55:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:55:31 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3tV428651 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:55:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225C81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:55:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220355.hBM3tV428651@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:55:31 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Society Page To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:30:15 +0000, Amy Williams wrote: >John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice >private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. In >attendance were Master Carl, John's very nice friends Rod and Dawn, and two >of their grandchildren. We all went to Pointe South Mountain for an >excellent lunch on the sunny terrace amidst the bougainvillea and cacti. > >Tomorrow John, Carl and I will board the Sunset Limited at Maricopa bound >for New Orleans. We'll be there until next weekend, then back to Mesa. The >three of us will fly back to Kentucky Jan. 2, and John will stay there for >another week. > >Carl and I still will not move here until the end of May -- we thought since >we have several weeks off now that it would be more relaxing to get married >now, and worry about the moving later. > >We are having a lovely day -- it is in the mid-70s; John and Carl are out in >the back yard playing tag. We'll relax and get ready for a nice, relaxing >ride to the Big Easy. > >We thought we'd let this be a surprise (or maybe not?) to all of you. > >Here are some wedding announcements appearing a bit earlier: > >http://www.onepaper.com/stthomasvi/?v=d&i=&s=Community:People&p=1071378534 > > >http://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200312/17+0haH_weddings.html+200 >31217 > > >Mrs. John M. Williams > Congratulations. May you be happy, and Master Carl as well. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:17:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBHqdi003122 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:17:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225C94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:56:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:56:54 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3us428859 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:56:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88B6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:56:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220356.hBM3us428859@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:56:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:52:29 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >bonniev wrote: > >> Natalie hasn't posted at all today. I'm worried about her. > >I didn't realize I hadn't posted today. Maybe I haven't. It's been a >busy day. The colleague who was in the car wreck shortly before >Thanksgiving died yesterday. I've been involved in various >communications with various people about it, and then several people met >at my house to go up to the funeral home in Okolona together. The >funeral is tomorrow, but I've got to be at another funeral at the same >time. I've had conflicting activities many times in my life, but I >think this is the first ever for a funeral conflict. (Actually, one is >a memorial service for somebody who died in Texas in November. Her >ashes are now here. I might have mentioned my having to figure out how >to get in touch with a cemetery several weeks ago for a friend in >England. It's his mother's ashes.) > > I am so sorry to hear about your friend. I know this has been very tough. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:18:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBIpdi003130 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:18:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225CA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:57:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:57:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3vr429002 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:57:53 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBM3vp2f031129 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:57:52 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBM3voJC031110; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:57:51 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031221200001.00b5cec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:00:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: haunted by my past In-Reply-To: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:51 PM 12/21/2003 -0500, Janet Hardy wrote: >"What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > >Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? > >Janet I don't know but happy for you! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:19:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBJFdi003135 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225C79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM3wH429060 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:58:17 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:58:12 PST Message-ID: <20031222035812.16666.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:58:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031222025752.GD77650@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: I'm sorry to > hear > > that this sort of thing took place, for her sake. > > If you'd like me to apologize on behalf of all > Indians, let me know. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I use the word "apologize"? I didn't mean to, as I have no more right to ask for an apology from all Indians than anyone else has the right to speak for all Indians. Nor do I have a right to apologize for all ugly Americans who visit Europe. Can we call it a draw, and agree that rudeness is unacceptable in anyone? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:19:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBJPdi003139 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:19:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88B80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:58:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 141656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:58:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM3wQ429089 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:58:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225CB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 22:58:26 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220358.hBM3wQ429089@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:58:26 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:59:03 -0500, bonniev wrote: >> > Natalie hasn't posted at all today. I'm worried about her. >> >>Me, too. Why don't you phone her? >>Karen > >Phone her???! She can't hear. And I can't talk. My cold has worsened and >closed up my throat. Anyway, I see she has reported in. > > >bonnie This sounds really icky. I hate that choked feeling above many things that are actually more painful. I hope it clears up quickly! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:22:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBMjdi003227 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:22:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88BF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:01:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:01:47 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM41l429979 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:01:47 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:01:42 PST Message-ID: <20031222040142.70725.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:01:42 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Janet Hardy wrote: > Tensing slightly, I ask, "What?" > > "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > > Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? At all costs, refuse to answer. Stonewall until Iceland thaws. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:22:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBMudi003232 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:22:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88C0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:01:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 142881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:01:58 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM41v430036 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:01:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88C14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:01:57 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220401.hBM41v430036@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:01:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:51:50 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 01:06:51PM -0800, Betty wrote: >> At 01:30 PM 12/21/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >> >On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >> Clo is like Wonder Woman (Forrest Gump ?) this weekend. >> > >> >To be honest, I think she is every day. (Like Wonder Woman, I mean.) >> >> And her husband is complaining. > >What a moron! Let's talk a lot of trash about him. A LOT. What kind and comforting friends. He's not a moron, however. He simply sees me as a poor exchange for the wife he thought he was getting. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:24:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBONdi003263 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88C4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:03:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:03:24 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM43O430545 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:03:24 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B054B2B57C; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:03:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A688E2B8F1 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:03:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back In-Reply-To: <20031222035812.16666.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > Oh, I'm sorry. Did I use the word "apologize"? I > didn't mean to, as I have no more right to ask for an > apology from all Indians than anyone else has the > right to speak for all Indians. Well, how about just maybe 2%? That would help! I think Tushar should apologize for at least 2 % of all Indians. And Rashmi, well maybe we can dock her for 1%. (Tushar should apologize more, imho but ymmv.) That leaves kind of like 97% of Indians who haven't apologized. I can live with that. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:25:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBP3di003268 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:25:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88C80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:04:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 143740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:05 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM445430756 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88C65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:04:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220404.hBM445430756@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:51:14 -0500, Janet Hardy wrote: >Well, it appears that I may have a new romantic interest in my life (long >story... someone that I've known slightly for a decade or so, and I answered >his personal ad without knowing that it was him, because the person he was >advertising for was exactly me, and it turns out he used to date Dossie's >roommate and we know *all* the same people and it's just coincidence that we >haven't hooked up already... so anyway...) > >We're at my place, cuddling and talking and getting to know each other, and, >as he strokes my hair, he says, "OK, there's one thing I have to ask you." > >Tensing slightly, I ask, "What?" > >"What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > >Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? > >Janet Invite him to the Red Cat. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:25:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBPddi003280 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:25:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88CA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:04:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:41 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM44f430989 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:41 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:04:36 PST Message-ID: <20031222040436.56828.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312220401.hBM41v430036@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > What kind and comforting friends. He's not a moron, > however. > He simply sees me as a poor exchange for the wife he > thought > he was getting. What became of her? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:27:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBR2di003295 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:27:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88CCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:06:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:06:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM464431375 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:06:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225DDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:06:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220406.hBM464431375@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:06:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:01:42 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Janet Hardy wrote: >> Tensing slightly, I ask, "What?" >> >> "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" >> >> Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? > > >At all costs, refuse to answer. Stonewall until >Iceland thaws. > And do the Charleston until Tampa freezes over. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:28:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBS4di003309 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:28:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88CEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:07:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:06 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM476431637 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:06 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:07:01 PST Message-ID: <20031222040701.60645.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > That leaves kind of like 97% of Indians who haven't > apologized. I can > live with that. I imagine you'll have to. Live with it, that is> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:28:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBSJdi003319 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:28:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88D0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:07:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:21 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM47K431649 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:20 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 32EDA2B907; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256652B8E7 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:07:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:07:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312220401.hBM41v430036@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What kind and comforting friends. He's not a moron, however. > He simply sees me as a poor exchange for the wife he thought > he was getting. There's a cartoon, I think in the latest New Yorker, showing a man and woman at the marriage altar, and the man is saying to the woman "You'll do." I am still asking myself why my husband thought this was so funny, and so funny that HE SHOWED IT TO ME. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:28:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBSfdi003327 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:28:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88D0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:07:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:43 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM47h431693 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:43 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225E30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:07:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220407.hBM47h431693@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:07:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:03:23 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > >> Oh, I'm sorry. Did I use the word "apologize"? I >> didn't mean to, as I have no more right to ask for an >> apology from all Indians than anyone else has the >> right to speak for all Indians. > >Well, how about just maybe 2%? That would help! I think Tushar should >apologize for at least 2 % of all Indians. And Rashmi, well maybe we can >dock her for 1%. (Tushar should apologize more, imho but ymmv.) > >That leaves kind of like 97% of Indians who haven't apologized. I can >live with that. > >Ann I'm not sure which is most astonishing: the math, the manners, or "that leaves kind of like..." clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:30:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBU2di003377 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:30:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88D1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:09:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:09:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM494431924 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:09:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00225E06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:09:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220409.hBM494431924@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:09:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:04:36 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> What kind and comforting friends. He's not a moron, >> however. >> He simply sees me as a poor exchange for the wife he >> thought >> he was getting. > > >What became of her? > She morphed into a sowbelly bitch who thought she was Mother Superior, apparently. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 05:31:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLBVCdi003411 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:31:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88D02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:10:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 144990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:10:13 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4AD432041 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:10:13 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id BE9F62B8F4; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B210F2B8F2 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:10:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:10:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back In-Reply-To: <200312220407.hBM47h431693@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I'm not sure which is most astonishing: the math, the manners, or > "that leaves kind of like..." Well, I'm all like WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE MATH? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdi018456 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88D1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:27:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:27:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4RX400927 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:27:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225E52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:27:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220427.hBM4RX400927@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:27:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:24:23 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> See, this is where I get in trouble all the time. >> Why does "astonishing" mean "WRONG"!?! > > >Oh. You were astounded that it was correct. Not much better. > > I can see that my admiring non-manual markers are just not coming through. I just have to ask, though: Is there a place where one can get an MFA for Creative Math? And if not, why not? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdi018458 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88DC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:36:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:36:32 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4aW401853 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:36:32 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 1B0F92B582; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270922B8F4 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:36:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:36:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The eagles are back In-Reply-To: <200312220418.hBM4IH432639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I'm not sure which is most astonishing: the math, the manners, or > >> "that leaves kind of like..." > > > >Well, I'm all like WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE MATH? > > See, this is where I get in trouble all the time. > Why does "astonishing" mean "WRONG"!?! Well, the math is hardly astonishing in any sense; the manners, well, am I supposed to read astonishingly -good- manners? And "that leaves kind of like" is colloquial, to say the least - - so "astonishing," well, what can it mean, I don't know, but I doubt it means something good. I think you're fucking with me, clo, I honestly do. but "See, this is where I get in trouble all the time" sounds so gen-u-wine, I don't know what to think. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdi018457 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88DD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:34:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:34:48 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4Ym401765 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:34:48 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM4YivX002018 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:34:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:34:46 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <566305635.20031221223446@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The eagles are back In-Reply-To: <20031222025752.GD77650@words-l.org> References: <001801c3c784$cb1d2040$99cadece@0018079268> <20031221215119.54522.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <20031222025752.GD77650@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > If you'd like me to apolgize on behalf of all Indians, let me know. I would. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdj018459 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88DE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:50:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:50:45 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4oi402765 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:50:44 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225F10@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:50:44 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220450.hBM4oi402765@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:50:44 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:36:29 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> >> I'm not sure which is most astonishing: the math, the manners, or >> >> "that leaves kind of like..." >> > >> >Well, I'm all like WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE MATH? >> >> See, this is where I get in trouble all the time. >> Why does "astonishing" mean "WRONG"!?! > >Well, the math is hardly astonishing in any sense; the manners, well, am I >supposed to read astonishingly -good- manners? And "that leaves kind of >like" is colloquial, to say the least - - so "astonishing," well, what >can it mean, I don't know, but I doubt it means something good. > >I think you're fucking with me, clo, I honestly do. but "See, this is >where I get in trouble all the time" sounds so gen-u-wine, I don't know >what to think. > It's a pretty damn astonishing use of math is what it is, I'm amazed in a really good way that you thought of apportioning out the apology, it's such a brilliant thing to do. Imagine if Rush, for example, had spread out the apology among the medical staff who abetted his addiction - why, he'd probl'y be even more respected than ever. I think MJ and SH should hire you, I really do. As for the manners, they belong to various other participants so I can't imagine why you should be heated over them. But if I were astonished over Sara's restraint, would that be a bad thing? As for using the quotative "like", it's one of my goals in life to come to grips with the question "how many parts of speech like, anyhoo?". So I am gleeful and appreciative of the unexpected application. Unless I really am fucking with you... clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdk018455 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88E04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:56:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:56:11 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4uB403438 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:56:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225F26@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:56:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220456.hBM4uB403438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:56:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:09:04 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:04:36 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >>--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> What kind and comforting friends. He's not a moron, >>> however. >>> He simply sees me as a poor exchange for the wife he >>> thought >>> he was getting. >> >> >>What became of her? >> >[Moment of weakness deleted] I think actually she was lost in the mail. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdi018455 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88D1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:18:17 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4IH432639 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:18:17 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225E42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:18:17 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220418.hBM4IH432639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:18:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:10:12 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> I'm not sure which is most astonishing: the math, the manners, or >> "that leaves kind of like..." > >Well, I'm all like WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE MATH? > >Ann See, this is where I get in trouble all the time. Why does "astonishing" mean "WRONG"!?! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdi018459 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88DC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:42:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:42:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4gx402297 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:42:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM4gtvX007102 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:42:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:42:53 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1194640424.20031221224253@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: The eagles are back In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > I think you're fucking with me, clo, I honestly do. but "See, this is > where I get in trouble all the time" sounds so gen-u-wine, I don't know > what to think. That is SuperWoman's art.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdj018457 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88DD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:49:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:49:18 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4nH402631 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:49:18 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM4nEvX011054 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:49:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:49:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <128342346.20031221224916@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FE6404D.4000304@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <3FE6404D.4000304@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I didn't realize I hadn't posted today. Maybe I haven't. It's been a > busy day. The colleague who was in the car wreck shortly before > Thanksgiving died yesterday. I've been involved in various > communications with various people about it, and then several people met > at my house to go up to the funeral home in Okolona together. The > funeral is tomorrow, but I've got to be at another funeral at the same > time. I've had conflicting activities many times in my life, but I > think this is the first ever for a funeral conflict. Ick! Funeral conflicts suck. I'm sorry about your friend. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdj018456 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88DCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:48:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:48:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4m3402572 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:48:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM4m04c028781 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:48:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:48:01 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1835852579.20031221224801@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: > Phone her???! She can't hear. And I can't talk. My cold has worsened and > closed up my throat. Anyway, I see she has reported in. I'm sorry that you're still sick--and especially that you've gotten worse. If it will make you feel better, it's supposed to be 75 tomorrow--and then early Tuesday morning I head to colder climes. I'm not looking forward to it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdj018455 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A88DDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:46:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:46:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4k4402467 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:46:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM4k14c027458 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:46:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:46:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1477917240.20031221224603@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: haunted by my past In-Reply-To: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Janet Hardy wrote: > We're at my place, cuddling and talking and getting to know each other, and, > as he strokes my hair, he says, "OK, there's one thing I have to ask you." > Tensing slightly, I ask, "What?" > "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? LOL! It's an eternal question.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:19:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCJKdj018458 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:19:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88DD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:52:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 146822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:52:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM4qK403011 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:52:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225F14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:52:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220452.hBM4qK403011@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:52:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:48:01 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >On Sunday, December 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: >> Phone her???! She can't hear. And I can't talk. My cold has worsened and >> closed up my throat. Anyway, I see she has reported in. > >I'm sorry that you're still sick--and especially that you've gotten >worse. If it will make you feel better, it's supposed to be 75 >tomorrow--and then early Tuesday morning I head to colder climes. >I'm not looking forward to it. > >Karen Don't know farther west, but they're talking nothing colder than freezing from now through the 25th here. Cheer up - it could be worse! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:35:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCZfdi023977 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:35:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00225E4A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 21 Dec 2003 23:24:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 145196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:24:29 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBM4OS400512 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:24:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:24:23 PST Message-ID: <20031222042423.38775.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: The eagles are back To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312220418.hBM4IH432639@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > See, this is where I get in trouble all the time. > Why does "astonishing" mean "WRONG"!?! Oh. You were astounded that it was correct. Not much better. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:35:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCZfdi023978 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:35:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00225FE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 0:09:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 148563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:08:23 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM54r404920 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:04:53 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM54o4c008880 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:04:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1195545385.20031221230452@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <200312220452.hBM4qK403011@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312220452.hBM4qK403011@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Don't know farther west, but they're talking nothing colder > than freezing from now through the 25th here. > Cheer up - it could be worse! I know. It has been. I will never forget driving back from Chicago and not being able to see the lane striping. My perfect Christmas is snow on the night of the 23rd that stops the morning of the 25th after presents are opened. It may restart any time after the 28th, TYVM. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:35:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCZudi024001 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:35:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88EE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 0:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:14:58 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM5Ev405854 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:14:57 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBM5Es4c014556 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:14:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:14:56 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17510301282.20031221231456@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <1195545385.20031221230452@WordWrite.com> References: <200312220452.hBM4qK403011@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <1195545385.20031221230452@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> Don't know farther west, but they're talking nothing colder >> than freezing from now through the 25th here. >> Cheer up - it could be worse! > I know. It has been. I will never forget driving back from Chicago and > not being able to see the lane striping. > My perfect Christmas is snow on the night of the 23rd that stops the > morning of the 25th after presents are opened. It may restart any time > after the 28th, TYVM. I just checked--Michigan won't be warmer than 35 when I'm there. Snow flurries every day. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:46:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCk9di024251 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:46:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 0:25:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:25:11 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM5PA406577 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:25:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBM5P6Rp028377 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:25:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002801c3c84c$1c5c8140$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Society Page Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:26:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice > private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. In > attendance were Master Carl, John's very nice friends Rod and Dawn, and two > of their grandchildren. We all went to Pointe South Mountain for an > excellent lunch on the sunny terrace amidst the bougainvillea and cacti. Congratulations! You know, years ago when people married on December 21 the joke was that they chose that date because it was the longest night of the year. Enjoy your trip . . enjoy your life. So glad to hear people being happy. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 06:50:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLCoodi024339 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:50:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88EFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 0:29:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:29:52 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM5Tp407068 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:29:52 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBM5TmRp006137 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:29:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00ea01c3c84c$c4247860$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001801c3c784$cb1d2040$99cadece@0018079268> <20031221215119.54522.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <20031222025752.GD77650@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: The eagles are back Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:30:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > That was, of course, extremely rude of them - even if > > it had a whit of truth in it, why would they hold her > > accountable? She must have her mother's ability to > > grin and bear it - up to a point. I'm sorry to hear > > that this sort of thing took place, for her sake. > > If you'd like me to apolgize on behalf of all Indians, let me know. That's a big job. No diegetic mutant hogs need apply. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 07:04:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLD4Ldi024558 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:04:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A88F33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 0:43:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 149513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:43:22 -0500 Received: from mail1.flex.com (mail1.flex.com [206.126.0.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM5hL408591 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:43:22 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by mail1.flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBM5h34T020010 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:43:12 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:44:13 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1835852579.20031221224801@WordWrite.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 21 Dec 2003 at 22:48, Karen Kay wrote: > and then early Tuesday morning I head to colder climes. > I'm not looking forward to it. And on Wednesday morning I, too, will head for colder climes for the first time in about 15 or 20 years. Yahoo! Weather says I'm looking at daily highs ranging from 29 to 43 and lows ranging from 17 to 30. I guess I ought to go out and buy some clothes tomorrow. I don't think my aloha shirts are going to cut it. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 07:43:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLDh6di032520 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:43:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88F8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 1:12:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:12:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM6C5411370 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:12:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002260A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 1:12:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312220612.hBM6C5411370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:12:04 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:44:13 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >On 21 Dec 2003 at 22:48, Karen Kay wrote: > >> and then early Tuesday morning I head to colder climes. >> I'm not looking forward to it. > >And on Wednesday morning I, too, will head for colder climes for the first time >in about 15 or 20 years. Yahoo! Weather says I'm looking at daily highs >ranging from 29 to 43 and lows ranging from 17 to 30. I guess I ought to go >out and buy some clothes tomorrow. I don't think my aloha shirts are going to >cut it. > > mem And to what does the sucky wintry North owe the pleasure? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 07:44:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLDiKdi032544 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:44:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A88F9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 1:23:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 150664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:23:21 -0500 Received: from mail1.flex.com (mail1.flex.com [206.126.0.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM6NL412064 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 01:23:21 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by mail1.flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBM6Mn4T038199 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:22:57 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:23:58 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FE6015E.24944.7E8C09@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200312220612.hBM6C5411370@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Dec 2003 at 1:12, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > And to what does the sucky wintry North owe the pleasure? The sucky wintry North will owe me nothing for whatever pleasures it holds. I'm heading west. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Dec 21 08:37:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBLEbhdi001161 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89057@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 2:16:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 152323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 02:16:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7r/9FaGZBwmyPN5vSH2tltX8/Vq8uCfb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBM7Gi416737 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 02:16:44 -0500 Received: from violet-pf2.rahul.net (violet.rahul.net [66.237.72.28]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561BF3061F for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by violet-pf2.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD44623349 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:16:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-O-Brave-New-World: There are 686 Yahoo Groups devoted to knitting X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Neal-Stephenson: Paper is a really advanced technology Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:16:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: haunted by my past Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > >Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? > >Janet Easily. Wordsler (n.). 1) one who engages in phatic drivel at the drop of a hat; 2) one who maintains a generally diegetic view of the world; 3) a participant in an online where the strong survive and the weak are killed and eaten with considerable regularity; 4) one whose mastery of arcane and useless knowledge rivals that of any Trivial Pursuit grandmaster; 5) a resident of an endless bog of self-reference. Ken Miller Bernard Chien Perro Memorial Institute for Words-L Studies From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 06:59:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMCwxdi006635 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:59:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89297@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 7:58:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:58:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMCmv425475 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:48:57 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBMClWDG015340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:47:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <20031222025509.GB77650@words-l.org> Message-ID: References: <20031222025509.GB77650@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> (Pssst. Clo, I can lend you one if necessary,) > >It's a trap! There's going to be a "US Reg Tm" on it in INVISIBLE INK! Good idea! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:01:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMD1Xdi006681 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:01:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A892AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:01:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:01:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMCpV425636 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:51:31 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBMCo5DG016087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:50:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:51:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312220350.hBM3oS427963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312220350.hBM3oS427963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: [snip of good stuff] >Is any of this meandering helpful at all? Yes! Thank you. Don't say more until I return, please - or copy me: dumasb@utk.edu. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:06:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMD6Cdi006748 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:06:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A892BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:06:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 157342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:06:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMCu2425895 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:56:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBMCsaDG017549 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:54:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. In-Reply-To: <200312220353.hBM3r0428377@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312220353.hBM3r0428377@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>(Pssst. Clo, I can lend you one if necessary,) >> > >LOL! >Any that are safely told by one who was in grammar school >at the time? Sure - I'll try to remember to send as soon as I return. The date is Spring 1961 - on the occasion of my 2nd trip to NYC. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:32:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDWBdi007089 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:32:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A892F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:32:08 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDW8429467 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:32:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA00A62TLA3H@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:27:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:27:26 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2c5d322c26c9.2c26c92c5d32@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Janet Hardy > We're at my place, cuddling and talking and getting to know each > other, and, > as he strokes my hair, he says, "OK, there's one thing I have to > ask you." > > Tensing slightly, I ask, "What?" > > "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" What a buzz kill ! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:36:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDaKdi007135 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:36:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8930A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:36:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:36:17 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDaH429663 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:36:17 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA00I5ZTSG7R@mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:31:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:31:47 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Society Page To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2c8fc72c6de1.2c6de12c8fc7@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Amy Williams > John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice > private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in > Mesa. Best wishes for lots of happiness to the three of you ! Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:38:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDchdi007163 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:38:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89317@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:38:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:38:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDce429821 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:38:40 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-208.gwi.net [216.195.155.208]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBMDcb59053174; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:38:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222083755.00b17f40@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:38:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: haunted by my past In-Reply-To: References: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:16 PM 12/21/2003 -0800, Bookrat wrote: >Easily. > >Wordsler (n.). 1) one who engages in phatic drivel at the drop of a hat; >2) one who maintains a generally diegetic view of the world; 3) a >participant in an online where the strong survive and the weak >are killed and eaten with considerable regularity; 4) one whose mastery of >arcane and useless knowledge rivals that of any Trivial Pursuit >grandmaster; 5) a resident of an endless bog of self-reference. ...took the words right out of my mouth... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:39:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDdgdi007173 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:39:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8931D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:39:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 158461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:39:40 -0500 Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDdd429921 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:39:39 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA00L2VTX6SV@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:34:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:34:52 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2c5d2b2caec1.2caec12c5d2b@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: mene tekel parsin > > Burl likes lasagna! > > Earl liked anything with tomatoes in it. > > Kitty White, I have learned, likes gravy. Laszlo is crazy about peanut butter. Oh, and my next-door neighbors are helping me be a bobo. Or maybe it's them who are the bobos. They came home from shopping yesterday with a gift for Laszlo. Dog biscuit mix and a bone shaped biscuit cutter from Restoration Hardware. (and I don't think they get coupons) Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:48:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDmOdi007278 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:48:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8935E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:48:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:48:22 -0500 Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDmM431050 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:48:22 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA00HK5UBMS6@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:43:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:43:18 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2c6fd62c5d9e.2c5d9e2c6fd6@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > She always fusses at me when I eat, because she thinks she should get > food when I do. She will continue to if you continue to give her food from the table. We never have with Laszlo and never will. I sneak him things while I'm cooking though that's different. And so far I haven't found anything he won't eat. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:50:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDo6di007326 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:50:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89358@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:50:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:50:03 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDo3431202 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:50:03 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-208.gwi.net [216.195.155.208]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBMDo059055085 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:50:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222084805.00b2cfa0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:49:56 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: whimsy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was a feature article in the past week's local paper---now AP has picked up on it. We are waiting (but not in breathless anticipation) for PETA to weigh in. http://tinyurl.com/2epg7 cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 07:54:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMDs0di007359 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:54:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89353@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 8:53:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:57 -0500 Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMDrv431665 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:57 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA005S6ULYZ8@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:49:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:49:27 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: The Red Cat To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Cc: verdie@earthlink.net Message-id: <2ae7ef2ac045.2ac0452ae7ef@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.theredcat.com 227 Tenth Ave. That's 10th Ave between 23rd and 24th Streets. West side of the street. Sat, Dec 27 at 6:30 PM. So far we've got Janet, Ben, Miles, Natalie, Rashmi, and me in. Everyone else was wishy washy if I'm reading correctly. Terry? Clo? I'd like to make a reservation today. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:07:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBME73di007524 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:07:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8939B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:06:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 159983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:06:57 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBME6v400940 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:06:57 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA00KUMV7AMO@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.135] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:02:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:02:28 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Yummy greens To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2a8ecd2a7855.2a78552a8ecd@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi: > baby bok choy. This is a good addition to my greens > reportoire. This is something I never see in the market since moving to the burbs. I'll have to have *uc* pick some up in the city. Actually, before going to The Red Cat, my plan is to go to the new Chelsea Market...wanna join? Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:41:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMEfKdi007955 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:41:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00226565@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:41:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:41:15 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMEfE405449 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:41:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222144109.CLNZ1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:41:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE70285.2090808@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:41:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: <200312220350.hBM3oS427963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312220350.hBM3oS427963@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > many of the actual > elements of regional dialects are dismissed by most people as "pidgin" in > a pejorative sense, "not real grammar", "illiterate", etc. Sounds familiar. Remember the obnoxious Ebonics jokes back during the Oakland flap (and long before and after, just not with that name)? > Is any of this meandering helpful at all? I can't answer for Bethany (nor can she answer for herself right now, I guess -- wasn't she going nomail last night to leave for the monk's cave today?), but I will say that I found what you wrote interesting stuff. And I've been meaning to tell you that I really am going to send you all those audiotapes of Texas and Mississippi speakers one of these days. I have never been a procrastinator at all, but dealing with the stuff in this house from my office, my mother's house, etc. etc. has been too overwhelming for me to get to. I think I'm on the verge of it, though -- starting right after the holidays. I'm almost positive I'm not going to be teaching -- that I'm finally going to be really retired. YaY! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:42:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMEgsdi007969 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:42:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022653C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:42:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:42:51 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMEgp405777 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:42:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222144246.CMEL1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE702E6.9030309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:42:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: haunted by my past References: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > > Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? ROFL! I have yet to find an answer that non-wordslers really understand. Even after my most concentrated attempts, they look blank and uncomprehending. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:47:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMElHdi008091 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:47:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8945F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:47:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 161952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:47:14 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMElE406466 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:47:14 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBMElBRp020351 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:47:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003d01c3c89a$a768fc20$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Taj Trivia Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:48:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMElHdi008091 Bill and Hillary were at the Taj Mahal just a few days before Sara. Hillary asked for the recipe for the glue that has held the jewels in the walls all these years. She was told she could have it when they get the recipe for coke. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:53:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMErqdi008187 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A894A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:53:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:53:49 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMErn407196 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:53:49 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMErk4c026748 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:53:50 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <354295874.20031222085350@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <2c6fd62c5d9e.2c5d9e2c6fd6@optonline.net> References: <2c6fd62c5d9e.2c5d9e2c6fd6@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > She will continue to if you continue to give her food from the > table. No, she'll fuss whether I give her food or not. There are some things that Burl feels a sense of entitlement about. She even knows that food comes out of the fridge, so she sticks her nose in there when I open it. This is absurd, of course, because her nose it at the height of the vegetable drawers, but it doesn't stop her from being interested. > We never have with Laszlo and never will. I sneak him things > while I'm cooking though that's different. LOL. > And so far I haven't found anything he won't eat. Cool! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMEsWdi008192 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:54:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8948B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:54:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:54:29 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMEsS407275 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:54:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222145423.LVEJ1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:54:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE7059F.7080901@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:54:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <200312220356.hBM3us428859@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312220356.hBM3us428859@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I am so sorry to hear about your friend. I know this has been very tough. The family yesterday seemed in pretty good spirits. I think they're feeling somewhat relieved after over a month of agony. And I think they had a good bit of time to gradually make themselves accept the inevitable. After a bit of small hope near the beginning, I think the doctors were not encouraging them at all. The funeral home yesterday was mobbed, and I'm sure they are going to have continued support from friends. The mother still lives in Okolona, the small town we went to yesterday between here and Tupelo. That's where Linda, my colleague, grew up and where she will be buried today. Her husband works near Tupelo with lots of friends there. And they've lived in Starkville for many years, where they also have lots of friends. I know there will be tons of people at the funeral today, even though many, many English-dept people are out of town for the holidays. Linda was a much-appreciated colleague. She was one of only two instructors we had left (people with just an M.A. who teach freshman and sophomore courses) and was great about taking on all kinds of duties nobody else wanted to do, like being director of undergraduate studies (meaning being chief advisor of English majors, being in charge of the departmental booth at events for visiting hs students, etc. etc. etc.). I remember when she first showed up to get her M.A. here after being out of school for a long time. Hers was one of the first thesis committees I was ever on -- she wrote it on Milton. Anyway, yes it is very sad, but it is good that she's not going to lie there in a coma forever or regain consciousness to lead the life of a vegetable. How horrible it must be for her mother, though. I thought about that the whole time we were there yesterday -- about the horror of a parent's attending her child's funeral. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:56:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMEu7di008214 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:56:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A894A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:56:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:56:04 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMEu2407465 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:56:02 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMEsopJ009237 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:54:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:56:02 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1799595239.20031222085602@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: whimsy In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222084805.00b2cfa0@pop.gwi.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222084805.00b2cfa0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > This was a feature article in the past week's local paper---now AP has > picked up on it. YaY! Keep Mt. Desert weird! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 08:57:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMEvedi008225 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:57:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A894B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 9:57:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:57:37 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMEvb407650 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:57:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222145732.LWRG1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE7065C.2020309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:57:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > There's a cartoon, I think in the latest New Yorker, showing a man and > woman at the marriage altar, and the man is saying to the woman "You'll > do." > > I am still asking myself why my husband thought this was so funny, and so > funny that HE SHOWED IT TO ME. My old hs friends still laugh about our friend Katherine's statement (Bonnie has met Katherine) when we were all there with her right after her wedding when she was changing clothes for the getaway -- I think the proper word was "going away." She at some point nodded and said something like, "I think he'll do." And he has. They are still happily married almost forty years later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:00:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMF0tdi008329 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:00:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A894C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 162828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMF0q408322 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:00:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222150047.LYIP1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE7071F.1020909@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:00:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> <1835852579.20031221224801@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1835852579.20031221224801@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Sunday, December 21, 2003, bonniev wrote: > >>Phone her???! She can't hear. And I can't talk. My cold has worsened and >>closed up my throat. Anyway, I see she has reported in. > > I'm sorry that you're still sick--and especially that you've gotten > worse. If it will make you feel better, it's supposed to be 75 I think half of Starkville has the epizudics. This is a weird winter. > tomorrow--and then early Tuesday morning I head to colder climes. > I'm not looking forward to it. I'm not looking forward to the fact that I should probably wear a hat to protect head and ears in NYC. That bothers me because it means I will have flat hair, which will put me in a bad mood. I hate flat hair. It's been doing a pretty good job lately of poking up on top, which makes me happy, but if I put a cap on for even a few seconds, it goes totally flat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:11:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFBEdi008455 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:11:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8950C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:11:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:11:11 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFBB410270 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:11:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222151106.GINX20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:11:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE7098A.3060702@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:11:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221192332.00bb8f98@pop.gwi.net> <3FE6404D.4000304@maynor.net> <128342346.20031221224916@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <128342346.20031221224916@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Ick! Funeral conflicts suck. I'm sorry about your friend. The one today for the ashes won't be as sad as some funerals are since this person was in her late eighties and had supposedly not known who she was or where she was for the past couple of years. It will be good to see my old friends also, though I'm sure that they will be tied up with family and not have much visiting time. They lived here for many years, then retired for her to be a dean at Lamar University and for him to be some kind of mid-level administrator there. She then moved to be dean or associate provost or something at whatever is in South Bend, Indiana, while he moved to U of North Texas. (Their being in different places is not unusual. They often rotated between here and Australia, one of them teaching here, the other in Australia.) Now at least he and I think both of them have permanent jobs at a university in England -- I've forgotten which one. Their five children are grown and spread around the world, some in this country, some elsewhere. It's their youngest daughter whom I think I quoted here once before as having said that if Bush won the election she was going to leave the country. He did, and she moved to China. Her parents and I both found that somehow a funny choice. I could go on about this family because they're very interesting people. Lots of enemies here, though I always liked them. Their oldest son is the person I might have mentioned one time who with his wife when they got married came up with a solution of the whose name to take -- they invented a new name that was a combination of their two last names. He was Shillingsburg, she was Milner, so they became Shillner -- or maybe it's Shilner. Problem is that they're now divorced. I asked his father when he was solving the mystery of my bathroom light while through town a couple of years ago whether Robert was keeping the name Shillner now that they were divorced, and he said he wasn't sure yet. He (the father) was never enthusiastic about that name change and was clearly hoping that Robert would go back to his old name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:15:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFFZdi008521 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:15:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8953C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:15:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:15:32 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFFV410985 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:15:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222151526.GKSI20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:15:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE70A8E.3080805@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:15:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Society Page References: <002801c3c84c$1c5c8140$99cadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <002801c3c84c$1c5c8140$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > on December 21 the joke was that they chose that date > because it was the longest night of the year. Eek! I forgot to celebrate the solstice! It was a night earlier this year, right? (Yes, I am stupid about these matters, but I have it stuck in my head that the 22nd is the right night to celebrate some years but that it was the 21st this year.) In any case, my spirits are lifted by the thought that THE SUN IS RETURNING!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:16:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFGUdi008528 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:16:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8953F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:16:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:16:27 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFGR411116 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:16:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222151622.GLFC20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:16:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE70AC5.6050302@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:16:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > And on Wednesday morning I, too, will head for colder climes for the first time > in about 15 or 20 years. Yahoo! Weather says I'm looking at daily highs Where are you going? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:18:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFI3di008556 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:18:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8952F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:17:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 163848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:18:00 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFHx411251 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:17:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.142.145]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222151754.GLXF20397.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:17:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE70B22.1090108@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:17:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <3FE6015E.24944.7E8C09@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FE6015E.24944.7E8C09@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > The sucky wintry North will owe me nothing for whatever pleasures it holds. > I'm heading west. Japan? I missed a great party in Tokyo on the 19th. But be aware -- I heard yesterday that some of the Starkville epizudics flew to Tokyo last week. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFMddi008602 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:22:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8956C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:22:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:22:30 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFMT412135 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:22:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-208.gwi.net [216.195.155.208]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBMFMQGp033432; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:22:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222102151.00b45340@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:22:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Taj Trivia In-Reply-To: <003d01c3c89a$a768fc20$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:48 AM 12/22/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Bill and Hillary were at the Taj Mahal just a >few days before Sara. Hillary asked for the >recipe for the glue that has held the jewels in >the walls all these years. She was told she >could have it when they get the recipe for coke. ummm--Coca Cola, right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:27:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFRDdi008666 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:27:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89579@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 164607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFRA413190 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:27:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBMFR7Rp016809 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:27:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3c8a0$3bf154a0$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222102151.00b45340@pop.gwi.net> Subject: Re: Re: Taj Trivia Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:28:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Taj Trivia > At 08:48 AM 12/22/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > >Bill and Hillary were at the Taj Mahal just a > >few days before Sara. Hillary asked for the > >recipe for the glue that has held the jewels in > >the walls all these years. She was told she > >could have it when they get the recipe for coke. > > ummm--Coca Cola, right? I would assume so. Also I should have said "the tour guides said that " This sounds to me like a canned story for tourists, with different names being inserted from time to time. Anyway, I don't know that Clintons were recently in India. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:46:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFkvdi008989 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:46:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89606@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:46:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 165181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:46:53 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFap415095 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:36:51 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMFam4c012712 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:36:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:36:52 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <597007432.20031222093652@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Another poll MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Take the time and opportunity to submit your opinion on whether you favor or oppose gay marriages. The American Family Association has a poll you can answer at www.marriagepoll.com. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 09:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMFmmdi009016 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:48:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A895F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:48:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:48:43 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFmh417324 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:48:43 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQA006N7ZX7W7@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:44:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:44:13 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2bd7602c2c71.2c2c712bd760@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Karen Kay > On Monday, December 22, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > > She will continue to if you continue to give her food from the > > table. > > No, she'll fuss whether I give her food or not. I think Laszlo is learning that it's a waste of time. He mostly camps out on his bed while we're eating. Sometimes with a little fuss, but he's getting it. > > > And so far I haven't found anything he won't eat. > > Cool! That include sticks and cardboard, however... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 10:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMGDkdi014047 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:13:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89642@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:53:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:53:40 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFre418476 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:53:40 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMFrb4c000646 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:53:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:53:41 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <205332967.20031222095341@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <2bd7602c2c71.2c2c712bd760@optonline.net> References: <2bd7602c2c71.2c2c712bd760@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Karen Kay >> On Monday, December 22, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: >> > She will continue to if you continue to give her food from the >> > table. >> >> No, she'll fuss whether I give her food or not. > I think Laszlo is learning that it's a waste of time. He mostly > camps out on his bed while we're eating. Sometimes with a little > fuss, but he's getting it. I tend to feed her when I'm cooking. That distracts her from my food, but it sets up another precedent, that I will feed her when I'm eating. Sometimes I throw her out of the house when I'm cooking, because it's less trouble. She's a happy cat, so she doesn't mind. >> > And so far I haven't found anything he won't eat. >> >> Cool! > That include sticks and cardboard, however... Cats are clearly superior beings. The first time Burl went in the refrigerator, I was surprised. But now we are regularly to be found both staring inside as if all the secrets of the universe were contained within. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 10:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMGDkdi014049 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:13:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89680@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:59:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 167087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:59:38 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.74]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFxc419642 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:59:38 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQB006T00FEG5@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.79] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:55:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:55:08 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <2c2afa2c45e2.2c45e22c2afa@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen > I tend to feed her when I'm cooking. That distracts her from my food, > but it sets up another precedent, that I will feed her when I'm > eating. Sometimes I throw her out of the house when I'm cooking, > because it's less trouble. She's a happy cat, so she doesn't mind. Does she get on the counters and the table? That's yucky. I don't think feeding snacks while you are cooking equates to feeding from the table. I think there's a clear distinction which animals can understand. Dogs anyway. I actually never had a begging cat. > Cats are clearly superior beings. Hey, that's not nice. Remember, anyway, I'm both a cat and a dog person. I don't think either is clearly superior. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 10:13:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMGDkdi014048 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:13:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89640@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:55:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 166692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:55:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMFt4418928 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:55:04 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMFrspJ010725 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:53:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:55:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1698289720.20031222095507@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031221195829.00bce9b8@pop.gwi.net> <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sunday, December 21, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > And on Wednesday morning I, too, will head for colder climes for the first time > in about 15 or 20 years. Yahoo! Weather says I'm looking at daily highs > ranging from 29 to 43 and lows ranging from 17 to 30. I guess I ought to go > out and buy some clothes tomorrow. I don't think my aloha shirts are going to > cut it. No. You'll at least need a coat and gloves. Have a good time, Mem. Enjoy the cold, knowing you don't live there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 10:43:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMGhNdi013568 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:43:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8971F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:23:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 168623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:23:17 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMGNH423585 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:23:17 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMGN94c003465 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:23:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:23:12 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <525745863.20031222102312@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Who knew? In-Reply-To: <2c2afa2c45e2.2c45e22c2afa@optonline.net> References: <2c2afa2c45e2.2c45e22c2afa@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Marie Ascher wrote: > Karen >> I tend to feed her when I'm cooking. That distracts her from my food, >> but it sets up another precedent, that I will feed her when I'm >> eating. Sometimes I throw her out of the house when I'm cooking, >> because it's less trouble. She's a happy cat, so she doesn't mind. > Does she get on the counters and the table? That's yucky. No--she's not a jumper. I would not tolerate that behavior. > I don't think feeding snacks while you are cooking equates to feeding > from the table. I think there's a clear distinction which animals can > understand. Dogs anyway. I actually never had a begging cat. I don't feed Burl from the table. When I'm cooking, she meows to let me know that she's there, and available to eat whatever I'm making. (She's very quiet, so this often startles me.) She then stands very close to my feet so I won't miss her. (She doesn't even do the foot twining thing, which I find Very Annoying. She doesn't rub at all, just comes close.) If I come too close to stepping on her, she goes in the exercise room and just watches for me to drop something. If it's something like a bit of raw onion, she's on it in a flash, and then spurns it in disdain. (I think some of this is The Thrill Of The Hunt for her--she really is an outdoor cat.) If she wants what I'm eating while I'm eating, she gives me The Stare. I guess, now that I write this, her behavior is not that egregious. If I eat something I think she'll like, I let her eat the crumbs off my plate when she's done. (That's what she did with the lasagna.) That's the majority of our food interactions. If it's something I think will go bad but I can't stand to eat any more of it, there may actually be some food left, but usually it's tiny bits. >> Cats are clearly superior beings. > Hey, that's not nice. Remember, anyway, I'm both a cat and a dog person. > I don't think either is clearly superior. I was just trolling you. They are clearly very different. I think I could be either, given the right animal. Burl is clearly a good fit for me, as Laszlo is for you. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 10:50:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMGoUdi013692 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:50:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A897B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:50:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 169933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:50:27 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMGoQ427028 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:50:27 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:50:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:50:02 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Society Page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-874 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMGoUdi013692 Aha! so the M is for married! Congratulations! An auspicious beginning. May your life together be filled with more bougainvillea than cactus. BrP >>> amy88williams@HOTMAIL.COM 12/21/03 06:30PM >>> John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice private ceremony in a historic home that is a wedding chapel in Mesa. In attendance were Master Carl, John's very nice friends Rod and Dawn, and two of their grandchildren. We all went to Pointe South Mountain for an excellent lunch on the sunny terrace amidst the bougainvillea and cacti. Tomorrow John, Carl and I will board the Sunset Limited at Maricopa bound for New Orleans. We'll be there until next weekend, then back to Mesa. The three of us will fly back to Kentucky Jan. 2, and John will stay there for another week. Carl and I still will not move here until the end of May -- we thought since we have several weeks off now that it would be more relaxing to get married now, and worry about the moving later. We are having a lovely day -- it is in the mid-70s; John and Carl are out in the back yard playing tag. We'll relax and get ready for a nice, relaxing ride to the Big Easy. We thought we'd let this be a surprise (or maybe not?) to all of you. Here are some wedding announcements appearing a bit earlier: http://www.onepaper.com/stthomasvi/?v=d&i=&s=Community:People&p=1071378534 http://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200312/17+0haH_weddings.html+200 31217 Mrs. John M. Williams _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 11:21:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMHLHdi014436 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:21:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8985E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:21:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:21:13 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMHLC731536 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:21:12 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBMHKqN8045546 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:21:01 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:22:02 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FE69B9A.2237.1BDEC0@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3FE70AC5.6050302@maynor.net> References: <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Dec 2003 at 9:16, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Where are you going? Seoul. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:09:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMI9Adi015304 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8999D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMI95305821 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMI924c018641 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:09:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:09:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1174947465.20031222120907@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FE69B9A.2237.1BDEC0@localhost> References: <3FE5F80D.4224.5A25FD@localhost> <3FE69B9A.2237.1BDEC0@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 22 Dec 2003 at 9:16, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Where are you going? > Seoul. Why? This will be fun! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:10:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMIA4di015314 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:10:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A899A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:59 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMI9x305933 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:59 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:09:34 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: 12/20/2003 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMIA4di015314 It's just called "Crush" However, imdb says: Also Known As: Certain Age, A (2000) (UK: working title) Drei Freundinnen und ein Liebhaber (2002) (Germany: video title) Heiraten für Fortgeschrittene (2002) (Germany) Sad Fuckers Club (2001) (UK: working title) BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 12/20/03 06:15PM >>> 6. Saw a movie listing brought back from Paris recently. It had a blurb on a movie called in French "Crush: Les __________ Frustrees" and supposedly titled in English "Bad Fucker." I have googled and don't know what the hell? It had Andie MacDowell in it. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:16:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMIGJdi015418 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:16:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A899BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:16:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:16:14 -0500 Received: from flex.com (flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMIGE306584 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:16:14 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBMIFlN8041370 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:15:55 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from mem@flex.com) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:16:56 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3FE6A878.7292.4E2279@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1174947465.20031222120907@WordWrite.com> References: <3FE69B9A.2237.1BDEC0@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 22 Dec 2003 at 12:09, Karen Kay wrote: > Why? This will be fun! Mainly because I have the dubious distinction of having been invited to tag along on someone else's honeymoon. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:17:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMIHfdi015435 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:17:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00226A87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 174829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:37 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMIHa306775 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A899B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312221817.hBMIHa306775@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:41:09 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> many of the actual >> elements of regional dialects are dismissed by most people as "pidgin" in >> a pejorative sense, "not real grammar", "illiterate", etc. > >Sounds familiar. Remember the obnoxious Ebonics jokes back during the >Oakland flap (and long before and after, just not with that name)? > >> Is any of this meandering helpful at all? > >I can't answer for Bethany (nor can she answer for herself right now, I >guess -- wasn't she going nomail last night to leave for the monk's cave >today?), but I will say that I found what you wrote interesting stuff. > >And I've been meaning to tell you that I really am going to send you all >those audiotapes of Texas and Mississippi speakers one of these days. I >have never been a procrastinator at all, but dealing with the stuff in >this house from my office, my mother's house, etc. etc. has been too >overwhelming for me to get to. I think I'm on the verge of it, though >-- starting right after the holidays. I'm almost positive I'm not going >to be teaching -- that I'm finally going to be really retired. YaY! > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks - I knew you didn't forget. Here's hoping you have a productive and retiring New Year! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:20:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMIKndi015471 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:20:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A899F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:20:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:20:45 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMIKi307661 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:20:44 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:20:37 PST Message-ID: <20031222182037.87458.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:20:37 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE7059F.7080901@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Linda was a much-appreciated colleague. She was > one of only two > instructors we had left (people with just an M.A. > who teach freshman and > sophomore courses) and was great about taking on all > kinds of duties > nobody else wanted to do, like being director of > undergraduate studies > (meaning being chief advisor of English majors, > being in charge of the > departmental booth at events for visiting hs > students, etc. etc. etc.). > I remember when she first showed up to get her > M.A. here after being > out of school for a long time. Hers was one of the > first thesis > committees I was ever on -- she wrote it on Milton. > > Anyway, yes it is very sad, but it is good that > she's not going to lie > there in a coma forever or regain consciousness to > lead the life of a > vegetable. How horrible it must be for her mother, > though. I thought > about that the whole time we were there yesterday -- > about the horror of > a parent's attending her child's funeral. It is truly sad, and please accept my promise that I'll be thinking of you. This might have gone on for months, however, and at least it didn't turn into the horrendous mess they have with the case in FL. One of the tragedies of growing older (as I am) is watching your friends and family come to the ends of their lives. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:21:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMILHdi015475 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:21:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A899E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:21:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:21:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMILD307709 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:21:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00226A9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:21:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200312221821.hBMILD307709@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:21:12 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Medicinces etc. To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:57:32 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Ann Borkin wrote: > >> There's a cartoon, I think in the latest New Yorker, showing a man and >> woman at the marriage altar, and the man is saying to the woman "You'll >> do." >> >> I am still asking myself why my husband thought this was so funny, and so >> funny that HE SHOWED IT TO ME. > >My old hs friends still laugh about our friend Katherine's statement >(Bonnie has met Katherine) when we were all there with her right after >her wedding when she was changing clothes for the getaway -- I think the >proper word was "going away." She at some point nodded and said >something like, "I think he'll do." And he has. They are still happily >married almost forty years later. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I think in some contexts it would be very sweet, though it also rings - now- of Babe's master - "Tha'll do, pig". It's a lot less funny as a substitution for "I do". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:31:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMIV7di015627 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:31:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00226A9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 175662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:30:56 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMIUt309293 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:30:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00226A9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:30:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312221830.hBMIUt309293@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:30:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:16:56 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >On 22 Dec 2003 at 12:09, Karen Kay wrote: > >> Why? This will be fun! > >Mainly because I have the dubious distinction of having been invited to tag >along on someone else's honeymoon. *Splutter!* Oh, there's a story here! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 12:53:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMIr5di015928 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:53:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89ABB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 177340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:53:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMIr0313425 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:53:00 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMIpppJ005729 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:51:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:53:04 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1219315231.20031222125304@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Where's Natalie? In-Reply-To: <3FE6A878.7292.4E2279@localhost> References: <3FE69B9A.2237.1BDEC0@localhost> <3FE6A878.7292.4E2279@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 22 Dec 2003 at 12:09, Karen Kay wrote: >> Why? This will be fun! > Mainly because I have the dubious distinction of having been invited to tag > along on someone else's honeymoon. Oh, dear. I hope that this isn't as fifth-wheelish as it sounds. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:19:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJJTdi016480 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:19:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89B85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:19:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 179147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:19:24 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJJO318114 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:19:24 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 06BC52B91C; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90012B912 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: earthquake Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:26:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJQfdi016574 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:26:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89BBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:26:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 179690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:26:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJQZ319451 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:26:36 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200312221926280140034p36e>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:26:29 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222112642.03e3ccc0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:27:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin writes, >here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? Pretty large-scale swaying motion here, and lasted *really* long, like 60+ seconds. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:28:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJSpdi016598 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:28:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89BD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:28:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 179842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:28:46 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJSk319794 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:28:46 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id BF7542B8F0; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD56F2B56F for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:28:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:28:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222112642.03e3ccc0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Pretty large-scale swaying motion here, and lasted *really* long, like 60+ > seconds. > Here's what they're telling us: I'm sure there will be much more coverage, but preliminary reports indicate that the earthquake you probably felt in the last couple of minutes was a 6.4 quake centered in the San Simeon area..... Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:31:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJVXdi016633 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:31:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89BE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:31:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJVS321005 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:31:28 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-208.gwi.net [216.195.155.208]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBMJVP59007149; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:31:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222143106.00b4e490@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:31:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:19 AM 12/22/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? How astonishing. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:32:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJWNdi016642 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:32:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89BE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:32:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:32:18 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMJWI321149 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:32:18 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:32:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:32:08 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: earthquake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMJWNdi016642 USGS says: A strong earthquake occurred at 11:15:56 AM (PST) on Monday, December 22, 2003. The magnitude 6.5 event occurred 11 km (7 miles) NE (49 degrees) of San Simeon, CA. The hypocentral depth is 8 km ( 5 miles). http://tinyurl.com/23r5r BrP >>> aborkin@RAHUL.NET 12/22/03 02:19PM >>> here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:38:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJc6di016762 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:38:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89C1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:38:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:38:01 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJc1321756 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:38:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMJbwvX007929 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:37:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:38:03 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1093453101.20031222133803@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? Vertical or horizontal? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:40:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJeadi016807 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:40:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89C20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJeU322095 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:30 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 31F572B8FB; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292082B574 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: <1093453101.20031222133803@WordWrite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 22, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > > here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? > > Vertical or horizontal? horizontal. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:40:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJerdi016817 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:40:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89C23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:48 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJem322145 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89C2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200312221940.hBMJem322145@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:40:48 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: earthquake To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:28:45 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Peter Kaminski wrote: >> >> Pretty large-scale swaying motion here, and lasted *really* long, like 60+ >> seconds. >> >Here's what they're telling us: > >I'm sure there will be much more coverage, but preliminary reports >indicate that the earthquake you probably felt in the last couple of >minutes was a 6.4 quake centered in the San Simeon area..... > >Ann Wow. How... unseasonal. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:41:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJfGdi016827 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:41:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89C18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:41:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:41:11 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJfB322233 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:41:11 -0500 Received: from computer (client-151-197-197-186.ba-dsg.net[151.197.197.186]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <200312221941001110074f87e> (Authid: plotkina@worldnet.att.net); Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:00 +0000 Message-ID: <015f01c3c8c3$60031ae0$bac5c597@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312220351.hBM3pG428100@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: haunted by my past Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:39:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Hardy" To: Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: haunted by my past some deleted.. > > "What the hell is a 'wordsler'?" > > Now how the hell do you answer a question like that? > > Janet > Tell this person to join us and learn our evil. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:41:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJfRdi016831 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:41:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89C34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:41:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:41:22 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJfM322266 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:41:22 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122219411601600rl7qce>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:16 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222114125.04623c80@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:42:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: <1093453101.20031222133803@WordWrite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Vertical or horizontal? *Very* horizontal here. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:43:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJh4di016841 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:43:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89C34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:42:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:42:59 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJgx322568 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:42:59 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122219425201600rklkce>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:42:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222114426.04699118@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:44:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222112642.03e3ccc0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you felt it: http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/ca/ Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:44:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJi8di016860 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:44:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89C37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:44:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 180998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:44:03 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJi3322695 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:44:03 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMJgppJ017245 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:42:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:44:07 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1731637375.20031222134407@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> On Monday, December 22, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >> > here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? >> >> Vertical or horizontal? > horizontal. Then I'm not worried for you.:) I still remember how I felt when the precursor to the Northridge quake hit--I was scared shitless. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:46:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJkVdi016902 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:46:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89C4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:46:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:46:27 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJkQ323079 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:46:26 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.6d.1f4d4bf6 (4012) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:46:01 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.1f4d4bf6.2d18a3f9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:46:01 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/22/2003 1:16:50 AM Central Standard Time, bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM writes: << 3) a participant in an online where the strong survive and the weak are killed and eaten with considerable regularity; >> Why am I still here when much stronger people have been felled? Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:49:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJnBdi016937 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:49:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89C67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:49:06 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMJn5323459 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:49:05 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:48:33 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: earthquake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMJnBdi016937 Busy day! 3.4 2003/12/22 11:42:33 35.671N 121.034W 6.4 13 km ( 8 mi) NNE of Cambria, CA 3.4 2003/12/22 11:41:04 35.547N 120.853W 0.9 12 km ( 7 mi) NNE of Cayucos, CA 3.3 2003/12/22 11:39:58 35.667N 121.051W 0.1 12 km ( 7 mi) NNE of Cambria, CA 3.6 2003/12/22 11:37:44 35.589N 120.971W 5.6 10 km ( 6 mi) ENE of Cambria, CA 2.5 2003/12/22 11:37:24 35.736N 121.114W 5.4 12 km ( 8 mi) NE of San Simeon, CA 3.3 2003/12/22 11:35:28 35.563N 120.878W 4.4 13 km ( 8 mi) N of Cayucos, CA 2.9 2003/12/22 11:33:58 35.602N 120.930W 0.1 14 km ( 9 mi) ENE of Cambria, CA 4.0 2003/12/22 11:31:05 35.541N 120.853W 5.4 11 km ( 7 mi) NNE of Cayucos, CA 4.4 2003/12/22 11:30:10 35.597N 120.982W 0.0 10 km ( 6 mi) ENE of Cambria, CA 3.9 2003/12/22 11:29:39 35.557N 120.842W 2.5 12 km ( 8 mi) W of Templeton, CA 4.7 2003/12/22 11:26:07 35.627N 121.020W 0.0 9 km ( 6 mi) NE of Cambria, CA 6.5 2003/12/22 11:15:56 35.706N 121.102W 7.6 11 km ( 7 mi) NE of San Simeon, CA BrP >>> Karen@WORDWRITE.COM 12/22/03 02:44PM >>> On Monday, December 22, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Karen Kay wrote: >> On Monday, December 22, 2003, Ann Borkin wrote: >> > here. The building rocked. Scary. I suppose we can expect more? >> >> Vertical or horizontal? > horizontal. Then I'm not worried for you.:) I still remember how I felt when the precursor to the Northridge quake hit--I was scared shitless. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:54:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJsWdi017019 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:54:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A89C64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:54:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:54:27 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMJsQ323954 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:54:26 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:54:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:54:04 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: earthquake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMJsWdi017019 Are you feeling the aftershocks? BrP >>> kaminski@ISTORI.COM 12/22/03 02:42PM >>> Karen Kay writes, >Vertical or horizontal? *Very* horizontal here. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 13:59:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMJxjdi017097 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:59:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89C8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:59:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:59:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMJxe324523 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:59:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00226CF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:59:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200312221959.hBMJxe324523@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:59:40 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:46:01 EST, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 12/22/2003 1:16:50 AM Central Standard Time, >bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM writes: ><< >3) a >participant in an online where the strong survive and the weak >are killed and eaten with considerable regularity; >>> > >Why am I still here when much stronger people have been felled? > >Evelyn Duncan >EDuncan368@aol.com >I'm not lost; I'm exploring. Evelyn, you put up with your mother. How much stronger do you think people can be? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 14:03:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMK3vdi017208 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:03:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89CA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:03:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:03:52 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMK3q325103 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:03:52 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122220034501500kcn3ie>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:03:45 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222120501.04747ea8@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:05:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Barfoot writes, >Are you feeling the aftershocks? Nope. There are sure a bunch of them, though! Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 14:04:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMK4cdi017219 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:04:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89C9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:04:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 181915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:04:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMK4X325187 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:04:33 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.84.1f232a4a (4012) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:04:23 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <84.1f232a4a.2d18a847@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:04:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/22/2003 2:00:03 PM Central Standard Time, clostran@SYR.EDU writes: << Evelyn, you put up with your mother. How much stronger do you think people can be? >> I see people here who can do things that I shy away from doing. I think of teachers as very strong people. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 14:07:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMK7idi017270 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:07:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89CCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:07:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:07:38 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMK7b325712 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:07:38 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMK7YvX002238 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:07:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:07:40 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1373092633.20031222140740@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: haunted by my past In-Reply-To: <84.1f232a4a.2d18a847@aol.com> References: <84.1f232a4a.2d18a847@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I see people here who can do things that I shy away from > doing. Well, yes. but it always works that way. Everyone looks at everyone else's stuff and says, "Wow, I could never do that!" Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 14:11:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMKB8di017346 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:11:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00226D59@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:11:02 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMKB2326076 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:11:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00226D2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:11:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312222011.hBMKB2326076@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:11:02 -0500 From: mem Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:53:04 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Oh, dear. I hope that this isn't as fifth-wheelish as it sounds. Probably not. The groom's father is going, too. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 14:14:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMKERdi017422 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:14:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89CF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:14:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 182670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:14:22 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMKEM326523 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:14:22 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:14:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:13:54 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBMKERdi017422 Is he cute? BrP >>> mem@LAVA.NET 12/22/03 03:11PM >>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:53:04 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >Oh, dear. I hope that this isn't as fifth-wheelish as it sounds. Probably not. The groom's father is going, too. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 15:24:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMLOudi018633 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:24:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89EBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:24:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 186832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:24:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMLOpj04176 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:24:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00226F00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:24:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312222124.hBMLOpj04176@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:24:50 -0500 From: mem Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:13:54 -0500, Paul Barfoot wrote: >Is he cute? I don't know. I've not met him. He's kind of old, though. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 15:55:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMLtxdi019053 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:55:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A89F58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:55:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:55:53 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMLtrj08237 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:55:53 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:55:47 PST Message-ID: <20031222215547.16476.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:55:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Society Page To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE70A8E.3080805@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: In any case, my > spirits are lifted by > the thought that THE SUN IS RETURNING!! Each winter, I count the days, knowing that after the Dec. 21/22, the days will grow longer by tiny degrees. By the end of Jan, I won't have to leave a light on in the house to be able to get the door unlocked in the evening. Yay, indeed! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 15:58:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMLwYdi019100 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:58:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00226F95@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:58:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:58:18 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMLwHj08494 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:58:18 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:58:12 PST Message-ID: <20031222215812.17105.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:58:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Taj Trivia To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222102151.00b45340@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: Hillary asked for the > >recipe for the glue that has held the jewels in > >the walls all these years. She was told she > >could have it when they get the recipe for coke. > > ummm--Coca Cola, right? That sneaky ol' Bill! Maybe they could use the Pepsi formula as a bargaining chip. Or Yoohoo? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 16:04:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMM4Ydi019268 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:04:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A89F91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:04:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 188845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:04:29 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMM4Sj09000 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:04:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.130.180]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031222220423.PPAL1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:04:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE76A67.9070805@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:04:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's Natalie? References: <3FE69B9A.2237.1BDEC0@localhost> <3FE6A878.7292.4E2279@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3FE6A878.7292.4E2279@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > Mainly because I have the dubious distinction of having been invited to tag > along on someone else's honeymoon. Kinky! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 16:30:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMMUFdi019732 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:30:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A0A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:30:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:30:09 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMMU9j12387 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:30:09 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:30:03 PST Message-ID: <20031222223003.26873.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:30:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Who knew? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <2bd7602c2c71.2c2c712bd760@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote: > I think Laszlo is learning that it's a waste of > time. He mostly camps out on his bed while we're > eating. Sometimes with a little fuss, but he's > getting it. > > > > > And so far I haven't found anything he won't > That include sticks and cardboard, however... I don't feed from the table. either, but I do when I am cooking. This leads to strange discoveries. One dog adored raw potato. Another would chose a slice of white bread over steak fat or bones. Jaysie, the current mistress of the house, could probably chew and swallow nails, but has a tough time with Ritz crackers. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 16:36:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMMakdi019830 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:36:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A0DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:36:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 191597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:36:39 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMMadj13176 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:36:39 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:36:33 PST Message-ID: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:36:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: earthquake To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222114125.04623c80@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, > > >Vertical or horizontal? > > *Very* horizontal here. CAN a building sway vertically? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 16:49:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMMmxdi019997 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A124@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 192233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:48:53 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBMMmrj14487 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:48:53 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:48:47 PST Message-ID: <20031222224847.75039.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:48:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <6d.1f4d4bf6.2d18a3f9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Why am I still here when much stronger people have > been felled? You're a tough cookie - and a survivor. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 17:11:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMNBddi020427 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002271D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 193704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:32 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMNBWj17035 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:32 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMNBSvX018132 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:11:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:11:34 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <985462152.20031222171134@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > CAN a building sway vertically? Have you ever been in an earthquake? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 17:21:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBMNLBdi020581 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:21:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002271F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 194030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBMNL5j17873 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBMNL14c023664 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:21:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:21:08 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1389507574.20031222172108@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: 1st pass for my zipper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY for kinesthetic memory! I managed to get my sewing machine up and running and did the first of 4 rows of stitching. I'm so glad my fingers remembered what to do, because my brain sure didn't! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN07Fdi021433 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:07:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A28E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:08 -0500 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.71]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN078j21846 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.241.163]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223000700.DNMD12844.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:07:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > CAN a building sway vertically? Something in the word "sway" suggests horizontal to me. I think I would use the word "move" or maybe "jump" for vertical movement. I do know, however, that vertical is when you spring into earthquake action -- that it's very serious business. As long as the motion is horizontal, you're ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:11:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0B8di021557 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A2AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:11:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:11:02 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0B1j22043 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:11:01 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN0Aw4c005037 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:10:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:05 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1725848180.20031222181105@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: All done... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But the snipping of extra threads and removal of the basting. YaY! There are a couple of places on the inside where the first row of threads didn't catch the material, but I can easily tack those down by hand. I hope this coat lasts for the rest of my life. (It should--I only wear it 10 days/year.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:12:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0Cfdi021607 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:12:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A2B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:12:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:12:34 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0CYj22142 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:12:34 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN0BMpJ011688 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:12:39 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I do know, however, that vertical is when you spring into earthquake > action -- that it's very serious business. As long as the motion is > horizontal, you're ok. Depends on what you mean by 'ok'. Several people are not 'ok' after today's earthquake, they are dead. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:15:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0FFdi021662 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:15:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00227320@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:15:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:15:09 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0F8j22313 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:15:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-155-208.gwi.net [216.195.155.208]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBN0F459050729; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:15:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222191444.00b57a10@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:15:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222114125.04623c80@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:36 PM 12/22/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Karen Kay writes, > > > > >Vertical or horizontal? > > > > *Very* horizontal here. > > >CAN a building sway vertically? Usually only once. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:16:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0GDdi021671 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:16:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A2BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:16:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 195840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:16:06 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0G5j22361 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:16:05 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBN0FOPO019151 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:15:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE788D7.5050307@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:14:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 22, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >>I do know, however, that vertical is when you spring into earthquake >>action -- that it's very serious business. As long as the motion is >>horizontal, you're ok. >> > > Depends on what you mean by 'ok'. Several people are not 'ok' after > today's earthquake, they are dead. I only heard one died. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:22:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0Madi021787 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:22:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A2B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:22:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 196005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:22:29 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0MTj22705 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:22:29 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN0MPvX016821 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:22:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:22:32 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1313206368.20031222182232@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <3FE788D7.5050307@swbell.net> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE788D7.5050307@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > I only heard one died. A clock tower (!) fell on 3 people in Paso Robles. I was just talking to Paul about Paso Robles, but the name escaped me. It's where I was stranded when my clutch cable broke. And Heather sent me flowers. And I couldn't find anyone's phone numbers, so I phoned Karsten. What I remember most is that I pulled out of a parking spot, and when I shifted into first, there was a sproing, and my car wouldn't move. And five minutes later a van pulled out with five strapping young men who lifted my car out of the way. I wish it always worked like that. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:42:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0g2di022103 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:42:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A35B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:55 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0ftj24136 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:55 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBN0ftrW016952 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:55 -0500 Received: from TWild.uri.edu ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBN0fsKj013308 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:41:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:42:30 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Red Cat Message-ID: <1829089218.1072122150@TWild.uri.edu> In-Reply-To: <2ae7ef2ac045.2ac0452ae7ef@optonline.net> References: <2ae7ef2ac045.2ac0452ae7ef@optonline.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Terry? Clo? I'd like to make a reservation today. > > Marie Sorry to be so late on this, can you add Alan and me in. Now I have a date and time I'll get to planning the trip. Thanks, Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 18:47:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN0lwdi022207 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:47:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A363@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:47:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:47:51 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN0lpj24544 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:47:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.241.163]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223004746.RXQI1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:47:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:47:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>I do know, however, that vertical is when you spring into earthquake >>action -- that it's very serious business. As long as the motion is >>horizontal, you're ok. > > Depends on what you mean by 'ok'. Several people are not 'ok' after > today's earthquake, they are dead. And you know that their dwelling was swaying horizontally? How do you know that? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 19:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN17Ldi022562 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A396@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:07:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 197975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:07:14 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN17Ej26206 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:07:14 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN174vX027766 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:07:11 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1452240837.20031222190711@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>I do know, however, that vertical is when you spring into earthquake >>>action -- that it's very serious business. As long as the motion is >>>horizontal, you're ok. >> >> Depends on what you mean by 'ok'. Several people are not 'ok' after >> today's earthquake, they are dead. > And you know that their dwelling was swaying horizontally? How do you > know that? Because the movement was described as 'a gentle rolling motion'. You don't get that from a vertical quake. See http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=1574671 . Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 19:23:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN1Nudi022790 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:23:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A3BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:23:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:23:49 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN1Nnj27281 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:23:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.241.163]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223012343.LSIR1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:23:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE7991F.8030105@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:23:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> <1452240837.20031222190711@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1452240837.20031222190711@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>And you know that their dwelling was swaying horizontally? How do you >>know that? > > Because the movement was described as 'a gentle rolling motion'. You From the dead person? > don't get that from a vertical quake. See > http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=1574671 . > > Karen > -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 19:28:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN1SZdi022854 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:28:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A3DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:28:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:28:28 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN1SRj27721 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:28:27 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN1SO4c015688 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:28:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:28:31 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1823806439.20031222192831@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <3FE7991F.8030105@maynor.net> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> <1452240837.20031222190711@WordWrite.com> <3FE7991F.8030105@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>And you know that their dwelling was swaying horizontally? How do you >>>know that? >> >> Because the movement was described as 'a gentle rolling motion'. You > From the dead person? Why do you believe that the dead person's experience of the earthquake was so different from anyone else's? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 19:37:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN1b8di023149 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:37:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A3E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:37:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 198579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:37:01 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN1b1j28248 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:37:01 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.b7.3abb21a6 (4206) for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:36:51 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:36:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/22/2003 4:49:03 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << You're a tough cookie - and a survivor. >> I don't feel tough; I feel sort of stopped up inside, as if I can't take on another thing. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:20:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2KTdi023935 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:20:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A464@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:20:21 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN2KLj32051 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:20:21 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:20:16 PST Message-ID: <20031223022016.29860.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:20:16 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: earthquake To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <985462152.20031222171134@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 22, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > > CAN a building sway vertically? > > Have you ever been in an earthquake? > > Karen No, that's why I'm asking. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:23:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2Nwdi024039 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:23:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A485@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 199976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN2Npj32302 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:23:45 PST Message-ID: <20031223022345.57600.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:23:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: earthquake To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222191444.00b57a10@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >CAN a building sway vertically? > > Usually only once. I take your point. Although it is said we've had quakes in AL, I have never actually been aware of them. And I don't want to be aware of them. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:33:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2X8di024171 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:33:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00227562@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:33:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 200373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:33:00 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN2X0j00683 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:33:00 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:32:54 PST Message-ID: <20031223023254.11801.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:32:54 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: haunted by my past To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I don't feel tough; I feel sort of stopped up > inside, as if I can't > take on another thing. Well, I know you can't afford the time of the money for a get-away. But next off day after the hols., why don't you plan one day in which you go anywhere you want by bus, train, whatever. Go to a museum, eat out at a nice place (doesn't have to be expensive), go to an interesting part of the city, go to the zoo. Let your mom and the pets take care of one another. And buy yourself something you wanted that you didn't get at Christmas (something inexpensive). It helps me to get out, I sometimes feel I am living alone, anyhow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:49:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2nfdi024449 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:49:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002275A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:49:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:48:52 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN2mqj02002 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:48:52 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN2mkvX029803 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:48:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:48:47 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1379770996.20031222204847@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <20031223022016.29860.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031223022016.29860.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> On Monday, December 22, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >> > CAN a building sway vertically? >> >> Have you ever been in an earthquake? >> >> Karen > No, that's why I'm asking. Well, my experience is that while the building is not necessarily swaying (more like thumping up and down), one's perception may be that swaying is involved. I think it's an inner ear thing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:52:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2qJdi024508 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:52:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A4FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:52:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:52:11 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN2qAj02180 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:52:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN2q74c001834 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:52:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:52:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1202121128.20031222205214@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: ARRRRGH! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hate it when the inanimate objects conspire against me! I had my sewing scissors when I ripped my coat, and now I can't find them. Oh. I just realized I probably can't take them with me anyway. Can I take my measuring tape with me? Or will they be afraid that I will strangle the pilot with it? Karen, leaving my nailfile at home From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:53:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2rYdi024525 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:53:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A508@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:53:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:53:26 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN2rQj02298 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:53:26 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBN2rO2M028858 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:53:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE7AD8C.80809@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:50:52 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE788D7.5050307@swbell.net> <1313206368.20031222182232@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On Monday, December 22, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I only heard one died. >> > > A clock tower (!) fell on 3 people in Paso Robles. I was just talking > to Paul about Paso Robles, but the name escaped me. It's where I was > stranded when my clutch cable broke. And Heather sent me flowers. And > I couldn't find anyone's phone numbers, so I phoned Karsten. Yahoo admits to two deaths now. Somebody must have survived your clock tower. > What I remember most is that I pulled out of a parking spot, and when > I shifted into first, there was a sproing, and my car wouldn't move. > And five minutes later a van pulled out with five strapping young men > who lifted my car out of the way. > > I wish it always worked like that. > > Karen > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 20:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN2x6di024620 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:59:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A4F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:58:58 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN2wwj02764 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:58:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([65.81.241.163]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223025852.TQCB1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE7AF6C.1010601@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:58:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: earthquake References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> <1452240837.20031222190711@WordWrite.com> <3FE7991F.8030105@maynor.net> <1823806439.20031222192831@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1823806439.20031222192831@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >>>Because the movement was described as 'a gentle rolling motion'. You > >> From the dead person? > > Why do you believe that the dead person's experience of the earthquake > was so different from anyone else's? Because he died. And the url you gave said that it was felt as a rolling motion in LA. Was the dead person in LA? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:03:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN338di024708 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:03:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002275BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:02:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:03:00 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN32xj03075 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:02:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN32rvX012531 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:02:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:03:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1733166433.20031222210300@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <3FE7AD8C.80809@swbell.net> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE788D7.5050307@swbell.net> <1313206368.20031222182232@WordWrite.com> <3FE7AD8C.80809@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On Monday, December 22, 2003, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>> I only heard one died. >>> >> >> A clock tower (!) fell on 3 people in Paso Robles. I was just talking >> to Paul about Paso Robles, but the name escaped me. It's where I was >> stranded when my clutch cable broke. And Heather sent me flowers. And >> I couldn't find anyone's phone numbers, so I phoned Karsten. > Yahoo admits to two deaths now. Somebody must have survived > your clock tower. The link I sent before had 3 deaths. Ah, Wired News says "First reports said three people were killed but officials said the two women were the only fatalities and that an additional 46 people were injured, some with broken bones and lacerations." I wouldn't consider broken bones 'ok' either, but Natalie's mileage may vary. I'm going to scream the next time some newscaster mispronounces Paso Robles. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:12:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3CKdi024862 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:12:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A517@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:12:10 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3CAj03836 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:12:10 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN3C74c020546 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:12:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:12:14 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <194157791.20031222211214@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: earthquake In-Reply-To: <3FE7AF6C.1010601@maynor.net> References: <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE790B2.8090804@maynor.net> <1452240837.20031222190711@WordWrite.com> <3FE7991F.8030105@maynor.net> <1823806439.20031222192831@WordWrite.com> <3FE7AF6C.1010601@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >>>>Because the movement was described as 'a gentle rolling motion'. You >> >>> From the dead person? >> >> Why do you believe that the dead person's experience of the earthquake >> was so different from anyone else's? > Because he died. Uh-huh. They were in a building with other people who didn't die, though, and who experienced it the same way according to what I saw on TV. > And the url you gave said that it was felt as a rolling motion in LA. > Was the dead person in LA? In Paso Robles, where James Dean died, remember? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:19:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3Jxdi025025 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:19:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022760D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:19:51 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3Joj04632 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:19:50 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBN3Jo2M012370 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:19:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE7B3B9.2030102@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:17:13 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: a transition year Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I put up the tree this morning (a $15 balsam pine from the hardware store around the corner) and let Ana decorate it. This is the first time she's put all the ornaments on herself. It's also the first time we've left ornaments off because we have too many. The first year we were married, I bought boxes of candy canes to decorate the tree because we had maybe 4 or 5 ornaments. Many of our ornaments are from the exchange students, many are the crappy kind made by Ana (no, really -- her Kindergarten teacher had a genius for ugly craft projects -- picture a Hallmark card angel glued inside a cut-open Table Talk Pie tin) -- those all went on. And the construction-paper angel Ana made at some point always goes on top surrounded by the delicate lace angels tatted by Karo's grandmother. Traditionalists will also be happy to know that I got my Christmas cards done today, too. I wrote a Christmas letter for the first time; I just don't keep in touch with anybody anymore. OB Words-l Moment: The newspaper reports a study on Alzeimer's conducted at Rush University in Chicago. I'm going to go read Middlesex. Ana is having a friend sleep over, so I have a long night of whispering and giggling ahead. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:20:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3KBdi025030 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:20:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A532@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:20:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:20:03 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3K3j04679 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:20:03 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122303195601600rkjate>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:19:57 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222191833.0483cb28@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:20:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: earthquake In-Reply-To: <1733166433.20031222210300@WordWrite.com> References: <3FE7AD8C.80809@swbell.net> <20031222223633.84254.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE78724.9090501@maynor.net> <1788599192.20031222181239@WordWrite.com> <3FE788D7.5050307@swbell.net> <1313206368.20031222182232@WordWrite.com> <3FE7AD8C.80809@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >The link I sent before had 3 deaths. Ah, Wired News says "First >reports said three people were killed but officials said the two women Looks like a brick building collapsed. Six pictures: http://tinyurl.com/2oppk story: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/7551237.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:27:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3Rldi025148 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:27:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A555@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:27:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 201897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:27:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3Rdj05254 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:27:39 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBN3RbW1022592 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:27:37 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBN3RaWq022574; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:27:37 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031222192935.00b69e30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:30:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: a transition year In-Reply-To: <3FE7B3B9.2030102@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:17 PM 12/22/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >I'm going to go read Middlesex. Ana is having a friend >sleep over, so I have a long night of whispering and >giggling ahead. I wanted Middlesex to continue. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:42:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3gtdi025346 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:42:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A593@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:42:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 202435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:42:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3glj07131 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:42:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00227666@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:42:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200312230342.hBN3glj07131@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:42:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: All done... To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:11:05 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >But the snipping of extra threads and removal of the basting. YaY! >There are a couple of places on the inside where the first row of >threads didn't catch the material, but I can easily tack those down by >hand. > >I hope this coat lasts for the rest of my life. (It should--I only >wear it 10 days/year.) > >Karen YaY - and congratulations! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:51:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3pKdi025579 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:51:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A5D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:51:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:51:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3pCj08684 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:51:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00227698@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:51:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312230351.hBN3pCj08684@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:51:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: earthquake To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:23:45 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> >CAN a building sway vertically? >> >> Usually only once. > >I take your point. Although it is said we've had >quakes in AL, I have never actually been aware of >them. And I don't want to be aware of them. > I felt one here in upstate NY, mm - maybe 1 year ago or so? We've only lived here a couple of years, so it can't be long - of course it was only a tiny one, but I distinctly saw the corner of the room dip and roll; it was very disorienting. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 21:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN3sddi025654 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:54:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A5D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 203208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:54:31 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN3sUj09151 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:54:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A5E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:54:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200312230354.hBN3sUj09151@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:54:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:52:14 -0600, Karen Kay wrote: >I hate it when the inanimate objects conspire against me! I had my >sewing scissors when I ripped my coat, and now I can't find them. > >Oh. > >I just realized I probably can't take them with me anyway. Can I take >my measuring tape with me? Or will they be afraid that I will strangle >the pilot with it? > >Karen, >leaving my nailfile at home Go to the airline website - there'll be a list. There are even "airline safe" thread nippers now. You can get them at craft stores. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:04:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN44Tdi025947 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:04:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A701@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN44Lj11938 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002277C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:04:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:04:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Christmas plans run amok To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Carolyn Ostrander Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My mom's sister aged 84 had angioplasty and a stint last week, but was hospitalized today in Florence SC with shortness of breath and chest pains. It appears that I may be driving to SC w/ my parents (Mom doesn't drive and Dad won't fly, and at 79 and 50 weeks is not up to driving 20 hrs alone), possibly tomorrow. This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me fascinating reading matter, and also the keeper of the homeplace. If she pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any more - that's another issue, though. First I have to get Mom down there to be with her. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:10:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4A5di026020 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:10:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A70D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:09:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:09:56 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN49uj12508 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:09:56 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:09:51 PST Message-ID: <20031223040951.59968.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:09:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE7B3B9.2030102@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU All this sounds like so much fun!! Our tree is up and decorated, interior of house decorated, freezer full of baked goods, presents bought and mostly wrapped - but I did it by myself, as Chris is not really able to do anything except sleep (meds). But I am determined NOT to let things seem abnormal. Oh well, next year will soon be here. --- Rita Chapman wrote: > I put up the tree this morning (a $15 balsam pine > from the > hardware store around the corner) and let Ana > decorate it. > This is the first time she's put all the ornaments > on > herself. It's also the first time we've left > ornaments off > because we have too many. The first year we were > married, I > bought boxes of candy canes to decorate the tree > because we > had maybe 4 or 5 ornaments. Many of our ornaments > are from > the exchange students, many are the crappy kind made > by Ana > (no, really -- her Kindergarten teacher had a genius > for > ugly craft projects -- picture a Hallmark card angel > glued > inside a cut-open Table Talk Pie tin) -- those all > went on. > And the construction-paper angel Ana made at some > point > always goes on top surrounded by the delicate lace > angels > tatted by Karo's grandmother. > > Traditionalists will also be happy to know that I > got my > Christmas cards done today, too. I wrote a > Christmas letter > for the first time; I just don't keep in touch with > anybody > anymore. > > OB Words-l Moment: The newspaper reports a study on > Alzeimer's conducted at Rush University in Chicago. > > I'm going to go read Middlesex. Ana is having a > friend > sleep over, so I have a long night of whispering and > giggling ahead. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:15:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4F0di026076 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:15:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A712@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:14:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:14:52 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN4Epj13214 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:14:51 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBN4EmRp010406 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:14:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3c90b$7a0cfa80$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:16:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My mom's sister aged 84 had angioplasty and a stint last week, > but was hospitalized today in Florence SC with shortness of > breath and chest pains. It appears that I may be driving to > SC w/ my parents (Mom doesn't drive and Dad won't fly, and at > 79 and 50 weeks is not up to driving 20 hrs alone), possibly > tomorrow. > > This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me fascinating > reading matter, and also the keeper of the homeplace. If she > pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any more - > that's another issue, though. First I have to get Mom down > there to be with her. > > clo > First things first. Good luck - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:16:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4Gndi026120 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:16:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8A726@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:16:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 205934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:16:41 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN4Gfj13665 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:16:41 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:16:35 PST Message-ID: <20031223041635.38631.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me > fascinating > reading matter, and also the keeper of the > homeplace. If she > pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any > more - > that's another issue, though. First I have to get > Mom down > there to be with her. Is it just me, or does it seem to others that terrible things seem to clump together around holidays? Our across-the-street died on Sat. Today, I was in the pharmacy, one of the pharmacists was told to pick up a phone line - she screamed "What?!!!". Somone had called her to say that her house was on fire. My mother called this PM to thank me for a gift, and she sounded TERRIBLE. I know how Evelyn feels:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:21:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4LVdi026220 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:21:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A714@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:13 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN4LCj14162 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:12 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN4L94c000653 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:21:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:21:16 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <972524691.20031222222116@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ARRRRGH! In-Reply-To: <200312230354.hBN3sUj09151@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312230354.hBN3sUj09151@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Go to the airline website - there'll be a list. There are even > "airline safe" thread nippers now. You can get them at craft > stores. I'm a little out of it--and Burl is acting weird. I'm afraid she's going to pee on something important. Anyway, what I wanted them for was to cut the threads on my coat, so I can pack it. Ligniere just showed up, too. I repeat, Arrrgh. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:21:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4Lkdi026223 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:21:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A717@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:37 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN4Lbj14183 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A729@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312230421.hBN4Lbj14183@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:21:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:16:35 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me >> fascinating >> reading matter, and also the keeper of the >> homeplace. If she >> pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any >> more - >> that's another issue, though. First I have to get >> Mom down >> there to be with her. > >Is it just me, or does it seem to others that terrible >things seem to clump together around holidays? Our >across-the-street died on Sat. Today, I was in the >pharmacy, one of the pharmacists was told to pick up a >phone line - she screamed "What?!!!". Somone had >called her to say that her house was on fire. My >mother called this PM to thank me for a gift, and she >sounded TERRIBLE. I know how Evelyn feels:-] > I sure hope this isn't the start of another round: last year, starting w/ the Friday before Tgiving, I lost someone every 10 days for 2 mos. - culminating with meeting Alyce online for the first time just abt the day she told the list there was another spot on the xrays. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:22:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4MOdi026244 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:22:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A718@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:22:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:22:16 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN4MGj14249 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:22:16 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN4MCvX005059 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:22:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:22:19 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19010002984.20031222222219@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok In-Reply-To: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> References: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > My mom's sister aged 84 had angioplasty and a stint last week, > but was hospitalized today in Florence SC with shortness of > breath and chest pains. It appears that I may be driving to > SC w/ my parents (Mom doesn't drive and Dad won't fly, and at > 79 and 50 weeks is not up to driving 20 hrs alone), possibly > tomorrow. Oh, boy. > This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me fascinating > reading matter, and also the keeper of the homeplace. If she > pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any more - > that's another issue, though. First I have to get Mom down > there to be with her. Have a safe trip. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:28:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4S7di026312 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:28:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022780D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:27:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 206942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:27:45 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN4Rjj15107 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:27:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBN4RfRp004282 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:27:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3c90d$46f7ab20$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031223041635.38631.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: Christmas plans run amok Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:28:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > > This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me > > fascinating > > reading matter, and also the keeper of the > > homeplace. If she > > pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any > > more - > > that's another issue, though. First I have to get > > Mom down > > there to be with her. > > Is it just me, or does it seem to others that terrible > things seem to clump together around holidays? Our > across-the-street died on Sat. Today, I was in the > pharmacy, one of the pharmacists was told to pick up a > phone line - she screamed "What?!!!". Somone had > called her to say that her house was on fire. My > mother called this PM to thank me for a gift, and she > sounded TERRIBLE. I know how Evelyn feels:-] I just got an email from a lady I don't know but who runs a genealogy newsletter for one of the family names I sometimes look into. She said "The police were just here . . to tell me my son was killed in a motorcycle accident. He was just finishing his medical residency. I don't know what to do. I think I will go to bed." So sad, and especially so at Xmas time. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4c7di026474 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:38:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00227939@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:37:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:37:59 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN4bxj15955 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:37:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022790A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:37:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200312230437.hBN4bxj15955@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:37:58 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:28:55 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> > >> > This is the beloved librarian aunt who fed me >> > fascinating >> > reading matter, and also the keeper of the >> > homeplace. If she >> > pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any >> > more - >> > that's another issue, though. First I have to get >> > Mom down >> > there to be with her. >> >> Is it just me, or does it seem to others that terrible >> things seem to clump together around holidays? Our >> across-the-street died on Sat. Today, I was in the >> pharmacy, one of the pharmacists was told to pick up a >> phone line - she screamed "What?!!!". Somone had >> called her to say that her house was on fire. My >> mother called this PM to thank me for a gift, and she >> sounded TERRIBLE. I know how Evelyn feels:-] > >I just got an email from a lady I don't know but who runs >a genealogy newsletter for one of the family names I >sometimes look into. She said "The police were just here . . >to tell me my son was killed in a motorcycle accident. He >was just finishing his medical residency. I don't know what >to do. I think I will go to bed." > > So sad, and especially so at Xmas time. > > - D. M. That is shock. I sure hope somebody's with her. I can't imagine a harder night. And for many to come. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:41:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4fkdi026497 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:41:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8A8A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:41:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 208934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:41:38 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN4fbj16325 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:41:37 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:41:32 PST Message-ID: <20031223044132.1047.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:41:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <972524691.20031222222116@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > I'm a little out of it--and Burl is acting weird. > I'm afraid she's > going to pee on something important. Anyway, what I > wanted them for > was to cut the threads on my coat, so I can pack it. > > Ligniere just showed up, too. I repeat, Arrrgh. Burl weird? What's she doing? Who is Ligniere? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:46:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4krdi026576 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:46:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A8A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:46:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:46:44 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN4kij16686 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:46:44 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:46:39 PST Message-ID: <20031223044639.2165.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:46:39 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312230421.hBN4Lbj14183@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > I sure hope this isn't the start of another round: > last year, starting w/ the Friday before Tgiving, I > lost someone every 10 days for 2 mos. - culminating > with meeting Alyce online for the first time just > abt > the day she told the list there was another spot on > the xrays. For us, the worst year was 1995. Chris lost his daughter and his father within 10 days of each other. His beloved aunt died on New Years' Eve. And I'm leaving out a bunch of other awful stuff. I sure hope along with you. Be careful on the way to SC. Remember, it's a jungle out there. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 22:49:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN4nadi026621 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:49:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8A8AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:49:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 209186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:49:27 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBN4nRj16879 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:49:27 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:49:21 PST Message-ID: <20031223044921.37080.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:49:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000601c3c90d$46f7ab20$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I just got an email from a lady I don't know but who > runs > a genealogy newsletter for one of the family names I > sometimes look into. She said "The police were just > here . . > to tell me my son was killed in a motorcycle > accident. He > was just finishing his medical residency. I don't > know what > to do. I think I will go to bed." > > So sad, and especially so at Xmas time. How awful! Sounds like she's in shock. The worst is when the shock wears off. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Dec 22 23:17:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN5H8di026991 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:17:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00227A5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 0:16:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 211863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:16:59 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN5Gxj20439 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:16:59 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN5FlpJ022820 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:15:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 23:17:00 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1167003264.20031222231700@WordWrite.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: ARRRRGH! In-Reply-To: <20031223044132.1047.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031223044132.1047.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Monday, December 22, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Karen Kay wrote: >> I'm a little out of it--and Burl is acting weird. >> I'm afraid she's >> going to pee on something important. Anyway, what I >> wanted them for >> was to cut the threads on my coat, so I can pack it. >> >> Ligniere just showed up, too. I repeat, Arrrgh. > Burl weird? What's she doing? Just very restless, wandering around the house looking at everything suspiciously. I did discover earlier today that she peed on my travel purse, but luckily that is washable (and machine dryable). > Who is Ligniere? Good question! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 03:07:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBN97Wdi031893 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:07:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00227DBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 4:07:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 219317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 04:07:22 -0500 Received: from ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBN97Kj09129 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 04:07:20 -0500 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (cs666847-226.austin.rr.com [66.68.47.226]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hBN97G4c021575 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:07:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 03:07:20 -0600 From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62r) Personal Reply-To: Karen Kay Organization: WordWrite X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Merry Christmas to all MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And to all a good night. I'm turning off the computer, back on the 29th. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 05:31:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNBVwdi002562 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 05:31:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00227EE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 6:31:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 222523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:31:47 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNBVkj18495 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:31:46 -0500 Received: from EDuncan368@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id c.11c.29b1f48f (4402) for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:31:37 -0500 (EST) From: EDuncan368@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.29b1f48f.2d198199@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:31:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] haunted by my past To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 12/22/2003 8:33:09 PM Central Standard Time, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes: << It helps me to get out, I sometimes feel I am living alone, anyhow. >> Yeah, even with Mom and the pets, I feel alone a lot of the time. I wish I had a friend in Tulsa to spend time with. Evelyn Duncan EDuncan368@aol.com I'm not lost; I'm exploring. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:30:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDUCdi005067 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:30:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B01D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:29:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDTxj13323 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:29:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNDTw2f004006 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 05:29:58 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNDTuJC003987; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 05:29:57 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031223052727.00b7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 05:32:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok In-Reply-To: <20031223041635.38631.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:16 PM 12/22/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Is it just me, or does it seem to others that terrible >things seem to clump together around holidays? Our >across-the-street died on Sat. Today, I was in the >pharmacy, one of the pharmacists was told to pick up a >phone line - she screamed "What?!!!". Somone had >called her to say that her house was on fire. My >mother called this PM to thank me for a gift, and she >sounded TERRIBLE. I know how Evelyn feels:-] It's a stressful time because people make it that way. Terrible things happen year round. Our neighbor's outdoor lights on his big pine tree started a fire. Lost his garage as well as smoke damage, hole in roof, water damage. I can't get out of my mind the image of two children burning in a car that a guy purposely set and the mother trying to rescue. I have to drive by this spot every day and it has really zapped my good feelings about the season this year. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:32:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDWgdi005100 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:32:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022808F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:32:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:32:28 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDWSj13554 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:32:28 -0500 Received: by mail.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:34:27 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-120-32.nb.no [158.39.120.32]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id ZFCQX71A; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:34:26 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20031223143130.02829468@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:31:44 +0100 Subject: Re: Society Page In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 23:30 21.12.2003 +0000 skrev Amy Williams: >John and I got married at around 10:40 a.m. today in a very nice Congratulations! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:36:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDaDdi005147 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:36:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022809A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:36:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 225768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:36:00 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDa0j13854 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:36:00 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNDZwRp013273 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:35:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Help Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:37:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBNDaDdi005147 Do people on msn have the address msn.com or msn.net? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:43:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDh1di005259 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:43:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:42:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:42:48 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDgmj14366 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:42:48 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.41] (HELO bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 40423197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:42:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE84656.2040503@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:42:46 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Doris, I don't know anybody personally with an msn account. However, there are a couple of messages in my inbox from strangers whose address is@msn.com. Rita L. Doris Markland wrote: >Do people on msn have the address >msn.com or msn.net? > > - D. M. > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:44:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDiAdi005276 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:44:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002280C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:43:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:43:57 -0500 Received: from fe2.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDhvj14451 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:43:57 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.41] (HELO bc.edu) by fe2.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 37794930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:43:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE8469C.4000405@bc.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:43:56 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE84656.2040503@bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <3FE84656.2040503@bc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That probably would have looked better with a space in it :-( @msn.com Rita L. Rita Leonard wrote: > Hi Doris, > > I don't know anybody personally with an msn account. However, there are > a couple of messages in my inbox from strangers whose address is@msn.com. > > Rita L. > > Doris Markland wrote: > >> Do people on msn have the address >> msn.com or msn.net? >> >> - D. M. >> >> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:49:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDnHdi005417 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:49:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B09C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:49:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 226531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:49:05 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDn4j15708 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:49:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223134859.YWUK1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:48:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE847CB.2040202@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:48:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok References: <20031223041635.38631.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031223041635.38631.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Is it just me, or does it seem to others that terrible > things seem to clump together around holidays? Our > across-the-street died on Sat. Today, I was in the > pharmacy, one of the pharmacists was told to pick up a > phone line - she screamed "What?!!!". Somone had > called her to say that her house was on fire. My > mother called this PM to thank me for a gift, and she > sounded TERRIBLE. I know how Evelyn feels:-] I had been thinking it was just my immediate environment that was this holiday season. I guess not. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:56:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDuedi005571 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:56:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B0C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:56:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:56:28 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDuRj16724 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:56:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223135622.YZWR1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:56:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE84986.6040009@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:56:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok References: <20031223044921.37080.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031223044921.37080.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >> So sad, and especially so at Xmas time. > > How awful! Sounds like she's in shock. The worst is > when the shock wears off. I am reminded of a soupy Hallmark movie I watched not long ago (I love soupy Hallmark movies) about a family who got word of their son's death while they were decorating the xmas tree on xmas eve. They didn't celebrate xmas at all for the next five years, but the movie was mainly about the happy ending of their going back to having xmas, with the help of their dead son, whose ghost came to help, and about how their daughter had thought all those years that they didn't celebrate xmas because they loved her brother better than they loved her. Re decorating trees so late -- how long do those of you who don't get trees until right before xmas leave them up? We've talked about this before, I think. I know we've talked about the belief some of us grew up with that leaving a xmas tree up after midnight on Dec. 31 was bad luck, but that's not what I'm talking about now. I'm thinking about how I wouldn't want to go to all the trouble of decorating for such a short period of time. In my childhood we always got the xmas tree the first weekend in December. That way it can be enjoyed for several weeks. We always took it down a day or two after xmas. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 07:58:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNDwOdi005655 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:58:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00228106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 8:58:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:58:03 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNDw3j16844 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:58:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223135758.ZANJ1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE849E6.6030007@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:57:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! References: <20031223044132.1047.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> <1167003264.20031222231700@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <1167003264.20031222231700@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Just very restless, wandering around the house looking at everything > suspiciously. I did discover earlier today that she peed on my travel > purse, but luckily that is washable (and machine dryable). Animals know when they're about to be left. And they don't like it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:03:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNE3Bdi005720 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:03:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B0EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:02:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:02:58 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNE2wj17345 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:02:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223140253.ZCWI1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:02:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE84B0D.5040206@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:02:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all References: <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> In-Reply-To: <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > And to all a good night. I'm turning off the computer, back on the > 29th. Uh oh. The list is going to dry up. I'll also be gone until the 29th. (But I won't be going nomail until tomorrow night.) I'm not going to bother to try to check e-mail from NYC because dealing with the spam is so much trouble. I've got to explore spam-filters sometime soon. It's become overwhelming. I hope I will be home the night of the 29th, although at this time of year things like that are sometimes iffy. The owner of Furrbabies has assured me that she will not kick Spencer out into the cold to fend for himself if something happens to delay my picking him up the afternoon of the 29th. I do hate having to fly from Tupelo. That makes it hard to predict exactly when I will make it to Furrbabies even if the plane is on time, and it's slightly out of the way (though not nearly so far out of the way as it would be if I had to come home and then pick him up the next day, which was the original plan when I thought I was going to be on a night flight -- thank goodness for Laguardia -- that Newark schedule was horrible both in the going and the returning). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:06:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNE66di005777 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:06:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B104@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:05:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 227661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:05:54 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNE5rj18424 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:05:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223140548.ZECX1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE84BBC.90106@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:05:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok References: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4.2.2.20031223052727.00b7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031223052727.00b7f100@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Our neighbor's outdoor lights on his big pine tree started a fire. Lost > his garage as well as smoke damage, hole in roof, water damage. Another soupy movie (not Hallmark, iirc) that I liked recently was about a widow and her bunch of children who fixed up an old house that burned down when one of the children set fire to the outhouse. I liked that movie. > I can't get out of my mind the image of two children burning in a car that > a guy purposely set and the mother trying to rescue. I have to drive by > this spot every day and it has really zapped my good feelings about the > season this year. That is horrendous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:18:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNEIBdi006009 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:18:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:17:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 228480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:17:59 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNEHwj20600 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:17:58 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNEHsRp005480 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:17:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01c3c95f$bcd297e0$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE84656.2040503@bc.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Help Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:19:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Hi Doris, > > I don't know anybody personally with an msn account. However, there are > a couple of messages in my inbox from strangers whose address is@msn.com. > > Rita L. Thanks, Rita. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:36:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNEaQdi006528 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:36:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002281AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:36:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 229765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:36:14 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNEaEk23680 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:36:14 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122314360801600ssq3ce> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:36:08 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Christmas plans run amok Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200312230404.hBN44Lj11938@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > pulls through, she won't be able to live alone any more - > that's another issue, though. First I have to get Mom down > there to be with her. I hope she pulls through and that you have a safe, uneventful trip. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNEhsdi006695 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:43:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B20E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:43:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:43:41 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNEhfk24828 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:43:41 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122314433501600ssq3ve> (Authid: adamh1); Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:43:35 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: a transition year Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:43:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031223040951.59968.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > but I did it by myself, as Chris is not really able to > do anything except sleep (meds). But I am determined > NOT to let things seem abnormal. Oh well, next year > will soon be here. Is there something I missed? Why is your husband on so many meds? Insert standard nosiness disclaimer here. FWIW, I haven't done any Christmas decorating whatsoever. I've listened to some Christmas music, managed to send out cards, and done my shopping. Oh, and I made the traditional lebkuchen, too, and shipped off portions to sisters and father out West. I even did my mom's shopping for the local kids - Christmas overwhelms her in the best of years, and with Granny's death just two weeks ago, I knew she definitely wouldn't be up to shopping - but even so, I'm not feeling too holiday-ish. It's also hard on me this year because the traditions I've been a part of all my life are no longer viable, so I'm having to create new ones. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNEmkdi006941 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:48:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00228205@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:48:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 230474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:48:31 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNEmUk25351 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:48:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBNEmT2M003202 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:48:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE85565.4000102@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:47:01 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a transition year References: <4.2.2.20031222192935.00b69e30@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 09:17 PM 12/22/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> I'm going to go read Middlesex. Ana is having a friend >> sleep over, so I have a long night of whispering and >> giggling ahead. > > > I wanted Middlesex to continue. I really, really like it so far. I love the writing/narrative voice, and his characters all feel lovely and familiar to me. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:58:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNEwSdi007200 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:58:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B273@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:58:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:15 -0500 Received: from gwia201.syr.edu (gwia201.syr.edu [128.230.248.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBNEwFk26926 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:15 -0500 Received: from MTA2-MTA by gwia201.syr.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.4 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:07 -0500 From: "Paul Barfoot" To: Subject: off until Monday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBNEwSdi007200 Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. I'm off until Monday to spend time with the kids who have all come home from their assorted scattered locations. :-) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:59:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNEx7di007216 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:59:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B27E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 9:58:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:54 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNEwsk27071 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNEwpRp022179 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:58:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Christmas Updates Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:00:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBNEx7di007216 As various ones are reporting on their progress with Xmas, I must report that my Xmas is over. Done. Past History. We consumed mass quantities of dangerous food, drank modest quantities of dangerous drink, exchanged presents, dangled babies, played games with the growing kids around the kitchen table, telephoned the ones who couldn't be here to see if they had received our packages, stayed up late, tried out the new cameras, tried on the new clothes, put together the puttogetherables, and finally saw everyone off and thanked God that once more we had lived through the whole thing. I am working on New Year's resolutions and planning my annual January exodus to Paradise. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNF2Pdi007263 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:02:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B29B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:02:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 231583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:02:12 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNF2Bk27742 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:02:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBNF2A2M014407 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:02:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:00:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Updates References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. Doris Markland wrote: > As various ones are reporting on their progress with Xmas, > I must report that my Xmas is over. Done. Past History. > We consumed mass quantities of dangerous food, drank > modest quantities of dangerous drink, exchanged presents, > dangled babies, played games with the growing kids around > the kitchen table, telephoned the ones who couldn't be here > to see if they had received our packages, stayed up late, > tried out the new cameras, tried on the new clothes, put > together the puttogetherables, and finally saw everyone off > and thanked God that once more we had lived through the > whole thing. > > I am working on New Year's resolutions and planning my > annual January exodus to Paradise. > > - D. M. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:11:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFBwdi007503 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:11:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00228315@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:11:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFBik29038 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:11:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBNFBhkF025514 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:11:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBNFBggd025512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:11:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:11:42 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <20031223151142.GA25435@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland: = Do people on msn have the address = msn.com or msn.net? = = - D. M. This is a tricky question. To be "on MSN", as in, "Are you on MSN?" is short in my world for, "Do you use MSN Messenger to chat online with?". It's possible to use any email address to sign up to this service, but most people use a Microsoft based one. MSN has something they call the MSN .Net passport. If you look at Google groups, you will find people with both msn.net and msn.com email addresses. The there's the whole Hotmail thing. When you have a hotmail.com free email address, when you log in to it, you do so via MSN. So someone might mean @hotmail.com. So when someone asks me, "Are you on MSN?" the answer is, "Yes, and I'll send you an email with my address in it." (this is because everyone I chat with, I already have their email address) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:21:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFLedi007856 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:21:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B2DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:21:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:21:26 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFLQk30419 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:21:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNFLORp011974 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:21:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3c968$9a21e440$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Christmas Updates Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:22:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: > Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. Because? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:22:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFMvdi007884 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:22:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B2FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:22:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:22:44 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFMik30797 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:22:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNFMfRp014562 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:22:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01c3c968$c85b1520$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> <20031223151142.GA25435@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Help Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:23:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland: > = Do people on msn have the address > = msn.com or msn.net? > = > = - D. M. > > > This is a tricky question. To be "on MSN", as in, "Are you on > MSN?" is short in my world for, "Do you use MSN Messenger to chat > online with?". It's possible to use any email address to sign up > to this service, but most people use a Microsoft based one. > > MSN has something they call the MSN .Net passport. > > If you look at Google groups, you will find people with both > msn.net and msn.com email addresses. > > The there's the whole Hotmail thing. When you have a hotmail.com > free email address, when you log in to it, you do so via MSN. So > someone might mean @hotmail.com. > > So when someone asks me, "Are you on MSN?" the answer is, "Yes, > and I'll send you an email with my address in it." (this is > because everyone I chat with, I already have their email address) Wow, Steph, that is an in-depth report. Thanks. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:23:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFNTdi007893 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:23:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022837E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:23:16 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFNBk30990 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:23:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223152306.MBVK1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:23:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE85DDA.1070204@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:23:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Decorations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I took these pictures a week or so ago to show y'all my xmas decorations but didn't get around to squirting them from the camera until a few minutes ago: http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Xmas/ There's also a wreath on the front door. I didn't take its picture. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:26:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFQHdi007956 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:26:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B314@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:04 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFQ4k31434 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBNFQ30C001122 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:26:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE85E33.3000809@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:24:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Updates References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> <000601c3c968$9a21e440$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Rita: > > >>Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. >> > > Because? She'd lecture us all about Advent, which you have skipped, and thusly ect. and so-forth. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:26:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFQJdi007959 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:26:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B31D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:06 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFQ6k31445 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223152600.MDGV1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:26:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE85E88.5080104@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:26:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Updates References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. That was precisely my thought when I read Doris's posting. I like the sound of Doris's xmas. I'm thinking about removing my modest decorations today except that the rain is pouring, meaning that it's not a good day to carry stuff out to the storage building. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:27:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFRndi008032 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:27:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B30D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:27:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 232923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:27:36 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFRak31665 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:27:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223152731.MEFA1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE85EE2.3050004@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:27:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Updates References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> <000601c3c968$9a21e440$99cadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000601c3c968$9a21e440$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Rita: > >>Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. > > Because? She would launch into a detailed lecture about the dates to celebrate xmas. You didn't do it . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:31:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFVtdi008275 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:31:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B32C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:31:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 233063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:31:42 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFVgk32128 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:31:42 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNFVdRp004982 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:31:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3c96a$090eff40$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> <000601c3c968$9a21e440$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE85E33.3000809@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Christmas Updates Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:32:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. > > Because? - D. M. >She'd lecture us all about Advent, which you have skipped, and thusly ect. and so-forth. > Rita Rouvalis Chapman Ah, but she must know I am not very adventurous. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:44:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFiCdi008543 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002283EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:43:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 233812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:43:51 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFhpk01586 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:43:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B36F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312231543.hBNFhpk01586@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:43:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:56:22 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Lynne Weber wrote: > >>> So sad, and especially so at Xmas time. >> >> How awful! Sounds like she's in shock. The worst is >> when the shock wears off. > >I am reminded of a soupy Hallmark movie I watched not long ago (I love >soupy Hallmark movies) about a family who got word of their son's death >while they were decorating the xmas tree on xmas eve. They didn't >celebrate xmas at all for the next five years, but the movie was mainly >about the happy ending of their going back to having xmas, with the help >of their dead son, whose ghost came to help, and about how their >daughter had thought all those years that they didn't celebrate xmas >because they loved her brother better than they loved her. > >Re decorating trees so late -- how long do those of you who don't get >trees until right before xmas leave them up? We've talked about this >before, I think. I know we've talked about the belief some of us grew >up with that leaving a xmas tree up after midnight on Dec. 31 was bad >luck, but that's not what I'm talking about now. I'm thinking about how >I wouldn't want to go to all the trouble of decorating for such a short >period of time. In my childhood we always got the xmas tree the first >weekend in December. That way it can be enjoyed for several weeks. We >always took it down a day or two after xmas. > My family always put up the tree on my brother's birthday (Christmas Eve) and took it down after the 12 days of Christmas, in the evening on King's Day (Jan 6), which we also celebrated because my Dad's old army buddy came to dinner then, and brought presents. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:49:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFnRdi008684 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:49:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B390@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFnDk02545 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002283EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312231549.hBNFnDk02545@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: a transition year To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:43:34 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> but I did it by myself, as Chris is not really able to >> do anything except sleep (meds). But I am determined >> NOT to let things seem abnormal. Oh well, next year >> will soon be here. > >Is there something I missed? Why is your husband on so many meds? Yes, Lynn's husband has been sick since she came on the list. But she is so reticent, she never updates us or talks about her feelings. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:50:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFnxdi008694 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:50:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B3AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:46 -0500 Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFnkk02636 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:46 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQC00LORUMKSJ@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:45:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:45:15 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: The Red Cat To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <34d93f34e61a.34e61a34d93f@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU YaY! Absolutely. We'll see if they can handle us. I didn't call yesterday, but will call today. Party of eight. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Wild Date: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:42 pm Subject: Re: The Red Cat > > Terry? Clo? I'd like to make a reservation today. > > > > Marie > > > Sorry to be so late on this, can you add Alan and me in. Now I > have a date > and time I'll get to planning the trip. > > Thanks, > Terry > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:52:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFq8di008755 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:52:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B3B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:55 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFptk03021 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B3BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200312231551.hBNFptk03021@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Decorations To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:23:06 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I took these pictures a week or so ago to show y'all my xmas decorations >but didn't get around to squirting them from the camera until a few >minutes ago: > >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Xmas/ > >There's also a wreath on the front door. I didn't take its picture. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Very festive! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFrodi008780 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:53:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B3C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:53:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:53:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFrak03344 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:53:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00228437@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:53:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312231553.hBNFrak03344@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:53:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Christmas Updates To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:32:54 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >> >>Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. > >> > Because? > > - D. M. > > >>She'd lecture us all about Advent, which you have skipped, and thusly >ect. and so-forth. > >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > >Ah, but she must know I am not >very adventurous. > > - D. M. It seems that you have at least one streak that is advent-u-less! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 09:58:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNFwTdi008851 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:58:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B3D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:58:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:58:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNFwFk03928 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:58:15 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNFwE2f000843 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:58:14 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNFwDJC000829; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:58:14 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075030.00b7aec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:52:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all In-Reply-To: <3FE84B0D.5040206@maynor.net> References: <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:02 AM 12/23/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > >>And to all a good night. I'm turning off the computer, back on the >>29th. > >Uh oh. The list is going to dry up. I'll also be gone until the 29th. > (But I won't be going nomail until tomorrow night.) I'm not going to >bother to try to check e-mail from NYC because dealing with the spam is >so much trouble. I've got to explore spam-filters sometime soon. It's >become overwhelming. E-mail with a photo like you did one time. I forgot where in NY it was. We will expect to hear from you daily. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:00:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNG0vdi008886 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:00:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B3F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:00:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:00:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNG0hk04466 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:00:43 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBNG0dkF025605 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:00:39 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBNG0dES025603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:00:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:00:38 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <20031223160038.GA25587@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> <20031223151142.GA25435@yoccoz.multinix.com> <000b01c3c968$c85b1520$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c3c968$c85b1520$99cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland: = > Doris Markland: = > = Do people on msn have the address = > = msn.com or msn.net? = > = = > = - D. M. = > = > = > This is a tricky question. To be "on MSN", as in, "Are you on = > MSN?" is short in my world for, "Do you use MSN Messenger to chat = > online with?". It's possible to use any email address to sign up = > to this service, but most people use a Microsoft based one. = > = > MSN has something they call the MSN .Net passport. = > = > If you look at Google groups, you will find people with both = > msn.net and msn.com email addresses. = > = > The there's the whole Hotmail thing. When you have a hotmail.com = > free email address, when you log in to it, you do so via MSN. So = > someone might mean @hotmail.com. = > = > So when someone asks me, "Are you on MSN?" the answer is, "Yes, = > and I'll send you an email with my address in it." (this is = > because everyone I chat with, I already have their email address) = = Wow, Steph, that is an in-depth report. = Thanks. = = - D. M. Well, so after all that, did you find out what you were after? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:01:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNG1Jdi008897 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:01:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B3F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:01:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 234937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:01:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNG15k04528 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:01:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG142f004192 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:01:04 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG13JC004160; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:01:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075326.00b6ec48@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:55:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: a transition year In-Reply-To: References: <20031223040951.59968.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:43 AM 12/23/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >because the traditions I've been a part of all my life are no longer viable, >so I'm having to create new ones. > >--Adam Make new memories, Adam. Remember the old ones and celebrate. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:03:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNG3Kdi008916 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:03:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B403@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:03:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNG36k04729 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:03:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG2oW1031911 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:02:50 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG2nWq031887; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:02:49 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075626.00b73c78@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:57:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Christmas Updates In-Reply-To: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:00 AM 12/23/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >As various ones are reporting on their progress with Xmas, >I must report that my Xmas is over. Done. Past History. >We consumed mass quantities of dangerous food, drank >modest quantities of dangerous drink, exchanged presents, >dangled babies, played games with the growing kids around >the kitchen table, telephoned the ones who couldn't be here >to see if they had received our packages, stayed up late, >tried out the new cameras, tried on the new clothes, put >together the puttogetherables, and finally saw everyone off >and thanked God that once more we had lived through the >whole thing. > >I am working on New Year's resolutions and planning my >annual January exodus to Paradise. Great report! Did Gene behave himself? B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNG4Idi008925 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:04:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B3F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:04:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:04:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNG44k04913 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:04:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG42W1001490 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:04:02 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG41Wq001344 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:04:02 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075810.00b6e9b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:58:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Christmas Updates In-Reply-To: <3FE85E33.3000809@swbell.net> References: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> <3FE8589B.4030308@swbell.net> <000601c3c968$9a21e440$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:24 AM 12/23/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > >>Rita: >> >> >>>Good thing Bethany is off with her monks. >> >>Because? > > > She'd lecture us all about Advent, which you have skipped, >and thusly ect. and so-forth. And it's not over yet. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:06:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNG6Wdi009003 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:06:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B41B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:06:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:06:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNG6Dk05118 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:06:13 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG6BW1005492 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:06:11 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNG69Wq005429 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:06:10 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223080013.00b79c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:00:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Decorations In-Reply-To: <3FE85DDA.1070204@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:23 AM 12/23/2003 -0600, you wrote: >I took these pictures a week or so ago to show y'all my xmas decorations >but didn't get around to squirting them from the camera until a few >minutes ago: > >http://www.maynor.net/Temp/Xmas/ > >There's also a wreath on the front door. I didn't take its picture. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I love your mantel! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:16:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGGOdi009214 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:16:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B440@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:16:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 235809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:16:10 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGGAk06510 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:16:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223161605.EDOC20519.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE86A45.3000108@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:16:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all References: <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> <05199268.20031223030720@WordWrite.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075030.00b7aec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075030.00b7aec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > E-mail with a photo like you did one time. I forgot where in NY it was. We > will expect to hear from you daily. That was a free computer in a tourist office near Times Square. I'm trying to remember now whether that office is still there. I have it stuck in my head that the last time I was in NYC I found that it had moved. I remember walking around in cold rain looking for it and reading on the side of a building about the fire at St. John's, which I had visited just the day before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGKkdi009268 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:20:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B474@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:20:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:20:33 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (mail.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGKWk07418 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:20:32 -0500 Received: by mail.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:23:08 +0100 Received: from ESPENO-PRECISION.nb.no (pc39-120-32.nb.no [158.39.120.32]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id ZFCQX77R; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:23:06 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes X-URL: www.espenore.tk Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20031223171923.0282ded0@localhost> X-Sender: espeno/victoria.nb.no@localhost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:20:25 +0100 Subject: Re: a transition year In-Reply-To: <3FE7B3B9.2030102@swbell.net> References: <3FE7B3B9.2030102@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:17 22.12.2003 -0600 skrev Rita Chapman: >I put up the tree this morning (a $15 balsam pine from the We have decorated the tree - my son is here with one of the twins who has a great time, being a single child with three grown ups to take care of him! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:21:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGLEdi009276 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:21:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B47D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:21:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:21:01 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGL0k07520 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:21:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223162055.EFJS20519.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:20:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE86B67.9080201@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:20:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Decorations References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223080013.00b79c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223080013.00b79c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > I love your mantel! Thank you. I like those little elves. I found them at a crafts fair somewhere like Huntsville a few years ago, I think. I remember that they required some minor surgery of some kind but don't remember what exactly -- nothing major since it was something I was able to accomplish. My mantel looks better when I put holly on it, which I didn't do this year. I'm happy to report, however, that holly from my yard adorned Meals-on-Wheels plates yesterday(?). A nice old man called me last night to find out info on the memorial service he had missed yesterday. Somebody had told him I'd gone. He thanked me first for the holly I gave him and told me he had used it all over his house and then put pieces of it on his Meals-on-Wheels deliveries. It was after the ARF banquet when we were dismantling things like Santa Claus's arch, and I said I wished somebody would take the holly and make use of it -- that I was not going to take it home -- that I had tons more growing. So this nice old man and his daughter, who had driven him to the banquet, took it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGOpdi009304 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:24:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B496@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:24:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:24:37 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBNGObk08069 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:24:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 8939 invoked from network); 23 Dec 2003 16:24:35 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-20.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 23 Dec 2003 16:24:35 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74857B9B for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:24:35 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-20.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1072196675!540128 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: a transition year Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:24:35 -0500 Message-ID: <007d01c3c971$41362220$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200312231549.hBNFnDk02545@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carolyn Ostrander >Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:49 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: a transition year > > >On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:43:34 -0500, Adam Hartfield > wrote: > >>> but I did it by myself, as Chris is not really able to >>> do anything except sleep (meds). But I am determined >>> NOT to let things seem abnormal. Oh well, next year >>> will soon be here. >> >>Is there something I missed? Why is your husband on so many meds? > >Yes, Lynn's husband has been sick since she came on the list. But she >is so, she never updates us or talks about her feelings. > >clo > Ouch! Not everyone loves to share everything. Let her have her privacy. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:31:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGVMdi009447 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:31:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B4AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:31:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 236743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:31:08 -0500 Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGV8k08944 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:31:08 -0500 Received: from optonline.net (mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.13]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HQC00M62WJZ7K@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [167.206.5.76] by mstr2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mshttpd); Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:26:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:26:37 -0500 From: 14lodge@optonline.net Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: <335abc335518.335518335abc@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Espen Ore > 21:17 22.12.2003 -0600 skrev Rita Chapman: > >I put up the tree this morning (a $15 balsam pine from the > > We have decorated the tree - my son is here with one of the twins > who has a great time, being a single child with three grown ups to > take care of him! Our tree's been up and decorated since last Sunday, but sparsely so, and nothing breakable because of the little red monster. So far so good...it's still standing anyway... Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:45:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGjRdi009713 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:45:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B50A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:45:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:45:13 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGjDk11752 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:45:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNGjBRp017925 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:45:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001901c3c974$4e321440$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> <20031223151142.GA25435@yoccoz.multinix.com> <000b01c3c968$c85b1520$99cadece@0018079268> <20031223160038.GA25587@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Help Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:46:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > = > = Wow, Steph, that is an in-depth report. > = Thanks. > = > = - D. M. > > Well, so after all that, did you find out what you were after? > Yes. I sent an email to a person at msn.com . . . . . . . .and it never came back so I assume it was correct. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:47:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGl0di009723 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:47:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B50F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:46:47 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGkkk11988 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:46:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNGkiRp021076 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:46:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002001c3c974$85979900$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075626.00b73c78@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Christmas Updates Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:47:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >and thanked God that once more we had lived through the > >whole thing. > > > >I am working on New Year's resolutions and planning my > >annual January exodus to Paradise. > > Great report! Did Gene behave himself? > > B > Yes. Well, almost. It's back to the heart diet immediately! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 10:48:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNGmUdi009770 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:48:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B527@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:48:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 237854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:48:17 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNGmCk12210 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:48:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNGmARp023825 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:48:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002701c3c974$b915aa60$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223080013.00b79c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Decorations Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:49:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I love your mantel! > > Betty Well, it takes all kinds. Some people love other people, or even dogs or parakeets. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 11:01:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNH15di010051 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:01:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8B570@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:00:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 238468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:00:42 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f113.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.113]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNH0fk14246 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:00:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:00:32 -0800 Received: from 149.160.24.172 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:00:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [149.160.24.172] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fussell Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:00:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2003 17:00:32.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[466B8000:01C3C976] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul Fussell was on NPR's talk show, The Connection, today, talking about his recent book, reviewed below. He said that his intent was to correct the sentimental mythologizing of Stephen Ambrose and Tom Brokaw. My guess is this wouldn't be a good stocking stuffer for the WWII veterans in the family...... >From: LexisNexis(TM) Print Delivery >To: meeberphobia@hotmail.com >Subject: LexisNexis(TM) Email Request (1862:0:26160278) >Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:46:32 -0500 (EST) > > 108Q6F > > >Print Request: Selected Document(s): 18 > >Time of Request: December 23, 2003 11:46 AM EST >Number of Lines: 101 >Job Number: 1862:0:26160278 >Client ID/Project Name: > >Research Information: > > >Note: > > > > 18 of 84 DOCUMENTS > > Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company > The New York Times > > October 12, 2003, Sunday, Late Edition - Final > >SECTION: Section 7; Page 16; Column 1; Book Review Desk > >LENGTH: 1499 words > >HEADLINE: Band of Children > >BYLINE: By Alan Riding; Alan Riding is the European cultural >correspondent of >The Times, based in Paris. > >BODY: > > THE BOYS' CRUSADE > The American Infantry > in Northwestern Europe, 1944-1945. > By Paul Fussell. > 184 pp. New York: > A Modern Library Chronicles Book/ > The Modern Library. $19.95. > > OK, JOE > By Louis Guilloux. > Translated by Alice Kaplan. > 121 pp. Chicago: > The University of Chicago Press. $22.50. > > FOR the purposes of memory, evocations of personal courage and moral >purpose >can do wonders to soften the horrors of war. Even as combat survivors of >World >War II pass away, movies like "Saving Private Ryan" and television films >like >"Band of Brothers" continue to make the sacrifice of legions of brave young >men >seem worthwhile. Indeed, who can deny their valiant role in preserving and >restoring freedom for hundreds of millions of people? > > But beyond the headlines of history, there are always untold stories. >And >beyond the orders of generals, there are always the whispers of soldiers. A >war >lived on the ground, two new books remind us, is uglier than a war >repackaged >for history. Paul Fussell presents the infantryman's point of view in "The >Boys' >Crusade: The American Infantry in Northwestern Europe, 1944-1945." Louis >Guilloux's autobiographical novel, "OK, Joe," reflects a Frenchman's fond >but >troubling experience of the American army that came to liberate him. > > Fussell, a war veteran and an award-winning war historian, announces his >purpose in the preface. "Now, almost 60 years after the horror, there has >been a >return, especially in popular culture, to military romanticism, which, if >not >implying that war is really good for you, does suggest that it contains >desirable elements -- pride, companionship, and the consciousness of virtue >enforced by deadly weapons. In this book I have occasionally tried to >confront >this view with realistic details." > > To "men-children" in their late teens thrust into the conflict, these >were >often the details that counted: bad planning, inadequate training, poor >weapons, >uninspiring superiors, desertions, self-inflicted wounds and ever-present >fear. >Fussell also describes the Allies' advance into Germany, but, tapping >published >and unpublished memoirs as well as his own experience, he keeps his focus >on the >ill-fated G.I.'s. Of the millions of American servicemen sent to Europe, >only 14 >percent were infantrymen, but they suffered 70 percent of the casualties. > > For the majority who had never before left the United States, their >first >experience was culture shock. During months of training in Britain, they >found >that they were resented as "overpaid, oversexed and over here" -- to which >they >cruelly retorted that British troops were "underpaid, undersexed and under >Eisenhower." Many Britons were in turn disturbed by the United States >Army's >racial segregation and thought black G.I.'s better mannered than the white >soldiers. As one local wit put it, "I don't mind the Yanks but I can't say >I >care for those white chaps they've brought with them." > > Still, when Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, the supreme allied commander, >sent >them off on the "Great Crusade," these latter-day crusaders were >optimistic, >believing that the war would soon be won. From the moment of the Normandy >landings, things proved far messier. Barely out of high school, most G.I.'s >knew >little about France beyond wine and women, and relations with the liberated >soon >deteriorated. "This goddamn Europe," Fussell quotes one G.I. as saying. "A >thousand years of unending quarrels behind them, and they are still >fighting." > > As this short, riveting book turns to the war itself, it allows for >heroism, >but dwells more on what went wrong. As early as July 25, 1944, for >instance, >with Allied troops trapped in Normandy, American bombers killed 111 G.I.'s >and >wounded almost 500 more. Then some 40,000 of 100,000 Germans escaped the >Falaise >Pocket in northern Normandy, although the accompanying battle was savage. >"It >was literally possible to walk for hundreds of yards, stepping on nothing >but >dead and decaying flesh," a shocked Eisenhower remarked. > > Fussell tells of one unit where platoon and company commanders detested >each >other. This proved fatal when the platoon was ordered to attack a German >position. Quoting memoirs, Fussell writes: " 'There was no discussion of >tactics,' nor of the folly of an unsupported frontal attack on an unstudied >position. 'There were barely any orders. There wasn't time.' The diamond >haltingly moved forward, the boys 'half blind with fear.' " German machine >guns >mowed down the unit, killing almost 40 G.I.'s. > > Even more disastrous was the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November >1944, >where 120,000 Americans fought and 33,000 were killed or wounded or went >mad. >Shattered morale brought "unmanly" behavior, Fussell writes: "Unordered >flight >and even rout; flagrant disobedience; bursting into tears; faking illness; >and >self-inflicted wounds." By war's end, American desertions numbered some >19,000. > > Unreadiness for battle was most apparent among troop replacements, many >of >them bright young things who had hoped to spend the war in the safety of >the >Army Specialized Training Program, studying engineering and the like. "In >their >infantry companies, they were buddyless and shunned as almost dangerous >strangers," Fussell recalls. "These embittered replacements were a most >pitiable >group, lonely, despised and untrained, deeply shocked by the unexpected >brutalities of the front line and often virtually useless." Many were >killed in >their first battle. > > Finally, after the dreadful 1944 winter, when 45,000 American combat >troops >suffered trench foot, and the Battle of the Bulge, where a German >counteroffensive resulted in 19,000 Americans killed, an Allied victory >seemed >certain. "The boys displayed more signs of combat caution than earlier and >became harder to lead into hazardous action -- by commanders who actually >felt >the same as the troops," Fussell writes. > > In fact, it was only when the troops discovered Nazi slave camps and >later >the death camps that many understood the significance of their mission. >Suddenly >the end justified the means and the misery. "Hardly any boy infantryman >started >his career as a moralist, but after the camps, a moral attitude was >rampant," >Fussell notes. One American major put it most succinctly: "Now I know why I >am >here." > > Louis Guilloux's short novel "OK, Joe," first published in France in >1976, >speaks of a different culture shock, that of a middle-aged French writer's >experience of the United States Army in a Breton town in August 1944. >According >to Alice Kaplan's introduction, Guilloux, a prize-winning essayist and >novelist >who died in 1980, based his story on a journal he kept at the time. In the >book, >the bilingual narrator, also named Louis, agrees to interpret for French >witnesses testifying in courts-martial of American troops. But he swiftly >discovers a disturbing facet of American society. > > On his first outing with two officers and Joe, the driver, Louis >interviews >the family of a man killed by a black G.I. Returning to the American base, >he >spots an enclosure crowded with black men. "Say, Joe, is this a special >prison >for colored men?" he asks. "No," he is told. "It's the prison." At the >following >day's court-martial, Louis observes that the defendant is "the only black >man in >this assembly of whites." > > The same scene is repeated on subsequent days: a black man accused of >rape or >murder, a conviction and a sentence of jail or death. "But why always >blacks, >Bob?" Louis asks Lt. Robert Stone, the prosecutor. "Ah! That's a hell of a >problem!" Stone replies. Louis insists: "I know, Bob. Apparently you have >to be >an American to understand it. But why only blacks? It isn't a special >tribunal >for blacks?" > > Kaplan, who has ably translated this book, provides grim statistics >supporting Guilloux's observation. In her introduction, she notes that of >70 men >executed following courts-martial in World War II, 55 were >African-Americans. >"Despite the great moral striving and idealism of the American soldiers, >theirs >is a universe where justice is skewed by racial prejudice," she writes. > > Louis's own suspicion of this reality is confirmed when a white Ranger >is >accused of killing a French Resistance fighter. Suddenly, Louis is replaced >as >court interpreter by two American intelligence agents. And despite evidence >of >the defendant's guilt, he is acquitted. Louis later sees the ranger >entering the >mess hall, "grinning from ear to ear," accompanied by the officer who >presided >over the court-martial. > > Yet what makes Guilloux's book so chilling is the narrator's affection >for >the American officers with whom he works, eats and shares a bedroom. War >has >brought them together, but a cultural gap remains. "And how many political >parties do you have in France?" Bill, one of Louis's new friends, asks him. >"We >only have two. Because we are a true democracy." A no less puzzled Louis >asks in >turn, "Tell me, Bill, why are they only trying black men here?" > > > http://www.nytimes.com > >GRAPHIC: Photo: American soldiers somewhere in France, 1945. > >LOAD-DATE: October 12, 2003 > > _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 12:24:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNIOWdi011964 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:24:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8B715@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:24:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 242446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:24:17 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNIOGI23883 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:24:17 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBNIOFkF025869 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:24:15 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBNIOEaW025867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:24:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:24:14 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <20031223182414.GB25766@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000d01c3c959$dfa65c80$99cadece@0018079268> <20031223151142.GA25435@yoccoz.multinix.com> <000b01c3c968$c85b1520$99cadece@0018079268> <20031223160038.GA25587@yoccoz.multinix.com> <001901c3c974$4e321440$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001901c3c974$4e321440$99cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > Well, so after all that, did you find out what you were after? = > = = Yes. I sent an email to a person at = msn.com . . . . . . . .and it never came = back so I assume it was correct. = = - D. M. I was going to say that you cannot always be sure about that. In this case, though, I tested it. I sent mail to doris_markland@msn.com and it did bounce. So at worst, you've confused someone :-) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 12:42:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNIgtdi012285 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:42:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8B76C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:42:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 243391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:42:40 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNIgeI25912 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:42:40 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-99.gwi.net [216.195.152.99]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBNIgW59065620; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:42:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223131741.00b40978@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:18:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Fussell In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:00 PM 12/23/2003 -0500, Marty Rosen wrote: >Paul Fussell was on NPR's talk show, The Connection, today, talking about >his recent book, reviewed below. He said that his intent was to correct the >sentimental mythologizing of Stephen Ambrose... High time. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 13:41:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNJfVdi013681 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:41:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.002289B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:41:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 246070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:41:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNJfGS31890 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:41:16 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNJf02f027210 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:41:00 -0800 Received: from B4NM411.uclink.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBNJexJC027176 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:41:00 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223113336.00b9fc48@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:35:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Mrs. Miller In-Reply-To: <002701c3c974$b915aa60$99cadece@0018079268> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223080013.00b79c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thinking of you, Adam. I won this CD called "Camp Classics!!" Mrs. Miller is featured four times. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 15:56:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNLuhdi017160 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:56:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8BACB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:56:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 251915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:56:28 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNLuRS14794 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:56:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBNLuORp017137 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:56:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c3c99f$c8059d20$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Xmas Card for Wordslers Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:57:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBNLuhdi017160 Just for the week of Christmas - Mon 12/22 This website has music!! Use Full Screen for a "better look" Here is one of Jacquie Lawson's cards .... Like the others, it takes time to load but is well worth it. http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=0279309843 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 16:11:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNMBgdi017440 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:11:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8BBA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:11:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 253492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:11:26 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNMBQS16509 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:11:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223221121.JGVZ20306.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:11:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE8BD89.3000107@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:11:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers References: <000a01c3c99f$c8059d20$99cadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <000a01c3c99f$c8059d20$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=0279309843 Spencer loved it! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 16:51:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNMpfdi018431 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:51:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00228D86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 254897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:51:25 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNMfPS19631 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:41:25 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu ([67.33.225.244]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031223224119.JDMY20519.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ra.msstate.edu> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:41:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE8C48F.8070301@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:41:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: What A Great Dog! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Look at Smiling Joe: http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/images/adoption/SimilingJoe.jpg Details about him are here: http://www.msstate.edu/org/humane/adoption.html What's a DSH cat, btw? I notice there are several with that description. -- -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 17:13:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBNNDZdi019093 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:13:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8BCDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:13:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 256360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:13:19 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBNNDIS22585 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:13:19 -0500 Received: from bertha.istori.com (c-24-5-188-31.client.comcast.net[24.5.188.31]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003122323131101100kldkbe>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:13:12 +0000 Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223150906.0461bb90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: mail.istori.com:kaminski@192.168.1.99 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:15:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: What A Great Dog! In-Reply-To: <3FE8C48F.8070301@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >What's a DSH cat, btw? Domestic Short Hair. Cf. Domestic Medium Hair, Domestic Long Hair. "Domestic" opposes "non-domestic" (feral or wild types of cats). Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 18:53:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO0rAdi021218 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:53:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8BEEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:52:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 260671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:52:53 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO0qqS03011 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:52:52 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-99.gwi.net [216.195.152.99]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBO0qn59017927; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:52:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223194902.00b11360@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:52:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: What A Great Dog! In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223150906.0461bb90@mail.istori.com> References: <3FE8C48F.8070301@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:15 PM 12/23/2003 -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Natalie Maynor writes, > >>What's a DSH cat, btw? > >Domestic Short Hair. Cf. Domestic Medium Hair, Domestic Long Hair. > >"Domestic" opposes "non-domestic" (feral or wild types of cats). It also differentiates the non-pedigreed or mixed breed cats from the Siamese, Burmese, Manx, Maine Coon, Norwegian Forest, etc, etc. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 19:42:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO1ghdi022217 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:42:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8BF6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 261916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:42:26 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO1gPS06219 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:42:26 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031224014219013006ljdme> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Dec 2003 01:42:20 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Mrs. Miller Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:42:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223113336.00b9fc48@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Thinking of you, Adam. I won this CD called "Camp Classics!!" Mrs. > Miller is featured four times. > > Betty Yay! Which songs? Maybe some I don't have! Right now I'm listening to a CD of new easy-listening music by Perry La Marca (see cdbaby.com) and after it, Gandalf Murhpy & The Slambovian Circus of Dreams' new double album, "Flapjacks From The Sky". --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:03:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO23Zdi022580 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:03:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8BF9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:03:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:03:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO23HS07362 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:03:17 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBO23FeO001135 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:03:16 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBO22xa2001018; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:03:05 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031223180423.00b7ae90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:05:41 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Mrs. Miller In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223113336.00b9fc48@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:42 PM 12/23/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Thinking of you, Adam. I won this CD called "Camp Classics!!" Mrs. > > Miller is featured four times. > > > > Betty > >Yay! Which songs? Maybe some I don't have! > >Right now I'm listening to a CD of new easy-listening music by Perry La >Marca (see cdbaby.com) and after it, Gandalf Murhpy & The Slambovian Circus >of Dreams' new double album, "Flapjacks From The Sky". Green Tambourine, Downtown, A Groovy Kind of Love, and A Lovers Concerto. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:09:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO29Mdi022698 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:09:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8BFAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:09:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:09:04 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO294S07768 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:09:04 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031224020853013006ljeie> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:08:53 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: a transition year Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20031223075326.00b6ec48@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Make new memories, Adam. Remember the old ones and celebrate. > > B That's my goal. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:09:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO29rdi022711 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:09:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8BF9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:09:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:09:35 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85] (may be forged)) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO29ZS07824 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:09:35 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031224020833014000hqroe> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:08:33 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Mrs. Miller Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:08:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031223180423.00b7ae90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Green Tambourine, Downtown, A Groovy Kind of Love, and A Lovers Concerto. > > Betty I don't have the first one, but I think I have the latter three. Does she go into overdubbed falsetto on the last one? ::shudder:: --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:23:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2Nidi023021 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:23:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8BFDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:23:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 262851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:23:26 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO2NQS08744 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:23:26 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:23:21 PST Message-ID: <20031224022321.25291.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:23:21 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <1167003264.20031222231700@WordWrite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Karen Kay wrote: > > Just very restless, wandering around the house > looking at everything > suspiciously. I did discover earlier today that she > peed on my travel > purse, but luckily that is washable (and machine > dryable). She knows you're going somewhere and resents ir. > > > Who is Ligniere? > > Good question! Good. I like mystery guests, > > Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:32:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2WLdi023194 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:32:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8BFFD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:32:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:32:04 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO2W3S09492 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:32:03 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:31:58 PST Message-ID: <20031224023158.89197.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE84986.6040009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Re decorating trees so late -- how long do those of > you who don't get > trees until right before xmas leave them up? We've > talked about this > before, I think. I know we've talked about the > belief some of us grew > up with that leaving a xmas tree up after midnight > on Dec. 31 was bad > luck, but that's not what I'm talking about now. > I'm thinking about how > I wouldn't want to go to all the trouble of > decorating for such a short > period of time. In my childhood we always got the > xmas tree the first > weekend in December. That way it can be enjoyed for > several weeks. We > always took it down a day or two after xmas. When we were very young, we believed that Santa brought the decorated Christmas tree as well as the gifts on Christmas Eve. The tree stayed up until New Year's Day. I have finally caved in to Southern custom, and decoration begins about 2 weeks before Christmas. But the tree still comes down on New Year's Day. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:39:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2dEdi023389 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:39:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8BFEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:38:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:38:56 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO2ctS09853 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:38:55 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:38:50 PST Message-ID: <20031224023850.70435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:38:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > > but I did it by myself, as Chris is not really > able to > > do anything except sleep (meds). But I am > determined > > NOT to let things seem abnormal. Oh well, next > year > > will soon be here. > > Is there something I missed? Why is your husband on > so many meds? Back in Feb, he was diagnosed as having inoperable cancer of the neck tissue. He's been undergoing palliative chemo ever since, and the latest treatment has proven the most effective, but they decided to suspend it for the month of December, and he almost immediately went down hill. They have now reinstated treatment. He has to take so many meds, that at times, he doesn't know where he is or what he has said. As far as my talking to him, he has never paid much attention, so that's not new:-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:39:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2dRdi023411 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:39:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C007@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO2d9S09897 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:39:09 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBO2d8W1025089 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:39:08 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBO2d7Wq025065; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:39:07 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031223184122.00b862f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:41:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Mrs. Miller In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20031223180423.00b7ae90@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:08 PM 12/23/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Green Tambourine, Downtown, A Groovy Kind of Love, and A Lovers Concerto. > > > > Betty > >I don't have the first one, but I think I have the latter three. Does she go >into overdubbed falsetto on the last one? > >::shudder:: Doesn't she on all of them? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:40:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2eXdi023423 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:40:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C000@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:40:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:40:15 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO2eFS09959 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:40:15 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:40:09 PST Message-ID: <20031224024009.11894.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: off until Monday To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Paul Barfoot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. I'm off > until Monday to spend time with the kids who have > all come home from their assorted scattered > locations. > > :-) Merry gathering! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:42:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2gYdi023442 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:42:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C006@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:42:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:42:16 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO2gGS10072 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:42:16 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:42:11 PST Message-ID: <20031224024211.71186.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas Updates To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000c01c3c965$742ea640$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > I am working on New Year's resolutions and planning > my > annual January exodus to Paradise. This was by far the best way to celebrate. When you arrive in Paradise, please check out the non-beeping trucks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:43:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2hedi023450 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:43:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C014@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:23 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO2hMS10157 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20031224024316013006ljfje> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:43:17 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: a transition year Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20031224023850.70435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for sharing the story, Lynne. I wish nothing but the best for Chris. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:44:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2iCdi023458 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C010@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:54 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO2hrS10189 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:54 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20031224024348014000hqrte> (Authid: adamh1); Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:43:48 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Mrs. Miller Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031223184122.00b862f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Does she go > >into overdubbed falsetto on the last one? > > > >::shudder:: > > Doesn't she on all of them? Not on my Ultra-Lounge disc, she doesn't. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 20:55:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO2tadi023789 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:55:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00229100@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:55:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:55:18 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO2tHS10935 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:55:17 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:55:12 PST Message-ID: <20031224025512.73761.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Adam Hartfield wrote: > Thanks for sharing the story, Lynne. I wish nothing > but the best for Chris. > > --Adam Thank you. It means a lot. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 21:02:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO32gdi023956 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:02:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C04F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:02:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 263936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:02:24 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO32NS11648 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:02:23 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBO32KRp024361 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:02:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002d01c3c9ca$84638fc0$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031224025512.73761.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: a transition year Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:03:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Thanks for sharing the story, Lynne. I wish nothing > > but the best for Chris. > > > > --Adam > Me too, Lynne. I think it's great you keep your life going with some normalcy despite the difficult circumstances. I'm glad you found words-list. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 21:11:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO3B3di024158 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:11:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C065@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:10:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:10:45 -0500 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO3AjS12311 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:10:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224031039.LPHC8082.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE903AF.2060903@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:10:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok References: <20031224023158.89197.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031224023158.89197.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > But the tree still comes down on New > Year's Day. Bad luck! My house is now undecorated, btw, except for the wreath on the door. (It's ok to leave a wreath up through New Year's -- just not a tree.) When the rain stopped this afternoon, I gathered the stuff up and put it back in the storage building -- after washing the kitchen towel. Unrelated to that, I just watched Larry King re the Kennedy assasination and started wondering again why it was stuck in my head that Jack Ruby was at Parkland Hospital when my RRB was interning there. So I just googled and found out why. Ruby died there of cancer -- went to Parkland to die after having been in jail for several years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 21:38:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO3cCdi024885 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:38:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C0AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:37:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:37:15 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO3bFS14040 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:37:15 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:37:09 PST Message-ID: <20031224033709.17379.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:37:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <002d01c3c9ca$84638fc0$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Me too, Lynne. > > I think it's great you keep your life going > with some normalcy despite the difficult > circumstances. I'm glad you > found words-list. So I am - most of the time :-] This computer opened a whole new world to me, I think I would have been lost without it. And I am always learning something from Wordslers, and learning is most important to me. Thanks to all of you. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 21:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO3eAdi024900 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:40:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002291EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 264841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:39:52 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO3dpS14153 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:39:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:39:46 PST Message-ID: <20031224033946.24695.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:39:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE903AF.2060903@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Unrelated to that, I just watched Larry King re the > Kennedy assasination > and started wondering again why it was stuck in my > head that Jack Ruby > was at Parkland Hospital when my RRB was interning > there. So I just > googled and found out why. Ruby died there of > cancer -- went to > Parkland to die after having been in jail for > several years. Fitting, eh what? I knew he died of cancer, but couldn't remember if he was in prison at the time. Come to think of it, I don't even remember a trial. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 21:48:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO3mmdi025065 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:48:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C0D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:48:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:48:30 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO3mUS14954 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:48:30 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:48:24 PST Message-ID: <20031224034824.26583.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:48:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Xmas To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris I just took the time to go back and look at the Chudleigh card. It's delightful! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 21:51:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO3pldi025128 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:51:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C0E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:51:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 265455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:51:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO3pTS15198 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:51:29 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBO3pR2f005975 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:51:28 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBO3pQJC005698; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:51:27 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031223195313.00a46590@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:54:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: a transition year In-Reply-To: <20031224033709.17379.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <002d01c3c9ca$84638fc0$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:37 PM 12/23/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Doris Markland wrote: > > Me too, Lynne. > > > > I think it's great you keep your life going > > with some normalcy despite the difficult > > circumstances. I'm glad you > > found words-list. > > >So I am - most of the time :-] This computer opened a >whole new world to me, I think I would have been lost >without it. And I am always learning something from >Wordslers, and learning is most important to me. >Thanks to all of you. You are a Wordsler. Now you must define it. Glad you found us, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 22:13:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO4D3di025800 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:13:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C332@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:12:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:12:45 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBO4CiS18574 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:12:44 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBO4ChkF026952 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:12:43 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBO4CgGs026950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:12:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:12:42 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What A Great Dog! Message-ID: <20031224041242.GA26917@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FE8C48F.8070301@ra.msstate.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031223150906.0461bb90@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223150906.0461bb90@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski: = Natalie Maynor writes, = = >What's a DSH cat, btw? = = Domestic Short Hair. Cf. Domestic Medium Hair, Domestic Long Hair. = = "Domestic" opposes "non-domestic" (feral or wild types of cats). = = Pete On the pet adoption web site here they're "European Short Hair". They sure look like the same cats to me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Dec 23 22:44:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBO4iNdi026485 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 22:44:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8C36F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:44:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 270991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:44:05 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBO4i5S21357 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:44:05 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:43:59 PST Message-ID: <20031224044359.37806.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:43:59 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: What A Great Dog! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031224041242.GA26917@yoccoz.multinix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- steph wrote: > = "Domestic" opposes "non-domestic" (feral or wild > types of cats). > = > = Pete > > On the pet adoption web site here they're "European > Short Hair". > They sure look like the same cats to me. Yes, but they "meow" with various accents. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 07:03:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOD3pdi005407 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:03:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C87E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:03:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOD3TS08947 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:29 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-184.gwi.net [216.195.151.184]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOD3Q57070011 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080245.00b2ffa0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: a transition year In-Reply-To: <20031224023850.70435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Back in Feb, he was diagnosed as having inoperable >cancer of the neck tissue. He's been undergoing >palliative chemo ever since, and the latest treatment >has proven the most effective, but they decided to >suspend it for the month of December, and he almost >immediately went down hill. They have now reinstated >treatment. He has to take so many meds, that at >times, he doesn't know where he is or what he has >said. As far as my talking to him, he has never paid >much attention, so that's not new:-] This sounds like a horrible life for both of you. Are there at least times when he is comfortable and aware? Times that make all the suffering worth it for you or for him? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 07:05:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOD5Jdi005422 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:05:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C880@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:04:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:04:57 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOD4vS09055 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:04:57 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-151-184.gwi.net [216.195.151.184]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOD4tGn061421 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:04:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:05:18 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Inhaler question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have any of you ever used an inhaler? There seems to be something I'm not getting about this. I try to follow the directions but all I seem to do is spray a little mist onto the top of my mouth or onto my tongue. Isn't it supposed to get to my throat? I really don't see how this can do much good. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 07:15:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBODFSdi005690 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:15:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8C87F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:15:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 282483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:15:06 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBODF2S09837 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:15:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00229922@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241315.hBODF2S09837@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:15:02 -0500 From: Kristin Sarv Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Kristin Sarv Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=0279309843 Like Chudleigh, I say, Thank you! Merry Christmas to everyone! Kristin (reading messages in the archives now and then) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 07:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBODdVdi006035 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:39:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C8E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:39:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:39:09 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBODd9S12017 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:39:09 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:39:03 PST Message-ID: <20031224133903.80134.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080245.00b2ffa0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > This sounds like a horrible life for both of you. > Are there at least times > when he is comfortable and aware? Times that make > all the suffering worth > it for you or for him? This question plus Betty's stipulation regarding a definition of a Wordsler will take some time and thought. I'm now if to an event that will last about 4 hours. Fortunately, I do not have anything else to think about at this event, so maybe I'll get to some answers this afternoon. I have found a recipe for hazelnut pie crust, and I'm, going to TRY the butterscotch pie you loved so much. Chris adores butterscotch. If he can eat peach cobbler a la mode, he can eat butterscotch pie. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 07:41:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBODf3di006046 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:41:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C8E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:40:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 283294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:40:40 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBODeeS12178 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:40:40 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:40:35 PST Message-ID: <20031224134035.1520.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:40:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312241315.hBODF2S09837@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Kristin Sarv wrote: > Merry Christmas to everyone! > > Kristin (reading messages in the archives now and then) Kristin, come back soon! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 07:58:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBODwbdi006363 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:58:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002299A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:58:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:58:14 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBODwES14663 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:58:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.197]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224135809.ETPA1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:58:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE99B71.9030208@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:58:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Have any of you ever used an inhaler? There seems to be something I'm not > getting about this. I try to follow the directions but all I seem to do is > spray a little mist onto the top of my mouth or onto my tongue. Isn't it > supposed to get to my throat? I really don't see how this can do much > good. Bad timing! Karen is absent. And has clo left for SC? They would have answers for you. I take it that your cold is still doing bad things. So are my ears, I might add. I am so very, very tired of being . I want my old life back. This is not a holiday season that I will remember with pleasure. I'm ready for New Year's to get here. I want to eat black-eyed peas and feel optimistic for future life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:03:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOE3udi006493 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002299C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:03:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:03:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOE3YS15109 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:03:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.002299EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:03:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241403.hBOE3YS15109@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:03:34 -0500 From: Kristin Sarv Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Kristin Sarv Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >> Merry Christmas to everyone! >> >> Kristin (reading messages in the archives now and >then) > >Kristin, come back soon! > Oh, dear! Thank you for this! Meanwhile I read your message about your husband's disease, and this reminded me about my classmate whom I met once again after 26 years this October when we had a school reunion. She had nursed her husband, with his lower body paralysed, for several years and lost him then. He was able to talk but so depressed at last that he actually didn't. A sad story, and a tough woman, and full of love towards her late husband. I am sorry for your both's difficult times and wish the best to you. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:06:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOE6Qdi006540 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:06:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C92F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 8:54:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:54:26 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBODsQS14414 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:54:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.197]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224135420.ESOT1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE99A8D.3070009@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 07:54:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok References: <20031224033946.24695.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031224033946.24695.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Fitting, eh what? I knew he died of cancer, but > couldn't remember if he was in prison at the time. > Come to think of it, I don't even remember a trial. In the googling last night to find out what became of him, I saw something about how they had just decided to have a second trial for him -- right before discovering his illness. And there were accusations that people had poisoned him -- had "put the cancer into him." I didn't pay much attention to it last night since I was mainly trying to remember what had happened to him and why I had it stuck in my head that he had been in Parkland when my RRB was there. That I found. One of the first hits when I googled for '"jack ruby" died' said that he "died in prison." But several right after that mentioned that he had died in Parkland. The "died in prison" wording was misleading, though true in a sort of way since he was in fact a "prisoner" when he died in Parkland. I remember reading the Garrison book back whenever it came out -- the book about oddities and possible conspiracies -- and finding it fascinating. One reason I watched the LK thing last night was that some of my memories of the event were fading -- not the where I was, who told me, etc., but some of the "official" details. I was in a tv-watching mood last night and was hoping for another soupy Hallmark xmas movie -- or better yet "Miracle on 32nd St," to get me in a NYC mood. But I couldn't find anything like that. So I watched the biography of Jimmy Stewart and then LKLive. I meant to say last night that "It's a Wonderful Life" wasn't quite the bomb that some of you were suggesting recently. It was nominated for three academy awards, and various (one of them looked like Carol Burnette, but I thought she had died -- maybe this was taped earlier -- or maybe she isn't dead -- or maybe it was somebody else) were praising it. This CB-looking person said that she thinks the bar scene when he is trying to pray is one of the greatest, most difficult dramatic scenes in movie history. The director's son said that the movie did not turn out to be a box-office smash but that the "myth" that it was a total flop is an exaggeration. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:06:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOE6Qdj006540 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:06:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8C930@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:05:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:05:01 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOE4SS15205 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:04:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOE4Q57078388 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:04:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090342.00b46cf8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:04:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok In-Reply-To: <3FE99A8D.3070009@maynor.net> References: <20031224033946.24695.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <20031224033946.24695.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >(one of them looked like Carol Burnette, but >I thought she had died -- maybe this was taped earlier -- or maybe she >isn't dead -- or maybe it was somebody else) were praising it. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Carol Burnette is very much alive and is the recipient of one of this year's Kennedy Center Awards, to be televised the night of December 26. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:06:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOE6Qdk006540 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:06:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:05:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:05:01 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOE4vS15218 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:04:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.197]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224140452.EVGR1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:04:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE99D04.2060202@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:04:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers References: <200312241315.hBODF2S09837@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312241315.hBODF2S09837@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Kristin (reading messages in the archives now and then) I was just on the verge of asking what had become of you! I'm glad you're still with us, even though full-time would be better. I was thinking about you yesterday(?) when listening to something by an Estonian composer in my car. There was another WLM in my car yesterday or day before when The Very Reverend Somebody (is Very Reverend a step up from being just Reverend?) of the downtown Episcopal Church (I think it's called a cathedral) in Jackson was talking on the radio about advent, the twelve days of xmas, etc. That's the church I would've grown up in if my parents had followed their thought of joining it when they first got married. But I've told that story before -- about how I was an almost Episcopalian. Toward the end of that segment -- or rather when I was at my destination and turned off the car -- he was talking about some kind of big bonfire they have in front of the church to burn xmas decorations. I think that must be on Epiphany. Sounded as if they must block off Capitol Street, or at least that block, for the event. I should go sometime. I used to go to that church for xmas-eve communion occasionally when a teenager and young adult. Meanwhile, PRM (Public Radio of Mississippi) has changed its name to Mississippi Broadcasting Somethingorother. I don't like it. And I don't know why they changed. I like PRM. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:09:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOE9Jdi006566 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:09:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C953@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:08:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:08:56 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOE8uS15686 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:08:56 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOE8sGn068643 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:08:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:09:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <3FE99B71.9030208@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I take it that your cold is still doing bad things. So are my ears, I >might add. I am so very, very tired of being . I want my old >life back. This is not a holiday season that I will remember with >pleasure. I'm ready for New Year's to get here. I want to eat >black-eyed peas and feel optimistic for future life. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Because Karen isn't here to say it, I must tell you that I worry that you will break your eardrums by flying with congested ears. I hope that doesn't happen. In your shoes, I would cancel my NYC trip. Yes, I'm still ill. I went to the doctor yesterday morning for all the good that did me. (Clyde says I'm a bad patient and I agree.) I don't have strep throat. They did a culture. I don't have a sinus infection. I don't have an ear infection. I don't have pneumonia because my lungs are clear. I'm not running a fever. The only symptom that sounds like the flu is that I had the chills. But even if I do have the flu, it can't be treated. Flu can only be treated in the first 48 hours after onset. My throat is indeed red and icky. So I was prescribed an inhaler to use four times a day until the cough stops. And I was prescribed strong decongestants to be taken twice a day. Other than that I must wait for my body to fight this off. As I said, I find it hard to believe that this inhaler is getting anywhere near my throat. And I gave up on the prescription decongestant when I discovered it wasn't nearly as effective as the over-the-counter thing that I was taking before I went to the doctor. Illness sucks. I want to go back to being lucky. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:15:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEFRdi006645 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:15:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8C951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:15:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:15:04 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEF4S16664 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:15:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002299DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:15:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241415.hBOEF4S16664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:15:04 -0500 From: Kristin Sarv Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Kristin Sarv Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Kristin, come back soon! As I see, the window for answering from the archives is of limited size. Just wanted to add: As to my coming back - oh, I'd like to manage with some tasks - not actual promises to other persons, but half-promises, as there are some expectations in the air, things I planned to do, but haven't. At the moment I'm about to set back home quite quickly - I just dropped in the office, and a reason why I stayed a bit longer was that I was listening to Britten's A Ceremony of Carols over the computer, and although I have the original CD-copy at home, I didn't want to leave before it was over. All the best to everybody again, and have a nice Christmas Eve! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:17:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEHmdi006683 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:17:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C96F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:17:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:19 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEHJS16877 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002299E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:17:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241417.hBOEHJS16877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:05:18 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Have any of you ever used an inhaler? There seems to be something I'm not >getting about this. I try to follow the directions but all I seem to do is >spray a little mist onto the top of my mouth or onto my tongue. Isn't it >supposed to get to my throat? I really don't see how this can do much good. > >bonnie I have used an inhaler. Typically when they're prescribed, the doctor talks to you about getting a "spacer", which is also a prescription item, I think - or maybe you can buy it non-prescription; it's just expensive w/out a scrip. The spacer catches larger drops against the sides, and somehow changes the trajectory so that you can inhale more effectively, w/out painting the mouth. That's important for a couple of reasons - a) side effects like racing heart are greater when stuff is absorbed through the lining of the mouth b) the meds don't get to where they're needed c) you increase the chances of developing thrush (oral yeast infection) when you coat your tongue w/ the stuff. (at least the corticosteroid inhalers) clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:18:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEIJdi006688 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:18:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:17:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:57 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEHuS16961 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224141751.PGQP20519.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:17:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9A010.5060208@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:17:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Because Karen isn't here to say it, I must tell you that I worry that you > will break your eardrums by flying with congested ears. I hope that > doesn't happen. In your shoes, I would cancel my NYC trip. Somebody who called me about making food for a Democratic Party thing told me when I mentioned my ears and my upcoming trip about these little plugs they sell at Walmart called "Earplanes." I went out there and looked at the box yesterday but decided they might be bad instead of good because the directions said to blow out your ears (as in hold your nose and clear the ears) before inserting the things. Since it is impossible for me to clear out my clogged ears, I would be inserting them over the clog. That might do more harm than good. If my eardrums break, they break. At least that might release some of this horrible gunk. > And I was prescribed strong > decongestants to be taken twice a day. I bet they're the same ones I've been taking. Mine are something like gaucamole, generic for something like panmist. I think. With all these drugs, it's hard to remember which is which. I will report, however, that nothing horrible has hit me yet from taking the drug that Karen declared very evil. I'm not sure that it's doing any good, though. > Illness sucks. I want to go > back to being lucky. YES! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:18:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEIqdi006698 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:18:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8C959@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:18:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:18:30 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEIUS17047 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:18:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.002299EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:18:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241418.hBOEIUS17047@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:18:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: For Kristin To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:15:02 -0500, Kristin Sarv wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > >> http://www.jacquielawson.com/viewcard.asp?code=0279309843 > >Like Chudleigh, I say, Thank you! > >Merry Christmas to everyone! > >Kristin (reading messages in the archives now and then) YaY, Kristin, how are you - we've been missing you! Happy Holidays! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:22:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEMvdi006820 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:22:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C97A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:22:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:22:35 -0500 Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.73]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEMYS17549 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:22:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.197]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224142229.PIMC20519.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:22:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9A126.6030603@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:22:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Spam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Remember a while back when somebody mentioned noticing more and more spam from names/addresses similar to ones he/she had recently sent mail to? I've been noticing that more and more. And I've been noticing things like names from my genealogy pages being given as the senders for spam. I find this creepy. I really can't imagine that spammers are busy looking through things like my genealogy webpages and pulling out names to use for just my personal spam. But I wonder whether some kind of fancy program is crawling the web quickly gathering appropriate names to personalize spam. I've been noticing it for weeks but am thinking about it right now since I just got spam from Clay Milligan, a dead g-grandfather. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:23:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOENrdi006850 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:23:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C984@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:23:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 284903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:23:30 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOENUS17636 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:23:30 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOENSGn070669 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:23:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092141.00baf6f8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:23:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <200312241417.hBOEHJS16877@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have used an inhaler. Typically when they're prescribed, the doctor talks >to you about getting a "spacer", which is also a prescription item, She told me I was supposed to not put it in my mouth but hold it two inches away. >c) you increase the chances of developing thrush (oral yeast infection) >when you coat your tongue w/ the stuff. (at least the corticosteroid >inhalers) --clo This is albuterol (trichloromonofluoromethane and dichlorodifluoromethane with oleic acid. Is that a corticosteriod? Why are you posting? I thought you were on the road. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOERAdi006897 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:27:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C984@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:26:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:26:44 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEQiS18015 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:26:44 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOEQg57081390 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:26:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092450.00bb5ab0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:27:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <3FE9A010.5060208@maynor.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I bet they're the same ones I've been taking. Mine are something like >gaucamole, generic for something like panmist. I think. Mine is psuedoephedrine with guaifensesin which is the exact same thing that the over-the-counter stuff, is although the prescription stuff looks very different and is supposed to be 12 hours. > > Illness sucks. I want to go back to being lucky. > >YES! -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:27:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOER7di006896 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:27:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C98D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:26:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:26:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEQlS18027 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:26:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00229A56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:26:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241426.hBOEQlS18027@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:26:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:23:51 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>I have used an inhaler. Typically when they're prescribed, the doctor talks >>to you about getting a "spacer", which is also a prescription item, > >She told me I was supposed to not put it in my mouth but hold it two inches >away. > >>c) you increase the chances of developing thrush (oral yeast infection) >>when you coat your tongue w/ the stuff. (at least the corticosteroid >>inhalers) --clo > >This is albuterol (trichloromonofluoromethane and dichlorodifluoromethane >with oleic acid. Is that a corticosteriod? > >Why are you posting? I thought you were on the road. > > >bonnie My father disapproved of leaving right away, so my mother is anxiously holding back till after Christmas. Then, I don't know what will happen. Dad will probably disapprove more, and Mom will keep holding back waiting for him to think it's a good idea instead of doing what she thinks she needs to do. It's typical behavior for them. I am "on call" to do whatever she /they want. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:28:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOESYdi006912 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:28:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8C973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:28:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:28:12 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOESBS18208 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:28:11 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOESA2f025580 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:28:10 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOES9JC025566; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:28:10 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224062945.00a43c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:31:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:05 AM 12/24/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Have any of you ever used an inhaler? There seems to be something I'm not >getting about this. I try to follow the directions but all I seem to do is >spray a little mist onto the top of my mouth or onto my tongue. Isn't it >supposed to get to my throat? I really don't see how this can do much good. > >bonnie Weren't you giving any instructions? I googled and found this simple one for you. http://www.huff-n-puff.net/inhaler.htm At least you are doing better than the guy who was spraying the outside of his throat. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:30:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEUXdi006951 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:30:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C993@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:30:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:11 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEUAS18393 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:10 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOEU957081833 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092845.00bb2b88@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Spam In-Reply-To: <3FE9A126.6030603@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Remember a while back when somebody mentioned noticing more and more >spam from names/addresses similar to ones he/she had recently sent mail >to? I've been noticing that more and more. And I've been noticing >things like names from my genealogy pages being given as the senders for >spam. I find this creepy. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I'm beginning to find it odd that I do not get a single scrap of spam. GWI has a spam filter you can set, which I did. But I don't even get any spam filtered out in the place where you can check. Zero, nada. I'm assuming it's because I have a brand new email address. But I wouldn't think it would take long to be found out. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:30:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEUYdi006954 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:30:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00229A3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:30:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:11 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEUBS18405 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C98B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:30:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200312241430.hBOEUBS18405@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:30:11 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:23:51 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>I have used an inhaler. Typically when they're prescribed, the doctor talks >>to you about getting a "spacer", which is also a prescription item, > >She told me I was supposed to not put it in my mouth but hold it two inches >away. > >>c) you increase the chances of developing thrush (oral yeast infection) >>when you coat your tongue w/ the stuff. (at least the corticosteroid >>inhalers) --clo > >This is albuterol (trichloromonofluoromethane and dichlorodifluoromethane >with oleic acid. Is that a corticosteriod? > >Why are you posting? I thought you were on the road. > > >bonnie No, albuterol is what I use as a "rescue" inhaler - it lessens symptoms w/ the least side effects of anything I have tried. Try using a toilet paper tube if you don't want to buy a spacer. Also, did he/she tell you abt doing two puffs, five minutes apart? The first one gets in as far as it can with you inhaling weakly, and opens up the passages a little in the 1st 5-10 min. Then you have a stronger breathing apparatus, and can breathe deeper and suck it in farther on the 2d pull, so it will help more. An allergist taught me that, as well as giving me the spacer. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:33:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEXIdi006977 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:33:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C995@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:32:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:32:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEWtS18709 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:32:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOEWrW1019611 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:32:53 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOEWqWq019594; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:32:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224063522.00a43940@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:35:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers In-Reply-To: <200312241415.hBOEF4S16664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:15 AM 12/24/2003 -0500, Kristin Sarv wrote: >All the best to everybody again, and have a nice Christmas Eve! > >Kristin Thanks for checking in. You are missed. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:34:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEY7di006987 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:34:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C99B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:33:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:33:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEXiS18808 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:33:45 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOEXhGn072108 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:33:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224093129.00bae888@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:34:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031224062945.00a43c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Weren't you giving any instructions? I googled and found this simple one >for you. >http://www.huff-n-puff.net/inhaler.htm > >At least you are doing better than the guy who was spraying the outside of >his throat. B Thanks. I was given instructions by the doc and in the insert. I'm thinking now that maybe I'm doing it right and that I just don't feel the mist hitting my throat when maybe it actually is. Perhaps the nerve endings on the tongue and top of mouth are more sensitive than the nerve endings in the throat. I didn't feel the swab hit my throat either although it certainly set off a gag and a coughing fit as did the under-the-tongue thermometer. I do have a swollen lymph node. But it's the wrong one. The doc was puzzled by that but didn't seem overly concerned. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:35:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEZedi006995 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:35:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8C9A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:35:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEZHS19100 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:35:17 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOEZF57082807 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:35:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224093436.00bae6e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:35:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <200312241430.hBOEUBS18405@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Also, did he/she tell you abt doing two puffs, five minutes apart? >The first one gets in as far as it can with you inhaling weakly, and >opens up the passages a little in the 1st 5-10 min. Then you have a >stronger breathing apparatus, and can breathe deeper and suck it in >farther on the 2d pull, so it will help more. >clo Thanks. That's helpful. She told me a minute apart and didn't give me the reason, which makes lots of sense. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:43:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEhUdi007105 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:43:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8C9C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:43:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:43:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEh7S19713 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:43:07 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOEh5W1027144 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:43:05 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOEh4Wq027120; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:43:04 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224064300.00a2e1f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:45:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224093129.00bae888@pop.gwi.net> References: <4.2.2.20031224062945.00a43c10@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:34 AM 12/24/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>Weren't you giving any instructions? I googled and found this simple one >>for you. >>http://www.huff-n-puff.net/inhaler.htm >> >>At least you are doing better than the guy who was spraying the outside of >>his throat. B > >Thanks. I was given instructions by the doc and in the insert. I'm >thinking now that maybe I'm doing it right and that I just don't feel the >mist hitting my throat when maybe it actually is. Perhaps the nerve >endings on the tongue and top of mouth are more sensitive than the nerve >endings in the throat. I didn't feel the swab hit my throat either >although it certainly set off a gag and a coughing fit as did the >under-the-tongue thermometer. I do have a swollen lymph node. But it's >the wrong one. The doc was puzzled by that but didn't seem overly concerned. I don't remember any mist hitting my throat either when I was prescribed the same drug. Just hold your breath as the directions say after breathing in as you spray. A spacer isn't necessary. Hope you feel better soon! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 08:52:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOEq8di007266 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:52:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00229ABA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 9:41:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 285598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:41:44 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOEfiS19598 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:41:44 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOEem31015512 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBOEemXW018155 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:40:48 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 06:40:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jodi's inhaler seems to work best when she takes a deep breath and squirts the inhaler in the middle of that breath. You want the incoming air to carry the stuff further back. But I could ask her when she wakes up. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 09:25:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOFP1di008076 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:25:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CA3E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:24:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 286916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:24:38 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOFOaS23760 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:24:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.197]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224152431.RFCJ1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:24:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9AFB0.2010103@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:24:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224080402.00b65ec8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224090455.00bb1c80@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092450.00bb5ab0@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092450.00bb5ab0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I bet they're the same ones I've been taking. Mine are something like >> gaucamole, generic for something like panmist. I think. > > Mine is psuedoephedrine with guaifensesin which is the exact same thing > that the over-the-counter stuff, is although the prescription stuff looks > very different and is supposed to be 12 hours. I just looked at the bottle. Mine is GUIAFENEX PS80-800MBTAB -- Generic for PANMIST-LA-80-somethingcoveredupbyasticker. It's also a 12-hr thing. I'm about to take Spencer to Furrbabies. Have to do it this morning since they're closing for drop-offs/pick-ups from noon today until Friday. My house is going to be very lonesome tonight. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:02:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOG29di008740 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:02:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00229C0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:01:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:01:46 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (root@maple.vaxer.net [66.199.186.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOG1jS28513 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:01:46 -0500 Received: from maple.vaxer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOG0M31011791 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sylvar@localhost) by maple.vaxer.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBOG0MQj011091 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:00:22 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.vaxer.net: sylvar owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:00:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Ostrowsky To: The usual gang of meebers Subject: Jodi on inhalers Message-ID: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jodi says: First I shake the inhaler -- you have to do that, or else you don't get a good dose. I put it in my mouth and my teeth are on top and bottom of it, I almost kind of bite it. My tongue is touching the bottom of the inhaler. The inhaler is angled up slightly to the roof of my mouth, so I don't know how it would end up on her tongue. (She adds: "I could see how she's getting it on her tongue: she's doing it wrong. My dad [a nurse anesthetist] taught me.") I breathe out through the inhaler, then take a big breath. Near the end of the breath I do the inhaler. You're supposed to hold your breath to make it really work, though. I usually don't. Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:03:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOG3Pdi008757 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:03:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00229C20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:02 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOG31S28717 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:01 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOG2xGn081796 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224110302.00bcc9e8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Jodi on inhalers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks Jodi and Ben. And a Merry Christmas to you both. >Jodi says: > >First I shake the inhaler -- you have to do that, or else you don't >get a good dose. > >I put it in my mouth and my teeth are on top and bottom of it, I almost >kind of bite it. My tongue is touching the bottom of the inhaler. The >inhaler is angled up slightly to the roof of my mouth, so I don't know how >it would end up on her tongue. (She adds: "I could see how she's getting >it on her tongue: she's doing it wrong. My dad [a nurse anesthetist] >taught me.") > >I breathe out through the inhaler, then take a big breath. Near the end >of the breath I do the inhaler. You're supposed to hold your breath to >make it really work, though. I usually don't. > >Ben bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:04:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOG45di008764 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CACC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:42 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOG3fS28790 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:41 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 1934D2B8D5; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8BC2B689 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:03:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a transition year In-Reply-To: <002d01c3c9ca$84638fc0$99cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Thanks for sharing the story, Lynne. I wish nothing > > > but the best for Chris. > > > > > > --Adam I add my best wishes to Adam's. And two other notes: You're still working, though, right? I hope so (for the caretaking breaks it would give you, but not if that's not your preference). Also, have you checked into any of the caregiving lists? I lurked on one for a while when my mother was post-stroke and living at our house and was noir-ly amused. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:21:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOGL0di009156 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:21:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CB16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:20:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 288785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOGJoS30246 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:19:50 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOGJl2f009390 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:19:47 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOGJkJC009376; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:19:46 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224082131.00b87330@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:22:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Jodi on inhalers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does she have the kind that you are supposed to put in your mouth because usually you do not put it in your mouth? Larry has one that you do, however. Betty At 08:00 AM 12/24/2003 -0800, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: >Jodi says: > >First I shake the inhaler -- you have to do that, or else you don't >get a good dose. > >I put it in my mouth and my teeth are on top and bottom of it, I almost >kind of bite it. My tongue is touching the bottom of the inhaler. The >inhaler is angled up slightly to the roof of my mouth, so I don't know how >it would end up on her tongue. (She adds: "I could see how she's getting >it on her tongue: she's doing it wrong. My dad [a nurse anesthetist] >taught me.") > >I breathe out through the inhaler, then take a big breath. Near the end >of the breath I do the inhaler. You're supposed to hold your breath to >make it really work, though. I usually don't. > >Ben From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:33:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOGWxdi009425 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:33:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00229C8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:32:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 289275 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:32:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOGWYS31621 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:32:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOGWXkK000020 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:32:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:31:05 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Preparations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NPR is broadcasting Lessons & Carols from King's College. It's really lovely. I need to go to Schnucks to get groceries for our Christmas feast, but this sounds too pretty to leave. Ah, well, I'll go to Lessons and Carols tonight at 10:30 anyway. All gifts are bought and wrapped, now I just have to cook. I'm not doing most of the traditional things I make, like the Italian fried cookies, because it's all too much for just the three of us to eat. Dinner tonight: Spanatatarokopita Breakfast tomorrow: Homemade Oatmeal Bread with jam Christmas Dinner: Orange Rum Duck Basmati Rice Sweet Potatoes Cranberry Sauce Desserts: Pumpkin Pie (maybe two -- Kevin and Ana fight over it so much) Christmas Cookies Eggnog -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 11:27:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOHRldi010308 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:27:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00229DB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:27:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 291710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:27:23 -0500 Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOHRNS05420 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:27:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224172718.FJYV1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:27:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9CC76.7090306@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:27:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Christmas Dinner: > Orange Rum Duck > Basmati Rice > Sweet Potatoes > Cranberry Sauce Where's the green?? Surely you'll open a can of English peas or something! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 11:39:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOHdTdi010691 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:39:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CC7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:39:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:39:05 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOHd5S06892 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:39:05 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOHd259004151; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:39:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:38:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <3FE9CC76.7090306@maynor.net> References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:27 AM 12/24/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Christmas Dinner: >>Orange Rum Duck >>Basmati Rice >>Sweet Potatoes >>Cranberry Sauce > >Where's the green?? Surely you'll open a can of English peas or something! Bar Harbor entry: Roast goose Sweet potatoes (no marshmallow) Asparagus Green salad (the Fest version, I think) Creme brulee (maybe) cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 11:46:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOHkfdi010824 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:46:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CCB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:46:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:46:17 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBOHkGS07563 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:46:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 22364 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2003 17:46:13 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2003 17:46:13 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880C816A0 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:46:13 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1072287973!551797 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Preparations Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:46:13 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01c3ca45$d3010740$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bar Harbor entry: > >Roast goose >Sweet potatoes (no marshmallow) >Asparagus >Green salad (the Fest version, I think) >Creme brulee (maybe) > >cwv > West Chester entry: We are driving to a friend's house. If they cook, the menu does not matter much to us. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 11:50:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOHoadi010929 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:50:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CCBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 292624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:12 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOHoBS07794 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOHnTw7000843 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:49:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE9D17A.5050402@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:48:42 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9CC76.7090306@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Christmas Dinner: >> Orange Rum Duck >> Basmati Rice >> Sweet Potatoes >> Cranberry Sauce > > > Where's the green?? Surely you'll open a can of English peas or something! Why would I waste food? It's our Christmas dinner, and we'll eat just what we like. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 12:33:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOIXKdi011752 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:33:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CD54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:32:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:32:56 -0500 Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOIWuS12350 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:32:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224183250.TBHZ1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9DBD3.9060805@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:32:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9CC76.7090306@maynor.net> <3FE9D17A.5050402@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FE9D17A.5050402@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: >> Where's the green?? Surely you'll open a can of English peas or >> something! > > Why would I waste food? It's our Christmas dinner, and we'll > eat just what we like. What a refreshing attitude. I don't think I've ever sat down to a greenless meal (as in a sit-down nice meal). And this eating discussion makes me think I should go buy some nabs or a balance bar or something since I won't have much time in Memphis between flights and since you never know whether you're going to get anything to eat on airplanes these days. And I can't remember what's available in the neighborhood when I finally get to NYC tomorrow night -- not much in the way of convenient, decent eating, iirc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 12:37:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOIb7di011847 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:37:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CD6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:36:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:36:43 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOIagS12607 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:36:42 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBOIafkF028109 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:36:41 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBOIaeIO028107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:36:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:36:40 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Spam Message-ID: <20031224183640.GA27885@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FE9A126.6030603@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092845.00bb2b88@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224092845.00bb2b88@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I'm beginning to find it odd that I do not get a single scrap of spam. GWI = has a spam filter you can set, which I did. But I don't even get any spam = filtered out in the place where you can check. Zero, nada. I'm assuming = it's because I have a brand new email address. But I wouldn't think it = would take long to be found out. = = = bonnie It's not odd. I have a bunch of email addresses which I have had for a while (like years), and they don't get spam. I do not tell them to people who use them to send me things from questionable places. And I do not tell the addresses to questionable places. That's what my Yahoo and Hotmail and Eudoramail accounts are for. Also, I *am* a recluse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 12:52:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOIqAdi012108 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:52:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00229EA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOIpjS13618 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOIph2f014340 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:51:44 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOIpgJC014308; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:51:42 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224105401.00b9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:54:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <3FE9DBD3.9060805@maynor.net> References: <3FE9D17A.5050402@swbell.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9CC76.7090306@maynor.net> <3FE9D17A.5050402@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:32 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Chapman wrote: > >>>Where's the green?? Surely you'll open a can of English peas or >>>something! >> >> Why would I waste food? It's our Christmas dinner, and we'll >>eat just what we like. > >What a refreshing attitude. I don't think I've ever sat down to a >greenless meal (as in a sit-down nice meal). > >And this eating discussion makes me think I should go buy some nabs or a >balance bar or something since I won't have much time in Memphis between >flights and since you never know whether you're going to get anything to >eat on airplanes these days. And I can't remember what's available in >the neighborhood when I finally get to NYC tomorrow night -- not much in >the way of convenient, decent eating, iirc. Stop by the deli and pick up a sandwich. No food on most flights. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 12:53:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOIr2di012141 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:53:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CD80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:52:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:52:38 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBOIqbS13699 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:52:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 4694 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2003 18:52:36 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-12.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2003 18:52:36 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DE7173F for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:52:36 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1072291956!552311 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Preparations Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c3ca4f$191a7fa0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031224105401.00b9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Stop by the deli and pick up a sandwich. No food on most flights. > >Betty > A deli in Starkville, MS?? alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 12:56:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOIuPdi012248 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:56:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CD8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:56:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:56:00 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOItxS14021 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:56:00 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBOItwkF028145 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:55:58 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBOItwRX028143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:55:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:55:57 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations Message-ID: <20031224185557.GB27885@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Amsterdam entry: We got a new cloth tablecloth and contrasting napkins (cream and navy). I'm going to set the table with the silver tonight. I think our pink dishes are going to clash amazingly, but maybe it'll be ok. Mimosas for breakfast with fresh squeezed oj who cares about lunch majool dates stuffed with cream cheese and an almond dried fruits and nuts salad mashed potatoes spinach lasagne roasted vegetables (lots of peppers) stuff from the bakery (mine looks like a mini chocolate bomb, pat's looks like some creamy hazelnut thing) mostly dark chocolate bonbons port and stilton (and we have both managed to get gifts for each other - somthing we don't always manage, so it's very nice when we do) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:00:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJ0Bdi012389 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:00:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CD9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:59:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:59:47 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOIxkS14306 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:59:46 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOIxjW1029307 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:59:45 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOIxiWq029284; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:59:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224110139.00ba2750@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:02:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <000401c3ca4f$191a7fa0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: <4.2.2.20031224105401.00b9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:52 PM 12/24/2003 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > >Stop by the deli and pick up a sandwich. No food on most flights. > > > >Betty > > >A deli in Starkville, MS?? What was I thinking!? I think they sell food to go at her Walmart. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:11:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJB6di012644 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CD94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJ0eS14394 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOJ0dW1030275 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:00:39 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOJ0bWq030256; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:00:38 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224110312.00b9eac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:03:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <20031224185557.GB27885@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Ucb-Notice: This message has been processed by a spam tagging system. See http://mailinfo.berkeley.edu/ for more information X-Ucb-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=39%, Report="BIG_FONT, EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION, IN_REP_TO, RATWARE_SIGNATURE_3, REFERENCES, __ANY_QUALCOMM_MUA, __CT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __EUDORA_MUA, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MSGID, __HAS_X_MAILER, __IN_REP_TO, __MIME_HTML, __MIME_VERSION, __OLD_EUDORA1, __OLD_EUDORA2, __REFERENCES, __SANE_MSGID, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __TO_MALFORMED_2" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have a wonderful day! Sounds great. B At 07:55 PM 12/24/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Amsterdam entry: > >We got a new cloth tablecloth and contrasting napkins (cream and >navy). I'm going to set the table with the silver tonight. I >think our pink dishes are going to clash amazingly, but maybe >it'll be ok. > >Mimosas for breakfast with fresh squeezed oj > >who cares about lunch > >majool dates stuffed with cream cheese and an almond >dried fruits and nuts > >salad >mashed potatoes >spinach lasagne >roasted vegetables (lots of peppers) > >stuff from the bakery (mine looks like a mini chocolate bomb, >pat's looks like some creamy hazelnut thing) > >mostly dark chocolate bonbons >port and stilton > > >(and we have both managed to get gifts for each other - somthing >we don't always manage, so it's very nice when we do) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:11:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJB6di012646 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CD85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:01:28 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJ1RS14484 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:01:27 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOJ1Q2f023768 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:01:26 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOJ1PJC023582 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:01:26 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224110333.00b80100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:04:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <20031224185557.GB27885@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have left over freshly squeezed lime juice. Maybe a margarita is in order with my lunch. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:11:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJB6di012647 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CD9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:05:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:05:44 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJ5iS14890 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:05:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224190539.TEAV20306.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:05:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9E383.3090302@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:05:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <4.2.2.20031224105401.00b9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031224110139.00ba2750@uclink.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031224110139.00ba2750@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: >> A deli in Starkville, MS?? > > What was I thinking!? I think they sell food to go at her Walmart. I would put a couple of our delis up against any in the country in quality. Visitors here are quite impressed. But some things here close for a week or more at this time of year, and everything will be closed tomorrow. Even Walmart, I think. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:11:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJB6di012648 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CDAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJAES15403 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:14 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOJAC2f000385 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:10:12 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOJABJC000367; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:10:12 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031224111124.00b9b340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:13:00 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <3FE9E383.3090302@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20031224110139.00ba2750@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031224105401.00b9dc60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031224110139.00ba2750@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:05 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>>A deli in Starkville, MS?? >> >>What was I thinking!? I think they sell food to go at her Walmart. > >I would put a couple of our delis up against any in the country in >quality. Visitors here are quite impressed. But some things here close >for a week or more at this time of year, and everything will be closed >tomorrow. Even Walmart, I think. If you go out, pick up a nice sandwich. It'll keep over night in the refrigerator. I'm sure it would be better than anything you could purchase on the flight. I want to go to New York for Christmas again! Maybe next year. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:11:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJB6dj012644 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:11:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CDB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:30 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBOJAUS15420 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 13361 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2003 19:10:23 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-2.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2003 19:10:23 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F219FF for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:23 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1072293023!551527 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Preparations Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c3ca51$95241f00$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <3FE9E383.3090302@maynor.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor >Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 2:06 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Preparations > > >Betty wrote: > >>> A deli in Starkville, MS?? >> >> What was I thinking!? I think they sell food to go at her Walmart. > >I would put a couple of our delis up against any in the country in >quality. Visitors here are quite impressed. But some things >here close >for a week or more at this time of year, and everything will be closed >tomorrow. Even Walmart, I think. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > I am sure we define a deli as much different. I think of a deli as a place with Jewish foods,fresh meats,chesses,bagels, lox and breads. alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:11:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJB6di012645 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CD9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 294825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:57 -0500 Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJ0uS14402 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224190051.TCRD20306.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9E264.7060503@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:00:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <000401c3ca4f$191a7fa0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000401c3ca4f$191a7fa0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >>Stop by the deli and pick up a sandwich. No food on most flights. >> >>Betty >> > A deli in Starkville, MS?? I haven't seen BB's original posting yet, but I will say that there are several very good delis in Starkville. But open on xmas day?? Before 8 a.m.?? That's pretty funny. Meanwhile, however, I just went to NW's web page and saw that meals will be for sale on the flight from Memphis. I think I'll go find some nabs this afternoon, though, just in case I don't find the for-sale-meal idea tempting. Here's its description: http://www.nwa.com/services/onboard/special/meals.html Too bad I no longer have any . I got used to free first-class during those statused years. I bet people in first class don't have to buy their meals. I'm wondering whether I should check in for my flight right now. You can do it online within 36 hours of departure, but I don't really see the point. It's not as if the Tupelo airport is likely to have long lines. I'd just as soon check in there and get real boarding passes instead of ones printed with my wimpy printer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:16:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJGTdi012800 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:16:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CDBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:16:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:16:04 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJG4S15823 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:16:04 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOJG257014142 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:16:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224141451.00b6af48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:16:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> References: <3FE9CC76.7090306@maynor.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Bar Harbor entry: > >Roast goose >Sweet potatoes (no marshmallow) >Asparagus >Green salad (the Fest version, I think) >Creme brulee (maybe) >cwv And homemade sourdough dinner rolls (maybe). One of our Jewish dinner guests is on the Atkins diet. But she's nice about it. I'm going to (maybe) make her creme brulee with Splenda. She can have the egg and the cream. Just not the sugar. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:21:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJLXdi012941 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:21:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00229F12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:21:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:21:08 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBOJL8S16189 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:21:08 -0500 Received: (qmail 27330 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2003 19:21:06 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-5.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2003 19:21:06 -0000 Received: from FALCON195 (FALCON-195.ULAR.UPENN.EDU [130.91.35.195]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837A31472 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:21:06 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1072293666!552207 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Preparations Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c3ca53$146add70$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224141451.00b6af48@pop.gwi.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of bonniev >Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 2:16 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Preparations > > >>Bar Harbor entry: >> >>Roast goose >>Sweet potatoes (no marshmallow) >>Asparagus >>Green salad (the Fest version, I think) >>Creme brulee (maybe) >>cwv > >And homemade sourdough dinner rolls (maybe). One of our Jewish dinner >guests is on the Atkins diet. But she's nice about it. I'm going to >(maybe) make her creme brulee with Splenda. She can have the >egg and the >cream. Just not the sugar. > > >bonnie > Damn Jews :) alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:28:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJSPdi013060 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:28:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CDE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:28:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:28:01 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJS0S16616 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:28:00 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBOJRxkF028257 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:27:59 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBOJRwlI028255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:27:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:27:58 +0100 From: steph To: words-l Subject: and if you can't decide Message-ID: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://keaggy.com/dinner/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:36:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJaDdi013370 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:36:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CDEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:35:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 295849 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:35:48 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJZmS17409 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:35:48 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOJZkkK025690 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:35:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE9EA3B.9010401@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:34:19 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: and if you can't decide References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Go for Pho Grand on Grand Ave. Very good Vietnamese. steph wrote: > http://keaggy.com/dinner/ > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:56:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJuPdi013803 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:56:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00229FBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:56:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:56:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f36.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJu0S19451 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:56:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:55:54 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.155 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:55:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.155] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:55:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2003 19:55:54.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0D285C0:01C3CA57] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Because Karen isn't here to say it, I must tell you that I worry that you >will break your eardrums by flying with congested ears. I hope that >doesn't happen. In your shoes, I would cancel my NYC trip. !!! I must be the only wordlsur that doesn't worry about Natalie. She has great common sense when it comes to her health and well-being (financial and physical) and always makes the right call. >Yes, I'm still ill. I went to the doctor yesterday morning for all the >good that did me. (Clyde says I'm a bad patient and I agree.) I don't have >strep throat. They did a culture. I don't have a sinus infection. I >don't have an ear infection. I don't have pneumonia because my lungs are >clear. I'm not running a fever. The only symptom that sounds like the flu >is that I had the chills. But even if I do have the flu, it can't be >treated. Flu can only be treated in the first 48 hours after onset. My >throat is indeed red and icky. So I was prescribed an inhaler to use four >times a day until the cough stops. And I was prescribed strong >decongestants to be taken twice a day. Other than that I must wait for my >body to fight this off. Awww, poor baby! It took an awful long time for me to fight off my annual Thanksgiving/ early winter cold. I finally started feeling better over the weekend. Give it time, watch your soaps, drink soup and chill with the cats. _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:58:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOJwqdi013865 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:58:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CE43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:58:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:58:27 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOJwRS19611 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:58:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOJwQkK011227 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:58:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:56:59 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: and if you can't decide References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I poked around a little bit, and I declare this page an Official Fest Page! He has lots of good St. Louisey stuff on it. Nice work, Steph. steph wrote: > http://keaggy.com/dinner/ > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:00:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOK0mdi013945 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:00:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:00:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 296755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:00:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f57.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOK0MS19723 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:00:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:00:17 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.155 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:00:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.155] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Preparations Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:00:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2003 20:00:17.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D5D4A60:01C3CA58] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lovely Christmas menus from St. Louis, Maine and Amsterdam. _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:18:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKI0di014224 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:18:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CE78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:17:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:17:34 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKHYS20920 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:17:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOKHWkK023499 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:17:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:16:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Natalie: > >> Because Karen isn't here to say it, I must tell you that I worry that you >> will break your eardrums by flying with congested ears. I hope that >> doesn't happen. In your shoes, I would cancel my NYC trip. > > > !!! > > I must be the only wordlsur that doesn't worry about Natalie. She has > great common sense when it comes to her health and well-being > (financial and physical) and always makes the right call. Hush, Rashmi. I suspect Natalie enjoys being fussed over. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:26:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKQ7di014340 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:26:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CE90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:25:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:25:42 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKPfS21595 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:25:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224202536.XBEE1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:25:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9F641.1040707@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:25:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <000601c3ca51$95241f00$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <000601c3ca51$95241f00$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > I am sure we define a deli as much different. I think of a deli as a place > with Jewish foods,fresh meats,chesses,bagels, lox and breads. I don't know about "a place with Jewish foods" particularly, but I define a deli as a place with meats, cheeses, lots of different kinds of breads (including bagels), interesting salads, etc. -- a place where you can order sandwiches or just buy the ingredients and take them home. One of the best places in town for all kinds of food is City Bagel, which I would not really call "a deli" if describing it since I tend to think of delis as having less seating space than City Bagel has, but it really is a deli in its offerings. And lots and lots of people pick up stuff there -- like call or just go in and take the stuff home, in spite of the ample seating. It's closed for a couple of weeks now, though. I noticed Bulldog Deli was open when I passed it a little while ago. I thought about going in and getting a sandwich to put in the refrigerator and take with me tomorrow, but I decided that's too much trouble. Instead I bought a Pria bar, which is more convenient to carry. When I was heading out to Kroger to buy the Pria bar, I was reminded of another deli in town that I've never been in and that seems unlikely -- as in it has a name like C&J Bakery, is in an ugly strip-mall, etc. But I've heard many people say that it has fabulous sandwiches. One acquaintance of mine was saying that it has the best reuben sandwiches he has ever had in his life, and he lived in NYC for many years (and is Jewish, in case that influences food tastes). I ought to try that place someday. I did hang a community theatre poster on its door one time, but that has been my only interaction with it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:30:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKUsdi014435 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:30:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CE9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:30:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:30:29 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKUSS22059 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:30:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031224203023.XCJH1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:30:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3FE9F760.9060902@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:30:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Hush, Rashmi. I suspect Natalie enjoys being fussed over. Am I being ? I will say that I have no precedents for my current situation. Zero. Have never experienced anything like this before in my life. (If fussing over means giving frightening warnings, btw, then I can assure you that I do not like it. I felt like a total idiot going to the ER and telling the doctor about Karen's e-mail mentioning ear infections getting into the brain. When I mentioned it to my own doctor later, he grinned and said, "That's what you get for getting medical advice on the internet.") -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:45:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKjjdi014651 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:45:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CEAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:19 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKjGS23072 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:16 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOKjBbV803040 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:45:11 -0600 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:45:11 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok In-Reply-To: <3FE99A8D.3070009@maynor.net> Message-ID: References: <20031224033946.24695.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> <3FE99A8D.3070009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.1.86173 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: > I remember reading the Garrison book back whenever > it came out -- the book about oddities and possible > conspiracies -- and finding it fascinating. Egad. > that "It's a Wonderful Life" wasn't quite the bomb that some of you were > suggesting recently. It was nominated for three academy awards, and > various (one of them looked like Carol Burnette, but Lots of shitty movies have won awards, and lots of shitty movies have fans. IaWL is a shitty movie. Period, full stop, finis. I have spoken. That is all. -- Richard, digesting "Seabiscuit", and "Pirates of the Carribean" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:45:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKjjdi014649 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:45:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CEBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:13 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKjCS23068 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOKjAGn009783 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224154348.03093ad8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:45:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <000701c3ca53$146add70$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224141451.00b6af48@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >And homemade sourdough dinner rolls (maybe). One of our Jewish dinner > >guests is on the Atkins diet. But she's nice about it. I'm going to > >(maybe) make her creme brulee with Splenda. She can have the > >egg and the cream. Just not the sugar. > >bonnie > >Damn Jews :) >alec I think this is the first time they've ever been invited anywhere for Christmas dinner. Susan said that Christmas is a very lonely, boring day when you are Jewish. Everything's closed and there's nothing decent on TV. They've never had goose. So we thought we would share ours. They were delighted to be asked. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:46:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKkrdi014668 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:46:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CEC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:46:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:46:28 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKkRS23128 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:46:27 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOKkKbV9216074 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:46:20 -0600 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:46:20 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Message-ID: References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.1.86173 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: > Dinner tonight: > Spanatatarokopita I hope you used Pam. -- Richard, used a whole can to make hollandaise From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:58:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKwddi014893 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:58:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CEB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:48:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:48:12 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKmCS23221 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:48:12 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOKmAGn010055 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:48:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224154635.03098dd0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:48:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi writes: >Awww, poor baby! I can't tell how sincere that is. Thanks for the Christmas card, by the way. It just came today. >It took an awful long time for me to fight off my annual Thanksgiving/ >early winter cold. I finally started feeling better over the weekend. >Give it time, watch your soaps, drink soup and chill with the cats. God, I hope my cold doesn't last that long. Actually, the first week of it wasn't bad. Then my throat and ears closed up. Now I'm no longer willing to just chill and bide my time until wellness. I want this to be over. Now. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:58:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOKwddi014894 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:58:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CEDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:53:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 297853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:53:50 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOKroS23580 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:53:50 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOKrkrU001643 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:53:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FE9FC83.1020806@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:52:19 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> <3FE9F760.9060902@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Hush, Rashmi. I suspect Natalie enjoys being fussed over. > > > Am I being ? I will say that I have no precedents for my > current situation. Zero. Have never experienced anything like this > before in my life. (If fussing over means giving frightening warnings, > btw, then I can assure you that I do not like it. I felt like a total > idiot going to the ER and telling the doctor about Karen's e-mail > mentioning ear infections getting into the brain. When I mentioned it > to my own doctor later, he grinned and said, "That's what you get for > getting medical advice on the internet.") Well the ear infection/brain thing is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard. But I have vast experience with ear infections. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 15:06:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOL6Edi015100 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:06:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8CF2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:05:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 298476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:05:48 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOL5mS24690 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:05:48 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOL5h5D024501; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:05:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224160409.00b597a8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:05:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <3FE9FC83.1020806@swbell.net> References: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> <3FE9F760.9060902@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:52 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Well the ear infection/brain thing is possibly the stupidest >thing I've ever heard. But I have vast experience with ear >infections. Stick around. My guess is that we have yet to exhaustively plumb the depths of KK's medical misinformation. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 15:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOLKldi015380 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:20:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8CF84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:20:21 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOLKLS26007 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:20:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOLKKrU018227 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:20:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FEA02BD.6060506@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:18:53 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> <3FE9F760.9060902@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224160409.00b597a8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 02:52 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Well the ear infection/brain thing is possibly the stupidest >> thing I've ever heard. But I have vast experience with ear >> infections. > > > Stick around. My guess is that we have yet to exhaustively plumb the > depths of KK's medical misinformation. Well, I *was* hoping. How much more can there be after 12 years? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 15:21:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOLL6di015386 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:21:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8CF72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:20:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 299291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:20:41 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOLKfS26033 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:20:41 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOLKerU018439 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:20:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FEA02D1.1000606@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:19:13 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mene tekel parsin wrote: > Rita: > >>Dinner tonight: >>Spanatatarokopita >> > > I hope you used Pam. LOL. The butter is melting as I type. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 16:07:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOM7Gdi016403 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:07:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D05B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:06:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:06:50 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOM6oS29658 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:06:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBOM6lRp025642 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:06:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c3ca6a$67beaf80$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: A Christmas Joke Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBOM7Gdi016403 Three men died on Christmas eve and were met by Saint Peter ar the pearly gates. "In honor of this holy season," Saint Peter said, "you must each possess something that symbolizes Christmas to get into heaven." The first man fumbled through his pockets and pulled out a lighter. He flicked it on. "It represents a candle," he said. "You may pass through the pearly gates," Saint Peter said. The second man reached into his pocket and pulled out a set of keys. He shook them and said, "They're bells." Saint Peter said "You may pass through the pearly gates." The third man started searching desperately through his pockets and finally pulled out a pair of women's panties. St. Peter looked at the man with a raised eyebrow and asked, "And just what do those symbolize?" The man replied, "They're Carol's." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 16:40:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOMejdi016921 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:40:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D0AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOMeIS32041 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:18 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOMeE5B032286; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173844.00b5f670@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:39:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <3FEA02BD.6060506@swbell.net> References: <3FE9F406.1020706@swbell.net> <3FE9F760.9060902@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224160409.00b597a8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:18 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Well, I *was* hoping. How much more can there be after 12 years? You have no idea, my child. ;--> cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 16:40:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBOMekdi016926 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:40:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A22F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 301958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:20 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBOMeJS32048 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:19 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBOMeE5D032286; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173944.00b5aaa8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:40:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <3FEA02D1.1000606@swbell.net> References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:19 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >mene tekel parsin wrote: > >>Rita: >> >>>Dinner tonight: >>>Spanatatarokopita >> >>I hope you used Pam. > > > LOL. The butter is melting as I type. YES! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 17:19:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBONJldi017603 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:19:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D125@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 302835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBONJKS02169 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBONJKrW008682 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBONJIKj023139 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: <00fe01c3ca74$5ba56950$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: Merry Christmas you crazy Wordslurs... Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Love you all... have one for me. 'Can't both make it; 'Have offered to play rear guard support here so Ter can join you all out in NYC... I feel kind of apprehensive about her going alone though since the terror threat has been escalated, but it's up to her. I'd go if I could... maybe she'll stay home and watch the kids, and I'll make the sojourn! We'll see ;-P Sooo... Like Ermey says, "I don't care if you're naughty or nice...", just be safe and have a very merry fucking Christmas. ;-) 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 17:21:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBONL0di017656 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:21:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 302857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:20:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f35.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBONKXS02254 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:20:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:20:28 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.167 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:20:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.167] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:20:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2003 23:20:28.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[844BC0C0:01C3CA74] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: > >Awww, poor baby! >I can't tell how sincere that is. Thanks for the Christmas card, by the >way. It just came today. I was being very sincere. Your pain and discomfort and general ickiness came thro' in your posts ... it's not a good feeling. _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 17:24:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBONO3di017793 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:24:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D13E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:23:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 302995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:23:37 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f50.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBONNaS02606 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:23:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:23:31 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.167 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:23:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.167] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:23:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2003 23:23:31.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[F16570C0:01C3CA74] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:52 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Well the ear infection/brain thing is possibly the stupidest >thing I've ever heard. But I have vast experience with ear >infections. I'm reserving some of the snickers for the person who'd go around repeating that! I see lotsa goofy stuff on the 'net, doesn't mean I have to pass it on. _________________________________________________________________ Working moms: Find helpful tips here on managing kids, home, work — and yourself. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/workingmom.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 17:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBONPLdi017801 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D13F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:24:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:24:55 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBONOtS02749 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:24:55 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:50 PST Message-ID: <20031224232450.56982.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FE99A8D.3070009@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: It was nominated for three > academy awards, and > various (one of them looked like > Carol Burnette, but > I thought she had died -- maybe this was taped > earlier -- or maybe she > isn't dead -- or maybe it was somebody else) were > praising it. This > CB-looking person said that she thinks the bar scene > when he is trying > to pray is one of the greatest, most difficult > dramatic scenes in movie > history. The director's son said that the movie did > not turn out to be > a box-office smash but that the "myth" that it was a > total flop is an > exaggeration. I did not mean to denigrate the novie by saying it was a flop. It's still a very good movie. Carol Burnette is still very much alive. Her daughter, Carrie, died in 2001 of cancer. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 17:52:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBONq7di018173 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:52:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A2CC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:51:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:51:40 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBONpeS04921 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:51:40 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:51:35 PST Message-ID: <20031224235135.39593.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:51:35 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312241403.hBOE3YS15109@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Kristin Sarv wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > >> Merry Christmas to everyone! > >> > >> Kristin (reading messages in the archives now and > >then) > > > >Kristin, come back soon! > > > > Oh, dear! Thank you for this! > > Meanwhile I read your message about your husband's > disease, and this > reminded me about my classmate whom I met once again > after 26 years this > October when we had a school reunion. She had nursed > her husband, with his > lower body paralysed, for several years and lost him > then. He was able to > talk but so depressed at last that he actually > didn't. A sad story, and a > tough woman, and full of love towards her late > husband. > > I am sorry for your both's difficult times and wish > the best to you. Thank you, Kristin. You're not off the hook. I repeat, come back (when your schedule allows)!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:02:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP02Mdi018395 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:02:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D159@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:01:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:01:56 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP01uS05453 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:01:56 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:01:50 PST Message-ID: <20031225000150.13811.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3ca4f$191a7fa0$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > A deli in Starkville, MS?? Alec, you really should come to the Sucky South more often. Yes, it's true, there are delis, Alec. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:11:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0Bvdi018553 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:11:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D166@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:11:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:11:31 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP0BUS06000 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:11:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBP0BSkK010938 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:11:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEA2AD8.5050704@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:10:00 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173944.00b5aaa8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 03:19 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> mene tekel parsin wrote: >> >>> Rita: >>> >>>> Dinner tonight: >>>> Spanatatarokopita >>> >>> >>> I hope you used Pam. >> >> >> >> LOL. The butter is melting as I type. > > > YES! I'm deeply flattered that Clyde would be excited over anything *I* cook. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:12:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0CCdi018558 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:12:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D179@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 303644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:11:37 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP0BbS06016 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:11:37 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:11:32 PST Message-ID: <20031225001132.1767.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:11:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224123447.00b427b0@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Bar Harbor entry: > > Roast goose > Sweet potatoes (no marshmallow) > Asparagus > Green salad (the Fest version, I think) > Creme brulee (maybe) This will be the first time in 40 years that will not have what we've always had - a Welsh meal: Roast beef Gravy Potatoes mashed with beef stock Green peas Yorkshire Pudding Homemade Apple pie with Ice cream No alcohol, more's the pity. And we'll just have to make do with what will slide down Chris' throat. To Happier Days! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:37:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0budi019148 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:37:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D1B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:37:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:37:29 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP0bTS07701 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:37:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225003724.KLGK1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:37:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA3145.6020105@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:37:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <20031225000150.13811.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031225000150.13811.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > Alec, you really should come to the Sucky South more > often. Yes, it's true, there are delis, Alec. Alec was in Starkville for GoatRoast'94. But we didn't explore the town's offerings except for breakfast at the Starkville Cafe (a biscuits-and-gravy kind of place) and the bbq we had at the roast. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:38:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0cwdi019222 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:38:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D1A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP0cVS07744 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225003825.KLKO1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA3182.20406@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:38:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173944.00b5aaa8@pop.gwi.net> <3FEA2AD8.5050704@swbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3FEA2AD8.5050704@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: >>> LOL. The butter is melting as I type. >> >> YES! > > I'm deeply flattered that Clyde would be excited over > anything *I* cook. It's hard to screw up butter -- although I guess it's possible. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:41:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0ftdi019286 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:41:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D1BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:41:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:41:28 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP0fSS07995 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:41:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225004122.KLWF1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:41:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA3233.4080006@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:41:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <20031225001132.1767.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031225001132.1767.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: > This will be the first time in 40 years that will not > have what we've always had - a Welsh meal: > > Roast beef > Gravy > Potatoes mashed with beef stock > Green peas > Yorkshire Pudding > Homemade Apple pie with > Ice cream I'm confused. The menu above is what you are NOT having? > No alcohol, more's the pity. And we'll just have to > make do with what will slide down Chris' throat. To > Happier Days! Yes, I'll drink to that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:43:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0hRdi019297 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:43:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D1A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:43:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:43:00 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP0h0S08158 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:43:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225004255.KMCT1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA3290.106@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Where Will the Blood Come From? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU People who've lived in England can't give blood (in the US) because of MC Disease. So now that MC Disease is here, will people who've lived in the US not be able to give blood either? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 18:44:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP0irdi019351 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:44:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D1B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:44:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:44:26 -0500 Received: from imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP0iPS08259 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:44:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225004420.KMIK1948.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:44:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:44:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Missing Spencer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I sure miss Spencer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:27:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1R2di020192 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:27:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D1EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:26:35 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1QZS10973 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:26:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022A36F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:26:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200312250126.hBP1QZS10973@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:26:35 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:30:24 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Hush, Rashmi. I suspect Natalie enjoys being fussed over. > >Am I being ? I will say that I have no precedents for my >current situation. Zero. Have never experienced anything like this >before in my life. (If fussing over means giving frightening warnings, >btw, then I can assure you that I do not like it. I felt like a total >idiot going to the ER and telling the doctor about Karen's e-mail >mentioning ear infections getting into the brain. When I mentioned it >to my own doctor later, he grinned and said, "That's what you get for >getting medical advice on the internet.") > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I don't recall anything about ear infections getting into the brain, Natalie. I think you extended a comment abt ears being close to the brain. In spite of ear infections not getting into the brain, some kinds of upper repiratory infections do become serious. EG, UR viruses that can become meningitis, Strep that can become rheumatic fever, etc. The fact that the dr chortled at you doesn't make it a bad decision to go to a dr when you were in serious pain, either. I know that you hate this situation; I know that you feel foolish asking for advice; I know that you are hurting. I also know that we are fussing at you - but you were resistant to getting checked out, and hey - we care. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:31:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1Vtdi020341 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:31:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D1F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:28 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1VSS11299 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:28 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBP1VQGn024306 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224202636.030a3a08@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Christmas Eve In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>I can't tell how sincere that is. Thanks for the Christmas card, by the >>way. It just came today. --bonniev > >I was being very sincere. Your pain and discomfort and general ickiness >came thro' in your posts ... it's not a good feeling. --Rashmi Then I thank you again. We are soldiering on here. It is 54 degrees this Christmas Eve in Downeast Maine. It is raining. The wind is blowing. We are watching the George C. Scott version of Scrooge. Clyde is making Irish Coffee, made with Scotch tonight. We had our traditional Christmas Eve meal of steak and french fries. Back in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, we would sometimes grill the steak in the fireplace. By the way, the third cat, whose name you couldn't remember on the card, is Drusis. Xerxes, Drusis, and Sara, although Sara has no Christmas stocking this year, having donated it to the less fortunate -- a little stray cat in Wisconsin who has come in out of the cold and found an outside home with my friend Rose Ann. Merry Christmas Eve everyone and to all a good night. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:34:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1YZdi020364 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:34:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D1E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:34:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1Y8S11433 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:34:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A380@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:34:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200312250134.hBP1Y8S11433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:34:08 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:05:37 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: >At 02:52 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Well the ear infection/brain thing is possibly the stupidest >>thing I've ever heard. But I have vast experience with ear >>infections. > >Stick around. My guess is that we have yet to exhaustively plumb the >depths of KK's medical misinformation. > >cwv Ya know, I once was asked to come and talk to a couple of parents. Their kid had a little cold on Tuesday, on Weds had a 50/50 chance of living, and on Fri was deaf. Guess what? The URI crossed the meningeal membrane. I don't think it applies directly in Natalie's case, but it's strictly speaking a case in point. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:35:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1Zhdi020401 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:35:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A381@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1ZGS11513 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022A37C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312250135.hBP1ZGS11513@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: A Christmas Joke To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:08:04 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Three men died on Christmas eve and were met by >Saint Peter ar the pearly gates. > >"In honor of this holy season," Saint Peter said, "you >must each possess something that symbolizes >Christmas to get into heaven." > >The first man fumbled through his pockets and pulled out a lighter. >He flicked it on. "It represents a candle," he said. > >"You may pass through the pearly gates," Saint Peter said. > >The second man reached into his pocket and pulled out a >set of keys. He shook them and said, "They're bells." > >Saint Peter said "You may pass through the pearly gates." > >The third man started searching desperately through his pockets and >finally pulled out a pair of women's panties. > >St. Peter looked at the man with a raised eyebrow and asked, >"And just what do those symbolize?" > >The man replied, "They're Carol's." Yeah. My husband sends me that every year, and never remembers I've seen it before. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:36:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1aLdi020414 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022A34F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 304963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:54 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1ZsS11571 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225013549.FQVR1951.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA3EF5.2090607@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:35:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <200312250126.hBP1QZS10973@listserv.cc.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <200312250126.hBP1QZS10973@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > I don't recall anything about ear infections getting into the brain, > Natalie. I think you extended a comment abt ears being close to the > brain. Well, yes. My memory is that what she said was that ears are serious business because they are "close to the brain." What reason for mentioning brain proximity is there if she didn't mean that the brain could be affected? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:39:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1dadi020508 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:39:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D1F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:39:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:39:09 -0500 Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1d8S12083 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:39:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225013904.FRNA1951.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA3FB8.5060905@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:39:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Eve References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224202636.030a3a08@pop.gwi.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224202636.030a3a08@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > this year, having donated it to the less fortunate -- a little stray cat in > Wisconsin who has come in out of the cold and found an outside home with my > friend Rose Ann. Nobody knows where The White Dog is, btw. I saw the Pres of the Humane Society in Kroger today, and she said that he was very much present at graduation, meeting parents, etc., but hasn't been seen since. I'm wondering if some student managed to grab him and take him home. I hope so. > Merry Christmas Eve everyone and to all a good night. Is this online party ending? I guess I should set nomail tonight in case I forget tomorrow or the system fails or whatever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:52:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1qfdi020716 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:52:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D21F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:52:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:52:14 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1qDS12964 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225015208.ZUJS1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:52:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA42C9.1000404@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:52:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Crowded Planes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Remember the good old days when there were sometimes empty spaces on airplanes? I was just looking at the seating maps for my flights on this trip and see that the planes are jammed, as usual. Oh well. Crowded planes aren't as big a pain on short flights as on long ones. And I managed to get pretty good seats by choosing them well in advance. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:54:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1s9di020731 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:54:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D205@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:53:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1rgS13069 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:53:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022A399@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:53:41 -0500 Message-Id: <200312250153.hBP1rgS13069@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:53:41 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:35:49 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> I don't recall anything about ear infections getting into the brain, >> Natalie. I think you extended a comment abt ears being close to the >> brain. > >Well, yes. My memory is that what she said was that ears are serious >business because they are "close to the brain." What reason for >mentioning brain proximity is there if she didn't mean that the brain >could be affected? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Ears, and other sensory organs in the head, as well as the spine, have a lot of sensitive, delicate parts, as well as nerves leading directly to the brain. My brother was born with a tumor around the auditory and visual nerves - I was thinking abt this when you talked abt Chris, Lynne. Although his tumor was benign, it wasn't completely removable, and any mild infection swells and tightens around the nerves, affecting his eyesight and hearing. I can't speak for Karen; she may have had meningitis in mind - or she may have been thinking about sensory nerve damage - no way of knowing. Ear infections can result in tinnitus (which the people on the list who have, will tell you is not trivial at all, but madness-inducing, like having a live spider dancing in your throat), or in permanent hearing loss - which your temporary bout of is teaching you is NO FUN. Anyway. Here's hoping yours is better soon! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:55:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP1tgdi020744 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:55:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D224@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:55:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:55:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP1tFS13307 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:55:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A3A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:55:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200312250155.hBP1tFS13307@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:55:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Crowded Planes To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:52:09 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Remember the good old days when there were sometimes empty spaces on >airplanes? I was just looking at the seating maps for my flights on >this trip and see that the planes are jammed, as usual. Oh well. >Crowded planes aren't as big a pain on short flights as on long ones. >And I managed to get pretty good seats by choosing them well in advance. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Bon voyage! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2Cpdi021076 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:12:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D220@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:24 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP2CNS14801 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A3BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200312250212.hBP2CNS14801@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:12:23 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Preparations To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:38:26 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Rita Chapman wrote: > >>>> LOL. The butter is melting as I type. >>> >>> YES! >> >> I'm deeply flattered that Clyde would be excited over >> anything *I* cook. > >It's hard to screw up butter -- although I guess it's possible. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Our festivities are essentially over. V's family Saturday, mine today at my sister's farm. Mom roasted the turkey; I had borrowed Anna's 4 & 7 yr old yesterday to bake cookies. Sides were simple since we always have a potluck. It was a half-gathering; only 14 people. Each kid is receiving one present in the am, there is no tree, no stockings, but nobody seems bothered. We expect to go to LOTRIII tomorrow after Mercy gets on a plane to Germany. Aaron is cooking "coke beef" - a version of something like bulgogi that he learned from my Japanese SIL. Then it's catching up at work, or driving to SC, depending on Mom and Aunt Tia. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:19:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2Jfdi021227 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D227@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:19:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:19:13 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2JDS15182 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:19:13 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:07 PST Message-ID: <20031225021907.82224.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:19:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000601c3ca51$95241f00$c3235b82@ular.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > I am sure we define a deli as much different. I > think of a deli as a place > with Jewish foods,fresh meats,cheeses,bagels, lox > and breads. If you mean corned beef, pastrami, liverwurst, other wursts, all manner of cheeses,wonderful breads, yep, we have delis. But you'd probably have to go to a larger city for fresh lox or gefilte fish. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:27:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2RVdi021377 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:27:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D25B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:27:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:27:03 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2R3S15791 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:27:03 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:26:58 PST Message-ID: <20031225022658.62704.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas plans run amok To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin wrote: > IaWL is a shitty movie. Period, full stop, finis. > > I have spoken. > > That is all. T.S., I'm, reporting you to Adam if you are going to impersonate Richard, as well as various other "characters". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:28:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2Sjdi021387 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:28:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D254@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:28:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:28:18 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2SIS15875 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:28:18 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:28:12 PST Message-ID: <20031225022812.61399.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:28:12 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- mene tekel parsin > I hope you used Pam. > > -- > Richard, used a whole can to make hollandaise Egad!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:29:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2Ttdi021406 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:29:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022A3DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:29:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:28:42 -0500 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP2SgS15906 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:28:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.187]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225022836.YBJA1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:28:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEA4B55.8010007@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:28:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Going Nomail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU See some of y'all Saturday -- 6:30 -- Red Cat. I wasn't sure what to make of Alan's note earlier tonight -- like what the plan had been earlier that was going to enable both of them to come and what changed. I thought there would be followup explanations/discussion, but now I must go nomail and then chug various medicines and then go to bed and then wake up and then scrape ice off of car and then drive to Tupelo. Tracfone: 662-242-0723 Hotel phone: 212-247-3900 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:31:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2VGdi021440 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D25E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:30:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:30:48 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2UmS16125 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:30:48 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:30:43 PST Message-ID: <20031225023043.9905.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:30:43 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Going Nomail To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEA4B55.8010007@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > See some of y'all Saturday -- 6:30 -- Red Cat. I > wasn't sure what to > make of Alan's note earlier tonight -- like what the > plan had been > earlier that was going to enable both of them to > come and what changed. > I thought there would be followup > explanations/discussion, but now I > must go nomail and then chug various medicines and > then go to bed and > then wake up and then scrape ice off of car and then > drive to Tupelo. > > Tracfone: 662-242-0723 > Hotel phone: 212-247-3900 Be careful and Merry Christmas. You will be missed by those of us "left behind". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:31:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2Vudi021445 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:31:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D256@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:31:28 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2VSS16183 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:31:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:31:23 PST Message-ID: <20031225023123.59119.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:31:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: A Christmas Joke To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <001301c3ca6a$67beaf80$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Three men died on Christmas eve and were met by > Saint Peter ar the pearly gates. > > "In honor of this holy season," Saint Peter said, > "you > must each possess something that symbolizes > Christmas to get into heaven." > > The first man fumbled through his pockets and pulled > out a lighter. > He flicked it on. "It represents a candle," he > said. > > "You may pass through the pearly gates," Saint Peter > said. > > The second man reached into his pocket and pulled > out a > set of keys. He shook them and said, "They're > bells." > > Saint Peter said "You may pass through the pearly > gates." > > The third man started searching desperately through > his pockets and > finally pulled out a pair of women's panties. > > St. Peter looked at the man with a raised eyebrow > and asked, > "And just what do those symbolize?" > > The man replied, "They're Carol's." I likes it :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:33:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2Xgdi021495 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:33:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D257@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:33:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:33:14 -0500 Received: from web60704.mail.yahoo.com (web60704.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2XES16342 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:33:14 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:33:09 PST Message-ID: <20031225023309.59398.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173944.00b5aaa8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > LOL. The butter is melting as I type. > > YES! I cannot conceive of using Pam in making any sauce. How would that be done, and in such quantity? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:35:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2ZDdi021549 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:35:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:34:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:34:45 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP2YjS16407 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:34:45 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBP2YirU021163 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:34:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FEA4C6B.9070307@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:33:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <200312250134.hBP1Y8S11433@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > Ya know, I once was asked to come and talk to a couple of parents. Their > kid had a little cold on Tuesday, on Weds had a 50/50 chance of living, > and on Fri was deaf. Guess what? The URI crossed the meningeal membrane. > > I don't think it applies directly in Natalie's case, but it's strictly > speaking a case in point. Keep up those cheerful thoughts, Clo! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:43:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2hJdi021696 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:43:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 305906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:42:51 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2gpS16784 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:42:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:42:46 PST Message-ID: <20031225024246.22776.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:42:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEA3145.6020105@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Lynne Weber wrote: > > > Alec, you really should come to the Sucky South > more > > often. Yes, it's true, there are delis, Alec. > > Alec was in Starkville for GoatRoast'94. But we > didn't explore the > town's offerings except for breakfast at the > Starkville Cafe (a > biscuits-and-gravy kind of place) and the bbq we had > at the roast. Well, 10 years is a long time, and lot can change, even in the Sucky South. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:56:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2uPdi021918 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:56:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022A3CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:55:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:55:57 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2tuS17741 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:55:56 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:55:51 PST Message-ID: <20031225025551.53307.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:55:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEA3233.4080006@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I'm confused. The menu above is what you are NOT > having? Yes - that is, that is what we did not have. Chris can actually eat shrimp, so he had steamed jumbo shrimp with hot cocktail sauce (don't ask, I don't know how his throat can take it, but the more horseradish and hot sauce, the better), and I had lobster tail with lemon butter (not Pam) and we both had applesauce cake with cream cheese frosting. > > > No alcohol, more's the pity. And we'll just have > to > > make do with what will slide down Chris' throat. > To > > Happier Days! > > Yes, I'll drink to that. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:57:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP2vxdi021931 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:57:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D268@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:57:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:57:31 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP2vVS17823 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:57:31 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:57:25 PST Message-ID: <20031225025725.39610.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:57:25 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Missing Spencer To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > I sure miss Spencer. > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Sometimes when we travel, I want to come home early to pick the dog(s) up. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 21:01:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP31Mdi022039 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:01:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022A3DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:00:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:00:54 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP30NS18057 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:00:23 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:00:18 PST Message-ID: <20031225030018.40142.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas Eve To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224202636.030a3a08@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- bonniev wrote: > Merry Christmas Eve everyone and to all a good > night. Merry Christmas, bonniev, Clyde, and cats. Thank you for the part of this year I was able to spend with y'all. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 21:16:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP3Gvdi022313 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:16:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D29F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:29 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP3GTS19697 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBP3GP5B050282; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224220435.00b4e630@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:09:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <3FEA2AD8.5050704@swbell.net> References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173944.00b5aaa8@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:10 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm deeply flattered that Clyde would be excited over >anything *I* cook. I'm really not into flattering people, where flattering=insincere praise. However, anybody who would choose butter over (retch) Pam is OK is my book. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 21:16:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP3Gxdi022317 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:16:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8D28D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:31 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP3GUS19702 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:30 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-153-84.gwi.net [216.195.153.84]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBP3GP5D050282; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031224221148.00b6b0f0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:16:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:20 PM 12/24/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >bonniev: > > >Awww, poor baby! > >>I can't tell how sincere that is. Thanks for the Christmas card, by the >>way. It just came today. > >I was being very sincere. Your pain and discomfort and general ickiness >came thro' in your posts ... it's not a good feeling. We appreciated your card. At the risk of overoptimism, Bonnie seems a little bit better. If she can get some good rest tonight and survive tomorrow, she ought to be OK. However, like your situation, it's likely to be a long haul. Whatever viruses are going around this year, be they flu or common (uncommon?) cold, they seem to be tough customers. Happy holidays to all, and to all a good night. And Natalie--have a good flight. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 21:32:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP3Wddi022531 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:32:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D2BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:32:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 306783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:32:11 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP3WAS21008 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:32:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:32:05 PST Message-ID: <20031225033205.47585.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Holiday Wishes To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU To all who are celebrating this season, in whatever way, and are signing off early, Happy, Safe, and Healthful holidays. Acording to legend, all animals speak at midnight on Christmas Eve, but they won't do so if humans are listening. This could be a blessing or a curse. Oh, and don't forget to leave the frozen broccoli out for Santa. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 22:06:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP46ldi023301 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:06:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022A5F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:06:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 310905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:06:16 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP46FS25895 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:06:16 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBP46ETB001170 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEA61DD.9000900@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:04:45 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations References: <3FE9BF49.8070209@swbell.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224173944.00b5aaa8@pop.gwi.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031224220435.00b4e630@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:10 PM 12/24/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > I'm deeply flattered that Clyde would be excited over > >> anything *I* cook. > > > I'm really not into flattering people, where flattering=insincere > praise. However, anybody who would choose butter over (retch) Pam is OK is > my book. Butter or olive oil. NEVER Pam. There's a reason I'm a hippie chick. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 22:42:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP4gwdi023872 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:42:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8D570@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:42:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 312282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:42:30 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBP4gTS29001 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:42:30 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:42:24 PST Message-ID: <20031225044224.43895.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:42:24 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Preparations To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEA61DD.9000900@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > Butter or olive oil. NEVER Pam. > > > I have always maintained that if I can't see cholesterol, it doesn't exist. After all, it doesn't think, so far as I know. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Dec 24 23:31:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBP5Vpdi024703 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:31:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8D75B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 0:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 315092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:31:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f66.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBP5VLS01459 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:31:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 21:31:16 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.65 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 05:31:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.65] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Preparations Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 05:31:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 05:31:16.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[512F59C0:01C3CAA8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >NPR is broadcasting Lessons & Carols from King's College. >It's really lovely. I grew up listening to this on Christmas Eve and it's such a blast from the past when I listen to it now. I didn't catch it this year. Merry Christmas, everybody! _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 06:25:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPCPbdi000720 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:25:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022AB9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 7:25:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 322716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:25:05 -0500 Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPCP5S11520 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:25:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([68.19.129.216]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031225122500.CMDE1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:25:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEAD71C.50505@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:25:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Merry Christmas! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Merry Christmas! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 08:17:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPEHsdi002503 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:17:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DC5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 9:17:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 324088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:17:21 -0500 Received: from fe3.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPEHLS16198 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:17:21 -0500 Received: from [136.167.17.27] (HELO bc.edu) by fe3.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 39159166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:17:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3FEAF16E.1060208@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:17:18 -0500 From: Rita Leonard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merry Christmas! References: <3FEAD71C.50505@maynor.net> In-Reply-To: <3FEAD71C.50505@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Merry Christmas! > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The same to you and to all wordslers! Have a safe trip Natalie. Rita L. From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 08:53:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPErBdi003051 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:53:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DC73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 9:52:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 324348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:52:38 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPEqbS17483 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:52:37 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPEqaW1023839 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:52:36 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPEqYWq023823; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:52:35 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031225065402.00bb3220@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:55:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <20031225025551.53307.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FEA3233.4080006@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:55 PM 12/24/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > I'm confused. The menu above is what you are NOT > > having? > >Yes - that is, that is what we did not have. Chris >can actually eat shrimp, so he had steamed jumbo >shrimp with hot cocktail sauce (don't ask, I don't >know how his throat can take it, but the more >horseradish and hot sauce, the better), and I had >lobster tail with lemon butter (not Pam) and we both >had applesauce cake with cream cheese frosting. This sounds good to me! Screw tradition. Hope this year improves for both of you. Enjoy right now. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 08:53:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPErtdi003060 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:53:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DC74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 9:53:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 324356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:53:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPErMS17510 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:53:22 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPErK2f028924 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:53:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPErHJC028911; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:53:18 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031225065538.00bb5770@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:56:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Missing Spencer In-Reply-To: <20031225025725.39610.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:57 PM 12/24/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I sure miss Spencer. > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >Sometimes when we travel, I want to come home early to >pick the dog(s) up. Freedom is no kids, no pets, and the house is paid for! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 08:55:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPEtXdi003084 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:55:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DC64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 9:55:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 324378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:55:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPEt0S17560 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:55:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPEsx2f029462 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:54:59 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPEsvJC029448; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:54:58 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031225065723.00bbacc0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 06:57:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Merry Christmas! In-Reply-To: <3FEAD71C.50505@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:25 AM 12/25/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Merry Christmas! >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Have a wonderful time in New York! Wish I could be there and here, too. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 09:28:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPFSsdi003552 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:28:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022AC99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:28:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 324677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:28:14 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPFSES18799 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:28:14 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBPFSCRp025161 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:28:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3cafb$e0894380$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031225065538.00bb5770@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Missing Spencer Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:29:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 06:57 PM 12/24/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >--- Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I sure miss Spencer. > > > -- > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > >Sometimes when we travel, I want to come home early to > >pick the dog(s) up. > > Freedom is no kids, no pets, and the house is paid for! > > Betty Freedom for me has been all of the above, plus no regular social commitments and no memberships in organizations. My calendar is free. I go to lunch when I feel like going to lunch, not because it is the third Tuesday or the first Wednesday. I am not in danger of being elected to any kind of post. I pay no dues. I do my yawning in my easy chair at night, not in meetings. Whee. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:10:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGAidi004269 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:10:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022ACBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:10:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:10:10 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGA2S20569 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:10:10 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBPGA0kF030261 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:10:00 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBPGA0qj030252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:10:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:10:00 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: and if you can't decide Message-ID: <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman: = I poked around a little bit, and I declare this page an = Official Fest Page! He has lots of good St. Louisey stuff = on it. Nice work, Steph. = = steph wrote: = = >http://keaggy.com/dinner/ = > Thanks Rita. Dumb luck it was. I didn't even know/notice that this guy was in St. Louis. Santa brought me a European bird handbook so I can identify what's flying around, and a Leatherman tool for Patrick. I'm beginning to regret my ambitious dinner and so am procrastinating. It won't be so bad once I get started. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:15:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGFidi004343 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:15:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DCB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:15:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:15:10 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGFAS20746 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:15:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBPGF8Rp002052 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:15:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3cb02$6ec9d500$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: and if you can't decide Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:16:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Rita Chapman: > = I poked around a little bit, and I declare this page an > = Official Fest Page! He has lots of good St. Louisey stuff > = on it. Nice work, Steph. > = > = steph wrote: > = > = >http://keaggy.com/dinner/ > = > > > Thanks Rita. Dumb luck it was. I didn't even know/notice that > this guy was in St. Louis. > > Santa brought me a European bird handbook so I can identify > what's flying around, and a Leatherman tool for Patrick. > > I'm beginning to regret my ambitious dinner and so am > procrastinating. It won't be so bad once I get started. > Get going. You'll have fun. Merry Xmas! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:23:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGNRdi004539 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:23:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DCB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:54 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGMrS21066 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:54 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBPGMn5B087122; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225110822.00b33ec8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:12:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Freedom In-Reply-To: <000401c3cafb$e0894380$99cadece@0018079268> References: <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20031225065538.00bb5770@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:29 AM 12/25/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Freedom for me has been all of the above, >plus no regular social commitments and no >memberships in organizations. My >calendar is free. I go to lunch when I feel >like going to lunch, not because it is the third >Tuesday or the first Wednesday. I am not in >danger of being elected to any kind of post. >I pay no dues. I do my yawning in my easy >chair at night, not in meetings. Whee. Well, we do have cats and in a way I belong to organizations/pay dues---to things like The Nature Conservancy and the Farnsworth Museum. I remember the feeling of freedom/closure when I took the last load of professional journals and communications to the recycling center. And every time (not often) that I am tempted to volunteer for some board or other, I remind myself that just because you can doesn't mean you have to. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:45:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGjtdi004976 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:45:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DCE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:45:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:45:21 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGjLS22089 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:45:21 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBPGjJGn053627 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:45:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225114516.00b31420@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:45:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Missing Spencer In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031225065538.00bb5770@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <20031225025725.39610.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Freedom is no kids, no pets, and the house is paid for! >Betty "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." -- Janis Joplin bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:51:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGpNdi005011 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:51:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DCDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:50:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:50:50 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f60.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGonS22266 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:50:49 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:50:44 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:50:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: Inhaler question Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:50:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 16:50:44.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CCDDD80:01C3CB07] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been using inhalers for years, for asthma. It's impossible to tell anything from the question as posed; what kind of inhaler is it? That is, can you describe the physical structure of the inhaler? There are various delivery mechanisms, and there are some aspects of inhaler use that aren't intuitive, though your doctor or pharmacist should have explained those. >From: bonniev >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Inhaler question >Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:05:18 -0500 > >Have any of you ever used an inhaler? There seems to be something I'm not >getting about this. I try to follow the directions but all I seem to do is >spray a little mist onto the top of my mouth or onto my tongue. Isn't it >supposed to get to my throat? I really don't see how this can do much >good. > >bonnie _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:54:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGsddi005055 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:54:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DCF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:05 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGs5S22410 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:05 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBPGs3Gn054087 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225115354.00b5ecb8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You're a day late and a dollar short, Marty. This topic has been adequately covered. Merry Christmas! >I've been using inhalers for years, for asthma. It's impossible to tell >anything from the question as posed; what kind of inhaler is it? That is, >can you describe the physical structure of the inhaler? There are various >delivery mechanisms, and there are some aspects of inhaler use that aren't >intuitive, though your doctor or pharmacist should have explained those. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:56:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGurdi005102 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:56:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DCFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:56:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:56:19 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGuIS22471 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:56:19 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id F290D2B57D; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E408A2B56A for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Old Christmas lights Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Attention Attention Old Farts: See the lights of your childhood at http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/the_light_sets.htm Merry Christmas, don't mean to seem ungrateful but I wish this day were over. Ann Reluctant Hostess From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 10:57:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPGvhdi005117 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:57:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DD04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:57:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:57:09 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f42.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGv8S22516 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:57:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:57:03 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:57:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:57:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 16:57:03.0349 (UTC) FILETIME=[1ECDDA50:01C3CB08] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > >Stick around. My guess is that we have yet to exhaustively plumb the >depths of KK's medical misinformation. Uh HUH _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:00:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPH0Adi005222 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:00:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:59:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:59:37 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f26.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPGxaS22604 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:59:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:59:31 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:59:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: RE: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:59:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 16:59:31.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[76F54BF0:01C3CB08] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You've forgotten about the most important thing: American exceptionalism. Last year, the U.S. was quick to ban imports of Canadian cattle when a mad cow was discovered north of the border. But this U.S. cow is no reason to be concerned because, well, just because. >From: Natalie Maynor >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Where Will the Blood Come From? >Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 18:42:56 -0600 > >People who've lived in England can't give blood (in the US) because of >MC Disease. So now that MC Disease is here, will people who've lived in >the US not be able to give blood either? >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPH3Udi005283 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:03:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:02:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:02:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f45.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPH2uS22809 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:02:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:02:50 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:02:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:02:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 17:02:50.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED7D61E0:01C3CB08] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just wanted to point out that you should be careful with your inhaler because one's mouth is, or should be, close to one's brain, even though the relationship between the two is often no more than distant cousinship. >From: bonniev >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Inhaler question >Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:30 -0500 > >You're a day late and a dollar short, Marty. This topic has been >adequately covered. Merry Christmas! > > > >>I've been using inhalers for years, for asthma. It's impossible to tell >>anything from the question as posed; what kind of inhaler is it? That is, >>can you describe the physical structure of the inhaler? There are various >>delivery mechanisms, and there are some aspects of inhaler use that aren't >>intuitive, though your doctor or pharmacist should have explained those. > >bonnie _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:06:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPH62di005347 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:06:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DD18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:05:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:05:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f18.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPH5SS22937 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:05:28 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:05:22 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:05:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:05:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 17:05:22.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[484C9AF0:01C3CB09] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Inhaler question >Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:54:30 -0500 > >You're a day late and a dollar short, Marty. This topic has been >adequately covered. Merry Christmas! And by the way, frohiliche schadenfreude! _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:22:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPHMNdi005567 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DD11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:21:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:21:50 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPHLnS23772 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:21:49 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBPHLlGn055769 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:21:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225122136.00b9ef60@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:22:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Caution accepted. I wouldn't want my brain to suddenly open up wide so that any ole thing could get planted there. >I just wanted to point out that you should be careful with your inhaler >because one's mouth is, or should be, close to one's brain, even though the >relationship between the two is often no more than distant cousinship. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:23:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPHNfdi005584 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:23:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DD12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:23:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 325984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:23:07 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPHN7S23872 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:23:07 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBPHN5Rp006821 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:23:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3cb0b$ecb6fd40$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:24:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU AM Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? > You've forgotten about the most important thing: American exceptionalism. > Last year, the U.S. was quick to ban imports of Canadian cattle when a mad > cow was discovered north of the border. But this U.S. cow is no reason to > be concerned because, well, just because. Don't know why you say that, except that you are just being Marty. Of course it is a reason to be concerned, and of course other countries are banning our meat just as we did theirs. Here's a coincidence for you . . MCD can stand for Mad Cow Disease but it's also the symbol for McDonalds. Oooh, the're gonna be hurt. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:25:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPHPMdi005609 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:24:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:24:48 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPHOlS23917 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:24:47 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBPHO4w7017626 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:24:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEB1D04.8050408@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:23:16 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: and if you can't decide References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Santa brought me a European bird handbook so I can identify > what's flying around, and a Leatherman tool for Patrick. Fun! I'm going to get a field guide one of these days. I had one from the library for a few weeks this summer. I recommend a little collection of essays called _The Verb 'To Bird'_. Kevin got a mini-leatherman (I bought him the real thing years and years ago) that he can put on his boat keychain for those unexpected repairs... plus some other junk. I got a pearl necklace and pearl drop earrings, and some books. Ana got several snazzy outfits, lots of Breyers, a brush set for real horses, and all kinds of assorted stuff. The dogs got rawhide bones, which Vinnie found and opened before Christmas ;). > I'm beginning to regret my ambitious dinner and so am > procrastinating. It won't be so bad once I get started. I've been thinking about those stuffed dates all day. I need to make those. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:47:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPHlDdi006120 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:47:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:46:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:46:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law15-f59.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPHkcS24969 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:46:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:46:33 -0800 Received: from 64.253.100.117 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:46:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.253.100.117] X-Originating-Email: [meeberphobia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: meeberphobia@hotmail.com From: "Marty Rosen" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:46:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 17:46:33.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[08DDD6D0:01C3CB0F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland You've forgotten about the most important thing: American exceptionalism. > > Last year, the U.S. was quick to ban imports of Canadian cattle when a >mad > > cow was discovered north of the border. But this U.S. cow is no >reason to > > be concerned because, well, just because. > >Don't know why you say that, except that you >are just being Marty. Of course it is a reason >to be concerned, and of course other countries >are banning our meat just as we did theirs. It seems to be my destiny to just be Marty. But I say this because I am enjoying the hypocrisy of the American beef industry. For much of the last year they fought tooth and nail to ensure that Canadian beef doesn't enter the U.S. This has driven up U.S. beef prices by about 30% and led to what amount to windfall profits in the meat industry. Yesterday, the same folks, were protesting that U.S. beef is perfectly safe, and that we should all eat with perfect sanguinity (which makes a nice little play on words, I think). This is what I mean by American exceptionalism. In fact, there's little difference between the risks of BSE in the U.S. and Canada. In an environment where the U.S. regularly violates trade agreements with other nations, I think we can expect to see swift retribution, now that other nations see an opportunity. By the way, if the Canadian experience is illustrative, cattle farmers in the U.S. are in for a year or more of devastation. _________________________________________________________________ Get reliable dial-up Internet access now with our limited-time introductory offer. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 11:51:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPHpPdi006147 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:51:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:50:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:50:51 -0500 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPHooS25225 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:50:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CD09725B for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:50:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19649-01 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:50:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (unknown [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45E497312 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:50:47 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3FEB2313.10308@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:49:07 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en,Estonian (Et) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: and if you can't decide References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> In-Reply-To: <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: >= >http://keaggy.com/dinner/ >= > > >Thanks Rita. Dumb luck it was. I didn't even know/notice that >this guy was in St. Louis. > >Santa brought me a European bird handbook so I can identify >what's flying around, and a Leatherman tool for Patrick. > >I'm beginning to regret my ambitious dinner > Steph, you almost startled me! I was on the verge of thinking you've given up vegetarianism - talking of bird handbook in the midst of the dinner topic. Ooh! Sorry! (Perhaps it's not wise to tell you with the same breath what I cooked for Christmas...) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:05:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPI5Adi006363 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:05:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DD60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:04:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:04:36 -0500 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPI4ZS25925 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:04:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4BE97F43; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:04:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20393-09; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:04:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (unknown [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A7097CAA; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:04:32 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3FEB264B.5070006@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:02:51 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en,Estonian (Et) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristin Sarv Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers References: <20031224131503.A90C49726A@mail.edu.ee> In-Reply-To: <20031224131503.A90C49726A@mail.edu.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: >reading messages in the archives now and then) > Well, you did it! All of you posting, and answering my message. Yesterday before leaving the computer I sent 'set-mail'-message to the list server. Today, together with reading the messages in my mailbox I also keep the archives open - to have a look at messages I've missed if I do not understand some point. I downloaded new Netscape version a few days ago, and besides its good points there's a bad thing, too. Namely, the computer got very slow. Even when typing a message I sometimes have to wait until the words will be seen on the screen. I hope somebody will help me to solve the problem at some time after Christmas. And now there's a strange thing I can see at the top of the window of this message, i.e. where the address is: it says, "To: Kristin.Sarv@..." and, "Cc: WORDS-L@...". ??? I wonder how it'll be shown when the message arrives. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:11:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIBEdi006488 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:11:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022AD70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:10:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIAXS26446 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:10:33 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C4097F41; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:10:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21240-04; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:10:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (unknown [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBABA97703; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:10:30 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3FEB27B2.208@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:08:50 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en,Estonian (Et) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristin Sarv Cc: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Xmas Card for Wordslers References: <20031224131503.A90C49726A@mail.edu.ee> <3FEB264B.5070006@akad.ee> In-Reply-To: <3FEB264B.5070006@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > address is: it says, "To: Kristin.Sarv@..." and, "Cc: WORDS-L@...". > ??? I wonder how it'll be shown when the message arrives. No, I do not like it! I must choose "reply all" when answering this. While earlier just "reply" would've done. Whereas the message I just sent as a reply to Steph's automatically had the good old way of picking up the right address of the list. :( Kr. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:16:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIGRdi006550 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:16:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DD83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:15:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:15:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIFrS26922 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:15:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022AD45@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:15:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200312251815.hBPIFrS26922@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:15:53 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:33:15 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> Ya know, I once was asked to come and talk to a couple of parents. Their >> kid had a little cold on Tuesday, on Weds had a 50/50 chance of living, >> and on Fri was deaf. Guess what? The URI crossed the meningeal membrane. >> >> I don't think it applies directly in Natalie's case, but it's strictly >> speaking a case in point. > > > Keep up those cheerful thoughts, Clo! > You know, I thought of you when I wrote this, Rita. It seems odd to me that I have such an automated reaction to "it never happens" - I seem compelled to say "well actually I knew of a case where" - even when I don't care and know that no one else does either. I guess I live in a universe heavily populated by exceptions to the rule. Maybe Forrest Gump, while it irritates me almost as much as "Shoshona", is an appellation I should learn to live with. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:20:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIKkdi006676 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:20:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DD73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:20:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:20:12 -0500 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIKCS27284 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:20:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1F597F4A for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:20:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21707-10 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:20:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (unknown [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF6497F49 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:20:09 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3FEB29F5.9060806@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:18:29 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en,Estonian (Et) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A Christmas Joke References: <001301c3ca6a$67beaf80$99cadece@0018079268> In-Reply-To: <001301c3ca6a$67beaf80$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >The man replied, "They're Carol's." > :-) So much about listening to my favourite Christmas CD... Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:26:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIQKdi006789 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:26:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DD79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:25:45 -0500 Received: from loyno.edu (nadal.loyno.edu [141.164.24.217]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIPjS27755 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:25:45 -0500 Received: from neo1 (neo1 [141.164.24.217]) by loyno.edu (8.12.9/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBPIPebV7577796 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:25:40 -0600 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:25:40 -0600 (CST) From: mene tekel parsin X-X-Sender: rjscheid@neo1 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations In-Reply-To: <20031225023309.59398.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031225023309.59398.qmail@web60704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.1.1.86173 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne: > I cannot conceive of using Pam in making any sauce. > How would that be done, and in such quantity? For that information, you would have to consult David Sedaris's brother. I have no experience in the matter. -- Richard From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:33:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIXEdi006967 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:33:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:32:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIWdS28438 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:32:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022AD5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:32:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200312251832.hBPIWdS28438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:32:39 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Old Christmas lights To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:56:17 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >Attention Attention Old Farts: See the lights of your childhood at >http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/the_light_sets.htm > >Merry Christmas, don't mean to seem ungrateful but I wish this day were >over. > >Ann >Reluctant Hostess I, on the other hand, have campaigned for years to forget Christmas - but now that we've had this quiet day I am thoroughly bored, and so it's lucky we are going to the cinema in an hour to watch LOTR. Mercy is in at the airport waiting for her flight to leave. I'm abt to go make pizza. Merry Christmas to all! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:35:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIZ9di006996 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:35:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DD96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:34:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 326949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:34:35 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBPIOZS27643 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:24:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 38721 invoked by uid 1003); 25 Dec 2003 18:24:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:24:34 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Missing Spencer Message-ID: <20031225182434.GA35796@words-l.org> References: <20031225025725.39610.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> <3FEA32E5.1090001@maynor.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031225114516.00b31420@pop.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225114516.00b31420@pop.gwi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 11:45:46AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > >Freedom is no kids, no pets, and the house is paid for! > >Betty > > "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." -- Janis Joplin It was Kris Kristofferson From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:35:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIZHdi007000 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:35:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DD9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:34:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:34:43 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIYgS28648 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:34:42 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBPIYdRp028324 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:34:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:35:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It seems to be my destiny to just be Marty. But I say this because I am > enjoying the hypocrisy of the American beef industry. For much of the last > year they fought tooth and nail to ensure that Canadian beef doesn't enter > the U.S. This has driven up U.S. beef prices by about 30% and led to what > amount to windfall profits in the meat industry. You might also mention the boon to the industry created by the wide use of the Atkins diet. I think this is a larger factor. Yesterday, the same folks, > were protesting that U.S. beef is perfectly safe, > > I think it highly likely that our U. S. beef supply is safe. I have questioned for a long time the safety of meat we import because some countries do not have the strict inspections systems they should have. And I think it's time more attention is given to the safety of vegetables we import. This does not mean I think we should not import vegetables, but we should not import unsafe unclean vegetables. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:45:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIj3di007091 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:45:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DDA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:44:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:44:28 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIiSS29157 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:44:28 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBPIiQRp013215 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:44:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001501c3cb17$4ef6f680$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200312251832.hBPIWdS28438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Old Christmas lights Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:45:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I, on the other hand, have campaigned for years to forget Christmas - > clo I also have campaigned for years to forget Christmas. When I think of the time and money involved, the worry and concerns, the physical and mental exhaustion, the confusion, the WORK. Oh phooey. I think I wouldn't mind pretending for a day that we live in a log cabin or a sod house . . going into the woods to cut our own tree . . exchanging a few handmade gifts . . sharing a good meal. But NO, we must spend a lot of money to give people things they may or may not need and probably don't want or won't use, when if we all quit doing that everyone would have money to buy for himself the things he needs and we'd all be happier. Bah humbug. It will never happen in my time. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:45:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPIj8di007095 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:45:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DDA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIiXS29162 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:44:33 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBPIiVTB020531 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:44:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEB2FB4.5090102@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:43:00 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > You might also mention the boon to the industry > created by the wide use of the Atkins diet. > I think this is a larger factor. I wonder how many people are actually really on that diet at any given time. And I wonder how much of it is offset by the large number of people choosing vegetarianism these days. When I was a kid, you hardly ever heard of a vegetarian. Now, every other person I know is one. > Yesterday, the same folks, > >>were protesting that U.S. beef is perfectly safe, > > >> > > I think it highly likely that our U. S. beef supply > is safe. I have questioned for a long time the > safety of meat we import because some countries > do not have the strict inspections systems they > should have. I don't think our meat supply is terribly safe. They're always recalling the stuff. I read that if they did nothing more than feed cows a natural grass diet (as opposed to corn) a few days before slaughter, we'd cut the e. coli problem drastically. We cause our own problems. Just let the goddamned things be cows. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 12:48:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPImhdi007204 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:48:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DD99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:48:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:48:09 -0500 Received: from mail.edu.ee (mail.edu.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPIm8S29410 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:48:08 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC29E97F52 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:48:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.edu.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.edu.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24042-01 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:48:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from akad.ee (unknown [193.40.40.70]) by mail.edu.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D8D977B9 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:48:06 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3FEB307F.9080200@akad.ee> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:46:23 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en,Estonian (Et) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Holiday Wishes References: <20031225033205.47585.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031225033205.47585.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at edu.ee Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lynne Weber wrote: >To all who are celebrating this season, in whatever >way, and are signing off early, Happy, Safe, and >Healthful holidays. Acording to legend, all animals >speak at midnight on Christmas Eve, but they won't do >so if humans are listening. This could be a blessing >or a curse. > >Oh, and don't forget to leave the frozen broccoli out >for Santa. > :) These are very nice wishes to everybody but Santa, I'm afraid. Well, of course I may melt broccoli, and sure our guinea pig becomes eloquent enough, be it day or night, Christmas or Midsummer. Bye for tonight. (I'm tired of waiting for opening of each message for half a minute with this slow computer ) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 13:24:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPJOBdi007897 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:24:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DDCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327535 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:23:37 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPJNaS30949 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:23:36 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBPJNYRp009544 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:23:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c3cb1c$c68da400$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> <3FEB2FB4.5090102@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:24:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > You might also mention the boon to the industry > > created by the wide use of the Atkins diet. > > I think this is a larger factor. > > > I wonder how many people are actually really on that diet at > any given time. And I wonder how much of it is offset by > the large number of people choosing vegetarianism these > days. When I was a kid, you hardly ever heard of a > vegetarian. Now, every other person I know is one. I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but don't remember. I know that in my own experience I am hearing people all around me talk about their Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. The Atkins thing is probably very temporary, however, and will pass. Those who go veg probably continue veg. > > I don't think our meat supply is terribly safe. They're > always recalling the stuff. I read that if they did nothing > more than feed cows a natural grass diet (as opposed to > corn) a few days before slaughter, we'd cut the e. coli > problem drastically. We cause our own problems. Just let > the goddamned things be cows. Two or three thoughts come to mind: A few years ago when there was a particularly scary case of e. coli, it was traced to uninspected meat from New Zealand. We must not assume that all meat in our stores is our own inspected meat, without checking labels. When you think of the enormous amounts of meat consumed every day in this country, the reports of anything contaminated are very very few. Re grass: You will find less and less of it. Our meadows have been plowed up and planted. Such a shame. We can be glad that when some questionable meat has been found we have systems that can trace the origin of the animal and the routing of its products. You will hear more and more about an industry out here that puts chips into the ears of each animal with all its history, allowing them to be followed from birth to death. - D. M. > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 13:30:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPJUIdi007962 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:30:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DDC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:29:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:29:43 -0500 Received: from web60703.mail.yahoo.com (web60703.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBPJThS31272 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:29:43 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:29:38 PST Message-ID: <20031225192938.6705.qmail@web60703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:29:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Merry Christmas! To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEAD71C.50505@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Merry Christmas! When you see this upon your return, you will have had a glorious trip, an especially festive time with your friends at the Red Cat, and left your ear problems in the Big Apple. Welcome back! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 13:33:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPJXHdi007986 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:33:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DDE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:32:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:32:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPJWgS31429 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:32:42 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBPJWd59097285 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:32:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225140942.00b33ac8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:15:24 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Preparations II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is a bit after 2 pm, 46F, with a steady rain. (It is 45F at Fort Kent, ME, way, way north of here.) It was a little warmer before the rain started. Bizarre month---two significant snowfalls, single-digit days and nights, howling winds, and now this. They say that we could wake up to a slight amount (1 inch) of snow in the morning. The goose is in the oven and the bailing of the grease has begun. Bonnie has the creme brulee done and the dough for the rolls is on the rise. Back to the oven. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 13:46:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPJkHdi008144 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:46:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DDEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:45:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 327799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:45:43 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPJjgS31936 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:45:42 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBPJje57098083 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:45:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225144342.00b9e628@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:45:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Old Christmas lights In-Reply-To: <001501c3cb17$4ef6f680$99cadece@0018079268> References: <200312251832.hBPIWdS28438@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >handmade gifts . . sharing a good meal. But NO, >we must spend a lot of money to give people >things they may or may not need and probably >don't want or won't use, when if we all >quit doing that everyone would have money to >buy for himself the things he needs and we'd all >be happier. - D. M. That's the way I've been doing Christmas for many years now. You can still have Christmas without the excessive gift-giving. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 14:16:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPKGRdi008590 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:16:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8DDFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:15:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 328037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:15:52 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPKFpS01010 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:15:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBPKFnkK024932 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:15:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEB451A.3060605@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:14:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Preparations II References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225140942.00b33ac8@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We're having a lovely sunny day. Ana is outside playing with one of her new toys. Dinner is about 15 minutes from the table, having been fairly painless to put together. I'm just sipping some Perrier from a piece of the Waterford and waiting for stuff to finish cooking. We've simplified some of our Christmas, but not as much as I'd like to. It isn't much of a "holiday" for me with all the cooking, cleaning, and shopping (and these are just a few of my favorite things... bleh!). I wouldn't mind reducing it all to church and a nice dinner. Perhaps when Ana is older. I always feel so overwhelmed by all the junk that arrives... I'll spend the next week clearing all the crap out to make room for the new crap. clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > It is a bit after 2 pm, 46F, with a steady rain. (It is 45F at Fort Kent, > ME, way, way north of here.) > It was a little warmer before the rain started. Bizarre month---two > significant snowfalls, single-digit days and nights, howling winds, and now > this. They say that we could wake up to a slight amount (1 inch) of snow > in the morning. > > The goose is in the oven and the bailing of the grease has begun. Bonnie > has the creme brulee done and the dough for the rolls is on the rise. Back > to the oven. > > cwv > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 14:31:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPKVwdi008824 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:31:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DDF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:31:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 328198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:31:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPKVNS01635 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:31:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBPKVLkF030688 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:31:21 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBPKVKba030686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:31:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:31:20 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: and if you can't decide Message-ID: <20031225203120.GB30565@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FEB2313.10308@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FEB2313.10308@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >Santa brought me a European bird handbook so I can identify = >what's flying around, and a Leatherman tool for Patrick. = > = >I'm beginning to regret my ambitious dinner = > = Steph, you almost startled me! I was on the verge of thinking you've = given up vegetarianism - talking of bird handbook in the midst of the = dinner topic. Ooh! Sorry! (Perhaps it's not wise to tell you with the = same breath what I cooked for Christmas...) = = Kristin You can eat whatever you like. It doesn't bother me! Dinner was too ambitious. Patrick made the salad. We skipped the roasted vegetables. It took me 2.5 hours to assemble the lasagne. I almost forgot about the dates. We are now settling before we get to dessert. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 17:21:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPNLgdi011719 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:21:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DF89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 331694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPNL5S12626 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPNL3eO002242 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:21:04 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBPNL1a2002227; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:21:02 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031225151653.00bc58d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:23:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: and if you can't decide In-Reply-To: <20031225203120.GB30565@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3FEB2313.10308@akad.ee> <20031224192758.GA28249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FE9EF8B.2040204@swbell.net> <20031225161000.GA30246@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FEB2313.10308@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:31 PM 12/25/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Dinner was too ambitious. Patrick made the salad. We skipped >the roasted vegetables. It took me 2.5 hours to assemble the >lasagne. I almost forgot about the dates. We are now settling >before we get to dessert. Ours was simple. Wayne brought some huge fresh crab which we cooked today. We also had ravioli, wine, and pie. Larry left to take the kids to the airport so they could fly to Phoenix for the Insight Bowl. Our star receiver broke his arm in practice last Sunday. :-( I'm having another glass of wine. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 17:48:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPNmpdi012098 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:48:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8DFC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:48:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:48:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f64.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPNmES14486 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:48:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:48:08 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.222 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:48:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.222] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Freedom Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:48:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 23:48:08.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C9FEDF0:01C3CB41] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:29 AM 12/25/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote: >Freedom for me has been all of the above, >plus no regular social commitments and no >memberships in organizations. My >calendar is free. I go to lunch when I feel >like going to lunch, not because it is the third >Tuesday or the first Wednesday. I am not in >danger of being elected to any kind of post. >I pay no dues. I do my yawning in my easy >chair at night, not in meetings. Whee. I like this! I'd like this version of freedom when I'm older. I'm almost there 'cepfer having to earn a living ... :-/ _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 17:54:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBPNsrdi012221 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:54:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DFB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:54:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:54:16 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f63.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBPNsGS14685 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:54:16 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:54:10 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.222 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:54:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.222] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:54:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2003 23:54:10.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[64714210:01C3CB42] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: >Maybe Forrest Gump, while it irritates >me almost as much as "Shoshona", is an appellation I should learn to live >with. Go with Wonder Woman. (You were amazingly FGish that weekend, you've gotta admit) _________________________________________________________________ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 18:30:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ0U5di012847 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:30:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DFCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:29:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:29:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f18.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ0TRS16549 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:29:28 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 16:29:22 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.222 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:29:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.222] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:29:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2003 00:29:22.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[4ED31A00:01C3CB47] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita, Doris: > > I wonder how many people are actually really on that diet at > > any given time. And I wonder how much of it is offset by > > the large number of people choosing vegetarianism these > > days. When I was a kid, you hardly ever heard of a > > vegetarian. Now, every other person I know is one. > >I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but >don't remember. I know that in my own experience >I am hearing people all around me talk about their >Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one >vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. _________________________________________________________________ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 19:09:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ19vdi013683 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:09:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8DFEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:09:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 332644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:09:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ19JS18482 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:09:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBQ19CRp002271 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:09:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c3cb4d$10685860$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:10:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but > >don't remember. I know that in my own experience > >I am hearing people all around me talk about their > >Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one > >vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. > > Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. They might pig out on meat and vegetables . . but not on the potatoes, bread, pasta, and desserts they were pigging out on before. I think some have learned too that because they can eat meat does not mean they should eat huge quantities of it. People with a tendency toward gout and sure finding that out. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:14:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2E7di014838 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:14:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E035@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:13:29 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2DSS22653 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:13:29 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:13:23 PST Message-ID: <20031226021323.8726.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Missing Spencer To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <000401c3cafb$e0894380$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Doris Markland wrote: > Freedom for me has been all of the above, > plus no regular social commitments and no > memberships in organizations. My > calendar is free. I go to lunch when I feel > like going to lunch, not because it is the third > Tuesday or the first Wednesday. I am not in > danger of being elected to any kind of post. > I pay no dues. I do my yawning in my easy > chair at night, not in meetings. Whee. The Life of Riley has been supplanted by the Life of Markland. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:15:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2FBdi014876 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:15:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E02E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ2EXS22755 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B021@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:14:33 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260214.hBQ2EXS22755@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:14:33 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:54:10 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >clo: > >>Maybe Forrest Gump, while it irritates >>me almost as much as "Shoshona", is an appellation I should learn to live >>with. > >Go with Wonder Woman. (You were amazingly FGish that weekend, you've gotta >admit) There are no circumstances under which Wonder Woman fits. As for the FGish thing, I don't admit to anything of the kind. I was very talkative, which I have been amply - and appropriately - punished for. Look at the topics: Colds, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Closed Captioning, - oh, and setting zippers. All of these are traditional girlie topics* over stitch and bitching, in fact very far from my norm. I feel quite a lot more like Little Women than Wonder Woman, looking over that list. Blecch. * CC may not be a traditional topics, but ministering to those feeling under the weather, surely! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:21:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2Lqdi015116 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E02F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:21:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:21:15 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f17.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ2LES23078 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:21:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:21:09 -0800 Received: from 69.72.4.82 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:21:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.4.82] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: and if you can't decide Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 02:21:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2003 02:21:09.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC760790:01C3CB56] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: >Ours was simple. Wayne brought some huge fresh crab which we cooked I put in an extended shift at the kitchen - 7 am until about 2 pm. (The kitchen's closed until the day after New Year so there was loads of extra stuff to do after getting out the holiday meal.) Then a bunch of us went to nearby Chinatown for a meal. Sadly, the wait staff did not entertain us with Dashing thro' the snow ... _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:25:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2Padi015158 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:25:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E01E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:58 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2OwS23210 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:58 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:24:53 PST Message-ID: <20031226022453.94862.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:24:53 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEB2FB4.5090102@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: We cause our own problems. > Just let > the goddamned things be cows. Please, please, nobody bring up the v___ word. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:26:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2Qrdi015168 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:26:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B02A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:26:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 333107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:26:16 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2GFS22911 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:16:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 93684 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 02:16:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:16:13 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031226021613.GA93161@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. Those "younger eople" are turning 30, dude From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:42:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2gTdi015349 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:42:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E146@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:41:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:41:51 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2fpS28867 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:41:51 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 PST Message-ID: <20031226024146.97431.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031226021613.GA93161@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi > Murthy wrote: > > Younger people (high school and college age) tend > to be > > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to > follow > > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. > > Those "younger eople" are turning 30, dude And 40 and 50, dudette. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:46:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2kxdi015461 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:46:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E138@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:46:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ2jgS29321 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:42 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B08D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:42 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260245.hBQ2jgS29321@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:42 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi >> Murthy wrote: >> > Younger people (high school and college age) tend >> to be >> > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to >> follow >> > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. >> >> Those "younger people" are turning 30, dude > >And 40 and 50, dudette. ^^^^^^^^ ???? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:47:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2kxdi015462 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:46:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E153@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:46:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 335957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:46:21 -0500 Received: from mail46.messagelabs.com (mail46.messagelabs.com [64.125.76.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2jmS29330 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 551 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2003 02:45:47 -0000 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (128.91.2.38) by server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2003 02:45:47 -0000 Received: from ularit (client-151-197-197-186.ba-dsg.net [151.197.197.186]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC080F0C for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:45 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: plotkina@isc.upenn.edu X-Msg-Ref: server-21.tower-46.messagelabs.com!1072406747!557852 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- Message-ID: <00c801c3cb5a$5cf856a0$bac5c597@ularit> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: Subject: Merry Christmas Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We went to a friend's house. Wonderful food. Turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing and apple salad. Just four of us, quiet and fun. peace, alec ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information on a proactive email security service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 20:53:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ2rZdi015620 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:53:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E158@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:56 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ2quS30016 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E160@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:55 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260252.hBQ2quS30016@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Merry Christmas To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:45:44 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >We went to a friend's house. Wonderful food. Turkey, mashed potatoes, >stuffing and apple salad. Just four of us, quiet and fun. > > >peace, > >alec > > > Quiet, fun, and Peace is lovely. I made potato skins and burgers before we went to LOTR. V made a "camp breakfast" this am - omelet, ham steak, and "camp" coffee. No, not with eggshells- this was the modern version, in a presspot. clo clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:00:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ30pdi015716 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:00:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B0A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:00:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:00:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2oBS29814 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:50:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 37899 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 02:50:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:50:09 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just singular ... . Expected: tons of "successories" and pictures of the twin towers. Expected: all the dumb French posters (remember, every decently sized town has a zillion "offbeat" bars and coffee shops...) Somewhat unexpected: the complete, total triumph of Vincent van Gogh. Any explanation? Expected but needs explanation: Georgia O'Keefe, "Red Poppy"; Picasso, "The Old Guitarist". They are everywhere, but WHY? Unexpected: So who's the king among the old farts going for a nonexistent past? Many are going to guess Norman Rockwell. Wrong--there isn't a single one in there. It's ... Jack Vettriano! Highly unexpected: I have never seen fire engines and biplanes and dumper trucks by Simon Hart. Who is buying them? And is there some kind of institution which would naturally buy them? Singular: These leave me guessing. I mention my lame theories, but I am aware they are weak and insufficient ... * Two women in bed (morons who think and say that e.g. Playboy is an artistic, well-produced, classy magazine) * "Kramer" (no, I don't know, I just don't know why anyone would BUY) * "Lenin Forever" poster (perhaps on the lines of the subtle joke made by thinking Presbyterian ministers: "Nietzsche is dead -- God") * Lichtenstein, "Drowning Girl" (ch*ks to whom it SPEAKS) * "Maldive Morning" (no interest, please ban it for a couple years) * "John Belushi - College", "Dancing Bears", "A Friend in Need" (no, I don't know, I just don't know) * Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable bestseller of all) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:02:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ320di015726 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:02:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E167@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:01:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:01:22 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ2pLS29933 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:51:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 38362 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 02:51:20 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:51:20 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031226025120.GA37965@words-l.org> References: <200312260245.hBQ2jgS29321@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312260245.hBQ2jgS29321@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:45:42PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > >--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > >> > Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be > >> > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow > >> > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. > >> > >> Those "younger people" are turning 30, dude > > > >And 40 and 50, dudette. > ^^^^^^^^ > > ???? It's humor. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:03:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ33Hdi015746 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E171@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:02:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:02:39 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ32dS30683 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:02:39 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ32bkK009883 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:02:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEBA44C.8030002@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:00:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312260245.hBQ2jgS29321@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031226025120.GA37965@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:45:42PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >>>--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>>> >>>>>Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be >>>>>vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow >>>>>the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. >>>>> >>>>Those "younger people" are turning 30, dude >>>> >>>And 40 and 50, dudette. >>> >> ^^^^^^^^ >> >>???? >> > > It's humor. Are you sure? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:03:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ33pdi015794 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:03:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B0DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:03:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:03:12 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ33BS30744 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:03:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-150-198.gwi.net [216.195.150.198]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQ33859027625; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:03:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225215908.00b61fa8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:03:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Merry Christmas In-Reply-To: <00c801c3cb5a$5cf856a0$bac5c597@ularit> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:45 PM 12/25/2003 -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: >We went to a friend's house. Wonderful food. Turkey, mashed potatoes, >stuffing and apple salad. Just four of us, quiet and fun. Barry and Susan enjoyed the goose (the first one they have eaten)---not much in the way of leftovers, for which I'm happy. The bones are in the freezer, waiting the next stock exercise, the kitchen is clean, Bonnie has given up and gone to bed. Now to feed the cats and head off to bed myself. I rather imagine that tomorrow will be devoted to a little more inactivity than usual. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:08:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ38Idi015862 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:08:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E173@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:07:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:07:40 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ37eS31216 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:07:40 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ37erW026588 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:07:40 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.223.131]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ37cKj022263 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:07:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:01:55 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a transition year Message-ID: <2942858746.1072389715@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: <20031224023850.70435.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My thoughts are with you Lynne, cancer and its treatments are not easy for anyone involved. I wish both you and Chris the best. Meanwhile, we will try to fill your head with more than you ever needed to know. Terrt From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:09:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ39pdi015870 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:09:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E176@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:09:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:09:13 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ39DS31348 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:09:13 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B0EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:09:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260309.hBQ39DS31348@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:09:13 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:50:09 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, >others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just >singular ... . > [snip] >* Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable > bestseller of all) My eyes have been opened. I now understand the true nature of "art". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3CTdi015960 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:12:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E168@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:11:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:11:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ3BpS31486 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:11:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B0BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:11:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260311.hBQ3BpS31486@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:11:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:51:20 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:45:42PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >> >--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >> >> > Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be >> >> > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow >> >> > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. >> >> >> >> Those "younger people" are turning 30, dude >> > >> >And 40 and 50, dudette. >> ^^^^^^^^ >> >> ???? > >It's humor. Oh, thanks. Had me worried. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:17:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3Hrdi016010 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:17:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022B0EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:17:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:17:15 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ3HES31828 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:17:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ3HCkK016707 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:17:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEBA7B6.50606@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:15:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question References: <200312251815.hBPIFrS26922@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > You know, I thought of you when I wrote this, Rita. It seems odd to me that > I have such an automated reaction to "it never happens" - I seem compelled > to say "well actually I knew of a case where" - even when I don't care and > know that no one else does either. I guess I live in a universe heavily > populated by exceptions to the rule. Maybe Forrest Gump, while it irritates > me almost as much as "Shoshona", is an appellation I should learn to live > with. We all live in that universe. But you remind me of my husband when he is being completely irrational. He'll tell me not to do something because of some obscure and completely meaningless reason. For example, I was once interested in buying a red truck. He was against the truck because it was a bad deal (it truly was a bad deal), but instead of telling me the truck was a bad deal, he decided that my dog would "freak out" if he rode in the extended cab. Now, I suppose there was a remote possibility that my dog would not like riding back there (in fact, he prefers the passenger seat of my current truck), but that was hardly a good reason upon which to base a decision. It was downright bizarre. Natalie, suffering an ear infection, should have gone to the ER to get some relief cuz ear infections suck. However, telling her to go to the ER because the infection could spread to her brain is enough to make one dismiss the person giving the advice because the warning is so unlikely. This tendency to dredge up meaningless stories is interesting, and perhaps Forrest Gumpish, but no more Forrest Gumpish than any of us are, for Forrest Gump (the movie) is really a metaphorical depiction of the Exceptional American*. The hero of all our classic novels and history is always not too bright, lucky, and kind**. I'm not calling you not-too-bright, lucky, or kind (although the second adjective is a possiblity, and third seems true), but if you insist on being imbued with the American Character, you can hardly expect people not to respond.*** *cf Marty-who-will-be-Marty **oops, forgot the Protestant work ethic ***that said, I think Doris, aka Pangloss, is really far more Forrest Gumpish than you are. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:19:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3JSdi016026 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:19:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E185@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:18:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:18:50 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ3IoS31909 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:18:50 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ3IlkK017278 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:18:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEBA815.8060109@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:16:37 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Rita, Doris: > >> > I wonder how many people are actually really on that diet at >> > any given time. And I wonder how much of it is offset by >> > the large number of people choosing vegetarianism these >> > days. When I was a kid, you hardly ever heard of a >> > vegetarian. Now, every other person I know is one. >> >> I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but >> don't remember. I know that in my own experience >> I am hearing people all around me talk about their >> Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one >> vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. > > > Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is vegetarian. I had no idea until recently. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:24:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3Oddi016183 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E16C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:24:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:24:00 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3E0S31644 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:14:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 48941 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 03:13:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:13:58 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226031358.GA43477@words-l.org> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why is Rembrandt's "Return of the Prodigal Son" so popular? Please, read on only if you can stomach it. It's because it's GAY. It's truly so phenomenally GAY that it's vastly GAYer than any kneeling peasant or fallen rider painted by Caravaggio (a total GAY). Sorry, them's the breaks. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:27:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3R1di016221 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E190@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:26:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:26:23 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ3QNS32348 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:26:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ3QLTB004122 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:26:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEBA9DA.8010607@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> <3FEB2FB4.5090102@swbell.net> <000601c3cb1c$c68da400$99cadece@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but > don't remember. I know that in my own experience > I am hearing people all around me talk about their > Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one > vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. > The Atkins thing is probably very temporary, however, > and will pass. Those who go veg probably continue > veg. Yes. If I'm typical, as a former vegetarian, I've never really gone back to eating a lot of meat. Usually just dinner, if that. > Two or three thoughts come to mind: A few years ago when > there was a particularly scary case of e. coli, it was traced to > uninspected meat from New Zealand. We must not assume > that all meat in our stores is our own inspected meat, without > checking labels. I see a recall on the TV every other month or so. We've had two severe outbreaks of e. coli in St. Louis recently -- one at the Children's Hospital. > When you think of the enormous amounts of meat consumed > every day in this country, the reports of anything contaminated > are very very few. I'm not sure everything is reported. > Re grass: You will find less and less of it. Our meadows > have been plowed up and planted. Such a shame. It is just as easy to plant a pasture as it is to plant a corn field. And they only have to eat grass or hay for three days. > We can be glad that when some questionable meat has been > found we have systems that can trace the origin of the animal > and the routing of its products. You will hear more and more > about an industry out here that puts chips into the ears of each > animal with all its history, allowing them to be followed from > birth to death. I'm not sure what knowing their histories has to do with using better and safer methods of farming -- seems to me you'd be better of spending the money on the grass to prevent the problems in the first place. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:44:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3ikdi016523 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:44:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022B116@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:44:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:44:08 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3XpS00380 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:33:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 64837 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 03:33:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:33:49 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226033349.GB49006@words-l.org> References: <200312260309.hBQ39DS31348@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312260309.hBQ39DS31348@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 10:09:13PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:50:09 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > > >Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, > >others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just > >singular ... . > > > > [snip] > >* Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable > > bestseller of all) > > > My eyes have been opened. I now understand the true nature of "art". What is it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:44:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3ildi016524 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:44:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E18F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:44:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 336660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:43:29 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3XSS00315 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:33:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 64684 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 03:33:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:33:26 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031226033326.GA49006@words-l.org> References: <200312260245.hBQ2jgS29321@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <20031226025120.GA37965@words-l.org> <3FEBA44C.8030002@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FEBA44C.8030002@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:00:28PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:45:42PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > > >>On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 18:41:46 -0800, Lynne Weber > >>wrote: > >> > >>>--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>> > >>>>On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be > >>>>>vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow > >>>>>the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. > >>>>> > >>>>Those "younger people" are turning 30, dude > >>>> > >>>And 40 and 50, dudette. > >>> > >> ^^^^^^^^ > >> > >>???? > >> > > > >It's humor. > > > Are you sure? No hating please. You didn't notice the earlier humor of calling a woman "dude". Merry Xmas, talk to you when you are sober ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:52:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3qDdi016611 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B106@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:51:35 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ3pYS01663 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:51:34 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id EB6EC2B8F0; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ED12B8EF for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:51:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints In-Reply-To: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, > others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just > singular ... . Maybe something has to sell only once or twice to be on the best sellers list. I bet the market is very slow. This is NOT amazon.com. In fact, I bet 50% haven't sold at all, and are some marketers joke or weird guess. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:56:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3uVdi016672 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:56:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B153@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:55:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:55:53 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3tqS01959 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:55:52 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:55:47 PST Message-ID: <20031226035547.7771.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:55:47 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Some of these might surprise you because they are > unexpected, > others are surprising even though expected, and a > few are just > singular ... > . > > Expected: tons of "successories" and pictures of the > twin towers. > > Expected: all the dumb French posters (remember, > every decently > sized town has a zillion "offbeat" bars and coffee > shops...) > > Somewhat unexpected: the complete, total triumph of > Vincent > van Gogh. Any explanation? He was quite good, you know. > > Expected but needs explanation: Georgia O'Keefe, > "Red Poppy"; > Picasso, "The Old Guitarist". They are everywhere, > but WHY? Your guess... > > Unexpected: So who's the king among the old farts > going for > a nonexistent past? Many are going to guess Norman > Rockwell. > Wrong--there isn't a single one in there. It's ... > Jack > Vettriano! I like them! > > Highly unexpected: I have never seen fire engines > and biplanes > and dumper trucks by Simon Hart. Who is buying them? > And is > there some kind of institution which would naturally > buy them? > > Singular: These leave me guessing. I mention my lame > theories, > but I am aware they are weak and insufficient ... > > * Two women in bed (morons who think and say that > e.g. Playboy is > an artistic, well-produced, classy magazine) > > * "Kramer" (no, I don't know, I just don't know why > anyone would BUY) Jason Alexander, if he ever gets another job. > > * "Lenin Forever" poster (perhaps on the lines of > the subtle joke > made by thinking Presbyterian ministers: > "Nietzsche is dead -- God") Dartboards in English pubs? The type of pubs frequented be antiquated RAF boys? > > * Lichtenstein, "Drowning Girl" (ch*ks to whom it > SPEAKS) Simply awful! > > * "Maldive Morning" (no interest, please ban it for > a couple years) > > * "John Belushi - College", "Dancing Bears", "A > Friend in Need" (no, > I don't know, I just don't know) Nor I. > > * Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" > (the least explicable > bestseller of all) Don't they mean Erroneous Bosh? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:57:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3vfdi016683 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:57:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B12C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:57:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:57:02 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ3v2S02137 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:57:02 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ3v2rW027145 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:57:02 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.223.131]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQ3v1Kj025185 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:57:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:51:17 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: Words-L Subject: New York Message-ID: <2945820865.1072392677@LAPLAND> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy Holidays to you all! As for NY, our intent was to take some sort of public transportation into and out of NY. Into is no problem, out is. The last chance is Amtrak at 7:30 pm, hardly time for a meal. So Alan has generously offered to hold the fort while I travel. This also means I need to find some accommodations and return Sun. am. While doable, I have been rather involved on the home front and have not pursued this much. There's always tomorrow. Christmas eve dinner: Breton-Style mussels Baked talipia Carrots Sauteed asparagus Christmas brunch courtesy Alan: Sausage Scrambled eggs Christmas dinner: Roasted Turkey Mashed red potatoes Green Beans Butternut Squash Gravy Cranberry Sauce Whole Wheat Bread with Raisins Apple and Pumpkin Pie 2 kinds of Cheddar cheese And to all a good night... Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3wfdi016753 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:58:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B167@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:58:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:58:03 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3w3S02232 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:58:03 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:57:58 PST Message-ID: <20031226035758.93436.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 19:57:58 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <3FEBA44C.8030002@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Rita Chapman wrote: > >>>>Those "younger people" are turning 30, dude > >>>> > >>>And 40 and 50, dudette. > >>> > >> ^^^^^^^^ > >> > >>???? > >> > > > > It's humor. > > > Are you sure? No __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 21:59:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ3xMdi016762 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:59:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E20C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:58:44 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3miS01423 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:48:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 80730 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 03:48:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:48:42 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: <20031226034842.GA64866@words-l.org> References: <200312251815.hBPIFrS26922@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FEBA7B6.50606@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FEBA7B6.50606@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:15:02PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > We all live in that universe. But you remind me of my > husband when he is being completely irrational. He'll > tell me not to do something because of some obscure and > completely meaningless reason. For example, I was once > interested in buying a red truck. He was against the truck > because it was a bad deal (it truly was a bad deal), but > instead of telling me the truck was a bad deal, he decided > that my dog would "freak out" if he rode in the extended > cab. Now, I suppose there was a remote possibility that my > dog would not like riding back there (in fact, he prefers > the passenger seat of my current truck), but that was hardly > a good reason upon which to base a decision. It was > downright bizarre. Ha! There are more people like that than you think ... I have two explanations: one, they intuitively know something is a bad idea but can't readily produce the explanation. Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the other person can grasp the real explanation. And when you think about it, the first reason is just as bad as the second one ... saying "I have a bad feeling, give me a little time to figure out why" is the right thing, but hard to do if you trust neither the other person nor yourself. I have a couple of examples from my family. I have also seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals go down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:00:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ400di016785 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:00:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B17F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:59:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:59:22 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3nMS01493 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:49:22 -0500 Received: (qmail 81034 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 03:49:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:49:21 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031226034921.GB64866@words-l.org> References: <3FEBA815.8060109@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FEBA815.8060109@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:16:37PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For > example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is > vegetarian. I had no idea until recently. English-teaching hippies aren't real people. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:00:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ40ldi016819 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:00:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B194@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:00:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 338039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:00:06 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ405S02522 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:00:05 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:00:00 PST Message-ID: <20031226040000.65776.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: a transition year To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <2942858746.1072389715@LAPLAND> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Terry Wild wrote: > My thoughts are with you Lynne, cancer and its > treatments are not easy for > anyone involved. I wish both you and Chris the > best. > > Meanwhile, we will try to fill your head with more > than you ever needed to > know. Thank you, Terry. Sounds wonderful. Be sure to include the silly stuff along with the important stuff. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:03:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ43Qdi016860 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:03:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E2E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:02:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 337160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:02:47 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ3qlS01728 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:52:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 91047 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 03:52:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:45 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226035245.GA90605@words-l.org> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 07:51:33PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, > > others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just > > singular ... . > > Maybe something has to sell only once or twice to be on the best sellers > list. I bet the market is very slow. This is NOT amazon.com. > > In fact, I bet 50% haven't sold at all, and are some marketers joke or > weird guess. These are numbers since 1997, dude. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:04:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ447di016864 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:04:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E2F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:03:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 339586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:03:28 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ43SS03603 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:03:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:03:23 PST Message-ID: <20031226040323.90687.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Merry Christmas To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031225215908.00b61fa8@pop.gwi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: Now to feed the cats and > head off to bed > myself. I rather imagine that tomorrow will be > devoted to a little more > inactivity than usual. > > cwv You both deserve a day of rest. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:08:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ48Ndi016924 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:08:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E3CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:07:44 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ47iS04440 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:07:44 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:07:38 PST Message-ID: <20031226040738.24014.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:07:38 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031226031358.GA43477@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Why is Rembrandt's "Return of the Prodigal Son" so > popular? > > Please, read on only if you can stomach it. > > It's because it's GAY. It's truly so phenomenally > GAY that > it's vastly GAYer than any kneeling peasant or > fallen rider > painted by Caravaggio (a total GAY). > > Sorry, them's the breaks. I've never understood The Prodigal Son parable. All it demostrates to me is that it pays off to be an ungrateful wastrel. Maybe your explanation is the key. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:26:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ4QZdi017174 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:26:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B34A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:25:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 341882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:25:57 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4PvS05466 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:25:57 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:25:51 PST Message-ID: <20031226042551.94069.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:25:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031226034842.GA64866@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Ha! There are more people like that than you think > ... I > have two explanations: one, they intuitively know > something > is a bad idea but can't readily produce the > explanation. > Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the > other > person can grasp the real explanation. And when you > think > about it, the first reason is just as bad as the > second > one ... saying "I have a bad feeling, give me a > little > time to figure out why" is the right thing, but hard > to > do if you trust neither the other person nor > yourself. > > I have a couple of examples from my family. I have > also > seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals > go > down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. This is the most cogent reasoning I've seen regarding this problem, which is probably more wide-spread than suspected. Your last analogy is stunning. :-] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:34:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ4Y6di017320 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:34:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E42E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:33:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:33:27 -0500 Received: from web60709.mail.yahoo.com (web60709.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4XRS06193 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:33:27 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:33:22 PST Message-ID: <20031226043322.37141.qmail@web60709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: >> > Maybe something has to sell only once or twice to be > on the best sellers > list. I bet the market is very slow. This is NOT > amazon.com. > > In fact, I bet 50% haven't sold at all, and are some > marketers joke or > weird guess. I bet you're right, but these prices aren't bad, and people will buy anything. My father hung a print by Utrillo depicting a giant slice of watermelon on the livingroom wall for about two years. I learned to hate that thing. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:45:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ4jcdi017625 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:45:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E43B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:44:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:45:00 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4YxS06318 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:34:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 15210 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 04:34:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:34:57 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226043457.GA14291@words-l.org> References: <20031226031358.GA43477@words-l.org> <20031226040738.24014.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031226040738.24014.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 08:07:38PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Why is Rembrandt's "Return of the Prodigal Son" so > > popular? > > > > Please, read on only if you can stomach it. > > > > It's because it's GAY. It's truly so phenomenally GAY that > > it's vastly GAYer than any kneeling peasant or fallen rider > > painted by Caravaggio (a total GAY). > > > > Sorry, them's the breaks. > > I've never understood The Prodigal Son parable. All > it demostrates to me is that it pays off to be an > ungrateful wastrel. Maybe your explanation is the > key. I've never read it through, actually. I couldn't get past the homosexual content. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:48:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ4mDdi017725 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:48:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B36E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:47:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:47:29 -0500 Received: from web60707.mail.yahoo.com (web60707.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.230]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4lTS06950 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:47:29 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:47:23 PST Message-ID: <20031226044723.98348.qmail@web60707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031226043457.GA14291@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > I've never read it through, actually. I couldn't get > past > the homosexual content. Couldn't stomach it, eh? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ4mNdi017736 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:48:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E426@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:47:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:47:45 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4bjS06447 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:37:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 18177 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 04:37:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:37:43 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: <20031226043743.GB14291@words-l.org> References: <20031226034842.GA64866@words-l.org> <20031226042551.94069.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031226042551.94069.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 08:25:51PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > Ha! There are more people like that than you think ... I > > have two explanations: one, they intuitively know something > > is a bad idea but can't readily produce the explanation. > > Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the other > > person can grasp the real explanation. And when you think > > about it, the first reason is just as bad as the second > > one ... saying "I have a bad feeling, give me a little > > time to figure out why" is the right thing, but hard to > > do if you trust neither the other person nor yourself. > > > > I have a couple of examples from my family. I have also > > seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals go > > down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. > > This is the most cogent reasoning I've seen regarding > this problem, which is probably more wide-spread than > suspected. Your last analogy is stunning. :-] Thank you. I thought long and hard about this analogy, like a lawyer who does not underestimate the jury. I have always been told that my analogies are like a day with orange juice. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 22:50:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ4o2di017755 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:50:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E427@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:49:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:49:24 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4nOS07013 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:49:24 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:49:18 PST Message-ID: <20031226044918.97703.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031226043743.GB14291@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Thank you. I thought long and hard about this > analogy, like > a lawyer who does not underestimate the jury. I have > always > been told that my analogies are like a day with > orange juice. I'm not biting. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:07:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ57pdi018075 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:07:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:07:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 342251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:05:27 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBQ4ojS07052 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:50:45 -0500 Received: (qmail 32359 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Dec 2003 04:50:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:50:43 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: <20031226045043.GA30845@words-l.org> References: <20031226043743.GB14291@words-l.org> <20031226044918.97703.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031226044918.97703.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 08:49:18PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Thank you. I thought long and hard about this analogy, like > > a lawyer who does not underestimate the jury. I have always > > been told that my analogies are like a day with orange juice. > > I'm not biting. You are too modest; you certainly are! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:20:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ5KDdi018249 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:20:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E5B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:19:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:19:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f61.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ5JYS14507 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:19:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:19:29 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.26 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:19:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.26] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:19:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2003 05:19:29.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[D622D040:01C3CB6F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:29:21AM +0000, Rashmi >Murthy wrote: > > Younger people (high school and college age) tend >to be > > vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to >follow > > the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. > >Those "younger eople" are turning 30, dude Yeah, and when faced with middle-aged spread all but the most fervent vegetarians ditch it and jump on some variation of the Atkins bandwagon, from what I've seen. I'm sure there are older vegetarians but many* people seem to give it up a few years after college. * many, not all - hi pat'n'steph! _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access — limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:22:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ5Mldi018287 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:22:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B4C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:22:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 344881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:22:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f58.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ5M8S14750 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:22:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:22:03 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.26 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:22:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.26] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Inhaler question Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:22:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2003 05:22:03.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[31E78CE0:01C3CB70] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clo: >There are no circumstances under which Wonder Woman fits. As for the FGish >thing, I don't admit to anything of the kind. I was very talkative, which I >have been amply - and appropriately - punished for. Hey, this is Words-L. Post early, post often - don't sweat it. As for the "punishment" I've no idea what you're talking about. I completely missed it. _________________________________________________________________ Get reliable dial-up Internet access now with our limited-time introductory offer. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:41:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ5fgdi018534 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:41:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E5F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:41:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:41:03 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ5f2S17092 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:41:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B4E1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:41:02 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260541.hBQ5f2S17092@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:41:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:16:37 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> Rita, Doris: >> >>> > I wonder how many people are actually really on that diet at >>> > any given time. And I wonder how much of it is offset by >>> > the large number of people choosing vegetarianism these >>> > days. When I was a kid, you hardly ever heard of a >>> > vegetarian. Now, every other person I know is one. >>> >>> I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but >>> don't remember. I know that in my own experience >>> I am hearing people all around me talk about their >>> Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one >>> vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. >> >> >> Younger people (high school and college age) tend to be >> vegetarians, middle-aged and older people tend to follow >> the Atkins (pig out and lose weight) diet. > > > I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For >example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is >vegetarian. I had no idea until recently. > I've noticed a similar phenomenon, and the reason given, universally, is "Oh, I never really liked red meat". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:46:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ5kVdi018657 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:46:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E609@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:45:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:45:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ5jpS17916 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:45:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022B517@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:45:51 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260545.hBQ5jpS17916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:45:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:10 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > > >> I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but >> don't remember. I know that in my own experience >> I am hearing people all around me talk about their >> Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one >> vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. >> The Atkins thing is probably very temporary, however, >> and will pass. Those who go veg probably continue >> veg. > > > Yes. If I'm typical, as a former vegetarian, I've never >really gone back to eating a lot of meat. Usually just >dinner, if that. > I wish it was that easy! The "Atkins thing" (low carb diet for life, not to lose weight after overeating, but in response to insulin resistance that caused obesity) is necessary to a lot of us due to the fact that insulin resistance slides into diabetes II. It's a real dilemma for me - and presumably I'm not the only former vegetarian in this fix. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:50:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ5oFdi018686 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:50:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:49:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:49:36 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f54.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ5naS18194 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:49:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:49:30 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.26 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:49:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.26] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:49:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2003 05:49:30.0395 (UTC) FILETIME=[07CBD6B0:01C3CB74] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: > I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For >example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is >vegetarian. I had no idea until recently. I very rarely (almost never) meet vegetarians (middle-aged or otherwise) in Delaware. Philly, yes. _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Dec 25 23:53:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ5rDdi018764 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:53:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E61C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 0:52:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 345713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:52:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ5qYS18622 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:52:34 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQ5qXeO008810 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQ5qVa2008798; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:52:32 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031225215153.00a469a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:55:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <200312260541.hBQ5f2S17092@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rlita wrote: > > I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For > >example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is > >vegetarian. I had no idea until recently. > > >I've noticed a similar phenomenon, and the reason given, universally, >is "Oh, I never really liked red meat". >clo I like it but I desire it less as I've aged. I eat very little of it and could easily become a vegetarian, except I would have to have a good juicy hamburger once in a while. You know, the kind that you bite into and the juice runs down your arm. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 00:03:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ63Fdi018926 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:03:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B523@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 1:02:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:02:36 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ62aS20131 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:02:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B556@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 1:02:36 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260602.hBQ62aS20131@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:02:36 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:48:42 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:15:02PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >> We all live in that universe. But you remind me of my >> husband when he is being completely irrational. He'll >> tell me not to do something because of some obscure and >> completely meaningless reason. For example, I was once >> interested in buying a red truck. He was against the truck >> because it was a bad deal (it truly was a bad deal), but >> instead of telling me the truck was a bad deal, he decided >> that my dog would "freak out" if he rode in the extended >> cab. Now, I suppose there was a remote possibility that my >> dog would not like riding back there (in fact, he prefers >> the passenger seat of my current truck), but that was hardly >> a good reason upon which to base a decision. It was >> downright bizarre. > To respond to Rita: Again, I have no idea what was in Karen's mind when she made the statement. Natalie was still right to go to the Dr., and the Dr. was still unkind to laugh when she asked a question she had in her mind - especially when there is a lay logic to what she was thinking. But I've noticed that Drs, like most "learned" people, love to laugh indulgently at people who "get things wrong" by having another idea. >Ha! There are more people like that than you think ... I >have two explanations: one, they intuitively know something >is a bad idea but can't readily produce the explanation. >Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the other >person can grasp the real explanation. And when you think >about it, the first reason is just as bad as the second >one ... saying "I have a bad feeling, give me a little >time to figure out why" is the right thing, but hard to >do if you trust neither the other person nor yourself. > >I have a couple of examples from my family. I have also >seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals go >down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. This is interesting insight. Inappropriate selling is a good description of giving the wrong reason for wanting people to do something. What exactly defines "weaklings" in this context? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 00:04:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ64edi018945 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:04:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E651@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 1:04:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:04:01 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ641S20297 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:04:01 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B559@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 1:04:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260604.hBQ641S20297@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:04:01 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:07:38 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >--- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> Why is Rembrandt's "Return of the Prodigal Son" so >> popular? >> >> Please, read on only if you can stomach it. >> >> It's because it's GAY. It's truly so phenomenally >> GAY that >> it's vastly GAYer than any kneeling peasant or >> fallen rider >> painted by Caravaggio (a total GAY). >> >> Sorry, them's the breaks. > >I've never understood The Prodigal Son parable. All >it demostrates to me is that it pays off to be an >ungrateful wastrel. Maybe your explanation is the >key. > Dutiful Eldest Daughter, eh? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 00:08:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ683di018984 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:08:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 1:07:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 346277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:07:23 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ67NS20735 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:07:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B52D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 1:07:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200312260607.hBQ67NS20735@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:07:23 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:22:02 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >clo: > >>There are no circumstances under which Wonder Woman fits. As for the FGish >>thing, I don't admit to anything of the kind. I was very talkative, which I >>have been amply - and appropriately - punished for. > >Hey, this is Words-L. Post early, post often - don't sweat it. As for >the "punishment" I've no idea what you're talking about. I completely >missed it. > If you missed my completely bald slip into self-exposure, I can only be grateful. I was crediting y'all with incredibly good manners in overlooking it. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 03:20:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ9KFdi022893 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 03:20:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E750@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 4:19:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 04:19:34 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ9JXS31096 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 04:19:34 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBQ9JWkF032083 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:19:32 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBQ9JVr6032081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:19:31 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:19:31 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog: = Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, = others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just = singular ... . = = Somewhat unexpected: the complete, total triumph of Vincent = van Gogh. Any explanation? = I think it's because 1) you want the cd, this is where it's sold, 2) it's easy to study art by studying van Gogh (or, it's easy to think it's easy to study art by starting with van Gogh), 3) if you thrive on visual stimulation, Vincent's the man, 4) lots and lots of van Gogh on exhibition lately, 5) go stand in front of one and see if you don't go wow. (Disclaimer: I have been to the van Gogh museum probably 5 times, and the Kroller-Muller twice. I grew up with a print of the sunflowers and was fascinated by the story of a guy who cut off his own ear. I have a new catalogue of all his works, a refrigerator magnet of "Terrace de Cafe" and in the bedroom, a print of "Bedroom at Arles". At the apartment, there's a poster from the Gaugin/van Gogh exhibition, and I went to the Art Institute a lot as a kid (once or twice a year). = Highly unexpected: I have never seen fire engines and biplanes = and dumper trucks by Simon Hart. Who is buying them? And is = there some kind of institution which would naturally buy them? = Mothers with boys. = Singular: These leave me guessing. I mention my lame theories, = but I am aware they are weak and insufficient ... = = * "John Belushi - College", "Dancing Bears", "A Friend in Need" (no, = I don't know, I just don't know) When's the last time you saw 'Animal House'? = = * Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable = bestseller of all) Your youthful angst did not express itself this way. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 03:47:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQ9lLdi023289 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 03:47:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E756@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 4:46:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 348738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 04:46:41 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQ9keS32032 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 04:46:40 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBQ9kdkF032120 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:46:39 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBQ9kcKo032118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:46:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:46:38 +0100 From: steph To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031226094638.GB32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = = = * Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable = = bestseller of all) = = Your youthful angst did not express itself this way. ERrr, aarrgh. This is what happens when you don't take a close look. I was thinking of the one where all forms of nastiness are taking place. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 06:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQCgodi026211 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:42:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E92C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 7:42:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:42:08 -0500 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQCg7S26247 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:42:08 -0500 Received: from onetel.net.uk (213-78-64-27.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.64.27]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with ESMTP id ARB91426; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:41:59 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:42:56 +0000 Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> Message-Id: <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, Dec 25, 2003, at 18:35 Europe/London, Doris Markland wrote: > > I think it highly likely that our U. S. beef supply > is safe. I have questioned for a long time the > safety of meat we import because some countries > do not have the strict inspections systems they > should have. Read the following. http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1112561,00.html http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=476091 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3348969.stm The only reason they seem to have found this case is that the one they tested couldn't stand up. Testing around 20000 from 35 million is not going to find much of anything. > - D. M. Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 07:11:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQDBFdi026710 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:11:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B855@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 8:09:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:09:36 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQD9ZS27302 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:09:35 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-176.gwi.net [216.195.154.176]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQD9V57051464 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:09:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226080422.00b31a48@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:09:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <200312260545.hBQ5jpS17916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes. If I'm typical, as a former vegetarian, I've never > >really gone back to eating a lot of meat. Usually just > >dinner, if that. > > >I wish it was that easy! You wish what was that easy? Not eating a lot of meat? >The "Atkins thing" (low carb diet for life, not to lose >weight after overeating, but in response to insulin >resistance that caused obesity) is necessary to a lot of >us due to the fact that insulin resistance slides into >diabetes II. Are you saying that a low carbohydrate diet is necessary for the insulin resistant? The two women I know who are very into Atkins never mentioned anything about that. >It's a real dilemma for me - and presumably I'm not the >only former vegetarian in this fix. >clo I don't understand. What's the dilemma? Our Atkins diet Christmas dinner guest was amazing. God, did she eat. I'm sure she consumed twice the calories I did. She didn't have a sweet potato or a dinner roll. But she ate about five helpings of goose. I made a creme brulee with Splenda for her and she had that un-bruleed. Cream has no carbohydrates. I hadn't realized that. Milk does. The most amazing thing was the gusto with which she ate. She really shoveled it in like maybe she was starving. Or maybe it's just me. I have no appetite with this cold and pretty much have to remind myself and force myself to eat regularly throughout the day. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 07:46:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQDkZdi027278 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:46:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E95B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 8:45:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:45:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQDjqS28662 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:45:52 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQDjp2f032109 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:45:51 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQDjnJC032097; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:45:50 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226054728.00a4beb0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:48:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226080422.00b31a48@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312260545.hBQ5jpS17916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:09 AM 12/26/2003 -0500, bonniev wrote: she ate. She really shoveled it in like maybe she was starving. Or maybe >it's just me. I have no appetite with this cold and pretty much have to >remind myself and force myself to eat regularly throughout the day. > > >bonnie It's okay not to eat when you don't feel well. Listen to your body but force those fluids! B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:03:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQE3Udi027479 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:03:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E98A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:02:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:02:47 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQE2lS29387 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:02:47 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-154-176.gwi.net [216.195.154.176]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQE2jGn002596 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:02:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226090045.02a60d30@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:02:47 -0500 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: It's snowing! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.geddys.com/geddycams/harborcam/ On the feast of Stephen, we have snow which is so much more pleasant than yesterday's rain and 50 degree temps. It's only supposed to amount to an inch or so. Don't even have to shovel that! Clyde is still in bed this morning. Poor guy had to do most of the kitchen cleanup by himself. I'm feeling marginally better. And I am forcing my fluids, Betty. It's easy to do because the meds make my mouth feel like the Sahara desert. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:10:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEA3di027571 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:10:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E990@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:09:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:09:20 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQE9KS29698 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:09:20 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBQE9GRp000816 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:09:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3cbba$06180960$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> Subject: Re: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:10:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1112561,00.html > > http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=476091 > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3348969.stm > > The only reason they seem to have found this case is that the one > they tested couldn't stand up. Testing around 20000 from 35 million > is not going to find much of anything. > > > - D. M. > > Roy Perhaps this will lead to more testing then. Does the UK do more testing since their industry went through this? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:21:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQELbdi027728 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:21:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E9A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:20:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:20:55 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEKsS30376 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:20:54 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEKreO020456 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:20:53 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEKqa2020446 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:20:53 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226062326.00bd67c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:23:46 -0800 To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: For Marie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You need one of these. http://www.doggydiary.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:37:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEbfdi027921 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:37:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E9C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:36:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:36:58 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEawS31363 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:36:58 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 73DA52B582; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698992B557 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:36:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:36:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question In-Reply-To: <20031226034842.GA64866@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ha! There are more people like that than you think ... I > have two explanations: one, they intuitively know something > is a bad idea but can't readily produce the explanation. > Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the other > person can grasp the real explanation. And when you think Three: discussing the real explanation will bring up forbidden or sensitive topics. Four: they think focussing on the real reason will put them at a disadvantage in the power struggle. Five: they are tired of arguing over the real reason and think it will be to their advantage to change the strategy. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:38:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEcqdi027938 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:38:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E9AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:38:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 1939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:38:10 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEc9S31448 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:38:09 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 095582B8DC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EC62B8E7 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:38:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:38:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints In-Reply-To: <20031226035245.GA90605@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > In fact, I bet 50% haven't sold at all, and are some marketers joke or > > weird guess. > > These are numbers since 1997, dude. Sez who, dudette. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:42:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEgTdi027978 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:42:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B8AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:46 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEfkS31955 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:46 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQEfa59059501; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226093726.00b1a8d0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:38:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <3FEBA815.8060109@swbell.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:16 PM 12/25/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For >example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is >vegetarian. That would be a bad place to be a carrot... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:49:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEnFdi028125 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:49:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E9E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:48:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:48:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (snarl.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEmWS32411 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:48:32 -0500 Received: from uclink-s.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEmVeO002651 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:48:31 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-s.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEmUa2002642; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:48:30 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226064156.00a46720@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:51:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Message from Natalie In-Reply-To: <3FEA4B55.8010007@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She says everyone should hop on the next flight and get there as fast as you can. She loves NYC and everything is wonderful. There was the brief discussion of moving there but I reminded her or her hair problem. She is having absolutely the most fabulous time. The flight was full but not unpleasant, and the ears did not explode. The hotel is wonderful but she did have a terrible salad. She seems overly worried about her smooshed hair because she mentioned it a few times. She is afraid she won't be selected to be a model, but it's windy so she has to live with flat hair. She is roaming the streets and just enjoying being there and looking forward to riding the subways now. She will probably run into Janet and the boys. It was fun talking to her and she sounded great. Brad, there is a message on your machine. The computer she just tried using is broken. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:50:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEoWdi028137 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:50:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8E9EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:49:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:49:50 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEnnS32440 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:49:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQEnmkK022799 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:49:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEC4A32.5070403@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:48:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog: > = Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, > = others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just > = singular ... . > = > = Somewhat unexpected: the complete, total triumph of Vincent > = van Gogh. Any explanation? > = > > I think it's because 1) you want the cd, this is where it's sold, 2) it's > easy to study art by studying van Gogh (or, it's easy to think > it's easy to study art by starting with van Gogh), 3) if you > thrive on visual stimulation, Vincent's the man, 4) lots and lots > of van Gogh on exhibition lately, 5) go stand in front of one and > see if you don't go wow. > > (Disclaimer: I have been to the van Gogh museum probably 5 times, > and the Kroller-Muller twice. I grew up with a print > of the sunflowers and was fascinated by the story of a guy who > cut off his own ear. I have a new catalogue of all his works, a > refrigerator magnet of "Terrace de Cafe" and in the bedroom, a > print of "Bedroom at Arles". At the apartment, there's a poster > from the Gaugin/van Gogh exhibition, and I went to the Art > Institute a lot as a kid (once or twice a year). I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:51:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEp7di028149 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:51:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E9D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:50:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:50:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEoOS32474 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:50:24 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEoN2f005868 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:50:23 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEoMJC005850; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:50:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226065248.00bd6500@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:53:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints In-Reply-To: References: <20031226035245.GA90605@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:38 AM 12/26/2003 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > In fact, I bet 50% haven't sold at all, and are some marketers joke or > > > weird guess. > > > > These are numbers since 1997, dude. > >Sez who, dudette. Yeah! If you want to see art, visit Bork's Blog. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:52:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEqRdi028177 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:52:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8E9E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:51:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:51:44 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEpiS32520 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:51:44 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQEphkK023253 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:51:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEC4AA6.2080806@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:50:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <3FEBA815.8060109@swbell.net> <20031226034921.GB64866@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 09:16:37PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For >>example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is >>vegetarian. I had no idea until recently. >> > > English-teaching hippies aren't real people. True. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:57:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEvidi028241 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:57:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:56:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:56:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEuvS00373 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:56:57 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEuuW1015979 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:56:56 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQEusWq015966; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:56:55 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:59:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Van Gogh In-Reply-To: <3FEC4A32.5070403@swbell.net> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:48 AM 12/26/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love >with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little >children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she >still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on >her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very >reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of >Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. It is so cool that you are exposing her at such a young age! I want to be Ana. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 08:57:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQEvwdi028246 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:57:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8E9EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:57:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:57:15 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQEvFS00418 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:57:15 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQEuXw7013679 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:56:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEC4BF0.2050301@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312260545.hBQ5jpS17916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:10 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> Yes. If I'm typical, as a former vegetarian, I've never >>really gone back to eating a lot of meat. Usually just >>dinner, if that. >> >> > I wish it was that easy! > The "Atkins thing" (low carb diet for life, not to lose > weight after overeating, but in response to insulin > resistance that caused obesity) is necessary to a lot of > us due to the fact that insulin resistance slides into > diabetes II. As it has done for my husband. That's why I still eat meat at dinner with him, although typically I don't eat that much -- he eats it all day. I did manage to eat very minimal sugar/corn syrup (none obvious, but I'm sure I ate it inadvertently) for several months last year, but fell off the wagon during the 'fest. I'm ready to start cutting out sugar and drastically reducing white flour again, though. I just need to find something to spread my taromosalata on (Dad has been sending me the big $4 jars since it is safer to ship the stuff when it is cold and I really, really love it). > It's a real dilemma for me - and presumably I'm not the > only former vegetarian in this fix. Eat lots of cheese! Yeah, that would suck. I need to lose 20 pounds. I'm terrified of diabetes. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:00:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQF0Adi028286 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:00:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 9:59:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:59:27 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQExQS00494 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:59:26 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQEwjw7014239 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:58:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEC4C74.1080303@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:57:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226093726.00b1a8d0@pop.gwi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 09:16 PM 12/25/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > I've met a lot of middle-aged vegetarians lately. For > >> example, nearly the entire English Dept. at WGHS is >> vegetarian. > > > That would be a bad place to be a carrot... Or one of those frozen vegetarian dinners from Whole Foods, which is what they all seem to eat every day. Nobody knows what I eat since I don't go to the teacher's lounge for lunch. It's a secret. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:05:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQF5Idi028411 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:05:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:04:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:04:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQF4ZS00868 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:04:35 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQF4X2f015079 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:04:34 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQF4WJC015062; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:04:33 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226070439.00a4b770@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:07:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Diabetes In-Reply-To: <3FEC4BF0.2050301@swbell.net> References: <200312260545.hBQ5jpS17916@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:55 AM 12/26/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Eat lots of cheese! Yeah, that would suck. I need to lose >20 pounds. I'm terrified of diabetes. Same here. I got the warning from my doctor and bought the book "Eat Away Diabetes" by Kristine Napier. I lost 20+ pounds. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:15:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFFUdi028706 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:15:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:14:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:14:47 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFElS01456 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:14:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EA21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:14:47 -0500 Message-Id: <200312261514.hBQFElS01456@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:14:47 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:09:33 -0500, bonniev wrote: Reinserting original context: >>Doris Markland wrote: >>> I've seen some statistics on the Atkins thing but >>> don't remember. I know that in my own experience >>> I am hearing people all around me talk about their >>> Atkins diet. In the last month I can count one >>> vegetarian I have eaten with and 12 people on Atkins. >>> The Atkins thing is probably very temporary, however, >>> and will pass. Those who go veg probably continue >>> veg. Rita replied: >> > Yes. If I'm typical, as a former vegetarian, I've never >> >really gone back to eating a lot of meat. Usually just >> >dinner, if that. >> > >>I wish it was that easy! > >You wish what was that easy? Not eating a lot of meat? I wish it were possible for a low-carb diet to be very temporary. > >>The "Atkins thing" (low carb diet for life, not to lose >>weight after overeating, but in response to insulin >>resistance that caused obesity) is necessary to a lot of >>us due to the fact that insulin resistance slides into >>diabetes II. > >Are you saying that a low carbohydrate diet is necessary for the insulin >resistant? The two women I know who are very into Atkins never mentioned >anything about that. > Possibly not. There are lots of people out there doing the Grapefruit diet still as well. Adam, however, has been talking about the necessity of low-carb diet for his health, and many of us are in a similar pickle. One way to think of it is that weight is sometimes the whole problem, and sometimes a symptom of a different problem - just as a headache is sometimes a symptom of something more serious. For the many of us for whom obesity is a side-effect of insulin resistance, the low-carb diet is key. >>It's a real dilemma for me - and presumably I'm not the >>only former vegetarian in this fix. >>clo > >I don't understand. What's the dilemma? Our Atkins diet Christmas dinner >guest was amazing. God, did she eat. I'm sure she consumed twice the >calories I did. She didn't have a sweet potato or a dinner roll. But she >ate about five helpings of goose. I made a creme brulee with Splenda for >her and she had that un-bruleed. Cream has no carbohydrates. I hadn't >realized that. Milk does. The most amazing thing was the gusto with which >she ate. She really shoveled it in like maybe she was starving. Or maybe >it's just me. I have no appetite with this cold and pretty much have to >remind myself and force myself to eat regularly throughout the day. > > >bonnie The dilemma is that I'd prefer not to eat such large quantities of animal protein. It's really tough not to eat meat control carbs. It's true that there are lots of good foods still available. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:19:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFJ3di028799 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:19:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:18:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:18:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFIGS01980 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:18:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B91F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:18:15 -0500 Message-Id: <200312261518.hBQFIGS01980@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:18:15 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:36:57 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >> Ha! There are more people like that than you think ... I >> have two explanations: one, they intuitively know something >> is a bad idea but can't readily produce the explanation. >> Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the other >> person can grasp the real explanation. And when you think > >Three: discussing the real explanation will bring up forbidden or >sensitive topics. > >Four: they think focussing on the real reason will put them at a >disadvantage in the power struggle. > >Five: they are tired of arguing over the real reason and think it will be >to their advantage to change the strategy. > >Ann Six: they become bored by the failure of logic, and begin to make random responses. Seven: they make a joke which is taken seriously. YaY, you are my hero - this is a fun game! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:21:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFLSdi028830 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:21:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EA39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:20:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:20:41 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFKfS02230 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:20:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:20:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200312261520.hBQFKfS02230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:20:41 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:48:18 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >steph wrote: > >> Diegetic Mutant Hog: >> = Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, >> = others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just >> = singular ... . >> = >> = Somewhat unexpected: the complete, total triumph of Vincent >> = van Gogh. Any explanation? >> = >> >> I think it's because 1) you want the cd, this is where it's sold, 2) it's >> easy to study art by studying van Gogh (or, it's easy to think >> it's easy to study art by starting with van Gogh), 3) if you >> thrive on visual stimulation, Vincent's the man, 4) lots and lots >> of van Gogh on exhibition lately, 5) go stand in front of one and >> see if you don't go wow. >> >> (Disclaimer: I have been to the van Gogh museum probably 5 times, >> and the Kroller-Muller twice. I grew up with a print >> of the sunflowers and was fascinated by the story of a guy who >> cut off his own ear. I have a new catalogue of all his works, a >> refrigerator magnet of "Terrace de Cafe" and in the bedroom, a >> print of "Bedroom at Arles". At the apartment, there's a poster >> from the Gaugin/van Gogh exhibition, and I went to the Art >> Institute a lot as a kid (once or twice a year). > > > I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love >with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little >children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she >still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on >her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very >reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of >Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. Or you could paint "A Starry Night" on her ceiling. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFQGdi028940 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:26:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:25:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:25:33 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFPWS02720 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:25:32 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQFPU57063955 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:25:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226102444.00bbc3c8@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:25:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <200312261514.hBQFElS01456@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The dilemma is that I'd prefer not to eat such large quantities of animal >protein. It's really tough not to eat meat control carbs. It's true >that there are lots of good foods still available. --clo Thanks. I think I get it now. One more question: How does one determine that one is insulin-resistant? Would it be a blood sugar test? bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:31:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFVIdi029112 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:31:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:30:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:30:35 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFUZS03090 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:30:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022B961@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:30:35 -0500 Message-Id: <200312261530.hBQFUZS03090@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:30:35 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:24:10 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >>> Yes. If I'm typical, as a former vegetarian, I've never >>>really gone back to eating a lot of meat. Usually just >>>dinner, if that. >>> >>> >> I wish it was that easy! >> The "Atkins thing" (low carb diet for life, not to lose >> weight after overeating, but in response to insulin >> resistance that caused obesity) is necessary to a lot of >> us due to the fact that insulin resistance slides into >> diabetes II. > > As it has done for my husband. That's why I still eat meat >at dinner with him, although typically I don't eat that much >-- he eats it all day. I did manage to eat very minimal >sugar/corn syrup (none obvious, but I'm sure I ate it >inadvertently) for several months last year, but fell off >the wagon during the 'fest. I'm ready to start cutting out >sugar and drastically reducing white flour again, though. I >just need to find something to spread my taromosalata on >(Dad has been sending me the big $4 jars since it is safer >to ship the stuff when it is cold and I really, really love it). > > >> It's a real dilemma for me - and presumably I'm not the >> only former vegetarian in this fix. > > > Eat lots of cheese! Yeah, that would suck. I need to lose >20 pounds. I'm terrified of diabetes. > > There's a lot to be scared of. If you are serious about avoiding it, instead of concentrating on the weight, see if your dr. understands endocrinology well enough to run tests of insulin levels. If not, maybe your husband's endocrinologist (diabetic specialist) will do it. If you have high insulin levels, you are insulin resistant. It's possible to take metformin (lets the body use insulin more efficiently) in a preventive dose in those circumstances. The person I know who did this due to PCOS lost 40 lbs by lowering her carb levels and taking metformin. Losing weight is the effect of being healthier - not the other way around. btw, I don't do Atkins. I use a common sense low-carb diet that includes one balanced meal and two low-carb meals daily - and low-carb snacking. The hard thing is that falling off the diet means a long climb out of lifelong habits of eating breads. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:33:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFXrdi029156 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:33:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:33:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:33:10 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFN9S02555 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:23:09 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hBQFN7Le001213 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:23:08 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBQFN7kN001212 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:23:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:23:07 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312261523.hBQFN7kN001212@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Much Better! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been in this net cafe before. Had forgotten it. Very much beats the brain-dead system I was looking at when BB called. Loved that phone call. Since then have had various WLMs, like walking past Virgil's, walking past the BIg Virgin and remembering Adam's ecstasy when in was inside the BV, etc. etc. I {heart} NY. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:34:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFYtdi029170 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:34:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EA57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:34:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:34:11 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFOBS02644 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:24:11 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hBQFO9Le001383 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:24:09 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBQFO9X5001382 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:24:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:24:09 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312261524.hBQFO9X5001382@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: PS Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The much-better net cafe is on 42nd St. near Broadway. I strolled down here through the blasting cold, wearing my cap that is smushing my hair and making it totally flat. Can't have everything, I guess. Just most things. Great trip. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:35:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFZhdi029194 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:35:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:34:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:35:00 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFYxd03531 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:34:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQFYw2f009528 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:34:58 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQFYvJC009513; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:34:57 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226073622.00bde290@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:37:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Bread In-Reply-To: <200312261530.hBQFUZS03090@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:30 AM 12/26/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >btw, >I don't do Atkins. I use a common sense low-carb diet that includes >one balanced meal and two low-carb meals daily - and low-carb snacking. >The hard thing is that falling off the diet means a long climb out of >lifelong habits of eating breads. > >clo Bread is my downfall. I had more than one homemade cinnamon roll yesterday for breakfast. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:39:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFdVdi029333 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:39:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022B944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:38:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:38:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFcld03708 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:38:47 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBQFckkF032617 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:38:46 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBQFcjL1032615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:38:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:38:45 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh Message-ID: <20031226153845.GA32412@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty: = At 08:48 AM 12/26/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: = > I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love = >with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little = >children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she = >still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on = >her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very = >reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of = >Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. = = It is so cool that you are exposing her at such a young age! I want to be = Ana. = = Betty Regardless of whether it correct or not, jeez, this sounds so out of touch (meaning: I have no idea whether you are or not, or for that matter whether I am or not (how's that for wishy-washy)). I mean, how is exposing the kid to art any different than literature, music, nature, horsemanship, waterskiing, swimming, public school, cooking, etc.? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:43:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFhidi029422 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:43:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:43:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:43:00 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFh0d03954 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:43:00 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQFgxrU024131 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:42:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FEC56AA.2070307@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312261530.hBQFUZS03090@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > There's a lot to be scared of. If you are serious about avoiding it, > instead of concentrating on the weight, see if your dr. understands > endocrinology well enough to run tests of insulin levels. If not, > maybe your husband's endocrinologist (diabetic specialist) will do it. I'm going to pull a Natalie and laugh at the idea of an endocrinologist. He doesn't have one. We use our GP for everything (I don't even have an OB/GYN -- since I'm not having any babies anymore, I don't see the need for dealing with their nonsense). > The person I know who did this due to PCOS lost 40 lbs by > lowering her carb levels and taking metformin. Losing weight is the > effect of being healthier - not the other way around. I'm not insulin resistant. And I'm at low risk of developing diabetes as it doesn't run in the family. My sister did get diabetes (shots and all) when she was pregnant for Bay, but she's weighed about 300 lbs. for as long as I remember, and I suspect that has something to do with it. > I don't do Atkins. I use a common sense low-carb diet that includes > one balanced meal and two low-carb meals daily - and low-carb snacking. > The hard thing is that falling off the diet means a long climb out of > lifelong habits of eating breads. Are beans carbs or proteins? I have a craving for white bean soup. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:46:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFk3di029458 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:46:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B9AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:45:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:45:19 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFjJd04284 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:45:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EA9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:45:19 -0500 Message-Id: <200312261545.hBQFjJd04284@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:45:19 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Much Better! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:23:07 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I've been in this net cafe before. Had forgotten it. Very much beats >the brain-dead system I was looking at when BB called. Loved that >phone call. Since then have had various WLMs, like walking past >Virgil's, walking past the BIg Virgin and remembering Adam's ecstasy >when in was inside the BV, etc. etc. > >I {heart} NY. > --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) BB's report was delightful - but even better to hear from you. So glad you're having a good time! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:48:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFm3di029512 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:48:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:47:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:47:20 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFlKd04466 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:47:20 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQFlJrU026141 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:47:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FEC57AE.1050305@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:45:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031226153845.GA32412@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Betty: > = At 08:48 AM 12/26/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > = > I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love > = >with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little > = >children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she > = >still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on > = >her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very > = >reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of > = >Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. > = > = It is so cool that you are exposing her at such a young age! I want to be > = Ana. > = > = Betty > > Regardless of whether it correct or not, jeez, this sounds so out > of touch (meaning: I have no idea whether you are or not, or for > that matter whether I am or not (how's that for wishy-washy)). I > mean, how is exposing the kid to art any different than > literature, music, nature, horsemanship, waterskiing, swimming, > public school, cooking, etc.? I don't take that much credit for it. She's had excellent art education in the public schools (none at all in the private school -- that was a waste of money). I didn't acquire any art literacy until college, and I've enjoyed what little I know -- a little bit of it goes a long way when wandering through museums. I'm glad she knows enough to enjoy art, which I just think is a Good Thing with no practical purpose whatsoever. Of course, she's also been exposed to everything else you mentioned, all Good Stuff. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:49:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFn4di029518 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EA8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:20 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFmKd04509 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:20 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQFmJrU026555 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:48:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FEC57EA.8070704@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:46:50 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints References: <200312261520.hBQFKfS02230@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:48:18 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>steph wrote: >> >> >>>Diegetic Mutant Hog: >>>= Some of these might surprise you because they are unexpected, >>>= others are surprising even though expected, and a few are just >>>= singular ... . >>>= >>>= Somewhat unexpected: the complete, total triumph of Vincent >>>= van Gogh. Any explanation? >>>= >>> >>>I think it's because 1) you want the cd, this is where it's sold, 2) it's >>>easy to study art by studying van Gogh (or, it's easy to think >>>it's easy to study art by starting with van Gogh), 3) if you >>>thrive on visual stimulation, Vincent's the man, 4) lots and lots >>>of van Gogh on exhibition lately, 5) go stand in front of one and >>>see if you don't go wow. >>> >>>(Disclaimer: I have been to the van Gogh museum probably 5 times, >>>and the Kroller-Muller twice. I grew up with a print >>>of the sunflowers and was fascinated by the story of a guy who >>>cut off his own ear. I have a new catalogue of all his works, a >>>refrigerator magnet of "Terrace de Cafe" and in the bedroom, a >>>print of "Bedroom at Arles". At the apartment, there's a poster >>>from the Gaugin/van Gogh exhibition, and I went to the Art >>>Institute a lot as a kid (once or twice a year). >>> >> >> I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love >>with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little >>children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she >>still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on >>her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very >>reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of >>Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. >> > > Or you could paint "A Starry Night" on her ceiling. LOL. I can't even write legibly ;). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:49:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFngdi029525 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:49:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EAA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:59 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFmwd04547 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:48:58 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQFmvW1025940 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:48:57 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBQFmuWq025904; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:48:56 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226074712.00a4e1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:51:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Van Gogh In-Reply-To: <20031226153845.GA32412@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:38 PM 12/26/2003 +0100, steph wrote: >Regardless of whether it correct or not, jeez, this sounds so out >of touch (meaning: I have no idea whether you are or not, or for >that matter whether I am or not (how's that for wishy-washy)). I >mean, how is exposing the kid to art any different than >literature, music, nature, horsemanship, waterskiing, swimming, >public school, cooking, etc.? I don't think a lot of children are exposed to the arts. I wasn't in Montana. I think you learn to appreciate it all more if you are exposed at a younger age. No? There is no doubt that I am out of touch. It's easier to be exposed to some of the things you listed. B From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:53:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFr3di029598 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:53:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022B9B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:52:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:52:20 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFqKd04723 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:52:20 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5BFFF2B8EA; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506822B559 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh In-Reply-To: <20031226153845.GA32412@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, steph wrote: > Regardless of whether it correct or not, jeez, this sounds so out > of touch (meaning: I have no idea whether you are or not, or for > that matter whether I am or not (how's that for wishy-washy)). I > mean, how is exposing the kid to art any different than > literature, music, nature, horsemanship, waterskiing, swimming, > public school, cooking, etc.? One difference between art, literature and music vs. the other things you mention is that adults label stuff kiddie art, kiddie lit, and kiddie music, and some adults "expose" their kids only to the kiddie stuff. Kiddie art is particularly loathsome, in my opinion. Well, now I have to take it back, because I like a lot of illustrations in children's books. I'm thinking Disney-oid. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 09:58:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQFwmdi029760 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:58:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EAC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:58:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:58:04 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFw4d05064 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:58:04 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 1FEBF2B8EC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FFD2B8E8 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:58:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 07:58:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: A Starry Night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's interesting to me that Ana likes this so much. My mother took me to NY MOMA once when I was a kid. I basically didn't get it - until we happened on A Starry Night. I didn't want to leave it. Actually I don't think even after they made me leave that room, I looked at much else. I wasn't through with A Starry Night, dammit. Hey now I'm getting mad about my childhood. She also dragged me away from the slot machine on the Lake Michigan ferry WHEN I WAS WINNING! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 10:00:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQG02di029792 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:00:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022B9CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:15 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQFxFd05168 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EACC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:14 -0500 Message-Id: <200312261559.hBQFxFd05168@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:59:14 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:30 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: Well, "I need to lose 20 lbs" didn't sound to me like insulin resistance; but I figured you had a reason for being concerned beyond what I knew, since I have a high opinion of you judgment. >> There's a lot to be scared of. If you are serious about avoiding it, >> instead of concentrating on the weight, see if your dr. understands >> endocrinology well enough to run tests of insulin levels. If not, >> maybe your husband's endocrinologist (diabetic specialist) will do it. > > I'm going to pull a Natalie and laugh at the idea of an >endocrinologist. He doesn't have one. We use our GP for >everything (I don't even have an OB/GYN -- since I'm not >having any babies anymore, I don't see the need for dealing >with their nonsense). > That's fine. I first realized I had a problem in the late '70s, and went to my dr., who prescribed a high-carb diet which made things much worse. I spent 25 yrs talking to GPs who thought that the ADA diet (low-fat, high carb) was the way to go. This continued even after I found that I could control my weight (in the sense of slowing the growing obesity) with a low-carb diet, and after I was diagnosed with DII. It wasn't till I took my mother to her Dr - an endocrinologist who's also a GP - that I heard of insulin-level testing and learned that there are ways to prevent diabetes or lessen its impact. I have yet to find a regular GP who understands the cycle. They all start the conversation with "if you weighed less..." > I'm not insulin resistant. And I'm at low risk of developing >diabetes as it doesn't run in the family. My sister did get >diabetes (shots and all) when she was pregnant for Bay, but >she's weighed about 300 lbs. for as long as I remember, and >I suspect that has something to do with it. > I suspect so too. You might suggest to her that she look into insulin resistance. >> I don't do Atkins. I use a common sense low-carb diet that includes >> one balanced meal and two low-carb meals daily - and low-carb snacking. >> The hard thing is that falling off the diet means a long climb out of >> lifelong habits of eating breads. > > > Are beans carbs or proteins? I have a craving for white bean >soup. > > They're both, of course. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 10:15:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQGFIdi029988 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:15:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EAE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:14:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:14:35 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQGEYd06177 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:14:34 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBQGEVRp020203 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:14:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c3cbcb$849baba0$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20031226074712.00a4e1c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Van Gogh Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:15:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't think a lot of children are exposed to the arts. I wasn't in > Montana. I think you learn to appreciate it all more if you are exposed at > a younger age. No? There is no doubt that I am out of touch. It's easier > to be exposed to some of the things you listed. > > B When I was a child we had art appreciation in class. I particularly remember it as I picture myself in the second grade room. (I can see the room just as it was and also my teacher Miss Hannum) At regular intervals the teacher passed out to each one of us a card with a beautiful painting by one of the masters. Those cards were my most priceless possession. I wonder whatever happened to them, as I do have a box of things saved from grade school. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 10:44:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQGiCdi030474 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EB20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:43:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 4987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:43:28 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQGhSd07543 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:43:28 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQGhO59071412; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:43:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226114010.00b35de0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:43:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <3FEC56AA.2070307@swbell.net> References: <200312261530.hBQFUZS03090@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:41 AM 12/26/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Are beans carbs or proteins? I have a craving for white bean >soup. Navy beans, 1 cup, boiled = 7 g. protein, 19 g. carbs. Courtesy Rombauer et al. (1997) Joy of Cooking cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 11:10:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQH9xdi030897 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:10:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EB55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:09:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:09:16 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQH9Fd08956 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:09:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQH9DGn017137 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:09:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226120119.00bbbe90@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:09:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Insulin Resistant In-Reply-To: <200312261559.hBQFxFd05168@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Clo responds to Rita: >Well, "I need to lose 20 lbs" didn't sound to me like insulin resistance; >but I figured you had a reason for being concerned beyond what I knew, > since I have a high opinion of you judgment. I'm confused again. If I read the recent posts correctly, Rita is saying that diabetes can be a result of obesity (lower your weight, lower your risk) and Clo is saying that one becomes obese because one is insulin resistant, a precursor of diabetes II. I have never heard this Clo. I thought as Rita thinks. Is it a vicious cycle or does one truly to put on weight because of insulin resistance? And how does one explain individuals who are diabetic but are not overweight? As an aside, I know one person who sees an endocrinologist and that is because she had to have a cancerous thyroid gland removed. She will be on Synthroid all her life and that needs to be monitored. But this endocrinologist put her on estrogen and progesterone ten or more years ago and told her that she should take it forever. When the recent findings came out about HRT, she stopped it, against medical advice. I guess the endocrinologist thought she needed it for her bones. But there are less risky ways to protect one's bones. bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 11:13:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQHD3di030976 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:13:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EB46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:12:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 5512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:12:19 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQHCId09088 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:12:18 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBQHCH57074079 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:12:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226121018.00bb7df0@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:12:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? In-Reply-To: <200312261559.hBQFxFd05168@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That's fine. I first realized I had a problem in the late '70s, and >went to my dr., who prescribed a high-carb diet which made things much >worse. What problem did you realize you had and for what did the dr. prescribe the high-carb diet? You weren't yet diagnosed with diabetes at that time and the dr. didn't know about insulin levels, so what was he treating you for? >I spent 25 yrs talking to GPs who thought that the ADA diet >(low-fat, high carb) was the way to go. This continued even after I >found that I could control my weight (in the sense of slowing the >growing obesity) with a low-carb diet, and after I was diagnosed with DII. >clo bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 14:07:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQK7ddi001841 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:07:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022BB9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:06:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 8007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:06:54 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQJusd17326 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:56:54 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQJtNDG001758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:55:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:56:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Checkin' in Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am back - or will be as soon as I gt back from PF - y'all can be annoying again. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 16:28:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQMScdi004587 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:28:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022BD3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:27:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:27:51 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQMRod25319 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:27:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQMRnTB012080 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:27:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FECB58B.1010001@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:26:19 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312261559.hBQFxFd05168@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:30 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >>> > > Well, "I need to lose 20 lbs" didn't sound to me like insulin resistance; > but I figured you had a reason for being concerned beyond what I knew, > since I have a high opinion of you judgment. I have a few irrational fears. I'm not sure this one is totally irrational considering statistics, but it's not really founded on anything other than being a chubby American. >> I'm not insulin resistant. And I'm at low risk of developing >>diabetes as it doesn't run in the family. My sister did get >>diabetes (shots and all) when she was pregnant for Bay, but >>she's weighed about 300 lbs. for as long as I remember, and >>I suspect that has something to do with it. >> >> > > I suspect so too. You might suggest to her that she look into insulin > resistance. She, being an R.N., knows everything, including that her various health issues are not in any way linked to her weight. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 16:30:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQMUYdi004628 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:30:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EDE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:29:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:29:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQMTmd25458 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:29:48 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBQMTkkF000905 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:29:47 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBQMTk5M000903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:29:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:29:46 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031226222946.GA897@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312261559.hBQFxFd05168@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FECB58B.1010001@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FECB58B.1010001@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = = She, being an R.N., knows everything, including that her = various health issues are not in any way linked to her weight. = Is that sincere or sarcasm? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 16:35:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQMZRdi004746 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:35:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EE03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:34:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:34:41 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQMYfd25794 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:34:41 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBQMXxw7023692 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:33:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FECB726.2020100@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:33:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312261559.hBQFxFd05168@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3FECB58B.1010001@swbell.net> <20031226222946.GA897@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = > = > = She, being an R.N., knows everything, including that her > = various health issues are not in any way linked to her weight. > = > > Is that sincere or sarcasm? Maybe she does. How would I know? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 17:35:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQNZJdi006083 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:35:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EE83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQNYWd28959 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BDBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:34:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200312262334.hBQNYWd28959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:34:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Insulin Resistant (loong) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:09:16 -0500, bonniev wrote: >Clo responds to Rita: > >>Well, "I need to lose 20 lbs" didn't sound to me like insulin resistance; >>but I figured you had a reason for being concerned beyond what I knew, >> since I have a high opinion of you judgment. > >I'm confused again. If I read the recent posts correctly, Rita is saying >that diabetes can be a result of obesity (lower your weight, lower your >risk) and Clo is saying that one becomes obese because one is insulin >resistant, a precursor of diabetes II. I have never heard this Clo. I >thought as Rita thinks. Is it a vicious cycle or does one truly to >put on weight because of insulin resistance? And how does one explain >individuals who are diabetic but are not overweight? > What intelligent questions! Last first, because it's easiest: insulin-dependent diabetes (the pancreas is worn-out, damaged, or malfunctioning, doesn't produce insulin/enough insulin; the person can't metabolize sugars and starves no matter how much is eaten) - juvenile type and late-stage adult type - is so severe that weight is lost unless insulin injections are given to supplement what the body makes, if any. Here's a barebones description of insulin resistance and diabetes: Here's what I understand: One particular type of overweight/obesity is in particular related to the pattern of weight gain following insulin resistance: if you gain weight around the middle (spare tire, beer belly, etc), you might be particularly interested in a low-carb diet. Strictly avoiding carbs, with a balenced diet that's rich in veggie vitamins, can allow the body to metabolize food more normally in spite of problems producing or using insulin. My weight gain began in a typical way: After being the same weight for 14 years or so w/ no particular effort or concern (147-152), I began to gain weight at the rate of, oh, 2-3 lb/mo. It was in the belly area, mostly. I couldn't change it by eating less; but I thought it was my fault because -well, because everybody said so, and because I had cravings for sugar that I couldn't control. I went to a clinic, was diagnosed "hypoglycemic", and told to eat small frequent meals of breads and fruit. It got worse; I started having dizzy spells, shaking hands if I went without eathing. I got fatter quicker. I was moving a lot back then, but doctors were uniform in what they told me: "you'd be in better health if you weighed less". "Fine, tell me how to do that" "Eat more carbs and less fat". When I finally flouted their advice, I was able to stop the shaking hands, the sudden irresistable mid-day drowsy spells, the cravings, and also the weight gain. Unfortunately, by that time, I had become diabetic. Then, they started giving me metformin. With metformin and diet, I have some control over my life, and my weight. I am now losing abt 5-10 lbs/year. That's not as much as I'd like; but it sure beats swelling up more! Having said what I think based on my experience (20+ lb/yr weight gain until I started limiting carbs and stopped limiting protein), may I also say the jury is still out on lots of claims, and I do think that Atkins is very extreme. Since I'm controlling what I eat to save my life, not to lose weight, YMMV on another diet. Also, I'd like to point out that, in opposition to the "high-protein = high fat" claim, I eat a relatively lower-in-fat diet now because fried (breaded) foods are carbed, as are (fried) chips, french fries, all those lovely dressings w/ HF corn syrup, etc. Steamed, stir-fried, baked or raw veggies w/ stir-fried or grilled fish, chicken, or red meat is a pretty clean menu. I do eat breads, more than I'd like. But my diet would allow me one "balanced" meal a day, in any case. I'll only go to strict low-carb if it's the only way to stay off insulin. has a good description of insulin resistance, according to the older medical model. It says that good diet is a key to reversing or slowing the trend to diabetes, but advocates "low fat" instead of targeting "low carb". It also says the people who lost weight on the low fat diet didn't get diabetes as much. Of course not, because they weren't at risk - they could lose weight eating carbs . You'll see a lot of different names for the cluster of problems: Metabolic syndrome, "Syndrome X", and so on. The different names finger different starting points in the cycle; but the end of the cycle is pretty much the same. It a vicious cycle. There is a hormonal component as well, particularly for women - PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome is one name for it. PCOS can include many cysts that set off bursts of testosterones (the generic group, not the specific male hormone), but also there is some interaction between insulin resistance, fat growth of a particular type (the fat also produces the hormones), and the female reproductive cycle. It's complex, and still unfolding in the medical literature. Lots of entry points into the cycle, and they feed each other. PCOS includes symptoms of heavy, irregular periods or no periods, infertility, hirsutism (heavy facial hair growth), male pattern baldness in women, obesity in spite of ordinary diet, and of course increased risk of heart attack, stroke, and the like. Even without having the entire syndrome, getting older usually means getting a "spare tire". Typically, as people age, they begin to use insulin less efficiently. The more insulin produced in response to sugars in the diet, the earlier this can happen. Genetics is also a factor, of course. >As an aside, I know one person who sees an endocrinologist and that is >because she had to have a cancerous thyroid gland removed. She will be on >Synthroid all her life and that needs to be monitored. But this >endocrinologist put her on estrogen and progesterone ten or more years ago >and told her that she should take it forever. When the recent findings >came out about HRT, she stopped it, against medical advice. I guess the >endocrinologist thought she needed it for her bones. But there are less >risky ways to protect one's bones. > >bonnie I have no choice but to take diabetes seriously, and I will go to anyone who takes seriously. In general, GPs are good and skillful; but they are so concerned abt not feeding into the predilection for fad diets, they can't seem to hear this basic fact: high-carb, low-fat diets make a lot of us fatter, not healthier. My paternal grandmother died of diabetic complications. There were only 5 grandaughters out of 20+ grandkids; 3 of us have diabetes PCOS symptoms. Of 11 aunts, I think three aren't diabetic. It's not a thing I can take lightly. My mother's diabetes is due to damage to her system from the RA meds; but my grandmother and my 1st MIL both had classic PCOS symptoms and died of heart problems typical in PCOS. I think DII is actually listed as a cause of death on my gram's death certificate. My mom and daughter see the same endocrinologist, who's a specialist in treating diabetes and familiar with PCOS. After literally 30 years of trying to find a dr who would work with me instead of telling me to eat more carbs, I found one who sent me to a gynecologist who's familiar with PCOS and could tell me why this is happening to me - to us. This GP is not ideal - I think from time to time about seeing Mom's Dr. But at least he listens to what I have to say, and reads the literature instead of assuming he knows, based on what he was taught back in med school, the Truth About Everything. My HA1C last time was 6.2 - just this side of normal (longterm sugar load). But if someone is worried abt being high-risk for diabetes, I'd strongly urge them to have their insulin levels tested, which is not something GPs think about. They tend to wait till the damage is done, and then say "oh, I see your sugar is high - how long have you been diabetic?", and then hand out the old ADA diet advice (low fat, high carbs - a near guarantee you will fail). clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 17:36:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQNaJdi006089 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:36:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022BDF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:35:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:35:32 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQNZWd29062 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:35:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EE9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:35:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200312262335.hBQNZWd29062@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:35:32 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Checkin' in To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:56:52 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I am back - or will be as soon as I gt back from PF - y'all can be >annoying again. > >Bethany Welcome to your annoyance, which is already in progress! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 17:40:43 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQNehdi006229 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:40:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EE9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:57 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQNdud29345 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022BDF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200312262339.hBQNdud29345@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:56 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:26:19 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:41:30 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >> >>>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >>>> >> >> Well, "I need to lose 20 lbs" didn't sound to me like insulin resistance; >> but I figured you had a reason for being concerned beyond what I knew, >> since I have a high opinion of you judgment. > > > I have a few irrational fears. I'm not sure this one is >totally irrational considering statistics, but it's not >really founded on anything other than being a chubby American. > > > >>> I'm not insulin resistant. And I'm at low risk of developing >>>diabetes as it doesn't run in the family. My sister did get >>>diabetes (shots and all) when she was pregnant for Bay, but >>>she's weighed about 300 lbs. for as long as I remember, and >>>I suspect that has something to do with it. >>> >>> >> >> I suspect so too. You might suggest to her that she look into insulin >> resistance. > > > She, being an R.N., knows everything, including that her >various health issues are not in any way linked to her weight. > That's not as far-fetched as you might think. Her ob-gyn may have said to her that gestational diabetes (while preggers) isn't linked to weight in particular. etc. And if she, like me, believes that the weight is a symptom of something else, - particularly if she is tired to death of being told she is a lazy slob who causes all her own problems by self-indulgence - she might be willing to listen to discussion of a question that doesn't blame overweight people for causing their health problems. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 17:49:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBQNnldi006381 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:49:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EEBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:49:00 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBQNn0d29951 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:49:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BDDE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:59 -0500 Message-Id: <200312262349.hBQNn0d29951@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:59 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:56 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:26:19 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman >wrote: >> >>>> I'm not insulin resistant. And I'm at low risk of developing >>>>diabetes as it doesn't run in the family. My sister did get >>>>diabetes (shots and all) when she was pregnant for Bay, but >>>>she's weighed about 300 lbs. for as long as I remember, and >>>>I suspect that has something to do with it. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I suspect so too. You might suggest to her that she look into insulin >>> resistance. >> >> >> She, being an R.N., knows everything, including that her >>various health issues are not in any way linked to her weight. >> >That's not as far-fetched as you might think. Her ob-gyn may have >said to her that gestational diabetes (while preggers) isn't linked >to weight in particular. etc. > >And if she, like me, believes that the weight is a symptom of something >else, - particularly if she is tired to death of being told she is a >lazy slob who causes all her own problems by self-indulgence - she might > be willing to listen to discussion of a question that doesn't blame >overweight people for causing their health problems. > >clo Eeep! I hope you know I wasn't referring to you, but to movies, sitcoms, drs, cow-orkers, Sunday school teachers, magazines, and the general public public who reinforce that fat people are gluttons w/out self control. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:12:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0CWdi006856 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:12:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EEEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:11:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:11:45 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR0Bjd31213 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:11:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBR0BeGp047406; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:11:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cwv@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226190303.00b4c128@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: cwv@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:10:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Insulin Resistant (loong) In-Reply-To: <200312262334.hBQNYWd28959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:34 PM 12/26/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I have no choice but to take diabetes seriously, and I will go to anyone >who takes seriously. In general, GPs are good and skillful; but they >are so concerned abt not feeding into the predilection for fad diets, they >can't seem to hear this basic fact: high-carb, low-fat diets make a lot >of us fatter, not healthier. My particular GP seems to have a different view. When my cholesterol count came back high (not alarm-bell-ringing high, but enough to be of concern), he and I talked. I was rather depressed because most of the things I like turn out to contain reasonable amounts of cholesterol. His reaction was that it was damned difficult to avoid cholestrerol, and of course, not all of it was bad. The key (in additon to controlling the cholesterol component within reasonable bounds) was to avoid simple carbs (white flour, regular pasta, snack foods, etc.) so that I was metabolising the fats I consumed. In concept, his advice is somewhat like the Atkins approach, but not nearly so fanatic. So far, his advice seems to be working. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:13:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0Dadi006891 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EED1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:12:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 13918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:12:41 -0500 Received: from aphrodite.gwi.net (aphrodite.gwi.net [207.5.128.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR0Ced31254 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:12:40 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by aphrodite.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBR0Ca57012488 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:12:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226191148.02a6aa60@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:12:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Insulin Resistant (loong) In-Reply-To: <200312262334.hBQNYWd28959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thanks for the long answer, Clo. I read every word and will read it again. I like to understand these things. >What intelligent questions! > >Last first, because it's easiest: insulin-dependent diabetes (the pancreas >is worn-out, damaged, or malfunctioning, doesn't produce insulin/enough >insulin; the person can't metabolize sugars and starves no matter how much >is eaten) - juvenile type and late-stage adult type - is so severe that >weight is lost unless insulin injections are given to supplement what the >body makes, if any. > >Here's a barebones description of insulin resistance and diabetes: > > >Here's what I understand: >One particular type of overweight/obesity is in particular related to the >pattern of weight gain following insulin resistance: if you gain weight >around the middle (spare tire, beer belly, etc), you might be particularly >interested in a low-carb diet. Strictly avoiding carbs, with a balenced >diet that's rich in veggie vitamins, can allow the body to metabolize food >more normally in spite of problems producing or using insulin. > >My weight gain began in a typical way: After being the same weight for >14 years or so w/ no particular effort or concern (147-152), I began to >gain weight at the rate of, oh, 2-3 lb/mo. It was in the belly area, mostly. >I couldn't change it by eating less; but I thought it was my fault because >-well, because everybody said so, and because I had cravings for sugar that >I couldn't control. > >I went to a clinic, was diagnosed "hypoglycemic", and told to eat small >frequent meals of breads and fruit. It got worse; I started having dizzy >spells, shaking hands if I went without eathing. I got fatter quicker. > >I was moving a lot back then, but doctors were uniform in what they told >me: >"you'd be in better health if you weighed less". >"Fine, tell me how to do that" >"Eat more carbs and less fat". > >When I finally flouted their advice, I was able to stop the shaking hands, >the sudden irresistable mid-day drowsy spells, the cravings, and also the >weight gain. Unfortunately, by that time, I had become diabetic. Then, they >started giving me metformin. With metformin and diet, I have some control >over my life, and my weight. I am now losing abt 5-10 lbs/year. That's not >as much as I'd like; but it sure beats swelling up more! > >Having said what I think based on my experience (20+ lb/yr weight gain >until I started limiting carbs and stopped limiting protein), may I also >say the jury is still out on lots of claims, and I do think that Atkins is >very extreme. Since I'm controlling what I eat to save my life, not to >lose weight, YMMV on another diet. Also, I'd like to point out that, in >opposition to the "high-protein = high fat" claim, I eat a relatively >lower-in-fat diet now because fried (breaded) foods are carbed, as are >(fried) chips, french fries, all those lovely dressings w/ HF corn syrup, >etc. Steamed, stir-fried, baked or raw veggies w/ stir-fried or grilled >fish, chicken, or red meat is a pretty clean menu. I do eat breads, more >than I'd like. But my diet would allow me one "balanced" meal a day, in >any case. I'll only go to strict low-carb if it's the only way to stay >off insulin. > > has a good description of insulin resistance, >according to the older medical model. It says that good diet is a key to >reversing or slowing the trend to diabetes, but advocates "low fat" instead >of targeting "low carb". It also says the people who lost weight on the >low fat diet didn't get diabetes as much. Of course not, because they >weren't at risk - they could lose weight eating carbs insulin resistant and could metabolize the carbs>. > >You'll see a lot of different names for the cluster of problems: Metabolic >syndrome, "Syndrome X", and so on. The different names finger different >starting points in the cycle; but the end of the cycle is pretty much the >same. > >It a vicious cycle. There is a hormonal component as well, particularly >for women - PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome is one name for it. PCOS >can include many cysts that set off bursts of testosterones (the generic >group, not the specific male hormone), but also there is some interaction >between insulin resistance, fat growth of a particular type (the fat also >produces the hormones), and the female reproductive cycle. It's complex, >and still unfolding in the medical literature. Lots of entry points into >the cycle, and they feed each other. > >PCOS includes symptoms of heavy, irregular periods or no periods, > infertility, hirsutism (heavy facial hair growth), male pattern baldness >in women, obesity in spite of ordinary diet, and of course increased risk >of heart attack, stroke, and the like. > >Even without having the entire syndrome, getting older usually means > getting a "spare tire". Typically, as people age, they begin to use > insulin less efficiently. The more insulin produced in response to > sugars in the diet, the earlier this can happen. Genetics is also a > factor, of course. > > >As an aside, I know one person who sees an endocrinologist and that is > >because she had to have a cancerous thyroid gland removed. She will be on > >Synthroid all her life and that needs to be monitored. But this > >endocrinologist put her on estrogen and progesterone ten or more years ago > >and told her that she should take it forever. When the recent findings > >came out about HRT, she stopped it, against medical advice. I guess the > >endocrinologist thought she needed it for her bones. But there are less > >risky ways to protect one's bones. > > > >bonnie >I have no choice but to take diabetes seriously, and I will go to anyone >who takes seriously. In general, GPs are good and skillful; but they >are so concerned abt not feeding into the predilection for fad diets, they >can't seem to hear this basic fact: high-carb, low-fat diets make a lot >of us fatter, not healthier. > >My paternal grandmother died of diabetic complications. There were only >5 grandaughters out of 20+ grandkids; 3 of us have diabetes PCOS > symptoms. Of 11 aunts, I think three aren't diabetic. It's not a thing I > can take lightly. > >My mother's diabetes is due to damage to her system from the RA meds; but > my grandmother and my 1st MIL both had classic PCOS symptoms and died of > heart problems typical in PCOS. I think DII is actually listed as a >cause of death on my gram's death certificate. > > My mom and daughter see the same endocrinologist, who's a specialist >in treating diabetes and familiar with PCOS. After literally 30 >years of trying to find a dr who would work with me instead of telling >me to eat more carbs, I found one who sent me to a gynecologist who's >familiar with PCOS and could tell me why this is happening to me - to us. >This GP is not ideal - I think from time to time about seeing Mom's Dr. >But at least he listens to what I have to say, and reads the literature >instead of assuming he knows, based on what he was taught back in med >school, the Truth About Everything. >My HA1C last time was 6.2 - just this side of normal (longterm sugar >load). >But if someone is worried abt being high-risk for diabetes, I'd strongly >urge them to have their insulin levels tested, which is not something >GPs think about. They tend to wait till the damage is done, and then >say "oh, I see your sugar is high - how long have you been diabetic?", >and then hand out the old ADA diet advice (low fat, high carbs - a near >guarantee you will fail). > >clo bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:17:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0H2di007011 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:17:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EEDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from pan.gwi.net (pan.gwi.net [207.5.128.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR0GFd31479 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:16:15 -0500 Received: from Bonniemae2003.gwi.net (d-216-195-152-62.gwi.net [216.195.152.62]) by pan.gwi.net (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBR0GDGn047689 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:16:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bonniev@gwi.net) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226191356.02a6b590@pop.gwi.net> X-Sender: bonniev@pop.gwi.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:16:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Non-white diet In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20031226190303.00b4c128@pop.gwi.net> References: <200312262334.hBQNYWd28959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The key (in additon to controlling the cholesterol >component within reasonable bounds) was to avoid simple carbs (white flour, >regular pasta, snack foods, etc.) so that I was metabolising the fats I >consumed. In concept, his advice is somewhat like the Atkins approach, but >not nearly so fanatic. So far, his advice seems to be working. >cwv It being a small town and a small island, Clyde's GP plays badminton and hikes with my friend April, who owns the Internet Cafe in town. When April quizzed the GP on one of their hikes as to what kind of diet was right for her to lose ten pounds, he gave his standard advice: "don't eat anything white." bonnie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:53:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0rfdi007769 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:53:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:52:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:52:54 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR0grd00780 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:42:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 61299 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 00:42:51 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:42:51 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031227004251.GA57722@words-l.org> References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:42:56PM +0000, Roy Jaques wrote: > On Thursday, Dec 25, 2003, at 18:35 Europe/London, Doris Markland wrote: > > >I think it highly likely that our U. S. beef supply > >is safe. I have questioned for a long time the > >safety of meat we import because some countries > >do not have the strict inspections systems they > >should have. > > Read the following. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1112561,00.html > > http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=476091 > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3348969.stm > > The only reason they seem to have found this case is that the one > they tested couldn't stand up. Testing around 20000 from 35 million > is not going to find much of anything. If the New Scientist is to be believed, tons of scientists have been hollering for testing for close to a year. I expect most got a pat on the arm and some wisdom about how real life is different from the lab and how "other countries" are much laxer ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:55:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0t8di007788 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:55:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EF46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:54:21 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR0iKd00829 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:44:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 61932 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 00:44:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:44:19 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: <20031227004419.GB57722@words-l.org> References: <20031226034842.GA64866@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:36:57AM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > Ha! There are more people like that than you think ... I > > have two explanations: one, they intuitively know something > > is a bad idea but can't readily produce the explanation. > > Two, and this is less benign: they don't think the other > > person can grasp the real explanation. And when you think > > Three: discussing the real explanation will bring up forbidden or > sensitive topics. > > Four: they think focussing on the real reason will put them at a > disadvantage in the power struggle. > > Five: they are tired of arguing over the real reason and think it will be > to their advantage to change the strategy. DID YOU HAVE TO GO THERE? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:55:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0tSdi007795 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:55:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BE6B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:54:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:54:41 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR0ied00834 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:44:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 62064 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 00:44:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:44:39 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031227004439.GC57722@words-l.org> References: <20031226035245.GA90605@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:38:08AM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > In fact, I bet 50% haven't sold at all, and are some marketers joke or > > > weird guess. > > > > These are numbers since 1997, dude. > > Sez who, dudette. Oh, NICE save! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:57:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0vDdi007827 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:57:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:56:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:56:26 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR0kQd00926 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:46:26 -0500 Received: (qmail 62985 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 00:46:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:46:24 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031227004624.GD57722@words-l.org> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FEC4A32.5070403@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FEC4A32.5070403@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 08:48:18AM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm not a big fan. Ana, on the other hand, has been in love > with his work since pre-school. I bought her a little > children's biography of van Gogh a few years ago, and she > still reads it regularly. I have a piece of needlework on > her wall (I don't know where it came from) that is very > reminiscent of his style. I should buy her a print of > Starry Night. Maybe when I paint her room this year. van Gogh would have been so happy to know that Starry Night is giving kids sweet dreams! I disagree with all 5 reasons given by Steph, BTW. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 18:59:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR0xbdi007881 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:59:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:58:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:58:50 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR0mnd01078 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:48:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 63862 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 00:48:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:48 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS Message-ID: <20031227004848.GE57722@words-l.org> References: <200312261524.hBQFO9X5001382@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312261524.hBQFO9X5001382@ra.msstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:24:09AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > The much-better net cafe is on 42nd St. near Broadway. What a remarkably obscure spot! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:00:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR10Pdi007930 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:00:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EF4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:37 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR0xbd01664 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022BEA4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:37 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: PS To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:48 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:24:09AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> The much-better net cafe is on 42nd St. near Broadway. > >What a remarkably obscure spot! Why, good evening, Tushar. How was your day? clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:19:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1JBdi008294 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:19:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:18:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:18:24 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR18Nd02080 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:08:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 74453 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 01:08:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:08:21 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh Message-ID: <20031227010821.GA68469@words-l.org> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say "stand in front of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't mean anything. In some form or the other (1) the style which is recognizable and seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old tradition; and/or (2) it has trickled down in many ways, some unrecognizable. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:20:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1KYdi008308 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:20:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EF4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:19:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 14994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:19:47 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR19kd02125 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:09:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 75067 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 01:09:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:09:45 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS Message-ID: <20031227010945.GA74521@words-l.org> References: <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 07:59:37PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:48 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > > >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:24:09AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> The much-better net cafe is on 42nd St. near Broadway. > > > >What a remarkably obscure spot! > > Why, good evening, Tushar. How was your day? Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:22:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1Mpdi008338 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:22:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EF67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:22:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:22:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR1M4d02662 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:22:04 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR1M3W1016605 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:22:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR1M1Wq016575; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:22:02 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226172421.00bdecf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:24:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: PS In-Reply-To: <20031227010945.GA74521@words-l.org> References: <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, Bless you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:26:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1Q8di008377 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:26:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EF6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:25:21 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR1FKd02356 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:15:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 77808 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 01:15:19 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:15:19 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: <20031227011519.GA75369@words-l.org> References: <200312260602.hBQ62aS20131@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312260602.hBQ62aS20131@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 01:02:36AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >I have a couple of examples from my family. I have also > >seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals go > >down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. > > What exactly defines "weaklings" in this context? People who lie like this *to strangers* *by default*. Both points are important. Someone who a priori believes that deception is necessary, for a case whose real merits they themselves see, is a shithead. I am disappointed I couldn't work on something cool, but damn glad the shitheads lost. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:52:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1qcdi008963 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:52:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EF85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:51:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:51:51 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR1ppd03863 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:51:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BEB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:51:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270151.hBR1ppd03863@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:51:51 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: PS To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:09:45 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 07:59:37PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:48:48 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog >> wrote: >> >> >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:24:09AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> The much-better net cafe is on 42nd St. near Broadway. >> > >> >What a remarkably obscure spot! >> >> Why, good evening, Tushar. How was your day? > >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, Sorry you've been under the weather. Woohoo for the meeting with Karen! clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:56:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1ucdi009017 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:56:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EF90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:55:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:55:50 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR1jnd03537 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:45:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 6899 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 01:45:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:45:47 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS Message-ID: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> References: <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4.2.2.20031226172421.00bdecf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20031226172421.00bdecf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 05:24:51PM -0800, Betty wrote: > At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be > >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, > > Bless you. No, thank YOU. Your bless is like juice from a hamburger running down the arms From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 19:57:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR1vbdi009027 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:57:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EF77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:56:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:56:50 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR1und04154 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:56:49 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBR1umkF001326 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:56:48 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBR1ulGU001324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:56:47 +0100 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:56:47 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031227015647.GA1312@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FEC4A32.5070403@swbell.net> <20031227004624.GD57722@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031227004624.GD57722@words-l.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I disagree with all 5 reasons given by Steph, BTW. They worked for me. Why shouldn't they work for the majority? Ooops, I've been making that mistake my whole life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:02:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR22bdi009123 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:02:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:01:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:01:49 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR21md04407 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:01:48 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR216w7013023 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:01:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FECE7A5.4090809@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:00:05 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312262349.hBQNn0d29951@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:56 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 16:26:19 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >> >>>Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 08:55:44 -0600, Rita Chapman >>>>>> >>wrote: >> >>>>> I'm not insulin resistant. And I'm at low risk of developing >>>>>diabetes as it doesn't run in the family. My sister did get >>>>>diabetes (shots and all) when she was pregnant for Bay, but >>>>>she's weighed about 300 lbs. for as long as I remember, and >>>>>I suspect that has something to do with it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I suspect so too. You might suggest to her that she look into insulin >>>>resistance. >>>> >>> >>> She, being an R.N., knows everything, including that her >>>various health issues are not in any way linked to her weight. >>> >>> >>That's not as far-fetched as you might think. Her ob-gyn may have >>said to her that gestational diabetes (while preggers) isn't linked >>to weight in particular. etc. >> >>And if she, like me, believes that the weight is a symptom of something >>else, - particularly if she is tired to death of being told she is a >>lazy slob who causes all her own problems by self-indulgence - she might >>be willing to listen to discussion of a question that doesn't blame >>overweight people for causing their health problems. >> >>clo >> > > > Eeep! I hope you know I wasn't referring to you, but to movies, sitcoms, > drs, cow-orkers, Sunday school teachers, magazines, and the general public > public who reinforce that fat people are gluttons w/out self control. There's a psychological component. As a child, she was gluttonous according to the classic definition -- eating way beyond when she was hungry, hoarding food in her room, etc. This always baffled my parents, since nobody else in the family has ever had any particular food issues. My niece is also strange about food; she once ate an entire box of sugar substitute. Very odd. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:04:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR24Mdi009211 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:04:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:03:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:03:35 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR23Yd04497 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:03:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR22rw7013561 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:02:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FECE810.6020504@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:01:52 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> <20031227004251.GA57722@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 12:42:56PM +0000, Roy Jaques wrote: > >>On Thursday, Dec 25, 2003, at 18:35 Europe/London, Doris Markland wrote: >> >> >>>I think it highly likely that our U. S. beef supply >>>is safe. I have questioned for a long time the >>>safety of meat we import because some countries >>>do not have the strict inspections systems they >>>should have. >>> >>Read the following. >> >>http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1112561,00.html >> >>http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=476091 >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3348969.stm >> >>The only reason they seem to have found this case is that the one >>they tested couldn't stand up. Testing around 20000 from 35 million >>is not going to find much of anything. >> > > If the New Scientist is to be believed, tons of scientists > have been hollering for testing for close to a year. I > expect most got a pat on the arm and some wisdom about > how real life is different from the lab and how "other > countries" are much laxer ... A program on NPR this afternoon had a long discussion about how lax our testing is in contrast to other countries. I guess Japan, among others, tests every single cow. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:06:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR269di009260 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:06:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:05:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:05:22 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR25Ld04573 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:05:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR24ew7014156 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:04:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FECE87B.1020206@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:03:39 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031227010821.GA68469@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say "stand in front > of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't mean anything. > In some form or the other (1) the style which is recognizable and > seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old tradition; and/or > (2) it has trickled down in many ways, some unrecognizable. You can see/feel the energy. There's nothing cold or impersonal about a van Gogh. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:10:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2APdi009340 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:10:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EF9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:09:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:09:37 -0500 Received: from web60708.mail.yahoo.com (web60708.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.231]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR29bd04680 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:09:37 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:09:32 PST Message-ID: <20031227020932.33635.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:09:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Hej, BB! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bowl Game! Normally, I am a VA Tech fan, but tonight I feel baaaad. I'm pulling for Cal. Tied at 7-7 at the moment. Go Bears!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:13:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2D0di009396 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:13:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EF8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:12:12 -0500 Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2CCd04809 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:12:12 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR2BUw7016735 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:11:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FECEA14.8010606@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:10:28 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l Subject: Speaking of dirty vegetables Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris might be interested to know that this guy http://www.gardenoflifeusa.com/company_jordan_rubin_story.shtml sez if we'd just eat more dirty plants, we'd all live to be 150. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:15:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2FQdi009442 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:15:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BEDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:14:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:13:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f29.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2Dqd04870 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:13:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:13:46 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.79 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:13:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.79] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Non-white diet Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:13:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2003 02:13:46.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F577C30:01C3CC1F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev: >quizzed the GP on one of their hikes as to what kind of diet was right for >her to lose ten pounds, he gave his standard advice: "don't eat anything >white." This is the diet that um, one of Howard Stern's regular guests swears by. She became famous as a "bimbo" - can't remember her name now. _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:18:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2IMdi009481 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:18:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EF9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:17:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:17:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f48.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2HYd05085 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:17:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:17:28 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.79 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:17:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.79] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: PS Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:17:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2003 02:17:28.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[936729D0:01C3CC1F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, Are you planning on getting her drunk again? _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access — limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:24:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2Oidi009681 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:24:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EFB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:23:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 15876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:23:57 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f61.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2Nud05289 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:23:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:23:51 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.79 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:23:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.79] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:23:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2003 02:23:51.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[7772AE10:01C3CC20] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph : >= = * Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable >= = bestseller of all) >= >= Your youthful angst did not express itself this way. > >ERrr, aarrgh. This is what happens when you don't take a close >look. I was thinking of the one where all forms of nastiness are >taking place. Are you thinking of the Elder Bruegel? (Bruegel the Elder, I guess is the right way to say it.) _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger — learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2awdi009880 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:36:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BF00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2aAd06359 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022BF33@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270236.hBR2aAd06359@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:10 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Inhaler question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:15:19 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 01:02:36AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >> >I have a couple of examples from my family. I have also >> >seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals go >> >down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. >> >> What exactly defines "weaklings" in this context? > >People who lie like this *to strangers* *by default*. Both >points are important. Someone who a priori believes that >deception is necessary, for a case whose real merits they >themselves see, is a shithead. I am disappointed I couldn't >work on something cool, but damn glad the shitheads lost. Ah, I see. I like shithead as a designation; clear and to the point. Weakling confused me though. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:40:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2eAdi009913 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:40:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EFD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:22 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2dMd06527 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022BF3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270239.hBR2dMd06527@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:22 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:00:05 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > There's a psychological component. As a child, she was >gluttonous according to the classic definition -- eating way >beyond when she was hungry, hoarding food in her room, etc. > This always baffled my parents, since nobody else in the >family has ever had any particular food issues. My niece is >also strange about food; she once ate an entire box of sugar >substitute. Very odd. > If you've been raised to consider this a psychological component, it's tough for you to consider the alternative explanation. What is it - "pica"? - the B12 deficiency that drives children to eat ants? Calcium craving that has them eating chalk - perhaps the insulin marker leads kids to have "food issues". clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:40:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2eGdi009916 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:40:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EFB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:28 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR2dSd06546 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:39:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:23 PST Message-ID: <20031227023923.80746.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:39:23 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Checkin' in To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I am back - or will be as soon as I gt back from PF > - y'all can be > annoying again. > > Bethany We never ceased. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:43:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2hwdi010072 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:43:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EFBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:43:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:43:10 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2hAd06738 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:43:10 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR2h9rU021086 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:43:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FECF155.9060606@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:41:25 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? References: <200312270239.hBR2dMd06527@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > If you've been raised to consider this a psychological component, > it's tough for you to consider the alternative explanation. I don't see why it would be tough. > What is it - "pica"? - the B12 deficiency that drives children > to eat ants? Calcium craving that has them eating chalk - perhaps > the insulin marker leads kids to have "food issues". Pica is eating dirt or laundry detergent, not ants. I don't know what would make you want to eat ants if they're not normally on the menu. I'm sure all sorts of things make you crave certain foods. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2kGdi010151 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:46:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EFD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:45:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:45:28 -0500 Received: from web60702.mail.yahoo.com (web60702.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.225]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR2jSd06840 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:45:28 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:45:22 PST Message-ID: <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:45:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: PS To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > Bless you. > > No, thank YOU. > > Your bless is like juice from a hamburger running > down the arms Or a day engulfed by orange juice. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:50:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2otdi010241 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:50:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8EFEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:50:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:50:07 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2o6d07082 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:50:06 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B91CD2B8F0; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF6F2B8EF for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:50:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:50:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh In-Reply-To: <20031227010821.GA68469@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say "stand in front > of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't mean anything. > In some form or the other (1) the style which is recognizable and > seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old tradition; and/or > (2) it has trickled down in many ways, some unrecognizable. 1. They are pictures -of- something. 2. But they do not pretend to be realistic in a photographic way. (So there's more to look at and forget and notice again, in a way that keeps you interested so you don't think, on second view, "oh I've seen that." 3. There's a lot to look at, and you don't have to be particularly sensitive to notice that there's a lot to look at. By 'a lot to look at' I mean a lot of action: patterns, brush strokes, color vibrations. I'm supposing this is what Rita means by 'energy.' 4. There's a mood, too, usually, but I don't know how important this is. 5. I'm not sure about this, what this fifth point is: something about the action in #3 being RECOGNIZABLE action. When I was a kid looking at The Starry Night, it felt like looking at a very starry sky only more so. You can get dizzy looking at it. It's like some old Dutch man saw it better than you, but with the same enthusiasm! !!! Maybe this is more what Rita means by 'energy.' Something about seeing something in a certain way and running with it. Only not TOO far. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:55:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2t8di010283 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:55:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8EFD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:54:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:54:20 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR2sKd07204 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:54:20 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:54:14 PST Message-ID: <20031227025414.63092.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:54:14 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Van Gogh To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Ann Borkin wrote: > > So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say > "stand in front > > of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't > mean anything. > > In some form or the other (1) the style which is > recognizable and > > seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old > tradition; and/or > > (2) it has trickled down in many ways, some > unrecognizable. > > 1. They are pictures -of- something. > 2. But they do not pretend to be realistic in a > photographic way. (So > there's more to look at and forget and notice again, > in a way that keeps > you interested so you don't think, on second view, > "oh I've seen that." > 3. There's a lot to look at, and you don't have to > be particularly > sensitive to notice that there's a lot to look at. > By 'a lot to look at' > I mean a lot of action: patterns, brush strokes, > color vibrations. I'm > supposing this is what Rita means by 'energy.' > 4. There's a mood, too, usually, but I don't know > how important this is. > 5. I'm not sure about this, what this fifth point > is: something about > the action in #3 being RECOGNIZABLE action. When I > was a kid looking at > The Starry Night, it felt like looking at a very > starry sky only more so. > You can get dizzy looking at it. It's like some old > Dutch man saw it > better than you, but with the same enthusiasm! > !!! Maybe this is more > what Rita means by 'energy.' > > Something about seeing something in a certain way > and running with it. > Only not TOO far. Excellent! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 20:57:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR2vmdi010340 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:57:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8EFE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:57:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:57:00 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR2v0d07314 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:57:00 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 10E792B8F2; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0657B2B8F0 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:57:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:56:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: Girl with a Pearl Earring Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my opinion. The movie was slightly better. Probably because it didn't have the girl's narration, I don't know. Because even though it's pretty obvious to have the whole damned movie look like a Vermeer, still it strived for a standard and was often good to look at. I guess. Thank god Spielberg didn't make this movie (but of course I wouldn't have seen it in that case) . Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:06:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR36Udi010448 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:06:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022BF6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:05:42 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR35gd07899 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:05:42 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003122703053601100i74age> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:05:36 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:05:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200312261514.hBQFElS01456@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > still as well. Adam, however, has been talking about the necessity of > low-carb diet for his health, and many of us are in a similar pickle. Yup. I must say, now, that having been lower-carbing it for ...almost two years now, I'm used to it. I do miss all the potatoes and bread I used to eat, but I don't miss the weight I lost or how crappy I used to feel. > The dilemma is that I'd prefer not to eat such large quantities of animal > protein. It's really tough not to eat meat control carbs. It's true > that there are lots of good foods still available. Carolyn, vegetables are your friend. Really. I dislike salad but I eat a lot of it. It's either that or go hungry in my case. I also eat a lot of veggies at dinner. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:18:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3IBdi010713 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:18:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F018@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:17:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16739 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:17:23 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3HNd08370 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:17:23 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003122703171801600ssqgke> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:17:18 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Insulin Resistant (loong) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:17:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200312262334.hBQNYWd28959@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > My HA1C last time was 6.2 That's great!!!! Your hard work is paying off. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:22:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3Mgdi010751 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:22:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F01D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:21:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:21:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3Lrd08513 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:21:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BF4F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:21:52 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270321.hBR3Lrd08513@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:21:52 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:41:25 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > > >> If you've been raised to consider this a psychological component, >> it's tough for you to consider the alternative explanation. > > > I don't see why it would be tough. > > >> What is it - "pica"? - the B12 deficiency that drives children >> to eat ants? Calcium craving that has them eating chalk - perhaps >> the insulin marker leads kids to have "food issues". > > > Pica is eating dirt or laundry detergent, not ants. I don't >know what would make you want to eat ants if they're not >normally on the menu. I'm sure all sorts of things make you >crave certain foods. Pica is eating non-food items, as culturally defined (in other words, some things count as food in one place but not another; when taboo, they count as pica). One of the established reasons for pica is a deficiency which creates a craving. I did mispeak - it's folic acid, not B12, that ants are high in. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:24:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3OFdi010766 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F003@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:23:27 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3NRd08630 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:23:27 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde (h0000395afdd6.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.91.237.95]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2003122703232201200qp05de> (Authid: adamh1); Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:23:22 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:23:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <200312262339.hBQNdud29345@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > lazy slob who causes all her own problems by self-indulgence Sigh...ain't that the truth... I got that for 20 years, and I ate no more than anyone else I knew of normal weight. Most of my thin friends ate way more than I did. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:24:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3Oodi010772 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:24:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F004@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:24:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:24:02 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3O2d08659 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:24:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F016@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:24:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270324.hBR3O2d08659@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:24:02 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 18:56:59 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my >opinion. > >The movie was slightly better. Probably because it didn't have the girl's >narration, I don't know. Because even though it's pretty obvious to have >the whole damned movie look like a Vermeer, still it strived for a >standard and was often good to look at. I guess. > >Thank god Spielberg didn't make this movie (but of course I wouldn't have >seen it in that case) . > >Ann And it wouldn't have looked like a Vermeer. A friend of mine is pushing me to make a date to see this movie. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:27:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3RRdi010832 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:27:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022BF86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:26:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:26:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3Qcd08824 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:26:38 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BF57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:26:38 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270326.hBR3Qcd08824@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:26:38 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Insulin Resistant (loong) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:17:17 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: >> My HA1C last time was 6.2 > >That's great!!!! Your hard work is paying off. > >--Adam Well, it was... I always slip in the holidays. But all this talk encouraged me to get back on the wagon today. I ate a super stir fry w/ my folks, and they took the leftovers home. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:49:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3nwdi011292 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:49:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BF7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:49:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 16977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:49:09 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3d9d09479 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:39:09 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR3bcDG005169 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:37:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:39:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Christmas Tree Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am happy to report that some parts of Christendom still honor the season of Christmas - and also put the tree up when it is supposed to go up. At Gethesemani, monks cut the tree for the Guest House early on Christmas Eve, then brought it to the Guest House, trimmed it a bit, and set it up on our second-story porch. The Guestmaster had the decorations brought out, then I stepped in and announced that there was no need for the novices to decorate that tree, as had been announced, since I could do that. (The novices happened to have a few dozen other things to do that morning.) I had a little help from two other retreatants, but I did most of the decorating, creating a red/gold theme from the available decorations. That was great fun - I had not decorated a tree at home for several years. (And I won't have to take this one down on January 6!) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:53:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3rIdi011336 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:53:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022BFC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:52:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:52:21 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3qLd10212 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:52:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022BF94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:52:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200312270352.hBR3qLd10212@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:52:21 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Christmas Tree To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:39:07 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I am happy to report that some parts of Christendom still honor the season >of Christmas - and also put the tree up when it is supposed to go up. > >At Gethesemani, monks cut the tree for the Guest House early on Christmas >Eve, then brought it to the Guest House, trimmed it a bit, and set it up >on our second-story porch. The Guestmaster had the decorations brought >out, then I stepped in and announced that there was no need for the >novices to decorate that tree, as had been announced, since I could do >that. (The novices happened to have a few dozen other things to do that >morning.) > >I had a little help from two other retreatants, but I did most of the >decorating, creating a red/gold theme from the available decorations. > >That was great fun - I had not decorated a tree at home for several years. >(And I won't have to take this one down on January 6!) > >Bethany I'm so glad that you had a good time. I feel certain that the tree was lovely. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:57:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3vldi011393 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:57:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F064@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:56:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 17642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:56:59 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3uxd10540 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:56:59 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBR3uwrU014514 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:56:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3FED028D.8090905@swbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:54:53 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my > opinion. I didn't like the book at all. I couldn't figure out the POINT of the thing. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 21:59:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR3xsdi011413 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:59:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F09A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:59:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 18052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:59:05 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR3x5d10802 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:59:05 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6B0C52B8F0; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B032B8DC for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:59:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring In-Reply-To: <200312270324.hBR3O2d08659@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A friend of mine is pushing me to make a date to see this movie. > clo It's worth seeing. It's worth not seeing. It is NOT worth adulation, reverence, or any kind of fucking award. Which it will get. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 22:13:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR4DFdi011653 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:13:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F28E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:12:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 19423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:12:26 -0500 Received: from mail1.nymc.edu (mail1.nymc.edu [198.242.81.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR42Pd11705 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:02:26 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: NYC Tomorrow Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: NYC Tomorrow Thread-Index: AcPMIY9BesGv5msHSHuhcbHFdpkM2w== From: "ASCHER MARIE" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBR42Qd11706 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been incommunicado for several days -- no email (optonline is not letting me send messages again) and no computer (out of town) and kinda illin'. And therefore unable to report that there was no getting a reservation at The Red Cat for tomorrow. However, I did make a reservation for another Jimmy Bradley restaurant for tomorrow at 6:30 PM -- The Mermaid at 96 Second Ave http://www.themermaidnymc.com . For seven. It's a seafood restaurant, also supposed to be very good. I don't know how to get in touch with everyone who needs this information. Where is Natalie staying? And Janet? Rashmi, Terry, please confirm if you get this. I hope this works out. I left a credit card number with them for the reservation so I need to know by 3 PM tomorrow... I can read via the list, just can't respond. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 22:17:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR4Hbdi011729 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:17:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F29C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:16:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:16:48 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f22.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR4Gmd13467 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:16:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:16:42 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.218 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:16:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.218] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:16:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2003 04:16:42.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B8F00F0:01C3CC30] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: >I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my >opinion. What?! You're the last person I'd have picked to see this movie. I didn't like the book and don't care for what I've heard of the movie. I like Scarlett Johannson (sp.-where's K@r3n) but it's not enough to get me to go. _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 22:33:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR4XGdi012165 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:33:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F2D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:32:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:32:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (bay99-f60.bay99.hotmail.com [65.54.175.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR4WRd14091 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:32:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:32:21 -0800 Received: from 69.72.5.218 by by99fd.bay99.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:32:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.72.5.218] X-Originating-Email: [rmirth@hotmail.com] X-Sender: rmirth@hotmail.com From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: NYC Tomorrow Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:32:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2003 04:32:21.0885 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B6702D0:01C3CC32] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Gotcha! We're meeting at Mermaid, not the Red Cat. I'll contact Natalie tomorrow and tell her about the new venue. Does anyone know where Janet and the dudes are staying? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 22:46:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR4kpdi012372 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:46:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F2EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:46:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:46:02 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR4k2d14594 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:46:02 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBR4jvRp017486 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:45:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002b01c3cc34$82fd2620$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> <20031227004251.GA57722@words-l.org> <3FECE810.6020504@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:47:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > A program on NPR this afternoon had a long discussion about > how lax our testing is in contrast to other countries. I > guess Japan, among others, tests every single cow. > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > Think numbers. They don't have huge numbers. That's why they import so many from us. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 22:49:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR4ngdi012389 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:49:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F2EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:48:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:48:53 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR4mrd14753 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:48:53 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBR4mnRp020882 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:48:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003401c3cc34$e97db040$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3FECEA14.8010606@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Speaking of dirty vegetables Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:50:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris might be interested to know that this guy > > http://www.gardenoflifeusa.com/company_jordan_rubin_story.shtml > > sez if we'd just eat more dirty plants, we'd all live to be > 150. > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman Interesting. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:08:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR58vdi012657 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:08:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F3B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:08:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:07:38 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR4svd15008 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:54:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 37316 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 04:54:55 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:54:55 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031227045455.GA36436@words-l.org> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3FEC4A32.5070403@swbell.net> <20031227004624.GD57722@words-l.org> <20031227015647.GA1312@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031227015647.GA1312@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 02:56:47AM +0100, steph wrote: > > = I disagree with all 5 reasons given by Steph, BTW. > > They worked for me. Why shouldn't they work for the majority? > Ooops, I've been making that mistake my whole life. There is a more basic reason ... If they work for a person, any person, they are not the answer to the question at all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:18:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5IOdi012884 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:18:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F3F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:17:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:17:35 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR53Yd16152 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:03:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 41513 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:03:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:03:32 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh Message-ID: <20031227050332.GB36436@words-l.org> References: <20031226025009.GB93161@words-l.org> <20031226091931.GA32028@yoccoz.multinix.com> <4.2.2.20031226065812.00a4ced0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20031227010821.GA68469@words-l.org> <3FECE87B.1020206@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FECE87B.1020206@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 08:03:39PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say "stand in front > >of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't mean anything. > >In some form or the other (1) the style which is recognizable and > >seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old tradition; and/or > >(2) it has trickled down in many ways, some unrecognizable. > > > You can see/feel the energy. There's nothing cold or > impersonal about a van Gogh. Yeah, why? What are the roots of this response to those paintings? Did you somehow grow up among such images that this would pretty much follow? Visible and perceptible "energy" is hardly inherent in it. I remember seeing my first (tiny faint black-and-white on yellowed paper) image of Starry Night. I couldn't make head or tail of it, and frankly thought it was ugly and dull, but bought what the "explanation" beside it said, since it was easy enough to do. For sure I GREW to like it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5IRdi012888 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:18:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F3DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:17:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:17:38 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR56ud16507 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:06:56 -0500 Received: (qmail 44829 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:06:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:06:54 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Inhaler question Message-ID: <20031227050654.GD36436@words-l.org> References: <200312270236.hBR2aAd06359@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312270236.hBR2aAd06359@listserv.cc.uga.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:36:10PM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:15:19 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog > wrote: > > >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 01:02:36AM -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: > >> >I have a couple of examples from my family. I have also > >> >seen a couple of reasonably good software proposals go > >> >down the toilet due to inappropriate selling by weaklings. > >> > >> What exactly defines "weaklings" in this context? > > > >People who lie like this *to strangers* *by default*. Both > >points are important. Someone who a priori believes that > >deception is necessary, for a case whose real merits they > >themselves see, is a shithead. I am disappointed I couldn't > >work on something cool, but damn glad the shitheads lost. > > Ah, I see. > I like shithead as a designation; clear and to the point. > Weakling confused me though. It really is shitheadedness arising from lack of courage. Not arrogance, or any other vice in that camp. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:18:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5IUdi012891 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:18:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F3EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:17:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:17:41 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR55Wd16412 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:05:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 42471 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:05:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:05:30 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS Message-ID: <20031227050530.GC36436@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 02:17:28AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be > >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, > > Are you planning on getting her drunk again? Well, that trap has been foiled. It's going to be "morning tea" on the old library grounds. Hm, why foiled? I don't know why I said it was foiled, sorry. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:19:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5JPdi012927 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:19:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F3E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:18:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24440 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:18:36 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR58ad16693 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:08:36 -0500 Received: (qmail 45537 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:08:34 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:08:34 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS Message-ID: <20031227050834.GE36436@words-l.org> References: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:45:22PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > Bless you. > > > > No, thank YOU. > > > > Your bless is like juice from a hamburger running > > down the arms > > Or a day engulfed by orange juice. We agree like 42nd and Broadway intersecting. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:21:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5L4di012990 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:21:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F3F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:20:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24466 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:20:15 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR5AFd16805 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:10:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 46405 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:10:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:10:13 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Tree Message-ID: <20031227051013.GF36436@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 10:39:07PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I am happy to report that some parts of Christendom still honor the season > of Christmas - and also put the tree up when it is supposed to go up. That's so last century! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:23:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5NDdi013063 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:23:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F3FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:22:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:22:24 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR5COd16909 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:12:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 47245 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:12:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:12:22 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring Message-ID: <20031227051222.GG36436@words-l.org> References: <3FED028D.8090905@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FED028D.8090905@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:54:53PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Ann Borkin wrote: > > >I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my > >opinion. > > > I didn't like the book at all. I couldn't figure out the > POINT of the thing. It was transformational grammar. The 's -> The with the You fell for it, weakling. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:25:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5Pbdi013200 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:25:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022C2EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:24:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:24:48 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR5Emd17023 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:14:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 48338 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:14:46 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:14:46 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where Will the Blood Come From? Message-ID: <20031227051446.GI36436@words-l.org> References: <000401c3cb15$f1516160$99cadece@0018079268> <079C4D19-37A1-11D8-BF94-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> <20031227004251.GA57722@words-l.org> <3FECE810.6020504@swbell.net> <002b01c3cc34$82fd2620$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002b01c3cc34$82fd2620$99cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 10:47:20PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > A program on NPR this afternoon had a long discussion about > > how lax our testing is in contrast to other countries. I > > guess Japan, among others, tests every single cow. > > Think numbers. They don't have huge numbers. > That's why they import so many from us. I thought this "completely missing the point about the Japanese" fashion died 20 years ago ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5hHdi013657 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F406@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:26:13 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR5GCd17137 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:16:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 49127 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:16:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:16:10 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh Message-ID: <20031227051610.GJ36436@words-l.org> References: <20031227010821.GA68469@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:50:05PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say "stand in front > > of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't mean anything. > > In some form or the other (1) the style which is recognizable and > > seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old tradition; and/or > > (2) it has trickled down in many ways, some unrecognizable. > > 1. They are pictures -of- something. > 2. But they do not pretend to be realistic in a photographic way. (So > there's more to look at and forget and notice again, in a way that keeps > you interested so you don't think, on second view, "oh I've seen that." > 3. There's a lot to look at, and you don't have to be particularly > sensitive to notice that there's a lot to look at. By 'a lot to look at' > I mean a lot of action: patterns, brush strokes, color vibrations. I'm > supposing this is what Rita means by 'energy.' > 4. There's a mood, too, usually, but I don't know how important this is. > 5. I'm not sure about this, what this fifth point is: something about > the action in #3 being RECOGNIZABLE action. When I was a kid looking at > The Starry Night, it felt like looking at a very starry sky only more so. > You can get dizzy looking at it. It's like some old Dutch man saw it > better than you, but with the same enthusiasm! !!! Maybe this is more > what Rita means by 'energy.' > > Something about seeing something in a certain way and running with it. > Only not TOO far. You make some interesting point, Dr Borkin. But then, why not the impressionists? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5hHdi013659 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:32:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR5Wdd17954 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:32:40 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR5WcW1010565 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:32:38 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR5WbWq010534; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:32:38 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226213516.00bf8100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:35:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: PS In-Reply-To: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> References: <4.2.2.20031226172421.00bdecf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <200312270059.hBR0xbd01664@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <4.2.2.20031226172421.00bdecf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:45 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 05:24:51PM -0800, Betty wrote: > > At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be > > >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, > > > > Bless you. > >No, thank YOU. > >Your bless is like juice from a hamburger running down the arms Lick it! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5hHdi013660 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F404@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:33:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:33:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (lurk.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR5XId17978 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:33:18 -0500 Received: from uclink-l.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR5XH2f023028 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:33:17 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-l.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR5XGJC023017; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:33:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226213554.00bf9890@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:36:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: PS In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:17 AM 12/27/2003 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > >>Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be >>fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, > >Are you planning on getting her drunk again? And having your way with her? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5hHdj013656 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F432@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:41:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:41:32 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR5fWd18252 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:41:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBR5fSRp022039 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:41:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031227050834.GE36436@words-l.org> Subject: Re: Re: PS Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:42:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:45:22PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > Bless you. > > > > > > No, thank YOU. > > > > > > Your bless is like juice from a hamburger running > > > down the arms > > > > Or a day engulfed by orange juice. > > We agree like 42nd and Broadway intersecting. Hey, they have just announced that "embedded" is the word of the year. Can't you manage to work that in in some way. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5hHdi013658 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F413@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:30:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:30:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR5Uod17866 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:30:51 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR5UnW1009663 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:30:49 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBR5UlWq009656; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:30:48 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031226213253.00bf4d40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:33:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hej, BB! In-Reply-To: <20031227020932.33635.qmail@web60708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: >Bowl Game! Normally, I am a VA Tech fan, but tonight >I feel baaaad. I'm pulling for Cal. Tied at 7-7 at >the moment. Go Bears!! We won!!! The kids just called from the stadium. A friend called from Florida. Go, Bears! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Dec 26 23:43:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR5hHdi013656 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 0:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 24517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:23:12 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR5DBd16939 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:13:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 47696 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 05:13:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:13:10 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring Message-ID: <20031227051310.GH36436@words-l.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 04:16:42AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Ann Borkin wrote: > > >I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my > >opinion. > > What?! You're the last person I'd have picked to see this movie. Must have been pushed into a date ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 00:49:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR6nDdi015167 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:49:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022C395@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 1:48:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 26101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:48:16 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR6cFd21717 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:38:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 15307 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 06:38:13 -0000 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:38:13 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS Message-ID: <20031227063813.GA14196@words-l.org> References: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031227050834.GE36436@words-l.org> <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 11:42:50PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:45:22PM -0800, Lynne Weber wrote: > > > --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > > > > Bless you. > > > > > > > > No, thank YOU. > > > > > > > > Your bless is like juice from a hamburger running > > > > down the arms > > > > > > Or a day engulfed by orange juice. > > > > We agree like 42nd and Broadway intersecting. > > Hey, they have just announced that "embedded" > is the word of the year. Can't you manage to > work that in in some way. Let's be honest. Are YOU prepared to say in public any metaphor with that word that you thought of? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 01:38:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR7c8di015978 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:38:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F60A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 2:37:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:37:18 -0500 Received: from host.tmetic.com (host.tmetic.com [65.214.160.131]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBR7RId25628 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:27:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 44104 invoked by uid 1003); 27 Dec 2003 07:27:16 -0000 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 01:27:16 -0600 From: Diegetic Mutant Hog To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: What a good dog Message-ID: <20031227072716.GA23113@words-l.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A little known fact about take-home lamb stew cooked Indian- style is dogs go CRAZY after it. Have you ever seen a perfectly ordinary-looking dog lunging at a white plastic bag with "Thank You" printed on it? I have seen two. So when I was walking home today carrying just this concoction, and saw a young bull-mastiff type crossing my path, I said "damn"! It never fails ... As I passed him I could hear his sharp intake of breath, and an inchoate growl forming ... And then this damn dog made a move towards me, and then with a titanic effort he just stopped. You could practically feel his nerves overheating. And I look down the street and there's some kid--the "owner"-- taking his damn time walking up, without the slightest awareness of what was going on. That was a GOOD dog! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 03:09:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBR99Hdi017680 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:09:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F67E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 4:08:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 28921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:08:26 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBR98Fd29162 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:08:23 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBR98DkF002344 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:08:13 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBR98CjB002342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:08:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:08:12 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bestselling art prints Message-ID: <20031227090812.GA2296@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy: = steph : = = >= = * Hieronymus Bosch, "Garden of Earthly Delights" (the least explicable = >= = bestseller of all) = >= = >= Your youthful angst did not express itself this way. = > = >ERrr, aarrgh. This is what happens when you don't take a close = >look. I was thinking of the one where all forms of nastiness are = >taking place. = = Are you thinking of the Elder Bruegel? (Bruegel the Elder, I guess = is the right way to say it.) = I think I was thinking of Bosch's "Last Judgement", but this doesn't seem quite right either (though it certainly has lots of nastiness). Breugel also has that "Where's Waldo" level of activity, but I'm sure it's none of his works. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 07:11:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRDB9di022057 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:11:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F7F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:10:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31855 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:10:16 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRDAGd09343 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:10:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022C63C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:09:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200312271310.hBRDAGd09343@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:09:30 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: Van Gogh To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:03:32 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 08:03:39PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >> Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> >So, what's the mystery of van Gogh? We can't say "stand in front >> >of the picture and see for yourself"--that doesn't mean anything. >> >In some form or the other (1) the style which is recognizable and >> >seemingly unique is nevertheless rooted in an old tradition; and/or >> >(2) it has trickled down in many ways, some unrecognizable. >> >> >> You can see/feel the energy. There's nothing cold or >> impersonal about a van Gogh. > >Yeah, why? What are the roots of this response to those paintings? >Did you somehow grow up among such images that this would pretty >much follow? Visible and perceptible "energy" is hardly inherent >in it. > >I remember seeing my first (tiny faint black-and-white on yellowed >paper) image of Starry Night. I couldn't make head or tail of it, >and frankly thought it was ugly and dull, but bought what the >"explanation" beside it said, since it was easy enough to do. >For sure I GREW to like it. How was Starry Night described when it was first shown, in 1905 or so? I suspect we have been acculturated to view it as beautiful. If early viewers "didn't get it", it would be a good indicator. clo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 07:12:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRDCPdi022082 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:12:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F7FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:11:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:11:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRDBXd09459 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:11:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022C671@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200312271311.hBRDBXd09459@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:11:17 -0500 From: Carolyn Ostrander Subject: Re: PS To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:05:30 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 02:17:28AM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> At 07:09 PM 12/26/2003 -0600, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> >> >Still sniffling and coughing. But I am pretty sure I will be >> >fine for the K4r3n meeting tomorrow, >> >> Are you planning on getting her drunk again? > >Well, that trap has been foiled. It's going to be "morning tea" >on the old library grounds. > >Hm, why foiled? I don't know why I said it was foiled, sorry. To quote: "ooh, shiny!" - Kiki the Ferret From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 07:21:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRDLtdi022355 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:21:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F7FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:21:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRDB3d09414 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:11:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRD9VDG009530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:09:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:11:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Tree In-Reply-To: <200312270352.hBR3qLd10212@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: References: <200312270352.hBR3qLd10212@listserv.cc.uga.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote: >I'm so glad that you had a good time. I feel certain that the tree was >lovely. Thank you. The week was as close to perfect as possible, I think. We even had light snow, beginning just afer I finished decorating the tree - light, lovely flakes that never posed a travel threat. It snowed like that for about two hours. Then Christmas Day was cold, but sunny - lovely, lovely. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 07:27:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRDR5di022430 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:27:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F7FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:26:12 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRDGCd09828 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:16:12 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRDEgDG010401 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:14:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:16:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Tree In-Reply-To: <20031227051013.GF36436@words-l.org> Message-ID: References: <20031227051013.GF36436@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: >> I am happy to report that some parts of Christendom still honor the season >> of Christmas - and also put the tree up when it is supposed to go up. > >That's so last century! And the one before that and the one before that and the one before that and the one before that .... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 07:49:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRDn0di023085 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F808@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 8:28:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 31920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:28:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRDI5d09907 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:18:05 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRDGZDG010591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:16:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:18:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS In-Reply-To: <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031227050834.GE36436@words-l.org> <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >Hey, they have just announced that "embedded" >is the word of the year. Can't you manage to >work that in in some way. And are ...? ADS will select its WOTY in Boston the weekend of Jan. 8-10. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:02:33 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRF2Xdi024299 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:02:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F86E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:01:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 32990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:01:40 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBREped14371 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:51:40 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hBREpaLe024264; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:51:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBREpaT1024263; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:51:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:51:36 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312271451.hBREpaT1024263@ra.msstate.edu> To: MARIE_ASCHER@NYMC.EDU, rmirth@hotmail.com, twild@uri.edu, verdi@earthlink.net Cc: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: NYC Tomorrow Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 96 2nd Avenue or 96th and 2nd? Will surely figure this out. Terri is arriving at 1:50 at Penn Station -- staying at Pickwick Arms. I'm at Wellington. Cell phone works, but I don't know its number. Have it written down at home. Will cc this to the list in case it connects there better -- I know that sentence makes no sense. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:11:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFBddi024457 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F87A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:10:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:10:46 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRF0jd14947 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:00:45 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hBRF0iLe025874 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:00:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBRF0ihb025872 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:00:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:00:44 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312271500.hBRF0ihb025872@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Plans Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so I'm sure some of our group is not going to get the message about the change. How far apart of these two places? (I know how far it is from 10th Ave to 2nd Ave -- I just haven't had a chance yet to figure out the where on 2nd. If it's 96th and 2nd, we're talking far. I was trying to figure out whether it would be possible to be at the RC at 6:30 to gatyher lost Wordslers and then get to the Mermaid by 7. Wish I hadn't given that man my $1 cookie I bought to get change for the computer machine. I want it now. I've found my cell phone number: 662-242-0723. I'm going to try in a little while to get a ticket for 2 p.m. for "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof." Because it's a limited run, there wouldn't be any discount tickets at Times Square (which is good in a way since the line there this morning is the longest I've ever seen it). Am going to go by the box office. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:15:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFF4di024522 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:15:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:14:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:14:11 -0500 Received: from sleepy.wojomedia.com (foobar@sleepy.wojomedia.com [216.107.102.3]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBRFEAd15493 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:14:10 -0500 Received: (qmail 604 invoked by uid 89); 27 Dec 2003 15:14:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20031227151409.603.qmail@sleepy.wojomedia.com> From: "Natalie Maynor" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Found It Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:14:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: natalie@maynor.net Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 2nd Ave. beween 5th and 6th Streets. Subway F or V. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:16:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFG4di024530 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:16:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F892@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:15:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:15:11 -0500 Received: from web60706.mail.yahoo.com (web60706.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.229]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBRFFBd15546 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:15:11 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:15:05 PST Message-ID: <20031227151505.96221.qmail@web60706.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: PS To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031227063813.GA14196@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > Let's be honest. Are YOU prepared to say in public > any > metaphor with that word that you thought of? Yeah, Natalie is embedded at the Wellington Hotel at a famous address in NYC. I believe the intersecting streets have been celebrated in song on the silver screen. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:18:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFI0di024609 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:18:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F881@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:17:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:17:07 -0500 Received: from web60701.mail.yahoo.com (web60701.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBRFH7d15617 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:17:07 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:17:01 PST Message-ID: <20031227151701.96075.qmail@web60701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:17:01 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: What a good dog To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <20031227072716.GA23113@words-l.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > A little known fact about take-home lamb stew cooked > Indian- > style is dogs go CRAZY after it. Have you ever seen > a perfectly > ordinary-looking dog lunging at a white plastic bag > with "Thank > You" printed on it? I have seen two. So when I was > walking home > today carrying just this concoction, and saw a young > bull-mastiff > type crossing my path, I said "damn"! > > It never fails ... As I passed him I could hear his > sharp intake > of breath, and an inchoate growl forming ... And > then this damn > dog made a move towards me, and then with a titanic > effort he > just stopped. You could practically feel his nerves > overheating. > And I look down the street and there's some kid--the > "owner"-- > taking his damn time walking up, without the > slightest awareness > of what was going on. That was a GOOD dog! All of our dogs have been mad for lamb, especially a stray we took in. She was called Bronwyn, and I believe she would have killed for a lamb shank. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:19:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFJVdi024633 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:19:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F884@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:18:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:18:38 -0500 Received: from web60710.mail.yahoo.com (web60710.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.233]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBRFIbd15696 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:18:38 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60710.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:18:32 PST Message-ID: <20031227151832.98808.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:18:32 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: Christmas Tree To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> Thank you. The week was as close to perfect as > possible, I think. We > even had light snow, beginning just afer I finished > decorating the > tree - light, lovely flakes that never posed a > travel threat. It snowed > like that for about two hours. Then Christmas Day > was cold, but sunny - > lovely, lovely. What do monks and retreatants dine on at Christmas? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:19:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFJgdi024639 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:19:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:18:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:18:49 -0500 Received: from mail1.nymc.edu (mail1.nymc.edu [198.242.81.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRF8nd15271 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:08:49 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: FW: Fwd: NYC Tomorrow Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Fwd: NYC Tomorrow Thread-Index: AcPMPqZ21Qq9aIgjSBiez54rQ5mmqAAQ2Xxf From: "ASCHER MARIE" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBRF8nd15272 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet knows (thanks Betty). I haven't heard from Terry or Natalie. Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:22:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFM3di024660 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:22:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F899@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:21:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:21:10 -0500 Received: from web60705.mail.yahoo.com (web60705.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.117.228]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBRFLAd15792 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:21:10 -0500 Received: from [68.220.235.145] by web60705.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:21:04 PST Message-ID: <20031227152104.33360.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: Lynne Weber Subject: Re: FW: NYC Tomorrow To: English Language Discussion Group In-Reply-To: <200312271451.hBREpaT1024263@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --- Natalie Maynor wrote: > Will cc this to the list in case it connects there > better -- I know > that sentence makes no sense. I, for one, I' getting quite good at translation of Natalian. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:28:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFS1di024792 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:28:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022C74D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:27:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:27:06 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRFR5d16040 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:27:05 -0500 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBRFR4W1025937 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:27:04 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (c-24-7-82-250.client.comcast.net [24.7.82.250]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBRFR3Wq025917; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:27:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20031227072932.00a5a770@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:29:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: FW: Fwd: NYC Tomorrow In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:03 AM 12/27/2003 -0500, ASCHER MARIE wrote: >Janet knows (thanks Betty). I haven't heard from Terry or Natalie. > >Marie Natalie knows. Has Terry left yet? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:37:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFbmdi024935 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:37:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022C726@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:36:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:36:39 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRFadd16396 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:36:39 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBRFaZRp005624 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:36:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01c3cc8f$67c10b00$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031227050834.GE36436@words-l.org> <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: PS Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:37:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Hey, they have just announced that "embedded" > >is the word of the year. Can't you manage to > >work that in in some way. > > And are ...? ADS will select its WOTY in Boston the weekend of Jan. > 8-10. > > Bethany http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3782-2955830,00.html - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:37:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFbsdi024939 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:37:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:37:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:37:01 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRFR0d16021 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:27:00 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hBRFQxLe000166 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:26:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBRFQxrF000165 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:26:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:26:59 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312271526.hBRFQxrF000165@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Glad I Reread Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU GOt it now -- 6:30 at the Mermaid. I had quickly read 7 because of 7 people. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:44:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFiAdi025111 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:44:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0022C76B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:43:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:43:17 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (archive.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRFXHd16260 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:33:17 -0500 Received: from archive.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/MsState-Archive/1.10) with ESMTP; id hBRFXHwi005961 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:33:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by archive.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBRFXHx0005960 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:33:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:33:17 -0600 (CST) From: Mutant City Message-Id: <200312271533.hBRFXHx0005960@archive.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Archive-Reading Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good work, Betty and Marie! I just checked today's archives for updates. Terry does not know yet, afaik. What time does a train leave RI to arrive at Penn Station at 1:50? Just looked at my watch and am pretty sure it would be by now -- that she's already on the train. Is Alan reading? She may have a cellphone that he can call. But I'm not worried since I know where she's staying and can leave a message there for her. Pickwick Arms. The old list hotel. I don't trust message-takers totally, of course. Would feel better if somebody could actually hear her voice on a phone. Still wish I hadn't given that bearded man my cookie. --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 09:45:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRFjbdi025141 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:45:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022C773@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:44:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:44:44 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRFYid16336 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from ra.msstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.12.10/8.12.8/ra_1.2) with ESMTP; id hBRFYgLe001321 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:34:42 -0600 (CST) Received: (from maynor@localhost) by ra.msstate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.7/Submit) id hBRFYgHX001320 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:34:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 09:34:42 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200312271534.hBRFYgHX001320@ra.msstate.edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Sexy-Voiced Men Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We haven't talked lately about sexy voices. Jim Bradley has one. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 10:25:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRGP5di025880 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:25:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F8F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:24:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:24:11 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRGOBd19265 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:24:11 -0500 Received: from yoccoz.multinix.com (yoccoz.multinix.com [127.0.0.1]) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBRGO9kF002979 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:24:09 +0100 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by yoccoz.multinix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBRGO9OM002977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:24:09 +0100 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:24:08 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Archive-Reading Message-ID: <20031227162408.GA2971@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <200312271533.hBRFXHx0005960@archive.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312271533.hBRFXHx0005960@archive.msstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mutant City: = She may have a cellphone that he can call. But I'm not worried since I = know where she's staying and can leave a message there for her. Pickwick = Arms. The old list hotel. I don't trust message-takers totally, of = course. Would feel better if somebody could actually hear her voice = on a phone. When I stayed at the Pickwick Arms, we got all messages, and the house key of where we were to stay the next night in the Bronx. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 10:48:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRGmRdi026148 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:48:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F909@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:47:33 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRGlXd20083 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:47:33 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B67562B8F2; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAA22B8F0 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:47:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring In-Reply-To: <20031227051310.GH36436@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > > What?! You're the last person I'd have picked to see this movie. > > Must have been pushed into a date ... That's right, 'getic. But I picked it over Cold Mountain, which I guess was a mistake, but I just don't ever want to see another movie with guys in Civil War uniforms and (presumably) regional accents. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 10:53:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRGr3di026214 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:53:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F937@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:52:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:52:00 -0500 Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRGpxd20354 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:52:00 -0500 Received: from swbell.net (adsl-66-136-187-177.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [66.136.187.177]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRGpwkK015235 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:51:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3FEDB852.7030507@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:50:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Reply-To: rouvalis@swbell.net Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Girl with a Pearl Earring References: <3FED028D.8090905@swbell.net> <20031227051222.GG36436@words-l.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Diegetic Mutant Hog wrote: > On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 09:54:53PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Ann Borkin wrote: >> >> >>>I can't remember why I thought the book was tacky. But I stand by my >>>opinion. >>> >> >> I didn't like the book at all. I couldn't figure out the >>POINT of the thing. >> > > It was transformational grammar. > > The 's > -> The with the > > You fell for it, weakling. No, it is nothing so obvious as that. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 10:53:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRGrcdi026228 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 10:53:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0022C7B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:52:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:52:44 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [66.237.72.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRGqid20415 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:52:44 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AFE182B8F5; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845C52B8DC for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:52:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 08:52:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Van Gogh In-Reply-To: <20031227051610.GJ36436@words-l.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > But then, why not the impressionists? Rita's 'energy', again, hard to make explicit! No fussy detail? Not pretty? More kinetic? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:23:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHNNdi026700 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:23:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F97A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:29 -0500 Received: from dels.uri.edu (DELS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHMTd21923 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:29 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.URI.EDU [131.128.1.32]) by dels.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRHMTrW025067 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:29 -0500 Received: from awild4dj8f ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBRHMOKj020045 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:28 -0500 Message-ID: <003f01c3cc9e$011fb4a0$0100a8c0@awild4dj8f> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: FW: Fwd: NYC Tomorrow Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I called Terry's hotel and found out that someone (prolly Natalie) had already left a message of change in plans, re: The Mermaid. Ter's train was 25 minutes late leaving West Kingston. 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "ASCHER MARIE" To: Sent: Saturday, 27 December, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: FW: Fwd: NYC Tomorrow > Janet knows (thanks Betty). I haven't heard from Terry or Natalie. > > Marie From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:24:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHOOdi026718 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:24:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F97B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:23:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:23:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHDUd21456 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:13:30 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRHBw3O020140 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:12:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:13:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Christmas Tree In-Reply-To: <20031227151832.98808.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031227151832.98808.qmail@web60710.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >What do monks and retreatants dine on at Christmas? By happy accident (a Christmas Day conversation with the Chaplain, Fr. Matthew Kelty), I know what monks dined on on on Christmas Day! The monks had fried seafood of some sort - not shrimp, he thought, but something similar - steamed asparagus, salad - and Key Lime Pie. Retreatants were served sliced turkey with gravy, twice-baked potatoes (I wonder if the monks had those also, and Fr. Matthew forgot to mention them), steamed asparagus, salad (with imitation crabmeat in it), and Key Lime Pie! The retreatants' diet was heavily vegetarian otherwise - more so than usual - because it was Advent, I assume. Fr. Matthew is in his late 80s - and he forgets details. Also, he was the one who decorated the tree until this year - he had decided that he should no longer do that, which is why I got to do it. He is everybody's favorite monk. See him at: http://monks.org/homilies.html (He once served in Papua New Guinea. He started life in South Boston.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:25:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHPJdi026753 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:25:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00A8F974@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:24:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:24:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHEPd21497 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:14:25 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRHCt3O020281 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:12:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:14:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: FW: NYC Tomorrow In-Reply-To: <20031227152104.33360.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20031227152104.33360.qmail@web60705.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote: >I, for one, I' getting quite good at translation of Natalian. Good - there are few native speakers. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:26:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHQNdi026791 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:26:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F963@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:25:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:25:30 -0500 Received: from duck.inebraska.com (duck.inebraska.com [199.184.119.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHPTd22040 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:25:29 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-206-222-202-153.inebraska.com [206.222.202.153]) by duck.inebraska.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hBRHPPRp018602 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:25:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c3cc9e$9c1f4560$99cadece@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Blame Canada Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:26:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id hBRHQNdi026791 AFP Photo Investigators Trace Diseased Cow to Canada (AP) - The Holstein infected with mad cow disease in Washington state was imported into the United States from Canada about two years ago, federal investigators tentatively concluded Saturday. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:34:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHYpdi026980 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:34:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0022C83E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:33:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:33:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHNvd21976 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:23:57 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRHMR3O022042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:22:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:23:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: WOTY Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another contender is (phrases are eligible at ADS). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:39:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHdEdi027037 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:39:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8F966@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:28:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:28:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHIJd21744 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:18:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBRHGn3O021009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:16:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:18:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: PS In-Reply-To: <001d01c3cc8f$67c10b00$99cadece@0018079268> Message-ID: References: <20031227014546.GA5974@words-l.org> <20031227024522.56195.qmail@web60702.mail.yahoo.com> <20031227050834.GE36436@words-l.org> <000c01c3cc3c$4429ccc0$99cadece@0018079268> <001d01c3cc8f$67c10b00$99cadece@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: Message recipients not local. X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, Doris Markland wrote: >> >Hey, they have just announced that "embedded" >> >is the word of the year. Can't you manage to >> >work that in in some way. >> >> And are ...? ADS will select its WOTY in Boston the weekend of >Jan. >> 8-10. >> > >http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3782-2955830,00.html So are some website guys? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 11:56:19 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRHuJdi027440 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:56:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00A8F9AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:55:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 35779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:55:25 -0500 Received: from mail1.nymc.edu (mail1.nymc.edu [198.242.81.201]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRHjPd22904 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:45:25 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Subject: RE: FW: NYC Tomorrow Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 11:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FW: NYC Tomorrow Thread-Index: AcPMiPCXnxEfw7D5RFiqs5Srb7UtEwADvAqz From: "ASCHER MARIE" To: "Natalie Maynor" , , , Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id hBRHjPd22905 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 96 Second Ave (approx. 5th Street). I'm so glad this is working out. Marie -----Original Message----- From: Natalie Maynor [mailto:maynor@ra.msstate.edu] Sent: Sat 12/27/2003 9:51 AM To: ASCHER MARIE; rmirth@hotmail.com; twild@uri.edu; verdi@earthlink.net Cc: words-l@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: FW: NYC Tomorrow 96 2nd Avenue or 96th and 2nd? Will surely figure this out. Terri is arriving at 1:50 at Penn Station -- staying at Pickwick Arms. I'm at Wellington. Cell phone works, but I don't know its number. Have it written down at home. Will cc this to the list in case it connects there better -- I know that sentence makes no sense. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Dec 27 16:12:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id hBRMC7di031765 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:12:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00A8FB84@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:11:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 40643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:11:11 -0500 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBRMBBd06785 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:11:11 -0500 Received: from scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.185]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AaMeE-0002Fz-00; Sat, 27 Dec 2003 14:11:03 -0800 Message-ID: <31466398.1072563062897.JavaMail.root@scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:11:02 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Janet Hardy Reply-To: Janet Hardy To: ASCHER MARIE , Natalie Maynor , rmirth@hotmail.com, twild@uri.edu, verdie@earthlink.net Subject: RE: FW: NYC Tomorrow Cc: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Me too. Looking forward to seeing everyone. Dudes will not be joining us; they got their TMBG tix and are looking forward to a Dudely evening _sans_ maternal influence. See you in a couple hours, Janet