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>        I think my sister-in-law went full term.  I can't remember
> their weights -- just under 7 lbs. each, I think.

I actually read someplace yesterday that the optimal gestation for
twins is 37 weeks rather than 40. I'm not sure of the reason, but maybe
at that point they just run out of room. Information needed.

Marie

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Janet Hardy wrote:

> Yours is similar to mine on top, but much longer on the back and sides. Mine
> is less than an inch long on the back and sides.

Mine is at its longest length -- it will be much shorter next week.
Also, the person who cuts it varies it from time to time.  I think this
last cut left the back and sides longer than usual.
>
> When I first started cutting this, it was much shorter -- truly butch (#1
> guide on the back and sides, no guide at all at the nape of the neck, the
> top done with scissors). I've gotten better at controlling the clippers, so
> I can get it a little longer and still have it the way I like it.

What's a guide (in relation to cutting hair)?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 8:46:20 PM Central Standard Time,
bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes:
<<
Tushar likes them, I think.  An elite team of gay men dedicated to
extolling the simple virtues of style, taste and class.
>>

I like them, too, and I'm glad that Cox has decided to put Bravo
on analog cable; I'd like to get digital, but it costs too much;
Mom wouldn't watch it, and I'm gone all day (although it would
be nice to be able to tape the movies on TCM).

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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At 04:37 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, Janet Hardy wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:17:36 +0000, Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> >New York was great. Interesting that Janet and the dudes found the city
> >intimidating.
>
>Whoa -- you're misinterpreting me/us badly. I never said that any of us
>found it intimidating -- I said that the Dudes interpreted its vibe as
>"fearful."

Oh. Never mind.

cwv

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

>
> http://www.starkvillerealestate.com/listings_residential/3bedroom/304gillespie/index.html
>
>
I hope this works out for you.  The house looks great.  Porches are
wonderful and I love the kitchen (what little is pictured).

Rita L.

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 7:25:43 AM Central Standard Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
<<
I guess my point is
that red flags might be in order if the process seems too complicated --
that something may be amiss.
>>

This paperwork is for the new doctor; the insurance coverage isn't
changing, the doctors are.  I think there should be a grandfather
clause in the change for those who are undergoing active treatments.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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At 07:39 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>
>>I have the tag on my camera case and tell people that the BC is for Betty
>>Clark and a friend had them specially made.
>>
>>Betty
>
>Oooohhh!   Pressure!  Does this mean that the next batch of presents has
>to be GOOD?

LOL.  No, I just liked claiming the initials. I wish Natalie hadn't taken
my pen.

Betty

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:24:57 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET>
wrote:

>From: Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
>> >I had the same feeling when in clo's presence for that short while
>> >after Alyce's memorial service.
>>
>> Well, I was very concerned abt how people were feeling then. I was
>> the interloper there - not having met Alyce in person. So I had, I
>> think, sort of borrowed my dad's listening skills, trying to ascertain
>> what would be helpful.
>
>I certainly didn't perceive you as an interloper. Although you had only
>been on the list for a short while, Alyce clearly had an impact on you.
>
>Marie

That she did! But given that other people had long association with her,
I felt that there were "chief mourners" sitting with me, whose feelings
were important - and in particular, of course, Jeff and Doug. I thought
that Jeff, Doug, and Alyce herself were kind of in a tough position because
of the minister/sister coalition. And "the boys" had a sort of chin-up
thing going that didn't acknowledge how hard the last weeks had been. So
I had lots to think about.

clo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:03:40 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:
>Actually, it is just as cold here many days as it was in NYC
>that cold day

When I left Chicago, it was 48 degrees, and when I arrived in Austin, it
was 48 degrees. This is NOT right.

Karen

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:24:03 -0500
From: Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:08:05 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:

>I thought I remembered a long-haired picture online.  Just found it.
>But it was longer than this at another time.  I'm still looking for one
>of when it was longer.
>
>http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Misc/hair.jpg
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

*wolf whistle*
clo

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 11:13:35 AM Central Standard Time,
Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
<<
With every pen stroke, repeat: "I am lucky to have health insurance".
>>

Yes, I am glad that she has insurance.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
> more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!

I'm the kind of person who forgets about things when the door is shut
on them--I think that's partly why I like the idea. I don't think I'd
remove all the doors, just the upper ones.

I *would* like to turn the stupid corner cupboards into a lazy-susan
cupboard; I'd get a lot more use out of it.

Karen

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:47:26 -0600
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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> I'm against this.  How would these people feel if a bunch of possums
> grabbed one of them and put it through such an antic?

> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/31/national/31POSS.html?hp

I'm not for it, but I think it's pretty benign. My first thought, of
course, was that they dropped the possum--without benefit of cage.

Karen

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Marie Ascher wrote:

> Natalie got very lucky.

And that reminds me to ask Bonniemae:  Is your cold gone?  I will feel
much luckier when my ear-clog finally goes away.  It's especially cloggy
right now.  For some reason it seems to come and go a bit.  At times I
think there's hope that I may return to normal someday, but then the
clogging comes back with a vengeance.  I really don't think any of that
medicine helped.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:15:17 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes:

>My newest sport, however, is getting people who don't
>know each other to talk together. It's interesting and not that easy!
>
>clo
-----------
It's not easy because not all people want to be bothered when total strangers
want to talk to them. I'd be one of those for sure.
Theo

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Ana and I spent an enjoyable 1/2 hour today sprawled on the
floor at Borders as she tried to decided which book to buy:
  The Black Stallion, Black Beauty, a Spirit book, or Misty
of Chincoteague.  Then we hobbled downstairs and I picked up
a copy of Seabiscuit.

Life gets no better.  We ride together, she is starting to
read all my favorite books from when I was a kid, and she
has a growing little Breyer horse collection.  This
motherhood thing is glorious in new ways all the time.

--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
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In a message dated 12/31/2003 9:10:42 AM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes:

>>I still feel that getting dressed nicely for air travel is the right thing
>>to do.
>>
>>Janet
>
-----
I do too, Janet, although my habits have changed quite a bit lately, and I
have tried to adjust to this younger generation.
Sneakers must be an American term, because I've called them tennis shoes, but
mine have to have velcro closings now too, and are not easy to find. Theo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, steph wrote:

>Cabinets without doors suck.  They collect dust.  We have our
>glassware in one, and periodically I have to pull everything out
>of it to dust the bottom of the shelves.

Right. And it is the rage around here - an insane one. I shall not
succumb.

Bethany

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:56:09 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Lynne Weber wrote:
>
>>>I have a can of black-eyed peas, a can of turnip
>>>greens, and an envelop
>>>of cornbread mix.  And some ham slices.  That's what
>>>I will do at noon
>>>tomorrow since that feels <right> on NY's.
>>
>> You'd better, if your courting Lady Luck.
>
>I realize that what I wrote about feeling right is confusing.  I meant
>it feels right to do it at noon.  Of course I would not NOT eat
>blackeyed peas on NY's.  I remember the time I was making the long drive
>back to Melbourne, FL, on NY's Day and suddenly realized that I had to
>eat blackeyed peas.  I stopped at a convenience store and amazingly
>found a bag of them.  Bought it and swallowed several raw ones in my car
>as I drove onward.  After sixty years of blackeyed peas on NY's, I'm not
>about to risk not eating them.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


LOL - We will eat them too, but cooked, unless the electricity goes out!
clo

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Betty wrote:
>
>> Annual crab feed here at friends'.  Tonight we stay home with movies,
>> homemade pizza, beer, choc. covered strawberries, and champaign.
>
>
> I'm about to watch "Seabiscuit," which I rented this afternoon.
>


        I just bought the book today, but won't get to it for a
little while since I have to re-read a huge collection of
Borges to see which stories I want to teach this semester.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> Happy New Year, Karen.  Hope 2004 brings lots of job offers your way.

Thank you, me too! Interestingly enough, some work may be wending my
way from my little sister...

Karen

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, bonniev wrote:
>>there's something psychologically <unpleasant> about walking with no
>>sidewalks -- that's what makes a big difference in cities -- sidewalks
>>  -- Natalie

> Odd.  I've never had that reaction when hiking in Acadia.

Have you started your Dale of Norway sweater, Bonnie?

Karen

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Karen Kay wrote:

> had--though I did run into someone I knew in O'Hare.

Was he wearing shoes?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> V has already gone to bed; our tradition is <not> to see the NY in,
> but to let the kids do it (they used to put sleeping bags down in the
> L. rm, and watch Marx Bros and 2 Stooges till they fell asleep).

I remember the first NY I saw in -- my brother and I had made our
parents promise to wake us up at midnight.  They did, and I remember
being sooooo sleepy as I went out to the front porch to throw a
firecracker.  I don't remember what year that was -- sometime in the
early '50s, I guess.

Meanwhile, I did indeed watch the dropping ball on tv last night.  I had
gone to bed, then woke up and decided to go to the bathroom.  Looked at
the bathroom clock and thought it said something like 11:40 but then
looked again and realized it was a couple of minutes until 11 -- a sign
that I was supposed to go turn on the tv and watch Times Square.  So I
did.  It felt strange to be staring at a place on the tv screen I had
been regularly staring at ftf just a few days ago.  Made me want to be
there in that crowd.  Maybe some year I'll do that.  I still regret that
I did not go to Picadilly Circus at midnight the year I was in London on
NY's.  I think I heard the NY arrive here last night also, though I
didn't look at the clock to confirm it.  I heard the sound of
firecrackers, an unusual sound in this extremely quiet neighborhood.

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When has Elaine last checked in?  I've been meaning to ask whether
anybody has heard from her lately.  Seems like a long time since she
last said anything on the list.  And what about Sylvia?  She also has
been gone a long time.

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Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> Well, I am worried about him; I just took him for a walk, and a
> neighbor approached.  Bennie turned from a friendly little dog
> into a snarling, growling one.  Something has happened lately;
> I wish I knew what it was.

Did the neighbor have an animal, or was Bennie snarling at the person?
Spencer gradually changed from one who was submissive to other dogs to
one who is sometimes aggressive.  But he is either shy or friendly with
people -- never assertive/aggressive.  Iow, his change was only in
relation to other dogs, not in relation to people.

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Now we are back at the point where you need to
> enroll in an owner-training
> class (aka dog training). There are also good
> reliable books about dog
> behavior that can help. Having us guess from
> incomplete descriptions of
> his behavior won't be as good as working with an
> experienced dog trainer
> who can teach you how to reinforce good behavior.

Right.  Does he seem to be alright physically?


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Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>
>> Well, I am worried about him; I just took him for a walk, and a
>> neighbor approached.  Bennie turned from a friendly little dog
>> into a snarling, growling one.  Something has happened lately;
>> I wish I knew what it was.
>
>
> Did the neighbor have an animal, or was Bennie snarling at the person?
> Spencer gradually changed from one who was submissive to other dogs to
> one who is sometimes aggressive.  But he is either shy or friendly with
> people -- never assertive/aggressive.  Iow, his change was only in
> relation to other dogs, not in relation to people.


        Vinnie is extremely aggressive toward other dogs.  Somebody
in the neighborhood let their pit bull loose today, and
Vinnie had a fence fight with it.  They had ahold of each
other's faces through the chainlink when I broke it up.   It
was a good thing I was outside doing yardwork at the time,
as I noted the owner of the pit bull did nothing.  I know
Vinnie has <issues>, but he was in his own yard.  I'm hoping
the dog was just a visitor and not a resident.  Vinnie never
shows any sort of aggression toward people, though.  He's a
love sponge.

        My golden retriever, Shawn, would occasionally taking a
dislike to a person passing by.  I always trusted his judgment.

        In any case, Bennie could be developing an aggression problem
or he could just be protective and caught a bad vibe.
Aggression always gets worse, though.



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Lynne Weber wrote:

> What about Dan Lester?

He's cyclical.  It may be a year or two, but he'll pop up again.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 9:14:13 PM Central Standard Time,
clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
<<
Call the dog obedience programs that are closest, and explain your
situation. They may have solutions handy, or be able to think of something
with you.
>>

I'll stop by Southern Agriculture tomorrow and see what they say.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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Natalie Maynor:
= Betty wrote:
=
= >I still miss the act of smoking.
=
= I guess they don't make candy cigarettes anymore, do they.  Remember those?
=

Sure they do.  They just don't sell them to Americans because
someone would surely report the parents of a child with a candy
cigarette to CPS.

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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>No, stbx reared its ugly head again. I need a plastic replica I
>can leave in my stead that will nod and smile and say "Of course,
>dear".

? What does Starbucks have to do with this?

Bethany

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> After a week or so I will presumably throw away the
> ones in the
> refrigerator.  I hate that they didn't have any tiny
> cans of BEPs.
> Ditto turnip greens.  I had to buy big cans of both.

This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.  I
must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw them
out until they are inedible.  It defies reason, but I
can't break the habit.

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> You want me to post my ultrasounds? I'm having another tomorrow.

Yes.  Exactly.

Start a photo-blog.

Ann

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Janet Hardy wrote:

> It may also have to do with the dearth of sun here. We were in the West
> Village yesterday, and we walked down to the river, and sat for a few
> minutes just so we could see the sun for a while -- we hadn't realized that
> we'd missed it so much. (I know about myself that I get a little crazy
> without direct sunshine, but I don't think Ben has realized it about
> himself yet -- this trip may be an eye-opener in that regard.)

I've been waiting for the annual Janet Hardy no-sun complaint!

It's a misery-loves-company kind of thing.

And the acacia apparently are going to bloom late here this year.  They
function as a kind of sun-surrogate (when it's light enough to see them,
that is)

Ann

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From: Janet Hardy <verdie@EARTHLINK.NET>
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:23:42 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander <cwv@GWI.NET>
wrote:

>At 05:47 PM 12/29/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>>In the course of zooming, I read Verdant's report with interest,
>>wondering why the dudes felt a fearful vibe in NYC.  I don't know about
>>the whole city, but I don't sense any fearfulness in Manhattan.
>
>I wonder if some don't bring a sense of fearfulness with them to
>NYC/Manhattan.  It <is> big and busy and a bit strange to outsideres and
>not like very many other places in this country.  There is also a
>directness, which might be interpreted as aggressiveness, that is not all
>that common elsewhere.

Not that, exactly; remember, the Dudes are used to big cities -- they're
San Franciscans, and they spend their time these days in Oakland, which is
arguably at least as dangerous as NYC.

I think it has more to do with the sheer physical crowding in NYC. People
have a whole set of body languages that have to do with protecting their
own little square of turf, wherever they happen to be standing at the
moment -- you see it most on the subway, shoulders in, head down, like a
dog who has a bone and who sees another dog.

It may also have to do with the dearth of sun here. We were in the West
Village yesterday, and we walked down to the river, and sat for a few
minutes just so we could see the sun for a while -- we hadn't realized that
we'd missed it so much. (I know about myself that I get a little crazy
without direct sunshine, but I don't think Ben has realized it about
himself yet -- this trip may be an eye-opener in that regard.)

Janet
killing time until
it's time to wake 'em up in
a few minutes

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Wild" <twild@uri.edu>
> We said our farewells at
> 59th St. around 10:30pm.  As I was hoofing it back to the Pickwick, I
> passed some store where it looked like a man on a ladder was changing the
> lights in the overhead.  When I looked left along the curb, there were 2
> policemen armed with very large guns across their chests and a 3rd
> policeman had a German Shepard.  I smiled said hi and kept walking.  That
> was the strongest security I had seen the entire trip. Wonder what I had
> just walked through!

fti... her description of the arms leads me to think they were HK G36
rifles, in .223 cal.

iyam... that's one Hell of a round to start flinging around an urban
setting.  I wonder if they had their MIB apologies rehearsed:  "ew  DAMN!
'Sorry!  Was that expensive?  It was uh ackceedent."

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>
> But I think we were calling you Theresa when Lillia was born, weren't we?
>
> Rita L.
>

Yes, that's right.

Are you and Ray coming to Snowbash?

Terry

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At 11:24 AM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>I have amused myself for years by looking strangers in the eyes when
>approaching, smiling a greeting, and saying "hello" if they won't
>make eye contact. My favorite NE moment was when I was 16, and a 60ish
>gent on the street shied away and said, "Not me, sister!"
>
>clo

I pass this same woman almost every day on my way from the gym to my office
who absolutely refuses to look at me and looks down.  What's up with that?
Another woman is always smiling but smoking so I try to exhale as we pass.

Off to Santa Rosa for the day. I'm glad it is much nicer weather than
yesterday.

Betty

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:05:44 -0500, Adam Hartfield <adamh1@COMCAST.NET>
wrote:

>> Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...
>
>Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
>Boston.
>
>However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
>work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>
>--Adam

I am coming home from Burlington VT - work conference 24-26 - it's perfect
for me!
 clo

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At 01:31 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Marie Ascher wrote:
>
>>There are also many who practice <avoidance> -- some people just don't
>>want to be talked to all the time. That's what I'm thinking of when Janet
>>refers to hunkering down. Just leave me alone. It seems to me a natural
>>reaction to living in such dense population.
>
>Not wanting to be talked to strikes me as not unusual and not
>necessarily hunkering down exactly.  I always bury my nose in a book in
>airport waiting areas and on planes since I'd rather not get stuck in
>conversations in those settings.  I'd rather read.

I do this in airplanes, too.  I want to be pretty much left alone to read.
I like to people watch in waiting areas.

Betty

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On Monday, December 29, 2003, Betty wrote:
> You're a good man, 'Al!

> Welcome back, Karen!  I can't figure out if you were able to spend any time
> with T.S.

What happens in Chicago stays in Chicago.

Karen

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Terry Wild wrote:

> I think you are mixing me up with another Terri, I'm the one with the 'y'.
> :-)

Oh dear.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 04:48 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
>
>>Yes.  Based on what I saw selected, I'd go with the free SDRAM upgrade and
>>with Norton rather than McAfee.
>
>I was really not seriously shopping -- just decided to cruise the
>techbargain.com site, which has links to other sites.  But I must say I
>was tempted.  And I had indeed made the decision that if I did decide to
>act, I would choose the RAM upgrade instead of the rebate.  Also Norton.
>  The Norton made me wonder about something.  Just a week or so ago I
>renewed my annual Norton antivirus subscription.  Does that have any
>value when changing computers?  Iow, is it portable?

I believe so, but it may take some e-mailing/telephoning to get everything
arranged.  The only problem I have with Norton is that (for me, anyhow)
their web site is not at all user-friendly.  In order to get to the point
where they divulge a telephone number so that I can talk to a human being,
I have to navigate this interminable set of web pages, answering all of the
irrelevant questions.

cwv

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:02:00 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Betty wrote:
>
>>>> However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that
>>>> does/does not
>>>> work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>>>
>>> What's with the list of names here?  Do you have to be On The List to
>>> come?  If not, I will be there.
>>
>> Yay!  Do you need another plant?
>
>No, I don't need any more plants.  The Bayla plant is thriving, though
>part of it is very sticky -- as in gooey.  But I want to make sure I'm
>not crashing.  My name does not appear on the list above.  I worry that
>SnowBash is becoming <exclusive>.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

We'll crash together, but I think it was just an opener. Note that BrP
was not on the list either, and I'm sure he'd be welcome at any party!
clo

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At 05:23 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote:
>This is what you need so your hair doesn't go flat -
>
><http://www.sagesport.com/180searwarmers.html>

How are your ears, Natalie?  (Other than not being able to hear.)

Betty

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Welcome back, Theo, and Happy New Year.

Is it time to trade insults again?  You tell us how crappy our systems
in place are, and we'll dump on you in return.  Sound like fun?

Ann

On Tue, 30
Dec 2003, Theo Groothof wrote:

> ----- Hiya all, I think I'll give it another shot, if you'll still have me.
> Haven't found anything THAT interesting yet that will keep me away forever.
> Hope you'll all have a fantastic good new year. Mine didn't start out too good.
> Phone, electricity out, you name it. Today, I hear that my original cleaning
> woman isn't making it AGAIN! So I gave up on her,too. So what do you think? One
> more chance? Theo
>

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>I like to read sometimes, but there are times when people-watching is
>very rewarding.

Yes, I noticed that about you.  Every time I turned around at Acadiafest
you seemed to be studying me.  What did you learn?

>  My newest sport, however, is getting people who don't
>know each other to talk together. It's interesting and not that easy!
>clo

That would be an Innkeeper skill.


bonnie

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On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, bonniev wrote:

>>I know that you guys were talking about Mad Cow

>And this was news to you?  I think I've known this for about twenty
>years.  And have seen pictures.

What was news to me was that sick, infirm, disabled "downer" cows
are still introduced into the food system. I thought that was
discontinued in '97. And there's no extra testing precautions on
downers. Also it turns out that central nervous system tissue is
not completely eliminated from the food supply. The industry
has ways and ways of using that stuff.

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:57:48 +0000, Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM>
wrote:
>What was news to me was that sick, infirm, disabled "downer" cows
>are still introduced into the food system. I thought that was
>discontinued in '97. And there's no extra testing precautions on
>downers. Also it turns out that central nervous system tissue is
>not completely eliminated from the food supply. The industry
>has ways and ways of using that stuff.

Yes.

I recently read a book about the inspection process that horrified me, but
I can't remember the title. It's all very random, and I'm not surprised
about the BSE.

Karen

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> That was my thought when I read what Karen said.  I started to mention
> it, but then didn't since it was pretty obvious that one would simply
> have to rinse off plates and glasses before using them -- some of the
> time anyway, not necessarily every time.  Because I like open windows,
> dust would be a big problem if I had open cabinets.

I have my kitchen window open all the time, but the only cupboards
that face it, I use for canned goods and fish food, so that never
occurred to me.

Karen

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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:59:58 -0500
From: Terry Wild <twild@uri.edu>
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Best wishes for health and happiness to you all.

Have fun!

Terry

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 3:46:27 AM, verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

> Now if someone
>would just invent a way of keeping my nose warm...
>
>Janet.
-------------
Keeping it only into hot topics? I dunno either, Janet. I know it's a
problem, but I hardly get out in cold weather these days, and it's cold and snowing,
but with everyone celebrating, no one has time for me. Until it clears up
fast, I'll probably be inside for who knows how long. Theo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:33:46 -0800, Lynne Weber <lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
>> What I like abt the photo is that I can see the
>> books on the shelf,
>> the drawings the old flame made for me, and the list
>> of quotes I
>> kept for inspiration. I still have almost all of
>> those,(I replaced
>> many of the books) in spite of losing nearly
>> everything I owned a
>> couple of times.
>
>
>What happened to the grater on the shelf?  Is it one
>of those constant companions?
>

No, but the old flame in Seattle still has the Quaker mill
I used to grind flour and soy for tofu in.
clo

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I'm off to bed.

Happy New Year to all!!!

Karen

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At 01:41 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Adam Hartfield wrote:
>>Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
>>Boston.
>>
>>However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
>>work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>
>What's with the list of names here?  Do you have to be On The List to
>come?  If not, I will be there.

Yay!  Do you need another plant?

Betty

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At 03:44 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>This looks to me like a very good deal:
>
>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=4d46h9a&s=bsd
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2muxq

Yes.  Based on what I saw selected, I'd go with the free SDRAM upgrade and
with Norton rather than McAfee.

cwv

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At 08:33 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>Maybe the Fab Five could arrange a do over.
>
>The Fab Five?

http://www.bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/

Tushar likes them, I think.  An elite team of gay men dedicated to
extolling the simple virtues of style, taste and class.

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>
>This is merely the famed New England warmth.
>
>I have amused myself for years by looking strangers in the eyes when
>approaching, smiling a greeting, and saying "hello" if they won't
>make eye contact. My favorite NE moment was when I was 16, and a 60ish
>gent on the street shied away and said, "Not me, sister!"
>
>clo

Were you dressed like a slut?  Blue jumper?

B

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Betty wrote:

> LOL.  No, I just liked claiming the initials. I wish Natalie hadn't taken
> my pen.

I gave it back!  Remember when I started feeling guilty even though
people like you were GIVING ME THEIR PENS?  I put some of the pens back
on the picnic table and left them for others.  Now I wish I had taken
them each and every one!

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I'm against this.  How would these people feel if a bunch of possums
grabbed one of them and put it through such an antic?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/31/national/31POSS.html?hp

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Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> New York was great. Interesting that Janet and the dudes found the city
> intimidating. To me the city gave off major warm fuzzies all year,

I didn't read what she said as their having found it intimidating in any
way.  I thought she was talking about the impression of what the New
Yorkers themselves (plus the tourists mixed among them, of course) felt.

> noticed lots and lots of Yeerpeens but my impression was of fewer
> South Asians than in previous years. Fewer Japanese groups too.

The Wellington was full of Japanese, as apparently it always is.  Lots
of Yeerpeens there also, but more Japanese than any other group, I'd
say.  And that reminds me again of my shoe-studying when traveling.  I
still believe it is a myth that USAers are most likely to wear tennis
shoes.  The accents I hear from voices of tennis-shoe-wearing travelers
in airports and elsewhere suggest quite the contrary to me.

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You're a good man, 'Al!

Welcome back, Karen!  I can't figure out if you were able to spend any time
with T.S.

Betty

At 10:40 PM 12/29/2003 -0500, Alan Wild wrote:
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Terry Wild" <twild@uri.edu>
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> > I had a blast!  Thanks 'Al!

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At 11:45 PM 12/29/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:43:07 -0500, Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Wow do I wish I were there.
> >>
> >> clo
> >
> >
> >So do we!  I was hoping at any moment you would *pop* in.
> >
> >Terry
>
>No, stbx reared its ugly head again. I need a plastic replica I
>can leave in my stead that will nod and smile and say "Of course,
>dear".
>clo

He needs to be more like 'Al and Larry.

Betty

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Marie Ascher wrote:

>Twins.
>
>
>
Congratulations Marie!  Have you told Lazlo and started preparing him
for having to share affection?

Rita L.

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> No, I meant "The Boys", Alyce's were the first twins!
>
> I see what you mean, though.

Don't forget Espen's grandtwins!

Marie

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From: Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
> >Do twins run in your family? I didn't think you had any twin sibs.
>
> I've always heard that they skip generations - that it would be
> aunts and uncles, not sibs, that predicted it.

No. There's never been any other twins in my family that I know of. We both
received <assistance>.

My grandfather claimed to be a twin -- 10 months apart. That's "Irish Twins".

Marie

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> Do twins run in your family? I didn't think you had any twin sibs.

Just Irish twins: 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970.

Marie

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> Are they fraternal or identical?  I want to see their shadows in
> utero, is
> there a chance?

You want me to post my ultrasounds? I'm having another tomorrow.

They will be cute!  I hope there's one of each
> sex and we
> get so many baby stories that Clyde demands a special subject line.

I'll do my best. Right now all I have is stories of nausea and food aversions
(chocolate! of all things).

Marie

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> But you will be at Snow Bash.  In all your glory!

Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...

> Names?   How about
> Alyce and Gilbert?

We've got some names. Alyce and Gilbert are not among them.

Marie

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>>? What does Starbucks have to do with this?
>>
>>Bethany
>
>LOL!
>Just leave it at that, Bethany!

Suits me - I'm on my way to a skinny cap right now!

Bethany

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And this was news to you?  I think I've known this for about twenty
years.  And have seen pictures.

>I know that you guys were talking about Mad Cow--I saw veal pens for
>the first time yesterday. I don't think I see a lot of veal in my
>future. Basically, they are these little dog houses, with a
>chickenwire pen out in front so the calf can get some sunlight.
>There's only room for them to turn around in the outdoor pen.
>Karen

bonnie

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> > No, I meant "The Boys", Alyce's were the first twins!
> > clo
>
>They were not <born> to the list though.
>              - D. M.

As Clyde's twin daughters were not born to the list.  How many babies have
been born to the list?  Alan and Terry's were.


bonnie

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Marie Ascher:
=  As Clyde's twin daughters were not born to the list.  How many
= > babies have
= > been born to the list?  Alan and Terry's were.
=
= And Tony and Barbara's two children. I think Rita was gone for a
= long period surrounding her pregnancy with Ana.
=
= Marie

Anne Diffily, '93  - I think this is the first and oldest. Didn't
        Anne drop entirely off the list after the lightening?

Peter Levy (2 kids)

Larry Kestenbaum

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At 11:05 AM 12/30/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...
>
>Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
>Boston.
>
>However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
>work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.

No, I'm not okay with missing SB, and you will all have to come to Boston
if I do!  If it works out, great!

Betty

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 09:33:55 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander <cwv@GWI.NET>
wrote:

>At 08:48 AM 12/30/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote:
>
>>There are also many who practice <avoidance> -- some people just don't
>>want to be talked to all the time. That's what I'm thinking of when Janet
>>refers to hunkering down. Just leave me alone. It seems to me a natural
>>reaction to living in such dense population.
>
>True.  However, I should note that I often feel that way living in a
>population density of approximately 100 per square mile.
>
>cwv
>Approach me calmly, state your business quietly and quickly, and leave
>rapidly---and nobody will get hurt.

This is merely the famed New England warmth.

I have amused myself for years by looking strangers in the eyes when
approaching, smiling a greeting, and saying "hello" if they won't
make eye contact. My favorite NE moment was when I was 16, and a 60ish
gent on the street shied away and said, "Not me, sister!"

clo

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:04:05 -0800, Ann Borkin <aborkin@RAHUL.NET> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Janet Hardy wrote:
>
>> It may also have to do with the dearth of sun here. We were in the West
>> Village yesterday, and we walked down to the river, and sat for a few
>> minutes just so we could see the sun for a while -- we hadn't realized
that
>> we'd missed it so much. (I know about myself that I get a little crazy
>> without direct sunshine, but I don't think Ben has realized it about
>> himself yet -- this trip may be an eye-opener in that regard.)
>
>I've been waiting for the annual Janet Hardy no-sun complaint!
>
>It's a misery-loves-company kind of thing.
>
>And the acacia apparently are going to bloom late here this year.  They
>function as a kind of sun-surrogate (when it's light enough to see them,
>that is)
>
>Ann

This August in the desert was the first time I ever really experienced
the difference between full sun and cloudy Syracuse life (2d cloudiest
urban area in the US). How do people live with so much light? It would
be like living in a cloud palace - quite fairylike.

clo

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On Monday, December 29, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> I've always heard that they skip generations - that it would be
> aunts and uncles, not sibs, that predicted it.

In my family, my Mom has two sets of twin sibs, and she had twin sons.
But I have heard the skip-a-generation thing.

Karen

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Natalie,

The Mississippi State Creamery was featured on an episode of the "Food
Finds" program on the Food TV channel yesterday.  They talked a lot
about cheese and quite a bit about muscadine food products.  My favorite
part was the cow licking the camera lens though :-)

Rita L.

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Marie Ascher wrote:

> There are also many who practice <avoidance> -- some people just don't
> want to be talked to all the time. That's what I'm thinking of when Janet
> refers to hunkering down. Just leave me alone. It seems to me a natural
> reaction to living in such dense population.

Not wanting to be talked to strikes me as not unusual and not
necessarily hunkering down exactly.  I always bury my nose in a book in
airport waiting areas and on planes since I'd rather not get stuck in
conversations in those settings.  I'd rather read.

New Yorkers seem very much <approachable> to me, though.  Not
necessarily for getting into long conversations but for quick questions
or whatever.  In many places I tend to <assess> a potential
question-answerer before approaching him/her, trying to ascertain
whether it's the <right person>.  But in NYC pretty much anybody is ok.
  Everybody seems helpful.  Obviously there are exceptions.  There would
be anywhere.  I just haven't run into them yet.  And when I say NYC,
read Manhattan -- though I've had a few forays into Queens, including an
accidental one Sunday afternoon when I raced down into the subway, saw a
train about to close its dooors, and leaped onto it just before it
pulled away.  Quickly I realized that I was heading under the water
toward Queens.  Got out at something like Queens Plaza and headed back west.

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bonniev wrote:

> As Clyde's twin daughters were not born to the list.  How many babies have
> been born to the list?  Alan and Terry's were.

Both of Tony's, one of Pete's, at least one of Peter Levy's, two of Alan
and Terri's, four(?) adopted and one birthed by Ann Diffily.  I'm sure
I'm forgetting some.  And I'm not including grandchildren.  (Ana Chapman
  might count since Rita had certainly been a Wordsler well before Ana's
birth and then became one again.  But does a birth during a long and
total leave-of-absence -- total as in zero communication -- count?)

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steph wrote:

> Anne Diffily, '93  - I think this is the first and oldest. Didn't
>         Anne drop entirely off the list after the lightening?

Not instantly after it but pretty soon after.  She was still on the list
long enough to tell us the name of Kevin Bernard Diffily.

> Peter Levy (2 kids)

I couldn't remember for sure about the first one.

> Larry Kestenbaum

Larry pretty much deserted us after Sarah came along, though he has
hopped back in a few times.

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Adam Hartfield wrote:
> Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
> Boston.
>
> However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
> work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.

What's with the list of names here?  Do you have to be On The List to
come?  If not, I will be there.

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Rita Leonard wrote:

> Natalie,
>
> The Mississippi State Creamery was featured on an episode of the "Food
> Finds" program on the Food TV channel yesterday.  They talked a lot
> about cheese and quite a bit about muscadine food products.  My favorite
> part was the cow licking the camera lens though :-)

Interesting.  I've never heard of the Mississippi State Creamery -- that
name, I mean.  Is that what the cheese-making division is called?  I
think of its academic wing as simply the Dairy Science Department and
its selling wing as the MAFES Cheese Shop.  And the muscadine wine is in
a totally different location, both geographically and I think officially
-- over at the enology lab, where Spencer loves to run.  But the enology
program has pretty much died now.  The vineyards are empty, and the lab
sits there doing I'm not sure what most of the time.  I guess they're
still making at least some wine since it still gets served for various
university events (it's illegal to sell it), but I don't think the
degree program still exists.  It used to be considered pretty good --
not as in good wine-making but as in its graduates getting good
wine-related jobs in places like California.

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Terry Wild wrote:

> Are you and Ray coming to Snowbash?
>
Anything is possible :-)

Rita L.

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----- Hiya all, I think I'll give it another shot, if you'll still have me.
Haven't found anything THAT interesting yet that will keep me away forever.
Hope you'll all have a fantastic good new year. Mine didn't start out too good.
Phone, electricity out, you name it. Today, I hear that my original cleaning
woman isn't making it AGAIN! So I gave up on her,too. So what do you think? One
more chance? Theo

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Re NYC, it does seem pretty <safe>.  I just found a site that allows you
to compare crime statistics of cities.  I was going to compare Jackson
and NYC, but for some odd reason Jackson was not included in the list of
cities.  So I went with Memphis.  Huge difference between Memphis and
New York:

http://www.bestplaces.net/html/crimecompare3.asp?lcity=10412&rcity=9840&view=T
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And Atlanta:

http://www.bestplaces.net/html/crimecompare3.asp?lcity=8816&rcity=9840&view=T

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New York was great. Interesting that Janet and the dudes found the city
intimidating. To me the city gave off major warm fuzzies all year,
culminating in the marathon which was one big feel-good citywide
street party. That was back in November but the good vibes seemed
to have lingered on. Tourists, orange alerts, shaky economy - nothing
seems to faze those crazy Manhattanites. Speaking of tourists I
noticed lots and lots of Yeerpeens but my impression was of fewer
South Asians than in previous years. Fewer Japanese groups too.

I love NYC over the holidays and did lots of touristy things. I did my
usual Central Park circuit, checked out the windows along Madison,
Fifth Ave, the upper East Side (Terry, too bad you weren't around.
It didn't look anything like Providence). Bergdorf Goodman had
stunning windows - over the top, brilliant, excessive - 4 stars for sure.
Saks windows were bland and unfocussed - there was a music theme
but it didn't really go anywhere. Barneys windows plain sucked. Don't
know who came up with SATC - that is so over.

I'm convinced that everyone in NYC has perfectly manicured finger
nails. Each time I walk around the city I'm struck by the explosion of
nail salons - there seem to be more and more every year. I was able to
conduct an unscientific survey as I walked down Second Ave from 89th
St to 5th St  - there was one nail salon for approximately every 1.5 city
blocks. These are big places with 8-10 stations. How do so many
nail salons survive? By the time I reached the Mermaid I was
extremely conscious of my unmanicured nails and cuticles.

It was great seeing everyone and hearing Marie's wonderful news.
Janet looked great. Getting out of foggy San Francisco suits her.

Wish everyone a very happy 2004!

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Terry Wild wrote:

> This is what you need so your hair doesn't go flat -
>
> <http://www.sagesport.com/180searwarmers.html>

Thanks!  That looks promising.  I think I mentioned that I saw some
topless hats on heads that day I was wandering in the cold.  They went
around from forehead to back of head in a circle but with nothing on top.

I did not put my hat on after that first day, I might add.  That was the
only day it was really cold -- and damp and windy.  The rest of the days
were not bad at all.  Sunday was gorgeous -- much prettier weather than
I found upon my return to Starkville.

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> Thanks!  That looks promising.  I think I mentioned that I saw some
> topless hats on heads that day I was wandering in the cold.  They went
> around from forehead to back of head in a circle but with nothing on top.

We call those ear warmers also.  I didn't have time to go to our local
fleece store or I would have brought you one.  They are just a strip of
cloth that covers the ears.  I think it could still mess your hair up,
especially in front.  The sport ear warmers I sent the link to are like
earmuffs, but go around the back of your neck instead of over top.  Easier
on the dos.

One of the first things I noticed was you were not wearing a hat.
Terry

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Mom was taking him to the mailboxes by the leasing office so
that she could pick up the mail.  When they were there, Tracey,
the apartment manager who gave us grief over our cable, rushed
out, and Bennie tore her pantyhose.  I hope we don't have to
give him up.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

> bonniev wrote:
>
>> As Clyde's twin daughters were not born to the list.  How many babies
>> have
>> been born to the list?  Alan and Terry's were.
>
>
> Both of Tony's, one of Pete's, at least one of Peter Levy's, two of Alan
> and Terri's, four(?) adopted and one birthed by Ann Diffily.  I'm sure
> I'm forgetting some.  And I'm not including grandchildren.  (Ana Chapman
>  might count since Rita had certainly been a Wordsler well before Ana's
> birth and then became one again.  But does a birth during a long and
> total leave-of-absence -- total as in zero communication -- count?)


        It wasn't zero communication -- I popped in long enough to
know about the 'fest in Butler, and I think I popped in
toward the end of the pregnancy.  But Ana doesn't count.




--
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It's beautiful news, Marie!

>>Congratulations Marie!  Have you told Lazlo and started preparing him
>>for having to share affection?
>>
>>
>
>Laszlo needs a LOT of work.
>
:-)

>Right now all I have is stories of nausea and food aversions

Daughter (rushing towards bathroom): Morning sickness!
Father: Morning... honey!
(From 'My Family', BBC TV)

I remember craving for fresh new snow when pregnant with Uku...

Kristin

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 5:01:36 PM Central Standard Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
<<
Does your contract say anything about animals being evicted for
destroying panty hose?
>>

No, but if she can prove that he is dangerous, she can force us
to get rid of him.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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And we just received a call from Mom's doctor stating that she
has spots on her latest lung X-rays, so she wants to see Mom,
but Mom's insurance will no longer cover this doctor or any
other doctor from Springer Clinic after tomorrow.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, Adam Hartfield wrote:
>>    Make new memories, Adam.  Remember the old ones and celebrate.
>>
>> B

> That's my goal.

In my own case, I've discovered that it doesn't take long to make a
behavior a tradition.

Karen

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At 12:42 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Judith E. Schrier wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:05:44 -0500 Adam said:
> >Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
> >Boston.
> >However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
> >work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>
>As far as we know, March 27 would be fine.  It will be lovely to
>see a few Wordies!
>
>love, judith (and paul)

Excellent!  Are you getting the room with the hot tub in it again?

Betty

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At 11:06 AM 12/30/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>On Monday, December 29, 2003, Betty wrote:
> > You're a good man, 'Al!
>
> > Welcome back, Karen!  I can't figure out if you were able to spend any time
> > with T.S.
>
>What happens in Chicago stays in Chicago.

:-)  When is the wedding now?

Betty

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At 04:40 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote:
>Terry Wild wrote:
>
>>Are you and Ray coming to Snowbash?
>Anything is possible :-)
>
>Rita L.

Oh, good! Will you send presents even if you can't come?

Betty

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Betty wrote:

>>> However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that
>>> does/does not
>>> work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>>
>> What's with the list of names here?  Do you have to be On The List to
>> come?  If not, I will be there.
>
> Yay!  Do you need another plant?

No, I don't need any more plants.  The Bayla plant is thriving, though
part of it is very sticky -- as in gooey.  But I want to make sure I'm
not crashing.  My name does not appear on the list above.  I worry that
SnowBash is becoming <exclusive>.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

> Yes, and you have the lesbian shoes to go with it!  (Hi, steph)

What kind of hair could I have to be non-butch?  I'm willing to do
anything anybody suggests re hair.  Feet, though, are another matter.  I
can't imagine subjecting my feet to non-Birk life at this stage.  I
spent enough years with cramped toes.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 07:00 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>(They work for the same agency.)  I told them that I was in love with a
>house -- it's the house that I mentioned here earlier but that
>supposedly sold but that in fact didn't sell because something fell
>through -- and that, assuming I would feel the same way after seeing its
>inside, my contest for them was to find a buyer for my house at a price

Did you show us this house?

Betty

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At 07:06 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>Yes, and you have the lesbian shoes to go with it!  (Hi, steph)
>
>What kind of hair could I have to be non-butch?  I'm willing to do
>anything anybody suggests re hair.  Feet, though, are another matter.  I
>can't imagine subjecting my feet to non-Birk life at this stage.  I
>spent enough years with cramped toes.

Maybe the Fab Five could arrange a do over.

Betty

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At 07:03 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>Oh, good! Will you send presents even if you can't come?
>
>I wrote with my Boston College pen this morning and felt good Acadiafest
>vibes.  One of my BC pens, that is.  I have several.  But you may recall
>that I got worried about being too greedy and ended up giving some back
>-- as in leaving them sitting there for others.

I have the tag on my camera case and tell people that the BC is for Betty
Clark and a friend had them specially made.

Betty

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> >not crashing.  My name does not appear on the list above.  I worry that
> >SnowBash is becoming <exclusive>.
>
> Well,  then, you don't know Adam.
>
> Betty

Right! The only reason I mentioned those people is because I CC'd them, as
I'm not sure if they're actively reading everything. I haven't heard from
Emily in months; does anyone know if she's reading her Yale email?

--Adam

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Betty wrote:

> Did you show us this house?

I think so.  It's here:

http://www.starkvillerealestate.com/listings_residential/3bedroom/304gillespie/index.html

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Adam Hartfield wrote:

> Right! The only reason I mentioned those people is because I CC'd them, as
> I'm not sure if they're actively reading everything. I haven't heard from

Whew!

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

> Maybe the Fab Five could arrange a do over.

The Fab Five?

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  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 09:13 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > >not crashing.  My name does not appear on the list above.  I worry that
> > >SnowBash is becoming <exclusive>.
> >
> > Well,  then, you don't know Adam.
> >
> > Betty
>
>Right! The only reason I mentioned those people is because I CC'd them, as
>I'm not sure if they're actively reading everything. I haven't heard from
>Emily in months; does anyone know if she's reading her Yale email?

I don't know. The last time I heard from her she was using her hotmail
account.  Try this one.

emmaleeh@HOTMAIL.COM

I'd love to see her again, too.

Betty

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:55:15 EST, Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:

>And we just received a call from Mom's doctor stating that she
>has spots on her latest lung X-rays, so she wants to see Mom,
>but Mom's insurance will no longer cover this doctor or any
>other doctor from Springer Clinic after tomorrow.
>
>Evelyn Duncan
>EDuncan368@aol.com
>I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

Ouch. This is a problem. Is there another place the insurance will cover
that you trust, and that can see her quickly?

clo

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:31:55 -0800, Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

>At 01:31 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>>Marie Ascher wrote:
>>
>>>There are also many who practice <avoidance> -- some people just don't
>>>want to be talked to all the time. That's what I'm thinking of when Janet
>>>refers to hunkering down. Just leave me alone. It seems to me a natural
>>>reaction to living in such dense population.
>>
>>Not wanting to be talked to strikes me as not unusual and not
>>necessarily hunkering down exactly.  I always bury my nose in a book in
>>airport waiting areas and on planes since I'd rather not get stuck in
>>conversations in those settings.  I'd rather read.
>
>I do this in airplanes, too.  I want to be pretty much left alone to read.
>I like to people watch in waiting areas.
>
>Betty

I like to read sometimes, but there are times when people-watching is
very rewarding. My newest sport, however, is getting people who don't
know each other to talk together. It's interesting and not that easy!

clo

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:08:26 EST, Theo Groothof <Dutchessg1@AOL.COM> wrote:

>----- Hiya all, I think I'll give it another shot, if you'll still have me.
>Haven't found anything THAT interesting yet that will keep me away forever.
>Hope you'll all have a fantastic good new year. Mine didn't start out too good.
>Phone, electricity out, you name it. Today, I hear that my original cleaning
>woman isn't making it AGAIN! So I gave up on her,too. So what do you think? One
>more chance? Theo

Theo!
Happy New Year!
clo

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:33:34 -0800, Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

>>
>>This is merely the famed New England warmth.
>>
>>I have amused myself for years by looking strangers in the eyes when
>>approaching, smiling a greeting, and saying "hello" if they won't
>>make eye contact. My favorite NE moment was when I was 16, and a 60ish
>>gent on the street shied away and said, "Not me, sister!"
>>
>>clo
>
>Were you dressed like a slut?  Blue jumper?
>
>B

LOL!
I was probably wearing the more conservative clothing on this page:
<http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/PersonalPage/cloatdesk11221976.jpg>

clo

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> We'll crash together, but I think it was just an opener. Note that BrP
> was not on the list either, and I'm sure he'd be welcome at any party!
> clo

Yes, of course BrP is welcome. Anyone who wants to come is welcome to do so.
I just worry about the size of my living room - it can hold 13 or 15 people
max. *sigh*

--Adam

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>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Janet Hardy wrote:

> > It may also have to do with the dearth of sun here. We were in the West
> > Village yesterday, and we walked down to the river, and sat for a few
> > minutes just so we could see the sun for a while -- we hadn't realized
>that
> > we'd missed it so much. (I know about myself that I get a little crazy
> >without direct sunshine, but I don't think Ben has realized it about
> > himself yet -- this trip may be an eye-opener in that regard.)

>I've been waiting for the annual Janet Hardy no-sun complaint!

:-) Good thing Janet wasn't here (east coast) mid-december. Even I was
complaining about the dark afternoons. Last weekend, though, the weather was
the best we've had for weeks - dry, sunny, not windy. Perfect for tourists
and weekenders - NYC's hospitability knows no bounds.

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At 10:29 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > We'll crash together, but I think it was just an opener. Note that BrP
> > was not on the list either, and I'm sure he'd be welcome at any party!
> > clo
>
>Yes, of course BrP is welcome. Anyone who wants to come is welcome to do so.
>I just worry about the size of my living room - it can hold 13 or 15 people
>max. *sigh*

Lap buddies!

Betty

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
>
> No, stbx reared its ugly head again. I need a
> plastic replica I
> can leave in my stead that will nod and smile and
> say "Of course,
> dear".

All new brides should make such replicas essential
components of their hope chests.

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:38:48 PM Central Standard Time,
lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:
<<
Evelyn, doesn't your mother have Medicare?
>>

She has Medicare, but the Medigap insurance (Secure
Horizons) takes that.  I don't know if someone there or
at Springer Clinic decided that S.H would no longer
cover S.C.

Evelyn Duncan
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In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:13:25 PM Central Standard Time,
clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
<<
Ouch. This is a problem. Is there another place the insurance will cover
that you trust, and that can see her quickly?
>>

She's already signed up with another doctor, but there's a ton of
paperwork to go through, and guess who is going to have to do it.
I'd like to make the person who decided to make the change
(whether the insurance or the clinics) go through all the paperwork
involved.

Evelyn Duncan
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:17:36 +0000, Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>New York was great. Interesting that Janet and the dudes found the city
>intimidating.

Whoa -- you're misinterpreting me/us badly. I never said that any of us
found it intimidating -- I said that the Dudes interpreted its vibe as
"fearful." I don't think any of us found it intimidating. All of us were
quite aware that it was significantly less dangerous than their dad's
neighborhood in Sacramento, and than many neighborhoods that we frequent in
San Francisco and Oakland (although probably not this one). I do think that
NY must not have anti-aggressive-panhandling laws comparable to those here,
or at least if it does, they're not as sternly enforced as the ones here --
I was approached with a lot more directness than I've been accustomed to in
quite a while, but at no point did I feel threatened.

> To me the city gave off major warm fuzzies all year...

Aside from the fact that I loathe the term (did you all know that my first
job out of college was working for the man who coined it -- Dr. Al Freed,
the author of "T.A. for Tots," and a thoroughly loathsome character he was,
too), I'd never describe NY as giving off warm fuzzies. Well, that's not
entirely true. New York does, but New Yorkers don't -- at least not _en
masse_. Individually, they often do.

Janet

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> Congratulations Marie!  Have you told Lazlo and started preparing him
> for having to share affection?

Laszlo needs a LOT of work.

Marie

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At 08:48 AM 12/30/2003 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote:

>There are also many who practice <avoidance> -- some people just don't
>want to be talked to all the time. That's what I'm thinking of when Janet
>refers to hunkering down. Just leave me alone. It seems to me a natural
>reaction to living in such dense population.

True.  However, I should note that I often feel that way living in a
population density of approximately 100 per square mile.

cwv
Approach me calmly, state your business quietly and quickly, and leave
rapidly---and nobody will get hurt.

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:07:51 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Terry Wild wrote:
>
>> We call those ear warmers also.  I didn't have time to go to our local
>> fleece store or I would have brought you one.  They are just a strip of
>> cloth that covers the ears.  I think it could still mess your hair up,
>> especially in front.
>
>The bangs could fall over the outside of it, so that wouldn't be a
>problem.  It would give the hair a lift.  And the sides wouldn't really
>matter since flat sides are ok.  It's flat tops that are bad.
>
>Somebody in the archives I was zipping through called Verdant's haircut
>a butch haircut.  Is it?

When it's properly trimmed -- which it will be, sometime between now and
when I leave for my New Year's party tomorrow night -- it is. It's pretty
shaggy right now, and the areas at the back of my neck and around my ears
are downright disreputable.

Yours is similar to mine on top, but much longer on the back and sides. Mine
is less than an inch long on the back and sides.

When I first started cutting this, it was much shorter -- truly butch (#1
guide on the back and sides, no guide at all at the nape of the neck, the
top done with scissors). I've gotten better at controlling the clippers, so
I can get it a little longer and still have it the way I like it.

And I have one of those ear-warmer thingies; it's great with this haircut. I
wear it for walking Amy at night. It looks very sportive. Now if someone
would just invent a way of keeping my nose warm...

Janet

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:


>>http://tinyurl.com/2muxq

> Monitor not included; not DVD; integrated sound and/or video -
> lower quality and not upgradeable (so says my son)

I ended up not pursuing the bargain last night.  Got sleepy and wasn't
in the mood to pursue it.  But what you wrote above was quite obvious in
the description.  There was no suggestion that it included monitor or
DVD, though those were options that could be added.  I don't know
anything about integrated sound.  I keep my sound turned off unless I
have a specific reason to turn it on.  (That computer bargain did not
include speakers, iirc, but I was not going to add any.)

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Adam Hartfield wrote:

> I just worry about the size of my living room - it can hold 13 or 15 people
> max. *sigh*

Not a problem.  There has never been a crowded feeling at the snowbashes
I've attended -- more togetherness would be easy if there were more
people.  And just think about that huge concrete terrace you have -- the
one stretching for great distances right outside your front door.  That
would accommodate lots of Wordslers.  If we got cold, we could sit in cars.

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From: Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:40:45 -0800, Lynne Weber <lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
>> I like to read sometimes, but there are times when
>> people-watching is
>> very rewarding. My newest sport, however, is getting
>> people who don't
>> know each other to talk together. It's interesting
>> and not that easy!
>
>Why?  How do you do this?  Do you see some deficiency
>in them?
>
>
Why do I do it, or why isn't it easy?
How? eg, by pointing out to someone whose bag is on a chair
that someone else needs a seat, but at the same time commenting
in the friendliest way abt some interesting aspect of that person's
attire, weariness, etc. Then to the 2d person I introduce the
person who "gave" them the seat, and point out something of
interest abt them.

Or I smile at a weary mother with a fractious kid and compliment
them on the child, and talk abt how hard the wait is for them.
Then I turn to a person beside me and ask if they remember being
stuck like that waiting for parents, or if they remember some
similar situation, and with just a little pruning, a conversation
flowers.

It's tricky to do this in a way that doesn't irritate and
isolate. But w/ luck, in stuck bus or cancelled flight
situations, it's possible at times to diffuse some
of the tension in the air by catalyzing a few well-placed,
positive conversations, I am learning.

No, of course it's not abt deficiencies. It passes the time
quite well, and does no harm.

It happened by accident one of those times when I suddenly felt
wordy, and I got interested in what makes conversation happen
among strangers. Call it discourse research, if you will.

clo

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Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> :-) Good thing Janet wasn't here (east coast) mid-december. Even I was
> complaining about the dark afternoons. Last weekend, though, the weather
> was
> the best we've had for weeks - dry, sunny, not windy. Perfect for tourists
> and weekenders - NYC's hospitability knows no bounds.

But it does get dark too early in NYC and not get light soon enough in
the mornings.  In winter, I mean.  It can't help it.  Part of it is
simply from being that far north, but another big part of it is the tall
buildings that block the peripheral sun.  It's depressing for it to
start feeling light twilight in mid-afternoon.  Fortunately, all the
upbeat NYC dynamism offsets that minor negative.

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Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:38:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:
> <<
> She simply has to sign to have her
> records moved to a covered facility.  Get in touch
> with her insurance carrier and determine what her
> options are.
>
> I hope it's that simple; all I know is that the new doctor
> sent her a ton of paperwork.

Fwiw, I found my mother's insurance situation incredibly simple and
good.  I was agog at the thought of insurance covering pretty much
everything since I have never had anything like that.  And there was no
paperwork at all re the coverage -- at least none that I (or she) had to
do.  Photocopies of the Medicare and AARP cards took care of it all.
(Her AARP insurance paid what Medicare didn't.)  I guess my point is
that red flags might be in order if the process seems too complicated --
that something may be amiss.

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  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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> Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...

Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
Boston.

However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.

--Adam

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At 11:38 AM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>By the bye, it's been unnaturally lovely and sunny here in Syracuse over
>the holidays. BrP and I laughed over his daughter's request for a
>white Christmas on the 22 or so, but it warmed up and everything is
>gone now - it's been up and down between 30 and 50 most of the time
>since, and yesterday was postively balmy. What's up with that!

Same bizarre situation here---it's an early April day---blustery, cloudy,
misty, foggy, 46F.  The snow is gone from the lower land and very little
(probably ice rather than snow) exists up on the mountain slopes.

cwv

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Janet Hardy wrote:

> I'm getting to where I'm starting to wear tennis shoes (which I still,
> old-fashioned girl that I am, tend to call sneakers) for traveling as well,

I've never thought of the sneakers vs. tennis shoes terminology as
having to do with time -- I've thought of it as having to do with
region.  I think of "sneakers" as a yankee term.  It's always been
"tennis shoes" for me.

> simply so I won't have to take them off for metal detectors -- but I cringe.
> I still feel that getting dressed nicely for air travel is the right thing
> to do.

The only time I've had to take shoes off was in Hartford coming back
from Snowbash year before last.  I can't remember what shoes I had on,
and I don't think they had set off a machine.  It think it was
pre-machine.  Or wait -- I didn't have to take them off.  It's just that
a man was wanding all feet.

In any case, I have never worn tennis shoes when traveling because I
just plain don't find them <desirable>.  They're hot in summer, they're
clunky, they usually involve strings (I detest shoe strings), etc.  The
only time I wear them is for cutting the grass -- and those have velcro,
not strings.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:48:46 -0500, Rita Leonard <leonard@BC.EDU> wrote:

>Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>>
>>
http://www.starkvillerealestate.com/listings_residential/3bedroom/304gillespie/index.html
>>
>>
>I hope this works out for you.  The house looks great.  Porches are
>wonderful and I love the kitchen (what little is pictured).
>
>Rita L.

Ooh, yes! And the kitchen looks unrestored (my "modern" kitchen is the
one thing I hate about our new house). Our house is roughly the same
era, and you'll even have a clawfoot tub like mine!
clo

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 I do
> think that
> NY must not have anti-aggressive-panhandling laws comparable to
> those here,
> or at least if it does, they're not as sternly enforced as the
> ones here --

They used to be, during the Giuliani years. Bloomberg is a screw-up. The squeegee guys are back.

Marie

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Janet Hardy wrote:

> San Franciscans, and they spend their time these days in Oakland, which is
> arguably at least as dangerous as NYC.

NYC isn't really very high in <danger> ratings, is it?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Rita Leonard wrote:

>> http://www.starkvillerealestate.com/listings_residential/3bedroom/304gillespie/index.html
>>
> I hope this works out for you.  The house looks great.  Porches are
> wonderful and I love the kitchen (what little is pictured).

I also love the porches.  Those pictures of the inside were too little
for me to have an opinion of.  I really do think it's a neat house, and
I love the size -- about 1400 sq ft.  That's perfect for me.  I could
just buy it and then put this one up for sale, but I really don't want
to do that.  I would rather sell this one and buy that one the same day
-- as in simply plopping the money from this one into the bank and
writing a check for that one the same day.

There are lots of good things about this house also, of course.  It's a
better party house than that one would be -- at least for big parties in
inclement weather -- that one does have a good bit of outside party
space.  Also, this neighborhood is gloriously quiet.  That one would
have a bit more traffic noise, etc.

Real estate is fun.  (And no, I have no interest at all in being in the
real estate business.  I mean it's fun as a customer.)

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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> two of Alan
> and Terri's,

Actually all 3, but I was fairly new to the list when Lillia was born.  She
was 9 months old when we attended Clambake.

I think you are mixing me up with another Terri, I'm the one with the 'y'.
:-)

Terry
>   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Terry Wild wrote:

>
> I think you are mixing me up with another Terri, I'm the one with the
> 'y'.
> :-)
>
> Terry

But I think we were calling you Theresa when Lillia was born, weren't we?

Rita L.

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:01:49 -0500, Marie Ascher <14lodge@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote:

>From: bonniev <bonniev@GWI.NET>>
>>I like to read sometimes, but there are times when people-
>> watching is
>> >very rewarding.
>>
>> Yes, I noticed that about you.  Every time I turned around at
>> Acadiafestyou seemed to be studying me.  What did you learn?
>
>I had the same feeling when in clo's presence for that short while
>after Alyce's memorial service.
>
>Marie

Well, I was very concerned abt how people were feeling then. I was
the interloper there - not having met Alyce in person. So I had, I
think, sort of borrowed my dad's listening skills, trying to ascertain
what would be helpful.

clo

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This is what you need so your hair doesn't go flat -

<http://www.sagesport.com/180searwarmers.html>

Terry

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--- Theo Groothof <Dutchessg1@AOL.COM> wrote:
> ----- Hiya all, I think I'll give it another shot,
> if you'll still have me.
> Haven't found anything THAT interesting yet that
> will keep me away forever.
> Hope you'll all have a fantastic good new year. Mine
> didn't start out too good.
> Phone, electricity out, you name it. Today, I hear
> that my original cleaning
> woman isn't making it AGAIN! So I gave up on
> her,too. So what do you think? One
> more chance? Theo

Yes, Theo, give her another chance.  Happy New Year!


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From: Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
> >I had the same feeling when in clo's presence for that short while
> >after Alyce's memorial service.
>
> Well, I was very concerned abt how people were feeling then. I was
> the interloper there - not having met Alyce in person. So I had, I
> think, sort of borrowed my dad's listening skills, trying to ascertain
> what would be helpful.

I certainly didn't perceive you as an interloper. Although you had only
been on the list for a short while, Alyce clearly had an impact on you.

Marie

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> It's tricky to do this in a way that doesn't irritate and
> isolate. But w/ luck, in stuck bus or cancelled flight
> situations, it's possible at times to diffuse some
> of the tension in the air by catalyzing a few well-placed,
> positive conversations, I am learning.

I think getting to know fellow passengers is the norm rather than the
exception in situations of canceled or delayed flights.  Even with that
minor delay in Memphis the other day, those of us waiting to go to
Tupelo were becoming buddies.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> Ooh, yes! And the kitchen looks unrestored (my "modern" kitchen is the
> one thing I hate about our new house). Our house is roughly the same
> era, and you'll even have a clawfoot tub like mine!

My impression is that the kitchen has been remodeled.  I would hope so.
  I have no desire for a 1920 kitchen.

I've thought about putting a clawfoot tub in this house.  Unless I
suddenly move, I do plan on doing some remodeling of my big bathroom
right away.  (I call it "big" not because it's huge but simply to
distinguish it from the "little" bathroom -- the one I ripped out the
floor in not long after moving in.)

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:45:43 -0800, Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM> wrote:

>>For $549, what does your son expect?  Especially considering the fact that
>>one is paying both the Microsoft Tax and the Intel Tax.
>
> I would say that he is looking at bang more than bucks. He is in the market
> for a new computer, and is remarkably quick at catching loopholes and
>  missing features in deals that look to me like they should be fine.

I find your (his?) idea of loopholes and missing features extremely
strange.  That ad I was looking at last night was totally
straightforward, imho.  You would have to be mega-stupid to think that a
monitor was included.  It said quite clearly NO MONITOR.  That wasn't a
"loophole" or a "missing feature."  Do most people buy new monitors
every time they buy new computers?  I certainly don't.  A modem was also
not included.  If I had bought the computer, I would have simply moved
the modem from this computer to the new one -- for use as emergency
backup in case of DSL failure.  I did not consider the lack of a modem a
"loophole."  I considered it an opportunity to let me simply move my old
modem instead of wasting money on a new one.  Etc. etc.

>  and of course, we didn't know Natalie wouldn't care
> abt the monitor.

Weird.  I did say something in a later posting, I think, about possibly
adding a monitor since this one is getting pretty old and since a
flat-screen one might be fun.  But I certainly said nothing to indicate
that I thought that original deal included a monitor.
--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> Yes.  Based on what I saw selected, I'd go with the free SDRAM upgrade and
> with Norton rather than McAfee.

I was really not seriously shopping -- just decided to cruise the
techbargain.com site, which has links to other sites.  But I must say I
was tempted.  And I had indeed made the decision that if I did decide to
act, I would choose the RAM upgrade instead of the rebate.  Also Norton.
  The Norton made me wonder about something.  Just a week or so ago I
renewed my annual Norton antivirus subscription.  Does that have any
value when changing computers?  Iow, is it portable?

As I said, I am thinking that this would not be a wise move since
there's nothing wrong with my computer.  It suits my needs just fine.
But it has been gnawing upon my brain that if I really do retire, which
I am on the verge of doing, I will no longer have an office to run to if
I suddenly experience computer failure.  There are plenty of computers
on campus that I could no doubt use in an emergency, but it wouldn't be
like my own computer.  I need a backup.  (I do, of course, have an old
computer in the other room, plus one or two in closet floors.)  Still,
though, it might be time to move on to a new one.

When I went back to the starting page of that bargain, I found it for
slightly more with a monitor included.  That also isn't something I
really need.  The monitor I'm using (which came with the Dell I bought
in May '98) is fine.  But a flat one might be fun.
--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 07:28 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, Rita Leonard wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>
>>Oh, good! Will you send presents even if you can't come?
>>
>>Betty
>
>Yes, ma'am.  I will get to work on that right now.  I mentioned the
>event to Ray last night and the response was not overwhelmingly
>positive.  However, there is quite a bit of time to work on him yet :-)

Would you consider attending without him? I remember discussing
MissionFest, our first big list event, with Larry and he asked a lot of
questions that I couldn't answer so I just subscribed him to the list. I
think that has been his favorite. I wonder if Elwood is still reading the
archives?

Betty

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Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> In a message dated 12/30/2003 5:01:36 PM Central Standard Time,
> natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
> <<
> Does your contract say anything about animals being evicted for
> destroying panty hose?
>
>
> No, but if she can prove that he is dangerous, she can force us
> to get rid of him.


        Ah, those vicious nylon tearers with Big Pointy Teeth.

        Just don't let him bite her.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
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At 04:46 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:07:51 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
>
> >Terry Wild wrote:
> >
> >> We call those ear warmers also.  I didn't have time to go to our local
> >> fleece store or I would have brought you one.  They are just a strip of
> >> cloth that covers the ears.  I think it could still mess your hair up,
> >> especially in front.
> >
> >The bangs could fall over the outside of it, so that wouldn't be a
> >problem.  It would give the hair a lift.  And the sides wouldn't really
> >matter since flat sides are ok.  It's flat tops that are bad.
> >
> >Somebody in the archives I was zipping through called Verdant's haircut
> >a butch haircut.  Is it?
>
>When it's properly trimmed -- which it will be, sometime between now and
>when I leave for my New Year's party tomorrow night -- it is. It's pretty
>shaggy right now, and the areas at the back of my neck and around my ears
>are downright disreputable.
>
>Yours is similar to mine on top, but much longer on the back and sides. Mine
>is less than an inch long on the back and sides.

And Natalie your hair style works for you. It looks nice on you and is easy
to care for.   I need wash and wear hair as I have no talent in those
departments.

Betty

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On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, bonniev wrote:
> And this was news to you?  I think I've known this for about twenty
> years.  And have seen pictures.

It wasn't news, but I had never seen the pens close up before. That
made a rather indelible impression.

>>I know that you guys were talking about Mad Cow--I saw veal pens for
>>the first time yesterday. I don't think I see a lot of veal in my
>>future. Basically, they are these little dog houses, with a
>>chickenwire pen out in front so the calf can get some sunlight.
>>There's only room for them to turn around in the outdoor pen.
>>Karen

> bonnie



Karen

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Janet:

>Whoa -- you're misinterpreting me/us badly. I never said that any of us
>found it intimidating -- I said that the Dudes interpreted its vibe as
>"fearful." I don't think any of us found it intimidating. All of us were
>quite aware that it was significantly less dangerous than their dad's

Woops - I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I read archived
posts in a clump and was misremembering/misinterpreting/misexaggerating.

>I'd never describe NY as giving off warm fuzzies.

Maybe it's the contrast from a few years back. I dunno, there' something.
The city's mellowed significantly.

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> >LOL! Yes, I miss smoking. Someday I'll learn to resize jpgs, which
> >will make it much more interesting.
>
> I still miss the act of smoking.

Me too. Although right now the thought of it makes me want to vomit.

Marie

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 5:56:15 PM Central Standard Time,
rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes:
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Just don't let him bite her.
>>

If she does something to him, I'll bite her.

Evelyn Duncan
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Betty wrote:
> I wonder if Elwood is still reading the
> archives?

Surely he is!  He would not let us down.

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On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> I have amused myself for years by looking strangers in the eyes when
> approaching, smiling a greeting, and saying "hello" if they won't
> make eye contact. My favorite NE moment was when I was 16, and a 60ish
> gent on the street shied away and said, "Not me, sister!"

LOL.

Dan Bern has a song about this. I don't remember if he says what
prompted him to do this, but he says that he left his house one day
with the aim of looking everyone he met in the eye--and he said it was
two years before he made it home. He seemed to have slightly more
success than you did.

Karen

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Betty wrote:

> I still miss the act of smoking.

I guess they don't make candy cigarettes anymore, do they.  Remember those?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

> Oh, good! Will you send presents even if you can't come?

I wrote with my Boston College pen this morning and felt good Acadiafest
vibes.  One of my BC pens, that is.  I have several.  But you may recall
that I got worried about being too greedy and ended up giving some back
-- as in leaving them sitting there for others.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

> How are your ears, Natalie?  (Other than not being able to hear.)

Not well.  But not hurting.  Just stopped up and gurgling.  And the
gurgling is an improvement over the stopped-up-non-gurgling mode.  The
gurgling gives me hope that someday all will be well again.

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At 07:02 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>>>However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that
>>>>does/does not
>>>>work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>>>
>>>What's with the list of names here?  Do you have to be On The List to
>>>come?  If not, I will be there.
>>
>>Yay!  Do you need another plant?
>
>No, I don't need any more plants.  The Bayla plant is thriving, though
>part of it is very sticky -- as in gooey.  But I want to make sure I'm
>not crashing.  My name does not appear on the list above.  I worry that
>SnowBash is becoming <exclusive>.

Well,  then, you don't know Adam.

Betty

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At 11:07 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>That she did! But given that other people had long association with her,
>I felt that there were "chief mourners" sitting with me, whose feelings
>were important - and in particular, of course, Jeff and Doug. I thought
>that Jeff, Doug, and Alyce herself were kind of in a tough position because
>of the minister/sister coalition. And "the boys" had a sort of chin-up
>thing going that didn't acknowledge how hard the last weeks had been. So
>I had lots to think about.
>
>clo

I still have very mixed emotions thinking about it.

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At 10:01 AM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>I still miss the act of smoking.
>
>I guess they don't make candy cigarettes anymore, do they.  Remember those?

Oh, yes!

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:50:28 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:

>Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:45:43 -0800, Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM> wrote:
>
>>>For $549, what does your son expect?  Especially considering the fact
that
>>>one is paying both the Microsoft Tax and the Intel Tax.
>>
>> I would say that he is looking at bang more than bucks. He is in the
market
>> for a new computer, and is remarkably quick at catching loopholes and
>>  missing features in deals that look to me like they should be fine.
>
>I find your (his?) idea of loopholes and missing features extremely
>strange.  That ad I was looking at last night was totally
>straightforward, imho.  You would have to be mega-stupid to think that a
>monitor was included.  It said quite clearly NO MONITOR.  That wasn't a
>"loophole" or a "missing feature."  Do most people buy new monitors
>every time they buy new computers?  I certainly don't.  A modem was also
>not included.  If I had bought the computer, I would have simply moved
>the modem from this computer to the new one -- for use as emergency
>backup in case of DSL failure.  I did not consider the lack of a modem a
>"loophole."  I considered it an opportunity to let me simply move my old
>modem instead of wasting money on a new one.  Etc. etc.
>
>>  and of course, we didn't know Natalie wouldn't care
>> abt the monitor.
>
>Weird.  I did say something in a later posting, I think, about possibly
>adding a monitor since this one is getting pretty old and since a
>flat-screen one might be fun.  But I certainly said nothing to indicate
>that I thought that original deal included a monitor.
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Natalie, I looked briefly at the URL, and passed on the comments. If I
were buying it, I'd have been looking at several offers at the same time,
and comparing the features to see which was the <better deal>. Aaron has
such good memory that he has a bank of such details to compare against.
Compared to other computers he'd looked at, this package had
characteristics he'd noticed before. I passed on his comment.

And yes, of course, later on you said you didn't want a monitor. I
wouldn't know that at the time, because I hadn't read that msg yet.

To answer your question,
Lots of people do upgrade monitors when they upgrade computers, because
larger screens (easier on eyes) have become cheaper.

Summary: I wasn't in advice-giving mode, just making generic comments.

clo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:53:40 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:

>Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>
>> Ooh, yes! And the kitchen looks unrestored (my "modern" kitchen is the
>> one thing I hate about our new house). Our house is roughly the same
>> era, and you'll even have a clawfoot tub like mine!
>
>My impression is that the kitchen has been remodeled.  I would hope so.
>  I have no desire for a 1920 kitchen.
>
>I've thought about putting a clawfoot tub in this house.  Unless I
>suddenly move, I do plan on doing some remodeling of my big bathroom
>right away.  (I call it "big" not because it's huge but simply to
>distinguish it from the "little" bathroom -- the one I ripped out the
>floor in not long after moving in.)
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

1920s was the height of the Gilbraith style "efficiency" kitchen, no?
I'd be delighted to have one again.
But we know I have peculiar tastes!

What I chiefly mourn is the loss of 1920s-style cabinetry and lots
of places to put things.
clo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:55:39 EST, Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:

>In a message dated 12/31/2003 7:25:43 AM Central Standard Time,
>natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
><<
>I guess my point is
>that red flags might be in order if the process seems too complicated --
>that something may be amiss.
>>>
>
>This paperwork is for the new doctor; the insurance coverage isn't
>changing, the doctors are.  I think there should be a grandfather
>clause in the change for those who are undergoing active treatments.
>
>Evelyn Duncan
>EDuncan368@aol.com
>I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

Does the paperwork include those lengthy "history" questionnaires
 about everything from athlete's foot to zebra riding?
clo

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>
> What was news to me was that sick, infirm, disabled "downer" cows
> are still introduced into the food system.

I don't know the system for handling these cows
but I do know that the most common cause for
this classification is a broken leg, not sickness.
I can't quote statistics but am speaking from
experience.  We never sent a sick animal to
market, but did often take one in with a broken
leg.

             - D. M.

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 10:18:15 AM Central Standard Time,
clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
<<
Does the paperwork include those lengthy "history" questionnaires
about everything from athlete's foot to zebra riding?
>>

YEP!

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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> I think so.  It's here:
>
> http://www.starkvillerealestate.com/listings_residential/3bedroom/304gill
> espie/index.html
>
> --
>   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I love it, a nice porch for sipping wine!

Terry

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Betty wrote:

>> http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Misc/hair.jpg
>
> Great photo!

I'm almost positive that one with longer hair was online at some point,
but I couldn't find it.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> What I chiefly mourn is the loss of 1920s-style cabinetry and lots
> of places to put things.

I don't know about eras, but I do know that the Mennonite
cabinet-builder involved in the remodeling of the kitchen of my previous
house was a genuius.  That tiny kitchen ended up with an incredible
amount of cabinet space -- much more than in my current kitchen even
though my current kitchen is larger than that one.  (Is there a
connection between Mennonites and carpentry?  Around here the best
cabinet-makers are usually Mennonites.  The men do beautiful carpentry,
and the women bake wonderful bread -- sold in a little shop in Crawford,
a tiny town not far from here.)

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Karen Kay wrote:

> When I left Chicago, it was 48 degrees, and when I arrived in Austin, it
> was 48 degrees. This is NOT right.

I don't know what the temperature was when I left NYC, but it was
supposed to be in the 50s that day, I think.  The announced temperature
in Memphis when we landed was low 40s.  And it was raining.  And cold
rain was falling at Furrbabies when I picked up babykins.  I much
preferred the NYC weather.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> I like to read sometimes, but there are times when
> people-watching is
> very rewarding. My newest sport, however, is getting
> people who don't
> know each other to talk together. It's interesting
> and not that easy!

Why?  How do you do this?  Do you see some deficiency
in them?


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> Yes, of course BrP is welcome. Anyone who wants to come is welcome to do
> so. I just worry about the size of my living room - it can hold 13 or 15
> people max. *sigh*
>
> --Adam

As promised, I'm marking the calendar and will go about securing child care
so the adult Wilds can join you.  What's the average time frame on this
shindig?

Terry

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:46:56 EST, Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:

>In a message dated 12/31/2003 10:18:15 AM Central Standard Time,
>clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
><<
>Does the paperwork include those lengthy "history" questionnaires
>about everything from athlete's foot to zebra riding?
>>>
>
>YEP!
>
>Evelyn Duncan
>EDuncan368@aol.com
>I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

Well, that part at least it makes sense to do over. Every time
I fill those in, I remember other things or have had something
change since the last time. Well, not every time. But often
enough that I understand why some offices redo it every year.

It sure is tedious, though!
clo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:16:10 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
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>What I chiefly mourn is the loss of 1920s-style cabinetry and lots
>of places to put things.

I can't remember how I learned this--maybe the Fab 5. But it seems to be
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huge yarn stash had no doors on her cupboards, and I really liked them. I'd
love to do that to mine, but that means that I'd have to removed all the
tacky contact paper, and that I'd have to do a lot of sanding standing on
the counter--not my favorite things. But I'm still thinking about it.

Karen

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:59:45 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:

>Karen Kay wrote:
>
>> When I left Chicago, it was 48 degrees, and when I arrived in Austin, it
>> was 48 degrees. This is NOT right.
>
>I don't know what the temperature was when I left NYC, but it was
>supposed to be in the 50s that day, I think.  The announced temperature
>in Memphis when we landed was low 40s.  And it was raining.  And cold
>rain was falling at Furrbabies when I picked up babykins.  I much
>preferred the NYC weather.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Yes, but don't be misled - this is not our typical December weather!
And we often pay for it with blizzards at Easter.
clo

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--- Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> I'm doubly sorry I foiled The Hog's plan, now. But I
> just couldn't
> face another encounter with American transportation.

But aside from that, did you enjoy yourself?  Did you
meet 'Lil Wally or Jeannie?  Does TS appear to be in
fairly good condition?

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>>http://tinyurl.com/2muxq
>>
>>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
>Monitor not included; not DVD; integrated sound and/or video -
>lower quality and not upgradeable (so says my son)
>clo

For $549, what does your son expect?  Especially considering the fact that
one is paying both the Microsoft Tax and the Intel Tax.

As Natalie said, not at all a bad deal.  Definitely a low-end system, sure,
but let's face it, those of us who are not into gaming or rendering --
i.e., most of us -- wouldn't really need anything more than maybe a memory
upgrade.

Ken Miller
Systems Annalist
Babbage Engine Works

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:38:48 PM Central Standard Time,
lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:
<<
She simply has to sign to have her
records moved to a covered facility.  Get in touch
with her insurance carrier and determine what her
options are.
>>

I hope it's that simple; all I know is that the new doctor
sent her a ton of paperwork.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>>rain was falling at Furrbabies when I picked up babykins.  I much
>>preferred the NYC weather.
>
> Yes, but don't be misled - this is not our typical December weather!
> And we often pay for it with blizzards at Easter.

Yes, I know it's not always like that.  That's why I said "I much
preferred the NYC weather" (as in that particular weather) to "I much
prefer NYC weather" (as in routinely).

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
> more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!

That was my thought when I read what Karen said.  I started to mention
it, but then didn't since it was pretty obvious that one would simply
have to rinse off plates and glasses before using them -- some of the
time anyway, not necessarily every time.  Because I like open windows,
dust would be a big problem if I had open cabinets.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 07:52:20 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas
<dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>
>>No, stbx reared its ugly head again. I need a plastic replica I
>>can leave in my stead that will nod and smile and say "Of course,
>>dear".
>
>? What does Starbucks have to do with this?
>
>Bethany

LOL!
Just leave it at that, Bethany!
clo

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Zhelayu vas schaslivovo novovo goda! and I'm outa here until the 6th off to Toronto early tomorrow morning  BrP    

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Betty wrote:

>
> Oh, good! Will you send presents even if you can't come?
>
> Betty

Yes, ma'am.  I will get to work on that right now.  I mentioned the
event to Ray last night and the response was not overwhelmingly
positive.  However, there is quite a bit of time to work on him yet :-)

Rita L.

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:37:02 -0600, Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>> A lazy-susan cupboard was one of my earliest toys. We kept canned goods
>> in it, and I made towers and sorted them by label color and size, until
>> the fateful day (my dad was on duty, as my mom never fails to point out)
>> when I removed <every> label.
>
>> For years, on lean-grocery days, the answer to "what's for supper" was
>
>> "uh- *sound of canopener* - stewed tomatoes!" (or green beans or corned
>> beef hash or whatever else turned up)
>
>Well, I keep pans in that cupboard; a lazy Susan cupboard would have
>to be big enough for that.
>
>Karen

Yes, I keep pans there too, now.
clo

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> This is where the ENT comes in handy. Perhaps something needs to be
> cared for to remove a blockage.

I had my ears cleaned by my doctor once a few years ago. She showed me
the huge wad of wax that was blocking my ear drum. I had trouble
believing all of that was in my ears.

Karen

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Betty wrote:

>
> I have the tag on my camera case and tell people that the BC is for Betty
> Clark and a friend had them specially made.
>
> Betty

Oooohhh!   Pressure!  Does this mean that the next batch of presents has
to be GOOD?

Rita L.

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 As Clyde's twin daughters were not born to the list.  How many
> babies have
> been born to the list?  Alan and Terry's were.

And Tony and Barbara's two children. I think Rita was gone for a
long period surrounding her pregnancy with Ana.

Marie

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:37:02 -0600, Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>>> A lazy-susan cupboard was one of my earliest toys. We kept canned goods
>>> in it, and I made towers and sorted them by label color and size, until
>>> the fateful day (my dad was on duty, as my mom never fails to point out)
>>> when I removed <every> label.
>>
>>> For years, on lean-grocery days, the answer to "what's for supper" was
>>
>>> "uh- *sound of canopener* - stewed tomatoes!" (or green beans or corned
>>> beef hash or whatever else turned up)
>>
>>Well, I keep pans in that cupboard; a lazy Susan cupboard would have
>>to be big enough for that.
>>
>>Karen

> Yes, I keep pans there too, now.
> clo

LOL!

Karen

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>And that reminds me to ask Bonniemae:  Is your cold gone?  I will feel
>much luckier when my ear-clog finally goes away.  It's especially cloggy
>right now.  For some reason it seems to come and go a bit.  At times I
>think there's hope that I may return to normal someday, but then the
>clogging comes back with a vengeance.  I really don't think any of that
>medicine helped.          -- Natalie

No, my cold is not gone either.  My ears and throat feel much, much
better.  But there is still lots of congestion.  I think the
over-the-counter decongestant helped me feel a bit more comfortable while
my body was getting over the worst of it.  I get better and then worse
also.  But I have hope that in a week or two I'll be back to normal.  I was
going to hike up Cadillac with April for New Year's Day sunrise.  I think
she'll start out around 4 tomorrow morning.  There is no way I'd have the
strength to do that.  It would be health-endangering to even try.  Maybe
next year -- that's what I have been saying for the last four years
now.  Illness sucks.

I'm amazed that you were able to enjoy New York City in the midst of your
illness.  I barely made it through company for Christmas dinner.  This
morning was the first time I left the house in seven days and that was just
to go to town for a knitting needle.  I guess I'm a wimp.


bonnie

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:22:09 -0800, Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:

>At 10:18 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>>I was probably wearing the more conservative clothing on this page:
>><http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/PersonalPage/cloatdesk11221976.jpg>
>>
>>clo
>
>I like this photo a lot!  You looked really cool smoking.
>
>Betty

LOL! Yes, I miss smoking. Someday I'll learn to resize jpgs, which
will make it much more interesting.

What I like abt the photo is that I can see the books on the shelf,
the drawings the old flame made for me, and the list of quotes I
kept for inspiration. I still have almost all of those,(I replaced
many of the books) in spite of losing nearly everything I owned a
couple of times.

clo

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Bookrat wrote:

> As Natalie said, not at all a bad deal.  Definitely a low-end system, sure,
> but let's face it, those of us who are not into gaming or rendering --
> i.e., most of us -- wouldn't really need anything more than maybe a memory
> upgrade.

I decided at the time of my last computer purchase that I was going to
go low-end from then on -- that with my modest computer needs and with
the rapid changing, making buying whole new computers desirable after
fairly short times, it just made more sense to stick to low ends.  I've
been quite content with this low-end Compaq the past couple of years.
And since I did not act on that bargain last night, I will probably
content myself with this Compaq for the foreseeable future.  I also have
no complaint against the early '98 Dell monitor I'm using.  It has
served me well and continues to do so.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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> the author of "T.A. for Tots," and a thoroughly loathsome

Ick. My father was a major TA junkie and I probably still have "TA for
Teens" around somewhere.

--Adam

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:45:43 -0800, Bookrat <bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM> wrote:

>>>http://tinyurl.com/2muxq
>>>
>>>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>>
>>Monitor not included; not DVD; integrated sound and/or video -
>>lower quality and not upgradeable (so says my son)
>>clo
>
>For $549, what does your son expect?  Especially considering the fact that
>one is paying both the Microsoft Tax and the Intel Tax.

I would say that he is looking at bang more than bucks. He is in the market
for a new computer, and is remarkably quick at catching loopholes and
 missing features in deals that look to me like they should be fine.


>As Natalie said, not at all a bad deal.  Definitely a low-end system, sure,
>but let's face it, those of us who are not into gaming or rendering --
>i.e., most of us -- wouldn't really need anything more than maybe a memory
>upgrade.
>
>Ken Miller
>Systems Annalist
>Babbage Engine Works


Probably true, and he actually pointed out the same thing about generic
users and sound cards; and of course, we didn't know Natalie wouldn't care
abt the monitor. But the DVD drive would still come in handy, I predict.

clo

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> > > No, I meant "The Boys", Alyce's were the first twins!
> > > clo
> >
> >They were not <born> to the list though.
> >              - D. M.
>
> As Clyde's twin daughters were not born to the list.  How many babies
have
> been born to the list?  Alan and Terry's were.
>
>
> bonnie

I had forgotten about Espen's grandtwins.
I have had grandchildren and great
grandchildren since I came onto the list.

                       - D. M.

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How far is the train station in Springfield from your apartment in W.
Springfield?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Maybe 4 or 5 miles. Easily pick-upable-from but there's no direct bus
service, and a cab would probably cost a fortune.

--Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: English Language Discussion Group
> [mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU]On Behalf Of Natalie Maynor
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>
>
> How far is the train station in Springfield from your apartment in W.
> Springfield?
>
> --
>   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:05:44 -0500 Adam said:
>Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
>Boston.
>However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
>work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.

As far as we know, March 27 would be fine.  It will be lovely to
see a few Wordies!

love, judith (and paul)

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Adam Hartfield wrote:
> Maybe 4 or 5 miles. Easily pick-upable-from but there's no direct bus
> service, and a cab would probably cost a fortune.

What about indirect bus service?  About what do you think a fortune is
re cab?

There are lots of trains to Springfield from places like Boston and NYC.
  I was playing on the Amtrak page a little while ago.

But hey -- if I'm not teaching, I could drive to SB.  That would mean
longer for Spencer to stay at Furrbabies, of course.  I will ponder
these matters.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, steph wrote:
> Cabinets without doors suck.  They collect dust.  We have our
> glassware in one, and periodically I have to pull everything out
> of it to dust the bottom of the shelves.

 All my stuff is in cabinets with doors, but I still have to do this
 from time to time.

Karen

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= all the rage now to have cupboards without doors. The woman who gave me her
= huge yarn stash had no doors on her cupboards, and I really liked them. I'd

Cabinets without doors suck.  They collect dust.  We have our
glassware in one, and periodically I have to pull everything out
of it to dust the bottom of the shelves.

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At 04:17 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Adam Hartfield wrote:
>>Maybe 4 or 5 miles. Easily pick-upable-from but there's no direct bus
>>service, and a cab would probably cost a fortune.
>
>What about indirect bus service?  About what do you think a fortune is
>re cab?
>
>There are lots of trains to Springfield from places like Boston and NYC.
>  I was playing on the Amtrak page a little while ago.

The train sounds intriguing.  We weren't planning on renting a car in
Boston, but of course, we could.

Betty

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> In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:15:17 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
>
> >My newest sport, however, is getting people who don't
> >know each other to talk together. It's interesting and not that easy!
> >
> >clo
> -----------
> It's not easy because not all people want to be bothered when total
strangers
> want to talk to them. I'd be one of those for sure.
> Theo

I love to talk to total strangers, at least those
who are thrown into my path.  Very often I find
the exchange was enlightening in some way.

                    - D. M.

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Someone's blocked off one of the briges and is going to do a
"professional" fireworks show.  So we're about to head off into
the cold to see what the new year brings.  See you next year!

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:41:24 -0500, clyde w. voigtlander <cwv@GWI.NET>
wrote:

>At 04:22 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote:
>
>
>>We have nary a cupboard.  An open pantry sports the goods.  I'd always
>>loved my grandmother's.  The only difference, her's had a door, ours
>>doesn't, so some of the lesser used stuff does need to be rinsed on
>>occasion.
>
>We have cupboards and a converted-closet pantry.  One of the "cottages" on
>West Street, formerly an inn but now a private residence, has a butler's
>pantry that I lust after.  It is a wide passage between kitchen and dining
>area, bordered on both sides with floor-to-ceiling cabinets (glass and wood
>doors).  Each side has a narrow shelf.  All is in very dark wood.
>
>cwv

Yes! I think that's what our house used to have, but the clowns
 who "modernized" it took that out in favor of more floor to mop
 in the kitchen!
clo

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Terry Wild wrote:

> This is what you need so your hair doesn't go flat -
>
> <http://www.sagesport.com/180searwarmers.html>
>
> Terry


My sister loves these things.  I would advise you to shop around though.  The prices given on the page above are high.
If you have a Kohl's in your area, you can almost always get them for 50% off...sometimes even 60%.  I picked up several for Christmas gifts for $10.00 at Kohl's.

Rita L.

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Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> Mom was taking him to the mailboxes by the leasing office so
> that she could pick up the mail.  When they were there, Tracey,
> the apartment manager who gave us grief over our cable, rushed
> out, and Bennie tore her pantyhose.  I hope we don't have to
> give him up.

Does your contract say anything about animals being evicted for
destroying panty hose?

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:48:56 +0100, steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM> wrote:

>Someone's blocked off one of the briges and is going to do a
>"professional" fireworks show.  So we're about to head off into
>the cold to see what the new year brings.  See you next year!


Happy European New Year!
clo

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At 05:49 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>Yes! I think that's what our house used to have, but the clowns
>  who "modernized" it took that out in favor of more floor to mop
>  in the kitchen!

Someone should have drowned them while they were still children.

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Doris Markland wrote:

> a hard time even staying awake until 12.  I never seem to
> have that problem, being a perpetual night person.

I can't remember when I last stayed up to welcome the New Year in my own
time zone.  Sometimes I do manage to stay up until 11:00 to watch Times
Square.  I figure that if the new year arrives safely in EST, it will
surely make it to CST without my help.

I'm mainly thankful that I don't have to go anywhere -- that the old
days of going places on New Year's Eve, which were fun many years ago,
are long gone.  I enjoyed those NY's Eves of yore, but I do not want
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The daughter is ahead right now in the mother-daughter real-estate
competition I set up last night:

> Boy, I like the way you think!  Let me check on the
> house on Gillespie and make certain it has not been
> rented yet.  If not, let's get you to take a look at
> it.  From there, we can start crunching numbers and
> see what we can do.

(posted without permission -- I'm getting looser in my old standards
about that -- am making judgment calls more often on things like this
that I know for sure are ok)

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Terry Wild wrote:

> We call those ear warmers also.  I didn't have time to go to our local
> fleece store or I would have brought you one.  They are just a strip of
> cloth that covers the ears.  I think it could still mess your hair up,
> especially in front.

The bangs could fall over the outside of it, so that wouldn't be a
problem.  It would give the hair a lift.  And the sides wouldn't really
matter since flat sides are ok.  It's flat tops that are bad.

Somebody in the archives I was zipping through called Verdant's haircut
a butch haircut.  Is it?  I hadn't thought of haircuts of that kind as
Butchie.  I don't want to have a Butchie haircut, but my basic haircut
is very much like Verdant's -- it's just that her hair acts better than
mine does.  Is mine Butchie?

> One of the first things I noticed was you were not wearing a hat.

I carried it in my purse Saturday, thinking that I would put it on if it
really came down to a matter of icy blasts on my sickly ears vs squshed
hair, but it never reached that point Saturday.  By Sunday, both the hat
and the scarf were in the suitcase, never to be dragged out again.  And
on Monday morning the coat also went into the suitcase.  I departed NYC
Monday coatless and quite comfortable (until getting home to cold
wetness).

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clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
>  Tomorrow we will
> take down the Christmas decorations inside and out and I'll do a small ham
> with sweet potatoes.

I have a can of black-eyed peas, a can of turnip greens, and an envelop
of cornbread mix.  And some ham slices.  That's what I will do at noon
tomorrow since that feels <right> on NY's.  Then tomorrow night I will
cook some soba noodles to bring Japanese good luck also.

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Rita Chapman wrote:

> Your face has changed a lot.

It has?  I didn't see that picture as clear enough to show much about my
face.  I guess I have the actual print somewhere.  Maybe tomorrow I'll
look for it.  I plan to get into my junk room tomorrow and start tossing
stuff and organizing stuff -- including pictures.

Anyway, that picture was probably early '70s -- iow, about 30 years ago.
  I guess it would be strange for a face not to change in 30 yrs.

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At 05:46 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>This seems a long way in advance to worry about the details, but I feel
>certain that somebody like me who's driving in from closer can pick people
>up at the train station and bring them the last 4-5 miles.
>
>clo

Will you be swinging by Boston?  I bought some packing bags at Brookstone's
yesterday so I can stuff lots into my suitcase.

Brookstone's seemed to have an excessive amount of hair removal
"stuff".  What's up with that? It looked like ear and nose stuff.  Are the
Queer Guys responsible for this, too?

Betty

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At 11:48 PM 12/31/2003 +0100, steph wrote:
>Someone's blocked off one of the briges and is going to do a
>"professional" fireworks show.  So we're about to head off into
>the cold to see what the new year brings.  See you next year!

What fun.  Happy New Year, pat and steph.  (And all wordslers)

Betty

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Excellent!  I hope Emily can make it, too!  Do you want cigars?

Betty

At 05:52 PM 12/30/2003 +0000, alfieri@COMCAST.NET wrote:
>NO WAY IS BETTY GETTING OUT OF SB!!!
>
>At this point all of March is open so 3/27 works for me.
>
>Thanks for thinking of me and Happy New Year to everyone!
>
>lisa
> > > Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...
> >
> > Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
> > Boston.
> >
> > However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
> > work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
> >
> > --Adam
> >

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At 06:07 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
I have a can of black-eyed peas, a can of turnip greens, and an envelop
>of cornbread mix.  And some ham slices.  That's what I will do at noon
>tomorrow since that feels <right> on NY's.  Then tomorrow night I will
>cook some soba noodles to bring Japanese good luck also.

Annual crab feed here at friends'.  Tonight we stay home with movies,
homemade pizza, beer, choc. covered strawberries, and champaign.

Betty

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At 10:00 AM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>LOL.  No, I just liked claiming the initials. I wish Natalie hadn't taken
>>my pen.
>
>I gave it back!  Remember when I started feeling guilty even though
>people like you were GIVING ME THEIR PENS?  I put some of the pens back
>on the picnic table and left them for others.  Now I wish I had taken
>them each and every one!

Yes, you did. You were over come with guilt and I'm teasing you!

Betty

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clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> I believe so, but it may take some e-mailing/telephoning to get everything
> arranged.  The only problem I have with Norton is that (for me, anyhow)
> their web site is not at all user-friendly.  In order to get to the point
> where they divulge a telephone number so that I can talk to a human being,
> I have to navigate this interminable set of web pages, answering all of the
> irrelevant questions.

I remember finding the renewal process confusing -- something about
asking you for some kind of pin or whatever, as if you're supposed to
have it before you renew.  I remember finally calling them last year,
but I think I figured it out this year.  I have the whole Norton, btw --
as in Norton System Works or whatever its name is.  It includes the
anti-virus, though that has to be renewed every year.  The other stuff
seems to be updating without any more money being asked for.  It might
be simpler just to buy the whole Norton package at Wmart if buying a new
computer.  Or maybe (if I do this thing) I'll go for the free
three-month Norton anti-virus and then worry about what to do next.

I think this deal is good for today only -- as in it expires at 11 p.m.
  I should rev up the brain and think upon it some more.  Maybe I should
get a notebook instead of another desktop.  Or maybe none of the above.

I've just been wheeler-dealering in real estate, btw.  I sent e-mail to
a mother-daughter pair of real-estate agents, the mother my next-door
neighbor, the daughter a new agent who lives not far away and who visits
her parents pretty often, which is where I see her.  (She's the one who
with her shortly-thereafter husband set out to spend three years roaming
the globe but came home at the request of both sets of parents after the
first year when 9/11 <happened>.  Interesting people.)  Anyway, I just
sent them e-mail outlining a mother-daughter competition for them.
(They work for the same agency.)  I told them that I was in love with a
house -- it's the house that I mentioned here earlier but that
supposedly sold but that in fact didn't sell because something fell
through -- and that, assuming I would feel the same way after seeing its
inside, my contest for them was to find a buyer for my house at a price
that would allow me to buy the other house and end up with $10,000
difference, after real-estate commissions -- iow, that I would give up
this house, move into that house, and have an extra $10,000.  I told
them that I wouldn't care what the prices were called -- that, as in
buying a car, all that matters is the difference.  I also told them that
it won't matter if it's impossible -- that I love this house in many
ways and definitely this neighborhood and that I will be content to live
here forever.  But I love that that house is much smaller and has a much
smaller yard.  As I said in the beginning, my only hesitation about this
house was that it's too big and the yard is too big.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty:
=
= I want to see your house. It always sounds so interesting.  Three stories,
= narrow, right?  I just want to see all of Amsterdam.  It's on my list.  I
= must hurry and retire.
=

Of course, please come for a visit!  I will give you the tour.
Of the house, and of Amsterdam, and of who knows what all else.

Our house is four stories and double-wide, and not narrow in the way that
they're usually narrow here.  I mean, only the bedroom seems at
all rectangular.  Everything else is practically square.  But
what I learned when we were house hunting for this one is that
they're all funky in their own way.

Ah, I think it's time for bed!

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> Great big gobs of ear wax.

Greasy grimy gopher guts.

Karen

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> Our windows have been closed for a while and I have dust. Lots of dust.

I have a HEPA filter, which really cuts down on the dust.

Karen

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I thought I remembered a long-haired picture online.  Just found it.
But it was longer than this at another time.  I'm still looking for one
of when it was longer.

http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Misc/hair.jpg

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 10:08 AM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>I thought I remembered a long-haired picture online.  Just found it.
>But it was longer than this at another time.  I'm still looking for one
>of when it was longer.
>
>http://www.msstate.edu/Archives/Words-L/Misc/hair.jpg

Great photo!

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Wishing everyone a very happy 2004!

Evelyn Duncan
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At 07:06 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> > Great big gobs of ear wax.
>
>Greasy grimy gopher guts.

Nobody likes me. Everybody hates me.

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Betty wrote:

> At 06:49 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>> Betty wrote:
>>
>>> Annual crab feed here at friends'.  Tonight we stay home with movies,
>>> homemade pizza, beer, choc. covered strawberries, and champaign.
>>
>>
>> I'm about to watch "Seabiscuit," which I rented this afternoon.
>
>
> We have three to choose from.  White Oleander, Alex & Emma, and Normal.


        We have Reservoir Dogs and The Usual Suspects.

        We are not doing anything special or eating anything special.
  I did get about 1 1/2 lbs. of wasabi peas today at Whole
Foods, though.  And I have a cabinet full of German
chocolate, thanks to Karolin.

        Right now I'm doing some schoolwork.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita


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At 02:15 AM 1/1/2004 +0100, steph wrote:
>Betty:
>=
>= I want to see your house. It always sounds so interesting.  Three stories,
>= narrow, right?  I just want to see all of Amsterdam.  It's on my list.  I
>= must hurry and retire.
>=
>
>Of course, please come for a visit!  I will give you the tour.
>Of the house, and of Amsterdam, and of who knows what all else.
>
>Our house is four stories and double-wide, and not narrow in the way that
>they're usually narrow here.  I mean, only the bedroom seems at
>all rectangular.  Everything else is practically square.  But
>what I learned when we were house hunting for this one is that
>they're all funky in their own way.

Sounds wonderful.

>Ah, I think it's time for bed!

Nite!

Betty

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:15:14 +0100, steph <stevie@MULTINIX.COM> wrote:

>Natalie Maynor:
>= Betty wrote:
>=
>= >I still miss the act of smoking.
>=
>= I guess they don't make candy cigarettes anymore, do they.  Remember
those?
>=
>
>Sure they do.  They just don't sell them to Americans because
>someone would surely report the parents of a child with a candy
>cigarette to CPS.

<http://www.oldtimecandy.com/bubble-gum-cigarettes.htm>

clo

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote:
> --- Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>> What was news to me was that sick, infirm, disabled
>> "downer" cows
>> are still introduced into the food system. I thought
>> that was
>> discontinued in '97. And there's no extra testing
>> precautions on
>> downers. Also it turns out that central nervous
>> system tissue is
>> not completely eliminated from the food supply. The
>> industry
>> has ways and ways of using that stuff.

> In case you haven't heard, the FDA has adopted new
> regulations re:  downers.  They can no longer be
> processed for human consumption (or, I guess, for
> anything consumption).

Never guess with the USDA.

Karen

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--- Rashmi Murthy <rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> What was news to me was that sick, infirm, disabled
> "downer" cows
> are still introduced into the food system. I thought
> that was
> discontinued in '97. And there's no extra testing
> precautions on
> downers. Also it turns out that central nervous
> system tissue is
> not completely eliminated from the food supply. The
> industry
> has ways and ways of using that stuff.

In case you haven't heard, the FDA has adopted new
regulations re:  downers.  They can no longer be
processed for human consumption (or, I guess, for
anything consumption).


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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> I'm against this.  How would these people feel if a
> bunch of possums
> grabbed one of them and put it through such an
> antic?

Is it any worse than Punxatawny Phil and his brethren?

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> As promised, I'm marking the calendar and will go about securing
> child care
> so the adult Wilds can join you.  What's the average time frame on this
> shindig?

People generally start arriving mid-afternoon and leave by 11. Dinner's
usually around 6:30 or 7.

--Adam

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> >rain was falling at Furrbabies when I picked up babykins.  I much
> >preferred the NYC weather.
> >
> >--
> >  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>
> Yes, but don't be misled - this is not our typical December weather!
> And we often pay for it with blizzards at Easter.
> clo

Not to mention that we've had two foot-plus snowstorms already this year!

Natalie got very lucky.

Marie

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--- Terry Wild <twild@URI.EDU> wrote:
> Best wishes for health and happiness to you all.
>
> Have fun!

But especially Health!  Best of everything to y'all!

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--- Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>   The Black Stallion, Black Beauty, a Spirit book,
> or Misty
> of Chincoteague.  >

I still have all to The Black Stallion books.  When I
was about Ana's age, I wrote a fan letter to Walter
Farley, c/o his publisher.  No, he never answered.

I gave Misty of Chincoteague to my grandson for
Christmas.  I have maternal relatives that live on
Assateague, but I've never met them.

It's good to know those books are classics, and horsey
kids are still reading them.  Has she tried My Friend Flick?

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> I have a can of black-eyed peas, a can of turnip
> greens, and an envelop
> of cornbread mix.  And some ham slices.  That's what
> I will do at noon
> tomorrow since that feels <right> on NY's.

You'd better, if your courting Lady Luck.

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--- Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:
> Wishing everyone a very happy 2004!

Thanks.  It's After the Thin Man for me, on TCM, then
watch the ball, then read until I'm sleepy.  Last New
Year's eve party I went to was 16 years ago, when we
had the houseboat.  I feel a LOT older now.

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Happy New Year, all - almost. I gave up partying on NYE many years ago - I
usually spend a quiet evening alone, as I am doing this year.

I left my office early this afternoon to prepare for a social call from a
good friend knowledgeable about furnishings, art, and clothing. I had some
ideas about furnishing my condo that I wanted to run by him. By the time
we had talked for two hours, I had clearer ideas. I will treat the living
area (living room, den - I am going to use the dining room as my study) as
a loft. Martin introduced me to the idea of wrought aluminum - and later
showed me some pieces at his apt., near here. I think I am now ready to
start looking for furniture.

Later I drove out to Border's - I wanted to see if they had _Furniture for
Dummies_ or something similar. Alas, they were closed. So I whipped by
Kroger's, then came on home.

I will probably see the ball drop at midnight (no possums here), but I may
see it from my bed!

Bethany

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:00:40 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:

>Marie Ascher wrote:
>
>> Natalie got very lucky.
>
>And that reminds me to ask Bonniemae:  Is your cold gone?  I will feel
>much luckier when my ear-clog finally goes away.  It's especially cloggy
>right now.  For some reason it seems to come and go a bit.  At times I
>think there's hope that I may return to normal someday, but then the
>clogging comes back with a vengeance.  I really don't think any of that
>medicine helped.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

This is where the ENT comes in handy. Perhaps something needs to be
cared for to remove a blockage.

clo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:13:10 -0600, Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>> It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
>> more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!
>
>I'm the kind of person who forgets about things when the door is shut
>on them--I think that's partly why I like the idea. I don't think I'd
>remove all the doors, just the upper ones.
>
>I *would* like to turn the stupid corner cupboards into a lazy-susan
>cupboard; I'd get a lot more use out of it.
>
>Karen

A lazy-susan cupboard was one of my earliest toys. We kept canned goods
in it, and I made towers and sorted them by label color and size, until
the fateful day (my dad was on duty, as my mom never fails to point out)
when I removed <every> label.

For years, on lean-grocery days, the answer to "what's for supper" was

"uh- *sound of canopener* - stewed tomatoes!" (or green beans or corned
beef hash or whatever else turned up)

clo

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Rita Chapman wrote:

>  I did get about 1 1/2 lbs. of wasabi peas today at Whole

Funny -- I bought two cans of wasabi peas at Wmart today and ate both of
them late this afternoon.  Must be a wasabi kind of day.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Lynne Weber wrote:

>kids are still reading them.  Has she tried My Friend Flick?

Flicka? Or is there another one?

Bethany

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I'm trying to decide whether to try to force myself to stay awake for
another whole hour to watch the ball fall.  I'm thinking I won't.  I
trust that the good vibes I left at Times Square a few days ago will
help that ball get down ok without my guidance.

I'm suddenly remembering a wonderful NY's Eve party in Florida when we
called people in every US time zone at their midnights.  Maybe not
Hawaii.  Was it even part of the US then?  I guess it was.  And I'm
remembering other funny NY's Eve parties.  One was in Knoxville, where
Suzanne Greenfield(?) Greenberg(?) Greensomething broke her foot
dancing.  And there was that crazy one in Starkville where we roamed the
streets all night long.  Ah, memories.

But the clock striketh 10 now.  I think that's late enough to stay up.

Happy New Year To All.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Lynne Weber wrote:

> --- Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>>  The Black Stallion, Black Beauty, a Spirit book,
>>or Misty
>>of Chincoteague.  >
>>
>
> I still have all to The Black Stallion books.  When I
> was about Ana's age, I wrote a fan letter to Walter
> Farley, c/o his publisher.  No, he never answered.
>
> I gave Misty of Chincoteague to my grandson for
> Christmas.  I have maternal relatives that live on
> Assateague, but I've never met them.
>
> It's good to know those books are classics, and horsey
> kids are still reading them.  Has she tried My Friend Flick?


        No, she's really only been reading fluently for a couple of
months.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita


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In a message dated 12/31/2003 9:50:42 PM Central Standard Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
<<
The groundhogs aren't captured and forced to do
anything, are they?
>>

Some guy in a top hat usually holds the groundhog up for
applause.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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By the bye, it's been unnaturally lovely and sunny here in Syracuse over
the holidays. BrP and I laughed over his daughter's request for a
white Christmas on the 22 or so, but it warmed up and everything is
gone now - it's been up and down between 30 and 50 most of the time
since, and yesterday was postively balmy. What's up with that!

clo

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 9:08:56 PM, clostran@SYR.EDU writes:

>Theo!
>Happy New Year!
>clo
>
And the same for all of you too. It feels so good to "see" all those familiar
faces again! I'm not too sure yet how mine's gonna be going, but if there's
gonna be a lotsa fingers getting crossed, who knows, huh? Theo

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NO WAY IS BETTY GETTING OUT OF SB!!!

At this point all of March is open so 3/27 works for me.

Thanks for thinking of me and Happy New Year to everyone!

lisa
> > Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...
>
> Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
> Boston.
>
> However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
> work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
>
> --Adam
>

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And now I'm off. Happy New Year from the strangely thawed
northeast!
clo

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> Oh, I understood that he/they lived in a cage most of the time.

I don't know.  I've never paid close attention to Pete or Phil or
whichever other ones there are.  I just look at the sky and reach my own
conclusions about shadows.  Living in a cage most of the time would be
kind of like a zoo animal (at least the old-fashioned zoos) -- not good,
but at least something an animal is used to -- not like the
panic-inducing situation of being grabbed for just a day and put into a
box to be lowered at midnight.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> There is much worse animal abuse, I realize, but that
> doesn't make it ok to scare a possum like that, imho.

I scare possums every chance I get.

Karen

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:50:27 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Lynne Weber wrote:
>>>I'm against this.  How would these people feel if a
>>>bunch of possums
>>>grabbed one of them and put it through such an
>>>antic?
>>
>> Is it any worse than Punxatawny Phil and his brethren?
>
>Yes, I think so.  The groundhogs aren't captured and forced to do
>anything, are they?  Isn't it just a matter of watching to see whether
>they come out of their holes on Feb. 2?  That poor possum was captured
>and messed with.  There is much worse animal abuse, I realize, but that
>doesn't make it ok to scare a possum like that, imho.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Oh, I understood that he/they lived in a cage most of the time.

clo

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This looks to me like a very good deal:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=4d46h9a&s=bsd

or

http://tinyurl.com/2muxq

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:41:50 -0500, bonniev <bonniev@GWI.NET> wrote:

>>I like to read sometimes, but there are times when people-watching is
>>very rewarding.
>
>Yes, I noticed that about you.  Every time I turned around at Acadiafest
>you seemed to be studying me.  What did you learn?
>
>>  My newest sport, however, is getting people who don't
>>know each other to talk together. It's interesting and not that easy!
>>clo
>
>That would be an Innkeeper skill.
>
>
>bonnie

That you have a lot of class. We invaded you pretty thoroughly, and
you were very patient.
clo

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Rabbit, rabbit

Karen

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>there in that crowd.  Maybe some year I'll do that.  I still regret that
>I did not go to Picadilly Circus at midnight the year I was in London on
>NY's.  I think I heard the NY arrive here last night also, though I
>didn't look at the clock to confirm it.  I heard the sound of
>firecrackers, an unusual sound in this extremely quiet neighborhood.

I went to sleep at 11:30 - I just could not keep my eyes open any longer.
I was awakened at midnight by the sound of firecrackers - something I
definitely did not expect in this neighborhood. The sounds were muted -
suggesting very small firecrackers.

I was at Times Sq. for NYE in 1960 - that was the night I learned the
wisdom of always carrying a subway token in my pocket. Several of us were
together, and our strategy for staying together was to hold hands. But of
course we periodically got separated by the movement of the crowd. One
person did not have any money/tokens with her, and she periodically
panicked, she said later. It would have been a long walk back to 96th St.

I have never found NYC scary or fearful - I did once find the French
Quarter in New Orleans scary on NYE - the crowd's movements were so
fierce that individuals were periodically in danger of being trampled.
(That was the year that underdog UT beat the crap out of over-rated
Miami.)

Happy morning after!
Bethany

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At 04:22 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, Terry Wild wrote:


>We have nary a cupboard.  An open pantry sports the goods.  I'd always
>loved my grandmother's.  The only difference, her's had a door, ours
>doesn't, so some of the lesser used stuff does need to be rinsed on
>occasion.

We have cupboards and a converted-closet pantry.  One of the "cottages" on
West Street, formerly an inn but now a private residence, has a butler's
pantry that I lust after.  It is a wide passage between kitchen and dining
area, bordered on both sides with floor-to-ceiling cabinets (glass and wood
doors).  Each side has a narrow shelf.  All is in very dark wood.

cwv

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Betty wrote:
> At 11:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
>> > Happy New Year, Karen.  Hope 2004 brings lots of job offers your way.
>>
>>Thank you, me too! Interestingly enough, some work may be wending my
>>way from my little sister...

> Your parents should have had more children!  You need all the help you can get!

LOL. 8 is definitely enough. As it is, we are 7 (my brother died a few
years ago), and getting reservations for 7 *anywhere* is tough.

Karen

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At 11:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> > Happy New Year, Karen.  Hope 2004 brings lots of job offers your way.
>
>Thank you, me too! Interestingly enough, some work may be wending my
>way from my little sister...

Your parents should have had more children!  You need all the help you can get!

B

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Betty wrote:

>  I was just sitting here thinking
> about the people that I would never have met without it.  Kenn C. Miller
> comes to mind.

I often think of that.  I can't imagine returning to life before
Words-L.  I don't remember how it worked and don't want to reexperience it.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Your face has changed a lot.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
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At 10:06 AM 1/1/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
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>>  It would have been a long walk back to 96th St.
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>Chickenfeed for Rashmi, who strolled down from 89th(?) to meet us at The
>Mermaid (around 5th)...

Having hiked with her this past summer, I am not surprised.

cwv

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>there's something psychologically <unpleasant> about walking with no
>sidewalks -- that's what makes a big difference in cities -- sidewalks
>  -- Natalie

Odd.  I've never had that reaction when hiking in Acadia.


bonnie

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Theo Groothof wrote:

> Sneakers must be an American term, because I've called them tennis shoes, but

I can assure you that "tennis shoes" isn't just a Dutch term (or
whatever non-American source you have in mind for it).  It's all I've
ever called them (except for being more precise in later years if it
involved a sporting activity -- e.g., running shoes and tennis shoes are
not the same -- the treads are different).  "Sneakers" is a term I first
encountered in reading and have seldom heard actually uttered.

I don't know how reliable this survey was that has become prominent on
the net, but here's what it gives for the shoe terminology (things like
"running shoes" came much later in my life, I should add -- I'm betting
that was not a common term anywhere in the country in the '50s):

http://hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_73.html

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 09:13 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:

>Right! The only reason I mentioned those people is because I CC'd them, as
>I'm not sure if they're actively reading everything. I haven't heard from
>Emily in months; does anyone know if she's reading her Yale email?

She's in LA for the holidays and will prolly catch up with her Yale email
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Karen Kay wrote:

>>Have Marie call The Mermaid.  And we never even revealed that we had an
>><inside connection>.  They were nice to us anyway.
>
> Is there a Chicago branch?

Don't see why there couldn't be.  But each of the JB restaurants is
designed to fit its neighborhood.  So study would need to be done to put
the right restaurant in the right Chicago neighborhood.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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>Have you started your Dale of Norway sweater, Bonnie?
>Karen

Yes.  I had a sleeve almost done when I decided that I had to start over
because I was knitting so far off the stated gauge.  Instead of the
recommended size 2, 3, 4 needles, I am now using size 4, 5, 6 needles and
have finished a sleeve.  I am now very close to the gauge:  24 stitches to
four inches in pattern.   It looks very, very nice.  Basically it is black,
red, and white.  It has teal and plum highlights.  The plum is only on the
cuffs.


bonnie

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http://www.qwantz.com/20031125.html

wlm, big-time

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At 04:28 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote:
>Ana and I spent an enjoyable 1/2 hour today sprawled on the
>floor at Borders as she tried to decided which book to buy:
>  The Black Stallion, Black Beauty, a Spirit book, or Misty
>of Chincoteague.  Then we hobbled downstairs and I picked up
>a copy of Seabiscuit.
>
>Life gets no better.  We ride together, she is starting to
>read all my favorite books from when I was a kid, and she
>has a growing little Breyer horse collection.  This
>motherhood thing is glorious in new ways all the time.

This gives me warm fuzzies. You've been blessed.

Betty

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At 05:07 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Terry Wild wrote:
>
>>We call those ear warmers also.  I didn't have time to go to our local
>>fleece store or I would have brought you one.  They are just a strip of
>>cloth that covers the ears.  I think it could still mess your hair up,
>>especially in front.
>
>The bangs could fall over the outside of it, so that wouldn't be a
>problem.  It would give the hair a lift.  And the sides wouldn't really
>matter since flat sides are ok.  It's flat tops that are bad.
>
>Somebody in the archives I was zipping through called Verdant's haircut
>a butch haircut.  Is it?  I hadn't thought of haircuts of that kind as
>Butchie.  I don't want to have a Butchie haircut, but my basic haircut
>is very much like Verdant's -- it's just that her hair acts better than
>mine does.  Is mine Butchie?
Yes, and you have the lesbian shoes to go with it!  (Hi, steph)

Betty

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, bonniev wrote:
> Yes.  I had a sleeve almost done when I decided that I had to start over
> because I was knitting so far off the stated gauge.

Re-knitting is the sign of a good knitter.

> It looks very, very nice.

YaY!

> Basically it is black, red, and white. It has teal and plum
> highlights. The plum is only on the cuffs.

These are the same colors that were in the sweater I was knitting when
I stopped knitting! Anyway, this sounds very nice.

I'm finishing up lace socks for my sister and working on a lace mohair
stole for me, then I have two pairs of socks for My Sweet Polenta, and
one for me. THEN I can put my New Year's resolution into effect, which
is to do more colorwork. (Though my corrugated socks are a kind of
colorwork, I was specifically thinking Fair Isle.) Oops, I have those
fancy colored socks to finish--but I still have to wash the yarn,
which still stinks of Burl-pee.

I was thinking of you and your sweater when I thought of colorwork. Do
you do it two-handed?

Karen

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Karen Kay wrote:

> But didn't you like 'nature's dominoes'? I LOL'ed.

Yes.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 01:57 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>
>>It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
>>more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!
>
>That was my thought when I read what Karen said.  I started to mention
>it, but then didn't since it was pretty obvious that one would simply
>have to rinse off plates and glasses before using them -- some of the
>time anyway, not necessarily every time.  Because I like open windows,
>dust would be a big problem if I had open cabinets.

Our windows have been closed for a while and I have dust. Lots of dust.

Oh, this is more fun than talking about ear wax!  Great big gobs of ear wax.

B

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> http://www.qwantz.com/20031125.html
>
>I've always hated that horse/barn sentence for some reason.  I've never
>been sure why since it's a useful illustration of garden-path
>structures.  But my gut has always disliked it.

And I have long loved that sentence - because it works!

Bethany

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 6:59:26 PM Central Standard Time,
bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes:
<<
We have three to choose from.  White Oleander, Alex & Emma, and Normal.
>>

Netflix sent me UFO Vol. 5, so I have that and Metropolis (thanks, Lynne!)
to watch tonight.

Now I know what I want to buy with part of my tax refund:  UFO, the
complete DVD set.

Evelyn Duncan
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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> Yes, I think so.  The groundhogs aren't captured and
> forced to do
> anything, are they?  Isn't it just a matter of
> watching to see whether
> they come out of their holes on Feb. 2?  That poor
> possum was captured
> and messed with.  There is much worse animal abuse,
> I realize, but that
> doesn't make it ok to scare a possum like that,
> imho.

Those groundhogs that are regular predictors are held
captive year round.

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I poked around a little bit in my junk room and decided to wait until
tomorrow to get into that task.  It's overwhelming.  Didn't see the
long-hair pictures I was looking for.  Did find this one that is of near
the same era as that backpack one, though a different style picture and
obviously with hair straight that instant out of the rollers:

http://www.maynor.net/Temp/natalie.jpg

And found this one from several years later, after the hair was gone:

http://www.maynor.net/Temp/jog.jpg

That jogging one was in Knoxville, probably around '75.  The earlier one
was around '71.  Iow, the earlier one was a Natalie in her late 20s, the
jogging one a Natalie in her early 30s.

I really am eager to get on with the junkroom clearing, but I just don't
have the proper motivation today.  The day is getting too late.  I think
I'm going to read a New Orleans book that I just pulled out from the
stack where it has sat for a couple of years.  Spencer and I went for a
little walk a little while ago but got drizzled on.  That's about it for
NY's news from Starkpatch.
--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> What I like abt the photo is that I can see the
> books on the shelf,
> the drawings the old flame made for me, and the list
> of quotes I
> kept for inspiration. I still have almost all of
> those,(I replaced
> many of the books) in spite of losing nearly
> everything I owned a
> couple of times.


What happened to the grater on the shelf?  Is it one
of those constant companions?


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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:44:30 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>This looks to me like a very good deal:
>
>http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=4d46h9a&s=bsd
>
>or
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2muxq
>
>--
>
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Monitor not included; not DVD; integrated sound and/or video -
lower quality and not upgradeable (so says my son)
clo

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> > It looks very, very nice.
>YaY!

Thank you for your interest.  I showed Deb, at the yarn shop, my sleeve and
she, too, thought it was very nice work.  I'm encouraged.

>I was thinking of you and your sweater when I thought of colorwork. Do
>you do it two-handed?           --Karen

Yes, I do.  I bought myself the used book "Flying Geese & Partridge Feet:
More Mittens from Up North & Down East".  I ordered it through Amazon.com's
used books.  It is out of print but they had three copies.  Downeast Books
printed it right here in Camden, Maine.  It was sent back to me in Maine
from Ohio.

Anyway, it talks in there about two-handed colorwork.  I once knew how to
do that.  So I re-taught myself.  It is so much easier.  The yarn does not
get twisted and tangled in the back of the work.  I used to have to stop
every few rows and untangle yarn.  Now I don't need to do that.  I've even
gotten so good that when knitting a row with three colors I can hold two
colors in my left hand and carry the dominant color with my right.


bonnie

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> Spencer likes black-eyed peas.  I gave him only a
> couple -- just enough
> to assure a happy 2004 -- but he wanted more.  What
> I bet he would've
> really loved would've been some of the pot liquor on
> cornbread.  But I
> don't want to get him into people food and make him
> into a
> botherer/beggar.

Jaysie will trade Spencer a few broken Ritz crackers
for 2 or 3 BEP's.

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> >And we just received a call from Mom's doctor
> stating that she
> >has spots on her latest lung X-rays, so she wants
> to see Mom,
> >but Mom's insurance will no longer cover this
> doctor or any
> >other doctor from Springer Clinic after tomorrow.

> Ouch. This is a problem. Is there another place the
> insurance will cover
> that you trust, and that can see her quickly?

Evelyn, doesn't your mother have Medicare?  There must
be some clinic that's covered, whatever type of
insurance she has.  She simply has to sign to have her
records moved to a covered facility.  Get in touch
with her insurance carrier and determine what her
options are.  You should be able to do that with a
couple of phone calls.

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
I
> guess my point is
> that red flags might be in order if the process
> seems too complicated --
> that something may be amiss.


Natalie is correct there should not be wads of
paperwork.  This can only mean duplication.  She will
have to sign a release to secure her records, fill out
"new Patient information" (1 - 3 pages at most), a
HIPPA agreement, and provide copies of all insurance
cards.  Anything else is requested is superfluous
information, duplication, triplication, etc.  That's
what copiers and Faxes are for.  Just take it one page
at a time, ascertain what info is wanted, and if it
doesn't make sense, start a pile of paperwork for the
doctor(s), clinics, and inform them you have already
provided the info on such-and-such form.  If there's
that much paperwork involved, it sounds fishy.

Were there any repercussions from the pantyhose caper?

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Well, I am worried about him; I just took him for a walk, and a
neighbor approached.  Bennie turned from a friendly little dog
into a snarling, growling one.  Something has happened lately;
I wish I knew what it was.

Evelyn Duncan
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Lynne Weber wrote:

> Jaysie will trade Spencer a few broken Ritz crackers
> for 2 or 3 BEP's.

The cooked ones are all gone now, though I did put about half the can
into a little refrigerator container before cooking the other half.
After a week or so I will presumably throw away the ones in the
refrigerator.  I hate that they didn't have any tiny cans of BEPs.
Ditto turnip greens.  I had to buy big cans of both.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:00:10 -0500, Karen Kay <karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:16:10 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU>
>wrote:
>>What I chiefly mourn is the loss of 1920s-style cabinetry and lots
>>of places to put things.
>
>I can't remember how I learned this--maybe the Fab 5. But it seems to be
>all the rage now to have cupboards without doors. The woman who gave me her
>huge yarn stash had no doors on her cupboards, and I really liked them. I'd
>love to do that to mine, but that means that I'd have to removed all the
>tacky contact paper, and that I'd have to do a lot of sanding standing on
>the counter--not my favorite things. But I'm still thinking about it.
>
>Karen

It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!
clo

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Usually I don't buy the kind of food that will result in unused portions
> , so it's not a regular problem.  But in a case like this, it was all I
> could do. I had to have bep's and tg's.  The same would have happened if
> I had bought bags instead of cans, except that probably I would have
> kept the frozen bags longer -- but then I would ultimately have thrown
> them out -- after they were caked with frost, and that would have been
> more waste since the bags hold more than cans.

Why wouldn't you eat bep's twice in a year?

Karen

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--- Paul Barfoot <Prbarfoo@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Zhelayu vas schaslivovo novovo goda! and I'm outa
> here until the 6th off to Toronto early tomorrow
> morning  BrP

He's off to a Snowbash he's not telling you about, as
his name was not on "the list."


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In a message dated 1/1/2004 3:51:44 PM Central Standard Time,
natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes:
was Bennie snarling at the person?

Yes, at him.  This worries me.

Evelyn Duncan
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Karen Kay wrote:

> Why wouldn't you eat bep's twice in a year?

I eat them many times in a year -- in the cafeteria.  I often eat them
on rice as my <main course>.  But I would have no occasion to eat them
at home since I don't do that kind of cooking/eating at home except on NY's.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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ASCHER MARIE wrote:

> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=2197694

They're beautiful!!

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Rita Chapman wrote:

>> I'm about to watch "Seabiscuit," which I rented this afternoon.
>>
>        I just bought the book today, but won't get to it for a

I think I read that the book is better than the movie -- not unusual, of
course.  The first half or so of the movie was mega-boring.  I started
to turn it off.  The last part I enjoyed, though it was predictable and
soupy.

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  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> A lazy-susan cupboard was one of my earliest toys. We kept canned goods
> in it, and I made towers and sorted them by label color and size, until
> the fateful day (my dad was on duty, as my mom never fails to point out)
> when I removed <every> label.

> For years, on lean-grocery days, the answer to "what's for supper" was

> "uh- *sound of canopener* - stewed tomatoes!" (or green beans or corned
> beef hash or whatever else turned up)

Well, I keep pans in that cupboard; a lazy Susan cupboard would have
to be big enough for that.

Karen

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 9:53:32 AM, Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:

>> Your parents should have had more children!  You need all the help you
>can get!
>
I surely could have used help from my family, but both my ex and I were only
children. Of course there wouldn't have been a garantee all of them would have
moved to this country!
Theo

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Ann Borkin wrote:
>> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=2197694
>>
>> (Yesterday's u/s)

> Thanks, Ma-rie!

> Looks like a moon landing.  This is gonna be fun.

It looks Very Crowded in there!

Karen

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bonniev wrote:

> And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's
> resolutions.

She often takes long breaks, though.  I am confident she will pop in
again sometime soon.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Lynne Weber wrote:

>>I have a can of black-eyed peas, a can of turnip
>>greens, and an envelop
>>of cornbread mix.  And some ham slices.  That's what
>>I will do at noon
>>tomorrow since that feels <right> on NY's.
>
> You'd better, if your courting Lady Luck.

I realize that what I wrote about feeling right is confusing.  I meant
it feels right to do it at noon.  Of course I would not NOT eat
blackeyed peas on NY's.  I remember the time I was making the long drive
back to Melbourne, FL, on NY's Day and suddenly realized that I had to
eat blackeyed peas.  I stopped at a convenience store and amazingly
found a bag of them.  Bought it and swallowed several raw ones in my car
as I drove onward.  After sixty years of blackeyed peas on NY's, I'm not
about to risk not eating them.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 16:33:50 EST, Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:

>Well, I am worried about him; I just took him for a walk, and a
>neighbor approached.  Bennie turned from a friendly little dog
>into a snarling, growling one.  Something has happened lately;
>I wish I knew what it was.
>
>Evelyn Duncan
>EDuncan368@aol.com
>I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

Now we are back at the point where you need to enroll in an owner-training
class (aka dog training). There are also good reliable books about dog
behavior that can help. Having us guess from incomplete descriptions of
his behavior won't be as good as working with an experienced dog trainer
who can teach you how to reinforce good behavior.

clo

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In a message dated 12/31/2003 7:32:42 PM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes:

>Nobody likes me. Everybody hates me.
------
Not everybody, Betty! I'm stone deaf from the accident, and have to wear 2
hearing aids, but I once had a friend who had that problem, and when he took me
in for an exam, he thought that it was mine too. But my ears were cleaner than
anyone's.
Talking on the phone is hard for me because it's nerve deafness; iow I can
hear sounds when you speak up, but not the meaning of the words when you speak
fast. That's why I like this medium a lot!
Theo

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Theo Groothof wrote:
> In a message dated 1/1/2004 3:19:07 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:

>>This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.  I
>>must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw them
>>out until they are inedible.  It defies reason, but I
>>can't break the habit.
>>
> It's probably because of the way you were brought up. I cannot stand to waste
> anything either, whether it's food or electricity!

But Lynne DOES waste the food! She just keeps it till it rots.

> When people complain about their meager incomes, I always think:
> "If you didn't waste so much, you'd have more money to spend"

I'm sure you do think this. That doesn't make it true, however.

Karen

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 3:19:07 PM, lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:

>This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.  I
>must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw them
>out until they are inedible.  It defies reason, but I
>can't break the habit.
>
It's probably because of the way you were brought up. I cannot stand to waste
anything either, whether it's food or electricity!
When people complain about their meager incomes, I always think:
"If you didn't waste so much, you'd have more money to spend"
Theo

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:49:38 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Betty wrote:
>
>> Annual crab feed here at friends'.  Tonight we stay home with movies,
>> homemade pizza, beer, choc. covered strawberries, and champaign.
>
>I'm about to watch "Seabiscuit," which I rented this afternoon.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

We have been having an orgy of video watching lately, culminating in
8 Mile last night with a friend who grew up in Detroit, and Harry Potter
1 & 2 tonight (Aaron's choice).

V has already gone to bed; our tradition is <not> to see the NY in,
but to let the kids do it (they used to put sleeping bags down in the
L. rm, and watch Marx Bros and 2 Stooges till they fell asleep).

But my daughter's away, so I feel torn between sleep and giving Aaron
somebody to talk to.

clo
clo

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=
= <http://www.oldtimecandy.com/bubble-gum-cigarettes.htm>
=
= clo

I ordered some stuff from a company just like this last year.  It
was mostly more fun to think about ordering the stuff, and to get
the box, than to actually eat the candy.  But now that I've poked
around here, I see that Adams has whipped up a batch of Beemans,
Black Jack and Clove gum.  Yum.

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 4:43:49 PM Central Standard Time,
clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
<<
Now we are back at the point where you need to enroll in an owner-training
class
>>

I know, but how to get him there?

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 10:02:15 PM, aborkin@RAHUL.NET writes:

>Welcome back, Theo, and Happy New Year.
>
>Is it time to trade insults again?  You tell us how crappy our systems
>in place are, and we'll dump on you in return.  Sound like fun?
>
>Ann
>==========
Couldn't have said it any better! I don't mind criticizing, justdon't say I'm
lying, because I don't lie. Perhaps it's difficult for some people to
believe, but I just don't see any future in it. You're gonna be caught sooner or
later anyway, and then you look like a fool. OK?

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

>
> Interesting.  I've never heard of the Mississippi State Creamery -- that
> name, I mean.  Is that what the cheese-making division is called?

All I can report is that the program host referred to it that way.


> But the enology program has pretty much died now.  The vineyards are
> empty, and the lab
> sits there doing I'm not sure what most of the time.

That's too bad.  It looked pretty interesting.  I didn't look at the end
credits to see when the show was produced.
They do tend to repeat the same ones year after year on that channel.
After reading your message, I tried to
follow the link on the foodtv page to the msstate.edu page and got a
404.  Obviously, the tv program is out of date.

Rita L.

--

Rita Leonard
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From: bonniev <bonniev@GWI.NET>>
>I like to read sometimes, but there are times when people-
> watching is
> >very rewarding.
>
> Yes, I noticed that about you.  Every time I turned around at
> Acadiafestyou seemed to be studying me.  What did you learn?

I had the same feeling when in clo's presence for that short while
after Alyce's memorial service.

Marie

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 6:28:27 PM Central Standard Time,
rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes:
<<
        In any case, Bennie could be developing an aggression problem
or he could just be protective and caught a bad vibe.
Aggression always gets worse, though.
>>

I know.  Someone on another list mentioned Rescue Remedy.
I hope Southern Agriculture has that or something else I can
try.

I know he was upset last night due to the fireworks, and the
people who gave us Daisy has a dog that lunged at Bennie
a couple of nights ago.  But Bennie hasn't had problems with
people, as far as I know.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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They look just like you ;).

ASCHER MARIE wrote:

> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=2197694
>
> (Yesterday's u/s)
>
> Marie
>
>


--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
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Funny timing.  Marie had been telling me about dogruns the other night
when I was worrying about the concrete life of NYC dogs.  And here's an
article about them that I just stumbled upon in the VV while cruising
today's news:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0353/amadkison.php

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:30:52 -0800, Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU>
wrote:

>At 04:17 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>>Adam Hartfield wrote:
>>>Maybe 4 or 5 miles. Easily pick-upable-from but there's no direct bus
>>>service, and a cab would probably cost a fortune.
>>
>>What about indirect bus service?  About what do you think a fortune is
>>re cab?
>>
>>There are lots of trains to Springfield from places like Boston and NYC.
>>  I was playing on the Amtrak page a little while ago.
>
>The train sounds intriguing.  We weren't planning on renting a car in
>Boston, but of course, we could.
>
>Betty

This seems a long way in advance to worry about the details, but I feel
certain that somebody like me who's driving in from closer can pick people
up at the train station and bring them the last 4-5 miles.

clo

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=
= It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
= more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!
= clo

clone.

And our house is not dusty at all (we have no carpets anymore,
YaY! and we dust and vaccuum every week).

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

>  It would have been a long walk back to 96th St.

Chickenfeed for Rashmi, who strolled down from 89th(?) to meet us at The
Mermaid (around 5th).  The interesting thing was that she walked in
almost precisely on the appointed minute, though she was not wearing a
watch.

Actually, distances in NYC don't seem as far as they would some place
like Starkville.  I remember doing things like walking from W. 83rd to
Times Square on past trips without really thinking that that's a pretty
hefty hike.  Even on this trip, where I walked more in circles than in
spread-out stretches, I realized that if I added those circles together,
it would amount to quite a good distance (which is why I was sore the
whole time I was there -- I should walk more in Starkville -- but
there's something psychologically <unpleasant> about walking with no
sidewalks -- that's what makes a big difference in cities -- sidewalks
and interesting sights along the routes).  Anyway, my morning trek down
to check e-mail from my hotel on 55th to the net cafe on 42nd felt like
walking next door.  Yet I almost never walk even that distance in
Starkville.

> I have never found NYC scary or fearful - I did once find the French
> Quarter in New Orleans scary on NYE - the crowd's movements were so
> fierce that individuals were periodically in danger of being trampled.

I definitely go into <alert> mode in certain areas at certain times in
the Quarter (unrelated to crowds -- or actually related to sparsity of
crowds -- crowds are safer) -- with my <alert> mode being one of faked
nonchalance -- as in looking as if I know exactly where I'm going and do
it regularly and am steely and street-smart.  The thought of stopping
and looking lost or looking at a map or whatever would be a major no-no
at such times.  (I'm not talking about normal strollings along major
streets like Bourbon and Royal.  I'm talking about things like hiking
out from Burgundy St. before daylight to look for breakfast or walking
back to that kind of area alone late at night.)  I never feel that way
in NYC -- at least in Manhattan -- at least in the parts of Manhattan
I'm likely to be in.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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> > steel hardware, or nice oak Craftsman-y type somethings. If I wanted
> > cabinets without doors, I'd put up shelves.
>
> Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.
>
> Karen

I didn't say they were.

Hee. Really, what is the point of cabinets without doors? Stuff gets dusty.

--Adam

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:15:04 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Lynne Weber wrote:
>
>> Jaysie will trade Spencer a few broken Ritz crackers
>> for 2 or 3 BEP's.
>
>The cooked ones are all gone now, though I did put about half the can
>into a little refrigerator container before cooking the other half.
>After a week or so I will presumably throw away the ones in the
>refrigerator.  I hate that they didn't have any tiny cans of BEPs.
>Ditto turnip greens.  I had to buy big cans of both.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Hoppin' John and collard greens have been eaten, as taught to me by Mom.

clo

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At 04:23 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Doris Markland wrote:
> > Best wishes for health and happiness to you all.
> >
> > Have fun!
> >
> > Terry
> >
>
>Yes, indeed.  A big Happy New year to all Wordslers,
>wherever you are.
>
>We will be with friends, several couples who've seen
>many new years in together . . .

A quiet time here.  It is warm enough that I can grill outside tonight (to
the lights on the cedars surrounding the deck).  I never could quite fathom
the celebration.  We'll have Stilton-encrusted steaks, fries and a salad,
then settle down to watch one of our new (or newer) DVDs.  Tomorrow we will
take down the Christmas decorations inside and out and I'll do a small ham
with sweet potatoes.  Friday, with any luck at all, our long-awaited
water-heater upgrade will occur.  Such is life in the slow lane.

cwv

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Adam Hartfield wrote:
>> But at least you can see what you have.

> And you can do that too with cabinets, by opening the doors. :)

The way my kitchen works, I have to close one door to open another,
pretty much.

> You probably don't store most of your cooking vessels on top of your
> cabinets.

Nope. I have nothing on top of my cabinets. I need to get up there to
remove the wallpaper, but I'm not looking forward to that.

> I do, so I can see half of what I have anyway.

Ah, well, then!

Karen

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Adam Hartfield wrote:
>> > steel hardware, or nice oak Craftsman-y type somethings. If I wanted
>> > cabinets without doors, I'd put up shelves.
>>
>> Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.
>>
>> Karen

> I didn't say they were.

Just checking.

> Hee. Really, what is the point of cabinets without doors? Stuff gets dusty.

But at least you can see what you have.

Karen

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--- Adam Hartfield <adamh1@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> You probably don't store most of your cooking
> vessels on top of your
> cabinets. I do, so I can see half of what I have
> anyway.


Yeah, but how often do you have to wash the grease and
grime off of them?

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At 11:32 AM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:05:44 -0500, Adam Hartfield <adamh1@COMCAST.NET>
>wrote:
>
> >> Is there a SnowBash date yet? My February is about full...
> >
> >Potential date of March 27 to coincide with Betty and Larry's trip to
> >Boston.
> >
> >However, Emily Rashmi Judith Lisa, let me know please if that does/does not
> >work for y'all. Betty is okay with missing SB.
> >
> >--Adam
>
>I am coming home from Burlington VT - work conference 24-26 - it's perfect
>for me!
>  clo

Yay!

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Karen Kay wrote:
> On Thursday, January 01, 2004, steph wrote:
>> Well, duh.  If you now know from experience that it's a problem,
>> why don't you all do a little planning?

>> signed, miss smartypants

> Duh, we do. A little.:) But with 7 people who have lives, timing is
> usually not determinable till right before.

> Did I talk about my trip? 8 hours stuck in O'Hare. I felt like Charlie
> on the MTA. Planes went, but none of them had me on it. We went
> through planes A to G. It's one of the least fun trips I've
> had--though I did run into someone I knew in O'Hare.

> Karen

Oops--we went through *plans* A through G.

Karen

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Karen Kay wrote:

>> had--though I did run into someone I knew in O'Hare.

> Was he wearing shoes?

> --
>   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

I didn't check, but I'd bet that he was.

Karen

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At 11:28 PM 12/31/2003 +0100, steph wrote:
>=
>= It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
>= more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!
>= clo
>
>clone.
>
>And our house is not dusty at all (we have no carpets anymore,
>YaY! and we dust and vaccuum every week).

I want to see your house. It always sounds so interesting.  Three stories,
narrow, right?  I just want to see all of Amsterdam.  It's on my list.  I
must hurry and retire.

We have ripped the carpet up out of our dining room and more recently out
of our bedroom.  Now I can SEE the dust bunnies.

Betty

Betty

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Betty wrote:

> And Natalie your hair style works for you. It looks nice on you and is easy
> to care for.   I need wash and wear hair as I have no talent in those
> departments.

I spent the first 30+ years of my life sleeping on rollers every night
-- and doing rollers again during the day if I had somewhere important
to go that night.  And I had permanents every three months.

I then tried the long, straight thing for a short while, but even then I
used rollers and had permanents.  And my hair looked ugly and stringy.
It's not thin -- it's fine.  I think we've discussed that before.  Some
people think thin and fine are the same thing, but they aren't.  Thin
has to do with how many hairs are poking out of the head -- I have
plenty.  Fine has to do with the skinniness of each one of those hairs.
  Mine are very skinny -- like cobwebs.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

> Annual crab feed here at friends'.  Tonight we stay home with movies,
> homemade pizza, beer, choc. covered strawberries, and champaign.

I'm about to watch "Seabiscuit," which I rented this afternoon.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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steph wrote:

> http://www.qwantz.com/20031125.html
>
> wlm, big-time

I've always hated that horse/barn sentence for some reason.  I've never
been sure why since it's a useful illustration of garden-path
structures.  But my gut has always disliked it.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 06:49 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>Annual crab feed here at friends'.  Tonight we stay home with movies,
>>homemade pizza, beer, choc. covered strawberries, and champaign.
>
>I'm about to watch "Seabiscuit," which I rented this afternoon.

We have three to choose from.  White Oleander, Alex & Emma, and Normal.

Betty

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> steph wrote:

>> http://www.qwantz.com/20031125.html
>>
>> wlm, big-time

> I've always hated that horse/barn sentence for some reason.  I've never
> been sure why since it's a useful illustration of garden-path
> structures.  But my gut has always disliked it.

But didn't you like 'nature's dominoes'? I LOL'ed.

Karen

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> kind of like a zoo animal (at least the
> old-fashioned zoos) -- not good,
> but at least something an animal is used to -- not
> like the
> panic-inducing situation of being grabbed for just a
> day and put into a
> box to be lowered at midnight.


But that's exactly what happens to the groundhogs,
plus, they are awoken just to shed their shadows.  The
only difference is, the possum makes a descent.  If
you've ever seen the Punuxatawney keepers go after
Phil, you would know he's no happy hog.

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>>  It would have been a long walk back to 96th St.
>
>Chickenfeed for Rashmi, who strolled down from 89th(?) to meet us at The
>Mermaid (around 5th).  The interesting thing was that she walked in

Chickenfeed indeed for anyone who like to walk in Manahttan, as I
definitely do. But at 2 a.m. on 1/1/60, it would indeed have been a
long walk.

My favorite long walk was one from the Metropolitan Museum up to the end
of Central Park, over to Broadway, back down to Dean & Delucca, then back
up (with a stop at Starbucks) to the Cathedral Church of St. John the
Divine - my guess is that I walked about 8 miles that Sunday afternoon.

And earlier that day, I had walked from the Convent of St. Helena (where I
was staying) at 134 East 28th St. up to the Church of Saint Mary the
Virgin at 139 West 46 Street - a mere stroll in Manhattan, of course.

Other Manhatan walks I have loved have involved walking most of the length
of 5th Avenue.

>I definitely go into <alert> mode in certain areas at certain times in
>the Quarter (unrelated to crowds -- or actually related to sparsity of
>crowds -- crowds are safer)

Not on New Year's Eve! The crowds that night were periodically ramming
people into buildings and barricades with great force.

Bethany

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steph:
= =
= = Oh, this is more fun than talking about ear wax!  Great big gobs of ear wax.
= =
= = B
=
= Oh, I always find it amazing.  That an naval lint!

That's what you call it when the owner is in the Marines!

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=
= Oh, this is more fun than talking about ear wax!  Great big gobs of ear wax.
=
= B

Oh, I always find it amazing.  That an naval lint!

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At 07:34 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> > At 07:06 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
> >>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> >> > Great big gobs of ear wax.
> >>
> >>Greasy grimy gopher guts.
>
> > Nobody likes me. Everybody hates me.
>
>I know that Paul loves me.
>
>You, however, should go eat worms!:)
>
>Karen

You stole my line!

Happy New Year, Karen.  Hope 2004 brings lots of job offers your way.

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
> At 07:06 PM 12/31/2003 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>>On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Betty wrote:
>> > Great big gobs of ear wax.
>>
>>Greasy grimy gopher guts.

> Nobody likes me. Everybody hates me.

I know that Paul loves me.

You, however, should go eat worms!:)

Karen

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At 08:32 PM 12/30/2003 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>Did you show us this house?
>
>I think so.  It's here:
>
>http://www.starkvillerealestate.com/listings_residential/3bedroom/304gilles
>pie/index.html

It looks great!  I love porches and you will have two!!

Betty

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> She's already signed up with another doctor, but there's a ton of
> paperwork to go through, and guess who is going to have to do it.
> I'd like to make the person who decided to make the change
> (whether the insurance or the clinics) go through all the paperwork
> involved.

With every pen stroke, repeat: "I am lucky to have health insurance".

Karen

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, bonniev wrote:
> Anyway, it talks in there about two-handed colorwork.  I once knew how to
> do that.  So I re-taught myself.

I think that's key.

> I've even gotten so good that when knitting a row with three colors
> I can hold two colors in my left hand and carry the dominant color
> with my right.

Dang!  You rule! I do know the theory, but I don't ever remember being
proficient at it. (Though I have knit Icelandic sweaters and other
Very Fancy stuff.)

Karen

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--- Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>         Yeah, cuz that new doctor, they're trying to
> rip off Evelyn's
> mom of her *millions and millions* of dollars
> through the
> devious means of eliciting egregiously extraneous
> information.  Oh, those devils!


Rita, what do you want to be when you grow up?

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote:
> This can only mean duplication.  She will
> have to sign a release to secure her records, fill out
> "new Patient information" (1 - 3 pages at most),

I've had to fill out history forms that were 10 pages long. 1-3 pages
would be really short!

Karen

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At 10:18 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>I was probably wearing the more conservative clothing on this page:
><http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/PersonalPage/cloatdesk11221976.jpg>
>
>clo

I like this photo a lot!  You looked really cool smoking.

Betty

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Lynne Weber wrote:
>>After a week or so I will presumably throw away the
>>ones in the
>>refrigerator.  I hate that they didn't have any tiny
>>cans of BEPs.
>>Ditto turnip greens.  I had to buy big cans of both.
>
> This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.  I
> must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw them
> out until they are inedible.  It defies reason, but I
> can't break the habit.

Usually I don't buy the kind of food that will result in unused portions
, so it's not a regular problem.  But in a case like this, it was all I
could do. I had to have bep's and tg's.  The same would have happened if
I had bought bags instead of cans, except that probably I would have
kept the frozen bags longer -- but then I would ultimately have thrown
them out -- after they were caked with frost, and that would have been
more waste since the bags hold more than cans.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> Happy European New Year!

May it bring you many Euros.

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--- Theo Groothof <Dutchessg1@AOL.COM> wrote:
> Couldn't have said it any better! I don't mind
> criticizing, justdon't say I'm
> lying, because I don't lie. Perhaps it's difficult
> for some people to
> believe, but I just don't see any future in it.
> You're gonna be caught sooner or
> later anyway, and then you look like a fool. OK?

Perception is everything Theo.  Here's to your
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In a message dated 1/1/2004 9:37:42 AM, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes:

>This medium has been a God send for many. I was just sitting here thinking
>about the people that I would never have met without it.  Kenn C. Miller
>comes to mind.
>
Yes, I too have met a bunch of nice people through it. And also the needed
organization that are on it come in handy at times.
Theo

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>When has Elaine last checked in?  I've been meaning to ask whether
>anybody has heard from her lately.  Seems like a long time since she
>last said anything on the list.  And what about Sylvia?  She also has
>been gone a long time.        -- Natalie

And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's resolutions.


bonnie

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From: "clyde w. voigtlander" <cwv@GWI.NET>
> I wonder if some don't bring a sense of fearfulness with them to
> NYC/Manhattan.  It <is> big and busy and a bit strange to
> outsideres and
> not like very many other places in this country.  There is also a
> directness, which might be interpreted as aggressiveness, that is
> not all
> that common elsewhere.

There are also many who practice <avoidance> -- some people just don't
want to be talked to all the time. That's what I'm thinking of when Janet
refers to hunkering down. Just leave me alone. It seems to me a natural
reaction to living in such dense population.

Marie

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Lynne Weber wrote:
>>I'm against this.  How would these people feel if a
>>bunch of possums
>>grabbed one of them and put it through such an
>>antic?
>
> Is it any worse than Punxatawny Phil and his brethren?

Yes, I think so.  The groundhogs aren't captured and forced to do
anything, are they?  Isn't it just a matter of watching to see whether
they come out of their holes on Feb. 2?  That poor possum was captured
and messed with.  There is much worse animal abuse, I realize, but that
doesn't make it ok to scare a possum like that, imho.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, bonniev wrote:

>And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's
resolutions.

I am going to take the advice of yesterday's WSJ and make resolutions for
other people to keep.

Bethany

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> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=2197694
>
> (Yesterday's u/s)

Thanks, Ma-rie!

Looks like a moon landing.  This is gonna be fun.

Ann

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--- bonniev <bonniev@GWI.NET> wrote:
> >When has Elaine last checked in?  I've been meaning
> to ask whether
> >anybody has heard from her lately.  Seems like a
> long time since she
> >last said anything on the list.  And what about
> Sylvia?  She also has
> >been gone a long time.        -- Natalie
>
> And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us
> her New Year's resolutions.

What about Dan Lester?

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From: Terry Wild <twild@uri.edu>
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> Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>
>> It may look neat, but our house is really dusty, and I am <pining> for
>> more cupboards with doors, to keep things clean!
>
> That was my thought when I read what Karen said.  I started to mention
> it, but then didn't since it was pretty obvious that one would simply
> have to rinse off plates and glasses before using them -- some of the
> time anyway, not necessarily every time.  Because I like open windows,
> dust would be a big problem if I had open cabinets.
>
> --
>   -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


We have nary a cupboard.  An open pantry sports the goods.  I'd always
loved my grandmother's.  The only difference, her's had a door, ours
doesn't, so some of the lesser used stuff does need to be rinsed on
occasion.

I love being able to see everything at once.

Terry

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Lynne Weber wrote:

> --- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> I
>
>>guess my point is
>>that red flags might be in order if the process
>>seems too complicated --
>>that something may be amiss.
>>
>
>
> Natalie is correct there should not be wads of
> paperwork.  This can only mean duplication.  She will
> have to sign a release to secure her records, fill out
> "new Patient information" (1 - 3 pages at most), a
> HIPPA agreement, and provide copies of all insurance
> cards.  Anything else is requested is superfluous
> information, duplication, triplication, etc.  That's
> what copiers and Faxes are for.  Just take it one page
> at a time, ascertain what info is wanted, and if it
> doesn't make sense, start a pile of paperwork for the
> doctor(s), clinics, and inform them you have already
> provided the info on such-and-such form.  If there's
> that much paperwork involved, it sounds fishy.


        Yeah, cuz that new doctor, they're trying to rip off Evelyn's
mom of her *millions and millions* of dollars through the
devious means of eliciting egregiously extraneous
information.  Oh, those devils!



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita


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bonniev wrote:

> I'm amazed that you were able to enjoy New York City in the midst of your
> illness.  I barely made it through company for Christmas dinner.  This
> morning was the first time I left the house in seven days and that was just
> to go to town for a knitting needle.  I guess I'm a wimp.

I think there's a huge difference between our maladies.  They're both a
drag but in very different ways.  Given the <quiet life> I had been
leading for a couple of weeks before my trip, I was surprised that my
body managed the enormous amount of walking/climbing I did in NYC.  I
was sore, which made me realize how how of shape I was, but that was the
only ill effect.  My problem is the feeling of the stopped-up ears and
not being able to hear well.  I quit taking the congestion medicine
Saturday morning but kept on with the cough syrup until I got home
Monday.  Yesterday was the last day for the medicine Karen found Very
Evil.  Now it's just a matter of waiting for the ear gunk to disappear.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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--- Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Theo Groothof wrote:
> > In a message dated 1/1/2004 3:19:07 PM,
> lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:
>
> >>This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.
> I
> >>must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw
> them
> >>out until they are inedible.  It defies reason,
> but I
> >>can't break the habit.
> >>
> > It's probably because of the way you were brought
> up. I cannot stand to waste
> > anything either, whether it's food or electricity!
>
> But Lynne DOES waste the food! She just keeps it
> till it rots.

But my intentions are laudatory.  And please don't
tell me about the road to...

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 5:53:08 PM Central Standard Time,
lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM writes:
<<
Right.  Does he seem to be alright physically?
>>

He's about the same as always; he's had problems
with other dogs but not with people, not until now.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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What a nice place (but the fancy fonts will probably turn into garbage
-- will try it and see what happens):

<http://www.themermaidnyc.com/>
very much for taking the time to fill out your comment card during your
recent visit to *THE MERMAID INN* <http://www.themermaidnyc.com/>. Your
opinions and suggestions provide invaluable insight into how we can
continuously improve upon both our service and cuisine.


*Dear Natalie,*
Thank you very much for your kind words about our restaurant. I am so
happy to hear that you enjoyed a wonderful meal with us. We work very
hard to provide excellent service, and it is great to know that it is
appreciated. Please do come again soon.

*-  *   *Benjamin Pressman*

        *DAYTIME MANAGER*

<http://www.theharrison.com/bridgepage>
If you would like more information about The Harrison, The Red Cat or
The Mermaid Inn, *please visit our website here.*
<http://www.theharrison.com/bridgepage>


--

 -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

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Slightly tipsy . . as I should be.
After all, it's now 2004.
Son of a gun.

Happy New Year!

:-)

             - D. M.

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> At 10:18 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> >I was probably wearing the more conservative clothing on this page:
http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/PersonalPage/cloatdesk11221976.jpg

> I like this photo a lot!  You looked really cool smoking.

Sort of looks like Norah Jones.

Marie

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> Best wishes for health and happiness to you all.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Terry
>

Yes, indeed.  A big Happy New year to all Wordslers,
wherever you are.

We will be with friends, several couples who've seen
many new years in together . . . drinks with snacks and
probably football . . buffet supper, good wines, good
conversation . . maybe games later (Mexican Train?)
We used to go dancing, etc., but these days some have
a hard time even staying awake until 12.  I never seem to
have that problem, being a perpetual night person.

             - D. M.

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> Right. And it is the rage around here - an insane one. I shall not
> succumb.

Nor shall I. My ideal would be cherry cabinets with some sleek stainless
steel hardware, or nice oak Craftsman-y type somethings. If I wanted
cabinets without doors, I'd put up shelves.

--Adam

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> What about indirect bus service?  About what do you think a fortune is
> re cab?

There is bus service along Route 5, but it is infrequent. The train station
is a block from the bus station downtown. I'd say a cab ride would be $20.

I'd be happy to transport you from the train station.

--Adam

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> And now I'm off. Happy New Year from the strangely thawed
> northeast!

I meant to mention yesterday that Syracuse was one of the featured
destinations on Northwest's website this week:

*********
This 19th-Century salt industry town by the Erie Canal has dusted itself
off, allowing its brightest gems to really shine.
*********
from:
http://cybersavers.lastminute-packages.com/detail.html?in_origination_key=1281&in_package_key=5034265&in_emailclick=offbeat

or

http://tinyurl.com/2unpw

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 11:34 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, Theo Groothof wrote:
>Talking on the phone is hard for me because it's nerve deafness; iow I can
>hear sounds when you speak up, but not the meaning of the words when you speak
>fast. That's why I like this medium a lot!
>Theo

This medium has been a God send for many. I was just sitting here thinking
about the people that I would never have met without it.  Kenn C. Miller
comes to mind.

Betty

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Adam Hartfield wrote:
> Nor shall I. My ideal would be cherry cabinets with some sleek stainless
> steel hardware, or nice oak Craftsman-y type somethings. If I wanted
> cabinets without doors, I'd put up shelves.

Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.

Karen

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.

Ask Natalie - she decreed that a bookcase is not a bookcase unles it has a
door on it.

Bethany, who is trying to decide exactly where to put all her doorless
bookcases - and whether to refinish them one more time

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In a message dated 1/1/2004 6:19:23 PM Central Standard Time,
rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes:
<<
And Methadone Phil.
>>

What's happened with MacPhil?  He popped up recently; where has HE
gone?

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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Karen Kay wrote:
> and getting reservations for 7 *anywhere* is tough.

Have Marie call The Mermaid.  And we never even revealed that we had an
<inside connection>.  They were nice to us anyway.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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> And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's
resolutions.

I just got phone-email from her. They're out of town and are en route back
home.

--Adam

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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, steph wrote:
> Well, duh.  If you now know from experience that it's a problem,
> why don't you all do a little planning?

> signed, miss smartypants

Duh, we do. A little.:) But with 7 people who have lives, timing is
usually not determinable till right before.

Did I talk about my trip? 8 hours stuck in O'Hare. I felt like Charlie
on the MTA. Planes went, but none of them had me on it. We went
through planes A to G. It's one of the least fun trips I've
had--though I did run into someone I knew in O'Hare.

Karen

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At 04:39 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, Janet Hardy wrote:
>I'm getting to where I'm starting to wear tennis shoes (which I still,
>old-fashioned girl that I am, tend to call sneakers) for traveling as well,
>simply so I won't have to take them off for metal detectors -- but I cringe.
>I still feel that getting dressed nicely for air travel is the right thing
>to do.
>
>Janet

I guess it depends upon the airport. I saw people having to take their
sneakers off. I even had to take my Teva's off.

Betty

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Karen Kay:
= On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
= > Karen Kay wrote:
= >> and getting reservations for 7 *anywhere* is tough.
=
= > Have Marie call The Mermaid.  And we never even revealed that we had an
= > <inside connection>.  They were nice to us anyway.
=
= Is there a Chicago branch? In any case, we often don't know where
= we're going till just before we leave the hotel.
=
= Karen

Well, duh.  If you now know from experience that it's a problem,
why don't you all do a little planning?

signed, miss smartypants

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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 19:17:49 EST, Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:

>In a message dated 1/1/2004 4:43:49 PM Central Standard Time,
>clostran@SYR.EDU writes:
><<
>Now we are back at the point where you need to enroll in an owner-training
>class
>>>
>
>I know, but how to get him there?
>
>Evelyn Duncan
>EDuncan368@aol.com
>I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

Call the dog obedience programs that are closest, and explain your
situation. They may have solutions handy, or be able to think of something
with you.

clo

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> But at least you can see what you have.

And you can do that too with cabinets, by opening the doors. :)

You probably don't store most of your cooking vessels on top of your
cabinets. I do, so I can see half of what I have anyway.

--Adam

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Karen Kay:
= On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, steph wrote:
= > Cabinets without doors suck.  They collect dust.  We have our
= > glassware in one, and periodically I have to pull everything out
= > of it to dust the bottom of the shelves.
=
=  All my stuff is in cabinets with doors, but I still have to do this
=  from time to time.
=
= Karen

Ok.  If I did it whenever dust was visible, then periodically
would be about every four weeks.  My kitchen cabinets with doors
have white shelves and the open ones are grey, so who knows how
often the white shelves need dusting!

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Spencer likes black-eyed peas.  I gave him only a couple -- just enough
to assure a happy 2004 -- but he wanted more.  What I bet he would've
really loved would've been some of the pot liquor on cornbread.  But I
don't want to get him into people food and make him into a
botherer/beggar.
--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Lynne Weber wrote:

> But that's exactly what happens to the groundhogs,
> plus, they are awoken just to shed their shadows.  The
> only difference is, the possum makes a descent.  If
> you've ever seen the Punuxatawney keepers go after
> Phil, you would know he's no happy hog.

Ugh.  I have never paid any attention to Phil since he lives too far
away for me to have much confidence in the relationship between his
experiences and my weather.  I'm much more interested in what
Pelahatchie Pete sees, but I've never been aware that he was
<manhandled>.  I thought maybe he just sauntered out of his hole
somewhere near Pelahatchie.  I'll have to start paying more attention.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:37:52 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:

>Rashmi Murthy wrote:
>
>> New York was great. Interesting that Janet and the dudes found the city
>> intimidating. To me the city gave off major warm fuzzies all year,
>
>I didn't read what she said as their having found it intimidating in any
>way.  I thought she was talking about the impression of what the New
>Yorkers themselves (plus the tourists mixed among them, of course) felt.
>
>> noticed lots and lots of Yeerpeens but my impression was of fewer
>> South Asians than in previous years. Fewer Japanese groups too.
>
>The Wellington was full of Japanese, as apparently it always is.  Lots
>of Yeerpeens there also, but more Japanese than any other group, I'd
>say.  And that reminds me again of my shoe-studying when traveling.  I
>still believe it is a myth that USAers are most likely to wear tennis
>shoes.  The accents I hear from voices of tennis-shoe-wearing travelers
>in airports and elsewhere suggest quite the contrary to me.

I'm getting to where I'm starting to wear tennis shoes (which I still,
old-fashioned girl that I am, tend to call sneakers) for traveling as well,
simply so I won't have to take them off for metal detectors -- but I cringe.
I still feel that getting dressed nicely for air travel is the right thing
to do.

Janet

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bonniev wrote:

>> When has Elaine last checked in?  I've been meaning to ask whether
>> anybody has heard from her lately.  Seems like a long time since she
>> last said anything on the list.  And what about Sylvia?  She also has
>> been gone a long time.        -- Natalie
>
>
> And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's
> resolutions.


        And Methadone Phil.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
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Lynne Weber wrote:

> --- Rita Chapman <rouvalis@SWBELL.NET> wrote:
>
>>        Yeah, cuz that new doctor, they're trying to
>>rip off Evelyn's
>>mom of her *millions and millions* of dollars
>>through the
>>devious means of eliciting egregiously extraneous
>>information.  Oh, those devils!
>>
>
>
> Rita, what do you want to be when you grow up?


        You don't think I'm a good cynic now?

        I mean, really.   Evelyn complains about paperwork and you
guys blow it up into full-fledged fraud without a shred of
evidence.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
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On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Karen Kay wrote:
>> and getting reservations for 7 *anywhere* is tough.

> Have Marie call The Mermaid.  And we never even revealed that we had an
> <inside connection>.  They were nice to us anyway.

Is there a Chicago branch? In any case, we often don't know where
we're going till just before we leave the hotel.

Karen

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At 08:23 AM 12/31/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:22:09 -0800, Betty <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
>
> >At 10:18 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> >>I was probably wearing the more conservative clothing on this page:
> >><http://web.syr.edu/~clostran/PersonalPage/cloatdesk11221976.jpg>
> >>
> >>clo
> >
> >I like this photo a lot!  You looked really cool smoking.
> >
> >Betty
>
>LOL! Yes, I miss smoking. Someday I'll learn to resize jpgs, which
>will make it much more interesting.

I still miss the act of smoking.

Betty

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Rita Leonard wrote:

> My sister loves these things.  I would advise you to shop around
> though.  The prices given on the page above are high.
> If you have a Kohl's in your area, you can almost always get them for
> 50% off...sometimes even 60%.  I picked up several for Christmas gifts
> for $10.00 at Kohl's.

No Kohl's -- my knowledge of Kohl's is solely Rita-based -- as in her
working there xmas before last(?).  But I don't really need
ear-protection now -- unless I suddenly decide to go somewhere cold
again.  Actually, it is just as cold here many days as it was in NYC
that cold day (only one of the days I was there was what I would call
cold -- and the problem that day was mainly the wind).  But I'm not out
wandering the streets here as I was there.  I almost never use a coat
here because I'm not out in the elements for long enough periods of time
to be worth the hassle.

I may go to Paris sometime this winter, though.  I think I mentioned
before that a good friend of mine has rented an apartment there for the
year -- from last Nov. 1 to next Nov. 1.  She wants company.  She told
me in e-mail not long ago that I should come and stay a *couple of
months*.  That I am most definitely not going to do.  Way too much
hassle/expense re dog-care, house-care, etc.  But I might go for a week.
  Or what I should really do is go spend a few days there, then take a
train down to visit my uncle in Spain for a few days, then back to Paris
for a few days, then home.  In spite of the sucky exchange rate, the
trip would be inexpensive since ff miles would pay for the plane fare
and I would have free lodging -- but would of course take my friend out
for some nice meals as a thank-you for the lodging.  Anyway, I'm
pondering the when of this trip.  I may wait until warmer weather,
though she'll probably have more visitors lined up for times like spring
break and May.  Her husband pops in and out but doesn't stay long.  And
she assured me that there's room for all three of us there.  I know both
of them quite well and would be comfortable with them in the smallish
space.  (They're the friends I stayed with in Lynchburg on my way to
Acadiafest last summer.)

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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I started the day reading some editorial on
the relativity of time, and how we continue
to be puzzled by the meaning of time, etc.

Then tonight I watched a few minutes of
Biography . . on James Dean . . and realized
if he were alive he would be 73.  That made
me sit and figure that if Jack Kennedy were
here he would be 86.  These men died young
and stayed young forever.  

                - D. M.

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Rita Chapman wrote:

>        My golden retriever, Shawn, would occasionally taking a
> dislike to a person passing by.  I always trusted his judgment.

When I said Spencer was shy or friendly, not ever aggressive, toward
people, I meant in situations other than his being inside his fence or
house and their being outside.  He barks quite fiercely when people
start toward our house.  When I invite these threatening strangers in,
however, he immediately changes, wagging shyly.

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Adam Hartfield wrote:

> I'd be happy to transport you from the train station.

Thanks.  I'm not sure I'm going to train to SB.  It was just something
that was interesting to think about.  I will ponder further.

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Karen Kay wrote:

> Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.

How do they differ?

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  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

>>Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.
>
> Ask Natalie - she decreed that a bookcase is not a bookcase unles it has a
> door on it.

Ask me what?  I just asked Karen how they differ.  My kitchen cupboards
are what I would call recessed shelves with doors.

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Karen Kay wrote:

> > Hee. Really, what is the point of cabinets without doors? Stuff gets dusty.
>
> But at least you can see what you have.

I like glass doors.  No dust, yet you can see what you have.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>>>Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.
>>
>> Ask Natalie - she decreed that a bookcase is not a bookcase unles it has a
>> door on it.
>
>Ask me what?  I just asked Karen how they differ.  My kitchen cupboards
>are what I would call recessed shelves with doors.

New category!

Bethany

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> > Hee. Really, what is the point of cabinets without doors? Stuff gets dusty.
>>
>> But at least you can see what you have.
>
>I like glass doors.  No dust, yet you can see what you have.

Most of the time I do not want to see boxes of rice, cans of vegetables,
etc.

But I do like the glass doors and glass shelves in my wet bar, which I
have recently begun stocking. I keep glasses on those shelves.

Bethany

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Why I do not drive on black ice days:

>In one terrifying moment, which now is forever frozen in my mind, we
realized the trailer had bounced off a curb, flipped, and broken free of
the truck. It lay on its left side some distance away from us. From that
perspective, it hardly looked like a horse trailer. As we leapt from the
truck, I remember papers flying everywhere. We slipped and skidded on
ice to the wrecked trailer, dreading to see its occupants. I heard a moan
from a horse. I grabbed my cell phone which has GPS and punched 911. I
hit ÜsendÝ as Doc and I made it to the rear of the trailer. What I saw
gave me no time to speak; I threw the phone in my pocket and forgot about
it.

It was totally disorienting to look inside. Nothing was where it should
have been. Forty-one had turned a complete flip inside the trailer, hoof
prints marked the ceiling where borium pierced steel. His head was still
tied by his mostly broken halter, his neck stretched at a horrible angle.
His front legs were over the center partition which had fallen onto
Henry. His rear legs were entwisted in the strong nylon surcingles of his
.... >

Two friends were taking their two horses to a hunt - fortunately, with
the help of several people who stopped (including one who had a hacksaw),
both horses were removed safely - injuries were superficial. The riders
managed to keep the horses calm by talking to them while the sawing was
going on.

Bethany

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Thanks, I think they look like chickens.

Marie

----- Original Message -----
From: Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2004 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: For Ann Borkin

> ASCHER MARIE wrote:
>
> > http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=2197694
>
> They're beautiful!!
>
> --
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)
>

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From: Lynne Weber <lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM>
> This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.  I
> must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw them
> out until they are inedible.  It defies reason, but I
> can't break the habit.

And in doing so I often use up a perfectly good storage bag which is then wasted.

Marie

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From: Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> On Thursday, January 01, 2004, Ann Borkin wrote:
> >> http://marieascher.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=2197694
> >>
> >> (Yesterday's u/s)
>
> > Thanks, Ma-rie!
>
> > Looks like a moon landing.  This is gonna be fun.
>
> It looks Very Crowded in there!

See the blob off to the right? That was probably at one time a third. We don't
know for sure, and I ain't mourning.

Marie

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Adam Hartfield:
= > And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's
= resolutions.
=
= I just got phone-email from her. They're out of town and are en route back
= home.
=
= --Adam

What does this mean?  Did she sms you, or does your phone have an
email address?

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From: Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM>
> > Hee. Really, what is the point of cabinets without doors? Stuff
> gets dusty.
>
> But at least you can see what you have.

You don't know what you have?

What I need are new pantry doors. My pantry is about three feet deep and six feet wide and has bifold louvered doors. Recently they have decided to stop going into their track. And since they are but ugly anyway, I want new ones, but I don't know where to look. Any suggestions?

I also want someone to redo the shelving in there. The current arrangement of shelves is really stupid.

Marie

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Marie Ascher:
= From: Lynne Weber <lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM>
= > This describes my type of thriftiness perfectly.  I
= > must save small gobs of stuff and REFUSE to throw them
= > out until they are inedible.  It defies reason, but I
= > can't break the habit.
=
= And in doing so I often use up a perfectly good storage bag which is then wasted.
=
= Marie

Well, the solution to that is not to throw away the storage bag.
We reuse our gallon bags, and I swear we must have some that are
ten years old by now.  That and I've got an ok set of plastic
storage containers.  I'm particularly fond of the latest addition
to that collection - half cup size.  Perfect for the last odd
bits of stuff.  But then, I live with mr.-minight-snack-of-leftovers
so it also tends to get eaten.

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=
= What I need are new pantry doors. My pantry is about three feet deep and six feet wide and has bifold louvered doors. Recently they have decided to stop going into their track. And since they are but ugly anyway, I want new ones, but I don't know where to look. Any suggestions?
=

That's a typical Home Depot kind of thing, no?

= I also want someone to redo the shelving in there. The current arrangement of shelves is really stupid.
=
= Marie

I once redid the inside of a closet with rails and adjustable
brackets.  But three feet is pretty deep for something like that.

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Karen Kay wrote:

>> Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.

> How do they differ?

The shelves in doorless cupboards are recessed.

Karen

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>>> > Hee. Really, what is the point of cabinets without doors? Stuff gets dusty.
>>>
>>> But at least you can see what you have.
>>
>>I like glass doors.  No dust, yet you can see what you have.

> Most of the time I do not want to see boxes of rice, cans of vegetables,
> etc.

No one suggested removing the pantry door.

> But I do like the glass doors and glass shelves in my wet bar, which I
> have recently begun stocking. I keep glasses on those shelves.

Yes.

Karen

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Marie Ascher wrote:
> See the blob off to the right? That was probably at one time a third. We don't
> know for sure, and I ain't mourning.

My friend Susan has a framed x-ray of her twins. One was stillborn,
and you can kind of see in the x-ray that it's not lying right--it's
lower and much, much smaller. (This was, of course, in the old days.
My brothers got x-rayed, too, and I remember my Mom's relief that
there were only two.)

Karen

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Marie Ascher wrote:
> You don't know what you have?

I don't use all of what I have all the time, so I forget. Some things
I no longer have, and I've acquired new things that I forget about.

> What I need are new pantry doors. My pantry is about three feet deep
> and six feet wide and has bifold louvered doors. Recently they have
> decided to stop going into their track. And since they are but ugly
> anyway, I want new ones, but I don't know where to look. Any
> suggestions?

Home Depot or Lowe's. I bet they have a zillion doors.

> I also want someone to redo the shelving in there. The current
> arrangement of shelves is really stupid.

Don't you hate that?!

Karen

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At 08:53 AM 1/2/2004 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>On Friday, January 02, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> > Karen Kay wrote:
>
> >> Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.
>
> > How do they differ?
>
>The shelves in doorless cupboards are recessed.

As are ours---otherwise, the doors wouldn't close.

cwv

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 08:53 AM 1/2/2004 -0600, Karen Kay wrote:
>>On Friday, January 02, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>> > Karen Kay wrote:
>>
>> >> Shelves and doorless cupboards aren't the same.
>>
>> > How do they differ?
>>
>>The shelves in doorless cupboards are recessed.

> As are ours---otherwise, the doors wouldn't close.

Er, right. But most shelving I've seen isn't recessed.

Karen

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If I don't buy that other house (which I'm probably not because I have
ascertained that the reason the previous sale didn't go through was that
the seller is asking more than the appraised value, which makes me
wary), I want these fixtures in my bathroom:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3166966359&category=42025

The problem is that I would have to pick them up in Seattle.  That would
mean renting a truck, I guess.  Hmm.  I could fly one-way to Seattle,
rent a U-Haul truck, and bring the things home.  The color is perfect
for my bathroom -- at least the color of the sinks, which the seller
says is the real color, as opposed to the other pictures, which aren't
the real color.

But Seattle is a bit far away.  If only they were somewhere like
Memphis.  Or anywhere in the eastern half of the country.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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> > I also want someone to redo the shelving in there. The current
> > arrangement of shelves is really stupid.
>
> Don't you hate that?!
>
> Karen

The main problem is that there are only two shelves with a huge gap in between
which could be used for more shelves. I want to map out what's in there and
have someone custom build shelving. Right now it's a huge mess with everything sort of piled in.

In addition to food storage, we use this area for our newspaper recycling, extra
large pots, vases, and on the other side, cleaning supplies, brooms, mops, etc. and Laszlo's stuff.

*uc* often leaves the doors wide open and it's just atrocious to look at.

Marie

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> I once redid the inside of a closet with rails and adjustable
> brackets.  But three feet is pretty deep for something like that.

The shelving is about 18 inches deep. The other 18 inches (probably more
like a foot) is space in front of the shelves. Consider it a "walk-in".

Marie

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>If I don't buy that other house (which I'm probably not because I have
>ascertained that the reason the previous sale didn't go through was that
>the seller is asking more than the appraised value, which makes me

Find out why he is asking more. Offer what you know to be a fair price -
that you can afford. I know from recent personal experience that is it
possible to purchase for many thousands of dollars less than an asking
price.

Bethany

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        I suggest doors that can be closed and locked somehow.  I
suggest doing it within a year.

Marie Ascher wrote:

>>>I also want someone to redo the shelving in there. The current
>>>arrangement of shelves is really stupid.
>>>
>>Don't you hate that?!
>>
>>Karen
>>
>
> The main problem is that there are only two shelves with a huge gap in between
> which could be used for more shelves. I want to map out what's in there and
> have someone custom build shelving. Right now it's a huge mess with everything sort of piled in.
>
> In addition to food storage, we use this area for our newspaper recycling, extra
> large pots, vases, and on the other side, cleaning supplies, brooms, mops, etc. and Laszlo's stuff.
>
> *uc* often leaves the doors wide open and it's just atrocious to look at.
>
> Marie
>
>


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        >When has Elaine last checked in?  I've been meaning to ask whether
        >anybody has heard from her lately.  Seems like a long time since she
        >last said anything on the list.  And what about Sylvia?  She also has
        >been gone a long time.        -- Natalie

        And Anne Harwell Toal.  She used to always tell us her New Year's resolutions.

I haven't heard her mention one yet although he did comment on something
in the NYT about putting all your passwords in one place.  I'm sure she'll
tell you when she wakes up.  We're currently in post-vacation recovery
mode and Anne is sleeping like a baby right now.

My New Year resolution is to *never* *ever* spend another penny that
goes into the hands of D*sn*y.  I'd say more but 1) I just want to forget
the whole ghastly experience; and 2) their lawyers trawl the net and
I'm still too pissed off by it all to be sufficiently careful in what I
say if I were to post a WHTMIDW.  I think I'll leave the WHTM to Anne.

G

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> But Seattle is a bit far away.  If only they were
> somewhere like
> Memphis.  Or anywhere in the eastern half of the
> country.


Don't they ship?

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Find out why he is asking more. Offer what you know to be a fair price -
> that you can afford. I know from recent personal experience that is it
> possible to purchase for many thousands of dollars less than an asking
> price.

Obviously people purchase for many thousands of dollars less than the
asking price.  That's the norm (in ordinary markets, that is --
excluding places like California).

There are various reasons people ask more than a house is worth:
they've put too much into the house and don't want to lose their money;
they are idealistic and perhaps sentimental about the house; they figure
they're better off renting it than selling it for less; they hope that
the market will get the price up some day to something that would make
them happier.

I could buy the house for the asking price.  That would not be a
financial problem.  But I do not want to pay more than a house is worth
because I think that is unwise.  I want to know that if I suddenly
decided to sell it, I could get my money back.  My current house is
borderline in that respect since I bought it at a time when there
weren't many appealing houses for sale, which means I was willing to pay
more and that the seller didn't need to come down as far.  He and I
quickly <cut to the quick> in the bargaining since we both knew the
routine -- knew that, at least around here, the ending point is usually
half way between the asking price and the first offer (assuming the
first offer is reasonable).  I made the offer, we both knew what the
next logical steps would be in the bargaining game, and he said, "Look,
why don't we skip all that and just hit the middle point right now."  I
said, "That suits me fine."  And that was that.  Anyway, my point is
that a house for sale for above its appraised value raises questions in
my mind about financial wisdom, especially since appraisers usually go
with the flow and appraise for the contract price or a bit above it.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Marie Ascher wrote:
> The main problem is that there are only two shelves with a huge gap
> in between which could be used for more shelves. I want to map out
> what's in there and have someone custom build shelving. Right now
> it's a huge mess with everything sort of piled in.

I bought things at Walmart--horizontal and vertical dividers, baskets,
etc., to make it more organized. (A trick learned from my little
sister.)

The absolute worst, IMHO, is my situation:  my laundry room has
shelves that are too short for anything laundry related. The pantry is
annoying because the shelves are very short, so I have to be careful
about what cans can go on top of each other, but at least things will
go in there. I keep paper bags and wine on the floor.

Karen

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Lynne Weber wrote:

> Don't they ship?

No.  The seller said it was ok if the buyer wanted to arrange shipping
-- that they'd be glad to meet a hired shipper in their basement for
outgoing.  But they themselves aren't going to fool with it.  It's
pick-up only from their pov.

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Well, lo and behold.  Graham lives!

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Any sightings lately?  Any clue as to his whereabouts?

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Rita Chapman wrote:
> Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> Well, lo and behold.  Graham lives!
>>


>         And the idea of him at Disney has considerably brightened my
> morning.  What an unlikely thing.  How hilarious.

I wonder if he wore the purple outfit.

Karen

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Well, lo and behold.  Graham lives!
>


        And the idea of him at Disney has considerably brightened my
morning.  What an unlikely thing.  How hilarious.




--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita


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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>There are various reasons people ask more than a house is worth:
>they've put too much into the house and don't want to lose their money;
>they are idealistic and perhaps sentimental about the house; they figure
>they're better off renting it than selling it for less; they hope that
>the market will get the price up some day to something that would make
>them happier.

Or they just want to make money!

>I could buy the house for the asking price.  That would not be a
>financial problem.  But I do not want to pay more than a house is worth
>because I think that is unwise.  I want to know that if I suddenly

Sure. Decide how much it is worth to you and offer a few thousand less
than that. I would not worry about any hypothetical "routine" if I were
you.

Bethany

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Marie Ascher:
= > I once redid the inside of a closet with rails and adjustable
= > brackets.  But three feet is pretty deep for something like that.
=
= The shelving is about 18 inches deep. The other 18 inches (probably more
= like a foot) is space in front of the shelves. Consider it a "walk-in".
=
= Marie

Well, then, you could do it.  I hate projects like this, and I
managed to redo my closet in an afternoon.  My local DIY store is
full of solutions for this kind of thing, so if you don't like
rails and brackets, there's plasticoated wire shelves, and all
kinds of other closet internal thingys.

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, steph wrote:
> Well, then, you could do it.  I hate projects like this, and I
> managed to redo my closet in an afternoon.  My local DIY store is
> full of solutions for this kind of thing, so if you don't like
> rails and brackets, there's plasticoated wire shelves, and all
> kinds of other closet internal thingys.

I often look at The Container Store for ideas, and then go to Walmart
to implement them. If they have what you want, you save about half.

Karen

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Lynne Weber wrote:

> Any sightings lately?  Any clue as to his whereabouts?

No.  The campus has been deserted for the past couple of weeks.  It will
be interesting to see whether he resurfaces when the students do.

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Rita Chapman wrote:

>        And the idea of him at Disney has considerably brightened my
> morning.  What an unlikely thing.  How hilarious.

Yes.  I wondered about that also.  It doesn't strike me as likely scene
for either of the Toals.

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>There are various reasons people ask more than a house is worth:
>>they've put too much into the house and don't want to lose their money;
>>they are idealistic and perhaps sentimental about the house; they figure
>>they're better off renting it than selling it for less; they hope that
>>the market will get the price up some day to something that would make
>>them happier.
>
> Or they just want to make money!

I included that above under "idealistic" -- they think they can get
somebody to pay more than it's worth.

>>I could buy the house for the asking price.  That would not be a
>>financial problem.  But I do not want to pay more than a house is worth
>>because I think that is unwise.  I want to know that if I suddenly
>
> Sure. Decide how much it is worth to you and offer a few thousand less
> than that. I would not worry about any hypothetical "routine" if I were
> you.

? I'm not worried about any hypothetical "routine."  I'm somehow amused
at your advice.  It's not as if I've never bought and sold houses
before.  How much the house is worth to me, however, depends upon how
much it is worth on the market and is likely to be worth in the future.
  I consider houses investments.  Re routines, one can quit the game any
time.  I did that with that house on Lookout Mountain.  When I made my
first offer, I had already decided it was going to be my only offer.  So
when the counter-offer came, I just said no, took my earnest money back,
and that was that.

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>? I'm not worried about any hypothetical "routine."  I'm somehow amused
>at your advice.  It's not as if I've never bought and sold houses
>before.  How much the house is worth to me, however, depends upon how
>much it is worth on the market and is likely to be worth in the future.
>  I consider houses investments.    -- Natalie

Well, Natalie, you can't blame us for being slightly confused.  You did
start this discussion by saying that it didn't matter to you at all what
either the new house or your present house was priced at, as long as you
ended up with a $10,000 credit when the deal was done.  You have now
changed your tune.  The price of the house as compared to its estimated
value seems to matter to you after all.


bonnie

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FTR, I think every single house in my area sells for well above assessed value.

Marie

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bonniev wrote:
>> ? I'm not worried about any hypothetical "routine."  I'm somehow amused
>> at your advice.  It's not as if I've never bought and sold houses
>> before.  How much the house is worth to me, however, depends upon how
>> much it is worth on the market and is likely to be worth in the future.
>>  I consider houses investments.    -- Natalie
>
>
> Well, Natalie, you can't blame us for being slightly confused.  You did
> start this discussion by saying that it didn't matter to you at all what
> either the new house or your present house was priced at, as long as you
> ended up with a $10,000 credit when the deal was done.  You have now
> changed your tune.  The price of the house as compared to its estimated
> value seems to matter to you after all.

No, I have not changed my tune in the least.  The above is exactly what
I still think -- that I would do it for a $10,000 credit.  The only
thing that has changed is my knowledge of the house for sale -- the fact
that the above isn't going to work (unless, of course, somebody is
willing to pay me a good bit more than my house is worth, in which case
I would of course do it).

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Marie Ascher wrote:

> FTR, I think every single house in my area sells for well above assessed value.

That makes sense.  You do not live in <mainstream USA>.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

 >> Well, Natalie, you can't blame us for being slightly confused.  You did
 >> start this discussion by saying that it didn't matter to you at all what
 >> either the new house or your present house was priced at, as long as you
 >> ended up with a $10,000 credit when the deal was done.  You have now
 >> changed your tune.  The price of the house as compared to its estimated
 >> value seems to matter to you after all.
 >
 >
 > No, I have not changed my tune in the least.  The above is exactly
what I still think -- that I would do it for a $10,000 credit.  The only
thing that has changed is my knowledge of the house for sale -- the fact
that the above isn't going to work (unless, of course, somebody is
willing to pay me a good bit more than my house is worth, in which case
I would of course do it).


I was trying to figure out why you thought I might have changed my tune,
and it occurred to me that maybe you didn't get the point about the
negotiation -- that the real-estate agent said that the seller had been
unwilling to negotiate and that the asking praise was above the
appraised value.  It is totally normal -- routine -- pretty much
universal (here) -- for the appraised value to be lower than the
ORIGINAL asking price.  What is not normal is for anybody to pay the
original asking price.  The appraised value is normally around the
CONTRACT price -- as in what the buyer has agreed to pay for the house.
  That is many thousands of dollars lower than the original list price.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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>I was trying to figure out why you thought I might have changed my tune,
>and it occurred to me that maybe you didn't get the point about the
>negotiation -- that the real-estate agent said that the seller had been
>unwilling to negotiate... ...         -- Natalie

No, that's not what I didn't understand.  When you first said that you
would buy the house as long as the difference was $10,000 in your favor, I
naively thought that you had no particular idea what either your house or
that house would appraise or sell for.  I thought that you didn't much
care.  Now it appears that you knew quite a bit.  You knew what your house
was worth.  You knew what that house was worth. You had assumed the seller
would deal.  You had not pulled the $10,000 out of thin air.  It was a
well-researched figure.  My bad.


bonnie

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Natalie, have you been able to  see the inside of  the house yet?  Maybe if
it doesn't sell, they will eventually lower the price.

Ours was vacant for six months we were told.  We offered $50 more than the
last offer and they took it.

I just heard on the radio that it hailed in San Francisco today!

Betty

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> Natalie, have you been able to  see the inside of  the house yet?
Maybe if
> it doesn't sell, they will eventually lower the price.
>
> Ours was vacant for six months we were told.  We offered $50 more than
the
> last offer and they took it.
>
> I just heard on the radio that it hailed in San Francisco today!
>
> Betty
>

Someone told me they heard Wednesday a snow
warning for Hawaii.  I did not follow up to see
if it was true.

                   - D. M.

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At 04:11 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Doris Markland wrote:
>Someone told me they heard Wednesday a snow
>warning for Hawaii.  I did not follow up to see
>if it was true.
>
>                    - D. M.

Do you have your reservations?

Betty

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bonniev wrote:

> No, that's not what I didn't understand.  When you first said that you
> would buy the house as long as the difference was $10,000 in your favor, I
> naively thought that you had no particular idea what either your house or
> that house would appraise or sell for.  I thought that you didn't much
> care.  Now it appears that you knew quite a bit.  You knew what your house
> was worth.  You knew what that house was worth. You had assumed the seller
> would deal.  You had not pulled the $10,000 out of thin air.  It was a
> well-researched figure.  My bad.

Heavens.  No, I did not pull my deal out of thin air.  I'm not sure that
I would call it a "well-researched figure" in that that suggests doing
lots of figuring and researching at the moment.  But it was certainly a
figure based on my knowledge of house values in general, these houses in
particular, how much I've got in this house, etc.  Because that
knowledge was all sitting in my head already (or close enough -- I did
not try to figure how much I've got in this house to the exact penny,
though I could pull out my folder and do that pretty quickly), it didn't
take any major brain power or effort to come up with the $10,000 deal.

I'm fascinated that you would think I wouldn't have known what I was
doing -- as in known the appropriate figures.  I shudder to think what
my financial status might be if I had lived my life making major
financial decisions that nonchalantly.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty Clark wrote:

> Natalie, have you been able to  see the inside of  the house yet?  Maybe if
> it doesn't sell, they will eventually lower the price.

I'm going to see it at 10:30 tomorrow morning.  Was going to late this
afternoon, but the real-estate agent and I decided tomorrow morning
would be easier since she wouldn't have to fool around with getting the
key from somebody who was showing it at some time this afternoon.  It
doesn't have the usual box thing on its door for some reason, possibly
because it has renters.  She also found that it's rented only through
the end of February, so that isn't a problem.  Anyway, she's going to
eat breakfast at her parents' house tomorrow morning, with her visiting
nieces, and will come over and knock on my door about 10:30, and we'll
go look at the house.  (Her parents are my next-door neighbors.)

> Ours was vacant for six months we were told.  We offered $50 more than the
> last offer and they took it.

I think six months is about the national average, isn't it?

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  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 04:35 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
I think six months is about the national average, isn't it?

I don't have a clue.  Certainly not here in the last few years.

Betty

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Doris Markland wrote:
> Someone told me they heard Wednesday a snow
> warning for Hawaii.  I did not follow up to see
> if it was true.

It snowed in Las Vegas a few days ago, I heard. Here, it's close to
80.

Karen

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 17:19:53 -0600, mene tekel parsin
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>Just back from a LA-MS-AR-OK-TX-AR-LA
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>into Neal Stephenson's latest doorstop
>(and to eat testicles for the first time).
>
>If you like Stephenson, it's *great*.

Which "it"?
clo

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Just back from a LA-MS-AR-OK-TX-AR-LA
loop, which gave me a chance to get far
into Neal Stephenson's latest doorstop
(and to eat testicles for the first time).

If you like Stephenson, it's *great*.

If you like Stephenson except[1] for
_Cryptonomicon_, steer clear.

Happy New Year, all, and a special HNE
to Marie and family.

--
Richard

[1] _The Big U_ does not count.

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Betty Clark wrote:

> I think six months is about the national average, isn't it?
>
> I don't have a clue.  Certainly not here in the last few years.

It isn't six months.  I really think it was at some point.  I don't
think I dreamed that.  But 40% sell in the first month.  Only 16% take
as long as six months:

http://www.chipandkellyrupp.com/gold_howlong.asp

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  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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mene tekel parsin wrote:

> Just back from a LA-MS-AR-OK-TX-AR-LA
> loop, which gave me a chance to get far
> into Neal Stephenson's latest doorstop
> (and to eat testicles for the first time).

Welcome back.  We talked briefly about your city in your absence.

> If you like Stephenson, it's *great*.

I don't know Neal Stephenson.  Is he a testicle chef?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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I am amused that you are amused. If you had not spoken of <routines> as
though they were obligatory, I would not have posted anything on the
topic. I thought you should know better. I am delighted that you do.

I know, though, that if I wanted to make an offer, I would do so,
regardless of what I had heard about the seller's unwillingness to
negotiate - particularly after my experience here at HH. The worst s/he
can (legally) do is laugh and say no.

Good luck!

Bethany

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I am amused that you are amused. If you had not spoken of <routines> as
> though they were obligatory, I would not have posted anything on the
> topic. I thought you should know better. I am delighted that you do.

??  You're the one who sounded as if it was your <insider knowledge>
that one should offer less than the list price.  I found that highly
funny since it is <routine> (in most markets -- including Knoxville).
Of course it's not obligatory.  If you don't care about paying too much
for a house, just offer the list price.  The seller and real-estate
agent will be surprised and delighted.  There's nothing obligatory about
the usual routine.  Or if you are selling a house, you can list it for
exactly what you expect to get for it -- not do it the usual way.  That
would likely slow down the sale while people made offers and you refused
them, but you certainly can do it that way.  Nothing is obligatory.

> I know, though, that if I wanted to make an offer, I would do so,
> regardless of what I had heard about the seller's unwillingness to
> negotiate - particularly after my experience here at HH. The worst s/he
> can (legally) do is laugh and say no.

The only response I can think of to this is <duh>.  Obviously one can
make any offer one wants to.  I made a ridiculously low one on that
Lookout Mountain cottage and was surprised that the seller took it
seriously enough to counter at the <next-logical-step> level.  But I
didn't want to play, so I just took the earnest money back and dropped
out.  I changed my mind on how much to offer on this house the day I
actually came inside for the first time.  I upped my offer by $10,000
because I decided my original plan was insultingly low and because I
knew where I was willing to end up on the price, which of course is
where we did end up -- within twenty-four hours.  Iow, making offers is
totally open -- and if a real-estate agent is involved, that agent is
required to convey the offer to the seller even if it is absurd.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On 2 Jan 2004 at 16:11, Doris Markland wrote:

> Someone told me they heard Wednesday a snow
> warning for Hawaii.  I did not follow up to see
> if it was true.

I don't remember hearing any snow warnings, but I was pretty much in a fog
Wednesday. However, all week long, there have been, and continue to be,
flash flood warnings. It's rainy and very wet.

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Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

> I don't remember hearing any snow warnings, but I was pretty much in a fog
> Wednesday. However, all week long, there have been, and continue to be,
> flash flood warnings. It's rainy and very wet.

So how was the honeymoon?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 02:18 PM 1/2/2004 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
>On 2 Jan 2004 at 16:11, Doris Markland wrote:
>
> > Someone told me they heard Wednesday a snow
> > warning for Hawaii.  I did not follow up to see
> > if it was true.
>
>I don't remember hearing any snow warnings, but I was pretty much in a fog
>Wednesday. However, all week long, there have been, and continue to be,
>flash flood warnings. It's rainy and very wet.

Welcome back.  Will there be a WHTMIK?

Betty

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On 2 Jan 2004 at 16:35, Betty Clark wrote:

> Welcome back.  Will there be a WHTMIK?

Probably not. I will say, though, that it was a good trip in most every respect.
The company was good. The food was great. The atmosphere was vibrant.
The week went by in a flash. And I did not want to leave.

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>
> Do you have your reservations?
>
> Betty
>

Got my bag and got my reservation,
Spent each dime I could afford . . .

Well, actually, this year we are using up
all our United points and going 1st Class.
Leave Jan 12.

                      - D. M.

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> On 2 Jan 2004 at 16:35, Betty Clark wrote:
>
> > Welcome back.  Will there be a WHTMIK?
>
> Probably not. I will say, though, that it was a good trip in most
every respect.
> The company was good. The food was great. The atmosphere was vibrant.
> The week went by in a flash. And I did not want to leave.


Did this trip have anything to do with the
young lady who had lunch with us a
couple of years ago?

              - D. M.

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More ear type coverings:

<http://www.improvementscatalog.com/product.asp?product=207996zz&dept%5Fid=
12170>


I'd be worried I might lose one! They are easy to carry.

Terry

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On 2 Jan 2004 at 19:01, Doris Markland wrote:

> Did this trip have anything to do with the
> young lady who had lunch with us a
> couple of years ago?

Yes. She was the hostess, tour guide, facilitator, arranger . . . everything.

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, mene tekel parsin wrote:
> Just back from a LA-MS-AR-OK-TX-AR-LA
> loop,

You came to TX and didn't even wave at me?

Karen

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> Yeah, but how often do you have to wash the grease and
> grime off of them?

The ones I use frequently - never.

The ones I use infrequently - each time I want to use them.

It's not like I keep them up there by choice. I have very little storage
space in my kitchen. Picture coming to you personally in another message.

--Adam

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At 02:45 PM 1/2/2004 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:

>Probably not. I will say, though, that it was a good trip in most every
>respect.
>The company was good. The food was great. The atmosphere was vibrant.
>The week went by in a flash. And I did not want to leave.

A succinct summary of a good trip.  What more needs be said?

cwv

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> = I just got phone-email from her. They're out of town and are en
> route back
> = home.
> =
> = --Adam
>
> What does this mean?  Did she sms you, or does your phone have an
> email address?

It means she replied to my email using her cell phone. Being the Bandwidth
Hog, of course she has a Web-enabled phone.

--Adam

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Betty Clark wrote:

> At 04:35 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> I think six months is about the national average, isn't it?
>
> I don't have a clue.  Certainly not here in the last few years.
>
> Betty

Here in small town Littleton, Massachusetts, six days is a long time.

Rita L.

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On 2 Jan 2004 at 20:10, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> A succinct summary of a good trip.  What more needs be said?

Well, I'm trying to slip past the fact that all I have to show for it is a lot of
lousy pictures. I'm living proof that owning big iron doesn't make one Ansel
Adams. But I have my excuses . . . .

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2004 at 20:10, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

>> A succinct summary of a good trip.  What more needs be said?

> Well, I'm trying to slip past the fact that all I have to show for it is a lot of
> lousy pictures. I'm living proof that owning big iron doesn't make one Ansel
> Adams. But I have my excuses . . . .

Name 3!

Karen

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At 08:08 PM 1/2/2004 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:
> > Yeah, but how often do you have to wash the grease and
> > grime off of them?
>
>The ones I use frequently - never.
>
>The ones I use infrequently - each time I want to use them.

Clearly, a workable model.

cwv

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On Friday, January 02, 2004, clyde w. voigtlander wrote:
> At 08:08 PM 1/2/2004 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:
>> > Yeah, but how often do you have to wash the grease and
>> > grime off of them?
>>
>>The ones I use frequently - never.
>>
>>The ones I use infrequently - each time I want to use them.

> Clearly, a workable model.

I do the same with the ones I store in my cupboard.

Karen

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In a message dated 1/2/2004 7:09:19 PM Central Standard Time,
Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
<<
You came to TX and didn't even wave at me?
>>

He came to OK, too, and didn't even stop here.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
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Someone from the leasing office here called my brother,
but he didn't get the message until after the office had
closed for the evening.

Evelyn Duncan
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I borrowed a ballwinder from My Fiber Friend, so I can transfer some
of the yarn that I got in my huge haul from decaying cardboard cones
to nice center-pull balls. The design is pretty cool. But the best
part, as far as Burl is concerned, is that the cone bounces all over
the floor when it's coming to the end. She treats it as prey.

Karen

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On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, Lynne Weber wrote:
> Does TS appear to be in
> fairly good condition?

Yes.

Karen

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I found them quite difficult to put on.  I have a friend who loves
them.  They blend right in with her dark hair.  But once on, she seldom
takes them off.


>More ear type coverings:
>
><http://www.improvementscatalog.com/product.asp?product=207996zz&dept%5Fid=
>12170>
>
>
>I'd be worried I might lose one! They are easy to carry.
>
>Terry

bonnie

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On 2 Jan 2004 at 19:28, Karen Kay wrote:

> Name 3!

1. The camera is a complicated device, is new to me, and has peculiarities
that I haven't had time to master.

2. Moving about quickly with three other people doesn't allow you to give
thoughtful attention to what you're doing. Haste makes lousy photos, unless
you're lucky.

3. I was cold, dammit.

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--- "Michael E. Macmillan" <mem@FLEX.COM> wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2004 at 19:01, Doris Markland wrote:
>
> > Did this trip have anything to do with the
> > young lady who had lunch with us a
> > couple of years ago?
>
> Yes. She was the hostess, tour guide, facilitator,
> arranger . . . everything.


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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Michael E. Macmillan wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2004 at 19:28, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Name 3!

> 1. The camera is a complicated device, is new to me, and has peculiarities
> that I haven't had time to master.

> 2. Moving about quickly with three other people doesn't allow you to give
> thoughtful attention to what you're doing. Haste makes lousy photos, unless
> you're lucky.

> 3. I was cold, dammit.

Okay, you are forgiven. These are all excellent reasons.

Karen

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--- Betty Clark <bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
> At 04:35 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> I think six months is about the national average,
> isn't it?
>
> I don't have a clue.  Certainly not here in the last
> few years.


How can one let a house stay vacant that long without
insurance?  Around here, insurance coverage ends when
a property is vacated.  That's not the buyer's
problem, I know, but how can the owners of the vacant
house maintain any peace of mind?


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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Lynne Weber wrote:
> How can one let a house stay vacant that long without
> insurance?  Around here, insurance coverage ends when
> a property is vacated.  That's not the buyer's
> problem, I know, but how can the owners of the vacant
> house maintain any peace of mind?

What makes you assume the house is vacant?

Karen

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Lynne Weber wrote:

> How can one let a house stay vacant that long without
> insurance?  Around here, insurance coverage ends when
> a property is vacated.  That's not the buyer's
> problem, I know, but how can the owners of the vacant
> house maintain any peace of mind?

There's a certain period of time before the insurance has to change to a
different kind.  I don't remember the details now since my last move
involved simply converting the insurance on the house I left from
insurance on a house I was living in to insurance on a house that I had
turned into rental. (But I lived in the old house for several weeks
after closing on this house.  This house was double insured during that
time since my insurance kicked in at closing but the seller also had his
insurance continued to make sure that his silver and Steinway piano were
fully covered.)

My move before that one involved moving in late August and selling the
other house in late November.  Iow, the house I was selling was vacant
and for sale for almost three months.  I don't remember now how the
insurance worked but do know that there was coverage.  My insurance
agent took care of it.

--
 -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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--- Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> What makes you assume the house is vacant?


My mistake.  I thought I read a reference to a vacant residence.

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--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
> My move before that one involved moving in late
> August and selling the
> other house in late November.  Iow, the house I was
> selling was vacant
> and for sale for almost three months.  I don't
> remember now how the
> insurance worked but do know that there was
> coverage.  My insurance
> agent took care of it.

Then we had a lousy agent or lousy insurance or both.
Coverage on our house ceased one month after it was
vacated, and no other company would insure it.
Fortunately, it was sold shortly thereafter.

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----- Original Message -----
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> On 2 Jan 2004 at 19:01, Doris Markland wrote:
>
> > Did this trip have anything to do with the
> > young lady who had lunch with us a
> > couple of years ago?
>
> Yes. She was the hostess, tour guide, facilitator, arranger . . .
everything.


Wonderful!

      - D. M.

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If any of you receive IFC (Independent Film Channel) catch "Grateful
Dawg."  It is a documentary of the musical collaboration of David Grisman,
mandolinist, and Jerry Garcia, in about the last five years of Jerry's
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On Friday, January 02, 2004, Lynne Weber wrote:
> --- Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
>> What makes you assume the house is vacant?


> My mistake.  I thought I read a reference to a vacant residence.

Oh. I thought we were talking about average selling times. Most of the
houses I've known that took that long to sell were not vacant.

Karen

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Best news story I read this week was about
a woman flying from France to Florida.  
Somewhere over the ocean she had a heart
attack.  When they asked over the speakers
if there were a doctor on the plane, 15 of
them stood up.  They were all heart
specialists on their way to a convention of
heart specialists.

Talk about luck.

Yeah, she survived.

                    - D. M.

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Karen Kay wrote:

> Oh. I thought we were talking about average selling times. Most of the
> houses I've known that took that long to sell were not vacant.

Were they rental, or were the owners still in them?  If I pursue this
house deal, which I'm probably not going to, I don't like the thought of
having people look at my house while I'm living in it.  Even though my
original thought was to do it all in one fell swoop -- selling this one,
buying that one, I would prefer in a way to move out of this one before
anybody starts poking around in it.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Did you like No-Crack (Reg. U.S. Pat. & Tm. Off.)?

Try:
http://mrhappycrack.com/

Bethany

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> I don't like the thought of
> having people look at my house while I'm living in it.

I *hated* having people come to look at Grampa's house. The deal was that
they could only come when I was at work. I remember one time a secondary
realtor showed up while my friend Kate and I were eating dinner...boy was I
angry, and I called the primary realtor the next day and communicated my
displeasure. Not that it did much good, the house still got sold
(eventually) and I had to move out.

Tying together a few threads, it sat vacant for 6 months - August to
February - after the original deal fell through. And there was a big pantry
with closed cabinets. Grampa wanted the assessed value for it - $119K - but
wound up taking $66K. If he had told me he would have taken less, I would
have seriously tried to buy it, but all along he insisted he wanted the
assessed value, and at that point I couldn't afford it.

--Adam

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 19:44:55 -0800, Lynne Weber <lcweber2003@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>--- Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET> wrote:
>> My move before that one involved moving in late
>> August and selling the
>> other house in late November.  Iow, the house I was
>> selling was vacant
>> and for sale for almost three months.  I don't
>> remember now how the
>> insurance worked but do know that there was
>> coverage.  My insurance
>> agent took care of it.
>
>Then we had a lousy agent or lousy insurance or both.
>Coverage on our house ceased one month after it was
>vacated, and no other company would insure it.
>Fortunately, it was sold shortly thereafter.

No, there must be some kind of continuation coverage
that can happen, or houses could only be sold at the
moment of transfer between both houses. Mortgagers
require insurance (usually) and letting the house
become uninsured voids the terms of the contract,
making the whole mortgage come due.

I'd talk to a couple of agents, if you think you might
be selling and moving again in the foreseeable future.
If your agent is like our new one (son of the former
guy, and <not> a shining light of the industry),
there's some deadline he missed, something he forgot
to do or didn't look up that you got told was
 "the way it is".

clo

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Adam Hartfield wrote:

>with closed cabinets. Grampa wanted the assessed value for it - $119K - but
>wound up taking $66K. If he had told me he would have taken less, I would
>have seriously tried to buy it, but all along he insisted he wanted the
>assessed value, and at that point I couldn't afford it.

I am sorry you lost the house, Adam.

I continue to believe in making offers regardless of asking prices, etc. I
know that it is harder to treat family transactions as arms-length
transactions - but I think it is often wise, all things considered.

Bethany

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> I am sorry you lost the house, Adam.

Thanks.

It was a BIG house. I want something a little smaller now.

--Adam

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Were they rental, or were the owners still in them?

The owners were still in them.

> If I pursue this house deal, which I'm probably not going to, I
> don't like the thought of having people look at my house while I'm
> living in it. Even though my original thought was to do it all in
> one fell swoop -- selling this one, buying that one, I would prefer
> in a way to move out of this one before anybody starts poking around
> in it.

I think everyone feels that way.

Karen

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> I continue to believe in making offers regardless of asking prices, etc. I
> know that it is harder to treat family transactions as arms-length
> transactions - but I think it is often wise, all things considered.

I am SO glad we're not related.

Karen

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Karen Kay wrote:

> On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>>Were they rental, or were the owners still in them?
>>
>
> The owners were still in them.
>
>
>>If I pursue this house deal, which I'm probably not going to, I
>>don't like the thought of having people look at my house while I'm
>>living in it. Even though my original thought was to do it all in
>>one fell swoop -- selling this one, buying that one, I would prefer
>>in a way to move out of this one before anybody starts poking around
>>in it.
>>
>
> I think everyone feels that way.


        I didn't mind when I sold the house in Ohio.  I generally
left with Ana and the dogs so as not to interfere with our
agent, though. In the end, it ended up selling while we were
in France.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>> I continue to believe in making offers regardless of asking prices, etc. I
>> know that it is harder to treat family transactions as arms-length
>> transactions - but I think it is often wise, all things considered.
>
>I am SO glad we're not related.

You would probably be amazed how much beter families work if people use
business sense in their business transactions. Adam, for instance, might
have offered several thousand more than the $66k eventually accepted.
Using business sense where appropriate does not, of course, preclude
making charitable donations where appropriate. Not all decisions are
business decisions.

Bethany

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Adam Hartfield wrote:

>>I don't like the thought of
>>having people look at my house while I'm living in it.
>
> I *hated* having people come to look at Grampa's house. The deal was that
> they could only come when I was at work. I remember one time a secondary

It's not so much that I would mind being here -- as in interruptions as
people tromped through the house.  What I wouldn't like is trying to
keep it in its best <showing> form all the time.  A very large part of
that problem is Spencer.  Without animals, keeping a house in <showing>
form would be pretty easy.  I'm not a sloppy house-keeper.  I would say
I'm much closer to the clean-and-neat end of the continuum than to the
dirty-and-messy.  Definitely not dirty.  Dirtiness puts me in a bad
mood.  Messiness also except in designated areas, like my junk room.
But there are often leaves/grass in dry weather and pawprints in wet
weather up and down the hall and elsewhere.  And I keep the decorative
pillows in white lace shams sitting on the cedar chest in the bedroom
most of the time instead of on the bed since they're a real pain to wash
and iron and since Spencer snoozes on the pillows on the bed quite
often.  Also, the house looks better with the doors open to the living
room, but I normally leave them closed since I have those vents almost
closed and since it keeps Spencer off of the rugs in the living room and
dining room, making them stay clean.  And then there are the doggy
covers on the couch and easy chair in the den and the sheet on the couch
in this room.  (The couch is this room is quite ugly, of course, so the
sheet might be considered an improvement.)

Anyway, sans chien the situation would be pas de grande chose.  Avec
chien, c'est grave.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>>Then we had a lousy agent or lousy insurance or both.
>>Coverage on our house ceased one month after it was
>>vacated, and no other company would insure it.
>>Fortunately, it was sold shortly thereafter.
>
> No, there must be some kind of continuation coverage
> that can happen, or houses could only be sold at the
> moment of transfer between both houses.

I don't know the real scoop, but I feel pretty sure that there is a
grace period similar to the one when car-buying -- the insurance
coverage on the car you just traded in applies to the new car for X
number of days.  Otherwise, you would be at risk when driving home from
the car dealer -- or driving from the car dealer to your insurance agent
or whatever.

After that grace period, it is different though (back to houses now).  I
do have a vague memory that my insurance costs were higher on the vacant
house than they had been when I was living in it, even though the
insurance covered less -- as in it covered only the structure, not the
contents.  That's like insurance on a rental house.  It's higher even
though it covers less.  In fact, my very, very vague memory is that it
*was* rental insurance -- that a vacant house waiting to be sold is
covered by the same kind of policy that covers a rental house -- it's
like it's between renters.  I'm not positive of that, though.  My last
vacant-house-owning was over twenty years ago.

> I'd talk to a couple of agents, if you think you might
> be selling and moving again in the foreseeable future.
> If your agent is like our new one (son of the former
> guy, and <not> a shining light of the industry),
> there's some deadline he missed, something he forgot
> to do or didn't look up that you got told was
>  "the way it is".

I am very happy with my Republican insurance agent.  Although he's the
less popular of the two State Farm agents in town, my cars and houses
have been with him for many years now, and his office is friendly to me.
and seems efficient. (All of his office staff signed a sympathy card and
mailed it to me when Bush was elected.)

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> I continue to believe in making offers regardless of asking prices, etc. I

And I continue to be amused that you keep saying this since it is what I
would call going-without-saying -- i.e., it is what all normal people in
normal markets do.

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>        I didn't mind when I sold the house in Ohio.  I generally
>left with Ana and the dogs so as not to interfere with our
>agent, though. In the end, it ended up selling while we were
>in France.   -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman

I didn't mind when we sold the house in Tennessee.  We were always told
ahead of time and asked to leave the house before the agent would get there
with the prospective buyers.  It was a bit of a pain to keep the house
looking clean and picked up at all times.  In the end, it sold a week after
we moved out.


bonnie

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> You would probably be amazed how much beter families work if people use
> business sense in their business transactions.

I'm grateful to my family that they don't. For the second year in a
row, they funded my trip to Chicago so we could all be together.
Without that, I would have spent Christmas alone in Austin. I
appreciate their generosity, and certainly hope they got a good ROI.
I'm sure that some would regard it as a waste of money.

When I was stuck in Chicago for hours and hours, my sister and I were
in contact the whole time, and she gave me hope by offering to drive
to Chicago to come and get me (3 hours each way) if she had to. Not
a good financial decision maybe, but one I really appreciated.

My family works fine as it is.

Karen

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>> You would probably be amazed how much beter families work if people use
>> business sense in their business transactions.
>
>I'm grateful to my family that they don't. For the second year in a

Read my entire message.

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>> I continue to believe in making offers regardless of asking prices, etc. I
>
>And I continue to be amused that you keep saying this since it is what I
>would call going-without-saying -- i.e., it is what all normal people in
>normal markets do.

Then apparently few of us in Knoxville are normal. I am considered
dramatically innovative and courageous for offering what I could afford
instead of something within a few thou of the asking price.

Bethany

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>>> You would probably be amazed how much beter families work if people use
>>> business sense in their business transactions.
>>
>>I'm grateful to my family that they don't. For the second year in a

> Read my entire message.

> Bethany

I did.

Karen

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Read my entire message.
>
>> Bethany
>
>I did.

Oh - okay, Perhaps later you will mark and inwardly digest. Do you enjoy
deliberately misinterpreting messages from me? If so, carry on - for be it
from me to interfere with a hobby.

Hypothetical: you and I are related (family!). (Yes, grit teeth now! - if
you decide to read on!)

You decide to sell your house. I decide to buy a house in Austin. You
list your hosue for $165,000. (I have no idea at all what you actually
paid for it or would sell it for, assuming you decided to sell it. This is
purly hypothetical.)

You list it. I decided that I can afford to pay $140,000 for a house. I
like your houses. Do I deliberately refrain from making an offer - which
might be the best one you get in a reasonable period of time?

Or do I offer far more than I can really afford, because you are family?
If I do, I might buy at the higher price, therefore making you
temporarily happy. But then for years I will be unable to fund family
travel (including for you) that I could have funded otherwise. Was that
smart - for me, for family?

Bethany

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> I'd talk to a couple of agents, if you think you
> might
> be selling and moving again in the foreseeable
> future.
> If your agent is like our new one (son of the former
> guy, and <not> a shining light of the industry),
> there's some deadline he missed, something he forgot
> to do or didn't look up that you got told was
>  "the way it is".

Thanks, clo.

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--- "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
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> Then apparently few of us in Knoxville are normal. I
> am considered
> dramatically innovative and courageous for offering
> what I could afford
> instead of something within a few thou of the asking
> price.

Do they strike medals for this sort of thing?

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Then apparently few of us in Knoxville are normal. I am considered
> dramatically innovative and courageous for offering what I could afford
> instead of something within a few thou of the asking price.

You hang out with weird folk if they find that innovative or courageous.
  Sounds more like what I would call <logical>.

The house was just as cute inside as I had imagined it would be.  I
enjoyed the viewing.

--
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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>>> Read my entire message.
>>
>>> Bethany
>>
>>I did.

> Oh - okay, Perhaps later you will mark and inwardly digest. Do you enjoy
> deliberately misinterpreting messages from me? If so, carry on - for be it
> from me to interfere with a hobby.

You keep insisting that the only reason I disagree with you is that I
haven't read or digested what you wrote. Well, for [sic] be it from me
to interfere with a hobby.

Karen

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The apartment manager told us that we have to get rid of Bennie.
We are going to fight this.

Evelyn Duncan
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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> The apartment manager told us that we have to get rid of Bennie.
> We are going to fight this.

Did they say why?

Karen

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Welcome back.  We talked briefly about your city in your absence.

At the moment, looking out my window,
it appears that everybody in the world
is not only in my city, but in my
neighborhood.

GEAUX TIGERS BOOMER SOONER.

--
Richard

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>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>Then apparently few of us in Knoxville are normal. I am considered
>>dramatically innovative and courageous for offering what I could afford
>>instead of something within a few thou of the asking price.
>
>You hang out with weird folk if they find that innovative or courageous.
>  Sounds more like what I would call <logical>.
>  -- Natalie

I find Bethany's purchase of her huge condo rather innovative.  She found
an incredible bargain and wise investment by finding a motivated
seller.  Personally, I wouldn't even look at a piece of real estate that
was so many tens of thousands of dollars more than what I could afford to
pay.  But then nor would I look at a potential home as merely an investment
to be traded in within three or four years.


bonnie

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clo:
> >If you like Stephenson, it's *great*.
> Which "it"?

The book.

The testicles, I didn't particularly
care for.

They were served fried (with enough
Crystal or Tabasco, I can choke down
most anything that's fried), but the
texture was off-putting.

The flavor was O.K., vaguely liver-ish,
but the aftertaste was intolerable.

--
Richard

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Karen:
> You came to TX and didn't even wave at me?

Texas is a big place, and God gave
me teensy hands.  You just missed it.

--
Richard

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> > Oh - okay, Perhaps later you will mark and inwardly digest. Do you enjoy
> > deliberately misinterpreting messages from me? If so, carry on - for be it
> > from me to interfere with a hobby.
>
>You keep insisting that the only reason I disagree with you is that I
>haven't read or digested what you wrote. Well, for [sic] be it from me
>to interfere with a hobby.
>Karen

It does seem apparent to me that Bethany was talking about treating real
estate deals between family members in a business-like manner while you,
Karen, are talking about not counting the cost where generosity and love is
indicated between family members.  This does seem like two very different
things.


bonnie

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> He came to OK, too, and didn't even stop here.

I was headed to Oklahoma City, and you
were working anyway.

If it's any consolation, I was in both
Duncan, OK and Evelyn, LA, so I was
visiting with you geographically, at
least.

--
Richard

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lynne Weber wrote:
> Do they strike medals for this sort of thing?

Among the many things I learned on my
trip, these Douglas MacArthur facts:

a) he was born in Arkansas
b) he had the Medal of Honor

Say WHAT???????????

--
Richard, no, not the Arkansas birth thing

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, bonniev wrote:
> It does seem apparent to me that Bethany was talking about treating real
> estate deals between family members in a business-like manner while you,
> Karen, are talking about not counting the cost where generosity and love is
> indicated between family members.  This does seem like two very different
> things.

The point for me, I guess, is that I don't believe so.

She claimed that she was talking about all business matters, not just
real estate. But yes, she seems to be talking about real estate.

I have noticed, however, that Bethany is unlikely to be conducting any
business with her mother, and I don't remember that she has talked
about any other relatives. These kinds of claims are easy to make when
you will never be required to demonstrate.

Karen

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, leave your hat on wrote:
> Karen:
>> You came to TX and didn't even wave at me?

> Texas is a big place, and God gave
> me teensy hands.  You just missed it.

Faugh!

Karen

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, leave your hat on wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>> He came to OK, too, and didn't even stop here.

> I was headed to Oklahoma City, and you
> were working anyway.

> If it's any consolation, I was in both
> Duncan, OK and Evelyn, LA, so I was
> visiting with you geographically, at
> least.

Nice save!:)

Karen

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 2:14:54 PM Central Standard Time,
Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
<<

On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> The apartment manager told us that we have to get rid of Bennie.
> We are going to fight this.

Did they say why?
>>

Because he bit Tracey and another person said that Bennie bit
him.  I was there; Bennie didn't bite him, but he did snarl and growl.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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Oh!  Another military tidbit -- I also
went to World of Wings, the National
Pigeon Association's museum/headquarters.

There are several pigeons more deserving
of the Medal of Honor than, than, than...

That other guy.

--
Richard, but they aren't eligible

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Karen:
> Faugh!

Hey, I was in Austin a few years ago.

Your fault.  You moved there too late.

--
Richard, BATS!

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, leave your hat on wrote:
> Your fault.  You moved there too late.

Believe me, I have been thinking this since I moved here. Why couldn't
my friends have looked at me and said, "Karen! You need to move to
Austin!!!" It's SOOOO obvious to me now.

> Richard, BATS!

They are in Mexico now. But if they knew it was 80 today, I'm sure
they'd come back.

Karen

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The database that drives my life was in death
throes yesterday, and I was in despair: it was
giving me error codes w/out explanation (of course)
and apparently looping ones, so that trying to work
on the apparently culprit table or query resulted
in lockup. Even older versions (backups) got into
the act, locking at the same point. It looked truly
ugly.

I had been changing keys and relationships in and
between multiple tables and dozens of queries, and
 something somewhere was NG. This is a legacy db,
ported up by others (mostly just learning access)
from DB3 and so on to Access 2.0, and up and up.
So there is lots and lots of dryer lint and
stupidity that I am changing little by little.

I still don't know what piece of magic I somehow
worked, but it appears that I won't be losing my job
for gross incompetence any time soon. I managed to
bring the thing back to life, complete that necessary
changes, and add some basic features that will seem
like dramatic innovations to the folks here. Life is
good.

We also put up a new website, which is of course
full of glitches but we can also iron them out as
time goes on and faculty snootily point out the
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So after a pretty bad couple of days, I feel more
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clo

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> Because he bit Tracey and another person said that Bennie bit
> him.  I was there; Bennie didn't bite him, but he did snarl and growl.

He *bit* Tracey? I thought you said that he just tore her panty hose.
Biting is really serious, Evelyn; I'm not surprised they want you to
get rid of him.

Karen

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bonniev wrote:

> I find Bethany's purchase of her huge condo rather innovative.  She found
> an incredible bargain and wise investment by finding a motivated
> seller.  Personally, I wouldn't even look at a piece of real estate that
> was so many tens of thousands of dollars more than what I could afford to
> pay.  But then nor would I look at a potential home as merely an investment
> to be traded in within three or four years.

I don't remember what the list price of her condo was.  Was it tens of
thousands more than she could afford to pay?  I remember finding her
buying of it somewhat surprising, but that was because of its huge size
-- was because I can't imagine one person wanting to fool with that much
space.  I do remember that the price she got it for was extremely low.

Who would think of a potential home as an investment to be traded in
within three or four years?  That strikes me as too short a time for
wise real-estate investing.  Certainly my two and a half years is, which
is something that gives me pause about my current wheeling/dealing, but
there are more important things than absolute top financial gain --
i.e., not making quite as much money as you might make by waiting longer
isn't the only consideration in thinking about where you want to live.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:18:50 EST, Evelyn Duncan <EDuncan368@AOL.COM> wrote:

>In a message dated 1/3/2004 2:14:54 PM Central Standard Time,
>Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
><<
>
>On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>> The apartment manager told us that we have to get rid of Bennie.
>> We are going to fight this.
>
>Did they say why?
>>>
>
>Because he bit Tracey and another person said that Bennie bit
>him.  I was there; Bennie didn't bite him, but he did snarl and growl.
>
>Evelyn Duncan
>EDuncan368@aol.com
>I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

Evelyn,

I know that you love this little dog,
but I also know that you have been worried about
his behavior lately. This must be very painful
for you, and your family.

clo

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:24:49 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:


>Who would think of a potential home as an investment to be traded in
>within three or four years?  That strikes me as too short a time for
>wise real-estate investing.  Certainly my two and a half years is, which
>is something that gives me pause about my current wheeling/dealing, but
>there are more important things than absolute top financial gain --
>i.e., not making quite as much money as you might make by waiting longer
>isn't the only consideration in thinking about where you want to live.
>

It wouldn't be my cup of tea, but I know of a couple who rehab houses,
and only live in them until they are ready to be sold - but always at
a substantial profit. Of course, they put a lot of "sweat equity" into
the houses. It's a form of urban nomadic life that I don't find
appealing at all - I hate packing and unpacking!

clo

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mene tekel parsin wrote:

>>Welcome back.  We talked briefly about your city in your absence.

I've read the first little bit of a kind of interesting book called _New
Orleans_ that somebody who left our department a couple of years ago
abandoned for anybody who wanted it.  I brought it home, thinking it was
a novel, and it has sat in a stack of books for ages and ages.  Opened
it a couple of days ago and am enjoying it.  It's about stuff like the
history of Mardi Gras.  Author is Carol Flake.
>
> At the moment, looking out my window,
> it appears that everybody in the world
> is not only in my city, but in my
> neighborhood.

Maybe we should have a list MG fest this year.  Anybody interested?

What, btw, was your trip's itinerary.  Some of the states you mentioned
made it sound like a circle.  Was it The Grand Southern Circle?  Where
in MS did you go?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Karen Kay wrote:

> I have noticed, however, that Bethany is unlikely to be conducting any
> business with her mother, and I don't remember that she has talked
> about any other relatives. These kinds of claims are easy to make when
> you will never be required to demonstrate.

I don't think I would like doing business with family members.  Business
strikes me as something I would prefer doing with people other than
family or close friends.  I don't even like direct sales of things --
like buying a house without a real-estate agent's involvement.  I find
it more comfortable to stick with the professional service offerers.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> So after a pretty bad couple of days, I feel more
> like celebrating (for work-related reasons) than
> I have in a long, long time. I love it when I get
> to make a database that works!

Congratulations!  Hoist a champagne and be of good cheer.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:
> Believe me, I have been thinking this since I moved here. Why couldn't

Right, the whole "born here, took
me X-years to get here" thing.  YAWN.

> They are in Mexico now.

Ah!  I knew in the back of my mind
that they were migratory.  When do
they come back?

Do they muck out the guano and sell
it for fertilizer?

--
Richard

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This is a hypothetical question, and I would like as divergent a
response base as I can get. I'm not looking for a right answer,
but a range to consider:

Hypothetically:
X lives with Y, and they are in a relationship.

Y likes to travel. X does not. X and Y have similar amounts of vacation
in a year. Both X and Y may work on weekends and receive comp time at
intervals, but not at the same seasons. How much time per year should
Y feel free to indulge in travel, given a willingness to take X along
which X rarely takes advantage of?

What other factors might affect how Y feels about traveling?
Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?
Does distance or mode of transportation matter?

clo

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:34:27 -0600, leave your hat on
<rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU> wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:
>> Believe me, I have been thinking this since I moved here. Why couldn't
>
>Right, the whole "born here, took
>me X-years to get here" thing.  YAWN.
>
>> They are in Mexico now.
>
>Ah!  I knew in the back of my mind
>that they were migratory.  When do
>they come back?
>
>Do they muck out the guano and sell
>it for fertilizer?
>
>--
>Richard

Or gunpowder, as during the Civil War?

I expect that at least some of it is
dropped in protected areas, when on this
side of the border.
clo

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>>Who would think of a potential home as an investment to be traded in
>>within three or four years?  That strikes me as too short a time for
>>wise real-estate investing.  Certainly my two and a half years is, which
>>....
> It wouldn't be my cup of tea, but I know of a couple who rehab houses,
> and only live in them until they are ready to be sold - but always at
> a substantial profit. Of course, they put a lot of "sweat equity" into
> the houses. It's a form of urban nomadic life that I don't find
> appealing at all - I hate packing and unpacking!

That is a whole nother thing from what I was thinking about.  I wasn't
talking about fixer-uppers.  I'm envious of people who like to do that
and are good at it.  I would enjoy the moving around.  I just would not
enjoy the actual work -- and would be terrible at it.  I would end up
having to hire expensive professionals to do all the fixing up and would
then sell the house at a loss.  Anyway, I was talking about simply
living in a house in hope of its appreciating in value.  That usually
takes more than a few years.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Natalie:
> history of Mardi Gras.  Author is Carol Flake.

Right.  The subtitle is Behind the Mask, or
something like that?

> Maybe we should have a list MG fest this year.  Anybody interested?

Oh, Mardi Gras is just a bunch of frat
boys and their drunken girlfriends.  At
that point, I'm gearing up for Lent.

WORDS-L's gotta come the weekend before
and see me in my parade!

--
Richard, Tucks Parade, Elvis Float

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:32:40 -0600, Natalie Maynor <natalie@MAYNOR.NET>
wrote:

>Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
>
>> So after a pretty bad couple of days, I feel more
>> like celebrating (for work-related reasons) than
>> I have in a long, long time. I love it when I get
>> to make a database that works!
>
>Congratulations!  Hoist a champagne and be of good cheer.
>
>--
>  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

Thanks!

Now back to the webmess which is already in progress...
clo

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=
= So after a pretty bad couple of days, I feel more
= like celebrating (for work-related reasons) than
= I have in a long, long time. I love it when I get
= to make a database that works!
=
= clo

YaY!

I don't recognize right off the problem Access was giving you, so
I'm very glad you got it sorted.  Once, long ago, I made my
living making Access applications, so if you ever get stuck with
something, feel free to give a shout my way.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lynne Weber wrote:

>> Then apparently few of us in Knoxville are normal. I
>> am considered
>> dramatically innovative and courageous for offering
>> what I could afford
>> instead of something within a few thou of the asking
>> price.
>
>Do they strike medals for this sort of thing?

They don't have to - we live in the penthouse at Hamilton House! That
beats the heck out of a mere medal!

LOL!

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>The apartment manager told us that we have to get rid of Bennie.
>We are going to fight this.

How?

Bethany

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Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

> This is a hypothetical question, and I would like as divergent a
> response base as I can get. I'm not looking for a right answer,
> but a range to consider:
>
> Hypothetically:
> X lives with Y, and they are in a relationship.
>
> Y likes to travel. X does not. X and Y have similar amounts of vacation
> in a year. Both X and Y may work on weekends and receive comp time at
> intervals, but not at the same seasons. How much time per year should
> Y feel free to indulge in travel, given a willingness to take X along
> which X rarely takes advantage of?

Are there non-travel (i.e., local) things that require one to be on
vacation to do and that X wants to do with Y -- things they can't do
during their regular work weeks or weekends?  If not, then my answer is
that Y should feel free to travel as much as he/she wants to.  If there
are these other things that require vacation time, then Y should
probably cut the travel down, but I don't think it needs to be cut in
half necessarily.

> What other factors might affect how Y feels about traveling?

I'm not sure I understand this question.  Like is it that Y likes to
travel to escape from X?  If so, then their relationship has problems.
But maybe they're like these couples who live happily as long as they're
living in different towns or whatever.

> Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?

That would depend on their usual routines, hobbies, etc.  If they
normally do stuff together on weekends, then I'd say that taking a
week's trip is probably better for Y to do.  But on those weekends when
X is working, certainly it would make sense for Y to travel.

> Does distance or mode of transportation matter?

Not unless it seriously affects their communal budget.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Natalie:
>Where in MS did you go?

Just straight up 55 to Mimfo-Daddy.

When we moved here, we stayed in the
Motel 6 near Graceland with all the
animals[1] on 28-Dec-1991.

This year, to celebrate, we drove to
Memphis on the 28th, stayed in that
Motel 6, and had dinner at the same
Chinese restaurant.

Hey, it was (kinda) on the way to
the other places we were going.

--
Richard, class all the way

[1] Ronnie and Reggie Cray (cockatiels),
Raisin (chinchilla), Doc and Bugs (rabbits),
and Earl (iguana)

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>I have noticed, however, that Bethany is unlikely to be conducting any
>business with her mother, and I don't remember that she has talked
>about any other relatives. These kinds of claims are easy to make when
>you will never be required to demonstrate.

Are you requesting a detailed autobiography?

Or just a list of what I do and pay for for my mother?

Bethany

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, leave your hat on wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:
>> Believe me, I have been thinking this since I moved here. Why couldn't

> Right, the whole "born here, took
> me X-years to get here" thing.  YAWN.

Well, yes. But it's novel for me because I have so seldom felt that
way. The last time was 25 years ago.

>> They are in Mexico now.

> Ah!  I knew in the back of my mind
> that they were migratory.  When do
> they come back?

Marchish; depends on the weather.

> Do they muck out the guano and sell
> it for fertilizer?

LOL. Not that I know of--they have no way of getting in where the bats
are. (They are inside the bottom side of a bridge--there's an opening
of about an inch.)

They do sell something called 'dillo dirt, but I don't ask too many
questions about where it comes from... (I know the plant trimmings of
the city of Austin are involved, but that's all I know.)

Karen

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>>I have noticed, however, that Bethany is unlikely to be conducting any
>>business with her mother, and I don't remember that she has talked
>>about any other relatives. These kinds of claims are easy to make when
>>you will never be required to demonstrate.

> Are you requesting a detailed autobiography?

> Or just a list of what I do and pay for for my mother?

Neither, thank you.

Karen

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Are you requesting a detailed autobiography?
>
> Or just a list of what I do and pay for for my mother?

Hmm.  I hadn't thought about stuff like that as <conducting business>.
I was thinking about loans or purchases or whatever -- as in buying
something from or selling something to a family member.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Karen:
> are. (They are inside the bottom side of a bridge--there's
>an opening of about an inch.)

Yeah, that's one of the coolest things
about the bridge -- that (seemingly)
millions and millions of the things
come out of that tiny opening.

Since seeing it, I wondered what the
deal is when they come back.

Do the early returners know to roost
all the way in the back to leave room
for the latecomers?

Is there a sergeant-at-arms that assigns
berths?

Is it just chaos?

--
Richard, batboy

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At 03:37 PM 1/3/2004 -0600, leave your hat on wrote:

>WORDS-L's gotta come the weekend before
>and see me in my parade!

I'd rather do that.  I'm not interested in MG.

Betty

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I don't remember what the list price of her condo was.  Was it tens of
>thousands more than she could afford to pay?  I remember finding her
>buying of it somewhat surprising, but that was because of its huge size
>-- was because I can't imagine one person wanting to fool with that much
>space.  I do remember that the price she got it for was extremely low.

The original asking price was $169,000. (An immediate buyer put down a
lot of earnest money, then lost it because he did not move to Knoxville,
after all). The second asking was $165,000. I offered $138,000 and bought
for $140,000.

>wise real-estate investing.  Certainly my two and a half years is, which
>is something that gives me pause about my current wheeling/dealing, but
>there are more important things than absolute top financial gain --
>i.e., not making quite as much money as you might make by waiting longer
>isn't the only consideration in thinking about where you want to live.

One needs to reside on the property for two years in order to get tax-free
treatment of the proceeds. After that, it depends .... as so many, many
things do - onlist and offlist ...

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>I know that you love this little dog,
>but I also know that you have been worried about
>his behavior lately. This must be very painful
>for you, and your family.

Last night, I read a horrifying story in the NYorker about someone's
trying to keop a vicious, hostile dog. It's in the Jan. 5 issue -p. 32 ff.

Bethany

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Listserv rejected this, saying that it looked like a listserv command:

> leave your hat on wrote:
>
>>> WORDS-L's gotta come the weekend before
>>> and see me in my parade!
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> That's an excellent idea.  That's the best time anyway, imho (based on
> my extensive experience of having never ever in my life been in NO on
> Fat Tuesday itself and having been only once on the preceding weekend).
>
> -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)


--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Carolyn Ostrander:
= This is a hypothetical question, and I would like as divergent a
= response base as I can get. I'm not looking for a right answer,
= but a range to consider:
=
= Hypothetically:
= X lives with Y, and they are in a relationship.
=
= Y likes to travel. X does not. X and Y have similar amounts of vacation
= in a year. Both X and Y may work on weekends and receive comp time at
= intervals, but not at the same seasons. How much time per year should
= Y feel free to indulge in travel, given a willingness to take X along
= which X rarely takes advantage of?
=
= What other factors might affect how Y feels about traveling?

did you mean X here?  Y likes to travel already, and is probably
getting itchy.  it's X that wants to stay home when there's free
time.

= Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?
= Does distance or mode of transportation matter?
=
= clo

How much time does Y want to spend with X when both X and Y can
arrange vacation time together?

I differentiate between travelling, and vacationing away from
home (like the difference between a road trip to Greece and a
week on Ibiza).

Is the work at home split up evenly?  Is it a hardship on X if Y
is not around?

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:

>Y likes to travel. X does not. X and Y have similar amounts of vacation
>in a year. Both X and Y may work on weekends and receive comp time at
>intervals, but not at the same seasons. How much time per year should
>Y feel free to indulge in travel, given a willingness to take X along
>which X rarely takes advantage of? etc.

There are so many variables in this hypothetical that I don't think a
universal answer is possible. Everything would depend on many variables
... is there some underlying issue you are trying to get at?

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>> Are you requesting a detailed autobiography?
>
>> Or just a list of what I do and pay for for my mother?
>
>Neither, thank you.

Thank YOU!

Bethany

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>I don't remember what the list price of her condo was.  Was it tens of
>>thousands more than she could afford to pay?  I remember finding her
>>buying of it somewhat surprising, but that was because of its huge size
>>-- was because I can't imagine one person wanting to fool with that much
>>space.  I do remember that the price she got it for was extremely low.
>
> The original asking price was $169,000. (An immediate buyer put down a
> lot of earnest money, then lost it because he did not move to Knoxville,
> after all). The second asking was $165,000. I offered $138,000 and bought
> for $140,000.

I was thinking that was the general vicinity of the asking price --
something I would not consider out of the question for a mere college
professor to look at or make an offer on.  And the offer sounds like
what I would call a <normal> offer.  I would offer around 120 on a house
listed at 150, around 125-130 on one listed at 160, around 130-135 on
one listed at 170.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

>> WORDS-L's gotta come the weekend before
>> and see me in my parade!
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> I'd rather do that.  I'm not interested in MG.

But the weekend before really *is* MG.  I'm for it, though.  Let's plan.

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At 04:05 PM 1/3/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Betty wrote:
>
>>>WORDS-L's gotta come the weekend before
>>>and see me in my parade!
>>
>>I'd rather do that.  I'm not interested in MG.
>
>But the weekend before really *is* MG.  I'm for it, though.  Let's plan.

Look up the actual date. I'm sure I can't do it this year.

Betty

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Betty wrote:

> Look up the actual date. I'm sure I can't do it this year.

I was checking hotels for Feb. 20 arrival, Feb. 22 departure.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Hmm.  I hadn't thought about stuff like that as <conducting business>.
>I was thinking about loans or purchases or whatever -- as in buying
>something from or selling something to a family member.

They are not - they are in effect charitable giving.

Bethany

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I fear we've waited too late if we really want to stay in NO itself on
MG weekend.  There are no rooms in the inns.  But we could commute from
somewhere.  Maybe I should move to BSL before then, and we could all
stay at my BSL house and drive over.

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>Y likes to travel. X does not. X and Y have similar amounts of vacation
>in a year. Both X and Y may work on weekends and receive comp time at
>intervals, but not at the same seasons. How much time per year should
>Y feel free to indulge in travel, given a willingness to take X along
>which X rarely takes advantage of?

Y should feel free to travel just as much as her enthusiasm and budget will
allow her.  Because X loves her, he should be happy for her happiness and
find joy in her tales of adventure when she returns home to him.  If X does
not take joy in Y's joy, then she must cast off his gloominess, refuse to
be held prisoner, and press on with her own dreams lest she whither on the
vine and be of no use to X or Y.

>What other factors might affect how Y feels about traveling?

Y might not want to plan a trip on X's birthday or on important
anniversaries of their relationship or on holidays that they have fun
celebrating together.  Before leaving, Y might provide for those needs of X
for which she is usually responsible while she is away traveling, e.g. food
preparation, bill paying, laundry.

>Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?

No.  Some adventures need a week.  Some take only a long weekend.

>Does distance or mode of transportation matter?
>clo

No.


bonnie

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I was thinking that was the general vicinity of the asking price --
>something I would not consider out of the question for a mere college
>professor to look at or make an offer on.  And the offer sounds like
>what I would call a <normal> offer.  I would offer around 120 on a house
>listed at 150, around 125-130 on one listed at 160, around 130-135 on
>one listed at 170.

The other <fact> of importance was that the askings of $169k and $165k
were well under market. A fair market price would have been at least
$200k. The other unit at HH close to the size of this one - but
considerably more elegant, I am told - was listed later at about $300k.

Bethany

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Ok, we can stay at the Key West Inn in Bay St. Louis -- less than an
hour to NO.  Four people will fit in my car.  If we have more, we will
have to have a larger vehicle.  And in any case, somebody has to
volunteer to drive us home after night-time debauchery since I'm blind
at night and may also be drunk.

http://www.orbitz.com/App/ViewHotelDetails?c=jqt2&r=4j&lastPage=interstitial

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Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Ok, we can stay at the Key West Inn in Bay St. Louis -- less than an
> hour to NO.  Four people will fit in my car.  If we have more, we will
> have to have a larger vehicle.  And in any case, somebody has to
> volunteer to drive us home after night-time debauchery since I'm blind
> at night and may also be drunk.
>
> http://www.orbitz.com/App/ViewHotelDetails?c=jqt2&r=4j&lastPage=interstitial

Or we could stay at the HI for just a few dollars more:

http://www.orbitz.com/App/ViewHotelDetails?c=2s4f&r=if&lastPage=interstitial


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Natalie Maynor wrote:

> http://www.orbitz.com/App/ViewHotelDetails?c=jqt2&r=4j&lastPage=interstitial

That url didn't work.

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At 03:52 PM 1/3/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>
>>Are you requesting a detailed autobiography?
>>
>>Or just a list of what I do and pay for for my mother?
>
>Hmm.  I hadn't thought about stuff like that as <conducting business>.
>I was thinking about loans or purchases or whatever -- as in buying
>something from or selling something to a family member.

To Ms. Dumas, <everything> is business.

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Here's the Key West Inn (which is really green -- this picture makes it
look yellow -- I remember saying that to the desk person when I checked
in there last March):

http://www.keywestinn.net/baystlouis.html

And here's the HI:

http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/hd/wavms?irs=y

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, leave your hat on wrote:
> Yeah, that's one of the coolest things
> about the bridge -- that (seemingly)
> millions and millions of the things
> come out of that tiny opening.

It makes me nervous when I drive over it. Sort of like when I'm on a
beach with a lot of airholes on it...

> Since seeing it, I wondered what the
> deal is when they come back.

> Do the early returners know to roost
> all the way in the back to leave room
> for the latecomers?

Hm.

> Is there a sergeant-at-arms that assigns
> berths?

> Is it just chaos?

I assume it's no more chaotic than when any other animals sleep
together. Smush smush smush smush wriggle wriggle nip slide smush
wriggle... Repeat.:)

Karen

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http://www.shelterdogs.org/

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>It makes me nervous when I drive over it. Sort of like when I'm on a
>beach with a lot of airholes on it...
>Karen

Hmmm.  It didn't make me nervous at all to row under it.  I didn't see any
bats though.  Are they there in September?


bonnie

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But Bennie isn't vicious or hostile with most people.  In fact, some
of our other neighbors have approached him, and he has been very
calm and friendly.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 3:45:40 PM Central Standard Time,
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<<
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>The apartment manager told us that we have to get rid of Bennie.
>We are going to fight this.

How?

Bethany
>>

Arbitration; our next-door neighbor told us that Tracey's
assistant said that Tracey was not bitten by Bennie.
We have character witnesses that claim that Bennie has
been friendly, or, at least, calm, with them.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
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I am pondering the cornucopia of tv offerings.  At first I was thinking
I was in a football mood and that I could watch the SB on tv tonight.  I
never watch sports events involving teams I don't have any particular
interest in, but I decided I could remind myself that I do in fact have
a degree from LSU and could be for LSU.  (Besides, I think it's true
that every time an SEC team wins a bowl game, MSU gets some of the
money.)  But then I noticed that there are some good movies on tonight.
  I love channels like Oxygen and WE.  They almost always have good
movies.  I've seen both of the ones on tonight, but I wouldn't mind
watching either of them again -- one about a woman dying of cancer and
her daughter coming and helping, the other "Silkwood" -- the one about
the activist in the plant.  And there are various other things on.  I'm
turning into a tv person.  Makes me think again about how it would be
nice to have a big screen.  But if I buy that house on Gillespie, the
room will be smaller and thus the tv set larger.  So I will withhold the
big-screen idea until I find out what might happen.
--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 3:25:30 PM Central Standard Time,
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I know that you love this little dog,
but I also know that you have been worried about
his behavior lately. This must be very painful
for you, and your family.
>>

It is, and I'm not going to let Tracey win without a fight.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
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Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> Arbitration; our next-door neighbor told us that Tracey's
> assistant said that Tracey was not bitten by Bennie.
> We have character witnesses that claim that Bennie has
> been friendly, or, at least, calm, with them.

What is the apartment's general policy re pets?  Is there something in
writing about it?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 3:23:45 PM Central Standard Time,
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He *bit* Tracey? I thought you said that he just tore her panty hose.
Biting is really serious, Evelyn; I'm not surprised they want you to
get rid of him.
>>

She said that he bit her, but her assistant says that she doesn't
think that Bennie bit Tracey.  I think Bennie just tore her hose.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
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In a message dated 1/3/2004 6:32:17 PM Central Standard Time,
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What is the apartment's general policy re pets?  Is there something in
writing about it?
>>

I haven't seen anything, but our next-door neighbor works for Case,
so he can get the papers.

Evelyn Duncan
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In a message dated 1/3/2004 3:00:18 PM Central Standard Time,
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I was headed to Oklahoma City, and you
were working anyway.
>>

Oh, well, if you're ever in Tulsa, stop by the Reasor's
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Evelyn Duncan
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>But Bennie isn't vicious or hostile with most people.  In fact, some
>of our other neighbors have approached him, and he has been very
>calm and friendly.

That was the initial situation with the NYorker dog.

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>How?
>
>Arbitration; our next-door neighbor told us that Tracey's
>assistant said that Tracey was not bitten by Bennie.
>We have character witnesses that claim that Bennie has
>been friendly, or, at least, calm, with them.

Good luck!

Bethany

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et SONC (Sonic Corp.)

SONC has an interesting kiddie meal promotion going. With each "Wacky
Pack" (I think that's the right designation) one gets a bunch (a dozen or
so) of vocabulary cards en espanol. There are six sets altogether, and
they are on keyrings with a clip attached (perfect for the backpack). Each
card has a drawing, the Spanish word, a pronunciation guide, and the
English translaation.

I learned about them from shareholder info, so I went by last week and
bought a couple of Wacky Packs (awful, because full of fat, but no worse
than any other fastfood restaurant) to get a couple of sets of cards. I
got 2 sets of No. 6. Today I went back and traded 6 for another and
suggested that they give me the others since I am a shareholder. They did,
so I have a full set.

Bethany

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 2:54:02 PM Central Standard Time,
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> Welcome back.  We talked briefly about your city in your absence.

At the moment, looking out my window,
it appears that everybody in the world
is not only in my city, but in my
neighborhood.

GEAUX TIGERS BOOMER SOONER.
>>

Yay, Sooners!

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
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In a message dated 1/3/2004 6:40:28 PM Central Standard Time,
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That was the initial situation with the NYorker dog.
>>

What happened with the dog?

Evelyn Duncan
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In a message dated 1/3/2004 6:41:11 PM Central Standard Time,
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<<
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>How?
>
>Arbitration; our next-door neighbor told us that Tracey's
>assistant said that Tracey was not bitten by Bennie.
>We have character witnesses that claim that Bennie has
>been friendly, or, at least, calm, with them.

Good luck!

Bethany
>>

Thanks!

Bennie isn't happy about the muzzle, but he is putting up
with it.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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> They were served fried (with enough
> Crystal or Tabasco, I can choke down
> most anything that's fried)

What's Crystal?

--Adam, lover of Frank's Red Hot

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, bonniev wrote:
>>It makes me nervous when I drive over it. Sort of like when I'm on a
>>beach with a lot of airholes on it...
>>Karen

> Hmmm.  It didn't make me nervous at all to row under it.  I didn't see any
> bats though.  Are they there in September?

Yes. They leave in November. You can see the <evidence> if you look
for it.

Karen

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> But Bennie isn't vicious or hostile with most people.

I'm sorry Evelyn, but I doubt that biting the apt mgr was a good move
on Bennie's part. It doesn't matter if he's hostile with anyone else.

Karen

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 7:33:50 PM Central Standard Time,
Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
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I'm sorry Evelyn, but I doubt that biting the apt mgr was a good move
on Bennie's part. It doesn't matter if he's hostile with anyone else.
>>

He's a dog; what does he know about politics?
And she should have not been rushing towards him and Mom.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>That was the initial situation with the NYorker dog.
>
>What happened with the dog?

After many, many horrible episodes, and many totally unsuccessful attempts
to treat the dog/change its behavior (and tons of $$), they finally
euthanized the dog. They clearly should have done that much earlier. I am
not suggesting a parallel here - I do not think there is one. But there is
such a thing as ignoring evidence.

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>Bennie isn't happy about the muzzle, but he is putting up
>with it.

That beats the heck out of the NYorker dog's behavior!

Bethany

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I got a muzzle for him.  He's not happy with it, but he does accept
wearing it when we go out.

Evelyn Duncan
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In a message dated 1/3/2004 8:03:56 PM Central Standard Time,
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That beats the heck out of the NYorker dog's behavior!
>>

He didn't accept a muzzle?

Evelyn Duncan
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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> He's a dog; what does he know about politics?

That's kind of the point. If politics are an issue, can you afford to
keep him around?

> And she should have not been rushing towards him and Mom.

Apartments are for the humans who live in them. They shouldn't have to
moderate their behavior on Bennie's account. Your Mom needs to learn
to watch for hazards and control Bennie.

Karen

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
> I got a muzzle for him.  He's not happy with it, but he does accept
> wearing it when we go out.

I do think it's horrible that he has to wear a muzzle, but I think it
will make the other people in the apts feel better. He really does
sound like a good dog that needs to be trained. Believe me, there's no
way I could get a muzzle on Burl without being ripped to shreds.

Karen

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>He didn't accept a muzzle?

No:

1. "[An animal behaviorist] arrived with a Snoot Loop, a contraption ...
similar to the ... Gentle Leader, a kind of bridle with a strap that
tightens around the muzzle of a dog when he pulls. He charged us hundreds
of dollars, the Snoot Loop cut into Buster's nose, leaving a bloody
welt, and the issue of self-mutilation was not addresssed."

2. "We resorted to placing a large plastic collar shaped like an
ice-cream cone around his neck when we left him alone." The dog started
having fits, so they had to take the collar off. Eventually they also used
a product called Anxiety Wrap. That was about the end. He attacked himself
and others without warning.

You should read the article. (It does not appear to be online, though
other articles from that issue are.)

Bethany

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>Apartments are for the humans who live in them. They shouldn't have to
>moderate their behavior on Bennie's account. Your Mom needs to learn
>to watch for hazards and control Bennie.

She's right.

Bethany

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 8:14:03 PM Central Standard Time,
Karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes:
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Believe me, there's no
way I could get a muzzle on Burl without being ripped to shreds.
>>

Is it possible to muzzle a cat?

Evelyn Duncan
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> > They were served fried (with enough
> > Crystal or Tabasco, I can choke down
> > most anything that's fried)
>
> What's Crystal?
>
> --Adam, lover of Frank's Red Hot
>

Frank's red hot what?

          - D. M.

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> > --Adam, lover of Frank's Red Hot
> >
>
> Frank's red hot what?
>
>           - D. M.

Cayenne pepper sauce. Not as "hot" as Tabasco and loads more flavor.

--Adam

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 8:31:31 PM Central Standard Time,
dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:
<<
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>Apartments are for the humans who live in them. They shouldn't have to
>moderate their behavior on Bennie's account. Your Mom needs to learn
>to watch for hazards and control Bennie.

She's right.

Bethany
>>

I know, that's why we got the muzzle.  And, if we can get a way to
Owasso, there's a dog doctor that's been recommended to us.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
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If we have to get rid of him, then we are never getting another
dog.  It's just too painful.

Evelyn Duncan
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>If we have to get rid of him, then we are never getting another
>dog.  It's just too painful.

You really need to read the NYorker piece.

And get another dog - assuming that it is realistic to think that you can
have one where you live.

Bethany

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 9:30:44 PM Central Standard Time,
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<<
And get another dog - assuming that it is realistic to think that you can
have one where you live.
>>

No, it'll just be Sweetie and me.

Evelyn Duncan
EDuncan368@aol.com
I'm not lost; I'm exploring.

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Evelyn Duncan wrote:

> GEAUX TIGERS BOOMER SOONER.
>
> Yay, Sooners!

The SB wasn't tonight after all.  I was watching the movie on Oxygen,
which it turned out that I had not seen before, and during one of the
commercials I decided to see what was happening with the SB.  But I
couldn't find it.

Why are bowl games later than they used to be?  Wasn't Jan. 1 pretty
much the end of the season in the olden days?  And wasn't the SB on NY's
Eve?

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 09:41 PM 1/3/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Why are bowl games later than they used to be?  Wasn't Jan. 1 pretty
>much the end of the season in the olden days?  And wasn't the SB on NY's
>Eve?

Ah, but you haven't reckoned with the greed of collegiate football.  The
BCS championship (this year, at the Sugar Bowl) must have a night of its
own.  This, even though the real champion (Southern Cal) has already played
its game and won.  Anyhow, with the pro playoffs being tonight and tomorrow
afternoon, the BS, er, BCS championship will be played tomorrow night.  By
the way, who's playing in it?

cwv

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At 10:06 PM 1/3/2004 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote:

>Cayenne pepper sauce. Not as "hot" as Tabasco and loads more flavor.

Have you tried the Tabasco Chipotle sauce?  I find it a decided improvement
on the original red Tabasco and more flavorful than the Tabasco jalapeno
(green) sauce.

cwv

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At 10:39 PM 1/3/2004 -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote:
>In a message dated 1/3/2004 9:30:44 PM Central Standard Time,
>dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes:
><<
>And get another dog - assuming that it is realistic to think that you can
>have one where you live.
> >>
>
>No, it'll just be Sweetie and me.

That's enough!

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On Saturday, January 03, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Evelyn Duncan wrote:

>>If we have to get rid of him, then we are never getting another
>>dog.  It's just too painful.

> You really need to read the NYorker piece.

Why?

> And get another dog - assuming that it is realistic to think that you can
> have one where you live.

I think she's going to have the same problem with any dog unless she
can train it.

Karen

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 9:12:23 PM, EDuncan368@AOL.COM writes:

>If we have to get rid of him, then we are never getting another
>dog.  It's just too painful.
>
I know what you're going through, but I think eventually you'll fall in love
when meet one that needs a loving home. Just make sure you'll train it right
from the start.
Theo

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In a message dated 1/3/2004 3:40:47 PM, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes:

>So after a pretty bad couple of days, I feel more
>= like celebrating (for work-related reasons) than
>= I have in a long, long time. I love it when I get
>= to make a database that works!
>=
Hey! Maybe your luck rubbed off on me. I was looking for a new cleaning
person, so I put an ad in the local paper, and lo and behold the phone rang off the
hook on the first day, and I found this really nice woman in her fifties who
agreed with all my needs, and desires and will start next week.
Theo

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>> You really need to read the NYorker piece.
>
>Why?

For info, perspective.

>> And get another dog - assuming that it is realistic to think that you can
>> have one where you live.
>
>I think she's going to have the same problem with any dog unless she
>can train it.

Roger!

Bethany

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clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> Ah, but you haven't reckoned with the greed of collegiate football.  The
> BCS championship (this year, at the Sugar Bowl) must have a night of its
> own.  This, even though the real champion (Southern Cal) has already played
> its game and won.  Anyhow, with the pro playoffs being tonight and tomorrow
> afternoon, the BS, er, BCS championship will be played tomorrow night.  By
> the way, who's playing in it?

Is it my faulty memory that the bowl games used to end earlier -- that
the last one(s) was(were) on Jan. 1 and that the SB was always NY's Eve?
  I do know, of course, that there are a gazillion more bowl games now,
but they aren't the ones that seem later -- it's the big ones that seem
later.  (I always think of the SB as the biggie because it's the first
one I have any memory of -- like from very early childhood.)

I don't know anything about the BCS.  Why is the SB considered the
championship game if the teams playing in it are ranked #2 and #3?  Why
wouldn't the team ranked #1 be in it?  (I'm getting those rankings from
looking at the CNN sports section -- online, of course -- which actually
jumps to Sports Illustrated, I think.  It lists the bowl-playing teams
with rankings and has LSU #2 and its SB oppenent, Oklahoma, #3.)
--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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At 07:00 AM 1/4/2004 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>Is it my faulty memory that the bowl games used to end earlier -- that
>the last one(s) was(were) on Jan. 1 and that the SB was always NY's Eve?

Your memory is good but those days are gone forever.

>I don't know anything about the BCS.  Why is the SB considered the
>championship game if the teams playing in it are ranked #2 and #3?

That is the question that is making life miserable for the inventors of the
BCS.  The BCS rankings, upon which teams are selected for the major bowls
(Orange, Sugar, Rose, Fiesta) use, in addition to the two national rankings
(one by coaches, one by sportswriters), a number of computer rankings.  The
computer rankings are done by a bunch of stat-head computer geeks.  All of
the numbers then get massaged (with different weights given to different
things) and Hey Presto! you end up with LSU playing a team that not only
did not win their conference championship, but got obliterated in the
conference championship game.  The championship (sic) game is rotated among
the four bowls I noted above.

Moreover, the coaches who have done the rankings all season must, according
to the agreement with the BCS, vote for tonight's winner to be #1---this
despite that they voted USC #1 earlier.

Which is why I probably won't watch tonight---I'm fed up with hearing the
arguments and rationalizations for what is an egregiously screwed-up
system.  Besides, it's past New Year's Day---all of the college football
teams should have gone home.  It's hoops time.

cwv

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bonniev:
= >which X rarely takes advantage of?
=
= Y should feel free to travel just as much as her enthusiasm and budget will
=
= >What other factors might affect how Y feels about traveling?
=
= Y might not want to plan a trip on X's birthday or on important
=
= >Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?
=
= No.  Some adventures need a week.  Some take only a long weekend.
=
= >Does distance or mode of transportation matter?
= >clo
=
= No.

What does this mean, that Bonnie would answer the questions as stated?

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On Sunday, January 04, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Karen Kay wrote:

>>> You really need to read the NYorker piece.
>>
>>Why?

> For info, perspective.

>From what you've said, that dog doesn't sound anything like Bennie.

Karen

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clyde w. voigtlander wrote:

> Which is why I probably won't watch tonight---I'm fed up with hearing the
> arguments and rationalizations for what is an egregiously screwed-up
> system.

I just read a column in the Clarion-Ledger on that subject (not really a
very good column -- this sportswriter is usually better -- I think he
really is tired of his bowl-hopping):

http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0401/04/srick.html

  Besides, it's past New Year's Day---all of the college football
> teams should have gone home.  It's hoops time.

YaY!  According to today's Starkville Daily News, we're now 11-0.
Problem is that we haven't played anybody good yet.  That starts soon.
I think maybe the next game is to be a <real> one, though it's still a
week or so before Kentucky comes to town.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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>= >Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?
>= No.  Some adventures need a week.  Some take only a long weekend.
>=
>= >Does distance or mode of transportation matter?
>= >clo
>= No.
>
>What does this mean, that Bonnie would answer the questions as
>stated?   -steph

With returning health, my mind has achieved an even greater clarity.


bonnie

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= >
= >What does this mean, that Bonnie would answer the questions as
= >stated?   -steph
=
= With returning health, my mind has achieved an even greater clarity.
=
=
= bonnie

Not you, silly, the rest of us!  It's all about me, remember?
(Oh, you did...)

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--- leave your hat on <rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU>
wrote:
> If it's any consolation, I was in both
> Duncan, OK and Evelyn, LA, so I was
> visiting with you geographically, at
> least.

I love this!  I love connecting place names to people
and events.

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--- leave your hat on <rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU>
wrote:
> Among the many things I learned on my
> trip, these Douglas MacArthur facts:
>
> a) he was born in Arkansas
> b) he had the Medal of Honor
>
> Say WHAT???????????

At what age did he decamp?

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--- Karen Kay <Karen@WORDWRITE.COM> wrote:
> I have noticed, however, that Bethany is unlikely to
> be conducting any
> business with her mother, and I don't remember that
> she has talked
> about any other relatives. These kinds of claims are
> easy to make when
> you will never be required to demonstrate.

I think there is a difference in the generosity of
family and doing business with family.  The latter, I
have learned through experience, is verboten unless an
attorney is involved, and I can't make my blood run
quite as cold as Bethany can hers.

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--- Carolyn Ostrander <clostran@SYR.EDU> wrote:
> What other factors might affect how Y feels about
> traveling?
> Is it different taking a week of vacation than
> taking trips on weekends?
> Does distance or mode of transportation matter?


Th first parts of your hypothesis will depend largely
on the individuals.  As to differences in
weekends/week, distance/mode of travel, it is my
experience that they make huge differences.

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--- leave your hat on <rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU>
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> WORDS-L's gotta come the weekend before
> and see me in my parade!

Sounds fun.  Tucks?

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--- "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU>
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> Last night, I read a horrifying story in the NYorker
> about someone's
> trying to keop a vicious, hostile dog. It's in the
> Jan. 5 issue -p. 32 ff.

Hardly appropriate.

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--- leave your hat on <rjscheid@NADAL.LOYNO.EDU>
wrote:
> Since seeing it, I wondered what the
> deal is when they come back.
>
> Do the early returners know to roost
> all the way in the back to leave room
> for the latecomers?
>
> Is there a sergeant-at-arms that assigns
> berths?
>
> Is it just chaos?


There is a Bat Major.  They have no use for batrooms.

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Lynne Weber wrote:

>I think there is a difference in the generosity of >family and doing
business with family.  The latter, I >have learned through experience, is
verboten unless an >attorney is involved, and I can't make my blood run
>quite as cold as Bethany can hers.

Blood temp has nothing to do with it. If it does, you should not be doing
it. Duh! Of COURSE business and charitable giving are different.

Arms-length, folks, arms-length. Buyer has an agent, seller has an agent -
on some ocassions an attorney may be useful, but in a real estate
transaction that is normally not true unless you like one at closing (I
do).

Example: a few years ago, I needed a very large loan for a period of a few
days. The best interest offer was from a bank owned by the husband of my
trainer, who was himself a personal friend. We talked and agreed to run
the proposed transaction through my accountant - so that it would be an
arms-length business transaction and would not have anything to do with
our other relationships. Worked like a charm. Would have whether it had
been yes or no - for my accountant had other banks to go to immediately if
necessary.

Why is it that so many of you think it is impossible to use your brain
when you are negotiating a business transaction with a family member?

Bethany

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At 12:09 PM 1/4/2004 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>Why is it that so many of you think it is impossible to use your brain
>when you are negotiating a business transaction with a family member?
>
>Bethany


You are very insulting, Bethany. You need to return to the monastery and
pray to be more humble.

B

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At 12:36 PM 1/4/2004 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Betty wrote:
>
> >You are very insulting, Bethany. You need to return to the monastery and
> >pray to be more humble.
>
>Whom have I insulted? Please quote the insult.
>
>Thanks,
>Bethany

You deleted what I responded to. You can look it up yourself because I'm
off to church.

Betty

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Betty wrote:

>You are very insulting, Bethany. You need to return to the monastery and
>pray to be more humble.

Whom have I insulted? Please quote the insult.

Thanks,
Bethany

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Betty wrote:

>>Whom have I insulted? Please quote the insult.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Bethany
>
>You deleted what I responded to. You can look it up yourself because I'm
>off to church.

And whom did I insult?

Bethany

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> Arms-length, folks, arms-length. Buyer has an agent, seller has an agent -
> on some ocassions an attorney may be useful, but in a real estate
> transaction that is normally not true unless you like one at closing (I
> do).

I had forgotten about buyer's agents, a topic we have discussed here
before.  How does the buyer's agent get paid?  I assume that it must not
be a percent of the amount you end up paying for the property since that
would put the agent in an odd situation -- doing a better job would mean
making less money.

> days. The best interest offer was from a bank owned by the husband of my
> trainer, who was himself a personal friend. We talked and agreed to run

An individual owned a whole bank?  I thought most banks were
corporations with stock-holders.

> Why is it that so many of you think it is impossible to use your brain
> when you are negotiating a business transaction with a family member?

I've forgotten now how this thread got started.  Who besides you has had
any business transactions with family members?  I don't remember anybody
else mentioning having them.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Betty wrote:

>> Why is it that so many of you think it is impossible to use your brain
>> when you are negotiating a business transaction with a family member?
>>
>> Bethany
>
> You are very insulting, Bethany. You need to return to the monastery and
> pray to be more humble.

I'm not sure who she's insulting since I don't know who has said
anything about its being impossible to use your brain when negotiating a
business transaction with a family member.  I do wonder, though, whether
Bethany has a brain of her own.  She seems to feel compelled to hire a
stable full of people to perform all the thinking for her -- agents,
accountants, lawyers, etc. etc.  I find it especially funny that
somebody who is herself a lawyer would hire a lawyer to be present at a
real-estate closing.  There's nothing really all that arcane about such
an event.  Even I, a non-lawyer, can follow the transactions quite easily.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>I'm not sure who she's insulting since I don't know who has said
>anything about its being impossible to use your brain when negotiating a
>business transaction with a family member.  I do wonder, though, whether
>Bethany has a brain of her own.  She seems to feel compelled to hire a
>stable full of people to perform all the thinking for her -- agents,
>accountants, lawyers, etc. etc.  I find it especially funny that
>somebody who is herself a lawyer would hire a lawyer to be present at a
>real-estate closing.  There's nothing really all that arcane about such
>an event.  Even I, a non-lawyer, can follow the transactions quite easily.

And 99% of the time anyone with a brain can. I do not want to be without
a lawyer in case I walk into a 1% situation. Also, someimes I want to
do more than "follow a transaction" - I may want to choose among
options.

YMMV.

Bethany

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>
>before.  How does the buyer's agent get paid?  I assume that it must not

The agents share the fee.

>An individual owned a whole bank?  I thought most banks were
>corporations with stock-holders.

Well, it's actually a number of members of his family who own the bank. He
is the head honcho.

>I've forgotten now how this thread got started.  Who besides you has had
>any business transactions with family members?  I don't remember anybody
>else mentioning having them.

It certainly hasn't stopped expressions of opinion! People have talked
about cold blood, etc. (I thought that was fairly insulting.)

Bethany

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

>> There's nothing really all that arcane about such
>>an event.  Even I, a non-lawyer, can follow the transactions quite easily.
>
> And 99% of the time anyone with a brain can. I do not want to be without
> a lawyer in case I walk into a 1% situation.

What might a 1% situation be?

>Also, someimes I want to
> do more than "follow a transaction" - I may want to choose among
> options.

?  Of course you choose among options.  That's part of what happens at a
closing.  Following the transaction makes it quite easy to choose among
the options (many of which you've probably already decided on anyway).
I know much more about my attitudes and desires than hired help would,
however, so I prefer to make those choices myself.

--
  -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net)

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
>>before.  How does the buyer's agent get paid?  I assume that it must not
>
> The agents share the fee.

So the buyer's agent makes more money by keeping the price of the house
high.  Sort of like travel agents back before airlines changed to
flat-rate fees.  Interesting.  Afaik, there's no such thing as a
"buyer's agent" here.  And that suits me fine.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Carolyn Ostrander wrote:
> This is a hypothetical question, and I would like as divergent a
> response base as I can get. I'm not looking for a right answer,
> but a range to consider:

OK, you want a range?  Here's a marker for one end of the range.


>  How much time per year should
> Y feel free to indulge in travel, given a willingness to take X along
> which X rarely takes advantage of?

Y should not feel free to indulge in travel if X doesn't like to be left
at home alone.  Y should only travel when X goes along.

> What other factors might affect how Y feels about traveling?

Y might not want to travel if X were nicer to Y at home.

> Is it different taking a week of vacation than taking trips on weekends?
> Does distance or mode of transportation matter?

No, distance or mode of transportation don't matter.  X and Y should spend
every minute of free time together, either at home or abroad.

Ann>
> clo
>

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>So the buyer's agent makes more money by keeping the price of the house
>high.

Not in my experience.

  Sort of like travel agents back before airlines  changed to
>flat-rate fees.  Interesting.  Afaik, there's no such thing as a
>"buyer's agent" here.  And that suits me fine.

I would not consider looking for real estate without one.

Bethany

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
>
>
>>So the buyer's agent makes more money by keeping the price of the house
>>high.
>>
>
> Not in my experience.
>
>   Sort of like travel agents back before airlines  changed to
>
>>flat-rate fees.  Interesting.  Afaik, there's no such thing as a
>>"buyer's agent" here.  And that suits me fine.
>>
>
> I would not consider looking for real estate without one.


        We used one twice.  Not again.  Both steered us wrong.  The
first one fucked up an offer on a house we were interested
in and we lost our earnest money.  The second one never
listened to a word we said about where we wanted to live and
kept trying to put us in crystal meth central.



--
Rita Rouvalis Chapman
rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org
http://www.etext.org/~rita


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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:

>What might a 1% situation be?

If we knew in advance, it would not be a 1% situation!

>I know much more about my attitudes and desires than hired help would,
>however, so I prefer to make those choices myself.

I like to factor in financial reality, current tax law, expected new
tax law, etc. as well as my attitudes and desires. I make all choices - on
the basis of as much info as possible.

Natalie, you begin to sound (again) like my mother, who sees no reason for
anyone with a brain ever to consult a physician, an accountant, a lawyer,
etc.

Believe it or nor, students of law, accounting, and medicine really do
learn things during their training that the rest of us probably do not
know.

Bethany

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

>>So the buyer's agent makes more money by keeping the price of the house
>>high.
>
> Not in my experience.

Then I don't get what you meant when you said that the agents shared the
fee.  Isn't the fee a percentage of the sales price?  Apparently not in
your experience.  So what is the fee based on?

>>flat-rate fees.  Interesting.  Afaik, there's no such thing as a
>>"buyer's agent" here.  And that suits me fine.
>
> I would not consider looking for real estate without one.

I find that way weird.

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Words-list is so Words-l this weekend.

            - D. M.

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Bethany K. Dumas wrote:

>>I know much more about my attitudes and desires than hired help would,
>>however, so I prefer to make those choices myself.
>
> I like to factor in financial reality, current tax law, expected new
> tax law, etc. as well as my attitudes and desires. I make all choices - on
> the basis of as much info as possible.

Financial reality?  What does a lawyer know about financial reality that
you don't know?  I consider financial reality important, but I think I'm
pretty well tuned into it.  Tax laws don't influence my house-shopping.

> Natalie, you begin to sound (again) like my mother, who sees no reason for
> anyone with a brain ever to consult a physician, an accountant, a lawyer,
> etc.

No, I believe that they have their places.  Certainly I have consulted
physicians.  But I've managed to live my life quite comfortably without
much need of lawyers or accountants.  I understand why the very wealthy
have need for accountants and lawyers, but I am not in that category.  I
lead a simple life.

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On Sunday, January 04, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> Why is it that so many of you think it is impossible to use your brain
> when you are negotiating a business transaction with a family member?

Why do you keep putting up your own straw men and knocking them down?
I guess it gives you a marvelous sense of achievement.

Karen

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Doris Markland wrote:

> Words-list is so Words-l this weekend.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?  I've thought it was pretty quiet
this weekend.

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On Sunday, January 04, 2004, Natalie Maynor wrote:
> I had forgotten about buyer's agents, a topic we have discussed here
> before.  How does the buyer's agent get paid?  I assume that it must not
> be a percent of the amount you end up paying for the property since that
> would put the agent in an odd situation -- doing a better job would mean
> making less money.

But that's exactly how they get paid. The buyer's agents I know are
not solely buyer's agents--they sell houses, too.

Karen

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On Sunday, January 04, 2004, Bethany K. Dumas wrote:
> It certainly hasn't stopped expressions of opinion! People have talked
> about cold blood, etc. (I thought that was fairly insulting.)

What's the difference between cold blood and distance?

In any case, this person you know is not a family member.

Karen

